Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Best of the NBA, breaking down the iconic shot that changed Stephen Curry’s career and cemented his legacy. The duo also discusses Daryl Moray hatin' on the Lakers 2020 Championship plus much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, is your favorite sports thunk here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the
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so please subscribe or you're gonna make Ojo fight. Daryl
Murray also felt the need to talk about the Lakers
twenty twenty titles Today. Murray said, had the Rockets won
the title, I absolutely would have celebrated as legitimate, knowing
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the immense effort and resilience.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Required.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yet everyone speaking around the league privately agrees that it
doesn't truly hold up as a genuine championship. Perhaps the
last legacy of the NBA bubble is that the NBA
should be proud of its leadership at both the beginning
and the end of the pandemic, even through the champion
will forever be marked by an asterisk. Darrel morri you
should be the last one to talk after what you
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almost grew up by saying what you said about China,
and you got your busses. You got your butt up
out of there. Now see see everybody talks about well,
it's an asterisk because you didn't win it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Now you just.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Said I absolutely would have celebrated as legitimate doing the
immense everty resilience that it took to do it.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
But now because you didn't win.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's a by So is there asked by the strikes
a short year? What year that was ninety nine? Yeah,
not a nine, So it's asked a by that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. What about twenty twelve? Twenty twelve?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Was the strike? Show? Didn't y'all? Didn't y'all? Wasn't y'all
shorten twenty twelve? Joe?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, he don't ask you about that one
hard Yeah, he put that asker by that bubble because
he didn't win. It's been absolutely But I honestly think
I didn't think it was an advantage to anybody playing
in the bubble, you know what I mean, Like, I
wouldn't put no astray by it, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying. No, I don't
know if it was harder than either.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't feel like because it took away a lot
of the elements of traveling, playing in altitude environments, things
of that sort.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Like we all right here, what about you couldn't go nowhere?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Fans?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I mean I know that, I know that's hard.
I knew that was hard. You know.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I tell you what I would do. I'll tell you
what I would do, Joe. I would put you. I
would put you in your house for one hundred days
and all you could do is go to your backyard
and come home.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You can't do nothing else. How much money? Hey, how
much money I'm making? Whatever? The playoffs? Play you?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Okay? So may oh, he's saying, just to play. Get
that because that's what they get. They don't get no extray.
But what the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
All right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Hey, hey, look, hey, look I wasn't locked obviously. You
know I played in CBT. It wasn't It wasn't nowhere
near it's being locked in for ninety days or how
many days those.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Guys locked in.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I played in the TVT and it was a quarantine environment.
We was locked in a hotel for like seven about
ten days. So I know, I know the challenges that
these dudes had to go through. But I'm saying, I
don't think it should be an asterisk, like I think no,
I was not. Yeah about the pandemic itself, Joe, people
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losing their mind. They couldn't go nowhere. O, Choe, you
couldn't go to a you couldn't go sit inside a restaurant,
or you couldn't go to a club, or you couldn't
do it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I don't know how it was in some places, but
I happened to be in Cali at the time. And
when I say, Callie shut it down, Callie shut it down.
Now I know. Georgia shut it down for a week.
Florida shut it down for ten days.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Georgia wasn't shut down, but they were getting two of
that out here, you and me. Yeah, go ahead, o Joe, listen.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
It was It was easy for them, especially during that time.
It was easy for the people that don't actually that
don't be outside.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I didn't go anywhere anyway. So when when the pandemic happened, listen,
I chose that time to catch up for some stuff. Yes,
movies that hadn't seen. No, I would tweet what should
I watch? Hell, I ain't see the wire?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You know, I was was I playing during that time?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I think I think I might have forgot who it was.
I had never seen the wire. The people told me
to waut the wire. I watched Ozark.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I caught up but oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I caught up on all types of stuff on Netflix.
That was good. I had a bunch of cigars with me,
and you know, I had a little cor for machine here.
I ain't need to go nowhere. Everything I needed was
right here. And then I got my.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Game and he's a go ahead O Joe Goya. Do
y'all think that the.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
The COVID times it really changes because think about this.
You know, you had your homeboys or your friends talking
about they want to come over. You don't know what
they done being You're like, hold on, no, yeah, all that,
you know what I mean. And then since it's been
over a lot of kind of yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Hey, hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Bro just pounded he h yeah yeah. Now to this day,
I'm like that, Darryl Morris said, Yet everyone I speak
to around the league probably agreed that it truly doesn't
hold up as a genuine championship. So did you ask
people around the league what they thought about what you
said about China? Ask him what they genuinely think about
(05:15):
how you almost blew it up.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Right right?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh you know why, let me tell you why that
Because Lebron James won it. Anybody any other superstar had
won that championship, Joe Johnson, you and I both know
it'd been legit. It was because Lebron James wanted it
ain't legit. You think that's why a lot of people
(05:40):
put that and ask you. Yes, absolutely, Michael, Kobe, Larry, Magic, Steph,
anybody else. And that's what I asked him. I said, Okay,
y'all say, well, because you said that Lebron came to
La to be a A six Saint, Kevin Hart, he
(06:01):
came to be a movie. He came to win an
oscar as opposed to a Larry or Brian trophy. Okay,
he comes out here, he plays, he wins. Now, so
what's what's the what's the debate? Had anybody else done that?
I say, now, y'all say that's what he did? I say, now, oh, Man,
Jordan was passive Prime Jordan. I said, let me ask
(06:23):
you a question. Had Jordan won the NBA title, would
y'all say he won seven? Or would he have just
won six? Y'all said, y'all, game seven. But because he
didn't win, Oh, he wasn't even trying to win, Yes,
he was. I thought that everything George Tech was serious
The reason why they did it like this is because
(06:44):
Lebron won. Had anybody else won, they not calling it
the Bubble Tech Championship, They're not calling it saying an
asterisk needs to be added.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
They wouldn't do it, even Darryl Morre.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Even Darryl Morray is trying to diminish the man. I
guarantee you take it. I gaestee, you take it. You
need to worry about Philly. That's what you need to do.
All that money. I tell you what, pull another season
like you had this year and see what happened to you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, he the owner though, what they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Then here a gentleman manager, owner Josh Harrison.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Okay, okay, you think they're firem.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Have another boy. He You see that money he done
gave out and you miss the player there, right, somebody
gonna have to go Joe.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
They still owe Joe, L and B. Damn near three
hundred million. Damn.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They gave Ty Reeves maxim max deal. They got Paul
George on the Max deal.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
MAXI nice.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
If Paul, if Paul nia ankle, whatever whatever it is,
if he come back healthy, they're gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He don't get healthy as you get older. I think
he just had another procedure too, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Damn yeah, Hey, I wish I could give all them
boys my limbs and legs, man and arms and he
lee's and knees.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I just damn man, I hate seeing people get injured.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Man, it's some who asked you hold up, who asked
him this? Everybody just feel like they ever really talking to?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
The movie today? Is Joe? Everybody with a real talking
to movie today?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Oh Joe?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Ain't nobody, bro, It's twenty twenty five. They just got
the new package Amazon. Somebody Amazon just got spent seventy
seven billion, seventy six billion. Amazon got a package. NBC
got a package. He has he ain't got a package.
They about to make money out to Yan Yang and
you talking about twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, why yeah, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Nobody in the history of the game has received more
criticism than Lebron James if it was crazy, because he's
no matter what you thought about it, Because man, I
think he's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He's seeded all expectations.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Even though no matter what you thought he might be,
he's exceeded everything. Nobody people say ain't nobody gonna break
Kareem's record, because first of all, you're not gonna play
long enough and you're not gonna be consistent enough. He
did that. Man, ain't nobody gonna get no nineteen All
Star games? He got twenty one. Man, ain't nobody gonna
be no all the NBA all those times he got
(09:23):
twenty one thirteen first teams.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But I just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
He go out, man, go uh ojo. Y'all know when
you've been at the top for so long. Yeah, they
gotta start they gotta start picking at you, bro. They
got they gotta start picking at it. It's just kind
of a part of And that's just kind of what
it seems like because like like you saiduncle, I.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
He's exceeded expectations I'm talking about for him since the
time he came into the NBA. Yes, and what eighteen
nineteen years old man, Yep, all expectations they put on them,
he exceeded at That's christ. There's not a whole lot
of eighteen year old olds get handed the keys to
a franchise. Eighteen no college, no dominant male. I mean,
(10:15):
I guess the dominant male figures would be his coach,
Coach Drew. They don't hand the keys to a franchise
to an eighteen year old.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That's what he did.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's what they gave him.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, that's what they gave it.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, it's it's almost like, well, my favorite player
didn't play that long, he should just go.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Why.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I guarantee you if your favorite player could play at
that level that he's playing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
At, he'd have stayed.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Kobe body broke down on him. He had to shoulder
towards labrum, and he had their keen Ley's injury, and
he was just he had given it all he got.
And you know what Kobe was that Mercedes that had
five hundred thousand miles on it, and they just pulledside
the road and it just stopped. You don't think Jordan,
if Jordan could have still played at that elite level,
(11:09):
you don't think he just continued to play. Of course,
we all would playing right now. Of Course they're mad
that the man that's taking care of his body for
this long, Lord is blessed and beyond blessed, and he's
able to play at an elite level. Even in year
twenty two. The man average twenty four eight and eight
in year twenty two. Everybody else don't average. I don't
(11:32):
even think anybody did anybody average twenty two average double
figures in your twenty two what considering that only Vince
Carter's played the twenty two twenty two seasons.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean, think about.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That man, and we just tried, and people just try
to find things to nit picking, to pick him apart,
and I just I just I just I'll I'll just
never I'll just never understand why.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Why.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I mean, it's gonna I mean, he's gonna be gone
and then you know, eventually KD, eventually Steph, we'll have
new guys in there.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
What that's gonna be missed.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The most though, somebody else, somebody else will take his
place on somebody else that they're going to love to
hate somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
There's never been anybody before or since him that's been
like this. Nobody, nobody defy you to find it, even
if you're in the Bad Boy Pistons. Nope, they didn't like,
they didn't dislike them like they dislike this man. Right,
I agree. I think when when he when he hangs
it up. Everybody's gonna miss it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, what done for the game? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Jonavan Kaminga reportedly prefers to play for the Sacramento Kings
instead of the Golden State Warriors. Kaminga believes the Warriors
have stunted and strung his career long for four seasons. Joe,
do you agree? It doesn't seem like he's gonna accept
their I think what the.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Offer, Yeah, the Warriors offer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Now I don't think he's gonna accept the Warriors off.
I think he's actually ready to move on. Uh, but yeah,
I can I can see him going to Sacramento. But
that would have they would have to do like a
sign in trade though.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Right, correct? Correct?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, I think if if, if the Warriors are looking
to improve, I'm not sure what. I'm not sure what
Sacramento has it that they will want. But I don't
know either. They're gonna have to trade for They're gonna
have to trade cominga man, then they can't get He done?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
He fed up? He done? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, because I'm not sure that he trusts him anymore. Right,
that's what there?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So why is he huh?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Why is he limiting in himself to just one team?
Why Sacramento? Why not anywhere else?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Maybe he likes that. Think there's really been a you
know grounds well, go ahead, go ahead, Joe. I don't
think it's really been a huge market for him, Oh Joe.
For whatever reason, it's it's you know, it's been a
little weird for him. But uh, he's definitely a talent
who can help a team obviously, you know, win a title,
(14:21):
compete for one. The Sacramento thing, I don't know where
they came from. Maybe they got the money to spend,
but I don't think going back to Golden State is Uh.
I don't think it's beneficial for the for the Warriors anyway,
because you know the things that Curry said, you know, yeah,
(14:41):
I think you I think I think you've over that situation.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Dam Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And I think it happen when they got Jimmy Butler,
they go ahead, Yeah, Yes, that got a yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah. Oh yo.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Stealer's cornerback Jalen Ramsey, he's wearing a five dollar bill
on his shoulder paths a training camp every time I
go out there, trying to make some trying to make
some money.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Oh he got it on the flat.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
He tried to say he tried to make money. He
got on got it on the paths. I'm trying to
get the bread.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Whatever whatever you gotta do, whatever you gotta do to
motivate yourself, whatever you got to do to stay locked in, Right,
I like it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I like what this This is the second time he
got traded because he came from the Rams. He spent
two years in Miami and now he what damn because
he started in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, been a couple of years that Jack.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Good ad defense in Jacksonville. By Yeah, they would loaded
and it's a contract year for him.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh he just signed one. Yeah, he just they just
extended him all last year.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Hm. There wasn't nothing wrong with him. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Why you no.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
He said he he had what he tried to make
money with he out there. That's what he's trying to say.
He tried to make money while he out there. Okay,
oh all right, all right, that's something you would have
done with Joe when you were playing.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Oh nah, now I ain't putting not no fire doutar.
I would have a dollar on them, not no fire.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, yeah, you know you.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Saw what I tried to bribe that referee. You notice
I tried to bribe him with a with a dollar
bidder write anything more than that?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Did they find you for that?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, they found me a little twenty thousand's cool. It
was worth it. Iconic moment the NFL can't take a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No, I said, they should have slapped it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I told him the should have slaped him with a
better Oh yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Did I say?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I said, I think I'm about have said one hundred
thousand two of the.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Found went off went off for me when he was
on he was on Fox.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Huh, I was CBS.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, it was so funny.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Hey, Joe boy un went off well, and it was
funny When I saw it, I just laugh.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I just laugh.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I said, you know what, I'm gonna make sure I
do something else to following week two.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I like all the dances, I like all the other stuff,
the river dance, and I like, uh the sombreil rode. Yeah,
he stayed on some bull jib. Joe cam Ward told
the Athletic there's a target on his back. I don't
think I'm being welcome in the league with open arms.
(17:28):
I was the first pick. I'm blessed to be on that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
But at the end of the day, there's a target
on my back. There's a target on everyone's back in
the league. But I'm trying to prove myself to my teammate. Yep,
you're absolutely right. They want to see why you were
the first pick, just like we go out there to
the dB that was the first round pick, or he
won the thorn for ward and he wanted the buckets
or he whatever you want. I need to see why
you won that award.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Bro. Yeah, absolutely, They're gonna try you now.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, there's no there's no target for one. You see,
when you think about first round picks, he might be
the first. This might be the first time in the
history of the NFL the first round pick slipped up
under the radar because all attention is going to the
fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
If you think about it.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You have you have slipped right up under the radar
as far as media coverage and all the hoopla that
has always surrounded the first pick of the draft. Yeah,
because of the Schadur effects. So I'm looking I'm looking
forward to what Cam Woarred does this season. You you're
gonna be fine because you got some pieces the way
to work with too. You got some pieces to work with, So.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Joe, that's the same thing with Briddy James. We ain't
talking about not one first round draft pick. All the
talk about Broddi James and you know Cam Woard that
that that market he's in, that ain't a huge market,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
No, no, yeah, it is Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The name right yeah, uh Sanders James.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, I mean they talked.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They talked more about the fifty fifth pick in the
draft than they did the top two pick. And I
think the Wizards got one and the Hawks got the other. Now, Cam,
then you ain't got no talking on your back, bro.
That's everybody to come in, everybody that's a first round
draft pick. You a first round draft pick, people need
to say, and you're the number one overall draft pick.
(19:22):
But they hey, they gonna check you i D every
game you go in, They checkingy i D. Make sure
you old enough to be in the club. They're gonna
make sure you old us to be in the club.
Veterans forty nine ers veteran left tackle Trent showed frustration
during practice because Nick Bosa kept beating him. Nick Bosas
(19:42):
beating tread with a lot of time. Trent yesterday had
a big reaction to a move of the ball period
uh that was dominated by Nick Bosa. The offense was
stopped by Nick Bosa. Trent came up the field exacerbated,
like he banged his thighs just it was frustrated.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I think that's great for the team.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think that's gonna push Trent to get better and
be better through our training camp, and he's gonna be
Trent Williams by the time September rolls around. I hate
to use iron shopping irons, but it's definitely what's happening
in camp. William is thirty seven and recently said that
he wants to play until his forties.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
M M, hey, listen, if you.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
In camp consistently, especially by somebody that's gonna frustrate you, well,
who better than Nick Bosa to get yourself who you
gotta get to because you're not gonna be facing Nick.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Bosas sixteen Nick Bosa's nah, absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Excuse me, seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Now they got seventeen game, They're gonna be seventeen Nick Bosas. Hey,
but you got one over there, Jared Verse, he ain't no,
he ain't no victory.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, you're right undersized. Do we live underside? Look quicker?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, but hey, don't let that underside fool you.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, he can go now go and.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I think, uh the Cardinals got one of the Eagles
deepense lineman.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Oh one of them seven last year?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Not read it?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Uh no, not ready? He was a single digit though,
it was he was a single digit. If I'm not mistaken,
you think, so.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Who was it? Uh? Who the uh? Ash?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Who's that d lineman that went to uh.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Ok yeah Joshua.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a single digit?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Ash? Was he? I could have sworn yeah he was
a single digit because I swore he.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Was, because he's the one that said he could have
eaten been the uh Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, So they got they got some guys that didn't
get off the rock on you now. But you know,
trends coming to a trains coming out. I think Trent
with Nick last year, he came. He's coming off an injury.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
He had a few injuries. He was out along with
McCaffrey was out.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
They had a couple of guys, They had a couple
of guys out. They lost the uh uh the wide receiver.
Are you are you Brett Yep. A couple of DB's
her finger.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Look, it's not gonna be as easy important to think
because they lost a lot of guys. Drake Greenlaw with
late coming back, he's gone now. Uh the dB he
ended up going to the Colts.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Uh not not Ward?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah wait yep the Davy is Ward left?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yep, Yep.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
He was nice.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
That's why Andy paid him.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
He was nice.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
DeMar DeRozan went on Mello's pot and explained the difference
between being the young players now when he was their age.
Lamar said, I see that MOFO put his name on
Twitter search at halftime to see what they were saying.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Joe that, Joe that misbehavior like this, Joe.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Hey, in this new era, it's a lot different fellas halftime.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
He ain't lying now.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I'm sure you know a lot of these teams gonna,
you know, put these stipulations in where these guys can't
be using their phone at halftime. But a lot of
these casts, man, they on their phones at halftime checking
to see what's going on. It's just a it's almost
like a habit. It's a part of who they are
and what they do. They can't help it. You sit
in your lock up on the first thing you do,
pick up your phone, you go to scrolling. Yeah, we
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ain't a at like and practice like they get a break. Yeah, guys,
go get on the phone. Then you know what I'm saying.
You know, called somebody, but but I came, Oh Joe,
can you imagine somebody.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Doing that a halftime of a game that ever happened.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I can't even I can't even talk trash on because
my my, my crazy game. I tweeted on the sideline
in the middle of the game, in the middle of
the preseason game.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't agree with that, but preseason. But
I'm talking about they talking about regular season.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
No, no, yeah, I wouldn't do nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
But I think we were playing Philly in the preseason
and I got hit real good. I'm talking about in
the real good to the point where I had to
I had to go and let everybody know I was okay.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
The tweet might still be up.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Well if you didn't take it down. Yeah, it's still up.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It's still still up there.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
We were playing the Eagles in the preseason and I
forgot the dude's name.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Uh, white, white fellow. You know he's really good. War
fifty five. I can't remember his name, but he caught
me on the slant. Oh.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I wanted to say Bruh's preseason, but had had to
sit there for a limited before I got up.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I was a little woozy m hm, and they took me.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's what's going on now, Wow, that's why they don't win.
Can you imagine what.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's like in high school and colle were in different times,
and now guys getting paid in college and high school too.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh yeah, we're in different times.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, I was a professional sport. Now it is, it is,
and you see what they're doing. You see the job
they try to limit. You see they try to libert
the n I l O Joe. You see that right?
Why did you know why they try to limit it
at the joke for the people that get the money
who they look like, Hey listen, hold on while you're talking.
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They say they were gonna start doing a little back
paid on there.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now. I wanted to checked in on it, but they're
only going back like ten years. Yeah yeah, yeah you too,
O Joe.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You try to get a little black paid.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, y'all just trying to see what going on with Joe.
I ain't trying to rough up. I'm just trying to
see what going on.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
With that. I know they ain't going back to death
there forty years, because that's that wouldn't be. That's what
it be for me that y'all went to school today
six So I know I ain't get nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's a better state. They had nobody to be paying nobody.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Nobody got no money to pay nobody now, so I
know they ain't getting no back paid.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
But I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I don't get this. Like I say, guys, when you're here,
you're here now. Now when when you home, Okay, be there,
do what you want to do, what you you want
to tweet, you want to do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But I don't. I don't. I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
At the half of a game, you checking what people
saying on Twitter, I g.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Whatever the case may be, really because.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
You're thinking, and you you're thinking, you're probably too locked
in even to even care about that, And yeah, yeah,
that's what I would be thinking. Like that's why our
phones are such a distraction nowadays. You got that when
I was in college and now y'all a little older
than me. But when I was in college, we ain't
have cell phones.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Man, look here, we ain't have cell phones. The bill
was so expensive. But uhuh phone now, man, you're gonna
get your calling card, call whoever you want to call.
That's how y'all talking. You talk that card up, you
go get your nothing, or you get somebody else calling card.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, Joe, I had I had a cell phone, Joe.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I had a little raisor I think a little two
thousand and too.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, I had a little phone.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
No, when I got to leave, people had two ways.
Nobody had no, didn't nobody have cell phones.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
In and who won? I had a cell phone, Joe.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
What but but but at that point, but to see
the thing, it was different. I mean it was different people.
I mean they took that stuff serious, man. And I
think the thing is now, Joe, is that like a
lot of the veterans have been like ushered out, and
so they're getting younger and younger and they you know,
and so all this stuff that a door now, But
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yet that would be the man that that would be.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Oh oh goodness, gracious.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Times have changed.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It is times have changed, and you couldn't even go ahead, Joe,
could y'all could y'all even fathom like the things that
you could get into as a kid, bro and in
this time and era to where you got all these devices,
whether it's phones I passed.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's just too much, man, It's so many distraction nowadays.
It's hard to keep a lot of these dudes focused.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Man. It is it is. Yeah, it is too much.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Gotta want it. They gotta want it.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
That's the You gotta really want it to be function
and lock in during these times.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
You gotta want it.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, you do, You do it, Joe.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You gotta, okay, prioritize what's what's what's important, what's really important?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
And what I must have.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And and and the thing is like who am I
checking in on? They know where I'm at. I'm at
a game, and what you're doing playing the game?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Okay? You call me on.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Wednesday, Thursday and Friday on Joe, you call me at
ten o'clock kid thurday the morning?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Man?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
What you what you're doing practice? I'm watched you feel
I'm studying.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And you should first of all, why you calling me?
You should be at work? I never understood that on yo,
I don't. I didn't. I didn't understand why guys would
get out of the meeting and they go get on
the phone. Bro, you know what your unless somebody. I
get it, Okay, your wife and your girlfriend pregnant, expected
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kids sick.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But y'all, first of all, if you gonna get on
the phone like this here, you ain't checking in and
see if somebody sick already.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Hey, it is.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Good over there.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You know, left the little chick at the house, so
you know you gotta check it and make sure she's good.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
In between means please, it is Joe. It's different, Joe.
I mean, think about it. Think about when you came
in and when you left. Now, think about the time
ten years from now, what's gonna be like.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
The NB ain't gonna join it.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They're gonna join in on all the fun, all all
this stuff these dudes doing.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
They gonna have activities for, you.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Know, interview guys on the side like Repot have no
because you know, sometimes they talking to them, they talking
to the managers and things like that.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
They'll find a way to capitalize. You're right, Joe, They'll
find a way to capitalize. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Steph Curry on the shot that changed his life. It's
the shot against Gonzaga. I really felt like that was
a difference maker. Not to say I wouldn't have been
able to figure it out had we lost, but that
was a big moment.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh Joe, what of the play that changed your life?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
The player that changed my life, especially from a receiver standpoint,
was dropping the ball. It wasn't even catching the ball.
I'd never forgets. Rest in peace, Oliver Gibson. We were
playing the Innianapolis coach. I think it might have been
my rookie year, maybe my second year. But to keep
a drive going, we went for it on fourth down,
to keep a drive going, to go down and maybe
tie the game or actually win the game.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Unk.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
I dropped the goddamn slam on fourth down and here
I am crying, getting just you know, all of the gifts,
and came up to me, grabbed me by, grabbed me
by my shirt. It's a picture of it too, I
posted on Twitter when he passed away, grabbed me up
by my shirt. Man, if you don't stop that crying,
because you're gonna have another opportunity to.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Win us a game, change everything. But I got on
that drug machine and just this. It was different after that.
From that point, I hadn't even become Chad Johnson yet
than nobody at.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That point yep.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
After dropping that game and realized I just cost this
a game, Yep, loss is a game.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And I always told myself from that point on, I'll
either be one of the reasons why we're in a
game or we win games from that point on.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, anything happened to me.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
In nineteen ninety nine, I dropped the touchdown that would
have given us home field throw out the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I still I still think about that play. Oh, Joell
man have made so sweet, had me a oh at tie,
oh your end tight emotion out linebacker with with me
like niggas say, I just ate it on it, Oh
y'all think to day, y'all right here, I'm already thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh, I'm bet to do this. I'm fit to do that.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Right. It went right through your hands.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Right through them, right through them, Ojo.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
But that's the worst for you.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
The boy drop the ball in the south en zone. Man,
I'll never forget. And I came to the sideline students
so will say, hey, shuck you'll get it back. You'll
get it back. And I'm like, you know the opportunity
they're gonna come because it was, oh Joe. It wasn't
like I was the number one receiver. They're gonna be
feeding me balls right right. They won't be feed me
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that were throwing me no balls like that. Okay, okay,
there wasn't gonna be throwing me football They wasn't feeding
me footballs like that.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
There you go bad.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So I knew that opportunity was gonna come back that day.
It might come back at a later day in time,
but it wasn't coming back that day. And I remember,
oh Joe, and so I dropped that play. And then
at Wednesday's practice, man, I was catching. I was catching everything.
I mean, I was taking stuff off of my shoe tops.
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I was making stuff one handed. And Dad Reeves said,
I mean, he's like, I showed what you to call
that one on Sunday like this.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Sometimes say, listen, sometimes you relax it the wrong times. Yep,
anytime I dropped the ball, it's because I relaxed.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Oh Shore, you know what I did. I didn't extend.
I did this. That's the ball.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And yeah, damn and so the ball just like, damn.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Boy, that hurt, boy, that hurt, that hurt, that hurt.
I remember going home crying. I called my brother.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
He said, man, what's wrong? I said, Man, you went
you got home.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I was crying on the in the middle of the field. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I wouldn't let to see I could'tlet him see me
crying because it'show id Abad have said. Somebody had to
swing on somebody on the field or make you got jokes.
Don't listen, man, I was in that car, Bet, I
was in that car. Cry like, man, a matter of fact,
Oh you had a photo blaze. I never forget had
a photo blazer.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Boy, Damn you know you know me, boy, I let
them tear his flat. Boy, I don't. I don't care
where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Mmm, but I think hurt that hurt.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Uh. And And I agree with Steph and he's like,
I'm not not saying that I couldn't have figured it
out at a later dayton time, but I believe that
was the moment that he's like, hold on, we're.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Davidson, that's Ganzaga.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And they you know, they always in the playoffs. They
always wanted to, you know. And when he took them down. Look,
I had never seen anbody shoot the ball like that,
not not from that kind of distance, not just pulling
up like that. He was, you know, like he's six
d like the average. He got six five six four
sixty five.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
And he just letting it go.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I mean, he dad's don't folks in shorts like threeside
like they've made for his dad. You know what I'm
saying that he just let it fly. Damn he definitely
left his mark Man Davidson.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I wonder what so many three point shooters that have
come along, what separated Steph and made him as good
as he is, what made him so green. I'm just they.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Gave him the green light to do it. You see
pride to Steph. Only half of think about it, Oh Joe,
everybody shooting threes? Now, that was how many times? That's
a bad Steph. There's no shot that Steph takes that
people actually believe in a bad shot. That shot, right,
People were shooting some of the shots that Steph shoot
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routinely into the first quarter, end of the half end
of the shot clock. Right, Stephan shooting that shot with
fifteen sixteen seconds on the shot clock on the shot clock,
but somebody had to give him the confidence saying that's okay.
Mark Jackson was that guy. Now he shot that. But
come to the NBA, guys wasn't shoot those shots like
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Steph Like I mean, Dad, Reggie was a catching shoot.
Ray was a little was catching shoot. But he could
Steph can dance and launch it from the timeline. Yeah,
you literally have to pick step up at half court
or he'll let it go right.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And you think because with his ability to be able
to create separation and create his own shot, that makes
it that much more easier for him.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yes, absolutely, because and plus the thing is if you
hug up on it, because he can.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Have it, he can put it on the floor and
get by you. Yeah, by you.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, he can get all the way to the rim.
So now and then he runs constantly. He does get
tired because the first thing, if you get tired, your
shot goes you short.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
M h.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
He's he's probably the best conditioned athlete because nobody's running
as much as he does.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
He run a lot. He run a lot, and he
just let it fly and be confusing when I think
about basketball and you know you're playing the Warriors, and
as much as Steph run like me.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
You know how when you play defense and in the dB, say,
listen there in a bunch, we're gonna band you it.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
If you come in your air, you just pick him up. Man,
I forget man, just zone so you don't got to
run all over.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
The place happening.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Okay, and get and guess what happens now when they
backpick that zone. Guess what, Steph wide open, They're gonna run.
They're gonna run it. They're gonna run you off so
many screens.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's that sucks.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And the thing is, and when you miss a shot,
you would think, because they're such a small team they
are small, yeah, that they're not gonna They're one of
the better rebounding teams. So when they get these long
rebounds off the karum, Steph automatically goes to reset. So
now you play zone. Okay, he go reset to one
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of those corners. He'll he'll get it and he'll come
all the way across in the corner and then he'll
come up. I'm crazy, but giving you confidence like to
shoot shooting son, No words, We're not gonna take you
out shoot the ball.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Hey, nobody else got the green ad like he does.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Huh oh, they like, guy's got it now, but he
made it. Okay, Now you see everybody shooting threes, don't
shore They shooting down there? Seventy a game between the
two teams.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
They they're not as efficient as he is.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
No, but if you think about it, at this point
in time, Buddy Hill is ahead of where Steph Curry
was with threes made Anthony Edwards. Yes, because nobody was
shooting him. They're shooting of him now right, Look at
they centain them. Look how many threes he shoots a game?
Look how many a man shoots a game. Buddy Hill,
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even though Buddy wasn't a star, Buddy was coming and
let the three go. Everybody, let everybody let the three go.
Now it's the three, and everybody think this Steph Curry
and you watching like.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
A AAU kids every age group, and they shoot, They
shoot him from three.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
They're throwing the ball because they can't they can't shoot
it because they're so small.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
They throw
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Murray also felt the need to talk about the Lakers
twenty twenty titles Today. Murray said, had the Rockets won
the title, I absolutely would have celebrated as legitimate, knowing
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the immense effort and resilience.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Required.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yet everyone speaking around the league privately agrees that it
doesn't truly hold up as a genuine championship. Perhaps the
last legacy of the NBA bubble is that the NBA
should be proud of its leadership at both the beginning
and the end of the pandemic, even through the champion
will forever be marked by an asterisk. Darrel morri you
should be the last one to talk after what you
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almost grew up by saying what you said about China,
and you got your busses. You got your butt up
out of there. Now see see everybody talks about well,
it's an asterisk because you didn't win it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Now you just.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Said I absolutely would have celebrated as legitimate doing the
immense everty resilience that it took to do it.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
But now because you didn't win.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's a by So is there asked by the strikes
a short year? What year that was ninety nine? Yeah,
not a nine, So it's asked a by that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. What about twenty twelve? Twenty twelve?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Was the strike? Show? Didn't y'all? Didn't y'all? Wasn't y'all
shorten twenty twelve? Joe?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, he don't ask you about that one
hard Yeah, he put that asker by that bubble because
he didn't win. It's been absolutely But I honestly think
I didn't think it was an advantage to anybody playing
in the bubble, you know what I mean, Like, I
wouldn't put no astray by it, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying. No, I don't
know if it was harder than either.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't feel like because it took away a lot
of the elements of traveling, playing in altitude environments, things
of that sort.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Like we all right here, what about you couldn't go nowhere?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Fans?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, I mean I know that, I know that's hard.
I knew that was hard. You know.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I tell you what I would do. I'll tell you
what I would do, Joe. I would put you. I
would put you in your house for one hundred days
and all you could do is go to your backyard
and come home.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You can't do nothing else. How much money? Hey, how
much money I'm making? Whatever? The playoffs? Play you?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Okay? So may oh, he's saying, just to play. Get
that because that's what they get. They don't get no extray.
But what the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
All right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Hey, hey, look, hey, look I wasn't locked obviously. You
know I played in CBT. It wasn't It wasn't nowhere
near it's being locked in for ninety days or how
many days those.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Guys locked in.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I played in the TVT and it was a quarantine environment.
We was locked in a hotel for like seven about
ten days. So I know, I know the challenges that
these dudes had to go through. But I'm saying, I
don't think it should be an asterisk, like I think no,
I was not. Yeah about the pandemic itself, Joe, people
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losing their mind. They couldn't go nowhere. O, Choe, you
couldn't go to a you couldn't go sit inside a restaurant,
or you couldn't go to a club, or you couldn't
do it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I don't know how it was in some places, but
I happened to be in Cali at the time. And
when I say, Callie shut it down, Callie shut it down.
Now I know. Georgia shut it down for a week.
Florida shut it down for ten days.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Georgia wasn't shut down, but they were getting two of
that out here, you and me. Yeah, go ahead, o Joe, listen.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
It was It was easy for them, especially during that time.
It was easy for the people that don't actually that
don't be outside.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I didn't go anywhere anyway. So when when the pandemic happened, listen,
I chose that time to catch up for some stuff. Yes,
movies that hadn't seen. No, I would tweet what should
I watch? Hell, I ain't see the wire?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You know, I was was I playing during that time?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I think I think I might have forgot who it was.
I had never seen the wire. The people told me
to waut the wire. I watched Ozark.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I caught up but oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I caught up on all types of stuff on Netflix.
That was good. I had a bunch of cigars with me,
and you know, I had a little cor for machine here.
I ain't need to go nowhere. Everything I needed was
right here. And then I got my.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Game and he's a go ahead O Joe Goya. Do
y'all think that the.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
The COVID times it really changes because think about this.
You know, you had your homeboys or your friends talking
about they want to come over. You don't know what
they done being You're like, hold on, no, yeah, all that,
you know what I mean. And then since it's been
over a lot of kind of yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Hey, hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Bro just pounded he h yeah yeah. Now to this day,
I'm like that, Darryl Morris said, Yet everyone I speak
to around the league probably agreed that it truly doesn't
hold up as a genuine championship. So did you ask
people around the league what they thought about what you
said about China? Ask him what they genuinely think about
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how you almost blew it up.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Right right?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh you know why, let me tell you why that
Because Lebron James won it. Anybody any other superstar had
won that championship, Joe Johnson, you and I both know
it'd been legit. It was because Lebron James wanted it
ain't legit. You think that's why a lot of people
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put that and ask you. Yes, absolutely, Michael, Kobe, Larry, Magic, Steph,
anybody else. And that's what I asked him. I said, Okay,
y'all say, well, because you said that Lebron came to
La to be a A six Saint, Kevin Hart, he
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came to be a movie. He came to win an
oscar as opposed to a Larry or Brian trophy. Okay,
he comes out here, he plays, he wins. Now, so
what's what's the what's the debate? Had anybody else done that?
I say, now, y'all say that's what he did? I say, now, oh, Man,
Jordan was passive Prime Jordan. I said, let me ask
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you a question. Had Jordan won the NBA title, would
y'all say he won seven? Or would he have just
won six? Y'all said, y'all, game seven. But because he
didn't win, Oh, he wasn't even trying to win, Yes,
he was. I thought that everything George Tech was serious
The reason why they did it like this is because
(06:44):
Lebron won. Had anybody else won, they not calling it
the Bubble Tech Championship, They're not calling it saying an
asterisk needs to be added.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
They wouldn't do it, even Darryl Morre.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Even Darryl Morray is trying to diminish the man. I
guarantee you take it. I gaestee, you take it. You
need to worry about Philly. That's what you need to do.
All that money. I tell you what, pull another season
like you had this year and see what happened to you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, he the owner though, what they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Then here a gentleman manager, owner Josh Harrison.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Okay, okay, you think they're firem.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Have another boy. He You see that money he done
gave out and you miss the player there, right, somebody
gonna have to go Joe.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
They still owe Joe, L and B. Damn near three
hundred million. Damn.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They gave Ty Reeves maxim max deal. They got Paul
George on the Max deal.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
MAXI nice.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
If Paul, if Paul nia ankle, whatever whatever it is,
if he come back healthy, they're gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He don't get healthy as you get older. I think
he just had another procedure too, mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Damn yeah, Hey, I wish I could give all them
boys my limbs and legs, man and arms and he
lee's and knees.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I just damn man, I hate seeing people get injured.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Man, it's some who asked you hold up, who asked
him this? Everybody just feel like they ever really talking to?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
The movie today? Is Joe? Everybody with a real talking
to movie today?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Oh Joe?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Ain't nobody, bro, It's twenty twenty five. They just got
the new package Amazon. Somebody Amazon just got spent seventy
seven billion, seventy six billion. Amazon got a package. NBC
got a package. He has he ain't got a package.
They about to make money out to Yan Yang and
you talking about twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, why yeah, I promise you.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Nobody in the history of the game has received more
criticism than Lebron James if it was crazy, because he's
no matter what you thought about it, Because man, I
think he's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
He's seeded all expectations.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Even though no matter what you thought he might be,
he's exceeded everything. Nobody people say ain't nobody gonna break
Kareem's record, because first of all, you're not gonna play
long enough and you're not gonna be consistent enough. He
did that. Man, ain't nobody gonna get no nineteen All
Star games? He got twenty one. Man, ain't nobody gonna
be no all the NBA all those times he got
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twenty one thirteen first teams.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But I just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
He go out, man, go uh ojo. Y'all know when
you've been at the top for so long. Yeah, they
gotta start they gotta start picking at you, bro. They
got they gotta start picking at it. It's just kind
of a part of And that's just kind of what
it seems like because like like you saiduncle, I.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
He's exceeded expectations I'm talking about for him since the
time he came into the NBA. Yes, and what eighteen
nineteen years old man, Yep, all expectations they put on them,
he exceeded at That's christ. There's not a whole lot
of eighteen year old olds get handed the keys to
a franchise. Eighteen no college, no dominant male. I mean,
(10:15):
I guess the dominant male figures would be his coach,
Coach Drew. They don't hand the keys to a franchise
to an eighteen year old.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That's what he did.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's what they gave him.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, that's what they gave it.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, it's it's almost like, well, my favorite player
didn't play that long, he should just go.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Why.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I guarantee you if your favorite player could play at
that level that he's playing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
At, he'd have stayed.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Kobe body broke down on him. He had to shoulder
towards labrum, and he had their keen Ley's injury, and
he was just he had given it all he got.
And you know what Kobe was that Mercedes that had
five hundred thousand miles on it, and they just pulledside
the road and it just stopped. You don't think Jordan,
if Jordan could have still played at that elite level,
(11:09):
you don't think he just continued to play. Of course,
we all would playing right now. Of Course they're mad
that the man that's taking care of his body for
this long, Lord is blessed and beyond blessed, and he's
able to play at an elite level. Even in year
twenty two. The man average twenty four eight and eight
in year twenty two. Everybody else don't average. I don't
(11:32):
even think anybody did anybody average twenty two average double
figures in your twenty two what considering that only Vince
Carter's played the twenty two twenty two seasons.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean, think about.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
That man, and we just tried, and people just try
to find things to nit picking, to pick him apart,
and I just I just I just I'll I'll just
never I'll just never understand why.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Why.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I mean, it's gonna I mean, he's gonna be gone
and then you know, eventually KD, eventually Steph, we'll have
new guys in there.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
What that's gonna be missed.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The most though, somebody else, somebody else will take his
place on somebody else that they're going to love to
hate somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
There's never been anybody before or since him that's been
like this. Nobody, nobody defy you to find it, even
if you're in the Bad Boy Pistons. Nope, they didn't like,
they didn't dislike them like they dislike this man. Right,
I agree. I think when when he when he hangs
it up. Everybody's gonna miss it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, what done for the game? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Jonavan Kaminga reportedly prefers to play for the Sacramento Kings
instead of the Golden State Warriors. Kaminga believes the Warriors
have stunted and strung his career long for four seasons. Joe,
do you agree? It doesn't seem like he's gonna accept
their I think what the.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Offer, Yeah, the Warriors offer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Now I don't think he's gonna accept the Warriors off.
I think he's actually ready to move on. Uh, but yeah,
I can I can see him going to Sacramento. But
that would have they would have to do like a
sign in trade though.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Right, correct? Correct?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, I think if if, if the Warriors are looking
to improve, I'm not sure what. I'm not sure what
Sacramento has it that they will want. But I don't
know either. They're gonna have to trade for They're gonna
have to trade cominga man, then they can't get He done?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
He fed up? He done? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, because I'm not sure that he trusts him anymore. Right,
that's what there?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So why is he huh?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Why is he limiting in himself to just one team?
Why Sacramento? Why not anywhere else?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Maybe he likes that. Think there's really been a you
know grounds well, go ahead, go ahead, Joe. I don't
think it's really been a huge market for him, Oh Joe.
For whatever reason, it's it's you know, it's been a
little weird for him. But uh, he's definitely a talent
who can help a team obviously, you know, win a title,
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compete for one. The Sacramento thing, I don't know where
they came from. Maybe they got the money to spend,
but I don't think going back to Golden State is Uh.
I don't think it's beneficial for the for the Warriors anyway,
because you know the things that Curry said, you know, yeah,
(14:41):
I think you I think I think you've over that situation.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Dam Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And I think it happen when they got Jimmy Butler,
they go ahead, Yeah, Yes, that got a yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah. Oh yo.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Stealer's cornerback Jalen Ramsey, he's wearing a five dollar bill
on his shoulder paths a training camp every time I
go out there, trying to make some trying to make
some money.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Oh he got it on the flat.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
He tried to say he tried to make money. He
got on got it on the paths. I'm trying to
get the bread.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Whatever whatever you gotta do, whatever you gotta do to
motivate yourself, whatever you got to do to stay locked in, Right,
I like it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I like what this This is the second time he
got traded because he came from the Rams. He spent
two years in Miami and now he what damn because
he started in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, been a couple of years that Jack.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Good ad defense in Jacksonville. By Yeah, they would loaded
and it's a contract year for him.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh he just signed one. Yeah, he just they just
extended him all last year.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Hm. There wasn't nothing wrong with him. I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Why you no.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
He said he he had what he tried to make
money with he out there. That's what he's trying to say.
He tried to make money while he out there. Okay,
oh all right, all right, that's something you would have
done with Joe when you were playing.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Oh nah, now I ain't putting not no fire doutar.
I would have a dollar on them, not no fire.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, yeah, you know you.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Saw what I tried to bribe that referee. You notice
I tried to bribe him with a with a dollar
bidder write anything more than that?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Did they find you for that?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, they found me a little twenty thousand's cool. It
was worth it. Iconic moment the NFL can't take a joke.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No, I said, they should have slapped it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I told him the should have slaped him with a
better Oh yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Did I say?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I said, I think I'm about have said one hundred
thousand two of the.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Found went off went off for me when he was
on he was on Fox.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Huh, I was CBS.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, it was so funny.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Hey, Joe boy un went off well, and it was
funny When I saw it, I just laugh.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I just laugh.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I said, you know what, I'm gonna make sure I
do something else to following week two.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I like all the dances, I like all the other stuff,
the river dance, and I like, uh the sombreil rode. Yeah,
he stayed on some bull jib. Joe cam Ward told
the Athletic there's a target on his back. I don't
think I'm being welcome in the league with open arms.
(17:28):
I was the first pick. I'm blessed to be on that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
But at the end of the day, there's a target
on my back. There's a target on everyone's back in
the league. But I'm trying to prove myself to my teammate. Yep,
you're absolutely right. They want to see why you were
the first pick, just like we go out there to
the dB that was the first round pick, or he
won the thorn for ward and he wanted the buckets
or he whatever you want. I need to see why
you won that award.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Bro. Yeah, absolutely, They're gonna try you now.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, there's no there's no target for one. You see,
when you think about first round picks, he might be
the first. This might be the first time in the
history of the NFL the first round pick slipped up
under the radar because all attention is going to the
fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
If you think about it.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You have you have slipped right up under the radar
as far as media coverage and all the hoopla that
has always surrounded the first pick of the draft. Yeah,
because of the Schadur effects. So I'm looking I'm looking
forward to what Cam Woarred does this season. You you're
gonna be fine because you got some pieces the way
to work with too. You got some pieces to work with, So.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Joe, that's the same thing with Briddy James. We ain't
talking about not one first round draft pick. All the
talk about Broddi James and you know Cam Woard that
that that market he's in, that ain't a huge market,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
No, no, yeah, it is Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The name right yeah, uh Sanders James.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, I mean they talked.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They talked more about the fifty fifth pick in the
draft than they did the top two pick. And I
think the Wizards got one and the Hawks got the other. Now, Cam,
then you ain't got no talking on your back, bro.
That's everybody to come in, everybody that's a first round
draft pick. You a first round draft pick, people need
to say, and you're the number one overall draft pick.
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But they hey, they gonna check you i D every
game you go in, They checkingy i D. Make sure
you old enough to be in the club. They're gonna
make sure you old us to be in the club.
Veterans forty nine ers veteran left tackle Trent showed frustration
during practice because Nick Bosa kept beating him. Nick Bosas
(19:42):
beating tread with a lot of time. Trent yesterday had
a big reaction to a move of the ball period
uh that was dominated by Nick Bosa. The offense was
stopped by Nick Bosa. Trent came up the field exacerbated,
like he banged his thighs just it was frustrated.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I think that's great for the team.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think that's gonna push Trent to get better and
be better through our training camp, and he's gonna be
Trent Williams by the time September rolls around. I hate
to use iron shopping irons, but it's definitely what's happening
in camp. William is thirty seven and recently said that
he wants to play until his forties.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
M M, hey, listen, if you.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
In camp consistently, especially by somebody that's gonna frustrate you, well,
who better than Nick Bosa to get yourself who you
gotta get to because you're not gonna be facing Nick.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Bosas sixteen Nick Bosa's nah, absolutely no.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Excuse me, seventeen.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Now they got seventeen game, They're gonna be seventeen Nick Bosas. Hey,
but you got one over there, Jared Verse, he ain't no,
he ain't no victory.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, you're right undersized. Do we live underside? Look quicker?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, but hey, don't let that underside fool you.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, he can go now go and.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I think, uh the Cardinals got one of the Eagles
deepense lineman.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Oh one of them seven last year?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Not read it?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Uh no, not ready? He was a single digit though,
it was he was a single digit. If I'm not mistaken,
you think, so.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Who was it? Uh? Who the uh? Ash?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Who's that d lineman that went to uh.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Ok yeah Joshua.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a single digit?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Ash? Was he? I could have sworn yeah he was
a single digit because I swore he.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Was, because he's the one that said he could have
eaten been the uh Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, So they got they got some guys that didn't
get off the rock on you now. But you know,
trends coming to a trains coming out. I think Trent
with Nick last year, he came. He's coming off an injury.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
He had a few injuries. He was out along with
McCaffrey was out.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
They had a couple of guys, They had a couple
of guys out. They lost the uh uh the wide receiver.
Are you are you Brett Yep. A couple of DB's
her finger.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Look, it's not gonna be as easy important to think
because they lost a lot of guys. Drake Greenlaw with
late coming back, he's gone now. Uh the dB he
ended up going to the Colts.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Uh not not Ward?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah wait yep the Davy is Ward left?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yep, Yep.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
He was nice.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
That's why Andy paid him.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
He was nice.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
DeMar DeRozan went on Mello's pot and explained the difference
between being the young players now when he was their age.
Lamar said, I see that MOFO put his name on
Twitter search at halftime to see what they were saying.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Joe that, Joe that misbehavior like this, Joe.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Hey, in this new era, it's a lot different fellas halftime.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
He ain't lying now.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I'm sure you know a lot of these teams gonna,
you know, put these stipulations in where these guys can't
be using their phone at halftime. But a lot of
these casts, man, they on their phones at halftime checking
to see what's going on. It's just a it's almost
like a habit. It's a part of who they are
and what they do. They can't help it. You sit
in your lock up on the first thing you do,
pick up your phone, you go to scrolling. Yeah, we
(23:55):
ain't a at like and practice like they get a break. Yeah, guys,
go get on the phone. Then you know what I'm saying.
You know, called somebody, but but I came, Oh Joe,
can you imagine somebody.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Doing that a halftime of a game that ever happened.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I can't even I can't even talk trash on because
my my, my crazy game. I tweeted on the sideline
in the middle of the game, in the middle of
the preseason game.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't agree with that, but preseason. But
I'm talking about they talking about regular season.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
No, no, yeah, I wouldn't do nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
But I think we were playing Philly in the preseason
and I got hit real good. I'm talking about in
the real good to the point where I had to
I had to go and let everybody know I was okay.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
The tweet might still be up.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Well if you didn't take it down. Yeah, it's still up.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It's still still up there.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
We were playing the Eagles in the preseason and I
forgot the dude's name.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Uh, white, white fellow. You know he's really good. War
fifty five. I can't remember his name, but he caught
me on the slant. Oh.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I wanted to say Bruh's preseason, but had had to
sit there for a limited before I got up.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I was a little woozy m hm, and they took me.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's what's going on now, Wow, that's why they don't win.
Can you imagine what.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's like in high school and colle were in different times,
and now guys getting paid in college and high school too.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh yeah, we're in different times.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, I was a professional sport. Now it is, it is,
and you see what they're doing. You see the job
they try to limit. You see they try to libert
the n I l O Joe. You see that right?
Why did you know why they try to limit it
at the joke for the people that get the money
who they look like, Hey listen, hold on while you're talking.
(25:48):
They say they were gonna start doing a little back
paid on there.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now. I wanted to checked in on it, but they're
only going back like ten years. Yeah yeah, yeah you too,
O Joe.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You try to get a little black paid.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, y'all just trying to see what going on with Joe.
I ain't trying to rough up. I'm just trying to
see what going on.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
With that. I know they ain't going back to death
there forty years, because that's that wouldn't be. That's what
it be for me that y'all went to school today
six So I know I ain't get nothing.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's a better state. They had nobody to be paying nobody.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Nobody got no money to pay nobody now, so I
know they ain't getting no back paid.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
But I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I don't get this. Like I say, guys, when you're here,
you're here now. Now when when you home, Okay, be there,
do what you want to do, what you you want
to tweet, you want to do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But I don't. I don't. I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
At the half of a game, you checking what people
saying on Twitter, I g.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Whatever the case may be, really because.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
You're thinking, and you you're thinking, you're probably too locked
in even to even care about that, And yeah, yeah,
that's what I would be thinking. Like that's why our
phones are such a distraction nowadays. You got that when
I was in college and now y'all a little older
than me. But when I was in college, we ain't
have cell phones.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Man, look here, we ain't have cell phones. The bill
was so expensive. But uhuh phone now, man, you're gonna
get your calling card, call whoever you want to call.
That's how y'all talking. You talk that card up, you
go get your nothing, or you get somebody else calling card.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, Joe, I had I had a cell phone, Joe.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I had a little raisor I think a little two
thousand and too.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, I had a little phone.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
No, when I got to leave, people had two ways.
Nobody had no, didn't nobody have cell phones.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
In and who won? I had a cell phone, Joe.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
What but but but at that point, but to see
the thing, it was different. I mean it was different people.
I mean they took that stuff serious, man. And I
think the thing is now, Joe, is that like a
lot of the veterans have been like ushered out, and
so they're getting younger and younger and they you know,
and so all this stuff that a door now, But
(28:03):
yet that would be the man that that would be.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Oh oh goodness, gracious.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Times have changed.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It is times have changed, and you couldn't even go ahead, Joe,
could y'all could y'all even fathom like the things that
you could get into as a kid, bro and in
this time and era to where you got all these devices,
whether it's phones I passed.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's just too much, man, It's so many distraction nowadays.
It's hard to keep a lot of these dudes focused.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Man. It is it is. Yeah, it is too much.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Gotta want it. They gotta want it.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
That's the You gotta really want it to be function
and lock in during these times.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
You gotta want it.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, you do, You do it, Joe.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You gotta, okay, prioritize what's what's what's important, what's really important?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
And what I must have.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And and and the thing is like who am I
checking in on? They know where I'm at. I'm at
a game, and what you're doing playing the game?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Okay? You call me on.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Wednesday, Thursday and Friday on Joe, you call me at
ten o'clock kid thurday the morning?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Man?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
What you what you're doing practice? I'm watched you feel
I'm studying.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And you should first of all, why you calling me?
You should be at work? I never understood that on yo,
I don't. I didn't. I didn't understand why guys would
get out of the meeting and they go get on
the phone. Bro, you know what your unless somebody. I
get it, Okay, your wife and your girlfriend pregnant, expected
(29:44):
kids sick.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But y'all, first of all, if you gonna get on
the phone like this here, you ain't checking in and
see if somebody sick already.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Hey, it is.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Good over there.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
You know, left the little chick at the house, so
you know you gotta check it and make sure she's good.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
In between means please, it is Joe. It's different, Joe.
I mean, think about it. Think about when you came
in and when you left. Now, think about the time
ten years from now, what's gonna be like.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
The NB ain't gonna join it.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They're gonna join in on all the fun, all all
this stuff these dudes doing.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
They gonna have activities for, you.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Know, interview guys on the side like Repot have no
because you know, sometimes they talking to them, they talking
to the managers and things like that.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
They'll find a way to capitalize. You're right, Joe, They'll
find a way to capitalize. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Steph Curry on the shot that changed his life. It's
the shot against Gonzaga. I really felt like that was
a difference maker. Not to say I wouldn't have been
able to figure it out had we lost, but that
was a big moment.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh Joe, what of the play that changed your life?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
The player that changed my life, especially from a receiver standpoint,
was dropping the ball. It wasn't even catching the ball.
I'd never forgets. Rest in peace, Oliver Gibson. We were
playing the Innianapolis coach. I think it might have been
my rookie year, maybe my second year. But to keep
a drive going, we went for it on fourth down,
to keep a drive going, to go down and maybe
tie the game or actually win the game.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Unk.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
I dropped the goddamn slam on fourth down and here
I am crying, getting just you know, all of the gifts,
and came up to me, grabbed me by, grabbed me
by my shirt. It's a picture of it too, I
posted on Twitter when he passed away, grabbed me up
by my shirt. Man, if you don't stop that crying,
because you're gonna have another opportunity to.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Win us a game, change everything. But I got on
that drug machine and just this. It was different after that.
From that point, I hadn't even become Chad Johnson yet
than nobody at.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That point yep.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
After dropping that game and realized I just cost this
a game, Yep, loss is a game.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And I always told myself from that point on, I'll
either be one of the reasons why we're in a
game or we win games from that point on.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, anything happened to me.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
In nineteen ninety nine, I dropped the touchdown that would
have given us home field throw out the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I still I still think about that play. Oh, Joell
man have made so sweet, had me a oh at tie,
oh your end tight emotion out linebacker with with me
like niggas say, I just ate it on it, Oh
y'all think to day, y'all right here, I'm already thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh, I'm bet to do this. I'm fit to do that.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Right. It went right through your hands.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Right through them, right through them, Ojo.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
But that's the worst for you.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
The boy drop the ball in the south en zone. Man,
I'll never forget. And I came to the sideline students
so will say, hey, shuck you'll get it back. You'll
get it back. And I'm like, you know the opportunity
they're gonna come because it was, oh Joe. It wasn't
like I was the number one receiver. They're gonna be
feeding me balls right right. They won't be feed me
(33:20):
that were throwing me no balls like that. Okay, okay,
there wasn't gonna be throwing me football They wasn't feeding
me footballs like that.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
There you go bad.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So I knew that opportunity was gonna come back that day.
It might come back at a later day in time,
but it wasn't coming back that day. And I remember,
oh Joe, and so I dropped that play. And then
at Wednesday's practice, man, I was catching. I was catching everything.
I mean, I was taking stuff off of my shoe tops.
(33:58):
I was making stuff one handed. And Dad Reeves said,
I mean, he's like, I showed what you to call
that one on Sunday like this.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Sometimes say, listen, sometimes you relax it the wrong times. Yep,
anytime I dropped the ball, it's because I relaxed.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Oh Shore, you know what I did. I didn't extend.
I did this. That's the ball.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And yeah, damn and so the ball just like, damn.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Boy, that hurt, boy, that hurt, that hurt, that hurt.
I remember going home crying. I called my brother.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
He said, man, what's wrong? I said, Man, you went
you got home.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I was crying on the in the middle of the field. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I wouldn't let to see I could'tlet him see me
crying because it'show id Abad have said. Somebody had to
swing on somebody on the field or make you got jokes.
Don't listen, man, I was in that car, Bet, I
was in that car. Cry like, man, a matter of fact,
Oh you had a photo blaze. I never forget had
a photo blazer.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Boy, Damn you know you know me, boy, I let
them tear his flat. Boy, I don't. I don't care
where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Mmm, but I think hurt that hurt.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Uh. And And I agree with Steph and he's like,
I'm not not saying that I couldn't have figured it
out at a later dayton time, but I believe that
was the moment that he's like, hold on, we're.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Davidson, that's Ganzaga.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And they you know, they always in the playoffs. They
always wanted to, you know. And when he took them down. Look,
I had never seen anbody shoot the ball like that,
not not from that kind of distance, not just pulling
up like that. He was, you know, like he's six
d like the average. He got six five six four
sixty five.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
And he just letting it go.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I mean, he dad's don't folks in shorts like threeside
like they've made for his dad. You know what I'm
saying that he just let it fly. Damn he definitely
left his mark Man Davidson.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I wonder what so many three point shooters that have
come along, what separated Steph and made him as good
as he is, what made him so green. I'm just they.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Gave him the green light to do it. You see
pride to Steph. Only half of think about it, Oh Joe,
everybody shooting threes? Now, that was how many times? That's
a bad Steph. There's no shot that Steph takes that
people actually believe in a bad shot. That shot, right,
People were shooting some of the shots that Steph shoot
(36:55):
routinely into the first quarter, end of the half end
of the shot clock. Right, Stephan shooting that shot with
fifteen sixteen seconds on the shot clock on the shot clock,
but somebody had to give him the confidence saying that's okay.
Mark Jackson was that guy. Now he shot that. But
come to the NBA, guys wasn't shoot those shots like
(37:16):
Steph Like I mean, Dad, Reggie was a catching shoot.
Ray was a little was catching shoot. But he could
Steph can dance and launch it from the timeline. Yeah,
you literally have to pick step up at half court
or he'll let it go right.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And you think because with his ability to be able
to create separation and create his own shot, that makes
it that much more easier for him.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yes, absolutely, because and plus the thing is if you
hug up on it, because he can.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Have it, he can put it on the floor and
get by you. Yeah, by you.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, he can get all the way to the rim.
So now and then he runs constantly. He does get
tired because the first thing, if you get tired, your
shot goes you short.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
M h.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
He's he's probably the best conditioned athlete because nobody's running
as much as he does.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
He run a lot. He run a lot, and he
just let it fly and be confusing when I think
about basketball and you know you're playing the Warriors, and
as much as Steph run like me.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
You know how when you play defense and in the dB, say,
listen there in a bunch, we're gonna band you it.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
If you come in your air, you just pick him up. Man,
I forget man, just zone so you don't got to
run all over.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
The place happening.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Okay, and get and guess what happens now when they
backpick that zone. Guess what, Steph wide open, They're gonna run.
They're gonna run it. They're gonna run you off so
many screens.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's that sucks.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And the thing is, and when you miss a shot,
you would think, because they're such a small team they
are small, yeah, that they're not gonna They're one of
the better rebounding teams. So when they get these long
rebounds off the karum, Steph automatically goes to reset. So
now you play zone. Okay, he go reset to one
(39:09):
of those corners. He'll he'll get it and he'll come
all the way across in the corner and then he'll
come up. I'm crazy, but giving you confidence like to
shoot shooting son, No words, We're not gonna take you
out shoot the ball.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Hey, nobody else got the green ad like he does.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Huh oh, they like, guy's got it now, but he
made it. Okay, Now you see everybody shooting threes, don't
shore They shooting down there? Seventy a game between the
two teams.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
They they're not as efficient as he is.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
No, but if you think about it, at this point
in time, Buddy Hill is ahead of where Steph Curry
was with threes made Anthony Edwards. Yes, because nobody was
shooting him. They're shooting of him now right, Look at
they centain them. Look how many threes he shoots a game?
Look how many a man shoots a game. Buddy Hill,
(40:05):
even though Buddy wasn't a star, Buddy was coming and
let the three go. Everybody, let everybody let the three go.
Now it's the three, and everybody think this Steph Curry
and you watching like.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
A AAU kids every age group, and they shoot, They
shoot him from three.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
They're throwing the ball because they can't they can't shoot
it because they're so small.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
They throw
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