May 30, 2025 • 43 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad 'Ochocinco' are joined by NBA Champion Mario Chalmers to discuss who is better all time Kevin Durant or Giannis Antetokounmpo & much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Milwaukee Bucks are reportedly hoping that the presidence of
Doc Rivers will make Giannis after to Kunpo more likely
to stay in Milwaukee. Per Mark Stein's the Bucks are
hoping that the presidence of Doc as a coach can
provide some sort of boost at the Koonpoin and Rivers
are believed to have a strong working relationship.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You know, we're not staying. I mean, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So he had a terripling, So Jason Kidds gone, Mike
Budenholders gone, who won? He was there when he got
them two MVP's and they got a finals MVP that
won a championship. Adrian Griffin was fired after going forty
what forty one and thirteen?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Got Doc?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So I'm just trying to figure out and I'm just
trying to figure out how what am I mixing?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
What? What is it?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
What is it that they see that we don't listen?
The man doesn't want to be there. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what why they're.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I don't know Joe, I don't know if he doesn't
want to be there or if he doesn't believe that
they can win there, he can win there.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You're not going to be able to There's nothing you're
gonna be able to do. Bringing in Doc Rivers isn't
going to get you a chance at contention.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
For it will be able to get you any more
players because you can't sign anything and you want to
stay out of that second apron bingo.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So that mean that goes without saying, I don't know,
traded holiday.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You traded the holiday and gave up draft picks to
get Dame and out.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Dame is out.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I think maybe his decision making would be a little
different if Dame wasn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
No, you don't think so. No, because they didn't get
to the Eastern Conference finals in the year that Dane
was there. And there there are some times that they
play really good, but it's kind of hard because you know,
and you think Giannis needs the ball to clear and
and and Dame likes to have the ball to do
what he does. Sometimes it looks good, but more times
than not, it's just like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He doesn't want to be there. I hate to regurgitate
it and say it again. I told you where Yiannis
is going, I told you how that's gonna go.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well I'm not I'm not saying I don't I disagree
with you, But what I am saying, what are you
gonna give up about? I just don't see a scenario
where you keep Bam and Tyler hero and still be
able to get Yannest.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Funny thing about it is we never know the scenario.
That's up to the team, that's up to all the teams.
Let me say it like this, up to all the
teams involved.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You know, he's.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Getten and answers where he liked to be, where he
liked to play, sublimately by answer questions on Twitter. I
mean the proof is in the putting is right there.
I mean everyone's going to have these expert opinions on
where he should go.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, that's how you put tray scenarios together. Okay, and
you the Flakers, you know off limits. You know you're
not getting Lebron and you're not getting Luca. So now
you start playing with pieces. Okay, if ar avail available
is ruined available, you start playing with pieces who could
possibly leave and who could possibly come.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So, with that being said, that's the only way you
can put a tracer there. You're talking about you gotta
do hypotheticals. You know, the Uh, I'm just trying to see.
I'm looking at the pieces that would Miami have. They
only got two pieces I would want. Why would y'allnys
want to go to the Miami and and and bam
and Tyler Hero isn't there.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It's the same thing that happened with Carmelo when he
went to the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Nobody there?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
You got them?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, where you think about it, What the hell's would
he go? Where the hell's where the hell else where
Yanni's go right now? Where they're gonna have to give
up something for him to even get him and still
not be right back in the.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Same type of situation you were in in Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I think the thing is, Ojo, you're gonna have to
get multiple teams involved, but you're gonna have to satisfy
Milwaukee Milwaukee Joanna. Think about it, o Jo, you lost Kareem.
How long before you got something to replace Kareem? Your
second best player in franchise history, Janni's. I think he's
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the second best because Kareem won three titles with the
two en you got there, I will will't even three.
I mean, you need to look up Kareem's stats because
everybody that think Kareem was a bum.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Y'all need to look at Kareem before he got old.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Because like in the eighties, he still won finals MVP
at like thirty seven, thirty eight years of age. But
you got to go back and look at him when
he from his from his rookie year until he was
about thirty. Go check him out, Go check out his stats,
and let me know what you think. With that being said, Uh,
Louis Joannis a superstar. See that's what that for the
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longest time, that's what really hurt. Okay, See because see
Kevin Durant was a free agent and he left. Imagine
what you could have got for Kevin Durant if you
did a sign in trade. So now you and it's
absolute prime, well hell before his prime.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But now so now you get a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I mean, you're gonna get draft out the galore and a
couple of solid players.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
That's what you would have gotten. But he left.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
You got nothing walkside the door. Same thing of gold
to state he walked out the door.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So when I think about teams with draft capital.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Brooklyn got draft capital, Houston got draft capital and players.
Because you got Shingoon, I'm not getting rid of arm
and Thompson. Armond Thompson is not going anywhere, right, So
you got capital. Uh, you got Jabari Smith Junior, you
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got Eason. So they got capital and they got draft picks.
See that's the thing, oh Joe. There's only a handful of.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Teams that have the draft capitol and maybe some of
the players to.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Satisfy what about okay see you're honest. Okay see, I
don't like that match up with Shay. Do they have
the draft capitol? Absolutely, yes, they have the draft capitol.
Go get a Kevin the reant. I mean if somebody
else is available, they got the draft cap Yes, absolutely.
Look at the players they got, don't for me. I
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don't think they. I don't think they're breaking up their
nucleus Shay, Jalen Williams and home Ren. I'm not breaking
that up. There's a reason why Presty deliberately chose check
Holgren because they had an opportunity at Jabari Smith Junior,
and because Paulo bank Caro was gone. He was off
the board, so you didn't have no shot at him.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, young fella, young fellow like that. Yes, absolutely,
the thunder half the pieces. They got seven, eight first
round picks, seven eight second round picks. They got two
pickswaps still coming from the Clippers. Oh, they got the capitol.
Houston got the capitol. Brooklyn has the capitol. Because I
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just don't want draft picks. I want some I want
players that can come in and play and contribute and
can help me. Right now with y'all now, yeah, so, uh,
it's gonna be very interesting to see what Yanni's Maybe
they try to convince him one more year, but Yanni's
like one more year, that's a year older. I'm not closer.
I mean, when you look at it, Janni's by himself.
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They're not beaten. They're not beating the Knicks, they're not
beating the Calves, they're not beating Indiana. Now, they might
get a Boston run with our tatum next year, but
they still Okay, at best case scenario, they're the fourth
best team. I'm not so sure that the fourth best
team if ban Caro and Franz Wagner stay healthy with
that year where they get Sugs back with that with
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Black and and and and and uh Cole Anthony with
some of the pieces that they have, are we sure
are we sure Milwaukee is no better than a fourth
or fifth seed.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I ain't coming back one more year for to be
a fourth throor fifth seed.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But that that's that's that's what it would probably be.
Y'all can don't do this so much? Yes, you know,
you can only do so much for any boy yourself.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
What but how do you improve this team?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
People say, oh Joe, ain't Nobody say yeah, whoa man,
I'm gonna take this max deal from Milwaukee. I gotta
I get an opportunity to get a max deal from LA.
I get a max dealer from Chicago. I get a
max deal. I'm going to Milwaukee. Right, you're not.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
You're not. There's nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It's coldsh clothes at eleven, okay?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Ten?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Why am I gonna go get some meat after the game?
Kids ain't playing, kids ain't playing outside after September.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Can't be that bad.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
In Milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Yeah, I'm just saying it can't be. It's bad As
far as far as what.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, I've never been there. I've never experienced what
it's like to live there in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So what you think the weather is like from Wisconsin?
October November, December, January February March eight. So what do
you think the weather's like? You've played in Green Bayay,
So what you think the weather like in October, November, December, January, February, March.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But guess what think about some of the teams you
just named too? Hell, all them them same months in Chicago,
it's cold them same months.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
You just name it. In Chicago, it'ses open.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I can still go get a meal at ten o'clock
at night. We'll see, we shall see. Austin Reeve's agent
issues a warner. The mid trade rumors next year is
going to be a show. People really have no idea
what's to come. Keep putting him in trade rumors for
a second string center. Whoa who did you take a
(09:51):
shots at?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Uh? Whoever?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Keeps leaking his name talking about part of trade. They're
trading for a center. But he said second string string center.
They taking a shot.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Anybody that's not your kick Joel and Bead.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Those are really only centers. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Hey, Austin Reeves is nice too. Got you go anywhere
right now? And yes, getting worked getting buckets?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, but bro, you're gonna opt at you, Bro, You're
gonna opt at your contract. The Lakers can only play
you so much. You can go somewhere and get a
big payday anyway, You ain't trying to stay with the
Lakers when you get a two hundred million dollar deal
and they can't give you that, I know. Sure, Austin
is very grateful, very thankful. The Lakers believed in him,
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gave him a tryout. He went to the G League.
He played really well. He him and Lebron. Lebron saw
something in him early took him under his wings, and
he's flourished.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Kid.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
That's not kid, ourselves is finna get a bigger pay dad,
finna get a couple on a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Or as man's value.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
No, he's not. He knows, he knows his back. That's why.
That's why they just said what he's saying, because he
hopped out his contract.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Go get your money, young fellow.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Because see the.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Thing is like what they try to do. O yo,
if you sign with your team, they can give you
that fifth year you lead, they can only give you four. Yeah,
so there's like, okay, we can add an extra year.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
That's an extra fifty. You get nicked.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Hey, you're not playing your best, You're still a opt
in you got fifty coming right, he knows that he
knows back. Based on what he's done over the last
three years, as you've seen his point assist, the rebound
total go up, He's been a valuable option. I mean,
we saw him with he with no Luca in the
lineup here and Lebron with no Luca and Lebron to
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the lineup, what he did against Indiana. We've seen him
go out for forty, We've seen him go get thirty. Yeah,
he's improved every single year. He's a hell of a player.
But those three guys are not gonna win anything now
saying that you got a packaging but.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
They need a big.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And and he's the only he's the only valuable piece
that they have that they're willing to part with. They're
not trade Lucas. You can't trade Lebron because Lebron is
one of the two players that have a no trade
He and Bradley Bill. Everybody else, nobody else in the
NBA other than Lebron, James and Bradley Bell has a
no trade.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Now, when you say, you also say they need a
big now, Giannis is off the table on l A too,
because you.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, enough I don't think I mean he mentioned
La but I think he's talking about more Clippers than
than Lakers.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Ooh, hey, harden.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Kawhi, what you gonna give up because your picks?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Your picks belong to ok see.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
See that's right, that's right. As for him back and
then guess what we got pick swamps. So guess what.
But if some, for some for god unforeseen reason, you're
higher than we are, Hey, let's let's swap that thing.
You know what I'm saying, O Joe. Hey, you get
a nice burger. You get a good smash double smash
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burger with cheese, and I got a blogna sandwich. You
know what I want to swap lunches today it's my
time to swap. Okay, now you got the bologna sandwich.
I got the double cheese smash burger.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
See, but shit, y'all, and y'all is looking like y'all
is gonna be Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
It's hard, O Joe, it's hard.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Carrier got thought about what makes sense?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You you putting yourself right back in the same goddamn
predicament outside of it being a better goddamn city and
being able to get some to eat after eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But see that's the thing though. That's the thing, O Joe,
is that Austin Reeves understands his value. He knows he's
gonna be a commodity because he's proven he's a starter
in this league.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
He's not a role player.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean he's a role player, but he's a starting
role player, you know what I'm saying. He can handle
the ball, he can create his own shot, he can
he can facilitate it off.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
He can run an offense. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, he's a liability on defense, but gud I ain't
nobody to playing no defense anymore. Just don't let him
beat you on the first dribble. Can you can you
guard him for two dribbles? Then help's gonna come. So
with that being said, there's only a handful of teams
that have the capitol to go to go get Aych
Because you gotta think about it, O Joe, look at
what I'm giving up.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'm giving up a Giannis, I'm giving up a KD.
I need something valuable in return. Now KT's a little different.
KT's a little older, so he's not gonna command.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Phoenix is not gonna get Maybe what they think they're
gonna get Yeah, because there's a difference. I think Giannis
is thirty KD is about to be thirty seven. And
injury history. Remember he got nicked again at the end
of the year. He missed the last couple of games
when he got there, messed up his knees. So he
have a history of being injured. So you're not going
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to get what you because of aging his injury history.
He's still a phenomenal player. Very wow. Someone made to
check this out on Joe. I can't. I can't even
pronounce this guy's name.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
He said.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Zion Williamson is entering year seven with with zero playoff
minutes logged.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I just got sick.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Zion Williamson going to the Pelicans, understanding his injury history,
the fact that he hasn't been able to play.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Games even.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Make the playoffs, didn't have a team surrounding him or
or have the help to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, yeah, they made the playoffs, but he was hurt,
he couldn't play.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, they made the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, anybody even had he had b I balance schooners,
he had a CJ.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
McCullum.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
That was the second year right. I don't know what
year it was, but I'm saying he's they They've made
the playoffs. Zion just hadn't been able to play.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I think I think he he needed new change the senior.
He needed to change the senior.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
He needed to change the eatery, changing who eatery what's
important to him? Everybody wants something more than Zion wanted
for himself. Think about what he denied himself, probably going
out partying, doing all those other things that kids his
age did, because he wanted to be a basketball player,
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and he wanted to go to college, and in college,
he wanted to go to the NBA. So think about
what you've denied yourself to get to where you got to.
And now all of a sudden, now granted, when you young,
O Joe, you rubbing down the court, Oh your waight
just fall off you. Yeah, I mean I can lose.
I can lose easy.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Hell I lose.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I swear. I seven eight pounds at a practice. Once
lost thirteen pounds in a practice. You young, you can
do that. As you start to get older, you see
a lot of You see a lot of young fat people.
You don't see a lot of old fat people. O
jo because the heart's only so big. It's only meant
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to pump the side that you're supposed to be. You
start getting full, you start getting three and four hundred
pounds when you meant to be two hundred or two point.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Fifty from lack of the body.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, that's why you can't put a Volkswaggon engine and
an eighteen wheeler. It's not meant to pull that. You'll
burn it out. What's important is Onyon? How bad does
Ayon want to be?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
It? Do it? See? Get it?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Getting in is easy, that's the easy part, right, It
gets hard to get out and get back in. Ziona
is a phenomenal talent. Whenever you never gonna hear me
say anything about the guy's talent.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
He can do it. We can do it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Kendrick Perkins doesn't think Anthony Edwards can be the face
of the NBA. Perk said, you gotta check the boxes
when you're the face of the league. You know, we
gotta have a signature shoe, you gotta do big commercials,
you gotta have highlights, you gotta have a game. But
you know us, you gotta have gotta be a role
model and things outside the lines. Now if you go
down the list and check all the faces, you know,
you look at Bird Magic. I could have swear I
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don't got it. Said that last year, and everybody looked
at me. Oh y'all they killed me when they said tonil,
I said, this very same thing.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Are esp in and people?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I said, go back and look at the I said,
how many faces of the NBA weren't married?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
But anyway, let me finish on. You gonna look at
Larry Bird, Maggie Johnson, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaq Lebron Steph.
What did they all have in common? They were family
man and they were all mad with kids.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But see when I said it, because I'm a football player,
what do you know. I just followed the game. I've
been following the game a lot longer, playing a lot
closer attention. And when you go back and study the
guys that's been the face of the league, what are
they have in common? Why is it so easy for quarterbacks?
Look at the quarterbacks? Oh, Joe, go back and study
the quarterbacks have been face of the league. What do
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they all have in common? I told you, I told
you back and study the NBA player. Joe what do
they have in common? But see when I said it
and chat, y'all know I said it. Everybody, Steve when
ain't looked at me, Molly wanted to un just like, oh,
I'm like, oh my god, le Bron, I'm.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I'm saying, is just go study it. Go look at
the guys that's been in the face of the league.
So what I'm saying, what yall? What you think it is?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Hey, Joe, honestly, you know what I think it is.
I think it's an unwritten bove Joe. You you married, right, Joe?
But still you he got here, he married.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
He just ain't got the paperwork, but he married. But
go ahead, Oh hello, but.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
If you look, if you look at things are going
to your life, Joe, you understand God is you huh?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
For for some reason, things are always going right when
you have stability, when you have a foundation, the bill
on right. Hey, when you talk about the football players,
it ain't no goddamn coincidence. All the ones that are
married or engaged. You notice how life is going. I'm
not talking about off the field, how about off the field.
Everybody just name that's married. What Kendrick Perkins.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Said and you say, hey, let me put my guy
there and ring on.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Shoot.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But anyway, oh Joe, before you go in the father Yeah,
who what quarterback? Just got engaged last year about to
get married? He up in Buffalo? Oh, Josh, Josh Allen.
And what they are doing?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Patrick Mahoon? What the Patrick mahomes You.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Won't Joe man, it's not a coincidence on we not
only are they good at not only are they good
at their craft.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
But what did Tom Brady gonna do? Ojo? What did
Peyton Manny do? Ojo? L Way Marino go back and
study it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
The only guy, the only guy that you can definitively say,
And I don't know if he was ever to face
a lead with Jo name of at the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Hey, but Joe is a player. Joe is a player.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Roger Roger starback says, Hey, I just ad I'm just liked,
but I just like what I got one woman. Yeah,
Hey listen, So okay, I could see eliminating the distractions,
you know, things of that sort, But what is it?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
What is it? Joe?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You're not gonna be able to get that because the
people look at what did Tiger?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Look at what did tiger do. He went and got married,
didn't he? Yeah, what did tiger do? He went and
got married?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And when everything came because he sold family, He sold security.
That's what he sold. And when it didn't happen, everybody
was up in arms. It wasn't that each But it's
what you sold us. You sold us. It's called stability.
M that's what you're selling. That's stability. That's what a
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guy that got a guy that got a wife and
got kids. Now see, you might say, well, hey, I
know I saw him X, Y and Z, but the
general public might not ever see him. They see every
time he does an interview. He got his daughter, Steph Curry,
where Steph Curry was started going to the playoffs and
they going to the NBA. Tell about was sitting on
who's sitting on that desk? Who's right there beside it?
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When you doing his interview, little O'Riley or y'all remember that,
and his wife in the tunnel give him a kiss,
you see that?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah? He Hey, okay, o Joe, I don't think it
ain't too late for oh no, no, But I'm saying
he said he's at the tender. He's at the tender
age of twenty three, O Joe, Oh hey, he at
the ten days? He still got I keep getting add
only twenty three? Yes, and look did he didn't? He
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dine took his his lumps and bruises throughout you know
the NBA seasons, the postseasons.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
He's been through. He's been through some wars. Yes, you
know his time of company. They've played great basketball. But yeah,
who they're talking about?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Hold on, oh Joe? Who they talk about being the face?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Tell the people at home, oh Joe, SGA Tell him
what his status is? Is he checking the single bark?
Who he's checking the married box? Tell him which one
he's checking?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
On?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Joe? He married? Absolutely? He is years Absolutely, I ain't
know that. I ain't know that. What about nicolea yo kitchen?
Is he borried? You married too? What about Luca? Is
he bad? Everybody?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Hey, I'm going I'm wireless. I'm going to give me
some stability.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Look at Lebron, but O Joe, he's ready to jump
that broom. Why ain't playing? Boy? Jay Harry? What day?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Matter of fact, I'm getting on my birthday? Birthday every ninth,
nineteen sixty eight, that's the same that same birthday my
son I saw at eighteen, just graduated high school this year. Yeah, Exacuary,
that's my dog about that. I have my birthday dog.
I say, what's having?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Man?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I tell him, But I got to watch Y'ALLU though, boy,
y'all sneaking at the.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, whoa, whoa what you do a?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Capit corn list? I hope I listen.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Signs don't don't really identify everybody that's born in that month.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
That really, that's really not having.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm not saying all of it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Pertains all got a think. So there we go, There
we go, there we go. No, because I listen, I don't.
I don't. I'm not into signs. I don't know much
about signs. You know.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I hear from time to time and you meet people,
but I get along with everybody. Everybody loves me regardless
of what sign they are. So yeah, I don't understand.
I'm I'm nothing like what they say forms of life.
I'm a good dude, and I'm just looking for ability
saying you're a bad dude.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Okay, okay, I think you Yeah, yeah, I'm a good naw,
I'm a good dude.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I'm good, dude.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, we gotta watch you. Then I'm like a hawk.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But I know a guy said this, and I listed
all the guys, A lot of the guys that Perk named.
I listed those guys. That's what happens when you met
a football guy talk about basketball. Now there's a basketball guy.
See they are looking Obviously it touched the nerve. I'll
just go back and look at the face of the
NBA and tell me and tell me what they were.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Take football aside. Tell me what the guy he tell
me the guy that's been the face of the NBA
that did not.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Show a display stability, tell me the guy.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Hey, I'm with you when you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Hey, do you think you think Anthony Edwards could be
the first one to change that?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Boy?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Hey, there's family value, there's morals, and some people just
don't cut it. I mean it's different, it's different. Yeah, yeah,
But they say the problem is a lot of people.
They said, Hey, they're trying to destroy the new clear
the family nuclear I mean.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Listen, everyone operates at a different frequency.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Everybody. Hey, you can operate that. You just can't be
the basic the NBA. You can operate that, Okay, Yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You're right, And I think that's a large part of
why he doesn't Because he doesn't. I don't want to
do that. I still want to go to my little
dives hole in the wall. Y'all don't see me. I
got my shades on and took them to cut I
don't want all that. I don't want all of that
that comes along with being because now you got people.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Now you got people really out there trying to you
in your business, trying.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
To lift the covers up so they can show the
world what you're really doing and then let the cover
fall back down on it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
In him only and only being twenty.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Three, you have to move twenty three, hey, hold on, and.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You got to move completely different, Yes different, once you
crossed that line open the marriage in the having stability,
and you have to at that age, with that kind
of money, you're.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Going to know and most of and most of the
gut live in Atlanta too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And the problem and the thing is a lot of
these guys lebron K new Savannah since they were fourteen,
Steph knew Aisha when they were teenagers, Magic new Cookie,
Steph met excuse me not, Steph Kobe met Vanessa, his
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first the second year in the NBA. He's nineteen early
eighteen nineteen. She's a senior in high school or junior
high school. A man is twenty three. You gotta realize
Kobe's nineteen and man is twenty three. He meets somebody's like, Okay,
this is it for me? Hey, I met mine?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, Hollo up magic with Dayton, Cookie and car Yeah.
M So it's a different time now. If and it's hard,
it's getting harder and harder today. They and these are
this because you don't know, Yeah, but I don't me
looking at it from a distance and studying the NBA
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like I have, and looking at faces of the NBA.
Go back and look at the guys that the that
was the face of the NBA, and look at this
their home situation.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Now, ay, Joe, I want you to watch uh right, see.
I want you to pay attention to people in the chat.
I want you to pay attention to the difference in.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Our cups.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
All our cups are running over right now, everything is
going good, everything is going smooth.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Now. I want you to I want you to.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
See how life changes for your boy in twenty twenty six,
when it crossed that room, hear me, Yeah, yeah, I
want you. I want you to see how life changes
for me. Now, what I want you to do is
I want you to pay attention.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Now.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Remember I told you this.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You told you, Hey, it's a is May twenty seven, Yes,
twenty five. When I jump that room after my birthday,
I want you to see how light changes exponentially.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
And I want you to follow suit right behind me.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, yeah, God Dad, he gonna gonna here, gonna drop
no matter fact, we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Jump the plain time.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Hey, o Joe, it's time for him to put it up.
He got that plight up. Yeah, because listen, we need
to listen. We need to be We're gonna we gonna
be on the right track. Okay, you're gonna do on
the right track. So I'm I'm gonna go ahead and
take the lead. I'm gonna start it off. It's gonna
be like Dodgeball. I don't like Yeah, Ship, you got
(29:39):
time to play way Ship.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Johns Barkley also chimed in on the face of the league. Hey, ESPN,
I love you guys. Don't try to make ad man,
he said Anthony edwas, but don't like don't. Don't try
to make Anthony Edwards the face of the NBA. There's
the face of the NBA. It's Shay Gilgers, it's Nicola Jokic.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
It's honest.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You can't give it to people. They have to take
it at s GA is taking.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
It right now? Yeah, ye what that means.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And look once somebody tells you so, I mean and
man told him that that's not what I want. Yeah, right,
And it's like the more the more he says he
doesn't want it, the more people try to bestore the
pun it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
But you know why, you know why, it has nothing
to do with you know, forget I'm not obviously people
are gonna say, oh, look how he's playing. Now, Listen,
he has this as good as he has first levels,
he has careers, but he has charms.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
You have, Yes, as good as x Y he is,
he still doesn't have that it factor that Ann has.
He just doesn't as great as he is Joe, He's
I just think it's.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Hard for for I, a foreign born player, to be
the face of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I just do.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You think you think you know where you think that
has anything to do with it? You think no, a
little bit smidge.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
He'll be the same thing. You think.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Do you think an American born player can be the
face of football European football soccer?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, oh that's impossible.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
You would have to be a see that that would
that would that would be damn near impossible.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
But I mean, no disrespect impossible.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Let's get my m manet get a man a little time. Yeah,
he's still at attended age.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, twenty three, he's a man. Man. It ain't no.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And it takes a special type of something because both
because you got to go back and you go back
and think like Magic was twenty when.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
He came into the league. You want to he won
the championship, burned all those other guys.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But normally, you know, guys were guys were twenty two
to twenty three when they was getting to the league.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
O joe.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, and so now guys are won and done. You
asking an eighteen ain't no eighteen year old about to
getting married nineteen year old. Hey, look, because you live
in the American dream. This is something that you've dreamed
about since you was a kid. Now that you get
to this point, especially at a young young age, nineteen twenty, man,
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you ain't trying to be tied down.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You're trying to go have you.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Got you gotta be mentally you have to be mentally prepared.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
You got to be ready for that because it's it's
or Oh.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I think you gotta come from like you gotta have
parents that were married. You have to be I think
I think if you was raised in the household and
your parents have been married, I think it's a lot
easier because look, okay, oh Joe, all my partners I
grew up with, man, Listen, they all married, but they
are all their parents.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
They've all been married since we were kidds.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Bro I'm the only one grew up in a single
parent household, you know what I'm saying. But my closest homeboys,
my closest homeboys, they married, Joe.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It also come down to actually finding someone actually you
can and married. Though there's a difference, it's not we
ain't talk about just aesthetics, you know, I'm talking about
someone of substance outside of just looks. So actually finding
someone to marry is is that's the difficult. That's also difficult.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I hear.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I come from I come from a where a one
pairent you know, household.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I didn't do things the traditional way, but I do
actually value marriage and want that. I want that stability,
especially at my at at old age, after being out
for a young you know, Joe, after being out in
the streets for so long and understanding what's out there,
won't that I'm here. There's nothing wrong with that, But
it's an investment when you get no return. I don't
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care how much you spend it, and I don't care
who you spent it on. It looks good, sesthetically pleasing.
It's good to be able to be someone sponsored for
a while, but it gets you nothing in return.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Of course, has started this week about how this Thunder
team could be even scarier. No matter what's happening this
playoff Thunder will be adding Serbian star Dakola You'll Pitch
to its rotation next season. You'll Pitch was the number
twelve pick in the twenty twenty four NBA Draft. It
picked that OKC got from Houston in the twenty nineteen
Westbrook trade. But Yo Picch had a torn acl and
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would miss his entire rookie season, and that scared the
way most teams except Okay see before the injury, the
sixty You'll Pitch would view it as a top five
prospect as a playmaking point guard. CBS sports Mark Draft
had him as high as number two at one point.
Next season, he'll finally make his NBA debut. Man, Okay,
(34:38):
see got a lot over there, Okay with cha. I
don't know how they gonna keep all them guys. Yeah,
because you know, hey, they got that now. Because you
know what, Chcong can sign four for two ninety four
or you can wait five for three eighty.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Jaylen Williams is gonna want to get paid. Ches's gonna
want to get paid.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I mean, I like this guy because now you got
somebody that's gonna handle the ball. And when Shad's on
the bench, if he's what what they say to us, well,
you know see, but uh it's gonna be It gets hard, man,
It gets hard, o Joe, because when you start winning,
people come and start raiding your handhouse. They want to
they want they want your chicken that's been laying these
golden eggs. And that's that's and that's what happens. If
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you see it in football all the time, you see
what happened. Uh, Eventually, Philly's not gonna be able to
keep all these guys, those great defensive players. Now you
play Jais, you play Jalen Carter. What you're gonna do
with Jordan Davis, What you're gonna do. What you're gonna
do Cooper de John? What you're gonna do with Brother Mitchell? What'
you're gonna do with THEO?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
OKAYO. When you winning, everybody, everybody eats. So you have
to go into the luxury tax. Got to take care
of these guys. Just like in Boston would have won
this year, man, they wouldn't have been they wouldn't have
cared about paying those dudes. Uh, then they gonna break
that thing up, Joe. Now they y'all yeah, now, but
I think even the bands know that. Think they break
it up because you got to. You got to think
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about it. You got two guys make it over three
hundred million, You got think about it. You got Derrick
White and you got Holiday making well over one hundred million.
You got Al Horford probably making thirty five to thirty
eight million, and you got Prezingers.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I think I think if they if they had a
chance to win it this year off, I think they
willing to go into the luxury tax and pay that
it's just like, Okay, see if they win it this year,
they're gonna have to go into the luxury tax and
they got to pay them. But I heard the thing,
and see because I'm looking at the Lakers. The Lakers
had the same situation they wanted in twenty twenty and
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broke the whole thing up.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
You don't know what that was about it. I don't
know right y'all. Don't know what that was about. They had.
They had a great team. I know it was in
the bubble, but they had a great team, Reagan. Just
to see if you can repeat, I think you so.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
It makes you wonder like was it something more to
it than just basketball?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
You know what I mean? Well, never know.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Carmelo Anthony and PG Paul George aren't convinced that Jannis
will ask to be traded from Milwaukee, despite the rumor
surrounding his uncertain future with the organization. Giannis is that
old cut era, that that old era cut. I think
he wants to stay in Milwaukee's whole career. That's what
PG said. He ain't going nowhere. Janni's built Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
No, absolutely, not that that matters, that matters, Not that matters,
Not I understand PG and Carmelo obviously very respectable, good
for good friends of mine. But honest, he's not going back.
He is gonna be the same thing every year. The
man wants to win, the man wants to contend for
another title again.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
No, he doesn't want to. He didn't want to lift the.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Heavy load every single night, every single.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
He's for the way now than what he was when
he won his title. Yeah. Absolutely, That's why I'll say him.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Going problem that you're up against is that guess what
you see all they got What if Shae gets on
this year, Tatum already got one. I mean, you're not
worried about Steph and Lebron and Katie because they've already
done the the you know, next couple of years they're
gonna be on their way out.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
But what about.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Okay, see, he ain't going nowhere, at least for the
next year or two. How do if we talked about
this last night, Joe, let's just say they break it back.
Dame's not playing next year. So even if he goes
back to Milwaukee, they're not better than the Knicks. They're
not better than the Cavaliers, They're not better than the Pacers.
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And I'm not so sure is that they can beat
Boston with the roster that they have with just Giannis.
So now at best case scenario, Oh if Orlando, if
Ben Carro and from Bardner stay healthy, they're not.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Better than them. So if best case scenario, you fifth
or sixth.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Hey, look, I think I think Janni's will always say
the right yes because he don't. Look, he don't want
that blowback everybody, Joe's since they saw what happened with Lebron,
everybody that y'all want to be here. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
because at least Lebron played his contract out.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
See, Lebron is one of those guys. He never asked
to be.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Traded, but he play his contract out, and people hold
him to the same stand of the guys that be
asking for trades. Lebron is never asked to be traded
in the contract out his Ton contract was up in Cleveland,
he went to Miami.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Contract was up in Miami, He went back to Cleveland.
Contract was up in Cleveland, he went to LA.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So you got to think about it. Lebron is damn
there as much time in LA as he did his
last stint in Cleveland, and he went well, went to Miami,
right Yeah, hey, Love, I can see young. I don't
know how he gonna do it, but I just see
Yanna moving this summer. Okay, hold Joe, I can't see
him coming going back to Milwaukee trying to do all
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the heavy lifting by itself. It's gonna be tough. It's
gonna be challenging because they can't bring nobody in help
outside of what they already have.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
They can't bring nobody and then say best players injured.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
But can you imagine if you're honest, gets traded to
a team to all I say, the Mavericks or the
Rockets or you know whatever, make a run for oh Man,
can you imagine like he gonna have to still do
some heavy lifting, but it ain't gonna be nothing like that.
(40:38):
It ain't gonna have a whole lot of heavy lifted
if he got step on this team.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I asked you that last night.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You know where where is the scenarios where he could go,
where the situation would be different than what it is
with Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Right now, well, you gotta break First of all, Steph
is healthy, Dame is not.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
They play different types again.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Stephani's perpetual motion, He's gonna get a lot of wide
open looks because you gotta you, you gotta build a
wall to keep Gianni's out the paint. And then when
Yanni's kicked because you saw the average six and sis,
he's getting better as a passer. So the thing is
he's just gonna have to get a lot of teams
because teams going straight up, they're only a handful of
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teams that could. Okay, see Brooklyn Houston Rockets. They're really
the only team to have the draft capitol. Houston have
the draft capitol and the players because you're ready to
you could pack a shingoon. Uh huh oh the Spurs,
you have to. Spurs definitely have the capitol. So there's
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the only a handful of team to have the draft
capitol and players.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Huh, that's not fair.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
You can't put wimby and got them.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Jannis to the other man.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
A life, Come on, man, yeah, life ain't fair.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You put them on a team and listen, you're gonna
be number ethans for chauffeur.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
What yeah, hey, what what pick? What picked? The Spurs got?
What the pick?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Spurs that got the two s Furs got the number
two pick, So you get a big dime draft. They
got plenty of other draft picks. I don't know if
they're gonna be willing to part with. Obviously Stephen Castle
and uh Wimby I.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Would think would be, but anything else.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I mean, you got Fox, you're gonna have to You're
probably gonna have to get off Castle. Okay, okay, if
you got Fox, yeah, yeah, you got Fox with better
so you got five, got Wimby, Yiannis? Yeah you sure,
Old Joe Man wait, Darien Fox, yeah, Darren fo Yeah, No,
that's not fair.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I ain't.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Because men walk. You're gonna want some stop power. And
then by Castle, he's proven. You know, he just won
Rookie of the Year. So they gonna want they gonna
want some They gonna want somebody, and I want to
proven player. I want a couple of proven players. I
might take Vassal and there Caldon Johnson too, and I
want that number pick and a couple of other picks
and some pick spots.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Hey for Gianni's his worth? Yeah, because let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I think if he plays with some some other great talent,
he will be more of a willing passer versus you know,
I know he'll still be downhill, but I think he'll
be more reluctant, you know. I think he'll pass a
lot more versus just driving in there, you know, just
trying to get files and things of that sort.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Uh, he's a cheat, cole Man. He's a cheat cold
for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
The volume
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Milwaukee Bucks are reportedly hoping that the presidence of
Doc Rivers will make Giannis after to Kunpo more likely
to stay in Milwaukee. Per Mark Stein's the Bucks are
hoping that the presidence of Doc as a coach can
provide some sort of boost at the Koonpoin and Rivers
are believed to have a strong working relationship.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You know, we're not staying. I mean, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
So he had a terripling, So Jason Kidds gone, Mike
Budenholders gone, who won? He was there when he got
them two MVP's and they got a finals MVP that
won a championship. Adrian Griffin was fired after going forty
what forty one and thirteen?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Got Doc?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So I'm just trying to figure out and I'm just
trying to figure out how what am I mixing?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
What? What is it?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
What is it that they see that we don't listen?
The man doesn't want to be there. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what why they're.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I don't know Joe, I don't know if he doesn't
want to be there or if he doesn't believe that
they can win there, he can win there.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You're not going to be able to There's nothing you're
gonna be able to do. Bringing in Doc Rivers isn't
going to get you a chance at contention.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
For it will be able to get you any more
players because you can't sign anything and you want to
stay out of that second apron bingo.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So that mean that goes without saying, I don't know,
traded holiday.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You traded the holiday and gave up draft picks to
get Dame and out.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Dame is out.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I think maybe his decision making would be a little
different if Dame wasn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
No, you don't think so. No, because they didn't get
to the Eastern Conference finals in the year that Dane
was there. And there there are some times that they
play really good, but it's kind of hard because you know,
and you think Giannis needs the ball to clear and
and and Dame likes to have the ball to do
what he does. Sometimes it looks good, but more times
than not, it's just like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He doesn't want to be there. I hate to regurgitate
it and say it again. I told you where Yiannis
is going, I told you how that's gonna go.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well I'm not I'm not saying I don't I disagree
with you, But what I am saying, what are you
gonna give up about? I just don't see a scenario
where you keep Bam and Tyler hero and still be
able to get Yannest.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Funny thing about it is we never know the scenario.
That's up to the team, that's up to all the teams.
Let me say it like this, up to all the
teams involved.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You know, he's.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Getten and answers where he liked to be, where he
liked to play, sublimately by answer questions on Twitter. I
mean the proof is in the putting is right there.
I mean everyone's going to have these expert opinions on
where he should go.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, that's how you put tray scenarios together. Okay, and
you the Flakers, you know off limits. You know you're
not getting Lebron and you're not getting Luca. So now
you start playing with pieces. Okay, if ar avail available
is ruined available, you start playing with pieces who could
possibly leave and who could possibly come.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So, with that being said, that's the only way you
can put a tracer there. You're talking about you gotta
do hypotheticals. You know, the Uh, I'm just trying to see.
I'm looking at the pieces that would Miami have. They
only got two pieces I would want. Why would y'allnys
want to go to the Miami and and and bam
and Tyler Hero isn't there.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It's the same thing that happened with Carmelo when he
went to the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Nobody there?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
You got them?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, where you think about it, What the hell's would
he go? Where the hell's where the hell else where
Yanni's go right now? Where they're gonna have to give
up something for him to even get him and still
not be right back in the.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Same type of situation you were in in Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I think the thing is, Ojo, you're gonna have to
get multiple teams involved, but you're gonna have to satisfy
Milwaukee Milwaukee Joanna. Think about it, o Jo, you lost Kareem.
How long before you got something to replace Kareem? Your
second best player in franchise history, Janni's. I think he's
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the second best because Kareem won three titles with the
two en you got there, I will will't even three.
I mean, you need to look up Kareem's stats because
everybody that think Kareem was a bum.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Y'all need to look at Kareem before he got old.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Because like in the eighties, he still won finals MVP
at like thirty seven, thirty eight years of age. But
you got to go back and look at him when
he from his from his rookie year until he was
about thirty. Go check him out, Go check out his stats,
and let me know what you think. With that being said, Uh,
Louis Joannis a superstar. See that's what that for the
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longest time, that's what really hurt. Okay, See because see
Kevin Durant was a free agent and he left. Imagine
what you could have got for Kevin Durant if you
did a sign in trade. So now you and it's
absolute prime, well hell before his prime.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
But now so now you get a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I mean, you're gonna get draft out the galore and a
couple of solid players.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
That's what you would have gotten. But he left.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
You got nothing walkside the door. Same thing of gold
to state he walked out the door.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So when I think about teams with draft capital.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Brooklyn got draft capital, Houston got draft capital and players.
Because you got Shingoon, I'm not getting rid of arm
and Thompson. Armond Thompson is not going anywhere, right, So
you got capital. Uh, you got Jabari Smith Junior, you
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got Eason. So they got capital and they got draft picks.
See that's the thing, oh Joe. There's only a handful of.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Teams that have the draft capitol and maybe some of
the players to.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Satisfy what about okay see you're honest. Okay see, I
don't like that match up with Shay. Do they have
the draft capitol? Absolutely, yes, they have the draft capitol.
Go get a Kevin the reant. I mean if somebody
else is available, they got the draft cap Yes, absolutely.
Look at the players they got, don't for me. I
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don't think they. I don't think they're breaking up their
nucleus Shay, Jalen Williams and home Ren. I'm not breaking
that up. There's a reason why Presty deliberately chose check
Holgren because they had an opportunity at Jabari Smith Junior,
and because Paulo bank Caro was gone. He was off
the board, so you didn't have no shot at him.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, young fella, young fellow like that. Yes, absolutely,
the thunder half the pieces. They got seven, eight first
round picks, seven eight second round picks. They got two
pickswaps still coming from the Clippers. Oh, they got the capitol.
Houston got the capitol. Brooklyn has the capitol. Because I
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just don't want draft picks. I want some I want
players that can come in and play and contribute and
can help me. Right now with y'all now, yeah, so, uh,
it's gonna be very interesting to see what Yanni's Maybe
they try to convince him one more year, but Yanni's
like one more year, that's a year older. I'm not closer.
I mean, when you look at it, Janni's by himself.
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They're not beaten. They're not beating the Knicks, they're not
beating the Calves, they're not beating Indiana. Now, they might
get a Boston run with our tatum next year, but
they still Okay, at best case scenario, they're the fourth
best team. I'm not so sure that the fourth best
team if ban Caro and Franz Wagner stay healthy with
that year where they get Sugs back with that with
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Black and and and and and uh Cole Anthony with
some of the pieces that they have, are we sure
are we sure Milwaukee is no better than a fourth
or fifth seed.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I ain't coming back one more year for to be
a fourth throor fifth seed.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But that that's that's that's what it would probably be.
Y'all can don't do this so much? Yes, you know,
you can only do so much for any boy yourself.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
What but how do you improve this team?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
People say, oh Joe, ain't Nobody say yeah, whoa man,
I'm gonna take this max deal from Milwaukee. I gotta
I get an opportunity to get a max deal from LA.
I get a max dealer from Chicago. I get a
max deal. I'm going to Milwaukee. Right, you're not.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
You're not. There's nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It's coldsh clothes at eleven, okay?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Ten?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Why am I gonna go get some meat after the game?
Kids ain't playing, kids ain't playing outside after September.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Can't be that bad.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
In Milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Yeah, I'm just saying it can't be. It's bad As
far as far as what.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, I've never been there. I've never experienced what
it's like to live there in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So what you think the weather is like from Wisconsin?
October November, December, January February March eight. So what do
you think the weather's like? You've played in Green Bayay,
So what you think the weather like in October, November, December, January, February, March.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But guess what think about some of the teams you
just named too? Hell, all them them same months in Chicago,
it's cold them same months.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
You just name it. In Chicago, it'ses open.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I can still go get a meal at ten o'clock
at night. We'll see, we shall see. Austin Reeve's agent
issues a warner. The mid trade rumors next year is
going to be a show. People really have no idea
what's to come. Keep putting him in trade rumors for
a second string center. Whoa who did you take a
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shots at?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Uh? Whoever?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Keeps leaking his name talking about part of trade. They're
trading for a center. But he said second string string center.
They taking a shot.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Anybody that's not your kick Joel and Bead.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Those are really only centers. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Hey, Austin Reeves is nice too. Got you go anywhere
right now? And yes, getting worked getting buckets?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, but bro, you're gonna opt at you, Bro, You're
gonna opt at your contract. The Lakers can only play
you so much. You can go somewhere and get a
big payday anyway, You ain't trying to stay with the
Lakers when you get a two hundred million dollar deal
and they can't give you that, I know. Sure, Austin
is very grateful, very thankful. The Lakers believed in him,
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gave him a tryout. He went to the G League.
He played really well. He him and Lebron. Lebron saw
something in him early took him under his wings, and
he's flourished.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Kid.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
That's not kid, ourselves is finna get a bigger pay dad,
finna get a couple on a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Or as man's value.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
No, he's not. He knows, he knows his back. That's why.
That's why they just said what he's saying, because he
hopped out his contract.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Go get your money, young fellow.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Because see the.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Thing is like what they try to do. O yo,
if you sign with your team, they can give you
that fifth year you lead, they can only give you four. Yeah,
so there's like, okay, we can add an extra year.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
That's an extra fifty. You get nicked.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Hey, you're not playing your best, You're still a opt
in you got fifty coming right, he knows that he
knows back. Based on what he's done over the last
three years, as you've seen his point assist, the rebound
total go up, He's been a valuable option. I mean,
we saw him with he with no Luca in the
lineup here and Lebron with no Luca and Lebron to
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the lineup, what he did against Indiana. We've seen him
go out for forty, We've seen him go get thirty. Yeah,
he's improved every single year. He's a hell of a player.
But those three guys are not gonna win anything now
saying that you got a packaging but.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
They need a big.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And and he's the only he's the only valuable piece
that they have that they're willing to part with. They're
not trade Lucas. You can't trade Lebron because Lebron is
one of the two players that have a no trade
He and Bradley Bill. Everybody else, nobody else in the
NBA other than Lebron, James and Bradley Bell has a
no trade.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Now, when you say, you also say they need a
big now, Giannis is off the table on l A too,
because you.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, enough I don't think I mean he mentioned
La but I think he's talking about more Clippers than
than Lakers.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Ooh, hey, harden.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Kawhi, what you gonna give up because your picks?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Your picks belong to ok see.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
See that's right, that's right. As for him back and
then guess what we got pick swamps. So guess what.
But if some, for some for god unforeseen reason, you're
higher than we are, Hey, let's let's swap that thing.
You know what I'm saying, O Joe. Hey, you get
a nice burger. You get a good smash double smash
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burger with cheese, and I got a blogna sandwich. You
know what I want to swap lunches today it's my
time to swap. Okay, now you got the bologna sandwich.
I got the double cheese smash burger.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
See, but shit, y'all, and y'all is looking like y'all
is gonna be Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
It's hard, O Joe, it's hard.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Carrier got thought about what makes sense?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You you putting yourself right back in the same goddamn
predicament outside of it being a better goddamn city and
being able to get some to eat after eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But see that's the thing though. That's the thing, O Joe,
is that Austin Reeves understands his value. He knows he's
gonna be a commodity because he's proven he's a starter
in this league.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
He's not a role player.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean he's a role player, but he's a starting
role player, you know what I'm saying. He can handle
the ball, he can create his own shot, he can
he can facilitate it off.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
He can run an offense. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, he's a liability on defense, but gud I ain't
nobody to playing no defense anymore. Just don't let him
beat you on the first dribble. Can you can you
guard him for two dribbles? Then help's gonna come. So
with that being said, there's only a handful of teams
that have the capitol to go to go get Aych
Because you gotta think about it, O Joe, look at
what I'm giving up.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'm giving up a Giannis, I'm giving up a KD.
I need something valuable in return. Now KT's a little different.
KT's a little older, so he's not gonna command.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Phoenix is not gonna get Maybe what they think they're
gonna get Yeah, because there's a difference. I think Giannis
is thirty KD is about to be thirty seven. And
injury history. Remember he got nicked again at the end
of the year. He missed the last couple of games
when he got there, messed up his knees. So he
have a history of being injured. So you're not going
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to get what you because of aging his injury history.
He's still a phenomenal player. Very wow. Someone made to
check this out on Joe. I can't. I can't even
pronounce this guy's name.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
He said.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Zion Williamson is entering year seven with with zero playoff
minutes logged.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I just got sick.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Zion Williamson going to the Pelicans, understanding his injury history,
the fact that he hasn't been able to play.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Games even.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Make the playoffs, didn't have a team surrounding him or
or have the help to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, yeah, they made the playoffs, but he was hurt,
he couldn't play.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, they made the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, anybody even had he had b I balance schooners,
he had a CJ.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
McCullum.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
That was the second year right. I don't know what
year it was, but I'm saying he's they They've made
the playoffs. Zion just hadn't been able to play.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I think I think he he needed new change the senior.
He needed to change the senior.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
He needed to change the eatery, changing who eatery what's
important to him? Everybody wants something more than Zion wanted
for himself. Think about what he denied himself, probably going
out partying, doing all those other things that kids his
age did, because he wanted to be a basketball player,
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and he wanted to go to college, and in college,
he wanted to go to the NBA. So think about
what you've denied yourself to get to where you got to.
And now all of a sudden, now granted, when you young,
O Joe, you rubbing down the court, Oh your waight
just fall off you. Yeah, I mean I can lose.
I can lose easy.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Hell I lose.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I swear. I seven eight pounds at a practice. Once
lost thirteen pounds in a practice. You young, you can
do that. As you start to get older, you see
a lot of You see a lot of young fat people.
You don't see a lot of old fat people. O
jo because the heart's only so big. It's only meant
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to pump the side that you're supposed to be. You
start getting full, you start getting three and four hundred
pounds when you meant to be two hundred or two point.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Fifty from lack of the body.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, that's why you can't put a Volkswaggon engine and
an eighteen wheeler. It's not meant to pull that. You'll
burn it out. What's important is Onyon? How bad does
Ayon want to be?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
It? Do it? See? Get it?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Getting in is easy, that's the easy part, right, It
gets hard to get out and get back in. Ziona
is a phenomenal talent. Whenever you never gonna hear me
say anything about the guy's talent.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
He can do it. We can do it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Kendrick Perkins doesn't think Anthony Edwards can be the face
of the NBA. Perk said, you gotta check the boxes
when you're the face of the league. You know, we
gotta have a signature shoe, you gotta do big commercials,
you gotta have highlights, you gotta have a game. But
you know us, you gotta have gotta be a role
model and things outside the lines. Now if you go
down the list and check all the faces, you know,
you look at Bird Magic. I could have swear I
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don't got it. Said that last year, and everybody looked
at me. Oh y'all they killed me when they said tonil,
I said, this very same thing.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Are esp in and people?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I said, go back and look at the I said,
how many faces of the NBA weren't married?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
But anyway, let me finish on. You gonna look at
Larry Bird, Maggie Johnson, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaq Lebron Steph.
What did they all have in common? They were family
man and they were all mad with kids.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But see when I said it, because I'm a football player,
what do you know. I just followed the game. I've
been following the game a lot longer, playing a lot
closer attention. And when you go back and study the
guys that's been the face of the league, what are
they have in common? Why is it so easy for quarterbacks?
Look at the quarterbacks? Oh, Joe, go back and study
the quarterbacks have been face of the league. What do
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they all have in common? I told you, I told
you back and study the NBA player. Joe what do
they have in common? But see when I said it
and chat, y'all know I said it. Everybody, Steve when
ain't looked at me, Molly wanted to un just like, oh,
I'm like, oh my god, le Bron, I'm.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I'm saying, is just go study it. Go look at
the guys that's been in the face of the league.
So what I'm saying, what yall? What you think it is?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Hey, Joe, honestly, you know what I think it is.
I think it's an unwritten bove Joe. You you married, right, Joe?
But still you he got here, he married.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
He just ain't got the paperwork, but he married. But
go ahead, Oh hello, but.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
If you look, if you look at things are going
to your life, Joe, you understand God is you huh?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
For for some reason, things are always going right when
you have stability, when you have a foundation, the bill
on right. Hey, when you talk about the football players,
it ain't no goddamn coincidence. All the ones that are
married or engaged. You notice how life is going. I'm
not talking about off the field, how about off the field.
Everybody just name that's married. What Kendrick Perkins.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Said and you say, hey, let me put my guy
there and ring on.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Shoot.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But anyway, oh Joe, before you go in the father Yeah,
who what quarterback? Just got engaged last year about to
get married? He up in Buffalo? Oh, Josh, Josh Allen.
And what they are doing?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Patrick Mahoon? What the Patrick mahomes You.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Won't Joe man, it's not a coincidence on we not
only are they good at not only are they good
at their craft.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
But what did Tom Brady gonna do? Ojo? What did
Peyton Manny do? Ojo? L Way Marino go back and
study it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
The only guy, the only guy that you can definitively say,
And I don't know if he was ever to face
a lead with Jo name of at the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Hey, but Joe is a player. Joe is a player.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Roger Roger starback says, Hey, I just ad I'm just liked,
but I just like what I got one woman. Yeah,
Hey listen, So okay, I could see eliminating the distractions,
you know, things of that sort, But what is it?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
What is it? Joe?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You're not gonna be able to get that because the
people look at what did Tiger?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Look at what did tiger do. He went and got married,
didn't he? Yeah, what did tiger do? He went and
got married?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And when everything came because he sold family, He sold security.
That's what he sold. And when it didn't happen, everybody
was up in arms. It wasn't that each But it's
what you sold us. You sold us. It's called stability.
M that's what you're selling. That's stability. That's what a
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guy that got a guy that got a wife and
got kids. Now see, you might say, well, hey, I
know I saw him X, Y and Z, but the
general public might not ever see him. They see every
time he does an interview. He got his daughter, Steph Curry,
where Steph Curry was started going to the playoffs and
they going to the NBA. Tell about was sitting on
who's sitting on that desk? Who's right there beside it?
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When you doing his interview, little O'Riley or y'all remember that,
and his wife in the tunnel give him a kiss,
you see that?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah? He Hey, okay, o Joe, I don't think it
ain't too late for oh no, no, But I'm saying
he said he's at the tender. He's at the tender
age of twenty three, O Joe, Oh hey, he at
the ten days? He still got I keep getting add
only twenty three? Yes, and look did he didn't? He
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dine took his his lumps and bruises throughout you know
the NBA seasons, the postseasons.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
He's been through. He's been through some wars. Yes, you
know his time of company. They've played great basketball. But yeah,
who they're talking about?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Hold on, oh Joe? Who they talk about being the face?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Tell the people at home, oh Joe, SGA Tell him
what his status is? Is he checking the single bark?
Who he's checking the married box? Tell him which one
he's checking?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
On?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Joe? He married? Absolutely? He is years Absolutely, I ain't
know that. I ain't know that. What about nicolea yo kitchen?
Is he borried? You married too? What about Luca? Is
he bad? Everybody?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Hey, I'm going I'm wireless. I'm going to give me
some stability.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Look at Lebron, but O Joe, he's ready to jump
that broom. Why ain't playing? Boy? Jay Harry? What day?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Matter of fact, I'm getting on my birthday? Birthday every ninth,
nineteen sixty eight, that's the same that same birthday my
son I saw at eighteen, just graduated high school this year. Yeah, Exacuary,
that's my dog about that. I have my birthday dog.
I say, what's having?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Man?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I tell him, But I got to watch Y'ALLU though, boy,
y'all sneaking at the.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, whoa, whoa what you do a?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Capit corn list? I hope I listen.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Signs don't don't really identify everybody that's born in that month.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
That really, that's really not having.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm not saying all of it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Pertains all got a think. So there we go, There
we go, there we go. No, because I listen, I don't.
I don't. I'm not into signs. I don't know much
about signs. You know.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I hear from time to time and you meet people,
but I get along with everybody. Everybody loves me regardless
of what sign they are. So yeah, I don't understand.
I'm I'm nothing like what they say forms of life.
I'm a good dude, and I'm just looking for ability
saying you're a bad dude.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Okay, okay, I think you Yeah, yeah, I'm a good naw,
I'm a good dude.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I'm good, dude.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, we gotta watch you. Then I'm like a hawk.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But I know a guy said this, and I listed
all the guys, A lot of the guys that Perk named.
I listed those guys. That's what happens when you met
a football guy talk about basketball. Now there's a basketball guy.
See they are looking Obviously it touched the nerve. I'll
just go back and look at the face of the
NBA and tell me and tell me what they were.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Take football aside. Tell me what the guy he tell
me the guy that's been the face of the NBA
that did not.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Show a display stability, tell me the guy.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Hey, I'm with you when you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Hey, do you think you think Anthony Edwards could be
the first one to change that?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Boy?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Hey, there's family value, there's morals, and some people just
don't cut it. I mean it's different, it's different. Yeah, yeah,
But they say the problem is a lot of people.
They said, Hey, they're trying to destroy the new clear
the family nuclear I mean.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Listen, everyone operates at a different frequency.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Everybody. Hey, you can operate that. You just can't be
the basic the NBA. You can operate that, Okay, Yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You're right, And I think that's a large part of
why he doesn't Because he doesn't. I don't want to
do that. I still want to go to my little
dives hole in the wall. Y'all don't see me. I
got my shades on and took them to cut I
don't want all that. I don't want all of that
that comes along with being because now you got people.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Now you got people really out there trying to you
in your business, trying.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
To lift the covers up so they can show the
world what you're really doing and then let the cover
fall back down on it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
In him only and only being twenty.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Three, you have to move twenty three, hey, hold on, and.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You got to move completely different, Yes different, once you
crossed that line open the marriage in the having stability,
and you have to at that age, with that kind
of money, you're.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Going to know and most of and most of the
gut live in Atlanta too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And the problem and the thing is a lot of
these guys lebron K new Savannah since they were fourteen,
Steph knew Aisha when they were teenagers, Magic new Cookie,
Steph met excuse me not, Steph Kobe met Vanessa, his
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first the second year in the NBA. He's nineteen early
eighteen nineteen. She's a senior in high school or junior
high school. A man is twenty three. You gotta realize
Kobe's nineteen and man is twenty three. He meets somebody's like, Okay,
this is it for me? Hey, I met mine?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, Hollo up magic with Dayton, Cookie and car Yeah.
M So it's a different time now. If and it's hard,
it's getting harder and harder today. They and these are
this because you don't know, Yeah, but I don't me
looking at it from a distance and studying the NBA
(28:19):
like I have, and looking at faces of the NBA.
Go back and look at the guys that the that
was the face of the NBA, and look at this
their home situation.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Now, ay, Joe, I want you to watch uh right, see.
I want you to pay attention to people in the chat.
I want you to pay attention to the difference in.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Our cups.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
All our cups are running over right now, everything is
going good, everything is going smooth.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Now. I want you to I want you to.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
See how life changes for your boy in twenty twenty six,
when it crossed that room, hear me, Yeah, yeah, I
want you. I want you to see how life changes
for me. Now, what I want you to do is
I want you to pay attention.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Now.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Remember I told you this.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You told you, Hey, it's a is May twenty seven, Yes,
twenty five. When I jump that room after my birthday,
I want you to see how light changes exponentially.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
And I want you to follow suit right behind me.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, yeah, God Dad, he gonna gonna here, gonna drop
no matter fact, we're gonna.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Jump the plain time.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Hey, o Joe, it's time for him to put it up.
He got that plight up. Yeah, because listen, we need
to listen. We need to be We're gonna we gonna
be on the right track. Okay, you're gonna do on
the right track. So I'm I'm gonna go ahead and
take the lead. I'm gonna start it off. It's gonna
be like Dodgeball. I don't like Yeah, Ship, you got
(29:39):
time to play way Ship.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Johns Barkley also chimed in on the face of the league. Hey, ESPN,
I love you guys. Don't try to make ad man,
he said Anthony edwas, but don't like don't. Don't try
to make Anthony Edwards the face of the NBA. There's
the face of the NBA. It's Shay Gilgers, it's Nicola Jokic.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
It's honest.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You can't give it to people. They have to take
it at s GA is taking.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
It right now? Yeah, ye what that means.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And look once somebody tells you so, I mean and
man told him that that's not what I want. Yeah, right,
And it's like the more the more he says he
doesn't want it, the more people try to bestore the
pun it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
But you know why, you know why, it has nothing
to do with you know, forget I'm not obviously people
are gonna say, oh, look how he's playing. Now, Listen,
he has this as good as he has first levels,
he has careers, but he has charms.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
You have, Yes, as good as x Y he is,
he still doesn't have that it factor that Ann has.
He just doesn't as great as he is Joe, He's
I just think it's.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Hard for for I, a foreign born player, to be
the face of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I just do.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You think you think you know where you think that
has anything to do with it? You think no, a
little bit smidge.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
He'll be the same thing. You think.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Do you think an American born player can be the
face of football European football soccer?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, oh that's impossible.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
You would have to be a see that that would
that would that would be damn near impossible.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
But I mean, no disrespect impossible.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Let's get my m manet get a man a little time. Yeah,
he's still at attended age.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, twenty three, he's a man. Man. It ain't no.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And it takes a special type of something because both
because you got to go back and you go back
and think like Magic was twenty when.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
He came into the league. You want to he won
the championship, burned all those other guys.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
But normally, you know, guys were guys were twenty two
to twenty three when they was getting to the league.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
O joe.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, and so now guys are won and done. You
asking an eighteen ain't no eighteen year old about to
getting married nineteen year old. Hey, look, because you live
in the American dream. This is something that you've dreamed
about since you was a kid. Now that you get
to this point, especially at a young young age, nineteen twenty, man,
(32:12):
you ain't trying to be tied down.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You're trying to go have you.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Got you gotta be mentally you have to be mentally prepared.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
You got to be ready for that because it's it's
or Oh.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I think you gotta come from like you gotta have
parents that were married. You have to be I think
I think if you was raised in the household and
your parents have been married, I think it's a lot
easier because look, okay, oh Joe, all my partners I
grew up with, man, Listen, they all married, but they
are all their parents.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
They've all been married since we were kidds.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Bro I'm the only one grew up in a single
parent household, you know what I'm saying. But my closest homeboys,
my closest homeboys, they married, Joe.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It also come down to actually finding someone actually you
can and married. Though there's a difference, it's not we
ain't talk about just aesthetics, you know, I'm talking about
someone of substance outside of just looks. So actually finding
someone to marry is is that's the difficult. That's also difficult.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I hear.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I come from I come from a where a one
pairent you know, household.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I didn't do things the traditional way, but I do
actually value marriage and want that. I want that stability,
especially at my at at old age, after being out
for a young you know, Joe, after being out in
the streets for so long and understanding what's out there,
won't that I'm here. There's nothing wrong with that, But
it's an investment when you get no return. I don't
(33:39):
care how much you spend it, and I don't care
who you spent it on. It looks good, sesthetically pleasing.
It's good to be able to be someone sponsored for
a while, but it gets you nothing in return.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Of course, has started this week about how this Thunder
team could be even scarier. No matter what's happening this
playoff Thunder will be adding Serbian star Dakola You'll Pitch
to its rotation next season. You'll Pitch was the number
twelve pick in the twenty twenty four NBA Draft. It
picked that OKC got from Houston in the twenty nineteen
Westbrook trade. But Yo Picch had a torn acl and
(34:13):
would miss his entire rookie season, and that scared the
way most teams except Okay see before the injury, the
sixty You'll Pitch would view it as a top five
prospect as a playmaking point guard. CBS sports Mark Draft
had him as high as number two at one point.
Next season, he'll finally make his NBA debut. Man, Okay,
(34:38):
see got a lot over there, Okay with cha. I
don't know how they gonna keep all them guys. Yeah,
because you know, hey, they got that now. Because you
know what, Chcong can sign four for two ninety four
or you can wait five for three eighty.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Jaylen Williams is gonna want to get paid. Ches's gonna
want to get paid.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I mean, I like this guy because now you got
somebody that's gonna handle the ball. And when Shad's on
the bench, if he's what what they say to us, well,
you know see, but uh it's gonna be It gets hard, man,
It gets hard, o Joe, because when you start winning,
people come and start raiding your handhouse. They want to
they want they want your chicken that's been laying these
golden eggs. And that's that's and that's what happens. If
(35:18):
you see it in football all the time, you see
what happened. Uh, Eventually, Philly's not gonna be able to
keep all these guys, those great defensive players. Now you
play Jais, you play Jalen Carter. What you're gonna do
with Jordan Davis, What you're gonna do. What you're gonna
do Cooper de John? What you're gonna do with Brother Mitchell? What'
you're gonna do with THEO?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
OKAYO. When you winning, everybody, everybody eats. So you have
to go into the luxury tax. Got to take care
of these guys. Just like in Boston would have won
this year, man, they wouldn't have been they wouldn't have
cared about paying those dudes. Uh, then they gonna break
that thing up, Joe. Now they y'all yeah, now, but
I think even the bands know that. Think they break
it up because you got to. You got to think
(36:00):
about it. You got two guys make it over three
hundred million, You got think about it. You got Derrick
White and you got Holiday making well over one hundred million.
You got Al Horford probably making thirty five to thirty
eight million, and you got Prezingers.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I think I think if they if they had a
chance to win it this year off, I think they
willing to go into the luxury tax and pay that
it's just like, Okay, see if they win it this year,
they're gonna have to go into the luxury tax and
they got to pay them. But I heard the thing,
and see because I'm looking at the Lakers. The Lakers
had the same situation they wanted in twenty twenty and
(36:37):
broke the whole thing up.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
You don't know what that was about it. I don't
know right y'all. Don't know what that was about. They had.
They had a great team. I know it was in
the bubble, but they had a great team, Reagan. Just
to see if you can repeat, I think you so.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
It makes you wonder like was it something more to
it than just basketball?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
You know what I mean? Well, never know.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Carmelo Anthony and PG Paul George aren't convinced that Jannis
will ask to be traded from Milwaukee, despite the rumor
surrounding his uncertain future with the organization. Giannis is that
old cut era, that that old era cut. I think
he wants to stay in Milwaukee's whole career. That's what
PG said. He ain't going nowhere. Janni's built Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
No, absolutely, not that that matters, that matters, Not that matters,
Not I understand PG and Carmelo obviously very respectable, good
for good friends of mine. But honest, he's not going back.
He is gonna be the same thing every year. The
man wants to win, the man wants to contend for
another title again.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
No, he doesn't want to. He didn't want to lift the.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Heavy load every single night, every single.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
He's for the way now than what he was when
he won his title. Yeah. Absolutely, That's why I'll say him.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Going problem that you're up against is that guess what
you see all they got What if Shae gets on
this year, Tatum already got one. I mean, you're not
worried about Steph and Lebron and Katie because they've already
done the the you know, next couple of years they're
gonna be on their way out.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
But what about.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Okay, see, he ain't going nowhere, at least for the
next year or two. How do if we talked about
this last night, Joe, let's just say they break it back.
Dame's not playing next year. So even if he goes
back to Milwaukee, they're not better than the Knicks. They're
not better than the Cavaliers, They're not better than the Pacers.
(38:40):
And I'm not so sure is that they can beat
Boston with the roster that they have with just Giannis.
So now at best case scenario, Oh if Orlando, if
Ben Carro and from Bardner stay healthy, they're not.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Better than them. So if best case scenario, you fifth
or sixth.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Hey, look, I think I think Janni's will always say
the right yes because he don't. Look, he don't want
that blowback everybody, Joe's since they saw what happened with Lebron,
everybody that y'all want to be here. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
because at least Lebron played his contract out.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
See, Lebron is one of those guys. He never asked
to be.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Traded, but he play his contract out, and people hold
him to the same stand of the guys that be
asking for trades. Lebron is never asked to be traded
in the contract out his Ton contract was up in Cleveland,
he went to Miami.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Contract was up in Miami, He went back to Cleveland.
Contract was up in Cleveland, he went to LA.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So you got to think about it. Lebron is damn
there as much time in LA as he did his
last stint in Cleveland, and he went well, went to Miami,
right Yeah, hey, Love, I can see young. I don't
know how he gonna do it, but I just see
Yanna moving this summer. Okay, hold Joe, I can't see
him coming going back to Milwaukee trying to do all
(40:06):
the heavy lifting by itself. It's gonna be tough. It's
gonna be challenging because they can't bring nobody in help
outside of what they already have.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
They can't bring nobody and then say best players injured.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
But can you imagine if you're honest, gets traded to
a team to all I say, the Mavericks or the
Rockets or you know whatever, make a run for oh Man,
can you imagine like he gonna have to still do
some heavy lifting, but it ain't gonna be nothing like that.
(40:38):
It ain't gonna have a whole lot of heavy lifted
if he got step on this team.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I asked you that last night.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You know where where is the scenarios where he could go,
where the situation would be different than what it is
with Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Right now, well, you gotta break First of all, Steph
is healthy, Dame is not.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
They play different types again.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Stephani's perpetual motion, He's gonna get a lot of wide
open looks because you gotta you, you gotta build a
wall to keep Gianni's out the paint. And then when
Yanni's kicked because you saw the average six and sis,
he's getting better as a passer. So the thing is
he's just gonna have to get a lot of teams
because teams going straight up, they're only a handful of
(41:22):
teams that could. Okay, see Brooklyn Houston Rockets. They're really
the only team to have the draft capitol. Houston have
the draft capitol and the players because you're ready to
you could pack a shingoon. Uh huh oh the Spurs,
you have to. Spurs definitely have the capitol. So there's
(41:43):
the only a handful of team to have the draft
capitol and players.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Huh, that's not fair.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
You can't put wimby and got them.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Jannis to the other man.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
A life, Come on, man, yeah, life ain't fair.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You put them on a team and listen, you're gonna
be number ethans for chauffeur.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
What yeah, hey, what what pick? What picked? The Spurs got?
What the pick?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Spurs that got the two s Furs got the number
two pick, So you get a big dime draft. They
got plenty of other draft picks. I don't know if
they're gonna be willing to part with. Obviously Stephen Castle
and uh Wimby I.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Would think would be, but anything else.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I mean, you got Fox, you're gonna have to You're
probably gonna have to get off Castle. Okay, okay, if
you got Fox, yeah, yeah, you got Fox with better
so you got five, got Wimby, Yiannis? Yeah you sure,
Old Joe Man wait, Darien Fox, yeah, Darren fo Yeah, No,
that's not fair.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I ain't.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Because men walk. You're gonna want some stop power. And
then by Castle, he's proven. You know, he just won
Rookie of the Year. So they gonna want they gonna
want some They gonna want somebody, and I want to
proven player. I want a couple of proven players. I
might take Vassal and there Caldon Johnson too, and I
want that number pick and a couple of other picks
and some pick spots.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Hey for Gianni's his worth? Yeah, because let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I think if he plays with some some other great talent,
he will be more of a willing passer versus you know,
I know he'll still be downhill, but I think he'll
be more reluctant, you know. I think he'll pass a
lot more versus just driving in there, you know, just
trying to get files and things of that sort.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Uh, he's a cheat, cole Man. He's a cheat cold
for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
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