January 2, 2025 • 52 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to reports that the Vikings will listen to trade offer for rookie J.J. McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams likely will be release by the Jets in the offseason, and the Cowboys releasing Ezekiel Elliott.
03:13 - Ja’Marr Chase talks about relationship with Ocho
09:32 - Vikings & Sam Arnold
12:47 - Jets to move on from Rodgers and Adams
19:47 - Cowboys release Zeke
27:00 - Anthony Richardson reveals back problems
30:30 - Jalen Johnson says F the Packers
33:38 - Q & Ayyy
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:43):
Jamar Chase spoke today about his relationship with OCHO. Let's
take a listen to what Jamarcia, courtesy on Marsha Kramski WCPO.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Chat with the closest person that I got a chance
to just chop it up with and next questions and
do that stuff with. How funny he is. I mean,
you know his feet, Yeah, he had great feet too.
He had really fast feet. I watched his tape a
couple of times. You know, I even watched they did
(02:15):
like a workout video. I'm sure I think me and
you talked about this before, so you know I watched
that too. So he definitely got one of the best
feeds as a receiver.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
That's Jamar Chase is the only way his way to
winning the Triple Crown. I think he would be the
what the sixth Triple Crown winner, Jerry, my Brother, Cooper Cup, Smitty.
I think Don Hudson was a Don Hudson that won
a Triple Crown. Don he had Don Hudson, Jerry wanted
in ninety, my brother wanted the ninety two. I think
(02:47):
Smitty wanted in two thousand and five, in two thousand
and six, two thousand and five, and then Cooper Cup
won it and twenty twenty right right or twenty twenty one. Yeah,
we kount of that. That's why he had like five
but you know we kind of they go I don't
(03:10):
think they take anything, uh pre merger, okay, right, but
that that got to make you feel good when the
young buck like man I chopping up with oo. He's
one of the first guys that came in and offered
me some words of encouragement and you know, talk to
me and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That guy makes you feel good.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely obviously have an
opportunity to watch him in college him getting drafted Cincinnati.
I was one of the first first people, one of
the first people to you know, I got his number
right away, called him, congratulated him, uh, and I was happy.
I was hyped. I prayed with him in the off season.
Of course, my crazy ass you guy there playing dB.
(03:54):
I'm like serious, I'll tell her we out there, we
out there really competing and talking trash.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
And I'm not trying to cover him into Sir Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Man, I'm getting I'm man, I'm getting what man, But
I'm I'm going I'm going as hard as I can, man,
and just being able to watch the dudes up close
and watching how they work and how how serious they
take the craft. You know, everybody can finish product on Sundays,
they see the finished product. I'm seeing them in the grind,
(04:22):
in the trenches, you know, before you know, in the
off season, getting getting right.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Man.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So I have such an appreciation for for Jamar Chase
Man in his game and just just everything he does
on the field.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And he is so much, such a much.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
He's such a better complete even than I am complete.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Some of the stuff he does I can't and I
can't come.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
If you've been working out, because see, he got the
kind of body that can run through tackles.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Your last couldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Nah, I ran through, Ray, I ran through.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
That's all that matter.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I lost that one. Yeah, I did this, and I
lost every time. But you try to give you.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
A fail effort. I will give you a effort because
a lot of people going they hit it. You tried to.
You tried to sneaky. If I see him, I'm coming.
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I don't care. Hey, listen, Chase, Chase.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You can do some things I can never do. Man
his ability when he has a ball in his hands.
I don't have that gift to be able to do that,
to be able to bounce off of tackles. I can't
bounce off with people. I'm making business decisions every time.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Now, you know the fifty to fifty balls. Hey, I
can't man, that ain't me. Now we talk about getting open,
We talk about entertainment. We talk about coming up here
and press if you want to. He talk about trying
to double team and think you're gonna stop me. Now
we're talking. We talk about running rouse, running fancy hell,
or stopping on the dive or getting open, close eyes,
(05:46):
and you tell me to get open and you throw
it to a spot and you know, mabidia, Now that's my.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Game, right that chase ship. Well, I can't do none
of that.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Boy he's special. He's special, man. He Uh he's special.
I mean, like you said, he's great a running after
the catch, uh, great contested balls. Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He does it all.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Now, you know a lot of times, because look, in
order to run after catch, you gotta take your eyes
off the ball a lot of times. You gotta trust
that the ball is gonna be where you say it is.
And so you see he gets a couple of times,
he'll drop a few. He's so anxry to try to
get him on the Yeah, he trying to get out
of he trying to get out the door in her.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
But man, he's he's phenomenal. He shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I think he and sa Quan will probably be the
only unanimous first team All All pros, and I think
deserves it. So I don't think we're gonna get you know,
I think the two running backs will be Dack Henry
and and Saquan.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It's gonna be interesting. What's gonna be interesting? Who's gonna
be the tight end. Is it gonna be Kittle, he's
a losing squad. Is it gonna be Lapoor? Is it
gonna be McBride, Is it gonna be Boers? Right, It's
gonna be very interesting what the voters find like so forth.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And so they probably gonna go with Brock.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
But I know those two running backs are gonna be uh,
Derrick Henry and Saquan right, and and in the backs
have been good. Kyron Williams got a got you know,
with any other season, he would be in contentioned contention,
Josh Jacobs would be in contingent. Uh, what's the guy
at Atlanta v? Jon Robinson. They've got some guys that
(07:33):
let's play really play really really well. But when you
get sa Quon on the historic pace that he was on,
and you get Dereck Henry being Derick Henry behind that
offensive line with that quarterback, and you gotta focus on
that quarterback and the next thing you know, King Henry
is running down. He'll let you you got a lot
on your plate to get that. But uh, that's that's
that's real good. The bikers are expected to listen to
(07:54):
offers for JJ McCarthy this soft season, it is believe
Sam Donald would be the quarterback going forward. This scenario
is complicated because if Donald proves not to be the
long term answer, they would have gone two years into
McCarthy's rookie contract without seeing him seeing what he's capable
of doing. McCarthy was considered developmental prospect coming out of
Michigan due to his limited starting experience twenty nine games
(08:16):
over two years, and the style of office he's played in.
Oh Joe, do you think this is the right move?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
I mean, shoot, yeah, absolutely absolutely. Sam Donald is an
answer based on what we've seen, you know, from the
small sample side this season, because of the players that
he has around him. Sam Donald is not gonna He's
not gonna digress. He's not gonna digress.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Addison's still gonna be there. Hackinson is still gonna be there.
Weep to my damn camera, tell us so we both know. Hey,
it just cut off out of the blue. Hold on,
what the hell?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Can you still hear me? Though? Yeah, we hear you. Oh,
let me keep talking. Well, Hockins, it is still there.
Addison's still there.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So what now?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I'm a swis tam I'm a swis to my laptop,
my laptop camera.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
If you thought, if you thought Sam Donald was that,
why would you draft why would you draft JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You took Sam.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Donald and they.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Didn't know uncle, that's my thing. But if you thought
he was that, so he surprised them too, Huh. I
remember having a conversation about being surprised and everybody that,
how were you surprised?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
He was the third pick in the draft.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I was surprised because they took him and they still
drafted a quarterback with the top ten pick. Now, if
you secure Ojo, I mean most people that I know,
I mean, if you if you you know, you got
a call, like, Okay, I got a car.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm not gonna go out and buy a new car.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
If i'm if, I'm if I'm convinced that the used
car that I got can hit me from point A
to B in a time that matter consistently.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
But you know what, you gotta look think about the scouts,
think about the gms, think about the film that they
had to study when he was in New York, or
we with Carolina. So they think they're getting that Sam
Donald not knowing, well, what kind of Sam Donald. Are
we gonna get when we put elite talent around him
like this? Now you see what you get?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You got the you gotta you got adequate quarterback that
can get the ball, that can get the job done,
that can get the ball to the receivers.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
You have a decent running game with Aaron Jones.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You in good company. You know what.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We can do this for the next three years with you,
So there's no need for a JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
But I would say I wouldn't let JJ go.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
I wouldn't let him go somewhere else. He still can
be the future.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
But here's the thing, Sam Donald's only twenty six. That's
the problem that you're upper gets. He's twenty six.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Oh Joe, Yah, you know what I don't like.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't like my camera. Look in here interrupted mine.
I wonder why I cut off like that? Okay, let
me try again, Oh Joe barn An unforeseen change. The
(11:20):
Jets are expected to move on from Aaron Rodgers and
Davante Adams this offseason. The relationship between Woody Johnson and
Aaron Rodgers is reportedly irrepairent. It's reached irreparable harm. She
didn't do well in school. I just know that right
now somebody wrote up papers for you know, irreparable.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
It said, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Aaron Rodgers acknowledged that Sunday could be his last game
in the nfl Ow Show. Rogers said he will decide
before a free agency in March whether to play in
twenty twenty five, joking that he won't need Darkness retreat
this time to help him through the thought proper says, hey, well, and.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
He gonna change his tune, you know that, right? Give
me old.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Look, didn't they just give him a contract extention?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
So he how much money he got guaranteed? You probably got?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He woke up teddy Okay, good like he say, Oh Joe,
I think he just signed a contract extencher.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Who erry, that's it. There ain't no money nigga eat
that he gone.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, Because it seems that at some point in time,
if the reports are to be believe true, right that
Woodie Johnson wanted the bitch Aaron Rodgers five six.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Weeks ago and now now basically it is true with him.
I don't like the fact that they're getting rid of
the dog Davante. I think I think they're doing so,
and they're probably gonna pay Garrett Wilson in the off season.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But now we're right back at square one because this.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Also reports of being said, they're to be believed that
if Aaron Rodgers stage, Garrett Wilson is going to ask
to be traded. The report says that there were some
issues in mini camp training camp that has not been resolved.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I remember, Oh, Y're having a conversation with you, and
I said, oh, Joe, just don't look good. You said, oh,
come on, you know ww.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I say that because I had those same heated conversations
like that with Carson. I had those same heated conversations
like that with Kidnap.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
But guess what Kidner was there? You were there.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Aaron Rodgers is an outside He's an anteloper. Oh, he
came from somewhere else. That guy says, hold on, you're
supposed to help me take my game to the next level.
The guy that was here, I won Offensive Player of
the Year with Sam Donald. You're supposed to be better
than Sam Donald. I'm regretsing in p people saying I'm
taking a step back. I'm trying to find out what
(14:05):
do you need from me? I've tried to tell you
what I need from you, And for whatever reason, we
saw this a lot of times on the sidelines, they
were having these conversations and they weren't connected. I don't
know what was being said. I would have liked to
been on a fly on the wall to here, but
(14:26):
this relationship has never materialized. Maybe maybe it's just I
don't I don't think it's material. I don't think it's
it's gone. Listen, nobody is happy, not one Jets fan.
I don't know. If you can pull a Jets fan
and says, yeah, we want Rogers back, it'd be interesting
(14:48):
to see. No.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
They probably all say no. They probably not only the fans.
The players might say no as well. The front office
might say no. You know, can I tell you where
DeVante need to go?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Where? The chiefs ooh, that that'd be a good one
if you want to win. Now, he tired of losing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Now he's been in Oakland for two years. He was
in the Jets, so that's two and a half. That's
two years of losing. Now that three years, because he
one this this is third year. Just so this third
year out of green Bay. You tired of losing?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Go on there. That'd be nice. That'd be a good move.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That'd be a great that'd be a great move. Can
you imagine Davonte with my homeboy.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Wow, that's nasty. Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
But uh, like I said, I don't, I don't, I
don't think Look, I don't think the giants, the Jets giants,
I don't think the Jets fans.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And it doesn't matter. It only matters if the owner
won him back.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And you know, indications reports are that the two teenage sons,
they're kind of like calling the shots. They're sending their
dead stuff on the internet and so forth and so on.
Douglas reportedly said, I've got the answer to two teenagers,
and when it comes down to it, he's taking the
advice of its sons over you know what we're you
know what we're asked to do, the amount of time
(16:13):
that we spend studying film and critiquing and doing all this,
and two kids that don't do rint anything but still
on the internet, and he takes their advice. But uh,
it'll be it'll be very very interesting to see how
this thing plays out.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
But I think there's no way around it.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
This has been one of the biggest disappointments in free
agency in a very very long time.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
There's no there's no well around it.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Absolutely, Cowboys grant Ezekiel Ellen's request to be released.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Zeke will be placed on waivers once he clears he's
eligible to sign with any team. Jerry Jones in the statement,
out of respect and appreciation with Zeke and wanting to
him an opportunity to pursue any playoff participation possible, we
are releasing him from the Cowboys roster today. Oh, Jo,
what team in the playoff need a running back averaging
two yards of carry? All of them?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
All of them have running backs?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Coach, Yeah, I mean you need to run what's the
weak averaging because maybe I'm maybe, maybe I'm being a
little harsh. Maybe it's three yards of carry the roster,
the rosters a pull, he's averaging three. Okay, tell me
the team that's gonna be in the playoffs that needs
(17:41):
a running back that's averaging three point one yard carry. That,
by all intents and purposes, it's over. It's over. At
one point in time, Ezekiel Elliott was a fair bread.
He was a race horse. Well, when he couldn't run anymore,
you hooked him up to a plow and you turned
him into a plow horse. Now he can't don't plow anymore.
(18:01):
So you know what time it is, Oh Joe, you
put him out the pastor because pretty soon we're gonna
have to turn his glass into blue.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Don't do that. I don't do that. Oh, oh try,
I gotta be honest with it. Chet up.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
No, I'm telling the true y'all. See, ze Z can't
been that guy in a very very long time. Go
back and look at it. Every year his numbers have
done this every year since the week year he got
into the league twenty sixteen. Look at Zeke's average yards
per game, average per carry.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So you don't think there's a team he can go
to hung weekend where he can contribute.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
He don't play special teams. The only one potentially because
they lost Montgomery maybe Lions.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
There we go, there we go, we get. I like see,
I like I like what you're doing. I like I
like when you're going with that. I like you going
thunder enlighten me again, Ezekiel Elliott, Jamiir Gibbs in the playoffs. Yeah, bro, yeah,
bo I know you gonna see this. Let's bring Zeke
(19:05):
in matter of fact, that might happen by tomorrow. Ezekiel
to the Lions.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
It's hard for me to believe they don't have a
running back on their practice squad.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's better than what Zeke is right now, because what
you're doing is that you're looking at Zeke from the past,
and he's been long past that. You're never gonna get
the old Zeke. You just got an old Zke on
your hand. It happens to us all. Sometimes it happens sooner.
It happens sooner for some than it does others. But
ain't nobody fin to take There's not one person that
(19:35):
can tell you Zeke has anything left.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I just I didn't understand the move to begin with.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You let him go because you said he didn't have
anything left, and you bring him back because what you
thought the year and those two hundred carriages that he
had on his legs in New England what revived? I
was confused? And then you bention it because he show
up late for meetings. Y'all make it seem like that's
the first time zek has ever done that. I guarantee
you that's not the first time Zeke has been late
to meeting or practice so he waits now that they're
(20:09):
losing to do this. Now, the habits that you established
they carry over. That's why you don't accept anything in
a win, you witn't a loss. You see a lot
of times he's lost it. I give prime example, because see,
losing doesn't doesn't doesn't show care, it reveals it fact
he was happening with what Pete Macki is talking about
in the coats, about guys showing up laid and missing meeting,
(20:31):
missing this and that. That's the time that you reveal
who you are. Everybody wants to be, Everybody get do
oh Joe when you're winning, Everybody watching extra film, everybody
showing up on time, everybody make it wait, everybody doing
what they're supposed to do. But the moment you start
to lose, guys come in two minutes late, three minutes late,
(20:53):
five minutes late. All of a sudden, they're not paying
attention to details, they're not falling the sleeping meetings. They're
coming in a little overweight. Now we gonna do things
the right way. We'll lose or draw. There's only one
way to do things, and that comes from the culture
that's been a step. Well, you don't have no culture
because Jerry. But but really, really the culture is the.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Uh uh and I think uh Saturday.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Like the coach says the vision, right, the locker room
says the culture. That's the problem in Dallas. You don't
have that. That's the problem. There lies the problem. There's
only one way to do things. That's the right way
at all times. Right, we're gonna show up on time.
Your time isn't more important than mine. We're gonna be professional.
(21:42):
If I can get my old lads here on time,
you can get your young ass here on time.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
We go. Hey, we're not gonna sleep in meetings. Hell,
I ain't sleeping.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Hell, I'm tired too.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I love taking my midday nap. Hell.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
As soon as I get our first take, I eat,
I go right back upstairs and get me thirty minutes
through an hour.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Oh no, But that's the locker room. That's where you have.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Veteran leadership, the whole people accountable and to make sure
they're doing the right things. But you can't hold them accountable, right,
Mike MacArthur can't find nobody because Jerry, if it's his favorite,
he'll wipe it off.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Can't win like that. It can't.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
One voice, one sound, one chef mini servers. You heard
her saying too many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
you have a chef soue chef. Okay, that's the problem.
I hate it. I hate it. I mean, look, oh Joe,
(22:46):
I'm not saying it. Tell you you look. Yeah, I
won three super Bowls, but I played fourteen years. What
happened to over the other level?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I was five of eleven. Some of those years I
was seven and nine. I wasn't always perfect, but I'll
tell you what. I was always professional. Yeah, not just
not just my job description, but what I did. You
have to accept the accountability be their own time. Because
I knew one day and I told Al Wilson this.
I said, all one day, you're gonna sit in this seat.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Ow I gonna be the guy I was a thumper
boy it was.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I said, Al, you're gonna be the guy that everybody's
gonna be listening to and looking to.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And if you show up late, oh uh went out again.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
If you show up late, they're gonna think it's okay.
And I remember having a conversation with him about four
years that five years after I retire. You know, he
like big play you right. These more folks don't care
about nothing. You can't get them to do this. They
don't want to come on time. They don't want to
Ya to y'ah. I said, yeah, I know. But you
(23:52):
do the right thing and hopefully there'll be someone there
that's gonna be in your position and they'll carry that
tradition of doing the right thing.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
After.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Richardson revealed today that he's been dealing with lower back
issues that might be chronic heed. He was ruled out
for last week's game against the New York Giants due
to back and foot injuries. Though he's back, that's the
main problem. Richards are recently underwinning MRI that revealed had
a disc problem. Richardson said last week was tough. I
couldn't even stand up on Tuesday. That could barely even walk,
(24:24):
crawling around the house. But here I am. I'm standing now.
If I could do everything in my power to get
out there on the field, I'm gonna do so that's
my mindset last week as well.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
But I could barely move.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Richardson said he's aware of the critics, many of whom
are labeled him injury prone and that's why. That's they
have their right to their opinion since he missignificant amount
of games. He added that all he can do is
work hard and try his best to be available in
the future. What you think it is?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Huh they say he got a disc problem.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I mean I I mean something like that, something like
that would have been on the A report before you
got drafted though.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Huh it could have been. But you know, hey it happens.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
I hope that's something that he can resolve.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Hey, you ever had bad problems now?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I ain't.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Never had no damn injuries on. Boy, That back ain't
nothing to play with, Ojoe. It's worse.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It's worse than the hamstring and the growing. What oh, Joe,
you can't move, You can't listen. At least you can
when you got a hamstring or growing you could like drag,
But at back you can't even get up out of bed.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Real what man?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That boy? Who?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Man? I ain't a man. Boy, You're like maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Cut bad on that?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
They had me so bad on YOUO.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I was driving home, Yeah, man, I had to stop
side of the road and just cry. But was that bad?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Man?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
You try to say anybody had a back you try
to drive like this. You try to have the one
foot the right leg and the padlenges seat you driving with,
got the left foot on the gas. Oh Joe, you're
trying some bad bad Oh Joe, I'm talking about you crawled,
Oh Joe, you crawling mad. That thing was so bad
(26:20):
on my it was a compression on my side. Adic
Oh Joe. You know, I'm six two man. I couldn't
stand up. I was about I was about four five.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Wait a minute, how did it get like that? I
don't know how it got like that?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Squatting too hebby no, no, no, no, I had been stopped squatting. Shit.
I ain't putting nothing on my back. One seventy five.
One seventy five. That's that's how I can go back
right now. You know what I'm saying, O Joe. But boy, yeah, boy,
I'm telling hey, that thing. How you crying? So hey,
I don't ever you a bro. Hopefully you can get
(26:54):
that thing resolved. I ain't really, like I said, I
wasn't gonna have a I don't be wanting to go
in that back. But I did get enough duel and
uh it definitely helped. But he told me I was
gonna end up having to have surgery. But uh no,
I ain't really trying to do that because they want
to go in there and open it up because mine
is starting to compress. I said, I got artificial hips.
(27:20):
Mm hmm, I said, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
But boy, that bag didn't have to play with oo
adding nothing. Now that's crazy, man.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Oh Joe Barry's quarterback Jalen Johnson says ef the Packers
for the game against Green Bayye, that's how I'm feeling.
I'm going to try to go out with a bay.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
There, you coach. That's what I like. I like it.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Listen, Jalen Johnson one of the better corners in the league.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Sometimes you gotta come out like that because the Packers
have owned the Chicago Bears for a while.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Now, they've owned them, you know, for.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
A minute, seemed like everybody been owning them. Yep, this
makes the game exciting. Now, guess where all the eyes
and attention going to be?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
One and the Johnson. You didn't open the can. You
didn't give it.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You didn't gave the Packers bullets and boll material. Now,
all you got to do from an individual standpoint is
hope your team may show up for you and back
up your words, but then you also have to back
up everything you said. If you said F the Packers,
then you got to go out there and play like
F the Packers. And that's something that he can do.
He's one of the better better players in the NFL
(28:28):
at the dB position. I'm waiting to watch you, nephew, nephew,
I'm gonna be watching you.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Mm hmm. Yeah. You look, that's the thing when you talk.
This is the NFL's oldest robbery.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, there's no love lost between these two teams, the Packers. Uh.
As a matter of fact, was that eighty six when
Charles Martin dunk Jim McMahon on his head and knocked
him out? Cool? Leading look did Jim? I think it
was Charles Martin that late, that cheap shot it. Mc
(29:00):
mahon was just standing there. He grabbed him and boom
dumped him. Yeah, I think it was Charles Martin. I
think it was eighty six. I'm almost certain it was
eighty six. Charles Martin chiefs shot Jim McMahon. What year
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was it? Hash still gotta roller eyes on you. All
I said was just look it up, and she looked
it up and it was Charles Martin, Chief Shop gimming
Man in nineteen eighty six. She have to roll the
eyes at me like that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
So you got it right, you got it right.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
The only time she get happy is when I get
the questions unk wrong. You do like you work for
sh She media right, you're supposed to be in this corner. Yeah,
but uh, there's no love lost between these two teams.
That have never been any love lost between these two teams.
The pack of This is hat Phil McCoy. This is
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Ohio State, Michigan. This is North Carolina Duke. This is Alabama, Alburn,
whatever rival rivalry you can think of, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, this
is it. Yeah, this, this is it. Uh, there is
no love lost between these two teams. And they haven't
(30:20):
been any love lost between these two teams. And uh,
if they can name each other, that's it. They try,
but Bear says, hey, he says he wants to go
out with a bang. The Packers definitely want to get
a go into the playoffs on a winning note.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And we'll see what happens. O't yoe.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Now it's time for Q and a man time whind
Och other Hey time go by fast. You're having a
good time, then.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
EXO Clayton lajol said your hand looked like shave acorns.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
He said, look what becaun walnuts? Brazil nuts? Who said that?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Clayton A lajo.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Clayton Laho, you're lucky'all can't see you, boy, I'll fire
you up real quick.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You hear me be their head. Boy, You're lucky. I
can't see you. Post a picture in your face real quick.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Jo trip triple X cumsanity sanity said O Joe, gotta
add a lot of money to the cursing John and
do I ain't even whoa time.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Wait a minute, I ain't even curse the knight.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh yeah, chat you heard this man saying this man
say he ain't cussed? Yeah, but did not.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Chat?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
O Joe cuts to night Chat.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
I've been I've been well aware of everything I've said
out of my mouth, and if I had cursed, I
would have said, oh, my bad, my bad, like I
always do.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You try to you try to what you call him,
what you try to do is just try to keep
it moving. And in fact we heard it, but we
heard it, and I even told you to Ocho Cursey,
din'ty yep.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, I might. I might have shipped up. Why I
might have back?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You say, I quick? You gonna san you that, Edward o' rahman.
Texas need to stop letting teams hang around with them
for so long. That's what happens. You get an opportunity
to put a team away, you need to put them away.
Because once Arizona State got that momentum, and it doesn't
take much. It doesn't take much. So when you get
the momentum, you better put some distance. You see what
Ohio State did. Ohio State got that that uh got
(32:34):
the momentum, go ahead and put the game out of reach, Cameron,
uh shayra pull Ging on to your happy holiday's questions
about Q and A. Do you think guys Miles Gatt
or Jayalen car possibly another piece of draft capital? Why
would I Why would I trade? I mean yeah, actually yeah,
(32:57):
Philly would actually do absolutely do that. But Jayleen Carter
for Miles Miles Garrett. Yeah, Miles Garrett is hold twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I want Miles Garrett jayl En Carter to play together.
I don't want to break him up. Uh, I mean,
Miles Garrett is potential. I don't think he's gonna win
the Defensive Player of the Year because his record doesn't
reflect how just how good he's been. Now, my draft
(33:29):
partner and my Hall of Fame classmate, rest Is soul
Tes Cortes Kennedy, he won Defensive Player of the Year
on a two and fourteen team.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
He was he was balling that, y'all, Yeah, hell yeah,
fourteen and fourteen business.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I don't think you would not have happen again. But
I don't really know where they're gonna go with this,
uh uh defensive Player of the Year because you got
some guys. I mean, you got Hendrickson your guy, uh
has fourteen, My dad has fourteen.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
They're not gonna give it to Henderson. Not as bad
as that defense been.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Uh. You got Daneille Hunters playing really good. Uh and
and and in in uh Minnesota. Obviously t J. Watt
is gonna be a you know, Uh, Chris Jones had
a little down year. He's been dominant, but they do
a great job of double teaming him, and Colopus has
been has been the beneficiary that Uh. Zach Brown has
(34:34):
played really well this year. I mean he's been a
he's been a tackling machine. Uh, carry Joseph has nine
with nine interceptions. Zavid McKinney I think has eight interceptions.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
I just don't know. I really don't know your where
they're gonna go with defensive player of the Year this year.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
I mean there's there hasn't been one clear dominant player. No,
it's been dominating all season long. Everyone has been playing,
you know, really well.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
All together, but hadn't been one clear person like well,
god damn, every time I watch ESPN or I see
a goddamn highlight, it's him.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
All of them collectively have been playing well.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I guess somebody could go, you know, who might get
it because he's been dominant. Who pass certain?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Oh that's a good one. Hey, oh Joe, he been dominant.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
That's a good one. And he has the numbers to
back up the claim.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah yeah, I mean you look, get the completion percentage,
the quarterbacks what you call him averages against him?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
He's he's been special. Bunking.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Don't your happy New Year question? What do you think
about Davonte going to the Steelers?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Also?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Would you be should you be scared of the Bengals
getting into the playoffs? I think the Bills, Uh, who
should be scared of the Bengals getting into the playoffs.
I think the builder, that's what he said. Man, the
Steelers don't really pay a whole lot of money for
free agent receivers. They like to go into the draft,
get their receivers in the draft bill that way. I
(36:12):
can't remember. I'm trying to say, I can't remember the
time the Steelers have ever signed a free agent receiver, right,
I mean from the time I go back they now,
they normally let them leave.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Ya think pain Mike Wallace, Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Morras, Antonio Holmes, Uh, Emmanuel Sanders, Uh, Antonio Brown, Deontay Johnson.
I mean they normally let guys leave. They don't normally
bring guys in. They like to go through the draft
process get young guys fit this system. I don't see
(36:51):
Davante going to Pittsburgh. You never say never, but I
don't see that happening with the kind of money that
he's gonna want. We know, the Steelers like they like
to stay a little bit under market by you when
it comes to other than the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I really don't see that, Joe.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
What do you think, I don't know, I don't I
don't think it would happen.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
The Juju was another one. Yeah, yeah, they did let
Juju go. I don't know. I'm curious. I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I don't think everybody goin. Hi's the only way if
you think about it.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Uh uh he finished right there.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, I mean you go back to Lewis Lips all
those guys. Oh, obviously Small and Star Wars they retired.
You know what I'm saying, what once you got past that?
That that Super Bowl run of guys. All right, I'm
trying to think. Man, Yeah, I don't I don't see
I don't see him in Pittsburgh. I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I don't either, even though I.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Know it would be it would be a nice fit,
you know, obviously with Russell Wilson throwing to him.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Irwin lichten Berg. Uh, what are your thoughts on Jeremiah
smith potential in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, he's gonna be nice. He's gonna be nice. Listen
right now.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Obviously as a college player, I compared him to the
Julio Jones even as a freshman. What we're seeing right
now from him, which he's had a historic season, he's
only gonna get he goes, He's only gonna get better.
He's gonna get gonna get faster, have a better understanding
of the game from a from an offensive standpoint, you know,
getting better at Man de Man you see, just polish
(38:25):
up that route game, you know just where he has
no What you see right now is you'd have to
nick pick to find a weakness in this game right now,
because he does everything really well, everything really well he does.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
People mentioned Anton Randa lail Antoine randallleill with to the
Washington football team and ended up coming back right DG said,
Happy New Year, Unker not Yo, what team do y'all see?
Jent de fitting best with? Based off the draft order,
I think between Dallas, Denver or Seattle definitely need to
run it back.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
So you think you think he's gonna going in the
first round, Yes, I think yeah. I mean you see
Gibbs and what he's been able to do. Uh, and
you see the re emergence of the.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Running back like Gibbs is a little different now.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah he got I mean, uh, looking at Genti, he's
faster than you think.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Now. He don't have four to three spins speed like Gibbs. Right,
But I think he's gonna clock four. I think he
clocked low four five.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Okay, you see a four or five running back going
into the first round.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, I mean, look, the thing is a lot of time.
You see they've been trying to push the running back down.
But you look at the teams that got him. Josh
Jacobs his teams in the playoff. Sat Kuon Barkley, his
team's in the playoff. Kyen Williams for the Rams, his
team is in the playoff. Uh King Henry, his team
(39:51):
is in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Go look at your top runners. Bucky Irby, his team's
in the playoffs. Well they win. They and Sunny there
in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
For the most part, I mean the running back has
had a resurgence Ojo Uh and and and and I
think over the last the last year, especially this year,
I think they.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Proved their value.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I think they're reproven their value and and and the
better ones are are starting to really pay up play
big dividends for them their teams. JJ Carver said, hw
is a ring a bigger goal than an all time record.
Rings are won every year. Records are rarely both broken.
(40:33):
I mean you could get both. I think the thing
is is that sometimes people think, well, it's either either or, like,
if you don't take a pay cut, you can't win
a super Bowl. Well, if you don't, if you don't
do this, you can't you can't win a champion. That's
not true, right, that's not true. I would love to
(40:55):
see Sa Kwan break that record.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
But it seems like.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
The Eagles and the Brass from Jeffrey Lowie, Howard Roseman,
the general manager, Jeffery Lewis the owner, obviously Nick Sirianni.
It seems to me they've made the decision and uh
say Kawan says he's at.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Peace with it. I don't know, but he's putting on
the brave face. But they have to break me off.
I can't. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
For to be that close to a milestone just yea
all the time, I can't. I just don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I agree Robert Goldman's Happy New Year's Guys fan since
day one. My wife and I just celebrated our twenty
first wedding out of birthley, can you give him my
wife yasmin g and I shout out. My forty second
birthday is in January January fourth, Bro, that man been
married half his life. He got married when he was
(41:56):
twenty one, and he's still currently married. Hell yeah, Robert,
congratulations man to you and yasmin man. Happy birthday, happy wedding,
whatever whatever you want us to wish. Bro, congratulations for
you to be married half your life at such a
young age. Obviously, Oh you know what I'm saying. I mean,
he's forty two. He got married as a young young man.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Grasping, grasp congrats.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I mean you got married like the more like my
grandparents got mad, cap got married. They you know they
got mad back then, seventeen and eighteen. Yeah, cause hey,
it wasn't that age she get pregnant. Oh you got
oh you married, and you you going down into the
court house, got your lot, you know, got your little
fifteen dollars rain, go right on down to the coal
(42:39):
house and did that. It wasn't no, it wasn't no wedding, no,
no big extravagant. Her parents stand stood next to her,
Your parents stood next to you. Okay, y'all married? Okay,
figured out London Dale. Can I get a prayer for
my grandpa? He suffered a heart attack today. He's okay. Uh,
(43:03):
him and my grandma were celebrating in thirty two years
of marriage. Yes, London bro, sorry to hear about that.
Boston prayers go out to London deal. Uh and his family.
His grandpa suffered a heart attack today, but he says
he's he's doing well.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
He's a good spirit. Uh and the grandma was celebrating
thirty two years of marriage.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
So uh, congratulations on the marriage and uh you know
the uh nightcap, Uh crew is uh praying for speedy
recovery for your grandfather. Leila Rhodes, Happy New Year nightcap.
Oha O Joe, what's your new Year's resolution? I want
to thank you guys for the extra push. I've lost
(43:40):
ten pound so far, starting a new career in education field.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
You got to love you guys. What's your resolution? Don't
Joe went back around? Huh hang here what you said?
What you said? I said, done right now?
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Huh whispering it, I said nothing, go ahead?
Speaker 6 (44:01):
I mean why was this? I mean my newest resolution
is stop stop cursing this year.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
That lasted about twenty two minutes. This year, I want to.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I want to add about thirty more jobs to what
I already have and that's pretty much it. I mean,
I have to discipline in all other areas to continue
doing things the way I'm doing this and just just
stay focused in locked in.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Uh, stay focused, stay focused. I ain't chasing the lives.
I'm gonna let people whatever they say. That's good with me.
I know who I am, I know what I am.
It's not what they call you. What you ass that
you won't yo yeah yeah so, uh but I'm gonna
(45:01):
get the last laughing in. They're gonna be mad, but
it'll be okay. But I think the people that that
sincerely support you and I Nightcap club Sha Sha, they're
genuinely happy for us, for me, for you and what
you do outside of uh A Nightcap and those that
(45:22):
aren't they'll keep trying to bring up stuff and try
to do all this other stuff, but it's not gonna work.
I think that's that's one of the things. And uh,
I gotta find more time. I gotta find more time
to do stuff for Shannon.
Speaker 8 (45:35):
Yeah, like we need to go to d R be
you and Pride. I tell you, y'all clapping for Hey,
I'm gonna take me a little bake. I'm gonna take
me a little minie bake three day vacation.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
You don't call me, call me, we'll be going.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
We'll be going.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Don't talk and don't be talking about the ball. What's
up when you don't worry about what a coming back?
I would do my portion of them show over the
phone as don't call me talking about I walks up
to run by you know, no, I'm on vacation.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Don't run nothing by me.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
J up?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Are you guys proud of my buck? Guys starting my
New Year's resolution? What do you think can happen?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
First? I lose thirty pounds? Oh yo, get to two ten?
See you in uh nolall funny thing about it.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
By the time we get in New Orleans, i'd probably
be by two fifteen.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
That ain't happening, all right.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
You'll see.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Now, you and you you can't even see. Look, look, look,
just look at the camp real quick. Look how god
damn big I am? Or betty Man like I done
got so big? My head look like it don't belong
on my body.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Year me. I'm looking at them off. They don't want
that belong to your.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Body either, They don't.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
That's how big I done got.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
No, it looks like you should be holding aside Gold Bengals.
What we did, what we did the Denver Oh, no, man,
I ain't mean to bring that up a babe. Hold on, y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Do realize y'all had to go to overtime with the
rookie quarterback, right, Okay, that's not Joe, see I want
you now, I want you to remember. That's that's saying,
don't let the Steelers beat you. Don't let the Steelers
win this game.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Did not tell you we was gonna win that game.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I told you that already, right, And don't boy and
when the Broncos beat them, when the Bronco be who
but Carson wentz for the mop? The flow with y'all man,
stop playing?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Okay okay uh, Nick Mars said, mister unc and O
Joe can't wait to see y'all no love. We could
use some thoughts and prayer for tonight. Have a v
I P meet and greet, ticket can explain what what
was involved in that. Leave thanks for all you do.
Get to sit in the front rod likely to get
(48:06):
a call to the stage, get to be old show
and after the show, take a picture Nick, Thank you,
ro appreciate your support.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Yes, yes, there's a lot going on in New Orleans
right now.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Don't know if you're you're referencing that we had a
little at this top of the show, but maybe you
have something a little bit more personal that that's a
little close to the home, that's personal to you. So
we look forward to seeing you and Nola and we
can't wait to have you there with everybody else. But yes,
there's a lot going on currently right now in New Orleans,
and I thoughts and praisers with everyone that's impacted by
(48:38):
that situation, Oh Joe. That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
We want to thank everybody for tuning in and joining us.
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minutes of regulation, and still escape with a thirty nine
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State in the Cotton Bowl, which is probably gonna be
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be in the Conbowl outside. No, it's gonna be in
Jerry's world. I bet you that's gonna be in Jared's world.
Why she looks up that. But that concludes this episode
of Nightcap. I'm up He's and we will see you Saturday.
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Speaker 2 (01:43):
Jamar Chase spoke today about his relationship with OCHO. Let's
take a listen to what Jamarcia, courtesy on Marsha Kramski WCPO.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Chat with the closest person that I got a chance
to just chop it up with and next questions and
do that stuff with. How funny he is. I mean,
you know his feet, Yeah, he had great feet too.
He had really fast feet. I watched his tape a
couple of times. You know, I even watched they did
(02:15):
like a workout video. I'm sure I think me and
you talked about this before, so you know I watched
that too. So he definitely got one of the best
feeds as a receiver.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
That's Jamar Chase is the only way his way to
winning the Triple Crown. I think he would be the
what the sixth Triple Crown winner, Jerry, my Brother, Cooper Cup, Smitty.
I think Don Hudson was a Don Hudson that won
a Triple Crown. Don he had Don Hudson, Jerry wanted
in ninety, my brother wanted the ninety two. I think
(02:47):
Smitty wanted in two thousand and five, in two thousand
and six, two thousand and five, and then Cooper Cup
won it and twenty twenty right right or twenty twenty one. Yeah,
we kount of that. That's why he had like five
but you know we kind of they go I don't
(03:10):
think they take anything, uh pre merger, okay, right, but
that that got to make you feel good when the
young buck like man I chopping up with oo. He's
one of the first guys that came in and offered
me some words of encouragement and you know, talk to
me and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That guy makes you feel good.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely obviously have an
opportunity to watch him in college him getting drafted Cincinnati.
I was one of the first first people, one of
the first people to you know, I got his number
right away, called him, congratulated him, uh, and I was happy.
I was hyped. I prayed with him in the off season.
Of course, my crazy ass you guy there playing dB.
(03:54):
I'm like serious, I'll tell her we out there, we
out there really competing and talking trash.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
And I'm not trying to cover him into Sir Jefferson.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Man, I'm getting I'm man, I'm getting what man, But
I'm I'm going I'm going as hard as I can, man,
and just being able to watch the dudes up close
and watching how they work and how how serious they
take the craft. You know, everybody can finish product on Sundays,
they see the finished product. I'm seeing them in the grind,
(04:22):
in the trenches, you know, before you know, in the
off season, getting getting right.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Man.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So I have such an appreciation for for Jamar Chase
Man in his game and just just everything he does
on the field.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And he is so much, such a much.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
He's such a better complete even than I am complete.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Some of the stuff he does I can't and I
can't come.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
If you've been working out, because see, he got the
kind of body that can run through tackles.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Your last couldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Nah, I ran through, Ray, I ran through.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
That's all that matter.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I lost that one. Yeah, I did this, and I
lost every time. But you try to give you.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
A fail effort. I will give you a effort because
a lot of people going they hit it. You tried to.
You tried to sneaky. If I see him, I'm coming.
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I don't care. Hey, listen, Chase, Chase.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You can do some things I can never do. Man
his ability when he has a ball in his hands.
I don't have that gift to be able to do that,
to be able to bounce off of tackles. I can't
bounce off with people. I'm making business decisions every time.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Now, you know the fifty to fifty balls. Hey, I
can't man, that ain't me. Now we talk about getting open,
We talk about entertainment. We talk about coming up here
and press if you want to. He talk about trying
to double team and think you're gonna stop me. Now
we're talking. We talk about running rouse, running fancy hell,
or stopping on the dive or getting open, close eyes,
(05:46):
and you tell me to get open and you throw
it to a spot and you know, mabidia, Now that's my.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Game, right that chase ship. Well, I can't do none
of that.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Boy he's special. He's special, man. He Uh he's special.
I mean, like you said, he's great a running after
the catch, uh, great contested balls. Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He does it all.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Now, you know a lot of times, because look, in
order to run after catch, you gotta take your eyes
off the ball a lot of times. You gotta trust
that the ball is gonna be where you say it is.
And so you see he gets a couple of times,
he'll drop a few. He's so anxry to try to
get him on the Yeah, he trying to get out
of he trying to get out the door in her.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
But man, he's he's phenomenal. He shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I think he and sa Quan will probably be the
only unanimous first team All All pros, and I think
deserves it. So I don't think we're gonna get you know,
I think the two running backs will be Dack Henry
and and Saquan.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
It's gonna be interesting. What's gonna be interesting? Who's gonna
be the tight end. Is it gonna be Kittle, he's
a losing squad. Is it gonna be Lapoor? Is it
gonna be McBride, Is it gonna be Boers? Right, It's
gonna be very interesting what the voters find like so forth.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And so they probably gonna go with Brock.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
But I know those two running backs are gonna be uh,
Derrick Henry and Saquan right, and and in the backs
have been good. Kyron Williams got a got you know,
with any other season, he would be in contentioned contention,
Josh Jacobs would be in contingent. Uh, what's the guy
at Atlanta v? Jon Robinson. They've got some guys that
(07:33):
let's play really play really really well. But when you
get sa Quon on the historic pace that he was on,
and you get Dereck Henry being Derick Henry behind that
offensive line with that quarterback, and you gotta focus on
that quarterback and the next thing you know, King Henry
is running down. He'll let you you got a lot
on your plate to get that. But uh, that's that's
that's real good. The bikers are expected to listen to
(07:54):
offers for JJ McCarthy this soft season, it is believe
Sam Donald would be the quarterback going forward. This scenario
is complicated because if Donald proves not to be the
long term answer, they would have gone two years into
McCarthy's rookie contract without seeing him seeing what he's capable
of doing. McCarthy was considered developmental prospect coming out of
Michigan due to his limited starting experience twenty nine games
(08:16):
over two years, and the style of office he's played in.
Oh Joe, do you think this is the right move?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
I mean, shoot, yeah, absolutely absolutely. Sam Donald is an
answer based on what we've seen, you know, from the
small sample side this season, because of the players that
he has around him. Sam Donald is not gonna He's
not gonna digress. He's not gonna digress.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Addison's still gonna be there. Hackinson is still gonna be there.
Weep to my damn camera, tell us so we both know. Hey,
it just cut off out of the blue. Hold on,
what the hell?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Can you still hear me? Though? Yeah, we hear you. Oh,
let me keep talking. Well, Hockins, it is still there.
Addison's still there.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So what now?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I'm a swis tam I'm a swis to my laptop,
my laptop camera.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
If you thought, if you thought Sam Donald was that,
why would you draft why would you draft JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You took Sam.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Donald and they.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Didn't know uncle, that's my thing. But if you thought
he was that, so he surprised them too, Huh. I
remember having a conversation about being surprised and everybody that,
how were you surprised?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
He was the third pick in the draft.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I was surprised because they took him and they still
drafted a quarterback with the top ten pick. Now, if
you secure Ojo, I mean most people that I know,
I mean, if you if you you know, you got
a call, like, Okay, I got a car.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm not gonna go out and buy a new car.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
If i'm if, I'm if I'm convinced that the used
car that I got can hit me from point A
to B in a time that matter consistently.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
But you know what, you gotta look think about the scouts,
think about the gms, think about the film that they
had to study when he was in New York, or
we with Carolina. So they think they're getting that Sam
Donald not knowing, well, what kind of Sam Donald. Are
we gonna get when we put elite talent around him
like this? Now you see what you get?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You got the you gotta you got adequate quarterback that
can get the ball, that can get the job done,
that can get the ball to the receivers.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
You have a decent running game with Aaron Jones.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You in good company. You know what.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We can do this for the next three years with you,
So there's no need for a JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
But I would say I wouldn't let JJ go.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
I wouldn't let him go somewhere else. He still can
be the future.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
But here's the thing, Sam Donald's only twenty six. That's
the problem that you're upper gets. He's twenty six.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Oh Joe, Yah, you know what I don't like.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't like my camera. Look in here interrupted mine.
I wonder why I cut off like that? Okay, let
me try again, Oh Joe barn An unforeseen change. The
(11:20):
Jets are expected to move on from Aaron Rodgers and
Davante Adams this offseason. The relationship between Woody Johnson and
Aaron Rodgers is reportedly irrepairent. It's reached irreparable harm. She
didn't do well in school. I just know that right
now somebody wrote up papers for you know, irreparable.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
It said, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Aaron Rodgers acknowledged that Sunday could be his last game
in the nfl Ow Show. Rogers said he will decide
before a free agency in March whether to play in
twenty twenty five, joking that he won't need Darkness retreat
this time to help him through the thought proper says, hey, well, and.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
He gonna change his tune, you know that, right? Give
me old.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Look, didn't they just give him a contract extention?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
So he how much money he got guaranteed? You probably got?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He woke up teddy Okay, good like he say, Oh Joe,
I think he just signed a contract extencher.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Who erry, that's it. There ain't no money nigga eat
that he gone.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, Because it seems that at some point in time,
if the reports are to be believe true, right that
Woodie Johnson wanted the bitch Aaron Rodgers five six.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Weeks ago and now now basically it is true with him.
I don't like the fact that they're getting rid of
the dog Davante. I think I think they're doing so,
and they're probably gonna pay Garrett Wilson in the off season.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But now we're right back at square one because this.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Also reports of being said, they're to be believed that
if Aaron Rodgers stage, Garrett Wilson is going to ask
to be traded. The report says that there were some
issues in mini camp training camp that has not been resolved.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I remember, Oh, Y're having a conversation with you, and
I said, oh, Joe, just don't look good. You said, oh,
come on, you know ww.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I say that because I had those same heated conversations
like that with Carson. I had those same heated conversations
like that with Kidnap.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
But guess what Kidner was there? You were there.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Aaron Rodgers is an outside He's an anteloper. Oh, he
came from somewhere else. That guy says, hold on, you're
supposed to help me take my game to the next level.
The guy that was here, I won Offensive Player of
the Year with Sam Donald. You're supposed to be better
than Sam Donald. I'm regretsing in p people saying I'm
taking a step back. I'm trying to find out what
(14:05):
do you need from me? I've tried to tell you
what I need from you, And for whatever reason, we
saw this a lot of times on the sidelines, they
were having these conversations and they weren't connected. I don't
know what was being said. I would have liked to
been on a fly on the wall to here, but
(14:26):
this relationship has never materialized. Maybe maybe it's just I
don't I don't think it's material. I don't think it's
it's gone. Listen, nobody is happy, not one Jets fan.
I don't know. If you can pull a Jets fan
and says, yeah, we want Rogers back, it'd be interesting
(14:48):
to see. No.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
They probably all say no. They probably not only the fans.
The players might say no as well. The front office
might say no. You know, can I tell you where
DeVante need to go?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Where? The chiefs ooh, that that'd be a good one
if you want to win. Now, he tired of losing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Now he's been in Oakland for two years. He was
in the Jets, so that's two and a half. That's
two years of losing. Now that three years, because he
one this this is third year. Just so this third
year out of green Bay. You tired of losing?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Go on there. That'd be nice. That'd be a good move.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That'd be a great that'd be a great move. Can
you imagine Davonte with my homeboy.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Wow, that's nasty. Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
But uh, like I said, I don't, I don't, I
don't think Look, I don't think the giants, the Jets giants,
I don't think the Jets fans.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And it doesn't matter. It only matters if the owner
won him back.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And you know, indications reports are that the two teenage sons,
they're kind of like calling the shots. They're sending their
dead stuff on the internet and so forth and so on.
Douglas reportedly said, I've got the answer to two teenagers,
and when it comes down to it, he's taking the
advice of its sons over you know what we're you
know what we're asked to do, the amount of time
(16:13):
that we spend studying film and critiquing and doing all this,
and two kids that don't do rint anything but still
on the internet, and he takes their advice. But uh,
it'll be it'll be very very interesting to see how
this thing plays out.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
But I think there's no way around it.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
This has been one of the biggest disappointments in free
agency in a very very long time.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
There's no there's no well around it.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Absolutely, Cowboys grant Ezekiel Ellen's request to be released.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Zeke will be placed on waivers once he clears he's
eligible to sign with any team. Jerry Jones in the statement,
out of respect and appreciation with Zeke and wanting to
him an opportunity to pursue any playoff participation possible, we
are releasing him from the Cowboys roster today. Oh, Jo,
what team in the playoff need a running back averaging
two yards of carry? All of them?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
All of them have running backs?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Coach, Yeah, I mean you need to run what's the
weak averaging because maybe I'm maybe, maybe I'm being a
little harsh. Maybe it's three yards of carry the roster,
the rosters a pull, he's averaging three. Okay, tell me
the team that's gonna be in the playoffs that needs
(17:41):
a running back that's averaging three point one yard carry. That,
by all intents and purposes, it's over. It's over. At
one point in time, Ezekiel Elliott was a fair bread.
He was a race horse. Well, when he couldn't run anymore,
you hooked him up to a plow and you turned
him into a plow horse. Now he can't don't plow anymore.
(18:01):
So you know what time it is, Oh Joe, you
put him out the pastor because pretty soon we're gonna
have to turn his glass into blue.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Don't do that. I don't do that. Oh, oh try,
I gotta be honest with it. Chet up.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
No, I'm telling the true y'all. See, ze Z can't
been that guy in a very very long time. Go
back and look at it. Every year his numbers have
done this every year since the week year he got
into the league twenty sixteen. Look at Zeke's average yards
per game, average per carry.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So you don't think there's a team he can go
to hung weekend where he can contribute.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
He don't play special teams. The only one potentially because
they lost Montgomery maybe Lions.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
There we go, there we go, we get. I like see,
I like I like what you're doing. I like I
like when you're going with that. I like you going
thunder enlighten me again, Ezekiel Elliott, Jamiir Gibbs in the playoffs. Yeah, bro, yeah,
bo I know you gonna see this. Let's bring Zeke
(19:05):
in matter of fact, that might happen by tomorrow. Ezekiel
to the Lions.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
It's hard for me to believe they don't have a
running back on their practice squad.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's better than what Zeke is right now, because what
you're doing is that you're looking at Zeke from the past,
and he's been long past that. You're never gonna get
the old Zeke. You just got an old Zke on
your hand. It happens to us all. Sometimes it happens sooner.
It happens sooner for some than it does others. But
ain't nobody fin to take There's not one person that
(19:35):
can tell you Zeke has anything left.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I just I didn't understand the move to begin with.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You let him go because you said he didn't have
anything left, and you bring him back because what you
thought the year and those two hundred carriages that he
had on his legs in New England what revived? I
was confused? And then you bention it because he show
up late for meetings. Y'all make it seem like that's
the first time zek has ever done that. I guarantee
you that's not the first time Zeke has been late
to meeting or practice so he waits now that they're
(20:09):
losing to do this. Now, the habits that you established
they carry over. That's why you don't accept anything in
a win, you witn't a loss. You see a lot
of times he's lost it. I give prime example, because see,
losing doesn't doesn't doesn't show care, it reveals it fact
he was happening with what Pete Macki is talking about
in the coats, about guys showing up laid and missing meeting,
(20:31):
missing this and that. That's the time that you reveal
who you are. Everybody wants to be, Everybody get do
oh Joe when you're winning, Everybody watching extra film, everybody
showing up on time, everybody make it wait, everybody doing
what they're supposed to do. But the moment you start
to lose, guys come in two minutes late, three minutes late,
(20:53):
five minutes late. All of a sudden, they're not paying
attention to details, they're not falling the sleeping meetings. They're
coming in a little overweight. Now we gonna do things
the right way. We'll lose or draw. There's only one
way to do things, and that comes from the culture
that's been a step. Well, you don't have no culture
because Jerry. But but really, really the culture is the.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Uh uh and I think uh Saturday.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Like the coach says the vision, right, the locker room
says the culture. That's the problem in Dallas. You don't
have that. That's the problem. There lies the problem. There's
only one way to do things. That's the right way
at all times. Right, we're gonna show up on time.
Your time isn't more important than mine. We're gonna be professional.
(21:42):
If I can get my old lads here on time,
you can get your young ass here on time.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
We go. Hey, we're not gonna sleep in meetings. Hell,
I ain't sleeping.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Hell, I'm tired too.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I love taking my midday nap. Hell.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
As soon as I get our first take, I eat,
I go right back upstairs and get me thirty minutes
through an hour.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Oh no, But that's the locker room. That's where you have.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Veteran leadership, the whole people accountable and to make sure
they're doing the right things. But you can't hold them accountable, right,
Mike MacArthur can't find nobody because Jerry, if it's his favorite,
he'll wipe it off.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Can't win like that. It can't.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
One voice, one sound, one chef mini servers. You heard
her saying too many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
you have a chef soue chef. Okay, that's the problem.
I hate it. I hate it. I mean, look, oh Joe,
(22:46):
I'm not saying it. Tell you you look. Yeah, I
won three super Bowls, but I played fourteen years. What
happened to over the other level?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I was five of eleven. Some of those years I
was seven and nine. I wasn't always perfect, but I'll
tell you what. I was always professional. Yeah, not just
not just my job description, but what I did. You
have to accept the accountability be their own time. Because
I knew one day and I told Al Wilson this.
I said, all one day, you're gonna sit in this seat.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Ow I gonna be the guy I was a thumper
boy it was.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I said, Al, you're gonna be the guy that everybody's
gonna be listening to and looking to.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And if you show up late, oh uh went out again.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
If you show up late, they're gonna think it's okay.
And I remember having a conversation with him about four
years that five years after I retire. You know, he
like big play you right. These more folks don't care
about nothing. You can't get them to do this. They
don't want to come on time. They don't want to
Ya to y'ah. I said, yeah, I know. But you
(23:52):
do the right thing and hopefully there'll be someone there
that's gonna be in your position and they'll carry that
tradition of doing the right thing.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
After.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Richardson revealed today that he's been dealing with lower back
issues that might be chronic heed. He was ruled out
for last week's game against the New York Giants due
to back and foot injuries. Though he's back, that's the
main problem. Richards are recently underwinning MRI that revealed had
a disc problem. Richardson said last week was tough. I
couldn't even stand up on Tuesday. That could barely even walk,
(24:24):
crawling around the house. But here I am. I'm standing now.
If I could do everything in my power to get
out there on the field, I'm gonna do so that's
my mindset last week as well.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
But I could barely move.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Richardson said he's aware of the critics, many of whom
are labeled him injury prone and that's why. That's they
have their right to their opinion since he missignificant amount
of games. He added that all he can do is
work hard and try his best to be available in
the future. What you think it is?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Huh they say he got a disc problem.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I mean I I mean something like that, something like
that would have been on the A report before you
got drafted though.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Huh it could have been. But you know, hey it happens.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
I hope that's something that he can resolve.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Hey, you ever had bad problems now?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I ain't.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Never had no damn injuries on. Boy, That back ain't
nothing to play with, Ojoe. It's worse.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It's worse than the hamstring and the growing. What oh, Joe,
you can't move, You can't listen. At least you can
when you got a hamstring or growing you could like drag,
But at back you can't even get up out of bed.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Real what man?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That boy? Who?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Man? I ain't a man. Boy, You're like maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Cut bad on that?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
They had me so bad on YOUO.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I was driving home, Yeah, man, I had to stop
side of the road and just cry. But was that bad?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Man?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
You try to say anybody had a back you try
to drive like this. You try to have the one
foot the right leg and the padlenges seat you driving with,
got the left foot on the gas. Oh Joe, you're
trying some bad bad Oh Joe, I'm talking about you crawled,
Oh Joe, you crawling mad. That thing was so bad
(26:20):
on my it was a compression on my side. Adic
Oh Joe. You know, I'm six two man. I couldn't
stand up. I was about I was about four five.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Wait a minute, how did it get like that? I
don't know how it got like that?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Squatting too hebby no, no, no, no, I had been stopped squatting. Shit.
I ain't putting nothing on my back. One seventy five.
One seventy five. That's that's how I can go back
right now. You know what I'm saying, O Joe. But boy, yeah, boy,
I'm telling hey, that thing. How you crying? So hey,
I don't ever you a bro. Hopefully you can get
(26:54):
that thing resolved. I ain't really, like I said, I
wasn't gonna have a I don't be wanting to go
in that back. But I did get enough duel and
uh it definitely helped. But he told me I was
gonna end up having to have surgery. But uh no,
I ain't really trying to do that because they want
to go in there and open it up because mine
is starting to compress. I said, I got artificial hips.
(27:20):
Mm hmm, I said, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
But boy, that bag didn't have to play with oo
adding nothing. Now that's crazy, man.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Oh Joe Barry's quarterback Jalen Johnson says ef the Packers
for the game against Green Bayye, that's how I'm feeling.
I'm going to try to go out with a bay.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
There, you coach. That's what I like. I like it.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Listen, Jalen Johnson one of the better corners in the league.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Sometimes you gotta come out like that because the Packers
have owned the Chicago Bears for a while.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Now, they've owned them, you know, for.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
A minute, seemed like everybody been owning them. Yep, this
makes the game exciting. Now, guess where all the eyes
and attention going to be?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
One and the Johnson. You didn't open the can. You
didn't give it.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You didn't gave the Packers bullets and boll material. Now,
all you got to do from an individual standpoint is
hope your team may show up for you and back
up your words, but then you also have to back
up everything you said. If you said F the Packers,
then you got to go out there and play like
F the Packers. And that's something that he can do.
He's one of the better better players in the NFL
(28:28):
at the dB position. I'm waiting to watch you, nephew, nephew,
I'm gonna be watching you.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Mm hmm. Yeah. You look, that's the thing when you talk.
This is the NFL's oldest robbery.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, there's no love lost between these two teams, the Packers. Uh.
As a matter of fact, was that eighty six when
Charles Martin dunk Jim McMahon on his head and knocked
him out? Cool? Leading look did Jim? I think it
was Charles Martin that late, that cheap shot it. Mc
(29:00):
mahon was just standing there. He grabbed him and boom
dumped him. Yeah, I think it was Charles Martin. I
think it was eighty six. I'm almost certain it was
eighty six. Charles Martin chiefs shot Jim McMahon. What year
(29:22):
was it? Hash still gotta roller eyes on you. All
I said was just look it up, and she looked
it up and it was Charles Martin, Chief Shop gimming
Man in nineteen eighty six. She have to roll the
eyes at me like that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
So you got it right, you got it right.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
The only time she get happy is when I get
the questions unk wrong. You do like you work for
sh She media right, you're supposed to be in this corner. Yeah,
but uh, there's no love lost between these two teams.
That have never been any love lost between these two teams.
The pack of This is hat Phil McCoy. This is
(30:00):
Ohio State, Michigan. This is North Carolina Duke. This is Alabama, Alburn,
whatever rival rivalry you can think of, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, this
is it. Yeah, this, this is it. Uh, there is
no love lost between these two teams. And they haven't
(30:20):
been any love lost between these two teams. And uh,
if they can name each other, that's it. They try,
but Bear says, hey, he says he wants to go
out with a bang. The Packers definitely want to get
a go into the playoffs on a winning note.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And we'll see what happens. O't yoe.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Now it's time for Q and a man time whind
Och other Hey time go by fast. You're having a
good time, then.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
EXO Clayton lajol said your hand looked like shave acorns.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
He said, look what becaun walnuts? Brazil nuts? Who said that?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Clayton A lajo.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Clayton Laho, you're lucky'all can't see you, boy, I'll fire
you up real quick.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You hear me be their head. Boy, You're lucky. I
can't see you. Post a picture in your face real quick.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Jo trip triple X cumsanity sanity said O Joe, gotta
add a lot of money to the cursing John and
do I ain't even whoa time.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Wait a minute, I ain't even curse the knight.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Oh yeah, chat you heard this man saying this man
say he ain't cussed? Yeah, but did not.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Chat?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
O Joe cuts to night Chat.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
I've been I've been well aware of everything I've said
out of my mouth, and if I had cursed, I
would have said, oh, my bad, my bad, like I
always do.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You try to you try to what you call him,
what you try to do is just try to keep
it moving. And in fact we heard it, but we
heard it, and I even told you to Ocho Cursey,
din'ty yep.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, I might. I might have shipped up. Why I
might have back?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You say, I quick? You gonna san you that, Edward o' rahman.
Texas need to stop letting teams hang around with them
for so long. That's what happens. You get an opportunity
to put a team away, you need to put them away.
Because once Arizona State got that momentum, and it doesn't
take much. It doesn't take much. So when you get
the momentum, you better put some distance. You see what
Ohio State did. Ohio State got that that uh got
(32:34):
the momentum, go ahead and put the game out of reach, Cameron,
uh shayra pull Ging on to your happy holiday's questions
about Q and A. Do you think guys Miles Gatt
or Jayalen car possibly another piece of draft capital? Why
would I Why would I trade? I mean yeah, actually yeah,
(32:57):
Philly would actually do absolutely do that. But Jayleen Carter
for Miles Miles Garrett. Yeah, Miles Garrett is hold twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I want Miles Garrett jayl En Carter to play together.
I don't want to break him up. Uh, I mean,
Miles Garrett is potential. I don't think he's gonna win
the Defensive Player of the Year because his record doesn't
reflect how just how good he's been. Now, my draft
(33:29):
partner and my Hall of Fame classmate, rest Is soul
Tes Cortes Kennedy, he won Defensive Player of the Year
on a two and fourteen team.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
He was he was balling that, y'all, Yeah, hell yeah,
fourteen and fourteen business.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I don't think you would not have happen again. But
I don't really know where they're gonna go with this,
uh uh defensive Player of the Year because you got
some guys. I mean, you got Hendrickson your guy, uh
has fourteen, My dad has fourteen.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
They're not gonna give it to Henderson. Not as bad
as that defense been.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Uh. You got Daneille Hunters playing really good. Uh and
and and in in uh Minnesota. Obviously t J. Watt
is gonna be a you know, Uh, Chris Jones had
a little down year. He's been dominant, but they do
a great job of double teaming him, and Colopus has
been has been the beneficiary that Uh. Zach Brown has
(34:34):
played really well this year. I mean he's been a
he's been a tackling machine. Uh, carry Joseph has nine
with nine interceptions. Zavid McKinney I think has eight interceptions.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
I just don't know. I really don't know your where
they're gonna go with defensive player of the Year this year.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
I mean there's there hasn't been one clear dominant player. No,
it's been dominating all season long. Everyone has been playing,
you know, really well.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
All together, but hadn't been one clear person like well,
god damn, every time I watch ESPN or I see
a goddamn highlight, it's him.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
All of them collectively have been playing well.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I guess somebody could go, you know, who might get
it because he's been dominant. Who pass certain?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Oh that's a good one. Hey, oh Joe, he been dominant.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
That's a good one. And he has the numbers to
back up the claim.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah yeah, I mean you look, get the completion percentage,
the quarterbacks what you call him averages against him?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
He's he's been special. Bunking.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Don't your happy New Year question? What do you think
about Davonte going to the Steelers?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Also?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Would you be should you be scared of the Bengals
getting into the playoffs? I think the Bills, Uh, who
should be scared of the Bengals getting into the playoffs.
I think the builder, that's what he said. Man, the
Steelers don't really pay a whole lot of money for
free agent receivers. They like to go into the draft,
get their receivers in the draft bill that way. I
(36:12):
can't remember. I'm trying to say, I can't remember the
time the Steelers have ever signed a free agent receiver, right,
I mean from the time I go back they now,
they normally let them leave.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Ya think pain Mike Wallace, Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Morras, Antonio Holmes, Uh, Emmanuel Sanders, Uh, Antonio Brown, Deontay Johnson.
I mean they normally let guys leave. They don't normally
bring guys in. They like to go through the draft
process get young guys fit this system. I don't see
(36:51):
Davante going to Pittsburgh. You never say never, but I
don't see that happening with the kind of money that
he's gonna want. We know, the Steelers like they like
to stay a little bit under market by you when
it comes to other than the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I really don't see that, Joe.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
What do you think, I don't know, I don't I
don't think it would happen.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
The Juju was another one. Yeah, yeah, they did let
Juju go. I don't know. I'm curious. I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I don't think everybody goin. Hi's the only way if
you think about it.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Uh uh he finished right there.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, I mean you go back to Lewis Lips all
those guys. Oh, obviously Small and Star Wars they retired.
You know what I'm saying, what once you got past that?
That that Super Bowl run of guys. All right, I'm
trying to think. Man, Yeah, I don't I don't see
I don't see him in Pittsburgh. I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I don't either, even though I.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Know it would be it would be a nice fit,
you know, obviously with Russell Wilson throwing to him.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Irwin lichten Berg. Uh, what are your thoughts on Jeremiah
smith potential in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, he's gonna be nice. He's gonna be nice. Listen
right now.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Obviously as a college player, I compared him to the
Julio Jones even as a freshman. What we're seeing right
now from him, which he's had a historic season, he's
only gonna get he goes, He's only gonna get better.
He's gonna get gonna get faster, have a better understanding
of the game from a from an offensive standpoint, you know,
getting better at Man de Man you see, just polish
(38:25):
up that route game, you know just where he has
no What you see right now is you'd have to
nick pick to find a weakness in this game right now,
because he does everything really well, everything really well he does.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
People mentioned Anton Randa lail Antoine randallleill with to the
Washington football team and ended up coming back right DG said,
Happy New Year, Unker not Yo, what team do y'all see?
Jent de fitting best with? Based off the draft order,
I think between Dallas, Denver or Seattle definitely need to
run it back.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
So you think you think he's gonna going in the
first round, Yes, I think yeah. I mean you see
Gibbs and what he's been able to do. Uh, and
you see the re emergence of the.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
Running back like Gibbs is a little different now.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah he got I mean, uh, looking at Genti, he's
faster than you think.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Now. He don't have four to three spins speed like Gibbs. Right,
But I think he's gonna clock four. I think he
clocked low four five.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Okay, you see a four or five running back going
into the first round.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, I mean, look, the thing is a lot of time.
You see they've been trying to push the running back down.
But you look at the teams that got him. Josh
Jacobs his teams in the playoff. Sat Kuon Barkley, his
team's in the playoff. Kyen Williams for the Rams, his
team is in the playoff. Uh King Henry, his team
(39:51):
is in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Go look at your top runners. Bucky Irby, his team's
in the playoffs. Well they win. They and Sunny there
in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
For the most part, I mean the running back has
had a resurgence Ojo Uh and and and and I
think over the last the last year, especially this year,
I think they.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Proved their value.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I think they're reproven their value and and and the
better ones are are starting to really pay up play
big dividends for them their teams. JJ Carver said, hw
is a ring a bigger goal than an all time record.
Rings are won every year. Records are rarely both broken.
(40:33):
I mean you could get both. I think the thing
is is that sometimes people think, well, it's either either or, like,
if you don't take a pay cut, you can't win
a super Bowl. Well, if you don't, if you don't
do this, you can't you can't win a champion. That's
not true, right, that's not true. I would love to
(40:55):
see Sa Kwan break that record.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
But it seems like.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
The Eagles and the Brass from Jeffrey Lowie, Howard Roseman,
the general manager, Jeffery Lewis the owner, obviously Nick Sirianni.
It seems to me they've made the decision and uh
say Kawan says he's at.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Peace with it. I don't know, but he's putting on
the brave face. But they have to break me off.
I can't. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
For to be that close to a milestone just yea
all the time, I can't. I just don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I agree Robert Goldman's Happy New Year's Guys fan since
day one. My wife and I just celebrated our twenty
first wedding out of birthley, can you give him my
wife yasmin g and I shout out. My forty second
birthday is in January January fourth, Bro, that man been
married half his life. He got married when he was
(41:56):
twenty one, and he's still currently married. Hell yeah, Robert,
congratulations man to you and yasmin man. Happy birthday, happy wedding,
whatever whatever you want us to wish. Bro, congratulations for
you to be married half your life at such a
young age. Obviously, Oh you know what I'm saying. I mean,
he's forty two. He got married as a young young man.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Grasping, grasp congrats.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I mean you got married like the more like my
grandparents got mad, cap got married. They you know they
got mad back then, seventeen and eighteen. Yeah, cause hey,
it wasn't that age she get pregnant. Oh you got
oh you married, and you you going down into the
court house, got your lot, you know, got your little
fifteen dollars rain, go right on down to the coal
(42:39):
house and did that. It wasn't no, it wasn't no wedding, no,
no big extravagant. Her parents stand stood next to her,
Your parents stood next to you. Okay, y'all married? Okay,
figured out London Dale. Can I get a prayer for
my grandpa? He suffered a heart attack today. He's okay. Uh,
(43:03):
him and my grandma were celebrating in thirty two years
of marriage. Yes, London bro, sorry to hear about that.
Boston prayers go out to London deal. Uh and his family.
His grandpa suffered a heart attack today, but he says
he's he's doing well.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
He's a good spirit. Uh and the grandma was celebrating
thirty two years of marriage.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
So uh, congratulations on the marriage and uh you know
the uh nightcap, Uh crew is uh praying for speedy
recovery for your grandfather. Leila Rhodes, Happy New Year nightcap.
Oha O Joe, what's your new Year's resolution? I want
to thank you guys for the extra push. I've lost
(43:40):
ten pound so far, starting a new career in education field.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
You got to love you guys. What's your resolution? Don't
Joe went back around? Huh hang here what you said?
What you said? I said, done right now?
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Huh whispering it, I said nothing, go ahead?
Speaker 6 (44:01):
I mean why was this? I mean my newest resolution
is stop stop cursing this year.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
That lasted about twenty two minutes. This year, I want to.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I want to add about thirty more jobs to what
I already have and that's pretty much it. I mean,
I have to discipline in all other areas to continue
doing things the way I'm doing this and just just
stay focused in locked in.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Uh, stay focused, stay focused. I ain't chasing the lives.
I'm gonna let people whatever they say. That's good with me.
I know who I am, I know what I am.
It's not what they call you. What you ass that
you won't yo yeah yeah so, uh but I'm gonna
(45:01):
get the last laughing in. They're gonna be mad, but
it'll be okay. But I think the people that that
sincerely support you and I Nightcap club Sha Sha, they're
genuinely happy for us, for me, for you and what
you do outside of uh A Nightcap and those that
(45:22):
aren't they'll keep trying to bring up stuff and try
to do all this other stuff, but it's not gonna work.
I think that's that's one of the things. And uh,
I gotta find more time. I gotta find more time
to do stuff for Shannon.
Speaker 8 (45:35):
Yeah, like we need to go to d R be
you and Pride. I tell you, y'all clapping for Hey,
I'm gonna take me a little bake. I'm gonna take
me a little minie bake three day vacation.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
You don't call me, call me, we'll be going.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
We'll be going.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Don't talk and don't be talking about the ball. What's
up when you don't worry about what a coming back?
I would do my portion of them show over the
phone as don't call me talking about I walks up
to run by you know, no, I'm on vacation.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Don't run nothing by me.
Speaker 5 (46:19):
J up?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Are you guys proud of my buck? Guys starting my
New Year's resolution? What do you think can happen?
Speaker 3 (46:25):
First? I lose thirty pounds? Oh yo, get to two ten?
See you in uh nolall funny thing about it.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
By the time we get in New Orleans, i'd probably
be by two fifteen.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
That ain't happening, all right.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
You'll see.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Now, you and you you can't even see. Look, look, look,
just look at the camp real quick. Look how god
damn big I am? Or betty Man like I done
got so big? My head look like it don't belong
on my body.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Year me. I'm looking at them off. They don't want
that belong to your.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Body either, They don't.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
That's how big I done got.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
No, it looks like you should be holding aside Gold Bengals.
What we did, what we did the Denver Oh, no, man,
I ain't mean to bring that up a babe. Hold on, y'all.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Do realize y'all had to go to overtime with the
rookie quarterback, right, Okay, that's not Joe, see I want
you now, I want you to remember. That's that's saying,
don't let the Steelers beat you. Don't let the Steelers
win this game.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Did not tell you we was gonna win that game.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I told you that already, right, And don't boy and
when the Broncos beat them, when the Bronco be who
but Carson wentz for the mop? The flow with y'all man,
stop playing?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Okay okay uh, Nick Mars said, mister unc and O
Joe can't wait to see y'all no love. We could
use some thoughts and prayer for tonight. Have a v
I P meet and greet, ticket can explain what what
was involved in that. Leave thanks for all you do.
Get to sit in the front rod likely to get
(48:06):
a call to the stage, get to be old show
and after the show, take a picture Nick, Thank you,
ro appreciate your support.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Yes, yes, there's a lot going on in New Orleans
right now.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Don't know if you're you're referencing that we had a
little at this top of the show, but maybe you
have something a little bit more personal that that's a
little close to the home, that's personal to you. So
we look forward to seeing you and Nola and we
can't wait to have you there with everybody else. But yes,
there's a lot going on currently right now in New Orleans,
and I thoughts and praisers with everyone that's impacted by
(48:38):
that situation, Oh Joe. That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
We want to thank everybody for tuning in and joining us.
As two teams advanced to the semifinals. We watched the
Ohio State buck Guys beat the Orgon Ducks to know
what Orgon Ducks forty one twenty one, and we watch
(49:02):
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advanced to the semifinals after routing Oregon forty one twenty
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suffering an earlier loss in the season. Texas beat Arizona
State and a double overtime thriller. They blew a sixteen
point lead, missed two field goals in the final two
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minutes of regulation, and still escape with a thirty nine
thirty one victory over Arizona State. Sun doubles in the
Peach Bowl even though they were outgained, out rushed, but
does not matter. Texas move on. They will face Ohio
State in the Cotton Bowl, which is probably gonna be
a Jerry's world in it. Yeah, it's definitely not gonna
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be in the Conbowl outside. No, it's gonna be in
Jerry's world. I bet you that's gonna be in Jared's world.
Why she looks up that. But that concludes this episode
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