Nightcap - Hour 2: Pacman Jones, Shawne Merriman, James Harrison - Nightcap

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Speaker 4 (02:24):
May Pack, bring your ass on, Pack.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
What's up? Don't cheay that? No, he hadn't booked in
the bathroom. Now he ain't lake this time? He lake?
Now he ain't lake this time? All right?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Joining us on the nightcap set if Adam pac Man, Joe,
you go by Adam and you go by Pack.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I go by Pack. You ain't ever call me Adam.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
But but we were told, like what I when it's
on television, they say, he don't want to be called
pac Man anymore, and he wants to be called Adam.
I say, sing when I just saw it this end
in the barbershop to go, Hey, everybody was calling the Pack.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Ain't nobody ever called the battle.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I don't know what what coach and Marvin was thinking
about when he said that to the media. I think
that was a sum with him that had nothing to
do with me. All right, Pack, you down here at
the Super Bowl. You know the two teams thirty of
the Super Bowl, the Chiefs and the Eagles. How do
you see this match up playing out? I just I
can't two teams are competitible. But Andy Reed, having two

(03:31):
weeks to prepare for this game, it's gonna be hard
to beat Andy Reed.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Andy Reed have a motherfucker wide open.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I mean the other week when he had they was
in the trans formation to the right, single back, I mean,
single receiver.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
To the left side. He sent the two of.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
The emotions just to see what they was in man
and then he ran to little play with the pick
out the back back back the.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Linebacker gonna make that play?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
He can't.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
There's no way. You what uthing man? You late?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
And they sat on this play for the entirety of
the game. They did not very looking And Joe and
I talked about this. They are not very many coaches,
and that situation is gonna throw the ball because you're
gonna stop the clock. If that clock stops, now, you
give them an opportunity to get the ball back with
a chance to go down and tie you or beat you,
he says Patrick. And we saw this last year against

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the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
He said.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Even valdel Scaler, who had dropped several passes during the
regular season, he threw the ball on third down thirty
plus yards down the field. That's the kind of confidence
that Andy has in Won five and confidence is well placed.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
And man, you can look at them last week and
looked at them four weeks.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Ago when they didn't have Worthy, they didn't have Chuck O.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Now they all healthy and Worthy is man, he got
better fun like he he is.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's one of the guys that ain't nobody talking about
that can be MVP. That's why I told you, Remember
I told you earlier. You never know who they is
gonna be.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
When you watch the Chiefs all season long, every time
they play, it's always.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Somebody else dare.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Like you watch the Bangles play, you know it's gonna
be chased half the time, ninety percent the time you.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Watch the Chiefs play. Ain't no telling who day it's
gonna be. One day is Worthy, one days Kelsey, one
day it's nowhere great. So depending what the Eagles do
this game, well it's gonna be exciting.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Uh, well andyy doesn't play them already, don't beat them
already one yeah? Like so I don't know, man, I
just I cannot see Andy reed, because if the Chiefs
Louise Andyyfaul.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
That's how I'm looking at it.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
But and don't lose but pack.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
If you look at it, this defense is different than
what they brought to the Super Bowl. They got Jalen Carter,
they got I think Davis was there, was there, No, Yeah,
he was there the last time they played. But if
you look at Zach Bron who's playing unbelievable. Look at Mitchell, Yeah,
you got the Cooper de jen and it's that. It's

(05:56):
that two six, the all world running back that they
have now can hit his head on the goal post
and we've seen it from anywhere on the field.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Pack.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
This is a unique package that the Eagles didn't have
last time when they came to the Super Bowl to
face the Chiefs than what they have now. Of course,
it is starting with Saquin like I see him last night,
Like he's definitely the MVP man when you could run
full speed and turn around, jump back or somebody bro
like that's a holloway whoever that I forget who it was.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
But you're gonna be on that lot. Dagonuld always be seeing.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
And that offensive line they got is by far the
best that we've seen as a group together.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
I just don't know if they get down, can they
come from behind?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Just you're right, Carter, he's unblockable coming out of Georgia.
Everybody was talking. But he wouldn't do this, he wouldn't
do that. Well, he should be drafted that they showed you.
He's showing you why he should have been drafted way
you got drafted. That he's unblockable. But I think with
the play action, with the motion and getting Patrick out
on the parameter to hit a slow down Carter from

(07:03):
just peeling his head.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Back and going straight.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
What are you doing here?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
What?

Speaker 5 (07:08):
What what you're selling?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I ain't selling that'd here making about I ain't selling
that am making doing? Talking about the pac Man Jones
show different things that I got coming up the basket.
You played the dB position. Who's the best dB in
the NFL?

Speaker 5 (07:23):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
How you certain whose second case?

Speaker 7 (07:26):
You have?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
That real fast second gazals Gazale's like three on my list,
Like Ramsey.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I like Ramsey, Ramsey is still up there.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
He like horn harm J C. Horn hold On. I
like what about Stingley?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Stingley is good? Is real good?

Speaker 5 (07:45):
I like the kid from Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh you're latim No, No, Alex Yeah, I like him. Man,
when you talk about certain he is, he just don't.
He don't never get sloppy. Bro, his technique is always
on point. If he's supposed to be seven yards, he
is seven yards already said.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
If he pressed, he already pressed.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Like I watched him probably every play that he played
in the last six weeks, and I had a conversation
with VJ.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
VJ was my defensive back coach, defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
He's like, Bro, he's just so disciplined, and it's hard
to beat if you're real discipline. I think the last
person we see him like that was Reabs. But see,
that's another reason why he don't get a lot of picks,
because he's so disciplined. He's gonna be. He's gonna be
where it's supposed to be. Guys that get a lot
of picks, they're normally on discipline. Chances, they're gonna gamble, Hey,

(08:39):
they'll give up a play. It's like t Buck. People
says t Bucks, say t Buck. He said, they got
more slams than they got gold robbery, he said. And
if they throw that sla, I'm gonna get it. If
they run the slugo, they got me but I'm thinking
of that situation right now, They're gonna run the slab.
I was greedy too, though.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I was ready. I was trying to get everything.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
I was patly makes you this.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
We see a lot of these guys, and I think
the NFL should really bring you in to talk to
some of these guys because you have some some hardships
coming up in the league. What would you tell some
of these guys, how do you keep these guys with.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
So much pack?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
These guys making money that you could buy a franchise
for it your car?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
No, how do you say, guys, Look, I'm not gonna
tell you not to have fun, but God, just be careful.
I think the main thing now, like when my situation,
I forgot that this ship was business like you know
what I mean. Being young and getting a lot of
money at twenty one, you forget like, hey, this is
a business, right, And so for the younger guys, I

(09:41):
would tell my like, hey, bro, treat this shit like
a business and treat it like you're not getting another country.
And if you kind of treat it like that, it'll
help you get to the next contract.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think that's.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
The reason why I played a long time like I
never thought like this is gonna be my last contract.
Like that's how I went into every contract, like this
is gonna be my last country. I got to got
away to make these motherfuckers give me a new country.
You get what I'm saying. And nobody never had a
problem with me at work. You know, my problem was
leaving Magic City at four thirty and slaying that we

(10:11):
playing at two pm. Don't come that thing hungover. But
I'm still having my job though, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
That's your question.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
If you could go back, if Paul, if pac Man
could go back, do it all over again, what are
some of the things PACKED would do different?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
I wouldn't. I would have probably had all house parts.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I would have never went out as much because I
made myself a little bit too vulnerable, and being vulnerable
is not not good, So I would just I would
change a lot of things, but the main thing I
wouldn't be as vulnerable as I was or accessible as
I was too. I think that that hurt me a lot.

(10:52):
And some of the dumblass decisions I made, I ain't
said I didn't make no dumb decisions. The couple's decisions
was the wings be good.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
I thought it was gonna go.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Well.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Next time you're in Atlanta, call Pack, I'm gonna r
I don't like to go out nowhere.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm outside. I'm the people's I'm the voice of the streets.
I am the voice of the street. What they say,
did say that?

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:18):
It is?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's that, man, Pack, Thanks for joining us, shape that man.
Congratulations of all your success you in the podcast world.
You're doing your thing. I check you out from time
to time. Man, all right, you're doing your thing.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
You're doing your thing till you step away from them
blue pills.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Though, Yeah, I had to throw that one.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
You're gonna throw a scrap well stage scrapped boy. Let
me see it.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Let me see it, Let me see it, Let me
get that, let me see it.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Let me see if it work.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
Let me see it that work. It definitely works. What
do they call it in road sparks? Go to road
dot com, slash my cap ro co. Why you can't
give me none?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I mean, hold on, you can't get them before me.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
I mean asked for a whole year. Man, all that
money you got, you can't get up blue You can't.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
But here is the thing. Can't one of them. They
only work on me.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
You have to call in and send your information. You're
not supposed to take everybody else medicine.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
You know that? Oh that prescribe?

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you just the right, the right.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I might need to go call then.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
I get the right though.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Back man Jones.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Ladies, gentlemen, thank you, Jordan, appreciate you for having appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Oh Joe, hold on, I'm gonna catch it in the
ind APPRECIATEI.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Fat uh now joining us. He was NFL Rookie of
the Year.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
He was a former All Pro and Pro Bowl player.
Played years with the San Diego Chargers, and he played
one season. If I'm not mistaken with the Buffalo Bills.
Here you Shane lights out?

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Married man? What up?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
What's that little mad? What's that little man? What's Suton?
A little more?

Speaker 5 (13:04):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I'm just getting up here.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
For getting up. I was finna beat his ass years ago.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
This would happen.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I promise you know this happen.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I didn't know he was playing around.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I didn't know he was playing around.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
That's a long time.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
And he said, right, so I stopped.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
This was inn charge facility.

Speaker 9 (13:24):
I walked out that did a video and said I
was gonna choke him when I seen him, right, But
I didn't know Chat. Then I thought he was. He
was serious and we were playing. We were playing there
coming up, and I said, when we see them, I'm
gonna do something real bad, real bad when I catch it,
and we ain't cat I never caught him.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, and some fun days.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Man, now you do it.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I'm good, man doing well good. Let me ask you this, man,
you see this match up. Obviously Patrick Mahomes going for
the three peat, uh the Eagles sa Quon, Jayalen Hurst,
a j Debonte. Then you go to the defense side
of football led by Jaylen Tarta. They have Zach Brown
in the middle, you got Slave, you got uh Mitchell
on the outside. How do you see this matchup playing out?

Speaker 9 (14:04):
You know, it's it's funny because everybody's talking about the obvious, right,
say Kwan talking about Pat. We know what they're gonna do.
I think, man, this game is really gonna come down
to the trenches.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (14:13):
I think it's really gonna come down to Jalen Carter,
Chris Jones. I think it's gonna be that kind of
matchup because that's really gonna dictate the tempo of the game, right,
you know they gonna get there, say Kwan's gonna rush
for whatever. He's gonna rush. So I don't think this Bagnola.
Let anybody rush with Hunter Yafs this year. I don't
think so Jazz. But again, so now he got a
real real obstacle on his hands. Held with that, man,

(14:34):
I just think it's gonna be an unsung hero. And
they gonna be Patrick Mahomes and they gonna be it's
gonna be somebody like a slave right to step up,
you know, getting pressures, you know, and and and the
ball force. And I think it's gonna be an unsung
hero on this game that we just we're really not talking.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
About, right.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I want to know about the.

Speaker 10 (14:51):
Fight leaning, Yeah, that's tell tell us telling people about
what you have going to the fight leading because I'm
thinking about joining, you know, get the hands wet a
little bit, but it's MM so this and I can
kick two.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Whatever it's soon to do.

Speaker 9 (15:06):
So look when I back in the mid two thousands,
uh I wanted to start. I was working with Jay Blazer.
I was in his gym, right, so I grew up
my family. My uncle's professional boxers. So I grew up
just boxing in PG County and Washington, DC area anyway,
Sugar Ray Leonards gym was right up the street, so
I grew up in around boxes anyway, And so I
was hit the gym, hit the miss one day of
gym and Jay Lazy said, hey, look I've seen seeking box.

(15:26):
If you're tried him in May, it'll help you out
in football with the hands coming off the end. So
he took me to the gym one day and Jay
Blazer's here and Randy Katour it's hit on my left
and I'm looking at looking at Jay, I said, I'm
not fighting Randy Coatour today.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
That's not that's not happening.

Speaker 9 (15:40):
But what I saw, Man, I started training with these guys,
you know, every all season, Chuckldale, t d Orts, all
these guys, I got a chance to just be around
the train with and I fell in love to sports.
I ended up launching lights out of the streets fighting,
which we looked at. Man, it's one of the feeders
to to the UFC. You know, we set we set
six guys to the UFC last year. Okay, so that's
so that's what. So basically you're my the league system
to the UFC. Yeah yeah, And I think that the

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word minor league. Nobody's gonna be bigger than UFC. Right,
it's gonna be people's gonna headstart. They got too munch
of hand starting. And when you think of mm A,
you already think of the UFC NOMA.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
No matter where you at.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
But what you can do is do some things that
they may not be looking at.

Speaker 11 (16:15):
Right.

Speaker 9 (16:15):
We got a bunch of We got chips and the
gloves that can measure speed, power, punch, impact, all that's like.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
A lot of tech, a lot of AI.

Speaker 9 (16:22):
And now to just launch my my streaming service Lights
our Sports TV that we carrying a lot of combat sports.
We got a big fight in LA this Friday on
uh in Long Beach, the Lights, size strengths fight. So
what you can do, man, because we able to pivot,
we can do some stuff and if they like it, right,
it's if they like it, they adopt it.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
And that's that's the.

Speaker 9 (16:39):
Whole goal of BET. We don't we don't try to compete.
We're just trying to create.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Let me ask you this, you hear Miles Garrett says, Look,
I appreciate everything Cleveland. They made my dream come true.
First overall draft pick, Defensive Player of the Year, All
Pro Pro Bowl. I believe I've done all that possibly can.
But at the end of the day, I want to
compete for a championship and I don't believe I can
do that in Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
What what what do you do?

Speaker 12 (17:03):
You do?

Speaker 9 (17:04):
You have a problem with him, like I want to
go compete with Type no and the Browns organization. Gotta
respect it. He's giving you everything he possibly can. From
his standpoint, he's done everything he can. Now you get
to a point as an organization that they're not doing
what's best in your interest now because after you make
enough money, you already notice the best in your position.
You already got the Pro Bowls are all pros or

(17:25):
deep things. You already got the accolades. The only thing
now to do is get a championship. And if you
don't have somebody out there working with you to give
to put you in the best situation and say, hey man,
we gotta get this, we gotta get this. Said, the
biggest regret I have my career is is not winning
the ring. That's that's the biggest one. And all the
teams we had, we should at least got one. We

(17:46):
should fill up, we should have got won. And so
you know, I'm sitting up in you know, I remember
going to the NFL network, going ANFL network, and I'm sitting
up there on the panel up got Marshall for everybody
who's up there, and they got these rings on it.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
And I'm sitting at my heart beat through my chest
because you've missed that part. So I don't blame Miles.

Speaker 9 (18:04):
Garrett at all for one to get out of an
organization that hasn't put him in the best situation, gonna
be a.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Champion like it? What's next?

Speaker 5 (18:12):
The year just started.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
We only in February. Yep, we only in February. What's
next for Sean Merriman In twenty twenty five? We got this,
We got this big fight. We had the East West frone.

Speaker 9 (18:22):
Congratulations too, bro shid it, Yeah, yeah, congratulations with these
SWSS shrine. We so NFL Network had the game for
these West Trine Bowl lighte size sports to be my network.
We had the practices. There was the first time they
ever did the practice. And you know, we want to
get more college conferences. That's that's coming down the pipeline.
We're gonna announce it soon. But also too man bringing
bring some of these guys in and trying to get
more more formal guys into come, come and fight. You know,

(18:44):
some of these guys have been playing three four years,
pissed off and got cut a few times, you know,
been in a bad situation, a man life stile bro man.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
You look here, if they have been fighting.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Man, it's hard to all of a sudden just get
into fighting when you ain't been fighting.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
No, it ain't pretty easy.

Speaker 9 (19:01):
Yeah, but but one thing I'll say, we don't walk
in with two left feet right automatically.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Greg Hardy helped Greg Hardy, man, he didn't know.

Speaker 11 (19:07):
He need even more to help that. He need a
lot of Yeah, it's too late for him, it's too late. Yeah,
y'all wrong, y'all wrong. Man, that's y'all wrong. But I
wouldn't I wouldn't go say yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
It's too late. I would just be with that.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
But see, that's that's what you know, fighting, right, that's
a different type of fight, right, right, street fight. You know, Okay,
I'm just worried about the guy punching me in the ring.
Guy can punch you elbow, your knee, you can't. Yeah,
all that it's actually believe it or not. Man better
for us because we can We got explosion. A lot
of these guys don't got that, just naturally being able

(19:41):
to explode and do some of these things. And people
talking about Greg Hardy had had a nice little run.
Yeah he had a night and then he fell off.
It's I think the next champ is.

Speaker 9 (19:51):
Going to be one of these guys played three four years, right,
you know Bill Tall six three six four or six
like like out of sign you like yes, yes, Bill,
Johnny Johnny Jones. We had a guy that was built
like him. He's just he played for the Charges, played
for a couple of teams. I think the next champion
gonna come from a guy that's pisiness, played three four years,
didn't make all the money he wanted to, didn't get

(20:11):
his shot, got a ship on the shoulder, and don't
be the next shamp.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
That's why I things will happen.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
What type of mindset do you have to have, because look,
if you go back in like the boxers, most of
the most of the boxers way back when they came
from there, they came from pard. I ain't talking about
you know, I'm talking about poverty. I'm talking about they
were barely and they had to do things. And it's like,
what's up. You're gonna fake me to beat somebody ass
and I ain't gonna go to jail for it.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Sign me up.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And so what type of mindset does a person have
to have to get into the mL mix?

Speaker 9 (20:44):
I think see see sham. We're so used to running
in other people in football. People think of us the
same way.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yes, and we do.

Speaker 9 (20:50):
You gotta have a different Like I tell people that,
I say, you gotta be sick to run that way
and that way and two people collide full speed, Yes,
and then do it fifty times Yes, up to the
next day, give your ice cold toet what you got
and then get take a day and then do it
again and then most people. So when you talking like that,
but it's people out there that look at us the
same way that we look at them. There's people out there, man,

(21:11):
like these fighters that come you know, guys that come
from NFL or NBA or whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
They got that mindset. They can do it. They just haven't.

Speaker 9 (21:20):
They don't know the path Okay, you know what I'm saying,
Like Chad, when their celebrity stuff their stuff, you can
go promote, but if you really go trying to do
you got to find the right gem, the right coaches,
the right team, and a lot of guys don't do it.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
And that's what we've been doing. Over the lights side
of the Trained Fight.

Speaker 9 (21:34):
We have three guys that were kind of transitioning into
this world.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
To god, I think it gonna be the next champs.

Speaker 9 (21:40):
Is it expensive to get into m m A Not really,
not really, but it's expensive you get with the wrong
people because they around trying to snatch you over there.
That's one thing about this big combat sports. Now you
got a bunch of bad people in the in the business.
But for the most part, man, I think that I
think the next heavyweight to light heavyweight champ can come
from the NFL or former NFL.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Sean lightside Marriorman bro Thanks for stopping by. What that y'all?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Man, appreciate that. Man your commentary on the game, who
you got winning the game? I'm not going against the
sheeps ver again. I just I think the whole I
think ninety percent of the country group for the for
the eat.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (22:15):
Yeah, I'm not going against the Chiefs ever again for
you're not betting against my homes. I'm not bet against
him and another people that's on the field like you're
towards man, you know, I mean man, I ain't talking
about the Seahawks seasons.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
I like it.

Speaker 11 (22:34):
Appreciate y'all, man, Thanks man, all right, Sean Merriman, what's up, bro?

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Thank you boy? I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Oh, Joe Chip Kelly signed to be the O C
of the Oakland Raiders. He becomes the highest paid offensive
coordinator in NFL.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Here, wh whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
When that happened three weeks ago. Chip will make six
million per year. Will Chip be able to jump start
the Raiders offense? Jump start the Raiders offense with what quarterback?
Let's start there. They might go ahead and try to
get Marcus Mariota. That's who he had. Remember he had
to Oregon Heisman Trophy. Okay, he was the backup Okay

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in Washington. Okay that listen. I like the I like
the Raiders receiving corps. I like what they have a receiver. Now,
if you go get Mariota, who's shown he can he can,
he can lead a team.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
You know he had.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
He has a good arm, he's a dual threat quarterback.
He can run the ball as well. And I got
cursed out not long ago. Max Crosby, I know you're
probably gonna see this, and right now I'm on your side.
Depending on who you get at the quarterback position, you
guys might have a chance. Max Croby seeing me a DM,
he was mad by what I heard. I heard everything
he said by this not having a quarterback, that we're
not gonna be able to do anything.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Max, off your side and now I love you.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
Depending on who you get that quarterback, Having Chip Kelly,
it's gonna be a great thing for you guys. I
love you, and I don't want to fight, and I
want no problem.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
What was he upset about? They're not going to do
anything with a quarterback without one?

Speaker 6 (24:04):
No, I mean I think he tried to argue the
fact that they could do something, no doubt having one.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
You had one hundred and twelve hundred and thirteen catches.
What they get you four wins? See, I don't even
bring up stats.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm just saying, so, yeah, you get in the Yes,
we've seen a lot of players play with bad quarterbacks
get numbers, right, But at the end of the day, Okay,
what are those numbers leading to something?

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Right? Right?

Speaker 6 (24:25):
You're right, You're right, You're right. So Max Unks said it.
So you want to get mad this time. There's nothing
to get mad about. We're just eighty fact facts, right,
I mean a bunch of numbers. They need to be something.
They need to be like social Security number, they need
to pay bands word of numbers of number?

Speaker 5 (24:39):
What number? What are those numbers lead to?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Right?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
What are the getting out of those numbers? And so
you're right, they need they need a quarterback. They need
a couple of other things also, and I definitely think
a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
But do you like this hire?

Speaker 6 (24:52):
I like to hire Yes, the Chip Kelly, his creativity
and what he's been able to do throughout his entirety.
He's had some some bad raps some places he's been,
but I know what he can do offensive from an
office and standpoint, if you get a quarterback, that's the key,
that's the deciding factor on their success.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Well, the thing is that he worked really well last year.
He's the offensive coordinador Ohio State buck Eye. They won
the national championship. Maybe he's better suiting in this role
as opposed to being a head coach, because you know
he wants to and now he just has to worry
about getting the offense ready to play. He's not in
charge of scheduling, he's not charge of conditioning, He's not
really in charge of anything except the exces and o's
and getting the offense to perform at an extremely high level.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
So I like this move.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Also, obviously with Pete Carroll being there, no problem with
Pete going back. People are surprised that, well, Pete going back,
why did he get Coach Belichick?

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Nah, Belichick ain't going there?

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Who the quarterback?

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Hell?

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Who the quarterback in North Carolina?

Speaker 6 (25:49):
I think Belichick took that job in North Carolina to
show the GMS and the coaches that I can be
a leader of young men too, despite what y'all may
think about my old ways and my old coaching ways.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Shure you I can.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
I can resonate with the young folk as well and
coach at the collegiate level and then bring it on.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Now, well, he gonna get he gonna.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Get a job.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
If if six Super bowls and nine ten Super Bowl
appearances ain't enough, Now, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
I know that. You know how, young folk? What have
you done for.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Me late lately?

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh, Joe, Cooper Cup to be traded by the Rams.
Rams are willing to eat some of the contract and
facilitate the trade. Where were they laying?

Speaker 4 (26:29):
You know what, There's so many good places where Cooper
Cup can go. He can do so many things. So
many teams can can.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Benefit from having a receiver like Cooper Cup that he
can play in the slot, he can play on the outside.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
He's an the elite right runner still to this day. Obviously,
the opportunities decreased tremendously once Pooping the Coup got there.
So I'm not sure where he can go, but I
hope the place he does go, he's able to continue
to contribute and get the opportunities he deserves as a
receiver that he is. So he still he still has
those wheels, you know, they're not flat just yet.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
So I'm not sure where you can't go. You look
at the landscape of the NFL and who could use
h half number one, number two receiver like Cooper Cup.
What happens with t Higgins if he doesn't stay? You know,
bringing a Cooper Cup who can No, No, no, I don't.
I don't like that because Cooper Cuple takes him to
catch away from from from the chase, because they kind

(27:21):
of do the same things.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yeah, I kind of like, I kind of like.

Speaker 12 (27:24):
I think he needs to be he's forty nine ers,
he's more of a slot forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
But they just got piersall Ah, what do you think?

Speaker 5 (27:33):
I just think I.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Me personally, I think he needs to go somewhere with it. Look,
can't he play outside the numbers?

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yes, he is morepecial effective inside.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Inside the numbers. So he needs to go somewhere that
has a similar situation. I'm trying to Carolina. Carolina was
the West Coast system. Oh, Green Bay runs it, but
they got they got your.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
You good.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
I'm just making sure you were good?

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
What right?

Speaker 5 (28:07):
What's really going on?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I'm not making sure he's good.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
I've been good.

Speaker 12 (28:11):
Okay, what were we talking about? What you want to
talk about? Whatever you want to talk about. Let's talk
about where you be white? Why haven't I seen you
on I G.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Baker. You're just coming back.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
You was off the I G four all right, So
this I ain't gonna liet to you this what happened?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Scared?

Speaker 4 (28:26):
You got shadow bands? No, I ain't get shadow band.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
They banned your ass for real.

Speaker 12 (28:29):
I got fat. I was like three or eight for real?
What Dad, you were doing? Depressed about what.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
My knee was?

Speaker 12 (28:41):
My knee was messed up. So I was six weeks.
I couldn't move. I was just sitting there, eating, just eating.
So I went to go tie my shoe. When I
knew I was real fat, my son called me fat already,
but you know he hat anyway, so you know he's
my oldest so hater anyway. So when I knew I
was real fat is when I went to bing over
to tied my shoe and my stomach got in the

(29:02):
way and I had to move my leg to the
side to get down there.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah yeah, because I was like, well damn, I would say,
but maybe yeah, because I remember you had mentioned that
you your neque was Bobby. Yeah, I said, well maybe
he had surgerment, Yeah, just out of commission k boom.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
But I was like, what d y'all hold on?

Speaker 12 (29:18):
Tain't nobody to no three four buster recover from those
searching Yeah, dude, man, I had miniscus repair. So I
was six weeks none weight band. I couldn't put nothing
on it. So I'm like, I'm about six six seven
months out now.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Okay, so how you how you did that?

Speaker 5 (29:32):
Old entries?

Speaker 4 (29:33):
No, So what happened was.

Speaker 12 (29:37):
The jim equipment that I was using at the gym
it failed on you.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
So I was I had a band around my waist.

Speaker 12 (29:44):
Yeah, and instead of using the band, I used a
velcrow belt that they had their cheap bel crow belt
to hook to the band bel. I was doing bandit
r dy ls. So you put the band yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
So I'm doing like three fit ten and I'm doing
the bandit and then that things snap.

Speaker 13 (30:03):
Ah.

Speaker 12 (30:04):
So to stop from falling on my face, I had
to drop the weight and jump over and I landed
straight like.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
This on this knee.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Pop.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, you felt through.

Speaker 12 (30:13):
I went that day, got MRI and was in surgery
the next day.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yeah, damn, you gotta stop doing that heavy. No, that
was what I mean. That's funny we work. I mean
that ain't heavy already at three fifteen ain't.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
But you added, you added, But now you got tension
throughout the Todd movement, which I know.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
That's what you're looking form.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, you gotta have that push.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah you know, bro, you get No, you're not close
to see Oh you what forty five?

Speaker 6 (30:41):
Agent age ain't got nothing to do with strength if
you got the right technique. Huh yeah, you're supposed to
know that. While we why are we talking about strength
with a band that's one seventy five?

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Well you listen you talking. I'm twol five right now.
Listen to a five. Yeah, I'm thank you.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
Man.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Don't make me come up back this jacket, man LEEZ.
But listen, listen.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
We talk.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
We talked about straight. You talk about a man that's
one sep five. But you know, I've always been very
very strong.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Held at you it was two or five.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
You know what I'm saying. He's saying.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
I was onecering I I'm just listening to what he
talking about. But I've always been very very strong. So
you talk about you doing uh three fifteen already yell,
I'm three fifteen on the bench. I just did that
work out this morning with what boy told me, you
do twenty five five times twenty seven I did. I
did two twenty five twenty seven times. When when I
was training, when this was about two months ago. Hey, man,

(31:26):
you say stuff so well that I'm serious.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
I'm serious.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
I won't believe it. You have people, you have people. Listen,
you have talk to Chip. Chip was our stress Chip. Yeah,
to ask Chip how I was in there. I did
my workouts for the defensive linement and the office alignment.
I didn't even work out with the receivers.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Just got you working out with Bim. That don't mean
you do it that way. No, I have to do
their way, Like hey, I work out with Chevin Shaw.
You have to do I have to because I'd be
in the way. I'd be in the way. I can't
be in the way. So I would always go first
and say ask, and you who asked?

Speaker 5 (31:57):
What work?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I don't believe you, sham you got listen.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
I would listen. Listen. I'll lie for you before I
lie to you.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Listen.

Speaker 14 (32:04):
You're gonna have to show me what they're gonna do
with the quarterback you want. You want to see Russ
and you see justin field? Which one do I want
to see?

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yes? I don't know. What doesn't matter.

Speaker 12 (32:26):
I don't really think it matters to us. To be
honest with I would I guess I would go with
Justin becausey s But yeah, I don't. I don't think
it matters. I think they've got to find another option
at quarterback I believe.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
So Okay, okay, if that's okay, how about this, my boy,
George Pickens.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Do they extend them or do you let them go?

Speaker 11 (32:53):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Just from what I'm seeing, what I'm hearing, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (32:58):
If it was me, I would I would try and uh,
I would try and trade him.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
It's something too good.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I'm just saying behavior, it's just hard to do behavior
like that. Yeah, that's just me. I mean, I mean
you see, yeah, you see it.

Speaker 12 (33:15):
You know, it happens with you know, it seems to
just be happening a lot of time.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
But you know, with the receivers. I don't know if
that's just a really really really really good Yes, let.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yes, sir, you think George Picking is the equivalent play
of Luka Dncics.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
In football terms?

Speaker 4 (33:35):
No, no, because he doesn't get the opportunities the Luca does.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
He is not the Luka Doncic.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
What what you're not gonna do is sit here and
discredit George Picks of how good he is.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
Because and comparing him to goddamn Luca For one, he
doesn't get the opportunities and.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
That type of gave him.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
If you gave him the opportunities, would he be the
third or fourth best player in the NFL?

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Why?

Speaker 15 (33:53):
He would be the third, third or fourth? What's the
total about? So he'd be over Stay right there? Oh,
I like you just said that you put, you put,
you give period.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yes, no, I can't go. That's that's what I'm asking.
Listen to me. I've seen his skill set. I know
what he can do. Stay with me real quick.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
If he got the opportunity, is Jamar Chase got and
still his offense, what do you think is numbers would
be I'm not saying he let me finish, let me finish,
but the comparison with Lucan, I mean, Luca always has
the god damn ball in his hands, let me finish.
If George Pickens got the opportunity justin Jefferson got with Minnesota,
what you think is numbers would be.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Don't be outstanding, but he still would be the thirst
best play in the NFL. So that means you have
to put him.

Speaker 16 (34:33):
No, no, no, no, I'm talking about receivers, you know, he said, player.
That's why I slipped out there, That's why I went
brought back. We see their yo. Yeah, absolutely he has
that kind of talent. Now, don't do me like that.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
But I'm saying so, I'm saying the negative.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
Be hey, now that I don't like and we didn't talk,
We didn't have that conversation. Yes, I guarantee you won't
have no problems at him. How can you get right there?
I didn't have that conversation with him. I guarantee you
and I don't want sit here and talk about what
we understand. Understand what I said. Listen, that window of
an opportunity, Well that bit shrink real fast. Now it's
shuret real fair. Do't matter how good you are. Now,

(35:09):
y'all use your line. They'll tolerate you until they can
replace you.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
That's Mike, Mike. Mike will say that all the time.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Yeah, there's no replacement for him right now, which is
why I think he might get a little grace, So
don't be surprised.

Speaker 12 (35:22):
But think he's gonna want a deal. He's not going
to come back without a deal.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (35:27):
So I don't I don't see with his current and
past behavior me as an organization taking a.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Chance of saying, understand, I'm gonna give you that.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
I guarantee you and I can stand on that right now.
You won't have no more problems out of George Picking.
That goes Mike Tom that you're gonna see this. You know,
the the world is, y'all gonna see this. I guarantee
you won't have no problems, no more. Just this ain't
in the NFL standard.

Speaker 12 (35:53):
It looks like for me from the city here looking
at you, No, I know, lie man, I couldn't. I mean, fantastic,
see if dude, I'm not gonna lie to you. You know,
like you said the conversations, you have things out.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
You know.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
I just couldn't take that. I couldn't take that chance.
I just I just know what he can do.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
I understand the value that he brings to an offense
when he's utilized the right way.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Hit his head off the goal post any day. It's
only it's only a few. It's only a few receivers
in the NFL can take a hitch and take a slant
and take an eighty Only a handful Jefferson Chase, I
mean all those one of them.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
You know, no halfway on the plates.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, oh no, ain't too many.

Speaker 12 (36:30):
Halfway You can go halfway on the play and not
give all your ass Oh.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
That that par okay, Okay, I see, I see you're going.
I see you're going.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Let matter this. What about coach talkin.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
He ain't going nowhere? What's you mean?

Speaker 12 (36:43):
I mean he's going to be there when he got
three more years life? U think it's a nice.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Piece of money.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
There was some speculation about him being traded.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Dude, he's not.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
They're not gonna trade him.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
You got to coach that.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
The good the good things.

Speaker 12 (36:58):
You got to coach that that can win, can keep
you above h five hundred.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
He hasn't been blowfied what almost twenty years?

Speaker 12 (37:06):
Whatever it is, do I go and get rid of
that in hopes of getting something better?

Speaker 5 (37:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (37:14):
It's six and one hand half a dozen and the
other Also the other things is you're at the stillest
organization being above five hundred. That's not you know, that's
not the standard that they know and that you know
that's my The standard is is the bombardis you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
That's the standard.

Speaker 12 (37:32):
Yeah, and you know, when it comes down to it,
you know, you got to sit back and you gotta
look at like, yo, you know, we ain't want to
playoff games. It's twenty sixteen. You know, that's a hard thing,
you know to look at. You're talking what about an
eight year drought there? But like I said, that's that's
the negative things. But since it's still three years left me,

(37:55):
I'm gonna have to let it ride out because you know,
the devil that I know is better than the devil
that I.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Don't know, So I think I gotta write that down.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
I think that's the thing though, Jane, is that you're
ready when you look at it and you're like, oh,
he hadn't been. But the standard, you're not paying that
kind of money to be nine and eight. You're not
paying that money to be ten and seven when the
standard has always been Super bowld playing for winning, competing.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
For Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I don't think anybody goes into the beginning of the
season and said, man, Steeler's a Steeler's gona being contingent.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
They're going to be right there at the end, they're not.
They get hot and then they fall.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I don't know what I don't know what's happening that
they get hot for like nine.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Ten games and then you just step off a plip.

Speaker 12 (38:38):
Yeah, I can't, you know, I can't. I can't give
you an explanation of that why that happens. But you know,
when it comes down to it, you know, everything has
to go back to the head coach. And it's not
like you've got a head coach that's been there for
three or four years. You've got a guy that's been
there almost in twenty years. Yes, So the lack of

(38:59):
a quarterback, the lack of you know, offense, defense, whatever
that is, it falls back on the head coach because
you had plenty of time to have years to be like,
all right, I need to get into I need to
draft this position because this person is coming up and
they won't be able to continue to play. And you
have to get your your next heir apparent at that position.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
And you know, when you look at it, man, like jas.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Listen when you look at it, man, he said, saying
to being too long.

Speaker 12 (39:32):
Man, to be honest with you, I'm saying you didn't
get somebody to get ready to replace it.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
So similar to like an Aaron Rodger and Jordan Love situation. Yes,
well you don't want to piss your quarterback off. Could
you see what happened when they dread drafted Jordan Love.
You got Aaron Rodgers pissed and they had the funk over.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
They pissed off Bred Farv too. But oh yeah I
did them. It ended up getting a super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
And that's the same thing now until you find that
guy and the but Stella shiit no first hand because
they didn't do a proper job with Terry Bradshaw, so
it wasn't They had those laws years of mediocrity until
they got a quarterback in Big Ben, which was in
two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
But think about when Terry retired, So you had twenty
years of.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Just failing around.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, and that's what and similarly that's what that's what
they are right now because at less you've got a
quarterback in this league.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yes, so when you first got to the league, run
the football, run the defense.

Speaker 12 (40:21):
You can have a marginal quarterback and you can win.
Well yeah, I mean you got you gotta look at
when when Ben first came in. You know that's what
we did. We ran the ball, you know, and run run.
He'd hit him over the top, you know, and let
him get the time to learn the game and figure
out where the ball should go where it shouldn't go
over that course of time. And you know, his biggest
players were, Okay, it's a scramble and he's you know,

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he's tossing it twenty thirty yards down the field.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Somebody's taking off.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
So you know, running the ball is something I ain't
gonna lie man.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I really want to.

Speaker 12 (40:49):
See get back into it because it's just a physical
aspect of enforcing your you know, your will on somebody else.
They just cannot stop you. That's that's the great you
know what I'm saying. Now you're putting eight to nine
in the box and now it's time to go over
the top of the head.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
I like it, You like it.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I like it.

Speaker 12 (41:07):
If you want to coach, do I want to coach.
I do not want to coach unless it's, uh, it's
my kids. I would be willing to do that if
it was my kids. But to put actual.

Speaker 6 (41:18):
Time, actual you understand the time that goes into it.

Speaker 12 (41:22):
Yes, a lot of times, it's a lot of time
that goes into it. Like for me as a player,
I put a lot of time into it. But as
a coach, you're putting more time into it, you know,
And that's not something that I'm willing to do. My
love for the game, Uh, it's not. It's not that great.
Especially you know, if I'm playing it, I'm gonna give
you everything, right, I'm gonna be there from dusk till
don you know, I'm gonna do everything I need to do,

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take care of my body. But just you know, coaching it,
I don't. I don't have that love for it.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
And then you know what it took to be great,
and then you coach and you see guys bullage out
of the round.

Speaker 12 (41:55):
Listen, that's something that I would I would have a
hard time with especially and you're looking at what it
what they could be if they put in, you know,
the time and effort, you know. And that's not just
you know, on the field, it's in the weight room,
it's in it's in the off season, you know, you know, especially.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Now where you don't have much practice.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
And all that.

Speaker 12 (42:15):
You know, you got a lot of guys with all
these soft tissue injuries. You know, they want to they
want to point to the field, the turf and all that.
What you need to point to is guys aren't training
like they used to. You aren't putting those forces on
your body in the off season, or you're not getting
it leading up into the season. You only got three games,
guys play, you know, twelve snaps for the whole preseason,

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and then you know, a week one come and you're like, hey,
give me one hundred miles an hour, sixty five plays
and you wonder why dudes are tearing and getting all
these soft tissue injuries. It's because they're not preparing their
body to go out and play a season. When I trained,
my hardest thing was the off season, Like I put
in more work, I put in more strain on my
body than I did in any practice.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
But that's the thing, though, because when you look at it, I'm.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Gonna have me n May it's still chat, you know.
I mean, he he always go talk crazy. Listen. It's
one thing about talking. But you wanna get in there
and throw the trying try. It's gonna be a trying
mass man play on you. Hundred what how much?

Speaker 17 (43:16):
Way?

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Two of five right now?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Made her pick that little shit over one hand, You're
gonna pick it up because he's gonna pick that sh.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Upumum black up. No money. This nigga even breaks off
his head. Oh, bature my braksle, This ain't no cording
the nurseature my braaks. This ain't no cord in the nurse.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
All right, all right, we're gonna do all right, we're
gonna get advertised responsor.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Like I know he don't.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I know he don't.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
I know he don't.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I know he don't.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
This what this one more worried about?

Speaker 4 (43:46):
How more worried about you might eat that little shit
you throw at?

Speaker 1 (43:49):
No, forget what.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
He ain't condition like I am. He gonna beat two seconds,
he gonna try to throw a punch. Grab you said
him in man grabbing me stops saying that I hit
you your mouth, don't say that.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
No moment I get this. I was walking hard. I'm
to get hit my mouth.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Boy, God damn, y'll just think.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Hey peasy, you know, I hate nor.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
I don't like I don't like that people look at
size and it determined when's and losses based off size.
You saw David, and remember that story, right, man, that
was the story. Remember what happened out there? Huh yeah,
I don't don't don't.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
I don't think yourself up to be dead.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Do you read the Bible?

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You ain't.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
You read the Bible? One of us?

Speaker 5 (44:38):
One of us.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Start reading, start reading because you got you good.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
I ain't gonna need.

Speaker 8 (44:45):
You know when you start off you listen, you heard me.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Listen, listen.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Let me talk to you. You got to talk, got good.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Got to take my life for a joke, No jokes.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
All my kids.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
I'm gonna talk all.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
That, all that crazy. Bust you in your mouth.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
What's going on.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
My kids?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
You don't play by my kids. I got two hundred
of them.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
I got you, but good, you're good?

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Show you I'm good? And you really think I show
you I'm good? Oh my god?

Speaker 5 (45:26):
What you got? People?

Speaker 4 (45:27):
You got something to say?

Speaker 12 (45:28):
Listen, man, I accepted my lord and save it. In
August this past year, man, I was baptized.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
You are yeah?

Speaker 12 (45:36):
Yeah, with my mind off, I see what you're about
to make me do is go totally outside what I said.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
I was your character right?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
No, listen, man, I think I might.

Speaker 12 (45:49):
I've been trying to hold this thing inside of me
a long time because ever since I got like fined
by Roger Dale for seventy five though, I've been wanting
to kill somebody. I think you might be the person
I tied them brough you. That's fine, that's that's fine,
whatever you want to do.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
You know, matter of fact, if you beat me, I
added seventy five thousand of your person.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
If you beat me, how about that? So you get
your money back? That's how serious I own.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
You're gonna give me that, I give it back. You
might as well just right there, right now.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
You got me fucked up?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Man?

Speaker 5 (46:14):
You right there? And how can please?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Like, hey, God, can I get funny? Y'all talking about money?
What's my part I got?

Speaker 4 (46:22):
I tell you what part?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
You're gonna bet the nigga cut man. You're gonna work.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
No work done, check, come workout, do not alone? So
hold on, I got I got three.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
If I walked down there, don't I walk I'll bring
him out along. So you don't believe in me.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
You don't believe me, and you're talking ship what you think?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Okay? What the hell I say? You believe in you?

Speaker 18 (46:50):
And you know it's me, you know for life. Hold
I don't care where you're from. I do't know how
that don't mean nothing you' from where afron Ohio. I'm
back right, So off your ass from right? Yeah, you
city day County. I don't even know what it is.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
You don't know, you're gonna know what I lump your
ass up. That ain't ain't he ain't all right? But
all right running, I did not.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Get in you.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
I'm done, you know what.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Matter of fact, I'm doing too much talking. Yes, you're
doing too much talking.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Let's just set the ship up.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Man.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
We got brundy.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Won't it.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Doing that?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
You've been doing that form everybody.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
It don't make me know it don't matter where I'm.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
At, Runny, can you gonna be.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Hey, Runny? We got six bucks? We got said.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
I don't trust him. I don't trust see him.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Ain't that griff take the down?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
No, no, no, I'm trying to tell you he's that big
bull that he's to sit up.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
You get close nothing, we gonna grab your head.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
You shall pulled you down right right.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
I pulled you down either, I pulled you down for
a reason.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Ain't ain't we got to seeing you niggas fast? I'm
not playing. He's ad ass. So yeah, I was setting up.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
We got this.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
We're gonna make somebody. He's serious. What's you now? I
ain't playing. Did I play with you on Sundays?

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah? He talked to me. He's exactly. We're about to
fighting for the game.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
I said, no, man, they gonna throw me out for real, Jay.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Like I'm gonna be.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
He pull up for the shirt roller.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Come on minute, skipt.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
I said, no, man, they gonna throw me out for real,
and you're gonna get to play. But it's the thing
they sing's.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Football, no more life. But like you.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Tested my manhood. Now that you disrespected me, you gonna
you know, Okay, we'll see. Yeah, man, we'll see.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
How much how much time you need to get the
knee right.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Oh, I want no excuses. That's gonna be his first
excuse when you lose. Oh my knee was messed up.
Oh my knee was right now. I had that right now.
I had a minute.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Man, tomorrow, y'all bring you back tomorrow. Oh my knee
hit me back. Oh I need some smartguess baby, need
to get my carriage. I'm gonna beat that nigga ass.

Speaker 9 (49:02):
But I'll tell you what, man, you didn't tell whatever
you need to do.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Shape, give him the time, and he gonna need the
game some way.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
You might want to.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
Can you be ready to six months? I can be
ready tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Man.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
We need time. We gotta we got we gotta sell
this well.

Speaker 16 (49:21):
Ship quiet quiet, he quiet, soft soft fas okay, soft
fat you soft?

Speaker 4 (49:30):
What do I see through all that ship? I see
through all that muscle? Ship ain't about nothing, boy? You
got the right one. God, I'm going to you got
you got the right one?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Baby?

Speaker 5 (49:40):
What we trying to see what they said in the chat?

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Because I beat the chat ass too.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
See, man, listen, We're gonna have to listen. I'm tired.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
I'm not listening. Yeah, I'm helling killer. Don't talk trying
to make me laugh. Don't talk, I'm trying to hear.
Laugh for what because whatever you slide, we ain't gonna
be missing on.

Speaker 12 (50:02):
But your ass too bad? Okay, all right, bet nah, No,
you got to give that. You got to get Hey,
he asked for this. Oh, I'm gonna give you anything
you're looking for. March, April, May, June, July, August. I
think August would be right by the right amount of time.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
I don't need No, I'm good Now you better talk
to him. Hey, Ryan, I'm gonna fuck him up. Lies
all right, I got deebo chat. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I didn't know.

Speaker 19 (50:26):
I want you to better get because my teachers in
high school said the same thing. They didn't believe in me,
and look what I became. Look who I'll come ask
who you got debo? Okay, Aaron, who you got debo?

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Somebody believe in me.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
That's a that's an Oo's producer, Aaron So unfortunately put
all your money on him too, James Harrison, Lady and gentlemen,
thank for Jordan's debo.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
Bad appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Hey, get right, get the knee right, get alist.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
You got to listen.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Get right. And yeah, I know, I know, lie man.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
It's gonna be the easy Okay, playing football was easy. Okay,
that could be easy.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Money have a made okay, have from made money? Right,
it's money.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Okay, you buy some money. We'll see.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
But yes, that's how I know you're gonna get his
ass because he worried about the money. No, I'm going there.
I'm wanting for business. You're going in for benness, going
in for business.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
What you're doing after the show?

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Uh huh? What you're doing after the show? I don't
for to go to the fresh quarter and smoke a cigar.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I'm going to go.

Speaker 12 (51:30):
Tell me where you're going. I meet you there. Okay, back,
we can take care of it. Then, I just told you.
I just told you.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
I'm gonna be in the first call, being the fresh
quarter smoking a cigar. Okay, so whatever you want to do, right.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
We got our next guest coming to the stage.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Ojo, Hey, I ain't even shaking your hand. Go ahead,
I don't.

Speaker 20 (51:47):
Need to shake your hands. It's talking about it, all right,
all right, back, but I see but I'll see you. Hey,
I got debo. All right, thanks coming to the game.

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Is the San Francis Go forty nine ers all world?
Oh yeah, we will, we will be good. We're gonna
put go to.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Stage right now?

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Is the San Francisco forty nine is All Pro linebacker
one of the best defensive players in all of football.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Bred Warner myself, right, how you doing?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Said it's happening.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
Four time All Pro linebacker.

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Speaker 5 (53:11):
See boy, let me say.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Did you heard everything you just said? Everything about Experience.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
One first thing you're saying was wife, a couple, girlfriend like?
So that that that just triggered me based on the
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Speaker 4 (53:56):
I don't know what type of foundation we are right now,
but there's a solid.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
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with Experience? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (54:06):
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Then two or three weeks later you're like, man, you
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But I forgot about the membership that all them subscriptions
that you accumulating over time, men and all add up
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Speaker 2 (54:45):
Robert Sala comes back last time you guys went to
the Super Bowls?

Speaker 5 (54:49):
Be coming back? Right? What happened this year?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Because you guys were in the sup y'll you guys
were in this situation just last year. This year some injuries.
What happened? What does the forty nine ers need to
do to get back in this position? And what happened?

Speaker 5 (55:01):
Did hit?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (55:02):
I mean everybody talks about the injuries, right. I think
it's just when you go, when you go through the
whole year, things just unraveled at the exact wrong time.
I think he was calling right. We thought we had
a chance to really get back on track mid season.
We get Christian back, right, you know, we win a
big game on the road against the Buccaneers Buffalo. We
think we can come bounce back after a bad game

(55:23):
against Green Bay. He gets hurt, We lose guys on
the d line, We lose Trent, we lose be like
all these all these injuries kind of just happened at
the wrong time, and we just weren't able to continue
to compete at a high level.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
So we got to get back, man. We got to
get back.

Speaker 7 (55:35):
On track this off season, get guys healthy and get
that get that dog back in us Now.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
When you when you think about the off season, right,
and there are there.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
Any pieces, any acquisitions that you see fit that can
help and bolster the defensive side of the ball the
offensive side.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Are you Are you happy with the core guys you
guys have.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
I mean, I see Miles Garrett asking for a trade.
We're humping it up at the Pro Bowl. Yeah, somebody, man,
I love my team. I love who we have, Right,
You're always looking for more, more pieces, you know, more improvement.
Of course, you know we need improvement going in the

(56:10):
next season. Of course, based on the season we have.
But I love everybody that we got in our locker room,
and it's gonna tell everybody just taking a look in
the mirror and just taking that next step going to
the next season.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
What a grade, Warner. Obviously you've been a multi time
All Pro player, You've gone to Pro Bowl, You've gone
to Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
What's left?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
What do you want to accomplish, say the next four
or five years of your career, four or five Super Bowls?

Speaker 7 (56:34):
Four four super Bowl Man, that's that's honestly the only
thing I'm chasing at this point. Right when I when
I wake up in the morning, it's no longer of like,
all right, I'm trying to just be the best in
the game, right, I want to be the best of
all time.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
And what is that required?

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Not only playing at the best the highest level, but
having the champions having the championships, right, that's the ultimate
team award is a super Bowl ring. And so what
do you have to do? You got to go outside yourself.
You got to get uncomfortable now where you're going. You're
getting at your team. It's like, hey, man, come train
with me, come train in the bay, like let's get
let's get after, let's get to it and we make
sure that we're training together and we're doing things the

(57:07):
right way to when ultimate season comes boom. Now we'd
even that more locked in the chemistry there, the camaraderie.
We gotta build that up to start getting getting these
rings going.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
What about a d P O Y Absolutely, because you know,
you look at the great linebacker from single Terry to Bucker,
Ray lay Lewis, er Lacker, Keith Lee, all those guys
that accomplish that in the middle lineback position, and I
think you're in that. You're in that category probably, but
you're gonna need You're gonna need to get more thought.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
Yeah, I'll take it this a step further.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Why not m v P okay two of those.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
LT I figured, I want to shoot for MVP and
then if I fall down on d P O.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
Y A, that's great too.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
That's cool saying that's the mindset though.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Yeah, I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
It's early.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
I've asked everybody that's been on here. This this early
is February right now. I'm not sure how much time
you take off from uh your season before you start
back training.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
What do you do in the offseason. What does that
look like before you get back into business, before getting
back into it. I mean all that time in season
when I'm dedicating that to it's just strictly football, Like,
I want to give some time back to my family,
right my wife, my son. I got a ten month
old boy at home, unis his daddy, you know what
I'm saying. So it's kind of using that time to
take some trips, spend more time with them. Unfortunately, I

(58:22):
got to come do stuff like this that I'm not
playing in the super Bowl. But it is a pleasure
obviously being amongst grace and do stuff like this. But yeah, man,
to spend time with family that's done.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
Yes, yeah, I mentioned Robert Sola's coming back.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
What does he add to the defense that maybe was
missing because a lot of the pieces were there. I mean,
obviously you got you and Bolsla and Floyd was there.
A couple of deepeats missed some time with injuries. But
what is his boys being you hearing his boys in
your headset?

Speaker 5 (58:53):
What does that do for you? And what does that
do for this defense?

Speaker 7 (58:56):
I mean, it just adds another layer of stability, right,
having a guy that's proven, that been there and done
it and with our team, not only just in this league,
but with our team. You know, he's the one that
brought me in as a forty nine er. He knew
exactly what he wanted at the position, at each position, right,
And so we're looking at a really young secondary coming
back this year, a defensive line who obviously it was

(59:16):
a little banged up, but getting those guys back going,
you know, we don't know what the second.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Level gonna look like yet.

Speaker 7 (59:21):
I want I want my boy Drag green Law back
with me, but having him as an ultimate teacher to
get to write the ship and get us back to
playing dominant defense.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
We're going to need it. This is what I'm going
to ask you. Here was the situation.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Drake comes back, Andre Campbell was doing he was playing,
he playing well, right, But Drake Greenlaw, you and him,
y'all got kimmistry and they inserted him back into the
starting lineup, and Campbell's like, nah, this ain't for me.
Did you know he had did what he had done
on the field or did you learn about it once
you got into the locker room?

Speaker 7 (59:53):
Yeah, no, I didn't know he I didn't know it
was unfolding in real time. I found out later on.
I truly wish Devandre would have handled it a different way. Obviously,
now that's that's a horrible way to go out. But yeah, man,
it's just unfortunate that he had to, you know, make
that decision.

Speaker 6 (01:00:10):
As as a competitor, as a competitor, as grady as
you are at your position, do you understand where he.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Was coming from? Even though he handled the wrong way?
Do you do you understand it?

Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
You know, No, there's there's you know, there's obviously you
gotta look at it from both lenses, right, you gotta
look at it from obviously our team perspective and you don't.
You don't sell you can't sell the team out. You
can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
But from his perspective, obviously he wants to be on
the field.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
He wants to make sure he treated, you know, with
respect and whatnot, which he obviously felt like he was disrespected.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
So you can look at it from both angles. But
at the end of the day, you can't handle like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, it's just tough for me because you look,
you understood why you were there. You were there because
green law wasn't available. Had green law been available, you
weren't been there. It wasn't like a whole lot of
people beat down your door.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I think there were along the way there.

Speaker 7 (01:00:55):
It had to have been some sort of miscommunication, like
I even had that conversation with him, because now see
he up and left and that the ties have been
cut there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
But I'll never know. We had this car membory.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
We just had this conversation with Michael Pittman Junior. But
that when his quarterback tapped his head said he was
tired of blow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
What did he say?

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
I'm cheerious.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I don't want to know what They had had a
team meeting to know what was expected of him, and
what was going to be accepted of him.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
But the one thing, like like you said, we're a team.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
When you're a team, the one thing, we don't leave
anybody behind, we go we all we go down.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yeah, yeah, game over? Will Gon handle this?

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I mean and forget it. I mean I don't think
there's an ever a time. I mean, you suited up.
You should have said, look, if I don't start, coach,
if I don't start, I don't feel comfortable play right.
You can't wait till they need you? No, no, no,
that's the part. That's the part that I got a
problem with. He waited until they needed him the most
and to pull this. Yes, it just it was all

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handled the wrong way.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:01:56):
Obviously I'm sure he wishes he could have handled it differently,
but it is what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
Now, what do you guys? What do your team need
to do? I mean, you guys, you mentioned you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Have some injuries offive played well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Party is gonna get a big contract, you know, when
your quarterback get those big contracts. You know, some people
sometimes a lot of times fred they have to go
contracts you know, gets restructured or some teams you gotta
cut some really really good players, some really really tough
decisions that John lynched the GM and Kyle Shannon had
the head coach. They're gonna have to make and a
lot of the guys that were on that roster for

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that final game.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
They're not gonna be back, right, I mean, but that's
every year, regardless of this party situation. Like you can
go look at Philadelphia for example, Like they paid Jalen Hurst. Now,
they made them a good back, but their team is loaded,
And why is that They've been able to hit in
the draft and develop young talent? Yeah, where they're now thinking,
like everybody's looking at their team like, oh my gosh,
how is it already Eagles so loaded?

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
How did it? Guess what?

Speaker 7 (01:02:48):
They found a guy in Zach Bond, who was an
edge rushover in the with the Saints who's now an
All Pro offs ball linebacker. Yep, Like you're you're hitting
in the right areas. You got obviously Jalen Carter in
the draft, who's an All Pro at de tackle. You
sign a guy like say Kon Barkley, who's one of
the big time hits that you had, and then and
then everybody else who you already have on your rosters

(01:03:09):
is playing at a high level. So it's about just
doing like these little things that you're hitting on and
everything coming together a once so then ultimately give yourself
the best chance to win a the end.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Yeah, you definitely. Howie Roseman has done an unbelievable job
in the draft. You look at Cooper de John. You
look at the other corner, Mitchell Uh. You mentioned they
lose Jason Kelse and they get the guy to replace him.
He goes Pro Bowl, He goes to the Pro Bowl.
You know, you had those big guns outside, you had Laying,
you had my Lotta, you had Dixon Dickson in there,

(01:03:37):
and you're right. They've done a great job in the
draft and they've added some few pieces. They go out
make the trains for A J.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Brown huge, And when when you hit, when you're hidding
like that, it's like you don't know. I mean A J.
Brown was phenomenal with the times, but I mean he
took another step another level with Philly and found and
like found another level over here. So it's like, you know,
you never know, but they're they're doing it right over there.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
And the funny thing about it when it comes to
the Eagles, and the way every whether the way they're
running things up there is they keep not only are
they hidden, they keep on hitting every time.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
It always makes sense. It's like they're playing chess, but
they making every move White.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Yeah, they too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
The thing with you guys will hurt you, guys that
you're going so far in the playoffs that you're not
picking ten, You're not picking you're picking thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
Yeah, so the Carter's not gonna Well that's going now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
It's a unique situation.

Speaker 7 (01:04:24):
Right now we got eleven and in the first round
we got pick eleven, so obviously you know they're gonna
use that however they see fit and let's let's roll like,
let's let's use it to our advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Well, what what the help had you not gave up
all those picks for Trey Lance?

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
That that really set y'all back.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
You gave a first round of van But I'm gonna
say that on my pay grade.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
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Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Fred, thanks for joining me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
Y'all need to extra legs down there in the Bay
let me know that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
Hey, come on, talk to me, you Miles. We keep.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
You never die.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
You doing talking and he.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Don't believe in me. Listen, I'm finna fight Debo, right, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
From the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
I'm from the James.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
You got to fight Debo beat his ass? Oh yeah,
I'm for to beat his ass.

Speaker 7 (01:05:16):
Yeah, y'all, y'all I get the m m a frick.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
So you don't believe him either, you see that. See
we always look at people's size and think that les No, No,
I don't mean mm a door like on the ground,
like how does he go to? How's he gonna touch
him for? It's quick and fast as I still am.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
You're gonna keep jab You're gonna keep it man. I'm
finna beat the dog ship out of Dad.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Listen. You know I'm seeing Debot now. People like he literally.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Debo, but I'm o Joe. What happened to Debo and Friday?

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
All right, that's it. Appreciate all pro live back of
Fred Warner.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
In a recent interview, Packers unning back Josh Jacobs will
ask if he believed the team should add pieces the
soft season. Jacobs candidly responded, I think we need like
three fellow teammates.

Speaker 21 (01:06:08):
Uh done. Wits replied to this interview thumbs down. We
called out Package fans, tweeting out a lot of Packers fans.
Help man, if you all player, did the Packers look
to boast of their wide receiving cor this softseason?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Gait?

Speaker 6 (01:06:26):
They want to boast their wide receiving corp when there's
nothing wrong with their wide receiving corp. Listen, you have
you have a young core guys, maybe maybe bringing a
veteran presence. I'm thinking of there is there a vetteran
veteran present that can come in and help that they
can learn from. Cooper Cup come to mind. Cooper Cup
comes to mind. But again, the young receivers have done
a phenomenal job. Though they've done a great job. I
don't know if you want to you want to mess

(01:06:47):
up that chemistry and continuit that he has with Jordan
Love and those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I mean, Josh Jacobs asked, he said we need to
bring in three pieces. He didn't say they need to
be wide receivers. Yeah, so, but the wide receiver, I
guess the wide receivers.

Speaker 6 (01:06:59):
You and you asking you asked an offensive player of that?
Then they think it's coming from an officer's perspective on
what they need to bring in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
So I kind of understand, man, he'd Jade and Reid
called out Packer fans, tweeting out a lot of y'all
Packer fans. So f you fed up man fashion all
players is crazy, I mean, he just I mean, I
think the thing is something.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Look, it's never easy when a teammate says, yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
We because who brings who brings back the status quote
the exact same roster, and expects you're gonna improve.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
You have to make tweets somewhere, Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
But also, wait a minute, then let's say let's say
not making any tweets sometimes bringing back the same thing.
The connuity and the kimmu, the contuit in the chemistry
that they do have might be better than it was
last year, because now you have another year under your belt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
But I think you still got to bring some pieces in.
There's some Look, you're gonna lose something and you're gonna
add some. You just hope that the pieces that you
add are in the right area, because you're gonna lose
some pieces. Nobody's staying the exact same right Tampa tried
that after they went the Super Bowl, brought all their
guys back and that didn't work out quite well. And
so I don't think, why would you ever if you
didn't win the championship bring all the pieces stay exactly

(01:08:06):
the same when you didn't capture your ultimate gold. But
with that being said, he was like, I guess he
felt that a teammate, excuse me, a teammate shouldn't say
what he said. But he didn't say a position. He
didn't say a pacific position. You just said maybe three pieces.
He didn't say where those three pieces should be. You know,
when you got a puzzle, three pieces to the three

(01:08:28):
pieces to the puzzle is pretty large. It can go
anywhere anywhere. But I think sometimes on't Joe. When it's
always a family member. We can take criticism for outside,
but if it's family, if it's from inside, and when
you look at the structure of a team, we look
at us as being family. So anytime a family criticizes
what we're gonna do. Coming to the stage, now, if

(01:09:00):
two Oh Joe play for the Bengals, Ted Carris and
Alex Cappel, each one one one.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
What's up, bro? How you doing man, what's up you doing?
What up a list?

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
See tell us, tell us, tell us what brings you
up to? See the bounty the quicker picker.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Click, Bounty Wingman, the bountie wingman.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Today.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
You can't have football without wings.

Speaker 17 (01:09:29):
You cannot you cannot have and you can't have wings
without bowing you cannot.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Do So is this two plant? The quicker picker? Up right?
This is the good stuff, the good stuff, really good real.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
This is the deser.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Okay, I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Lite.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
We might as well be in Cincinnati right now.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
How's your experience so far? Been at sup Bowl? Just
you know, just coming straight to Radio Row. You know,
I've been in New New Orleans a few times. I
love this town.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
You like it?

Speaker 9 (01:09:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Has been so far? It's been good. I had some
Begnet's last night. Ah, but it's been good. Man, just
hanging out here, Okay, okay, talk.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
To us about the season.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Obviously, you guys didn't make the playoffs and haven't been
to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
You know what that's like. So what what are the Bengals?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
What do you guys need to do to make sure
that next year in San Francisco that you guys are
not able to come to radio row.

Speaker 17 (01:10:22):
Yeah, I mean, you can't throw away games, right, Like
if you look at our early season, we had tuning
games and we just throw away like game four or
five games we should have won and we didn't make
the play. And when you do that, it's it's tough
to dig yourself out of a hole, even if you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
On a run.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
At the end.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Man, that Patriots game really hurt HU because when you
look back at it and see where they finished and
look where that one game, what if you like and
that's what it comes downstreet during the season, it's look,
we can there's game here, game there. But you're like,
hold on, we lost to that team. They're gonna be
picking third in the draft, and we lost at that
team and they potentially kept us out of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Yeah, I know, And I think that's officially something that's
that's on our back as a program. They see get
these early wins in this season and not not played
from a two to three game deficit against Kansas City,
Buffalo Baltimore and and you know, just be in the
pack because it's gonna be tight. Regardbou Yes, but we
can't draft three to start and expect to do anything
in the Nancy.

Speaker 17 (01:11:14):
But you know how close those games are, even between
teams that win a lot of games and yes and don't.
If you don't play well, you're gonna lose those games.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
That's simple.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
You look at Kansas City one score game, they don't
lose one score games. You lose a couple of those games. Now,
all of a sudden, the six. It works out different.
Some teams one score game, they might be two and eight.
Another team in one score game, they might be eight
and two. That's the difference between the team making the
playoffs and the team that doesn't make the playoffs. What
do you gotta look, you lose your defensive coordinator, you

(01:11:40):
bring the I think Golden comes back in he with
a B beat live backer, climbacker, end up going to
know today becoming the DC. He comes back. What are
some of the things that you think you guys need
to do in order to improve this overall team? To
make sure you guys just in the super Bowl about
four years ago, how do you get back?

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
So I think it just starts preparation. We got to
come out of camp healthy and ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
The pairs healthy, ready to go, for week one, week
two and put ourselves in a great position in our
division and in our confidence.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
You know, I'm excited for Scott Peters, our new a
line throw. He's going to bring a great, uh refreshing
new energy to our rooms.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Hey, I've talked to Dave Andrews up in New England
and you know he speaks very highly of him, So
I'm excited to get to work with him.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:12:26):
And it's not wholesale changes, like I mean, every game
is going to be close the whole year, so it's
making those plays. It comes down to execution, and uh,
if you execute those close games, that's the difference.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
Get him right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
No? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Also, you know, also I want to point out also
watching us, I'm saying us, even though I'm not on
the team right now, watching us throughout the years, we
always have a problem issue with starting slow. We always
start slow where we have to find our way pick
ourselves out the whole. You know, what do you think
we can do from our office and even the stampoint
to where we can get get a get a season
finally where we start fast for a change, and it's

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not so hard to climb back into in contention later
on in the season.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
I think we're probably gonna it's probably gonna be a
little bit different of a spring program, right, and obviously
camp too. And you know, I think that Zach what
wanted to play us more in this preseason. I think
we'll probably have a bigger volume in the preseason coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
You just talked about that. Yes, because I'm from the
old school. He used to play the first preseason game,
this fourth preseason game. Obviously, if you went overseas or
you played the Hall of Fame game, you played five,
but we played ten. Play the person preseason game, you
played ten plays, and then we play twenty the third
preseason game with just how dress were hurtzing, so we're
playing three quarters, and then the fourth game we were out.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Now a lot of these guys that y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
You guys don't even play in the preseason.

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
How difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
And then now you ask, well, you don't play the
entire preseason, all right, we're gonna turn it up.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
We want you to go all out sixty plays.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
That's that's an awful lot guys.

Speaker 17 (01:13:58):
Yeah, but he's still see teams do like I think
the Rams when they won the Super Bowl, they didn't
play it all in the preseason, so I don't know.
I mean, it's doable. I don't like to look at
that as like like I really think it comes down
to execute and plays, like like, why did we lose
those games. I don't think it's because we didn't play
in the presion. I think its because we didn't play well,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
What I mean, Like I was just kind of pointing
to something that we could ship you to just change
up the mojo. Yeah, right at the start of the season.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
This is really the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
First season that job has been completely healthy. I don't
know how much he played because he's nursing the calf injury,
so he didn't a lot doing training camp, But this
is really the first season that he hasn't been healthy.
That he was healthy, and you guys didn't make the
play Playoff Cup. Normally, when he's healthy, you guys make
a deep run AFC championship game for Super Bowl. How
important it is to make sure that he's healthy, he's upright,

(01:14:46):
because when he's upright, he's as good as we have
in the least.

Speaker 17 (01:14:49):
Yes, yeah, I mean, and that shows that it's a
team game because he was playing as good as he
could play and when we all didn't play well enough
around him, but obviously our jobs to take care of
him and he's that's in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I mean, well, the best your quest because I was
always interested, like you'll got beats you for a to
sack and you go like, I hope Joe didn't know
that was my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
He'll no sooner.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Ugh, I have put it right on the right off
the street. You gotta get out in front of it.
And that's all me. Bro, that's a me. That's my
bad bad. So, guys, you're representing bounty, So what are
you guys doing for about it? We're ringman, the.

Speaker 17 (01:15:24):
Ring men stick together, ring ring Man, there for each
other and so, uh, we're just representing wingman. You know
bounty that well, they said there's billions of wings eating
super Bowl week or something like that, bounty and keep
it clean.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
But it's rare.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
It's a rare bear rare that office of Lineman get
an opportunity to pitch products. Normally it's skill play back,
the back wide receivers, DB's live backers.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
Now YouTube guy are actually pitching product.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Oh with the dynamic joke, you see this guy eat
wings that you would understand all flat, all flats.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
No drums that mat.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
I like that. I'm a flat guy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
I'm a flat guy. But like, don't act like you're
too good to eat a drum and we can all
come on.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I was about to ask flaps or drums. So if
we get if we get a fifty platter, how many flats,
how many drummings?

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
I go thirty twenty thirty flat.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
I'm going fifty fifty fifty flats better than people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
That's why, Bryan better. You can grill them better. They're
better sauced up. It's a better dip where you're going
like not it's like, uh, you know sometimes in the
drum you get like that sinewy tissue.

Speaker 5 (01:16:27):
Yeah that is pure meat.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Okay, Yeah, I like that. I have one question.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I want to.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
I want to I'm wanna want to take it back
to football real quick, especially during the all season with
some some some.

Speaker 6 (01:16:35):
Things that are gonna have to happen. We're gonna have
to pay Jamar chicks, We're gonna have to pay t Higgins.
Do you think it's possible to be able to fit
everybody under that umbrella and being able to pay what
they're deserve based on their play thus far.

Speaker 17 (01:16:48):
There's always a way. I mean, you look at teams
that manipulate the cap like crazy, there's always a way.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
You don't even need to manipulate it. This year it's
going to two seventy five.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
But you have to understand each about team being able
to manipulate the cat. But teams also don't have a T.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Higgins.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Team don't also have a Joe Burrow and a Jamar Chase.

Speaker 5 (01:17:04):
And most teams don't have.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
But Mike Brown as an owner, it's tough to let
you know, don't talk about don't talk.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
About my owner.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Well we'll defend.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
Let him know.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
That's the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
The teams that manipulate the cap, those are the teams
that really want that really spend money, and they'll worry
about the can on the back end.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Sometimes sometimes you gotta sell out for some years and
see And.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
That's what they did.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
They make the thing with with Matthew Stafford and they
got they got the trade. Make the trade for von
Miller and you got a d and you got Leonard Floyd,
and you make your trade for Odell Beckham, you get Jason.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
And now they're still winning.

Speaker 17 (01:17:43):
Even though like some of that Tom Cap they had
to carry on stuff like that, but they found the
way he is and.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
The thing is that you bring that mindset in there.
Once guys get a taste that win. Yeah sticks.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Well, that's I think why Patrick Mahomes is so dynamic.
He knows how to in that organization. I mean, they're
winning games nineteen to eleven, you know, fifteen to ten.
It's like, ah, these are weird games, but somehow they're winning.
It doesn't even seem like they're playing that good. And
then they come out and win the game. That's all
that matters too in this league.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
That really is all that mattered.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Thank you guys, Ted Carris, Alex Kappa, Thank you guys
for joining us. Bounty Wings they say, did a wing
man's check it out?

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
You can't have wings without Bounty, can't waiting without bound
it because somebody got to clean up that mess.

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
Thanks for having us.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
Thanks go I'll see you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
Well yep, thanks, thank you guys. Appreciate it good what
we're taking. Appreciate maybe right, are y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Maybe I got you?

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Yes sir, Yes, sir?

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
Coming to the stage they do, Baby, you got it?

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Cleveland Brown's All World cornerback Denzeil war I got a.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Do you up, Oh Joe, do you up? You?

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
You might be talking about you might be talking about Madden.

Speaker 13 (01:19:06):
You.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
I don't study. I didn't study into a t I
could tell you about this whole game. What are you
gonna do? Down and distance?

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
You up?

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Nathaniel the Great, Hey, listen, one of the one of
the greatest technicians.

Speaker 6 (01:19:19):
Ain't ever be saying the tweets what I talk about. No,
I studied, well, I appreciate this. I ain't even playing
the game.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
You can't real the real deal.

Speaker 6 (01:19:31):
Hold on, I got I got one the technician, Denzel
Award number one, that god damn Stingley.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Now, everybody could play can but it's a different I'm
talking about that. Remember the remember the play You just
saying PS two?

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
No, hold on, no, I say certain attorney.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
I'm talking about technical like, it's different the skill set,
you know, watching somebody six to do and watching somebody I.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
Thought you were six.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Yeah, it's different. He's so fucking fluid. But to hit
the footwork ran up the Higgins. Yeah, I'm mad.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Dog.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
That's that's then.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Thanks for joining us. Obviously, the other day. You know
about it. I don't know how soon you heard about it.
But Miles Garrett sent a letter to the Cleveland Browns.
He's asking for a trade. Got to call make anything
you want to say.

Speaker 13 (01:20:23):
I don't like I said earlier in the season, I fell.
Me and Miles we like shocking Kobe. So I've been
saying that. So I want to play with Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
You know, I don't want him to leave.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
But if you ask, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Just check the details under the trade.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
I might be in there, but I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:20:41):
Man, Like I want to all say I love Cleve
on my hometown kid in Cleveland and the shoot. I mean,
I want to stay home on Miles of saying we
got to get the same rolling.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
But we never know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
That's the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
What have You also have to understand. We look at
the landscape of the NFL.

Speaker 6 (01:20:54):
You think the teams that win consistently year in the
year out, here's one position that allowed you to contend
for Lombardi Trophy, and that's the quarterback position. Now, the
Browns haven't been able to find a quarterback adequate enough
to make sure they're always a contention year in the out.
So at some point you do understand where Miles Garrett
is coming from about his wish and hopes to contend
for Lombardi.

Speaker 13 (01:21:14):
Yeah, no doubt. I mean that's the main thing. Like
I mean, just last year we had the number one defense. Yes,
so I mean we got things kind of subtle off
feeling that in So, like I said earlier, we need
to solidify a quarterback position hurt and we've just been
rotating guys in and all. It It's hard to win
like that in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
So do you feel your best dB in the league.

Speaker 13 (01:21:33):
No doubt, no doubt. Like you said, I think I'm
a technician. I found a number one technician in the league.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
Corner.

Speaker 13 (01:21:38):
If I'm a playmaker too, I make play. I'm the
most play making corner out there in the game or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
Funny thing when you talk about DB's right, ninety five
percent of dbs play not to get beat. He got
five percent play the make a play it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:51):
There's a differences, a complete difference there. I just do
you don't understand. I can see himalk about DVD player.
I like dB play as opposed to receive more more.
Who you think I want you to be honest with yourself.
Do you think at any point in your career right
now when you came in, when he was in college,
that you could cover me.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
Come.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
I feel that's a rhetorical question, you know.

Speaker 13 (01:22:12):
I just if you you can do yes, like serious serious, No,
I mean like you think you get over and your prime,
you're getting over prime.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
I can get over on your ass right now. You know,
I'll see you one clip. You got hand up time one.
I ain't having no cliques. I ain't see I ain't
see you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
I'm saying I.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
Really couldn't dig up out of it, like I wanted
to do whatever. When he stabbed, I was just donna
go up under it. I couldn't. I couldn't get up
on it because I had no carip. Yeah, I'm said
the old he'd have got around that. Yeah, Yeah, that's
the old old Joe. Yeah, I'm fifty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Now he's just an old old joke, not all old. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
But let me ask you this, when you when you
look at Jerry Judy, he came to Cleveland after some
years uh in Denver, and the quarterback play had a
lot to do with that. Now he was technical. Now
you talk about I can imagine those those one on
one the right. Because he's technical, he can get in
and out of breaks. He got great movement. What did
you see?

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
What do you think the biggest difference was between him
and Cleveland and him and Devil m I.

Speaker 13 (01:23:12):
Think it could have just been opportunities for real opportunities.
But like you say, he's smooth all running you go,
you gonna get in and out them breaks like that,
Like practice, were going at it every time, so we
getting each other better for the games. But yeah, I
think it's just opportunities, getting the opportunity to get the
ball more and being that number one guy. He the
number one guy for us, and he been making that
happen this ship.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
How was it having Jameis in the locker room? You
see jas to beat dub.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
I love I love James man.

Speaker 13 (01:23:39):
James a great quarterback. I feel sure he is giving
us the best chance to win. He gonna throw that
ball when he when he get out there. But just
a great team guy in the locker room, like what
you see on on film and the clips viral clips,
like that's that's really who we hear, that's him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
So you gotta appreciate that and love who he is.

Speaker 6 (01:23:55):
Listen, since you've been in the league right now and
you understand the landscape of the receivers, who do you
think the best receiver in the game is?

Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
Or just give me your top three based.

Speaker 9 (01:24:05):
On those you play face yea, since I've been in
the NFL, you're like, right now, right now, that special
Right now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
I'm gonna put Jamar Jamar up there.

Speaker 13 (01:24:15):
Just being having to see him two times a year,
that's always gonna be a ballots sold. Chase Davante, I
want against him, Adams Jefferson, Yes, okay, Well you said
three or five?

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
I mean your top three is? Is there someone that
gives you trouble?

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
Like when we when I talk about dvs during my
playing day and I think of someone that gave me trouble,
It was only one and that Hope that was Reader's
It was only one, you know, in regards to where
it was technically said. He was patient. Nigga had patience
like that. He made you know, people ain't fro the
pay salty kind of patiently had the lands so nothing
I did would really work.

Speaker 6 (01:24:53):
He was ar bar he was always in position, and
then his his ball skills. He had the bass you
have the same ball skills. You and Derek Seeley might
be the only two I know they have. You lead
ball skills that don't get impatient, they don't panic when
the ball is in there.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
That's nice and calm. But he had that same thing.
What receiver gives you trouble? If there was one, it's
to be It's okay to be honest. Yeah, I'm be honest.

Speaker 13 (01:25:18):
It's a lot of great receivers, but I don't feel
no one just give me like, oh, it's just he
raised the trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
No.

Speaker 13 (01:25:24):
But when I first came into the lee Antonio Brown though,
going against him as a rookie, I feel like, okay,
you know this is really a matchup, like he put
pressure on me, right, I mean it's a lot like Chase,
like that's a tough matchup and stuff like that. But
I don't think guys and it's too many guys that
really just I feel working work right right, right, Okay,
I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
I would look at it, looking at your sides, I
would say they're not really the big receivers, you know,
like Ko was a big receiver, the big receiver guy
that played through contact. I would think a smaller guy
that's your side, Like, oh, yes, right right, it's those
big guys that used their feels a want to want
you to try to put your hands on them so
they can play.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
Through that contact.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
How do you adjust that? How do you adjust that?

Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
Do you prefer playing against bigger receivers knowing that you
can transition better than them, knowing that it takes them
a while to get out there breaking I didn't see you,
but you twitch?

Speaker 7 (01:26:13):
Is a on that?

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
What you prefer that that?

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
That's that's a good question.

Speaker 13 (01:26:16):
That's a that's a tougher part to going against a
bigger receiver, like let's say Mike, and I think it
depends on where you had on the field too, Like
we're in a reds on okay, then they might get
a little turt they trying to throw a jump ball
at that. But ien when we're in a big field,
I don't really have no issue where the big receiver,
short receiver or whatever. Just using my quickness and technique, I.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Feel that's up put me in position.

Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
Yeah, how do you stop?

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Because I think the hardest ball to stop, the hardest
field to stop back How do you stop that back shoulder?
Because if you're if you behind me the ball, if you,
if you, if you're in front of him, he goes back.

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
Shoulder you, how do you? How do you defend that?

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
Really, you're trying to dictate the route.

Speaker 13 (01:26:49):
So me, I'm gonna take away to nod the deep
ball first and then force them because I mean, that's
a tough throw.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
You gotta really be on Tom.

Speaker 13 (01:26:54):
And like, the only guys I've really seen on Great
Tom is Aaron Rodgers, and Debon said, and that's Bay
and Green Bay is when.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
They were able to hit that back shoulder like that.
So the back shoulder, I.

Speaker 13 (01:27:05):
Don't think that's gonna beat you or in a game
like you want to take away that non ball first.
That's why I'm taking away and now I'm just gonna
compete back on.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
The back shoulder. All right, that's what's up.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Denzel Ward, Cleveland Browns all world d beat says Hey,
then Miles Garrett might be a package deal. No, he
didn't say that, but Miles Garrett, the man who prayed
he wants to play with Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Hopefully it's in Cleveland. But it doesn't seem like Miles
wants to conf.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
Finish his career in Cleveland and come on, come on
down to Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
NA.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
He'll want But like you said, and you want to
and you want to win also, I want to. That's why,
that's that's why you play this game. Yeah, you canna
make a lot of money all the wars that all
pros and the Pro Bowls. That's nice, But you want
to be at this game and not doing what we're
doing here today. So good luck down the road. Thanks
for stopping by, night Cap. We appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
JNJE appreciate y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Sure you can't come from me though you already know that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
You know I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:27:59):
Yeah, yeah, I know. You beat him up. I ain't
even work mm hmm. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Oh man, we're done.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
We're debo at, We're deebo at a chat as chat. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:28:15):
I just want y'all to know how serious it is.
It's not a game. I'm finna start training right now.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
Six months. I got six months.

Speaker 6 (01:28:20):
I'm gonna out of Sonya because out of Siya we
probably had the same skill set, same height. I'm finna
beat his motherfucking ass.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
I promise you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
That's on my kids. And I got out of Sonya. Hi,
you know, just you know I'm slender, or maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
That's the only thing y'all got.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
Y'all, y'all, Okay, so I I that my fight style
needs to be just like his. I can't I can't talk.
McGregor's too short.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
That's not really much. I'm not running there.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
I ain't running nowhere, man, anyway, chat.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
I love y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
I appreciate you. Uh uh, it's coming, it's coming.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
Just know I'm go ahead. I'm putting this side there.
I'm looking for a co host.

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