Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Brown SABOTAGING Shedeur + Shilo EJECTED + Rashan Gary joins

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Rashan Gary react to Shedeur Sanders vs Dillon Gabriel, Shilo Sanders getting EJECTED, & Rashan Gary pulls up to talk Packers football and more!

2:13- Shedeur’s Final Preseason Game

10:45 - Kevin Stefanski on why he didn't let Shedeur finish the game 
28:35 - Rashan Gary joins the show
47:55 - Shilo ejected for trying to throw punches

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joins us in a bit. But first, o Joe, But
first your door final final preseason game. He was three
or six fourteen yards forty one yards lost on five sacks.

(02:24):
I know you watched this game as I did. I
want to hear what you have to say.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
First.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Well, first of all, listen, George Sanders didn't play bad?
Chat those that follow me on Twitter?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeappy, that is he did.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
He didn't play well. He didn't play well. He played bad.
Obviously he stunk it up. But let me let me
let me clarify.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Why, officer insight.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Let me give you a little insight, I said, So
he comes in in the third quarter, at I correct,
the third quarter?

Speaker 5 (02:53):
About them?

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Okay, boom, So the players that are playing in the
third quarter, excuse me if I'm excuse me, if I'm wrong.
You can do your homework. Will those players make the
fifty three man roster?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
On?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
A lot of them?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Will?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
A lot of them will not make much.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Man rock exactly. So again, I'm off a quarterback competition.
But if you're gonna put him in a situation that
is not advantageous to him and competing at a high level.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Boom, Let's give him a chance. Let's give him a
chance with the play calling.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
You know you have an offensive line that isn't playing
that well.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
So what do we do? Why not just play the
short game so we can get the ball out of.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
His hands very fast to run a competent goddamn offense.
Purposely running players that are ten, twelve, fifteen yard routes knowing,
damn well, the goddamn offensive line is not going to
be able to hold up is ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
It's clear.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
I played football for a very long time. I played
the NFL at a very high level for a very
very long time. I understand in the situation like that,
when it comes to the threes and four that you're
playing with that aren't going to be that aren't going
to be on the squad and not going to make
the team, give your quarterback a chance. Okay, you know what,
you know they can't hold up that long. Let's play
quick game. Let's play quick game just to get your

(04:12):
door in a goddamn rhythm. But no, you come out
calling regular office and plays that are very long. Damn
their play action, damn near play action. If he was
under center knowing they'd take a while to develop. Knowing good,
goddamn well, the whole line and the people you have
out there right now, we're not gonna be able to.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Hold up outside of that.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
She Door has to be better in understanding that the
office line that you're working with right now is not adequate.
Get the ball out your hands, Get the ball out
of hand. But he's holding the ball for one reason.
He's holding the ball because the goddamn players aren't open.
He's waiting for things to develop, which is why he's
holding the ball and trying to make something happen by
holding on to it, by scrambling, moving, obviously, running out

(04:53):
an area, running out of real estate, and being sacked.
I'm not sure what game you guys are watching again,
I stayed. Sure did play bad, he did, But why
he played bad is clear as day if you understand
the game of football and what he had to work with.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Kevin Sefanski.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Not let your door come back in the game to
finish the two minute drill. Oh, I've never seen that before.
I've never, never, in my life ever have seen anything
like that before.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
What are we doing? What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
No disrespect to Snoop Huntley, Snooping probably not going to
be on the team.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
He's probably not going to be on the team, So
I'm not sure what you were waiting to.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Look Snoop was on the team simply because quarterbacks were injured,
so they brought into extra body. I not allowed the
players that are competing for a job in this instance.
She door Sanders to finish off the two minute drill.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Agree, what are we doing? Who makes that call? He
makes that call?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Why?

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Because I want the last thing people to see. I
want the last people, the last thing for people to
remember is the mistakes in the sacks that happen, and
not give him a chance to redeem himself because I
think probably what would have happened. Okay, we can't have
to do it. Come in here and finish this two
minute drive and go down and get a touchdown. We
don't want that, so we're gonna leave him on the sideline.

(06:19):
So these are bad taste in those mouths. So now
there's nothing that they can say. There's nothing that they
can say because now you've got a small sam size
of him playing with people that are probably not going
to be on the team, and they're by on Twitter
and gonna say former.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Man.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Come on, man, but okay, I can't wait to hear
your peace and chat. For those of you who are
listening to watch it, I'm not making an excuses for him.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
He played bad.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
He played bad, But I can tell you why you
play bad. I mean, if you know the game of
football and not understanding the game of football, understand that
those that are in there with him during that time,
I'm not going to be able to tea.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Don't go ahead, man, I.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Agree with everything you say. He did play bad, and
you and I we come out here and we're on.
We talked four or five nights a week, sometimes six
nights a week. We've gone six straight nights. We've gone
nine straight days before. And what we do we tell
it like it is. TI is like my grandma say, boy,
tell it like it tis is. We tell it like

(07:19):
it is. Shudor did not play well today. He played awful.
Everything that you said is true, Shaudoor. You know this
offensive line is not competent enough to give you a protection.
And I understand it, says, oh cho, I'm in competition.
I saw what Dylan Gabriel did with the guys that's
probably gonna be on the team. I'm trying to match that,

(07:40):
but what happened is is that they didn't give him
the necessary pieces in order to match this. If you
want me to fight, if you want me to win
a war, give me the weapons. You can't expect me
to win a modern war with muskets and cannons. They
used drones. Now they used stuff with precision point accuracy.

(08:02):
So you're expecting me to win a modern game, and
you're giving me old time. That won't work. So Shador
has to do a better job of getting the ball
out of his hands. Oh Joe, he had some time.
It's okay, coach, Hey, that ain't my game. That's Lamar Jackson's.
That's a Josh Allen, that's Jalen Hurts. That's their game,

(08:22):
buying time like that. Shaduur has in a pocket. He
can move side to side, but he doesn't have that ability,
that escapability like these other quarterbacks, like I put, like
the bour mentioned I mentioned.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Why you would let Snoop Huntley take the two minute
unless he's gonna be one of the four quarterbacks that's
gonna be on your roster. You give that to Shador.
I agree with what you said, because you said, look,
we've seen guys play bad beat great in the two
minute drill, and you forget they played bad the entirety
of the game. I don't know what's inside Kevin stefanski head.

(09:03):
Maybe he's like, hey, I wanted to knew you know
we're gonna probably we're gonna end up releasing him, and
you know we wanted him to go. Look Snoop Hunt
has been in the league for five years. He started
several games for the Ravens when Lamar Jackson would hurt.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Hell, he started a pre a postseason game.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
So this notion that you doing him some type of
favor when the man who's been in the league four
or five years, he started six seven games in his career,
he started a postseason game.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
It's just it's just just disingenuous.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
With all that being said, I agree, the offensive line
wasn't very good. And the one thing that a coach
used to always tell me, he say, Son, don't make
a bad play worse you see your offensive line break
down your door. Don't make a bad play worse. Don't
run around and lose five, don't lose ten. He got
sacked five, he got sacked five times, lost forty one yards,

(09:56):
fumbled the ball. Come on, you gotta be better than that.
And I understand when you and competition, O Joe, I'm
trying to compete, So I'm gonna scratch claw and do
whatever I think is necessary. That's gonna help me, put
me in an advantageous situation so I can.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Compete, so I can win. But I don't.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't get what they did, why they did it.
Some things is not for. Some things it is all
for without explanation. Some things you and I can't explain,
even though with the thirty with the thirty plus years
between us of NFL experience and a number.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Of Pro Bowls and All pros, both.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Of us are in our team's respective ring of things.
Some things we just can't answer because we as not in.
Kevin Stefanski says, we don't here it is, O Joe,
here's Kevin Stefanski not letting you do a run the
two mini drill at the end of the Gray at
the end of the game with the Browns.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Let's take a list of what he had to say.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Kevin, it was obviously a bit of a rough second
half fording the brown entire Prince offense, Like, why didn't
you keep doing for you meet you?

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Why'd you deign to tell.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
Yeah, obviously we didn't play great as an offense in
the second half. That's that's never on one person. Uh,
so we can be and we can be better in
a bunch of areas. And just felt like we wanted
to give Snoop a last draft.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Did uh shouldn't have something along with them after the game?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Kind of training to do that. Yeah, he's good.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Walked up to you after taking you just walk down
to the palne and then he walked.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Back up to you on the sidelines before before Snoop
went in and he said something to do to you.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
You shook your head. I mean, is he trained to
get that? He's a competitive kid.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
But the plan was to go with Snoop there, so uh,
but I wouldn't make any more of it than that.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, like, coach, let me get this, let me get
this last one, give me an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Now we're good. We're going to take a.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Look at they know what they're doing. They know what
they're doing. Listen a blad man and see that. A
blad man can see that. Again for those in the chat,
I listen I'm not taking it fur I'm gonna say
it again, and I reiterated, shaduor Sanders played bad based
on the circumstances in the situation he was put in,

(12:12):
and the weapons around him, and the offensive line that
he had to deal with that probably won't be on
the fifty three man roster. That's exactly what you would
look like. You could have put Tom Brady out there
with that offensive line. He would have look the exact
same way. You could put Patrick Mahomes out there for
that offensive line in that third quarter in the second half,

(12:33):
he would have looked the exact same way. Kevin Stefanski saying,
we didn't play well in the second half, Well, yeah,
I mean obviously.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
You didn't call plays well in the second half. This
is what Derek Carr had to say. I need to
understand why why we don't get to see Shaduo run
this too?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Minu Adrill.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Wouldn't you want to see your young quarterback operating this
situation get him more reps for the future. I didn't
see the whole game, so maybe he already showed enough.
Help me understand this, Jerome aiden Rupp, So Kevin Stefanski
give Dylan Gabriel easy short throws with max protection and
then give Shador Bullge eye plays with an old line
that looked like they just ate a gang of little debbies.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
F you Browns trade.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Did you hear the keyword when I one of that?
As soon as I stated that he played well and
the first thing I said, what you just read. He
gave Dylan Gabriel short throws to get himself in rhythm,
to get the ball out of his hands. And then
in the second half, the play calls were much longer,
routes that took time to develop, and they know good

(13:40):
and well that the officers line wouldn't be able to
hold up the only reason a quarterback holds onto the ball.
Sometimes it's covered sacks. Sometimes it's waiting for receivers to
get downfield for route to develop, and they know good
and well, like you know, good and well, it wasn't
gonna work. You have an NFL quarterback, an experienced quarterback

(14:01):
that's pointing.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
It out exactly what I said. I didn't even know.
I didn't even know.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Derek Carr tweeted that I didn't even know. But I'm
just sitting here watching. I'm like, like.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
What are we doing.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
What are we doing as a as a coach, as
a head coach, as a coaching staff. I mean, if
it's a quarterback competition, put the players in advantageous situations.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
And give them a chance to succeed. It's simple.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
It's something like you would do on Sunday when Joe
Flacco goes out there Week one against the Cincinnati Bengals.
They're going to put him in positions to succeed every quarter,
every down. It's just the way the game is played.
You play to win the game. I mean, I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I don't under stand, Mike Heill, Mike Hill, I hope
your Door will eventually end up on a good roster
with a coach who wants and believes in him.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Is so obvious.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
This league and even the rounds in a sense, have
been trying to send a message to him since he
since the draft, and it's downright disgusting. Like I said,
I co sign, I agree with everything that you said.
The play was not adequate enough and your Door has
to get to a point in time, and that's always
been his knock. We said this when he was in college.

(15:19):
He holds onto the ball too long, you're not going
to make every play. The sooner he gets that in
his head, the sooner he comes to that realization, the
better off he's gonna beat. Do not make a bad
play worse, O Jo. If you the worst thing you
could do, O Joe. If I run, if I run
the wrong route is dropped the ball when you throw

(15:40):
it to me, Damn Son, At least you can do
is catch it. You look at up to play. You're someplace.
You're not supposed to beat.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Son.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
If you, if you, if you, if you jump off
side something, just go just go ahead. Maybe they missed it,
But don't make a bad play worse and you block
the wrong guy and then you end up holding what
damn son, your door. Just feed your process up. Yes,
the offensive line wasn't adequate. Yes, the receivers. Give him

(16:13):
the plays that you gave against Carolina. Let him get
the ball out of his hands, let him let let
In a situation like that, you let the You let.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
The offense, you let the receivers help you.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
You put the ball in their hands and says, okay, son,
go get full five yards out of the catch, as
opposed to take the five step drop and trying to
push the ball down the field. That is my my
synopsis of what I saw. Hopefully, now, oh Joe, hopefully
preseasons is over. We can stop having these conversations. Joe

(16:44):
Flacco is the starting quarterback. Now, we need to stop
asking these questions. When are we gonna social door, because
you're not gonna see Joe Flacco something happens to him.
If they keep full quarterbacks, it's gonna be Joe Flacco.
It's gonna probably be I don't know. Hell, the way it.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Looks look like Dylan Gabriel might be too. Now can pick.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
It might be three and you know, you know what?

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Also what also I'm not saying it scares me, but
it worries me if they've already made a decision, if
their mind is already made up as an organization, as
a head coach has them coming out and saying what
he said two weeks ago about the pick not being his,
and Andrew Berry standing by his side and standing by
his pick, and for Andrew Berry to have to witness
what he saw today, someone that is very intelligent, very intelligent,

(17:25):
to be in a position of power that he's in
and to witness what he witness today I'm thinking also,
if the decision has already been made to release your
door or to cut him in any way, shape, form
or fashion. What scares me is is him going to
another team and will team be willing to be able
to deal with someone with the last name Sanders? That

(17:46):
brings a kind of tension to a team that he
does and he's not even the starting quarterback. You understand
what I'm saying, because that I do that brings a
totally different dynamic to a team where it takes away
from whoever the whoever the quarterback is being should do
it now? Coming in and being on that team, you get,

(18:06):
I'm going with it now. It's I do that he
didn't create, but it just comes with the Sanders last name.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
In general, that's a lot of oxygen being taken up
out of the room for a guy that's not playing.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
That's what you said.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
The Browns general manager Andrew Berry told the NFL Network
keeping four quarterbacks not much of a decision. We have
a room that we like and all the guys in there.
We don't really see that as a problem. We more
see it as an opportunity. O Jo, My thing is
why you're keeping four quarterbacks when clearly one of the

(18:41):
quarterbacks you don't actually believe in.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I know, I know Andrew Berry and mister Hassim, I
know they be going at it boy, because it's.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Not like their sentimentality. Sometimes, Ojo, we hold on the
things that have sentimental value towards oh Man, oh Cho.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
I had this thing so long, I just can't let
to go, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
But but when there's no sentimentality to it, there's no
attachment to it. You just drafted the guy. You drafted
a guy in the fifth round. Why are you holding
on to it? If you believe he was that good,
you would have given him a better opportunity to show
you what he can do. From what I could deduce
and from what I read, I've never seen I've never

(19:23):
read anything or saw anything that Shador Sanders took reps
with the ones or the twos, except when Gabriel got
hurt and then he took that they were playing that Friday,
and he took rep.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
To that Wednesday and Thursday. Other than that, excuse me.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Prior to that, there was not a situation where I
read what Mary Kay Cavin was writing and I read
what others had written that I saw that Shador Sanders
had taken rep with the ones and tunes. So if
he's not taking one and two, and you would think
after what he did in the Carolina game, that's normally
what happens.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Chat.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I'm telling you what normally happens. When a guy, if
he's down on the depth chart and he plays good
in a preseason game, they normally come in and that
practice back he's like, I want to see what the
guy can do with the ones and the twos, no
matter the position, be a quarterback, running back, wide receiver,
old line, d line, linebacker, cornerback. I'm telling you that's

(20:18):
normally how it works. You're talking to a guy that
was in a very similar situation, and y'all said, what, Joe,
you always inserted yourself. I'm inserting myself because I'm telling
you I was in a situation like Shader. He was
a fifth rounder. I was a seventh rider. I was
like six or seventh on the depth chart. So I
played good in the preseason game or shoe guess what next?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Thing?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I know, Hey, at the time, I was eighty one sharp,
cool with the backup quarterback. And you call me greasy,
say greasy? They put you with the ones and the
twoes today. So, hey, make sure you're ready. You need
to know anything, ask me. I don't know why, but
seven and Cool always took a liking to me. They

(21:02):
always took a liking to me.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
We come into the game and practice, Ojoe, he was like, greasy,
you know what you got? I said, nah, not really.
He said, you got X welha blah blah blah. Yeah,
I'm telling you like this, he said, greasy. Look, it's
gonna be covered too. Take the whole greasy, it's gonna be.
It's gonna be with single high safety, run to seven.
It's gonna be this. Hook it up, fifteen yards, hook

(21:26):
it up, show me a letters. I'm gonna get you
the ball. Hey, let's go, let's say, let's go make
some money today, He's all. He was always like that
in my ear. So it gave me confidence that damn
this man, he don't Hey, I'm a rookie and he
helping me. He's working with me. Hey, seven with the
exact same way. But once I played good in the

(21:48):
game with him, guess what now? I come back on Monday,
o Joe, I'm went the twos at I didn't get
into the boyd quarter because they want to see what
you can do with the starters. Okay, if he did
this with some backup, let's see if we put it
with the number the one and two's, let's see if
he can do that again. Maybe it was because he's

(22:08):
going against guys that's not going to be there, but
let's see if he can compete against guys that we
know are going to be there on Sunday. So this
is a very similar situation with your door. I would
have thought you would have thought, because we had this conversation,
Oh cho, he gonna get so.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Sure, So we thought based on our experience and what
happens when you play well.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
But listen, excited that Joe Flacco, that would look good.
He looked good. Dyli and Gabel came in. God damn Dylan.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Gabel looked good, very efficient passes coming out, everything sharp,
went down, touchdown.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
And then you know, obviously twelve didn't play good today.
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
And I've said it over and over for those in
the chat. I know we have our shador haters who
do who don't, who don't like him. He didn't play well,
can you hear me? But in most of most of
the littles that aren't hating Touk, they don't.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
They don't.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
They don't watch football. They don't understand football. They don't
want to understand the ends of announcing.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
The intricacies of football. They don't that you understand that
played the game. Understand the new Ones.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Says, we see it, we see it clear as day.
But they just on it.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Oh he played bad, he's asked, he sucked. He's the
fifth rounder. He's not that good. Well, of course, yes,
based on what you saw today. But I'm we're trying
to tell you why it looked that way. But that's
neither here nor there. It is what it is. They
made the decision. They have to lie in the bed
with it, so listen. I'm happy for him.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
This is why I watched the game with no sound.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I don't want someone to contaminate my mind and I
regurgitate what somebody else said. Also the reason why I watch.
Fans are only interested in the end results. I'm trying
to figure out why we got said result. It's not
good enough that they scored a touchdown. I need to
know why. Let me see the formation, let me see

(24:07):
what the guy did. Let me see the defensive coverage.
Was it just a great route? Did he just beat
Sometimes O, Joe, you just beat the guy and that's okay.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
You get paid. He gets paid.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Sometimes Ocho just gonna win because Ocho was just a
better player. Sometimes the defensive back is gonna win. He wins.
Some you win more than he than you lose. Sometimes
who blew the assignment? Was it the safety? Was he
getting greedy paying attention to the tight end on the
over when he should have been deep middle? Was what

(24:42):
did the corner? Why did he did he not? Did
he not shovel the receiver down inside and sink? Why
was he still so far? Why was he so close
up when there's nothing to threaten the flat. I'm analyzing
all of that. It's just not good enough for me
to know that they scored. I'm trying to see why
they scored. And then I'm gonna tell you, based on

(25:04):
my experience, having played the game, having studied the game,
this is what I think happened. So oo, and I
what we're trying to do. We're not making excuses for Shador.
She door has to do a better job of not
making a bad situation worse.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Hey, I was so confused the night too on. Let
me let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
I really, I really do this. And I watched the
game for a long time, so I thought, maybe I'm tripping.
Maybe I'm tripping based on what I'm seeing, and maybe
I'm not seeing it correctly.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Hell, I picked up the phone. I called TJ. I
call who I call?

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Whosh uh, And I'm like, who'sh am I tripping? Or
did I see what I thought I just saw? When
twelve winning the game? He's like, yeah, yeah, you could
tell that was a bunch your you know what you
know TJ.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
TJ don't care. He just he just go off.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
He went off off the rock on the phone. Yeah,
why would you put him in that situation? I said, Okay,
I just want if I heard it from you, and
I know how you and you know how t TJ.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
He gonna tell it like it is. You know, he
don't care.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Okay, I just want to make sure I want trip.
I just want to make sure I want from another
mouth the actually played the goddamn game, the receiver position
that also knows the game extremely well all the intimacies
that come with it.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Okay, Boom, I know I won't trip.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, And the thing that I hate is that you
keep him buried. Now, hey, o Jo, maybe a you
keep him and he gives reps because when you're in
the practice squad, now you're gonna get reps because you're
gonna get reps because you practicing the other guy stuff.

(26:43):
Because so because because when they hold the card up,
oh Joe, you you, I mean you you read because
you want to they hold the card up. And so
they got the plays drawn up and they circle where
they want the ball to go.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
So they're telling me, hey, this is what this is
our fox to X and Y hook.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
This is our twenty five dagger, this is our double
square out, this is our comeback. This is that they're
telling us what this play is in our terminology, so
there's no mistaken.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Sometimes the decordinators say, come in here. He put a
little extra sauce on it because this receiver has like
he got he got some real good ad. He got
some shake on him. Now he ain't just move down there, breakdown, No, no, no,
he studied a he has he at the line and
then he goes stumble to die. So give us some
of that. A quarterback run around a little bit. We

(27:36):
played Junior sayout off at the corderator. Coob and Mike
would tell burn Keith Burns was normal a junior say out.
He said, go wherever you want to go. If it's
if you're supposed to be in the A gap, go
go in the sea gap.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Do whatever you ay.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
You got no responsibility if you suppose to blitz dropping
past coverage, because that's exactly what Junior would had no
idea what the hell he was gonna do, and so
that's how he That's how he played it. I'm like, bro,
what hey, you were supposed to blitz? He said, no,
I don't want to leave.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
That was so funny.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
What's his name?

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Told me some stories about about Junior man, Hey, yeah,
hey buddy, buddy.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
That's that's that's his word. That's what hey buddy.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Hey buddy.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Everybody was buddy. I don't think he ever called anybody
the name. Every coaches with buddy.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
The offense.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
If you played office, you buddy. If you play defense,
you with buddy, Hey buddy.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
But I think.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
What's the coach of Alabama? His names of my mind
s af this time. If I'm not mistaken, Uh, that's
when I think that's when God.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Wise name Ronnie Brown, all those guys, right.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
And Shannon Crowder was telling me, mister, they came out
for practice. They came out for practice. And Genie's say,
I didn't have on his cleats. He had on regular shoes.
And Nick daven master totally master, total him. Ay, you
got your regular shoes on. You know you're not gonna
you're not gonna go change. They say, nah, buddy, I'm

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a practice like this today.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
No, And it was so funny that he told the story. Man,
Oh my goodness, but he was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
All right, joining us on the show.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Now, we'll recommend we'll welcome in pro bowler last year.
He's a pro bowler. He's number eighty on this year's
NFL Top one hundred. You were fifty last year, Rashaan,
despite making the Pro Bowl last year, they have you
down thirty spots. I want to know what is Rashaan
Gary gonna do to get back into that top fifty,
to get back into that top thirty, maybe even get

(29:48):
up into the top twenty.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Y'all going to see in two weeks. You know, we
got a great home over there. Let's go yeah, you know,
got great home but there you know against the Lions NFC. Uh,
you know, rivalry. So it's a nice way to start
the seeason. Uh, I just want my work to show.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yeah, So a quick question for you.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Camp is over now, obviously, I'm sure you guys have
a week to work with some things packers versus packers
before you get into a.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Game planning scheme for week one? How was camp for you?
How's a body holding up? How do you feel? Are
you going into camp healthy?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (30:26):
No, this is uh, yeah, it's crazy because I was
just talking you know, my teammate, anybody. I'm like, you know,
going into year seven. It's one of the you know,
the healthiest camps that I have. So you know, I'm
feeling good, you know, from OTA's all the way through now,
I've been putting a great body at working and I
was just trying to, you know, put it on display.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
So, yes, sir, you guys don't play a game for
another two weeks. If coach, if coach Leafloor are going
to give you guys some times some time off. Are
you back at on Monday or do do you get Sunday?
You get Monday? You guys are back in there Tuesday.
Are you going to get a little time off before
you have to hit it and start getting ready for
the Lions?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
And do we h?

Speaker 7 (31:04):
You know, we got a couple of practices coming up
next week, but you know we got the weekend off
and then back to work on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Damn y'all back to work on Sunday already, dab I figured,
I figured, coach on the floor.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Give y'all a couple of days off, y'all.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
You're like, well, damn, code we've been at We had
a good uh, a good camp. Uh the Packers your defense,
I mean you mentioned Kenny Clark. I'm assuming you're talking
about Kenny Clark. Now, you lost your cornerback. You're all
pro cornerback, You trade, you released him, and he ends
up going to Baltimore. How do you, guys, because you
guys have shown spots where you guys are dominant.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I'm talking about dominant.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
You attack the quarterback and you stopped the run, You
turn the team over, you give you your offense short fields.
How do you stay consistent in doing that?

Speaker 7 (31:50):
Rest and just holding our standard? Everybody got to they
one eleven and through out OTAs especially you know, being
year two and you know coach has system. It's been
crazy why snave by flying to the ball, tack the
ball and actually being on one accord, you know, talking
about first all the way beforeth down get back on
track downs were all on the same page, all speaking
the same language.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
And you know, it's been good seeing.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
It for you guys, especially the Packers. Opening up with
a game like this against the Lions is a good
test for you guys defensively obviously, whether it be on
the ground, whether it be in the air, because you
understand the dynamic and how special the Lions offense is
even with Ben Johnson leave and they still have all
those weapons, you know, Jamier, Gibbs and Montgomery, you know,

(32:33):
the receivers on the outside tight end your thought process
going into it early so far, what is it that
you think you guys need to do to win that
game come week one? From a defensive standpoint, I already
know what you guys can do on offense. Defensively, can
you be able to hold them? I'm not sure what
where the Lions finished when it comes to scoring, but

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you know they can put up points.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
Yeah, absolutely, Just like I was saying, We've been doing
a great job through and campus, being on the same page,
speaking the same language, understanding what teams want to do
to us, especially our offense. In these last couple of
joint practices. Really be on the same page how these
offensive teams want to attack us, understand how weak points
and I'm saying when on eleven, know that we understand
how to protect it. So it's just basically being on

(33:17):
the same page. And when it comes to you know,
that game right at three o'clock, we got to be
locked and focusing on one of the court.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
How we've been and just having fun.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Okay, one more question, one more question. I know your
team goals.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
You got team goals obviously from a defensive perspective, team
goals offensive and decently obviously the main goal you want
to be in San Francisco at the at the end
of the season, first week of February. But personal goals,
your personal goals yourself that you will want to achieve
with us, you know, whatever it may be.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
Yeah, I can just show you my you know shit,
a little into my mindset, man, Just just trying to
be dumping it. Man, I've been training in the hardest
offseason releases, Shawn takeover. Like I said, one through fourth downs, man,
that's what I'm play for. And really just Sean show
your body. You know how dominant I can be.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Rashan, you're the vet.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
There's no more Aaron Rodgers, there is no more j'ahuie. Alexander,
you're one of the old guards now. So now, how
has your leaders leadership style change, because guess what, you're
one of the senior voices.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, you know, it's been great. Man.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
It's something that you know, you always pray for or
asks for, and you know it's crazy. You know, we
got rookies coming in talking about I used to watch
it be for my high school games. I'm like, man, yeah,
so you know, it's kind of weird. But I've been
having I've been having fun in Green Baby, doing a
great job, especially from when I came in with the
guys they had ahead of me, being able to keep

(34:44):
it real with me, especially a big guy to me
with Mercedes Lewis, so you know, talking to him how
to take care of my body, things like that. So
when you know, young guys come up to me asking
me how to film study, what to look for, things
like that, I'm able just to keep it really because I.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Had a good O G.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
But man, it's just been fun man really lead by
you know, example, and if I need to speak, I
get there. But then also I started learning that, you know,
you can't talk to everybody the same way. You know,
you got to understand you know, everybody background, who you did,
you know everybody background, you know, while everybody's in there.
And I feel like, you know, this off season, especially
through Oca's camp, you know, I've been able to understand people.
Why so when the dude get time, you know, two

(35:20):
minutes drive the fourth quarter, when we got locked in,
you know I could I can hit those points?

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Yeah, Hey what what what? What's what's it like there
in Green Bay? Is there anything to do? Is is
it fun?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (35:33):
You know it's chill com Yeah, play football man and
focus man man, chill come green Bay. You know it's
slept on, but you know it's a great community and
as well love.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, I mean you got Milwaukee, you got Chicago.
There's a couple that's ninety minutes away. You got Milwaukee's
ninety minutes away. So but it's easy to play. My
brother played there for seven years. Rashaan and then you know,
going to visit him. You can see why they have success.
In the sixties, ain't nothing else to do. There was

(36:03):
less to do then than there is now. But you
can understand why the Packers have success. There's not a
whole lot to get into. There's not a whole lot
of trouble. There's not a look if you Apple turns
down the way, but that's a college town. Like I
mentioned Milwaukee, but hell, Milwaukee closed down at ten thirty.
You ain't really trying to drive way to Chicago.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
You ain't really try to drive way. Does Chicago to
have a good type?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Ay when you're there for those months when you come
back for training camp and you're there, Hey, bro, let's
make the best of this situation. We can get tunnel visions,
we can lock in. Let's try to go compete and
win a super.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
That's the mindset and that's how it's always been being
a Green Bay Packer.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Let me ask you this, if they're a play that
you replay, if there are almost sacked, if there's almost
a ball that was on the ground that you damn
if I could have just gotten this one, it would
have helped. If they're a play that you replay in
your mind since you've been in Green Bay that you
was like, man, if i'd have made that play, that
have been a difference in the game.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
To be honest with you now, if the top of
my head. But you know, I play too hard to
give it up man. Like I said, I'm going on
year seven, and like a lot of guys I talked to,
you know, you can't take it for granted. And right
now I'm in some crucial years where I feel like,
you know, I could take off and started sending in
the right way.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
It's flying by. Huh Do you realize you're in your
seven already? It went by fast, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, it's going by fast. It's going by fast.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
Like I said, I'm trying to stay in the moment
and then you know, enjoy the ride.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Oh yeah, it is because you look up and you're
going to be in your teen because you know, you're like, man,
let me get five, and you say, well, let me
get to ten, and then once you get to ten,
you're like, let me take it a year at a time.
But before you know it, I mean I woke up
one morning like, damn, I mean your teen and next day,
you know, hey, calling Mike said, Hey, this is it
for me, bro I'm done. It goes, it goes fast.

(37:49):
And that's why I tell guys, enjoy it. Make sure
you're training, you're eating, your prep, everything, because you don't
want to have not one ioda of regrets. Because regret
when you leave this game, you can't go back, and
so to have that moment of regret for the rest
of your life, it'll eat at you. So when you done, Rashan,

(38:11):
when you say, hey green Bay, Hey Lafloor or a
Gouda can so whomever you got a call to say
that I'm done. Hopefully you finish your career in Green Bay,
you're like you look back, You're like, man, I gave
it everything I had, the way I trained, the way
I slept, the way I practiced, the way I met
do everything. I walk away my head, help my head
hell high, knowing I couldn't have got anything else out

(38:34):
of the talent that God blessed me with.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Hey it's a good one right here too. But it's
a good one.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
So I think about obviously during my playing days and
some of the players that I looked up to at
at the same position obviously while we're still playing, I
would I would watch their film and study some of
the things that they that they did and still, you know,
steal some of their moves no matter whatether you just
to be able to add to my game to improve
year to year. Who are some players that played the
exact same position you do that you look up to

(39:00):
and watch their film to see what they do where.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
You can add to your toolbox as well.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Yeah with me, it's funny, but I like going throwback.
So you know, I like throwing on Julis Peppers, Yeah,
Julius Peppers, Yeah, Julius Peppers. I love Tom Ally uh
ways and Kansas City Chiefs, Yeah, justin Houston. You know
those are guys I feel like I read similar tours
and then nowadays, you know, you're throwing you know, Miles Garrett,

(39:29):
you get you, you know, been in the edge of you.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Know, t J. Watt.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
But I ain't gonna lie this year, speed the power
get you know. Uh, you know, this year, I've been
doing a lot of watching myself.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Man.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Yeah, I like, I like, yeah, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Let me ask you this because you and I was
talking and how we approach the game of football. How
we approach as a wide receiver when you go into
a game, obviously you try to get to the quarterback,
but everything leads to something else. I'm showing in one
th but that's not really what I want to do.
I'm giving him this, but I really want to do that,

(40:06):
But I'm saving it for a rainy day because i
know it's gonna come a third down in this board
quarter And I know, hey, I've been running up the
field the whole game, and I know, hey, hey, I
know I've been stabbing you the whole game. Hey, I've
been posted and wiping you away the whole game. And
I know you, I know you finished sit on that
because that's what I've given you. I've given you no
reason to prepare for anything else. Is that how you

(40:29):
approach the rush game?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Look, I'm doing what I can, but I know I
got to have this in my back pocket when I
absolutely got to get this quarterback on the ground.

Speaker 7 (40:37):
Yeah, own, shoot, you know, think about pass rushers and
every pass rusher I talked to, man, you you know
all the great ones. You really got about four moves
in the toolbox and uh, at the end of the day,
it's really by reacting to what the you know, the
office in Lineman wants you to do. But once you
get off the ball, the seratain way and you you know, God,
I'm thinking, oh, he about to stave on about the
stab on geh, I stab you the first four or five,

(40:58):
maybe six rushers, but you know that third, you know,
crucial down you know, thirty and ten, thirty and eight,
we got you off the field. I'm out, just sit
you down at the edge. But yeah, it's a game.
It's a game within delonji'all both know that.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
It absolutely it's a beautiful thing to watch the guys
because you know, I'm a little I'm a lot older
than you are, probably the age of your dad.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
But the past rushers.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
To watch DT how he got up the edge and
bent the edge. He reminds me of von Miller. And
then I see Reggie White, how he just had pure power.
He just hey, he's just getting on the edge and
he gonna hump you. You already know what's coming. You
can sit down as much as you want to. You
three thirty and try to sit on it. You gonna
get humped. He gonna throw a three hundred and thirty

(41:44):
pound man like he's a sack of potatoes. And then
you get a guy like a Bruce Smith that's two
sixty five, two seventy all out like a Miles Garrett
playing on a five technique, and you're like, bro, how
do this man bend to edge like that? How could
he lean? He's this high off the ground reach And
I'm like, how how did he do that? I'm watching you.

(42:07):
You you got a lot of power. I see the
way I see the way you're built from wais down
and the way you can you can post a guy.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Wax on, wax him off. You can also bend the edge.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
As you mentioned, you can convert speed the power because
you can't.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
It's all about getting off the ball.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Once I get off the ball, you at my mercy, bro,
as long as I'm not lazy off the ball.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
Barbecue, it's gonna be a good night.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
You're absolutely right. So let me ask you a question.
A lot of guys will listen to the TV version,
they'll get the TV version, and they'll try to pick
up the quarterbacks Cadence how Blue seventeen Blue seventeen.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Ready to say?

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Do you do things like that? Try to pick up
the audio copy, try to pick up the colt.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Shoot.

Speaker 7 (43:06):
I'm in the you know, the quarterback quarterback head. I'm
also into I'm heavy on the office and line talk.
The office and line is gonna tell you everything. Let
you know if it's run.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
You know, how they communicate, how you're fitting it in eyes,
body language. Yeah, I'm mental it all.

Speaker 7 (43:22):
But especially once I heard the office and line and uh,
you know talking, they kind of be able to you know,
for my reason everything, I'm kind of able to pick
it up and play faster.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Especially when you're at home, because it's hard for them
to hear. So they've got to communicate. And as much
as he's trying to look at you, he gotta look.
But now they kind of hold hands a little bit.
But he still got to kind of look inside and hey,
all you all you need is all you need is
a half a step. That's all you need. It ain't no,
ain't no. Look these guys are good. You ain't just

(43:53):
gonna just beat these guys. But that half of step
that you get, that you get them at edge, and
once you get them shoulders heay, once he turned.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Alien, Bro, you're.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Not finna ride me up the field, I'm finna get
skinny and I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Get narrow, get the quarterback on the ground.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
So and before the twenty nineteen draft, you funded your
own sports agency, the Rashaun Gary Sports. What inspired you
to do something like this?

Speaker 7 (44:22):
Going to Michigan, being able to sit in the you know,
our Ross Business School had a couple of classes. I
was blessed and fortunate to have a couple of classes
in there, and just you know, actually talk about no
business models, marketing. Actually got to you know, talk about
life after football, and it's something that you know, I
really never thought about it, and I'm like, you know,
we could be real. No, football is the biggest thing.

(44:44):
This is not gonna stop. It's only gonna get bigger
and bigger and keep growing and growing. So I'm like,
you know, when I get older, and then when I
do hang my cleets up, you know, how can I
you know, stay around you know the game, you know,
get the game the young guys, especially in positions where
you know, I wish I would have had growing up.
And then also the league of legacy you know for
my kids kids and hopefully they kids.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
So he's just trying to build it become a powerhouse
like that.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
That's dope, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
That's it, mart Rashon. You do realize that division you in.
You got the Packers, they won fourteen games last year.
You got the Lions, they won fifteen games last year.
You got the Bears, and many believe they're much improved
with the addition as Ben Johnson as their head coach. Coach,
they've added pieces on the offensive line to protect Caleb Williams.

(45:31):
Defense seemed to be flying around on the new DC
Dennis Allen and yourself.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
The Packers. You guys made the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Jordan Love had the surgery on his left hand, but hey,
everybody say he's good to go. What do the Packers
need to do to win this division? Get a home
game and say, let whatever happens happen after that.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
We got to go.

Speaker 7 (45:52):
Out there and we just got to play Packers ball.
Like I said, we've been going it from Oja through camp.
I'm talking about even finishing the pre game, I mean
preseason on a high note. You know, we've got to
keep everything flown, like I said, especially on defense. We've
been speaking the same way I've been seeing the offense,
you know, do their thing.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Connecting even especial teams.

Speaker 7 (46:11):
You know, the guys flying down understand that's a very
crucial part and an important part of the game. So
all we gotta do is be consistent, and I do
mindset to go. Want to know every week?

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Yeah, I would let me ask you this at practice.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Do you if you see something from like your offensive line, like, bro,
that's a tail. I can tell when you run the ball,
I tell when you're passing the ball. I can tell
how you trying to you trying to set me up.
Do you guys communicate like that? Do they tell you, Hey, Richard, bro,
I a you you gave this move away? Do you
guys communicate like that with one another?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (46:46):
That's iron sharp and iron especially when I'm trying to
work on something I'm big on that I'm talking about
both my tackles come to me like with bother. So
of course I'm gonna tell them everything I don't like
to do so I can work on that in practice
and vice versa. You know me working on sometain moves, Okay,
you telegraph that, man, if you would have sold it
up an extra set you feel me or oh you
got me on that move.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I'm like all right, you know, keep working things like that.

Speaker 7 (47:07):
But yeah, it's iron sharp and iron practice and me
before the information for season. That's not gonna better the team.
So I'd rather make it hard on me now. So
for the guys that do give it a win season,
I can play a little bit faster.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Oh man, that's great man, Thank you Sean for joining us. Man,
stay healthy, Beth de Luck, Hey, this year you was
what holo on, Let me find where you were. You
were a number. You were number eighty. Man, you drop fifty,
You down thirty spots. So when we come back and
have this conversation next week next year, you got to
be in the top thirty. You got to be thirty
a buve we thirty of.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
A look gonna be great talking see.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Then, Thank you, bro, Beth de Luck, stay healthy, good
luck to the package this season and we're gonna talk
to you. Thank you, honest, appreciate you, Bro. That will
go with Rashard Gary, Ladies and gentlemen. Oh Joe Shot
Sanders was ejected after throwing the punch at Bill's tight end.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Zach Davidson. Should he have been ejected?

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, you can't do that. You got to
be able to control yourself, especially in that moment.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
I know the tight end. You know they was locked
up a little bit. He was probably trying to rough
hide him a little bit.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
But you have to be able to control yourself.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
You got to be able to control your emotions there,
especially in moments like that, especially in the game, especially
in the game, so you know you have no choice
if you throw a punch, if anything, if if your
arm extends and it touches the other individual, you're going
out the game every time.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Oh, Joe, he in the open field. That's not like
an offensive defensive linemano. You in the bow and can't
nobody to see you tried to hit the.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Guy right the bat judge in the side, Joe, that's
where you studied, right.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Right there, right there. You know.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Sometimes you got players that are provoke you. Sometimes, Yeah,
they're going to see the person that's last, Nancy, who initiated,
but they.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
Gonna always see the person who swings last. Gotta be
able to.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I ain't tried, I ain't trying to get you back
in front of the ref. I'm gonna try to get
you back when you ain't thinking about it, because see
if I do something then you brace it. You all
you're gonna do is turn to the reft. You see relp,
he did the age storry. Hey, reef, you see what
Andy four did? You see what he did? Don't worry
about it. I'm gonna get your black It's gonna look
like a place. I'm gonna get your half back.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Oh, I'm gonna get your teammates.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Somebody. Somebody gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Somebody gonna get got They got your color uniform on.
He ain't had nothing to do with it, but that's
your teammate. Hey, y'all know how it is that work. Hey,
I'm gonna get you with somebody that's related to you. Yeah,
but I agree with you. Oh, Joe Shanlo knows better.

(49:53):
Sharlo knows he can't do a situation like that. Bro,
you can't hurt that he got on. He got on
the helmet. So let's just say for take about you
hit it, Okay, you hit him in the head. Oh
what happened? You break your hand? You gonna get a
penalty in this situation.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
You got tossed.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Now, even if you do rate the wrong, you do
know when you get thrown out a game, won't you
you know that's like twenty thirty thousand dollars. So here,
let's just say, for the sake of argument, Oh yeah, yeah,
how much is an ejection in the football game?

Speaker 3 (50:23):
It like twenty five thirty thousands?

Speaker 5 (50:25):
Not that much?

Speaker 4 (50:27):
The hell you say, my goddamn celebrations with twenty five
thirty thousand.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I know they ain't, but you stayed in the game.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Your celebration they called you to get tossed out of
a game?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, I'm kidd how much is an injection.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Especially your first time offense too? They gonna say they're
gonna take all that into account.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Actually, like thirty two thousands, they go.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
They gonna let they gonna let him appeel that. They
gonna let him peel that. Who have offenced to They're
gonna be like.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Who you appeal to? You? So let me ask you
a question.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Still Mert Hanks, No, I think I think it's Brooks,
Derek Brooks, James Thrash and John running.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
So Brooks and Thrash and then running James Thrash.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Oh yeah, say I'm James Thrash. What hey wait, Derek
Brooks about.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
He threw a punch? Yeah, forty for five year Old Show.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Hey, hold on, you said Derek Brooks, what's about double nickel? Yeah, okay,
I didn't know that. Man, they gonna take him. They're
gonna take him.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I mean brooksy thrashed. They're very friendly, but some things, yeah,
I know, uh yeah, physical contact with him officials forty thousand.
A second offense is eighty one thousand verbal or non
physical offense with against official.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
So if you curse in or something, that's thirty two thousand,
next one fighting forty thousand.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
For the first defense forty thousand, six hundred and eighty
six dollars, A second offense is eighty one thousand.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Woo.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
So unsports them like conduct, and then I don't know,
you know what, maybe they label label it unsports.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Them like conduct.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
Okay, babec, But what what do they call it during
the game?

Speaker 3 (52:38):
What did they say during the game?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Because that if you throw a ball into the stands,
that's eighty one hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Oh joe, what you play.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
In the stand still?

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I know I ain't throw one chin strap show the
pass thive knee pass, that's fifty seven, that's fifty eight
hundred dollars. Unapproved visor or tent lack of brand marks,
fifty seven hundred personal messages about eleven five.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Damn gang signs. Ooh, gang side.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Don't do that, don't do that. That's all I got
for yo, Joe.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
Hey, Hey, that's that's a gang sign too.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Hey, that's all I got. That's all I got for you.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
But I just say, the look, the emotions got the
best of him. You know, you're fighting for a roster spot.
I don't know what, Like I said, I don't know
what happened. I just you know, saw the steal shots
of it, like so, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
If he did this or he did and blocking him
all the way down the field, it's like, yeah, he
you know, obviously tight end came off, got up on
the safety and they just he trying to drive him back,
driving back, and.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I'm assuming he tried to dump it. He tried, Yeah,
he tried.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
To do that's all a little rough house.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
And uh we find out what they what they call
it in the game. And you know, you just gotta
be smart a situation like that, because you are fighting
for a position. You don't want to do anything that
cost your position. But you know, hey, I trust me
sometime with emotions high. Logic is low. We've all done

(54:24):
things that like we look back at it like, but man,
why the hell I do that?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Why?

Speaker 1 (54:31):
And your door probably like as he's walking to the tunnel, like,
everybody get your door, excuse me, shallow. Everybody's gonna get God.
If you play long enough, somebody gonna get you with
a block. Somebody gonna gonna pancake you, Somebody gonna route
your ass up. You gonna get God. It's like being

(54:55):
in the NBA. You gonna get dunk on. You played
long enough, you'll get dunked on. I don't care. Excuse me,
I don't care who you are. You going to get got.
Offensive line is gonna get beat, he gonna get run over.
Defensive line is gonna get blocked, he gonna get pancake.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Quarterback gonna get hit.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
All that's going to happen because it's the game of football.
And those guys are really good that you're going against.
They're really good. I know you're really good also, but
they're really good. And somebody that's really good can make
somebody else that's really good look bad. I don't think
people realize. People just think that, oh, he's such and

(55:34):
such he's supposed to win all the time. No, hell
you not, no even bad Bonds. He didn't strike out
off them, but he did strike out. Tony Gwyn didn't
strike out off him, but he did strike out. He
did get nobody hit five hundred, hit six seven hundred,
so obviously, but you know, I ain't really never got

(55:55):
that mad on you, not the game. I mean, somebody,
have somebody done some dirty stuff? Yeah, and I got
damned back.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
I mean, I'm trying to think whatever. The only time
I was about the fire when I was gonna beat
raised ass. That's it.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
You heard me.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
You're gonna be the mouth of the mouth and the
bat Ray all up and down M and T Bank Stadium.
He lucky aed Re grabbed me, Broy. I was feeling
good that day too. I was feeling good. I was
feeling good.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
He ain't even know Ray ain't even know like he
hit me.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Right, okay, okay, go ahead, what you say?

Speaker 5 (56:43):
He hit me?

Speaker 4 (56:44):
I went for the slant. It was too high, I mean,
and listen, my helmet went flying. So once I got
my helmet, Once I got my helmet, and I was
getting ready to walk up on him, and he knew
I was gonna hit him in the stomach.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
So you know, we hit somebody in the stomach. The
first thing they do it, they go they've been down.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Did you catch up with uppercut?

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (57:07):
And so man, listen, by man, boy, I'll tell you
what I would have that fifty two would have been
twenty five when I would double rade that day.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Boy, I don't think you had. I don't think you
had all your bearings. I mean I think you were.
I think he was about to be the headless foot
the headland football player, because I thought your head within
that hell it was it.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
Was it was you couldn't get his work.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Hey, hey, that's that's one of that's one of the
things I missed though. Like I know, I play around
a lot. I make a lot of jokes. I'm always
laughing and stuff. Being able to compete not anybody, I'm
about being able to compete against those stealer teams with
Ike Taylor and James Harrison and Larry Footen and Joey

(57:52):
Porter and oh man.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Yeah, I thought you was gonna say you miss uh
you miss getting Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
I don't mind that either. Listen.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
You know, I'm I was like I was like gummay yunk.
I ain't caring about that getting hit.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
You gotta you gotta.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
I got up from every single hit except one eleven years.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
One hit I didn't get up.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
That was it. Will you pop up? Fans, they know
they got.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
You, now you know, I pop up fast talking trash
though every time there was some good days.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Man, I missed playing them Ravens Man the defenses.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Man, oh, that was such a joy, such a joy
because you had no you had no choice but to
show up on.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
There's no weakness. There was no weakness nowhere, nowhere.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Division games always too.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
Second level was good, secondary was good, and here go
my my crazy I'm talking. I'm talking trash all week
long to take all the pressure off of everybody else
on our team. So all the pressure was on me. Now,
all y'all got to do is just go out there
and just do your job. Nah, because they cheap gotting everybody.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Man, why did you? Man? Can tell Sharp shut up? Okay?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Man, Sharp, leave along. You ain't gonna block him? Well,
you need to block better.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Yeah. I enjoyed it that way, man. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Man, I know Look, you know what I bet you?

Speaker 1 (59:18):
I bet your time called him from the I bet
your time called shallow in the locker room.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Of course, man, what did you?

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Man? What is you doing?

Speaker 5 (59:26):
What?

Speaker 3 (59:27):
That's exactly?

Speaker 2 (59:27):
What?

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
That?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
What you doing?

Speaker 5 (59:31):
Really?

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (59:32):
You think? So let me ask you a question. You
hit him, You think you heard him. You think there
was a greater chance you hurt your own self or
you hurt him. You could hurt him. You hurt your
own self, your own team, or you hurt him or
his team, because that's how that's how you look. There's
a I don't know if he like he ain't really
no time, ain't really no yeller. He's more of a

(59:54):
talker and a stern and a and a stern way
to get his porn costs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
I'm like, bro, what what? What come? What are you doing? Really?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
You thought that was your that was your answer? The man,
the man, the man that the man that drove you
like a winter bago. So now you mad because you
couldn't get him up off you. You take a swipe
at it. Oh man, Hey, sharlow, you gonna get the

(01:00:27):
weight room. Bro, Them guys, them guys, bigg them tight ends. Hey,
you know I was just strong, but I wasn't you
know I was two twenty eight. Them guys now them
tight as now they six four six five two fifty
two sixty. Hey, you got to drop an anger on him, shallow,
get the fuck me? The hell you thinking this?

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
And Prime got to be careful because Sharlotte was hittinghim
back with You were the same one out there fight
with Andre Rising. So are you sitting there telling me
about everybody you was out there?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I remember, bet I remember that, like they were like
he tried to show, he tried to show out from
in my house you can't come to my hand. I
think Dre forgot that time was left handed. He was, yeah, yeah,
he was. He was looking for the right and tied
would kill it with the left. I think I think

(01:01:22):
that's what happened. See that wou get your own show
because you think most of the time and I think
most people are right handed. What's the percentage of right
handed people? If it ain't no fifty fifty like a
coin flip, it's got to be like seventy thirty righted
and left it And so you automatically soon somebody right handed,
and so you let you you looking for that right

(01:01:43):
and he just got the upside your head.

Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
With left got got the boy was going and see
the thing was time was smart see time and when
when pleasuring me, Time ain't want to break.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
His hand open open ty was open handed it. But
I think I think Shia will learned. I mean, hey,
you're like, hey, if hopefully he makes the squad and
he can get to because this thing, if you on
the practice squad, don't Joe, you ain't making forty fives
of the week, They're gonna tell your first three weeks

(01:02:16):
going to the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
You're gonna be alright, You're gonna be all right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Like and that's what's amazing. That's what the thing is
is that

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Uh those fines man, they a like Damn I could
have used that forty thous two