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The Magic beat the Celtics ninety five ninety three. Franz
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Wagner was dominant thirty two points, seven rebounds, eight assists,
and he did it. He's guarding JB and JT as
they pull. It's now two to one. With another game
in Orlando, Jason Tatum was ten of twenty two thirty
six points, nine rebounds, four sis Derreck White sixteen points,
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Jaylen Brown nineteen points. But those big gun Apolo ban
Caro twenty nine points. Franz Vagner gave you his stat
thirty two, seven and eight wind the Carter Junior had
ten points, ten rebounds as they hold on and win.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Joe, what'd you like about what you saw from Orlando?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Like I said, Wagner and ben Carro they can and
Brown they give match Tatum and Brown. And when Tatum
and Brown ain't got poisinga is a preitcher going off?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You know, it's it's it's it's tough. You know. Peyton
Pritcheck he won six.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Man out of the yen and he didn't really he
didn't give him nothing today, you know, twenty three points,
you know, chasing Tatum man at thirty six to nine.
But man, they need they need probably a little more
from JB and preacherd or wife. You know they look
forward to him getting getting getting hot. But what's up
with Drew Holliday.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
What do you hurt? I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
They were nineers twenty seven from the three. And that's
the thing with the Celtics. It's hard for them win
if they don't shoot you out the gym from the three,
because a lot of their game is predicated on taking
a bunch of threes and making a bunch of them.
So we'll take fifty, we'll take fifty five, sixty three,
then we can make twenty two to twenty three of them.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
We like our chances.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
They're not very many teams that can consistently match the
Celtics from the three point line. They took the most,
they made the most threes in NBA history, and their
record is a.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Speaks for itself.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Uh And I think that's what makes them tough, because
you you you're right.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
They got JB, they got a JT.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
They also have a prisingles that you give you mid twenties,
maybe even thirty. You see Derek Waking go off. He
can make seven, eight, nine, ten threes. Peyton Pritchell, we
see Peyton Prince is going forty point forty points in
the ball game. So they got guys that can go
fuego and get hot and shoot.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
You out of the building.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's gonna be uh, it's gonna be very interesting to
see what the uh what the matchup is. Jalen Brown says,
the refs are letting the Magic play too physical. There
might be a fight breakout of something because they's starting
to feel like it's not even basketball and the refs
are not controlling their environment. So it is what it is.
If you want to fight out there, we can do that.
We can fight to see what goals in the second round.
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Do you like what JB having to say? Joe, I do?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I do?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I like what he got to say. I mean, they
competing at a high level. Man, Like I say, this
is physical basketball at this point. The only thing that's
gonna change in any of these games is the physicality.
I mean, it's like guys being physical, not letting you
cut to the to the rim ojo. You know everything
you do, Yeah, you know, we're gonna touch you. It's
gonna be physical. We're not gonna let you do nothing easy.
We're gonna create traffic and cause discomfort. And that's what
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Orlando was doing. Look, I like to see Ben Carroll
and Wagner shooting twenty five and twenty seven field goals
even though he made ten eleven. But that lets me
know they being they being aggressive going to the rim,
and they gonna cause pressure, you know what I mean, Well,
guy's gotta help now they can get guys easy shots.
Boston got they work cut out, man, Boston got that. Yeah,
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got a series, don Yeah. I think the thing you
plus Joe is that I like because they should take
half the death shot. They're the two best playoff. Whych
somebody else try to whych somebody else try to pitch
in and say, hey man, y'all take twenty five, y'all
take twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Let me get at hell, no on the team.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But you see that, But you see that from time
to time, like now we're in the playoffs, every possession
is valued, and the guys are taking their initiative to
come down, initiate the offense, getting you know, whether it's
running iso post ups or just you know, getting it
too the paint, you know, just causing havoc.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Uh. It's gonna make them a better team. And they
making Boston guard.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Like I tell you, Boston already complaining that that that
that the series has been too physical. You look, j
T went down with a risk injury in Game one,
then playing game two now, Jake, I've seen JD go
down with a little injury today.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Too, So this is how it's gonna be for the
rest of the series.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
They understand being physical is in their favor, meaning you know,
Flando and plus and plus hold on, hold on with
and plus. JB was in foul trouble a little bit
of the night too. I think that and help their situation.
But when you dealing with Ban Carroll, who's a big
body guy, he likes to play fiscal. He's a buffer
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car type of guy. He gonna bang you and bang
you and bang you and get to that right shoulder
and turn and turn around on Yougner.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Is a skilled and skill he can play. Now. The
problem that they had this year, I think they had
a better record.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Ban Carrol got hurt, Wagner got hurt and summertimes sometimes
that those injuries overlap. But if you go back and
look at them when they play together, Oh they for
real tho, those young guns, for real. I love Ban Carrol,
he can really you know, Wagner his.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Brother is hurt.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know he was, he was early in the year,
like they you know, they down a major piece.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But man, are they scrappy. Bro.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
They create they Look I seen, I seen little Anthony
Black pick Peyton Pritschler of full court pick his pocket.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know what I mean? Like now, oh, Joe, as
soon as the ball come in ninety four feet, I'm
right at your nick, I'm pressure you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Hey, it's a playoffs, man, it's what's about. So look,
Orlando is competing at a high level. They gonna protect
their home, and they gonna make it tough for Boston. Man,
they's gonna be no easy series.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Hold on, hold on, you say it's not gonna be
an easy series if they continue to be scrappy, if
they continue to play physical. Do you even give the
Magic a chance to beat or even win this series
or you're just saying he's just gonna make it close to.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, I seen, They're gonna make it close and interesting.
I can't see him beating yeah in seven games, but
I can, I can. I can see Boston winning four two. Yeah, yeah,
I can see that.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh, so you just you're just giving the Magic two
games even with the way they playing.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, but what I'm saying, but I think Boston is
the better team. Yeah, and normally the better team it
will play out over a series.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
That's that's what you get it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And when you talk about when you play series, you
gotta be somebody four times. It's not like blackball is
one and done and sometimes one the best team doesn't
always win.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
But the team that plays the best that day. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I for me, I think I could see be very
interested how this thing shape up. Now, Orlando, get that
get game, get that game. And now they go back
to Boston to too, put the pressure on Boston.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah yeah, oh under the.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Pressure, Adam that that didn't make an interesting the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
First time in Milwaukee Bucks history they had two players
scored thirty five points or more. They got thirty seven,
a career high playoff from Greg Gary Trent Junior knock
down nine three pointers, matching Ray Allens Bucks record of nine.
Jannis was Jannis. He gave you thirty seven. He was
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thirty seven, twelve and six. Gary Trent Junior was thirty
seven and with three rebounds nor assists. They're like, bro,
I'm just gonna shoot it. I ain't helping nobody else
get it. Get your own basket. Hey, listen, go ahead, Joe.
They no go ahead.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They needed any bit at their thirty seven for good Trent.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, see my problem with Milwaukee is, you know
Dame coming out with this CAF injury, man, he not
gonna be able to play at no high level for
no you know, I think by having him out there
is just a decour. But you know, he can get high,
he can make some shots. But I think with the
cap injuries limiting him to you know how, he's ultimately
gonna be able to perform or help you know, Milwaukee
move on in this series.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So Gared Shane, he won this game for him to
night man, he was, he was on fire. He was,
he was.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And plus if you look at Indy when they don't
have their start, all their starters normally their starters somewhere
between twelve and twenty five twenty six points, and then
they have a guy too off the bench in double figures.
Look they got Pascal Siakam has been playing where aaron
Y Smith at eighteen miles. Turner only gave us six.
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He normally gives you somewhere between fourteen and twenty. Nem
Hard only gave you six. He normally in double figures.
Over topping he gave you ten plays. He didn't play
bad and didn't you well from the three, So Matt Burn,
he only gave you nine. And so that you're gonna
open yourself up if you guys don't play like you
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normally play, and you'll get a situation where you get Yanni's.
They don't have anybody that can do anything with Yanni's,
but they'll let you. Can't let your head tread, Junior,
go get thirty seven because now you allow Giannis to
bring somebody along with him. Janni's had seven assists. Remember
the other the other time he had like one or
two assists. You see, when he gets you thirty six
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twelve and he dishes out seven or more assists, you
have your hand for it because they can beat you.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, I need Hallibert to be a little more aggressive
for in them though eleven field goal attempts, you know,
Dame little hobble, I mean, you gotta make him work
on both ends of the floor.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Outside that Miles turning in. I mean one for nine.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That hurt him. That's that, Yeah, for sure, that hurt him.
But yeah, y Is gonna need somebody to step up.
You know, pretty much every game, you know, you'll is
gonna get thirty five forty points a night, getting Trent
Junior gonna be able to hold this up, or if
dan't gonna give us one of them, you know, virtual
Oso's performances. But man a hey, he gonna need some help.
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But I like the bench though. I like you know,
Bobby coming off with that. You know, he's pretty much
fine tune now because he's been absent for a while.
He just got back with the team. So, uh, I
feel like the Bucks can make this a series for sure. Yeah,
I agree, don't tell us a lot big about to
get They better. They better get Game four because if
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they don't get Game four, they're not gonna go to
Indian win.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, I got him. I got him getting Game four.
I got him.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Cause Milwaukee got didn't get anything from Brook Lopez. As
you mentioned, Dame was two or twelve one of from three.
He gave you seven points toward your prints. He only
played three minutes. He gave you ten points. Jericho Sims
played four points. Kevin Porter Jr. Oh Five, he gave
you one point. Green gave you twelve. But it was
it was it was the big gun. It was Giannis
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at the top. And true and Junior at the bottom
and uh really not much the sandwich in between.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
But they were able to build a billy because.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
When I turned when I started watching the game, uh
Andy was up by ten. Yeah yeah, I turned back
and out there down by ten. I'm like, well, what
the hell happened?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
And I y'all talked about this game.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I was on that.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I was on, hey, you missed a good game. Which
it was a good game. It was a good game. Uh,
I don't know. Milwaukee needed this, bro. They needed some
confidence because Indiana. Yeah, you know what I mean. They
need confidence going in the game four down and trying
to really make this decion going back to Indiana tied up.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You know, like I said, hopefully Dame gets better, you know,
day by day.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And he said, you know, probably give him a little
more offensively, because man, they jan is gonna definitely need
him for sure. Uh. Dylan Brooks called Draymond Green a
dirty player and defended his teammate Men Thompson, who up
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ended Jimmy Butler in Game two, forcing him to leave
the game due to injury. No, I think dirty player
is Draymond giving him a little push as the regular
basketball players do, and Jimmy's fighting in the air for
a rebound and stuff happens. A man is not a
dirty player and he has nothing to do, and it
has nothing to do with Big a dirty player. Jimmy
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is questionable for Game two, Joe. I know you saw
the play. It seems like Jimmy's going up for a ball.
He got both hands on the ball somehow Aman Thompson
losing his balance submarines him and with nothing to bring.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Back five.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
That's that's that's that good.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But that's that good bone bring.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
They're gonna take a minute for him to recover from that. Look,
I don't think it was a dirty player. I think
a man. Thompson was just playing hard, competing. He was
trying to get in there and just call us and
make a play and end up got getting pushed, you know,
kind of into like Jimmy Butler, which kind of took
him out. And it's like, dang, It's like it's like
the little sting can happen in the playoffs man, the
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Swinger series, you know what I mean. And the boys
without Jimmy, Man, it's gonna be tough, man, It's gonna
be tough, you know against the Rockets team. Hey, look,
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a fight or
wrestling match out this series, right, I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Actually, there's a lot of borderline stuff going on out
there in the first couple of games.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
O Joe, Yeah, Hey, they got they got damn Draymond
at Drake Dramond funny, funny man.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
He scrappy, He's scrappy with it. You don't care what
he's finna, He's finna get it in every time.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah. I like that look. And that's that's the thing
about it, Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You keep saying, is that it's the finality of it,
because there is no more tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, we lost to Orlando, We down to Miami. Then
we're gonna hit Atlanta, right, and you know what I'm saying,
We're gonna go to Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Ain't none of that. You lose these four games and
it's over. It's over. You see, your season's over.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And you know you go in to Cancun or whatever
whatever you do before you start, you know, before you
start back, getting ready for the grind of some of them, Well,
you guys not playing something league before you start the
preseason games before you get back into the regular season
come October. So guys gonna play hard. Guys are gonna
play extremely hard. And I don't really I don't really
have no problem with that now me neither I enjoy it, actually,
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But that is why it's been a lot of injuries
pretty much. You know, throughout this postseason, guys are competing
at a high level.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Bro. You look at the you know, maybe we'll get
to a the mephis game. What happened? The job will
go ahead. Yeah, Jimmy is questionable for Game three.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
John Moran will miss Game four against this thunder Jah
injured this hip after taking a hard fall doing Game
three down three oh in the series, Grizzlies face elimination
without their best playmaker, their best player, and the twenty
twenty four to twenty five season could be over. Late
in the second quarter on Thursday, was up by twenty
seven when Scotti Pip Scottie Pippen Junior dropped off a
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past to Morat on the fast break. Lou Dort was chasing, Pipping,
slipped as he turned over and crashed into airborne Morat.
A lot of people said it was dirty and a
lot of people said, Dort slipped Joe.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You saw this play accident slippage dirty. I think he slipped, man.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
He was anticipating on going up for the block on pipping,
but he caught itself because he you know, caught the
drop back to Joe and he just slipped. Man, he slipped,
and you know, Joh went up obviously and came down
with a crash land. And it's very unfortunate because I
had defis winning that game. They had total control of
the game. Oh yeah, yeah, yeahyeah. They was up back
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at that point by twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And the one thing that's very glad to me, you know,
I look at game one, myf it was so it
was like they was flat. You know, they ain't really
had Anhey guy, blow out by fifty something points. Okay, cool?
Game two, John come back. You see how aggressive he is.
I need him shooting at least twenty five shots. I
don't care if he don't make but six or seven
or eight of them. But the fact that he's then
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aggressive pressure on him. He puts pressure on him to
where you can open up and give bangs, easy threes
or easy you know, kick out for threes. A Jim
or big fellow JJ had been edie. You know, the
way you can throw lives to those guys. They cannot
stay in front of the jib. And he has to
know that, man, he has to know that. You know,
he got to go into that AI mode to where
he's just oht your aggressive, relentless and getting to the cups,
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putting the pressure on the referees to call or you know,
for him to make plays because he's a talented man,
and they'll be a better team, you know, the more
aggressive he is. But this is gonna be a game.
They was gonna win this game. Scotty Pipple Jr. Gave
him that that kick that he needed and you can
tell he was starting to find this rhythm and uh, man,
just unfortunate, you know incident.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know throughout the game, what you thinking out Joe
dirty play?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Nah, he was falling on we were dirty, especially something
like that. I mean, I think all I think all
NBA players have respect for each other. And then I
know it's a playoffs and know everybody's playing physical. But
you can see it if you watch it again, especially
if you're watching it in slow motion, you can see
it as an accident and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I would I would have liked you know what they do.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You know what I don't like that NBA players do.
And Simmary, when the picture hits a batter with the ball.
You see how you showed no emotion, no apologies, no nothing.
He just just turns. He's just very nonchalant. I wish
he was a little bit more, you know what. I'm sorry,
at least help him up. He just turned turned away
and just and just walk away like they.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Play off basketball. But we're not helping you up. We're
not doing none of that.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, I see that, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So so when he when he when he when, when
he reacts like that, it makes it look as if okay,
I did it on purpose and.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
What right, Listen, we're not giving up, no layers, none
of them playing shit dunks. Now, We're gonna try nothing,
cheat nothing, see, but we ain't trying to actually just
hurt you, you know what I mean? But yeah, yeah, yeah,
you can't come to here just old laying.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, when you don't show no kind of remorse, especially
like that understanding you're undercutting by accident, you didn't mean
to do it, but like no, no nothing, no eye
contact though, just just come.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
On man, yeah, hey, oh, try I tell you a story. Uh.
We were in the locker room in one of the coaches.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Uh, spilled a drink in one of the guy's locker
and he came in, man.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Or the hell spilled the drink in my locker.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Man, the dude say, hey, look, d Russ, I spilled
the soda in your locker. I'm sorry that. That's the
end of that. Now what were you saying? Hey, I'm sorry.
At the end of it, I go back and forth
to do all this ohing. That was the players say, hey, man,
look I did it. I'm sorry that. At the end
of that, I get you. Hey, y'all hit him up.
He ain't my teammate. I ain hitping his ass up
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right right right right. I got it, I got I
got I got it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Oh Joe Joe one.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Moon personally unretires the number one for cam War Pro
Football Hall of Famer Warren Moon, currently the only blank
quarterback in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, gave up
his number one. Famous Number one, gave him blessing and
allowed cam Ward to wear the jersey previously retired by
the Titans. Recently said it would consider giving this blessing
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the war toward the digit. I'm thinking nobody said Moon
would ask if he would allow permission to give Ward
the number to Ward should wound?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Should Warren have felt pressure to do this?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
On joke, I wouldn't say pressure. But cam Ward is special.
Cam Ward is a special player.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
He's obviously he's coming to He's coming to the Titans.
And why not continue that legacy? Why not continue that
legacy that Warren Moon set, you know when he was
there and allowed Cam to carry that torch on, you know,
wearing the number one as a new franchise quarterback, hopefully
for the next decade or so.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I like it.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
It's a dope move. It's a dope movie.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I wonder if I would if Cam even neew you
didn't care? Yeah, okay, okay, that have been a dope surprise.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Just I want to ask Joe, Joe, you got your
number retired? Somebody come in and they want to wear that,
They want to wear Joe? They would what you doing Joe? Yeah,
I'm I'm I'm doing it if it's special?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
You know what I mean? He number one? Pick he
been weighing the number one?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Uh, you know, shout out to o g for you know,
taking out the rafts, let young boy take off with it.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, I ain't. I mean, I don't got EGO come
to that.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Hold on, hold on, uncle Joe. We ain't just giving
anybody that number. You got to be that boy. Yeah,
and cam Ward is that boy. So it's understandable that's
someone you know what majority number retire.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
But for him, oh yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I relief. Our relief was stack Joe. You had seven numbers?
Were you always seven? Joke? Nah, man, I wouldn't number
two because what were you weren't seven? I phinny, No,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Look I wore Uh, I just I just got seven
when I got the Brookland But coming up, like through
junior high, high school, and college, I wore number twenty four.
So I got to the pros, I got drafted by Boston.
They ain't got no numbers. Yeah, every number they got
big numbers, forty four, fifty five. You can't get no
Siger didn know for twenty four. After question, man, they
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got so many numbers of the time. So look the
only number they had that I could get with thirty one.
So I rocked with thirty one. Now you're at Corporated Backs. Well, Jersey,
that's my guy going brand ain't. Look I'm in the
raft because I after have Boston Man thirty one. Look
when I get traded to Phoenix, I'm trying to get
twenty four, but I'm playing with Tom Googliata. Tom Goglada
got twenty four, so I ain't even ask for the
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two four. You can gon keep it right, I just
gonna I'm just gonna roll with this too. So I've
been rocking with number two all the way through Atlanta,
and then when I got to Brooklyn, I just changed
it up and went to seven. Okay, yeah, okay, I'm like, damn,
Joe Joe had but hey, they couldn't fire Jordan's like
what Joe Jordan two?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Twenty four thirty one? Right?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Hey said man, I wanted one of them single digits
in Boston.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Well, like when we getting drafted, I'm like, okay, what
number can I get? Can I get number twenty four?
They started showing me all the numbers that was retired.
I'm like, oh no.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
They got Sam Jones, Jones, hinst Russell, Bird, Jennis Johnson,
they got Bob Coosey, they got Bill Sharmon.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
He retires on me numbers day.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I said, man, they got they got double z ro retired,
they got what's the color retired? They got Kevin McHale,
so you yeah, they got double z roll thirty two,
thirty three. I think Dennis Johnson. I think DJ was three.
Yeah he was yeah. Yeah, they got DJ.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, they got DJ retired.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
They got Sam Jones, Casey Jones, Hamla check Cowen's. Anytime
you have to Boston Arena, y'all look up in the
raft thirty one.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Up there, baby, there's a nice old Joe. Baby, we
sharing that thing.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's my man. You already know that's my man. Cord
bread ah Man. Very very touching, but heartbreaking story. Dereck
Harmon's mother, who had been on life support, sadly passed
away after he arrived at the hospital and told her
he had been drafted by the Steelers. My thoughts and
prayers go out to Derek Harmon and his family and
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all those loved ones that were impacted by this tragic passing.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Man, that's an unbelievable story. Think about it. Old Joe.
He arrives at the hospital. Mom, I don't know if
you can hear it. I finally did it.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
But your baby has been drafted to the Steelers and
later that night, that.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Is that's that's an unbelievable story.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
For mom to be able to hear that and understanding
at that point, my job is done. Yep, I can transition.
I've done all I can, all the sacrifices, all the
all the the the hurdles, the obstacles that I've had
to make to ensure that you made it to this point,
and that is you got drafted.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
All I just I just needed to hear it. I
just need to hear it.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Now.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I'm at peace.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I mean, hey, she she wanted to hear that and
once she hears that, she could go rest peacefully. And
he wanted to be able to deliver that message to
tell is ma, Mom, you did it everything that you
know what we went through and what you told me
and how you reared me.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Hey, go rest easy, Mama, go risk easy.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Also, I want to send out a very heartfelt hopefully
he gets well soon. Elijah Alex's at Arenas Gilbert Arena
Sun was in a car accident. He's doing it is
being reported that he's doing much better. I said Gila
a text. He said, Hey, he's gonna be okay. But
that was so sad. I could not believe it that
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this had happened. And man, you know, we had Gail
here and Gil's a great guy. He's doing unbelievable job
on guil Arenas with his with his crew shot out Gil.
But I just want you to know that the Nightcap
family and everybody over here and everybody's in the chair.
I want to send our thoughts and prayers to you,
hopefully your family, and uh, Elijah is doing a lot
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better now, and so we're praying for speedy recovery. So
we can see what he's gonna do at USC. So
we don't know, but it done or he maybe he
got two. You know, this is a very serious injury.
They put him in an induced coma. Hopefully he's resting comfortably.
And uh, Dale, I know you by the side. I
know you you were the worried, but you know you
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you you sent me that you thought everything was gonna
be okay. So I just wanted to send out our
thoughts and prayers to you and your family. Elijah speed
speedy recovery.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I talked to him too, he said he told me
he didn't have those serious injuries.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So okay, let's do.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Good for the jag If the Jags I drafted your door.
I called the Steelers and tell them I need three
first rounders for Trevor Lawrence, and I started the franchise
fresh with Brian Thomas, Travis Hunter, and Shoulder Sanders.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh show you like that? I do? I do?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I mean, listen, I mean it's not gonna happen. Obviously,
three one for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Oh, you will get at least too. Okay, you will
get at least and another high draft pick.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Hey, but hey, that's that. Oh that will be ken
your match? Them two back together and Duvall.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Like that?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
No, No, I don't. I don't think they will.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
That's a great that's a great hypothetically do I like it?
And that's but that stadium and that's duvall Man Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Gonna be rocking. Who he'll be rocking? We'll find out. Uh,
but y'all agree with you? Oh, Joe, I don't think
that's gonna happen, all right, don't Joe. We're gonna get
it out of here on this when this is your last.
This is our last segment, even it's tied for Q
(30:08):
and a Q and A Lee fridd just said, what
is going on with Sanders? Why are they doing them
like this? Why must they treat black players like this?
And can we change this? Uh for future players?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Nope? Oh Joe, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I get it because people look at Archie and Archie
basically said, my son is not playing in San Diego.
I do not want my son in the AFC. Now,
this is what's gonna happen. And they see, you know,
he ends up, They end up selecting, they trade him
to the Giants. Chargers select him, trading to the Giants.
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The Giants select Philip Rivers, they get another first round pick. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I get it. I get it. Yeah, it's just tough.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's just tough to see a guy that's ready this
high and fall all the way out of the first
three rounds. So yeah, I don't know what it is.
I don't know what it is. All I know is
that what I saw, what my eyes told me. He
had an unbelievable college career.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
His two years.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
He was sensational at at CEU, thirty seven touchdowns over
four thousand yards seventy plus seventy what seventy four percent,
seventy hot, mid seventy or low seventy atleation percentage.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
No, But to answer your question, ain't nothing we can
do because we're not in a position of selecting the players.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
JJ Carr said, My Saints passed over Sanders.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Meilro Will Howard, Q quinn, yours, Dylan Gabriel just to
draft the quarterback. Been injured every year, like car is
it April fool all month long. I'm surprised because, okay,
they need a quarterback cover the injury with Derek Carr.
We don't know if he's gonna be able to play,
if he if it's gonna be start to see it
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in the middle of season, or if he's gonna be
able to play. They don't make a quarterback in the
first round, you go to say, okay, but the second
round they don't.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
And now like the third you take they will over.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
They will remind you at any given chance where they
feel you're getting out of line.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Man, it's gotta be more than that. Man, it's gotta
be No.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
I ain't no, no, it ain't ain't no more than that.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
It ain't no more trust me, ain't no more than that,
Because there's there's We're going to humble you.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
If you don't want to do it your own, we're
gonna do it for you. If you don't want to
do it on your own, we will do it for you.
That's all. That's that's, that's it.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Samuel Samuel Griffin. Should the tire Titans draft your door
and copy Washington did with RG three and Cousins? Could
the forty nine ers be a good fit for your door? No,
because you're about to play Brock party. Why did you
pay a quarterback two hundred plus million dollars and then
draft a quarterback?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
No, I don't think Titan's gonna do that because I
think the Titans.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
The Titans really like Cam, and cam style is not
like RG three's. RG three was a scrambling quarterback, which
leads to guys being injured.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Right, so you got away the options.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Okay, here's a guy that has a style that could
potentially lead to him getting injured. So no, I don't
think the Titan's gonna do what Washington did. And no,
I don't think the forty nine ers are a good
fit for your door, Freakie rod Riguez. Listen, this is
why your door hasn't been drafted number one. He's only
been coached by his father. Teams don't know if he
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can adapt to a new coaches, a coach at a
gym on the hot seat, nos Dion is on deck.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
What'd you think, go, Joe? I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I like that, and I love and in regards to
where he goes. If things aren't going well, especially as
a team collectively, the rumors will start to swirl about
Prime at some point coming to the NFL to coach
to coach sha Door. Now I understand, I think, and
also I think some teams are or are scared of
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the power and and and what they bring, you know,
with with that last name. And that's just something you
have to deal with. There there are other players that
are just as polarizing. Uh maybe the don't carry that
much weight, you know, as as a family unit as one,
but I mean it's it's it's just scaring some of
the teams. But still you understand what you get. You
understand what you get as a player. You know, it's
(34:50):
your door. So it's it's confusing to me when you
turn the film on and you watch the tape, and
I've watched the tape on all the other quarterbacks that
have that have gone before him, and it's it's mind.
And I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with any the
quarterbacks that have gotten drafted. You know, kudos to them.
You know this is obviously you live in a childhood
dream of yours. But I mean, like, come on, man.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You think, uh, you know, that's probably one of the
reasons he's not getting drafted because you know they think
they think them coming in to replace him. Well, I
think the thing is is that the only voice he's
really heard is his father's voice from the time he
started playing football.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
His father's coached him every step of the way.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
What is what about the eye test, because it's certain
things that with certain cants they not gonna they're not
gonna test well when it comes to agility and all
that strength training. I agree, But when you got him
out there on the court or the field of way,
on the field, they know how to make plays.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think some of that stuff you can't account for,
Like just watching film ain't gonna do it, or just
going to watch him throw that's not gonna show, you
know what he can do.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
In between the lines, you know, when when he gets
on the field. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Oh, Joe, Charlie Warred won the Heisman and didn't get drafted.
Did you remember you remember that?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Right? Oh Joe, that's right, you remember that, right, That's right?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, Okay, I'm just understand. So it's not like now
a lot of people are gonna say, well, Charlie had
told him that, you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Blah, gona go play in the NBA. NBA. Yeah, but
ain't nobody gonna take a flyer? Hey?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Uh Bo Jackson told Tampa that if you select me,
I'm gonna go play baseball. They took him number one overall,
so that you're not gonna tell us what we gonna
not gonna do.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Now. They ended up t that pick to the to
the Raiders. But I'm just saying you rested.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
So Hugh, Hugh corver House, who used to be the
owner of Tampa Bay Both was the best player.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
He said, if you draft me, Tampa, because they had done.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
You know, ruined a lot of other players they had,
Tampa was not very good.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You select me, I'm gonna go play baseball.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
With the first pick, Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Vincent bo Jackson.
You gotta be a bad boy, hey, to get selected
first and then don't want to play for them. I'm
just gonna go over there and play baseball. I ain't
doing I ain't fool which I an't. CJ got sins saying, Shaannon,
(37:16):
this can't be a race thing with your doer. Uh.
The Titans drafted Cam number one overall. Don't you know,
it's a personality thing. To be honest with you, c J,
I don't know what it is what we're trying to do.
We're trying to say, hey, we threw the personality out.
We threw Uh does he have a pre existing condition?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
What what I mean? Does he have this? Yeah, we don't.
I don't see J. I'm gonna be honest with you.
I don't know. I haven't talked the time. I'm sure
at some point in time I'll get around and I'll
sit down to that. O't ass time time. What you
think happened?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
But I don't know. Yeah, that's puzzling.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Bro, never happened ever in the history.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Doctor jan Hye said, black confidence is scared to them.
They hate that.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
They can't break his confidence in himself. And they rich,
and he's already rich. They can't hold money over him.
Free black Men is America's nightmare.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Listen, I read it just I read it earlier. I
don't know if you heard what I read earlier.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
But hey, you can't he go back to school. Nope,
he got an agent.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
If if you don't NFL, don't play that once you
declared for the draft, it's good night.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
That is it.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
JJ said, Oh, Lakers got to stop turning the ball over.
I agree, turn the ball over. Those young guys get
out and easy, get easy buckets on you. I agree,
they definitely, JJ need to stop turning that ball over.
If lebron knew how close the game out there would
have won, thirty eight points means nothing. If you sink
a cance, if he sink they in clutch last five minutes,
(38:56):
he ghosted, look fatigue buck Yeah, I don't see.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I mean, you're asking a forty year old.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I mean, how many forty years old forty year olds
have ever made the playoffs, let alone score thirty eight.
You're asking the man forty one minutes. Forty one minutes
he gave you ten rebounds. So he's really exerting himself
because he gotta get on the glass. He's going, I mean,
he's what, he's thirteen to twenty one from the field,
five to nine from the three point line.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
An playing defense just needed a little help to know,
you just needed a little more help.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Kendrick Clemings funk. Can't say Lakers or five?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Oh no two thousand six, Brad No Leakers at five?
See y'all, Oh, y'all want to pile along? We got
something you now, ts car washing detailed service, Clippers winning
at all till we fall. Don't give a cot, don't
give count. Kawhi the ball. Kawhi is playing unbelievable. Why
was playing numb believable? He's healthy, he got that mini going.
(40:03):
And when he gets that mini going, and then you
combine that with his ability to shoot the three.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Oah.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
He tough to deal with, man, He tough to on
top of Henna, get you still.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
You got James Harden playing at a high level too.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
You get both of them dudes going the way they've
been playing the past few games, past couple of games.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And Zoo Box give you a double double every night. Yeah,
and zoobox.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
They just got a bunch of guys chipping in man
doing a little dirty work. And uh and and really
they I mean Game three, it wasn't even no game
for real.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
They have no start to finish pretty much.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Sir Kates, my guys, is Doc gone after the season
if the Buck loses? And will the Dolphins eventually get
fed up and trade Tyreek if he keeps up with
these trade antics.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I don't know. Did he say something on Joe? Did
he say something today about being traded or did?
Speaker 5 (40:52):
I didn't hear anything. Everything's been draft covers for me,
so I didn't see anything. Any Any current players have said.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Uh Doc because he gets fired that the Bucks get
get bounced in the first round, Joe, I think, uh yeah,
I think they're gonna make some changes. If they lose
in the first round, they gonna make some changes. I
know Dame bigg hurt, but I think they probably gonna
give up on that. Joannis and Dame man if if
they can't get past these Pacers, well.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Dame really never wanted to go there anyway.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Dame wanted to go to Miami, Yeah yeah, but Nami
didn't want to give up the package. Uh, that it
was gonna take in order for them to get Dame.
You know, pat right, pat Rowdy tried to man pat
Rod always tried to strong arm somebody. Well, we're gonna
give you this. Now, you're not gonna give us. No, no, no, no,
you don't have to give us no pieces.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
This is what we want. Take it or leave it.
You called us, We didn't call you. Yeah, Hey, you're
gonna try to get what he can get. He trying
to make it. He trying to make the deal right
for himself. Man for the Heat.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
He ain't studying that. Yeah, And I ain't trying to
help the Heat. I'm not trying to help the Heat.
Me title contenders, So give me what I want or
kick rocks right, Yeah, rich clever, Joe, I've been rocking
with you. It was go to Joe much love Nightcap.
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Speaker 2 (42:19):
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I always get a unique special feeling driving through the
skyline because my brain knows I'm home.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
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Speaker 2 (42:30):
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You too quick, Devo can't catch you. Oh jo in five,
Devo can't see you. That's what he meant, see my bad.
That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for
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(45:01):
oh four. Lebron James has thirty eight, but it wasn't
enough to overcome Jade McDaniels thirty and Man's twenty nine
and Julius Randalls twenty two as they win one sixteen
to one oh four to take a two to one lead.
And uh the Sdor Sanders slides. He doesn't go in
the first two days. Now, let's see if he goes
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rounds four through seven. The Orlando Magic's defeat the Boston
Celtics ninety five ninety three. Thanks to Polo ban Caro
and Franz Wagner, they win ninety five ninety three. It's
a two to one series. Boston are still in front,
and the Milwaukee Bucks get on the board. Now it's
two to one inding thanks to thirty seven from Giannis
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and thirty seven from Gary Trent Junior as they win
one seventeen to one oh one.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
That concludes nightcap. I'm up. That's old Joe. That's a right,
So Joe, we will see you tomorrow. Thank you for
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Speaker 1 (46:00):
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