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July 21, 2025 72 mins

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Cam Newton leaving Jalen Hurts out of the top 10 QBs in the NFL, Keenan Allen remains unsigned in the NFL, WNBA players warm up in ‘Pay us what you owe us’ T-Shirts at WNBA all star weekend and much more!

1:08:25 Cam Newton leaves Jalen Hurts out of his top 10 QBs
1:19:30 Keenan Allen Remains Unsigns
1:22:50 WNBA Pay Us What You Owe Us tshirts
1:37:40 Marcus Smart
1:42:00 Ocho’s Old Storage Units Purchased
1:59:15 Q & Ayyyy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cam Newton started a firestorm when he didn't have Jalen
Hurts and his top ten quarterbacks in the league. Jalen
Hurst is a great quarterback, but if we're talking about
what they bring to the table, it's hard to judge
what Jalen do when you're throwing to a guy like
aj Brown Devonte Smith. You have a tight end skill set,
you have a dominant defense, and the best running back

(00:21):
in the game. Jalen Hurts does not have to play
leap for the Eagles to win. He has to play good,
but that doesn't have to But he doesn't have to
play leap. We're just asking you not to win the game.
We're just asking you not to lose it. Okay yo,
this is what to had to say. You would be
judging him as if all that wasn't playing well. This

(00:44):
is a skip Baylor's type of a statement with dreads.
Don't be mad at Jayleen because he's making great decisions.
Maybe had you made the decision to jump on that ball,
just maybe y'all will say anything to go viral.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
This isn't it.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Cam. That's touchy. It's touchy, But listen, as a quarterback,
you have to respect what cam is saying, as a receiver,
I understand Jalen's side. I understand what Nick Sirianni asks
from Jalen Hurts. I understand that they are a team
where it's not esthetically pleasing from an off of the

(01:19):
standpoint of throwing the ball two million times a game.
I get that. Why do you think A J. Brown
was upset some games?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Why do you think a J.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Brown takes that book and reads a book on the
sideline some days in some games?

Speaker 4 (01:31):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Some games?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
He goes off?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Some games, Demonte Smith goes off. Sae Kwon Barkley does
what he just do. Jalen Hurts does exactly what the
Philadelphia Eagles ask of him when it comes to running
that offense, and he does it to perfection, which is
why they have them fucking big ass God damn rings.

(01:54):
That's it. It's simple. The game of football is not complicated.
Understand your person understand your personnel strengths and your personnel's weaknesses,
use it to your advantage, and play simple football. It's
not complicated, it's not hard, and they do exactly what
they're supposed to do. Play within the confines of what

(02:17):
we do well. It ain't throwing the ball one hundred
times a game. It's throwing it when you have to,
it's running it when you need to.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Simple it really is. I look at it like what
is required of me to win? Now, I'm not finn
to punish this guy because he's throwing the great replet receivers.
Because Troy threw to a great receiver, Ted brash Out
through the great receivers, Joe Montana, through the great receivers.
There are a lot of great quarterbacks that's in the

(02:47):
Hall of Fame that through the great receivers. So I'm
not finning to hold that against it. Troy Aigman's in
the Hall of Fame and he just got the all
time leading rush in his backfield. So do we hold
that against him? Did we hold that mammoth offense line?
Many believe he had the greatest offensive line in history.
We don't hold that against him. At the end of

(03:08):
the day, you do what is asked, what is required
of you in order to win the game.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'm sure Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Jalen Hurts in college played prepared him for the NFL
because playing for Nick Saban, you're gonna play to win
the game. Now, it might require you to throw it
thirty five times more time than not. You're gonna run
it forty times, and you're gonna play outstanding defense. So
he was prepared for this. I watched him in Oklahoma

(03:42):
and I watched him.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Throw the ball. He can, Yeah, but that's not what required.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
And I don't believe I don't know if that's if
he do you ask him to throw the ball. I'm
not saying that he couldn't. I don't know if that's
conducing for them to win. Why would I go get
sat Kawhan Barkley to all of a sudden now, un
he's Jalen Hurts throwing them all thirty five forty fives
the game like.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's you know, they running and running. Shoot, that makes
no sense.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's not what they do. That's not even their off
that's not even the scheme of their offense. That's not
what it is, right, not what they do. Is it's balanced?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
The offer The question I have is damn there is
damn there like it was in the two thousands. Yeah,
that's basically what it is outside everybody else, everybody else
throwing it, throwing it, throwing it, throwing it, throwing it,
throwing it. Man, Listen, what works for you. Stay within
the realm of what works for you. Not trying to
please everyone else.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I'm trying to win, damn, because there are a lot
of people that, oh, bab look at our offense, look
at our offense, and what that offense gets you?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Home at home and home in January?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Thank you now, Jalen Hurts been playing. Look, they went
to the Super Bowl, they lost, they got kicked, it
bounced out early next year. The next year they go
back and win. So it seems like this formula that
Eagles have is working quite well.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
It's funny. He's been, he's been, he's been listening. Not
top five, but he mentioned the Super Bowl two years
in a row, losing one and winning the next one.
And there's a good chance. But they've gotten better, added
some additions with the draft and the off season, and
there's a chance they could go back again. Get the
chance they could go back again barring injury.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I think the thing is and I don't want to
speak for Cam, but I think Cam is looking at it, like, so,
what would Patrick Mahomes do in that offense? What would
Joe Burrow do in that offense? What would Lamar Jackson
do in that offense. He's looking at other guys and
implementing them and says, well, if I took Jalen Hurts
and I put him in Kansas City, you think they

(05:40):
going to all them Super Bowls and doing all that?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well, yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
For cam.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
If you're hypothetically putting different players, putting Joe Burrow on
the Eagles and you're putting Patrick Mahomes on Eagles, then
the offensive self changes drastically to fit with those players,
and those quarterbacks do well right that it would be
completely different.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm sure Joe Burr would like to have that offensive line.
I'm sure Patipahall would like to have that.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Official life Listen.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Hey, because if they had those offensive line, they'd be
billionaire players because they'll they would literally play in twenty
plus years and you see what the quarterbacks are making now.
They would literally lead the NFL having earned a billion
dollar in earnings.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Jaylen Hurst is what he is. I don't know. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
If he's I don't think I would he's five. If
you say he's top five, he's five, because I'm not.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I wouldn't take it there are certain guys I wouldn't
take him over, but I don't. I'm not getting him
out of the top five, I mean the top top ten.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Absolutely absolutely I like it. But again, you know, cam preference,
Oh Joe, it's what you like, Yeah, Cam Cam, you
like you like, you like cyber trucks.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I like range Rovers.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Somebody else likes an old school somebody likes some Mercedes.
Somebody likes BMW, somebody likes Rose, somebody like you know,
the Bentless.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
It's it's it's preference.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And maybe Jalen Hurts isn't as esthetically pleasing to the
eye because he's not gonna throw for four hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
He's not gonna have games you know like that. He
just gonna win.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
You'll throw for two hundred, He'll throw He'll do what
is required in order to win the game. Mm hmm.
And earlier in the year, I just knew that he
was gonna have to do more. And when they needed
him to do more come playoff time in the Super Bowl,
he did that because that Kansas City shut down. Saquon

(07:46):
he had to do it with his legs and he
had to throw the ball and he did that. M hm.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
That that goes to say, and obviously what what Cam
said is is I listened to him. I listened to
what Cam says because he's a quarter back. He played
the Yes. Now, I don't have to agree with what
you're saying, which in this case I don't. I'm not
sure how you come up with the conclusion on why
you feel Jalen Hurst is not in your top five.
But I gave you my reason why I think he is.

(08:13):
And a lot of people aren't gonna agree with Cam
for for for whatever reason. But I don't either, you know.
But again, he played the position. He might view it
from a different lens than everybody else. What lens that is,
I'm not sure, but is definitely top five and he's
at five.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
But look at the receivers that Peyton had. Nobody held
that against him. He had Reggie Marvin, he had Dallas
Clark Zalez, he had Dallas Clark, he had he had
he had Marshall Fault, he had Edrin James. Nobody held
that against him. Look at what Kurt Warner had. He

(08:56):
had a kier Keene, he had Tory Holt, he had.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Isa Bruce, had Marshall fault, Ricky pro.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Ricky pro.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I don't know if he had. I think they didn't.
They draft Stephen Jackson. I think, yeah, Stephen, maybe he
wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
With Stephen Jackson, oh Man.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
First of all, everybody, in order for you to win,
you got to have great players. You gotta have talented players. Absolutely, absolutely,
it's a different it's it's a different time now, O Joe.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It really it's just really that simple. It is.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, you see the money these guys making. And look, Cam,
this is what Cam is saying. I'd have won super
Bowls if I'd have been in the system like that,
But they asked me and they required me to do
much more. That's what basically, in a nutshell, that's what

(09:50):
he's saying. I didn't have those receivers, and I didn't
have a running game like that, and my offensive line,
damn sure, wasn't that good.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
We had a good defense, but it wasn't that right.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I was required to do what they asked Mahmes, what
they asked Burrow, what they asked some of these other quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
They don't ask Jalen to do that. I don't know
what you want.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
That's that's a good way to look at it. It's
a good way to put it. It's a good way
to put it, but I hate it. But I think
me your situations.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'm sitting back, Oh yo, watch Cam's career from start
to finish. I think that's what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Me.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Look at what I was asked to do. Look at
what he's asked to do. Look at the players that
he had surrounding him.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Look at what I had surrounding me. Right, we can
do this basically with everybody.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. You you, you definitely,
you definitely can.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Keenan Allen remains unsigned, stop playing time pro bowler finished
last year with the Bears seventy receptions, seven hundred and
forty four yards seven touchdowns with Mike Williams sudden retirement
from the charge of OHO.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Would you like to see Keenan back with the Chargers?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
All right, listen, It would be nice. It would be
really nice. But the difficult part about it is Keenan
at times like he plays in the slot, but lad
McConkie is taking out taking that position, Ladd. Matter of fact,
if not, his name is Ladarius. Ladarius McConkie has taken
that that slot spot. Now, there are so many other

(11:42):
teams that can use Keenan Allen's Keenan Allen's service and
his offensive prowess of being able to get open and
create separation, intermediate short routes and moving the change down
the field. There's really no reason with camp right around
the corner. If I'm not mistaken, two days from now,
he should be Foster. There are a lot of veterans
that are out there if you look at the names,

(12:02):
some big names that would be great for and be
a great veteran presence in locker rooms around the NFL.
I think they're gonna get signed. You know what happens
obviously in camp, People pull stuff, people get hurt, you know,
God willing no serious injuries. And I think most of
the veterans, some of the big names that we're used
to seeing, they're gonna they're gonna be They're gonna be

(12:24):
a roster. They're gonna be a roster. I just want
to hope and make sure that they're ready to go
in their training when at that time, that time presents itself.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
What how much is the asking?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Oh, money wise, Yes, you gotta be fair, you gotta
you gotta be fair. And I'm sure knowing knowing him,
he's made he made his money.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
You homeless, Let me ask your question. Oh you homeless? Yeah,
you hungry?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Uh talk to me.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
You gotta, you gotta.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
You got a bachelor's degree and you got a master's degree,
but the jobs that you're qualified for aren't offering that.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
That's a good one, that body.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
So that's the question that comes down to.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Now, it comes down to how much do I love
the game? How much do I really want to play?
Because I've already I already made the bulk of my money.
He'd have made the bulk of his money already. I
got my nice little nest egg. Do I really want
to get out there and do this?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
No, no, no, no, that's not the question. The question is
do I want to do this for this amount of money?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'm with you when you're right. I'm I'm with you
when you're right. I ain't want to say it like that,
but you took the words right out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I want to work, right, But I don't want to
work for that.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I'm just telling you that that's how people think, because
a lot of times people are like, yeah, I want
a job, Oh but fast food.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
That's beneath me. Oh yo.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Shouldn't mean not if you're hungry, not if you try
to not if you're trying to feed somebody other than yourself. Hell,
even if you try to just feed yourself. Not if
you need not, if you got to play rent. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta do what you gotta do.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Man, I ain't paying for that little bit of money. Okay, Well, hey,
so you'd rather go with nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Going home?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Then hey, he got a nice family. I've seen him
on social media with his wife and his kids going
home with him.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Nah, No, he coming, he coming, He coming, he coming?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Oh Joe Doug.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
The NBA players warmed up in T shirts ahead of
the All Star Game last night, the t shirts featuring
the words pay us what.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You owe us.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
After the All Star Game, when the feature Fee Callier
won the m v P Trophy, the crowd chatty, pay them,
pay them, pat them?

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Ojo what you're thinking?

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Listen, pay it paying what they own? Now Listen. I
keep hearing rumblings. I don't know enough about this to
get in depth with it and talk about it like
I should, but I understand they get a very small
percentage of the revenue that they do bring in, right, stay,
stay with me now chat, I'm listening. They make a

(15:02):
very small percentage of the revenue that they do bring in.
Pay them what you owe them a little bit more
than what they're already making based on the revenue that
they bring in. I mean, it's it's not rocket science,
it's not complicated. NFL players, I'm not sure what percentage
of NFL revenue.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
They make that they pet.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
If I'm not mistaken, I might have saw something that
said NBA players get nine percent of NBA revenue.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
WNBA. No, that's the WNBA get nine percent of the revenue.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Let's get that up a little bit more. That's all.
That's all. The game, the game for them, for the
women is continuing to grow. A lot of people make
a fusser oldough nobody watch their dad than anybody watching them. Oh,
people are watching. They're filling up the stands. Every goddamn
game I go to, I see the lines. Hell, I've
been to the games. So somebody lying Twitter lying to me,

(16:00):
because every every time I turn on the game or
look at the game, the motherfucker stadium is full.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Everyone Pay us what you owe. That's a slippery slope.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Why Because from everything that I've read, the w NBA
has never turned the profit.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
So if I never turned the profit, oh jo, So
let me.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Get this right, I'm losing money, but you want to
raise right, some ain't adding.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Up if you never turned the profit. WNBA has been
around to how long? How many years?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Now? Ninety six I think the year they started, and.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
They've never turned the profit. But it still seems to
be running just well and fine and continuing to grow
some somebody.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I mean, look, there's some said that the NBA is supplementing.
Some people say they're not supplementing. But the one thing
that's that's not being refuted is that they're not making
them a money where they could like, Oh the reason
why the salaries for the think about it, Ojo?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
JJ Watt made one hundred and twelve million dollars in
his career career. Right, his brother just got one hundred
and twenty three million dollar contract for three years? Because
why the NFL revenue is cup increasing exponentially?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Okay, I like that, but listen, if it's WNB been
around since ninety six, I'm good at man, So I'm
not gonna say how many years has been at some
point in that time, whether it turns a profit or not,
that profit has still increasingly got better and better and better.
So if you only make nine percent of the profit
and revenue that you bring in right now, there's nothing
wrong with making a little bit more. Just a little

(17:47):
bit more. Don't give it too much?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
How much? Oh, because I think Look now, I don't
think that's.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Not my area expertise that would be, that would be
amongst them to figure out. But I'm just saying just a.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Little bit more.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
A lot of times, don't yo, When you feel you've
been underpaid for the length of time that you've been underpaid,
you don't feel that's enough. You don't feel they can
pay you enough. Oh yo, I can't pay back pay
you for thirty years.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I like that, right, jab.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Heldo.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
The w NBA players get nine point three percent of
the league revenue. NBA, NHL, NFL players get fifty percent
of the revenue. The WNBA did lose forty million dollars
in twenty twenty four, but the large part was that
was due to their are currently signed to which twenty
twenty six goals from roughly forty five million to two

(18:42):
hundred million annually this will result in the essence result
in essence, the league making money overnight and losing forty
million to a net gain of one point fifteen just
the loan in TV deals. Even if game tickets sold
were to stop growing the merch stopped selling, it will
still be in the green. So with that being.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Said, hold on, lost forty million, yes lost, Yes, you
sure you read that right? You said lost?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
They lost forty million last year.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yes, but but in twenty six they're gonna go from
getting forty five million annually for TV to two hundred million.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
And day there we go. Now be talking now, be
talking business. But pay us what you owe.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
But still no, I'm gonna pay you moving forward. I'm
not trying to make up a back pay.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Okay, okay, well okay, don't pay us what you owe.
Pay us moving forward. But it better be looking better
than that ninety nine point eight percent that we are getting. Okay. Yeah,
and it's listen, the game is growing tremendously. More eyes,
more visibility, kids are watching. Listen what Caitlin Clark has
been able to do, along with the others that laid
the foundation, that laid the footprint. As Wilson's you know

(20:01):
the angel Reess like like, I like where it's going
page Buckers, I mean, come on, man, Beckers, Beckers, Yeah,
my bad, buck I was think about I was thinking
about jam Yeah, so I was thinking about Smuckers. My bad,
my bad.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, I think the thing is I
think to see that nine.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
You got at least I mean, at least you got
to get the twenty percent at the bare damn minimum.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Right you said. Listen, you said twenty. I was I
was gonna say nineteen.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, what I'm saying, I'm saying, that said the bare minimum.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Right, You're right, You're right.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Shoot listen, look oh yo, look, you and I both
know they're not about to get the fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
They're not about to get the fifty percent.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
That's that's that's that's not.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
They're not gonna get fifty. So maybe hey, can we
triple it? Can we get to can we get to
twenty seven? Twenty eight percent?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah? Do right?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Sho?

Speaker 5 (20:59):
They need they need to let me, let me, let
me go on there. I I get with you, I
get I get you with your own I get I
agree with you. Put me in that goddamn room.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
But who would I have to talk to if it
comes down to to to the owners.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Oh ship, Well, I mean, what's what's the lady that's
the commissioner.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
What's the lady Kathy Ingelbert inglehart Ingelbert. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
So basically you work with the commissioners and their lawyer
and uh uh the w n B A lawyers And
you have the w n B A, p A and
their lawyers and they're like, okay.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, all right, walking walking there with my nice suit on.
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
They yeah, I think, look, so you're increasing you you're
increasing basically four percent, four and a half percent, right,
so you're going up. I mean you're thinking about you're
going from four and a half so you four times
four and a half times the money. You're going from
forty five million annually to two hundred million annually. And

(22:14):
they're looking to bring on a couple of other teams, right, Oh, we.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Need a Miami team. Maybe I could be the owner
of the Miami team.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
They had a Miami team.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
First of all, y'all barely support the heat stop hold on, hold.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
On, hold on, hold on, man.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And they had a good player, Ruth Riley. She used
to h she was one of the better players in
the w NBA. She used to go to this but
expense studio. So but uh no, no, not Miami. Too
much going on?

Speaker 3 (22:42):
What you mean?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
But we you know what, how y'all how y'all, how
oh y'all y'all did, how y'all doing with the marlins?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
The marlins? How y'all doing with the heat? You know,
y'all come to the game at halftime at the heat? Right?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, but hold on, listen to me, Listen to me.
See's one thing, this is what I love about Miam. Okay,
let's talk about the women. We talk about the WNBA.
One thing about women is women show up on time.
One thing about women women support each other.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
You know why we know they don't.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
That's why we're in the situation that we're in, because
if women supported each other, it'd be more. That's the problem. Okay,
the women ain't supporting the women in the w NBA, right, I.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
See, Yeah, Okay, you're right, you're right. I just think
for some reason, if I was a start at WNBA franchise,
that thing would be lit. I have. It's not American
Airlines renting no more? What is it?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Hell, don't start me to line here you live in Miami.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I forgot the name of the rental. It was FTR.
I mean, listen, all of them scam They be scamming
the names and they keep changing.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
So I don't know, but yeah, I want to look.
I think, can we get can we get the salary?
Can we get the top salaries to at least a
million dollars?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
A year old joke.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Now we're talking, can we get before Juju get here?
Can we get it like that?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Can we get at least? Can we all get that?
I mean, I think the highest you can make it
is what two forty five? Two fifty mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Now I may make it. No, I'm making five hundred, man,
make it five hundred. Hey, eighty young ladies eighty mil ladies.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Boy seventeen million? Ooh, look who makes seven? So now
you talking about three million? You have some three million
dollars some three million dollar with ladies.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, Age Wilson, she should be making three mill.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I was hoping that that triple it go to twenty seven,
twenty eight. I don't think they going to forty ash.
I don't think they're gonna even get to thirty ye.
I think I think realistically twenty I think what I
think twenty twenty five, and maybe go incrementally.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
From there from that point.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Hey, hey man, that's a hey, that's a good idea. Man,
I think about it. What I was sitting here pondering
and reflecting on. Like me, me and you, we can
go half on a w N A franchise in man.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
They were Hey, did you see the Valkyries they just
got they just got value at five hundred million? Who
the Valkyrie They just came into existence last year five
hundred million, deliberty four fifty. No, Sharon not cho ain'tle
fit to do nothing.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Nah, listen, I'm let me let me call. I'm gonna
call Jeff Tomorrow'm gonna set up a call with Jeff.
I'm gonna set up a call with Jeff.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yes, those those franchises are becoming very I mean you
see Eli Eli, the back dad of you know, he
was supposed to become a solid partner, but you know,
one percent partner with the with the Giants.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Eli Manning. Okay, he said, no, bro, you see the
valuation of these teams.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
So even even if you're talking at one, you're talking.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Hundreds of million.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of people just sitting on a
hundred million dollar can go get their hands one hundred million.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Dollars for Joe.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
I know somebody, Yeah, I know somebody too.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
It just ain't nobody. Ain't nobody I'm really close to.
I know some people too. It just ain't nobody I'm
close to. Yeah, I know some people. I know a
few people.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Hey, that was a go, and that was a good one.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I don't think people really a I mean when you
could just go, ay, go touch it. I mean you
can go touch it and look here nah, but I look,
I would like to see them at least at bare
at the absolute bare minimum it goes to double, which
would be eighteen and a half to nineteen percent, I

(26:45):
would like it be somewhere, you.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Know, being realistic. I like to be realistic.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I'll be pieing the sky and say, yeah, let it
be like the NFL or NBA and so and so on,
but that that's not goingna happen after top after rip,
So we can get that thing somewhere between twenty and
twenty five five percent.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
I like it, make it, make it twenty four yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
And and and go out and support them.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, people got to support them people. I know y'all
listening and whatever, whatever city you're in, make sure you
go out there. You support, you support the young ladies.
Shoot goddamn game, dope zel every time I think about
that goddamn experience at the Atlanta Dream Game in Atlanta,
man cheesus Christ stop playing. Yeah, hey wait, making.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
A million, making two million dollars a year, I feel happy.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
You heard me?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Houston got a team.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
They had a team to comments. They won the first
four NBA titles, so no more. But I think they
are they trying to come and get get another team
in Detroit because Detroit had the shock. Detroit won the
championship when Sheryl Ford, who was Karl Malone's daughter, she
would she was they won the title. I don't think

(28:02):
Cleveland's ever who else had a Miami had a team,
Houston had a team, Detroit had a team.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I'm trying to think, does anybody else?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Sacramento used to have a team that had the Monarchs
teacher pil Cheri. Miami sold Okay, Charlotte, So Cleveland did
have a Oh wow, Okay. I think Portland's gonna keep
the same name, aren't they? Is it because you said, Cleveland, Detroit.

(28:36):
What's the other one in Portland, Philly, Philly? Okay, yeah, okay,
just Josh Harris, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think let's

(28:59):
I'm hoping.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I'm I'm keeping my fingers cross twenty twenty five percent. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I like it that way we can have some some
women making million, two million dollars. Marcus Smart agreed to
a contract buy out with the Wizards and plans to
sign a two year, eleven million dollar deal with the
Lakers after clearing waivers.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
The thirty one year old, who just played.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Fifty four combined games over the last two seasons due
to injuries, bring a strong defensive presence to the Lakers.
According to Schams, Luca personally reached out the Smart, making
it clear he wanted him on the team. Ojo Well,
the defensive to twenty twenty two defensive Player of the Year.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
What does this do for the Lakers?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
It doesn't do much as good as Marcus Smart is.
I don't think their problem. Obviously, having a defensive of
presence like him is awesome, But on the officer end,
they still need a big. That's the problem. They need
a big. Now, I know, I know, I'm not I'm
not Doris Burke when it comes or George so Donal
when it comes to talking or Tim Legler when it

(30:05):
comes to talking basketball. But I've been watching long enough
to know that you need a god damn big when
you get to the goddamn playoffs to be able to
compete for them specifically, that's what they need. Marcare Smart
great addition, but what are we doing here? Are you
sure you're trying to do what's necessary to win this season?

(30:29):
Maybe I'm wrong? Maybe maybe Chad do y'all see something
I don't see with the Lakers. That's signing my Marcus
Smart as good as.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
The old Marcus Smart or old Marcus Smart.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
That's a good one. I like that. I like where
you went one.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I added THEE and the other and I left the
off right.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
You should have a very highly motivated DeAndre Ayton because
he got a one year deal. Marcus Mark signed on
one and the one, so he should be motivated.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
H DeAndre Aiden Portland Trailblazer, DeAndre Aiden Phoenix Son Phoenix Son,
DeAndre Aiden. Yeah, I think that's that's that's my Behaman Bredren.
I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Damn, I told it.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I told it.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
DeAndre what seven seven?

Speaker 4 (31:31):
What?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Seven foot?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Boy? He's seven foot?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Okay, okay, okay, okay. Lacas Lega said, okay, you got
a little little presidents down now. He's not as bad
as the Ryan.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
What's the Ryan?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
You say you don't like? Oh for the Lakers, the
one you say was just tall for nothing?

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Man, you're talking about Lynn Alex lenn.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah he not, he not. I thought you said Alex
Hi was seven foot.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I didn't know start sorry, and this reached that high.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
So DeAndre DeAndre eighton is a is levels a bit.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
He's a he's a double double guy. You get your
fourteen and ten.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, the law presence, all right, you
give you fourteen ten, give you the double g.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
I should be highly highly motivated. He sees the money
that check Homer and back got. He sees the money
that they're paying bless excuse me.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
He sees the money that they just gave Miles Turner.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Bro, you're younger than Miles Turner.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, you go out there and play, you could end
up you could end up getting you a five year,
one hundred and seventy million dollar deal. Five yeah, it's
not too late, man. DeAndre Ayton can't be no more
than twenty six, twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Well, ain't never been in the lead for a little
minute now.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
DeAndre Aiden is twenty six years old, twenty about the
turn twenty. He turned twenty seven, so he's twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, And the motivation is getting
to that bag, especially if you sign him, when you
go out there and have a hell of a season
this year. Exactly, exactly, okay, exactly, I got you got
a lock in and focus. It ain't oh Joe, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
We gotta talk about something that you're gonna you're gonna
like this. Oh, there's a guy named Predo Hunter who
buys an abandoned story. You yay, found two of your
old he got two of your old storage units.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh Joe, take a look at that.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, this is red bottoms, baby, Christian Lubutans red bottoms.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
Kind of ugly but beautiful condition.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Damn what is this?

Speaker 6 (33:57):
John Varvatus got what else?

Speaker 3 (34:03):
We got?

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Gucci? Beautiful Gucci boots right there. This union might be
better than the other one.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
No, it's already looking better.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Than another one.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I'm loving this guys.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Look at this ride Bottoms Christian Blue bootsins. You guys
see him right there?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
D Bottoms another player.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
O my lordie lord, guys. Guys, guys, oh blee, oh
my god, check Johnson Bank crazy, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Look at these.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Soccer please, guys, look at these soccer please. These are
made at a kangaroo leather for sure, guys. Isn't probably
worn in the actual won't you sing? Or signed by
someone there? You guys see it Ronaldinho? I'm pretty do
you think that's Ronaldinho?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yo?

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Could these be Ronaldinho.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Signed? Whole lead Crump Grayce.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
These are all signatures by probably the whole team right there,
whole leaf Crump.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Look at that he's so high? Oh Joe, what how
you get that?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
That's my old storage from two thousand?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Is that in Miami or in Cincinnati?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
But that's Dyna Mammy all the way down on the
other end? Long, long, How do you get rid of
stuff that you don't want anymore? And that that was
the best way to do it, because I'm not holding
none of that stuff that's from like two thousand and four,
two thousand and five. I don't I don't dress like that.
That's that twenty twenty twenty year old late early thirties, Chad.

(35:55):
I'm about to be fifty. I ain't going the way
I ain't doing. Neighborhood? Do I look like?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Do I look like?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Do I like the person that's gonna take all that
stuff and take it?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
You left Chris Henry Jersey in there.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Not.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's that's the one that's signed by all my all
my teammates, My my real Chris Henry Jersey, the one
that he award that signed is here. Can you hear me? Yeah,
My Chris Henry Jersey is here. That's that's Chris Henry Jersey,
signed by all all my teammates that that played with hell.

(36:33):
I got all that, I got all them foods on
goddamn group chat.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
So you ain't gona you ain't gonna get it back.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I don't want none of that. I've start here. This
is how I live my life, right, Stay with me,
real quick, chat, y'all, stay here real quick. We have
I live life in two parts like a stage play.
Act one, football clothes, fashion, all that, all that fun
stuff them is long gone.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I feel you.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'm talking about long gone. Step two, Act two, New Life,
New house, new beginnings, transition from all that old ship
and the new stuff. I'm not taking nothing from the past,
and to act too, none of it. So what's the

(37:23):
best way to get rid of it? Man? Be happy.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I don't like nobody digging through my stuff though.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
It ain't my stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
No, it ain't no more, no more.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I don't want it. That's why, man, What.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Did it find some What if they find some skid
marked draws up in there?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Why would I have skid mark draws? I used dude wipes,
y'all use I used duet and I got I got
a bidet, A bidet? Did I say that right? A bedet? Huh?
But okay, okay, my bad, my bad.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
No.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
No, But but on a serious note, it was so
much stuff. It's just it couldn't go with me, not
where I'm trying to go. I can't bring that. No,
I can't bring Yeah, I can't. I couldn't. I'm glad
young Bull is happy.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Man.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
You know, I'm all about giving. I'm I stay given.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I gonna get nothing. I ain't got no, I don't know,
I ain't got no story unit. I got all my
stuff here.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
See, I can't I don't see I don't see how
you do it. I don't see how you do that.
I don't see how you do it.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I can't Grandma house, it's at Atlanta, or it's here,
I can't do it. Listen here where I'm at now,
Well listen, let me. You know what I'm saying when
I talk about.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
New new beginnings. Yeah, I don't want nothing from back
then going where I'm headed now. Nick Daniel, all right.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
On't your it's time five? Final segment?

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Hey, no, no, no, no, let's stay on a little
bit more. I'm feeling good tonight.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Okay, you feeling good? So what you want to talk about?
You want to talk about your locker? I mean, what
if you're gonna find anything of value, really significant value.
If you're gonna find a rolex, you gonna find a
diamond ring, If you're gonna find some he's gonna find
twenty twenty K.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
And cash, it's storage. Nothing of value is in storage,
everything of value, everything of everything about question everything?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
When I sent you?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Did I send you something today that somebody found in
storage that was valuable?

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Know what you sent me?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Go back and look at your d MS and see
what I sent you with that guy found in storage?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Then I send it to you. What was it? Look
at your d Huh do you.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Know how long that thing is from a way from
like two thousand and seven? What that storage?

Speaker 1 (39:45):
No, I'm saying you said. People don't find nothing of value.
I sent you something in your DM, But somebody find
something real valuable in storage.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Hold on, let me see yeah, back up?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Okay, Oh my goodness, So are you anything of value
in there with Joe?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
A man finds seven point five million cash in the
five hundred No, that ain't.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Man just mayd five hundred dollars for a storage unit
sold by auctioneer Dan Dowson, only to discover a safe
stuff with seven point five million in cash. After word
got back to its original owner, they offered him one
point two to recover the funds. The buyer accepted, walking
away with one million, one hundred and ninety nine thousand,

(40:34):
five hundred dollars in profit.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I tell you again, Hey, I tell you. I'll tell
you what. Listen, that ain't clean, because ain't nobody with
no clean money gonna have it's sitting in storage. Let's
start there. Of course, it's a reason he gave it back.
Anybody in their right mind and giving up no, seven
seven million dollars for just one point two so you
already know they made that call and say hey we
need that back. That's a that's a whole different.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
But people not people find valuable stuff in there all
the time. I ain't. I ain't, no, I ain't know.
That ain't what I do.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
So I ain't no stories now, But people have found stuff,
not that kind of cash, but people have found thousand dollars,
they found valuable.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I mean, you got you.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Got you gotta think you got it. You got stuff.
I ain't play football. And how long how many years
it has been?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
You think? Uh, probably fifteen years probably.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
So that stuff been in there themn there fifteen years.
I ain't seen it. Ain't fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Man.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
I don't, I don't. I'm I'm good you the past.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I don't want you, don't want anything anything, Daniel, everything
about the red shoes.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
He listen you playing on clown in somebody with the
red shirt. I would I would clean I had. I
had a deal with lubaton back in the day, so
I used to get lubatons free. If you've been following
me on Twitter long enough, there was a time where
I gave away lubatons every week. It was either every
every Monday or the first of the first week of
every month. On Twitter, I had a day. I had

(42:03):
all kind of lubaton I ain't got some days, old man.
I got me a nice pair of air Force ones
like that. I got me some open toe sandals, and
I'm good all having a having four five hundred shoes.
I ain't, man. I'm a minimalist. Everything in this house
is all white. That's it. If it ain't white, ain't
coming there. If it ain't white, it ain't right.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Well, somebody got something of mind. They the lady that
used to do to do by what the color that
clean for me? I left everything I left. I say, Blanca,
her and a friend named Vicky. They used to clean.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
I say whatever, I say, whatever you want, you can take.
What you don't take got to go to the trash.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Mm hmm. She's like, mister Shannon, you let me.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Have all this, I said, all the bedroom stuff, all
the dieing net stuff, whatever you want, you take it.
All glass, marble, all white, custom. I have custom white furniture. Oh,
I had that purnature since nineteen ninety two. I pay
thirty grand for it in ninety two.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yes, you paid what how much.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Thirty grand for that white couch?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
What in nineteen ninety two?

Speaker 2 (43:14):
In ninety two? Oh what the hell?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
I kind of furnished it.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
That was custom. The people that made it. They stamped,
they stamped it on the bottom of it. So she
got the she got the slave bed, she got the glass,
marble table, she got the big man. I had a
uh you know that big that big guy that when
we ate that ate that man that thing so much,

(43:39):
I said, I told her, I said, Blanco, don't you
hurt yourself trying to have some I said, you need
about five or six men. There's nothing else to do
it to move that table, that table, the glass is
that thit right? And the bottom man oh yo? I
end up had to get an ample duor man. I
tried to lift that table myself and blew my back out.

(44:01):
I know y'all in the chat tell about pause, But man,
oh yo, I lifted, oh cho, I lifted like this.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Here's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
You ain't been your knees.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
All I know.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
All I know is like a like a week later,
I was I was face down getting enough a duor.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Never again. That was the last.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
That was the last time I ever tried to move anything.
If it ain't no, if it ain't hung, no hangles,
no no shirts. I ain't move with nothing. I'm paying.
I paid. I'm gonna pay somebody to come in here.
They're gonna fold it up, they're gonna put it nice
and meat, and they're gonna ride on the box what
it is. And then they're gonna say, hey, mister Sharp,

(44:48):
this is such and such. Where would you like this? Upstairs?
Downstairs right to see you?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
See how you You did everything yourself?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
I did.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I did everything me.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Come. I ain't doing nothing myself. I ain't moving out.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
I'm saying how you had people? You know, people do
the boxes and yeah, hey, young When I when I
came to this, this this is all white castle. You
get all this on my own. I packed the boxes,
I wrote everything on there, I got the U haul
I put I drove the man. Listen, oh man, I said, man,

(45:25):
how long is.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
It gonna take you?

Speaker 1 (45:26):
I said, how long is it gonna take y'all to
get there? I said you, I said, you ain't going
that far, Say mister Sharp, we can we can be
there and a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I said, can you make it a day and a half.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
For the right price?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Man, I stayed in the hotel. H she had it.
A couple of her girlfriends sought up everything.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I got you right, yeah, yeah, But I don't know
no man, Like I said I had, I had a
I don't know the other stuff I had has, like
some football cards and stuff and stories, but I ain't
really ever had anything. I still got my my college
shoulder pads.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I still got those.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
They're up under the garage, on the bag that it
actually came in, you know, Coach, they end up giving that.
I'm very sentimental, lo Jo.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
See.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
See that's the difference between me and you. Remember I
told you not too long ago, I don't have no memorabilia.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
When I am done with the game of football and
it passes on and it's no longer, I don't care
about that stuff anymore, it's of no value to me.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
No.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I got that. That's the way I've always been.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
I told the story about how my mom brought us
those white blazers, me and my brother that white See
the blazers looking like John Tabalta in Saturday Night people.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
I still got it. Still got the burg and the
shirt to go long with it.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I still got overalls that I took when I was
they took a picture of me. I was sitting in
a cardboard box, right, I still got it. I got
a little jacket that when I was like six, I
still got it.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Yeah, I'm not like that. I'm not like that at all.
I never had been. I think my grandma was, my
mama was my little brother. I'm not sure I'm calling
my little brother. He's thirty something now. I'm just not
like that. I just when the game, when the game,
when it when it's gone and it's passing me by.
Like my grandma used to tell me, when I got in.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Trouble, my grandmother held everything.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
I washed my hands. I'm good now.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
I was.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
I was at piece.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I was at piece.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
I'm good now. If I could find that goddamn jacket
I put on, that Hall of Fame jacket, that it
might be in there, because I've been looking for it
for years. I've been looking for it for damn for years,
since that damn game when them fans got it and
don't want to get it to me.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Well, look the only thing that I'm missing is that
my brother got me a row lex a two tam
or two tone roles for my graduation.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
So if somebody find it in a pawnshop.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
It says, uh, congratulations, I'm proud of you, sharing a
big bro Sterle. If y'all see that out there, y'all
get it to me. I got something for y'all. H
it's a it's a it's on a jubilee bracelet. It's
two tone, go down the middle. Yeah, but y'all know
it's me and how many Shannon Sterle.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Does you know? Yeah, you're right, you're right, but uh,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
In the process of moving o choke, I lost it
and I don't and everything that my brother's ever given
my sister, like my sister give me silver dollars for
washing the dishes my brother gave me. Well, I told you,
my brother cut me on my leg and he paid
me like five dollars not to tell.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
I still got it. I still got it. I got it.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I got a uh uh I could Susan b Anthony
dogars Oo. Yeah that X gave me back in nineteen
ninety six. I still got it.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
That what you do? You got you gotta listen, you
got you gotta let ma'a. But you you're different.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
You.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
You you love the cinema, cinema sentimental value of things.
I just don't. And I've I've always and it's funny,
I've always been like that, like once once, once a time, or.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I just that's why say, if somebody give me, somebody
give me something, I can't.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I can't, man, I'm not like that. That's why it's
so easy for me.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Let me take that back. Let me take that back.
Let me take that back, let me take that back.
I can't. I have, I have, but I still have
a lot. I'll talk about a lot of a lot
of stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah, hey, you know what, that's why, that's why it's
so easy for me to detach. You see what you see?
You see how not only can I treat with other
people everybody see, oh my god, he found your story.
You unit, it's so many valuables. She ain't value to me.

(50:03):
It's not valuable to me. It's not value to me anymore.
So the same way I can detach from that or
stuff that people feel is valuable, in the same way
I detach from people that are closest to me. That
wrong you Okay, Hey, I'm talking about, I would detach

(50:23):
quick and don't even say, oh that's what okay, good,
I'm gone, I'm out clean easy. So if you think, listen,
if I if I would leave you and don't care
you think the kid some shoes and clothes and and
and I don't man by that ship next and keep

(50:46):
it moving all right?

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Time five, final segment, But evening it's time for Q
and a damn time with by fast.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
See what see what happened with having a good time,
good conversation.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
It must be what you call it must be football
season around the corner.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
That's how it happened.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Me.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Doc Ktie o Selma said, Oh, do you think you
guys would have repeeded if you won the Super Bowl
in ninety six?

Speaker 2 (51:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I mean it takes it takes a toad on you.
Injuries start to pile up because you're playing. I mean, oh, Joe,
you know back then, you know, it wasn't like it
is now. It wasn't no protection afforded the players. It
wasn't no protection reforded to the receivers and the tight
end and the quarterbacks. You could blind side block somebody.
It just take too much out of you I'm not
gonna say, oh, yeah, we just repeed it. There's a

(51:37):
reason why nobody's ever done it. Think about it. They've
been playing super Bowls in sixty or sixty six.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Nobody's ever done it. Hard.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Got close, Yeah, Chiefs so no Patriots too.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Now the Patriot. The Patriots didn't get back to the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Oh wait, they didn't.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
They didn't.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Okay, you're right. They showed it and they showed it,
and that's right.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Doctor Frank A.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Mbellaman said, hey, fam oh you talked about Ronnie Coleman
since he's been sick, wishing him all the best of
the speedy recovery.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yes, I'm glad he told the story.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
He had an infection, he ended up getting septist, and
his body started to shut down on him. Had he
not been as resilient as he is, as strong as
he is, because when you get septist, you know your
body starts fighting against himself.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
So it starts a start shutting down things.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Shut down your lungs and shut down your kidneys, is
shut down your livers, shut down your heart. And he
happened to have with one of his kids, daughters there
with him and they called nine one win. They were
able to get him in had he been by himself.
We're not We're not able to have this story. We're
not having this conversation about Ronnie being here. But yeah, Ronnie,
we wish you the absolute best, great dude. I've been

(52:56):
knowing Ronnie long, long before he became mister Limp, and
I can honestly say this about him.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
He you know, a lot of time you hear people say, well,
he ain't changed a bit, o Jo. He is the
exact same, yes, sir, the way he was.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
After he won them mster Olympian became the biggest bodybuilding
in the world. He was exactly like that before he
became mister He was humble, He talked, stopped, talked to everybody.
He's outstanding. I'm glad we had an opportunity to sit
down and he had to do that piece with him
last year.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I've always wanted didn't one with Phil J.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Cutler next on my list, But Ronnie has been the same,
and you know he's had a tough time of it.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
He has no.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Regrets anybody, and that's just not for show. If you
all ask him about regret. The only regret he told
me he had. He said, Shannon, I hate I him
squat that eight hundred pounds five times. All them back surgeries,
he got metal rods. I mean, hey, he held together
with with spit duct tape and let you and the

(54:08):
only regret he has, O Joe, he's a man. I
should have squatted that eight hundred pounds five times, eight hundred,
eight hundred. He started out as a powerlifter, right, so
he had very, very dense muscles. If that's why you
see the back and you see his hamstring, his glutes,

(54:28):
if you see that feathering, that's what they call where
you shredded like that.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
They call it feathering.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Look like lady fingers or look like feathers through his
his chain muscles, hamstrings, glutes.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
All that.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
But he said, that's the only regret I have. I
didn't squat that eight hundred pounds five times.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
It's crazy. That's strong man, damn.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Victorian Fox twenty one eighty seven.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Jamar gotta face Alexander Ramsey Ward two times a year.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
He liked that.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Now, I mean, hold yo away from He's not gonna
shy away from the competition.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
What's that? What's that?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Suppoed to mean? You mean they gotta face him. You
you you you you structured the sentence the wrong way.
They gotta face him, get it right now.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
He him chased that dude, he'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Leon Baks you you said he oh show.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Do you think if Lamar has another early playoff exit
in twenty twenty five, that is time to have a
real conversation in Baltimore? Labar has no more excuses. They
have a loaded roster and he's MVP.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Well they've always had a load of roster. What conversations?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, you have, No, they're looking to do a contract extension.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar Jackson at some point
in time becomes the highest play player. He jumps over.
He pulled votes over up in Buffalo. Yeah, joby.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
I mean to have a conversation about you can have
a conversation.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
The conversation is Lamar had gotten it done. But if
you're talking about having a conversation about Lamar moving on, man,
believe I'm gonna I will hang the phone up on
you and close the door of your face.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Hell no, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
I don't think. I don't think people understand when people
say stuff like that I don't. I don't think they
understand how difficult it is to find a quarterback, especially
a quarterback when, in conversation is top three in the
NFL and everybody else eight.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Lamar can't be no more than twenty seven. Twenty eight, man, please,
he's twenty eight. A conversation, Like I said, yes, we
can have a conversation, and we will if they don't
get to him win the Super Bowl this year, we'll
have a conversation that Lamar Jackson didn't get it done,
the Baltimore Ravens didn't get it done. But if we're
talking about any other type of conversation moving on from

(56:46):
Lamar Jackson, hell no, I'm gonna give I'm gonna give
Lamar Jackson every opportunity until I don't feel that we
can feel the team around him because his salary has
gotten so astronale. But no, hell no, lett Lamar go.
He one of the three best quarterbacks in the NFL.

(57:07):
You're talk about letting him go because he hadn't gotten
to the super Bowl, and he might not, but I
ain't letting him go. We we we we six seven
years away from that from having from having a discussion
that potentially Lamar somewhere else. But that's not even that's

(57:28):
not even in the Steve Bashad, the Consta or Ozzie
and John, that's not even in their mind.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
He's about to be the highest faid. What did Joash get?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
He about to get two hundred and sixty seventy million,
fully guaranteed. Nah, I ain't going no damn where. I
hope he like Baltimore because he ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
No time soon.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Uh tay t tuwave o Joe. What do the Ravens
have to do to get over the hump this season?

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Don't turn the ball over in the playoffs. That's it
simple as that.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
I don't need I don't need Lamar to have one
of those games where he throw for three hundred, he
rush four hundred. I just needed to be Lamar Jackson.
I don't need superman Lamar. I don't need the perfect
quarterback rating Lamar. I don't need the guy that that
the Hugh and joystick that he's running and hit the spin.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Lamar. Just take care of the football.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Is it simple as that?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
You have the playoffs around you at the running back position,
offensive line, tight ends, wide receivers, and you have a defense.
They're good enough. Just don't turn it over. That's all
they gotta do, is just don't turn it over. I
don't he's that good.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
He's good. He's gotten better every year.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Am I surprised that he's the Only thing that surprises
me is how well he's thrown the ball made. He
threw for forty one touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Forty one.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
If somebody would have told me, Shuanny, you know, and
within six seven years Lamar Jackson gonna throw for forty touchdown, say,
I don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Mm hmmm, based on the style of play coming.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Do I believe he can be a starting quarterback in
the NFL and they can win a lot of games. Yes,
because I say no, no, no, no, no. I saw what
he did. I saw what he did at Louisville.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Louisville.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yeah, the guy threw for thirty five through for thirty
five hundred yards, rush for fifteen hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Thousand. Yeah, no, no, no, he could play in the NFL.
He can play. But forty one touchdowns, Oh Joe, I
didn't see that.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
That's a lie.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Nobody saw that. Anybody tell you they saw that.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
They lie, because if they would have saw that, then
he took it with a number one overall pick. If
you saw that Lamar Jackson was gonna be a two
time league MVP finished.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Second or third time.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
And you say, well, he's gonna throw one year, you
gonna throw forty a half thirty six touchdowns with six picks,
and then he's gonna come back and throw another forty
one touchdowns with four picks.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
And guess what, By the.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Way, he's gonna rush for twelve hundred y you to
take it with a number one overall pick. And if
I'm not mistaken, Baker was the number one overall pick
that year and Josh Allen was number seven. You'd have
taken if somebody would have told you Lamar Jackson was
gonna be what he became.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
You taking number one overall.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Absolutely, you don't have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
The Ravens trade back into the first round to take
him at thirty two if you believe he's gonna everybody saying,
oh I knew that, No you didn't, No, you didn't,
because what he's doing nobody to no quarterback has ever
done that before. I mean a quarterback that could rush
for twelve hundred yards in the season and throw for
forty touchdowns in the season.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Nah, hold on, Manyan, don't forget he only threw four interceptions. Now, huh,
he only threw four interceptions.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Yeah, remember the year he won the MVP on Joe,
he threw thirty six touch the first touchdown he was unanimous.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
He threw thirty six and six.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
That's you know, that's the Aaron Rodgers in his prime
type numbers two and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
He's gonna give you seven hundred to a thousand yards
rushing Russian averaging eight nine yards of cliff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
That's crazy about who is that asked? If we need
to have a conversation. Shit about what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Prime oh Jalen Ivy said, Prime Adrian Peterson or prime
Ladanian Thomlinson.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Wow, now that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
That is a great one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
That's a good one. Again, it's all it's all on preference,
which is all on preference. That's what it come down.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I wasn't in the league with AP played. I got
a chance to see. I got a chance to see LT.
LT had in three seasons, LT had sixty nine touchdowns.
I saw LT rush for sixteen hundred yards. Check this out.

(01:01:47):
I saw LT rush for sixteen hundred yards. Yeah, have
one hundred catches and not make.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
The Pro Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
It's crazy. Y'all know LT had thirty one touchdowns of
the season, right, yep?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
I remember that year. That's the year we had.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Realize that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yeah, people don't see I don't think people realize how
good l T was. Y'all don't realize how good y'all
don't realize how good Ladani and Thomlinson was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
I do because I got a chance to see him
up closer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Personal, do your homework.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I saw him put two hundred plus yards rushing yards
on us and catch ten passes against us.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I saw that with my own two eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Ap different.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Oh lord.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Damn, that's not easy with at all day the two
different players different. I back workhorse, running back, but LT man.
How many touchdown LT got like one hundred and fifty something?
I mean LT got?

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I mean LT catch it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
LT, Hey listen, because Jerry got Jered got two o
eight and then I think it's Emmitt, and then it
might be like l T.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Or is it Randy?

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Because I think Randy got one fifty six, t O
got one fifty three?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Where's l T? L T?

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Got one hundred and forty five total touchdowns, right, Jesus Christ,
I don't I want.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
To see the guy that catch Jerry. That's what I
want to see.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I hope I'm allowed to see the guy that gets
two hundred and nine touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Hey, that what I want to see.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
O Jo, that's gonna be. I don't know what'll be
gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
So No, Ladani and Thomas got one hundred and sixty
two total touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
O Joe, that's third behind Emmett because because I think
Emmitt is next. But Jerry got two O eight. Jerry
got one hundred and ninety seven receiving touchdowns. Do y'all
know how many touchdowns that is? Jared got what two
O two or two eight? I think you got two eight?

(01:04:05):
Oh that's crazy, yeah two old seven yeah, two O seven. Okay,
M we gotta pick oh Joe, prime Agent Peterson, the LT.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Oh M.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I think I'm gonna take l T.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go all day then and
listen that that's what that's that's that's one of those
questions back you really you really can't go wrong regards
to who you pick. Again, it all comes down to preference.
I like, I personally like the fear that all day
Agent Peterson pussing defenses. Oh yeah, I personally like the

(01:04:53):
fear and you can see it. Don't nobody even't want
to come up and tackle man?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Baby?

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Do you know how many times I done saw that
man put his hand behind his head and flipped the
ball to the referee LTLT That.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Was the celebration right there, That was the celebration.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Yeah, man, I don't saw that so many times? How
many times he did that? As a matter of fact,
he broke the record against the Broncos. Mm hmmm, because
I think Priests has said it. Priest Holmes had set
the record with twenty eight lt Win got thirty one.
Do y'all know how many touchdown? Thirty one touchdowns was
in the season. Do y'all have any idea for a

(01:05:31):
running back?

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Hold on?

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
And that was in the sixteen game season. If I'm
not missing sixteen, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
You want to see? You wantee tight? Is?

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
What's up? What bro.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
All you did was jump up?

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
But they do twin He tired? Huh, you're tired. I
got to take him on, take him for a job
with me. See if you can see if you can run, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Way past your bedtime, Buddy, quintin Mobley or Mobley how
they say it? Because you know where I grew up at,
they call it Mobley, But I guess if you're from
the North, they say Mobley.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
But anyway, unkin Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Did y'all see one half flag football catcher by Bryce
and Wright?

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Listen? I even said, I even said, but that's probably
the greatest catch I had seen. And that was even
including the NFL catches. Then somebody said it's flag football.
They didn't even have pads on. Well, hell, when we
practiced during the week, they don't have pads on either

(01:06:51):
in the NFL. The flag doesn't change the game. It's
still football. It's still a great catch. That that was
the great man he went this way, Yeah, he went
the man stopped playing Man one. You're losing vision.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
You lose you know how you can't explain people that
doesn't catch balls for a living, how difficult something you
have to do?

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
That was nice? That was nice. That's up. There were
Brandon Lloyd.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
That's up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
They were Brandon Lloyd. That's up there with with with
with Odell Obi J's catch Man, Buddy said, man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Let me get this man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Oh, they fighting, they fighting? Get him? Teddy Bell? H
get him Teddy Bell? Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Calem said, hey, k O, Joe, are you taking Miami Bron,
Cleveland Bron, Lakers Bron? And when he retires will it
impact league?

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
The league can go on? Did the league stop? When
Jordan's stop? Magic Bird.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Will look? The league is gonna be in great shape.
Lebron has been a great ambassador. But it happens. Great
players retire. Tom Brady retired, Peyton Manning retired, Joe Montana retired,
and m Smith, John Elway, Marino, JJ Watt, Aaron Donald,

(01:08:30):
Lawrence Taylor, Joe Green. He's fine which Cleveland Bron, first
Cleveland Bron or second Cleveland Bron. Many people believe Miami
Bron was the apex of his powers. He was, and

(01:08:51):
it's hard to say because if you go back and
look at it, he's pretty much averaged the same thing
as you know, somewhere between twenty five and twenty seven
points a night. He could do it all, probably Miami Bron.

(01:09:15):
Probably Miami Bron. Thannos Thannos O Joe SJ nineteen ninety eight,
say what's up? Other No, Joe, who's your favorite superhero?

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
And why?

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Also, I've created my own comic. Is there a way
I can send it to you? Superhero Joe, what's your
favorite superhero?

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
And I got a problem. I don't watch I don't
watch Marvel or DC comics. Nah man, I never. Unfortunately,
I'm not into it. I only know who I know.
I know the name Thanos, not because of your dog,
but because when that movie came out, Infinity something, it dominated. Yeah,

(01:10:02):
it dominated my timeline. Then I knew about the Stones,
and I knew about Thano snapping his finger and and something.
And that's pretty much it. But I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeahtunate, yeah, dm Ash send it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
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