September 7, 2025 • 56 mins
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Bill Belichick being petty and not letting New England Patriots scouts at practice, Oregon dominates Oklahoma State 69-3, and Nick Sagan says the Big 10 has an edge over the SEC and much more!
1:03:45 - Saban on NIL giving Big 10 an edge over the SEC1:13:30 - AJ McCarron on Bama and NIL1:19:10 - Oregon dominates Oklahoma State01:24:05 - Bill Belichick and Patriots01:39:30 - Travis Hunter & the Jags1:42:45 - Phillies Karen video1:50:00 - Q & Ayyyyy
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Nick Saban claims NIL financial support has given the Big
Ten Conference a bit of an edge over the SEC.
Saban says, I think the SEC was the SEC because
of the culture in the South. There wasn't professional football
in the South for a long time and everybody related
to colleges. Well, now it doesn't matter. I mean, kids
grew up wanting to go to LSU, Alabama, Georgia got money.
(00:21):
Now they don't mind going to Ohio State, they don't
mind going to other places. So the geographic advantage that
the SEC Conference may have may be changing a little
bit now with a different culture, with NIL and money
involved in decision making, I think that's created a bit
of an edge for the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, I mean I've said it all the time on here.
NIL has even the plan for the plan the playing
field has for other schools, especially school that had boosters,
school boosters that have a lot of money. When you
have a lot of money, it gives you a better
chance to beat those that have been dominating, like the.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Alabama, especially if you gotta if you got a Michigan
where you got a Larry Ellison, who's the second richest
man in the world. So now you got so let's
just say, for the sake of argument, Oh, you know
the teams that we're talking about now, Stafford got a
bunch of boosters. Harvard got a bunch of boosters. But
they ain't trying to They tried a we got an
idea for AI. We gotta we developed a vaccine or
(01:23):
something to cure or treat cams or treat this. That's
what they're gonna invest their money in. But you got
a Michigan, you got an Ohio State, you got an
LSU or Texas A and m A Tech University of
Texas because they'm all a hey, you gotta stick a
hand way out.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Hey, they got deep pockets down.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
In Texas, and them the uiver in u G they
got deep you see Texas Tech. So them all barriers
down there, they got real deep pockets. So now you
got these teams that want to com They were always close.
O Joe, he say, hey, with a couple of dollars,
you can push us over the top. How much?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Right over the top. You know what's funny when you
think about it too, The Saudis, Yeah, the Saudis. You
see how they dip their hand in boxing. You see
what boxing. You see, the boxing is done. Certain fights
that would never probably never would have gotten created before,
are now being created. Could you imagine the Saudis dip
their hand in college.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Football, Well, they gotta have a vested interest in it, listen.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And invested in certain schools.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Man, come, Okay, but but he's right. I mean the South.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I mean because at the end of the day, if
you good, you're gonna go to the NFL anyway, So
I might will get about both five million before I go.
I can get instead of my instead of me waiting
three years old Joe to get mom, grandma, family out
of this situation.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I could do this at a seventeen eighteen year old, right.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And it don't matter where you go. If you can play,
if you can play, they're gonna find you.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You can pay your.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Uncle, you can be playing under rocks. If you can
play the game of football, they will.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And that's what happened. Coach Saban realized he didn't as
great as coach as he is. He doesn't the advantage
that he once possessed. He doesn't have it anymore. Coach
k Roy Williams, they realized the advantages that they once had. Okay, yeah,
(03:24):
not there. And and Michael Jordan's shoes ain't gonna cut it.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
No, you need more than that the peril Ojo.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Guy's getting four million, guy's getting four million dollars, three
million dollars. Can you imagine as a seventeen eighteen year
old old Joe man, if I only got a thousand.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Dollars a thousand at seventeen, give me, yes, you know
how much money seven at seventeen? You know how much
money five hundred dollars is back then when you ain't
had nothing?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah? I absolutely know?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So can you? Can you also? So imagine O Joe,
they give you twenty fifty thousand back then?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh lord that mercy man. Stop playing granted.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Don't buy no more BALLOONEA, don't buy no more hot dog,
don't buy no more lunch meat. Hey, number number, and
my homeboys say number quarterhouse steaks. Man, I tell my
homeboy out to eat.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
What time?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He said, let me get that quarterhouse steak. The server
looked at him, was like excuse me? He said, yeah,
let me get let me get that quarterhouse steak. Cook it. Well,
I'm like quarterhouse, I said, you mean porterhouse? Yeah, yeah,
that one. Hey he's saying it wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I look at that like quarterhouse.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Uh huh, speaking of it. Since you you're on the
topic of meat, I tried what you try that way goo.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
In fact like yah, like.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Now I see the difference. Now I see the difference.
And I had the way to explain to me. Now
I'm looking at the menu and I'm looking at the
price point of the steak and the difference in the
price point of the steak and the wagon, and it
gave me a better understanding. And then he explained how
the cows are massad get there and they take care,
they a certain certain type of diet. And then I asked, well,
(05:24):
does it really make that much of a difference based
does he broke They broke it down to me. Me
and the missing went to Prime one twelve when the
Prime went twelve in Miami. You know, I don't really
frequent restaurants like that, but I wanted the missions to
go went there, you know, and enjoyed ourselves. They gave
me a history lesson. They gave the history lesson on
the wagon, on why it costs, how you know what
(05:47):
it did.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So a lot of a lot of these farmers and
that they're like five generations. Therefore five generations, so they've
been doing this for an extremely long period of time.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
It's kind of like the farmers used to be.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But a lot of the farmers have sold their land off,
and because it used to be four or five six
generation farmers, it's getting really tough for farmers now.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Especially with the uh.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But oh Joe, you can definitely, you can definitely taste
it difference in that meat. It's like butter. It's like butter. Man,
y'all leave my homeboy talking about you talking about quarterhouse steak.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
He did it. So so we we we.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
A Whole Foods and I said, hey, man, see what
type of soup they got? Said man, they got a
chicken noodle, they got a tomato, they got mind strong,
and they got a broccoli and cheese.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Like mine.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I said, what you say, they got chicken noodle, they
got a he wouldn't even say. He didn't even try
to pronounce a good spotcho uh. He He's like, they
got they got broccoli and cheese, and they got mine strong.
I said, manstrong, I said, you mean mint STRONI yeah, yeah,
that what.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
He's like, Yeah, yeah, that's what they got. Man, Come on,
over here.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Man, Man, I was, man said he talking about come
on home, but get a battles on the floor.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
O Joe, he said, man.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He said, Man, these people looking at you. I said,
that should be looking at it. They should be looking
at you.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Hey, I ain't. I ain't never. I ain't never. I
ain't never heard of that. I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't know much about soup. If it's not clamm
lops of bisk uh, that's that's pretty chicken suit. That's
that's That's as far as I go. That's as much
as I'm not.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I'm not a real soup guy. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You know I noticed, you know, Tomato and the spot
cho and Minnestroni and all that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, I'm not a suit guy with Joe.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I don't really mess with chili because I already know
something bad gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, no, no, no, you gotta trush. No.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I don't got to try nothing in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Oh you you No, I won't. Oh no, oh your
your stomach can't hold that down?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Chili beans?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Ain't it hot? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
No? Man?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Okay, okay, okay, Hey, so you can't. You can't, you
can't have any dairy products either.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I got lact taed lack taed.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But you take you take before, like before you if
you're gonna have some dairy cheese, milk, butters something like that,
you take it before. But no I would. I would never,
even when I'm home by myself, No, never do it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I always take lack tad and I keep lack taed
on me.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, Oh Joe, Oregon dominates Cowboys after
Gundy pours gasoline on the fire on Monday. While speaking
on this radio show, Gundy said Organ is spending a
lot of money for their team, Saudi forty million as
the amount he believed the Ducks fent on.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Their roster last year.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
The week ended Organ handing Oklahoma State a sixty nine
to three loss, the worst in the Gundhi era and
the worst program has seen since nineteen oh seven. Landing
said postgame, it never requires extra motivation for an opportunity
to go out there and kick ass. But it never
hurts when somebody pours gasoline.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
On the fire.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Hey man, listen. And also, you know, it never hurts
when you have a forty million dollar roster either, which
was why you're able to score sixty points.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
What's what story? No, you didn't put it up? Oh
oh oh, I thought, okay, my bad.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
We go back. We'll go back to it. We'll go
back to it. As a matter of fact, let's go
back to it right now. O Joe I skipped over
store and J McCarron revealed this week that you look
at these other teams that have forty fifty million the NIL, Alabama.
I know this for a fact talking to multiple people
in the program. Alabama has less than twenty million in
their NIL. Know that helps Alabama from a recruiting standpoint.
(10:02):
In fact, Alabama has been Alabama, but h and people
go out there because they know they're gonna be able
to compete for a National champions here year in ye
out and you're gonna go into the NFL most likely
if you're supposed to do. If you start losing and
all those guys go away and now you can't pay
guys with other schools, auditioning out not hurts you even more.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You're not gonna have all those wide receivers lining up
to come to Alabama. You're not gonna have all those
running backs that you know the mark ingram you have
the Trent Richardson, and you have the Derrick Henry's, and
you have the Alvin Kamaras, and you have the Damien Harrison's,
and you have this one and that one, and the
TJ yelled and all the Nope, you're not.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
You're not gonna have all those dvs lining up. You're not.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
And the funny thing about it is not only you
have all those players, you have them willing to wait
their turn. Yes, yes, yes, not anymore. Wait how much
you got for me? Two million? Where I'm playing that
I ain't never been over there, but no money here,
and I gotta wait three years just for my turn
(11:11):
to get on the field, and I can get two
million to come down and play right now. Yeah, I'm
going hitting. I'm going hitting.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But think about it, all those receivers that they had
Alabama that waited their turn. You could say the same
thing about those Ohio state wide receivers because all those
guys waited their turn.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So the likelihood of somebody like man, please, hey, you
mean to tell me, somebody gonna give me two million
and I can go start, or I can be a
third wide receiver or a fourth wide receiver here, Nah,
bro I'm hey, Jameson Williams. He was at Ohio State,
couldn't crack it. So he's like, hey, let me go
(11:50):
on to Alabama. Let me go down here in Alabama here,
whether your top ten pick, top of you are, top her,
top pick. I don't know if he's top ten, but
I think he was, but I think he's a high
draft pick.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Same thing with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, you know Jamie Jamis has just
got paid a few minutes sto yep, three for eighty three,
eighty nine, eighty three something like that. Oh my goodness, yep,
right right, Hey, listen, boy, did you see cam it worked?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Cam who?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, Mayward it were Joe. They gave him an opportunity.
He can what incentives he gave. They gave him an
extra three million, right, three million, O Joe. He's making
fourteen to a half who to seventeen to half them?
Mother guy's twenty four, twenty eight, thirty thirty four forty.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But he got to be realistic. He's thirty, no, thirty six.
You know, it doesn't matter who you are.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm having for him.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Hey, that's three million more, and it's probably you know,
probably roster bonus every for every week that he's on
the active roster, he gets right, right, he gets a
quarter of a million.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Damn if he has you know, he has five sacks,
he gets another half a million. Yeah right, I mean
I look like I said, I mean, I think the
thing is is that he Uh, he's thirty six years
of age. He's been he's been great. He's been a captain,
he's been great in the community. Uh, he's been a
damn good football player. And he doesn't call. He doesn't calls.
(13:33):
He doesn't call the Steelers. You know, Mike Tomlin has
never had to worry about getting a call about Cam Hayward.
The Steelers have never had to worry about getting a
call about Cam Hayward. So hey, I'm happy. Uh, it's
probably not what he wanted. He probably wanted, you know,
twenty five to thirty million dollars. But like you said, oh, Joe,
(13:54):
at his age, you're asking an awful lot at that age.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You said twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yes, I'm saying at that age, Jojo, I'm saying at
that age. No, No, maybe if he had rolled the
dice said you know what, I'm gonna play this contract.
I don't worry about last year. Now he'd have been
a free agent.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So now I think even on the open market at
thirty six, he probably could approach twenty You think you
can get twenty two for twenty two for.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Forty two, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely for someone like that coming
from a historic franchise, the last name itself alone, Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
But listen that that that that that little three You
know what, we want you happy. We want to go
into the secret with everyone happy. We're gonna give you
this is no disrespect. He goes, we gon, we're gonna
give you peanuts.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But he feels good because he got something. He got
three million more than what was on the contract. And
plus he understands thirty six years of age. And the
last thing you want is to be a distraction going
into the season because you have your quarterback. Now, you
think you have a team good enough to compete in
the AFC North. You think you have a team that
(15:13):
can get to the playoffs. And so look, we don't
want we want all ceilingers go. We want to be
focused and go take care of the job ahead. The
story that we just started on Wayne Gundhy, He's the
head coach. He played at Oklahoma State, but he's the
(15:33):
head coach now.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
He said.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
The roster that Oregon trotes out there last year was
like forty million dollars, probably similar to what it is now.
And so he and Dan Lanning, who happens to be
the head coach at Oregon, have him back and forth.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
O Cho.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
They going back and forth, and Landing said in the
post game, it never requires extra motivation or for an
opportunity to go out and kick ass. But it never
hurts with somebody pours gasoline on the fire.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Not at all. Gundy gotta be careful.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You gotta be careful, Well, gotta be game, but they're
gonna get his ass up out of there.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Hingo that that too. But understand your personnel. Understand what
you have to work with before you talk trash about
a team like organ that you already know has a
forty million dollar roster and what you say, what you
what they had last year? Well, hell, if they had
it last year, I'm sure they got some dog coming
back there.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They guess what they want a national championship, so they
might got a little more.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Thank you. So does your team, do you have the
personnel to back up some of the trash talk.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
No, if you, if.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
You don't, you going through that game quietly so you
don't give the other team ammunition or the head coach
post game material. When you know, damn good and well
you're not gonna go in the and have a chance
to win. You got to be self aware as a coach.
It's all about self awareness as a coach.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It is somebody said it's like twenty three million, not
forty something similar to what Ohio State's playing.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Look, because they.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Don't have a cap on it, you can spend as
much as as much. It's an open market, so you'll
spend as much as the boosters are willing to put
in there. And whatever it takes to get a plan
like a Jeremile Smith or a player at whatever it
takes to get a Caleb Downs, who's your top ranked
safety who left the University of Alabama wants coach Saban left. Okay,
(17:24):
if that's what it takes to compete at this level,
I'm trying to compete. I'm trying to compete, and I
think that's what a lot of the coaches like, Look,
we got to put a cap on this thing. You
know what I'm saying, because if one team can spend
one hundred million and we you know, well, hey, it
is what it is. You have all your lum now
to give fifty dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It's so funny. It's so funny. The coaches or people
in positions of power want to put a cap on nil.
But they didn't want to put a cap on.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
How much coaches can make.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Coaches can make and how much universe because the university
can make off your likeness. But now the players getting
some money, now they want to put a cap on it.
Come on, now, come on now.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So it is a.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Sixty ninety three coach Gundy might be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Oh no, no, no, no, they're playing Oregon. Now they're
playing in organ.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh joe ya, don't give it. Damn who you playing?
That's Oklahoma State sixty ninety three.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Hey, the athletics director at Oklahoma State. No good and well,
brother Gundy's team stood no chance to get to Oregon.
Now you play someone of Let you know what, matter
of fact, how about this Florida lost to University of
South Florida.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We've been had his watch.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Okay, Now that's a game. If it was if it
was Gundy saying some things he said and lost to
a lesser team. Then, yes, losing organ. I don't see
you being on a hot seat for that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's not that losing the organ, o jo is sixty
nine to three. Losing the organ.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's not the loss.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You lose twentye you lose twenty seven to ten, you
lose thirty five, twenty one, nobody, Ojo. That's Oklahoma State.
That's sixty nine to three. Yeah, and plus he's finished.
I mean think about it. That program has not is
there's been some slippage in that program.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yes, yeah, you know you know why. It's slipper is right.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Well, he's not getting the level of talent that he
was got.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
We need money, yeah, we need what there is with
the Oklahoma State And I.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Think the thing is, I think the biggest booster, who
the stadium is named after, T Boom Pickings, passed away. Yeah,
so the money ain't free flowing like it once did.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well, whoever took over a T boom T boom pick.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We're not generous like him. We're not generous. We're not
generous like dad or or or grandpa or whatever the
case may be. And that's the thing that's that's you know,
everybody doesn't look at that school is the same way
that was his pride and joy.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Bill Belichick confirmed today O Joe following his first win
at North Carolina that scouts from New England Patriots do
not have access to the program. It's clear I'm not
working at their facility, so they're not working at hours,
Coach Belichick.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Really, Bill, let Bill, I'll ask you this.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Tell me the coach that's been fired that's coaching somewhere else,
that's allowed to come back to the facility that he
was fired at. You think Pete Carroll can go back
to the Seattle what coach has been fired I'm still
(21:07):
coaching and can come back to where they got fired from.
I don't think that. I if I get fired from
my job and I go get another job, they're gonna
allow me to come back in the building at the
job that I got fired from. It could they might
(21:29):
like me still, but I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Right, Wait, so you gotta, you gotta, you gotta give
me a little bit more here is there? Is there?
What is the reasoning for Bill not allowing he's bad?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
He's bad because he got fired? He said, he's not
allowed in New England, so they shouldn't be allowed there.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Okay, I like it, I like I like that level
of petty.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I like that level of petty. So you want to play,
want to play.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But I'll ask you a question. Name the coach.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I still haven't given me a scenario. So name the
coach that's been fired. So if if Marvin Lewis got
another job, do you believe he could go back to
Cincinnati while he's coaching another team? So you believe Marvin
while he was at Arizona State he could go back
to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Or Oakland, any one of them?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
No, No, what not?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Mm hmm. And that's a that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's that's a good one. Just thinking about it too,
coaches and positions like that that are coaching somewhere else,
I don't even think they would feel comfortable going back
to the place where they were fired.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
He's about he doesn't let it welcome, welcome, Yeah, unless.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Unless playing the game.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Hey, you don't. You don't like that level of petty,
Not Paddy, Now, coach's upset he's got fired. Let me
ask you a question, how many coaches you think coach
Belichick is fired. How many players has he cut?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Ooh, that's a good one. Hey, but what he's done
for the organization, you don't see why he would be upset.
You don't see why he be mad after twenty years
or what I get is six old champion. Who knows
how many AFC championships.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
He's not a federal job or Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's not a lifetime appointment.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You don't get to stay on the job forever if
you're not with Oh Joe, you know what's sports about us?
About winning?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And that was a bar too.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I have a note fat out of the road down.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Coach Belichick thinks, because you know what, I've been here
twenty years, I've won six super Bowls. If we've gone
to nine, I should be able to So even as
we lose, we continuously lose, with no hope on the horizon,
I should still be able because of what I've done.
Mister Craft says, I paid you for that. I was
paying you five, ten, fifteen, twenty million dollars a year.
(24:05):
So now I'm paying you based on what I believe
you can do, and I don't believe you can get
done what you need to get done because number twelve
is gone. And I listen to you when you told
me we should move off of twelve because he couldn't
do it anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Right, Mm, that's tough.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I just I'm just I'm just confused while he's why
he's surprised that. But guess what, when you're no longer coaching,
I believe you'll be able to go back coach.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Mm hmm. Yeah, absolutely. I mean they're gonna fix that though.
Whatever whatever Bill and mister Craft are going through, they're
going to fix that. They're gonna It won't be fixed
right now, but at some point they will make amends
because what they had was special. But they had was special,
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but they had twenty years.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Oh Joe, Yeah, yeah, So you want me to keep
so you want me to keep you on for another
five years with no I mean, and we're getting worse
mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
What you understand why they were worse? Yes, because until
you get that most important piece, that most important piece
to be able to build around it, that's exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
He led coach.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
He led mister Craft to believed that he could put
anybody in there and do what Brady did.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Oh you know, it doesn't work like that, Well, you
should tell him that you're right.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Sometimes the player is greater than the sum of all
of its parts. Coach Belichick knew that Coach Belichick wanted
to keep a reign in place. Coach Belichick. What Tom
wanted from Coach Belichick was validation. Coach Belichick knew that
in order to keep this thing running, I can't give
Bread any more credit that I give Richard Seymour any
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more credit than I give grownk any more credit than
I give them.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
That's how he kept control of it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And people like well, damn, I heard a key to
leave saying how Coach Belichick would ring Brady out.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I've heard you said, I've heard other guys.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's how he kept control because if he'll ream out
number one, everybody else will fall in line. He convinced
mister Craft that the Patriot way, the Patriot way was
Tom Brady. That's the Patriot way, Tom Brady, because they.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Still got that.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Say, they're still disciplined, they still do all the things,
and and nobody talked it doesn't matter, but what way
it is, you need a guy, and Tom Brady's don't
grow on trees. There's only been one Tom Brady Tree
and it's gone. So I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I don't know. I don't, I don't know. I really don't.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I don't get this because he's only he's only looking
at the bad He's only looking at he fired me.
He's not looking at the other years in which he
could have fired you for Spygate, or he could have
fired you for the Flaygate or a host of other instances.
But he's stuck by you.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I that's just me.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Every every everybody doesn't see things through that that prism. Clearly,
he's still upset about getting fired. You're not the first's
not the first grade. Coaches got look a lot of great.
Normally you see a Bill Walshed step aside.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You see uh.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Lombardi steps aside, and then he uh he retires and
then he goes and coaches Washington. Normally, guys that Chuck
Noll steps aside, go I'm done. So Normally, guys that
win at that level, they don't really get fired. They
step away. You see guys that's won three more championships
like Jimmy Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson got fired. That's an anomaly.
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Chuck no won four, He stepped aside, uh coach Shuler
one two stepped the side, Bill Walsh one three stepped
the side. So normally when guys, you know, win three four,
Uh Mike, Mike won two of mister bowling. And then
I like they weren't getting any better. They they were,
they were spinning their wheels.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
But see those those those coaches, they knew in the fold.
They they understood the chances. You look at the landscape
of the of the team, what you have coming back,
what's leaving? You knew in the fold. Sean Payton, he knew,
he knew in the least.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yes, he knew.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Here here he saw the writing on the wall ahead
of time.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
We're over the cab. Drew Reed is done. The everything's
getting old. Let me get up out of here.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I gotta go, I gotta go. It's all about foreseeing
foreseeing the future again. That's all a part of self awareness.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Uh An unnamed the unc athletics source told The Boston Herald,
why would we let them in our home after how
he's been treated since he left. We will help our
players being treated fairly as a two way street, a
two way street for whom how I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Just trying to figure out how has he been treated?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Because normally, oh Joe, when you get fired from a job,
they don't just let you arbitrarily just come back anytime, right,
I don't know. I look, like I said, I hadn't
been on a whole lot of jobs. But I mean
when I got let go at Fox, you know, I'm
pretty sure my my my ID badge didn't work anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And then and then why why would I be there?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Who goes back? I mean who gets fired?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Chat y'all y'all can help me out because I've really
never really had a nine to five, so I wouldn't know.
So if you get a nine to five and you
get fired, y'all trying to go back to your job
and hang out with your coworkers.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Hey, man, what's going man? What you doing here? O?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Man? I thought they fired you last week? Yeah, man,
I just come to hang out with y'all. If that
what happened, Chad, y'all help me out, Chad, because like
I said, I've I've never had a nine to five,
but I wouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Man, you have to think of you have to think
about it all the things. If you have to, you
have to be able to see from view from from
Bill's viewpoint, see it from the lenses in which Bill
sees it at You know, you see it one way,
but he sees it another, which is why he's doing it.
So obviously feel he feels some type of way about it.
We don't have all the information on why he feels
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that way, but he does because he's actually doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh Joe, we talk about this all the time.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
The greater, the accomplished player, the person is the bigger ego.
Oh Joe, they fired a man that won't fixed super bowls.
Do you know what that does to your ego? Yes,
imagine Tom Brady how he feel. You're tried to You're
rid of me a few years earlier and now after
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everything that I've done.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So how much Tom Brady have felt coach?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I mean, damn, so you wanted to stay on forever
even after you're winning nothing so even so, No, the
thing about sports is not lifetime achievement. It's an update
your resume. You've done everything. He is a six times
super Bowl winning coach, he is a Coach of the Year,
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he's a this or whatever you want to call it.
He is the most accomplished coach in NFL history.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
He's that. You can't take that away from him, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
But if I'm still paying you fifteen twenty million dollars
a year, there's an expectation I have for you to win.
I'm not paying you fifteen or twenty based on what
you've done. I'm paying you fifteen twenty based on what
I believe you'll do. I've already paid you for those
Super bowls, Ocho. So how long?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
How long must I pay someone for something that they've
already done?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah? Yeah that.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Once, Once you don't have that quarterback, man, it becomes
that much more difficult, Yes, becomes that much more diffence
coach and coach.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Look, he's great these defenses and what he was able
to help Tom do, saying Tom, if you're in this formation,
this is where you're vulnerable. If you did this, this
is what I would do, This is what I think
they'll do. It was a great It was a match
made in heaven for twenty years. Yeah, A lot of
marriages don't last that long, O Joe. A lot of
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marriages don't, Tom. They're in a whole lot of coaches
that would have allowed a great player quarterback, would allowed
the head coach. A lot of head coaches wouldn't even
have the audacity or the gumption to even speak to
a quarterback like that, at least not in front of
the team. Now, maybe they gonna call him in his office.
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Maybe you undress or dressed down the quarterback. Okay, but
not in front of the team. Tom allowed that to happen.
He took it. He gritted his teeth, and he bit
his lip.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
He understood though, he understood, He understood why, he understood why.
It shocked me saying it. That's first ay, first met.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Maybe there were some things that were said. Maybe there
was some things that were said, O Joe that we
don't know about. But I don't believe like I said,
and like you said, Ojoe, we don't know. All all
I know is that he was relieved of his duty.
They agreed to go their separate ways. Normally one person
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has to initiate that, because it's hard for me to
believe that we sitting down at the exact same time
it says, I think we should go on separate ways.
He say that, I say that it's like a divorce.
We've decided to go our separate ways. No, somebody decided
that they're gonna go to a separate way, and I agreed, Okay,
we'll do that. We'll save faith and will issue a
joint statement since we're.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Going our separate ways.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's tough because of you're never gonna see a run
like this again. Oh y'all, Oh you're not gonna see
a run like this.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
M hmm. The closest, the closest thing to it is
down there in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But as the closest, that means Andy would have to
stay on another twelve years just to reach that. You
think Andy Reid got twelve years in it and it's
damn near's seventy.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, so you gotta understand coach Beller, how how how
young coach Belichick was when he got the job.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I just look, it was a great situation. Nothing lasts forever,
But I just wish they could put this behind them.
Coach mister Craft is gonna put a statue out there
once he's done coaching.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, he said it. I believe him.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
He's gonna be one of the two players, two men
from the organization that that have a statue.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's just I think it's petty. That's just me.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
The Jags are planning on for Travis Hunter to be
an every down wide receiver and a situational corner tomorrow
of the regular season open against the Carolina Panthers, Jackson
initially would determine on a usage on a week two
week basis, O Cho, Are you surprised that this is
the proach and they're taking.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Absolutely not, because the higher ups, the coaches, they understand
he wouldn't be able to do it every play. He
wouldn't be able to do it, but he can play
receiver full time and then be using packages on third down.
I'm excited. I'm excited for him. I'm excited for the
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Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm excited for Trepa. Lawrence to bounce back,
to get back to what we know we can do.
A phenomenal thrower of the football. Him and Brian excuse me,
him and Brian Thomas Jr. Had a phenomenal season last year.
Now you add an additional weapon with Travis Hunter. Oh,
they're gonna be nice. They should be nice. Like it
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looks nice on paper, but you got to go out
there and play. I'm excited to see Travis Hunt on
the other side of the ball. It's a different ball
game now. No, it's a game of inches. You got
to be on point every single time time you step
out there on the field defensively. And then injuries, you
got to stay here with the baby. You got to
stay health.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, I mean it's a lot, man.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That was the time on Joe Hey, when the defense
on the field, that was the time for me to decompress,
to take my bath.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And yeah, yeah, you get, you get to reset, you get,
you get to reset and prepare yourself mentally for the
next offensive series. He take it on the lot. But
if there's anybody that can do it, I would love
I would love. I would love to see him do it.
Doing it at the college level is one thing. Doing
it at the NFL level it's a whole nother ball.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Doing it, Like we both believe, he can do it periodically,
but he wants to do it full time like he
did it in college. So he wants to play sixty
five seventy players on offense, sixty five seventy plays on defense.
That's where I that's where I think the problem comes in.
But Hey, I'm all, I'm all lives. I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Mm hmm yeah absolutely can you can you imagine the
Jaguars playing the Bengals, right, and he playing receiver full time.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Dealing with dealing with Higgains, dealing with Chase, with.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Chase, and then having the flip size and then go
play man. Come on, boy, you know the kind of
energy you got to exert when you're playing these receivers
at this left.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
The mental energy also, not just the physical energy.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah yeah, because listen, it's a mental game the beginning,
it's to begin with. But I like it. I'm happy
for him. I mean, listen, I'm locked in. I'm in Chicago,
I'm at the draft Kings at the sports book tomorrow.
You connected to Wriggley feel they got it so big?
Every game I got, I got access to every game. Oh,
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this is gonna be nice.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh Joe, have you seen hold on n play Titans?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all for the lose yea.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
O Joe, have you seen the Phillies Karen video? Take
a look at this video, yo, let me know what
you think. Oh Joe, they hit a honk. We got
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another video, that's.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
It is she running after the man with the ball?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Oh Joe, what happened? They hit the home run? The
ball is on the ground.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
He leaves this section, he go picks the ball up,
he brings it back and gives it what looks like
his son.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
She said he took the ball out of her hand.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
If I'm hearing the video correctly what they're recording, they say,
you took She didn't have the ball.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
He reached down and picked the ball up off the
the off the floor.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
She didn't have the ball before her. He got that
before basically right.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I can see if he took it out of her hands.
I can see if he took it out of a
kid's hand.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
The ball was on the floor. Huh, he didn't take it.
He was awful nice to just give it to it
like I don't. I don't want to know, ma'am. Just
because that's not his section, that doesn't mean he can't
go get to retrieve a ball.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
She like. She felt like she was entitled to it
because it was in her It was in her section.
So let me the question that I have.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
If somebody else from her section would have gotten the ball,
would she have felt obligated?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Hmm? Well, the fact that she felt obligated and didn't
get there fast enough. You snooze, you lose. When a
home run is hit on it's the first person that gets. Yes.
That's always been the room. Yes, that's always been a rule.
I don't I don't attend many baseball games. When I
do see a home run hit, I see everybody running
to that goddamn ball. When people play in San Francisco
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and they hit a home run, yeah, because he's cold,
Yes with ball.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yes, and a whole lot of people have been hitting
in the cove since Barry left. But yes, you're absolutely right,
And it's the first a and everybody out there in
the little kanyaktion trying to get the ball. Okay, if
they hit the ball, Oh, Joe, you and your kayak.
I dive in that water and I get the ball.
Don't be till about this ain't your section. The hell,
I don't care whose section it is. I dovever the water.
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I got this ball, Damn you, I got that first.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, the guy's a lot nicer than a lot of
people would have a lot of people would have told
that lady to forget you.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I ain't giving you jack.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Oh Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
That's cool. I wouldn't have gave it nothing. I ain't
gonna even lie.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
That's my son. I got that ball for my son
right now, he did. I think he got a sign
back I saw. I think I saw somebody saying he goes,
he gonna get the he gonna fly the family to
the World Series.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Hm hmm, okay, I like to see. That's a that's
a good thing about videos when they some of the
players from the team, they see what happens and they
get in touch with the fan. And then you give it,
you get something better. You get to meet the player,
you get back, you get a glove, you get a ball,
and you get more access. That's even better. So all
she got now is the ball. And now they got
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even to.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Ask your question. O, Yo, tell me chance. Let me
know what y'all think. What do you think the chances
are that lady was gonna dive on that ball in
a scrum and try to get it. Now, that's normally
what guys do. Guys dive into the scrum and and
and bust their head or jump over somebody or spell
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their beer. We seeing guys trying to catch Hey, they
got the baby in one hand, got the baby in
a sling, got a beer in one hand.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
They catch the ball.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Guys do dumb guys do stuff like that. I ain't
saying I haven't seen, not to say it hadn't happened.
I just haven't seen a mom trying to catch a
ball while she holding the baby. They're ball like more protective.
They're like, ooh, don't don't hit my baby. Guy's like, hey,
I'm gonna catch this ball. He wasn't going to jump
on that pavement, messer needs up, messer clothes up, trying
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to get a baseball. She just thought it was easy
because it wasn't a whole lot of people in that area.
And he just ran over. He I'll picked the ball up,
got the ball head up, gave it to his son.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
I was like, oh yeah, baby, just because you paid
for it, don't mean you're entitled to catch a file ball.
Oh Joe, you don't mean that you're tired to get
a home run ball just cause you in that section.
If somebody beat you, come So what happened? The ball
trickles down in lands in your section, But trickles died
and goes in somebody else section. Then what you said, Well,
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the ball landed in my section, but you didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Now, you're not obligating, not obligated. He's not obligated to
it because you couldn't get to it.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
If they wanted they want, if they want to get
correct because you are a woman, then be grateful for that.
But if they don't, they're not obligated.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
To the show.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I guess you felt like, well, I paid for this
ticket and it's landed in my spot, and you was
faster than I was.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I didn't see if he took it out of my hand. Yeah,
that he didn't take it out of hand. Oh shoe
she told about you took it out of my hand.
That woman hand wasn't nowhere to Chad. Look at that,
Look at the video. He didn't take that.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Ball out of that lady's hand, not even close.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But I commend whoever gave him, whoever the Phillies player
that gave him that sign back.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Do we know who gave him a sign back?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I hope it was Swabber uh uh Bryce Harper, hope
Vader well a Bryce Harper, give him a sign back,
give him a sign back too, yeah, and a sign
Jersey get a kid something make him feel bad. You
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got a five dollar ball and caused all this commotion
because you felt entitled that you should have got the ball.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Mm hmmm, bad Lord, how about goods?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
But the guy, the guy even gave it a ball
and just like I don't want no problem, ma'am, I
don't want no problem.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
It's Lord. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
You know you know how you know who I met
when I when I landed the Cub. The cub must
be playing the Washington Nationals and one of the better
players that played for the Washington Nationals by the name
of Josh Bell. I met Josh Bell and his family
earlier today when I walked in or they was cool.
It was cool. Obviously they watched the show. They watched
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the show and they said they love it. They say,
you and I is very funny. Josh Bell very very
respectful to him, you know him and his family. But
it's really cool, really cool to meet him. And I
told him a story about how I almost played for
the Marlins in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Mm.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
He ain't believe me, but he should.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
All right, guys, we're gonna get you out here on
this when It's time for our final segment of the evening.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
It's time for Q and A. JJ. Carver said, is
that frozone?
Speaker 3 (46:34):
What frozone we talked about? You talk about trying to
trying to make fun of me.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Oh oh, you talking about and incredibles with uh Sabuela L. Jackson.
Where's my super su.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Oh okay, okay, I was cutting up the best he
unc You know, I'm standing at the risk Carson. They
gave they gave me this. They gave me this when
I came in.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Look gift a little gift bag. I told him I
was gonna put it on.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
So I'm not gonna put it on, you know, so boom,
I'm wearing it. So rich car everybody to real risk
cross down here Chicago. I appreciate you. See I got
got got got it on, I got it on.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Uh Damn Smell said, Bryce's under what is going to
be good? But he didn't play good tonight. But the
OC for Michigan called a terrible game. Way too conservative
on third down. You've got to got a quarterback that
has arm teller. Why not give him a chance to
make plays? I think I think if they could have
had got some thirty thirty shorts. It seemed like everything
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was kind of thirty long.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
And you don't make it that much.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
You don't want to. You don't want to do anything.
You don't want to, uh do anything to back your
offense up. But I think look for an eighteen year
old playing in a hostile environment, it's first gets first
road game, and it's in or Norman, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
I think it did okay, he'll be he'll be better
for it moving forward.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Uh of course at night cap faum love with fake
that stob is the answer for SeeU just because he
looked okay against Delaware, what game besides Baltimore excites you.
Uh No, but look, he looked better than the other
two guys did against than Delaware. It wasn't like he
was playing Delaware and they were playing Alabama or Georgia.
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They were playing to say, they were playing the same team.
And the question that I asked, did he look better
than the other two guys that were playing against Delaware?
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Now I'm sure prime are doing is due diligence. Time
obviously had enough confidence and to put him in the game.
So obviously he had like something that he had seen
doing OTA's training camp and during the week of practice
land him to say, Okay, so get in there, so
we'll see how this thing plays out. But right, well,
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I'm excited about all the games. I mean, the Commander's
played the Giants. We got some really we got some
really good matchups. Tomorrow the Packers play the Lions.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Lions.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we got some good matchups this weekend.
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Ms Q said, how great do you think BYU commit
fold some high school quarterback rider Lions can be I
don't know much about him. I'm not finna sit here
and Bulljavi you uh, I'll have to take a look
at him. We'll find out. I have to go back
and look at some YouTube videos and see what he
looks like. It's easy to say somebody's gonna be good
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or great, but you don't know until you get him
into your building and they put that uniform on.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, architect, nice TV. Thank you. Shannon.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
I said the same thing about Gramblin playing Ohio State today.
No point in playing for money. That football team itself
will never see just get embarrassed by fifty. It just
it's I mean, you got break by the time if
I give you a million dollars, O Joe, and you
gotta fly. You gotta fly seventy players up, and you
gotta bring the band, and you gotta feed them, and
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you got to put him up in the hotel.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
All of a sudden, not in a million dollars, no
more gone. Now it's gone.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
God, I need to win the lottery because I would
put the album for two years. I got y'all.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Kevin Norwood Jr. Uh My question is top four college quarterback?
You talking about this year or all time?
Speaker 1 (50:19):
All time?
Speaker 2 (50:20):
I'm putting Cam in there. Cam had the greatest season ever.
You go back and look at Cam and what he
did with the talent that he had around him.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, and in the SCC.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah, Uh, all time, man, I think you have to
put t Bow in there for the simple factor.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
What he did.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Dam Tebow, Damn who else started a bunch of games?
I think Baker, but think you have to throw Baker
Baker Mayfield might make my man, there's a lot of court.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Tommy Fraser. I'm putting Tommy Fraser in there.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
That's a good one back then, or they was hell
back then. Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Michael Michael said, Oh, Joe, Johnny, why is Stanford football
still around.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
They haven't been good in years. Always gets embarrassed. That's
you TV.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Look.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Look, I mean it's nice to you go to Stanford.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
You trying to be a doctor, You trying to do economics,
you're trying to be tech bro. I mean it's it's
not I mean, hey, it's nice. I mean, see Matt
gets to put that Stanford degree on his wall. But
and most players they go to Stanford ain't gonna play
in the NFL. They're not really going thinking about playing
(51:54):
in the NFL. They're going to start thinking about a startup.
They're thinking about being a financial guy. The they're thinking
about something that Google, Apple, Microsoft, That's what they're thinking. Oo.
Just let's just be honest.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yeah, football football is there their second or third priority
on football is mm hmm yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Uh, you go to you go to Stanford. You're not
majoring in eligibility? What did uh?
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Richard Sherman, Okay, Richard Sherman understanding he had the skill
set and the talent to play at the next level.
Very good. Christian McCaffrey understood, I have the I have
the skill set and the talent to play at the
next level. Outside of that are there any more?
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Oh Andrew Luck John.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
John Elway. Yes, no, very very very few, very few.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Uh oar Jim said, Hey, okay, I wish me happy birthday, Arjina,
Happy birthday. Hopefully you had a wonderful birthday. I don't
know if it was today, if it was yesterday or
tomorrow or today if you're on the East coast, but
happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Hopefully you did something fun.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Hopefully you're gonna do something fun and you're gonna get
an opporunity to spending with family, friends and love once
because that's what we should be doing on our birthday.
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I am unk, he's o cho.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Woh A full schedule of football Sun Morrow, Morrow.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
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to say, and got a really great gray, a really
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See tomorrow's ray Ray
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Nick Saban claims NIL financial support has given the Big
Ten Conference a bit of an edge over the SEC.
Saban says, I think the SEC was the SEC because
of the culture in the South. There wasn't professional football
in the South for a long time and everybody related
to colleges. Well, now it doesn't matter. I mean, kids
grew up wanting to go to LSU, Alabama, Georgia got money.
(00:21):
Now they don't mind going to Ohio State, they don't
mind going to other places. So the geographic advantage that
the SEC Conference may have may be changing a little
bit now with a different culture, with NIL and money
involved in decision making, I think that's created a bit
of an edge for the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, I mean I've said it all the time on here.
NIL has even the plan for the plan the playing
field has for other schools, especially school that had boosters,
school boosters that have a lot of money. When you
have a lot of money, it gives you a better
chance to beat those that have been dominating, like the.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Alabama, especially if you gotta if you got a Michigan
where you got a Larry Ellison, who's the second richest
man in the world. So now you got so let's
just say, for the sake of argument, Oh, you know
the teams that we're talking about now, Stafford got a
bunch of boosters. Harvard got a bunch of boosters. But
they ain't trying to They tried a we got an
idea for AI. We gotta we developed a vaccine or
(01:23):
something to cure or treat cams or treat this. That's
what they're gonna invest their money in. But you got
a Michigan, you got an Ohio State, you got an
LSU or Texas A and m A Tech University of
Texas because they'm all a hey, you gotta stick a
hand way out.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Hey, they got deep pockets down.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
In Texas, and them the uiver in u G they
got deep you see Texas Tech. So them all barriers
down there, they got real deep pockets. So now you
got these teams that want to com They were always close.
O Joe, he say, hey, with a couple of dollars,
you can push us over the top. How much?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Right over the top. You know what's funny when you
think about it too, The Saudis, Yeah, the Saudis. You
see how they dip their hand in boxing. You see
what boxing. You see, the boxing is done. Certain fights
that would never probably never would have gotten created before,
are now being created. Could you imagine the Saudis dip
their hand in college.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Football, Well, they gotta have a vested interest in it, listen.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And invested in certain schools.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Man, come, Okay, but but he's right. I mean the South.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I mean because at the end of the day, if
you good, you're gonna go to the NFL anyway, So
I might will get about both five million before I go.
I can get instead of my instead of me waiting
three years old Joe to get mom, grandma, family out
of this situation.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I could do this at a seventeen eighteen year old, right.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And it don't matter where you go. If you can play,
if you can play, they're gonna find you.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You can pay your.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Uncle, you can be playing under rocks. If you can
play the game of football, they will.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And that's what happened. Coach Saban realized he didn't as
great as coach as he is. He doesn't the advantage
that he once possessed. He doesn't have it anymore. Coach
k Roy Williams, they realized the advantages that they once had. Okay, yeah,
(03:24):
not there. And and Michael Jordan's shoes ain't gonna cut it.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
No, you need more than that the peril Ojo.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Guy's getting four million, guy's getting four million dollars, three
million dollars. Can you imagine as a seventeen eighteen year
old old Joe man, if I only got a thousand.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Dollars a thousand at seventeen, give me, yes, you know
how much money seven at seventeen? You know how much
money five hundred dollars is back then when you ain't
had nothing?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah? I absolutely know?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So can you? Can you also? So imagine O Joe,
they give you twenty fifty thousand back then?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh lord that mercy man. Stop playing granted.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Don't buy no more BALLOONEA, don't buy no more hot dog,
don't buy no more lunch meat. Hey, number number, and
my homeboys say number quarterhouse steaks. Man, I tell my
homeboy out to eat.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
What time?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He said, let me get that quarterhouse steak. The server
looked at him, was like excuse me? He said, yeah,
let me get let me get that quarterhouse steak. Cook it. Well,
I'm like quarterhouse, I said, you mean porterhouse? Yeah, yeah,
that one. Hey he's saying it wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I look at that like quarterhouse.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Uh huh, speaking of it. Since you you're on the
topic of meat, I tried what you try that way goo.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
In fact like yah, like.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Now I see the difference. Now I see the difference.
And I had the way to explain to me. Now
I'm looking at the menu and I'm looking at the
price point of the steak and the difference in the
price point of the steak and the wagon, and it
gave me a better understanding. And then he explained how
the cows are massad get there and they take care,
they a certain certain type of diet. And then I asked, well,
(05:24):
does it really make that much of a difference based
does he broke They broke it down to me. Me
and the missing went to Prime one twelve when the
Prime went twelve in Miami. You know, I don't really
frequent restaurants like that, but I wanted the missions to
go went there, you know, and enjoyed ourselves. They gave
me a history lesson. They gave the history lesson on
the wagon, on why it costs, how you know what
(05:47):
it did.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So a lot of a lot of these farmers and
that they're like five generations. Therefore five generations, so they've
been doing this for an extremely long period of time.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
It's kind of like the farmers used to be.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But a lot of the farmers have sold their land off,
and because it used to be four or five six
generation farmers, it's getting really tough for farmers now.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Especially with the uh.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But oh Joe, you can definitely, you can definitely taste
it difference in that meat. It's like butter. It's like butter. Man,
y'all leave my homeboy talking about you talking about quarterhouse steak.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
He did it. So so we we we.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
A Whole Foods and I said, hey, man, see what
type of soup they got? Said man, they got a
chicken noodle, they got a tomato, they got mind strong,
and they got a broccoli and cheese.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Like mine.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I said, what you say, they got chicken noodle, they
got a he wouldn't even say. He didn't even try
to pronounce a good spotcho uh. He He's like, they
got they got broccoli and cheese, and they got mine strong.
I said, manstrong, I said, you mean mint STRONI yeah, yeah,
that what.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
He's like, Yeah, yeah, that's what they got. Man, Come on,
over here.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Man, Man, I was, man said he talking about come
on home, but get a battles on the floor.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
O Joe, he said, man.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He said, Man, these people looking at you. I said,
that should be looking at it. They should be looking
at you.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Hey, I ain't. I ain't never. I ain't never. I
ain't never heard of that. I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't know much about soup. If it's not clamm
lops of bisk uh, that's that's pretty chicken suit. That's
that's That's as far as I go. That's as much
as I'm not.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I'm not a real soup guy. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You know I noticed, you know, Tomato and the spot
cho and Minnestroni and all that.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, I'm not a suit guy with Joe.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I don't really mess with chili because I already know
something bad gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, no, no, no, you gotta trush. No.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I don't got to try nothing in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Oh you you No, I won't. Oh no, oh your
your stomach can't hold that down?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Chili beans?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Ain't it hot? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
No? Man?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Okay, okay, okay, Hey, so you can't. You can't, you
can't have any dairy products either.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I got lact taed lack taed.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But you take you take before, like before you if
you're gonna have some dairy cheese, milk, butters something like that,
you take it before. But no I would. I would never,
even when I'm home by myself, No, never do it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I always take lack tad and I keep lack taed
on me.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, Oh Joe, Oregon dominates Cowboys after
Gundy pours gasoline on the fire on Monday. While speaking
on this radio show, Gundy said Organ is spending a
lot of money for their team, Saudi forty million as
the amount he believed the Ducks fent on.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Their roster last year.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
The week ended Organ handing Oklahoma State a sixty nine
to three loss, the worst in the Gundhi era and
the worst program has seen since nineteen oh seven. Landing
said postgame, it never requires extra motivation for an opportunity
to go out there and kick ass. But it never
hurts when somebody pours gasoline.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
On the fire.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Hey man, listen. And also, you know, it never hurts
when you have a forty million dollar roster either, which
was why you're able to score sixty points.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
What's what story? No, you didn't put it up? Oh
oh oh, I thought, okay, my bad.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
We go back. We'll go back to it. We'll go
back to it. As a matter of fact, let's go
back to it right now. O Joe I skipped over
store and J McCarron revealed this week that you look
at these other teams that have forty fifty million the NIL, Alabama.
I know this for a fact talking to multiple people
in the program. Alabama has less than twenty million in
their NIL. Know that helps Alabama from a recruiting standpoint.
(10:02):
In fact, Alabama has been Alabama, but h and people
go out there because they know they're gonna be able
to compete for a National champions here year in ye
out and you're gonna go into the NFL most likely
if you're supposed to do. If you start losing and
all those guys go away and now you can't pay
guys with other schools, auditioning out not hurts you even more.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
You're not gonna have all those wide receivers lining up
to come to Alabama. You're not gonna have all those
running backs that you know the mark ingram you have
the Trent Richardson, and you have the Derrick Henry's, and
you have the Alvin Kamaras, and you have the Damien Harrison's,
and you have this one and that one, and the
TJ yelled and all the Nope, you're not.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
You're not gonna have all those dvs lining up. You're not.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
And the funny thing about it is not only you
have all those players, you have them willing to wait
their turn. Yes, yes, yes, not anymore. Wait how much
you got for me? Two million? Where I'm playing that
I ain't never been over there, but no money here,
and I gotta wait three years just for my turn
(11:11):
to get on the field, and I can get two
million to come down and play right now. Yeah, I'm
going hitting. I'm going hitting.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But think about it, all those receivers that they had
Alabama that waited their turn. You could say the same
thing about those Ohio state wide receivers because all those
guys waited their turn.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So the likelihood of somebody like man, please, hey, you
mean to tell me, somebody gonna give me two million
and I can go start, or I can be a
third wide receiver or a fourth wide receiver here, Nah,
bro I'm hey, Jameson Williams. He was at Ohio State,
couldn't crack it. So he's like, hey, let me go
(11:50):
on to Alabama. Let me go down here in Alabama here,
whether your top ten pick, top of you are, top her,
top pick. I don't know if he's top ten, but
I think he was, but I think he's a high
draft pick.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Same thing with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, you know Jamie Jamis has just
got paid a few minutes sto yep, three for eighty three,
eighty nine, eighty three something like that. Oh my goodness, yep,
right right, Hey, listen, boy, did you see cam it worked?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Cam who?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, Mayward it were Joe. They gave him an opportunity.
He can what incentives he gave. They gave him an
extra three million, right, three million, O Joe. He's making
fourteen to a half who to seventeen to half them?
Mother guy's twenty four, twenty eight, thirty thirty four forty.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But he got to be realistic. He's thirty, no, thirty six.
You know, it doesn't matter who you are.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm having for him.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Hey, that's three million more, and it's probably you know,
probably roster bonus every for every week that he's on
the active roster, he gets right, right, he gets a
quarter of a million.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Damn if he has you know, he has five sacks,
he gets another half a million. Yeah right, I mean
I look like I said, I mean, I think the
thing is is that he Uh, he's thirty six years
of age. He's been he's been great. He's been a captain,
he's been great in the community. Uh, he's been a
damn good football player. And he doesn't call. He doesn't calls.
(13:33):
He doesn't call the Steelers. You know, Mike Tomlin has
never had to worry about getting a call about Cam Hayward.
The Steelers have never had to worry about getting a
call about Cam Hayward. So hey, I'm happy. Uh, it's
probably not what he wanted. He probably wanted, you know,
twenty five to thirty million dollars. But like you said, oh, Joe,
(13:54):
at his age, you're asking an awful lot at that age.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You said twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yes, I'm saying at that age, Jojo, I'm saying at
that age. No, No, maybe if he had rolled the
dice said you know what, I'm gonna play this contract.
I don't worry about last year. Now he'd have been
a free agent.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So now I think even on the open market at
thirty six, he probably could approach twenty You think you
can get twenty two for twenty two for.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Forty two, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely for someone like that coming
from a historic franchise, the last name itself alone, Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
But listen that that that that that little three You
know what, we want you happy. We want to go
into the secret with everyone happy. We're gonna give you
this is no disrespect. He goes, we gon, we're gonna
give you peanuts.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But he feels good because he got something. He got
three million more than what was on the contract. And
plus he understands thirty six years of age. And the
last thing you want is to be a distraction going
into the season because you have your quarterback. Now, you
think you have a team good enough to compete in
the AFC North. You think you have a team that
(15:13):
can get to the playoffs. And so look, we don't
want we want all ceilingers go. We want to be
focused and go take care of the job ahead. The
story that we just started on Wayne Gundhy, He's the
head coach. He played at Oklahoma State, but he's the
(15:33):
head coach now.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
He said.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
The roster that Oregon trotes out there last year was
like forty million dollars, probably similar to what it is now.
And so he and Dan Lanning, who happens to be
the head coach at Oregon, have him back and forth.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
O Cho.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
They going back and forth, and Landing said in the
post game, it never requires extra motivation or for an
opportunity to go out and kick ass. But it never
hurts with somebody pours gasoline on the fire.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Not at all. Gundy gotta be careful.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You gotta be careful, Well, gotta be game, but they're
gonna get his ass up out of there.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Hingo that that too. But understand your personnel. Understand what
you have to work with before you talk trash about
a team like organ that you already know has a
forty million dollar roster and what you say, what you
what they had last year? Well, hell, if they had
it last year, I'm sure they got some dog coming
back there.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They guess what they want a national championship, so they
might got a little more.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Thank you. So does your team, do you have the
personnel to back up some of the trash talk.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
No, if you, if.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
You don't, you going through that game quietly so you
don't give the other team ammunition or the head coach
post game material. When you know, damn good and well
you're not gonna go in the and have a chance
to win. You got to be self aware as a coach.
It's all about self awareness as a coach.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
It is somebody said it's like twenty three million, not
forty something similar to what Ohio State's playing.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Look, because they.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Don't have a cap on it, you can spend as
much as as much. It's an open market, so you'll
spend as much as the boosters are willing to put
in there. And whatever it takes to get a plan
like a Jeremile Smith or a player at whatever it
takes to get a Caleb Downs, who's your top ranked
safety who left the University of Alabama wants coach Saban left. Okay,
(17:24):
if that's what it takes to compete at this level,
I'm trying to compete. I'm trying to compete, and I
think that's what a lot of the coaches like, Look,
we got to put a cap on this thing. You
know what I'm saying, because if one team can spend
one hundred million and we you know, well, hey, it
is what it is. You have all your lum now
to give fifty dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It's so funny. It's so funny. The coaches or people
in positions of power want to put a cap on nil.
But they didn't want to put a cap on.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
How much coaches can make.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Coaches can make and how much universe because the university
can make off your likeness. But now the players getting
some money, now they want to put a cap on it.
Come on, now, come on now.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So it is a.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Sixty ninety three coach Gundy might be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Oh no, no, no, no, they're playing Oregon. Now they're
playing in organ.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh joe ya, don't give it. Damn who you playing?
That's Oklahoma State sixty ninety three.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Hey, the athletics director at Oklahoma State. No good and well,
brother Gundy's team stood no chance to get to Oregon.
Now you play someone of Let you know what, matter
of fact, how about this Florida lost to University of
South Florida.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We've been had his watch.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Okay, Now that's a game. If it was if it
was Gundy saying some things he said and lost to
a lesser team. Then, yes, losing organ. I don't see
you being on a hot seat for that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's not that losing the organ, o jo is sixty
nine to three. Losing the organ.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's not the loss.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You lose twentye you lose twenty seven to ten, you
lose thirty five, twenty one, nobody, Ojo. That's Oklahoma State.
That's sixty nine to three. Yeah, and plus he's finished.
I mean think about it. That program has not is
there's been some slippage in that program.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yes, yeah, you know you know why. It's slipper is right.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Well, he's not getting the level of talent that he
was got.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
We need money, yeah, we need what there is with
the Oklahoma State And I.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Think the thing is, I think the biggest booster, who
the stadium is named after, T Boom Pickings, passed away. Yeah,
so the money ain't free flowing like it once did.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well, whoever took over a T boom T boom pick.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We're not generous like him. We're not generous. We're not
generous like dad or or or grandpa or whatever the
case may be. And that's the thing that's that's you know,
everybody doesn't look at that school is the same way
that was his pride and joy.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Bill Belichick confirmed today O Joe following his first win
at North Carolina that scouts from New England Patriots do
not have access to the program. It's clear I'm not
working at their facility, so they're not working at hours,
Coach Belichick.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Really, Bill, let Bill, I'll ask you this.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Tell me the coach that's been fired that's coaching somewhere else,
that's allowed to come back to the facility that he
was fired at. You think Pete Carroll can go back
to the Seattle what coach has been fired I'm still
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coaching and can come back to where they got fired from.
I don't think that. I if I get fired from
my job and I go get another job, they're gonna
allow me to come back in the building at the
job that I got fired from. It could they might
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like me still, but I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Right, Wait, so you gotta, you gotta, you gotta give
me a little bit more here is there? Is there?
What is the reasoning for Bill not allowing he's bad?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
He's bad because he got fired? He said, he's not
allowed in New England, so they shouldn't be allowed there.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Okay, I like it, I like I like that level
of petty.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I like that level of petty. So you want to play,
want to play.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But I'll ask you a question. Name the coach.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I still haven't given me a scenario. So name the
coach that's been fired. So if if Marvin Lewis got
another job, do you believe he could go back to
Cincinnati while he's coaching another team? So you believe Marvin
while he was at Arizona State he could go back
to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Or Oakland, any one of them?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
No, No, what not?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Mm hmm. And that's a that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's that's a good one. Just thinking about it too,
coaches and positions like that that are coaching somewhere else,
I don't even think they would feel comfortable going back
to the place where they were fired.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
He's about he doesn't let it welcome, welcome, Yeah, unless.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Unless playing the game.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Hey, you don't. You don't like that level of petty,
Not Paddy, Now, coach's upset he's got fired. Let me
ask you a question, how many coaches you think coach
Belichick is fired. How many players has he cut?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Ooh, that's a good one. Hey, but what he's done
for the organization, you don't see why he would be upset.
You don't see why he be mad after twenty years
or what I get is six old champion. Who knows
how many AFC championships.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
He's not a federal job or Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's not a lifetime appointment.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You don't get to stay on the job forever if
you're not with Oh Joe, you know what's sports about us?
About winning?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And that was a bar too.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I have a note fat out of the road down.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Coach Belichick thinks, because you know what, I've been here
twenty years, I've won six super Bowls. If we've gone
to nine, I should be able to So even as
we lose, we continuously lose, with no hope on the horizon,
I should still be able because of what I've done.
Mister Craft says, I paid you for that. I was
paying you five, ten, fifteen, twenty million dollars a year.
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So now I'm paying you based on what I believe
you can do, and I don't believe you can get
done what you need to get done because number twelve
is gone. And I listen to you when you told
me we should move off of twelve because he couldn't
do it anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Right, Mm, that's tough.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I just I'm just I'm just confused while he's why
he's surprised that. But guess what, when you're no longer coaching,
I believe you'll be able to go back coach.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Mm hmm. Yeah, absolutely. I mean they're gonna fix that though.
Whatever whatever Bill and mister Craft are going through, they're
going to fix that. They're gonna It won't be fixed
right now, but at some point they will make amends
because what they had was special. But they had was special,
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but they had twenty years.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Oh Joe, Yeah, yeah, So you want me to keep
so you want me to keep you on for another
five years with no I mean, and we're getting worse
mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
What you understand why they were worse? Yes, because until
you get that most important piece, that most important piece
to be able to build around it, that's exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
He led coach.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
He led mister Craft to believed that he could put
anybody in there and do what Brady did.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Oh you know, it doesn't work like that, Well, you
should tell him that you're right.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Sometimes the player is greater than the sum of all
of its parts. Coach Belichick knew that Coach Belichick wanted
to keep a reign in place. Coach Belichick. What Tom
wanted from Coach Belichick was validation. Coach Belichick knew that
in order to keep this thing running, I can't give
Bread any more credit that I give Richard Seymour any
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more credit than I give grownk any more credit than
I give them.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
That's how he kept control of it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And people like well, damn, I heard a key to
leave saying how Coach Belichick would ring Brady out.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I've heard you said, I've heard other guys.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's how he kept control because if he'll ream out
number one, everybody else will fall in line. He convinced
mister Craft that the Patriot way, the Patriot way was
Tom Brady. That's the Patriot way, Tom Brady, because they.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Still got that.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Say, they're still disciplined, they still do all the things,
and and nobody talked it doesn't matter, but what way
it is, you need a guy, and Tom Brady's don't
grow on trees. There's only been one Tom Brady Tree
and it's gone. So I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I don't know. I don't, I don't know. I really don't.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I don't get this because he's only he's only looking
at the bad He's only looking at he fired me.
He's not looking at the other years in which he
could have fired you for Spygate, or he could have
fired you for the Flaygate or a host of other instances.
But he's stuck by you.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I that's just me.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Every every everybody doesn't see things through that that prism. Clearly,
he's still upset about getting fired. You're not the first's
not the first grade. Coaches got look a lot of great.
Normally you see a Bill Walshed step aside.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You see uh.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Lombardi steps aside, and then he uh he retires and
then he goes and coaches Washington. Normally, guys that Chuck
Noll steps aside, go I'm done. So Normally, guys that
win at that level, they don't really get fired. They
step away. You see guys that's won three more championships
like Jimmy Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson got fired. That's an anomaly.
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Chuck no won four, He stepped aside, uh coach Shuler
one two stepped the side, Bill Walsh one three stepped
the side. So normally when guys, you know, win three four,
Uh Mike, Mike won two of mister bowling. And then
I like they weren't getting any better. They they were,
they were spinning their wheels.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
But see those those those coaches, they knew in the fold.
They they understood the chances. You look at the landscape
of the of the team, what you have coming back,
what's leaving? You knew in the fold. Sean Payton, he knew,
he knew in the least.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yes, he knew.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Here here he saw the writing on the wall ahead
of time.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
We're over the cab. Drew Reed is done. The everything's
getting old. Let me get up out of here.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I gotta go, I gotta go. It's all about foreseeing
foreseeing the future again. That's all a part of self awareness.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Uh An unnamed the unc athletics source told The Boston Herald,
why would we let them in our home after how
he's been treated since he left. We will help our
players being treated fairly as a two way street, a
two way street for whom how I'm.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Just trying to figure out how has he been treated?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Because normally, oh Joe, when you get fired from a job,
they don't just let you arbitrarily just come back anytime, right,
I don't know. I look, like I said, I hadn't
been on a whole lot of jobs. But I mean
when I got let go at Fox, you know, I'm
pretty sure my my my ID badge didn't work anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And then and then why why would I be there?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Who goes back? I mean who gets fired?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Chat y'all y'all can help me out because I've really
never really had a nine to five, so I wouldn't know.
So if you get a nine to five and you
get fired, y'all trying to go back to your job
and hang out with your coworkers.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Hey, man, what's going man? What you doing here? O?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Man? I thought they fired you last week? Yeah, man,
I just come to hang out with y'all. If that
what happened, Chad, y'all help me out, Chad, because like
I said, I've I've never had a nine to five,
but I wouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Man, you have to think of you have to think
about it all the things. If you have to, you
have to be able to see from view from from
Bill's viewpoint, see it from the lenses in which Bill
sees it at You know, you see it one way,
but he sees it another, which is why he's doing it.
So obviously feel he feels some type of way about it.
We don't have all the information on why he feels
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that way, but he does because he's actually doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh Joe, we talk about this all the time.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
The greater, the accomplished player, the person is the bigger ego.
Oh Joe, they fired a man that won't fixed super bowls.
Do you know what that does to your ego? Yes,
imagine Tom Brady how he feel. You're tried to You're
rid of me a few years earlier and now after
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everything that I've done.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So how much Tom Brady have felt coach?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I mean, damn, so you wanted to stay on forever
even after you're winning nothing so even so, No, the
thing about sports is not lifetime achievement. It's an update
your resume. You've done everything. He is a six times
super Bowl winning coach, he is a Coach of the Year,
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he's a this or whatever you want to call it.
He is the most accomplished coach in NFL history.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
He's that. You can't take that away from him, O Joe.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
But if I'm still paying you fifteen twenty million dollars
a year, there's an expectation I have for you to win.
I'm not paying you fifteen or twenty based on what
you've done. I'm paying you fifteen twenty based on what
I believe you'll do. I've already paid you for those
Super bowls, Ocho. So how long?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
How long must I pay someone for something that they've
already done?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah? Yeah that.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Once, Once you don't have that quarterback, man, it becomes
that much more difficult, Yes, becomes that much more diffence
coach and coach.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Look, he's great these defenses and what he was able
to help Tom do, saying Tom, if you're in this formation,
this is where you're vulnerable. If you did this, this
is what I would do, This is what I think
they'll do. It was a great It was a match
made in heaven for twenty years. Yeah, A lot of
marriages don't last that long, O Joe. A lot of
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marriages don't, Tom. They're in a whole lot of coaches
that would have allowed a great player quarterback, would allowed
the head coach. A lot of head coaches wouldn't even
have the audacity or the gumption to even speak to
a quarterback like that, at least not in front of
the team. Now, maybe they gonna call him in his office.
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Maybe you undress or dressed down the quarterback. Okay, but
not in front of the team. Tom allowed that to happen.
He took it. He gritted his teeth, and he bit
his lip.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
He understood though, he understood, He understood why, he understood why.
It shocked me saying it. That's first ay, first met.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Maybe there were some things that were said. Maybe there
was some things that were said, O Joe that we
don't know about. But I don't believe like I said,
and like you said, Ojoe, we don't know. All all
I know is that he was relieved of his duty.
They agreed to go their separate ways. Normally one person
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has to initiate that, because it's hard for me to
believe that we sitting down at the exact same time
it says, I think we should go on separate ways.
He say that, I say that it's like a divorce.
We've decided to go our separate ways. No, somebody decided
that they're gonna go to a separate way, and I agreed, Okay,
we'll do that. We'll save faith and will issue a
joint statement since we're.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Going our separate ways.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's tough because of you're never gonna see a run
like this again. Oh y'all, Oh you're not gonna see
a run like this.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
M hmm. The closest, the closest thing to it is
down there in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But as the closest, that means Andy would have to
stay on another twelve years just to reach that. You
think Andy Reid got twelve years in it and it's
damn near's seventy.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, so you gotta understand coach Beller, how how how
young coach Belichick was when he got the job.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I just look, it was a great situation. Nothing lasts forever,
But I just wish they could put this behind them.
Coach mister Craft is gonna put a statue out there
once he's done coaching.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, he said it. I believe him.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
He's gonna be one of the two players, two men
from the organization that that have a statue.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's just I think it's petty. That's just me.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
The Jags are planning on for Travis Hunter to be
an every down wide receiver and a situational corner tomorrow
of the regular season open against the Carolina Panthers, Jackson
initially would determine on a usage on a week two
week basis, O Cho, Are you surprised that this is
the proach and they're taking.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Absolutely not, because the higher ups, the coaches, they understand
he wouldn't be able to do it every play. He
wouldn't be able to do it, but he can play
receiver full time and then be using packages on third down.
I'm excited. I'm excited for him. I'm excited for the
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Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm excited for Trepa. Lawrence to bounce back,
to get back to what we know we can do.
A phenomenal thrower of the football. Him and Brian excuse me,
him and Brian Thomas Jr. Had a phenomenal season last year.
Now you add an additional weapon with Travis Hunter. Oh,
they're gonna be nice. They should be nice. Like it
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looks nice on paper, but you got to go out
there and play. I'm excited to see Travis Hunt on
the other side of the ball. It's a different ball
game now. No, it's a game of inches. You got
to be on point every single time time you step
out there on the field defensively. And then injuries, you
got to stay here with the baby. You got to
stay health.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, I mean it's a lot, man.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That was the time on Joe Hey, when the defense
on the field, that was the time for me to decompress,
to take my bath.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And yeah, yeah, you get, you get to reset, you get,
you get to reset and prepare yourself mentally for the
next offensive series. He take it on the lot. But
if there's anybody that can do it, I would love
I would love. I would love to see him do it.
Doing it at the college level is one thing. Doing
it at the NFL level it's a whole nother ball.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Doing it, Like we both believe, he can do it periodically,
but he wants to do it full time like he
did it in college. So he wants to play sixty
five seventy players on offense, sixty five seventy plays on defense.
That's where I that's where I think the problem comes in.
But Hey, I'm all, I'm all lives. I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Mm hmm yeah absolutely can you can you imagine the
Jaguars playing the Bengals, right, and he playing receiver full time.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Dealing with dealing with Higgains, dealing with Chase, with.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Chase, and then having the flip size and then go
play man. Come on, boy, you know the kind of
energy you got to exert when you're playing these receivers
at this left.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
The mental energy also, not just the physical energy.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah yeah, because listen, it's a mental game the beginning,
it's to begin with. But I like it. I'm happy
for him. I mean, listen, I'm locked in. I'm in Chicago,
I'm at the draft Kings at the sports book tomorrow.
You connected to Wriggley feel they got it so big?
Every game I got, I got access to every game. Oh,
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this is gonna be nice.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh Joe, have you seen hold on n play Titans?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all for the lose yea.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
O Joe, have you seen the Phillies Karen video? Take
a look at this video, yo, let me know what
you think. Oh Joe, they hit a honk. We got
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another video, that's.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
It is she running after the man with the ball?
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Oh Joe, what happened? They hit the home run? The
ball is on the ground.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
He leaves this section, he go picks the ball up,
he brings it back and gives it what looks like
his son.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
She said he took the ball out of her hand.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
If I'm hearing the video correctly what they're recording, they say,
you took She didn't have the ball.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
He reached down and picked the ball up off the
the off the floor.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
She didn't have the ball before her. He got that
before basically right.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I can see if he took it out of her hands.
I can see if he took it out of a
kid's hand.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
The ball was on the floor. Huh, he didn't take it.
He was awful nice to just give it to it
like I don't. I don't want to know, ma'am. Just
because that's not his section, that doesn't mean he can't
go get to retrieve a ball.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
She like. She felt like she was entitled to it
because it was in her It was in her section.
So let me the question that I have.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
If somebody else from her section would have gotten the ball,
would she have felt obligated?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Hmm? Well, the fact that she felt obligated and didn't
get there fast enough. You snooze, you lose. When a
home run is hit on it's the first person that gets. Yes.
That's always been the room. Yes, that's always been a rule.
I don't I don't attend many baseball games. When I
do see a home run hit, I see everybody running
to that goddamn ball. When people play in San Francisco
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and they hit a home run, yeah, because he's cold,
Yes with ball.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yes, and a whole lot of people have been hitting
in the cove since Barry left. But yes, you're absolutely right,
And it's the first a and everybody out there in
the little kanyaktion trying to get the ball. Okay, if
they hit the ball, Oh, Joe, you and your kayak.
I dive in that water and I get the ball.
Don't be till about this ain't your section. The hell,
I don't care whose section it is. I dovever the water.
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I got this ball, Damn you, I got that first.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, the guy's a lot nicer than a lot of
people would have a lot of people would have told
that lady to forget you.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I ain't giving you jack.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Oh Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
That's cool. I wouldn't have gave it nothing. I ain't
gonna even lie.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
That's my son. I got that ball for my son
right now, he did. I think he got a sign
back I saw. I think I saw somebody saying he goes,
he gonna get the he gonna fly the family to
the World Series.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Hm hmm, okay, I like to see. That's a that's
a good thing about videos when they some of the
players from the team, they see what happens and they
get in touch with the fan. And then you give it,
you get something better. You get to meet the player,
you get back, you get a glove, you get a ball,
and you get more access. That's even better. So all
she got now is the ball. And now they got
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even to.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Ask your question. O, Yo, tell me chance. Let me
know what y'all think. What do you think the chances
are that lady was gonna dive on that ball in
a scrum and try to get it. Now, that's normally
what guys do. Guys dive into the scrum and and
and bust their head or jump over somebody or spell
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their beer. We seeing guys trying to catch Hey, they
got the baby in one hand, got the baby in
a sling, got a beer in one hand.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
They catch the ball.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Guys do dumb guys do stuff like that. I ain't
saying I haven't seen, not to say it hadn't happened.
I just haven't seen a mom trying to catch a
ball while she holding the baby. They're ball like more protective.
They're like, ooh, don't don't hit my baby. Guy's like, hey,
I'm gonna catch this ball. He wasn't going to jump
on that pavement, messer needs up, messer clothes up, trying
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to get a baseball. She just thought it was easy
because it wasn't a whole lot of people in that area.
And he just ran over. He I'll picked the ball up,
got the ball head up, gave it to his son.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
I was like, oh yeah, baby, just because you paid
for it, don't mean you're entitled to catch a file ball.
Oh Joe, you don't mean that you're tired to get
a home run ball just cause you in that section.
If somebody beat you, come So what happened? The ball
trickles down in lands in your section, But trickles died
and goes in somebody else section. Then what you said, Well,
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the ball landed in my section, but you didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Now, you're not obligating, not obligated. He's not obligated to
it because you couldn't get to it.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
If they wanted they want, if they want to get
correct because you are a woman, then be grateful for that.
But if they don't, they're not obligated.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
To the show.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I guess you felt like, well, I paid for this
ticket and it's landed in my spot, and you was
faster than I was.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I didn't see if he took it out of my hand. Yeah,
that he didn't take it out of hand. Oh shoe
she told about you took it out of my hand.
That woman hand wasn't nowhere to Chad. Look at that,
Look at the video. He didn't take that.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Ball out of that lady's hand, not even close.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
But I commend whoever gave him, whoever the Phillies player
that gave him that sign back.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Do we know who gave him a sign back?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I hope it was Swabber uh uh Bryce Harper, hope
Vader well a Bryce Harper, give him a sign back,
give him a sign back too, yeah, and a sign
Jersey get a kid something make him feel bad. You
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got a five dollar ball and caused all this commotion
because you felt entitled that you should have got the ball.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Mm hmmm, bad Lord, how about goods?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
But the guy, the guy even gave it a ball
and just like I don't want no problem, ma'am, I
don't want no problem.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
It's Lord. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
You know you know how you know who I met
when I when I landed the Cub. The cub must
be playing the Washington Nationals and one of the better
players that played for the Washington Nationals by the name
of Josh Bell. I met Josh Bell and his family
earlier today when I walked in or they was cool.
It was cool. Obviously they watched the show. They watched
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the show and they said they love it. They say,
you and I is very funny. Josh Bell very very
respectful to him, you know him and his family. But
it's really cool, really cool to meet him. And I
told him a story about how I almost played for
the Marlins in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Mm.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
He ain't believe me, but he should.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
All right, guys, we're gonna get you out here on
this when It's time for our final segment of the evening.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
It's time for Q and A. JJ. Carver said, is
that frozone?
Speaker 3 (46:34):
What frozone we talked about? You talk about trying to
trying to make fun of me.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Oh oh, you talking about and incredibles with uh Sabuela L. Jackson.
Where's my super su.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Oh okay, okay, I was cutting up the best he
unc You know, I'm standing at the risk Carson. They
gave they gave me this. They gave me this when
I came in.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Look gift a little gift bag. I told him I
was gonna put it on.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
So I'm not gonna put it on, you know, so boom,
I'm wearing it. So rich car everybody to real risk
cross down here Chicago. I appreciate you. See I got
got got got it on, I got it on.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Uh Damn Smell said, Bryce's under what is going to
be good? But he didn't play good tonight. But the
OC for Michigan called a terrible game. Way too conservative
on third down. You've got to got a quarterback that
has arm teller. Why not give him a chance to
make plays? I think I think if they could have
had got some thirty thirty shorts. It seemed like everything
(47:31):
was kind of thirty long.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
And you don't make it that much.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
You don't want to. You don't want to do anything.
You don't want to, uh do anything to back your
offense up. But I think look for an eighteen year
old playing in a hostile environment, it's first gets first
road game, and it's in or Norman, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
I think it did okay, he'll be he'll be better
for it moving forward.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Uh of course at night cap faum love with fake
that stob is the answer for SeeU just because he
looked okay against Delaware, what game besides Baltimore excites you.
Uh No, but look, he looked better than the other
two guys did against than Delaware. It wasn't like he
was playing Delaware and they were playing Alabama or Georgia.
(48:17):
They were playing to say, they were playing the same team.
And the question that I asked, did he look better
than the other two guys that were playing against Delaware?
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Now I'm sure prime are doing is due diligence. Time
obviously had enough confidence and to put him in the game.
So obviously he had like something that he had seen
doing OTA's training camp and during the week of practice
land him to say, Okay, so get in there, so
we'll see how this thing plays out. But right, well,
(48:49):
I'm excited about all the games. I mean, the Commander's
played the Giants. We got some really we got some
really good matchups. Tomorrow the Packers play the Lions.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Lions.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we got some good matchups this weekend.
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Ms Q said, how great do you think BYU commit
fold some high school quarterback rider Lions can be I
don't know much about him. I'm not finna sit here
and Bulljavi you uh, I'll have to take a look
at him. We'll find out. I have to go back
and look at some YouTube videos and see what he
looks like. It's easy to say somebody's gonna be good
(49:29):
or great, but you don't know until you get him
into your building and they put that uniform on.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, architect, nice TV. Thank you. Shannon.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
I said the same thing about Gramblin playing Ohio State today.
No point in playing for money. That football team itself
will never see just get embarrassed by fifty. It just
it's I mean, you got break by the time if
I give you a million dollars, O Joe, and you
gotta fly. You gotta fly seventy players up, and you
gotta bring the band, and you gotta feed them, and
(50:00):
you got to put him up in the hotel.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
All of a sudden, not in a million dollars, no
more gone. Now it's gone.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
God, I need to win the lottery because I would
put the album for two years. I got y'all.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Kevin Norwood Jr. Uh My question is top four college quarterback?
You talking about this year or all time?
Speaker 1 (50:19):
All time?
Speaker 2 (50:20):
I'm putting Cam in there. Cam had the greatest season ever.
You go back and look at Cam and what he
did with the talent that he had around him.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, and in the SCC.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah, Uh, all time, man, I think you have to
put t Bow in there for the simple factor.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
What he did.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Dam Tebow, Damn who else started a bunch of games?
I think Baker, but think you have to throw Baker
Baker Mayfield might make my man, there's a lot of court.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Tommy Fraser. I'm putting Tommy Fraser in there.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
That's a good one back then, or they was hell
back then. Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Michael Michael said, Oh, Joe, Johnny, why is Stanford football
still around.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
They haven't been good in years. Always gets embarrassed. That's
you TV.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Look.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Look, I mean it's nice to you go to Stanford.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
You trying to be a doctor, You trying to do economics,
you're trying to be tech bro. I mean it's it's
not I mean, hey, it's nice. I mean, see Matt
gets to put that Stanford degree on his wall. But
and most players they go to Stanford ain't gonna play
in the NFL. They're not really going thinking about playing
(51:54):
in the NFL. They're going to start thinking about a startup.
They're thinking about being a financial guy. The they're thinking
about something that Google, Apple, Microsoft, That's what they're thinking. Oo.
Just let's just be honest.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yeah, football football is there their second or third priority
on football is mm hmm yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Uh, you go to you go to Stanford. You're not
majoring in eligibility? What did uh?
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Richard Sherman, Okay, Richard Sherman understanding he had the skill
set and the talent to play at the next level.
Very good. Christian McCaffrey understood, I have the I have
the skill set and the talent to play at the
next level. Outside of that are there any more?
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Oh Andrew Luck John.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
John Elway. Yes, no, very very very few, very few.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Uh oar Jim said, Hey, okay, I wish me happy birthday, Arjina,
Happy birthday. Hopefully you had a wonderful birthday. I don't
know if it was today, if it was yesterday or
tomorrow or today if you're on the East coast, but
happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Hopefully you did something fun.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Hopefully you're gonna do something fun and you're gonna get
an opporunity to spending with family, friends and love once
because that's what we should be doing on our birthday.
That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank
each and every one of you that stayed up with
us and joined us for Nightcap, joining o Jo and I.
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The game was okay, wasn't great, It wasn't a barn burn,
it wasn't a thriller. But we thank you for spending
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down UF in Gainesville eighteen. I think it's eighteen sixteen,
So it's fifteen sixteen at eighteen sixteen.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
So thank you guys for joining us. Thanks Johnny.
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Go follow him on his YouTube channel, Glory Days with
Johnny Manziel. Want to thank Johnny for joining us. He'll
be back in the States and so we'll be back
on a good Wi Fi signal next week. So thank you, Johnny,
appreciate that. Enjoy your time over there, get back to
the States safely. Look forward to talking to you next week.
I am unk, he's o cho.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Woh A full schedule of football Sun Morrow, Morrow.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
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to say, and got a really great gray, a really
great game tomorrow night Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
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