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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Jim Jones we fly high, joining us later in the show.
But oh, Joe, right off the plane from France, tell
us a little bit about it, bro, How was it?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
I mean, listen, listen of friends cans was beautiful. Obviously,
being able to connect with a lot of brands, seeing
how things is a run, being able to sit down
and meet with important people. I'll just say it like that.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Uh, it was.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
It was a tremendous, tremendous trip. Man meetings and meetings
went very well. I had to speak on a few
panels that went well. And the relationships, you know, the
bridges I was able to to to.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
To build over there was awesome.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
So I'm kind of upset that I missed the first
two years based on what I was able to experience,
you know, around the time. So I look forward to
next year already I only been home for one day.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
But it was dope. It was a really really dope experience.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, it's it's it's getting It gets bigger and better
every year, Old Yoe, you know I went last year.
We're supposed to go, and we had some technical difficulties,
but it is a wonderful little bit event. And like
you said, you get an opportunity to sit down and
be in those rooms and being those meetings where things
actually happened. You get an opportunity to talk to people
that's going to actually pull the trigger and make things happen.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
So that's always.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
And then look, they you get an opportunity to meet
the people, They get an opportunity to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I mean you you across from them, you're talking.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Now they put a name to a face, Now they
put a personality into the name. Now they get an
opportunity to see who and what o Cho Sinko is.
So I'm glad you got an opportunity to experience that.
As I mentioned earlier, we recently spoke Ricky, we got something.
You know, you're from Tech, Well you're from San Diego.
Where do you live now? You are you back in
San Diego? You in Texas? Youre in Miami?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
How live in Northern California? You live in Northern California? Now?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, okay, well we got something that you might can
help us out on. You recently spoke at legislation. Texas,
they're trying to ban h marijuana products. I guess his
products will have the THC in it, correct, it's I mean, yes,
it's not. It's not supposed to.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
But but and that's why it's an issue, is that, okay,
pretty much you can go to a gas station in
Texas and get THC.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
We damn and.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
They tried so, so they don't Like in California, you
have these like these specialty shops. You have cannabis shops
that you go into and you can buy you know,
obviously you can buy I don't know, Graham or whatever
the case may be. I mean, you could probably speak
to that a little better than I can. But so
what are they trying to like take it completely out
or they're trying to get like restricted where you have
to go to a specific place and not just your

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arbitrary gas station.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's just both. But it's a little extreme.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
They're trying to ban it one hundred percent, and they're
gonna they say they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Open up the medical program.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
And I think it's a good idea to open up
the medical program, but I think it's a little it's
a little too much to say to ban it one
hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
It doesn't need to be regulated more, but not banned.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
But you do realize that when like when they open
it up for medical purposes or so they say, medicinal purposes,
you know, only a select group of people get those license, right,
you know that, you know it's you know what we
have been in concentrated for for two, five, ten, fifteen years.
Now we got you know, we sell it a little
nickel bag or with your little gram, whatever.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
The case may.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Now they get a license and they get a capitalizle
and make millions and millions and millions of dollars and
then we get cut out of and we have spent
time in jail for that.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, it's real, it's real. Hey.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
And then the funny, the funny thing about it is
they don't allow things to pass or they don't allow
they don't legalize things until they're able to monetize on it.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, that's it. Well, that that's that's exactly how it is.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
And obviously you understand the other aspect, the other dynamic
of of certain people obviously of color, who have used
that as a survival, as a means to provide, uh,
they they've been locked up you know for years and
we understand how that goes. It's always it's always a
double sided sword in a sense. But hopefully those that

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are able to use it for medicinal purposes and everyone
is given the opportunity to get those licenses when the
time comes.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, I mean, speaking of what you're talking about, chaity,
there are a lot of people in prison still shouldn't
be in prison, yes, yes, but also in most states
because when when the movement first started, most of the
people were liberal. So when the movement first started, then
they sure run a lot of the legislations that people
who have been incarcerated and felling these have easy they

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can if you've been incarcerated for cannabis, non violent cannabis
related defense in a lot of states, you have easier actions.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
You can get access to a license. Okay, that's nice,
that's cool, it is.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
But the issue is most of those people can't afford it,
don't have the expertise to be able to do anything
with those licenses, right, So yeah, so they don't really work.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I was I was talking to someone and they say, look,
when we get when we get a license, us people
that look like me, you were Ricky don't be selling
your wholeboy pound. Do what to do to guy, like
do the guy, oh yo, I'm talking to somebody that's
kind of in that business. And to keep the business
above the board. When your homeboy come, don't sell I'm

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a pound, sell him what you're supposed to sell. Keep
it above the board. So you get to keep your license.
I know your home will come on, bro Ain't nobody
gonna know? Yes, they gonna know, because as soon as
you get jammed up, do what you're gonna say, oh Joe,
to keep yourself from getting ten to fifteen, you're gonna
die your partner out. He gonna lose his license, They

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gonna shut him down sometime. If we were, if we're
fortunate enough to be in those positions, let's just do
right a keep it, keep that money flow going, because
like you said, that's a cash that's a cash business,
big one, big, and it's just like alcohol prohibition. They
read bootleg moon shine and all that stuff, and they say,
hold on, we keep busting. Let's just ay let them

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make it, and let's tax their ass on it. The
same thing with cigarettes. Let's tax them. We could get
some oh this a little billion and billion and billion
dollar business. Instead of hired all these people to try
to bust the steals and cut the trees down, we
can monetize it and once anybody look, once someone find

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they can make some money off it, they're gonna make
money off it.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
It's real. It's really that simple. And uh but I'm glad,
you know.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Rick, let me ask you this had the laws and
the way people look at because when I was, when
I was young and growing up and in the league,
marijuana was a stigma with a stigma. People were frowned
to punt it. And it's not nearly that. I mean
now people, hey, you California, they walk around, they be
smoking outside. It ain't nothing. How different do you think

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your career would have been had you been allowed to
you know, you know, partake.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
You know, I didn't have have been a lot different
because just you know, off the field, just all the
trouble I was in all the time, and and it
hit somebody reputation at the time, it was so stressful
that it I'm sure if I, if things were going
better and I was allowed to be myself, that I
would have been able to perform at even a higher level.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
No money intend.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
But no, but seriously, right, because I think we only
have so much energy, and when things are stressing us out,
that's the energy that's being wasted.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Them could be going to something different.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Right, I mean you look that California has always been
very very liberal, very open minded. I mean you go
to the Bay and the hippies and the yuppies and
they had woodstock and all that other stuff going on.
Do you think your upbringing, you think where you was,
where you was raised at played a role in you
being so you know, open and partaking in marijuana?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
And did you smoke in high school? Did you smoking college?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
When did this your your love infratuation or whatever the
case you mightn't want to call it. When did when
did your love? But when did you first partaking in marijuana?

Speaker 5 (10:53):
The first time I was in it was in high school,
but I wasn't I wasn't a smunker. I didn't really
become a smoker until I got into the league, okay,
because it was stigmatized, and you know, I was an
athlete and growing up the one thing that ever my grandma,
everybody said, right, don't throw it away for drugs, So
you know I tried, I listened I tried to listen so.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
So, but it wasn't until it wasn't until later.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
And I definitely think when I was thirteen, my my mom,
my stepdad was was a roster and so he would
smoke every night.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
It was part of his new team. And my my auntie,
she had a she had a treaty in her in
her kitchen, so it was around me. So I was
I was desensitized to it, like you know.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
And I think if people are around it and they
just hear the stigma, that's all they have to go on.
So I was around it and the people that I did,
my stepdad and my aunty people are buying like the
most in the old.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
World, and and they smoked. So but I yeah, I
wasn't partaking when I was young, but I was open
to I wasn't against it. I wasn't anti Hey, yeah, please,
I'm really curious you say you hadn't smoked when you
in me.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Obviously, most of the time when it comes to people
having certain habits, it comes from their surroundings and upbrings.
But the fact that you, you know, had the discipline
not to be interested in it why you were while
you were young. But once you got to the NFL.
Did you use it in the NFL because of injuries?
Because of stress? I mean it was stress.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
I think the reason I had it. You used it
up until that point because life was like was good.
I wasn't really stressed about anything, you know, I didn't.
I didn't need it. And I got to the point
where these got really stressful, and I realized that this
helped me because you know, everybody knows I'm a shy person,
I'm an introverted person, and something about smoking. I just

(12:41):
get to being with myself nor and I feel like
I get energy. I get energy from that and it
helps me. Was in a situation, Rick.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I think the thing is that you said, uh, the
expectations and we go get in this where Mike Dicker
gave up his entire draft class to select you.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
You know that had never been done in the history
of sports.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I mean basically that was ASoP giving his kingdom away
for a horse, and the expectations that came along. Now
you're supposed to be the greatest NFL running back because
you look at all the running backs Jim Brown and
Barry Sanders and THEMMT Smith and Dickerson, all those guys
they got slotted. The man gave up his entire draft
class to select you. So now that comes along. I mean,

(13:20):
you were Hedgsman Trophy winning running back. You had the
most rushing yards in college history. So now I'm a
Heisman Trophy winner. I got the most rushing yards. A
guy just gave up in entire draft class. For me,
that's a lot of expectations for the running back.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Did that play any role? Honestly, if I'm being really
he can call me.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
I'm grateful, But I don't think I even got to
the point of realizing the expectations because I was so
disappointed that I slid to the number five spots. Oh wow, Okay,
so I was like I was in a shot. I
mean after that, I don't even remember what happened. I remember,
I don't remember how because just what you said, you know,
to me, I thought I had I had made the katies. Uh,

(14:03):
and and not even to be the best in the future,
but that I was the best at least I had
the potential to be the best because of the track
my track record.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
So I thought I should have been the first pick.
Then I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Uh, And then and the Edginer was picked number four
Hall of Fame career, but I wasn't even the first
running back pick. So so I mean again, I remember
sitting there and I was spinning, and I remember saying
them saying something about pigs or something something, you know,
Mike dick Us, I'm with a cigar.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
And then and then I was on an airplane headed
to New Orleans. Did you get hot? Did you get
hot at night? I wasn't smoking.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Then you went smoking there? So you did you? So
you just start smoth until you got to what Miami?
And I started smoking in New Orleans. I movie my
second year, my second year in New Orleans? And did
you have what was it? Injury related? I mean you
talked about your You're an introverted person. U. I mean
when I think I remember, uh, you was talking and

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you always had your face map, you had your helmet
on and you had the dark shield, and you know,
everybody was like, damn, what's what's going on?

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Ricky?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Seems like you know, this is what they were saying.
They said, Man, I'm gonna do weird man who gives
an interview with the helmet on. We can't see his eyes,
We don't know what he's thinking. You know, people would
like for you to make eye contact and you were
like and like, wow, okay, this is this is different.
But hey, to each and all, the man did want
a heisman. He was, you know, uh won all these awards,
the dope walker. So hey, it's hard to argue the man.

(15:34):
He's had success doing it that way. It's not the
same though.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I mean what my time in college and my time
in the NFL were completely different, And basically it was
just the people's orientation towards me. Okay now, because as
a sensitive person, that's what it means. It means that
I need to be around people that feel me. Is
if I'm around people that don't feel me, then it's
hard for me to feel myself. I wouldn't around people

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that didn't feel me.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Along I get for myself was like go home to
my homeisuess right, smoke a little bit and get on
the game, just to relax, just just to give it,
just to again recharge so I could get up and
go do it again. Being on the field. I love
being on the field. Nothing nothing better, nothing to me.
There was no better feeling in the whole life world.
And I'm talking about practice. There was no better feeling

(16:20):
in the whole wife world for me than to be on.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
That football field. Nothing and that's all I wanted to do.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
But all the other stuff it just made it almost
to the point where it wasn't worth it. And so
I realized that if I wasn't like smoking connecting, I
wouldn't give it up the game.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Hm, you know, you know it's funny and Rick when
I when I think about it, as as great as
you were in college, as great as you were in
the NFL, just imagine if they were a little bit
more leaning with the rules and allowing you to smoke,
let's say for medicinal purposes. You know, if it's something
that you have in the issue and you if it
makes you feel a little bit more comfortable and and

(16:56):
and being able to operate and do your job on
a day to day base. Is you you who knows
what you what you could have done because you were
smoking weed and doing damage and one and like crazy.
So I could just imagine, do you ever sit back
and think about and have regrets and the way things
turned out? Or win and if you could, if you
could rewind the time and do it all over again,

(17:19):
would you make a different choice As far as smoking
a concerned.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know, I think about this a lot.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
And the thing I think about more is the people,
the players, the guys now in the league, who because
things have changed, who can?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Who can? It's not so much pressure.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
And I felt like I had something to do with
opening that door, And to me, that makes that makes
all of it worth it. And as far as regrets,
I can say this now because I've lived and I had.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
And I'm living now.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Is I wish that I would have taken more of
an advocacy.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Role at the time, is you know, because what you're
saying is true. I mean, that's real. I wasn't hurting
any I was just taking care of myself so I
could go to deliver the product that they were expecting me
to deliver. And I and I did.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
I mean when I got to Miami and I got
into my grooves, you know, I left the league in
Russian all pro. And so I think, to me, the lead,
we go out there and put our bodies, in our
minds and our hearts on the line, and they should
give us all reasonable means to be able to take
care of ourselves, to be able to do that, and
I wish I would have been courageous enough at the

(18:27):
time to stay that publicly, because whether people believe believe
it or not, once you say something publicly and people
are hearing it, it starts the conversation.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
And I think, and that's what I've seen.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
The biggest effect I've had is people can talk about
this now and I'm almost expecting to talk about it
when I'm in the room, So.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
It makes it easier. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I think the thing is Ricky is that, like it
was a stigma, and the more people started to talk
about it and you started to have more prominent people,
you started to have people like yourself, and you have
some of the Hollywood elite start talking about it and
and the medicinal purposes that it have, and it said,
and you know, I've heard people that talk about, oh,
you got no problem giving these guys shots. You got
these problem giving these guy painkillers, getting them addicted to something.

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And then when they lead the league, they still need
that and they can't get that and they're crashing out.
Why can't you allow them to smoke marijuana, calm them down,
take the pain away, Because at the end of the day,
they're trying This is a gladiated sport. This is not
a contact sport. This is a collision sport. There are
no winners, There are only survivors in this game. And
so if you're going to, hey, take this bike it

(19:35):
and take this purposet, take this, take this toward off,
take this and that, and and and all these anti inflammatories,
which is more which is more dangerous to the body,
which is more harmful to the body, which is calling
more harm and breaking the body down even more than this.
Why not have a conversation. And I think the NFL
they did open their mind. They started doing a little

(19:56):
bit of their own research because obviously, you know, they
don't want to make sure, they don't want to get
sued down the line. They started doing some research and
I think they came to the conclusion that you and
many many in your in your area, uh uh, Rick
had already known.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah. Yeah, it takes time. So I'm telling that I
was a pioneer and I'm being rewarded for it now,
So I feel right, it's working.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
But see, Rick, and I don't know, Man, you might
have been smoking that scun you might have been on
that that Khalifa cush. You might have been you owe
that boat you if you had that on home bron
that had never showed up for your system, you could
have just been.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
All right. Let's get to a couple of topics.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Brown's ricky quarterback Shader Sander says he will not drive
cars anymore after this multiple speeding, after this this month,
I don't drive no more, no more, Oh Joe, rick
do these are these speeding tickets being blown out of
proportion to you?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
First?

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Absolutely, absolutely, obviously you know you're not supposed to speed.
You're not You're not supposed to speed based on whatever
the speed limit may be. I think you just have
to build more cautious. You have to build a ball cautious.
I think we've all sped at some point. We've all
been pulled over for a ticket at some point. You're
not supposed to do it at times. People who do
it based on where you are happening to get somewhere,

(21:27):
being a little late, being behind schedule, on whatever it
may be at the time. I'm assuming you should do
it with Probably, I'm not sure whether it was morning, noon,
or night when he was stopped over. Maybe he might
have been trying to get to the stadium first. Maybe
you wanted to make sure you got that at a
certain time. Either way, hitting decision not to drive anymore,
or have a driver or a have an uber, whatever

(21:48):
it may be, so he doesn't give you more tickets
is a step in the right direction to make sure
you don't make that mistake again. Or you can just
drive like I do and never go over sixteen miles
an hour.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Is being blown out of proportion. I don't think I
don't think so. I think it's a I think there
is a warning sign and not on an alarm, not
an alarm, but a couple of things. And I've been there.
You got to know when there's a lot of heat
on you, you know, lay low, right.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
It don't mean you always have to lay low. Is
you got to have that sensitivity to when the heat
is on you lay low. Here here's the other thing.
I put on my psychologists hat. And you know everything
that went down on draft day, you know people everybody
around was pissed off, you know.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
But when they showed him on camera, he's saying cool, right,
and that's.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
How you're supposed to be. But but right, I say,
speeding is a is a manifestation of repressed anger. Righte
has got to get out somehow. So I say it's
you know, it's I say, if I was a psychologist,
I say, it's okay to be angry, right, It's ok
to be angry.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I like you. So you think.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Because at one point time even thought he was gonna
be the first pick in the draft, h Joe. Nobody
thought he would get outside the top ten. So you think,
you know, then you think the top three, right, yeah,
because they talked to be cam Ward him and h
Tramp Pactoric Hunner. Yeah, so you think sometimes so you
think the speeding might be a manifestation of something that's inside, Like, man,
I just got to get this side, just like blow

(23:19):
some steam off and you got you know, you got
your foot deep into the gas pedal, exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
You got to You gotta come out somehow. You gotta
come out of something.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Hey, you know, it's funny, Rick Young when you think
about it too, we talk about I hate using the
word why m I hate using it, but obviously it's
something that that people use a day for the for
the young fellas. And anyway, when you think about it, right,
think about all the college kids at Georgia. But just
in general, everybody keep getting in trouble for doing what speeding.
You know, when you're young, when you're twenty one, twenty three,

(23:50):
you you you have, you have a need for speed,
and the type of cars that they get are challengers,
hell cats, uh, the rag, Yeah, track hawk. So I
mean it's something that young folks do all the time,
you know, and they just have to pick and choose
when to do it and have understanding of your surroundings,

(24:11):
you know, whatever devices. You know, technology is so advanced
now with what you need in your car, then let
you know if there's anything around, because you don't want
you don't want a mistake to happen, like speeding and
getting an accident and having someone pass away. Yep, it's
better that a situation like this happened than alternatives.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
The thing is when you're young, Rick, and you can
attest the desk. When you're young, you feel invincible. You
really think you can fly, You can jump off a
damn building, and you could jump off a ten store
building and I ain't gonna break ish, ain't nothing gonna happen.
You feel invincible because that's how we are, that's how
we become who we are.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
We believe that we're gonna go out there in can't
nobody stop us.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
I'm gonna run for one thousand yards tonight, I'm gonna
catch for four hundred yards tonight. I'm gonna do I'm
on the court, I'm gonna score fifty, I'm gonna track,
I'm a b make a record you have.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
That's that's what separates us, is our mindset.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
We really believe that we are above, not better than
you and just have a person. But I can do
what I do better than you can do what you
can do.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, that's a blessing of a curse. M What do
you think, Rick? I mean, it depends on what if
you got somewhere to put it, you know, I think
that's the key. If you got somewhere to put it,
it's a blessing. When you don't, it becomes a curse.
And I think that's the curse because it don't stop
like that passion, like when we stop playing, that passion

(25:37):
that need to conquer to prove it don't go away.
And if you don't have somewhere to put it, then
it definitely becomes a curse.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, well, how do you turn it off? How do
you say, is I'm not. Now I'm driving my car.
I ain't invincible no more. I go to the game.
I mean I'm invincible, now invincible, I can do this.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
It's hard to turn up because like once you compete. Yeah,
it's hard to turn that. That's the thing that that
athletes have the hardest time doing moving away from the game.
Not all most some because I've been competing my whole life.
Oh Joe, we competed a black football pee wee pop
Warner junior barsaity varsity college.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
So we've been competing.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Basically, I'm fifty seven, so I played football tackle football
for twenty six years. I retired at thirty five, so
since I was nice, So for twenty six years, I've
been competing.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Now, all of a sudden, what I'm gonna do? Who
am I competing against? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
How do how do I turn? How do I suppress that?
How do I turn that off? May you beside me? Oh,
I'm on a treadmill? Oh we racing? Now, I'm just
no racing. We should have got out beside me. There
was three treadmill over there, all over there. You came
to the one beside me. You run it. Okay, we racing.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Hey, you know what now that I think about it too,
now not not not to go off subject a little bit, Yeah,
go ahead, transitioning, Yes, from that competitive nature, that competitive
edge normally when you stop and I believe obviously you
haven't played in a very long time. But look, you
don't suppress anything. You've just taken that competitive nature that
you had in football. You can take TV. You took

(27:10):
it to business. You done took it to linear television.
You donet took it to hell. You done took it
the nightcap. Then you take me, for instance. You listen,
you know, my black ass love to compete. I don't
care what it is, whether it's video games, whether it's
talking trash, whether it's challenging everybody that come on this
goddamn show to do something, whether I'm joking or not.
You know, in the back of my mind, I'm actually
serious because I just want to compete. And I had
that urge to find that love for what I used

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to do on Sundays.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
I got to find somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
I got to find it somewhere, So why not find
it in everything else I'm doing in life?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well except behind the wheel.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Right, Yeah, everybody don't get the opportunity that we got
to go to television and do podcasting and do things
like that. Some people, you know, my brother, like he
got into golf. Yeah, because it's hard to try when
you when you do something for such a long period
of time, it's hard to stop it. That's why addiction
is hard. You know, I become think about it, most

(28:04):
people don't. You don't become addicted one time. You've been
doing it for an extending period of time and now you're.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Like, I mean, oh man, what am iut? I can't drink,
I can't smoke, I can't go, I can't gamble. What
about man? I can't play football? Oat Joe, Man, I
can't gain no more? Man?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
What?

Speaker 3 (28:22):
What? What am I gonna do? What do I do
with this energy that I got? O Joe?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Because I used to burn it off practicing. I used
to burn it off in the game. I used to
burn it off. No, I'm we're gonna meet and I'm
with the guys. Now what do I do with that.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Energy that I got? Nowhere to go, nowhere to put it?
That's a good one. And like that word you just
use the word, you just use addiction. Yeah, having an addiction.
Now I forgot.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
I forgot the statistic they say, I might be wrong,
or correct me if I'm right, rick or if you know,
it takes thirty days to create a habit. So on
my trip, that's what they said. Yeah, thirty days, Yeah,
thirty days of creative habit, but it takes forever to
get rid of that habit.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Hey, uncle, I'm not sure if you have an addiction.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
But but Ricky, for you for some of the smoke
weed for whatever reason, do you think it's an addiction?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
And if you had to stop, could you stop if
need be? Well, it's a hypothetical question, so you have
to give me like a real situation where where I
would have to stop if I wanted to be in danger.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Exactly if I went to the doctor and the doctor
said it's not good for your lungs.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
You need to stop. Yes, they can stop. Okay, okay, okay, Ricky,
did you did you have a vape? No? I never
got a division. Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
The NFL at once was trying to redevalue the running
back positions. Do you think the season last year that
the running back had sa Kwan Barkley, uh Deack Henry JAMR. Gibbs,
Josh Jacobs, uh Joe Mixon. Do you think the running
back position rick is back in bold? Now, It's not

(29:56):
back to.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Like when when we play, but but it's back.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's back from from the past couple of years.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
It is, right, it is, yeah, and not not only
is it back though, right, but it's it's back for
the chier one running backs.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know that select few that you just name.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Obviously you left Christian McCaffrey out because he was injured
yetier but with those players that you just named, that
that the meat and potatoes of the Tier one running backs.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
If they can consistently, if they can consistently change.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
The dynamic and the way owners in GM view that position,
then they will continue to always be able to get
top dollar at the position, regardless of how they feel
about them being valued, because that means they're that much
more important to an offense despite it being a past
happy league.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Right.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
But you you got to be one of the best though, Yeah, yeah,
one of the best. I agree, But I even think
I even think that has a limit because of injuries.
I'm telling you, I've seen it.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
It was my second year in New Orleans Week ten,
my thousand yard of Week ten and.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Broke my ankle.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
I saw the look on my coach's face, and it
kind of it looked like, I will never depend on.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
A running game again. I can see it. I can
see it because none of it's traumatic.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
So I think, you know, it'll go up, but I
think you know, invariably somebody's gonna get hurt and then
it'll kind of come back down.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
It'll go up, it'll come back down.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
And I think one of the ways we would have
known the running back position was back it say, come on,
wall the MVP.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, your team went to the Super Bowl and you run
for two thousand yards and you don't want MVP.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Like, yeah, I think Adrian Peterson was the last guy
to win the MVP, wasn't it eight the running back? Yeah,
I mean it used to be. It used to be.
I mean, look, you can win the MVP. I mean,
but you're Eric Dickerson ran for twenty one oh five.
He didn't win MVP because Damn Marino threw for five
thousand yards and forty touchdowns, So you could you're like, okay,
five thousand, forty eight touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, if the MVP we know read for
twenty one oh five.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
But now it's kind of like the same thing with
the uh in the h college unless a back has
a bad Sanders type season, because these quarterbacks are throwing
for five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns. Otom And if
you go back and look at the court the running
backs that have successful season, look at the quarterback. Jalen

(32:22):
Hurts won the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson was a two
time league MVP. You look at Joe Mixon, he has CJ. Stroud,
Jamier Gibbs, he had Jared Goff. You look at Josh Jacobs,
he had Jordan Love. So you go look at so
the days of you just, oh, I got a running back,
You're gonna have a quarterback. Yeah, because if your quarterback

(32:43):
is not a threat, oh, they're gonna take They're gonna
take that running back away. I'm going to make me.
I am going to make you beat me with your
B option. You will not beat me with your A option.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah. And uh, well, we'll see, we'll see if.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
This is a trick, if this thing is trending up,
or last year was just an anomaly season, because you know,
you got to oh, Joe, you know how they make
running backs do it for an extended period of time.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
See on the quarterback. I have one good year old.
We got to pay him.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, running back, they got to put together two, three, four,
five years.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yes, I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Drew Brees says his right arm does not work due
to football injuries. Drew said he suffers from the genditor's shoulder,
all kinds of authoritic changes. When I throw in the
backyard right now, I throw left handed. I think that
was the you know what that was the shoulder that
he tried to jump on a fumble and it's arm
within all the way around because John almost yeah in

(33:43):
San Diego, yep, his last year in San Diego. Rick,
do you have any last thing injury? Do you have
anything that prohibits you from doing things that? Look, we
all as we get Look, we're not gonna be perfect
as we get older, because everybody thinks, man, you should
feel that nothing should ate like you did when you
was in your twenties. Bro, you forty five and fifty
and sixty years old, it's gonna hurt. Do you have

(34:04):
any lasting injuries things that bother you?

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Now?

Speaker 7 (34:07):
Rick?

Speaker 5 (34:09):
And every once in a while, my neck and my
shoulder will flare up or to get that singing painting
down my down my shoulder.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
It'll last maybe a week, then it'll go away. Probably
happens a couple a couple of times, a couple of
times a year.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
You put out one of you, you put out one
of the thing like, oh yeah, man, I don't know nothing,
nothing hurts, brother, iri, brother.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I can't. I can't say that. I can't.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
I can't say that I really just have this naked
shoulder thing. But you know, but it's well, I'll tell
you though, if if I don't do if I don't
do some kind of younger or chee young or tai
chi or meditation for three or four days, then I
feel like I'm eighty years old. It's something I have
to say. I have to stay.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
On on on top of pretty much every day. Ty
Chi is soft karate, hey exactly. Yeah, you got it. Hey,
it is like, what the what the hell? I know? Yo,
I know a yoga? What the hell's tattoo that it does?
To show you.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
Do it?

Speaker 3 (35:11):
It can do it again?

Speaker 7 (35:14):
It's for real.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
That's that's ta chee. Yeah, that's what you know.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, it's kind of like it's more meditated known as
a soft karate. Yeah, you solve karate, that's what they call.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
It's one way to think about it is you move
so slowly that you start to feel every single little
muscle and ligament and tendon that's doing the movement. So
it wakes it up because you know, when we get stiffed,
we just I mean, use it or lose it.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
I heard all people say that. I didn't believe it
until until I got old, and it's true. So I
gotta do something. And I can't really live weights, and
I want to live weights, and I don't really want
to run.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
So yoga and tai chi chi gung perfect. Hey, now
that's exciting. Now I might want to try that.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
I try some tattle, some some chachi, I like, I
bet you'll love it.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
You'll love it. Yeah, okay, here, I love it. I
bet you you will watch watch Hey see, hey, Rick,
I can't. I can't.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
They talk about pilates, you know, they talk about yoga like,
I can't sit still, Rick, I got to be I
got to be moving. I got to be move I
got to do something.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
You moving so slow actually said, it's not like a
fast it's not like kung fu.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
A jetson coon or nothing like that. It's really slow.
All the movement.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
The movements are deliberate, right, so all the energy it
goes into the focus.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
It's still movement and you still use an energy.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
But whereas you as you do more and more and
get better, you literally start to feel everything in your body.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Okay, okay, okay, you'll like it. Yeah, Tachi, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Lamar Jackson went off on Egle fan Egle fan on Instagram.
Wind up the f Have I ever complained? Just say
we have a solid on paper roster so far. That's
all of a ish not called for. You don't play
for the Eagle, lott bro continue to be a fan
of the game.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yeah yeah, hey, talk see what we see? What I
told you about telling the truth? Huh you see what
I'm saying, Open it up? You see how players are
open it up? Now we talk about Lamar Jackson, someone
who rarely talks. You know, he's not one that is
very voicious at times. He talks to the media because
it's he's obligated to contractually.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
But I like seeing stuff like this. Eagles fans. I
love Eagles fans. Hell, I love the goddamn Eagles himselves.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
But I love players that at times clap back and
try to put fans in their place, because listen, you're
a fan of the team, a fan of the game.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
But you don't play. You know, you don't play.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Everyone has an opinion that everyone has been afforded a
platform and voice because of social media. So I'm glad
players are taking the onus to let fans know, let's
stay in your place. I think it's cool.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
I like.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's an art. It's
an art top back without feeling like you're taking personally.
You know, you're drawing the line in the sand.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Mm hmm. I like it. I like it. Oh where
you at?

Speaker 7 (38:19):
Hey, Rick?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
What part? What part you You saw you in Dallas? No,
I'm in northern California, up up in the mountains. Yeah,
you in the mountains, up in the mountains.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yep, hold on, what hey, y'all got y'all got animals
out there?

Speaker 5 (38:31):
We don't got animals. But there's a goat and a
horse to go to the horse to horses next door.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Okay, okay, okay, okay. I like that. I thought you'd
be out there hunting, okay, okay, right, never been hund before.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
I tried to go huntre one time, duck out one time.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
But I think I'll watch too many movies.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Every time I pulled up the shaku and I cock
it and Michelle would jump out the fly out.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Hey what you cocked for? These foot be already loaded, Rick, fire,
I've just seen in movies. I thought, you know, no, no,
you know now you ejecting the shell the shell. If
you do that, that's not happen. It happened like five times. Yeah, Rick,
I'll be honest with y'all. Think you've got the heart
to really kill an animals?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I think that's the mechanism to make sure you don't
go through with that act.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Rick.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
That's a good thing that you do have that mindset,
the fact not being able to kill animal, because my
grandma always told me, if you can kill animal, you
can kill a human.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
You know, step step.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Stepping on ants, stepping on, stepping on roadches. I never
used to do that. I always used to catch them
and place them outside so they can go home and
be free.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah, the squirrels kill squirrels. Hey, catching fish? How do
you think the fish feel? Do you think the fish
people go fishing.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Uh, didn't the habitat didn't Jesus feed or flock of
people with fish?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
You sure did? And brand he had, well, forty loads
and two fishing.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
You know it's two fishing six It was six loves
and six loads.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Hey, I don't know. I gotta haller at Jesus. Boy,
I'm trying to see how you feed? How you how
you feed that many people with two goddamn fish? Now?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
How you got to show me? Well, if you keep
living right, you might go. You might have a conversation
with it, and he might be able to show you
you keep living foul. He got to turn away.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Oh no, we listen, listen, listen right now, right, hey,
I'll walk by faith. You know you know it's ten commandments, right, Yes,
I got eight of them down pass But.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
The mother too hard? They're hard, huh, he said, faith?
But faith? And what me? Yeah? Faith in?

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Hey, Rick, I got I got faith in doing right.
I got I got faith in doing right at any time.
At anytime I backslide, I ask for forgiveness and get
right back on trash.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Okay, now, now what you backslide, you have for forgiveness.
You can't back slide to get it now, Well, I'm.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Gonna do it. But they want one thing.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
One thing is say in the Bible it say come
before me after thou mistake, it make a mistake, and
I just do just that.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
H My Abby has always had an explosive offence. You
were a part of many prolific backfields, Ricky. Now Miami

(41:40):
have eight chan Tyreek and Wadle. Is this to your
Miami gifts over the hump?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
If Tula can stay healthy, Yes, that's what everything that
always aggressed, always the question with Miami, we talk to
stay healthy. They went to the playoffs said is up? Yeah, hey,
fans up? Uh, fans up. We're gonna win the AFC East.
How about that? What Buffalo go? Where did it move

(42:09):
Buffalo to?

Speaker 7 (42:10):
Who?

Speaker 2 (42:11):
But where it moved the Bills to the Bills? Not
no longer need listen. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Let me tell you how to Let me tell you
how the AFC work is gonna work this year.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Okay, the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Are gonna have to come to the Dolphins when it's
time for the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Right, We're gonna.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Win the games that matter most, so we have home
field advantage and we don't have to take our ass
to the goddamn cold in late December of January and
have to play them goddamn bills in the cold. That's
the problem with us. We ain't want a gain in
the cold weather, which has been our kryptonite since nineteen
fifty eight.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
But guess what, it's cold in Baltimore, it's cold in
Kansas City, it's cold in Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Those are three teams.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I will suspect if I had to, you had to
make me wager some money, that meant something to me.
And if it's my money, it means something to me.
But I think they're gonna have better records than Miami.
So with that being said, y'all probably gonna have to
take y'all lads on the road again.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Can I tell you something to you? You know? You
know it hurts my heart too, uh Rick.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
And the fact that they're there there there rumblings, there's
discussions that the trade might be happening, you know, with
Jayalen Ramsey.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Uh They're they're trying to do work out whatever it
may be.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I'm not sure why you want to get rid of
a player of that magnitude who is well within his rights,
still very good at what he does, especially in Man
and Man. I I don't I don't understand what's going
on for us the Dolphins in itself, and and and
management and owners and and Mike McDaniel. I'm not sure
what's going on in that area in the AFC East.

(43:39):
You got a lot of good receivers, yeah, a lot
of good receivers, and you need a lockdown corner like
Jalen Ramsey who's in, who's been an All Pro, who's
been to the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Uh, to lock down one side or at least give
you a chance, you know.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
And that's no disrespect to the other defensive backs that's
that's on that team.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
But this is someone that is proven at the position.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Well, my my thing is, why why not trade him
in the off season? Why not trade him during the draft?
Why to have people get ready to go to training camp?

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Now? Why you try to trade him now?

Speaker 4 (44:08):
I don't think it's gonna happen. If it hasn't happened
by now, I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't
think it's gonna happen until somebody gets hured.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
True, Remember he has that, he has a basis twenty
men and I don't think anyone anyone wants to take
on that that base going on.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Well, I think the thing is, O Joe, is that
if you trade somebody get hurt, you're gonna have to,
you know, take on that kind of salary. But I
just think the thing else is that it made more
sense to me. This is not something that just popped
up out of the blue. You probably knew you wanted
to trade him after the season ended. So now you
start working in that direction, Okay, probably not gonna be

(44:48):
able to get maximum value. You might have to get
up uffing for a fourth round pick. I know you
want more, and he deserves for. But what you deserve
and what somebody's willing to trade for they know you
want to get rid or something, I'm not giving you
market value for it if I know you want to
get rid of it.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Oh Joe, right, you're right, You're right. I know a
good place for him too. Now you know the Beals
ain't gonna pay no money. I wasn't listen, you see,
I wasn't even for the state of Bengals, but I
mean for them, for these fans that that that they
waited for thirty years, they were waited for thirty years,
and I think it'll be a huge improvement. He looked
what the Ravens did and going to get Ja Alexander

(45:25):
and both six million.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Jalen Ramsey cost him twenty million, and that's a one
year deal and Jalen Ramsey probably got three more years
on that deal.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
You're right, But I was just thinking about Jalen over
there with that star on his helmet in Jerry's world
at at and T Staum.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
I'm just I'm just throwing it. I'm just throwing it
out there.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
They've already boasted the offense, so why not going to
add another piece on defense and slidified that corner position
that Jarry.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Justs could have got Dag Henry for eight million dollars.
You mean to tell me he gonna go spend twenty
million dollars on a corner?

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Hold on, think about what you just said, the running
back position that owners don't relieve value, especially Jerry Jones.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
You know he don'tkid nobody that that's derreck Henry. See
you see, I love the way he said that. You
said that with enthusiasm. You said an enthusiast where you
think is not the way he thinks. Right one to
check on things like that. And that's the last time
Jerry spent big money in free agency. See when the
last time Jerry won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
I'm I'm just trying to tell you to think can
be true.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Jerry believes in drafting.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Jerry does not believe in paying guys or giving up
draft capital to bring a guy in.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
I think the last guy they traded for it probably
was Roy Waives.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
They gave up because think about it, they gave a
two first round picks for Joint Galloway. They gave a
two first round picks for Roy Willis from the Lions,
and it didn't work out well for him. Yeah, this
the one time it did work out well. From they
got time, they won a Super Bowl. But Time is
a generational talent, Yes he is. Rick thanks so much
for joining us tonight. Tell the chat where they can
find you out on social media.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah so I'm Williams and following on this stuff and
Ricky Ricky Williams and on our X.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
All right, all right, bro, come back when you u
when they are when you're going back to fight Texas
about that marijuana last, come back and tell us how
you do it. I sure will thank you, appreciate you brother. Yeah,
all right, chat yo, oh Joe, look at this. Hey,
guess what, Joe, it's a ninth Cap Show twenty twenty

(47:30):
five Podcast of the Year, Shouting Shark and Chad Johnson.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Hey, Hey, I like that. I like that. I been,
I've been. I've been working on my French too.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
I've been working a see me my my award.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be a bide that on, Joe. Hey,
guess guess what what? Guess where the web is coming? Well,
we're in mamoney. We're in mamony. Hey, I like you
owed me fifty nine hundred and you get your awards.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Wait, come overs, I enty nine come over side that? Yeah?
I need that. Hey, Jim, jall, what what's up? Jim?
Hey Jim? You upside down? What's up? Hold on? How
I go? And then so we turned it sideways. I'm
better now now? You better now? Yeah, you're definitely better. Now.

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What would they do?

Speaker 7 (48:26):
Twe what's something?

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Man? How you doing? Been in this gym? You know?
I'm looking rocked up like I just did seventeen.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
We gotta stay in there. We gotta stay in there.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
All right, guys, Jim Jones is joining us as O
Joe was breaking it. Man, Jim, how you doing, bro?

Speaker 3 (48:45):
How you feeling on brother? You're good?

Speaker 7 (48:48):
Yeah, I'm good man.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Life is good. God is good. I can't complain. Yeah,
So talk to us a little about this music thing.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
You've been in this thing for a minute now, So
talk about Jim Jones of twenty years ago Jim Jones today.
Have you noticed anything different in the music industry? Have
you noticed have you tried to do anything different with
your sound to keep up with the way the industry
is headed?

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yeah, the industry.

Speaker 7 (49:12):
The industry has tremendously.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
From when I started.

Speaker 6 (49:17):
It wasn't no social media for for for one, we
started in two thousand and three Room my first first deal,
and even before that when Cam started with his deal.
So these kids got a bit of advantage when it
comes to marketing the promo that we didn't have that
access to a lot of information that we didn't have.
A lot of people say it works against us, but
I think it works for us. And watching the way

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that these kids work and in the present day and
things like that, I've learned a lot from them from
how they carry their music from how they sellate musics,
them from how they marketing and promote their music. Us
as being here for so too long, for so long
we've seen we tend to get caught up and out
down and sold ways from yesterday and carry artists, but
that's not the way you carry artists today. So they
are platinum artists that have they nosed up the because

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they're big platinum artists, but.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
That don't count to today's society. They don't carry it
the same way.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
So what I've chose to do was always chose to
try to reinvent myself, but not to the ploy where
I'm chasing. But there's a medium not reached because I
always want to teach these kids, but I always want
to learn something also, So you know that and and
what reinvent yourself. You've got to be willing to be
disciplined to know what direction you want to go. And
when it comes to reinventing yourself, you know what I mean.
One of the things I credit do is the g

(50:27):
The gim is one of the biggest attributes to me
being able to do uh sustain this long in the game.
Sustainability is a lawful jim.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Let me ask you this, and I see this a
lot and a lot, especially in music, and I see
this with and television and entertainment actress actresses. Is like, man,
every record that he put out, it sounds the same. Okay,
he does something different, Man, he don't sound like the
old guy. He don't sound like he used to okayuh

(50:58):
A doctor. They try actress, They try to do a
different role than what we used to see him.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Man, I like when he did that. I don't like.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I don't like this new. So you want the guy
to change. You want the individual to change and give
you something different. And when they give you something different,
you say, they don't sound the same and you don't
like it.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
So how does someone win? Now? The person that that
I have.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
The utmost respect for what she's been able to do
is beyond say beyond saying as big as you can
get in one jenre and she says, you know what,
I will go over here and I'm gonna do this.
I mean it takes it takes some guts Jim to
do that.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
I mean, she like Michael Jordan.

Speaker 6 (51:37):
With Michael Jordan left the NBA, he went to the
to the MBL, the Major Leap and MLBA.

Speaker 7 (51:46):
He had to have a lot of guts, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Like same with Liked or Dion when he was playing
football and playing baseball and being successful at the same
time in both in both of them sports, I mean,
and that takes a lot of heart and I don't
I haven't seen anybody else do that successfully the way
that Beyons has has on it. So I took my
hat to the barriers that she continue to break uside
of this music industry.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Yeah, Hey, Jimmy, what do you think right now about
the state of the state of hip hop where it
is right now? How do you feel about it, especially
with the young dudes with the sound now? Obviously I
think when it comes to to rap in general, hip
hop in general, I think the sound changes every ten years.
What do you how do you seek about this era
of hip hop right now that we're in Do you

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do you like it?

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Have you embraced it? What I mean?

Speaker 6 (52:29):
My in my opinion, it doesn't matter because I had
my time where we would dictating the sound of musical
and we had a ball and there were older people
that was hating on the time that we had things
like that. I encourage these youngsters to be as creative
as they can, as long as it's connecting with the
crowded and people are singing your ship and they're going
to your to your shows, And who am I to

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say I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Music when they're out here's thanking ship. You know what
I mean? You did? But yeah, so it's like you
gotta find you got to stay true to yourself.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
But find your rhythm and the bs going on. You're
gonna be lost in the sauce. So you're gonna be
looking like an old dude. You're gonna be looking like
it has been. Like you understand, I'm not into that.
My energy ain't for that. Your If I'm gonna be
a contender in this game, I'm gonna play at the top,
at the top of.

Speaker 7 (53:13):
My ability to play.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
I'm not gonna take no shortcuts enough and I'm minute
in a minute. I mean, I gotta content with the
younger boys that go content with older boys. That means
I gotta come to steppings. They only respect bolence and
not to say violence, but you know what I mean,
Like they gotta see that shit you're digging right while
I'm in the game, I'm.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Gonna show them that shit like.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
People don't get a twisted like I'm I'm a man
of many, many different things. Like my rapper hat is one.
It's one hat to that wear. But if I'm rapping
and I'm in it, I'm then in it.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Lo's up.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
I'm going against all ours and what I gotta do
to maintain be a contender in this game to keep
feeding my family and making the money that make off this.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
I think people get that twisted when they see me
talking and pop up my shit and shit like that.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
That's just one character that I gotta put out there
for you all to eat up, you know what I mean.
But I'm matter of fact.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Hold on, I'm gonna let you let's go. I justly
I saw some I saw some comments. I saw a
clip about you know, and you and Push. I'm not
sure if you and Push, you know, got these type
of beef or whatever. I just saw something about you,
you know, talk about the age trumpet you did, you
didn't like, you didn't like the album, like the song
uh you know what he raps about believable.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
I don't got no beef for it.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
I don't got no beef for nobody, you know, Okay, okay,
I'm just half of it, is my opinion. Half of
it is me bringing the algorithm Halpen that is feeding
into people's simplicity because social media is for that, you
know what I mean. And like I said, I'm a
rapper in this game. It comes with the territory. You
gotta be very competitive. It's a very competitive sport and
you better have some thick skin. I ain't say nothing.

(54:42):
I want to hurt nobody, to do nothing nobody. Everything
I've been talking about strictly about the art of world
when it comes to the music now, withadays now, maybe
ten years ago, fifteen years ago, it would have been
a different outcome of what I was, you know what
I mean, when I was projecting, I'm not on that,
and I think a lot of that. I guess with
it and with the Jimmy Jones help today and.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Things like that.

Speaker 6 (55:03):
I ain't got a positive nobody and I ain't got
no optional nothing. And you know, it's part to me
that I've been working on every day. So tell sometimes
I talk way too fast than I should have heard,
but it's part of the games.

Speaker 7 (55:16):
Who I don't care you did I hate it.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (55:18):
I'm gonna turn it into into a victory for me.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yes, check this out, Jim.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
It seems to me since this past summer, what passed
last summer when Kendrick had that disk, It seems like
now people are just like, yo, hey, we saw the
success that Kendrick had, got five Grammys, he hosted that,
you know, halftime showed the Super Bowl, blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
We see a lot more dissing going on. Is that
what if that were We're headed.

Speaker 7 (55:44):
Now, Dan, where you've been at? You don't remember Tucac.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
You see the success that Tupac had it.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Look what about what about this is?

Speaker 7 (55:56):
This is a competitive sport. The rap is built on that.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
Kendrick and Drake having what they have was no surprise
to the rap industry. I mean people look at it
as something, but this is what the arto rap is about.
It's a very competitive spot and you gotta be ready
to be on top of your game when it comes
to that. So if you put something out, you gotta
be ready for the same energy to come back at you.
That's what rap is about. Some people don't go down
that lane. Some people go around the lane. Some people

(56:22):
go right through it. I'm one of the people that
go right through it. Whe lose a draw, I keep
the same face.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Hold on, hold on, yamm Bro, I'm not looking for
you to come at me. I put you on. Remember
I used to have you on my I used to
have I used to use the tour with me. You
used to open up for me.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Bro. You know you remember that right with nobody? What
book you you remember that you.

Speaker 7 (56:47):
Heard this song?

Speaker 6 (56:47):
You have this you heard the same When rivals, I
mean idols become your rivals.

Speaker 7 (56:51):
That's what the rap game is about.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
Did Alan Allison hesitate to shake Michael Jordan up when
he got an NBA? No, okay, because he was on
another team. I might not stop to love he had
for Mike. But while we on this battlefield, my team
gotta win and I wouldn't to kill anybody that's in
front of me for my team to win. And that
was all Adamson's attitude. You gotta understand what happens when
you come into this game. Your idols become your rifles.

(57:14):
There's no passes. When we on the other team, we
didn't meet you at the party. We can laugh pop champagne,
but right now while we on this field, while we
on this court.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Oh, I'm coming to scrape shit up. Now we can't
pop no more champagne. You got people laughing at me.
And guess what they playing in the football game. They
played at the basketball game, not like us. Oh no,
we can't pop no champagne.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
After that, you ate.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
A matter of fact, I'm the club down eight. If
he ate, if he coming, I ain't coming. I mean,
but I just told you that's what this is. Competitive
the sport.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
Now you gotta it got different levels to it and
things like that, But that's what this was built on.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
You heard.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
So it's it's it's it's sad that they gotta go
to such lamps when it comes to artists getting at
each other when it comes to the music.

Speaker 7 (57:55):
But which good want you to project is what you're
gonna get.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
So just have that same energy you put out there,
because somebody coming right back at you with that same
energy sooner or later.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Well, let me ask you. Let me ask you one
more question, don't Joe? So are we gonna get some
new music? Because we follow you and Cam kind of
going back and forth, as the dip said, coming back,
y'all gonna leak up together and give us some new music.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Yes or no? Uh?

Speaker 6 (58:15):
Right now worried about myself, Dip set is always Dip said,
the birds still fly. I've been having a bird on
my bag for the past fifteen years when nobody was
worried about you think, so that's gonna go. But right
now I gotta worry about me. I gotta worry about
my endeavors. I gotta worry about my business. I gotta
worry about my family, you dig. I've done a lot
for diplomats where it didn't did me nothing at the time.
But right now, where I'm at in my life, what

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works for me and what I'm worried about is myself.
I can't tell you what the future may hold or
what the future may bring. I'm not taking nothing off
the table, we think, but right now it's about stimages
and yeah, I am a diplomat owner.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Bet go ahead, o Joe, I like that. Listen, and
you took the question.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Now I was finna ask, and I think I think
you know what history peace itself, Jimmy history orgery, piece
of self off. And most of the time when the
history of piece itself, it comes back even big and better.
I think mess is gonna have her. They're gonna have reunion.
I think y'all boys going re unite. And despite your differences,
despite whatever situation y'all might have, you know, all that
can be fixed behind closed doors. That ain't nothing but

(59:14):
a conversation that just got to be had, especially when
making that money.

Speaker 7 (59:20):
Or check your a nice check always calls things down.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
You heard. I'm not a man. You heard, you did,
but I understand me.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
But right now where I'm at, until that happens, until
some business gits put on the table with advantage just
for all sides. Right now, I gotta worry about what
Capo's doing. And it's been working for me that way,
you know what I mean. I've been staying out of
everybody's way a little bit, you know what I mean,
trying to every dad work on me every day I
get better and things like that. I'm unapologetic. You dig
and I don't have no regression, you know me, but

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I do. I do work on myself every day, you know.
I mean, I'm not a perfect man. You did, but
I'm the perfect example of what can happen if you
stay down till you come up and That's what I
did plenty of times.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Jimmy like, look, you want the old Jad's rap. I mean,
hip hop is fifty years of age. You've been in
this thing two decades.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
I ain't fifty. I'm forty eight.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
I said, hip hop. Oh it's fifty. I thought you
were shooting it at me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
My bad, dah da dad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Hip hop is fifty. But you've been in this thing
for two decades, right, I've been in this stace. Yes,
it's a little bit more than that. Since nineteen ninety seven,
I Cam got his first deal. So I'm like twenty
eight years into two.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Okay, almost three decades one hundred percent, and I've been
saying I signed.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I've been signed my first deals two decades ago.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
How do you determine who you How do you determine
who you work with now? When you want to work
with the young artists? Uh, how do you go about that?
How do you like man? I kind of like him.
I think we can make some beautiful music together.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I mean, I hold no pressure this.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
I'm looking for U great music, and I'm looking looking
for great aesthetic. U used to give everything in today's
world when it comes to music. If you've got a
lifestyle that you could sell. These kids get buy into that.
That's just as good as having a great hit song
and things like that. And now that's how it worked
for me. So it's a combination of things that I
look for to work with the lso to stupidness with
the artists. But as far as doing music with the
arts and things like that, I'm just saying, I'm the

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love of music.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
So if I hear a.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
Record that I and I think it's dope, and I
think the artist is dope, I'm reach out to them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
How do you stay motivated? All? We lost it? Yeah,
I think we lost it? Oh damn that was that
was good. I was enjoying that. Bron Hey, I'm thinking.
I'm thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
I'm thinking about I'm thinking about rapping, man, shoot man,
Huh what you think?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Oh Joe? What' you're gonna rap about?

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
O Yoe?

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
For me?

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
Hey, I mean, I'm just saying I'm gonna rap about
things that that I've experienced in life. You know that
that's that's that's the best thing to wrap about it.
That's the most rappers They rap about the things that
they've experienced, you know, the ups and downs, the goods,
the bad, you know, the ws, the l's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
I think I can put it together. You think so,
oh oh you back?

Speaker 6 (01:02:06):
Oh yeah, it looks like ah, you look like a
French painter with a little bit of Bisy from Brooklyn
with that all you know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, I just can't. I just came
from the south of France. I was down there for
six days, so I just got back yesterday after vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
You still still still so I'm still I'm still on
my on my suaves.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
Still stealing that ship. I get it, I get it.
I get it. At this junct of the game, what
keeps you motivated?

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
What gifts Jim makes Jim jump out of bed, pressed
down hard as he can and press go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
What what keeps you going? I will say the money.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
But I've been making money for a long time, and
the opportunity to take care of my family. I've been
doing that for a long talk about this point, I've
been doing a lot, So I've been My mission is
betting to get back more than I took. But I
was able to take a lot and I'm still taking.
So That's where I'm at in life right now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
You know what I mean. The more blessed people, the market,
blessed man.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
It's just a testament of hard work and being resilient
and and and being in real with yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Could I ask you a question, Jim, you smoke right?

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Yeah? Were you smoking when you said you better than Nods?
I might have been a little bit. Well.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
As far as let's let's get this right, I'm way
more influence you Thannads.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
And I don't care what nobody say. I know I
made it. I know I made a little boobo.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
When you talk about the sales and all this type
of ship, I don't feel like get into that rhetoric
about where I started it where. But listen, Nads was
nice when I was in high school. When I was
in tenth grade, Nos came out, Nads was doing. We
appreciated him. You had a little bit of rue. But
Nas always came up second to j and DM Mexican
all these other people like he. He never had that

(01:03:56):
type of influence on us except for his first album.
I already told you I used to want to dress
like now because he had a lot of first clothes
that the hustlers.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Used to wear ship and we used to see him
on TV.

Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
He had one of the Illis albums of all time,
and then in high school when he had the BARBEATU.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
And shit like that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
So I'm a real fan of ours, but he kind
of lost me after Bell the movie Belly and ship
like that, like it, I don't go ahead with that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
I'm trying to tell you I'm being hot. You one
of you asking me. You know I'm being a fan.

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
I'm telling you from the movie Belly was fired, but
after that he kind of lost me. I don't think
I think we was way too much into the game.
Remember how this goes. That's not you ever heard of
a coofee list? Yeah, you go back into your history
and find out what happened between us and them. You
didn't And I'm not trying to repeat history, but don't
play with us when it comes to that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Bro, we already went when when when went wild on
them boys, You're we're the ones that went wild on
them boys. You're a y and and people out here
acting like.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
I said, I'm gonna bring the coofee list back.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I just told you.

Speaker 7 (01:04:47):
I'm gonna change man. Stephan blog, can you dick Look?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah, bro, you've been at this thing, but lyrically, I
would be I would keep it a stack with you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
Yeah, dress, you don't even be in the same place
as I be in the things that to listen to
in the church.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
You can't. We don't know who told you that? You
know what? You bro, not a bunch.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
Of forty years You got a bunch of forty or
fifty year olds in their panties because I said I'm
better than it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Don't matter nobody from nobody, from the dips.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
But you that shirt.

Speaker 6 (01:05:27):
I gotta shirt, jim Jimmy, you want to go back
to I really mean it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
I really mean it. Star you could go back.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
But but you don't do that, bro, that shirt taking up?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I got. I got a question.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
I got a question self, and meet me in a
booth for something if we want to do something historical.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Who you don't do that? No more, don't. Because he
got a hundred million dollars. He's a very wealthy man.

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
You heard, he's a very small business man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
He caught a couple of hold on, hold on, Jimmy,
hold on, I got a question.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Hold on, hold Helo, hold on, jim Heldo, hold on,
I got a question. And this this speaking Jimmy and
anything that you do. Right. I've heard you preach it
all the time. Right when you was playing football.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
You your first thing, you always say, ain't nobody here
better than me? Tell them at you told me that story.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Listen to.

Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
Anybody in this world.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Hold on, hold on, Jimmy, Jimmy, let me let me Jimmy,
stay with me real quick, Stay with me now. I
don't stay with me now. But I'm just saying that mentality.
Isn't that how you suppose the field? Isn't that how
you supposed to feel?

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Let me ask your question. When you was on the field,
you thought you was better than t On and Moss?
Hell yeah, what you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Came on here and saying I ain't better than Moss,
I'm not better than t O, I'm not better than Rice.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
You said that. I'm not playing the game no more.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
But when you were playing good Prad jim problem.

Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
I'm still playing. I'm still playing at a high level.
You've been checking my king. I'm playing John.

Speaker 7 (01:07:06):
I'm rapping at a high level. You better check my stats, bro.

Speaker 6 (01:07:09):
I wont I will know it was around nas wapping, right,
I will run circles around nas wrapping right now. I
would wanting around nas right now rapping. Everybody knows that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
He about the past, that he put it down. He said,
I will.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
Run laps around NOAs wrapping right now, bro jail, I'm
going right now. But I'm with y'all. And he couldn't
see it. I'm still in it. Cham was smoking his boots.
I wasn't rapping when he was wrapping, but Cham really
got at him. Remember, I really mean it. We've been
getting nothing, boys, But it's not about that. Right now,

(01:07:50):
twenty twenty five, I'm in the game, still wrapping at
the high capacity of Noah's wants to smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Come in the booth.

Speaker 7 (01:07:55):
I will wrap.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
He enjoyed that fifty million.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
Leave me alone while I'm on the field. I'm on
the field. I'm picking on whoever, whoever, whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:08:07):
I don't tell. I'm on the field.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
And guess who, Kendrick.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
You didn't talk to somebody that's still in it. He
ain't in it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
Why can't think my age? I wasn't the day in
my error, I ain't got.

Speaker 6 (01:08:29):
That's not my error. He retired. Have you ever heard
of retirement? Well that's my error. So I'm calling all
of them out. I don't care if you retired or
not deal with that's not meet me.

Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
And the booth.

Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
And I'm just talking about I'm not mad at let's
get Let's just get let's get this right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
I'm not mad.

Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
It's about the sportsmanship for the game. People know I'm
a very aggressive person. I seem to give mister Shu
when I'm talking my ship, I'm just talking my ship.
Let me talk my ship because I am on the field.
If anybody got a problem with that, they can meet
me on the field. That is the boost. Anybody from
that error. Anybody, hey, well I got you know what.
Anybody from that error. Anybody well, you and Jada in

(01:09:14):
the same era. Anybody from that eraor the only try
to Jada stop.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Stop.

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
Anybody from that error. Stop.

Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
I'm not saying I'm not scared of nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
You speed right now.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Anybody from that error, I'm in the.

Speaker 7 (01:09:39):
Boot. Anybody you want to walkout, tell him come to
the field.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
We got this is the perfect opportunity. You're not even
paying attention. Your antennas ain't up right now. Listen, he said.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Anybody from his error, anybody that he in the field,
right ship. We can have our own verses on that
our own nightcap versus.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Nah, I got detail. It's deeper than the verses. It's
about who's making music. Meet me and the boot, put
the record up, Give us a time to do the
record by, give us a subject, and let's see who
wants smoke who on the booth. That's it, man, Come on,
It's about the sportsmanship.

Speaker 7 (01:10:14):
It's about the craftsmanship. Fucking numbers. Fuck the records you heard,
because we both got records that can smash.

Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
We both got nigga. Meet me in the booth. Fuck
all that old school ship. Won't playing on records from
twenty years ago. I am not nostalgic, nigga. It's twenty
twenty five. Don't want to smoke. Met me in the booth.
Set it up and we can do it for money.
They looking pay for it. How y'all want to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
We can make the spectacle out here. I'm a sport.
I got dolls.

Speaker 7 (01:10:43):
I got dolls. You will get him in a booth.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
I got anybody in the booth.

Speaker 7 (01:10:52):
I will pull up by myself on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
My What you get about?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
They can't help you start spending, just gonna get.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
To help you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Hey, you're not seeing the vision seeing edition, because the
opportunity you have to start buying bagg of your clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Big fellows man, you talk about you in the gym.
Now you want to get me. You want to want
me to see me in the jail. Oh, we can
do that. That is, see me in the jail. We're
talking about working about.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
Working out the strength, about working out a strength work
however you want to do it. We're talking about what
you've got money, and we're talking about working out. Thank you.
So you're talking about working out, you're talking about working out.

Speaker 7 (01:11:39):
I burn you.

Speaker 6 (01:11:40):
You're talking about walking down the stremp because you probably
can lend.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
It out for more than me. You're probably charging what.

Speaker 7 (01:11:46):
You're talking about working out, you're talking about working out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
If burn you, This ain't what you do. This ain't
what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
I was doing talking about check the stack down the
stands to go to my I g set it up, bad,
Please just set it up. If you want guys like you,
what you want to start start on, how you want
to do.

Speaker 7 (01:12:11):
What you want to start on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
You ain't put a training.

Speaker 7 (01:12:18):
In between your.

Speaker 6 (01:12:18):
Young do not back, do not come there landing tomorrow
and give you bro, you too small, bro you're talking
a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
What you want to do? You want to do? You? Hey,
stick to what you do?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
You don't want to get got away from you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:39):
But you got do you want to do?

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
What I want to compete to? How are we doing?
Start without you? You can't. You don't get you don't.

Speaker 7 (01:12:54):
Let me tell you want to start. Let me tell
you want story. Let me tell you want story. I'm
gonna tell you want story. How I meant until your Brown?

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
My son said you you know Antonio Brown live up
the block because I live on the beach and shit
like that.

Speaker 7 (01:13:04):
I'm like, who is that? He's like, you showed me
to my dmzum. He's like, oh yeah, you play football,
Come get this workout.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
So I get on the beach.

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
Uh tam New Inn And like a few other NFL
play ain't gon see nobody name. He made two of
them go home because I was I finished the workout
before they finished the workout.

Speaker 7 (01:13:19):
Bro, do not play with me. I'm a beast nigga.
I will I will go crazy, Yeah, Shannon, I.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Will go crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:13:25):
And you what do you want to do?

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
You want to you want to work out or you
want to do strong ship you huh? Because so you
can lift wrong than me, but you can't work out
with me. Bro, I'm a beast, nigga, a.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Bet yeh.

Speaker 7 (01:13:38):
Up nothing. You can't do nothing with me?

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Bro, dude, you undred fifty proud you should do muscle up.

Speaker 8 (01:13:44):
I wait, I weigh one ninety five. I wait ninety five.
With my Instagram. Go to my instagram right now. I
walk out every day I post.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
It, I don't post it.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
Don't play with me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
I work out the feetric I posted every day. Niggas,
what's up? Don't what day?

Speaker 7 (01:14:03):
You want me to come to Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
I ain't even in that lamin. I'm gonna come see you.

Speaker 7 (01:14:08):
Oh coming on? We got jamps.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Where do you wanna do it? A rat show?

Speaker 7 (01:14:13):
You want to do a live on the show thirty
minute one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Though I don't. I don't do anything for show, just
me and you, and I just want you to know
that your doing what you do.

Speaker 7 (01:14:21):
You see what I'm saying, old show?

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Hey see you about the show? I want well, I
want into the show. Gets the dough? You never heard that?
Yeah no, don't no show. What's up?

Speaker 7 (01:14:34):
You're scared? I know you've got a lot on the line.

Speaker 6 (01:14:39):
Because you're a professional football player explaootball player. I don't
want to I don't want to take that tired brock
upbout over lapper.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Hey when we gonna compete, No rapper beat me or
nothing but on the w in the gym. If that
ain't happening. What you want to what you want to do,
what you want to do? Look here, you have the
rap game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
That's you, that's your era, that's your that's your era,
that's what your era expertise, Jim, I ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
I ain't fing to waste my time dealing with you, man,
because you ain't on this level.

Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
You want to want sprints, you want to want routes,
what you want to do, or you just want to
stay and I gotta dodge that thing. And I still
give you a h You want to stay in the gym.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
I want to do the gym. I don't want to
do nothing that iron. I don't move nothing but iron. Yeah,
yeah we can move, we come out. Hey, check my resume.

Speaker 6 (01:15:41):
It's soscific and thirty minutes you will not you won't
last thirty minutes will mean you want me to follow
you or you want to follow me?

Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
How do you want to do it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
You can't follow me. You can't do nothing. You can't bitch,
you can't squad, you can't. You can't do nothing. You
want to do body weight movements. I don't do body
weight gotcha you.

Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
Better go check my gram. I do sirs, the squats,
I do regular squats, we do deadalus, we do everything.
Are you out your mind?

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
And ninety five pounds? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
What I look like going to because a hundred ninety
five pound man in the dem I was wasting my time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Like this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Every day?

Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
Well from a challenge is a challenge, nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Yeah, it regards to science.

Speaker 7 (01:16:25):
Right, we fight all bullies wealth from That's how I
can You know what nothingniga?

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
You know what?

Speaker 7 (01:16:33):
Break after us?

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
After you as what?

Speaker 7 (01:16:36):
I look?

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
What I look like taking over Greenland? They didn't military?
What you what you may for?

Speaker 7 (01:16:44):
Bring your mouth and your body to all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Let's go to the gym. Let's go to the gym.

Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
You thought I was You thought it was one of
these out of shape rappers. No, I'm in super shape.
I'm not in regulation. I'm in super shaped. Hey, apple
is a shape pair egg.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Shape.

Speaker 7 (01:17:06):
I'm in super shape and you can act.

Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
Everybody understand you see what you do you think I
was on the cover of Man's Health for my looks
because I could busy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
Oh Lord, have mercy when we going in the gym,
because I want I want this work.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
I'm busy.

Speaker 7 (01:17:29):
You're busy. You bring it up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Now you're busy, rich man, you o you on your copaid.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
First of all, you chatt You want Nods, you want Jada,
you want everybody, and then you canry.

Speaker 6 (01:17:39):
To coming out nobody. You said that, you said that,
you start bringing up people. Don't try no slick ship.
I said, I don't care who it is. I will
go up against everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
He's a better rapper than Nods. Jim Jones can defends
himself against NODS comparison. Jim Jones rejects NODS comparison. Check
my record, Jim Jones argument. He's bigger than ods.

Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
You said that, Ah, you sound like your little hot
you over there man, you in your feelings cause me
and everybody else glasses.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
A little bigger glasses, a little crooked. Fine, you can
take him off. You can see and I still can see.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
You can't if with NODS, I put them back on
you with sixteen Since.

Speaker 7 (01:18:30):
Sixteen balls and Nods right now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Sing your favorite Knowledge record right now, the man busy
sing it, sing it.

Speaker 7 (01:18:37):
Sing your favorite Naves record.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
First of all, Uh, once you get to a certain listen,
sing your favorite NODS record.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Jim, I bet you know your favorite jay Z record.

Speaker 7 (01:18:49):
Hey, I bet you can say your favorite what.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Jim like? Okay, you flew hot, you came back down.

Speaker 7 (01:18:56):
Now sing your favorite NODS like it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Bro said you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
Since you say you go up crazy for I can
sing be ringing more records than you right I I
could sing more Dodge records than you right now. So
you you are capping. You are capping. That's what you're doing.
First of all, I'm a bigger NABS fan than you are.
You're cap First of all, First, I don't be singing

(01:19:21):
no rap. I don't be saying no rap. And see
what I'm saying. He don't even know about rape. He
just doing this for the views, to get Jim Jones
on it, to get him hot. I understand.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
But you don't know no hot. You know check the part.

Speaker 6 (01:19:35):
Now, Now you better sing the biggest podcast you have
knowdge record podcast you ever been on?

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
You know what, bigger than this one?

Speaker 7 (01:19:46):
I'm not I'm not a podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
You bigger than this one. You see when you get.

Speaker 7 (01:19:57):
This is what I do getting about you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
I don't get.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Little young white chill out. Don't be on topic. Chill out,
be off topic, dealing with the wrong one. Bro, I
don't care enough about nothing. That's because you got to say, Bro,
you must have taken you off the wet we're here role, Bro,
you might get out. Do nobody want to go to clubs?

Speaker 7 (01:20:26):
They say, nobody want to buy no v I P
tickets to that ship. Nobody is watching it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Go to that ship.

Speaker 6 (01:20:33):
Shape you get in, you do got a good kind
of tremendous You will do your thing. Don't get it twisted, bro,
I don't care nothing about podcast.

Speaker 9 (01:20:44):
We're supposed to be We're supposed to be talking about
music and love and embracing one another and culture house
and let it come out here and disrespect nods and
Jada Now they're gonna happen on here.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Now what were we?

Speaker 7 (01:21:00):
Why do you keep putting jazz this? What's wrong with you?
What's wrong with the type of negative? Get it now
come out they can. It's all like, why are you
trying to punt Dada into this?

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Bro?

Speaker 7 (01:21:12):
Now get it bro, it's all good, It's all love bro.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
All right, tell us about the movie you got coming out,
the next movie?

Speaker 7 (01:21:18):
What you sair?

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Yeah, you got a movie coming out.

Speaker 6 (01:21:21):
After The Church Steps, the Lovely Movie. I got a
bunch of comedians in there, a bunch of influences that
we all know. I'm excited to put that movie out,
covers out later on this summer. It's a uh, it's
an added onto my album. Had a bunch of doorbacktors
in there too, show I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
So are you Are you more proud?

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Are you most proud of the movie you have coming
out or the new music you got coming out or
they equal?

Speaker 6 (01:21:47):
Well, I'm more proud of the business that I've been
doing late. Okay, see, you must see my life revolves
around music. When my life is music is just probably
the smallest fraction of my life, even though it fuse
a lot of the things that comes to my life
because of music. But I'm a great businessman all around
the board, you know what I mean. So you got
to learn a lot of a lot more about me.
And I'm a finlanthropist and one of one of the

(01:22:08):
few people that do give back shirts off my backs
and things like that. All a rhetoric about the wrap
and back and forth of school and shit like that.
But deep down the side, I'm away, I'm away illing
man and what we over here going off about and
things like that. Like, my biggest attribute is my giving back.
You hear, i'mna always do that no matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
I don't want people to get it, get it lessensured,
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:22:30):
I love to give back.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
That's what my whole mission is about.

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
And the more I go viral, the more and more
you explore page, the more opportunities come to me, the
more I could give back. All this comes down to
a dollars where people don't understand this algorithm. It's a
game that I had to learn and understand because I
always uh previously, I probably would crash out so many
things that I see on the internet or so many
ways that people are talking about me. I had to
learn how to reverse it and use these things. It's

(01:22:55):
few for me to keep going and things like that,
and that's just what I've been doing. I got to
a point where I got of that is so I
know how to use it in my favor. And it's
a beautiful thing. It could go against you. It could
go for you. But one thing, if you're a small person,
it's gonna work. It's gonna work in their favorite you
know what I mean. So I used my opportunities to
turn it into a dollar. And anytime that I've seen her,
they're gonna go want to know about me extra stream.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
It's an extra dollar. I don't care about what nobody said.
I name mindset all facets, you know what I mean.
That's what I wanted to ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
I wanted to ask when did when was it always
a part of your like if you ever made it
that you were gonna give back, because like you said,
you do, you do give back to the younger generation.
You do give back to your community. When did that
thought that thought process? How did how did that come about?

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Jim Jones?

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Like, you know what, if I get to a certain
level and I'm able to help and I'm able to
get give back, That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 6 (01:23:46):
You know, we from an older era, a godfare era.
So you know I watched my family open their house
as strangers. Sometimes with things like that, it was always
a given and not to mention when I was coming
outside and watching the houstles doing for the community, the
ones that were successful, the ones that always came bags,
bus rides, sneakers, head cuts and all that. So I
just chose to carry on tradition and me be in
a position of success in my life. I'm only helping

(01:24:08):
me to do a little bit more than what I've
seen coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
That's what's up. That's good, bro. Hey, I'm gonna pull
up in Harlem. Come on, I'm waiting for you.

Speaker 7 (01:24:18):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
I love your record. I love you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
Hey, Hey, Jimmy, Hey, if you give you pull up Harller,
we gotta go to Ricardos.

Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
No, we gotta go to Ricardos. Hey. You know, I
love you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
I love people. I love people that have to go
back and forth with it. People don't take your offense
to because that's what a lot of people look at
this and might take offense to it. But we're black,
they are. We know what we are.

Speaker 7 (01:24:46):
You did like we can never let you know. Electrons
get in between.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
We know what seth stay care and we know what
we're doing, Jig, And I appreciate you for that because
a lot of people would have took everything to a fence,
and you did.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
But we all we are man.

Speaker 6 (01:25:00):
I appreciate this opportunity. Man, do have a great show.
I cannot take that from you. I appreciate you coming
come on, Okay, could bring him to all of us
work on.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Let's look.

Speaker 10 (01:25:12):
Bring he not as strong as he say though, he's
you know, yeah, yeah, hey, hey, Jim will talk though. Man,
I appreciate you coming on. You and I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
We appreciate the time and we'll I'll never you know, hey,
we had a great time going back and forth talking
about nods and Jade and you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
But bro, you stand to test the time.

Speaker 7 (01:25:37):
You do what you do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
You're great at what you do, and I appreciate you
taking time out of your business schedule to night to
come on with OO and I and talk about all things.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
So we I had a great time. I don't know
about but I had a great time. Heyst listen, this
is this was iconic tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
This was iconic anytime you got This is the funny
thing about it is people not gonna understand what Jim.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
You know, we're gonna be a in the morning. You're
not gonna understand that this is what we do. This
is what we do, this is this is how we act.
We get together like people like, yeah, I love you
and this one nothing but a space game without a call.

Speaker 7 (01:26:17):
Our whole attitude of spades all day all all.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Think. If I was in Hallered, we said, Okay, let's
go find the gym right now, we'll find out.

Speaker 6 (01:26:28):
What we what we bout one hundred percent, one hundred percent,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Man, we stand on that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Hey, but Jim, hey, man, best of luck on the album,
best of luck on the movie. Man, Hey, when you
get some free time, stop back, bye bye. I will
I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
All love let oh Joe, that was. That was That
was awesome. That that was That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Now you don't everybody gonna say, man, Jim Jones, the
Shadow Shop was going maybe hey, no, no, they.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
Don't understand it. Any anybody that say that they don't
play spades, they don't play space. But I've it's been
a while since I've been able to get that out.
Oh I've been sitting on this for two months now.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I was just I would just wait,
I would just I would just wait on the right time.

(01:27:22):
Won't you just wait on the right tide? The volume

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