Nightcap Hour 2: Sports Illustrated TOP 5 NFL QBs: Where's BAKER MAYFIELD? + Shannon Sharpe 4th BEST 7th ROUND PICK?!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
After five weeks, Sports Illustrated has dropped the NFL quarterback ranking.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Here they are.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Josh Allen is number one, Patrick Mahomes is number two.
I'm only gonna do the top ten. Matthew Stafford is three,
Lamar Jackson is four, Jered Goff is five, Dak Prescott
is six, Baker Mayfield is seven. Justin Herbert it's eight,
Jordan Love is nine, Drake may is ten. Okay, just
for the sake of right, we'll go through fifteen. Daniel

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Jones is eleven, Jaydon Daniels is twelfth, Sam Donald's thirteenth,
Jalen Hurts is fourteenth, c J. Stroud is fifteenth, Bow
Knicks is twenty, Jake Browning is thirty.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Can I be honest with you, yes, I'm not sure
when they made that list, but Daniel Jones and Baker
Mayfield belongs somewhere to the top along with Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeh.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
If we're just talking about this year, Baker Mayfield got
to be in the top.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Five, Bacon Mayfield and Josh Allen whatever listen this is
and w whatever it came out, it was basing sure
done so far up into up to this week in
the season, week five or week six, whatever, Well, yes,
for sure, Daniel Jones and Baker Mayfield deserve to be
on the top of that somewhere. Sam Donald needs to
be in there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, if we're just starting baking it on this week, right,
I'm not so sure that Baker Mayfield shouldn't be one.
All Right, we're not Look, we're not talking about. Look,
we understand what Josh Allen's done. We understand Patrick Mahomes
is done, we understand with Matthew Stafford's done, and we
know the MVPs that Lamar's done. But if we're talking
if we're basing it on the first five weeks of

(01:32):
this season been having out those guys, having out played
Baker Mayfield, I'm sorry. And y'all know how I feel
about Patrick Mahomes and I love everybody that they got ranked,
but they have not played. There are not six quarterbacks
playing better than Baker Mayfield. That is a lie. I
don't care what your fan base is. I don't care
if your bill, I don't care if your achieved. I

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don't care if you're the Rams Baltimore. There are not
seven six quarterbacks playing the quarterback position better than Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
They're not hell shit or Daniel Jones for that matter, No,
they're not. He's a surprised I didn't know. I mean,
I could be. I'm one of them. I was a culprit,
you know, who felt he wasn't going to succeed.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, third, he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Based on what we saw from him in New York.
And for him to come to Indy and do what
he's doing, I'm like, man, what in the world he done?
Flip the whole script in the EB system. He's playing
phenomenal football man. So I wanted to be the first
to say I apologize and I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I told you to go start. You ain't paying.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Was the guy that the incombing guy, the incumbent starter,
which is Richardson, is making four or five million. They
bring a backup in making fourteen million, and you think
the guys making fourteen million gonna be on the bench.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh yeah, that wasn't.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Like, that's not happening, Ojo.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
With the game that you just watched, do you think
Jalen Hurst is ranked appropriate at fourteen?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I listen, we're not talking. He won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
He's super Bowl MVP based on what you've seen through
the first five weeks of the season. Has he played
better than Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, Drake may did Jordan Look,
has he played better than those guys?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Glad you put it that way. I'm glad you put
it that way. If anything, you know, he's appropriately ranked.
He's appropriately ranked based on what they ask of him
to do offensively, what they ask him to do offensively,
where the numbers are not going to be like any
of those guys' that's ahead of him. So what he's
asked to do, he is appropriately ranked right where he is,

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if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
All I know is they're not sick. They're not six
quarterbacks that's currently playing the quarterback position better than shaking bait.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
They're just not shaking bake. They're not.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
And look, we know Patrick Mahomes is the most accomplished.
You know, three Super Bowls, three Super Bowl MVPs. You
know he's been in the Super Bowl five times. He's
been in the AFC Championship every year that he's been
a start, He's never not been in the NFC AFC
Championship game. We get all that. Lamar, the two time
league MVP. Josh Allen is a one time league MVP.

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Matthew Stafford led a team to the Super Bowl. I
get all of that, and kudos those guys accomplished that,
and you can't take that away from them, But I'm sorry,
those guys are not playing the position better than Baker
Mayfield is playing the position.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
It's just that simple.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Then they got nothing to do with what he might
do moving forward, they said the first five weeks, it
says after five weeks, Sports Illustrated dropped their quarterback ranking.
So they're saying, after five weeks of this year twenty
twenty five, nothing that happened twenty twenty four, going back,
nothing that's gonna happen week six. Moving forward, they said,
the first five weeks of this season, Baker Mayfield played better.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Than everybody, and he has.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
And its record is just they only lost one game.
Josh Alla lost one game. Patrick Holmes, I think I
don't know what Lamar Jackson's won and four. Matthew Staffords,
I think they've lost two games. Jerry Goson lost the game.
Dak I think they're two two and one.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, what about what the coach lost one?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Coach lost one yes, So that's why that's why I'm out.
Oh Joe, there's a there's a video going viral tonight
that the staff wants us to react live to his
DBO Samuels asking his rookie running back teammate ja Corey
crosskin Merritt to blind rank seventh round draft picks. Let's

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take a look at this video.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah, plenty of NFL grades that was drafted in the
seventh round. I'm gonna have you blind rank h Shannon
Sharp so, Julian Edelman, uh two, Bo Jackson one, Ryan
Fitzpatrick three, Rock Pretty five, he said, Shannon Sharp four.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
With a pill Man three.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I should have said three.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
I might be minimum minimum three. Now that your list
is over, is any name on here that you would
have changed?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I'll probably keep it like that. Yeah, who you think?

Speaker 4 (06:19):
He don't know? Shannon Sharp? So, he said, Shannon Shark
should be up higher. He shouldn't minimum be three. He
should be about two for real. But you know you're young,
but you don't know too much.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Bill Young, you heard me.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Hold on, are you based it on what could have been?
Or what actually was? Because of all those guys on
the list, only one got a gold jacket.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
You hear what I just said.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Huh, yeah, he probably, I mean, yeah, Bill, Bill.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Don't know, He don't know if he knew. He just
he knows the name Shannon Shark based on this show,
based on what you've seen on TV. But he doesn't
understand the game what comes behind and with that name,
he'd e didn't know because that in no way as
soon as they said your name have been first.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Uh but oh, Joe, even when I came in the league,
when you came in the league at twenty four, at
twenty I mean, hell, I had been in league three
years at twenty four.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
But I'm so bro.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I'm just like, do you not know anything? I mean,
do you like football? Did you not follow the game
of football?

Speaker 3 (07:31):
He's a young oh yo, he twenty four? Nah, twenty four?
I mean you followed the game back then? You don't
do That's what I'm everybody, everybody that all, all all
of them, not like that.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Nah. I was like that man got fits magic in
front of me. I like with damn.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Oh man, Hey, you know, matter of fact, you know
Fitzpatrick got hit too, man, he did didn't he do
the game tonight? Uh?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I didn't see. I didn't see. I don't I don't
watch there, I don't watch half. That's my time to go.
Take the dogs out, let them handle their business, get anything,
you know, take the trash out because the trash is
coming to collect the trash tomorrow. That's my time to
do all that. I don't watch nothing. When I when
I when I turned the tea, when I watched the
t but I turned the TV. I don't know you
to watch the person of night game. They're kicking the

(08:27):
ball off. Yeah, okay, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I mean's just it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I played a flag football game tomorrow where I won't
embarrass us. I will I will put on for nightcap
to make sure we have something to talk about. I
should have scored maybe five, five, six, seven.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Touchdowns out oh for the flag football.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm playing probably five eight, five eight,
five eight, because you know, I don't get the opportunity.
This is my this is my super Bowl. This is
basically my super Bowl. I always talk about to do
things I have never done before, and so I have
to pretend like I'm back in the league and I
might be auditioning for another job next year. You never know,

(09:03):
you never know, another job, gett an opportunity to play
in the league again. Fitzpatrick is the quarterback on another team.
That's why I said that. I'm wondering if he's.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Who is your quarterback?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Uh Diana, Diana, hold on, hold on, gonnavitate right now.
I just had it right here in front of me.
She's a really good flag football player.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh okay, so she plays flag football.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, Dana Floyd Okay, okay, okay, yeah, Destroying, you know, destroying,
Destroying is on my team. And uh Speedy.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, he used to be the guy. He was
a kicker for Cindral Florida. Right, yeah, he got Yeah,
he produced a lot of content.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, I got, I got.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
As matter of fact, you know, you know you watch
him and may of course you watch him. Yeah yeah.
Michael Vinion Page is on another team. Okay, I'm thinking about,
like before I beat James Harrison asked, I'm thinking about
a tune up with Michael Ben and paid. What you think?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I think that'd be good.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah yeah, so lump him first and then yeah yeah
with devote. Yeah, I think that's gonna go.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Not good for you.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
That's that's how I think it's gonna go. That's that's
that's how I think it's going to go. But no, uh,
if if you say seventh round draft picks, if you
want to say what could have been, who's the best athlete,
Well that's both both will win it. But they said
who's the best seventh round athlete? Uh, I mean the

(10:44):
best seventh round NFL player of the group that he listed. Now,
there might be somebody that's in the seventh round, but boy,
I don't know. I like my I like my chances. Yeah,
I like position.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I like him too. If you know your history, history
of the game, and you know you're a young puff,
he's a young puff. He's a young puff and doesn't understand.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
He has debos took about worship.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I have it ranked, well, debo should say, well, if
you don't know where you should have it rank, I.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Can't help you. Yeah, I can't help you.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I don't know. Like I said, I don't know. A
whole lot of self with around us that's in the hall.
Brady's in the sixth Brady's gonna be and I, like
I said, I don't know, But it ain't very many
seventh arounders that's coming to the NFL that's had a better
career than what I had. I'm not saying like I said,
I don't know all of them, Mocho, but there ain't

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been many because the draft used to be, you know,
twenty rounds. So I'm sure there if if we go
back to the forties and fifties and sixties and seventies,
you might find one, but it ain't many. It ain't
daying on that list, Oh Joe. Just days after his
most embarrassing moment of the season, Chief passed Russia, Chris

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Jones addressed why he didn't give maximum effort on the
Jaguars game when he touched down. Jones says, there's a
teaching point for me, the little adversity. I think. I
can't think the play is over. It's a learning lesson.
I thought it was over. I thought we had him down,
so I kind of stopped and was about to celebrate.
Then I realized he wasn't down. Chris Jones is one
of the core leaders of the Chief and to see

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him take a playoff in that situation doesn't seem real
does some up. But for me, I thought they were
gonna let him score. That's what I would have done
on Joe that way. Let them right now. I need
maximum time. But I think it kind of off guard
that they was passing the ball instead of running it.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
So I may maybe CJ.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
And I'm like, I said, this is me thinking for him,
because it's hard for me to believe that.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I saw it in real time. I'm like, damn, CJ.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
But I thought that, And maybe they did think that
they were going to run the ball, and I think
they were a little surprised that the Chiefs passed the ball.
But in a situation like that, you know, you can't
assume he knows that. I mean, he knew that, but
now he really knows that, and you know, obviously, and
they had to talk. Red had to talk to him.

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It's just not a good look. And he knows that.
You're talking about one of the premier def tackles, a
three time Super Bowl champion, a multiple time All Pro player.
He's probably he's more than likely going to be the
All Pro defensive tackle of the twenty twenties. Can't have
that on your resume. Like you said, it's a teachable moment.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I don't think. I don't think we will have that
issue with CJ again.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, I mean, listen you you think about how many
sixty five snaps. I'm not sure how many play on defense,
all of them, all of them aren't one hundred percent effort.
But you can't look like you did on that play. No, No,
there's a microscope on you being who you are. Aaron
Donald's no longer playing, so you are considered widely as

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the best defensive tackle in the game. So there's a
camera always on you from every goddamn angle.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Jones also said that social media accounts weren't deactivated as
an attempt to avoid criticism. Oh your back of your date.
We didn't really have to deal with social media toward
it for seven to Twitter, you know, viral takes. Do
you think athletes in today's game face more criticism than
they did in years past?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
But absolutely absolutely, because not only you have to deal
with the media, you have to deal with the fans
as well. Now, before the fans, the fans had no
way of having access to you. You didn't have to
see it. You just have to hear it either on
radio or on TV. Now you deal with much more,
way more criticism, and they critique you way more when
you don't play well, or things don't happen, or or

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you get hit harder, or your fumbled the ball. You
got to deal with it from everybody and all the
social media. So you have to have thick skin on.
You have to have thick skin, especially to be a
player in this era, especially to be a great player
in this area. It has to go one end out
the other. You have to be able to ignore it
at times. You have to be able to laugh at
yourself and laugh at your mistakes in order to continue

(15:09):
to function, you know, at a high level and whatever
respective craft is you're doing, just not football in general.
You know, whether it be you know you're a rapper
or you you play, you play football, you play tennis.
It's everything is everywhere now you know you you you
become a mean and sometimes you got you got to
take take the jokes for what they are, and you

(15:31):
have to laugh at yourself and pick yourself up, judge
yourself off and just go again.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, there's definite, There's no question about it.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Everybody that has a phone and have a social media
account their former NFL, NBA, MLB player, they're former coach, yeah,
former general manager, their former bat Yeah. So now everybody
has an opinion and you can see their opinions show
up in real time. You're absolutely right out yo with
the media. You're not getting away with anything. There was

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a time that the media would see a player doing
something right and it would never make the news. It
would never make the papers. That ain't happening. Now, no,
it's not happening. If they see you do something, it's
getting reported because everybody wants to be first.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Everybody wants to break the story.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
It's like he's gonna get out anyway, right, so let
me be the first to get it. So there is
no longer that that bond that used to be between
the great players and the reporters.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
That's over.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
That's over, and now everybody have a camera. So you
can't do even if you wanted to get away with something.
For the most part, it's hard to get away with
stuff now, right because just think about it. Jordan going
out the night before and playing and playing and gambling. Boy,
that was gonna be on somebody. Look at Michael Jordan
before he played the Knicks. This Michael Jordan at the

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game at the blackjack table, y'all, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, cameras everywhere too, now everywhere. It's a funny thing
knowing Jordan and how he was, his mannerisms, his persona
in general. Man, he wouldn't give to you know what?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Oh absolutely, Why you don't Why you think you don't
see his ass out now?

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well, he really can't be out.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
He couldn't be out. Jordan hadn't been able. Jordan hadn't
been able to be Mike Jordan since he was at
U n C. Yeah, the moment he hit the league,
it did that. It was over.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
And really when and when he got those red and
black shoes, it was good, not irene.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, it was a rap.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
It was a rap.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, thank god, Oh Joe, he could He's really Michael Jackson.
They've really never been able to enjoy. I mean, you
got to rid the whole movie theater. You want to
go out to a movie, you gotta writen the whole
theater out. You want to take this kids skate, you
gotta wit the whole the whole skating rink out.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
I couldn't live like that.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
It would be hard.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Everything everything is, everything is, everything is on the microscope.
Just imagine how everything how everything looks so big on
the microscope.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
That's how you look in the public eyes.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Now that I don't mind, I don't care. I don't
careing about the microscope because what you see is what
you get. What you see is what you get. I
don't I don't play a character. This is just me
but the whole not being able to go anywhere. I
am too sociable. I love conversing with people. I love
I love seeing people and hugging it and saying.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
You wouldn't be that way if you was that you couldn't.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, you can't be Why you couldn't be like that
with that kind of money to get you?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh you said about the money, the money wise?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Okay, okay, yeah, what person you know that popular that
don't have money?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, I got money. Now
what you're saying not like that? Okay, okay, they but
it chop your head off. I got a question. What
what can Michael Jordan and Lebron do that I can't do?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Go to the mall? They can't do that? Uh uh.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
We just talked about it. Man. What you can't do?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
You can't go you you mean you you, But that's
what you have to be able to do.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
If you're a jay Z. What jay Z gonna go? What?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Be What Beyonce gonna go? What Taylor Swift's gonna go?
You think Taylor Swift could call up her girlfriend, Girl,
Let's go to the mall. Girl, Let's go get us
a drink?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Where are they going? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I'm I'm, I'm,
I'm one of them. I'm I've always been accessible. I
don't care how big I get, which is probably why
God would never bless me with that type of with
that type of wealth, because he knows, damn well, I'm
gonna be at the mall. He know damn where I'm
gonna be at the McDonald's drive through. He knows well,
I'm gonna be at every soccer game I can get to.

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It's not happening, you know, down where. I'm gonna still
be on my grandma porch in Liberty City and at
everybody driving around and see them sitting out there. I'm not.
I can't. I can't.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I mean you might be.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
You might be out there, but you're gonna have security
and then you're gonna be up in the box.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
You ain't gonna be in there. You ain't gonna be
in the stands.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
It ain't the same.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
When you when you when you go to a sporting event.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Special, you're not the same. You look at that through
the prism that you're the same. You're not the same.
You can still have some of the same friends and y'all.
But they come to you, right, they go someplace, they
take the whole island over. You see most of the
time you see them. What do you see them at

(20:42):
on the yacht? When you see jay Z? How many
security you see with him? How many in that detail?
That security detail when you see Mike Damn, that's that's
that's your life now, o yo, that is your life.
It's private jets. It ain't no more spirit, it ain't
no more in the airports.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
It's not that.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Oh so you're telling me if I reached that type
of wealth, I can't fly spirit.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I'm you're not flying that. That sounds good, but you're
not signed that. You're not gonna be worth a billion dollars,
five billion dollars, ten billion, thirty billion dollars to fly
that you're not. That's just like you don't buy to
say you buy chrome hearts you but you see what you.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Spend your money off.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
And I guarantee you when you were younger, you're like,
ain't no way, I spent this much money for a car.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Wait a minute, I didn't buy chrome hearts. That was
a gift from my baby.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
You ay, So everything that you got is a gift
from your baby. The watching, that jewelry, that cuban, that house,
you got all that gifts.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Oh no, no, no, exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
You see, you see how you move accordingly to the resources.
So just imagine I gave you two you worth two
billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I mean, okay, let's let's rease it. Let's let's hypothetic speaking.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Okay, Oh you worth two billion?

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, So tell me what you
think I'm not gonna do.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
And uh, you not walking You're not walking in You're
not walking in the regular airport. You're gonna fly private
because you have the kind of means to fly private.
Uh and uh because you're not gonna run oh Jo,
You're not gonna run the risk. You're a high value target. Yeah,
and I know why you think everybody is your friend.
When you get that kind of money, you build up

(22:26):
a lot of enemies.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Also, damn I got a You think I got enemies
right now?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Hell yeah, absolutely. And the more money you get, the
more the more you get, the more dissension.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Dislike, jealousy, envy, But I'm along with it.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I'm a likable person. You could ask anybody.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
In the world what biggest a more money, more problems.
He did say more money. He didn't say more money,
more friends, more money, more problems.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Right by that.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
But I just don't understand how anybody cannot like me
like I want you.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
That's the only way I'm gonna get my fifty nine
hundred back. That's the only one I'll get my fifty
downe hundred back if you get a b Not.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Really, I get to you now. But I told you
as long as that, oh, you'll never go broke.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well I just see it.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
It's better. It's better shuited in my hands as opposed
to yours.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
So you drawing interest on my money.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
I ain't join interest on your money, but I just
got your best interest.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
You see, However, I can show you that fifty nine man,
I got you, I got you your bills. I need
to pay what you.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Need to pay, though, Hey, I can loan you something
if you need it.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh, you're gonna so you you owe me, but you
willing to loan me money. You gonna loan me my money? Chat?
How that makes it? Chat?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
This man just told me he owed me money, but
he gonna loan me my money.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Listen, I ain't gonna loaer you the money at what
I owe you. I'm I'm a loan you some money
out of.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Oh you will pay me and then loan me extra. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, No,
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
But I think I look, I think, uh, I think everybody.
I think everybody not yet understands the level of scrutiny
that these athletes face today. The older athletes didn't have
to they didn't have to worry about that. They didn't
have to worry about that, they didn't have to worry
about their business being because if somebody want to tell
your business, where were they going? Mm hmm oh oh

(24:37):
he had recording somebody's phone call.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
You're having somebody having cameras, you know, coming in and out.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Hey, I was, I'm seeing a lot of that lady.
I'm seeing a lot of that lady, and not not
not sports lady in general, but I thought that was
a federal offense. I thought that was a felony and
recording someone.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
It all depends on what state you're in, oh Okay, California. Yeah,
they tell you, they tear you up with that. You
can't record now a call and someone's now you have
no no, no, no leg to stand on in a
public setting for privacy. You can't be out the park

(25:17):
and talk about, man, don't feel me. Nah, you can't
be in the airport talking about don't film me. You
do have a level of privacy in your own home,
you do have a level. Like some states, it don't
matter that the person that's taping you recording you know
that that's happening. Other than that, So it all depends

(25:38):
on the state. That varies from state to state. But
this level of criticism and scrutiny that guys Serena and
the women's athletes and the men athletes today, Yeah, it's
not even it's not even close.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Even Mike said it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Mike said he don't know how he would be able
to function with this social media. She door sad that
says he's excited for other rookies who have played and
been playing through them. Let's take a listen to what
should do or had to.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Say any anytime players you know that I came in
with and spent a lot of time with. They they
get moved up and they able to have a vital
role in this offense and this piece I get extremely
excited for and I'm you know, I'm I'm playing through them,
you know what I mean. I'm excited just as them
every time they get out there and run around and everything,
because it's just amazing that, you know, you start somewhere

(26:36):
and then you able to evolve and get to a
different level and go out there and actually execute it.
Just like Dylan, Like whenever he got moved up to
QB one, I'm like, you know, that's lip, bro, you
got you gotta make sure you him do everything the
right way and you know, just continue being him. So
like for me overall, I'm just happy. I'm excited at

(26:56):
everybody live in their dreams, you know, and I'm living
my dream also come every day and be able to work.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
That's dope. Like that, that's dope. That's dope because I
got that same feeling. I got that same feeling. Now
the circumstances a little different. I was the second round pick,
you know, and I went in and TJ was there.
We were both rookies and watching TJ get it shine
because he learned some of the things a little bit
before me. So we got the opportunity to get in
there and do some things a little different.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
It might not have been the game, but just saying practice,
And I was excited. I was living vicariously through him because,
oh I made it to the league. We dine left
Oregon State and put you out that shining boy. You
just beat the start in dB. So I'm hype. So
to see him get the opportunity to be in there
and just just get his feet wet with the ones
was awesome for me. And it took me a little

(27:48):
longer to getting myself in the groove before I got
my opportunity with the Ones. You know, it's especially in practice,
before before I saw the light of day in an
actual game, so I get exactly where he's come from.
So to go to war the being meetings, to see
all the work you put in turn into fruition live
on game days at one o'clock is a wonderful sight

(28:10):
to see. And it's easy to be happy for someone,
especially a competitor that you compete with for a starting spot.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah that but you know he worked out with cam Ward,
so he has a relationship and you know the banter
that they had going back and forth. So I'm sure
he's extremely excited Dylan is there. Although they played the
same position. They're like, hey, bro, you get an opportunity
to go in to do your thing. Yeah, you know
you root, you know you root for you guys that
you know. I want to see you do well. I

(28:37):
don't want to see you fail. I don't. I don't
want anything to happen to Dylan. But if I have
to go in there, if that's how I got my start,
that's how I got my start, right, And I just
love his attitude. I just love the way that like
I get to live my dream. I still get to
come to work. Hey, as long as as long as
they tell me I got a helmet and I get

(28:59):
to put some clear so good my key work. As
long as I can plunch my code in at that
gate and it's slide open, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, I'm good. Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
He wants to start, he wants to play. Who doesn't
want to who the other?

Speaker 3 (29:17):
That's any competitive uncle.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, that's what you do.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
You shouldn't be playing at the highest level in general.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Every absolutely yeah. I mean at first you're like, man,
I made the team. I'm in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
But then you started looking around, You're like, hold on, man,
I ain't never sat the bitch. Yeah yeah, but I
played special teams. Mm hmm, I'm taking all the reps
that the starters don't want to take.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Basically, basically, ah.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
No, hell no, it's got to change. And so but
I I, like I said, I'm excited. I'm happy for him.
Yeah that he understands that. Look, it's not going in
the way I envisioned it. I thought I would get it.
Look started with the drafts for me, Ojo. Once the
draft happened the way it happened for him, it happened
to me the same way. I was like, man, ain't nothing,

(30:12):
ain't no givings. Now what I thought I was gonna
get drafted? How high I thought I was gonna get drafted?
So what makes me think now that I got drafted
and self drifted, I'm gonna go to a team and
I'm gonna be able to play right away.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
He listen, you understand the game you saw the game
they were playing at the draft, so you understand the
game that they're playing now. Nothing has changed, Nope, nothing
can changed. But they all waiting on you to do.
They waiting on you to fold.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
They waited on you to say something crazy, and then
they gonna talk about Sea. That's why.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's why, because they used to know where you know,
he said, you know, he didn't want to go to
the Baltimore and said and blah blah blah. See that's
why who you should look? Everybody look for me? You
Ojo we happy. I don't care where I went. I
just wanted to get somebody draft me, give me an
opportunity to play. I don't care if they had twelve
tight ends. I don't care if they have fifteen receivers.

(31:05):
Guess what they got sixteen out?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Absolutely, And that's the way. But that's him, you know.
I had for the longest time on y'all. I was like, man,
I wouldn't have did it like that. Somebody wouldn't have
did it how I did it. So all I know
is like I when I speak, I'm talking about like

(31:31):
when it comes to winning and trying to keep the
locker room together, there's certain things that were family and
were family.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
They're lock man. I ain't know he like his brother.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I ain't know. They ain't talk. Yeah, because that's family.
They keep it in the house. I look at us
the football team as a family. Whatever dissension that we
have on yr what whatever we have going on, let's
keep it in time. We can get we can work
it out absolutely, And that way we can control the narrative.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
We can control the story to get out of you.
They're gonna write what they want to write.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Now, I got the pie, oh Joe, They tell me,
until the lions have thumbs, every every hunter will be glorified.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
He writing the story.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Until until the lions have thumbs, every hund But that's
a bar. Hey, that's a hey, ain't got pads, got
damn hotel here and goddamn London black Until the lion
have thumbs and wait, yes they do, hold on. Well,

(32:40):
stop stop playing. But that's a good one now I
remember it too. Until the lion has thumbs, the hunter
will always write the story.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
The hunter will always be glorified.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Glorified, Okay, okay, because he's actually writing. Boy, I'm gonna
use that in my next argument. Probably, Hey listen, they
probably have had nothing to do with the situation. But
when I use it, if I can just get it
a think for a minute to stop, that means I.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Want Oh Joe.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
The Brian Browns are currently played paying eqb's. They're playing
paying Deshaun Watson thirty five point nine million, They're paying
James Winston two point two million, Dylan Gabriel one point
one million, Joe Flacco nine hundred and ninety nine thousand,
Shador Sanders nine hundred and fifty five thousand, Bailey Zappi

(33:38):
three hundred and fifteen thousand, Dorian Thompson Robinson one hundred
and seventy one thousand.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Can't it picket? Uh? They paid him by the front
pocket eight thousand.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Hey listens, that's like that's light. That's light. The only
the only thing on there that that kind of kind
of kind of would hurt well is Dashawn not being
able to be out there and play and contribute, making
that that that that kind of money. I think things
didn't go well. I'm curious to see what's gonna happen

(34:14):
next year when he is healthy and he's able to
come back and contribute. What happened to that that starting job.
I'm sure because his salary is so high and he
commands so much.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Of that.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Damn, what do you call it.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Salary? Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
I think he may be the start of next year,
you know, especially if he's healthy. I just think.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Thirty five thirty six million, thirty five point nine. Hey boy,
oh Joe, we got some breaking news. Lordyla University of
Chicago has a now that Suster Jean de lord Schmidt
has passed away at the age of one hundred and six.

(35:01):
March madness never gonna be the same, you know every
year when their team make it. You know she was
there in a wheelchairs. Yeh and boy, that's a life. Yeah, yeah,
that is a life. Hey one hundred and six, Well
that's a blessing.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
But yeah, do you know how much you've seen over
a lifetime. To live a hundred years a hundred, man,
would you want to live that long?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Only if I'm healthy and I'm in my right mind.
I don't want to be a burden to no one.
If I become a burden, no, right, right, right, No,
I don't want to be a burden.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know what I would love, I would love because
of what I know now, and it's amazing that I
am at society and in the era of technology and
as advanced as it is. I would love to see
what it's like fifty sixty years from now. I would
love to be here. Maybe I'm also with my health
and being in a I stay in mind, I would

(36:01):
love that.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
If if I'm a burden, my kids, promise me, don't
put me in a home. Don't you put me in home?
And I know, I know my kids. My kids might
be watching right now, y'all put your daddy in the home.
I'll tell you what. I'm gonna come down. I'm gonna
come down and I'm gonna haunt you.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, I'm haunt Yeah. I don't want to be you know,
I don't want to be hooked up to no machines.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Let me go. Hey your dad, Hey, your dad had
a great life.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Your brother, you know, they they I've already given everybody
instruction so they know what to do. But no, I
don't want to be I don't want to be a burden.
I never want to be a burden. And uh, I
want my kids to to live their life and not
have to worry about Dad and Kad lived their life.
Your dad lived his life. Y'all know what you know.

(36:54):
You've been instructed, you know what to do. But I
want to live as long as I can. I can
do for myself, oyo, in my right mind. And I'm
not a burden.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I like it. I don't. I don't. I don't do
good as a burden. I don't.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I'm irritable. I'm just I'm just I'm just not just damn.
I'm not a guy that does well. Hurt when I'm
injured and stuff like that, I don't do well. That's why,
man o yo. I had surgery on my hip. Yeah,
I got it that morning. I got home at one
point thirty two o'clock. I was in the driveway walking

(37:31):
with my walker.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I just, hey, hold on doing everything you're not supposed
to be doing.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Basically, Hey, I got a I gotta ay. I'm I'm
gonna get I'm I'm gonna speed up this recovery time.
That's what I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna be depending.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Don't.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I hate depending on people, O yo, especially you know,
like I understand, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
I don't want to be a burden. I don't like
well can you do this for me? I hate that.
I hate it, so I don't know. But no, I don't.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
So hmm, oh that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
As long as I got my right mind on yo,
everybody that my grandmothers, all my grand my grandparents, although
he had all their right minds. My grandma was eighty
eighty nine years of age and she had a right mind.
And one of my great grandma was ninety two. She
had a right mind. So as long as I'm in
my right mind and I'm not a bird, no, Joe
and I can I can do for myself. Yes, Sir,

(38:30):
Shaye wanna want to hold on, but the moment that happens.
Jamar Chase gives the first comments about the Bengals acquiring
veteran quarterback Joe Flacco. When asked how he learned about
the trade, chase that t Higgins initially told him and
Zach Taylor confirmed the news, Jamar says he appreciates the

(38:52):
organization trying to make this work amid a trying season.
Oh Joe, with Flacco finally getting a chance to work
with elite weapons, what do you see for the Bangos?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well? But I see for the Bengals with now Flacco
getting elite weapons, weapons he's never had before. And I
look at some of the numbers. I look at some
of the numbers today based on some of the games
that Flacco has played throughout his career, and he's never
thrown anything like this. I say, I say, Flaco might
throw for four hundreds.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Who they play Packers? How you gonna throw for a whole?
And he gonna have more time?

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Again, you heard what I see Because the strength of
the Packers defense is up front. I do understand that.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
The weakness of your office is up up front.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
But that back end is vulnering. It's vulnerable. Now, Yeah,
I'm just all honestly, honestly, I don't know what to expect.
I don't know what to expect it because I saw
the closer person, obviously, with Jake Browning and him running
for his life where the officer line he had to
deal with, playing against Aiden Hudderson and those young fellas, hoping, hoping,

(40:00):
pride in itself, playing for the name on the back
of that jersey. There's a there's a there's a better showing.
There's a better showing from from us up front, and
and and and having some type of pride about yourself
and your game, because that's ship you're putting out is
on film and people get to see that. You know,
you do what you can to keep God Damn Joe

(40:21):
Flacco upright, because you know what you can, know what,
you know what he can do when he's able to
have time and throw the ball, and if we're gonna
have a chance offensively to even compete, forget talking about
winning compete week to week, we got to be able
to block.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I'm playing twenty two man for two seconds. That's why
I'm playing twenty two man because I ain't worried about
Flaco going nowhere.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah yeah, not that's true.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Everyone has been talking about Michael Irvin went off on
Facts over Feelings podcasts for saying Dion Sanders wouldn't be
able to cover these current NFL receivers. Oh cho, let's
take a listen to what they had to say receive
us from back then?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Why not? These guys that he played against want their fans.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
Bro, they were stronger, but they want their fast these
guys now. I love to see him. I would have
loved to see him playing against Chad and his prime.
I would have loved to see him nah, he's Jam
Jefferson right now in today? You know all these different guys.
I would love to see him cover Tyree if Prime
is who we think he is.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Are you shit team? Mean?

Speaker 7 (41:27):
We are the two most accomplished receivers in the history
of this game. When you're talking about the most important things,
championships and your stupid ass talking about running fast like
people weren't running fast back.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Then are you shit?

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Team?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Mean?

Speaker 7 (41:45):
What the hell are you talking about? I don't even
know your name, and I certainly don't know your game.
I don't see you every year with a gold jacket
in that Hall of Fame room. So who the you
to talk about?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
What?

Speaker 7 (41:58):
Oh beyond Sanders couldn't cover these guys today?

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Do you really know what you're talking about?

Speaker 7 (42:07):
You think they were not fast guys in the league
when I played? You think you think Tayreek Hill and
out run an Olympid like Bullet Bob Hayes who played before.
I mean, you wanta get to run around and play
seven on seven touch football.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
We had pain in our game, and y'all don't even know.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Shit about pain.

Speaker 7 (42:28):
Football is not about running fast, It's not about speed.
It's about getting the job done. It's about getting the
job done.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Look he herd funny boy, Yeah, looking her funny, Gonna
tell it like it is. And obviously back then, I
think back then players were fast.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Well, Ron Brown got a gold medal, Sam Graddy got
a gold medal, James Jett got a gold medal. I
would to know the current player that's currently played right now.
They got a gold medal, and all those guys. Sam
Graddy won the silver medal in the Olympics in eighty four.
Time played against him. Ron Brown was on the relay team.
James Jet ran alternate leg in the qualifying of the

(43:13):
nineteen Barcelona.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Team in the Olympics. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
So I want to know which one of you guys
think faster than Sam Graddy, Faster than Ron Brown, faster
than James.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Jet I am the boy would move on.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Huh he played, y'all say, Randy Moss was fast. He
played against Okay.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
And people.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I don't think we'll see I've see I saw it
up close in personal. Well, that shit was different.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Boy, yell the league with those guys I'm talking about
with the league, Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
You have to realize there are certain players.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Time is a player that could have played it there
in the era because he was so extraordinary.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yeah, he was exhorted, but he won't covering me. But
go ahead, I hate it.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
You have to understand.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
See, people just look at time and they say your
speed time ota looking sound. He studied a lot of tapes.
He gonna make you play to your weakness. He gonna
play to his strengths and force you to your weakness. Yeah, yeah,
y'all need to go see the play when rocket is Mail.
He picked off a deep post for rocket ismail. They
threw it off his head, the one off his head

(44:25):
and took it and put the ball up in the era.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, coming back the other way with it.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Like I said, I think the thing is, man, these
guys they don't realize like Darrel agreed, y'all do realize
like Darrel Green can look like they didn't keep track
of forty times like they do now, O Joe.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
That was way back then. The combine really didn't start
kicking off until the late eighties. Right went to combat
because back then they had regional combines. Ojo.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
If you were in the South, you went to a
combine in the South, and you're in the West, you
went to the combine the west and you northwest.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
That's how it was. It wasn't it wasn't centralized like
it is now.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
But Daryl Green, you know, Daryl Green could want Rod Ran,
and Rod Ran try to qualify for the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
He ran against Greg Foster.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Look, I look, and that's not a knock on these
guys right here, because these guys are phenomenal, and they're phenomenal,
But you can't discount just because what you see and
you didn't see guys back then and just try to
summarily discount them. So I guess based on that, Reggie
White couldn't play back, couldn't play now, LT couldn't play now,

(45:34):
Derrick Thomas couldn't play now, Bruce Smith couldn't play now.
So I'm trying to figure out who could play in
that era. So I guess you know John l Way
and Dan Marino, those guys couldn't play in this era.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, it's all those defensive ends you just named right now.
Lauren Taylor probably won last two weeks in his league
when label on last two weeks for one, if he
ain't gonna have no check, you're gonna be suspended. One
of the other.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yeah, yeah, betty, guys, Betty all the I promise you
there was good football played. Granted, the athletes have gotten better,
technology has gotten better, supplementation has gotten better, diet has
gotten better, O Joe, training has gotten better. Okay, but

(46:18):
you gotta think about what these guys were working with.
So that means Deon Sanders was gonna have the training,
the nutrition, the supplementation that.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
These guys have. He had none of that doing what
he did.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Those guys that you see that I mentioned, Sam Graddy
and Ron Brown and James Jet they're gonna have the
same nutrition, They're gonna have the same coaching.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
They're gonna have the same that these guys have.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Now, Yeah, be guys, that's a great hypothetical too.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
That's why why you think, guys, why you think guys
have gotten faster. Of course things change, But if you
give those guys the same nutrition, the same training, the
same Hey, they got a red light therapy and saunas,
oh Joe, they got dip tanks, they got all that stuff,
they got all the all that acupuncture and all those

(47:11):
other things.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
How good do you think they could have been? Much better?
Much better?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Damn Rams Lying back at Jared Verse said he'd beatfing
furious if Lamar Jackson isn't able to play. Sunday versaid
Lamar is on his sack bucket list, along with Patrick
Mahons and Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Oh Yo.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Which opponent did you both circle the calendar look forward
to facing during your time only one? Hey, I wanted
to say I got a block on it. Either he
beat me for a sack, or I blocked him and
he didn't make the tackle ld or lt.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Lt was hurt when we played him.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
I think matter of fact, you remember remember chat chat,
those of you who were in the chat, You remember
if I made that checklist in two thousand and five
before the season started.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Remember that, Yeah, I remember you making the checklist. I
don't remember who was on it.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah, I mean Champ and Fred Smooth and Garybody. I
remember doing that. So just that two thousand and five year,
I made a checklist. I put it in my locker
before the season started, and I eliminated it obviously, but
the boxes, Yes, the check note. And you understand how

(48:26):
arrogant and cocky this was of me. But I was
just confident. I was confident in the work that I
put in to be able to pull this off. So
how you let somebody put your name in a locker
and tell them you're not gonna stop me. If you
stopped me one time, that's all I had to do.
Just stop me one time in the game, you get
a yes by your name. And I went through that

(48:48):
two I went through that two thousand and five season
understanding there's nobody's gonna stop nothing I do because of
the work I put in, not only in the film
room and studying preparing for that season, being that man,
I went out there and acted a food at two
thousand and five season and we're checking everybody off. I
think I might have lost. I can't remember. I can't

(49:10):
remember I lost too, But Danny, that that was that
was some very arrogant, arrogant ship I did.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
But hey, that's it's it's it's hard to overlap erarors.
Things were different back then than there is now. The
fact just enjoy. All you gotta do is just enjoy
what you're seeing. It's not because we don't know. It's
easy to say we don't know. Oh Joe, it's time
we're gonna get out of here on this. When it's
time for our final segment evening, it's time for Q

(49:39):
and as our final segment.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Even evening. It's six, it's six in the morning.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Oh my bad, it's my finals. It's my final, saving
for this evening, your final segment in the morning. Yeah,
Howard Bell saying, I think it's fair to say Jackson dark,
I'll play Jalen tonight.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
The Eagles offense just struggling, Sara Joannie might need to
take over the play. Yeah, out played it, you know,
he made more plays with his legs, made a big
time throw, But it happens.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Question is Eagles do they bounce back? We'll see in
ten days, oh, Joe, Yeah, damn ten. Yeah, because they
play Thursday, so they don't play till next Sunday.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Okay, okay, okay, oh yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Cool sharky Eagle fans clown Cowboys for beating an er
and four team, and Eagles immediately follow that by losing
to a one in fourteen.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
But hey, it's one loss. He laughing.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yo Dutch to me, Steph shouldn't be in the top
ten before Kobe. So my question to you is, do
you think Kobe belongs in the top ten. If so,
who you taking out rap buff Past Nation so hard

(51:01):
as some great players Ron Jordan care Kareem Magic, they
got room service, Yeah, Duncan.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Will Bird. Oh, Joe, you don't play basketball. I used to.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
I know, I scored fifty two in high school.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
It's close, man, it's really close. I don't understand because
here's the thing. This is what this is what I
don't get Half the time when you say championships, they say,
championship is a team goal. So we disregard, can't championsh
unless it's for a player that we like, and then
we count championships.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
They always moved the goal depending on what they do.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
They tell me, oh, that's a team goal. Oh so
so what are we going? So what are we gonna use?
So tell me the metric that we're using.

Speaker 7 (52:18):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Okay? Obviously?

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I think you are the factored everything you factor in championships,
all NBA selections, all Star selections, m VPS finals, MVPs.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Uh you know things like that. I think there should
be five metrics.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
You just can't say, well, he won the most championships,
would then out be Bill Russell?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Okay, Points where you're ranking points, Where are you ranking rebounds?
Where are you ranking assists? I think there are so
many variables. But for me, I think there are like
seven guys. I think Lebron, Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Wilt Bird.

(53:00):
For me, I think they're like they gotta be in
the top ten. Now that last three last three for
me probably come down to like four players Elijah, Wan, Shaq, Kobe,
It's death, damn, damn.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
And if you ask like avid basketball enthusiasts their top ten,
I think your first five, six or seven will probably
be the same as everybody else.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
It's maybe just a different order. But when it's all
saying done what we're gonna do with yo kitchen, I'm
not done yet. Y'all could get another m v P.
I mean another Finals MVP, another Regulouslyason, I mean a
conversation now, yes, for sure, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Greatest big man of all time or.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
No, nah, I mean for me, see, I don't think
Kareem get the credit he deserved. It's hard because everybody
always looks overlooks Kareem. Yeah, I mean nineteen All Stars,
six MBPS six six three with the Bucks, three with

(54:28):
the Lakers, six championships, nineteen All Star selections. I think
he was like a thirteen or fourteen times All Defensive selection.
He once held the record most points for a career. See,
people don't realize how good Kareem was when he was
at Milwaukee and when he first got to LA because

(54:50):
he kind of took a back seat when Magic came.
But go back and look up Kareem stats back when
he got with the Bucks, and you tell me what
you think. Thirty three and sixteen for a season a season, Yeah,
he averaged thirty three and sixteen for a season.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
People. People, just.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Let me tell you why people discount biggs because they
say they need a guard to get them the ball.
If you go back and look, most people tops right
are are forwards and guards right because willn'ted nobody getting
them the ball? Big Like, well if magic didn't get
kare a magical oscar didn't get Kareem the ball. Well

(55:30):
if this guy didn't get shocked the ball or if
this guy didn't get this guy the ball be at
will or mister Russell.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Right, so that it normally goes.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
To Okay, I understand, I get I got you, I
got you, I got you.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
O Joe Orio Hulum said, free a j. Brown Man
shaking my head, Jason zeld Off and Dark we trust.
Dark is the man Shuder who I love you, But
we coming for your Broncos. The Bengals still will suck.
Oh we played, I guess we we played the Giants

(56:04):
played the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Eagle Yeah yeah, yeah we do because we got the
h We just played the Eagles. They got the Cowboys,
got got the Cowboys and the Giants.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah. Yeah, y'all.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Putting out boy the Jets Sunday. Look, I'm just saying
he brought that up.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
U Chad, Jody Okay, Jody ak baby boy sinko Ah.
The Eagles sa Quan suffering from mad cover curse or
Super Bowl hangover.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I just don't think. I don't think getting ten carries,
I mean twelve carries gonna help anything.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
O Yoe No, yeah, man, curse ain't got nothing to
do with that at all.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Nothing. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
We don't believe in superstition.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Uh uh player four player four player is hurt equals Dark, crish,
Eagles cry.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Cowboy fans. Anthony Spiels said, Carl getting.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
The kid he was in his feelings cutting that live
Early Edie's our gotto. Let's go big Blue. Stop playing
with my giants. Man up, watch out your Broncos next.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Hey, I god, damn Jackson Darden scatterbo is exciting. I'm
about legit exciting for the beat, Damn Early.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Uh Matt Tube University said Russell. Wilson got booed as
soon as he put that helmet on. Real, I'm not surprised. Yeah,
I'm not surprised. Don't yo, damn ojo.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
You know how it is? Jackson Dartist captured. Yes, guyants
they see hope in him.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yeah, yeah, uh Real, Carter said, I don't know which
loss is worth, the Phillies losing the bottom of the
level on the throwing era to end their season, or
the Eagles losing.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
To a division rival in a blowout.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
The Phillies losing on that but the way, wait, because
your seasons over, Eagles. Gotta Eagles get another chance to
redeem themselves when when the Giants come to to what
they call it, I.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Forget the name of the stadium, but the Phillies is over.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Ray Cleeve said, Eagles off as the coordinator shouldn't even
be allowed to ride the bus home. I guess y'all
out on Patula hunh. Patrick rin Don said, guys, I'm
not sure why Freedom Pigeons always have a Super Bowl
hangover Freedom they called the Eagle Pigeons. Oh Joe, but
Catt in dark definitely going to save Brian day Ball's job.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Hey, he said he see a Jackson darted saving saving
the balls ass because he was on the hot seat.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Boy for sure. Uh eagle fan the second half implosion.
I was dreading.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
John n three thirty four seventeen. I know you af
the line giants put belt t you know what tonight?

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
See these scales. Say what's up, mister sharp? What is
your favorite food to eat when training? I look forward
to meeting you guys on the tour next year. I'm
a huge fan love I'm chicken. If you tell me
I can only eat one one protein for the rest
of my life, is gonna be chicken.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
I could deal with that. Chicken or fish. I can
do that.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
No, I don't like no fish. I mean I like fish,
o't yo. But fish ain't a food that you can
warm up. Fish tank your whole house up, have your
whole house people coming.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Like, man, what is that is that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Especially believe it out.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Fish, New Jersey said, NFL lol, lose to the Saints
four these later beat the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
That's the NFL.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Ye camera Mao as an Eagle fan, is looking more
like twenty twenty three season just falling apart. Earlier in
the Sea Independent Aquaman, Packers, Ravens Bills, Eagles are frauds.
In twenty twenty five, only the Lions are legit. Plus
refs should penalize Eagles for offensive procedure and off sides.

(01:00:14):
Church Brush, Yeah yeah, Wolf had facts, Cam and Jacks
won me ten k tonight. I got you, I got
old shows debt. Yeah, break me up. Let me go
and get that bro let me get that fifty nine
both something on the throw, something on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
The proof of it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Matter of fact. Hey, well I'm not here in London today.
Today's my off days, so Friday, have all day free, right, Yeah,
I'm gonna you know, not only am I gonna win
your money back, I'm gonna double it and I'm gonna
see you. I'm gonna see you by six, five, ten, sixteen,
five teen, I seen you twelve thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
The look of my man, Jared Lason said, la smoking
Phillies New York Giants roasting pigeons, tik technoledge, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Is Friday died and laid to the side.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Uh fears New Jersey megde Stallion, scattered at It, at It,
at it scat pack that got all these crazy names.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I can I can just imagine Jackson Dark he keep
this going.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
You already know what it's gonna be like. Oyo oh yeah,
oh yeah. Dag Nante Cobbins. Adversity is a stone used
to sharpen your blade. We're gonna be all right, and
my crying Ocho voice Fly Eagles Fly, Dave Rix Jr. Said, Uncle,
Ojo love what you do kept me laughing through many
nights of the trucker. Can you give my wife, the

(01:01:36):
Asia and my daughters a shoutout and say I love them.
My life is great because they're in it, absolutely, Dave
Rix Jr.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Di Asia, your husband, Dave Junior.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
He wanted to tell you that he loves you, He
loves his wife and his daughters, and his life is
better because you're in it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
You completely that. I like that, So happy marriage continue
have been Saucy d said.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
When shir Carrie gets back the top for him do
you think her and Melissa can have the same dominance
Shelley Ann and Elaine had.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Woh man, they dominated.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Shelley Anne won an eight and twelve, Elaine won in
sixteen to twenty one. That's a long time. They might
be out of it. They gotta be there. Ooh, hold on,
so twenty four, so excuse me. Twenty eight, eight, twelve, sixteen,
twenty that's a long time, bro, that's a long long time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Shel Anne.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I mean, Shelley Anne is just the greatest woman sprinder ever.
So the likelihood that we see in somebody follow that
up so soon.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Is not likely. I'm not saying it can't happen, but man,
track you feel is so oh yo. You know, one
minute you hear in the next minute you're like, damn
you know who.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I knew what I was excited about? Remember, Marion Jones,
your camera done went out where you went? Okay, hey chat,
it's just me and you chat. Uncle's having technical difficulties.

(01:03:33):
That's okay. But if you can see behind me, it's
starting to be daylight. I'm out here in London. Make
sure y'all tune in Saturday. Saturday, go to my story
on instagrams. Go to my story, make sure y'all tune
in and watch. I should probably score maybe five, six, seven,
maybe eight touchdowns a nice little flag football game, have
a little fun. Then I'm going to the Bronco Jets
game on Sunday. I'm gonna I'm gonna sit with my pops,

(01:03:57):
my pops, I'm gonna sity with good Day, you know,
exchange some pleasantries. Being that we have such a good relationship.
I'm probably going to ask him about let me get
all my fine money back. Being there, everyone can celebrate now,
and I think I started that. So since I started that,

(01:04:17):
I think I should be able to to recoup some
of my fine money. Outside of that, that's that's pretty
much it. Chat. What time is it in the States?

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Unk you back? But we're still not back yet, But yeah, Chat,
that's it. Just makes y'all tune in Saturday, and that's
pretty much it. Okay, and look at my instagrams and
they'll tell you what time you get to see me
play football again, and it can kind of remind you
on how good I actually was because I'm going to
be on full speed like this. For me, it's like

(01:04:52):
Super Bowl, So I'm auditioning for a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Next year.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Yeah, what's good?

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Oh, Jordan ain't charge the computer up?

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Oh okay, okay, that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Damn it's only ten o'clock out there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Unk uh yeah damn? Yeah? Oh here we go. Oh true?
And then from seventy three, I don't think it's the
players offensively? Is there?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Do see Kevin Petula he hadn't been able to figure
out what to do with the talent he has. That
might be the case. Well, then I guess Sirianna needs
to take over the play calling. David Moses Giants all day,
New Jersey Baby, super Bowl, Here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
We come, Damn super Bowl. Uh, Saucy. One more question.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Oh, I think Sidney can one hundred percent do it,
But I think it's going to be double twenty twenty
eight would be a lot of running.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Six four hundred meters more than that. I mean, yeah,
you're right, qualifying simmon, finals, finals.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
I think it's four round it? Is it three rounds
or four rounds? It might be right, you might be Yeah,
that's a lot, but it all depends on how much
space she has between and if I'm her, I want
to get the most difficult one out the way first.
I want to get the four hundred meters out the way.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Dang oh, how much how much energy you exert?

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Well, you you try to you try to pace it, ohoe,
you try to burn as little energy as possible. But
Paulino NASA, that's gonna. I mean, they're gonna be there. Yeah,
they're gonna. They're gonna be there. So I think next
year she does the Ultimate Championships. I think if I'm her,
I try to lower that that uh, the four hundred,

(01:06:47):
the hurdles, I try to dip under fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I think she's in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
She she she's in, She's in condition, she has the
she can do it right, because you got to think
about it, O shoe. She hadn't run forty eight. She's
a forty seven. Ain't no question in my mind. She
can go on the forty nine. She can go on
the fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Put it out there like that Flow JR. Record. Damn,
that's what I do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Nobody gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
No time soon. I mean ten forty nine, I mean
until what do you call him?

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
I mean Elaine Thompson Herold was the first woman to
go sub ten six other than so she went ten
fifty four.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Yeah, that's still five tenths, six tenths.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Do you know how fast that is?

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I do know how fast that is for a woman. Absolutely,
I know how fast that is. Platinum made these. Do
you think aj trade talks happens next season? If the
Eagles keep collapsing this season and if it make it
don't go far in the playoffs? Yeah, I can see. Look,
would I be surprised even if they went far in

(01:07:59):
the playoff they don't do something out there? Probably? Probably
James Tilling has Dodgers feelings couldn't have ended in a
more anti climatic fashion. Was scared when Page's hit right
into the picture. Pressure man, pressure, He could have easily
Evergreg Shatton, Ojo, Liley, and Emma made it to school

(01:08:24):
with no issues. In fact, she's seen pumped this am.
I was shout out glad, best you go colowboys, Well
we're glad every way at the school. Uh Doctor Frankie
m Bellaman, Okay, guys, take your pick. Jodasy Jagged Edge.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
I'm going Jodysy, that's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I'm going Joashon too bron Like jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
EDGs I do too, can't see it, Joe Jamieson age.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Uh, if Ojoe gets into the hall, you get your
you get the jacket until he gives you the fifty
down hundred plus let's call it fifteen percent entrant on top.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Well, hey, I can speed that one up. They not
letting my black ass in no goddamn hall. That's why
I got my own jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
You can't find it though, Go ahead and put your
hands little on your car. You playing with your money heels?

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Hey, hey, that's what you Hey, that's what you don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Uncle.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
You know my hands registered, right, you heard me?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
So if I got I got some registered too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah, I'm just saying my hands are registered these lethal
weapons because in order for me to box, you know,
I had to get my hands registered. So once I
once I put these hands on you, it's alive. But
I get locked up. But we can't have no nightcap.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Yeah, I got some register too, old old.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Will you be at the Bronco Alumni week seven versus
the Giants? She'll be it good with Drake Greenlaw possibly
back from ir.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Shit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
That's that's next week, can't it probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Bengal should have got Kirk Cousins. Stop being cheap man
this man. They want this man. They want the Bengal
to have a fifty five million dollar quarterback on our
at another fifty forty million dollar quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
They gotta deal with Mike.

Speaker 7 (01:10:17):
They do that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
We got the most, We got the best quarterback available
at the right price.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Certain underscore ks, my guys, uncle, I know it's football season,
but if I have I have to know your thoughts
on Fred van Fleet getting in your kN KD and
sing Goon carry the rockets.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Or do they need to rely on point guard? They
need to point guard. They got Thompson. I like them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Look, somebody got to get them the ball. Somebody got
to distribute the basketball. Yeah, we know what Shingoon is,
We know what KD is and IM and Thompson. It's amazing.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I don't know who. I don't even know who the
backup for guard is for for them, fletch.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
These days, if you do something, the media will have
it in the paper before to something that is absolutely
right or and plus o Joe, you gotta realize that
TMZ people pay for stuff now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Uh ring Oh McDonald's worker Kaylee Ringo is the newest
McDonald's worker.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Eli. Can you imagine if o Yo played with Julio
in Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Uh, kyber Sith, did the Broncos provide the league blueprint
for them? Philadelphia Smiegels. No, they'll fix it. They'll get
it fixed. But uh, they got to throw the ball
better than what they throw. It's a throwing league. It's
a throwing league because at the end of the day,

(01:11:58):
you're gonna have to throw to make plays. Thank you
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got excuse me? The Eagles got dominated by the Giants
thirty four to seventeen. Scatter boat eighteen carries ninety eight yards,
three touchdown. Jackson Dark was superb. He only threw for

(01:13:20):
one touchdown, but he didn't have any turnover. No, he
ran four touchdown. Excuse me, they score four combined touchdowns.
But he was sensational tonight for the Giants did a
number on them. They lose to the Saints, but at
home put some on the Eagles. So oh Joe, have
fun While you're over there Washington, Broncos beat up on

(01:13:41):
them Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
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