May 26, 2025 • 52 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume, Jae, we will get you out of here
on this.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're the head coach at Dynamic Prep High School in Irving, Texas.
Max Prepp announced that Dynamic Prep finished number one in
the final Top ten high school basketball ranking. Joe, when
you were playing, did you know always knew you wanted
to be a head coach?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And what's that journey being like for you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Listen, brou I had no idea that I was coach.
I was a head coach, to be honest, well, it's
no man, Honestly, it's been one of those things where
to be completely honest with you, man like I.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You know, I was kind of dealing with some stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I was dealing my own personal issues when it came
to you know, I had a little abandonment issue, you know,
growing up. You know, I met my dad when I
was thirty years old. He died thirteen months later. I
was thirteen years into the NBA when that happened. So
I've always struggled a little bit with this thing. And
and and then obviously after the deal happened in Detroit,
(01:12):
I started, you know, I didn't I didn't love playing
as much anymore, Okay, because of every day and so
when I was done, I wanted to just go and
be with kids, give back what was given to me.
I was fortunate enough when I was a young boy
at Xavier McDaniel start a little team in Columbia, South Carolina.
Tyrone gave back alex English had some camps I used
(01:33):
to go to. So I just wanted to give, you know,
give back to kids, man. And I just really put
my head down and just started, you know, investing into
the community that way. And it's been We've had an
amazing run, you know, with the drive nation the club.
You know, we've had a bunch of lottery picks, uh
and first round picks and even second round picks over
the last eight, you know, eight years. And you know,
(01:54):
I feel like I needed to start a school, which
is more of an impact because you get them five
days a week versus you know, two or three days
a week when it comes to club. So, you know,
I'm energized about it. Honestly, I don't know how long.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm a coach.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'm a coach again next year, but I do believe that,
you know, you have to give back if you have
knowledge and ability to get back to your community, man,
you gotta give give you take those tools and give
back to these young kids. Not on these kids, but
most important, these parents that don't quite understand what it is,
you know when it comes down to the business of
being a pro and approach it that you got to
do every day to become a pro and not skip steps.
(02:29):
And so that's the reason why you know, I do
what I do, and that's why I started doing that
in prep. What you just gotta be honest with him.
Your son not gonna be Lebron James. He's not gonna
be Steph He's not gonna be Michael George. Because you know,
every everybody, every every parent, they kid is that kid.
But you know what I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna
tell you the truth. Okay, the first time ever I
(02:51):
have more parents talk about N I L than they
talk about the pros. Oh yeah, really crazy. They wear
everybody on money there is that are looking to retire
off their kids going to college. And so when you
look at the product, right, the product now, and you know,
(03:11):
when you're talking about the pros, the deterioration of it
is happening at the youth level, right. And so now
you got everybody in place running and go grab kids,
and I got this so I can get you a deal.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And so the parents are so their mind is.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So so so so frazzled, that can't think appropriately. So
they making decisions based off the economics of what they're hearing,
not knowing that that that that true, that true money
percent is really two percent anyway getting the money everybody
ain't getting ain't getting all that right, right, yes, And
so that's the thing where we try to we try
(03:48):
to bring some some real positive information and tools and
attach your day to day with what you say you're
trying to get to, right, And so for us, our
job is to continue to invest into the need to
show people, Hey, look man, this is about the work.
If you do anything about oh Joe, when you guys
coming through, you wasn't worried about where you're gonna where's
(04:10):
gonna be chosen? Right because you was good. Yeah, I
was already chosen, right, That's what I'm saying. So we
weren't about the reps and the work that we got
to put in. I am absolutely making no All Star
game or getting picked for this or getting picked for that.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So that was coming no matter what.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I just got to figure out can my schedule handle
it right?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But right now people are willing to stop working to
try to try to talk about or try to get
something they ain't invest in. No, no, no, sweat echo
into from the start.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And so that's what's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Problematic about everything. And that's why you see in the
transition happened so hard. It was becoming so hard, and
that's why college now coaches are saying, we only trust
twenty five year olds. Yeah, we don't trust high school
kids no more. Which twenty five year olds they had
you pro by now? Yeah, if they've been and started
(05:01):
asking that. I mean, you know, people asking I remember
hearing the question whether Blake Griffin was so good?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Why do you go back for a sideboard sea? What
I mean?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know, if a guy's good, it's like basketball. If
a guy don't come out after freshman year, well man,
he must not be that good. I mean, you're not
gonna You're never You're never gonna see another Tim Duncan.
You're not gonna see a four year superstar like that.
You're not, You're just not. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Man.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It's not them fans mad because they got to eat
send their kids to school, right they want to They
want to skip that damn level two to go get
some money.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's crazy, bro, And it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'm just down at the live period down in Memphis
two weeks ago and I'm talking to the coach. I'm
in the gym talking to the coaches for the clsic
club side, and they said, man, we just hit checking boxes,
so we really getting we really recruiting out of the portal.
And that's staggering to me because again, as a parent,
my kids going to ask and you next year to
play the acc But Charon, I'm looking at this and
(05:58):
I'm trying to you know, I'm still have to count
for the other parents I have. I'm a little bit like, damn,
like really, so these kids you got some kids is
actually really doing it the right way, and he may
get skipped over because the coach is now checked out
because now they so they're too afraid to recruit a
high school kid because they think the high school kid
gonna get him fired. Wow. Well it's a money game now.
(06:23):
So it is kid three four a half a million.
If he don't come there and get busy, the coach
is gone. Okay, And plus The thing is jail is
that you can't coach kid like you. You get on
a kid now he getting into that portal. Ain't no correction.
You just gotta let it. Sometimes it's just like you
gotta let the kid run them up. Like bro, I'm
(06:44):
just trying. I've tried. Yeah, I'm gonna coach you hard
because you sit you say you want to go to
that next level. Yeah, okay, this is what's gonna take
for you to get there. Yep, one hundred percent. And
I'm ana shout out at my school. That's the reason
why we just year three we win it, right, we
know we get break the best prep school because I'm
not about to let no parent come to my program
(07:06):
telling me what to do with the kids. Because you
talk about BeO taking care of your kids. Say, okay, hey,
I want to go to college. I want to be
the best to go to college. I want to go
to the pros. I know that shit right, right, So
which one of y'all play in college ball? Which one
of y'all play in the NBA, the w NBA. Okay,
get back over there, let me do this. But you
(07:26):
know what, you know what I call it? Though, I said, look,
I say this to parents all the time. I said,
would you let a career and I ain't got no
problems with line care people, right, would you let a career?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Line care?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
God do your account? Nah? I said, well why would you?
Why would you mess around with your kid unless somebody
else that is not has no history. You ain't got
to be a pro it has no history of doing
the things of everything that your kids said he inspired
to do. And we see that too many times, man,
And then you know, obviously we got to be a
little bit better in our community and how we work
(07:55):
together as well too when it comes to these kids. Yep, Jail,
thank you for joining us. You got anything you want
to promote working? They find your ig, Twitter, Facebook, anything
you want to get.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
One of them? Yeah, just yeah, I g man. Yeah,
I'm gonna tell you man, I'm gonna start doing a
little bit more. I'd like to come back on sometime soon. Man.
Absolutely love to be on.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You know, I was a little bit again.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I told you about my dad situation, so I never
wanta with my daughter at Texas.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I didn't want to miss a moment with my son.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Now I'm an empty nester, so I'm about to start
hitting these rounds on, you know, and I'm doing stuff
like this with you guys and your TVs.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh, absolutely, your daughter to the volleyball player, right yeah yeah,
yeah yeah, Okay, that's my mini work.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Congratulations on bad man, Jail. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Jermaine O'Neal, six time All Star, three time All NBA
selection from Oa Clear High School in Columbia, South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Jail, thank you for thank you for joining us. Man.
Come back and join us soon. Oh chill, I mit you, mad,
I'm coming down to Miami. Broh, come on, man, come
on down here. Man.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
We can play one on one. All right, we can
do that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'm all right. Appreciate y'all. Man A right, appreciate it, Jail,
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
During a during OTAs this week, aj Brin admitted surprise
at his current mindset coming into the league. We're taught
we're playing for this reason, we're playing for the trophy,
and once we got the trophy, it was just like
I thought everything would be fulfilled, like the hard work
and everything, but no, it's a journey. It's the journey
that matters the most, that means the most, because those
(09:26):
are the moments you look back with your teammates, those
are spending time with you, going to war with You're
suffering together, you're winning together. Yeah yeah, I mean once
you look.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I wanted to be a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I want to build all an All Pro player,
and I wanted to win a championship.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I ain't thinking about no Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I ain't even realize the Hall of Fame until Mark
Kinsler told me in ninety six. Like man, He's like, Bro,
you could put it together a couple more years, you
can go to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I was like what.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I was like, they take seventh rounders in the Hall
of Famer. It's like it don't matter what run get drafted,
and they go by production. I was like, Okay, that
was the first time that I had really even gave
a thought now mind you, Ohoe. In ninety one, we
played in the Hall of Fame game. I went to
that very building that my bus resides in. That's dope,
not even thinking they did never even Doe, Bro, I'm
(10:17):
from Glenville, I'm from Savannah.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
State Hall of Fame. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Joe Green in the Hall of Fame by Terry Bradshaw
Rogers Stalbach. The greats are the greats in the Hall
of Fame legends.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes, but you.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Realize and it's not good enough to make one Pro
Bowl because anybody could do it once. Yeah. Can you
go back when they know you the guy, when they
game plan for your ass? Can you get can you
become an All pro again when they game planning for you? Yeah?
(10:52):
When you walked to the middle of field mat hell
of game shak man O Joe, Hey man, you gave
that work today, O jo A. Don't worry about we
see your ass again. Yeah, that's what I want. I
want where y'all going to meeting on Wednesday. I want
y'all circle to aid that tighty end of eighty four.
We got to deal with him. And I totally agree
with AJ because there's nothing like That's what you O yo.
(11:14):
I never missed the game, I missed the bus rides,
the plane rides, the bull driving in the locker room,
in the training room joking, and the meeting room cracking joke.
That's what you because that's what you're never gonna be
able to replace. Ever, you never, you never and you
look you're not best eating with everybody, but you're not
gonna be around ten eleven guys that y'all laughing at
(11:36):
joking back, You're.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Never gonna be like that again. It's never gonna be
like that again with you.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Nah, It's not. And listen, and just what you just
talked about about A J.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Brown.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I've become a little bit more fond of young bull
Man as of late hearing some of the things he's
talked about. I'm not going to get it into detail
on it, but his perspective on life and other and
other topics that I've seen him speak on.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
He's becoming a huge, a huge favorite of mine. Not
even the receiver A J.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Brown.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'm talking about the human being, the person, the husband,
the person he is and values and morals in which
he stands and said, I never knew that about him.
I never knew it about him because I've never had
the opportunity to interact with him outside of the game
of football. But but hearing him and where he stands,
you know, and in his belief the very very very
(12:33):
admirable from the outside looking in on on what I
thought the individual was like, no, based on what I
see on the field, but in who he truly is
off the field.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I love, dude, man, I love He's real sharp. He's
shock and he got a sharp mind.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So it was a joy to see him in a
different light than.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
What I expected based on the football player that they
got to watch on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I remember we won the Super Bowl and obviously, man,
there's nothing like it. Like I said, we broke the NFC.
The NFC had run fourteenth straight Super bowls oko and
to win it and to hold that trophy, to actually
to actually be on the field, to have the confittie
come down to your colors and you got the trophy. Now,
(13:21):
think about how many times I've seen the Super Bowl
winning team go on the field and get that trophy
and everybody's looking at it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Now I finally have it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, A small kid from Glennville, Georgia, went to Savannah
State and seventh round draft pick and I'm the starting
tight end to announce my name and everything, and everybody
in Glimmer say, you know what, I know somebody actually
played in the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact,
I probably went to school with him, if brother or
his sister. That was me and winning that trophy there
(13:50):
was that was that was like that was. That was
at that point in time, probably the crowning achievement of
my career.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And I remember going into the off.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Season and I'm like, because back then, you know, in
sixteen games on shoe and then you know, we had
to still had the two weeks and so we started playing.
I mean we first week, so I think I think
the super Bowl was damn near like the end of January.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It wasn'tn't it. We didn't bleed into February.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And I just remember, like the off season on show,
I was like, man, so I took I took about
an extra week off and got back into it. And
I remember when we came back to OTA's and Mike
got up in there like, Hey, congratulations, guys, I'm proud
of this. I'm proud of you guys. He said, if
(14:35):
you want to be special, you got to do do
it again. Yeah, there are a lot of teams that
won one in a row. He said, if you want
to do you want to be special, you want to
be remembered.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
We got to go back to back. And that was
the mindset that we adopted.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And I remember once to see we came out of
I mean, we had a we had a great you know.
As a matter of fact, we had a great, uh
training camp.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Everything was great. We're having fun.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And Mike would put one like most teams have their
schedule up there, all sixteen games. We put one game
at a time. He said, this is a sixteen round fight.
We go on one round at a time. Oh, knocked
the Patriots out, and so we just going down, just
check it out, just checking them off, checking them off
(15:23):
for Joe, checking them off thirteen weeks because think about it,
we won our last last game.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, well our last two games ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, when our last two games in ninety seven, now
last game in ninety seven, beat the Chargers. Then we
go through the playoffs, win the Super Bowl. Then we
come out. So we win like eighteen straight games. Oh Joe,
feeling good. Yeah, get to the playoffs. But I agree
with everything he said. There's something about that moment. And
(15:55):
when I get on the phone and I talked to
Burns or me and Ross Smith calling Foots a feed
some of them guys, man, we just hey, man, you repersented.
So we're at the back of the plane, Jonie. I mean,
very few times, O Joe, do we ever talk about
the Super Bowl game itself. We're talking about going to
the game. We're talking about on the plane ride back,
on the bus ride back. Very seldom do we mention
(16:18):
anything about the Super Bowl itself. We always talk about
the plane ride or Man, you remember we got a
man we got snowed in and we had to go
get people on snowmobiles to go to Buffalo. We get
the Buffalo like one thirty two o'clock in the morning
and we got a one o'clock game. Yeah, man, I
bet that was so much fun. Ain't nothing like that?
(16:39):
And nothing like that? And then when you're in it,
o jo, Yeah, you don't get to enjoy it. You don't.
You don't because you're in it and you feel if
you enjoy it, it's gonna take you out of that
mindset of what you need to do to make sure
you try to stay in it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So ain't nothing like that? Hey. A. J.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Brown said he's also upset about the current hair haircut
price in the country.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Haircut price are crazy nowadays.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I used to pay twenty dollars for a cut, Hey, Jay,
ain't no more money cut cut?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
But we I used to pay five.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Two fitty hey, and what I but you gotta realize,
on you, I'll get a haircut in the seventies. He
and my brother, my grandfather get maaded my brother. You know,
four dollars, two to five dollars. Hey, we get both
of us get a haircut in college. That's all you're
giving you a teammate, And I wish I would play
a guy five dollars to cut my haird What times
(17:48):
are different?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Black?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh Joe, Look how you got no problem? You know? Hey,
good sixty dollars for a cut.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm gonna go ahead and timp your phoney, Oh Joe, dude,
be they be wanting two three.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Hundred to cut me.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Man, listen, it's time, listen, John, fifty dollars for apart?
Hold on, you talking about a haircut two hundred dollars
by two steaks at the grocery at the grocery store,
what forty three dollars?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, boy, you well guess what how about y'all there
in the restaurant? Seventy dollars?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Hey, so at least you got two. Hey, they got
to make their money up some kind of way.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
They ain't got no you not look look a lot
of times, a lot of times what happened on Joe
is that if an af if Barber's cut, athletes, celeves
and entertainers, they want to live that lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Right, Bro, you need this.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You need to play, pick up, a play a sport,
You need to act, play an instrument or dance, sing
or something, because you not finna come up on me. Hey,
I grow dreds first. I grow dred I get twists
and I'm not paying no three no cut. I don't
care if I got twenty thirty forty fifty sixty million,
(18:58):
I'm not paying no three of dollar.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's a lot. That's a lot. That is just a cut.
That listen, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Now.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Now what we can say is is about our but
but but our friend not too.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Long ago, who's down here in Miami. Not that kind
of service.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yes, I forgot, I forgot, I forgot an Instagram name,
but for that kind of service.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Not Yeah, one hundred dollars Now, were talking?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
We can we can, we can talk. Yeah, Okay, if
you're gonna cut it, you're gonna diet, you're gonna give
me a facial Yeah, got that now that I understand.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Now, I'm not gonna get that every time, right time
but every so often, you know, you got your nice
little date night with your girl you want you want
to get Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Boom, there you go. Now you're good.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Please man, you think i'ma let.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You're gonna be on my head for cutting my hair
for thirty minutes and I'm gonna go give you three
hundred and then you wanna expect to tip tip? Who tip?
What I gotta till, don't eat excited to ride the bus.
That'll be a terrible experience for everybody. I ain't got
that for Yo Joe dude. But uh nah, I try
to think, hey, j Yeah, well I'm saying I think
(20:10):
I'm trying to think. When I played, how much was
I playing for a cut?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah? I was playing by twenty thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah yeah, I paid the dude cut by hair.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Now you do a good job. I give him.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I give him a hey, I think he's like forty
five fifty ocs of hair.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I give him a.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hunt damn damn. Big money. Okay, yeah, big money. But
he did do a good job of get me in because, like,
like when I was in Atlanta on Yoe, I like
all my I like, I don't like the you know,
I don't do no walk in.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I like a standing appointment.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So for my nails, my facials, my haircut, my massage,
I would pay for the hour, pay for the whole year.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
God damn.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Paid the whole year. Because guess what, o't Joe? When
I say what I say, Hey, I want my time
them more have to move somebody to get men as
opposed to them moving me to get somebody else. He
didn't already paid everything out.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, I donet pay you. I done got back.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Hey, whyn't you? Hey?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah? Hey, I always did that.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And you you complaining about me on you fifty two
hundred and you paying for nails, manicures and headcuts a
whole year.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
They're providing the service. What you doing? You take your
money out of my pockety? I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I can't pay them. I told her, I said I would.
I told them, Bob, I would pay you money. But oh,
you old me fifty nine hundred. I can't pay you.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I ain't never heard nobody do that. Well you b y, Hey,
oh JR. Check this out?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I remember I paid.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I had ran out because I get like so I
got this package and that lady runs a special on facials.
You know, if you go ahead and pay you by twelve,
I get a mustle, she'll give you fifteen. I bought
the package, got the job at Fox. I still got
(21:59):
some old the book. I have some of the books.
I ain't got it no more. But uh yeah, but
I like that. I like a static appointment. They know
I'm coming at this time. Hey, uh, we're not gonna
We're gonna get my massage Monday. I should get massages Monday,
No Wednesday and Friday. That's what my massage, haircut was Thursday,
(22:22):
nails Thursday. I like that. I like know what I like.
I like structure. I like a schedule. I like being
on the schedules. I think everybody knows that. And I'm
gonna be A and I wanna be A and I'm
gonna be I'm gonna be ticked if I come in
there and I gotta wait longer than five minutes because
you know I'm coming. I've already paid you for this time,
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so he don't be trying to get an I can
squeeze you in. Come at two forty five when you
know my appointments at three, because I'm gonna feel some
type of way I'm gonna be sick, So just so
everybody know, should discuss the hate he receives online while
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saying he's planning to be visible in the Cleveland community,
not to nine percent of the hatred directed at me
is towards my pops and then I'm just his son.
But the kids didn't grow up in the era where
they watched them play. It's just the older generation that
does it to me rather than younger people. Because when
I come to a person and there's no negativity, I see,
but it's all over online.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's why I say I like going to ski.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I like going to schools in person and actually meeting
the kids, and any question they have, I say, just
ask me whatever the question you want.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Pick any question, no filter, no anything.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's what they say and I and then I just
answer whatever they need me to answer.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
What you think on Joe, any truth to what he's saying.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, most definitely, most definitely listened. Is the young folks
really don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
They enjoy them.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
But it's the older kids, not older kids, the oldest
older folks in general.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right, that's hating.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And yes, some of the hate does come from his father,
but Also, some of the hate is going to come
from him and what he's been able to accomplish so far,
what people mistake for arrogance or cockiness, which is merely confidence,
which is all he's showing. Some people don't like that.
Some people want to be humble. They want you to
dim your light because it makes them uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, my life, it hurting your eyes, your light shining bright.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
It It might do, but I'm not deming it. Obviously,
he's he's a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
The quarterback position is supposed to carry themselves a certain ways.
It's a way in which he doesn't carry himself.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And he hasn't been given any grace as opposed to
other quarterbacks that were just as boisterous.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know they don't you know.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
What the money Listen, Listen, it's different. It's a double standard,
but it is what it is. So you understand that.
I hope he doesn't change anything. I hope he doesn't
change anything. Just put his head down, do the work
you need to do, and handing your business, and change
the quarterback position, which hasn't been good for the rounds
consistently in a very very long time, since number nineteen,
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since since.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Bernie colsar in the eighties. Yeah, and before that you
got to go back to Otto Graham. So they really
don't have two good quarterbacks. I'm wishing oh Joe well,
I'm wishing him well. Man, Oh yo, You're not gonna
be able to win with people because if I dress nice, Oh,
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he tried to show off. If I dressed down, he
broke you See, ain't no in between. No, it ain't
no in between, because it's you. You you projected, you're projecting. Uh,
the man's confidence. The man believes in himself. Every everybody
that's ever accomplished anything has.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Believed in themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Sometimes you're the only If I don't believe in me,
who else don't believe in me? Exactly when people told me,
shann you ain't gonna do nothing, I believe the one
person that told me I would meet because I was
the one that was gonna be lifting that weight.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I was gonna be the one that was running.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I was gonna be the one that stayed in and
didn't go out and party.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
That was gonna be me. Now, if it didn't happen
on Joe, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Gonna be able to blame anybody because I knew what
I wanted to become. I knew what I wanted to accomplish.
But no matter what you do, if I say, y'all
going out there to do, I'm bragging, then I don't
show up and play well. He's sorry, he terrible. I
told you what I was gonna do. I'm bragging. I
don't do anything. I'm not in the good I dressed
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well or he tried to show off. I got hold
of my he broke hey list, So how do I win?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
By no?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Ca I eat at a nice restaurant. I man, I
wish I would play one hundred dollars for a steak man.
Them dreams cost thirty dollars. They see me that a
fat food chain man, he got h Hey, he can't eat.
He was a fat food chain because he can't eat
the hun You see what I'm saying, O Joe. So
at some point in times, you just got to be
secure in who you are and do what you want
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to do. No matter what do what you want to
do can't please everybody, right and that and that's the
that's the that's the hardest part, is that because before
oh Joe, you didn't have all, you didn't have. We
didn't have social media, so people couldn't jump in your comments.
People didn't have a way of saying anything. I mean
the national media day. You know you had a bad
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game that would tear you up. But now I mean,
everybody jump on your timeline. Everybody got something to say. Everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You have to be in a in an error where
everybody is very sensitive individuals that are in the limelight,
where the it be sports, uh uh, entertainment, entertainment. You
have to be mentally strong. Mentally you do you just
you just have to be. And if you're not, if
you're not mentally strong, you don't need to be in
certain business businesses in general because oh they coming for you.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah sometimes because look, everybody's not happy for your success
and sometimes they want to see you successful until you
become successful. And then you know, I told you, Andrew
Shows told me a great quote. He said, the easier
it is to make money doing something, the more resemful
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and enbious people will become of you. Because everybody feels
like they got a voice and they can talk. So
if you makeing X amount of money, the I can
do that? Why he get to do it that?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I can't you see everybody realize I ain't fit to
be sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I'm not gonna be able to run No. Four three forty.
I'm not gonna be able to hit the curveball, the
slider or the change up. But talking O Joe, you
need to tell me or the camera and the microphone,
and he can make that. He making that kind of
money and making that kind of money. Yeah, So the
easier it is to do something, the more resemful and
nbious people will become of you and it. And I'm
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not look like I said, I wasn't used to this,
O Joe. I wasn't. I wasn't used like Puy. I'm
expecting Kansas City to dislike me. I expect the Raider
fans to dislike me. I'm on the Broncos. We beat
hell out your team. You should dislike me, right, But
what I got into this and I didn't know. I
didn't know I had this even at Undisputed, cause you know,
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I was everybody's favorite uncle.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You know what I'm saying, don't Joe.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I was talking about the George Floyd, I was talking
about Walter Walter Scott.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I was talking about Eric Garner.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I was talking about Sandra, but I was, I was
doing all that stuff on't Joe. We talked about the
Colin Kaepernick skip and I. We talked about it when
everybody else had abandoned it and would nobody touch it.
We touched it and I'm talking about with both feet.
So I was like, I'm on my own night because
everybody kept telling me, Man, you need to be on
your own. You don't need to be taking this YadA YadA, y'ada. Okay, man,
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he'll sell out, he gossip me, he's zested. It's like
with damn, but then they gonna come now. But but
you know what and and uh, you know, lots of
the share that that that comes along with it. I
was like, really, they come along with it. I've always
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felt I wanted the port and damn the fame. M
you know, you hear a lot of people say, oh,
your fame and fortune. Nah, I could I could have
I could have did it. I could have picked the fortune.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I mean, listen, it's nice. It's nice to be the
fortune is very nice. I hear a lot of people
tweet that out. I want I want the money, not
the fame. But it's really hard to have one without
the other. It is it's very hard to have one
without the other. And there there is, there's, there's, there's
no given.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Take well, it all depends on how you accumulated it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
See if you've accumulated in sports, if you accumulated it
in entertainment, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
A lot of these billionaires, they're walk by you. You wouldn't
even know who they were. No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
You wouldn't, yes, you you would have no earthly idea
that such and such is worth a billion, two billion,
eight hundred million, because they didn't make it in a
way that you saw them make it. See if a
guy playing sports here, well, Lebron James has made eight
hundred million and with five hundred million in NBA salary.
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Tom Brady made three hundred plus million dollars in the
NFL salary, So you can see that. But a guy
that invested in Google that you didn't see. A guy
that brought Netflix from the video, you didn't see it.
Somebody had Berkshire half the way, you didn't see. So
and they sitting on tons or they got this invested
in a startup uber and now they ten x fifteen
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x thirty extra money sitting on hordes or cash.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Ojoe, Yeah, walked right by you.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You never know, never never know.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
But uh but you know what, don't Joe?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And and now you see it comes along with it,
that comes along with his territory. I feel bad for
I feel bad, but I think should do or being
in the situation that he's in and being who he is.
I think his daddy's prepared him for this. I think
he's prepared him extremely well. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know, time got it.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You know people say time with self and he's going
back and forth playing football and basketball.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, don't heat the boat, bro, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
If you can make if you can make twenty million
doing one job and you can make another twenty million
doing another job.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
He was like, nah, I don't want that twenty million
over there. You know.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It wasn't like he was doing on the free. They
were paying him to play baseball. Yeah, he leading two
checks and he was good, damn good.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I mean you but it's tough.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I mean some people are some people are delighting that
he got he went into the fifth round.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But I you know, oh, joy, ain't where you go
is what you do once you get there. That's it.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
That's my that's my favorite line, because at the end
of the day, you're gonna have to show one way
or another you for cad War with the first pick.
He's gonna have to show what he can do in
Tennessee all the everybody you would get help and to
show the pass and cleat okay.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You know, and prove you are what you say you are.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And he's flying under the radar right now too now
because of all the attension that yes, and he's flying
under the radar.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I'm wishing him well too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean, I know you from Miami, but everybody, wou
wasn't happen when with the Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Probably not, No, hell no, I didn't care either one thing.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
That my dream ain't yourys. Hey, I don't know what
your dream. I ain't living your dream. I'm living mind. Hey,
it ain't mean I ain't.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
It ain't matter who cared and who cared, not nothing.
I knew what was gonna happen when I got there.
I can tell I tell.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
You that.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I ain't worked this hard to have a cup of coffee.
Oh yeah, you know I tried out for the Broncos.
Oh no, it was gonna be no try try. I
don't know nothing about that, don't Joe. I ain't had
no choice but to make it. That's it. That's it,
the work to put all that years. Think about how
long you've been playing. I think I started playing tackle
football at nine.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, I started at Foe Liberty City Optimists, I mean
Miami Lake's Optimist.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I'll never forget. Yeah, I started playing football at nine
years of age, so nine. It got drafted at twenty
one turn twenty two like two months later.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, so thirteen years that what I mean? Not making
it wasn't no option for me. I knew they had something.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I can do, And now I have a thirteen year
special team career. But I'll go play in the NFL
something and don't live. No, don't give me no chance.
You've been a chance that you want to get out
there now getting the job back.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I'm thinking about that, man, that's so long ago. Yeah,
nineteen ninety eight, Miamon Lakes Optimists. I remember my coach too,
Miami Lakes Optimist, Python's off sixty seventh Avenue.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Why you wasn't no damn four years old in nineteen
ninety eight, What the hell you talking about?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I'm thinking about my first coach. I'm telling you what
I can. I can remember recollect you said nineteen ninety eight. Yes,
I started at four, but I don't remember my coaches
when I started at Yo.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I'm telling you when I first remember my coach Dell
Dunn't yeah yeah with my first coach. His mom was
a substitute teacher, right, and that dad pe smoked all
the kids tell about you want to play football for
my son? You want to play football son?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I like you better? You better you talking to my grandma.
You married boy? Aha, yes, ma'am. Bus dropped me off.
The lady let damn it run me over pulling in
the yard.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well, no, lady, I got the brother with damn Yeah.
You know you could have called.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Damn man. That's that's some good memories. Man. I never
ye Dorsey miss with Western Sol he was my second coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
because you know you, you chick, you picked everybody got
to pick three. You get to pick three players because
I like you do it on Joe, see like I can't.
I came late. They had already started my first coach.
They had already got their team. I already picked, but
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I was gonna play on her team and it and
I was like, I gotta play on his team because
he's gonna take me home.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
You know, hey, if you want breaking. She had to
drop home.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I couldn't play right because and we didn't have a
one car, and my sister was gonna be coming to
pick me up from practice. So Mary say, uh uh Francis,
uh you gonna fetch You're gonna fetch that boy home? Yeah, Mary,
I'll pray him home, Okay. So she brought me home.
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Next year Dorset, I went the first round, brought me
home and then uh what was the guy? Uh Billy shoemaker?
Uhh wow, man, I can't think of the guy's name. Oh,
your damn might have been? Was it Dale Kickltter? Dale
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kicklatter might have been my coach. I gotta I gotta
ask Libery tomorrow. But I got that ride home though, yeah.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And when I.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Played, when I got to the high school, O Joe,
I know was they wasn't supposed to do it, but
you had to because my aunt my sister would drop
my aunt off to all the football games, basketball games
to track me.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
SHP.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
You had to start, damn you. Oh you had to
take my aunt home. Yeah, my aunt ride home. It
be all the guys in my aunt. Hey, hey, coach,
you know my aunt. Oh yeah, she can come on.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That's dope, man. Yeah man, she she would. My aunt
Jane called top. Uh. She went to.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Every football every one of my football games in high school.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Everyone one of my home basketball games.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
She was there. Every one of my track meets. She
was there every last one of them.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Damn, I come out. He I get dressed. Stop you
ready to go?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, she get a she get in the band, she
get on the bus with us, every one of them.
There was some days. As a matter of fact, my
track coach and my high school football coach, coach Hall.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Actually he going to the Hall of Fame. My brother.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
He coached my obviously, he coached my mom. My mom
graduating in sixty. I graduated eighty six, So twenty six years.
He coached fifty years.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yep. He told the doctor, coach on will probably be about.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Oh, coach all, mama eighty one. So coach All, she'll
be about eighty seven, he told the doctor. He said, coach,
how you doing. He said, I'm doing good. He said,
I got one more guy, I got one more boy
to get into the Hall of Fame. And then Doc,
I'm good. After that, I don't care nothing about after that. Yeah, yeah, man,
that joke. He called my sister. He gets in, coach'all,
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I don't know. Okay, when you find out, let me know.
So he got it.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
She drove up there.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
She told him, coach, Allie, but I showed good. So
we just we just booked here. His wife reservation.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Uh. Thank the other day. I think Shelley took care
of the other day.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
That's what That's what makes it special, Ochoe, when you
have a coach that's been a part of this. He
coached my mom, he coached my uncles, my driver's in,
my son, you know, all my aunts, my sister, me,
my brother. And then it was a part of it
because he lived in Savannah. The home games, I look,
I see him on the side. I see him stand
over the side. Had a white guy named Billy Strickly,
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O Joe. Only white guy there all come from Glennville.
The only white guy at the hall. He was at
the That man was so proud, O Joe. He said,
this the priest day of my life. That had to
beat the he was he's the pharmacist so my grandma
would send my sister there to getting medicine. Not have
no money. He said, don't even worry about it. Don't
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even worry about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Billy Strick was at the game, standing standing on the side.
I would see him because he obviously he Ad and
Coachy all knew each other. They be standing there. That's
what that's what, that's what makes it fun. Coach All drive,
he drove to d C drive, the Tennessee Drive to Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
If I'm close Atlanta driving, he coming. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
If it's anything, if it's anything under twelve hours, Coach
All gonna drive.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
He coming.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
We played Carolina in the preseason game. Coach All there.
Coach All there. Yeah, man, because you know when when
they first started, they played at Clemson and then they
got their own stadium. Coach All coming, and uh man,
it's so great. It's a it's a unbelievable feeling that
he gets the experiences. It ain't a whole lot, it
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ain't a whole lot of guys coach to coach two
guys that go to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Uh and he got he's in the coach He's in
the Hall he's in the UH Georgia Coaches Hall of Fame. Man,
he was so proud that he told his men, my
brother went up there and went up there for that man.
That's what it's all about. Oh, Joe, Gravis Hunter. Travis
(41:25):
Hunter had a busy month. First, he was selected number
two overall by the Jacksonville Jacks in the NFL Draft.
Then he graduated Colorado May fifteenth, and on Saturday, he
got married to his longtime girlfriend, Leanna Lenie. He gave
her a gift ceremony worse at least at least six
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hundred k. It's a Mercedes band AMG sixty three bravers
a hundid.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah. I think nice. Yeah they nice.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
But your boy ain't got that kind of bread. Yeah,
bread boy got that out of bread. No, if they
had it, he ain'ybody want to be Oh once you
get to a certain age like myself, O Joe. Yeah,
about to be fifty seven in a month. Yes, sir,
I done had everything. I won't now a yeah you
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want to chill?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I did it? I done? Did it? I done? Did it?
I don't had the Ferrari and the.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Rolls and the Bentley body beds and range I don't
have all that, get it all, but a I'm happy
for the young fellow.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Oh yeah, I made he looks so bad. He looked happy,
very happy.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Man. Listen, that's what That's what it's about at the
end of the day. And I'm glad him and his
wife ignored all the haters on our side. Ignore all
the haters. Everybody gonna have an opinion. Everybody gonna have
to say this, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I am as long as they happy.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Traph focus on what you got to focus on.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Go out there and turn Jacksonville in Duval County upside
the fuck down.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Turn it upside down. We should have that should have
been us many years ago. O yo, never man, Wait,
what's what should have been us? Married? Oh?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Ship right now that I've been trying to get you, man, man, listen,
I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
About you.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Oh I'm getting married. I told you I'm twenty twenty six.
I'm not playing.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you something.
When when the ball, when that ball? When that ball
dropped December.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
What thirty first? Yeah, I ain't got time to play.
I ain't got man.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh, Joe, you had me. I had this white linen outfit.
I was gonna wear this, and listen, you're gonna still
be here. You're gonna still be able to wear it.
I'll tell you that I ain't got time to play.
Ain't nothing out Damn man.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
You're right, you're right, you ain't You know what, Joe,
you're when you're right, you ain't wrong.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
And listen, boy, I ain't got time to play no games.
By I'm jumping the broom. Two of them, yeah, two
of them need be I told you listen, pay attention.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Think about all the stories we've been talked about. Yeah,
all players, basketball players and everyone that's having success. Do
you notice what they all have in common? They all
were married. I want some of that. I want some
of that. I'm telling you, I'm telling you listen, God,
I'm gonna tell you what Grandma.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Just told me. God ain't finished with me yet. He wait,
he's waiting on me.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
I'm not gonna finish the work that needs to be
done with you until I have a foundation to build
it on.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
So I'm gonna go ahead and create that foundation now.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Now now watch that. Everything just just start.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Just and until you pay me fifty nine hundred when
I get on you.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I'm gonna take as long as God till.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Hey, listen, I'm out. I tell you what I'm gonna
I'm gonna tell to God about it.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Let me see what he say.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Let me let me, let me tell you. You need
to tell them the bill about it. Hold on, let
me pray on it. Why you gotta pray on my money?
Speaker 3 (45:05):
No, it's not. It's not about praying all your money.
Just I want to talk to God about it. You
ain't t all them yet. Yeah, we talk.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
He's about are you promised to God? You know, UK
ain't got no patience and I should be trying his patience.
I need to give him his money.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Noah, listen, Jesus got the will. Don't worry about it.
As long as Jesus got.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
The will, be going in the right direction. Well, I
ain't in it, So I need you to pay me
my fifty nine hundred. I ain't anything will that between you? Hey, God,
I need you to cut your I need you to
give you fifty that hundred. The cash I got you.
I got you any pressure, ain't no pressure. Well, congratulations
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mister and missus Hunter, miss Hunter, enjoy your gift. UH
sixty three brad Les eight hundred them things nice to you.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah, yeah, an nice, they real nice, they real nice.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
All right, Now it's time for our final segment of
the evening. It's time for Q and A. Cash said,
y'all talking about haircuts. But imagine what we pay go
to the hair salon robbery but cash hair is the thing.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
We get our.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Haircut every week or sometimes twice a week. Yes, so
just imagine playing bro. Imagine paying every week. That's twelve
hundred dollars. That's twel hundred dollars a month. Oh no,
I know at the time, I was getting my hair
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cut two times a week, right, because you know, being
on television, So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Don't Joe, I have?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
So I get my haircuts.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
I get my haircut Sunday and then I get it
cut again on Wednesday. So imagine three hundred dollars, three
hundred dollars, I six hundred dollars a week, six hundred
dollars a week times four, that's twenty four hundred times twelve.
Damn you you got money, boy? No, no, no, no, I
(47:04):
told y'all off, no damn haircut. But y'all, but but
see y'all be getting a lot of stuff done. Y'all
be you know, y'all. Sometimes y'all get what they what
they call them h laf front they begin.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Y'all, y'all, y'all get way.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
They take ash off, they do they no, I can
see if they're putting the frow on.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, and listen, it's a lot of work goes into day.
And now listen, you gotta think. You got to think
now some of them wigs that they get, yeah, they
get they different prices of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Now they get expensive.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
They Yeah, we can go from two hundred to fifteen
hundred now, dependent depending on you.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Gotta get your last she's done then you got oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. How long? How long? How long?
How long a wig last? For y'all?
Speaker 3 (47:46):
It depends on the person. Depends on the person. Now,
some people take care of the wigs and some people don't. Okay,
they should should last year anywhere from by the good
three weeks, a good three weeks.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
So they got to go back touched up again.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Huh yeah yeah, especially especially you know, you do any
kind of color to it. You can get be on
for you gotta take care you wi some people don't
take care of the wigs though they don't.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Okay, Quentin May said, strip clubs, will you signed for you?
O Joe? He said, script club was the sign for you?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
No no, no, no no no no no.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Well what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Strip club will the sad for me?
Speaker 1 (48:25):
What you were in? Now? You were that booby trap?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I took.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I took, I took twin. I took twin up there,
I took okay, up there, you know.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Matter of fact, man, my oldest my oldest daughters came
with me too.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
M hmm. They had a good time. Huh.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Listen, we had a good time. I ain't throw no money, though,
I ain't throw the money.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Oh they threw the money.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I mean they they had their own money. Though. You
think I'm going to strip club for the spit?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Mike got damn money.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
How do you think I'm the somebody else?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, man, I ain't even paid you. You think I'm gonna
pay them?
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:59):
That that's what I was waiting on you to go there.
That's what I waiting go right outside your head. I
would wait on you said, Yeah, I threw the money
up Oh oh absolutely, Hey, listen, listen.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
I'm all about I'm all about supporting, you know, the
naked hustle. But at that time, I'm not in a
position where I can do that.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Nick Markin said, hey, now that to a postpone. Oh
you'll have another out for your fifty nine hundred. Now
what that man is gonna wait till twenty twenty six
to pay you? Nah, you're right, you're right, get you,
get right you you ain't wrong, You're right. That's what
he's waiting for. Nah he wait, he waiting, he waiting
all that time to pay me my money.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Not really, I can app, I can prepare it to
you right now. No Apple, pay no like cash at.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
You got zell?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Huh no, bag.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Hey, thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're the head coach at Dynamic Prep High School in Irving, Texas.
Max Prepp announced that Dynamic Prep finished number one in
the final Top ten high school basketball ranking. Joe, when
you were playing, did you know always knew you wanted
to be a head coach?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And what's that journey being like for you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Listen, brou I had no idea that I was coach.
I was a head coach, to be honest, well, it's
no man, Honestly, it's been one of those things where
to be completely honest with you, man like I.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You know, I was kind of dealing with some stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I was dealing my own personal issues when it came
to you know, I had a little abandonment issue, you know,
growing up. You know, I met my dad when I
was thirty years old. He died thirteen months later. I
was thirteen years into the NBA when that happened. So
I've always struggled a little bit with this thing. And
and and then obviously after the deal happened in Detroit,
(01:12):
I started, you know, I didn't I didn't love playing
as much anymore, Okay, because of every day and so
when I was done, I wanted to just go and
be with kids, give back what was given to me.
I was fortunate enough when I was a young boy
at Xavier McDaniel start a little team in Columbia, South Carolina.
Tyrone gave back alex English had some camps I used
(01:33):
to go to. So I just wanted to give, you know,
give back to kids, man. And I just really put
my head down and just started, you know, investing into
the community that way. And it's been We've had an
amazing run, you know, with the drive nation the club.
You know, we've had a bunch of lottery picks, uh
and first round picks and even second round picks over
the last eight, you know, eight years. And you know,
(01:54):
I feel like I needed to start a school, which
is more of an impact because you get them five
days a week versus you know, two or three days
a week when it comes to club. So, you know,
I'm energized about it. Honestly, I don't know how long.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm a coach.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'm a coach again next year, but I do believe that,
you know, you have to give back if you have
knowledge and ability to get back to your community, man,
you gotta give give you take those tools and give
back to these young kids. Not on these kids, but
most important, these parents that don't quite understand what it is,
you know when it comes down to the business of
being a pro and approach it that you got to
do every day to become a pro and not skip steps.
(02:29):
And so that's the reason why you know, I do
what I do, and that's why I started doing that
in prep. What you just gotta be honest with him.
Your son not gonna be Lebron James. He's not gonna
be Steph He's not gonna be Michael George. Because you know,
every everybody, every every parent, they kid is that kid.
But you know what I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna
tell you the truth. Okay, the first time ever I
(02:51):
have more parents talk about N I L than they
talk about the pros. Oh yeah, really crazy. They wear
everybody on money there is that are looking to retire
off their kids going to college. And so when you
look at the product, right, the product now, and you know,
(03:11):
when you're talking about the pros, the deterioration of it
is happening at the youth level, right. And so now
you got everybody in place running and go grab kids,
and I got this so I can get you a deal.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And so the parents are so their mind is.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So so so so frazzled, that can't think appropriately. So
they making decisions based off the economics of what they're hearing,
not knowing that that that that true, that true money
percent is really two percent anyway getting the money everybody
ain't getting ain't getting all that right, right, yes, And
so that's the thing where we try to we try
(03:48):
to bring some some real positive information and tools and
attach your day to day with what you say you're
trying to get to, right, And so for us, our
job is to continue to invest into the need to
show people, Hey, look man, this is about the work.
If you do anything about oh Joe, when you guys
coming through, you wasn't worried about where you're gonna where's
(04:10):
gonna be chosen? Right because you was good. Yeah, I
was already chosen, right, That's what I'm saying. So we
weren't about the reps and the work that we got
to put in. I am absolutely making no All Star
game or getting picked for this or getting picked for that.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So that was coming no matter what.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I just got to figure out can my schedule handle
it right?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But right now people are willing to stop working to
try to try to talk about or try to get
something they ain't invest in. No, no, no, sweat echo
into from the start.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
And so that's what's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Problematic about everything. And that's why you see in the
transition happened so hard. It was becoming so hard, and
that's why college now coaches are saying, we only trust
twenty five year olds. Yeah, we don't trust high school
kids no more. Which twenty five year olds they had
you pro by now? Yeah, if they've been and started
(05:01):
asking that. I mean, you know, people asking I remember
hearing the question whether Blake Griffin was so good?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Why do you go back for a sideboard sea? What
I mean?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know, if a guy's good, it's like basketball. If
a guy don't come out after freshman year, well man,
he must not be that good. I mean, you're not
gonna You're never You're never gonna see another Tim Duncan.
You're not gonna see a four year superstar like that.
You're not, You're just not. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Man.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It's not them fans mad because they got to eat
send their kids to school, right they want to They
want to skip that damn level two to go get
some money.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's crazy, bro, And it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'm just down at the live period down in Memphis
two weeks ago and I'm talking to the coach. I'm
in the gym talking to the coaches for the clsic
club side, and they said, man, we just hit checking boxes,
so we really getting we really recruiting out of the portal.
And that's staggering to me because again, as a parent,
my kids going to ask and you next year to
play the acc But Charon, I'm looking at this and
(05:58):
I'm trying to you know, I'm still have to count
for the other parents I have. I'm a little bit like, damn,
like really, so these kids you got some kids is
actually really doing it the right way, and he may
get skipped over because the coach is now checked out
because now they so they're too afraid to recruit a
high school kid because they think the high school kid
gonna get him fired. Wow. Well it's a money game now.
(06:23):
So it is kid three four a half a million.
If he don't come there and get busy, the coach
is gone. Okay, And plus The thing is jail is
that you can't coach kid like you. You get on
a kid now he getting into that portal. Ain't no correction.
You just gotta let it. Sometimes it's just like you
gotta let the kid run them up. Like bro, I'm
(06:44):
just trying. I've tried. Yeah, I'm gonna coach you hard
because you sit you say you want to go to
that next level. Yeah, okay, this is what's gonna take
for you to get there. Yep, one hundred percent. And
I'm ana shout out at my school. That's the reason
why we just year three we win it, right, we
know we get break the best prep school because I'm
not about to let no parent come to my program
(07:06):
telling me what to do with the kids. Because you
talk about BeO taking care of your kids. Say, okay, hey,
I want to go to college. I want to be
the best to go to college. I want to go
to the pros. I know that shit right, right, So
which one of y'all play in college ball? Which one
of y'all play in the NBA, the w NBA. Okay,
get back over there, let me do this. But you
(07:26):
know what, you know what I call it? Though, I said, look,
I say this to parents all the time. I said,
would you let a career and I ain't got no
problems with line care people, right, would you let a career?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Line care?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
God do your account? Nah? I said, well why would you?
Why would you mess around with your kid unless somebody
else that is not has no history. You ain't got
to be a pro it has no history of doing
the things of everything that your kids said he inspired
to do. And we see that too many times, man,
And then you know, obviously we got to be a
little bit better in our community and how we work
(07:55):
together as well too when it comes to these kids. Yep, Jail,
thank you for joining us. You got anything you want
to promote working? They find your ig, Twitter, Facebook, anything
you want to get.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
One of them? Yeah, just yeah, I g man. Yeah,
I'm gonna tell you man, I'm gonna start doing a
little bit more. I'd like to come back on sometime soon. Man.
Absolutely love to be on.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You know, I was a little bit again.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I told you about my dad situation, so I never
wanta with my daughter at Texas.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I didn't want to miss a moment with my son.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Now I'm an empty nester, so I'm about to start
hitting these rounds on, you know, and I'm doing stuff
like this with you guys and your TVs.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh, absolutely, your daughter to the volleyball player, right yeah yeah,
yeah yeah, Okay, that's my mini work.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Congratulations on bad man, Jail. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Jermaine O'Neal, six time All Star, three time All NBA
selection from Oa Clear High School in Columbia, South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Jail, thank you for thank you for joining us. Man.
Come back and join us soon. Oh chill, I mit you, mad,
I'm coming down to Miami. Broh, come on, man, come
on down here. Man.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
We can play one on one. All right, we can
do that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'm all right. Appreciate y'all. Man A right, appreciate it, Jail,
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
During a during OTAs this week, aj Brin admitted surprise
at his current mindset coming into the league. We're taught
we're playing for this reason, we're playing for the trophy,
and once we got the trophy, it was just like
I thought everything would be fulfilled, like the hard work
and everything, but no, it's a journey. It's the journey
that matters the most, that means the most, because those
(09:26):
are the moments you look back with your teammates, those
are spending time with you, going to war with You're
suffering together, you're winning together. Yeah yeah, I mean once
you look.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I wanted to be a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I want to build all an All Pro player,
and I wanted to win a championship.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I ain't thinking about no Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I ain't even realize the Hall of Fame until Mark
Kinsler told me in ninety six. Like man, He's like, Bro,
you could put it together a couple more years, you
can go to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I was like what.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I was like, they take seventh rounders in the Hall
of Famer. It's like it don't matter what run get drafted,
and they go by production. I was like, Okay, that
was the first time that I had really even gave
a thought now mind you, Ohoe. In ninety one, we
played in the Hall of Fame game. I went to
that very building that my bus resides in. That's dope,
not even thinking they did never even Doe, Bro, I'm
(10:17):
from Glenville, I'm from Savannah.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
State Hall of Fame. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Joe Green in the Hall of Fame by Terry Bradshaw
Rogers Stalbach. The greats are the greats in the Hall
of Fame legends.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes, but you.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Realize and it's not good enough to make one Pro
Bowl because anybody could do it once. Yeah. Can you
go back when they know you the guy, when they
game plan for your ass? Can you get can you
become an All pro again when they game planning for you? Yeah?
(10:52):
When you walked to the middle of field mat hell
of game shak man O Joe, Hey man, you gave
that work today, O jo A. Don't worry about we
see your ass again. Yeah, that's what I want. I
want where y'all going to meeting on Wednesday. I want
y'all circle to aid that tighty end of eighty four.
We got to deal with him. And I totally agree
with AJ because there's nothing like That's what you O yo.
(11:14):
I never missed the game, I missed the bus rides,
the plane rides, the bull driving in the locker room,
in the training room joking, and the meeting room cracking joke.
That's what you because that's what you're never gonna be
able to replace. Ever, you never, you never and you
look you're not best eating with everybody, but you're not
gonna be around ten eleven guys that y'all laughing at
(11:36):
joking back, You're.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Never gonna be like that again. It's never gonna be
like that again with you.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Nah, It's not. And listen, and just what you just
talked about about A J.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Brown.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I've become a little bit more fond of young bull
Man as of late hearing some of the things he's
talked about. I'm not going to get it into detail
on it, but his perspective on life and other and
other topics that I've seen him speak on.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
He's becoming a huge, a huge favorite of mine. Not
even the receiver A J.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Brown.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'm talking about the human being, the person, the husband,
the person he is and values and morals in which
he stands and said, I never knew that about him.
I never knew it about him because I've never had
the opportunity to interact with him outside of the game
of football. But but hearing him and where he stands,
you know, and in his belief the very very very
(12:33):
admirable from the outside looking in on on what I
thought the individual was like, no, based on what I
see on the field, but in who he truly is
off the field.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I love, dude, man, I love He's real sharp. He's
shock and he got a sharp mind.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So it was a joy to see him in a
different light than.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
What I expected based on the football player that they
got to watch on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I remember we won the Super Bowl and obviously, man,
there's nothing like it. Like I said, we broke the NFC.
The NFC had run fourteenth straight Super bowls oko and
to win it and to hold that trophy, to actually
to actually be on the field, to have the confittie
come down to your colors and you got the trophy. Now,
(13:21):
think about how many times I've seen the Super Bowl
winning team go on the field and get that trophy
and everybody's looking at it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Now I finally have it.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, A small kid from Glennville, Georgia, went to Savannah
State and seventh round draft pick and I'm the starting
tight end to announce my name and everything, and everybody
in Glimmer say, you know what, I know somebody actually
played in the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact,
I probably went to school with him, if brother or
his sister. That was me and winning that trophy there
(13:50):
was that was that was like that was. That was
at that point in time, probably the crowning achievement of
my career.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And I remember going into the off.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Season and I'm like, because back then, you know, in
sixteen games on shoe and then you know, we had
to still had the two weeks and so we started playing.
I mean we first week, so I think I think
the super Bowl was damn near like the end of January.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It wasn'tn't it. We didn't bleed into February.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And I just remember, like the off season on show,
I was like, man, so I took I took about
an extra week off and got back into it. And
I remember when we came back to OTA's and Mike
got up in there like, Hey, congratulations, guys, I'm proud
of this. I'm proud of you guys. He said, if
(14:35):
you want to be special, you got to do do
it again. Yeah, there are a lot of teams that
won one in a row. He said, if you want
to do you want to be special, you want to
be remembered.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
We got to go back to back. And that was
the mindset that we adopted.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And I remember once to see we came out of
I mean, we had a we had a great you know.
As a matter of fact, we had a great, uh
training camp.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Everything was great. We're having fun.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And Mike would put one like most teams have their
schedule up there, all sixteen games. We put one game
at a time. He said, this is a sixteen round fight.
We go on one round at a time. Oh, knocked
the Patriots out, and so we just going down, just
check it out, just checking them off, checking them off
(15:23):
for Joe, checking them off thirteen weeks because think about it,
we won our last last game.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, well our last two games ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, when our last two games in ninety seven, now
last game in ninety seven, beat the Chargers. Then we
go through the playoffs, win the Super Bowl. Then we
come out. So we win like eighteen straight games. Oh Joe,
feeling good. Yeah, get to the playoffs. But I agree
with everything he said. There's something about that moment. And
(15:55):
when I get on the phone and I talked to
Burns or me and Ross Smith calling Foots a feed
some of them guys, man, we just hey, man, you repersented.
So we're at the back of the plane, Jonie. I mean,
very few times, O Joe, do we ever talk about
the Super Bowl game itself. We're talking about going to
the game. We're talking about on the plane ride back,
on the bus ride back. Very seldom do we mention
(16:18):
anything about the Super Bowl itself. We always talk about
the plane ride or Man, you remember we got a
man we got snowed in and we had to go
get people on snowmobiles to go to Buffalo. We get
the Buffalo like one thirty two o'clock in the morning
and we got a one o'clock game. Yeah, man, I
bet that was so much fun. Ain't nothing like that?
(16:39):
And nothing like that? And then when you're in it,
o jo, Yeah, you don't get to enjoy it. You don't.
You don't because you're in it and you feel if
you enjoy it, it's gonna take you out of that
mindset of what you need to do to make sure
you try to stay in it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So ain't nothing like that? Hey. A. J.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Brown said he's also upset about the current hair haircut
price in the country.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Haircut price are crazy nowadays.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I used to pay twenty dollars for a cut, Hey, Jay,
ain't no more money cut cut?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
But we I used to pay five.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Two fitty hey, and what I but you gotta realize,
on you, I'll get a haircut in the seventies. He
and my brother, my grandfather get maaded my brother. You know,
four dollars, two to five dollars. Hey, we get both
of us get a haircut in college. That's all you're
giving you a teammate, And I wish I would play
a guy five dollars to cut my haird What times
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are different?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Black?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh Joe, Look how you got no problem? You know? Hey,
good sixty dollars for a cut.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm gonna go ahead and timp your phoney, Oh Joe, dude,
be they be wanting two three.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Hundred to cut me.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Man, listen, it's time, listen, John, fifty dollars for apart?
Hold on, you talking about a haircut two hundred dollars
by two steaks at the grocery at the grocery store,
what forty three dollars?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, boy, you well guess what how about y'all there
in the restaurant? Seventy dollars?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Hey, so at least you got two. Hey, they got
to make their money up some kind of way.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
They ain't got no you not look look a lot
of times, a lot of times what happened on Joe
is that if an af if Barber's cut, athletes, celeves
and entertainers, they want to live that lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Right, Bro, you need this.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You need to play, pick up, a play a sport,
You need to act, play an instrument or dance, sing
or something, because you not finna come up on me. Hey,
I grow dreds first. I grow dred I get twists
and I'm not paying no three no cut. I don't
care if I got twenty thirty forty fifty sixty million,
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I'm not paying no three of dollar.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's a lot. That's a lot. That is just a cut.
That listen, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Now.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Now what we can say is is about our but
but but our friend not too.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Long ago, who's down here in Miami. Not that kind
of service.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yes, I forgot, I forgot, I forgot an Instagram name,
but for that kind of service.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Not Yeah, one hundred dollars Now, were talking?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
We can we can, we can talk. Yeah, Okay, if
you're gonna cut it, you're gonna diet, you're gonna give
me a facial Yeah, got that now that I understand.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Now, I'm not gonna get that every time, right time
but every so often, you know, you got your nice
little date night with your girl you want you want
to get Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Boom, there you go. Now you're good.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Please man, you think i'ma let.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You're gonna be on my head for cutting my hair
for thirty minutes and I'm gonna go give you three
hundred and then you wanna expect to tip tip? Who tip?
What I gotta till, don't eat excited to ride the bus.
That'll be a terrible experience for everybody. I ain't got
that for Yo Joe dude. But uh nah, I try
to think, hey, j Yeah, well I'm saying I think
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I'm trying to think. When I played, how much was
I playing for a cut?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah? I was playing by twenty thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah yeah, I paid the dude cut by hair.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Now you do a good job. I give him.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I give him a hey, I think he's like forty
five fifty ocs of hair.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I give him a.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hunt damn damn. Big money. Okay, yeah, big money. But
he did do a good job of get me in because, like,
like when I was in Atlanta on Yoe, I like
all my I like, I don't like the you know,
I don't do no walk in.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I like a standing appointment.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So for my nails, my facials, my haircut, my massage,
I would pay for the hour, pay for the whole year.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
God damn.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Paid the whole year. Because guess what, o't Joe? When
I say what I say, Hey, I want my time
them more have to move somebody to get men as
opposed to them moving me to get somebody else. He
didn't already paid everything out.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, I donet pay you. I done got back.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Hey, whyn't you? Hey?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah? Hey, I always did that.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And you you complaining about me on you fifty two
hundred and you paying for nails, manicures and headcuts a
whole year.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
They're providing the service. What you doing? You take your
money out of my pockety? I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I can't pay them. I told her, I said I would.
I told them, Bob, I would pay you money. But oh,
you old me fifty nine hundred. I can't pay you.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I ain't never heard nobody do that. Well you b y, Hey,
oh JR. Check this out?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I remember I paid.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I had ran out because I get like so I
got this package and that lady runs a special on facials.
You know, if you go ahead and pay you by twelve,
I get a mustle, she'll give you fifteen. I bought
the package, got the job at Fox. I still got
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some old the book. I have some of the books.
I ain't got it no more. But uh yeah, but
I like that. I like a static appointment. They know
I'm coming at this time. Hey, uh, we're not gonna
We're gonna get my massage Monday. I should get massages Monday,
No Wednesday and Friday. That's what my massage, haircut was Thursday,
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nails Thursday. I like that. I like know what I like.
I like structure. I like a schedule. I like being
on the schedules. I think everybody knows that. And I'm
gonna be A and I wanna be A and I'm
gonna be I'm gonna be ticked if I come in
there and I gotta wait longer than five minutes because
you know I'm coming. I've already paid you for this time,
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so he don't be trying to get an I can
squeeze you in. Come at two forty five when you
know my appointments at three, because I'm gonna feel some
type of way I'm gonna be sick, So just so
everybody know, should discuss the hate he receives online while
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saying he's planning to be visible in the Cleveland community,
not to nine percent of the hatred directed at me
is towards my pops and then I'm just his son.
But the kids didn't grow up in the era where
they watched them play. It's just the older generation that
does it to me rather than younger people. Because when
I come to a person and there's no negativity, I see,
but it's all over online.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's why I say I like going to ski.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I like going to schools in person and actually meeting
the kids, and any question they have, I say, just
ask me whatever the question you want.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Pick any question, no filter, no anything.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's what they say and I and then I just
answer whatever they need me to answer.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
What you think on Joe, any truth to what he's saying.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, most definitely, most definitely listened. Is the young folks
really don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
They enjoy them.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
But it's the older kids, not older kids, the oldest
older folks in general.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right, that's hating.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And yes, some of the hate does come from his father,
but Also, some of the hate is going to come
from him and what he's been able to accomplish so far,
what people mistake for arrogance or cockiness, which is merely confidence,
which is all he's showing. Some people don't like that.
Some people want to be humble. They want you to
dim your light because it makes them uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, my life, it hurting your eyes, your light shining bright.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
It It might do, but I'm not deming it. Obviously,
he's he's a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
The quarterback position is supposed to carry themselves a certain ways.
It's a way in which he doesn't carry himself.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And he hasn't been given any grace as opposed to
other quarterbacks that were just as boisterous.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know they don't you know.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
What the money Listen, Listen, it's different. It's a double standard,
but it is what it is. So you understand that.
I hope he doesn't change anything. I hope he doesn't
change anything. Just put his head down, do the work
you need to do, and handing your business, and change
the quarterback position, which hasn't been good for the rounds
consistently in a very very long time, since number nineteen,
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since since.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Bernie colsar in the eighties. Yeah, and before that you
got to go back to Otto Graham. So they really
don't have two good quarterbacks. I'm wishing oh Joe well,
I'm wishing him well. Man, Oh yo, You're not gonna
be able to win with people because if I dress nice, Oh,
(25:27):
he tried to show off. If I dressed down, he
broke you See, ain't no in between. No, it ain't
no in between, because it's you. You you projected, you're projecting. Uh,
the man's confidence. The man believes in himself. Every everybody
that's ever accomplished anything has.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Believed in themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Sometimes you're the only If I don't believe in me,
who else don't believe in me? Exactly when people told me,
shann you ain't gonna do nothing, I believe the one
person that told me I would meet because I was
the one that was gonna be lifting that weight.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I was gonna be the one that was running.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I was gonna be the one that stayed in and
didn't go out and party.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
That was gonna be me. Now, if it didn't happen
on Joe, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Gonna be able to blame anybody because I knew what
I wanted to become. I knew what I wanted to accomplish.
But no matter what you do, if I say, y'all
going out there to do, I'm bragging, then I don't
show up and play well. He's sorry, he terrible. I
told you what I was gonna do. I'm bragging. I
don't do anything. I'm not in the good I dressed
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well or he tried to show off. I got hold
of my he broke hey list, So how do I win?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
By no?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Ca I eat at a nice restaurant. I man, I
wish I would play one hundred dollars for a steak man.
Them dreams cost thirty dollars. They see me that a
fat food chain man, he got h Hey, he can't eat.
He was a fat food chain because he can't eat
the hun You see what I'm saying, O Joe. So
at some point in times, you just got to be
secure in who you are and do what you want
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to do. No matter what do what you want to
do can't please everybody, right and that and that's the
that's the that's the hardest part, is that because before
oh Joe, you didn't have all, you didn't have. We
didn't have social media, so people couldn't jump in your comments.
People didn't have a way of saying anything. I mean
the national media day. You know you had a bad
(27:27):
game that would tear you up. But now I mean,
everybody jump on your timeline. Everybody got something to say. Everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You have to be in a in an error where
everybody is very sensitive individuals that are in the limelight,
where the it be sports, uh uh, entertainment, entertainment. You
have to be mentally strong. Mentally you do you just
you just have to be. And if you're not, if
you're not mentally strong, you don't need to be in
certain business businesses in general because oh they coming for you.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah sometimes because look, everybody's not happy for your success
and sometimes they want to see you successful until you
become successful. And then you know, I told you, Andrew
Shows told me a great quote. He said, the easier
it is to make money doing something, the more resemful
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and enbious people will become of you. Because everybody feels
like they got a voice and they can talk. So
if you makeing X amount of money, the I can
do that? Why he get to do it that?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I can't you see everybody realize I ain't fit to
be sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I'm not gonna be able to run No. Four three forty.
I'm not gonna be able to hit the curveball, the
slider or the change up. But talking O Joe, you
need to tell me or the camera and the microphone,
and he can make that. He making that kind of
money and making that kind of money. Yeah, So the
easier it is to do something, the more resemful and
nbious people will become of you and it. And I'm
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not look like I said, I wasn't used to this,
O Joe. I wasn't. I wasn't used like Puy. I'm
expecting Kansas City to dislike me. I expect the Raider
fans to dislike me. I'm on the Broncos. We beat
hell out your team. You should dislike me, right, But
what I got into this and I didn't know. I
didn't know I had this even at Undisputed, cause you know,
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I was everybody's favorite uncle.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You know what I'm saying, don't Joe.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I was talking about the George Floyd, I was talking
about Walter Walter Scott.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I was talking about Eric Garner.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I was talking about Sandra, but I was, I was
doing all that stuff on't Joe. We talked about the
Colin Kaepernick skip and I. We talked about it when
everybody else had abandoned it and would nobody touch it.
We touched it and I'm talking about with both feet.
So I was like, I'm on my own night because
everybody kept telling me, Man, you need to be on
your own. You don't need to be taking this YadA YadA, y'ada. Okay, man,
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he'll sell out, he gossip me, he's zested. It's like
with damn, but then they gonna come now. But but
you know what and and uh, you know, lots of
the share that that that comes along with it. I
was like, really, they come along with it. I've always
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felt I wanted the port and damn the fame. M
you know, you hear a lot of people say, oh,
your fame and fortune. Nah, I could I could have
I could have did it. I could have picked the fortune.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I mean, listen, it's nice. It's nice to be the
fortune is very nice. I hear a lot of people
tweet that out. I want I want the money, not
the fame. But it's really hard to have one without
the other. It is it's very hard to have one
without the other. And there there is, there's, there's, there's
no given.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Take well, it all depends on how you accumulated it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
See if you've accumulated in sports, if you accumulated it
in entertainment, it's hard.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
A lot of these billionaires, they're walk by you. You wouldn't
even know who they were. No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
You wouldn't, yes, you you would have no earthly idea
that such and such is worth a billion, two billion,
eight hundred million, because they didn't make it in a
way that you saw them make it. See if a
guy playing sports here, well, Lebron James has made eight
hundred million and with five hundred million in NBA salary.
(31:10):
Tom Brady made three hundred plus million dollars in the
NFL salary, So you can see that. But a guy
that invested in Google that you didn't see. A guy
that brought Netflix from the video, you didn't see it.
Somebody had Berkshire half the way, you didn't see. So
and they sitting on tons or they got this invested
in a startup uber and now they ten x fifteen
(31:34):
x thirty extra money sitting on hordes or cash.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Ojoe, Yeah, walked right by you.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You never know, never never know.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
But uh but you know what, don't Joe?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And and now you see it comes along with it,
that comes along with his territory. I feel bad for
I feel bad, but I think should do or being
in the situation that he's in and being who he is.
I think his daddy's prepared him for this. I think
he's prepared him extremely well. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know, time got it.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You know people say time with self and he's going
back and forth playing football and basketball.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, don't heat the boat, bro, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
If you can make if you can make twenty million
doing one job and you can make another twenty million
doing another job.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
He was like, nah, I don't want that twenty million
over there. You know.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It wasn't like he was doing on the free. They
were paying him to play baseball. Yeah, he leading two
checks and he was good, damn good.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I mean you but it's tough.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I mean some people are some people are delighting that
he got he went into the fifth round.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But I you know, oh, joy, ain't where you go
is what you do once you get there. That's it.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
That's my that's my favorite line, because at the end
of the day, you're gonna have to show one way
or another you for cad War with the first pick.
He's gonna have to show what he can do in
Tennessee all the everybody you would get help and to
show the pass and cleat okay.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You know, and prove you are what you say you are.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And he's flying under the radar right now too now
because of all the attension that yes, and he's flying
under the radar.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I'm wishing him well too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean, I know you from Miami, but everybody, wou
wasn't happen when with the Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Probably not, No, hell no, I didn't care either one thing.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
That my dream ain't yourys. Hey, I don't know what
your dream. I ain't living your dream. I'm living mind. Hey,
it ain't mean I ain't.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
It ain't matter who cared and who cared, not nothing.
I knew what was gonna happen when I got there.
I can tell I tell.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
You that.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I ain't worked this hard to have a cup of coffee.
Oh yeah, you know I tried out for the Broncos.
Oh no, it was gonna be no try try. I
don't know nothing about that, don't Joe. I ain't had
no choice but to make it. That's it. That's it,
the work to put all that years. Think about how
long you've been playing. I think I started playing tackle
football at nine.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, I started at Foe Liberty City Optimists, I mean
Miami Lake's Optimist.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I'll never forget. Yeah, I started playing football at nine
years of age, so nine. It got drafted at twenty
one turn twenty two like two months later.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, so thirteen years that what I mean? Not making
it wasn't no option for me. I knew they had something.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I can do, And now I have a thirteen year
special team career. But I'll go play in the NFL
something and don't live. No, don't give me no chance.
You've been a chance that you want to get out
there now getting the job back.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I'm thinking about that, man, that's so long ago. Yeah,
nineteen ninety eight, Miamon Lakes Optimists. I remember my coach too,
Miami Lakes Optimist, Python's off sixty seventh Avenue.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Why you wasn't no damn four years old in nineteen
ninety eight, What the hell you talking about?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I'm thinking about my first coach. I'm telling you what
I can. I can remember recollect you said nineteen ninety eight. Yes,
I started at four, but I don't remember my coaches
when I started at Yo.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I'm telling you when I first remember my coach Dell
Dunn't yeah yeah with my first coach. His mom was
a substitute teacher, right, and that dad pe smoked all
the kids tell about you want to play football for
my son? You want to play football son?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I like you better? You better you talking to my grandma.
You married boy? Aha, yes, ma'am. Bus dropped me off.
The lady let damn it run me over pulling in
the yard.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well, no, lady, I got the brother with damn Yeah.
You know you could have called.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Damn man. That's that's some good memories. Man. I never
ye Dorsey miss with Western Sol he was my second coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
because you know you, you chick, you picked everybody got
to pick three. You get to pick three players because
I like you do it on Joe, see like I can't.
I came late. They had already started my first coach.
They had already got their team. I already picked, but
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I was gonna play on her team and it and
I was like, I gotta play on his team because
he's gonna take me home.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
You know, hey, if you want breaking. She had to
drop home.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I couldn't play right because and we didn't have a
one car, and my sister was gonna be coming to
pick me up from practice. So Mary say, uh uh Francis,
uh you gonna fetch You're gonna fetch that boy home? Yeah, Mary,
I'll pray him home, Okay. So she brought me home.
(36:42):
Next year Dorset, I went the first round, brought me
home and then uh what was the guy? Uh Billy shoemaker?
Uhh wow, man, I can't think of the guy's name. Oh,
your damn might have been? Was it Dale Kickltter? Dale
(37:04):
kicklatter might have been my coach. I gotta I gotta
ask Libery tomorrow. But I got that ride home though, yeah.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And when I.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Played, when I got to the high school, O Joe,
I know was they wasn't supposed to do it, but
you had to because my aunt my sister would drop
my aunt off to all the football games, basketball games
to track me.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
SHP.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
You had to start, damn you. Oh you had to
take my aunt home. Yeah, my aunt ride home. It
be all the guys in my aunt. Hey, hey, coach,
you know my aunt. Oh yeah, she can come on.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That's dope, man. Yeah man, she she would. My aunt
Jane called top. Uh. She went to.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Every football every one of my football games in high school.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Everyone one of my home basketball games.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
She was there. Every one of my track meets. She
was there every last one of them.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Damn, I come out. He I get dressed. Stop you
ready to go?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, she get a she get in the band, she
get on the bus with us, every one of them.
There was some days. As a matter of fact, my
track coach and my high school football coach, coach Hall.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Actually he going to the Hall of Fame. My brother.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
He coached my obviously, he coached my mom. My mom
graduating in sixty. I graduated eighty six, So twenty six years.
He coached fifty years.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yep. He told the doctor, coach on will probably be about.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Oh, coach all, mama eighty one. So coach All, she'll
be about eighty seven, he told the doctor. He said, coach,
how you doing. He said, I'm doing good. He said,
I got one more guy, I got one more boy
to get into the Hall of Fame. And then Doc,
I'm good. After that, I don't care nothing about after that. Yeah, yeah, man,
that joke. He called my sister. He gets in, coach'all,
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I don't know. Okay, when you find out, let me know.
So he got it.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
She drove up there.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
She told him, coach, Allie, but I showed good. So
we just we just booked here. His wife reservation.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Uh. Thank the other day. I think Shelley took care
of the other day.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
That's what That's what makes it special, Ochoe, when you
have a coach that's been a part of this. He
coached my mom, he coached my uncles, my driver's in,
my son, you know, all my aunts, my sister, me,
my brother. And then it was a part of it
because he lived in Savannah. The home games, I look,
I see him on the side. I see him stand
over the side. Had a white guy named Billy Strickly,
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O Joe. Only white guy there all come from Glennville.
The only white guy at the hall. He was at
the That man was so proud, O Joe. He said,
this the priest day of my life. That had to
beat the he was he's the pharmacist so my grandma
would send my sister there to getting medicine. Not have
no money. He said, don't even worry about it. Don't
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even worry about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Billy Strick was at the game, standing standing on the side.
I would see him because he obviously he Ad and
Coachy all knew each other. They be standing there. That's
what that's what, that's what makes it fun. Coach All drive,
he drove to d C drive, the Tennessee Drive to Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
If I'm close Atlanta driving, he coming. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
If it's anything, if it's anything under twelve hours, Coach
All gonna drive.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
He coming.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
We played Carolina in the preseason game. Coach All there.
Coach All there. Yeah, man, because you know when when
they first started, they played at Clemson and then they
got their own stadium. Coach All coming, and uh man,
it's so great. It's a it's a unbelievable feeling that
he gets the experiences. It ain't a whole lot, it
(41:04):
ain't a whole lot of guys coach to coach two
guys that go to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Uh and he got he's in the coach He's in
the Hall he's in the UH Georgia Coaches Hall of Fame. Man,
he was so proud that he told his men, my
brother went up there and went up there for that man.
That's what it's all about. Oh, Joe, Gravis Hunter. Travis
(41:25):
Hunter had a busy month. First, he was selected number
two overall by the Jacksonville Jacks in the NFL Draft.
Then he graduated Colorado May fifteenth, and on Saturday, he
got married to his longtime girlfriend, Leanna Lenie. He gave
her a gift ceremony worse at least at least six
(41:47):
hundred k. It's a Mercedes band AMG sixty three bravers
a hundid.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah. I think nice. Yeah they nice.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
But your boy ain't got that kind of bread. Yeah,
bread boy got that out of bread. No, if they
had it, he ain'ybody want to be Oh once you
get to a certain age like myself, O Joe. Yeah,
about to be fifty seven in a month. Yes, sir,
I done had everything. I won't now a yeah you
(42:17):
want to chill?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I did it? I done? Did it? I done? Did it?
I don't had the Ferrari and the.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Rolls and the Bentley body beds and range I don't
have all that, get it all, but a I'm happy
for the young fellow.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Oh yeah, I made he looks so bad. He looked happy,
very happy.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Man. Listen, that's what That's what it's about at the
end of the day. And I'm glad him and his
wife ignored all the haters on our side. Ignore all
the haters. Everybody gonna have an opinion. Everybody gonna have
to say this, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I am as long as they happy.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Traph focus on what you got to focus on.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Go out there and turn Jacksonville in Duval County upside
the fuck down.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Turn it upside down. We should have that should have
been us many years ago. O yo, never man, Wait,
what's what should have been us? Married? Oh?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Ship right now that I've been trying to get you, man, man, listen,
I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
About you.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Oh I'm getting married. I told you I'm twenty twenty six.
I'm not playing.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you something.
When when the ball, when that ball? When that ball
dropped December.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
What thirty first? Yeah, I ain't got time to play.
I ain't got man.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh, Joe, you had me. I had this white linen outfit.
I was gonna wear this, and listen, you're gonna still
be here. You're gonna still be able to wear it.
I'll tell you that I ain't got time to play.
Ain't nothing out Damn man.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
You're right, you're right, you ain't You know what, Joe,
you're when you're right, you ain't wrong.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
And listen, boy, I ain't got time to play no games.
By I'm jumping the broom. Two of them, yeah, two
of them need be I told you listen, pay attention.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Think about all the stories we've been talked about. Yeah,
all players, basketball players and everyone that's having success. Do
you notice what they all have in common? They all
were married. I want some of that. I want some
of that. I'm telling you, I'm telling you listen, God,
I'm gonna tell you what Grandma.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Just told me. God ain't finished with me yet. He wait,
he's waiting on me.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
I'm not gonna finish the work that needs to be
done with you until I have a foundation to build
it on.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
So I'm gonna go ahead and create that foundation now.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Now now watch that. Everything just just start.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Just and until you pay me fifty nine hundred when
I get on you.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I'm gonna take as long as God till.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Hey, listen, I'm out. I tell you what I'm gonna
I'm gonna tell to God about it.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Let me see what he say.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Let me let me, let me tell you. You need
to tell them the bill about it. Hold on, let
me pray on it. Why you gotta pray on my money?
Speaker 3 (45:05):
No, it's not. It's not about praying all your money.
Just I want to talk to God about it. You
ain't t all them yet. Yeah, we talk.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
He's about are you promised to God? You know, UK
ain't got no patience and I should be trying his patience.
I need to give him his money.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Noah, listen, Jesus got the will. Don't worry about it.
As long as Jesus got.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
The will, be going in the right direction. Well, I
ain't in it, So I need you to pay me
my fifty nine hundred. I ain't anything will that between you? Hey, God,
I need you to cut your I need you to
give you fifty that hundred. The cash I got you.
I got you any pressure, ain't no pressure. Well, congratulations
(45:46):
mister and missus Hunter, miss Hunter, enjoy your gift. UH
sixty three brad Les eight hundred them things nice to you.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah, yeah, an nice, they real nice, they real nice.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
All right, Now it's time for our final segment of
the evening. It's time for Q and A. Cash said,
y'all talking about haircuts. But imagine what we pay go
to the hair salon robbery but cash hair is the thing.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
We get our.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Haircut every week or sometimes twice a week. Yes, so
just imagine playing bro. Imagine paying every week. That's twelve
hundred dollars. That's twel hundred dollars a month. Oh no,
I know at the time, I was getting my hair
(46:36):
cut two times a week, right, because you know, being
on television, So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Don't Joe, I have?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
So I get my haircuts.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
I get my haircut Sunday and then I get it
cut again on Wednesday. So imagine three hundred dollars, three
hundred dollars, I six hundred dollars a week, six hundred
dollars a week times four, that's twenty four hundred times twelve.
Damn you you got money, boy? No, no, no, no, I
(47:04):
told y'all off, no damn haircut. But y'all, but but
see y'all be getting a lot of stuff done. Y'all
be you know, y'all. Sometimes y'all get what they what
they call them h laf front they begin.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Y'all, y'all, y'all get way.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
They take ash off, they do they no, I can
see if they're putting the frow on.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, and listen, it's a lot of work goes into day.
And now listen, you gotta think. You got to think
now some of them wigs that they get, yeah, they
get they different prices of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Now they get expensive.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
They Yeah, we can go from two hundred to fifteen
hundred now, dependent depending on you.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Gotta get your last she's done then you got oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. How long? How long? How long?
How long a wig last? For y'all?
Speaker 3 (47:46):
It depends on the person. Depends on the person. Now,
some people take care of the wigs and some people don't. Okay,
they should should last year anywhere from by the good
three weeks, a good three weeks.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
So they got to go back touched up again.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Huh yeah yeah, especially especially you know, you do any
kind of color to it. You can get be on
for you gotta take care you wi some people don't
take care of the wigs though they don't.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Okay, Quentin May said, strip clubs, will you signed for you?
O Joe? He said, script club was the sign for you?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
No no, no, no no no no no.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Well what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Strip club will the sad for me?
Speaker 1 (48:25):
What you were in? Now? You were that booby trap?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I took.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I took, I took twin. I took twin up there,
I took okay, up there, you know.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Matter of fact, man, my oldest my oldest daughters came
with me too.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
M hmm. They had a good time. Huh.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Listen, we had a good time. I ain't throw no money, though,
I ain't throw the money.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Oh they threw the money.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I mean they they had their own money. Though. You
think I'm going to strip club for the spit?
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Mike got damn money.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
How do you think I'm the somebody else?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, man, I ain't even paid you. You think I'm gonna
pay them?
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:59):
That that's what I was waiting on you to go there.
That's what I waiting go right outside your head. I
would wait on you said, Yeah, I threw the money
up Oh oh absolutely, Hey, listen, listen.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
I'm all about I'm all about supporting, you know, the
naked hustle. But at that time, I'm not in a
position where I can do that.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Nick Markin said, hey, now that to a postpone. Oh
you'll have another out for your fifty nine hundred. Now
what that man is gonna wait till twenty twenty six
to pay you? Nah, you're right, you're right, get you,
get right you you ain't wrong, You're right. That's what
he's waiting for. Nah he wait, he waiting, he waiting
all that time to pay me my money.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Not really, I can app, I can prepare it to
you right now. No Apple, pay no like cash at.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
You got zell?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Huh no, bag.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Hey, thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
For joining us for another episode of Nightcap. You watch
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