Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the wildest NFL headlines of the week! The duo dives into the Cleveland Browns owner admitting Shedeur Sanders wasn’t his draft pick, Mike Tomlin’s growing “bromance” with Aaron Rodgers, and Christian Wilkins kissing in Las Vegas. HUH? Unc and Ocho break down the drama, front office tension, and what these stories mean for the upcoming NFL season.
0:00 - Rookies making mistakes
7:49 - Browns Owners says Shedeur Sanders wasn’t his pick
25:58 - Mike Tomlin, Aaron Rodgers Bromance?
37:59 - Christian Wilkins playful kiss?!?!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Luther Burton the Third was kicked off the field and
chewed out by Ben Johnson after issue that the line
of scrimmage doing teen drills. Burden missed several weeks of
practice with a hamstring injury, and Johnson said it is
hindered his progress learning the system. It shows up already.
I mean we were in walk through yesterday afternoon. The misalignment.
We have to re huddle, we have to start it
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all over again. He's a little bit behind right now.
Burden the Third responded very well to the accountability that
Johnson gave him early in your career. Did you ever
have to accept accountability coming up shorten practice or in
the game.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, hell yeah, Man, I forget mabe. You don't move me.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm I'm a wire receivo Joe. They will move me
to tight end. They tell me to play on Joe,
I go in motion. I stopped, Man, what's the play again?
What I got, hey, y'all laughing there you ask me,
I'll be going, Hey, I go in motion, go to
the tackle, turn the right to come back.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Man, what I got? I forgot? What I got? Bad?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Dad?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
God, dang it, Shannon, I don't know what you want to
tell you, Dad. I forgot to play.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I remember them days, man.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
They sent me in the game. I forgot to play
coming into the game.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hey cause we used to run play like every play
we bring somebody in the game. Dad got his hand
on my shoulder, give me the play. I go in there,
he Yoe, you run how many game on?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Y'all, y'all look at me, t look at me like tee,
what's the play?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I forgot? Hey? Hey, it'll happen quick too. Oh, booket
it Joe out bookt at the game too. I'm like, man,
I'm in the game. How many we gave believes d
D what's the play?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I forgot?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Hey? Hey, hold on and basketball ojo and doing like
a time out they might coach might draw up three players. Okay,
we're gonna run this play then come back down next trip.
We're gonna run this play, then next trip down court,
we're gonna so he got three plays and then drawn up.
You may go out there on defense and you mess
around and you know, get a couple of trips to
where y'all make got steals or you know things. Yes, man,
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you forget everything. And man, that drew up over there.
That's how I know you be so locked in. Yeah,
it was the second play.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You go to ask your teammate. They don't even know that. See,
that's what that's how we do. No huddle, Ojo. We
called two plays in the huddle, first one on one second.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What we got?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Ye? No, Man, I never forget that, man, I man,
I was. I was so embarrassed. Man, Hey, I didn't
even look at the sideline because I know bad because
coach Coach reeld.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Get so bad.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Coach returned red and he had this big old, big
old vein. I mean it be bulging out of his neck.
Because back then coaches wore suits on the sideline. On Joe,
Coach Rees wore a suit. You know, coach, you go
back and look at Coach Dicky. He have on sweater
vests and things like that. So coach coach Rees was
dressed to the nine.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Coach Ree was so bad over there, hey, you put
it getting that told of that play and I got
out and ran in there and forgot all about that play.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's the worst feeling.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh Joe, you and everybody looking at me like, damn,
how you forgetting to play? How you forgetting to play
from the sideline to the hottle? I guess Joan jarred
my memory. Look, that's like one of forgetting to play
and probably being late to like practice.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That's them like the worst feelings, man.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The practice, late the meetings and having.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah yeah yeah, and they already in there going through
the meeting. You gotta walk.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Oh man, that's that's the worst. That's the worst.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm a I'm late for the meeting. I play the game.
They're a offensive player of the game. She had a shark.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And you was late for the meeting. I said, man,
why is somebody he on behalf of mister Sharpe.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I like to except this award on his behalf like
they do at the Oscars, like they do at the
Grammars or something.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Mad man, Hey we got a snow, Hey we got
a storm.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Uh we have played Carolina that Sunday we beat the
braces off Carolina, and uh I cooked them o Joe
cooked them, say them for a buck seventy four. Man,
that's no just another would not cooperate.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It couldn't get couldn't get to practice.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Huh. Now it was team mean because we give out
we give out of the offense, defensive place, team player
of the game that Wednesday, and and the Mike's morning meeting.
So defensive player of the game, this many tackles a pick. Uh,
you know, sack blah blah blah, you know, offensive player
the game. You know, John to be TD. Most time
it was TD. Could be quite honest.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Uh but.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, but that's that's a bad feeling because they a
as a matter of fact, I walk it in, they
get ready to break the team meeting.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's the worst feeling, bro.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That is because the thing, it's one thing to be late.
It's to me the means miss it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Huh you was that late?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Mate, man, that meeting don't take that long because like say,
a great game, you know, blah blah blah, you know, congratulations.
That's the way, you know, play start to finish. Play fans.
I love everybody where is engaged. Offensive player of the game,
Defensive player of the game, specially teams player the game.
So the meeting ain't gonna go but like six and
seven minutes, right, Being the leader is one thing, mister.
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The meeting is something intollege.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Mister.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
The meeting might cost you know, five hundred dollars, I
mean lay for the meeting might cost five hundred. You know,
Missing the meeting gonna cost two thousand. Yeah, so yeah, yeah,
I understand. And it's like I said, I need to
be there. See it's hard to like pick up stuff
where like you injured and they go on those plays,
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O sho, I need to walk through. I need I
need to be I need to be there. And you
know you you hurt you on the sideline. It ain't
the same. It ain't the same, an a. And in
this situation, they are installing new every day. So if
you got if you're not up to date on this today,
guess what that's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
We ain't talking about this no more.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
We we on page two and guess what, we don't
pay three, and we don't pay four. And then they
come back and they go then they start implementing stuff
from page one, two, three, four, five.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh lord, bersa, y'all, Joe bad, I know what you
mean I'm sry. I do.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Man, you miss one of the me or you mess
around and be late, boy, you're gonna feel lost.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, man, I had to I had to get I
had to get caught up. I had to guy, I said, Man, Man,
I just went home with off Caesar and I just still.
I said, I got to know this stuff from them backwards.
I say, ain't no way acting bad. They're gonna miss
run and cut me if I don't know this stuff.
All right, Guys, Brown's on the Jimmy Haslom felt the
need of unprompted to tell the media yesterday that your
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door Sanders was not his pick. Let's take a listen
to what the owner had to say about selecting your door.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Good process.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay, and if you just told me so you picked
him on Saturday, right Friday night, driving home the old
pic your door, I would say that that's not happening.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But we had a conversation earlier that morning.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Uh, in your conversation later that day, area the right
people involved in.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
The conversation, or if at the end of the day,
that's Andrew Barry's call, if you made the call to
pict your door, just like, who's gonna start or.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
What play we're gonna call is Kevin's call, but that's
that's Andrew's call and made me talk. Yeah, who asked
him that?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Why did he Why did he feel the need to
share that information on Joe?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Nobody? That's what unprompted. So you drift, Mitch, ain't.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Nobody asked you what round did you think you were
gonna take your new in?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Why did you take? Nobody asked you that?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, and so he felt the need and I get it,
Yes he's the owner, but it's like, I'm like, bro,
if y'all felt, if you feel this wall by your door,
why y'all still got the mand be cause they seemed
like every time I turn around, oh Joe, somebody trying
to take a dig at it.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, well I got I got a question. I have
a question for the chat and uncle Joe. I'm not
sure if y'all know how long did Jimmy has them
been with the Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Browns A long ass time, A long time.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
So since two thousand, the Cleveland Browns has had thirty
five different starting quarterbacks. In two thousand, thirty five different
starting quarterbacks. But now you're going to take it for yourself,
to say that Shador saying is one your pick, and
that's probably why it's gonna work, because you had no
dealings and him being drafted.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm watch ow God work, Watch how God work?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
What about all the mother picks you had who pickedould
they he is?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But he hey, listen, he never he never came out
before and said.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Nobody else never never did before.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Hey, hey, when I look at it, When I look
at it, unco, I just like how a young man
going about itself man should do you know.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Like, there's no there's no better way to go about
this than keep your head down and keep working.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Bro. He's uh.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I think he's been doing a phenomenal job at that obviously.
I think everybody's been keeping up with what's been going
on in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I know I have, UH.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And he looked like he looked like he looks comfortable
out there first and foremost, and he looks like he's
still enjoying the game, man.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And I think this is.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Just more you know, fuel to the fire as opposed
to it's gonna help him out throughout the regular season,
throughout his season, or throughout his NFL career in general.
So I understand what what what the owner said, but uh,
I think she do it doing an awesome job with
all this that's going around, and you can see he's
in the community. Not only is he in the community,
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but he looked like he's playing his butt off. Now
I don't know how much. I don't know how much
any of this way with you know, what he's been
doing in you know, in the OTAs and off season
and camp and all that. But I mean, I test,
don't lie, bro. I know you know, they ain't out
there hitting or nothing like that. But he looks comfortable out.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Then well, it's really hard for me to say because
from everything that I read, he gets one or two
reps with the first team and one or two reps
period and that's it. It's reported that his dad wanted
to come to camp just like he went to a Tampa.
He said, nah, daddy said Dad. He said, I might
get three or four reps. He says, I'm not where
I want to be. But what if reported is being
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reported is true. But once I get to where I
want to be, come on up then, right. But I
don't get this. It was that was that was an
Andrew Barry's pick and just like the guys that play
that's such and such. So all these quarterbacks that y'all had,
and I mean you have Baker, So who's pick with
(11:54):
Baker and Baker? Look, Baker had had had a decent
and he got injured and for whatever reason, you know,
Baker's telling the story. They wanted him to, you know,
turn tone it down a little bit and would let
him be himself. And you see, Baker is like himself
in Tampa and he's thriving. Now does he have a
better collection of wide receivers around him and Tampa that
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he had in Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yes, he does, he does.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Ain't no sense in us trying to fool fooler said
he has the same level of skill position players around him,
Because he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
He just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But I don't get why Jimmy Haslam felt the need
to take this shot that should do it? Oh uh,
you know, if you'd have told me we were gonna
take him, I was like, that's not gonna happen or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
He said. Why? I mean, I mean, why, why why
do you need to say that? O Joe?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
You know what they're trying to do. You know what
they're trying to do. Break trying to break him. They
use the draft trying to break him. We're gonna make
him wave. Okay, now he's here, he's doing everything he's
supposed to do, doing everything he's supposed to do plus
the extra.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Then okay, how can we break him?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Now?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
He's out here playing very well. I told you, I
told you, hey, listen, May's over that man, May and.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
As is over there.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I don't need to be there to see and here
they with me? Now, So what do we do now?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
He's playing well, he's got the offense down, he's not
making too many mistakes, he's throwing touchdowns where he's running.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
With the one to two three of the falls. So
what do we do now? The one has to come
out and try to break him, break his spirit a
little bit, I.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Want, but listen, but why though?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Is it because of what they may seem to be
as flamboyant in college? Because he would a jewelry, he
would the ice? Yes, is part of who he is, man,
It's just part of his swag. That's how he grew up.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Hey, really, Joe, Honestly, that's all the collegiate athletes coming
out of college this year.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Everybody got THETD.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
They got a little bread, and so it seemed like
to me a weaker tell the guys already. I know
people say, hey, you can you maintain confidence, but when
you're not getting any run, and you used to like
I'm a prime example of that. I used to call
my brother. I said, man, I ain't get no run today.
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All he said, just be ready, he said, John Ellwire
gonna call your number, but make sure when he called
your number. I like, man, you keep saying that. You
said that yesterday, he ain't call my number. I said,
you keep I'm saying to myself, you keep saying that,
but it ain't happening. And sure enough. But I was like,
I ain't got nothing but time. The way I looked
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at it, Joe and O Joe is that as long
as I'm here, I still got a chance. It's like
when I'm no longer there, I don't have a chance
to make the team. So as long as I can stay,
the longer I stay, because guess what, I'm gonna do something.
Y'all gonna put me somewhere and I'm gonna flash something.
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I'm gonna make a catch. I'm gonna you're gonna put
me on special teams. I'm gonna do something that you say,
you know what, that came from Savannah State. He too big,
too strong, too fast, not for us to.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Find a play. Hey, create a create a job for me.
Hey we we hire right.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
And the funny the funny thing about it is all
the turmoil, all the all the negativity, but it's coming
from the Cleveland media, whether it's coming from the owner
gym has him and saying he wasn't my pick. When
that preseason starts and he gets his opportunity, the cream
is gonna rass at the top no matter what, because
you're good at doing one thing. He's good at playing football. Yes,
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he's good at playing football.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
He's been a.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Winner from Jackson State, the goddamn Colorado. And now you're
in a different environment and that journey starts all over again,
even with.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
The enemy that's right in your backyard against you.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Mm hmm. Sometimes that's that's really hard to overcome. O yo.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
When when it seems like the people rooting again, that's
right there. I mean, I thought, I thought, I thought
we was all in this thing together. It don't seem
like it.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I sell you what I tell you who on the side, though,
I tell you who on the side when that goddamn
when that goddamn stadium started rooting, started screaming for Shador,
when that god damned dog Pound start going crazy and
the Chance starts start shouting for Shador when.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Things ain't going right with the Browns.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
All right, I guarantee you know what, watch watch how
to play out.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I just hope, I just hope he's still he's around
long enough for those said things to happen.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That that that that's because think about it, Oh Joe,
you signed Joe Flacco eighteen years Well, you know he's
not He's year eighteen. He's not your answer long term.
You re signed Kenny Pickett hoping that he got a
little hamstring tweak. So now basically it's Dylan Gabriel uh
uh and your door. But it seemed like Flacco and
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get Gabriel and and Flacco getting all the reps. That's
what the appears to me from what I read.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm not I'm not you know, following it that close
because that you know, put all that time in there,
and guys that you're watching, they're not gonna be there.
So as they get to the preseason on show we
get the game or two, and so we'll get a
better understanding, a better feel like okay, this kid, you know,
get an opportunity to see them guys play, like, okay,
he can play, because I want to see guys play
against somebody playing somebody else just trying to make a team.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Also, you don't know, y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Don't walk off the field talking hey man, hey, you
know what you're gonna do tonight, or well you know
what you what you know such and such. Hey, I
want to see you go against another guy in another
colored uniform that's in the same situation that you are.
He's trying to make he's trying to live out his fantasy.
He's trying to live out his dream. He's trying to
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make sure his mom and his grandma, and if he
has a kid or a girlfriend or significant other, he's
trying to make sure they're taken.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Care of, just like you.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But this, I'm shocked by what Jimmy Haslam had to
say because nobody asked you. Nope, this was something that
you probably should have asked. Oh Joe, after the draft,
you asked, you asked this, Okay, So what was your
thought process taking your door in the fifth round. Oh
you know, they said the grade they had on him,
the grade they had and the grade they had. So
that's when you're like, well, hey, we felt that, you know,
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we had this grade. Now rounds between rounds four and five,
if he's there, we're gonna grab it. Okay. But that's
a couple. That's a day after the draft. That's two
days at worked at best work case. That's a week
after the draft.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
O joe. The drift was in April.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
After the drift was in April, and here we are.
That's Le's May junely. That's three that's three months if
we're talking about that's an Andrew Barry pick.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
And listen, I can understand if if your decision making
in the past, as if you the guy damn quarterback
whisper yes, coming out and saying something like that and
being confident about it, like you yeah, golden when it
came to picking quarterbacks, your last thirty five with your
picks and none of them. So probably this one that
you had nothing to do with, that might be the answer.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
If you Green Bay, y'all got bred Fog and then
you get Aaron Rodgers and now you got George Love,
I would say, well, you know what, hey, o Joe, Joe,
he might be on this something now right right, half,
they about to have fifty years of prosperity at the
quarterback position. But when you've had thirty five years of
turmoil and chaos at the quarterback position, with the exception
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of maybe a year or two here or there, you
got one year Derek Anderson, you got a couple of
years with Baker. But other than that, let's be realistic. Now,
come on, Browns really and.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And she do what strikes me as a guy, you know,
when them lights come on, Uncle Ojo, I feel like
he's gonna perform at the highest level, you know what
I mean, Like he gonna put on you know what
I mean? That's that's the type of guy. He strikes
me in. So, man, I'm gonna be paying attentions to
brown See what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Now?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They got four quarterbacks over there, right? What they what
they gonna do? Okay with y'all, I don't see a
team keeping four quarterbacks. And I you know, part a
part of me, a part of me hope they like
try to put him on the practice squad and somebody
comes signing.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Mm hmm. So they so you can carry you know,
they'll carry three quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's too many positions because the quarterbacks don't play special teams.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So you got it though, because.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
There's only there's only forty six guys, those spots are valuable. Normally,
you carrying a guy, a wide receiver that could you know,
he can play multiple positions. He can play the eggs,
he can play the Z, he can play the slot,
and he plays special team. Same thing with a linebacker,
same thing with the swing offensive lineman. He can play guard,
he can play tackle. Okay, so that's what you're looking at.
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I'm looking at a guy that can play multiple positions
because if I get somebody to go down, what can
a quarterback do? Side quarterback? Maybe you'll you'll hope maybe
maybe in high school, Oh Joe, he punted or kicked
to something. But for the most part, you keep If
you're gonna keep somebody extra, it's gonna be a wide
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receiver of dB, somebody that can play special teams. That's
why they say, hey, special teams is the quickest way
to earn a place on the roster unless you wanted
the top Now you top dog I mean, we get that,
you Joe Burrow or Chase or somebody like that, Lamards,
we get that. But guys that are not that are
not extra like say Starter that when Hey runs up,
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he runs on the field, and when it's farm down
he comes off the field and he ain't got to
stay out there for punting special team. The more you
can do, the longer you can play. The more you
can do, the longer you play. And but I I don't.
I didn't like this at all because, like I said,
here we are three months in Ojo and this man
(21:51):
talked about that's a Andrew Berry pick.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's trying to break him up. It's all my games.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
They are they are, they are. They did what they did.
They like, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna show you.
We're gonna we're gonna show Coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
They talk about you know, the Mannings, and everybody looked
at the man, even Eli did what he did, and
you know Arch and you know, so forth and so on.
They're like, Nah, you're not gonna do that. We're gonna
show you do. We're gonna start it right here, and
then we're gonna take a little further. We only gonna
give your handful of reps and we will make how hey,
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if I'm trying to break it, they say they put
you in solitary. Solitary, oh shoe, because they say, you know,
we used to communicate it, and when there's no one
to communicate to you, and all you can do is
hear your heart beat and all the only the only
communication is going on in your own head.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And you know what, that could be a good thing.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Sometimes you put people in solitary confinement, right, and and
it doesn't more It doesn't more good than harm because
it gives you too much time.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
To think, Yeah, I want to be a solitary away
from you, sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, I wanted to be a solitary over your cause
I want to be away from you. Sorry moos. So
y'all might rub off on me, they love. I think
he definitely locked in, though you can see it, bro well,
he he doesn't really, he really doesn't have a choice.
I think I think time has done a great job
time dealing with what he's dealing with, because think about it, now,
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that's still time. So but in the meantime, I've got
to deal with what I've got to deal with. I've
got something gravely going on with me and I got
two sons that because the only coach that should do has.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Ever had has been Time.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
He's the only only to play for his dad, played
for his daddy, Jay played for his dadd in high
school and coming up he coached them in Pop Warner.
Time used to take them kids all over the place.
They play Snoop Dogg. They played, end up playing Snoop Dogg.
When because the Time and I went to the hall together. Uh,
they playing all up in Texas. They coming, they coming,
and they driving playing other teams. I think they they
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played while they was up there in there in Canton.
So that's the only coach you've ever had. And now
my dad's think about it. Man, my dad dealing with something.
I don't know, you know what's really going on, because
Tom said, you know, I really didn't let the boys
know what was really going on because they got to
focus on that. The last thing is to let your
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mind wand ojo. You know when you in camp, Hey,
I'm here. That's what I tell when you hear you
gotta be here now now when you over there, deal
with whatever you gotta deal with over there. And don't
worry about here. But when you hear, you gotta be here.
And so I think Time did a great job of
shielding him, not telling them the extent of what's really
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going on with him, so he can stay locked in.
Especially we know how hard the quarterback position is to
play Ojo. The last thing you need is to be
worried about man pop's Man, say, pop, Pops really messed
up right now, Man, I ain't getting no burn. Pop
I was messed up on a trip and saying all
kind of crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, man, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's like I said, you don't know what a person's
going through. You don't know. Uh, you know, you try
not to. You try to compartmentalize. When I'm here, Joe,
I'm here, and like when i'm when I'm done, I'll
deal with whatever I need to deal with off the field.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I'll deal with that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Then. Man, you just say, man, I can, I can.
I can brain work home, but I can't take you
to work. And that's how it is. You can't because
they tell you, oh yeah, there's there's more important things
than sports. They line they say that for for the public,
for public, for public. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, No,
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when you play a professional sports, oh Joe, they're making
a buddy le clear.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The most important thing is that sport. So do it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Keep your head up, keep plugging away, boy, do your thing.
Mike Tomlins says he had a with Aaron Rodgers. Thomas said,
it was kind of a romance for me. I was
just excited to get to know the guy on a
personal level.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
We have some cool, interesting conversations about football, about life,
about where he is in his career, and what he's
was potentially looking for. Oh jo, how long do you
think the Roman's last? The Steelers don't start if they
don't start winning.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Listen, remember remember listener, winning wins or losses, depending regards
to how it goes.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Remember how Aaron Rodgers treated Robert Salo.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah remember the interaction on the sideline, the pushing and
shoving off.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
The type of reasons for the head coach. Now, what
won't happen whether they're winning or losing. Now, Mike Tomlin,
ain't playing that. Oh no, oh that ain't that ain't
gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. So, whether they're winning
or losing, I think the relationship between those two because
there's a certain amount of respect that he has from
Mike tom and what he's been able to accomplish in Pittsburgh.
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I think everything would be just fine. Everything would be
just fine. All you have to do is listen.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
If Russell Wilson can do what he did last year,
and Justin Fields can do what he did last year,
Aaron Rodgers being at the him, she'd be able to
do just that, do what they ask, don't turn the
ball over and let the defense win the game for you.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah. Plus he doesn't come in.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
With what he went into the jets were they got
on private jets, they cought a They're like, look this
is what we got.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Take a leave it. Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You know Mike Tomlin runs the show. Yeah, the moment
you you go get around the cab, the moment you
go get Alan Lazard, you've seated all controlled to Aaron Rodgers.
Because now you're giving up control. You you're like, okay,
well I want this, I want that, I want this,
I want that. The moment the kids starts screaming and
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you give him what he wants. So Joe, you to
see the control.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Right right, But that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
That's not gonna happen in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
No, No, absolutely, But you have to understand the Jets
start with that control and we we you allowed we
allowing you to take the keys to the team and
put the pieces around you. They felt that's what you
needed to succeed. It just didn't happen the way that
they saw.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, you gotta what I think it would have had
he bought all the way in when Tampa turned it
over to Tom, what did Tom do? He bought all
the way in when Demver turned it, turned it over
to Peyton, he bought all the way in.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's not what Aaron Dead was halfway in, halfway in.
He locked in now though, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Hey, y'all allowed me to write to be wrong on this,
but uh, I think for the Jets he had to be.
He had to be pretty spectacular for them to win, right,
I think with the stealers because their defense is pretty
good and I don't think it'd be a whole lot
of pressure on him. Plus he got a lot of
he got some help offensively to where he'll be a
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lot better I think for the Stealers than he was
for the Gints.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I think the offensive line is better. But the problem
that they ran in And this is what I said,
And I remember having this conversation. I said, oh, Joe,
you're saying he just needs to be Aaron Rodgers. I said, now,
what happens if that defense isn't what it was for
those other quarterbacks Zach Wilson. So let's just say for
the sake of argument, that defense slips a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, and you see.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
As guys starting to get older, Joe and I don't
know how it is in basketball, you could speak to this,
but as guys get older at the quarterback position, they
need more help. Whereas guys Aaron Rodgers five years ago,
six years ago, no problem.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Are you gonna put the sisters of noise that that
with him? He would have succeeded.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
He could do it. But as you saying, older, you
need more help. Alah Tom goes to Tampa, Alah Peyton
goes to Denver. Look at the receiving help that he had,
Look at the running backs, look at the offensive line,
all those things going to play. I do believe he
has a better offensive line than what he has. Okay,
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he got DK, they lost pickings, they got Calvan Austin
the third. So they got some players. So we'll see.
We'll see Warren the running back. We'll see how that,
how that turns out. But I don't think he needs
to be forty touchdown, Aaron, I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I don't think they have a forty touchdown offense.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Could be you could be right. I could be right,
you could be right.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I see that, respectfully, The Bengals have a forty touchdown
offense for sure.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Absolutely, yes, yes, yes, you know why because they defense
aren't very good. Because they're gonna be played. They're gonna
be in some shootouts. It's just real talk. They're gonna
be a shootout.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
They don't talk.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Come on, that's how you get the team, man.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
But they're gonna be. Oh, y'all defense they're not very good.
You see, y'all lost games forty one, thirty eight. Y'all
lost thirty eight, thirty five. Y'all lost thirty four thirty one. Right,
you're right, y'all, Yeah, y'all gonna be a game like that.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Listen, listen, this is new year. Though this is a
new year, we don't we don't know what's gonna happen.
Matter of fact, we got football tomorrow too. I forgot
about that.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, oh, this is the last This is the last weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You won't have football until middle of February. So moving forward,
you got preseason, and then you know, you got college,
and then you got NFL college, NFL college NFL and
then when the college go and then you have bold season,
you have playoffs.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So yeah, hey, is here? Now? Is here? Now?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Devonte Adams clears the era with Jimmy g during Dark Time.
It's raiderst teammate. It's amazing. I love Jimmy. He said
it was never a personal thing. I was hoping we
didn't have to have these conversations, but I'm surprised this
is the first time it's been brought up. But it's
been amazing. We got to catch up on and get
get on the right page. Obviously, that was just the
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dark moment in all of our lives. I think all
of us were pretty miserable over there. We kind of
caught up and laughed about it, and we've been making
plays since we got out here.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's so it's been fun.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
And either one of you guys ever had an awkward
fallout with a team former teammate and had to squash
the beef once you guys became teammates again.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Joe, You nah, I ain't never.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I ain't never had no no beef with none of
my teammates or none of that.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Nah, you didn't that, Joe Man.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
No, I was a fun guy, Joe.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I mean the same way I am on the store
and just saying what was on in the locker room,
same way I was on the field, like there was
there was there was a that was just fun man.
That was a fun dude, Joe. I ain't had no
problem with nobody. I think I got I got in
the one skull for one time, but with safety uh
training camp MADEU Williams.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Uh yeah, and that was that was that was it?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I mean I left left Denver, went to Baltimore, left Baltimore,
went back to Denver.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Now, I never had an awkward fallout. We had to
squash b.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I mean, well, well, Joe, I had that one, that
one fight, Joe, like when we played we played the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I think I told you, Joe, I don't think I
told you that story. We played the Ravens. We was
we was at uh bn T.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
What's the name of stadium?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
You know towards the end of the game, you know, Joe,
I went to catch a slant. Carson threw me a slant, right, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
A little high, and I jumped for it anyway, right, Joe,
stay with me now. And so I seen Ray at
the corner of my eye am a peripheral vision. I like,
I don't even come for to try to go get
it anyway, and I was like, oh, the boss will hap.
I started to come down and Ray hit me on
the side of the air hole and I'm like, well,
wait a minute, that was Ray.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
They just hit me.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
We just prayed before the game, so I know, I
know the Lord ain't tell you to hit me like that.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
So Joe, I jumped up right, and I I like
went after him.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I was finished square.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
With right, Hey, I was for to put his hands
on you, right, but then boom, I think Ed re
grabbed me. So when Ed grabbed me, I was like, nah,
You're gonna have to answer for that. That's what I
said in my mind. So after the game, right, Joe, Yeah,
I went to the Ravens locker room.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I went looking for Ray. So I walked.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I walked in the locker room and securited like, hey.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He ain't no way. It was, yeah, he can't, you.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Can't be here.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
So I waited, they was so I waited in the
parking lot. But then the team bus hit the horn
for me to go, and that kind of like saved
me from whoop and raised ass.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
But you just wanted, you just want to get something straight.
You wasn't really gonna put.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Like like Joe before every game. I oh, for God
for a decade straight. Joe for a decade straight. We
didn't miss one game, Me and Rate. He gave me
a scripture. We sat on the phone, we read the
scripture before we went to play the game, whether we
were playing each other or not consistently for a decade straight.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
How the hell?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
We just prayed before the game and you hit me
like that.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, he prayed, he' gonna knock your hands out and
Joe out.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Hey, Joe, listen, it would have took all twelve Disciples
to give me off a rate boy if I would
accord him after that game, Hey.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
You should have called him right down on the field, No.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Because I would have got fined. So I would listen.
You know, you know how it go when you're angry
you don't think logically.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
So if every had to help me, I would have
turned that fifty two upside down.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That bitch with a red twenty five.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You did the right thing, grab your helbert because he
docked your halbert smoothed off.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
You thought your head was in it was flying, Joe.
You went and picked your head it up like damn
that boy, he's something maw. Hey, hey, hey here Florida
boy too.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Huh yeah, yeah, boy, right right from Lakelan right up
the street, man, right right right up the street.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, y'all love No, but that that you know better.
He called me.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
He called me the same way he caught me under
my chair on the deep because yeah he got you too,
got me too, and I was trying to break it in.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Hit me right aboard of my chair. I say, take it,
ain't re touching anything. Come pass for shure. Yeah yeah,
hey that boy wasn't nothing nice right there. Boy, Oh
ya look at it. Ll look what I got. Uh
huh that's Piggings. That's little piggy. Yeah, old pig man.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I knew.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I knew it was pig soon as I saw that
damn face. Man, I said, they got to be pick helming.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Crawling.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Nice boy, Hey, man, ain't pick like heiny't nobody want
no Bengos help back in the day, Oh Joe, man
pick pick, just say, man, take this. I don't even already.
I don't want to take I don't want to take
it back home.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Hey, I thought I thought. I thought the Bengals just
to have some decent hells.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Huh, Man, ain't nobody want the Bengals was terrible.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, Now him and Jeff Blair ain't nobody to throw
a ball that Jeff Blake.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
He had a pretty ball, boy, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Okay, just like.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Aaron Rodgers, throw the hell mary that yeh Blake. That's
why Jeff would throw throw the deep ball. That fact
just like it just come down and picture picture just
run right up.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
On him and him and darnay boy. Yeah it was
nice boy.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, oh Joe, I got the old big do. Y'all
still got these helpers like this, Oh Joe, they still.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Like this, right, it's still the same. It's still the same.
You know, we got the white ones. Now you know
they got the white ones.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, that's y'all
color rush. You're right, Yeah, that's the color rush.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yr Yeah, okay, oh Joe, we have more info coming
out on Christian Wilkins. Adam Schefter shares was an awkward
kiss incident between Kristin Wilkins and a Raiders teammate. Wilkins
kissed a fellow player on the head and the teammate
took offense to it. The incident happened inside the team
meeting room. Report says the interaction was playful, but the
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teammate didn't see it that way. Schefter ads the incident
was not the sole reason Wilkins was cut.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Is the real.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Oh Joe, wait, hold on, this is a This is
Schefter talking legedly. This this was an incident that took place.
When did men start playing like this?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
O Joe? Forget? Forget.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I understand it's twenty twenty five. It's a different time,
and I don't get. I don't care what your letter
is into alphabet be you. I'm cool with it. You
be the L, you be the B, you be the T,
you be the Q, look plural, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Have at it.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
When did mean in a football back in a setting
like this? When did they start playing like this?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Ojo?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Whether it after I left the game, whether it like
last week, a couple of weeks ago, you stayed a
little bit. I retired and oh four, you retired in
twenty twelve from the NFL, So you stayed a little
longer than I did. So when did this start happening
to oo?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
I think I think that's plays like that. The people
I hang around based on where I'm from, I don't.
I don't see that type activity. I don't see that
type of Listen, we have treated me.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
We have played for Banma, but the play, yeah, we
and we we conducted it ain't like that. It ain't
in that manner. So it is news to me. It's
new to me. I don't know Christian Wilkson. You know,
Perceon Wilkins. I don't know him personally.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
You know, I know of him, you know, as a
fun energetic type of player.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
He's some funny things. Know.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, they got that picture when I think there's the
National Championship game of one game and the guys.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
On the ground, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, I'm like, bro, guys don't play Look maybe maybe
they do nothing. I shouldn't say. I'm just from an
era guys didn't play like that and yeah, look, yeah
we horse played. We might nail somebody locker short shut.
We might put powder or water in your shoulder pants
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and when you grab him it come down on top
of you. Do guys horse play around like that?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yes? Do we soak the.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Rookies clothes, put them in the cold tub and then
put them in the freezer. Yes, we've seen guys, you know,
basketball players put popcorn in the guy's car. We've seen
stuff like that. Oh, Joe, not like and I've seen
some stuff in the locker room. Now, I've seen some
guys play that. Even I was like, y'all nasty that
grow a.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
But not not today, magnatudo.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Not not no, not no, not no, not no, not
no kissing on not even kissing on the forehead, not
even though, no joke, it matter.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to say. I'm not
in the locker room. I wasn't actually there.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
And obviously Chefon did his best job and describing what happened,
and obviously think.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
About oo, remember we talked about it. Of all the
things they could have said, why did they say this?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Now? They could have said anything, he.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Stole somebody car, he stole fifteen hundred dollars from somebody
he forged the check. Of all the things they could
have tagged the young man with, allegedly they put this.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Yeah, I mean listen, Allegendly that's actually what happened. You know,
it had to come from somewhere, so that means that's
exactly what happened. Where they'll smoke this fire, right where
they'll smoke this fire. So it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Whoever the player was, they took offense to it, and
maybe they got in a little scuffle.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Maybe it caused an issue, and maybe that was just
the icing on the cake for them to release him
based on the other issues and other answers about him
missing games last year and then not doing what's required
to make sure he gets on the field in the
time man of this year.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
If I'm not mistaken, Ojo, they said this incident happened earlier,
So I don't know if it happened, say in the
off season, it happened at some point in time during
the season. Obviously there was there was a diff of fracturing,
a fracturing where they like, bro, you need the surgery.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
He says no.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
It seemed like he said no, maybe they wanted a
second opinion. He didn't want to get a second opinion,
because here's the thing you could have. You cauld like, okay,
you got to tour in a cl and not to say,
well you need to get to say like nomal let
the hell on his own.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You can do that. I wouldn't advise it, but you
can do it.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
They tell you to go get a second opinion, O Joe,
you can do that, and both darkness say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
You say, No, I'm good. I wouldn't advise it, but
you can do that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I don't get why he wouldn't, considering he had guaranteed money.
He had thirty five million dollars coming to him that
was guaranteed, so he was at I could see, ojo,
if I didn't have guaranteed money coming in, if there
was a situation like Noah bro I need to get
on the field. But he got guaranteed money. And so
they said, nah, it's not healing like it's supposed to.
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You need to have another surgery.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Right. I just don't.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I don't get that. That's what's being reported now. We
don't know what's true or not. But look, the truth
is somewhere in between this box. Yeah, between the kiss
on the forehead, the second opinion they wanted to have,
They wanted to have surgery again. Something. The truth is
somewhere in here, o Joe. We just don't know where
it's at, but we think the truth is somewhere in
this box.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Well, listen, what you can do is you can hear
the situations, right, and it's like having a puzzle piece.
All right, we got we got good pieces to the puzzle,
and you can just fill out the rest of the
puzzle based on the actions that have had and what
you're hearing.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So you missed games last year.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Okay, well but you only play five games though, Joe,
I think you got hurt after the field game.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Okay, listen, all right, we're going into a new season.
You're still not healthy. Right when it got a second opinion,
maybe your second opinion said, you know what, you need
to just relax and let it heal. On the song,
maybe the team said, well, you need to get surgery.
So again, now we're going to another season. You missed
so many games last year. Now the season rolling around again,
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you're still not healthy.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
You're not on the field.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
They see you on on camera dancing around, you know,
having fun and doing doing stuff. That's that's not for one,
helping the team too, that's not helping yourself. And three,
what we're paying you means as dollars to do you're
not earning that. You're not earning that. You're not going
to do that on our time or our clock, right,
And so they made a business decision.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I'm looking at it like, like I said, if he's
in the last year of his contract, he doesn't have
this guaranteed money.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
And he thinks, like, hey, I get it. I totally
get it.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But he got thirty, he got he got what he
had already got like forty nine mini, he got another
seven coming this year, and then guess what, O joe,
he got another twenty five coming, another twenty five, twenty
seven coming the following year.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
So he's protected. That's why.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
That's why guys want these guaranteed contracts, O Joe, so
I can be protected not just for one year, but
for multiple years.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
So I get it.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
But if the report is what Chef is saying is true, right,
I just don't know when this started taking place. Guys,
like I said, Hey, look like I said, o Joe,
we ain't look, I don't put I don't put more
two item, gone through so many two of the two
paste putting toothpaste on the guys during training camp, because
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I know all you gonna do is just walk out
the door and pull it shut. He ain't gonna look
back at it. He just gonna grab it and got him.
I done poured so much alcohol and lit it on
fire up under the door.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, we play pranks like that, but we know.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Look, you ain't don't touch a man's you know, boy,
I saw somebody almost got the brakes beat off him.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
He took his hair, he took his brush, took his
dew brush and caught his pubant, bushed his pubert air.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
With it with his brush and put it back.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Okay, see see, people don't play now, man. It ain't nothing.
It ain't nothing but a brush. It ain't it ain't
that serious. People don't play the way you play. Everybody
don't play like that. And you and you need to
understand that, right because you dealing with Look, I said,
(46:38):
I just don't I don't get it. I just like
I said, I grew up at a time where men
men didn't play men rarely didn't play at all. I
remember my grandfather and I'm telling no jokes, like I said,
and uh we told the story of my brother. I
just sat down with him about somebody made a joke
about my grandfather's teeth. And as my grandfather was driving off,
he had his teeth, he had his false teeth. They
were sitting on the dash and got a uh uh,
(47:02):
mister Bardy, don't let the don't let your tea for
a runaway.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
My grandfather put that car in reverse, stop that car
and got out said, don't play. Say I'm enough to
be your dad. They don't play with me. He said,
I'm a grown ass man. He say, find somebody to
play with, and I'm not him man. Probably about five
sea here before he spots my grad Because if you know,
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back all people used to go get the gas. That
should get that full service. O Joe, you know what
I'm saying. They ain't get a hey, pump the whole gas. Hey,
cause you did the windows. And you know what I'm saying,
Oh Joe, you did the window, got the windows all nights.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
And you know that they do that in Jersey. Huh oh,
they do that.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
They do that in Jersey, okay man.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
And so I'm I'm I'm I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I'm really surprised that, uh and in today's society that
allegedly what Christian Wilkins did.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
I mean because he's like I said, there are.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Some things that like and and and photos that surface
and I don't know, it might be a it's hard
to say.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Hell, I don't got the way.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I don't really believe nothing no on the internet anymore
because I don't even know if it if it's real,
O cho, if it's AI, because A I have have it.
You know, got an alligator riding the horse. So I
don't even know what to believe anymore, O Joe. But
I'm just saying, God, stop playing so much. All these
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people in pranks and all this stuff. And you see
people walking up and they tried to prank somebody and
they do it all this stuff shot that yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, come on, come on that. You're gonna get
yourself hurt. And the first thing somebody family gonna say,
they didn't have to do him like that, or they
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didn't have to do her do her like that.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
No, you didn't have.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
To play like that. People, everybody don't play the same.
Somebody gonna let y'all have it, So just stop, just stop,
Like you said, O yo, that's a total stranger. You
don't know that from Adam and I know some I
know I got great friends. But we know how to
play and we know what to say when we play.
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You know certain things. There's certain things that's off limits,
and you understand that you did it.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
With you always know what line not the cross.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
You know your friends, You always know what what what
can get that what buttons the push?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
You know it button's not the push.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
You know what line, not the cross, and there's there's
great understanding with that when it's it's someone that you've
been friends with for a very long time. Now, when
somebody knew like you're on a new team, a teammate
that you don't know that well outside of that building,
there's certain things you can't do.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
You can't conduct yourself.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
You know the way you conduct yourself with somebody knowing
twenty twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
That's why you go in a new environment.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
You sit back and you observed, Yeah, okay, I can
joke with him, m I can't joke with him, or
I can say something like this to him. Yeah, I
can't say that to him.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
You got to read the room.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
That's why you observe.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Give yourself a month or two, three months, excuse me
to observe and see who you can and can't. Yeah,
who you can talk to, who you can make joke with,
who you can do certain things too. You just need
to be observing because being in a locker room, because
you got a lot of different backgrounds, don't Joe Paper
come from a lot of different areas. I mean the
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socio economic background, the different religions, the different ideology, how
somebody was raised.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Hey, you don't know what the trigger is.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
You just don't want to be the one to pull
it right. So I'm sorry the young man, but hopefully
they get this resolved. Because he's extremely talented. He can play,
oh yeah, going to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
He can play.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, he can rush the past, He's tremendous against the run.
It seems to me that he really enjoys the game.
Sometimes I think he enjoyed it too much. But this
I just, like I said, we don't know what Schefter's
reporting that this incident did happen, but he's said that's
not the sole reason of why they chose to go
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in this direction.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Like I said, that's what Shefter's being reported. We're reporting, basically,
we're commenting on what Schefter's reporting. What we do know
is that he's been released and they're basically saying, we
ain't paying you. He filed agreements with the NFLPA trying
to get the guaranteed money that he believes he's old.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
We'll see
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Luther Burton the Third was kicked off the field and
chewed out by Ben Johnson after issue that the line
of scrimmage doing teen drills. Burden missed several weeks of
practice with a hamstring injury, and Johnson said it is
hindered his progress learning the system. It shows up already.
I mean we were in walk through yesterday afternoon. The misalignment.
We have to re huddle, we have to start it
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all over again. He's a little bit behind right now.
Burden the Third responded very well to the accountability that
Johnson gave him early in your career. Did you ever
have to accept accountability coming up shorten practice or in
the game.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, hell yeah, Man, I forget mabe. You don't move me.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm I'm a wire receivo Joe. They will move me
to tight end. They tell me to play on Joe,
I go in motion. I stopped, Man, what's the play again?
What I got, hey, y'all laughing there you ask me,
I'll be going, Hey, I go in motion, go to
the tackle, turn the right to come back.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Man, what I got? I forgot? What I got? Bad?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Dad?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
God, dang it, Shannon, I don't know what you want to
tell you, Dad. I forgot to play.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I remember them days, man.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
They sent me in the game. I forgot to play
coming into the game.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hey cause we used to run play like every play
we bring somebody in the game. Dad got his hand
on my shoulder, give me the play. I go in there,
he Yoe, you run how many game on?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Joe?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Y'all, y'all look at me, t look at me like tee,
what's the play?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I forgot? Hey? Hey, it'll happen quick too. Oh, booket
it Joe out bookt at the game too. I'm like, man,
I'm in the game. How many we gave believes d
D what's the play?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I forgot?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Hey? Hey, hold on and basketball ojo and doing like
a time out they might coach might draw up three players. Okay,
we're gonna run this play then come back down next trip.
We're gonna run this play, then next trip down court,
we're gonna so he got three plays and then drawn up.
You may go out there on defense and you mess
around and you know, get a couple of trips to
where y'all make got steals or you know things. Yes, man,
(02:38):
you forget everything. And man, that drew up over there.
That's how I know you be so locked in. Yeah,
it was the second play.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You go to ask your teammate. They don't even know that. See,
that's what that's how we do. No huddle, Ojo. We
called two plays in the huddle, first one on one second.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What we got?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Ye? No, Man, I never forget that, man, I man,
I was. I was so embarrassed. Man, Hey, I didn't
even look at the sideline because I know bad because
coach Coach reeld.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Get so bad.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Coach returned red and he had this big old, big
old vein. I mean it be bulging out of his neck.
Because back then coaches wore suits on the sideline. On Joe,
Coach Rees wore a suit. You know, coach, you go
back and look at Coach Dicky. He have on sweater
vests and things like that. So coach coach Rees was
dressed to the nine.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Coach Ree was so bad over there, hey, you put
it getting that told of that play and I got
out and ran in there and forgot all about that play.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's the worst feeling.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh Joe, you and everybody looking at me like, damn,
how you forgetting to play? How you forgetting to play
from the sideline to the hottle? I guess Joan jarred
my memory. Look, that's like one of forgetting to play
and probably being late to like practice.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That's them like the worst feelings, man.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The practice, late the meetings and having.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah yeah yeah, and they already in there going through
the meeting. You gotta walk.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Oh man, that's that's the worst. That's the worst.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm a I'm late for the meeting. I play the game.
They're a offensive player of the game. She had a shark.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And you was late for the meeting. I said, man,
why is somebody he on behalf of mister Sharpe.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I like to except this award on his behalf like
they do at the Oscars, like they do at the
Grammars or something.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Mad man, Hey we got a snow, Hey we got
a storm.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Uh we have played Carolina that Sunday we beat the
braces off Carolina, and uh I cooked them o Joe
cooked them, say them for a buck seventy four. Man,
that's no just another would not cooperate.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It couldn't get couldn't get to practice.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Huh. Now it was team mean because we give out
we give out of the offense, defensive place, team player
of the game that Wednesday, and and the Mike's morning meeting.
So defensive player of the game, this many tackles a pick. Uh,
you know, sack blah blah blah, you know, offensive player
the game. You know, John to be TD. Most time
it was TD. Could be quite honest.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Uh but.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, but that's that's a bad feeling because they a
as a matter of fact, I walk it in, they
get ready to break the team meeting.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's the worst feeling, bro.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
That is because the thing, it's one thing to be late.
It's to me the means miss it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Huh you was that late?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Mate, man, that meeting don't take that long because like say,
a great game, you know, blah blah blah, you know, congratulations.
That's the way, you know, play start to finish. Play fans.
I love everybody where is engaged. Offensive player of the game,
Defensive player of the game, specially teams player the game.
So the meeting ain't gonna go but like six and
seven minutes, right, Being the leader is one thing, mister.
(06:19):
The meeting is something intollege.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Mister.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
The meeting might cost you know, five hundred dollars, I
mean lay for the meeting might cost five hundred. You know,
Missing the meeting gonna cost two thousand. Yeah, so yeah, yeah,
I understand. And it's like I said, I need to
be there. See it's hard to like pick up stuff
where like you injured and they go on those plays,
(06:42):
O sho, I need to walk through. I need I
need to be I need to be there. And you
know you you hurt you on the sideline. It ain't
the same. It ain't the same, an a. And in
this situation, they are installing new every day. So if
you got if you're not up to date on this today,
guess what that's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
We ain't talking about this no more.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
We we on page two and guess what, we don't
pay three, and we don't pay four. And then they
come back and they go then they start implementing stuff
from page one, two, three, four, five.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh lord, bersa, y'all, Joe bad, I know what you
mean I'm sry. I do.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Man, you miss one of the me or you mess
around and be late, boy, you're gonna feel lost.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, man, I had to I had to get I
had to get caught up. I had to guy, I said, Man, Man,
I just went home with off Caesar and I just still.
I said, I got to know this stuff from them backwards.
I say, ain't no way acting bad. They're gonna miss
run and cut me if I don't know this stuff.
All right, Guys, Brown's on the Jimmy Haslom felt the
need of unprompted to tell the media yesterday that your
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door Sanders was not his pick. Let's take a listen
to what the owner had to say about selecting your door.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Good process.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay, and if you just told me so you picked
him on Saturday, right Friday night, driving home the old
pic your door, I would say that that's not happening.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But we had a conversation earlier that morning.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Uh, in your conversation later that day, area the right
people involved in.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
The conversation, or if at the end of the day,
that's Andrew Barry's call, if you made the call to
pict your door, just like, who's gonna start or.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
What play we're gonna call is Kevin's call, but that's
that's Andrew's call and made me talk. Yeah, who asked
him that?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Why did he Why did he feel the need to
share that information on Joe?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Nobody? That's what unprompted. So you drift, Mitch, ain't.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Nobody asked you what round did you think you were
gonna take your new in?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Why did you take? Nobody asked you that?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, and so he felt the need and I get it,
Yes he's the owner, but it's like, I'm like, bro,
if y'all felt, if you feel this wall by your door,
why y'all still got the mand be cause they seemed
like every time I turn around, oh Joe, somebody trying
to take a dig at it.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, well I got I got a question. I have
a question for the chat and uncle Joe. I'm not
sure if y'all know how long did Jimmy has them
been with the Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Browns A long ass time, A long time.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
So since two thousand, the Cleveland Browns has had thirty
five different starting quarterbacks. In two thousand, thirty five different
starting quarterbacks. But now you're going to take it for yourself,
to say that Shador saying is one your pick, and
that's probably why it's gonna work, because you had no
dealings and him being drafted.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm watch ow God work, Watch how God work?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
What about all the mother picks you had who pickedould
they he is?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But he hey, listen, he never he never came out
before and said.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Nobody else never never did before.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Hey, hey, when I look at it, When I look
at it, unco, I just like how a young man
going about itself man should do you know.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
What I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Like, there's no there's no better way to go about
this than keep your head down and keep working.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Bro. He's uh.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I think he's been doing a phenomenal job at that obviously.
I think everybody's been keeping up with what's been going
on in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I know I have, UH.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And he looked like he looked like he looks comfortable
out there first and foremost, and he looks like he's
still enjoying the game, man.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And I think this is.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Just more you know, fuel to the fire as opposed
to it's gonna help him out throughout the regular season,
throughout his season, or throughout his NFL career in general.
So I understand what what what the owner said, but uh,
I think she do it doing an awesome job with
all this that's going around, and you can see he's
in the community. Not only is he in the community,
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but he looked like he's playing his butt off. Now
I don't know how much. I don't know how much
any of this way with you know, what he's been
doing in you know, in the OTAs and off season
and camp and all that. But I mean, I test,
don't lie, bro. I know you know, they ain't out
there hitting or nothing like that. But he looks comfortable out.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Then well, it's really hard for me to say because
from everything that I read, he gets one or two
reps with the first team and one or two reps
period and that's it. It's reported that his dad wanted
to come to camp just like he went to a Tampa.
He said, nah, daddy said Dad. He said, I might
get three or four reps. He says, I'm not where
I want to be. But what if reported is being
(11:34):
reported is true. But once I get to where I
want to be, come on up then, right. But I
don't get this. It was that was that was an
Andrew Barry's pick and just like the guys that play
that's such and such. So all these quarterbacks that y'all had,
and I mean you have Baker, So who's pick with
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Baker and Baker? Look, Baker had had had a decent
and he got injured and for whatever reason, you know,
Baker's telling the story. They wanted him to, you know,
turn tone it down a little bit and would let
him be himself. And you see, Baker is like himself
in Tampa and he's thriving. Now does he have a
better collection of wide receivers around him and Tampa that
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he had in Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yes, he does, he does.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Ain't no sense in us trying to fool fooler said
he has the same level of skill position players around him,
Because he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
He just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But I don't get why Jimmy Haslam felt the need
to take this shot that should do it? Oh uh,
you know, if you'd have told me we were gonna
take him, I was like, that's not gonna happen or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
He said. Why? I mean, I mean, why, why why
do you need to say that? O Joe?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
You know what they're trying to do. You know what
they're trying to do. Break trying to break him. They
use the draft trying to break him. We're gonna make
him wave. Okay, now he's here, he's doing everything he's
supposed to do, doing everything he's supposed to do plus
the extra.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Then okay, how can we break him?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Now?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
He's out here playing very well. I told you, I
told you, hey, listen, May's over that man, May and.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
As is over there.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I don't need to be there to see and here
they with me? Now, So what do we do now?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
He's playing well, he's got the offense down, he's not
making too many mistakes, he's throwing touchdowns where he's running.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
With the one to two three of the falls. So
what do we do now? The one has to come
out and try to break him, break his spirit a
little bit, I.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Want, but listen, but why though?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Is it because of what they may seem to be
as flamboyant in college? Because he would a jewelry, he
would the ice? Yes, is part of who he is, man,
It's just part of his swag. That's how he grew up.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Hey, really, Joe, Honestly, that's all the collegiate athletes coming
out of college this year.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Everybody got THETD.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
They got a little bread, and so it seemed like
to me a weaker tell the guys already. I know
people say, hey, you can you maintain confidence, but when
you're not getting any run, and you used to like
I'm a prime example of that. I used to call
my brother. I said, man, I ain't get no run today.
(14:14):
All he said, just be ready, he said, John Ellwire
gonna call your number, but make sure when he called
your number. I like, man, you keep saying that. You
said that yesterday, he ain't call my number. I said,
you keep I'm saying to myself, you keep saying that,
but it ain't happening. And sure enough. But I was like,
I ain't got nothing but time. The way I looked
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at it, Joe and O Joe is that as long
as I'm here, I still got a chance. It's like
when I'm no longer there, I don't have a chance
to make the team. So as long as I can stay,
the longer I stay, because guess what, I'm gonna do something.
Y'all gonna put me somewhere and I'm gonna flash something.
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I'm gonna make a catch. I'm gonna you're gonna put
me on special teams. I'm gonna do something that you say,
you know what, that came from Savannah State. He too big,
too strong, too fast, not for us to.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Find a play. Hey, create a create a job for me.
Hey we we hire right.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
And the funny the funny thing about it is all
the turmoil, all the all the negativity, but it's coming
from the Cleveland media, whether it's coming from the owner
gym has him and saying he wasn't my pick. When
that preseason starts and he gets his opportunity, the cream
is gonna rass at the top no matter what, because
you're good at doing one thing. He's good at playing football. Yes,
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he's good at playing football.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
He's been a.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Winner from Jackson State, the goddamn Colorado. And now you're
in a different environment and that journey starts all over again,
even with.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
The enemy that's right in your backyard against you.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Mm hmm. Sometimes that's that's really hard to overcome. O yo.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
When when it seems like the people rooting again, that's
right there. I mean, I thought, I thought, I thought
we was all in this thing together. It don't seem
like it.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I sell you what I tell you who on the side, though,
I tell you who on the side when that goddamn
when that goddamn stadium started rooting, started screaming for Shador,
when that god damned dog Pound start going crazy and
the Chance starts start shouting for Shador when.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Things ain't going right with the Browns.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
All right, I guarantee you know what, watch watch how
to play out.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I just hope, I just hope he's still he's around
long enough for those said things to happen.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That that that that's because think about it, Oh Joe,
you signed Joe Flacco eighteen years Well, you know he's
not He's year eighteen. He's not your answer long term.
You re signed Kenny Pickett hoping that he got a
little hamstring tweak. So now basically it's Dylan Gabriel uh
uh and your door. But it seemed like Flacco and
(16:55):
get Gabriel and and Flacco getting all the reps. That's
what the appears to me from what I read.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm not I'm not you know, following it that close
because that you know, put all that time in there,
and guys that you're watching, they're not gonna be there.
So as they get to the preseason on show we
get the game or two, and so we'll get a
better understanding, a better feel like okay, this kid, you know,
get an opportunity to see them guys play, like, okay,
he can play, because I want to see guys play
against somebody playing somebody else just trying to make a team.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Also, you don't know, y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Don't walk off the field talking hey man, hey, you
know what you're gonna do tonight, or well you know
what you what you know such and such. Hey, I
want to see you go against another guy in another
colored uniform that's in the same situation that you are.
He's trying to make he's trying to live out his fantasy.
He's trying to live out his dream. He's trying to
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make sure his mom and his grandma, and if he
has a kid or a girlfriend or significant other, he's
trying to make sure they're taken.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Care of, just like you.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But this, I'm shocked by what Jimmy Haslam had to
say because nobody asked you. Nope, this was something that
you probably should have asked. Oh Joe, after the draft,
you asked, you asked this, Okay, So what was your
thought process taking your door in the fifth round. Oh
you know, they said the grade they had on him,
the grade they had and the grade they had. So
that's when you're like, well, hey, we felt that, you know,
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we had this grade. Now rounds between rounds four and five,
if he's there, we're gonna grab it. Okay. But that's
a couple. That's a day after the draft. That's two
days at worked at best work case. That's a week
after the draft.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
O joe. The drift was in April.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
After the drift was in April, and here we are.
That's Le's May junely. That's three that's three months if
we're talking about that's an Andrew Barry pick.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
And listen, I can understand if if your decision making
in the past, as if you the guy damn quarterback
whisper yes, coming out and saying something like that and
being confident about it, like you yeah, golden when it
came to picking quarterbacks, your last thirty five with your
picks and none of them. So probably this one that
you had nothing to do with, that might be the answer.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
If you Green Bay, y'all got bred Fog and then
you get Aaron Rodgers and now you got George Love,
I would say, well, you know what, hey, o Joe, Joe,
he might be on this something now right right, half,
they about to have fifty years of prosperity at the
quarterback position. But when you've had thirty five years of
turmoil and chaos at the quarterback position, with the exception
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of maybe a year or two here or there, you
got one year Derek Anderson, you got a couple of
years with Baker. But other than that, let's be realistic. Now,
come on, Browns really and.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And she do what strikes me as a guy, you know,
when them lights come on, Uncle Ojo, I feel like
he's gonna perform at the highest level, you know what
I mean, Like he gonna put on you know what
I mean? That's that's the type of guy. He strikes
me in. So, man, I'm gonna be paying attentions to
brown See what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Now?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They got four quarterbacks over there, right? What they what
they gonna do? Okay with y'all, I don't see a
team keeping four quarterbacks. And I you know, part a
part of me, a part of me hope they like
try to put him on the practice squad and somebody
comes signing.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Mm hmm. So they so you can carry you know,
they'll carry three quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's too many positions because the quarterbacks don't play special teams.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So you got it though, because.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
There's only there's only forty six guys, those spots are valuable. Normally,
you carrying a guy, a wide receiver that could you know,
he can play multiple positions. He can play the eggs,
he can play the Z, he can play the slot,
and he plays special team. Same thing with a linebacker,
same thing with the swing offensive lineman. He can play guard,
he can play tackle. Okay, so that's what you're looking at.
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I'm looking at a guy that can play multiple positions
because if I get somebody to go down, what can
a quarterback do? Side quarterback? Maybe you'll you'll hope maybe
maybe in high school, Oh Joe, he punted or kicked
to something. But for the most part, you keep If
you're gonna keep somebody extra, it's gonna be a wide
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receiver of dB, somebody that can play special teams. That's
why they say, hey, special teams is the quickest way
to earn a place on the roster unless you wanted
the top Now you top dog I mean, we get that,
you Joe Burrow or Chase or somebody like that, Lamards,
we get that. But guys that are not that are
not extra like say Starter that when Hey runs up,
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he runs on the field, and when it's farm down
he comes off the field and he ain't got to
stay out there for punting special team. The more you
can do, the longer you can play. The more you
can do, the longer you play. And but I I don't.
I didn't like this at all because, like I said,
here we are three months in Ojo and this man
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talked about that's a Andrew Berry pick.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's trying to break him up. It's all my games.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
They are they are, they are. They did what they did.
They like, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna show you.
We're gonna we're gonna show Coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
They talk about you know, the Mannings, and everybody looked
at the man, even Eli did what he did, and
you know Arch and you know, so forth and so on.
They're like, Nah, you're not gonna do that. We're gonna
show you do. We're gonna start it right here, and
then we're gonna take a little further. We only gonna
give your handful of reps and we will make how hey,
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if I'm trying to break it, they say they put
you in solitary. Solitary, oh shoe, because they say, you know,
we used to communicate it, and when there's no one
to communicate to you, and all you can do is
hear your heart beat and all the only the only
communication is going on in your own head.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And you know what, that could be a good thing.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Sometimes you put people in solitary confinement, right, and and
it doesn't more It doesn't more good than harm because
it gives you too much time.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
To think, Yeah, I want to be a solitary away
from you, sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, I wanted to be a solitary over your cause
I want to be away from you. Sorry moos. So
y'all might rub off on me, they love. I think
he definitely locked in, though you can see it, bro well,
he he doesn't really, he really doesn't have a choice.
I think I think time has done a great job
time dealing with what he's dealing with, because think about it, now,
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that's still time. So but in the meantime, I've got
to deal with what I've got to deal with. I've
got something gravely going on with me and I got
two sons that because the only coach that should do has.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Ever had has been Time.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
He's the only only to play for his dad, played
for his daddy, Jay played for his dadd in high
school and coming up he coached them in Pop Warner.
Time used to take them kids all over the place.
They play Snoop Dogg. They played, end up playing Snoop Dogg.
When because the Time and I went to the hall together. Uh,
they playing all up in Texas. They coming, they coming,
and they driving playing other teams. I think they they
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played while they was up there in there in Canton.
So that's the only coach you've ever had. And now
my dad's think about it. Man, my dad dealing with something.
I don't know, you know what's really going on, because
Tom said, you know, I really didn't let the boys
know what was really going on because they got to
focus on that. The last thing is to let your
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mind wand ojo. You know when you in camp, Hey,
I'm here. That's what I tell when you hear you
gotta be here now now when you over there, deal
with whatever you gotta deal with over there. And don't
worry about here. But when you hear, you gotta be here.
And so I think Time did a great job of
shielding him, not telling them the extent of what's really
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going on with him, so he can stay locked in.
Especially we know how hard the quarterback position is to
play Ojo. The last thing you need is to be
worried about man pop's Man, say, pop, Pops really messed
up right now, Man, I ain't getting no burn. Pop
I was messed up on a trip and saying all
kind of crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, man, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's like I said, you don't know what a person's
going through. You don't know. Uh, you know, you try
not to. You try to compartmentalize. When I'm here, Joe,
I'm here, and like when i'm when I'm done, I'll
deal with whatever I need to deal with off the field.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I'll deal with that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Then. Man, you just say, man, I can, I can.
I can brain work home, but I can't take you
to work. And that's how it is. You can't because
they tell you, oh yeah, there's there's more important things
than sports. They line they say that for for the public,
for public, for public. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, No,
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when you play a professional sports, oh Joe, they're making
a buddy le clear.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The most important thing is that sport. So do it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Keep your head up, keep plugging away, boy, do your thing.
Mike Tomlins says he had a with Aaron Rodgers. Thomas said,
it was kind of a romance for me. I was
just excited to get to know the guy on a
personal level.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
We have some cool, interesting conversations about football, about life,
about where he is in his career, and what he's
was potentially looking for. Oh jo, how long do you
think the Roman's last? The Steelers don't start if they
don't start winning.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Listen, remember remember listener, winning wins or losses, depending regards
to how it goes.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Remember how Aaron Rodgers treated Robert Salo.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah remember the interaction on the sideline, the pushing and
shoving off.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
The type of reasons for the head coach. Now, what
won't happen whether they're winning or losing. Now, Mike Tomlin,
ain't playing that. Oh no, oh that ain't that ain't
gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. So, whether they're winning
or losing, I think the relationship between those two because
there's a certain amount of respect that he has from
Mike tom and what he's been able to accomplish in Pittsburgh.
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I think everything would be just fine. Everything would be
just fine. All you have to do is listen.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
If Russell Wilson can do what he did last year,
and Justin Fields can do what he did last year,
Aaron Rodgers being at the him, she'd be able to
do just that, do what they ask, don't turn the
ball over and let the defense win the game for you.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah. Plus he doesn't come in.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
With what he went into the jets were they got
on private jets, they cought a They're like, look this
is what we got.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Take a leave it. Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You know Mike Tomlin runs the show. Yeah, the moment
you you go get around the cab, the moment you
go get Alan Lazard, you've seated all controlled to Aaron Rodgers.
Because now you're giving up control. You you're like, okay,
well I want this, I want that, I want this,
I want that. The moment the kids starts screaming and
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you give him what he wants. So Joe, you to
see the control.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Right right, But that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
That's not gonna happen in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
No, No, absolutely, But you have to understand the Jets
start with that control and we we you allowed we
allowing you to take the keys to the team and
put the pieces around you. They felt that's what you
needed to succeed. It just didn't happen the way that
they saw.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, you gotta what I think it would have had
he bought all the way in when Tampa turned it
over to Tom, what did Tom do? He bought all
the way in when Demver turned it, turned it over
to Peyton, he bought all the way in.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's not what Aaron Dead was halfway in, halfway in.
He locked in now though, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Hey, y'all allowed me to write to be wrong on this,
but uh, I think for the Jets he had to be.
He had to be pretty spectacular for them to win, right,
I think with the stealers because their defense is pretty
good and I don't think it'd be a whole lot
of pressure on him. Plus he got a lot of
he got some help offensively to where he'll be a
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lot better I think for the Stealers than he was
for the Gints.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I think the offensive line is better. But the problem
that they ran in And this is what I said,
And I remember having this conversation. I said, oh, Joe,
you're saying he just needs to be Aaron Rodgers. I said, now,
what happens if that defense isn't what it was for
those other quarterbacks Zach Wilson. So let's just say for
the sake of argument, that defense slips a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, and you see.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
As guys starting to get older, Joe and I don't
know how it is in basketball, you could speak to this,
but as guys get older at the quarterback position, they
need more help. Whereas guys Aaron Rodgers five years ago,
six years ago, no problem.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Are you gonna put the sisters of noise that that
with him? He would have succeeded.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
He could do it. But as you saying, older, you
need more help. Alah Tom goes to Tampa, Alah Peyton
goes to Denver. Look at the receiving help that he had,
Look at the running backs, look at the offensive line,
all those things going to play. I do believe he
has a better offensive line than what he has. Okay,
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he got DK, they lost pickings, they got Calvan Austin
the third. So they got some players. So we'll see.
We'll see Warren the running back. We'll see how that,
how that turns out. But I don't think he needs
to be forty touchdown, Aaron, I don't.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I don't think they have a forty touchdown offense.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Could be you could be right. I could be right,
you could be right.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I see that, respectfully, The Bengals have a forty touchdown
offense for sure.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Absolutely, yes, yes, yes, you know why because they defense
aren't very good. Because they're gonna be played. They're gonna
be in some shootouts. It's just real talk. They're gonna
be a shootout.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
They don't talk.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Come on, that's how you get the team, man.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
But they're gonna be. Oh, y'all defense they're not very good.
You see, y'all lost games forty one, thirty eight. Y'all
lost thirty eight, thirty five. Y'all lost thirty four thirty one. Right,
you're right, y'all, Yeah, y'all gonna be a game like that.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Listen, listen, this is new year. Though this is a
new year, we don't we don't know what's gonna happen.
Matter of fact, we got football tomorrow too. I forgot
about that.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, oh, this is the last This is the last weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You won't have football until middle of February. So moving forward,
you got preseason, and then you know, you got college,
and then you got NFL college, NFL college NFL and
then when the college go and then you have bold season,
you have playoffs.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So yeah, hey, is here? Now? Is here? Now?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Devonte Adams clears the era with Jimmy g during Dark Time.
It's raiderst teammate. It's amazing. I love Jimmy. He said
it was never a personal thing. I was hoping we
didn't have to have these conversations, but I'm surprised this
is the first time it's been brought up. But it's
been amazing. We got to catch up on and get
get on the right page. Obviously, that was just the
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dark moment in all of our lives. I think all
of us were pretty miserable over there. We kind of
caught up and laughed about it, and we've been making
plays since we got out here.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's so it's been fun.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
And either one of you guys ever had an awkward
fallout with a team former teammate and had to squash
the beef once you guys became teammates again.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Joe, You nah, I ain't never.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I ain't never had no no beef with none of
my teammates or none of that.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Nah, you didn't that, Joe Man.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
No, I was a fun guy, Joe.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I mean the same way I am on the store
and just saying what was on in the locker room,
same way I was on the field, like there was
there was there was a that was just fun man.
That was a fun dude, Joe. I ain't had no
problem with nobody. I think I got I got in
the one skull for one time, but with safety uh
training camp MADEU Williams.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Uh yeah, and that was that was that was it?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I mean I left left Denver, went to Baltimore, left Baltimore,
went back to Denver.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Now, I never had an awkward fallout. We had to
squash b.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I mean, well, well, Joe, I had that one, that
one fight, Joe, like when we played we played the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I think I told you, Joe, I don't think I
told you that story. We played the Ravens. We was
we was at uh bn T.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
What's the name of stadium?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
You know towards the end of the game, you know, Joe,
I went to catch a slant. Carson threw me a slant, right, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
A little high, and I jumped for it anyway, right, Joe,
stay with me now. And so I seen Ray at
the corner of my eye am a peripheral vision. I like,
I don't even come for to try to go get
it anyway, and I was like, oh, the boss will hap.
I started to come down and Ray hit me on
the side of the air hole and I'm like, well,
wait a minute, that was Ray.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
They just hit me.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
We just prayed before the game, so I know, I
know the Lord ain't tell you to hit me like that.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
So Joe, I jumped up right, and I I like
went after him.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I was finished square.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
With right, Hey, I was for to put his hands
on you, right, but then boom, I think Ed re
grabbed me. So when Ed grabbed me, I was like, nah,
You're gonna have to answer for that. That's what I
said in my mind. So after the game, right, Joe, Yeah,
I went to the Ravens locker room.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I went looking for Ray. So I walked.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I walked in the locker room and securited like, hey.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He ain't no way. It was, yeah, he can't, you.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Can't be here.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
So I waited, they was so I waited in the
parking lot. But then the team bus hit the horn
for me to go, and that kind of like saved
me from whoop and raised ass.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
But you just wanted, you just want to get something straight.
You wasn't really gonna put.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Like like Joe before every game. I oh, for God
for a decade straight. Joe for a decade straight. We
didn't miss one game, Me and Rate. He gave me
a scripture. We sat on the phone, we read the
scripture before we went to play the game, whether we
were playing each other or not consistently for a decade straight.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
How the hell?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
We just prayed before the game and you hit me
like that.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, he prayed, he' gonna knock your hands out and
Joe out.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Hey, Joe, listen, it would have took all twelve Disciples
to give me off a rate boy if I would
accord him after that game, Hey.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
You should have called him right down on the field, No.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Because I would have got fined. So I would listen.
You know, you know how it go when you're angry
you don't think logically.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
So if every had to help me, I would have
turned that fifty two upside down.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That bitch with a red twenty five.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You did the right thing, grab your helbert because he
docked your halbert smoothed off.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
You thought your head was in it was flying, Joe.
You went and picked your head it up like damn
that boy, he's something maw. Hey, hey, hey here Florida
boy too.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Huh yeah, yeah, boy, right right from Lakelan right up
the street, man, right right right up the street.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, y'all love No, but that that you know better.
He called me.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
He called me the same way he caught me under
my chair on the deep because yeah he got you too,
got me too, and I was trying to break it in.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Hit me right aboard of my chair. I say, take it,
ain't re touching anything. Come pass for shure. Yeah yeah,
hey that boy wasn't nothing nice right there. Boy, Oh
ya look at it. Ll look what I got. Uh
huh that's Piggings. That's little piggy. Yeah, old pig man.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I knew.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I knew it was pig soon as I saw that
damn face. Man, I said, they got to be pick helming.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Crawling.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Nice boy, Hey, man, ain't pick like heiny't nobody want
no Bengos help back in the day, Oh Joe, man
pick pick, just say, man, take this. I don't even already.
I don't want to take I don't want to take
it back home.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Hey, I thought I thought. I thought the Bengals just
to have some decent hells.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Huh, Man, ain't nobody want the Bengals was terrible.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, Now him and Jeff Blair ain't nobody to throw
a ball that Jeff Blake.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
He had a pretty ball, boy, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Okay, just like.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Aaron Rodgers, throw the hell mary that yeh Blake. That's
why Jeff would throw throw the deep ball. That fact
just like it just come down and picture picture just
run right up.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
On him and him and darnay boy. Yeah it was
nice boy.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, oh Joe, I got the old big do. Y'all
still got these helpers like this, Oh Joe, they still.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Like this, right, it's still the same. It's still the same.
You know, we got the white ones. Now you know
they got the white ones.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, that's y'all
color rush. You're right, Yeah, that's the color rush.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yr Yeah, okay, oh Joe, we have more info coming
out on Christian Wilkins. Adam Schefter shares was an awkward
kiss incident between Kristin Wilkins and a Raiders teammate. Wilkins
kissed a fellow player on the head and the teammate
took offense to it. The incident happened inside the team
meeting room. Report says the interaction was playful, but the
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teammate didn't see it that way. Schefter ads the incident
was not the sole reason Wilkins was cut.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Is the real.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Oh Joe, wait, hold on, this is a This is
Schefter talking legedly. This this was an incident that took place.
When did men start playing like this?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
O Joe? Forget? Forget.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I understand it's twenty twenty five. It's a different time,
and I don't get. I don't care what your letter
is into alphabet be you. I'm cool with it. You
be the L, you be the B, you be the T,
you be the Q, look plural, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Have at it.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
When did mean in a football back in a setting
like this? When did they start playing like this?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Ojo?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Whether it after I left the game, whether it like
last week, a couple of weeks ago, you stayed a
little bit. I retired and oh four, you retired in
twenty twelve from the NFL, So you stayed a little
longer than I did. So when did this start happening
to oo?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
I think I think that's plays like that. The people
I hang around based on where I'm from, I don't.
I don't see that type activity. I don't see that
type of Listen, we have treated me.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
We have played for Banma, but the play, yeah, we
and we we conducted it ain't like that. It ain't
in that manner. So it is news to me. It's
new to me. I don't know Christian Wilkson. You know,
Perceon Wilkins. I don't know him personally.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
You know, I know of him, you know, as a
fun energetic type of player.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
He's some funny things. Know.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, they got that picture when I think there's the
National Championship game of one game and the guys.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
On the ground, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, I'm like, bro, guys don't play Look maybe maybe
they do nothing. I shouldn't say. I'm just from an
era guys didn't play like that and yeah, look, yeah
we horse played. We might nail somebody locker short shut.
We might put powder or water in your shoulder pants
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and when you grab him it come down on top
of you. Do guys horse play around like that?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yes? Do we soak the.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Rookies clothes, put them in the cold tub and then
put them in the freezer. Yes, we've seen guys, you know,
basketball players put popcorn in the guy's car. We've seen
stuff like that. Oh, Joe, not like and I've seen
some stuff in the locker room. Now, I've seen some
guys play that. Even I was like, y'all nasty that
grow a.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
But not not today, magnatudo.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Not not no, not no, not no, not no, not
no kissing on not even kissing on the forehead, not
even though, no joke, it matter.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to say. I'm not
in the locker room. I wasn't actually there.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
And obviously Chefon did his best job and describing what happened,
and obviously think.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
About oo, remember we talked about it. Of all the
things they could have said, why did they say this?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Now? They could have said anything, he.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Stole somebody car, he stole fifteen hundred dollars from somebody
he forged the check. Of all the things they could
have tagged the young man with, allegedly they put this.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Yeah, I mean listen, Allegendly that's actually what happened. You know,
it had to come from somewhere, so that means that's
exactly what happened. Where they'll smoke this fire, right where
they'll smoke this fire. So it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Whoever the player was, they took offense to it, and
maybe they got in a little scuffle.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Maybe it caused an issue, and maybe that was just
the icing on the cake for them to release him
based on the other issues and other answers about him
missing games last year and then not doing what's required
to make sure he gets on the field in the
time man of this year.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
If I'm not mistaken, Ojo, they said this incident happened earlier,
So I don't know if it happened, say in the
off season, it happened at some point in time during
the season. Obviously there was there was a diff of fracturing,
a fracturing where they like, bro, you need the surgery.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
He says no.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
It seemed like he said no, maybe they wanted a
second opinion. He didn't want to get a second opinion,
because here's the thing you could have. You cauld like, okay,
you got to tour in a cl and not to say,
well you need to get to say like nomal let
the hell on his own.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You can do that. I wouldn't advise it, but you
can do it.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
They tell you to go get a second opinion, O Joe,
you can do that, and both darkness say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
You say, No, I'm good. I wouldn't advise it, but
you can do that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I don't get why he wouldn't, considering he had guaranteed money.
He had thirty five million dollars coming to him that
was guaranteed, so he was at I could see, ojo,
if I didn't have guaranteed money coming in, if there
was a situation like Noah bro I need to get
on the field. But he got guaranteed money. And so
they said, nah, it's not healing like it's supposed to.
(43:23):
You need to have another surgery.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Right. I just don't.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I don't get that. That's what's being reported now. We
don't know what's true or not. But look, the truth
is somewhere in between this box. Yeah, between the kiss
on the forehead, the second opinion they wanted to have,
They wanted to have surgery again. Something. The truth is
somewhere in here, o Joe. We just don't know where
it's at, but we think the truth is somewhere in
this box.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Well, listen, what you can do is you can hear
the situations, right, and it's like having a puzzle piece.
All right, we got we got good pieces to the puzzle,
and you can just fill out the rest of the
puzzle based on the actions that have had and what
you're hearing.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
So you missed games last year.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Okay, well but you only play five games though, Joe,
I think you got hurt after the field game.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Okay, listen, all right, we're going into a new season.
You're still not healthy. Right when it got a second opinion,
maybe your second opinion said, you know what, you need
to just relax and let it heal. On the song,
maybe the team said, well, you need to get surgery.
So again, now we're going to another season. You missed
so many games last year. Now the season rolling around again,
(44:28):
you're still not healthy.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
You're not on the field.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
They see you on on camera dancing around, you know,
having fun and doing doing stuff. That's that's not for one,
helping the team too, that's not helping yourself. And three,
what we're paying you means as dollars to do you're
not earning that. You're not earning that. You're not going
to do that on our time or our clock, right,
And so they made a business decision.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I'm looking at it like, like I said, if he's
in the last year of his contract, he doesn't have
this guaranteed money.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
And he thinks, like, hey, I get it. I totally
get it.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But he got thirty, he got he got what he
had already got like forty nine mini, he got another
seven coming this year, and then guess what, O joe,
he got another twenty five coming, another twenty five, twenty
seven coming the following year.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
So he's protected. That's why.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
That's why guys want these guaranteed contracts, O Joe, so
I can be protected not just for one year, but
for multiple years.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
So I get it.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
But if the report is what Chef is saying is true, right,
I just don't know when this started taking place. Guys,
like I said, Hey, look like I said, o Joe,
we ain't look, I don't put I don't put more
two item, gone through so many two of the two
paste putting toothpaste on the guys during training camp, because
(45:47):
I know all you gonna do is just walk out
the door and pull it shut. He ain't gonna look
back at it. He just gonna grab it and got him.
I done poured so much alcohol and lit it on
fire up under the door.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, we play pranks like that, but we know.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Look, you ain't don't touch a man's you know, boy,
I saw somebody almost got the brakes beat off him.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
He took his hair, he took his brush, took his
dew brush and caught his pubant, bushed his pubert air.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
With it with his brush and put it back.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Okay, see see, people don't play now, man. It ain't nothing.
It ain't nothing but a brush. It ain't it ain't
that serious. People don't play the way you play. Everybody
don't play like that. And you and you need to
understand that, right because you dealing with Look, I said,
(46:38):
I just don't I don't get it. I just like
I said, I grew up at a time where men
men didn't play men rarely didn't play at all. I
remember my grandfather and I'm telling no jokes, like I said,
and uh we told the story of my brother. I
just sat down with him about somebody made a joke
about my grandfather's teeth. And as my grandfather was driving off,
he had his teeth, he had his false teeth. They
were sitting on the dash and got a uh uh,
(47:02):
mister Bardy, don't let the don't let your tea for
a runaway.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
My grandfather put that car in reverse, stop that car
and got out said, don't play. Say I'm enough to
be your dad. They don't play with me. He said,
I'm a grown ass man. He say, find somebody to
play with, and I'm not him man. Probably about five
sea here before he spots my grad Because if you know,
(47:28):
back all people used to go get the gas. That
should get that full service. O Joe, you know what
I'm saying. They ain't get a hey, pump the whole gas. Hey,
cause you did the windows. And you know what I'm saying,
Oh Joe, you did the window, got the windows all nights.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
And you know that they do that in Jersey. Huh oh,
they do that.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
They do that in Jersey, okay man.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
And so I'm I'm I'm I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I'm really surprised that, uh and in today's society that
allegedly what Christian Wilkins did.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
I mean because he's like I said, there are.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Some things that like and and and photos that surface
and I don't know, it might be a it's hard
to say.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Hell, I don't got the way.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I don't really believe nothing no on the internet anymore
because I don't even know if it if it's real,
O cho, if it's AI, because A I have have it.
You know, got an alligator riding the horse. So I
don't even know what to believe anymore, O Joe. But
I'm just saying, God, stop playing so much. All these
(48:29):
people in pranks and all this stuff. And you see
people walking up and they tried to prank somebody and
they do it all this stuff shot that yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, come on, come on that. You're gonna get
yourself hurt. And the first thing somebody family gonna say,
they didn't have to do him like that, or they
(48:50):
didn't have to do her do her like that.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
No, you didn't have.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
To play like that. People, everybody don't play the same.
Somebody gonna let y'all have it, So just stop, just stop,
Like you said, O yo, that's a total stranger. You
don't know that from Adam and I know some I
know I got great friends. But we know how to
play and we know what to say when we play.
(49:15):
You know certain things. There's certain things that's off limits,
and you understand that you did it.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
With you always know what line not the cross.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
You know your friends, You always know what what what
can get that what buttons the push?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
You know it button's not the push.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
You know what line, not the cross, and there's there's
great understanding with that when it's it's someone that you've
been friends with for a very long time. Now, when
somebody knew like you're on a new team, a teammate
that you don't know that well outside of that building,
there's certain things you can't do.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
You can't conduct yourself.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
You know the way you conduct yourself with somebody knowing
twenty twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
That's why you go in a new environment.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
You sit back and you observed, Yeah, okay, I can
joke with him, m I can't joke with him, or
I can say something like this to him. Yeah, I
can't say that to him.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
You got to read the room.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
That's why you observe.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Give yourself a month or two, three months, excuse me
to observe and see who you can and can't. Yeah,
who you can talk to, who you can make joke with,
who you can do certain things too. You just need
to be observing because being in a locker room, because
you got a lot of different backgrounds, don't Joe Paper
come from a lot of different areas. I mean the
(50:30):
socio economic background, the different religions, the different ideology, how
somebody was raised.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Hey, you don't know what the trigger is.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
You just don't want to be the one to pull
it right. So I'm sorry the young man, but hopefully
they get this resolved. Because he's extremely talented. He can play,
oh yeah, going to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
He can play.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, he can rush the past, He's tremendous against the run.
It seems to me that he really enjoys the game.
Sometimes I think he enjoyed it too much. But this
I just, like I said, we don't know what Schefter's
reporting that this incident did happen, but he's said that's
not the sole reason of why they chose to go
(51:19):
in this direction.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Like I said, that's what Shefter's being reported. We're reporting, basically,
we're commenting on what Schefter's reporting. What we do know
is that he's been released and they're basically saying, we
ain't paying you. He filed agreements with the NFLPA trying
to get the guaranteed money that he believes he's old.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
We'll see
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