May 29, 2025 • 43 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson debate over every NFL team's greatest player of all time. Don't miss their takes on the hottest topics around the league!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh, y'all, each NFL teams go. Can you see that
right there? They got each NFL team's going. I think
Fan Duel did that.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
In fact, I saw this earlier on Do you got
any objections?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Hold on, ash Ash, if you can hear me, can
you text that to my phone?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
My eyes are My eyes are bad? I like this.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Somebody sent it to me earlier too.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Uh, but I was I was at the concert, so
I wasn't able to.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Ask Herbie.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, she said it to you.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Hold on, it's coming.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I like.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I like stuff like this too. I mean, you have
any objections based on what you see so far?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Okay, there we go. I got it now.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Larry Ferzdrell absolutely, Matt Ryan. I would have loved to
put Julio Jones there instead, but be at Ryan. I
totally understand the quarterback Ravens ray Lewis.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Of course, that's all well, I don't know what it's
all saying done if it might not be lamar lamar.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Okay, yeah, when it's all said and done, yeah, probably,
But you got to understand ray Reggae.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You two super bowls, gave two Super Bowls, two time
Defensive Player of the Year he's he's he's universally regarded
as the best middle linebacker they ever played the game.
I was very fortunate to play with him for two
years and know what he put in it to become
what he became. So I ain't got no problem with that. Yeah, Lucy,
I played against Bruce. Yeah about Buffalo, yep, Jim.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I mean I think for the for the Bills, it
could it could have gone two ways. It could have
win Jim Kelly or it could have Bruce Smith. You
can't go wrong either way. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I think Bruce? Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And Plus Bruce was a two time Defensive Player of
the Year, All Decade player in the eighties, in the nineties.
Uh huh. Now we'll see what Josh Allen does. Can
he take him to the Super Bowl and unseated?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Cam?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And I think Cam also with Cam, you can slash
Luke Keigley even though it was short, it was short lives.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
What about Julius Pepper b Smith. It's tougher than you
think for Carolina, is it? But Cam quarterback MVP took
it to the Super Bowl. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Walter Payton Okay, hands down, Anthony Munos.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Absolutely, Jim Brown.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Ain't nobody unseating him. Okay, yeah, I can live with that. John, Okay,
uh huh for Detroit Yeah okay, okay too Temper. You
do realize was a two time league MVP, right, John, Okay,
(02:51):
I live with that.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That's a good one. Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Absolutely, Aaron Rodgers. Wow, well, Brett, I'm not yeah, I'm
not surprised. I mean he got four MVPs, Brett got three,
he was a Super Bowl MVP winner, more touchdowns, fewer interceptions.
I'm cool. I'm perfectly cool with that. And they have
some great they have some great players. You got Bart Starr,
James Lofton in the Pro Bowl. My brother's going to
(03:14):
the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You have a.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Ray Nitsky, Walter, Willie Davis, herb Adeley. Oh, they got
a wald Horning Taylor right, Yes, yes, Aaron Rodgers, JJ Watt, Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Even though with Johnny U Ninus and they got some player.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yes, hold on, hold on now you skipped now that
Houston's one. Now I was slashed Andre Johnson as well.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well. First of all, that's with JJ. Three defensive players
of the Year.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh, Joe, I mean you, I mean you could probably
make a case he's the top five defensive player of
all time with what he's been, what he was able
to do those years. He's the only guy to have
multiple twenty SAX seasons. Okay, all right, fell with that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Peyton Fanning.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Even though you got Johnny u Ninas, you got some
great players, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, you got some great
players that uh uh that played there. But for me,
as Kayton, I was a little surprised by this. Fred Taylor,
are you surprise? Yeah. I thought they'd probably go with
Tony Baselli.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Oh, one of the greatest, probably one of the greatest
left tackles of all time.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yep, yeah, But Fred had longevity. Vaselli got hurt, his
shoulders gave out on him.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Haven't matter.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I FA had a great conversation with him. He was
at the last Super Bowl. I was on a panel
with it.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
So Patrick Mahomes, yeah, goes without saying, hey, Marcus Fallen
the greatest crast Marcus.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, but you know, look, they have some great players.
They got a lot of Hall of famers exactly. That's
why That's why I just said, But Marcus Man, look,
you gotta understand he and al had a really falling out.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
He was blocking for Bo Jackson.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
L T.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Absolutely I was fortunate enough to play in the tailor
in my career against LT.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
And they have some great players.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Kellen Winslow, Damn Fouts, Philip Rivers, Gates, Fred Dean was
there for a minute, Big Hans Johnson.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Who else they had? Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
They had uh, Charlie Brenney Harrison, Yeah, that Junior sail
Yeah yeah, that h uh Charlie, Jonan West, they had
John Jefferson, the moon Man, the moon forget what's what's
West's last name?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
But they have some good receivers there, Kellen Winslow Senior,
the Rams, Aaron Donald, no surprise there, without question, the Dolphins, Dano,
no surprise there, absolutely Uh, Minnesota Randy, no surprise there.
And they got some all the famous you know, they
got that famous of purple people eater.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Allan Pages in the Hall of Fame. He's one of
the two.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Men that win defensive win the m v P as
a defensive player here in al T.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Carl Ellen's in the Hall of.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Fame, John Uh, Johnny Randall, Chris Carter, fran Tarkinson, Chris Doleman,
ready the quarterback they had cunning Ham, Frank Uh Minister
H New England, Tom Stop, Uh New Orleans, Drew Stopped,
(06:34):
Uh New York al t without saying, uh, the Jeff
Joe Namath Broadway Joe. Yeah, the Eagles Reggie, because I
got to say I got a chance to play against
Reggie and his prime.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Heat that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Uh, Steelers mean Joe, and you know Steel's got a
lot of Joe Man. He was the anchor, He was
the undertackle that made it all work. Yeah, San Frian
Jerry rightfully so Seattle Russell Wilson, super.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Bowl winning quarterback, Tampa Dereck Brooks.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I thought they might go South, thought they might go
be Roy Salmon Lee.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Roy Selmon was the first overall draft pick nineteen seventy six,
the first year they came into existence, their first Hall
of Famer. But I like, I played against Brooks and so,
but I know Brooks and I know South. Ye, so
I ain't got no problem with this. The Tennessee Titans,
Warren Moon Oilers.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't go wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Or would have been Errol Campbell, but it was too short.
He was he was a short, but he.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Was like I think a three time Offensive Player of
the Year at MVP led the league in rushing, one
of the most.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Punishing backs ever ever. Yeah, Washington, Daryn Bring DG. We
couldn't it.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Couldn't that have been? That could have been Doug Williams. No,
Doug played the Tampa but he didn't. But he Doug
had a short career Tampa. You remember he won the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
With the Washington.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So Darryl Green longevity
gets him no here.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Huh oh Yeah, the chant upset the chance said it
should have been Dion or Michael Vick. Oh wait, okay
in Atlanta, but Deon only played. Deon was only there
for five years five ninety three, ninety four, went to
San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
He did two in San Francisco with in two and
down one in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, ninety four, ninety five he went to the Cowboys
and they want he wanted super Bowl in ninety four
with San fran He went to Dallas in ninety five
won the Super Bowl with them. So he only played
five years in Atlanta. Yeah, I think I'm think people
realize how short times career was then, and they let
him walk. They didn't franchise him or anything. They let
him walk, right, But.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Like I like Julio as a as the better player.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, but for the Falcon.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
But you know the quarterback always geinst a nod.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
What about Mike bi.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Culturally?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yes, that that might be still still a legend out
of there.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Man, Hey, madam, Joe will still be wearring Mike big jerseys.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Who wouldn't still.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Well he was.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I can't even explain it. I can't even explain it.
The one game when the one game when we played
the Falcons, yeah, where the whole offense was up watching.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
On the turf.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Nobody was on the bench when we played against.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Vic, him on that turf was You had to see
it there, You had to see it. Ready to start
running back, askting Gent to predict fifteen hundred rushing yards
and between ten and twenty touchdowns in his rookie season.
I'm open for fifteen hundred yards and we'll say, like
ten twenty touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Do you think that's possible for the rook Absolutely, I
don't know about those twenty touchdowns. Fifteen hundred yards, yes, yes,
I like it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, I try to say, man, you probably got who
that's probably you got to talk about Gail Sarah's. I think
Gail Sarah's had twenty rush touchdowns his rookie season, and
I think that was nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Go back and take a look at Gail's numbers. Gail
was electric, though it can comment.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Hey, I like the confident too, and setting the goals
for yourself. Setting those type of lofty goals for yourself.
Is a rookie coming in, I like it. I don't
think it's going to be as easy as he thinks
it's going to be, especially when he when he gets
to see how fast everybody else is.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Just imagine you play Penn State's defense. That's what everybody
in the NFL is.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Hey, I think a little better than that though, on.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
That's what I'm saying. And who's gonna be able to
lift coverage off you? What receivers you got? Now you
got Bowers. He's really good, And I think y'all worked
hand in hand. You know, you want to start dropped
that safety down in the box and that borers get
an opportunity to work one on one. So I do
think fifteen hundred yards might be possible. But be very doable.
(11:28):
I say ten twelve touchdowns, but twenty, man, bro, that's
a lot of tubs, don't. Joey Gales numbers his rookie
year the seven years when he read those had those
(11:53):
six had those six touchdowns in the game. Yeah, but
they only played twelve games back then. He definitely would
have had twenty touchdowns if they play it, if they'd
have played five more games.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That fourteen games and sixty five.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
He came out in sixty four, right, yeah, six yeah,
help with him in Buckers, I think buck Yeah, he
and Buckets were like, okay, I think fifteen I think
(12:34):
fifteen hundred yards is realistic. But that's still a lot
of yards. Even though it's seventeen games, that's still a
lot of yards. Oh, Joe listen, I like that's eighty
yards a game.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Oh you know how hard that is?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I do, yes, I know how hearts go. He gonna listen.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
He's gonna have to have some games where he hit
it well over one hundred and get in and I
holler at you, how how was this time?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Just curious? What are you running? Forty? Did you run
a forty? Probably? What four? Four four five?
Speaker 5 (13:11):
He doesn't he doesn't. He doesn't have he doesn't have
four four five, Okay, he didn't. His speed ain't gotta
go speed. But I like it though. But oh, fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
There's a lot of yours intend to twenty touchdown? Oh yo,
check this out. While it appears that Aaron Rodgers is
signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers, the team apparently has a
contingency plan if something goes awry. Jeremy Filer said, based
on conversations he had during last week's NFL league meetings,
Kirk Cousins at best, at very least.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
On the Steelers' radar.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Filer said the Steelers were interested earlier this offseason and
the possibly possibility of acquiring Cousins. It was reported last
month that the Fivelers had discussions with multiple teams regarding
a possible trade of Cousins, but that Atlanta was looking
for team to take on a significant portion, at least
twenty million of the remaining thirty seven and a half
million guaranteed on Cousins contract. The Falcons asking price might
(14:11):
be more reasonable. Now, however, remember O Joe, Yeah, the
game fifty million signed last year, Yes, sir, and he
got thirty seven guaranteed this year. So he got a
one hundred million dollar coming over the next three years
for the guarantee. And when I had, oh yo, the
(14:32):
thing that I said, I said, oh yo, let's just
say for in the best case scenario, right, he played
two years. I said, O yo, what if he only
gives you one, which is what he gave us half
for one.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
He gave us half of that one.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
But listen, as long as the fact that they're even waiting,
I'm sure they're probably in talks right now with the
Falcons about wanting to acquire Kirk Cousins and paying that
winning me in that the Falcons would want them to
pay on his salary because here waiting on Aaron Rodgers
when they have is it OTAs coming up a mini Yeah, Like,
(15:12):
I mean, listen, I know you you're a veteran.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
But I would love I would love Maybe it's just
me if I was in his position, I would love
to be there right now.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, I would too. I would love.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I would love to be there.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I would love the continuity, you know, getting getting acclimated
with the offense and having having that much of a
head start. If that's what I really want to do,
I don't know, but but Aaron and Aaron listen, I
think he I think he's he feels like he's played
long enough.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
He doesn't need to be there. The game of football
is all the same.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And I don't know, well, I mean personally, I think
you heard him in his relationship with not not personal
relationship but his own field relationship with some of the
receivers Finger in New York.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah, I've heard. I've heard. I could be wrong that
he was he was doing with with DK.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, I think it wash it out here in l A. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
So I mean if if they if they were thrown together.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Then that's that's you don't realize d not the only
receiver on the team, right.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah, but he would be that that need to be
the main guy.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
James Harrison got him on the viral good Night Trent
and called Brett keesel, let's take a look at the
video with Joe.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, are good.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
It'll send us some picture you made a couple of more,
couple of house.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Okay, so y'all going back home now? Yeah? Okay, what
you doing?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Shit?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Man? Just laying in dead man. I'll just call him
to tell you a getting that.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Man the caps, y'all listen. That's one of the funniest
things going on right now. Man, that trend I've seen
(17:03):
some seen some of the commanding players do it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, try to get j D like, bro what you want?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
It was, Yeah, yeah, that's fight, especially the authentic reaction
of having someone tell you good night, especially the Fellas,
when you know it's not normal, it's not common.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
It's something.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Somebody, a guy calling and telling you good night. It's
all it's gonna it's gonna listen. Let's just say, for
the sake of argument, you all did it a one
time and they didn't nobody know it was a trend.
I think people are starting to catch you on now
and so they're gonna play into it. But if everybody
did it that one. Just just take athlete athlete and
you call somebody, man, look here, you you better bleeve
(17:48):
that out.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
The first thing listen, all the people I could think of,
you're gonna say, man, stop playing on my phone.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah yes, you know they're gonna say something you can't.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You can't yeah yeah, So yeah, that was That's why
I don't play a whole That's why I don't play
on the phone. Mm hmmuse before a before I said, hey, man,
you got me on speaker.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, they asked me to say that. Man, I'm on speaker.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Oh that's you should have told me. Oh, Joe, have
you seen the Saint one, the Cooper Dijon Alley hoop video.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Let's watch this.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
He bouncey got bouncy bnies.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah. I think about it.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
At the rims eleven feet right, ten up ten listen.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I think every NFL player, especially at the skilled position,
they can dunk.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
They can dunk everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh yeah, I mean face foot tall with a thirty
plus edge vertical. Yeah, you can get dunk because you're
on forbaly two feet long. You got a thirty plus
edge vertical. That's two and a half feet plus you
six foot so you should be good.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He done that thing with authority.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Yeah, like, huh, you should. You should see me dunk.
You know my vertical at the combat was what forty two?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
No, it wasn't, but okay, oh you see a dude
that ran that four one forty. I think he ran.
I think he won the big team in the one
hundred meters. The white kid at that hour.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Oh he still Hey, he blake and he could run.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, I think he wasn't a hundred meters him? Is
it is it? Really? Is it really? For one though? Yeah?
Oh yeah he could run, No, he could he could
get out. He came went out, Christian, you call, but
he jumped out them blocks.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Christian Coleman can get out and I don't think out.
Ain't Christian Coleman starting in his prime. But he can
get out. Oh he got out on the board that
they almost came and got him. But hey, he is
out there. I think that was him? Was that him?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Mashed?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I forgot?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Now it wasn't the big ten in the one hundred
meters dash, the white guy from Iowa?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Is that the one that ran that four?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Was something at uh at the com at the uh
at Ioura for spring day or something.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
But you know how fast you know how fast for
one is? You know you have that night that might
be what sixteen steps a look? Maybe less?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Maybe less?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I mean I saw a guy, uh we have a
dB run four two on grass on grass.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yeah, that's a whole lot of talk.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yep, that's him, Joe, He ran four one nine, right.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I need I need it, he needed he needs.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Cob ran four one two.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah you saying ran four to ran four two two
with with with with a sweat fants.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Off playing around you ran four one five.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
He can get out on you.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I'm telling you, if you watch us, go go pull
it up on YouTube and watch him how he got out.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
He can get out.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Yeah, I gotta I gotta see that.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
All right, it's time for final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
One of the what if I ran one, I probably
wouldn't been able to run now route.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh you can run a round. All is gonna do
is get you to that safety quicker.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You better stay your ass on the outside.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
That's a headache.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I mean the only guy, I mean, they've been only
a handful of guys that's been able to run like
that on your that was not afraid to go like
Tyreek that have that kind of speed. Yeah, and and
and didn't live predominantly outside. I re catches all the
dbreaking rocks. Normally, when you have that kind of speed,
you ain't really try to get hit m all you
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running to go rounds. But Tyreek turned himself into a
very good receiver where he could run the route tree
and that's what makes him so dangerous. Uh, Patrick Arthur said,
o Jo stephen A said, Tyreese Halliburton ain't a superstar, Ben,
neither of Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Would you I think Tyrese Haliburton is a star. I
don't think he's a superstar. Now I could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
My my basketball prowess is there is nowhere near yours
or maybe nowhere near those in the chat that enjoy
the game of basketball.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
But he's a star.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah, you know slouts, but superstar is reserved for the.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
But they but a handful of them. I mean we
throw this term super star and star. We throw all
those terms around loosely, and it's kind of devalued a
little bit, o, yo, because anybody have a you know,
a year or two or great basketball. Oh you're a superstar, man.
You used to have to put work in. Yeah, you
had to get a couple of you know, MVP, go
(23:18):
to the finals. You know you had to put some
work in, not just have a couple of good seasons.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
How y'all, how y'all being it's your boy from South Dakota. Patrick,
We've been all right, we've been all right. Life is good,
Life is good. Happy about a farm, said Thunder walk
the Wolves down with a poker face.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Well, they look. If you look at.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
The way the Thunder came out tonight, it was a
lot different than what they came out from Game three.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, and they knew they could.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
They could not allow the crowd to get into it
like they did in game three, and they came out
meant business. They came out with the purpose of like,
we're going back home three to one, We're not going
back home too to two, And they did what they
set out to do.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
You know what, if they hurry up and in this
series and win this next game, won't they have even
that much more time to rest?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yes? Yes, all the pins. Do the any and the
Pacers take a three to one lead? Or do they
go back to MSG TI to too right?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Zeke to god ninety six. Do you think the Knicks
will make a comeback? Everything is contingent on this game.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
If they win game four, I say they make a
comeback and they win in seven.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
If they don't, they're going home in five.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Colin, if Aaron Donald really MVP for the Rams, y'all
forgetting Saint Louis Day's greatest show on turf.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Okay you won't. So basically, okay, let's go back.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
You got Jim Hart, the Rams, you got the Fearsome
Force Them, you got Merland Olson, who was a fourteen
time pro bowler, you got Deacon, you got a Rosie career,
and you.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Got Lamar Lundy.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
If you go all the way back to Saint Louis,
you got Jan Hart at Saint Louis. You got Dad
Dialough at Saint Louis, you got Otis Anderson at Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Those are the really only guys I could think of
in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Now, if you go to Phoenix, no, I mean that's
the Cardinals, my bad Rams, Saint Louis Rams. Okay, let's
go back to LA, because they started in La, then
they moved and then they moved back. Sam Water, Yeah,
(25:42):
I look, okay, you're on Kurt Warner, Isaac Bruce or
Pays Marshall. Fauk Marshall Falk. You gotta realize it's not
like Kurt's been a whole lot of time. Then, Man,
(26:02):
it wasn't that Longe, wasn't It's Aaron Donah, Aaron Donald
the dominant the eight first team, I think, eight time
first Team All Pro, Defensive Rookie of the Year, three
time Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, I think it's a dyeh.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And it's not to take anything away from all those
other guys, because Kurt's in the Hall of Fame, Marshalls
in the Hall of Fame, Isaac Bruce is in the
Hall of Fame, Orlando paces in the Hall of Fame,
toward Holts eventually going to get in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
But it's a it's a it's a d way too smooth.
Brett Farv or Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
He said the Packers franchise went to two Super bowl
he was the only player to win three m VP's
in the row he did, but Aaron has four MVPs.
Aaron was a Super Bowl MVP, and Aaron Rodgers has
more touchdowns with few interceptions. I don't know, Bro, I mean,
(27:10):
does does never have more touchdown for the Packers than Aaron,
I mean than Brett because I'm looking, no, I'm thinking
one more m v P Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I think he's been to more Pro Bowls. I think
they've been to the same. I think they've been the same.
Same is as far as all pros. I think Aaron
might have four. Brett has three for the Packers. Yes, yeah,
(27:59):
so much. And we look at the interceptions. Aaron Rodgers
has less than one hundred interceptions for the Packers with
four hundred and seventy five touchdowns. Brett gotta have at
least two hundred for the Packers. Right, how many interceptions
does Brett have? Yeah, one on five for the Packers.
(28:19):
So who has four hundred and forty four hundred and
seventy five touchdowns one hundred and five interceptions? It Brett
has two hundred and eighty six interceptions with four hundred
and forty two touchdown.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is to go for the Packers.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
And just those numbers you just rambled off about what
Aaron Rodgers was able to do in the past is
one of the reasons why the goddamn Steelers is actually waiting.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You're waiting and Sean Taylor isn't there. I mean he
probably could have been there, but he didn't play enough years.
You gotta realize DJ played twenty years at corner. Yeah,
how many twenty of your quarters? You think you ever
go see a the end of your life be the
m v P.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
It's not happening.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
It's not not uh big t D the one uncanocha.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
If you guys want the same team in your prime,
who is the number one option? Mhm h.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
So I don't care about the double. I'm gonna get mine.
I'm gonna get mine. I'm gonna get mine.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I'm not sure that I was always the number one option,
but I just know I led my team in receiving.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
For six straight years.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Dude, me too.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You let you led bingals six straight years? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Sure, I led the a FC four years in a row.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, see, I ain't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, I let the I let my team seven of
the fourteen years finish one catch. I almost had eight
codre called one more pass than I did. I started
to go back there there and catch another past of time. Well,
Jamar Chase not really one hundred percent on playing flag
(30:18):
football in the twenty twenty eight Olympics.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I don't know. I want to hear more information about it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I want to know the timing for US off season
and the season. I want to know if we're getting paid.
I want to know where we're traveling every week, every
other day, every day, like all parts of it. Because
we have an offseason, we have a life. How long
would it be. I don't know. There's a lot of
questions to it. I think it's pretty cool, but I'm
not really one hundred percent on it yet.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Yeah, I mean I like it. I like it and
I like also.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
After heard one of the reporters ask him how he
felt about those that love and play the game of
flag football professionally and making sure they're incorporated in some way,
he said, obviously, he says he needs to do his
homework on it. But listen, du Set, who obviously the
quarterback who's very very good and he plays flag flag
at the highest level. You know, he spoke out and said, Hi,
(31:09):
he felt it wasn't fair that the game they love
is being taken over by NFL players. Yeah, for sure,
anyone is going to represent our country and a flag
football format, it should be them, So do said, I'm
sure you're gonna see this, and I hope y'all get
get the do justice that you guys deserve for the
game that you guys love to play, and it's not
taken over by those that play.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
NFL football.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
They can, they can come help contribute and get a
better understanding of the game. But actually them just going
from NFL football with a certain set of rules and
thinking they're going to learn and dominate the game of
flag football, and just acidine to think, yeah flag tough.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Hey, look, I know, I know we all at least
and y'all played the game of football. I play no
other sport outside of basketball. But just this, what boyut
a year ago we got a flag football team out
here hamming part.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And guess what it's co ed man, we're getting our steam.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I'm talking about Listen, I'm talking about the girls can
throw catch. I'm talking about they got all type of
little nuances in the game that if you ain't never
played it out there, you're lost.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah. Yeah, hey, they're game different now.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I thought for some NFL guys, I'm like, oh man,
they'll probably be all right.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
But y'all saying, ain't no way.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Yeah, it's hard, Joe, it's too many, it's too it's
too many tricks, there's too many nuances, it's too rid
going on the knee, and they can manipulate the game
in ways that.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
NFL players aren't used to I don't care how fast
and quick you are. Having those attributes you know, to
apply to your game. Now, that's all nice and dandy
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
But flag Man, like he said, Okay, how much time
are they gonna have to devote because it's not like
it's like, oh, Joe, you much like basketball. But basketball,
you know, when the when the pros came, you know,
came back in ninety two when they went to Barcelona,
bad practice. So what are you gonna do? You just
(33:16):
gonna have these guys out there, Hey, okay, you want
to play? Okay, okay, Lamar, you could be the quarterback. Hey, uh,
Jedda Tyreek, you don't want to play? Now, they're gonna
have to They're gonna have to go practice. And like
he said, that's their off season. And just like you
got the basketball, Joe, they got to give up a
large part of the off season, Joe, because so the
(33:36):
what she comes over with and then you got you know,
like in basketball, they got the world and they got
all the Usas and they got all this other stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But it's it's gonna be different.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
It ain't just okay you hey, y'all just show up, right.
So I'm gon to push what Chas is talking about. Yeah, yeah,
chemistry and continuity. Man, you can't cheat that. You can't cheat.
You think you can have the most talented guys and
just go out there and beat up on folks. But man, listen,
if ya ain't on the same page, it's around especial.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
When you don't know know the rules and you haven't
been doing it for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Bears are reportedly looking for Caleb Williams to improve his
body language and other fine finer nuances. Per Abbert Brear.
While the coaches understood the beating they that he took,
they showed faim to emphasize how he'd been slow to
pull himself off the ground. Williams reportedly is eagerly to
make these changes. I agree, boy, the language is everything
on Joe you ideas.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yeah, yeah, but listen, we talked about Chicago. We talked
about Chicago Bears. We talk about the same team and
had Jake Cutler who showed no emotion.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
The whole time.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
But I told I totally understand I totally understand them.
But keep your quarterback up right, Keep your quarterback up
right the best way you can. He wouldn't have to
be slow to get up off the ground because he's
tired of geting up tied to get him up from there.
He's tired. I understand him. That's why you're getting up slowly.
The fast the faster you get up, the quicker you're
gonna be back back down there.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Well, I think, like you know, like the quarterbacks normally,
they normally spring up because now you make it seem
like it's the offensive line. You know, you don't want
to show anybody up, so just you know, just just
pop on back up, like hey, yeah, we know a
we know you take. Yeah, we know you get. And
like you said, the coaches understood the beating that he took. Yeah,
(35:28):
but hey, I ain't finn to show the defense. Y'all
ain't finna know. Somebody might get a clean shot on me,
O joe, but you ain't gonna know it. If I
could get up, I'm gonna get my hands up. Got
to have some stuff broken. I laid right there, y'all
come on to get me. Well, I wrote my collar
balle fracticed by O socker joke.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I laid right there. But other than that, I took
some TuS of mean shots. Don't remember a whole lot,
but yeah, that that opened the bone. Yeah, hey, laid out.
I would lay it out for a minute too.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
They hurt.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
They felt like the whole side of my face exploded. Man, listen,
Oh when I did mine, they took me to the bank. Man,
I thought somebody was hitting me in the back of
my head with a hammer. That thing even hurting. So
Bay just was what what I'm talking They wasn't going away, Ojoe, damn. Yeah, hey,
(36:20):
I'm talking about ringing ringing. That ain't hurt. It definitely hurt.
The Falcons posted this picture today before promptly promptly deleting it.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
We're out here three twenty.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Eight, what's wrong with it? While they deleted, uh yeah,
what we miss her? Twenty eighty three Patriots Falcons?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
All right, okay, okay, okayo oh so they got somebody.
The jokes, the jokes went flying. Uh yep, okay, I understandable.
But that's the past. That's the past completed for that.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Look, yeah, Atlanta, gonna ever forget that? Joe.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
You better tell him, man, listen, Oh, joy, it's so happened.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I was playing for the Brooklyn Nests at the time.
But I was here in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
We finna play the Hawks a couple of days, so
you know, I had a little shin dig at the crib.
My partner came over here, he had his wife and
his son dicked out and Atlanta. Yeah, I'm talking about boy,
they going crazy and halftime, you hear me throwing a
whole running of the bulls in my kitchen, going crazy.
You hear me o Jo the boy when they leaves
(37:30):
started triggling down. You should have seen that. Man, Hey,
he lost it. He couldn't believe it was already lost. Freaks, man,
my home boy. Many pictures they parted in the.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Street with Fuper Bowl covered to Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
What I tell you, hey, I'm not not even trying
to be funny. When the twenty eighty three on, I
honestly thought the game was over. I had jumped on
the video game. I started playing FIFA because I'm just
thinking about it. And you know, as playing the game
as long as I played it, especially two teams that
are as good as they are to get to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
To be down twenty eight three, there's really no way
you can come back from that run.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
The ball they made, they made everyon stake that would
not run the football? How you how you up twenty
eight three and you have fewer rushes in the second
half then the team that's down twenty eight three. Matt Ryan, No,
damn well, he can't take a sack because they in
field goal range and he took a sack. And the
play that changed it is when Tevin Campbell got hurt.
(38:29):
They brought the back up back in. I forget it,
I forget his name, and he whiffed. And hot tower
they had they got open for a touchdown and Matt
Ryan was fin to throw it and in the process
high Tower hitting he fumbled.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Mm that that that fourth down catch from Edelman two?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
That ain't nothing? Oh yeah, that ain't well it was
almost picked off.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Yeah, that was number of the football guards, right, But.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Think about it. Lay the ball gave oh Joe the
fourth quarter. I think it was like inside of two minutes.
Julio made that great toe touch. Yeah you in field
goal yes line, Oh that was beautiful. You in field
goal rage. Now just run the football. Yeah, why would you?
Why would you? And Matt Ryan had been playing long enough,
he knows he can't take a sack in that situation
(39:17):
on Joe.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
He can't, you just can't. Hey.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Look, they built that beautiful, that beautiful stadium right after
that thinking they was gonna.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Get right back to that and uh man, get back
by it is listen, man, home bout you take over.
They went.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
They played us in ninety eight, so it was almost
twenty years before they went back again.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Oh boy, Hey, I think people people have been spoiled
by the Patriots consistently going back over and over and
over in Kansas City, in Kansas City now recently.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It's hard, man, and it's a testament to how greate
twelve and fifteen are. Yep, there's a reason they make. Man,
You you get the point.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I don't need to.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
I don't need to get into that.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Someone built the worst franchise, the worst NFL franchises, building
the worst NFL franchises logo Washington, Jersey, the Browns Stadium,
Commanders Offense, Browns Defense, Jags coaching, Cowboys City Las Vegas Fans, Chargers,
(40:24):
Mascot Raiders.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
O Yo, hold on, y'all think that the weakest Jersey
brown Yeah? Yeah, hold on? What you've seen the Browns
all white? That ain't what they're known for. They're known
for them. Do to the Browns about.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Okay, that all white, all white Penn State now all
white Browns uniform.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
When you think of the Browns, you think of that
jersey that's in that picture. Okay, right, and look at
the helmet. Ain't got no detail.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Stadium Now, I played in that stadium and oh my goodness,
almost twenty almost thirty years so I don't know what
it was. It was fairly new when we played in it,
so it seemed. But obviously they're looking to build a
new stadium now, so clearly it's outdated. The Browns offense Okay, yeah,
(41:21):
Jacksonville's defense coaching Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
I was wrong with Vegas. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I didn't understand that one fans. Chargers ain't got no fans.
They should what they should what the Charges should have done.
O Joe was renovated that stadium. I don't know. First
of all, you don't have the fan base that's gonna
follow you. If I'm a Chargers fan, I'm not driving.
I'm not driving that. I'm not driving those two hours.
Well it's only like ninety minutes. That's just everything is perfect.
(41:50):
If the interstate opens up it's ninety minutes, but it's
probably about four three year and a half four hours.
Chargers ain't got new fan based like that. They don't.
I'm being I'm being honest. They should have just read
the money that they put to go into so far
it could be second class to the Rams. They should
(42:11):
have just put that money into that stadium and built
that right there. And the mascot what the rated the
Raiders used to have. I don't know if that's it
used to be the black guy, the pirate guy with
the shoulder pass. Hey, hold on, sho Do the Chargers
(42:32):
and the Rams had the same note They played in
the same building sofar stadium stand Kronky come to the
Rams and uh, what's the guy named the owner?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Chargers ash him and his sister?
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Uh Sprano spanos dean spanos and it's they own it.
But Kronky owns he owns the Avalanche, he owns uh uh,
the Nuggets, and he owns the Arsenal he own I
think he owns he owns a soccer team too.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I think it's Arsenal.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Hey, Hey, trunky, smooth as hell man when you meet him? Man,
mm hmm, he flea fly, he fly he a smooth dude.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Yeah h yeah, Rapids. Oh yeah. He owned the soccer team,
the uh yeah, Colorado Rapids.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah. The volume
Oh, y'all, each NFL teams go. Can you see that
right there? They got each NFL team's going. I think
Fan Duel did that.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
In fact, I saw this earlier on Do you got
any objections?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Hold on, ash Ash, if you can hear me, can
you text that to my phone?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
My eyes are My eyes are bad? I like this.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Somebody sent it to me earlier too.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Uh, but I was I was at the concert, so
I wasn't able to.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Ask Herbie.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, she said it to you.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Hold on, it's coming.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I like.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I like stuff like this too. I mean, you have
any objections based on what you see so far?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Okay, there we go. I got it now.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Larry Ferzdrell absolutely, Matt Ryan. I would have loved to
put Julio Jones there instead, but be at Ryan. I
totally understand the quarterback Ravens ray Lewis.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Of course, that's all well, I don't know what it's
all saying done if it might not be lamar lamar.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Okay, yeah, when it's all said and done, yeah, probably,
But you got to understand ray Reggae.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
You two super bowls, gave two Super Bowls, two time
Defensive Player of the Year he's he's he's universally regarded
as the best middle linebacker they ever played the game.
I was very fortunate to play with him for two
years and know what he put in it to become
what he became. So I ain't got no problem with that. Yeah, Lucy,
I played against Bruce. Yeah about Buffalo, yep, Jim.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I mean I think for the for the Bills, it
could it could have gone two ways. It could have
win Jim Kelly or it could have Bruce Smith. You
can't go wrong either way. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I think Bruce? Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And Plus Bruce was a two time Defensive Player of
the Year, All Decade player in the eighties, in the nineties.
Uh huh. Now we'll see what Josh Allen does. Can
he take him to the Super Bowl and unseated?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Cam?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And I think Cam also with Cam, you can slash
Luke Keigley even though it was short, it was short lives.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
What about Julius Pepper b Smith. It's tougher than you
think for Carolina, is it? But Cam quarterback MVP took
it to the Super Bowl. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Walter Payton Okay, hands down, Anthony Munos.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Absolutely, Jim Brown.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Ain't nobody unseating him. Okay, yeah, I can live with that. John, Okay,
uh huh for Detroit Yeah okay, okay too Temper. You
do realize was a two time league MVP, right, John, Okay,
(02:51):
I live with that.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That's a good one. Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Absolutely, Aaron Rodgers. Wow, well, Brett, I'm not yeah, I'm
not surprised. I mean he got four MVPs, Brett got three,
he was a Super Bowl MVP winner, more touchdowns, fewer interceptions.
I'm cool. I'm perfectly cool with that. And they have
some great they have some great players. You got Bart Starr,
James Lofton in the Pro Bowl. My brother's going to
(03:14):
the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You have a.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Ray Nitsky, Walter, Willie Davis, herb Adeley. Oh, they got
a wald Horning Taylor right, Yes, yes, Aaron Rodgers, JJ Watt, Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Even though with Johnny U Ninus and they got some player.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yes, hold on, hold on now you skipped now that
Houston's one. Now I was slashed Andre Johnson as well.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well. First of all, that's with JJ. Three defensive players
of the Year.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh, Joe, I mean you, I mean you could probably
make a case he's the top five defensive player of
all time with what he's been, what he was able
to do those years. He's the only guy to have
multiple twenty SAX seasons. Okay, all right, fell with that.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Peyton Fanning.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Even though you got Johnny u Ninas, you got some
great players, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, you got some great
players that uh uh that played there. But for me,
as Kayton, I was a little surprised by this. Fred Taylor,
are you surprise? Yeah. I thought they'd probably go with
Tony Baselli.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Oh, one of the greatest, probably one of the greatest
left tackles of all time.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yep, yeah, But Fred had longevity. Vaselli got hurt, his
shoulders gave out on him.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Haven't matter.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I FA had a great conversation with him. He was
at the last Super Bowl. I was on a panel
with it.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
So Patrick Mahomes, yeah, goes without saying, hey, Marcus Fallen
the greatest crast Marcus.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, but you know, look, they have some great players.
They got a lot of Hall of famers exactly. That's
why That's why I just said, But Marcus Man, look,
you gotta understand he and al had a really falling out.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
He was blocking for Bo Jackson.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
L T.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Absolutely I was fortunate enough to play in the tailor
in my career against LT.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
And they have some great players.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Kellen Winslow, Damn Fouts, Philip Rivers, Gates, Fred Dean was
there for a minute, Big Hans Johnson.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Who else they had? Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
They had uh, Charlie Brenney Harrison, Yeah, that Junior sail
Yeah yeah, that h uh Charlie, Jonan West, they had
John Jefferson, the moon Man, the moon forget what's what's
West's last name?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
But they have some good receivers there, Kellen Winslow Senior,
the Rams, Aaron Donald, no surprise there, without question, the Dolphins, Dano,
no surprise there, absolutely Uh, Minnesota Randy, no surprise there.
And they got some all the famous you know, they
got that famous of purple people eater.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Allan Pages in the Hall of Fame. He's one of
the two.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Men that win defensive win the m v P as
a defensive player here in al T.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Carl Ellen's in the Hall of.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Fame, John Uh, Johnny Randall, Chris Carter, fran Tarkinson, Chris Doleman,
ready the quarterback they had cunning Ham, Frank Uh Minister
H New England, Tom Stop, Uh New Orleans, Drew Stopped,
(06:34):
Uh New York al t without saying, uh, the Jeff
Joe Namath Broadway Joe. Yeah, the Eagles Reggie, because I
got to say I got a chance to play against
Reggie and his prime.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Heat that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Uh, Steelers mean Joe, and you know Steel's got a
lot of Joe Man. He was the anchor, He was
the undertackle that made it all work. Yeah, San Frian
Jerry rightfully so Seattle Russell Wilson, super.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Bowl winning quarterback, Tampa Dereck Brooks.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I thought they might go South, thought they might go
be Roy Salmon Lee.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Roy Selmon was the first overall draft pick nineteen seventy six,
the first year they came into existence, their first Hall
of Famer. But I like, I played against Brooks and so,
but I know Brooks and I know South. Ye, so
I ain't got no problem with this. The Tennessee Titans,
Warren Moon Oilers.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't go wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Or would have been Errol Campbell, but it was too short.
He was he was a short, but he.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Was like I think a three time Offensive Player of
the Year at MVP led the league in rushing, one
of the most.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Punishing backs ever ever. Yeah, Washington, Daryn Bring DG. We
couldn't it.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Couldn't that have been? That could have been Doug Williams. No,
Doug played the Tampa but he didn't. But he Doug
had a short career Tampa. You remember he won the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
With the Washington.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So Darryl Green longevity
gets him no here.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Huh oh Yeah, the chant upset the chance said it
should have been Dion or Michael Vick. Oh wait, okay
in Atlanta, but Deon only played. Deon was only there
for five years five ninety three, ninety four, went to
San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
He did two in San Francisco with in two and
down one in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, ninety four, ninety five he went to the Cowboys
and they want he wanted super Bowl in ninety four
with San fran He went to Dallas in ninety five
won the Super Bowl with them. So he only played
five years in Atlanta. Yeah, I think I'm think people
realize how short times career was then, and they let
him walk. They didn't franchise him or anything. They let
him walk, right, But.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Like I like Julio as a as the better player.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, but for the Falcon.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
But you know the quarterback always geinst a nod.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
What about Mike bi.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Culturally?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yes, that that might be still still a legend out
of there.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Man, Hey, madam, Joe will still be wearring Mike big jerseys.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Who wouldn't still.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Well he was.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I can't even explain it. I can't even explain it.
The one game when the one game when we played
the Falcons, yeah, where the whole offense was up watching.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
On the turf.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Nobody was on the bench when we played against.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Vic, him on that turf was You had to see
it there, You had to see it. Ready to start
running back, askting Gent to predict fifteen hundred rushing yards
and between ten and twenty touchdowns in his rookie season.
I'm open for fifteen hundred yards and we'll say, like
ten twenty touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Do you think that's possible for the rook Absolutely, I
don't know about those twenty touchdowns. Fifteen hundred yards, yes, yes,
I like it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, I try to say, man, you probably got who
that's probably you got to talk about Gail Sarah's. I think
Gail Sarah's had twenty rush touchdowns his rookie season, and
I think that was nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Go back and take a look at Gail's numbers. Gail
was electric, though it can comment.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Hey, I like the confident too, and setting the goals
for yourself. Setting those type of lofty goals for yourself.
Is a rookie coming in, I like it. I don't
think it's going to be as easy as he thinks
it's going to be, especially when he when he gets
to see how fast everybody else is.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Just imagine you play Penn State's defense. That's what everybody
in the NFL is.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Hey, I think a little better than that though, on.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
That's what I'm saying. And who's gonna be able to
lift coverage off you? What receivers you got? Now you
got Bowers. He's really good, And I think y'all worked
hand in hand. You know, you want to start dropped
that safety down in the box and that borers get
an opportunity to work one on one. So I do
think fifteen hundred yards might be possible. But be very doable.
(11:28):
I say ten twelve touchdowns, but twenty, man, bro, that's
a lot of tubs, don't. Joey Gales numbers his rookie
year the seven years when he read those had those
(11:53):
six had those six touchdowns in the game. Yeah, but
they only played twelve games back then. He definitely would
have had twenty touchdowns if they play it, if they'd
have played five more games.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That fourteen games and sixty five.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
He came out in sixty four, right, yeah, six yeah,
help with him in Buckers, I think buck Yeah, he
and Buckets were like, okay, I think fifteen I think
(12:34):
fifteen hundred yards is realistic. But that's still a lot
of yards. Even though it's seventeen games, that's still a
lot of yards. Oh, Joe listen, I like that's eighty
yards a game.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Oh you know how hard that is?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I do, yes, I know how hearts go. He gonna listen.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
He's gonna have to have some games where he hit
it well over one hundred and get in and I
holler at you, how how was this time?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Just curious? What are you running? Forty? Did you run
a forty? Probably? What four? Four four five?
Speaker 5 (13:11):
He doesn't he doesn't. He doesn't have he doesn't have
four four five, Okay, he didn't. His speed ain't gotta
go speed. But I like it though. But oh, fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
There's a lot of yours intend to twenty touchdown? Oh yo,
check this out. While it appears that Aaron Rodgers is
signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers, the team apparently has a
contingency plan if something goes awry. Jeremy Filer said, based
on conversations he had during last week's NFL league meetings,
Kirk Cousins at best, at very least.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
On the Steelers' radar.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Filer said the Steelers were interested earlier this offseason and
the possibly possibility of acquiring Cousins. It was reported last
month that the Fivelers had discussions with multiple teams regarding
a possible trade of Cousins, but that Atlanta was looking
for team to take on a significant portion, at least
twenty million of the remaining thirty seven and a half
million guaranteed on Cousins contract. The Falcons asking price might
(14:11):
be more reasonable. Now, however, remember O Joe, Yeah, the
game fifty million signed last year, Yes, sir, and he
got thirty seven guaranteed this year. So he got a
one hundred million dollar coming over the next three years
for the guarantee. And when I had, oh yo, the
(14:32):
thing that I said, I said, oh yo, let's just
say for in the best case scenario, right, he played
two years. I said, O yo, what if he only
gives you one, which is what he gave us half
for one.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
He gave us half of that one.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
But listen, as long as the fact that they're even waiting,
I'm sure they're probably in talks right now with the
Falcons about wanting to acquire Kirk Cousins and paying that
winning me in that the Falcons would want them to
pay on his salary because here waiting on Aaron Rodgers
when they have is it OTAs coming up a mini Yeah, Like,
(15:12):
I mean, listen, I know you you're a veteran.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
But I would love I would love Maybe it's just
me if I was in his position, I would love
to be there right now.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, I would too. I would love.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I would love to be there.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I would love the continuity, you know, getting getting acclimated
with the offense and having having that much of a
head start. If that's what I really want to do,
I don't know, but but Aaron and Aaron listen, I
think he I think he's he feels like he's played
long enough.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
He doesn't need to be there. The game of football
is all the same.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And I don't know, well, I mean personally, I think
you heard him in his relationship with not not personal
relationship but his own field relationship with some of the
receivers Finger in New York.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah, I've heard. I've heard. I could be wrong that
he was he was doing with with DK.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, I think it wash it out here in l A. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
So I mean if if they if they were thrown together.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Then that's that's you don't realize d not the only
receiver on the team, right.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah, but he would be that that need to be
the main guy.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
James Harrison got him on the viral good Night Trent
and called Brett keesel, let's take a look at the
video with Joe.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, are good.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
It'll send us some picture you made a couple of more,
couple of house.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Okay, so y'all going back home now? Yeah? Okay, what
you doing?
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Shit?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Man? Just laying in dead man. I'll just call him
to tell you a getting that.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Man the caps, y'all listen. That's one of the funniest
things going on right now. Man, that trend I've seen
(17:03):
some seen some of the commanding players do it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, try to get j D like, bro what you want?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
It was, Yeah, yeah, that's fight, especially the authentic reaction
of having someone tell you good night, especially the Fellas,
when you know it's not normal, it's not common.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
It's something.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Somebody, a guy calling and telling you good night. It's
all it's gonna it's gonna listen. Let's just say, for
the sake of argument, you all did it a one
time and they didn't nobody know it was a trend.
I think people are starting to catch you on now
and so they're gonna play into it. But if everybody
did it that one. Just just take athlete athlete and
you call somebody, man, look here, you you better bleeve
(17:48):
that out.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
The first thing listen, all the people I could think of,
you're gonna say, man, stop playing on my phone.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah yes, you know they're gonna say something you can't.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You can't yeah yeah, So yeah, that was That's why
I don't play a whole That's why I don't play
on the phone. Mm hmmuse before a before I said, hey, man,
you got me on speaker.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, they asked me to say that. Man, I'm on speaker.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Oh that's you should have told me. Oh, Joe, have
you seen the Saint one, the Cooper Dijon Alley hoop video.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Let's watch this.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
He bouncey got bouncy bnies.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah. I think about it.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
At the rims eleven feet right, ten up ten listen.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
I think every NFL player, especially at the skilled position,
they can dunk.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
They can dunk everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh yeah, I mean face foot tall with a thirty
plus edge vertical. Yeah, you can get dunk because you're
on forbaly two feet long. You got a thirty plus
edge vertical. That's two and a half feet plus you
six foot so you should be good.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He done that thing with authority.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Yeah, like, huh, you should. You should see me dunk.
You know my vertical at the combat was what forty two?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
No, it wasn't, but okay, oh you see a dude
that ran that four one forty. I think he ran.
I think he won the big team in the one
hundred meters. The white kid at that hour.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Oh he still Hey, he blake and he could run.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, I think he wasn't a hundred meters him? Is
it is it? Really? Is it really? For one though? Yeah?
Oh yeah he could run, No, he could he could
get out. He came went out, Christian, you call, but
he jumped out them blocks.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Christian Coleman can get out and I don't think out.
Ain't Christian Coleman starting in his prime. But he can
get out. Oh he got out on the board that
they almost came and got him. But hey, he is
out there. I think that was him? Was that him?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Mashed?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I forgot?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Now it wasn't the big ten in the one hundred
meters dash, the white guy from Iowa?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Is that the one that ran that four?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Was something at uh at the com at the uh
at Ioura for spring day or something.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
But you know how fast you know how fast for
one is? You know you have that night that might
be what sixteen steps a look? Maybe less?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Maybe less?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I mean I saw a guy, uh we have a
dB run four two on grass on grass.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yeah, that's a whole lot of talk.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yep, that's him, Joe, He ran four one nine, right.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I need I need it, he needed he needs.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Cob ran four one two.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah you saying ran four to ran four two two
with with with with a sweat fants.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Off playing around you ran four one five.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
He can get out on you.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I'm telling you, if you watch us, go go pull
it up on YouTube and watch him how he got out.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
He can get out.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Yeah, I gotta I gotta see that.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
All right, it's time for final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
One of the what if I ran one, I probably
wouldn't been able to run now route.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh you can run a round. All is gonna do
is get you to that safety quicker.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You better stay your ass on the outside.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
That's a headache.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I mean the only guy, I mean, they've been only
a handful of guys that's been able to run like
that on your that was not afraid to go like
Tyreek that have that kind of speed. Yeah, and and
and didn't live predominantly outside. I re catches all the
dbreaking rocks. Normally, when you have that kind of speed,
you ain't really try to get hit m all you
(22:14):
running to go rounds. But Tyreek turned himself into a
very good receiver where he could run the route tree
and that's what makes him so dangerous. Uh, Patrick Arthur said,
o Jo stephen A said, Tyreese Halliburton ain't a superstar, Ben,
neither of Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Would you I think Tyrese Haliburton is a star. I
don't think he's a superstar. Now I could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
My my basketball prowess is there is nowhere near yours
or maybe nowhere near those in the chat that enjoy
the game of basketball.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
But he's a star.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah, you know slouts, but superstar is reserved for the.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
But they but a handful of them. I mean we
throw this term super star and star. We throw all
those terms around loosely, and it's kind of devalued a
little bit, o, yo, because anybody have a you know,
a year or two or great basketball. Oh you're a superstar, man.
You used to have to put work in. Yeah, you
had to get a couple of you know, MVP, go
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to the finals. You know you had to put some
work in, not just have a couple of good seasons.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
How y'all, how y'all being it's your boy from South Dakota. Patrick,
We've been all right, we've been all right. Life is good,
Life is good. Happy about a farm, said Thunder walk
the Wolves down with a poker face.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Well, they look. If you look at.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
The way the Thunder came out tonight, it was a
lot different than what they came out from Game three.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, and they knew they could.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
They could not allow the crowd to get into it
like they did in game three, and they came out
meant business. They came out with the purpose of like,
we're going back home three to one, We're not going
back home too to two, And they did what they
set out to do.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
You know what, if they hurry up and in this
series and win this next game, won't they have even
that much more time to rest?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yes? Yes, all the pins. Do the any and the
Pacers take a three to one lead? Or do they
go back to MSG TI to too right?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Zeke to god ninety six. Do you think the Knicks
will make a comeback? Everything is contingent on this game.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
If they win game four, I say they make a
comeback and they win in seven.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
If they don't, they're going home in five.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Colin, if Aaron Donald really MVP for the Rams, y'all
forgetting Saint Louis Day's greatest show on turf.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Okay you won't. So basically, okay, let's go back.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
You got Jim Hart, the Rams, you got the Fearsome
Force Them, you got Merland Olson, who was a fourteen
time pro bowler, you got Deacon, you got a Rosie career,
and you.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Got Lamar Lundy.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
If you go all the way back to Saint Louis,
you got Jan Hart at Saint Louis. You got Dad
Dialough at Saint Louis, you got Otis Anderson at Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Those are the really only guys I could think of
in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Now, if you go to Phoenix, no, I mean that's
the Cardinals, my bad Rams, Saint Louis Rams. Okay, let's
go back to LA, because they started in La, then
they moved and then they moved back. Sam Water, Yeah,
(25:42):
I look, okay, you're on Kurt Warner, Isaac Bruce or
Pays Marshall. Fauk Marshall Falk. You gotta realize it's not
like Kurt's been a whole lot of time. Then, Man,
(26:02):
it wasn't that Longe, wasn't It's Aaron Donah, Aaron Donald
the dominant the eight first team, I think, eight time
first Team All Pro, Defensive Rookie of the Year, three
time Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, I think it's a dyeh.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And it's not to take anything away from all those
other guys, because Kurt's in the Hall of Fame, Marshalls
in the Hall of Fame, Isaac Bruce is in the
Hall of Fame, Orlando paces in the Hall of Fame,
toward Holts eventually going to get in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
But it's a it's a it's a d way too smooth.
Brett Farv or Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
He said the Packers franchise went to two Super bowl
he was the only player to win three m VP's
in the row he did, but Aaron has four MVPs.
Aaron was a Super Bowl MVP, and Aaron Rodgers has
more touchdowns with few interceptions. I don't know, Bro, I mean,
(27:10):
does does never have more touchdown for the Packers than Aaron,
I mean than Brett because I'm looking, no, I'm thinking
one more m v P Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I think he's been to more Pro Bowls. I think
they've been to the same. I think they've been the same.
Same is as far as all pros. I think Aaron
might have four. Brett has three for the Packers. Yes, yeah,
(27:59):
so much. And we look at the interceptions. Aaron Rodgers
has less than one hundred interceptions for the Packers with
four hundred and seventy five touchdowns. Brett gotta have at
least two hundred for the Packers. Right, how many interceptions
does Brett have? Yeah, one on five for the Packers.
(28:19):
So who has four hundred and forty four hundred and
seventy five touchdowns one hundred and five interceptions? It Brett
has two hundred and eighty six interceptions with four hundred
and forty two touchdown.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is to go for the Packers.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
And just those numbers you just rambled off about what
Aaron Rodgers was able to do in the past is
one of the reasons why the goddamn Steelers is actually waiting.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
You're waiting and Sean Taylor isn't there. I mean he
probably could have been there, but he didn't play enough years.
You gotta realize DJ played twenty years at corner. Yeah,
how many twenty of your quarters? You think you ever
go see a the end of your life be the
m v P.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
It's not happening.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
It's not not uh big t D the one uncanocha.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
If you guys want the same team in your prime,
who is the number one option? Mhm h.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
So I don't care about the double. I'm gonna get mine.
I'm gonna get mine. I'm gonna get mine.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I'm not sure that I was always the number one option,
but I just know I led my team in receiving.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
For six straight years.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Dude, me too.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You let you led bingals six straight years? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Sure, I led the a FC four years in a row.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, see, I ain't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, I let the I let my team seven of
the fourteen years finish one catch. I almost had eight
codre called one more pass than I did. I started
to go back there there and catch another past of time. Well,
Jamar Chase not really one hundred percent on playing flag
(30:18):
football in the twenty twenty eight Olympics.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I don't know. I want to hear more information about it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I want to know the timing for US off season
and the season. I want to know if we're getting paid.
I want to know where we're traveling every week, every
other day, every day, like all parts of it. Because
we have an offseason, we have a life. How long
would it be. I don't know. There's a lot of
questions to it. I think it's pretty cool, but I'm
not really one hundred percent on it yet.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Yeah, I mean I like it. I like it and
I like also.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
After heard one of the reporters ask him how he
felt about those that love and play the game of
flag football professionally and making sure they're incorporated in some way,
he said, obviously, he says he needs to do his
homework on it. But listen, du Set, who obviously the
quarterback who's very very good and he plays flag flag
at the highest level. You know, he spoke out and said, Hi,
(31:09):
he felt it wasn't fair that the game they love
is being taken over by NFL players. Yeah, for sure,
anyone is going to represent our country and a flag
football format, it should be them, So do said, I'm
sure you're gonna see this, and I hope y'all get
get the do justice that you guys deserve for the
game that you guys love to play, and it's not
taken over by those that play.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
NFL football.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
They can, they can come help contribute and get a
better understanding of the game. But actually them just going
from NFL football with a certain set of rules and
thinking they're going to learn and dominate the game of
flag football, and just acidine to think, yeah flag tough.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Hey, look, I know, I know we all at least
and y'all played the game of football. I play no
other sport outside of basketball. But just this, what boyut
a year ago we got a flag football team out
here hamming part.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And guess what it's co ed man, we're getting our steam.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I'm talking about Listen, I'm talking about the girls can
throw catch. I'm talking about they got all type of
little nuances in the game that if you ain't never
played it out there, you're lost.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah. Yeah, hey, they're game different now.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I thought for some NFL guys, I'm like, oh man,
they'll probably be all right.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
But y'all saying, ain't no way.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Yeah, it's hard, Joe, it's too many, it's too it's
too many tricks, there's too many nuances, it's too rid
going on the knee, and they can manipulate the game
in ways that.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
NFL players aren't used to I don't care how fast
and quick you are. Having those attributes you know, to
apply to your game. Now, that's all nice and dandy
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
But flag Man, like he said, Okay, how much time
are they gonna have to devote because it's not like
it's like, oh, Joe, you much like basketball. But basketball,
you know, when the when the pros came, you know,
came back in ninety two when they went to Barcelona,
bad practice. So what are you gonna do? You just
(33:16):
gonna have these guys out there, Hey, okay, you want
to play? Okay, okay, Lamar, you could be the quarterback. Hey, uh,
Jedda Tyreek, you don't want to play? Now, they're gonna
have to They're gonna have to go practice. And like
he said, that's their off season. And just like you
got the basketball, Joe, they got to give up a
large part of the off season, Joe, because so the
(33:36):
what she comes over with and then you got you know,
like in basketball, they got the world and they got
all the Usas and they got all this other stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But it's it's gonna be different.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
It ain't just okay you hey, y'all just show up, right.
So I'm gon to push what Chas is talking about. Yeah, yeah,
chemistry and continuity. Man, you can't cheat that. You can't cheat.
You think you can have the most talented guys and
just go out there and beat up on folks. But man, listen,
if ya ain't on the same page, it's around especial.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
When you don't know know the rules and you haven't
been doing it for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Bears are reportedly looking for Caleb Williams to improve his
body language and other fine finer nuances. Per Abbert Brear.
While the coaches understood the beating they that he took,
they showed faim to emphasize how he'd been slow to
pull himself off the ground. Williams reportedly is eagerly to
make these changes. I agree, boy, the language is everything
on Joe you ideas.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yeah, yeah, but listen, we talked about Chicago. We talked
about Chicago Bears. We talk about the same team and
had Jake Cutler who showed no emotion.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
The whole time.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
But I told I totally understand I totally understand them.
But keep your quarterback up right, Keep your quarterback up
right the best way you can. He wouldn't have to
be slow to get up off the ground because he's
tired of geting up tied to get him up from there.
He's tired. I understand him. That's why you're getting up slowly.
The fast the faster you get up, the quicker you're
gonna be back back down there.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Well, I think, like you know, like the quarterbacks normally,
they normally spring up because now you make it seem
like it's the offensive line. You know, you don't want
to show anybody up, so just you know, just just
pop on back up, like hey, yeah, we know a
we know you take. Yeah, we know you get. And
like you said, the coaches understood the beating that he took. Yeah,
(35:28):
but hey, I ain't finn to show the defense. Y'all
ain't finna know. Somebody might get a clean shot on me,
O joe, but you ain't gonna know it. If I
could get up, I'm gonna get my hands up. Got
to have some stuff broken. I laid right there, y'all
come on to get me. Well, I wrote my collar
balle fracticed by O socker joke.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I laid right there. But other than that, I took
some TuS of mean shots. Don't remember a whole lot,
but yeah, that that opened the bone. Yeah, hey, laid out.
I would lay it out for a minute too.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
They hurt.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
They felt like the whole side of my face exploded. Man, listen,
Oh when I did mine, they took me to the bank. Man,
I thought somebody was hitting me in the back of
my head with a hammer. That thing even hurting. So
Bay just was what what I'm talking They wasn't going away, Ojoe, damn. Yeah, hey,
(36:20):
I'm talking about ringing ringing. That ain't hurt. It definitely hurt.
The Falcons posted this picture today before promptly promptly deleting it.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
We're out here three twenty.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Eight, what's wrong with it? While they deleted, uh yeah,
what we miss her? Twenty eighty three Patriots Falcons?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
All right, okay, okay, okayo oh so they got somebody.
The jokes, the jokes went flying. Uh yep, okay, I understandable.
But that's the past. That's the past completed for that.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Look, yeah, Atlanta, gonna ever forget that? Joe.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
You better tell him, man, listen, Oh, joy, it's so happened.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I was playing for the Brooklyn Nests at the time.
But I was here in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
We finna play the Hawks a couple of days, so
you know, I had a little shin dig at the crib.
My partner came over here, he had his wife and
his son dicked out and Atlanta. Yeah, I'm talking about boy,
they going crazy and halftime, you hear me throwing a
whole running of the bulls in my kitchen, going crazy.
You hear me o Jo the boy when they leaves
(37:30):
started triggling down. You should have seen that. Man, Hey,
he lost it. He couldn't believe it was already lost. Freaks, man,
my home boy. Many pictures they parted in the.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Street with Fuper Bowl covered to Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
What I tell you, hey, I'm not not even trying
to be funny. When the twenty eighty three on, I
honestly thought the game was over. I had jumped on
the video game. I started playing FIFA because I'm just
thinking about it. And you know, as playing the game
as long as I played it, especially two teams that
are as good as they are to get to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
To be down twenty eight three, there's really no way
you can come back from that run.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
The ball they made, they made everyon stake that would
not run the football? How you how you up twenty
eight three and you have fewer rushes in the second
half then the team that's down twenty eight three. Matt Ryan, No,
damn well, he can't take a sack because they in
field goal range and he took a sack. And the
play that changed it is when Tevin Campbell got hurt.
(38:29):
They brought the back up back in. I forget it,
I forget his name, and he whiffed. And hot tower
they had they got open for a touchdown and Matt
Ryan was fin to throw it and in the process
high Tower hitting he fumbled.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Mm that that that fourth down catch from Edelman two?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
That ain't nothing? Oh yeah, that ain't well it was
almost picked off.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Yeah, that was number of the football guards, right, But.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Think about it. Lay the ball gave oh Joe the
fourth quarter. I think it was like inside of two minutes.
Julio made that great toe touch. Yeah you in field
goal yes line, Oh that was beautiful. You in field
goal rage. Now just run the football. Yeah, why would you?
Why would you? And Matt Ryan had been playing long enough,
he knows he can't take a sack in that situation
(39:17):
on Joe.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
He can't, you just can't. Hey.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Look, they built that beautiful, that beautiful stadium right after
that thinking they was gonna.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Get right back to that and uh man, get back
by it is listen, man, home bout you take over.
They went.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
They played us in ninety eight, so it was almost
twenty years before they went back again.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Oh boy, Hey, I think people people have been spoiled
by the Patriots consistently going back over and over and
over in Kansas City, in Kansas City now recently.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It's hard, man, and it's a testament to how greate
twelve and fifteen are. Yep, there's a reason they make. Man,
You you get the point.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I don't need to.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
I don't need to get into that.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Someone built the worst franchise, the worst NFL franchises, building
the worst NFL franchises logo Washington, Jersey, the Browns Stadium,
Commanders Offense, Browns Defense, Jags coaching, Cowboys City Las Vegas Fans, Chargers,
(40:24):
Mascot Raiders.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
O Yo, hold on, y'all think that the weakest Jersey
brown Yeah? Yeah, hold on? What you've seen the Browns
all white? That ain't what they're known for. They're known
for them. Do to the Browns about.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Okay, that all white, all white Penn State now all
white Browns uniform.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
When you think of the Browns, you think of that
jersey that's in that picture. Okay, right, and look at
the helmet. Ain't got no detail.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Stadium Now, I played in that stadium and oh my goodness,
almost twenty almost thirty years so I don't know what
it was. It was fairly new when we played in it,
so it seemed. But obviously they're looking to build a
new stadium now, so clearly it's outdated. The Browns offense Okay, yeah,
(41:21):
Jacksonville's defense coaching Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
I was wrong with Vegas. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I didn't understand that one fans. Chargers ain't got no fans.
They should what they should what the Charges should have done.
O Joe was renovated that stadium. I don't know. First
of all, you don't have the fan base that's gonna
follow you. If I'm a Chargers fan, I'm not driving.
I'm not driving that. I'm not driving those two hours.
Well it's only like ninety minutes. That's just everything is perfect.
(41:50):
If the interstate opens up it's ninety minutes, but it's
probably about four three year and a half four hours.
Chargers ain't got new fan based like that. They don't.
I'm being I'm being honest. They should have just read
the money that they put to go into so far
it could be second class to the Rams. They should
(42:11):
have just put that money into that stadium and built
that right there. And the mascot what the rated the
Raiders used to have. I don't know if that's it
used to be the black guy, the pirate guy with
the shoulder pass. Hey, hold on, sho Do the Chargers
(42:32):
and the Rams had the same note They played in
the same building sofar stadium stand Kronky come to the
Rams and uh, what's the guy named the owner?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Chargers ash him and his sister?
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Uh Sprano spanos dean spanos and it's they own it.
But Kronky owns he owns the Avalanche, he owns uh uh,
the Nuggets, and he owns the Arsenal he own I
think he owns he owns a soccer team too.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I think it's Arsenal.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Hey, Hey, trunky, smooth as hell man when you meet him? Man,
mm hmm, he flea fly, he fly he a smooth dude.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Yeah h yeah, Rapids. Oh yeah. He owned the soccer team,
the uh yeah, Colorado Rapids.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah. The volume
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