Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best hoops stories of the week, including Luka saying the Lakers have the team to make a title run, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant & the Suns missing the playoffs, Anthony Edwards being crowned NBA three-point leader for the season, & much more!
04:45 - Anthony Edwards answered the challenge
13:30 - Luka says Lakers have the team to make a title run
21:00 - Luka trade compared to Babe Ruth trade
29:00 - Devin Booker, Kevin Durant & Suns miss playoffs
45:00 - Unc and Ocho answer your NBA questions
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Before the Jazz game against the Wolds, Malik bez A
tweeted at you need seven threes to beat me at
became the youngest player to league the league in three
points made.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
He got it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
He say you need that, asaid, okay, say no more
fan and he went, he went and got all self yep,
beat him boy one.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It's so funny when you think about it, when you
think about hitting seven threes, it sounds so easy until
you in destructuring environment, actually playing a game, and don't
understand how difficult it is.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Uh got nice.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
He was seven of eighteen, three fifteen of thirty. He
won from the field forty minutes. He was plus twenty.
Rudy Gobert had nineteen and eighteen rebounds. Jude Ramdall had
ten points, ten rebounds, five assists. They got great production
off the bench from nas Reid game eleven points, Dante
(04:17):
di Vintenzio gave him sixteen points, and the kill Alexander
gave him nine points to twenty five Thirsty, so they
got thirty six bench points. The Jazz uugh Oscar Tashibi
played well, gave him break points off the bench. I
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don't know what the Jazz is really gonna do. But
the Timberwolves, that's the Lakers next to Ponting. They got
a guy that can protect the rim, Rudy Gobert. But
the thing is, you ain't got no pig got it
when you he's not a guy you run plays for.
You just got to keep him up the glass, Jackson, Hayes.
Just keep him out of the glass. Don't go no
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on face, don't don't do anything that. Just keep him
up the glass. The problem of is that in the
fourth quarter he becomes a liability because everybody's gonna put
him in the pick and roll and they're gonna make
him guard. If you go back and watch the game
last year, what did Luca do? Put him in the
pick and roll? Come on? And Mark Jackson used to say,
shall I have this dance? Yes you may, and uh
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so that's what you got to do to the big
guys that punish him. He's out there in the back,
he's out thereat because look as a defensive player, and
that's he's one what four defensive player of the years
and now ash Yes, he's really he's really a help defender.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
He's not like an on ball defender.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Elijah One was an on ball defender, you know, Jordan
and guys like that were on ball. He's a help
defender because those guys get him out there and no
man's laying because it's hard. He's seven foot tall probably
side nineteen twenty foot, Bro, you not finish slide and
you might get him on the first one, but are
you gonna be there that second move?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Are you gonna be that third move or Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So he tied Ben Wallace because Ben Wallace has four
also and we tumb okay, so it's gonna be a
very interesting matchup. But uh, maliek. You told Ad he
needs three to beat you, and he gonna get enough
shots up. He shot ag He shot eighteen threes. They
shot forty three and had eighteen of the forty three.
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He had seven of the thirteen mates. But now they
got what they wanted. They're the sixth seed. They get
the Lakers. What is the series star?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know when the series start Saturday, Sunday, hey from playing.
So they're playing.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So they're not they're not starting before Monday, I mean Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
They don't have to schedule eight.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They don't have the schedule out because yeah, it's contingent
on because the playing teams. You don't want them to
you want to give them affair because so probably the
four or five matchups on both sides of the three
six matchups, they'll probably go out first. Because those guys
will have forgotten all the rest. They don't play it
somebody from the you know the seven, eight and the
nine tens, right, So that's probably how it's gonna go.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
That's that's a good that's a good thing that we
don't know when they play.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That gives us enough time for Fred to hit us
back and a number on what it's gonna look like
for you. You know, I'm serious man, that that. I
think that'd be good, not just for us to watch
the game.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh Joe, you get a thousand dollars, car bro, come
out the money, break bread.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Hold on, let me let me talk to you real quick,
let me talk to you.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I think it would be cool.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Right, It's one thing we do the show, right, but
we don't really get a chance to really spend time together. Now,
we have great chemistry on camera. Now let's let's let's
continue that in person, sitting courtside and doing what the
Fellas do. We could be like life, remember Martin, Remember
Martin and Edie Percy, you know yeah, Clauda right like like,
(08:00):
no no cameras, no, just just two Fellers kicking back
watching the game, you know, you know, enjoying it, talking basketball.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Can you teach me a thing or two? Chat chat y'all. Hell,
tell me what I'm missing here? Chat?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh, Joe ball, he got a new crib twenty one
thousand dollars in just a handful of furniture.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Saw the man spend all this money on chrome heard jeans,
and he just spent seven hundred k on a car.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And he want me to pay the courts side seats? Whoa, whoa? Listen,
you ain't got to pay for him. We can split it. No,
you should pay for it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay, all right, I got you. I got you, so
take it. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.
Take that finished out on the table, and I get
his court side ticket. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. That's
how I'm feel I'm feeling like that.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You gonna pay something, You gonna play something with my money. Chat.
You just said, I'm not. I'm on now.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You got to make up your mind now now, either
be gonna sit courtside together, you know, and have some
type of chemistry and enjoy the game, or you want
your fifty two hundred.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
We can't do you can't have it both ways. I
wrought you again. I bought with your money.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You being selfish? Now, don't don't, don't be selfish. I'm
trying to do something out of the goodness in my heart.
You talk about what I owe you, but I'm paying.
I'm paying for course side tickets that quadruple what I
owe you.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
It's the thought that counts. So you go buy sharing
this caring.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You're gonna buy me a ticket with my money.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Now, I'm not gonna use your money. I'm gonna use
the money I already got. Now, the money I owe
you is set aside.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
What's set it aside? In my pocket? Does that sit
beside me? Since then I wanted to be beside me?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You may listen, man, here the word shad.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
This man spent seven hundred k on a lamb boat.
He just got furniture, He got a seventy his TV
with surround sounds. Y'all saw him sitting on a ferrari.
Y'all saw the man on the chrome heard jeans.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Hold on, hold on, that's that's that's right, that's ferrari.
Oh that's old chart. I got a booster in Miami.
Get everything for me? Uh, I ain't even got to
pay for a price.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
That shirt I know what it is. I didn't wanted
you to say it, and I know what it calls.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Oh yeah, because I got chain.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Oh you got this. No, I ain't get that, but
I got the look book that it came out of.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know I was. I was in.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I was in the look Book. And let me treat mysel.
It's twenty twenty five. I told you, man, I'm myself.
I got something in mind for fifty two hundred.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
What you got in telling tell us what you got
to have? Well, I better have one of the more
roonies I want to take out for fifty two hundred.
Oh absolutely, No, you ain't spend no fifty two hundred on.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
No, No, I ain't gonna tell me what I need
to spend my money on.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Hey, you ain't spending listen, let me tell you something.
I love you like a brother, and you always talk
to me when it comes to doing things I shouldn't
be doing. You ain't spending fifty two hundred on Nathaniel.
Nathaniel because she ain't been here life long enough. Because
I don't even know who she is, the fact that
I don't know who is that mean she worked fifty
two hundred now she was that specially, I would know
(11:33):
about her.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I told you I need fifty two hundred for the dog.
What dog?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I tell you, I'm getting a dog. Okay, I'll tell
you what you said. You send the lady, and you're right.
The dog in Europe. You said it the first five hundred,
and when she get here with the dog, I see
the other fifty two.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I already said her the money, I already said. He half.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Okay, Okay, when the dog get it, I said, I
gotta pay for the dog.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Luca Fairs, the Legers have the team to make a
title run. Oh Joe, do you believe it? Absolutely? Absolutely,
he's supposed to say that.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
He's Listen, if he was, you said, Luca, right, let me,
let me, let me, let me make sure I give
my parents right. Listen, if Lucas said it for a reason,
he already did it with Dallas. He already did it
with Dallas. And then he has the greatest player of
all time, you know, playing alongside of him. If you
get everybody else to contribute, and the bench shows up
when they need to show up, there's a possibility it
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can be done. Now, I think one of the issues
that we're going to run into. Look, I'm talking about weed. Listen,
I'm a Heat fan. I'm just saying we for continuity
based on talking about the Lakers and what Luke had
to say. If the bench shows up, I think the
only issue we will have is the fact that they
don't have a big huh and depending on who they play,
styles and matchups are very important in the seven game series,
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very important.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Don't have a big Minnesota doesn't have a big that
you could like. Rudy Gobert is not gonna hurt you
because they don't have to run place. Now, You're gonna
have to keep him off the glass because he could
rebound and give you a second chance opportunities there.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It is that that might be a problem because we
don't have nobody to who do we Why do I
keep saying we got damn it? Who do we have
that cont to keep him rent them from getting having sex,
second chance, second shot chances.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Jack Day's.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
That's my that's my due, and you know that's coach
hayes Son.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Huh what coach.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
My tight end coach for the base.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It gotten today? Yes, that's just fun. Yeah Thingue I
was with it he was.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I think, if I'm not mistakeing, I think he was
at Kansas City when I was in the league.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Matter of fact, I got the picture what I got
the picture with uh with with uh little Hayes right
he was about he was yay about short.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I didn't know that, O yo.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, matter of fact, I only knew because
the same night, when was it the Lakers played Philly
when when god damn, Pat Beverley was there, Pat Bell
was coming over to talk to me, and Jackson Hayes
came up first, and it pissed Pat off. So Pat
walked off and I looked, I'm like, wait a minute,
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why don't you.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
You And I didn't know he was in the NBA.
He's like yeah. I asked him how Pop was doing?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Pop was doing good. I'm like, this, man, he's not
coaching Cincinnati, is he? No?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
No, No, he's not the Cincinnati know Zach Taylor. That
makes a completely different staff, completely different.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Top to bottom.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, but I think it's gonna be a great I
think it's uh look, Luca Lebron and uh Ar, that
should be plenty of offense. Guys just got to play
the role. You need us it.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Phinney Smith, you need van do when they come in.
They need you a job.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Hey, and man gonna get his points, but you just
gotta make it difficult. You gotta make him exert yourself
as much as you possibly can, because so that's gonna
be on Luca, that's gonna be on Ar.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You gotta make him work.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
You gotta make it, make him exhaust himself on one
end the court. You can't let it rest. He's not
gonna play Lebron. Lebron's too big. So somebody's gotta guard Luca.
And so if I'm looking at the pull back up,
let me see her pull it up right quick, sugar.
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They possibly put on Luca. Uh oh box score trying
to figure ot who they're gonna put on Luca.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Nah, not that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And on that game. Oh here it is right here.
See what they could put on Luca Jade Jade McDaniels, Well,
(16:15):
he can only guard one. Julius Rander will probably take Lebron.
Jade McDaniels is gonna have to tak guard Luca Luca
or he's gonna have to guard Aar.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
And that means what do you call it? A man,
gonna have to guard the other one. Mm hmm. I'm excited. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I'm gonna say, listen, listen, just sitting here talking about it, man,
with you back and forth.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Man, you you got to want to.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Actually be there in person, man, because I think the
chat with the chat would enjoy that, the chat would
enjoy it, just just just you and I at the game.
I just oh, man, I'm excited. I got I got
chills talking about it. Man, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh, it's gonna be a great one.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's gonna it's gonna be yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna
be a great, great series. I'm hoping for a great series.
Hopefully everybody stays healthy and you get the job done.
But uh, I don't think you can really. I think
this is a this is a great matchup. You got Lebron, Luca,
and you got add Man. Yes, sir, you can't. You
can't ask for anything more than that. Then you got
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a young star, you got Lebron. We know what he
is in the playoffs. All the records for the for
the most part, uh ten NBA finals, four, championships four,
m VP's first in point scores, second of assists. You know,
up there rebounds up there in block shots and all that.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
So this is a great matchup. I can't can't wait
to see it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Probably not gonna get kicked off before Sunday of next week.
I can see maybe Saturday, maybe Saturday, but I'm thinking Sunday.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Actually, although we haven't we haven't seen it yet, so.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Oh Joe. Jason Kidd says there some are comparing.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The Babe Ruth Luca with ad. They're preparing that trade
to when Babe Ruth. The Red Sox traded Babe Route
to the Yankees four hundred thousand dollars because the owner
wanted to finance a movie, which is kind of cool
in regards to the Luca trade.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean, if the Yankees is pretty cool. Not if
you're the Red Sox.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Eighty years. You with eighty years and you was cursed.
So I don't know the prism or the lens in
which j Kidd is looking at this through, but he's
on the wrong end of this trade currently. So for
the Yankees, yes, it's very cool. Excuse me, For the Lakers,
it's very cool like it was for the Yankees because
they got Babe Ruth. They traded Babe Ruth. There was
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an eighty year stretch where it wasn't cool.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And I think the lens that he's looking at it from,
he's looking at it on how great Babe Ruth was
not only they left the Red Sox Red Sox, but
what he was able to do for the Yankees once
he got there.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And I think Jason.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
King can also see long term the visual effects of
having Luca and how consistent he's gonna be with the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And it's almost a shot as its own organization.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Huh. Yeah, it's a shot.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
At his own organization, because how could we do this
where you're comparing the trade of Luca to the Lakers
to that of Babe Roots leaving the Red Sox to
go to the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, because we know what he did for the Yankees.
It catapulted him and put him in a stratosphere. And
they now as part in terms of baseball, they're the
number one baseball team. And I mean, hey, the Yankee
pin strikes nobody else. Nobody else has a Yankee pen strike,
or has a signature or or Seville fable role, whatever
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you want to call it, where they're named after something
like man them a Yankee pinstripe. Nobody else has that
Bay Route trade Boston and New York for cash University
regarded it's one of the worst sports trades in history.
The Yankees became the Yankees. The Red Sox Cups suffer
the curse of the Bambino by not winning the World
Series for eighty six years. I don't know if the
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Dallas fans are going to be happy if they don't
win a championship for eighty six years.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well, it's likely looking to going down that way unless
there're some someone magical comes along in free agency. Someone
magical comes along. That's the one that's a one and done.
In college, it ain't looking too pretty well.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Let's let's see what happened when Kyrie gets back.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Hey stop, When Kyrie gets back ad with the team
they have They have Gaffer, they have Lively. They got
three live, active bodies that you can play a d
at the four now when you really need him. You
can play him at the five late in the ball game,
which he likes to be, which plays his best when
he's at the four.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But he can play the five last five minutes of
the ball game. So you got three active big with
gafferd A D and Lively.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Likely it's likely Lively Lively there h yeah, Lively the second.
So once you get him, Kyrie Nick Marshall has played
really well.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Let's see Clay. Clay has had some really good games.
He's been off.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Obviously, we know Clay is not what he was was,
but he can get hot, he can catch fire.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, definitely, So let's see right now, it's really not
the time.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I know everybody's looking at the trade of a vacuum
because what the lake, since what Luca is doing for
the Lakers, and especially what he did last night, Let's
give this trade a year or two then we can
really assess it, says okay, because what happens if the
marriage are in the finals? What happens if they turned
this thing around? So no, I think with Kyrie, I
think with Kyrie Ojo. We know Kyrie is a is
(21:45):
A is an All Star and today was as all
NBA and an All Star. So two of those guys,
with the teams that they got, obviously they they can
probably make some moves. Now what have to say? They
don't make a movie could possibly laying KD. Now are
you still upset?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
No? I'm not Kyrie and ad.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Hold on, we keep talking about Kyrie listening.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I love Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I love everything that he does right, everything that he
can do, especially being one of the greatest dribblers and
great dribblers of the ball and be able to create
his own shot.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
BUTNK, he's coming off of ACL tire. Do we know
what Kyrie we're getting coming off of that?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Can he come back and still have the same lateral movement,
the same quickness, still be able to do the same
things he did that made him special when he has
a ball in his hands.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
We don't know that yet.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I believe he will, considering with the way medicine is
and the way these guys come back now. It used
to be a death sentence when you had an ac
L back in the seventy maybe even the eighties. But
now with the way medicine is, oh Jo, these guys
coming back in seven eight months now basketball players, they
normally air on the side of caution, sir, So it
probably he probably won't be back until after the new year,
(22:55):
So twenty six possibly would be the earliest that you're
gonna see Kyrie. But I have no doubt in my
mind that he's gonna come back and be the same Kyrie.
He's still gonna be dynamic, he's still gonna be electric.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
And now you pair him with a d and who
knows what they're gonna do there. I don't believe they're
standing pat obviously. Look, there's a reports out there that
they're Uh, the sons are gonna have to do something
because the way they're constructed, even with KD, even with Book,
even with Bradley Bill, they're gonna miss the playoffs. They're
not even in the play in So you can't keep
(23:26):
this team the same, right, you're paying three hundred plus
million dollars. You got three hundred plus million dollars tied
up in three guys, and you missed the playoff in
its entirety.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
You gotta blow it up. You gotta blow it up.
KD is leaving. I know that, Yeah, KD.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Bill, I mean you gotta get you gotta move on
because it's not it's not it's not working.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It hasn't worked. Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And when they as a matter of fact, when they
made the playoffs, if I'm not mistaken, I think they
got swept. So you get swept. You missed the playoffs.
It's it's over. Yeah, it's over. So let's see what
Let's see what they do. But yeah, j Kidd, I
don't know. I mean, you look at this thing. I
think you look at it upside down. Had you got Luca,
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you could say, yeah, we can compare this. But y'allship
Luca out. So I guarantee you The Red Sox weren't
that once Babe Ruth started knocking the ball over the
fence and they started winning World Series. Yeah, I don't
think they were just happy. Yeah, they thought they were
gonna be Yeah, you gotta you gotta look at it.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Though.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
For Jason Kidd to say what he's saying as a
head coach of the Dallas Mavericks, it just tells you
how special Luca was to where you're you're even using
that in comparison to that trade that long ago. Again,
it's it's it's a it's a low blowing it's a
shot at management. How could you do something like this?
How could you have a trade of this magnitude, Because
(24:54):
he's comparing it to that of Bathing leaving the Red Sox.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Right and us. The thing is Lucas twenty six. He
didn't ask to be traded. Babe. Ruth didn't ask to
be traded.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know, the owner wanted to financial play and he
needed money, and hey, it happened, and they traded. If
I'm probably mistaken them because they're in the same division now,
I don't know if they were back then, but you
traded him to a division rival. So it's crazy that
it happened. But hey, I don't know if crazier things
(25:28):
have happened, But we'll see. I think you'll have to
give this deal. I can't look at it this year.
How he got hurt. Ad was hurt for a large
part of a large stretch. I think he missed twenty
plus games after he got there, played great the first
three quarters of a game and with outstanding and then
he got injured and he missed some time. So let's
see over the next two to three years how this
(25:50):
trade play out, because we might look at it.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Hey might look at it totally different, yeh.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Devin Booker spoke about the Suns missing the play in
He said, it's been a slowly I've been feeling this
way the majority of the season. Does the Sun missing
the playoffs change your view on Kd's legacy?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
No, absolutely not. I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I don't think it's changes his legacy. There's only so
much KD can do. KD still regardless, and then missing
the playoffs will be one of the greatest scores of
all time.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Nothing will change that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think the the chase of having super teams, I
think it's it's come to an end now. I think
it's come to an end. Kat's probably going to be moved.
He will move on somewhere else where he goes, I'm
not sure. I think he will try to get another
title or two.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So wherever he chooses to go, I'm sure management might
not not.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Cooperate, but probably give him that grace and sending him
somewhere where he wants to play and where he has
a chance of winning a title.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I don't think Devin Booker is going to be there
as well.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I think I think I'm not going to use it.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I don't hate using the term you watch a welcome
you don't want to stay too long, similar to but
stay with the Blazers a little too long because he
wanted to be loyal.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh no, you're talking about you talked about KG with
the Timberwolves.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
No, no, no, with the Trailblazer. Yeah, dang, dang, dang.
I don't want Devin Booker to to do that, you know,
I don't want you to wear out to welcome and
then try to be loyal to a franchise that really
really isn't going anywhere. Give yourself a chance, give yourself
self a chance to compete at a championship or at
least make the playoffs to get past the first round.
So I think both of them are probably going, and
(27:32):
you know, the Sons are gonna have to scrap everything
and really really start all over.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But were just where I would disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
This notion that we put drop Kevin durant in and
that team is automatically a championship contending team is just
no longer true. We've seen him get dropped in at Brooklyn.
He got swept and he got to the second round.
He had a three to two lead and he lost
two games, the game seven on his court. We see
him go to p with Devin Booker and Bradley Bill. Yes, sir,
(28:04):
while his legacy might not be altered, it may or
may not. Let's see once his career is done. But
this notion that you dropped Kevin Durant in anywhere and
they are a championship contending team.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Is no longer true. It's no longer true.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And I don't think I defy the person that can
argue that point and say, Shannony, it is true. We
saw him with Kyrie, we saw him with James Harden,
we saw him with Devin Booker, we saw him with
Bradley bial Right. The only thing that we know is
Steph Curry, Draymond and Klay Thompson. That was a team
(28:43):
that won seventy three games the year before he got
there and blew a three.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
To one lead.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
They beat a team Kevin Durant was on the same
was on the team that blew to three one lead
to Golden State. Right, Golden State turned around and blew
a three to one lead to.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
The Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So with that being said, I think it's gonna be
hard pressed for any analysis for any historian, for any
player in the NBA as great as Kevin Durant is,
to say that you're just dropping me in and their
championship contending team is not not true. It's not true
because we've seen we've seen it hold.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
On even with him being able to score the way
he can.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
So what happened? So could he not go in Brooklyn?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Well, you remember everything with Haywire and Brooklyn, with Kyrie and.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
What happened in Phoenix. Se we keep weep, we keep safe. See,
you keep coming up with excuses. I'm just telling you what.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
It's not excuses if if it's documented on what happened
Kyrie was in Kyrie. You know, I'm not sure what's
wrong with Kyrie.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
James Harden. James Harden wanted out.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I mean, seemed like everything fell apart from from what
looked good that I thought that even I thought, you know,
as as as somewhat of a badasketball fan, I'm like, oh, well,
the nest they definitely gonna be. They gonna have a shot.
They definitely coming out east. That's what I thought, until
you know, Kyrie with the scruntle. James Harden got upset,
he wanted out, and Kadi was like.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Why, yeah, why did James Harden want to get out?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Why?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't know what in double type of internal issues
they were having. Just from the outside looking in, I
thought it was a good guy.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Y'all start this.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
See every time we have a conversation, they try to
slide Lebron. That's not true because Lebron went to Miami. Okay,
what were they doing before Lebron ribbed in Miami? When
Lebron left, how long before they got back to another
NBA Finals? When Lebron went to Cleveland, how long before
they returned to the finals.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
They went all four years, they won one.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Kyrie got hurt in the overtime of Game one. Kevin
Love never played in that series. He goes to the
Lakers and in the second year they win a title.
So this notion that when Lebron James goes, the rings
don't follow, it's just not true because we've seen him
move three times at all three locations. There's a trophy
(31:07):
and he's a finals MVP. So this notion that Lebron
James doesn't move the needle, it's just not true. You
might not like him, you can call him all the
names you want, but it's factual.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's factual, pure and simple. I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
He's the most I mean, he has a Ken doll now,
the first and athlete to have be a Ken ambassador.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Very unique, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
They they got all the details right, but this notion, guys,
come on, now, let's be fair. See y'all blame that.
So he's in Phoenix. He got Devin Booker, who's an
All Star. Bradley Beal was an All Star. They missed
the playoffs with three All Stars, they missed the playoffs.
(31:56):
They got swept the first year. Come on, man, Cleveland
seems to be doing fire without him.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
How long is Lebron? Hold on? How long has Lebron
been in LA four? Has it been four years?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Like seven years? In nineteen twenty one, two twenty three,
twenty four? Six years? Okay, so six years now I
know after Lebron left? Give me the pick Darius Garland?
What pick was Darius Garland? Because if you're doing well,
you're not picking Daris Garland. Daris Garland was the top
five pick. Am I correct? He was a fifth pick
(32:33):
in the draft? What about Sexton?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
What pick was he hold on holding a Sexton?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
What pick was Evan Mobley? So this notion y'all talk
about Cleveland seem to be just fired.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
They should be. They got to talk.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Van Mobley was the third pick in the draft. Daris
Garland was the fifth pick in the JAB A car
room with the fifth pick in the draft. What pick was?
What pick was?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Section?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Mobley was three, Section car Room was five, Garland was five?
What about sex? And they ended up trading him to
get Donovan Mitchell. He was a lottery pick.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, he was eight. So I damn sure, hope. So
they doing just fine. Now, it took a while. You
got a top you got two thoughts, you got three,
you got three top five picks. Yeah, three.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Come on now, y'all, don't y'all, y'all, y'all don't want
to argue this, y'all, y'all really don't. I got tired tonight.
I got tired to night. Y'all don't really want to done. Yeah,
y'all know how I do. I do this for a living.
I do this for a living.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Y'all. Don't want to argue the facts facts.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I like Katie to Miami, though, I just want I
just want to throw that at Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I was, Oh Joe, I don't see. Here's the problem
that you have when you trade for k D. Because
you're gonna have to give up so much to get him,
because people want to because they gave up so much
to get him. Think about what they gave up, what
they traded a Michael Bridge I of Cam Johnson for
a first round picks. So I need to replenish my cupboard,
(34:23):
my pantry for what I lost.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Giving him up. Now, you're never gonna get equal value
back there.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
You going so already knowing that they can only ask
for so much because there is no equal value out
there in the NBA outside of players that are untouchable,
outside of the players that are gonna be untouchable.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Right, and so that's the thing, O Joe. But see,
here's the like him going to Golden State. Because let's
just say Golden State had to trade for him, they
would have probably had to give up Clay or Draymond.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
They would have had to give up a piece. But
because he.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Was a free agent, right, it made it easy. It
made it easy. I ain't got give up anything. And
he took a friend of deal. He could have got more,
he took a lot of less money. Okay, he goes
to a Brooklyn. He's a free agent. They don't have
to give up anything. So now you can trade those pieces.
Kyrie was a free agent. They go together, James Harden comes.
(35:16):
You had to give up some, but now you got
hard and you got Kyrie and you got a KD
for whatever happened. James Harden sees where it's going. He's like, man,
we can't win here. He wanted to trade. You trade
for Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons was damaging Philly. I knew
from the.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Time being lost that get they lost that to Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I said it was done because once I heard darc
talk after the game, I heard Joel and Be talk
after the game. Go back and look it up. I said,
he's done there. It'll never be the same. It's done.
Now you get him now Kyrie, you have the COVID situation.
Kyrie doesn't take the COVID vaccination. He has the issue
where he tweeted the link. Okay, whatever happened, it happened.
(35:58):
He moves. Kd's like, bro, it is what it is not.
It's not gonna work. Let me go somewhere. He wanted
to go to Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
He likes book.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Seems like a great but you guy it. But see
when you trade the same thing with Mellow when he
went to the Knicks, you have to give up so
much to get him. You looking at that team, You're
like with damn man, I really like that they nice
over there. When you get there, they've given up all
the top two three of the top picks and draft picks.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Well, how do you how do you build a team?
O Joe? You three d You have no depth. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
See the difference is Boston drafted, drafted. So we got
we got, we got our core right now. The verse
mistake that they made Milwaukee they traded for Dame. They
give up holiday. Well, it seems to me when you
give when you give up Dame, Portland says we're going young,
(37:00):
to say we'll we'll take.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Holiday, we'll take about your hands.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
You get Dereck White on a on a on a
deal early, you bring big al back.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, you made them hold.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
So now I can build around because I'm piecing things together.
I don't have to give up a whole lot. Because
Portland wanted to go young, they weren't asking. They didn't
ask for Jalen Brown, they didn't ask for Date. Well,
obviously Tatum, you're not getting him, and they swung the
deal for Prazingers. Prezingers wanted out. He didn't want to
play with with Luca anymore. He said, I'm tired of
(37:38):
y'all blaming me for every damn.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Thing, I'm gonna get out.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So that's the problem that you have when you give
up so much for KD. What do you have Ojoe?
You could have two stars, but what about your bitch?
What about your death? That's where the Celtics beat ass. Yeah,
they come in with Pritchard, they come in with Houser,
they come in with al Horford. Off the bench, you
(38:05):
got three perimeter defenders with Holiday, with Derrick White and
Jalen Brown. Tatum couldn't defend, obviously, he's not like those guys,
but he could defend.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, you gotta have depth, Okay, see depth?
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Damn I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That's why Cleveland made the trade to get DeAndre Hunter.
They wanted to add strength to their bench because if
you can't have a bench. If that's what Golden State
used to kick your ass. If they had a lead,
the second unit, the shot troops would extend the lead
if you had if the other team had the lead,
they would cut into it or even the game up.
(38:44):
Now you bring Chad, you bring step, you bring Draymond,
you bring Clay back.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
They run away from you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Well, the way you make it sound, it's like it's
impossible it's impossible.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
But kdie't go anywhere, so he might as well stay
and Phoenix because they're nowhere.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
They can get the value all the conversation for him.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
The problem else he knows they tried to they wanted,
they would they if Kad would have said, yeah, I
want to go, they would have moved him.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
It was in the middle of the season, so nothing
can happen.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
But guess what if they want to move you in
the middle of the season, what the hell you think
they're doing the off season.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Oh, they're gonna move They're gonna move you.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Hey, how do you think he'll ride in Phoenix? There
was a bit of little fever trade. Yeah, so he
was not like he wasn't he He's new to this.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
That's how he can ride the things I.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Would say during the super Bowl. And it happened during
the super Bowl. Remember I told you at our hotel,
I walked the hotel. Now I'm like, cannle a ton
lass dude, damn kr uh, it's gonna be my thing
is It's just that you goulda have to give up
(40:01):
so much to get it. They're gonna want I mean
if he goes to Miami. Oh yo, who do you
think they're gonna want? Are you gonna give up Hero?
You're gonna give up Bam, you'll give up hot? What
hot smith?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Hot? With the hot smith? How which one is it?
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Probably probably probably Tyler?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
No, they ain't thet dy ain'tive him Tyler Hero. Well,
they got scared Terry Rogier. They gonna probably want to
get up off him because he's dealing with the he's
dealing with the stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
With the gambling and all that. He's been injured. Mmm,
that's tough pay.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Pat Dobs said, Oh, you better not let Stephen a
slide at the next mester might and lose the third
seed to the Pacers Celtics back to back.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Oh no, he already know, he already know. I see
his ass this week.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Oh he better not and we go and we mess right,
because if I think we played, uh we played Houston tomorrow, right,
Houston tomorrow and then Portland on Sunday. All we gotta
do is win one game. We got third seed locked up.
It's on for him.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Oh he ain't sliding.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Pat generation Ozimpic Olympic Luca is prolific. Sheldon pope KD
is going to be looking for a team. O Jo
can see KD and your city player for the Heat.
What's the pitch O joking? You can sell KT to
come to Miami and play, And I.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Mean it's Miami. Miami. Is Miami a place like here?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I think if we get we can get pat Riley
to take a back seat and not try to be
the enforcer in the ruler of always that.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, the Miami.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
He was in the midst of a twenty seven game
winning streat and to cert his power, he took cookies
that he knew Lebron James was looking for. Does that
strike you as a guy that's willing to see anything.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, you're right, You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
But if we if we here, Heat Nation want to
get back to our winning ways, we need someone like
Kevin Durant to come in here and just give us
a chance.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
I'm not you need to pat Riley to stop trying
to assert his power.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Well, we need Mickey Harrison need to talk to him. Then,
Mickey need to say something.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I mean, pat has an ownership state.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
It got Mickey and his son are the major and
his family are the majority owner.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
You have a percentage in there that happen
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Before the Jazz game against the Wolds, Malik bez A
tweeted at you need seven threes to beat me at
became the youngest player to league the league in three
points made.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
He got it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
He say you need that, asaid, okay, say no more
fan and he went, he went and got all self yep,
beat him boy one.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It's so funny when you think about it, when you
think about hitting seven threes, it sounds so easy until
you in destructuring environment, actually playing a game, and don't
understand how difficult it is.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Uh got nice.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
He was seven of eighteen, three fifteen of thirty. He
won from the field forty minutes. He was plus twenty.
Rudy Gobert had nineteen and eighteen rebounds. Jude Ramdall had
ten points, ten rebounds, five assists. They got great production
off the bench from nas Reid game eleven points, Dante
(04:17):
di Vintenzio gave him sixteen points, and the kill Alexander
gave him nine points to twenty five Thirsty, so they
got thirty six bench points. The Jazz uugh Oscar Tashibi
played well, gave him break points off the bench. I
(04:39):
don't know what the Jazz is really gonna do. But
the Timberwolves, that's the Lakers next to Ponting. They got
a guy that can protect the rim, Rudy Gobert. But
the thing is, you ain't got no pig got it
when you he's not a guy you run plays for.
You just got to keep him up the glass, Jackson, Hayes.
Just keep him out of the glass. Don't go no
(05:00):
on face, don't don't do anything that. Just keep him
up the glass. The problem of is that in the
fourth quarter he becomes a liability because everybody's gonna put
him in the pick and roll and they're gonna make
him guard. If you go back and watch the game
last year, what did Luca do? Put him in the
pick and roll? Come on? And Mark Jackson used to say,
shall I have this dance? Yes you may, and uh
(05:23):
so that's what you got to do to the big
guys that punish him. He's out there in the back,
he's out thereat because look as a defensive player, and
that's he's one what four defensive player of the years
and now ash Yes, he's really he's really a help defender.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
He's not like an on ball defender.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Elijah One was an on ball defender, you know, Jordan
and guys like that were on ball. He's a help
defender because those guys get him out there and no
man's laying because it's hard. He's seven foot tall probably
side nineteen twenty foot, Bro, you not finish slide and
you might get him on the first one, but are
you gonna be there that second move?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Are you gonna be that third move or Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So he tied Ben Wallace because Ben Wallace has four
also and we tumb okay, so it's gonna be a
very interesting matchup. But uh, maliek. You told Ad he
needs three to beat you, and he gonna get enough
shots up. He shot ag He shot eighteen threes. They
shot forty three and had eighteen of the forty three.
(06:27):
He had seven of the thirteen mates. But now they
got what they wanted. They're the sixth seed. They get
the Lakers. What is the series star?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know when the series start Saturday, Sunday, hey from playing.
So they're playing.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So they're not they're not starting before Monday, I mean Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
They don't have to schedule eight.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They don't have the schedule out because yeah, it's contingent
on because the playing teams. You don't want them to
you want to give them affair because so probably the
four or five matchups on both sides of the three
six matchups, they'll probably go out first. Because those guys
will have forgotten all the rest. They don't play it
somebody from the you know the seven, eight and the
nine tens, right, So that's probably how it's gonna go.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
That's that's a good that's a good thing that we
don't know when they play.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That gives us enough time for Fred to hit us
back and a number on what it's gonna look like
for you. You know, I'm serious man, that that. I
think that'd be good, not just for us to watch
the game.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh Joe, you get a thousand dollars, car bro, come
out the money, break bread.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Hold on, let me let me talk to you real quick,
let me talk to you.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I think it would be cool.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Right, It's one thing we do the show, right, but
we don't really get a chance to really spend time together. Now,
we have great chemistry on camera. Now let's let's let's
continue that in person, sitting courtside and doing what the
Fellas do. We could be like life, remember Martin, Remember
Martin and Edie Percy, you know yeah, Clauda right like like,
(08:00):
no no cameras, no, just just two Fellers kicking back
watching the game, you know, you know, enjoying it, talking basketball.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Can you teach me a thing or two? Chat chat y'all. Hell,
tell me what I'm missing here? Chat?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh, Joe ball, he got a new crib twenty one
thousand dollars in just a handful of furniture.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Saw the man spend all this money on chrome heard jeans,
and he just spent seven hundred k on a car.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And he want me to pay the courts side seats? Whoa, whoa? Listen,
you ain't got to pay for him. We can split it. No,
you should pay for it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay, all right, I got you. I got you, so
take it. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.
Take that finished out on the table, and I get
his court side ticket. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. That's
how I'm feel I'm feeling like that.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You gonna pay something, You gonna play something with my money. Chat.
You just said, I'm not. I'm on now.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You got to make up your mind now now, either
be gonna sit courtside together, you know, and have some
type of chemistry and enjoy the game, or you want
your fifty two hundred.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
We can't do you can't have it both ways. I
wrought you again. I bought with your money.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You being selfish? Now, don't don't, don't be selfish. I'm
trying to do something out of the goodness in my heart.
You talk about what I owe you, but I'm paying.
I'm paying for course side tickets that quadruple what I
owe you.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
It's the thought that counts. So you go buy sharing
this caring.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You're gonna buy me a ticket with my money.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Now, I'm not gonna use your money. I'm gonna use
the money I already got. Now, the money I owe
you is set aside.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
What's set it aside? In my pocket? Does that sit
beside me? Since then I wanted to be beside me?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You may listen, man, here the word shad.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
This man spent seven hundred k on a lamb boat.
He just got furniture, He got a seventy his TV
with surround sounds. Y'all saw him sitting on a ferrari.
Y'all saw the man on the chrome heard jeans.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Hold on, hold on, that's that's that's right, that's ferrari.
Oh that's old chart. I got a booster in Miami.
Get everything for me? Uh, I ain't even got to
pay for a price.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
That shirt I know what it is. I didn't wanted
you to say it, and I know what it calls.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Oh yeah, because I got chain.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Oh you got this. No, I ain't get that, but
I got the look book that it came out of.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know I was. I was in.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I was in the look Book. And let me treat mysel.
It's twenty twenty five. I told you, man, I'm myself.
I got something in mind for fifty two hundred.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
What you got in telling tell us what you got
to have? Well, I better have one of the more
roonies I want to take out for fifty two hundred.
Oh absolutely, No, you ain't spend no fifty two hundred on.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
No, No, I ain't gonna tell me what I need
to spend my money on.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Hey, you ain't spending listen, let me tell you something.
I love you like a brother, and you always talk
to me when it comes to doing things I shouldn't
be doing. You ain't spending fifty two hundred on Nathaniel.
Nathaniel because she ain't been here life long enough. Because
I don't even know who she is, the fact that
I don't know who is that mean she worked fifty
two hundred now she was that specially, I would know
(11:33):
about her.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I told you I need fifty two hundred for the dog.
What dog?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I tell you, I'm getting a dog. Okay, I'll tell
you what you said. You send the lady, and you're right.
The dog in Europe. You said it the first five hundred,
and when she get here with the dog, I see
the other fifty two.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I already said her the money, I already said. He half.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Okay, Okay, when the dog get it, I said, I
gotta pay for the dog.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Luca Fairs, the Legers have the team to make a
title run. Oh Joe, do you believe it? Absolutely? Absolutely,
he's supposed to say that.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
He's Listen, if he was, you said, Luca, right, let me,
let me, let me, let me make sure I give
my parents right. Listen, if Lucas said it for a reason,
he already did it with Dallas. He already did it
with Dallas. And then he has the greatest player of
all time, you know, playing alongside of him. If you
get everybody else to contribute, and the bench shows up
when they need to show up, there's a possibility it
(12:33):
can be done. Now, I think one of the issues
that we're going to run into. Look, I'm talking about weed. Listen,
I'm a Heat fan. I'm just saying we for continuity
based on talking about the Lakers and what Luke had
to say. If the bench shows up, I think the
only issue we will have is the fact that they
don't have a big huh and depending on who they play,
styles and matchups are very important in the seven game series,
(12:59):
very important.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Don't have a big Minnesota doesn't have a big that
you could like. Rudy Gobert is not gonna hurt you
because they don't have to run place. Now, You're gonna
have to keep him off the glass because he could
rebound and give you a second chance opportunities there.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It is that that might be a problem because we
don't have nobody to who do we Why do I
keep saying we got damn it? Who do we have
that cont to keep him rent them from getting having sex,
second chance, second shot chances.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Jack Day's.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
That's my that's my due, and you know that's coach
hayes Son.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Huh what coach.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
My tight end coach for the base.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It gotten today? Yes, that's just fun. Yeah Thingue I
was with it he was.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I think, if I'm not mistakeing, I think he was
at Kansas City when I was in the league.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Matter of fact, I got the picture what I got
the picture with uh with with uh little Hayes right
he was about he was yay about short.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I didn't know that, O yo.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, matter of fact, I only knew because
the same night, when was it the Lakers played Philly
when when god damn, Pat Beverley was there, Pat Bell
was coming over to talk to me, and Jackson Hayes
came up first, and it pissed Pat off. So Pat
walked off and I looked, I'm like, wait a minute,
(14:22):
why don't you.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
You And I didn't know he was in the NBA.
He's like yeah. I asked him how Pop was doing?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Pop was doing good. I'm like, this, man, he's not
coaching Cincinnati, is he? No?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
No, No, he's not the Cincinnati know Zach Taylor. That
makes a completely different staff, completely different.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Top to bottom.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, but I think it's gonna be a great I
think it's uh look, Luca Lebron and uh Ar, that
should be plenty of offense. Guys just got to play
the role. You need us it.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Phinney Smith, you need van do when they come in.
They need you a job.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Hey, and man gonna get his points, but you just
gotta make it difficult. You gotta make him exert yourself
as much as you possibly can, because so that's gonna
be on Luca, that's gonna be on Ar.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You gotta make him work.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
You gotta make it, make him exhaust himself on one
end the court. You can't let it rest. He's not
gonna play Lebron. Lebron's too big. So somebody's gotta guard Luca.
And so if I'm looking at the pull back up,
let me see her pull it up right quick, sugar.
(15:35):
They possibly put on Luca. Uh oh box score trying
to figure ot who they're gonna put on Luca.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Nah, not that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And on that game. Oh here it is right here.
See what they could put on Luca Jade Jade McDaniels, Well,
(16:15):
he can only guard one. Julius Rander will probably take Lebron.
Jade McDaniels is gonna have to tak guard Luca Luca
or he's gonna have to guard Aar.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
And that means what do you call it? A man,
gonna have to guard the other one. Mm hmm. I'm excited. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I'm gonna say, listen, listen, just sitting here talking about it, man,
with you back and forth.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Man, you you got to want to.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Actually be there in person, man, because I think the
chat with the chat would enjoy that, the chat would
enjoy it, just just just you and I at the game.
I just oh, man, I'm excited. I got I got
chills talking about it. Man, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh, it's gonna be a great one.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's gonna it's gonna be yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna
be a great, great series. I'm hoping for a great series.
Hopefully everybody stays healthy and you get the job done.
But uh, I don't think you can really. I think
this is a this is a great matchup. You got Lebron, Luca,
and you got add Man. Yes, sir, you can't. You
can't ask for anything more than that. Then you got
(17:17):
a young star, you got Lebron. We know what he
is in the playoffs. All the records for the for
the most part, uh ten NBA finals, four, championships four,
m VP's first in point scores, second of assists. You know,
up there rebounds up there in block shots and all that.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
So this is a great matchup. I can't can't wait
to see it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Probably not gonna get kicked off before Sunday of next week.
I can see maybe Saturday, maybe Saturday, but I'm thinking Sunday.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Actually, although we haven't we haven't seen it yet, so.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Oh Joe. Jason Kidd says there some are comparing.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The Babe Ruth Luca with ad. They're preparing that trade
to when Babe Ruth. The Red Sox traded Babe Route
to the Yankees four hundred thousand dollars because the owner
wanted to finance a movie, which is kind of cool
in regards to the Luca trade.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean, if the Yankees is pretty cool. Not if
you're the Red Sox.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Eighty years. You with eighty years and you was cursed.
So I don't know the prism or the lens in
which j Kidd is looking at this through, but he's
on the wrong end of this trade currently. So for
the Yankees, yes, it's very cool. Excuse me, For the Lakers,
it's very cool like it was for the Yankees because
they got Babe Ruth. They traded Babe Ruth. There was
(18:50):
an eighty year stretch where it wasn't cool.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And I think the lens that he's looking at it from,
he's looking at it on how great Babe Ruth was
not only they left the Red Sox Red Sox, but
what he was able to do for the Yankees once
he got there.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And I think Jason.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
King can also see long term the visual effects of
having Luca and how consistent he's gonna be with the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And it's almost a shot as its own organization.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Huh. Yeah, it's a shot.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
At his own organization, because how could we do this
where you're comparing the trade of Luca to the Lakers
to that of Babe Roots leaving the Red Sox to
go to the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, because we know what he did for the Yankees.
It catapulted him and put him in a stratosphere. And
they now as part in terms of baseball, they're the
number one baseball team. And I mean, hey, the Yankee
pin strikes nobody else. Nobody else has a Yankee pen strike,
or has a signature or or Seville fable role, whatever
(19:46):
you want to call it, where they're named after something
like man them a Yankee pinstripe. Nobody else has that
Bay Route trade Boston and New York for cash University
regarded it's one of the worst sports trades in history.
The Yankees became the Yankees. The Red Sox Cups suffer
the curse of the Bambino by not winning the World
Series for eighty six years. I don't know if the
(20:08):
Dallas fans are going to be happy if they don't
win a championship for eighty six years.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well, it's likely looking to going down that way unless
there're some someone magical comes along in free agency. Someone
magical comes along. That's the one that's a one and done.
In college, it ain't looking too pretty well.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Let's let's see what happened when Kyrie gets back.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Hey stop, When Kyrie gets back ad with the team
they have They have Gaffer, they have Lively. They got
three live, active bodies that you can play a d
at the four now when you really need him. You
can play him at the five late in the ball game,
which he likes to be, which plays his best when
he's at the four.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But he can play the five last five minutes of
the ball game. So you got three active big with
gafferd A D and Lively.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Likely it's likely Lively Lively there h yeah, Lively the second.
So once you get him, Kyrie Nick Marshall has played
really well.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Let's see Clay. Clay has had some really good games.
He's been off.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Obviously, we know Clay is not what he was was,
but he can get hot, he can catch fire.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, definitely, So let's see right now, it's really not
the time.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I know everybody's looking at the trade of a vacuum
because what the lake, since what Luca is doing for
the Lakers, and especially what he did last night, Let's
give this trade a year or two then we can
really assess it, says okay, because what happens if the
marriage are in the finals? What happens if they turned
this thing around? So no, I think with Kyrie, I
think with Kyrie Ojo. We know Kyrie is a is
(21:45):
A is an All Star and today was as all
NBA and an All Star. So two of those guys,
with the teams that they got, obviously they they can
probably make some moves. Now what have to say? They
don't make a movie could possibly laying KD. Now are
you still upset?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
No? I'm not Kyrie and ad.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Hold on, we keep talking about Kyrie listening.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I love Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I love everything that he does right, everything that he
can do, especially being one of the greatest dribblers and
great dribblers of the ball and be able to create
his own shot.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
BUTNK, he's coming off of ACL tire. Do we know
what Kyrie we're getting coming off of that?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Can he come back and still have the same lateral movement,
the same quickness, still be able to do the same
things he did that made him special when he has
a ball in his hands.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
We don't know that yet.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I believe he will, considering with the way medicine is
and the way these guys come back now. It used
to be a death sentence when you had an ac
L back in the seventy maybe even the eighties. But
now with the way medicine is, oh Jo, these guys
coming back in seven eight months now basketball players, they
normally air on the side of caution, sir, So it
probably he probably won't be back until after the new year,
(22:55):
So twenty six possibly would be the earliest that you're
gonna see Kyrie. But I have no doubt in my
mind that he's gonna come back and be the same Kyrie.
He's still gonna be dynamic, he's still gonna be electric.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
And now you pair him with a d and who
knows what they're gonna do there. I don't believe they're
standing pat obviously. Look, there's a reports out there that
they're Uh, the sons are gonna have to do something
because the way they're constructed, even with KD, even with Book,
even with Bradley Bill, they're gonna miss the playoffs. They're
not even in the play in So you can't keep
(23:26):
this team the same, right, you're paying three hundred plus
million dollars. You got three hundred plus million dollars tied
up in three guys, and you missed the playoff in
its entirety.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
You gotta blow it up. You gotta blow it up.
KD is leaving. I know that, Yeah, KD.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Bill, I mean you gotta get you gotta move on
because it's not it's not it's not working.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It hasn't worked. Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And when they as a matter of fact, when they
made the playoffs, if I'm not mistaken, I think they
got swept. So you get swept. You missed the playoffs.
It's it's over. Yeah, it's over. So let's see what
Let's see what they do. But yeah, j Kidd, I
don't know. I mean, you look at this thing. I
think you look at it upside down. Had you got Luca,
(24:14):
you could say, yeah, we can compare this. But y'allship
Luca out. So I guarantee you The Red Sox weren't
that once Babe Ruth started knocking the ball over the
fence and they started winning World Series. Yeah, I don't
think they were just happy. Yeah, they thought they were
gonna be Yeah, you gotta you gotta look at it.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Though.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
For Jason Kidd to say what he's saying as a
head coach of the Dallas Mavericks, it just tells you
how special Luca was to where you're you're even using
that in comparison to that trade that long ago. Again,
it's it's it's a it's a low blowing it's a
shot at management. How could you do something like this?
How could you have a trade of this magnitude, Because
(24:54):
he's comparing it to that of Bathing leaving the Red Sox.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Right and us. The thing is Lucas twenty six. He
didn't ask to be traded. Babe. Ruth didn't ask to
be traded.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know, the owner wanted to financial play and he
needed money, and hey, it happened, and they traded. If
I'm probably mistaken them because they're in the same division now,
I don't know if they were back then, but you
traded him to a division rival. So it's crazy that
it happened. But hey, I don't know if crazier things
(25:28):
have happened, But we'll see. I think you'll have to
give this deal. I can't look at it this year.
How he got hurt. Ad was hurt for a large
part of a large stretch. I think he missed twenty
plus games after he got there, played great the first
three quarters of a game and with outstanding and then
he got injured and he missed some time. So let's
see over the next two to three years how this
(25:50):
trade play out, because we might look at it.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Hey might look at it totally different, yeh.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Devin Booker spoke about the Suns missing the play in
He said, it's been a slowly I've been feeling this
way the majority of the season. Does the Sun missing
the playoffs change your view on Kd's legacy?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
No, absolutely not. I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I don't think it's changes his legacy. There's only so
much KD can do. KD still regardless, and then missing
the playoffs will be one of the greatest scores of
all time.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Nothing will change that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think the the chase of having super teams, I
think it's it's come to an end now. I think
it's come to an end. Kat's probably going to be moved.
He will move on somewhere else where he goes, I'm
not sure. I think he will try to get another
title or two.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So wherever he chooses to go, I'm sure management might
not not.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Cooperate, but probably give him that grace and sending him
somewhere where he wants to play and where he has
a chance of winning a title.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I don't think Devin Booker is going to be there
as well.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I think I think I'm not going to use it.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I don't hate using the term you watch a welcome
you don't want to stay too long, similar to but
stay with the Blazers a little too long because he
wanted to be loyal.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh no, you're talking about you talked about KG with
the Timberwolves.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
No, no, no, with the Trailblazer. Yeah, dang, dang, dang.
I don't want Devin Booker to to do that, you know,
I don't want you to wear out to welcome and
then try to be loyal to a franchise that really
really isn't going anywhere. Give yourself a chance, give yourself
self a chance to compete at a championship or at
least make the playoffs to get past the first round.
So I think both of them are probably going, and
(27:32):
you know, the Sons are gonna have to scrap everything
and really really start all over.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But were just where I would disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
This notion that we put drop Kevin durant in and
that team is automatically a championship contending team is just
no longer true. We've seen him get dropped in at Brooklyn.
He got swept and he got to the second round.
He had a three to two lead and he lost
two games, the game seven on his court. We see
him go to p with Devin Booker and Bradley Bill. Yes, sir,
(28:04):
while his legacy might not be altered, it may or
may not. Let's see once his career is done. But
this notion that you dropped Kevin Durant in anywhere and
they are a championship contending team.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Is no longer true. It's no longer true.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And I don't think I defy the person that can
argue that point and say, Shannony, it is true. We
saw him with Kyrie, we saw him with James Harden,
we saw him with Devin Booker, we saw him with
Bradley bial Right. The only thing that we know is
Steph Curry, Draymond and Klay Thompson. That was a team
(28:43):
that won seventy three games the year before he got
there and blew a three.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
To one lead.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
They beat a team Kevin Durant was on the same
was on the team that blew to three one lead
to Golden State. Right, Golden State turned around and blew
a three to one lead to.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
The Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So with that being said, I think it's gonna be
hard pressed for any analysis for any historian, for any
player in the NBA as great as Kevin Durant is,
to say that you're just dropping me in and their
championship contending team is not not true. It's not true
because we've seen we've seen it hold.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
On even with him being able to score the way
he can.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
So what happened? So could he not go in Brooklyn?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Well, you remember everything with Haywire and Brooklyn, with Kyrie and.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
What happened in Phoenix. Se we keep weep, we keep safe. See,
you keep coming up with excuses. I'm just telling you what.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
It's not excuses if if it's documented on what happened
Kyrie was in Kyrie. You know, I'm not sure what's
wrong with Kyrie.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
James Harden. James Harden wanted out.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I mean, seemed like everything fell apart from from what
looked good that I thought that even I thought, you know,
as as as somewhat of a badasketball fan, I'm like, oh, well,
the nest they definitely gonna be. They gonna have a shot.
They definitely coming out east. That's what I thought, until
you know, Kyrie with the scruntle. James Harden got upset,
he wanted out, and Kadi was like.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Why, yeah, why did James Harden want to get out?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Why?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I don't know what in double type of internal issues
they were having. Just from the outside looking in, I
thought it was a good guy.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Y'all start this.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
See every time we have a conversation, they try to
slide Lebron. That's not true because Lebron went to Miami. Okay,
what were they doing before Lebron ribbed in Miami? When
Lebron left, how long before they got back to another
NBA Finals? When Lebron went to Cleveland, how long before
they returned to the finals.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
They went all four years, they won one.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Kyrie got hurt in the overtime of Game one. Kevin
Love never played in that series. He goes to the
Lakers and in the second year they win a title.
So this notion that when Lebron James goes, the rings
don't follow, it's just not true because we've seen him
move three times at all three locations. There's a trophy
(31:07):
and he's a finals MVP. So this notion that Lebron
James doesn't move the needle, it's just not true. You
might not like him, you can call him all the
names you want, but it's factual.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's factual, pure and simple. I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
He's the most I mean, he has a Ken doll now,
the first and athlete to have be a Ken ambassador.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Very unique, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
They they got all the details right, but this notion, guys,
come on, now, let's be fair. See y'all blame that.
So he's in Phoenix. He got Devin Booker, who's an
All Star. Bradley Beal was an All Star. They missed
the playoffs with three All Stars, they missed the playoffs.
(31:56):
They got swept the first year. Come on, man, Cleveland
seems to be doing fire without him.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
How long is Lebron? Hold on? How long has Lebron
been in LA four? Has it been four years?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Like seven years? In nineteen twenty one, two twenty three,
twenty four? Six years? Okay, so six years now I
know after Lebron left? Give me the pick Darius Garland?
What pick was Darius Garland? Because if you're doing well,
you're not picking Daris Garland. Daris Garland was the top
five pick. Am I correct? He was a fifth pick
(32:33):
in the draft? What about Sexton?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
What pick was he hold on holding a Sexton?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
What pick was Evan Mobley? So this notion y'all talk
about Cleveland seem to be just fired.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
They should be. They got to talk.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Van Mobley was the third pick in the draft. Daris
Garland was the fifth pick in the JAB A car
room with the fifth pick in the draft. What pick was?
What pick was?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Section?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Mobley was three, Section car Room was five, Garland was five?
What about sex? And they ended up trading him to
get Donovan Mitchell. He was a lottery pick.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, he was eight. So I damn sure, hope. So
they doing just fine. Now, it took a while. You
got a top you got two thoughts, you got three,
you got three top five picks. Yeah, three.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Come on now, y'all, don't y'all, y'all, y'all don't want
to argue this, y'all, y'all really don't. I got tired tonight.
I got tired to night. Y'all don't really want to done. Yeah,
y'all know how I do. I do this for a living.
I do this for a living.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Y'all. Don't want to argue the facts facts.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I like Katie to Miami, though, I just want I
just want to throw that at Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I was, Oh Joe, I don't see. Here's the problem
that you have when you trade for k D. Because
you're gonna have to give up so much to get him,
because people want to because they gave up so much
to get him. Think about what they gave up, what
they traded a Michael Bridge I of Cam Johnson for
a first round picks. So I need to replenish my cupboard,
(34:23):
my pantry for what I lost.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Giving him up. Now, you're never gonna get equal value
back there.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
You going so already knowing that they can only ask
for so much because there is no equal value out
there in the NBA outside of players that are untouchable,
outside of the players that are gonna be untouchable.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Right, and so that's the thing, O Joe. But see,
here's the like him going to Golden State. Because let's
just say Golden State had to trade for him, they
would have probably had to give up Clay or Draymond.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
They would have had to give up a piece. But
because he.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Was a free agent, right, it made it easy. It
made it easy. I ain't got give up anything. And
he took a friend of deal. He could have got more,
he took a lot of less money. Okay, he goes
to a Brooklyn. He's a free agent. They don't have
to give up anything. So now you can trade those pieces.
Kyrie was a free agent. They go together, James Harden comes.
(35:16):
You had to give up some, but now you got
hard and you got Kyrie and you got a KD
for whatever happened. James Harden sees where it's going. He's like, man,
we can't win here. He wanted to trade. You trade
for Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons was damaging Philly. I knew
from the.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Time being lost that get they lost that to Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I said it was done because once I heard darc
talk after the game, I heard Joel and Be talk
after the game. Go back and look it up. I said,
he's done there. It'll never be the same. It's done.
Now you get him now Kyrie, you have the COVID situation.
Kyrie doesn't take the COVID vaccination. He has the issue
where he tweeted the link. Okay, whatever happened, it happened.
(35:58):
He moves. Kd's like, bro, it is what it is not.
It's not gonna work. Let me go somewhere. He wanted
to go to Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
He likes book.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Seems like a great but you guy it. But see
when you trade the same thing with Mellow when he
went to the Knicks, you have to give up so
much to get him. You looking at that team, You're
like with damn man, I really like that they nice
over there. When you get there, they've given up all
the top two three of the top picks and draft picks.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Well, how do you how do you build a team?
O Joe? You three d You have no depth. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
See the difference is Boston drafted, drafted. So we got
we got, we got our core right now. The verse
mistake that they made Milwaukee they traded for Dame. They
give up holiday. Well, it seems to me when you
give when you give up Dame, Portland says we're going young,
(37:00):
to say we'll we'll take.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Holiday, we'll take about your hands.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
You get Dereck White on a on a on a
deal early, you bring big al back.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, you made them hold.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
So now I can build around because I'm piecing things together.
I don't have to give up a whole lot. Because
Portland wanted to go young, they weren't asking. They didn't
ask for Jalen Brown, they didn't ask for Date. Well,
obviously Tatum, you're not getting him, and they swung the
deal for Prazingers. Prezingers wanted out. He didn't want to
play with with Luca anymore. He said, I'm tired of
(37:38):
y'all blaming me for every damn.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Thing, I'm gonna get out.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So that's the problem that you have when you give
up so much for KD. What do you have Ojoe?
You could have two stars, but what about your bitch?
What about your death? That's where the Celtics beat ass. Yeah,
they come in with Pritchard, they come in with Houser,
they come in with al Horford. Off the bench, you
(38:05):
got three perimeter defenders with Holiday, with Derrick White and
Jalen Brown. Tatum couldn't defend, obviously, he's not like those guys,
but he could defend.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, you gotta have depth, Okay, see depth?
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Damn I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That's why Cleveland made the trade to get DeAndre Hunter.
They wanted to add strength to their bench because if
you can't have a bench. If that's what Golden State
used to kick your ass. If they had a lead,
the second unit, the shot troops would extend the lead
if you had if the other team had the lead,
they would cut into it or even the game up.
(38:44):
Now you bring Chad, you bring step, you bring Draymond,
you bring Clay back.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
They run away from you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Well, the way you make it sound, it's like it's
impossible it's impossible.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
But kdie't go anywhere, so he might as well stay
and Phoenix because they're nowhere.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
They can get the value all the conversation for him.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
The problem else he knows they tried to they wanted,
they would they if Kad would have said, yeah, I
want to go, they would have moved him.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
It was in the middle of the season, so nothing
can happen.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
But guess what if they want to move you in
the middle of the season, what the hell you think
they're doing the off season.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Oh, they're gonna move They're gonna move you.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Hey, how do you think he'll ride in Phoenix? There
was a bit of little fever trade. Yeah, so he
was not like he wasn't he He's new to this.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
That's how he can ride the things I.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Would say during the super Bowl. And it happened during
the super Bowl. Remember I told you at our hotel,
I walked the hotel. Now I'm like, cannle a ton
lass dude, damn kr uh, it's gonna be my thing
is It's just that you goulda have to give up
(40:01):
so much to get it. They're gonna want I mean
if he goes to Miami. Oh yo, who do you
think they're gonna want? Are you gonna give up Hero?
You're gonna give up Bam, you'll give up hot? What
hot smith?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Hot? With the hot smith? How which one is it?
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Probably probably probably Tyler?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
No, they ain't thet dy ain'tive him Tyler Hero. Well,
they got scared Terry Rogier. They gonna probably want to
get up off him because he's dealing with the he's
dealing with the stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
With the gambling and all that. He's been injured. Mmm,
that's tough pay.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Pat Dobs said, Oh, you better not let Stephen a
slide at the next mester might and lose the third
seed to the Pacers Celtics back to back.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Oh no, he already know, he already know. I see
his ass this week.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Oh he better not and we go and we mess right,
because if I think we played, uh we played Houston tomorrow, right,
Houston tomorrow and then Portland on Sunday. All we gotta
do is win one game. We got third seed locked up.
It's on for him.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Oh he ain't sliding.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Pat generation Ozimpic Olympic Luca is prolific. Sheldon pope KD
is going to be looking for a team. O Jo
can see KD and your city player for the Heat.
What's the pitch O joking? You can sell KT to
come to Miami and play, And I.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Mean it's Miami. Miami. Is Miami a place like here?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I think if we get we can get pat Riley
to take a back seat and not try to be
the enforcer in the ruler of always that.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, the Miami.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
He was in the midst of a twenty seven game
winning streat and to cert his power, he took cookies
that he knew Lebron James was looking for. Does that
strike you as a guy that's willing to see anything.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, you're right, You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
But if we if we here, Heat Nation want to
get back to our winning ways, we need someone like
Kevin Durant to come in here and just give us
a chance.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
I'm not you need to pat Riley to stop trying
to assert his power.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Well, we need Mickey Harrison need to talk to him. Then,
Mickey need to say something.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I mean, pat has an ownership state.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
It got Mickey and his son are the major and
his family are the majority owner.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
You have a percentage in there that happen
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