*BONUS Why Are Hip Hop Artist Held To Street Standards

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
And welcome back to another episode of No Sealers Podcast
with your hosts now fuck that with your loaw glasses Malone.
What's the deal? What's the deal? What's the deal? What's
the deal? I told y'all what was gonna happen? Lex
I told y'all what was gonna happen. Lex I told

(00:23):
y'all what was gonna happen. Lex told y'all what was
gonna happen? You know, this is the thing, man, Like,
this is the thing. I get it. Most people just
want to argue with me. I don't know why they
want to just argue with me. I don't even really
comment on things that I don't have any information on,

(00:46):
Like there's a confusion. Me and Pete talked about this before.
People think I like to talk, you know.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Me, in real life, I don't like to talk.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Ask my little brother.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
My little brother the first one to tell you I
don't always talk to him. My mother will tell you
I don't always talk to her. My father will tell
you I don't always talk to him. I'll ask the
questions the things that I need to know. I don't

(01:21):
really got much to say.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Now, if you somebody I feel like I can get
information from, I'll ask you the questions and talk to you.
If you're somebody I'm trying to pass information too, I'm
gonna talk to you. But for the most part, I
don't got nothing to say. I seen this situation happening
with asap Relli, and he is on that stand telling

(01:47):
telling on Rocky, saying all of this and that.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
And somebody hit me on Twitter and.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Said, glasses man, why do they keep judging these rappers
like they from the street?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
And I keep telling people.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
This is after years and years of studying that hip
hop is street urban culture personified through those elements. So
when y'all hear the brothers from New York, you know
what I mean, shout out to every one of them
brothers that pioneered this hip hop thing, you know what
I mean, and save these ghetto kids that they did,
you know what I mean, Shout out to New York

(02:24):
for figuring out this very artistic approach and something that
was monetizable. You feel me in the business for them,
So minus the money, but just even a smarter way
to construct your energy. Because while they was figuring out
artistically how to construct the street urban energy. You know,
we was defining our own and gang banging, and it

(02:45):
led to us fighting and different things Like fighting ain't
a part of the culture, but it's just kind of
what happens as you start to tribe up. But shout
out to them brothers from New York for giving us
this thing. You know what I'm saying is saved my life.
I can honestly say it saved my life. So the
time that I put in to learn what's happening is

(03:08):
really just hot. It's really omas. Is something that genuinely
saved my life. That's it.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
It wasn't something I really had to work hard on.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
So when you see Rarey up there telling, shout out
tell you SHAPRELLI up there telling you know what I mean,
Shout out to you, Saprelly, and shout out to all
of them little goofballs that came from the blog gear
that think that's cool because they keep trying to disassociate
this hip hop.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Thing from its street roots.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
From these street roots, you cannot separate hip hop from
the street They go hand in hand.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's just about it.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Real quick, just from Caught Up. This is in reference
to the shooting of the girl's foot. He was in
the cars.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Last No, No, that was another thing.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Okay, what's this about?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
No two homies posting to homies posting the post the
link up and just get it, get a fair one
on and one nigga showed with a motherfucker start a
pistol and then you know what I'm saying, And then
fucking Brandon.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
I'm saying, flashes the ship does a flash dance, you
know what I'm saying, And then fucking around and uh
and and and the.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Dude get a get a straight, straight knuckle and try
to cash out right now when the dude and you
know what I'm saying, and do some sucker ship and
get on the stand on this man, and fucking and
and just reenacted the whole ship on the stand like
that ship is just crazy, man Like, like ship is
out of here now.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Man, this civil suit, no, this is this is a
criminal suit.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
They No, he's trying to He's gonna that's what that's
why he's doing the shit for.

Speaker 6 (05:03):
So it's like he gotta go.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
You gotta go through the criminal stages first to end up,
you know what I'm saying, To go over to the
to the simple ship then, but some suckle ship though, man,
some straight suckle ship.

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(05:59):
as well, because it's a lot of the people misleading.
It's a lot of it's a lot of a lot
of controllers in the space misleading people and confusing them,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
And that's a big thing that's happening.

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(06:33):
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Speaker 4 (06:37):
Hell, are we still in the fourth season? Five and
a half years? When's it ended?

Speaker 6 (06:42):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
This is like forty six episodes. Yesterday we drive the
forty six episode of season four. Okay, so we have
six more to turn in, gotcha? It's fifty two seasons
in the episode. But we did so many extra episodes.
It's to the point where people feel like I would

(07:02):
be a better podcaster than I was a rapper, and
that could never happen. Shout out to Joe, Shout out
to homies. And that's not even because you are a
good rapper, Like I am a fantastic rapper and I'm
hell bent on proving it this year. So we could
just get that out the way. I'm not leaving this thing.
No stone will be left unturned. I'm gonna burn this

(07:23):
shit down before I leave it, and I'm not leaving.
I fell in love with it, so I'm staying. So
y'all stuck with me. I don't give a fuck I'll
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Speaker 1 (07:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
We just dropped the fresh episode Conversations about Mexicans using
the N Word, which is a really great episode with
my homeboy Jobs from Detroit got a great podcast called
Intellectually Petty Radio.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
He always used to be.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
On my ass because I'll explained to him my Mexican
pot this we you know, we call each other the
N word, my partners since the sandbox, and he was
on my ass.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
So again, listen to it with a open mind.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'm not saying you should let your Mexican partners do that,
but my Mexican partner has been my knicks.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
So check it out below.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
I feel like I should have been there for that
one right there with the Puerto Ricans. We got part
with the perto Ricans.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, we don't double back. We will double back, So.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
I think part series or something like that, because I
wanted to get any means.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Or t or trash on that too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, So for the whole black for the whole Black
History Month we're doing, we got Pete all the way
in black topics so Pete could just laugh and ship
at the man that's happening and give his very American perspective.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I wanted to write a thesis paper on the topic
of just like an extensive article. I like it really was,
because it's because Malcolm interrupts me so goddamn frequently that
I can't ever get through a paragraph. He is get
bogged down in so much linguistic medutia that I've never
actually gotten to a point on a topic in fifteen years.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
You should.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
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(09:30):
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Speaker 1 (09:38):
And Here we Go.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Shout out to Fact Today, Shout out to Lex Lex
was here early my boy Lex Queen is in a house.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (09:45):
New York?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Thank you for operating.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
What happened is a shap rally told and we're finna
talk about why. What's wrong with these goofballs? Where the
disconnect is happening. Shout out to Drake lost because the
culture does always win. Rough end TV. Shout out to Queen,
Daddy Act, Thank you b for being here. Hassan, what's
going on?

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Todd?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Todd?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Got that Dostill top? Fixed your stuff revenge? My boy
was heading it beinge always with the kickback of Mere Queen.
Everybody in the house. Godfather, what's going on? Shout out
to y'all. V what's the deal, Craze, what's up?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Craze.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
We need to get you on this back end? Makes
you yet your stuff set up?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Is today the twenty ninth of the thirtieth.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
There's a twenty ninth.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Okay, I gotta shoot an early. Happy birthday to a
job He says, birthday is the thirtieth, right, but we
can't make it because we've got a parade conflict. We do,
but I wish him the best and.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
My niece's birthday on the thirtieth, So Happy birthday to
my knees.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
My birthday today.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Happy to see that, yes, sir, happy My.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Sister birthday was the twenty fifth. Yeah, I'm done with
birthdays for it.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Man, shout out to v Glasses. Can we get a
political Everybody Got to Go? Part two? Everybody Got a
girl that's a tough one.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Man mac a political podcast. If we gotta get really
painted into a cul de sac for that to happen.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I don't even know how to.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I don't even the only way I would do a
politic conversation if I sat down with a bunch of
gang members. Shout out to a mirror k who makes
a great point. You shout out to mister Green, Amir,
this is true for some reason, this January been long as.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
He yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, It's.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Been a lot in January. Shit, it felt like it
had been sixty days. But I'm grateful to be here
all of these days, and we up in here. So
I'll tell you what's wrong. We talked about this, right,
You cannot disconnect hip hop from the streets. It's not evolving.

(11:56):
If you do, it is not hip hop. That's why
when these situations happen, everybody in hip hop or that's
of said culture. Don't matter which specific ghetto you from,
they are in dismay. They are confused, they don't get it.
We're looking at really a shop really right now, like

(12:18):
what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Minus all of the extra stuff that's going on, but
what are you doing? What's happening? Same thing with Gunner
And I see what people are saying. You know what
I mean with Gunner's case, right, they like with glasses.
You know, his statement couldn't be used as as a
way to incriminate, or his statement couldn't be used in

(12:43):
a court of law against dug. If I tell somebody
you did something, even if they don't use it in
a court of law, it's still me telling.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's still me telling. Y'all.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Don't get that, y'all keep and I feel bad. And
that's how I'm starting to realize people don't understand what
street urban culture is because every day I get a
new comment on Instagram, five comments somebody argue with me, well,
you know, if you saying this person because they're not street,
then what about And I'm like, I didn't say that

(13:21):
to be street.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Here's a I think maybe a better line of disassociation
isn't between street and hip hop, between like street and criminality,
because like, what's the different a street code and the
criminal code? Can you be street without being engaged in
the criminal code?

Speaker 6 (13:41):
You can be.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Everybody that grew up in said culture does not are
not a criminal, but they also know that they can't
tell in situations. You know what I'm saying, Like if
you're involved in the crime. Now, listen, if you grow
up in the ghetto as trap and you see some
weird older man, you know, uh, sexually violating some fourteen

(14:08):
year old kid or fourteen year old girl, old body's
gonna call you a snitch if you call the police
on that. Yeah, for sure, not none of us, even
as a gang member. Even as a gang member, right,
even as a gang member, I wouldn't. Nobody would look

(14:28):
at me crazy if I called the police. That'd be like,
why you didn't do nothing to him? Didn't do nothing
to him? That's the thing that that's the confusion. The
confusion is you are expected to deal with justice when
you grew up in this culture. If you see some
out of place shit happening, your job, pete is to

(14:48):
rectify yourself. That's your job rectified yourself.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Fix it.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Don't don't ask for the white police officer to come
down and fix the fix it. If you see something
you would get Hell. If you see somebody little sister
being sexually assaulted by some older man and you didn't.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
Do that, now you ate right, then you better do something.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
And if you are funny and you scared of this person,
you call the police, Nobody gonna call you a snitch.
So again, I see the narratives that be shaping with
certain people who have platforms, and don't get me wrong,
there's a lot of people trapped.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
And this is why I be on you, lex all
of us about.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Really taking this gatekeeper thing serious, because if we don't,
we're gonna have people misleading other people about what we
believe in. That's why I'm so stringent about what hip
hop is.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (15:50):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I wasn't like this, and I had made means of
dollars doing this. It cost me more money to do
what I'm doing than I make money. It cost me
more relationships to do what I'm doing. Feel me, then
if I didn't say half of this stuff, I could
go get a song like if I don't say this
about Drake. If I don't do this, I can get
a song with these people and that's worth money. But

(16:13):
because I live by this standard of existing, I need
to be able to look at myself in the mirror.
I don't care if I got one hundred dollars or
one hundred thousand. Don't get me wrong, I liked one
hundred thousand. But look, you just can't do anything for
no money. I gotta be able to look in the mirror.
That's why these rich people be killing theyselves, you know

(16:33):
what I mean? Yeah, I never noticed all these people
look at shout out to Diddy. Diddy is my man.
I feel bad for him. He's going through a lot again.
The way he was living was a standard of existing
for people in the entertainment business. Let's be honest. They
was all these parties. They was all sleeping with the girls.
Yeah they bought vagina. Yeah they used to do drugs.

(16:55):
That's stay thing. That was the standard. You wake up
thirty years later. Everybody want to get some moral and
they don't want to get no morals trapped.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
They just want to act like they got morals.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
They just want other people to look like they got morals,
I do that want They don't really even but they
would go to this party right now. Who don't want
to go to a party where all the vaginas paid
for and it is free.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Anybody been to the party, but they wasn't there after
a certain time though, you don't realize that they all
been at parties, but we ain't gone. I ain't never
seen none of that ship going in the line with
the fuckers I've been in.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I never saw it.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
But I don't think, trust me, I would have participated
unless you be honest, I'm gonna keep it a being
with you.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm gonna keep it a being with you.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
It should sound like a good time time.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I'm not that kind of person trapped.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
If I would have went girls and it was would
have told y'all, I'm like, man, that shit was cracked.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm not one of these dudes. I swear to god.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
If I would to a puff party and it was
like three girls wanted to take me down, I'm going down.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
And I.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
I mean, you've been to those type of things like
trap like you can't like we were saying, like way back,
you kind of know how it goes, like you you
started in general speak like the it's true in like
a lot of the big city is true down here,
Miami is true.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
In l am.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Sure, you start at the club, you got general pop,
Then batter bitches get to the tables. Then of the tables,
the baddest bitches get to the cars. Then those bad
bitches get to the house. Then in the house, the
baddest bitches get to the back room, and then there's
a security guard end of the hall. So you got
people drinking cocktails at the kitchen in the living room area,
and then you got this long hallway with four bedrooms
and no we can get over there. I've been at

(18:46):
a few of those things where I'm like, I went
down some stairs looking for a bathroom. There's three dudes
in black sus about three hundred a piece, go and
there's three bedrooms over their shoulder. You got the row
condition on this side, right upstairs.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I almost want to cut out for me not being
at that part of it.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Wait a minute, you mean it was three and four
girls that would have time.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Somebody said that ship. Somebody said, Joe, hold on.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
When I heard it was the parties going on, I
looked at myself, like, hold on, I ain't get invited.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Facts thought there, ye got there.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
I couldn't get this.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
So I'm not lying to you.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm not one of those guys that feel like, oh
you know what, Like Yeah, if I would have went
and I had a great would have told you.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I don't care what the laws sin. I'm not. I'm
not hiding nothing. If I did it, I did it.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
If I saw Stunner doing something out of pocket ship,
out have told you. If I saw Little Wayne doing
somebody pocket ship out of told you, I'd be like, man,
Lil Wayne was over there.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
No, I never saw it.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
So if all this out of pocket ship is happening,
I I'm almost disrespected.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I like girls.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Now, look, if there's a bunch of men, I understand
why you didn't invite me.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I understand, but puff parties. I would have liked to
have been at a freak off. Wait a minute, no
guy is gonna buy I could have watched me.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
I could have watched me.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I don't people for CASTI he could have hired me
for Cassie at that time, prime glasses for casting with
the greatest Yeah, but you got a couple of racks
for me to not Castie down. Yea, I'm knock the
bottom out of the motherfucking As for this money, you're.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Gonna go double platinum with these beats.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Take some of these moves, you the puff, give me
a beat in two thousand.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
That's it for you ever more.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
For I got you man trying to join in. We
have a problem. But I'd be honest, like I wouldn't
even be a finn. I'll be like, nah, bro, I
don't really get down like that.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
But you think you had to ask those shiny suits
at the house.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Could have took notes now that with the baby or
put the baby and making themself.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Like ye cowboys, if you had.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Listen, Shout out to everybody that's saying I'm wild because
Puff could have took notes.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Puffer.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Watch a real player do his thing. I ain't tripping.
I put on the show. You can watch Puff could
take notes.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Puff for thirty years.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, he could take notes and get some tips.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
He's been doing polling and general research observations for thirty years.
Still can't get it right. Those who can't play coach,
those who can't play coach.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
So what I'm saying is again, it's it's this, It's this,
weird element where.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
There's a.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Pep watch about fact, there's a weird element of like
you trying to separate hip hop from the streets, you cannot.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
They don't go.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Exclusive shout out to Amir who made it, who said
a point he felt like hip hop is getting away
from the streets.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's not what you.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Looking at is more people monetize the hip hop's space
that don't make them hip hop. I told y'all, this
is the sixty fifth live stream. We started this August
twenty eight, twenty twenty four. That was the first time
we did it. Pete, it's been four months.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I told y'all.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Then beat it.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I said, y'all thought I was talking crazy. I explain
to y'all why Drake wasn't hip hop.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
That don't mean he not talented. I explain to y'all
why Act is not hip hop. That don't mean he
not talented. I explain to y'all, now I gotta talk
to Adam, But Adam or Vlad why they're not. It's
not because that they are white people are there are untalented,
right or blah blah blah. It's because they are not
of the elk culturally, clauw they not of the cloth

(23:08):
or not. And what happens is Act built his whole stage,
you know what I mean, off of hip hop, off
of really incredible investigative journalism with a twist of flavor
because he's a brother steal again, he built it off
the war in Shiraq. Bro, that's like politician prize shit.

(23:31):
Don't get it confused. Because he's a brother from Jamay
that is, That's why his platform is what it is today.
He single handedly, for the most part, brought us a
phenomenon culturally out of Chicago when nobody else did. Y'all

(23:52):
can understand how powerful that is. To Like, if I
discovered the g funk movement is happening and then it
went national, I go now with it. Well, that's the
same thing for Act and Drill. He went national with something.
I've been following Act since he was like less than
ten thousand followers, Bro, when he used to get eas
I'm like, all these stories about these people in Chicago,
they like mystical people, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (24:14):
You see this stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
But again, that don't make him a part of this culture.
And see, Sherry, this is my problem. Academics is not
our brother. He's made a mockery of our culture. He
ain't make a mockery of our culture, Sherry, because he
is again, y'all gotta stop saying our culture because this
is where it get confused. This is where it keep
getting confused at that's the problem. That is a brother.

(24:37):
It's not about if he is a black American, which
that don't even make sense. If he's American, he's a brother.
That's a Jamaican man. That's a brother. Drake is a brother.
They are not of this culture. This is a specific culture.
There's other black people in America that's not a part
of this culture, and if the same thing happened to them,

(24:58):
they would do the same thing that Asap really is doing.
The difference is when Drake told the police when them
people robbed him and he gave them the information and
they robbed him for his watch, none of us looked
at Drake like a snitch because we know, God damn well,
he not like this. This is the kid that had
to show Nickeolodeon if you rob what's the man that

(25:19):
be talking to? Everybody think he's crazy, but he had
a slick and smart.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
No, No, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
What's the brother Simon? She was on the Simon Show.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I don't know, you know, I'm talking about everybody thinking
crazy all the time.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
He was talking about.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
No the dude.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
He was on a nikomotive show.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
You're talking about Brown.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
There you go, Orlando Brown. Grin's got it, my man revenge, Yes,
Orlando Brown. If you rob Orlando Brown, Orlando Brown is
supposed to call the damn police on you. Orlando Brown
is a Nickelodeon kid. Now that's not to say will
I'm telling you you're not supposed to even do that
to him. Yeah, shout out to TZ who got it.

(26:11):
Diggie Simmons is not a gangster, but he is of
the culture. Diiggie Simmons that grew up poor none of that.
King is not no poor ghetto kid.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
T I son.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
But he ain't telling the damn police because.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
He know the rules.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Cherry, stop claiming. Stop claiming him. He would never claim us.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
He's not us.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Please stop, Sherry. That's not with us, Sherry. Everybody is
not us. I don't know what us you talking about,
not like talking about that is our brother.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
That is a black man.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
That's I'm saying we're telling you he's not this culture.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
You could say he's not American. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I'm saying minus American. He is not our brother in
this cultural thing. Trap is my brother in this cultural thing.
Through different levels, we live by the same standards, Sherry does.
Too many Black people in America that don't live by
the standard. This is not a Black American coach not snitching.
It's not a Black American thing, which I hate saying that.

(27:13):
It's not a black person thing, Sherry. Not snitching is
a hip hop thing. That's a street urban thing. It
is not nothing about it's nothing shary about of being black.
Black people are supposed to call the police when people
wrong them.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
That's the problem.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Now, it's too many black people listening to hip hop thinking.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Like you supposing there this way?

Speaker 6 (27:37):
No, you not.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
That's why you find yourself in these situations and.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
You don't know what the hell to do.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
See a mirror is going in the direction that I
was about to go in. This is a generational thing, though, glasses.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
But it's not a generational thing. No, it's not. Y'all
keep acting like kids. Is like, you know what you
can snitch now? No, they don't y'all not gonna make
my young homies rats. They're not rats neither. They don't
think that's cool neither.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
But yeah, it's happening way more.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
No, it's just happening on Twitter and YouTube and what's happening.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
It was happening, but just in the street.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
In the street, coach motherfucker's been telling them that. Yeah,
they just they they you know what they're doing, though
they're not they're not penalizing, they're not looking at them
dudes that's doing this ship as being wrong for doing it.
They're find.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Like you had an era where they didn't do it,
then an era where they did it and it was
frowned upon, and that yielded an era where it's not
quite so frowned upon.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
But this is not true. This is not true, Pete,
And this is the problem. This is why people keep
saying that's not true. What you have now is a
bunch of people that are not of street urban elk
that you have access to. See, back in the day,
you didn't have access to that. Like the average person
that came from hip hop didn't have access to the
average person hop.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
I'm not talking about hip.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
Hop people years did.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Other nineties two thousand. It ain't more now, just.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
That's that's tracked. It is more now, for sure. It
is absolutely more now because it tracks parallel with the
rampant increase in sentencing minimums.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
But I think, okay, it's more people, so that could
possibly be true.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
It's not that there's more people, there's more steak.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
But even that, it's not because there's a pass on it.
There's still culturally not a pass on it.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I think that I think there's becoming more of a
pass on it.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Never was.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
It never was.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
This is the confusion people can thinking that six '
nine is getting a pass for telling.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
He's not.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
That's why he's in trouble now.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
The only people that he matters to are people who
are not of this culture. The average everyday American, PETE,
don't care if you told. They never get average here.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
The average American doesn't care if you're told in life.
But the average consumer cares if you told.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
But why would the consumer care if you tell if
you not coach.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
It's the whole paradox of the hip hop broad consumer
relationship in a nutshell.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
But that don't make sense Pete just.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Doesn't make sense. That's why it's a paradox.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
But even the concept of it being a paradox Pete
is still disingenuous to say it's okay now, it's not.
It never was okay, It's not okay today. Shout out
to Revenge, who makes a good point. He said, I
think it's situational for these kids. Sixty nine didn't get
a sexon second chance, but Gunna did. They are adding
situations they he didn't get a second chance.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
He didn't seem real side to me, what.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Do you mean, No fucking urban rapper that's of any
statue will work with him. Don't confuse that he comes
home and has less numbers than he had before. This
is the problem. The culture still obtracizes him. Who doesn't
right now, Roddy Ridge did a sow on him. It
looked crazy. Everybody's talking about in the street. It look crazy.
But look where his social currency is going. Yeah currency

(31:28):
is going. Look where he social look where his cultural
cash is That it is not cool, Pete. And that's
the problem that people keep saying that is not situe.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
I'm not saying it's affirmatively cool, like like my my spectrum,
and usually people go zero to ten. I'm always negative
ten to positives ten. Yep, that's how I usually. I'm
not saying it went from negatives to positives. I'm saying
I went from negative ten to like negative three.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I don't even think it's negative three. What would have
happened Sammy de Boy Gravano told in the in the nineties.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, that's why I'm saying that there's three tiers of
the timeframe of the of the evolution of the principle
of acceptance.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
But there is no principle of listen. So we're talking
about culturally. Shout out to Todd. I'm saying you're right,
but I'm gonna tell you where Todd has. It's confused
you keep talking about in because you're not talking about
with us, because I'm not talking.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
About I'm literally I'm basing my opinions from from from
my Arizona people and and the way that those guys
have defined the rampant change of how things are going
on in Phoenix. That's that's what I'm really really speaking from.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, you're not talking about Arizona card accepting snitches. We
wouldn't mess with people from Arizona.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
And I'm not saying they're accepting them. I'm saying it's
it's it's it's become less of a scarlet letter and
so rampant that it's just it's just it's priced in
like a new tax.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
But even that pete like this is the problem. There's
this weird rhetoric happening on social media. Snitching is accepted now.
It's not the only people who except snitching. It's people
who never cared about people being snitches in the first place.
The average mainstream America would tell on everybody at their job.

(33:16):
They would tell if somebody store the stapler, they've been rats.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
They tell all the time.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
It's not accepted, it's encouraged. It's you're doing your cific duty.
That would be on the positive side of zero.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
No, on the side of snitching.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Not not not necessarily you saw something happening, but you're
a part of something that's wrong. And then you tell
on the person right you you stepped time, clock laid
in the square world.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
That is your cific duty. That's like contrition and your
civic duty.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
No, I'm saying, if you're doing the same thing, that's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
That would be the contrition portion.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yes, okay, so the contrition portion, right, that's the only
place it's accepted.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
It ain't never gonna be accepted where me and trapped from.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Oh I'm not saying accepted, just saying less of a
scarlet letter.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
He's saying it's looked the part. It's not looked the
part as harshly as as it once was. So now
people that people are not I think it is though,
like you said, you said, the only ones who ain't
looking at it like that was the ones who ain't
never look at it like it's being you know what
I'm saying, what they would tell also, you know what
I'm saying, that's what that's your basically is.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
He is a perfect example if they tell it song
at your job or whatever actionist on Lebron, that's not
no street shit.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Nobody looked at him.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Great, first off, that's that's just totally different to snitching.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I don't even that's some unmassingle.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
That's whole ship, that's whole shit, right.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, So and this is the problem Todd, and this
is the most confusing thing. And shout out to Todd
from this statement, because this is important.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Glasses either you ain't making sense or I'm lost.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Drake and Kendrick just had a full blown battle snitching
on one another.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
And the culture loved it.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
This is why sometimes you gotta just be a fan
of hip hop and stop thinking you understand some of
these terminologies because nobody exactly, nobody who is from any
street level sees that at snitching. But this is the
this is the entitlement, Pete, I've been telling you with
hip hop, where people who consume hip hop think they

(35:22):
are now of said culture. They don't know, Like Todd
doesn't know. He doesn't know. He like, well if you
he don't know, But Todd, stay out of it.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
It's like like like Kobe saying Shaq cheating on his
wife or something. It's not, I swear to tell, it's
just being a bit gossip filled.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Kobe is being a bitch. Yeah, straight up, it's some
bitch ass shit. It's some bitch ass ship.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Damn.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Pedophilia is a crime. But you have to say it
happened to Ashley on June third, twenty thirteen, not just
he does it.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Sometimes That's not how it works, Todd, That's not how
it works, right, But it's hard to explain this because
it's a nuanced thing. Dog, you're trying to express something
that took years to understand. Look at it. This is snitching.

(36:23):
Snitching is when I commit a crime, right, and then
I tell on someone else's crime so I don't have
to be accountable for my crime.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Todd, Yeah, same with Dan. I think with Dan, we're
not cherry picking who's doing the talking. With cherry picking,
what the talking really means.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yes, y'all don't get it because y'all keep trying to
conflate ideas. And it's because you're not upset culture. That's
why sometimes you just gotta listen. You gotta listen. You
gotta stop thinking because you heard some songs, you watch movies,
you know what's going on.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
I'm giving you something that's concrete.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
If you commit a crime and then you tell on
someone else's crime to not be held accountable your crime,
that's snitching. That that and that is the thing. You
take it snitching. If anybody else says anything else to you,
they line don't matter. If you've been to the FIDS,
I'm telling you what it is. I don't give it.
And my mother died in the FIS. That was her

(37:24):
third term in the FID.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
That don't matter.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Shout out to.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Hip hop than it is, but that's not a balance.
That's a fan and that's what's wrong. Like Act is
a fan of hip hop. He is not hip hop.
That's what y'all gotta separate. Y'all gotta stop thinking because
somebody uses the N word and they talk to you
about hip hop, that that's hip hop.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
That's what you.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Skip of ports on basketball every day? Right There ain't
no basketball player, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,
come on, you can be a sports analyst and not
be a sports player.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
So like, come on, you can't do that right there.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I did eleven years in prison, bro, I know how
this work. I'm saying, y'all picking and choosing, bro, that's ridiculous.
Roddy working with gun All you had to say was
Roddy look at his career. We don't think Roddy should
be working with no fucking Gunner. That's what everybody's saying
in the streets. Why the fuck would you work with
this rat? That's why niggas feel some kind of way
because he working with a rat.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
That was like what I was saying in so far
as the ostracization level being diminished to some degree, Like
I like supporting or denouncing Roddy. You can do whatever
he wants to do. I'm just saying it's it's illustrative,
and I think it really comes down, like the plants
making it earlier. When something becomes more pervasive, you kind

(38:57):
of have that's you have no choice but to accept it.
But it becomes harder to then appropriately police consequences to
expanding numbers, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, But again, this is the confusing part of it all.
People keep thinking because you listen to hip hop, you're
hip hop.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
No, you're not.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I eat Mexican food, I'm not Mexican. I speak Spanish,
I'm not Mexican. Just because you consume culture from somebody
don't make you the damn culture. That's the biggest problem.
The biggest problem is we keep thinking hip hop. Is
this a bunch of people buying millions and millions of
records and they hip hop?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
No they not, No, they not.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Just because you report on hip hop mean you are
hip hop. That's the biggest problem. Just because you report
on hip hop don't make you hip hop.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
That's what's wrong.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
That's what's why Stephen A. Smith's not an NBA player.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
No, he's not, he's not. But Charles Barkley is. Shaq was.
Kenny Smith was for Ernie Ernie.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
And it don't mean Ernie don't know nothing about basketball.
It don't mean Ernie don't know nothing. It don't mean
act don't know nothing about hip hop. It just means
that his perception is based from an outsiders looking in.
He's giving you all, and that's why he's so popular
because talking about.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
I don't I don't follow celebrity news. Worth of ship
is Carson Daley was not h oh because he were
reporting because he had hip hop people are like total
requests something. I didn't know what he meant by I
thought he was stitching.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I was.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
I was still like the time sequence in my brain
and the comments and what's happening with the conversation is
all like colliding.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
No, the problem is we keep The problem is we
keep thinking everybody's hip hop.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
One.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
We keep thinking everybody's black as hip hop, especially if
they use the N word.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Right, that's the first thing.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Just because you use the N word and you are black,
don't mean you are hip hop. You don't understand what's happening.
You could have a closer understanding than some other people,
but that don't mean you hip hop. So when y'all
telling me pete, like when you're saying right now, I'm
telling you right now what you're saying is a motherfucking lie,

(41:36):
not talking shit to you. I'm saying what you're saying
is fucking one hundred and seventeen percent incorrect.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Trip will tell you if your rad ass come on the.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Block, it's a problem right there the same way that
was the whole time, because the culture is the same.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
It ain't changed even a half a bit.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Do mainstream people accept it, Yes, And I don't even
think they accept it. I don't think they accept it.
Shout out to my my my brother Moo West like
Moo saying fuck the BS position, that's my man supposed

(42:15):
to be up here. I hate with life, walk in
the door, fucking move. But the streets don't put us
in a dumb position. Dumb decisions put you in a
dumb ass position. We don't got to blame nobody for
being in the positions we are. We make decisions, and
the decisions put us in the position. Listen, hanging out

(42:37):
thud and you don't got a thug. You don't have to.
I understand why you do. But then you also got
to be as accountable for taking that decision.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
It's it's like like the streets. Streets are just in
Adam concrete.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Here you go shout out to U forest not to
pronounce that bun Be snitched on a home invasion suspect.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Was he wrong?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Dude got forty years. Bun b didn't commit no damn crime.

Speaker 6 (43:09):
Bum Bee with bustling at that nigga.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
He didn't commit a crime.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Listen, I keep telling y'all this, I'm giving you something
that is.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
I don't see.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
What's so hard to pred Scott snitching is when you
commit a crime. So you you have to commit a
crime first. You have to commit a crime first, or
you have to be into the life of crime first.
You have to be a criminal, right, You have to
commit a crime, and then you tell on someone else
to not be held accountable for your own crime.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah, oh, obviously this is not a mystery. Clearly, over
the course of the past thirty years, probably the expression
telling lost its con text in the appropriate sense of
this particular.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Because civilians got they fucking hands on it because street,
urban culture, artistic merit feel me and here they go.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I'm tired of y'all trying to tell me. Stop telling me, Dan.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I'm telling you, y'all, get on this motherfucker stop arguing
with me. Shut the listen to what I'm telling you.
Take this shit as law. I don't care if you
went to the fence. I'm telling y'all, y'all are the
problems when y'all get up here and be saying some
dumb shit.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
What I'm saying is provable, and this is what's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Y'all keep talking about shit, just causing chaos and confusion,
and that's the problem in the space.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
That's why this motherfucker shit need me.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I can't go do nothing else because y'all motherfucker's fucking
it up. Y'all sitting around this motherfucker you talking shit.
Is Roddy doing a song with gonna snitch it? No, No,
that's not snitching. But I don't want no nigga that
claimed the streets doing something to help a rat.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
That's what you.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
That's a fact. You're empowering a rat. You're wrong for that.
That's wrong.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
And again it's up to us to tell him, Hey, bro,
don't do that. That ain't cool. Don't fuck with that rat.
I don't give a fuck what you personally think. This
is about the movement of people. We do not want
to advocate for nobody that was able to benefit off
the crimes. And then one day when it was time
to take accountability, decided that, oh, I don't want to

(45:34):
take account but you was off this label with this
man making you millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Whatever they was doing, it gave yo.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
It gave what you was talking about the street credit
and credence to where it made sense. People believe gund
was on that time because of the movement of whyre
sailing everything that other them is doing. But you get
in the court and when it's time to actually be
accountable for the shit you're being benefited for. Nobody bought
your raps because we thought you was tight, nigga, We
buy your rask cause we thought you was real. Now,

(46:04):
just because the main street is popular and they getting
you and they arguing with you, and everybody's like, oh,
you know, they didn't use they can't use his statement
in court. It's telling still.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
If you give, if you give the anything of Lord,
doing them with Lord, any type of feel to get
anybody locked them to him saying right there and saying
a man to his wrong doings that was involving the
other people right there. You know what I'm saying that
they could use that right there. Listen, he he over
there ad minutes doing this ship right here for the
same charge we charged him for.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
It looked the part like that the German cold look
at this Jerman look at the ship like that. Well
his col de Fens already capped out. Then hey, let's
say they ain't doing it.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Don't matter.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
The jewelry gonna hear what you're doing, even if nobody
the jam the jury hears it. So you tell it's
tell it don't matter his problem. Why would you say that?
Why would you say, hey, crimes happened and out to
know they was happening inadvertently, I fund, why would you
say that? Listen, Queen. My passion comes from the fact
that I know. That's why I'm not letting Dan or

(47:09):
none of these tired or none of the homies talk
to me and tell me something different. I'm telling them something,
and I'm tired of acting like y'all know something. I
listen to y'all, I let y'all tell me certain things.
Then I'm gonna really tell y'all what it is. When
it comes to shit that I know like the back
of my fucking hand.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
I know this. I studied this, I don't just live it.
I know it.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
There's certain things I don't know, certain things I study,
certain things I live.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
This is one of those things I study and I live.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
See, Mooke, We've talked about that offline that you know.
That's its own discussion, separate and adjacent to this one.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
See, But the difference is.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
That this is the problem. You can't sit up for
nobody else crime, Mooke. They not putting you in jail
for no crime. You didn't commit no crime. You didn't
commit no crime. You didn't commit no crime. If you
didn't commit a crime, you wouldn't be snitching. If somebody

(48:15):
did some shit and you had nothing to do with
that shit, and you be like, nah, that was that, nigga.
That's not telling. We not saying that's telling. Again, y'all
gotta back up, back up, back up, back up, because I.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
See what's going wrong.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
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(48:47):
to buy his lunch. Back up, listens, back up, I
see what's wrong. Let me start again. Here is your
motherfucking thing of snitching. Snitching is when you commit a crime.
A person commits a crime, but he tells on someone
else's crime so he doesn't have to be accountable for
his own crime accountability, which accountability is the cornerstone of masculinity.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
But to what he's saying, the old requit, to what
he's saying, all right there, I know I know people
who did it who didn't sit up.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
You know what I'm saying, Who sat up for somebody
else's crime. Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
They knew who did the crime, and they and they
didn't you know what I'm saying, They didn't say that.
They didn't say Yo, listen, it wasn't me. It was
him know this, that this they sat up there, they
went in front of the corner and I'm saying to
call the law and had to call the law. They
had you know what I'm saying. He knew he ain't
do it, but he knew they He knew who did
it too, but he wasn't gonna go. Yo, listen, it
wasn't me, It was this person. No, you got it,
you know, listen, because because he was in the streets.

(49:47):
He was in the streets already though, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
So, yeah, I'm glad you broke that down. If I'm
if I'm on I'm on timing, right, I'm I'm on guns,
I'm I'm busting guns. I'm doing my thing and my
homie bust and guns and doing this thing. And they
think I committed a crime, right, and they arrest me.
Their job is to prove I don't care who I'm

(50:09):
not crime exactly.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Their job is to prove.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
My job is to defend that I didn't do the crime.
My job ain't to help them do they fucking job.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
And real quick on on on Mook's next comment, I'm
talking about I might have done other crimes, but this
crime is sitting up for da et cetera. Not to
like d dad, but like just it. That's the root
of the Rico principle is using a large group of
people to like obscure the specificity of tying an individual

(50:44):
to an individual crime. So like kind of running cull
ability through an intermediary of a group to obscure who
actually did the thing. So we're just going to charge
everybody for because there weren't charge of obscuring.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, efectively.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
And at that point, if you gang bang and.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
You know how this go, if you committing crimes, I
thought out the dance sacks. You can't draw clear line
on what snitch or not. That's why, No, Dan, you're wrong.
You can draw clear line. Here's the clear line if
you committed a crime, or if you're in a life
of crime and you decide to tell the police or
someone else's crime. If you decide to yell on someone

(51:26):
else's crime to avoid accountability for your own crimes, is snitching.
That's snitching. That's your law. That's a commandment. I'm gonna
put it in a rap song. I'm gonna write the
New Street Commandments. I'm gonna call a song of New
Moses and I'm gonna bring the street commandments because you
niggas is crazy.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
But when you see.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
That person, your homie move if they let you sit
shout out to Mooke.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
He said, so why let your homie shit?

Speaker 6 (51:54):
That?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Ain't youell homie?

Speaker 6 (51:56):
I was?

Speaker 4 (51:56):
I would say like I felt like out of the
gate it would be like this is like like my
personal definition of like snitching. Where the line is me
and Glasses riding in the car. I'm driving my car.
He got a backpack, he got work in the backpack.
Glasses has a hard line. I don't talk to police policy.
I just zip it and zip it up and let
them do what they want to do and we'll fight

(52:17):
it out. When we fight it out, he just goes.
When they get pulled over, the police see the bag
in the trunk or in the back seat, they tie
it to me because it's my car and my possession.
He's not owning it because he doesn't talk. I got
controlled because I'm the de facto possessor of the bag.
But as I but then I go, it's not my bag,
it's his bag. Because we weren't in a transaction together.

(52:39):
That's his shit. If we were in a transaction together,
then I have to shut the fuck up, Seace. I'm party.
I'm an equity owner in the in the fruits of
the transaction.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Even even if you're a driver getting.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
You are an equity owner in ten percent of the
fruits of the transaction.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
Facts, that's a clear If you know what was in
that trunk already though, and you still you told me
to put it in the trunk right there, y'all drove
off right there and the police pull us over.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
It's paid.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
You know, that's your problem. I'll drive you to your
friend's house. But you know I don't own that ship
because I'm not getting paid. I'm not part of your ship.
I'm just helping you out as a friend, so you
owe me if you're just giving me a rider.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
You don't know what's in the bag my job as.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Again, Listen, if you know what's in the bad if
you know what's in the bag, that you ain't supposed
to tell either. You ain't spposed to tell because now
you are a criminal at that point.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
Because you knew what was in the bag already. Though,
that's put the trunk, I put the bag. If I
put the bag in the trunk and I ain't tell
you what was in the bag. That's my big that's
that's on me.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
I got to I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
If I don't understand, if you said, hey, no, this
this nigga bag, I don't get fuck what's in it?

Speaker 3 (53:52):
This is bad.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
But again, if you know I'm taking if I'm like
a pete, take me to drop off this bird, I
don't care if I'm paying you or not. If you
know us a bird in the bag. You know what
what missigned up for it?

Speaker 6 (54:05):
Yeah? You ready?

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Yeah you signed up.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Don't do anybody any favors, is the bottom line, general rule.
If you want a favor for me to drive.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
You, yeah, that's it. You know what I'm saying. That's it.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
But now I'm I'm a scumb back if I put
that bag in that truck and I'll tell you what
was in that bag.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Shout out to AOL. Thank you for the twenty dollars,
my boy for the soapbox family. Yes, sir, we're in
the house.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
We keep bringing up a fifty cent thing. God his
description of.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
It thing dog because I don't know what's got him.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I don't know its case. I don't even want to
bring I don't know his case.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
That he was saying something named Hama shot him, and
he said, I don't I don't know it's case.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
I'm on the things that I know. I don't want
to talk about nobody case.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
In part that's the problem. Now, I don't know his case.
I know this case. I know what's going on.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Don't want anybody but call you fucking that.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
No, this is what we're saying, Cherry, Cherry saying, so,
y'all setting up your friend because the car is in
his name. Sorry, I'm telling that.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
Ain't more.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
No, No, this is what I'm saying, Cherry. If you
if if I so, here's three things that can happen.
If I asked Pete to give me a rod sware
and I got a gallon of PCP in a backpack
and I put it in his car, he don't know
what's going on. Police pulled me over and he say, hey,
that's glasses bag. That's not telling, right.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
And as frankly, if he tells me, if he said, hey, bro,
you want a thousand dollars to drive me across town,
you can't tell. I'm not telling. If he's if he's
if he said, hey, I got some in the bag.
You know, we we rolling some errors. If you drop
over here, that's that's not you can tell that would
not in real life. I wouldn't say you gotta. I
won't let him in the car, making it clear you

(56:02):
have to own that ship. Yeah, like in real life.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
But at that point it has nothing to do with you.
So again it's different. It's it's not it's not confusing.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
It's simple.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
We just cleaning it up for y'all. This acting confused,
it's simple to us. We all get it.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
We all knew. He didn't have to say that.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
We know it.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
That's why Pete, even though Pete is a man, because
street urban culture is bred and primitive and standard masculinity.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
That's why he gets it, even though he not from
the street. Pete, no one.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
If I put a bag of PCP in this car,
we go somewhere and I don't tell him, I better
take it, and he understands. If he don't, I know
he gonna tell on my ass. He ain't going to
jail for it. Don't got nothing to do with him too.
If I say, hey, Pete, give me a ride to
drop this PCP off. He gonna either tell me, are
you gonna take it or you gonna say yes. But
at that point he signs on he no, he can't tell.
Now it's something to need to be a man to
take my own case. Or two, it's up for him

(56:54):
to be a man and say I don't want none
to do it that shit. Don't put that shit in
my goddamn car.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Agree.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I say, hey, I'll give you a thousand dollars to
take me to drop this PCP off.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
We all in.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
Going all the way with this ship. I don't know
who they put it in the truck that she wasn't
in the truck talking about out of here. I don't
know what it is.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Shout out to baby Lane Stanfield.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
He got it. No, nigga, I can't get you a ride.
Catch uber fact.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
That's it, that's it, that's itused.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
I don't understand. Dan.

Speaker 6 (57:31):
Still we're still cool.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
We still calling chaos for no reason. That damn guy
in the chat, he's just calling chaos. I ain't patting
that attention. This is what I'm saying to you, Todd.
I don't know about his case. I never got into
none of them cases. The cases I'm talking about is
the cases I'm talking about, and I'm telling you what's snitching.
You want to sit up here and argue about something

(57:53):
I don't know about, I'd have to read about that
to read through the files, like I read through these
case files.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
I have to read through the files and see what's
going on.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
But I'm also one of them people who don't talk
about ship they don't know about. I'm not talking about
nothing I don't know about. I don't talk about nothing.
I don't know nothing about it. If I don't know
about it, because I'm not talking about it and I
don't know about it.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Dan has brought this point up a couple of times,
and I know what you mean. I know he means. Now,
if you own the ship yourself, it's your decision to
deal with how you want to manage your vulnerability versus
just dumping your vulnerability on the next guy to manage.

(58:34):
I think that's that's largely if you, like I got.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
YouTube, he is fully aware of everything we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
I'll give you. I'll give your case.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Right.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
My man was ryding with his people one time, right,
and he and they double park this man, the man
the call know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (58:56):
My man was in the pastor to see police. Police
went up in the car.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
You know what I'm saying. They find a joint up
in the car. They find a gun up in the car.
You know what I'm saying, My man the driver's not
in the car.

Speaker 6 (59:06):

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Who asked what joint it was? My man get locked
up for the joint? He gotta eat you, you know what
I'm saying. He got he knew the joint was in
the car, to eat the joint. So now at that
point it comes up to y'all gotta approve right now
why it was mine? You know what I'm saying, took it.
The court beat the ship for legal search, you know
what I'm saying. But at the same time, he could
have said, you know, this is not my car.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
This that this is.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
You know what I'm saying, This that this You gotta
let you gotta let the court decide and let the
court figure out what the fucking shit is.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
You don't.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
You don't give them no fucking sort of evidence and
no ship to fuck incriminate somebody else. You know what
I'm saying. You knew that joint was in the car.
You know what you was riding with. You know what
the danger was?

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Red Rose, Red Rose, that's fire.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I'm fit the post that hold up.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
But shout out to Todde He said, we talk about
the UMG case and we really don't know what's going on.
And this is what I be saying when I know
y'all be fucking fans of the fucking out cuz.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Like this is why y'all argue this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
This is why y'all be arguing this shit because y'all
fans are that fucking our cousin. Y'all really feel like
you got mainstay in this conversation because you've been listening
to some motherfucking rat for fifteen years. You don't fucking
know when you're asking me, why are we talking about
the UMGK, you don't know what it's God damn you mean,
I don't know. I know what's going on behind closed doors,
in front of closed doors and in the paperwork.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
You don't know what's going on, and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
You won't accept simple truths because you're a fan and
you not for real. I don't give a fuck if
I'm a fan of no motherfucker. If they did some
buster shit, I'm telling them we talk about the UMG. No,
we talk about the UMG case because the case is
on paper. It's eighty one pages. I've read the eighty

(01:00:49):
one pages. So if you can't tell, if your brain
can't disseminate, cuds the difference when I ain't read no
fifty cent cases, Cousin, I read this case, but you're
talking about I've read the case. I just told Joe
ass I didn't read the other case. So why the
fuck is you not listening? Like you just being retarded, Causin,
it's dumb, like I hate that, and you as a

(01:01:11):
fan of that fucking al you are and it's not
no emotion. But the first day you came here to
argue with me about that fucking al, because that's the truth.
We only know what the court doctor. I'm telling you,
this is what I'm saying. I'm telling you in one case,
I don't know what the court documents say, and I'm
telling you in another case, I know what the court
documents say. But you ask me why am I discussing
one case and not that Cuz I don't know what

(01:01:33):
the court document said.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
I never read them.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Teez has an intersting point with this logic, how the
really due to snitch? He's a victim because he solicited
the conflict in part correct? Is that how I understand it? Yeah,
you can shot running the coption, not like you're getting
a fight and I'm part of a fight and get shot.
You probably shouldn't. Now, it's it's different your party to

(01:02:01):
the activity.

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
And this is what it really comes down to, the
fact that I have to have this conversation at this level.
It all comes down to this. Shout out to Red Rose,
this is brilliant. If it's taking you this loan to
get it, you're not culturally of the street. Don't worry
yourself if you don't get what I'm saying in these cases,
if you don't get what I'm saying in the specific

(01:02:27):
UMG documents where I'm talking about the Owl Swing, this
record label, you don't get it. And that's fine if
you don't get it, bro, But stop making false comparatives,
stop being disingenuous. Building good faith, that's all I'm asking,
That's all I try to do in this thing right here, Bro,
I try to have this thing in good faith. Like

(01:02:50):
you really don't put your name, you really got to dot.
You really don't have a follower, you don't have anything.
Everything you're doing is in bad faith.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
That might be the owl such people.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
It could be, but the point is, it's like the
it's the it's the it's the it's the silly, it's
the unmasculine ability to not be you publicly. You don't
want me to know who you're talking to. And I'm
still treating you in good faith by having you in
a space, honoring things you saying to me, when everything
that you're doing is to not be accountable, which is

(01:03:21):
the most unmasculine ship in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Lucky Lawrence said, gentleman only has two tweets. I only
have one tweet, so he's twice as credible as I am.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
He's gasling right now because that emotional that's a trick bad.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
There's no chance he's mistaken. I am.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I'm passionate about the things that I care about and
know about. That's the emotion you feel, But that's the
reason of emotion. It's disingenuous. I can't stand disingenuous people.
I can't stand people that talk out of good faith
just to have attention. But again, if it's taking you
this long to get it. You're not culturally up the street.

(01:04:06):
Don't worry yourself and shout out to Todd.

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
Todd.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
If you don't know my character, that's why you're confused
on what my character is. Nigga, this is me seven
days a week, three sixty five, breakfast Club, Joe Rogan,
anywhere I'm at. You ain't did no eleven and a
half years. You were our fan. You did eleven days
and motherfucking at Best.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
Sleepweight Camp.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
You're not putting nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Look, we don't even boot trolls. You know what I'm saying.
We don't even around. I mean, I'm just saying you're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Do an issue with Dan. I just thought that we
were looking at this from different angles and kind of
like talking from two different points on the same spectrum line.
I was just trying to get some clarity.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
What I what I realized about social media, bro, it
gives people access into a world that they would never
take theyselves.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
They would never take themselves into.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
And there are people of the street that do have
questions and of the culture that do have questions, but
it's just not real. Shout out to Sydney Fair, Sydney Fairfield.
This disigenuous, okay with destroying community and culture, but mad
when snisched on. Nobody's destroying community and culture. If you
burned down a fucking take care, your ass will go

(01:05:27):
to jail. That's destroying the community. That's destroying the community.
That's destroying the community. Y'all gotta stop trying to have
this up. And this is why half of these people
ain't hip hop when they so goddamn silly to where
they say, oh, they're destroying the culture and the community.
Shut the fuck up. Hell are you talking about, Sidney?

(01:05:50):
What are you talking about? How do how do what
destroy the community? How the hell can somebody pepsy destroy
the community. You ain't picking it in front of their house.
McDonald's destroy the community. You ain't picking it in front
of their house. All of a sudden, now you're worried
about the gangs.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
All the gangs is No.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
What destroyed the communities is the same people black gang
coach are destroying Black Shut your goofy ass up or
destroy No, it's not what destroyed the black community.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
The same white people that have been destroying the black community.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Since its inception.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Shut up, stop making stuff up, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Just wake up one day and just repeat a bunch
of silly rhetoric and it just be crazy and not
just be like y'all don't get it. Y'all, don't get it.
Destroying the black You ain't never even been to the
black What the hell you talking about the black community?
What are you talking about? How the hell did anybody

(01:06:45):
destroy anything? People fight, that's what they do. That's like
saying Israel, the Israel, all the Israel people fight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Where they destroying?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
It's shut up? Oh you know Ukraine is destroying Ukrainey,
shut up, shut up. If people want to fight, let
them fight and let the justice system still with it.
Don't keep your stuff away from you. And it's not silly, Dan, No,

(01:07:15):
snitching is a silly rhetoric. Stop being stupid. Of course,
it's not be a man or make better decisions. It's
the best thing I ever heard in my life.

Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
Not snitch.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
It might be the greatest law I have ever heard
in my entire life. Because if you do not want
to be have nothing to do with this, stay out
of it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
This is kind of what I was going to say,
Like if everybody abided by that, then the volume of
criminality would plummet because eighty five percent of the people
involved really.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Have more.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Either I don't want to say value for their time,
but they perceived themselves to be in a space that's
less reckless than to just be like, I don't give
a fuck, I have nothing else to lose, so I'm
just gonna go full throttle. That would cut through an
enormous amount of that population. It really would.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Shout out. Shout out to Hymnism, who invited the Fox
News pane on the Chat facts, who brought the fucking
clam memories to the lunch table man.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Talking about me first too.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
They gotta eat too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Oh man, look at this. So this is my point, Sidney.
Two dudes going to mission said, mission is criminal activity.
Criminal activity destroys something. Dude, they gets mad, Dude, be snitches.
Yet people pretending he's hold to moral standards. Make it
make sense, Boss. You know why because at the end
of the day, when people agree to be outside of
the law. See the way you see the law, Sidney,

(01:08:48):
this is your problem. You see the law as some
kind of moral standard of righteousness. That's how you live
your life. You would have been the person if you
was a brother or a sister own a plantation, Sidney,
you would have been a brother like, no, don't y'all
leave mail.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
You know the rule masters say you can't get off
that plantation.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Yeah, me, don't.

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
Don't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Don't get off the plantation, because you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Know that's the way when over there reading the old
master over here reading everybody, don't follow the law, Sydney.
The law in America is not the ultimate standard of
morality in our world, and it really shouldn't be in
any black person's world in America. If you are of
a descendant of slaves and you follow the loss, that's

(01:09:27):
your fucking moral compass. You are a lost negro. I'm
gonna tell you the truth. I never said this in
my life. If you are a descendant of a slave
and you follow the loss of America as some kind
of moral standard, you are a lost negro. Now, Sidney,
if you're a white woman, I understand you might be

(01:09:50):
a white woman and I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
You're like, why are they just breaking the law?

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Well, Sydney, if you're a white woman, your accessors always
broke the law to progress that standard.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
Break up law. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
I'm telling you, Sidney, that's the thing. The law is
not the altar. I don't think the law is better
than the streets at all. I don't think. I don't
think nothing about the law is better. In the legal
standard in America, the moral authority is forgive me for

(01:10:36):
being corny, treating others how you want to be treated,
or God's word. I'm black ass f from Louisiana. So
if you're black from Louisiana, then why are you talking
to me about what the white man law say to you?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Treating others how.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
You want to be treated?

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
So guess what I don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
It might take me to fuck somebody up for them
to understand and stop playing with me. If somebody owe
me some money, I want my money, Sidney, and I
might have to kick their ass and get my money.
Or you shouldn't kick their ass. What are you talking about?
What you think people shooting about? You think people really
shooting over street signs and bandannas like you a.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
Sister president, President Dan Town, So.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Why are you talking about two people shooting at each other?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
If two people want to shoot at each other, I'm
sure they got a reason to shoot at each other.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Mind your damn business.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
It don't destroy the community, It destroy the people shooting
at each other until they break a law outside of
the rules. That's the street. Your president is on the
same type of time. Shout out to my niece who
just said the same thing. The president is the biggest gangster.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
The president want though, No, No, Then.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
We make up our own laws because the laws for
America don't work for us.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
That's why, Dan, that's what an outlaw is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Then it's outside of the law, out law, outside law,
out law. But I definitely dam don't want no white
man making no rules for me because we see all
that worked out for the last four hundred years. So
other brothers make the law. That's what happened. We come
to an agreement in the law. It's just crazy, man.

(01:12:24):
You try to make sense to people, and this is
what I'm saying here, this is what I'm saying. Like
you're trying to educate somebody and they feel like they
know something because they look at YouTube videos or listen
to the goddamn rap songs.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Who's some American negro news? Is that one of the
guys from uh that's why that's Tommy rob Okay, got
you got you, got you? Yeah? I see, Like I
just did to know if he was with Digital soapbox
from because he kept promoting and stuff. I don't know
who everybody is that works behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
So again, it's one of the those things that come
to how people fight. Yes, shootouts can jeopardize public safety. Yes,
that can happen. Yes, Yes, that can happen. That's happened.
McDonald's jeopardized public safety. That's just kind of the life

(01:13:19):
we live. That's just this life. I feel bad. If
you go to jail for it, you go to jail
for it. That's the point. You break the law, you
go to jail for it. That's how it works. Yes,
shootouts can jeopardize public safety. And if you shoot somebody innocent,
your ass going to jail. If you shoot somebody in
the life, you going to jail.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
That's the point.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
But you gotta stop having these conversations and bad faith,
and you gotta stop talking to silly rhetorics like it's
silly rhetorics.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
It's silly, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Like I'm sick and tired of y'all just fucking sellouts. Bro,
What the fuck is wrong with y'all. Yes, that's the rules.
If you break the rules, your ass can go to jail. Yeah,
they got a place for you. They got a place

(01:14:12):
for you.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
But Danna shout out to Tank. They ain't gonna talk
about that. You ain't talking about get rid of it that
you ain't said. The police is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Oh my god, they're a threat to the community.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Police officers jeopardize public safety on a daily basis.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
They speeding through intersections.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Chasing people because they didn't pull over for a damn ticket.
They can hit people in another thousand that's life. I'm
not making none of it right, and I'm just telling
you that's what comes would happen when you live the motherfucker.
We don't have a culture, then we don't have a culture. No,
it won't save our goddamn it. I don't even know
what our culture is because I know we ain't talking

(01:14:52):
about black culture. But no, snitcher will not save anything.
Snitching is raggedy and it's unmasculine. You know what'll save
the culture. Get your ass away from shit, Get your
ass out the kitchen. If you don't like the fire,
if you are not meant for it, get out of there.
Snitching know, make everything better. People not gonna stop committing
crimes down They commit crimes because they fucking poor, So

(01:15:15):
how the hell is telling go save anything? Like, y'all
gotta stop with these two dollar antidotes. God damn at
least get fired dollar anidotes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Shit.

Speaker 6 (01:15:34):
Controller?

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
What the hell.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
We ain't got a culture, then y'all don't have a culture.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
I have to yell at y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Share it because y'all, y'all are y'all are the disingenuous
and bad faith conversations we are having. It's either from
ignorance or the or the audacity to come.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
And troll the low, Like why would you try to
troll the loaw? What do you think you're doing?

Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
Troll the lope? That's what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
That's the new thing, has to troll the low.

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
That's the new hasstame for today.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
So again it's just this one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
I'm saying, Pete, no snitching has never been acceptable. It's
not even a little bit more acceptable. Shout out to Todd.
He yelling because he emotional. You can't be that way
if you need to be, No, Todd, we're not debating Todd.
You're having a conversation in bad faith. You're hiding your face,

(01:16:32):
you're using a burner account. You're here we're not even
not your name. We don't even know who you are.
You're not even in position to have a debate. You're
not even honest enough to be who you are. Nobody
knows you the you. I think, yes, because that's how
we first met. So you're you're naturally todd. You're naturally

(01:16:54):
not You're naturally not even starting a conversation in good
faith or even debating. Don't challenge what I say. Stop
challenging what I say. There's no reason for you to
just challenge what I say. Why is that? Why would
you challenge what I say?

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
You answer me because I'm saying I'm striking a nerve. No,
you're not.

Speaker 6 (01:17:17):
You're not saying nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Though you're not saying nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
I'm being a real man by genuinely taking in the conversation.
I could just not talk to you because I know
your conversation is not being honest. I'm giving you what
you're asking for, because this is the reason why you
want to be here. You came to hear us talk,
and we're having an honest conversation everybody in good faith,
even Pete, all of us. But you're having it in

(01:17:40):
bad faith. You're just here to cause a level of
chaos and have things that don't agree don't there's no
need to argue. Sometimes people just argue for the sake
of arguing.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
Yeah, let's get back to the relationship, though, man, what's
your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (01:17:55):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
I mean, I just find it weird and everybody see
its pointing to a civil suit. They feel like, if
he nails the criminal part of it, you know what
I'm saying. If he nails the criminal part of it,
then the civil part is easy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
Yeah, you are the badd.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
You are well, you know here.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
You know who he is, though, I mean, so he
can't be like he's not blind of his identity, at
least to you conversational. I mean, you know who he is.
I don't know who he is, but you know he is.
I don't know who he is, you said, Todd, that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
He told me. His name is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Oh, you don't have a pictures he's usually thought.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
I thought that you knew who he was in reference,
like from outside of the ecosystem.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
No, I don't know him at all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Well, if I don't even real life, i'd have been
kicked the ship out of him for saying some dumbs.
You can't this, I don't got homeboys like that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:53):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Like if my homies use a burner counts we not
even homies.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
First thing I met Kay, I was like, you should
stop using a burner account. When we first start talking,
I'm like, man, you should just be you. It's way better.
I don't got no burner accounts, bro, Like I'm all
the time.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
No, I thought it was Kendrick.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
Confusion.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
You're confusing with me saying you you're doing it's not emotional,
like when you spank your son. It's not being emotional.
You just need to be the shit kicked out of you,
so you could be a man, So you could log
in with your real name and your picture, and you
could be proud of your thoughts happening. You feel me,
So I respect your trolling attempts, but I'm telling you
the problem is I would kick the ship out of
you because that would help you in life. Right now,

(01:19:40):
you're not like a full out man, like you're hiding
behind a character. No, no, Dan, it's not an opinion,
it's a fact. This is the one thing y'all also
can't do. Y'all can't confuse me. Y'all can't confuse.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
I know who I am.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
I know what I'm doing, and I know what I'm saying,
and I backed it up with the work.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
What y'all saying is out of total silliness. I'm not
in for that. You not a man, Todd.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
You using a burner account? Who uses a burner account?
I put my picture When you look at my picture
on Instagram, Todd, look it's me right here, right now,
my picture t is right there, all my following me.
I don't have a take, Todder, I don't have it.
If you using a burner account, you kind of like
not a man? Well, no, Todd. The truth is I

(01:20:30):
can just ignore you and then you just be nothing.
Then you just going to the space where nobody paying
you attention. Me talking to you is the greatest thing
I could do as a man. It's acknowledging your thoughts
and giving it credence.

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
What was Tom's first argument Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
First day time came to the lunch table. He was
talking about you don't smoke.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
In his name Hard And I'm like, Ship, you must
know this guy, like no outside of like in real
life or something.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
And that's true.

Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
He drink, he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
That's a that's a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
That's why he even broke Why would you bring up
a criminal case in a civil case, like I'm telling him,
I didn't read the stink case. I never read the case.
I don't know the case. But he said, you brought
up to you and g case when I read all
lady one pain? Why how that even compared it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Know what it is like?

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
It was a case and the way he described it,
it was like and I didn't know what he was
referring to. And because there's a few sentences a paragraph,
it was saying like fifty said some guy Hama shot
him and then Hama got shot and if you not
even not even the police knew who he was. So

(01:21:50):
there wasn't a case of that. And I'm long and
some guy got shot over the song.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Man, I'm not none of that ship. I'm not doing none.

Speaker 6 (01:21:59):
Of that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
That's it ain't even a real comparative thing. That's that's why,
you know, because it's part of the parliament. You know,
they call a group of owls a parliament.

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
Oh, it's a very humorous because owls have that distinguished
kind of you know. Yeah, the fowls cartoons are always
old and smart.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Yeah, because it's part of the Parliament. And this is
why it's ridiculous. It's silly. It's like, why would you
even compare them two cases? And he really offended that
I don't know fifty CA's. I don't know fifty cakes because.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
I never think it was a case. I think he
was just talking.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
About I'm telling you, I don't know none of it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
That's what I was trying to get to the bottom of.
It didn't sound like it was a case. It was
just like him saying some like airing out some ship
on the track.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
And then the guy, I'm not even gonna argue about that, Bro,
that is not even close to it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
Which is a lot different than putting your hand on
the Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yeah again, I'm not even talking about Listen, if you
tell the police that I shot somebody, even if they
never bring you in the court, you're still a rat.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
You hand your bile. But like again, I'm a studio
microphone and a recording or a notepad or I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Not even gonna honor the genuous thoughts to that. That's
just ridiculous, that's just stupid. Yeah, I'm not some of
this stuff we gotta get past, Like I can't have
these conversations at level one. Bro, peat you here because
you are street urban savy enough to have these conversations.
You're you're you're a brilliant and very knowledgeable person to
make stream America. But you are more than than streets

(01:23:35):
savvy enough to understand what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying. And this is the like like I'm saying
to Todd of anybody else, Like this is me in
real life all the time, Like there's no emotions to nothing.
I've really Once I leave this thing, we're gonna get
on TikTok. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get on. I'm
gonna TikTok. Yeah, no TikTok a lot of there because

(01:23:57):
I was gonna tell you it's gonna try that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
We're gonna get a do a lot of you feel
me and do the space.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
But again it comes into a thing where it's like
he wants me to talk about some ship.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
I don't know, why do you keep trying to venture
onto platforms. I don't have a profile on it. I
know that we're shutting it down. I'm like, I'm gonna
go get a TikTok down, shut it down.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
In sixteen hours.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Shout out to Ayo and this is really the truth.
I appreciate the fact that g Malone is even engaging.
It shows his character as a man, stand up. And
the crazy part is instead of him appreciating the fact
that I am acknowledging the silly things he's said, he's like, well,
you know you paying attention or you being them up? Like, bro,
why are we having this level one come That's like
if you tell me you know you guys are killing

(01:24:45):
over colors, I'm going to get offended.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
I think I think this kind of comes back to
that whole concept like this is this opaque, gray area
of dry snitching, which is just talking about anything at
any time in any context, versus like actual you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Tell him to come to adle. It's true, get down
old clubhouse. Everybody can hear your voice, all debates, discussions,
pull out.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Again again again that that's where you need to be.
But again Todd, it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Masculinity is is this is what I love about the
streets And shout out to Dan because then I get
what you're saying, Dan, But let me tell you something
that's really important and what I've been able to disciminate
when it comes to the street urban culture right and
shout out to Sherry because she gives me hell for
this all the time. I think my, uh my TikTok
is glasses look Sherry, No, that's it, I think so.

(01:25:44):
But Revenge, you got to subscribe to the d I'm
gonna send your link Revenge on Twitter so you can
subscribe to the ad. But this is what I love
about the streets, And this is why I get it.
I get why people feel how they feel when I
talk about the streets because I talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
And it's very.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Almost like people would think I have like this different affinity.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
For it, right, is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
I understand it in a way that a lot of
people don't understand it. I understand the primitive attempt at
masculinity that's happening. So when you see somebody in the shootout,
you're like, oh, you know, they're dangerous to the community.
I don't see it like that. I see it like
two men hashing out their issues the best that they can.

(01:26:33):
That's how I see it. You feel me, I see
it that way. That's how I see it. When you
see a bunch of gangs and you're like, oh, look
at those guys, they're getting together because they live on
you know, they wear the same color.

Speaker 6 (01:26:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
It's like I see a bunch of poor people coming
together to make something of their lives as best as
they can. That's what I see when y'all used to
see hip hop as like, oh look at they're just
thinking other people's music and the usually simpler and it's
not real music. I saw it as a bunch of
poor people taking art and not having programs in school,

(01:27:08):
and yet figuring out how to put ideas together to
make their own song. The only POV that this podcast
is about is hip hop. It's street urban culture. I
don't Pete is mainstream with he can give you a
mainstream I can't give you a mainstream take.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
I'm not mainstream. I'm just not hip hop. I'm like
eccentrically aloof.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
I actually agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
That's probably true.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
So what y'all don't like what y'all have to say
about the streets, I don't feel that way. And yes,
I know I could die, but I also understand what's happening.
Like I know why people are killing and dying in
these streets. It's not just because it's a color mandana
sway more to it than that. Shout out to V Glasses,
real question, how do you let the streets? But regret

(01:27:59):
selling dope, that was the best part. You know what's funny,
v Bro. I'm gonna leave that up there, because dope
is the only thing I felt that people were really
a victim of. Like in the perfect world, people would

(01:28:23):
be accountable, they would understand their own addiction and make
choices based off of what they want. Well again, because
I don't drink, I don't smoke, you know what I'm saying.
I didn't understand addiction. Growing up, I didn't understand addiction.

Speaker 6 (01:28:36):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
I never drank a cup of coffee.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
I was in the studio with he forty. He been
trying to give me to drink wine since I met him,
miss Been. You know, we was on tour fifteen years ago.
He's trying to give me to drink wine, like I
never I don't understand addiction.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
What kind of wine does he forty drinking?

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
All kind of shit?

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
Shit?

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
He drank Carlo Rossi all the way, the thousand dollars bottles.

Speaker 6 (01:28:59):
Too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Yeah, doing and everybody said it's really good. But selling
dope was the one thing that I didn't quite understand,
and I realized people couldn't control theyselves, you know what
I mean. It's not like snitching, Like it's different, you know.
I mean, a snitch is somebody who just don't want
to be accountable. Somebody on drugs bro is like they
can't control theyselves. It's a chemical control, you know what

(01:29:22):
I'm saying. And I didn't understand that because I never smoked,
I never drank, I never did drugs. I never even
drank coffee bro. I don't know addiction. So when I
realized how strong addiction was, I realized that when I
made a sell to a lady, she came and bought
two sticks, and she was pregnant, and I knew that
no sane woman would actually something else has to be

(01:29:44):
wrong if you're a pregnant woman and you're gonna jeopardize
your kids, your unborn kids. I realized at that point, like,
oh yeah, this person don't have control. So I regret
being ignorant in that space. Gang banging is something I
never regreted, ever felt that way, because I understand to
exist in this space, sometimes you do have to let

(01:30:05):
people know, hey, I'm not playing with you. Gang banging
on me, and you snatch old lady persons. Gang banging
is not this level of unrighteousness in the culture space itself.
Now to the law, they like, oh you know what,
those guys shot each other, Well, I shot that nigga
because them niggas jumped on my brother and damn they're
killed me. That's why I shot that nigga, and I'll
shoot that nigga. Ask again. And I don't believe in

(01:30:27):
your system or your government to do nothing right. That's
why I don't feel bad about gang banging. Every part
of the thing I did in gang banging I decided
was the right thing to do. Nobody told me that
you have to do this. They're explain to me why
it made sense, and then I challenged them and got
what I needed to make sure I can make it
make sense. So again, I don't have that feeling you

(01:30:49):
feel me towards towards gang banging, because gang bang ain't
about snatching persons. Gang bang ain't about breaking into people's
houses and stealing their stuff. You know what I'm saying,
it's all of the above. You know what I'm saying.
I didn't that's not gang banging. Gang banging is what
how you carry yourself as somebody from this community, how
you live your life, everything. But yeah, I regret selling,

(01:31:12):
don't That was like, I really regret that more than
anything in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Shout out to Sydney Fairfield. We are the benefit of
street urban culture. According to GM, besides being snitched on,
what is street urban culture done that's hurt you or
black folks in mass sincere? Street urban culture don't hurt nobody.
How can a culture hurt anybody? A culture is about
making do It's about a movement of people agreeing that
this is how we gonna do our thing. Like the

(01:31:41):
fact that somebody could say, hey, slang is bad because
you don't know how to speak proper English. That's because
the educational systems is bad.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
It's necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Some people could say soul food is bad because it
can give you high blood pressure. Well that's all these
people had to eat, so that's what they eat. That's
why it makes sense. How could you be How could
you be conn deming to culture? That's just silly. How
could I be condemned to street urban culture? How could
I look at anything in hip hop and be upset
with if this is how people were making their lives work.

(01:32:13):
Gang banging has nothing like killing people has none to
do with gang banging. People kill each other, they not
from gangs.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Countries kill each other, religious kill each other people. That's
just a human thing. So no, I don't see anything
that's bad in street urban culture for the for Black America,
I don't. It's only bad when you start acting like
you one of these niggas. That's the bad part. The
bad part is when you don't have to be one
of these niggas and you bring your ass down here,

(01:32:40):
you start acting like one of these niggas.

Speaker 6 (01:32:43):
That is that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
So that that that, that's the thing that woul hurt
Black America. Shout out to Queen Lady act TV, So
do you think the new generation should join gangs? You
don't really join a gang, though, Brandy, like you don't
really join the gang.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Go ahead, Pete, we.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
Pull that back up there again, Queen Lady Activity. Yeah,
is that your rolls? Rice?

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
That's a nice car, fucking Pete.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
No, No, I want to.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
Answer, is that is that your rolls? Rice?

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Oh? I betting the under yees you ask you?

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
So what I'm saying, though, is I don't you don't
join the gang like this is This is the craziest
part that nobody's ever really expressed to you. Right, I
want to know why in real gang banging you don't
join the gang. You already from the community. You already
from the community. If you asking me, should you go

(01:33:42):
out and commit crime that depends on you and your life?
Long as you okay with being accountable for said crimes,
That's what I'll tell you. Long as you okay with
possibly going to prison. Long is you okay with possibly
going to jail?

Speaker 6 (01:33:57):
Don't do it? In saying him, did it? Don't do that?
Right there? Better do it and stand on it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Is it a form of snitching to take your picture
in front of someone else's car?

Speaker 6 (01:34:18):
That is called aggravated Captain.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
I'm glad you said that. Revenge. I'm gonna get to that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Shout out to Sydney Fairfield soul full correlates the bad health.
The fact that you just miss what I said and
you said it correlates to bad health.

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
Crazy Like it's.

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
Gotta stop, you gotta start paying you gotta look at
the frame, the colors in the picture.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
Every you gotta like you gotta listen, listen. I don't
think so.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
I don't think again, when slaves had a choice, I
don't think they chose the foot of the pig versus
the chop. I don't think they chose the tale of
the cow right over the steak. I think they made
the best.

Speaker 7 (01:35:18):
Because Moses, That's what's crazy most, because I'm like, why
are we having this?

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
What's happening?

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
Teacher?

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Okay, I got you, Sidney. They were slaves, Sydney. They
were slaves. It's not about unintended consequences. Happened.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
They didn't have a choice.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
It was the tale of the cow or death or starvation,
ain't she Louisiana?

Speaker 6 (01:35:59):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
What she asked me? What she said? How is it bad?

Speaker 6 (01:36:03):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
This is this is why I'm saying, Pete, I'm putting
two different things.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Together, right, she said, specifically, let me get to it,
she said, uh, she said, is there anything bad about
we hear the benefits of street urban culture? According to
Glasses Malone, besides being snitched on, who has street urban
culture done? That's what that street urban culture done? That's

(01:36:27):
hurt you or black folks in mass sincerity? If you
say soul food hurts black people. You're missing what I
am saying. You're facing starving or soul food.

Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
Made it happen. We make males out of the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
How can I How can I look at that as bad?
If you get one extra day to live, pete.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
What you gotta drink piss? But you get one extra
day to live.

Speaker 6 (01:37:00):
Drinking pists?

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
No, I understand that. I think what she's is the
difference between cause and perpetuation. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Yeah, But that that's ridiculous because because then you would
have to understand what's making it happen. Right, So soul
food is not how people eat every day because you
know why. Soul food is fucking expensive today. So you're
not getting no fucking ox.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
Blame with perpetuation.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
But you're associating blame with perpetuation. I'm necessarily the same.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
I'm not associating blame with perpetuation. What I'm saying to
you is this is specific right. She's saying specifically about
street airmen culture, and I'm expressing it. She says, soul
food correlates to bad health. They got an extra day
to live. Culture is a what's the what's the what's
the what's the mother in law and mention pete.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
Necessity? Is it a necessity in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Yes, And for people that's not, that's the problem. That's
what we're talking about now, right. So what I'm saying is,
if you live in a very nice condition and you
eat soul food every day with your money, you are
the problem. But you cannot blame that on slaves. Get it,

(01:38:19):
You cannot blame that on slaves.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
No one's blaming that on the slis.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
So then how could you blame street poor people on
wealthy people emulating poor people. This is the reason street
culture exists is because again it's like slave culture. It's
what people had to work with, so they made it work.
But if you don't have to make this work, you're

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considered opposer, which is why we're saying certain people are
not a part of the culture. So, no, it wouldn't
be bad. Now, if you're a black man that grew
up in Beverly Hills and you're gonna spend your money
eating soul food, you're a fucking idiot. But if you
want to blame slaves for your eating soul food, you're
also unaccountable.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
No, I don't please.

Speaker 4 (01:39:07):
That's that's fair. But like soul food nowadays is expensive.
It's it's not the cheapest food you can get your
hands on.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
That's what So again, I just said it. If you
grew up in Beverly Hills with the privilege of money
and you're eating soul food, imagine me saying, well, you
know what them damn slaves. Now this motherfucker eating soul
food every day. Fucking slaves, that fucking slave culture. That's
you get what I'm saying. Like, that's how it is
to be blaming street urban culture specifically, like right Street

(01:39:38):
Armond culture is the fact that Street Amend Culture organization
is saying crypts how does crypt play into regular America?

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
They don't.

Speaker 4 (01:39:46):
It's like lung It's like lung cancer. The smoke gave
you the lung cancer, but the lung cancer kills you
because if you didn't get the lung cancer, the smoke
wouldn't kill you, but the lung cancer didn show up
on its own.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
But you're saying this, but I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Let's say you live next to a fucking factory where
they make tobacco every day and you can't move nowhere
else and they burn it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
My point, that's what I'm saying, the smoke. So then
asking me the smoke symbolically, but.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Again so asking me comparing to somebody who smokes cigarettes
versus somebody who live next.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
Time, I'm saying smoke cigarettes, I'm saying smoke just smoke.
But I'm saying you're a smoker smoking generally smoke.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
Right, I'm saying specifically, Pete, if you live next to
a tobacco factory where they burn tobacco every day, it's
like saying you're this is how okay, Pete.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm not saying you're the smoker. I'm just
saying smoke exposure to tissue. It wasn't discriminating on the
kind of smoke, just any kind of smoke, environmental smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
You love, street urban culture.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
I'm asking are there unintended consequences, whether for you or
for or others.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
This isn't about soul fool.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
I use that because GM used that as an analogy,
because that's an analogy. Soul food is slave culture. That
I'm giving you a cultural reflection. Street urban culture is
no different than slave culture. Is necessity becomes the mother
of invention. That's why culture exists because it's needed. It's
not like somebody in the middle of Soritos is making

(01:41:22):
this ship up.

Speaker 6 (01:41:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
It ain't like somebody had a bunch of money decided.
You know what I'm a sample to tell, I'm gonna
take these greens. I'm not gonna spending I'm gonna take
these greens and cook this shit for seven hours to
make it tender. This is what you have to do.
This is all you had. This is culture in general.
Slave and street urban culture are the same cultures. They're
not that far, they're not that so.

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
So I think what she's saying is the fact of
what we did with this she urban culture was though
we made something, we made something into being cool man,
everybody want to be a part of it. Though after that,
you know what I'm saying, because because when the first
started it off thing, everybody ain't want to be a
part of hip hop until it became the cool thing
to be. You know what I'm saying, Like, everybody ain't

(01:42:10):
want to eat I ain't want to eat soul fool
until until it became the cool thing. That what I'm saying,
people figured out how good it was. You know what
I'm saying, so many people say I want to do that.
It's like, right there, you know what I'm saying. Even
even within the consequences of having to, of having to
get high blood puns like that, they still want to.

Speaker 6 (01:42:25):
They still themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Your stupid ass blaming people. Your stupid ass blaming people
because your jackass is not the equivalent. You cannot if
people in Beverly Hills, if you black and Beverly Hills
and you didn't come from this lifestyle and you just
eating soul food every day, you want me to blame slaves.

Speaker 6 (01:42:47):
That's what we're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
No, No, that's that's what she's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
I'm telling you, So, then how don't you get this
same comparative If you're from this part where this has
to this has to happen for you to stay alive.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
This is the standard.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
I think that's priced end of the question.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
But I'm giving you a like comparison.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
So again, if other people outside of this place start
to emulate, it's not the slave's fault.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
I think what she's saying. And again, if I could
get a yay or an a on this interpretation, like
I think she's saying, the culture in general as a
broad bouquet of features has some positive ones and some
negative ones to throw out. That's what I think she's asking.

(01:43:43):
Do you perceive there to be any negative ones at all?
And can you throw out the baby without the bath
water or vice? However that expression is the baby in
the bathwater expression.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
What's the negative thing?

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
At least negative thing?

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
Could she at least for the sake of it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
What's negative thing? What's one negative thing about urban culture?

Speaker 6 (01:44:03):
Not?

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
What's one negative thing?

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
Depends on how you want to find it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
I suppose give me something that's tell me something that's
negative about street urban culture. What's negative about culture in general?

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Is it something?

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
It depends on Yeah, I didn't agree with her or not.
It depends on a desired outcome.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
But again, imagine saying that that's the that's the lay
of the land, right, So again, what are we really saying?
Okay for I lose shout out to l Janelle. She
made a point say you're blending people here. Yes, there
are some people born in the streets that use the
culture to survive that was then romanticized and it was
being commercialized.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Now people got stuck there. No, they didn't l Janelle.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
So again you gotta blame mainstream America for commercial life
to make money. It has nothing to do with the
culture yourself. The culture is just telling the story because
some white people sawed it to you and you looked
up to it. It's not the people's fault that's going
through the situation that made it happen.

Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
There's a here's a here's a I'll take it into
a less personal space, broader white culture as it is defined,
at least colloquially on this particular show. You could say,
on the positive, it is incredibly hyper productive. On the negative,
it is exploitative. That seems at least reasonable to do

(01:45:38):
it in seventeen words or however many words it was.
Is there a similar attribution to this case. No, so
it's all just perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
What do you mean? Listen?

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Life is life?

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
You're saying? Is something negative?

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
Is it something?

Speaker 6 (01:45:55):
You know? What it is?

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Bro here is simply put, it's like somebody that's sick, right,
they have a virus, some kind of new virus, and
people are ignoring they have a virus, but they're sick,
and they keep sneezing, they cover their mouth, but they

(01:46:17):
cannot get it to stop sneaking. Everybody's telling that person
the problem is this person's sneezing versus the greater society
not coming in to deal with the sickness. Does that
make sense?

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
Yeah, I think it's back of person. But the illustration
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Well, it just depends on how you see street urban culture.
If you see street urban culture as some kind of hey,
you know what, they're just doing this to be cool,
versus this is a bunch of poor people trying to
make their circumstances count feel me, then you don't get it.
And again, this is where being inside of the car
looks different from the outside of the car. Right from
the outside looking at it's like, well, anybody could do

(01:46:58):
better from inside of the cars. This is how you
do better. So again I get what you're saying, Pete.
And I get what she's saying because she said it
right now, she said the comparison don't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
I get it. I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:47:12):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
People don't have choices. I grew up middle class. I
have more choice in life than young where Bootie w
I'm from. That's the point, and that's why you think
the same way, Pete. It's not about from the inside.
It's different from the inside. It's different, and I'm not
really being like critiguing of your thought. It's different shout

(01:47:39):
out to shout out to revenge, because this is something
I really got on cuz about. He said, there's no
accountability in that though, and that's my problem. They know
they can get sick. Lauren Hell and Kendrick told us
they're both wrong, and I told him that he was wrong.
It's up to society to help humans. It's up to humanity.
So if you let a group of people fucking just
be poor, then don't figure out to make the circumstances. Okay,

(01:48:01):
if society cared about humanity, if humanity was humane, and
they went out and said let me help you, like
when Drill happened, if we said, hey, let's go in
here and figure out what's wrong, then you don't get
the Drill movement. But if you sit your ass back
and you let a culture continuously develop, you may not
like the results and it may infect other people in

(01:48:22):
the world. But again, it's society's fault, Pete. It's society's fault.
It's society's fault, so you have to So when she's
saying to me, it's street urban culture negative. What's a
negative thing in street urban culture? I'm asking somebody to
tell me. You can't say violence is some kind of
that's normal. That's in fucking middle class, wealthy, poor, every landscape.

(01:48:44):
Tell me something negative. The fact they'll speak great English,
it's slang.

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
Is that negative?

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
Wherein they had to the back is that negative? Taking
Dickie's work pants and putting a crease in them, that's negative?
What's negative about it? What's negative?

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
How does it value education? How does it value big
picture thinking? How does it value financial responsibility and decision
making in that area? How does it value reproductive responsibility?
All these various things. And you're gonna turn around and
you're gonna say, oh, these are all products of the
culture inherited and just put a hat on sideways.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Yes, because you need to share the fucking money. You
gotta share the fucking money. If the schools is shitting
in sixty people, and what what the fucking I supposed
to do? God damn, it's a simple answer. You just
gotta care about somebody but your fucking self.

Speaker 6 (01:49:32):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
It's really simple.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
This should be crazy, pete, But that's that's the point
of I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Write, it's simple, give money.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
Money is not the answer. Period. Money is not the
answer period.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
That's for money, Pete.

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
You didn't live with you. That's a lie.

Speaker 6 (01:49:53):
People.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
If you family live where I live, you before I'm from,
and that none your mom and dad could do.

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
It wouldn't be not thing your mom and dad could do.
You'll be from the set period.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
You be walking down the street every there, somebody whooping
your motherfucking ass and we have to help you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
So money matter because it puts you where you was at.
It mattered.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
It's a simple solution. You don't make a bunch of
motherfucker's worth for free and don't pay them, and then
you don't fuck him up over after that. It's simple.
Accountability is simple. That's what I like about the streets. Accountability.
It's consistent. If you don't take your kids, you shame, Pete.
You shamed, even though you ain't got no money to
take care of your kids, you shame. If you tell

(01:50:36):
on another man because you did a cry.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
You shame.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
I'm not disagreeing with that, Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
Is not about agree to disagreeing. What I'm telling you
is you can't blame the culture.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
For the result.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
I'm not blaming question. That's not what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
If you're saying, how do you value at how the
fuck did you value education when there is none?

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
How y'ad la today a la?

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
It was like if I take you to where we're
from right now, Pete, it ain't how it was, guess,
but there's a different opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Where I'm from, it was like that. It's like that, Pete,
share the fucking money, pay with you. Fucking Oh, it's simple,
put into it. Stop letting other human beings do horrible
while you do incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
It's dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
It's a simple solution.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
And if you not deal with the fucking consequences, your
fucking kid may be fucking catching some.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
Of the shit. But guess what this is how people
are making it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
So when Sydney is saying to me, hey, you know,
you know she want to look down on poor black
people because she's a middle class or suburban black person,
that's the problem. Because poor people in every every walk
of life do the same thing, Pete. It don't matter
if they poor white, poor brown, poor red, poor yellow,
poor black.

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
Same shit, same shit. Dog same shit.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
So when people want me to look at street right,
because back, what's bad about it?

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
How could you value it? How the fuck you even
gonna get some money? Prime glasses low?

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
How are you gonna get some money? How the fuck
you gonna get some money, Pete? How how you gonna
get some money? How you gonna find my mom valued education?
You know what she did. She got me to the
closest school that AP classes. My mom also is a
registered nurse. She also was a registered nurse. She also
had a massive nurse because my dad paid for somebody
else invested in her changed her life. My mom wouldn't

(01:52:34):
let me go to Compton or Domingus because they didn't
have AP classes.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
Pete, they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
Have AP classes. I couldn't go to school with every
nigger I grew up with because they don't have AP
classes and their education curriculum is fucked up. Compton and
di Mingus, all that shit fucked up. So my mom
made me go to Paramount because they had AP classes.
She nurtured what was happening in my mind. But look
what she had to do. She had to inconvince herself
at a job. A thousand things. I had to start

(01:52:59):
catch in the bus and make it really hard to
pursue a fucking education as a kid when I can't
just walk down the street to the school and go
to a ap class.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
That's the problem, Pete.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
It's simple.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
So when I see a middle class sister or a
middle class woman saying to me, well, what's the negatives there?
What's the negative of fucking suburban and wealth black people?
What are you doing? What are you fucking doing? What
are you doing for people? When I look at you, man,
and I look at these fucking white people doing, what
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Why is that? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
This is no fucking argument.

Speaker 6 (01:53:43):
Ell.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
The fact that this is an argument is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
The fact that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
Y'all feel like this this I'm debating, y'all, and this
is a talk show and this is a podcast and I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
Here, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
The fact that y'all don't see that everything that I'll
be saying it's genuine. I'm not fucking around. It's crazy
to me. This ain't no debate. This is human shit,
And y'all want to kick down on poor black people.
And that's y'all salution, y'all fucking horrible. That shit crazy,
y'all I'm not these niggas. I'm not acting, I'm not
at them, I'm not none of these niggas. I'm not

(01:54:19):
fucking up here talking trying to be trying to say
something fucking solations. You know how bad I could talk
about these bitch ass niggas every day and couldn't no
nigga do nothing except get fucked over by me. You
know how many these rapper niggas I can talk about
like a dog and ain't nothing they could do. I
can't go on any fucking platform in the war, and
I'm with all that shit them niggas with and I

(01:54:39):
say whatever about all of them, and everybody know it
ain't nothing nobody could do. So when I try to
have these intelligent conversations on this motherfucking place and it's real,
and I'm thinking we're connecting that something level of heart,
and y'all fucking chest tising me talking shit because y'all
chest ties me talking shit like y'all don't get a

(01:55:00):
simple human thing, or you or you thinking the ignorance
you say, oh, you know, street, urban colored, what are
you talking about. There's a bunch of poor ass.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
People life fucked up, whose schools.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Got seventy people in one classroom. They bad, ain't no
fucking jobs, ain't nothing right here, ain't nobody gave them shit.
They started from negative thirty, And you want me to
figure out some blame for them.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
No, the blame is on you.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
If your kid a piece of shit, is you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
It's yes, those one chances where your kid is born
a sociopath. But everything else is on you. It's on
society the way this shit is. If you let people
do this bad, they gonna do what they gotta do
to be okay.

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
It's simple. Stop putting seventy people in the classroom.

Speaker 6 (01:55:43):
Pete.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
You could value education?

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
How the fuck you gonna get education when this lady
gotta teach seventy people? How he?

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
How?

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
How could you value education?

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
How could how could I have possibly been economically savvy?
How I don't even know fucking economics. How I didn't
grow up with a bunch of money. My mom was
in prison when I was thirteen. She went to the
fans trying to get some money.

Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
That's my whole point. This this is again, it's it's
morphs into a somehow, this assessment of personal blame. That's
not at all what I'm saying. What I'm ultimately saying
is the most impactful legacy of slavery and Jim Crow

(01:56:35):
is a lot of the paradigms that it established. That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
And you know what hasn't happened. There hasn't been no
adjustments to fix it. There've been bare minimum. And then
the things that have happened have been inclusive to anybody
and everybody. Right, so they do the affirmative action, but
it's for everybody. Anybody can get it, everybody except a
freaking white men unless they gave because they same with

(01:57:06):
d I same ship. If you don't make a true
effort to fucking be accountable, if you don't fucking do
the right things, then guess what it's not going to
fix and you cannot fix it yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:57:21):
Shout out to Sydney Fairfield.

Speaker 2 (01:57:23):
If you slow down your tellers of pit falls, su
know when I'm telling you the pitfalls of you, I'm
telling you the pitfalls you a pete of everybody else
who's doing well in this country, who came in situations
they were doing well to judge poor people.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
I'm not judging what I'm saying, Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
You know what I'm saying, not you, not Pete, Peter Pete.
Huh oh oh oh.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
I got you, I got you the broader peak.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
Yeah not not not cool Pete Pete's got you. So
again I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
Though, who she says suc at the end of Pitfalls.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Urban Coaching, I'm not telling you the pitfalls street couture.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
I'm telling you the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Like what the screwed up click click is in here?
Screwed up click and pitfall.

Speaker 4 (01:58:18):
D screw slowed down.

Speaker 6 (01:58:19):
But I mean, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Christ, you can't be that man. No, no, So what
I'm saying is, I'm not telling you, Sydney the pitfalls.

Speaker 1 (01:58:29):
To street urban coaching.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
I'm telling you the pit falls to when humanity is
a piece of ship that don't want to do right
and you keep bagging like, well, y'all just figure it out,
figure it out. No.

Speaker 6 (01:58:45):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
In in general, like the paper I was gonna write,
has to deal with the fact that the conditions because
you barricade people out of the economy, you now reassess
their values minus economic outcome. That's a value, right, So
you look at say like again and I'm not Jewish,
but when I'm great, like grading social cultural paradigms, they're

(01:59:08):
like the gold standard, Like they're very long term, low
risk outcome oriented to the point that it's part of
their religion to circumcise because I think back in the
day that started because there was like infections and stuff
in the early pre you know, cleaning type of environment
several thousand years ago. Sure, so when you take that

(01:59:28):
component out and you don't have economic outcomes and various
like self driven outcomes as part of your social cultural paradigm,
and then that becomes a personal identity in a matter
that grows through generations. Now you find yourself in an
environment where you do have that, but the culture has
been created without it. So therefore there's a collision in

(01:59:52):
priorities and in outcomes that was you know, from its
advent of that time. That's largely the point I'm getting at.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
Thanks, I'll get you.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
So let's talk about since you talk about the gold standard,
let's talk about the gold standard, because the gold standard
was pretty much US in the teen's twenty thirties and forties.
What happened in nineteen fifty two was West Germany paid
eight hundred and forty five million to Israel and claims
conference over twelve years.

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
Hardship Fund.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
In twenty twenty three, Germany agreed to extend the Hardship
Fund through twenty twenty seven. The fund provides one time
payments to eligible Holocaust survivors. Restitution of looted objects. Germany
has returned thousands of looted art objects, books, and other
items to survivors their heirs.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
Compensation for stolen property.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
German has compensated form owners and heirs for property stolen
during the Holocaust.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
Contribution to survivor funds.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
Germany has contributed to funds for survivors and their pensions.
That's just what Germany did. So the gold standard was
helped by society.

Speaker 4 (02:00:57):
Yeah, but they were wealthy before that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
No, a few of them were worthy before that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:03):
A few of.

Speaker 4 (02:01:04):
Them are wealthier than the average.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
A few of them were wealthy before that, just like
a few of us are wealthy before this.

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
A few of us are wealthy before this.

Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
But their community got themselves out of this thing that
actually was made for them, the ghetto. That was a
term for them, kind of slur right, a slur right.
They got themselves out of the ghetto because of that.

Speaker 4 (02:01:27):
I don't think that was even the slaries, so those
what they called the.

Speaker 6 (02:01:31):
Physical established area. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
So again, maybe if maybe, if people was like, hey here,
that would happen for us, because we do got some
rich brothers, extremely rich brothers. It's just as a community,
everybody not rich, we don't have it. So again us
we keep looking like there's nobody who did this on

(02:01:57):
their own. There's nobodybody who did this on their own.
You cannot do this on your own. This is what
I love about the streets that I do not like
about mainstream America. Accountability. The streets force you to be accountability.
The streets force you to be accountable. The streets they

(02:02:22):
force you if you say some shit, you know what,
you look at a Karen. You know, you know what
a Karen is, right, Karen is not a Pete. Karen's
a Karen. A Karen to call you a bitch, not
your name and expect you not to do nothing cause
she like, I shouldn't be haveing to be accountable for
the things coming out of my mouth.

Speaker 6 (02:02:39):
Pete.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
You know, if I take you to one hundred and
seventy te we go to the pj's, you call somebody.

Speaker 1 (02:02:43):
A bitch, Pete.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
You know what's gonna happen. We're finna be fighting like
a motherfucker with these motherfuckers. Yes, I will trade mine.
I will not trade my existence for a mainstream existence ever,
because my existence created me to respect men and be
accountable and be a man. I'm not even blaming people now.

(02:03:05):
Were just in the conversation where people want me to
condemn a way that people is getting by when really
they just on their own, when they have been damaged
for years and years and years and years and years.

Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
And years and years and years and years and years.

Speaker 3 (02:03:18):
Right now, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
You got to go to a even if you go
to a native ghetto, it's on a plantation where everybody
gets a check.

Speaker 4 (02:03:30):
Oh like oh oh the yeah yeah. Plantations. Yes, and
they have the lowest outcome metrics of anybody in the.

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
US, probably better than ours.

Speaker 4 (02:03:45):
No, they're actually lower. They are the lowest. They're just
such a small percentage that they show talks about.

Speaker 3 (02:03:53):
So again it's just another thing.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
Shout out to Sydney, she said, sincere question number three,
how did the streets hold you accountable for slanging your
pregnant lady irrespective to her internal struggles. No, that's not
the thing right. So now my life right spiritually has
been compromised. It was a long time so when I
first made money, I was depressed. One thing that y'all
didn't realize about me in two thousand and five, six,

(02:04:18):
seven eight. I was depressed from that existence because I
didn't know. I didn't realize it until I figured it out.
So the street didn't hold me accountable. I held myself accountable.
You gotta hold yourself out.

Speaker 5 (02:04:33):
Not really gonna know what I'm saying, because when you
gotta when you gotta do what you gotta do to survive.
Though what accountability hold it too? Now, do what you
gotta do survive. That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:04:46):
But even in that I didn't even know that she
wasn't making a choice.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
How could you?

Speaker 3 (02:04:52):
You ignorant?

Speaker 2 (02:04:53):
So people can teach you. Some people can say, hey,
you know what somebody could teach you about? Uh uh,
somebody could teach you a about addiction.

Speaker 3 (02:05:03):
I wasn't ever taught about addiction.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
I was never I thought people came and made quality
decisions based off of the things that they want. I
thought people and I prided myself and having the highest
quality version of it, something that wasn't compromised to any degree.
So I thought everybody was making a choice. No different
than going to McDonald's.

Speaker 6 (02:05:24):
Mm hm. But again about addiction.

Speaker 3 (02:05:29):
Now here is the time to be accountable.

Speaker 2 (02:05:37):
I get you, so shut out the city, she said,
But is there something in the streets for collective accountability? Yes,
Glasses saying to all this homeboys that listen and never sell.
These people don't have control of themselves, right, they don't
have control. So Glasses is the change I want to
see in information When it comes to addiction. A lot

(02:06:00):
of the people that hustle are addicted to different things.
Everybody is, and the weed, addicted to liquor, people dealing.
You gotta realize people in these circumstances are dealing with this.
Very few are like me where they're dealing with its sober,
and there's people who did way more shit than me.
It's people that did way more shit than me. You

(02:06:21):
feel me, So it's different, and they trying to.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
Cope with it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
So they doing drugs, They hustling. They doing drugs too,
They smoking weed, they getting high, they popping pills, they
drinking every night, trying to run away from life.

Speaker 5 (02:06:35):
Ain't no difference between working at McDonald's and serving a
big mac to a fat person. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:06:42):
You know, so when you're saying that the collective, the
collective is glasses saying that, hey, you know what, Hey,
bro y'all need to understand addiction. This lady can't make
a conscious choice. I didn't know nobody said that to me,
And how could a bunch of other niggas who addicted
the ship say that to me. My older hommy probably
wouldn't have sold to nobody, but we never had that conversation.

(02:07:03):
I never asked you, may why you just sell that
to that lady. I never asked him that he just like,
get up out of here. I didn't pay attention to
why I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:07:11):
I wasn't present for the thought. I wasn't present for
the thought. But again I realize it. And then now
God started to hold me accountable spiritually to know better,
and I started passing information to my homeboys. I regret
a lot of stuff. I sold drugs to my homeboys parents.
But again, you don't know. And when I knew, I

(02:07:32):
did better. Everybody does the same thing in the hood
unless they are a part of the same issue that
they dealing with.

Speaker 3 (02:07:39):
Some of these people are just as addicted as a.

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
Dog dealer, not as a doe feenan, not even just
to get money, but to being on drugs.

Speaker 6 (02:07:51):
You could pig to the hustle on too, man.

Speaker 2 (02:07:54):
I'm sure, but I'm saying also wrongies be addicted to.

Speaker 6 (02:07:58):
That's a fact. That's a fact, like you not making.

Speaker 2 (02:08:01):
Very few people make it out this thing without losing
some of their soul, Like I'm lucky to get out
of his life with my soul. Like I came out
this motherfucker with my whole soul, and it was fractured
before I got out. No, I didn't know not to
serve my friend's parents. I thought they that's like me
at a store and I was selling them fucking soda. No,

(02:08:22):
I didn't know that. I didn't look at it like that.
I thought it was people just buying drugs just because
that's what they want to do. They want to have
fun and get high. I never got high, so I
don't know what getting high is. I know how to
sell will get you high. But when I learned, I
did better, and that's why I say I regretted it.
That's why I speak on it. Hell, no, I didn't know.
You don't know, y'all keep not. This is what I

(02:08:43):
was just saying to Pete. Where do you learning shit at?
Where you think you learned this shit at? Who tells
you this? Who tells you this? Who's the person to say, hey,
this is what you you know? Hey, don't sell to
your friend's parents. Who tells you that? I mean, who's
supposed to tell you this? Who's supposed to How could

(02:09:05):
you learn about finances? How is how is a financial
planning even a thing? You don't even have finances in
the community. How how do you know that? No, you
can't tell yourself that. Well, how you don't know?

Speaker 4 (02:09:27):
How?

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
You don't know?

Speaker 2 (02:09:30):
So again, that's the thing. This ain't that type of stream.
I'm not that type of podcaster. There is no conscious
you're conscious. And this is my point. Mike is like, no'
I gotta understand what conscience is. Of course, you could
need people to teach you morality. What do you mean
morality is all subjective? Is all subjective? So how could

(02:09:58):
you not need people to teach you morality?

Speaker 3 (02:10:00):
That's crazy?

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
You know, there are whole communities in this world that
the whole goal is to just impregnate they sister. That's
how they live. I was watching it on TV the
other day. They had a whole.

Speaker 3 (02:10:12):
Place where they just impregnated the sisters. That's their thing.

Speaker 2 (02:10:16):
They just sleep with family members and they just all springs.
That's the standard of life. So how is that morally wrong?

Speaker 4 (02:10:24):
I remember the first time I went to uh, you know, Magic,
the fashion convention thing in Vegas went. I went through sourcing,
which is basically just a lot of representatives from third
world sweatshops. Just to be frank, and I didn't know
dick about Bangladesh, but one of the guys there on
the place in Bangladesh said he can get anything done
for like the cheapest shit in the world. It's got

(02:10:45):
a quarter of a billion people. It's like an emerging
economy like Bangled. I never get a second thought. So
st looking at Bangladesh. All they do with there's rape.
Everything I found in Bangladesh had to do with rape.

Speaker 1 (02:10:58):
I don't see like it in my life.

Speaker 4 (02:11:00):
And if they're youtubes used to be up on or
YouTube used to be up on there, I don't think
it's still There's twelve years ago where they just had
like five guys like sitting on a wall the city, like,
what's your opinion?

Speaker 1 (02:11:10):
Right?

Speaker 6 (02:11:10):
Oh? Way through it?

Speaker 4 (02:11:10):
From time to time, you know, if someone walks by,
I'm like, watch if someone walks by. That was like
their standard.

Speaker 3 (02:11:16):
So again, exactly it goes.

Speaker 2 (02:11:19):
But that was that was the time. That was a
normal thing for most humans. But you're conscious. Even to
say you're conscious, it's not something naturally you have. If
you grow up in a society where people killing each
other and that standard, you'll be killing each other.

Speaker 5 (02:11:32):
If you're a human raised about Wilkes would eventually think
you're a whip though too not to.

Speaker 3 (02:11:38):
Stop believing some of these innate things.

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
It's not as innate as you think, he said, So
you believe it good and evil. You know what's funny, Mike,
guess I'm gonna tell you one last story then we
could get up out of herecause we've been here two goddamn loan.
My perspective of Satan is really unique, right, and I'm
gonna tell you how I see it. It's based off
of me reading the Bible and years and years and
spirituality and dealing with it. I look at the relationship

(02:12:03):
with God, Satan and Jesus as a father and sons.

Speaker 3 (02:12:11):
Father and sons, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (02:12:14):
Satan is God's oldest son, the angels, Right, that's his
first set of siblings right outside of man. This is
his first set of siblings, right, that he poured.

Speaker 3 (02:12:24):
Into and then you have Jesus. Right, that's the next
set of siblings.

Speaker 1 (02:12:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:12:30):
Satan seemed like he was so envious of jesus relationship
with God. He was so envious of it that he
spends his whole time trying to prove to God, why
do you favor humanity instead of angels. I'm going to
spend the rest of my existence showing you that they
ain't shit.

Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
That's how Satan lives the existence.

Speaker 2 (02:12:55):
I'm going to spend the rest of my life showing
you humanity ain't shit. So when you ask me how
do I feel about good evil? Imagine you seeing that.
Imagine you imagine that's how you see the world. So
when you're asking me what's good and evil? No I don't,

(02:13:17):
we probably won't have the same idea. Shout out to
Sean Caesar. So shootouts in the streets is acceptable for
serving your man's parents, dope, It's where you draw the line. Yes,
because if I'm shooting at somebody that got a bullet coming,
that don't got reason with nothing. I did it because
he deserves it and he needed to happen to him.

(02:13:38):
And he's thinking the same thing. But selling somebody who
can't control their addiction product and they're somebody that I
loved parents, which means in neately I should love them.
That's where I draw the line. Yeah, that's why I
draw the line. Shout out to legs. I sold to

(02:14:00):
someone's parent, not my people.

Speaker 6 (02:14:06):
Wo.

Speaker 3 (02:14:07):
It wasn't my homie parent, but it was somebody mom
and dad.

Speaker 6 (02:14:10):
I don't know what it was. Oh man.

Speaker 2 (02:14:17):
If it's about what people deserve, do the neighbors deserve
to be on the block with shootings? What do you
say when the police do the same thing. Do you
deserve to be on the block with shootings? What if
somebody broke into their house? Do they deserve to be
in the block with shooting. Do they deserve to be
on the black and shooting? Somebody running their backyard and
try to break in their house.

Speaker 3 (02:14:37):
And they shoot. Do they deserve to.

Speaker 2 (02:14:38):
What are you talking about? What's happening? Shootings are going
to happen. It happens some neighborhoods.

Speaker 6 (02:14:49):
You knowing that shit about that at all? Been around
here long enough.

Speaker 2 (02:14:54):
No, I've never tasted alcohol never.

Speaker 1 (02:14:58):
That's the.

Speaker 2 (02:15:01):
All right, I'm gonna take it out, squiz. All right, Look,
we're gonna bust out, man.

Speaker 5 (02:15:05):
Get them on some dawn one day, shot the dog,
one day.

Speaker 6 (02:15:08):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:15:08):
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Speaker 3 (02:15:38):
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pete hometown it's not a same that.

Speaker 4 (02:16:00):
Huh, what time is that?

Speaker 3 (02:16:02):
Ten in the morning?

Speaker 6 (02:16:05):
All right, gonna be up.

Speaker 2 (02:16:07):
You know it's tomorrow. We were saying that name. We
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I am not saying you should let your Mexican friends
use the N word, but I'm saying I explained to
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we're gonna We're gonna pick up on it too.

Speaker 1 (02:16:33):
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