Conversation On Drug Dealers & Addicts

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No
Sealer's podcast with your host. Now fuck that with your
load glasses alone? He said, what up, King, what's happening?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm killing bro.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'm trying to maintain your man's over here on the
East Coast cause of the havoc, man causing havoc.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm finna get on this Northwest with this dude over
here talking about tricking. That's an embarrassment to the West Coast.
You can't be tricking.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Won't do no tricking. Don't do no tricking.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Man, Man, how are you?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
We don't do no tricking? And King is trick capital
trick out.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Don't hold up buying my time back cars?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hold on, hold up, glasses, can you give me a favorite?
Man introduced me to this gentleman and the white the
white hat. Waight there, man, because this is you know,
I have a problem. Hold on, I have a problem
when they're legends and I don't I'm not all knowing
like that man, So it's probably.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Shure.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
So first ballot Hall of Famer out the streets, true
hip hop connoisseur and product of it put on and
and and and. Inspired by the original Curtis blow By,
big Onie, Kiki Loco, the low manc Bro. That's my gummy,
That's that's Let from Queens. That's my man, Trap from Queens.

(01:30):
Trap just trap young though he Yeah, you're younger than me,
k so I can finally say that now it feels
good to say somebody younger to you and p already
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I mentioned the studio one time.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
What's crazy is trapped is the youngest person with no
sagas the youngest person sing.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
What up?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
So crip harder lex. They did that, so that was
just the new thing that they just felt like.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Good work, good work.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Three forty three Yep, I'm the young.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
He was that old Saian yet three damn.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
So the reason I assembled this council, right, and it's
people that I respect their opinions.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
There's no shenanigans here.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I was looking at this interview with LaToya Jackson one
time off the Night Machine from the King. I was
looking at this interview with LaToya Jackson, and I don't
know if you guys remember, but LaToya Jackson in real
time accused Michael Jackson of that you know.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Horrible act.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yah And she did an interview with Barbara Walters where
she recandidate recently. Yes, and she said the guy she
was dating, which was this wealthy I think he was
a Jewish man. He was putting pressure and gave her
the script, and you know, she said he had a
big problem and she was just listening to her husband,

(02:58):
which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Because you don't list your husband and go against your brother.
That's great, they'll do it though. They'll do that definitely.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Johnna and Penis relationship are really unique.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
But that's not the thing.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
The thing that kind of caught me off guard is
when Barbara Walters asked her did she feel Michael Jackson
had any responsibility in his death? Because LaToya Jackson feels
like Michael Jackson was murdered, and she said, did he
feel like he had? She asked LaToya did she feel

(03:32):
like Mike had any responsibility in his own death? And
she said no, because people shouldn't have been given him drugs.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
And I think.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Over the last like probably ten to fifteen wheears at
YEP were Mac Miller different people where something happened, something
happened to where now the dealer is more at fault
than the person doing the drug.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
That's been like that for decades. That's why you get
a bunch of years for selling somebody something and you
get rehabbing a pad on the back if you get.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Cough smoking something, does that seem fair?

Speaker 4 (04:14):
No, it's bullshit and they get stupid.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Okay, Pepe first, Pete, I mean you gotta look at
it podcasts over, you gotta look at it towards the
the using that the user and the supplier like that,
you know what I'm saying, And like you kind of

(04:39):
you're kind of fixing on on somebody's addiction or something
like that, so they can look at it. So, h
how do you get it? Do by the suppler supplying
them with it, know what I'm saying, by choice?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
So the supplier hangs out in the bushes and low
dark and pops out.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's why I always that's that's why I always say.
I always say it's a difference between being a pusher
and a hustler. You know what I'm saying. A pusher
gonna push the gonna push something on you. You know
what I'm saying. Hustle a gonna just let you know
that you got it. You know you could you can
get it from the low you know what I'm saying
like that. Here's my take. Here's my take on this.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
The issue started happening when the drugs that was in
the black neighborhood is when the white people start coming
there to get them. You know, when that happened, they
had to start taking us out of there, the drug
you know, the ones that's selling the drugs, because now
that other community is now partaking in these drugs going

(05:37):
to the black community to get them.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
So they felt they take the drug dealer out the equation.
Then what's what's so crazy is this story? Right? Like
that was the way it went back in the eighties
and nineties and stuff like that. Nowadays, these drugs, these
kids are on now, the people on nowadays. It started
in the white neighborhood first and came out of the
white neighborhood to the black neighborhood. So like that, you

(06:00):
know what I'm saying, all them pills and all that ship,
all them pills and everything that ship was that was
that wasn't. That wasn't what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Our lives, all our lives, y'all, y'all missed that nugget
that Pete just dropped, which one. That's how would always
been what's that.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
You should go back further. I mean things don't import
into that community first.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
So that's not usually that that that's not typically the
flow chart.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I get what you're saying. Like sometimes I realized, like
with PCP, like I was looking up when PCP was
an actual man, it was a medicine, and then the
recipe just happened to get outside in the streets. I
still I would love to do a document I would
love to do a documentary lex about the true origin

(06:57):
of crack mm hmm. Like I feel like we have
a very still general idea that probably should be more
fine tuned than it is. Like it's very general, like
I think it's somewhere from north north Califa, California, northern California,
and but it still feels so vague and brothers ain't

(07:18):
necessarily chemists. So I would love to find out exactly
the true origin of crack, Like that would be a
fire documentary to run down the true origin of where
crack came from.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I don't think it's it's not like that complicated, like
to me taking cocaine and turning into crack, It's not
like you just trip and fall and land and it
becomes cracked because you dropped it on the floor. But
if you look at like turning suda fed into meth
or making PCP, those are far more complex.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Sure, I don't know, I don't know. Because you do
that shit the wrong way, you gonna lose it. You're
gonna lose some shit. What were you you he's gonna
you're gonna lose. You're gonna lose that problem. Put that wrong,
I mean that shop that don't come back right. That's but.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
The piece point. If you cook pc P wrong, you're
gonna lose your life and everybody there.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
And and it's hard look at just look at the
ingredients side and the other ones.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
And drops and all, like I know exactly what it
taken a friend of mine. That's how baby pet dog died.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Kiki m you know what I mean, called then and
it sucked him up. He took some he took some
bad stuff. It wasn't properly, no.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
He was They was doing the show.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Call it the show.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
When you make pc P, they call it the show,
or they call it doing the burn. And it's funny
right next because it's all this smoke and there's no fire.
That's how reactive the chemicals are. And if you do,
if you introduce certain parts of it to just you know,

(09:06):
atmosphere moisture, it'll create a gas that will kill everybody,
could create an explosion. It's blue houses up in real time.
I don't know if he remember this. It happened to
the front hoods, you know what I mean. It was
like a big thing. So and one of my best friends.
This is Kendrick's first cousin. That's how my boy died,
you know what I mean, That's how he really died.

(09:26):
He died.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
So just in the process of cooking it, yeah, preparing it,
they can go wrong and kill.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It killed like four people.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Moisture any moisture, tear it up like like real PCP,
like real shirm is so strong you can't light it
with fire.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
You have to use another cigarette, use lit cigarette and
then you cigarette call lighter or car lighter too, call lighter.
That's what I've seen people. You It was like, wait,
so you can't put a flame through it up your
face flashback on, Well, how the fuck do you know
this stuff trapped? How do you know this wasn't over

(10:13):
here like that? Telling all this stuff on itself.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
No, So I was I was stripping off that, and
I was like, it's it's to a place now where
it's so bad, bro, where it's like damn, like they
are making the actual person that's addicted to that drug
like a victim. And I always thought drug transaction was
a victimless crime. That's like right, like like prostitution, Like

(10:49):
buying prostitutes is a victim of crime.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
Two decisions to people making decisions, I can't go with
them that because there's knowing just knowing, like like I
got people that you know what I'm saying, and they
and they members is part of the fellowship and ship,
you know what I'm saying, being an attic disease.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
You know what I'm saying that they can't really like
it's like being a deal. You're kind of kind of
feeding on the disease right there, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I mean, Okay, you contract.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Here's a question.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Let's say a really let's say you own a McDonald's
franchise and queens and a really fat person pulls up
to the McDonald's and they want to order ten cheeseburgers,
seven fries, six drinks, five nuggets, four apple pies, three Sundays,
and they like, it's for me a diet coke, right,

(11:41):
knowing that they could actually that they could give them
that heart attack. At that point, it should you be
charged if that person hasn't heart attack because you kind
of catered to it.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Glasses don't have to cut you off.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
You have to be.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
They do, that's the fact. But they can sell you.
The first was drink that night.

Speaker 9 (12:01):
Yes, and when they think that you you two faded,
they'll cut you off.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Somebody. Somebody once sued McDonald's for that for that right there.
They won. They won, Yeah, they won.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
They need to be a class action lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Be great.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
They won for saying McDonald got their fat.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
McDonald's want to come off the salads.

Speaker 10 (12:31):
That's why they came. Nick Sands an old school hustle myself.
I always took pride in having the best quality. I
thought that the best quality also made the job easier
and faster. The only ones who would get upset were
the competing, competing and hustles. You know what I mean
that you know I was done. I mean I remember

(12:53):
I don't want to go into too many details, but
I remember going heavy and being being done and weekend,
you know what I mean something that you know I
would never get off that quick where I'm from, So I.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Mean I'm the same way. Yeah, I don't want the home.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
When my homies were starting to cut, PCP would break
fluid and all these cheap cuts, like I never wanted
to cut my shit, Like I always prided myself in that.
And it's funny because as I've grown up right and
got older, being blessed to make it to I'll be
forty six, and you know, in a week or two,
that's the only thing I don't regret being a game member.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I regret selling drugs. And the only reason I regret selling.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Drugs is I realized if you really love somebody, you
gotta protect them from themselves.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's kind of my problem.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
It's like, but I don't know if we can hold
the world to that same standard, you know what I mean?
Like I think I could hold myself because I felt it.
I felt it on my own.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
But responsibility is a bilateral commitment. M It's not to
say the one doesn't cancel out the other, but it's
not only on the one.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
Right by getting the dealer though, don't you think they
make it that way.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
That's the that's the objective. Yeah, but also look at this,
it's also political. For every one dealer, there's five to
ten users, so it's always easier to demonize the smaller
number and victimize the larger number.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
That's strategic. That's and that's true beyond crime, beyond anything.
Make the big bank the bad guy, and everybody below
him is the victim because it's one entity. And then
you tell a million people it's not their fault. Everyone
loves you.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, that's crazy. But I saw that they arrested mc miller,
the dude that sold mcmiller drugs, and I was like, he.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
At though.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Drug though it's like still a yeah, but he had
like boys like he had on in the coat.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
He said, I mean, that's what they cut me with
My sisters.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
My sister's neighbor, her daughter, when her daughter was her
first year. It was the first yet they might have
seen the article. It was the first year going to
duke and she had she had she had bought some
drugs from the dude, from the dude she was checking
out with some boy, bought some bought some bought the
drugs from some dude. They she hit She hit the
coke one time, and they got the whole ship recorded.

(15:32):
It's on video. Hit the coke one time, passed out,
They dragged it back up in the room. You know
what I'm saying. She ended up dying. They ended up
locking the do They lot the dude up. They locked
the dude up. Who sold in the drugs. You know
what I'm saying. Everything was on recorded because it was
on the campus when when this happened and all that,
and they lot the do it. I think they do
it up. beIN like they got like ten years or
something like that for.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
The dude showed the work for mc miller got seventeen years.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, yep, right, yeah it was.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
It's like I never done any of these drugs, but
like I'm gonna offered every drug on earth a thousand times,
like any anything pressed or powdered. I'm just like, it's
too easy to step on this ship. I don't know
your hand. I don't care what you told me it is.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I don't know they putting fettie on the weed.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Man, she was waking up there. I'll be saying these
kids nowadays, man, Yeah, good sir, because nowadays playing Western Roulette.
Man trying to get trying to play around with drugs
like Western Roulette. Right now, these kids, man, wait, wait,
wait can you can You don't have the same effect.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Oh yeah, if you breathe it in, it's gonna take
touched your skin.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
No, I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I
don't believe that it's that bad.

Speaker 11 (16:47):
It's not letting d know. It's not strange trip video,
all right, take you out. You can't let touch your
skins series. The body camera videos videos or fake huh.
The body camera videos.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Are actual human beings testing it. Six is real.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, yeah, you can't feel smoke can kill you. So
what did we say?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Is that a residue thousand being digestive smoking.

Speaker 9 (17:22):
It has to be like a small small dose of smoking.
Do It's gotta be super small for you to not
die from it.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
That's why white people step on it with meth.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
I was at the grocery store a.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Cool step, like it's a cold step glasses.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
This is a funny story. I'm at this nice boutique
grocery store about parent's house in Credit Dumore, and and
I'm trying to get a nice coffee at night for
the next morning. Some guy walks up and he looked
kind of funny, and he's like, hey, man, what's like
the strongest coffee that you have that they have here,
like the strongest. And I look at him like there's

(17:59):
some odd I mean it's coffee. And I look him
up and down like, oh, I know what the fuck
he wants. I go, oh no, no, no, I said, those
those pre workout, those big cans, those power fucking c force,
and that's go get that, get that, and then get
that because I know exactly what he wanted. He needed
something super strong case it came.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Up, Yeah, exactly, pick them up some more coffee that phenol.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I mean, it ain't gonna you better know, even when
they give it to you at the hospital, like they
give it to you and micro in the small as dose.
I remember being so scared I had surgery on my leg.
When I had surgery not that long ago, two years,
man's like, yeah, we're gonna give you a little fit
and I'm like, no, trap, I was so scared. I'm
like no, They're like.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
No, we know.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I didn't know. No, I don't know. Nurse get it wrong.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
And when she was in the hospital, Nick you and
Nick she was Preemi. They gave her find off so
that was like they was like, yeah, they gonna give her.
Fan All I was been like saying, where you are
g Like what you mean, fin.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
You need to tide the law threes?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Or what's in the middle? I mean, what's in the
middle all the time?

Speaker 2 (19:08):
All three? What's in the middle? A trap?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Is that bad bro?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I will pro four hundred puts me to sleep? Oh
sing like that, Yeah, you ain't got in tolerance. But
but but they they they they saying that like all
that you can't touch it and all that like that.
That's not like, that's not They're making it seem like
like that to that point to make sure people understand

(19:34):
that it could possibly kill you. You know what I'm saying.
But it ain't like I'm not I'm not seeing people
smoking that ship man, you know what I'm saying. And
me right there and you know what I'm saying, like
that sh is it's wild. It's a wild drop. But
I think what it is though, what it is tu
though is its a lot of this that people be
thinking this fan thol, that shit comes from China, that

(19:55):
sh ain't even fin though it should be some whole
other ship. The niggas agree with you.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
Might be some the stuff, but the spoken that are
usually not smoking pure fitting all.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I agree with you, they're not smoking pure fitting all. Yeah,
I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
At that trap are the most like sliding scale, you know,
exposure of like drugs, you know what I mean, Like
like opiate based drugs are the most like like the
novice gets you know whatever. And you have people who
are who like addicts that could just just pound it
and it doesn't all right.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
So I try to opiate, like because the pain that
they gave me when I came home, they gave me
some opiates and I took that ship one day and
I couldn't feel nothing. I said, no, I never I
just do with the pain. I just deal with the pain.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
This is just too much.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
And it gets you and it gets you like this
to real quick.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Get you right. So, I mean, if you could have
this type of you know what I'm saying, if you
can have this type of account on ability out a dealer,
and how don't you have this type of accountability with
these companies letting this ship get out their back door?

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Man?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yo, you ever watched the documentary they got that's what's
the name of that company? Man, Damn man, it's a
big company, man. And they it's the dude who made
the who made the oxy contans, the dude who made
the oxy conans. Bro. They got like a whole they got.
It's a dope documentary. Be it's like a biopick up. Yeah,
it's called Purdue. Purdue Actually was it called pur Do?
I think that's what it might be called that that's

(21:28):
that chicken place, right? No, No, it's so they make
the they make the westerning too, they made they made
the oxy Conans. And the way they did it though,
it was just wicked because it was like they they
was telling them. They got through by saying it wasn't
gonna be addictive, and they had the ft the f
DC like that claim that it wasn't addiction. It was

(21:49):
you can't get addicted to it. This that this. Meanwhile,
they knew in their mind that it was going to
be the crazy addicted drug though, and they was gonna
you know what I'm saying, And they was passing it through.
They was passing it through you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,
FDA FDA DA.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, because I wonder if I had that job, would
I'll be just letting shit go through so I could
buy a boat this year I take the drug, you
know what I mean. I'm just you know, trying to
let the people that need to I can imagine like
the type of way you rationalize it to your own
mind when you let these type of things happen. Right,

(22:26):
you know, just a boat. I just need to vote
for it. You know, we need to pull the second mortgage.
My kid needs to go to college, right, and you like,
you know this, this this oxy came you know, yeah,
I saw the you know what, it'll help some people
get rich.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, yeah, that was what you That's a real question though.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Like if you're providing something that for every one hundred
and ninety nine are helped in a hundred or hurt,
where's the line where that's an acceptable ratio versus not,
Because when you scale it out to a population of
a third of a billion people, now those that one
percent becomes very large.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, it was wicked what they was going on. Man,
I always see it. I say, we gonna know what
really happened thirty forty years from now. You know what
I'm saying, like the same way we ended up finding
out about the Nicaragua thing, how they were bringing the
drugs and giving it to the people all like that,
the real story gonna come out that dy, you know
what I'm saying that. You know, they knew what was

(23:25):
going on in the whole town. They knew what was
going on. They knew the effect that it was having
on the people. But they came up or they benefited
off of it. They made a lot of money. Do
you think it goes with Lee? It's all the same things. Listen,
that's all the same sop it and they and they
used it and the buffer. What they did within that though, Man,

(23:48):
was just crazy how they how they made it like
like the whole story with the activist thing. You know
what I'm saying, Like activists was was making a whole
bunch of money on it. And the rappers started talking about
it crazy and stuff like that, and they felt like, Yo,
we got a bad name on it. So we're not
gonna We're gonna We're gonna still distribute these pills right here,
but we're not gonna distribute the court serve no more.

(24:09):
After I made a gang roll of money off the
ship though already on the right, you know what I mean.
So it's just it's crazy with the lamp.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
And I don't know if the CEO of that company
was necessarily a DJ screw fan or not. It took
a while to hear the remixes.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
And once future of them started saying and all that
right there.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
But at which place are you responsible for society? Like
is it McDonald's at this point?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Like you know what?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Fuck it? You know?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
And when is it? Like what?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
That's why I get mad. I cannot sell out like that.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I'll see what you said.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
When is it when somebody abuses something that you just
put out there.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
That you have to pay for it?

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Yeah, I like you had you're putting it out there
with but there are a all that it is and
you're saying, probably like the Surgeon General warning you put
it out there, and if they still take it and still,
how are you responsible to their decisions?

Speaker 4 (25:10):
And and and it's the same question if McDonald's disappeared tomorrow,
the people gonna become fitness things. No they're not. They're
just gonna eat the next fat thing.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
That's true.

Speaker 9 (25:20):
Like somebody, yeah, somebody going yeah, somebody by, so somebody
gonna sell it?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Would you say a key, I was saying, I would
like the opportunity to talk to somebody that want to
sold me something, to see their accountability.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
To sold you. Somebody sold you some ship.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
That's not even fair though I just did that. I
feel like that though, Key, like that ship makes me
feel like ship. It don't matter that you asked to
buy it from me. It makes me feel like ship.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
You could have fucked some people lives up to the
point where.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I used to sell Kiki sharm.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Oh, that's what he was saying, like that, but.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Wow, this is but No, I was young and dumb,
you know. I didn't like I don't get me wrong,
I was educated, but like it felt normal in this environment.
I didn't and I didn't know no other environment. Sometimes
I look at myself like a piece of shit, not

(26:33):
just for something that happened with kicking, because I didn't
even look at Shtern bad though, you know what I mean.
I didn't look at sharp as bad. Like I sold
some of my best friend's mother crack and I didn't
think about it like that's what was happening. You know,
I'm like, I'm selling it in my mind, I had
convinced myself that I was a businessman. I'm selling a product.

(26:54):
People want to buy the product, and I prided myself
on having the best product, and I didn't really have
to trip like if somebody Mom, like you know, they
was gonna buy I used to have that mentality trap
they gonna buy it from somebody?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Mind will be.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
So like like I love Kiki, bro, Like Kiki is
like Mom like my mother's brother to a degree, you
know what I mean? He know my mom likes somebody
who I've always respected my whole life growing up, your
trail blazerd and this thing that we call West Coast
hip hop. And it's like I would have never been
able to separate this as something being bad. It took

(27:34):
years of me maturing to be like, maamn, if you
love somebody, why would you selling PCP. And it's like
when my mind I used to think to myself like, well,
you know they gonna get it from somebody, Well I
should have let him get it from somebody that's not me,
you know what I mean. And then I'm selling somebody
else mom PCP or somebody else you know older hommy PCP.
And you steal a piece of shit, because then you
know that somebody else older hommy. That's why I always say, like,

(27:58):
the one thing I regret about all the street life
is selling drugs. Like that's the one thing I don't
you know, gang bag and you know, shooting a nigga
fighting nigga, that's cool because you had to come in,
But selling drugs is probably like the scummiest thing I
ever did.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I swore to God. And you think if you think
if a person at an opportunity to do something else,
they wouldn't do it. If you get chos like all right, bro,
you could you could work. You could do this job
right here and get paid the same amount of money
that you get paid for selling these drugs right there,
which you think, I think a person whin I think
we're choosing to do it though a lot of people

(28:34):
will take a second choice.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Everybody, if not for if not for the risk component alone.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
That way, because bust drug users bad things or they
do bad things because of the drugs.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Do you feel that way because of that?

Speaker 5 (28:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Kiki is fine, Bro, Kiki mind's work. I mean if
it affected Kiki, I would have never knew you know
what I mean? So it's not like this, like I'm
looking at a long and lasting effect, Like I don't
know he would know before I would know.

Speaker 7 (29:01):
You know what, may's selling drugs bad to you if
it's not because it harms people, it.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do in that moment, you know what I mean? Like man,
I used to carry keky home, you know what I mean?
Like that's how much he was my nigga. Like that's
how much I looked up to him, like I could
sell him some water for me. He just got this,
you know, big information's good news, and he comeing to
celebrate with mommies and like that's how I was, Like
I swear to God on On Olivia Bro, I didn't carry

(29:29):
kiky home, you know what I mean? Because it's fucking
keky loak, Like it's like, nah this you know what
I mean? It's nigga know my mother, Like he means something.
So then I think now, and I think I start
thinking that this at thirty six, Like damn, if a
nigga mean something to me, why would I be selling
them something? Even if I knew he didn't, he wasn't
thinking clearly right because again, we all come from these

(29:50):
backgrounds and you know niggas party out of the party.
But it's like I should have knew better, you know
what I mean? And I feel like that, So like
that's that's you know, this conversation. I'm mad that he's
here because I had this conversation set with Pete this
morning and I had no idea this motherfucker was.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
Gonna be it.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
So now that makes me feel like blame this ship.
I feel like a piece of ship nowhere probably pressed
you like it?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
He for he for sure ship? Yeah, low cut back.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
It's it's like that's God for you, though, bro Lex,
that's God for you. Because I hit Pete with this
ship early this morning. I was like, people, we need
to do a poe for tomorrow. Feel me, I got
this idea. I was looking at this latoy when I
set it to him and everything, and I'm like, now
we're talking about it, and he just fucking reminded me,

(30:49):
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Lex, Like, God, damn it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
This is a horrible time to have this conversation because
now it's like accountability in front of strangers and ship
who ain't been around to know that version of me.
So now that version of me becomes real versus you know,
It's one thing when we talk about how we live
and then we talk about it in the pasting. It's
another thing when it's in your face and then you're reminded,
like damn, man, Like I remember sucking up like you

(31:14):
know what I mean, and him bringing it up, him
saying that, like I wondered. You know, it's like God,
damn what I mean make you feel like shit?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
So that's something real shit for your eyes, bro, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Man, that's God for you. Like, yeah, you thought you
felt something, now your asshole, you know what I mean?
Bringing somebody right here that you used to sell drugs too.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
You know what I mean? So BEAUTI for day trap,
beautiful trap.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
You know what I find while I remember the first
time I found out my homeboy was selling to my
best friend. My god, I would with a whole family.
I wrote some dishonorable ship for him. You know what
I'm saying, because I love him that much. Man.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
He saved my life several times.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
And.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I found out he told me, like, yo, you know
one of our other homeboys. Now this is my mind.
You I'm in Howard Now I'm away from the game.
I'm done right, he says, yeah, yeah, you know what
the name mom was doing this and doing that, And
so as I was doing that, I said, Yo, do
you know better?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
That was the code was no pregnant woman, no family,
no more in the poor year of spared and the
fuck all that? Fuck that and what did you say?
You didn't get it from somewhere else anyway. That's exactly
what he told me, man, And I was very depressed
about that, bro. But what I had nothing to offer him?

(32:39):
Their tangers, like your tanger, your path. So it's just
like you just have to eat that one. I always
we occasionally. I think we talked about it about five
years ago. This is twenty something years ago. But I
think we are the cause of the destructive destruction of
our neighborhoods. When it first entered the world room rules,

(33:00):
there were rules, there was a moral code. But somehow
I don't know. That's what I don't understand how we
lost that.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
It just became every man for themselves. Honestly, Bro, I
don't even fuck how much of us coming back. I
remember selling PCP to a pregnant woman, and I remember
just thinking like, what the fuck am I thinking? Because
I would have never sold crack to a pregnant woman,
but I remember selling PCP to a pregnant woman and
just thinking to myself, like those become the beginning of the.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
End things to me, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Where it's like, right, y'all, it's no way I got
all these aids in this thirteen twenty on them, I say,
teaser and I've sunk in this load for ten dollars
a poor, A twenty dollars poor. It's no fucking way.
And God starts to do this thing, you know, with
my karma, you know what I mean, Where it's like, nigga,

(33:54):
you know what I mean, God will nigga me fast?
Nigga for bro for real? Like I didn't kept you
out of prison, right I didn't. You're earning your money.
I'm protecting you.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Really, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
And that kind of stuff like that started happening. You know,
it's one thing to sell it to a bunch of gang.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Bangers, right.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
PCP is a real active gang banger type of drug.
It's not like like no PCP heads like it's lex.
There's people that's really putting in work, you know, and
they taking what I'm talking about famis the rot. That's
why I knew all the riding this dudes from the city,
Inglewood Fast, all the gangs. I knew the coldest dudes

(34:37):
because they was buying water from me, So you know
what I mean, I knew them even when I came
into business. I named my first CD after the water
that I made popular, White Lightning. You know, I mean,
it's clear, it's clear PC. PCP used to come yellow,
but the preparity and the pipe was clear, so it
made the water clear and I had to brand it
to sell it, and I got so much of it off,

(34:58):
and I just named my CD that, so everybody in
the streets knew who it was, because they might be
like glasses all way from Watts or all way from
Seventh Street when they heard White Line and they're like, oh, yeah,
I know that is that's that nigga. So it makes
me feel like shit and like that is fucked up,
Like that's fucking with me. You know, Keiki being right
here in this conversation happening right now, it sucks.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
It fucking sucks, you know what I'm saying, because.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
It's like, damn, sig you fucked up.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
No, he didn't fuck up.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
That was God, bro, because there was no way when
I hit Pete this morning when we first figured out
we was gonna have this conversation based around LaToya Jackson
and fucking him, and then he's right here and he's
able to remind like, y'all, I wonder how you feel
about selling certain people God telling drugs.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
God damn. It hit me like, oh shit, you mean
I know that.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
That's like wow, Like you know what I mean? And
that's what I'm saying when people think it's something to
be proud of, like when they hear jay Z, Like,
I don't hear pride when I hear talk like I
don't from any real de boy, you don't hear pride.
You hear a sense of accomplishment at times, but you
don't hear pride. Nobody's proud they sold drugs, you.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
You just it was a means to an end, and
you were either more successful and accomplished at what you
were trying to do, you know what I mean, or
you were less. Nobody is really proud that the blut
of people got fucked up off their product, Like I mean,
in closer time, Yeah, Like I used to brag like Nigga,
I had the best work. Nigga, you couldn't if you

(36:31):
pulled my stick twice paused, like if you two puffs
of what I'm selling you, because you were gonna be
a statue Lex, like you wasn't gonna be able to move.
I remember coming into the rap game feeling that energy
still and that even though I knew at that point
I was never gonna sell drugs again, but still being
like delighted by that energy that I was the best

(36:55):
and I had the best, and I prided myself and
being so good at it, you know, even though I
was done with it, and again by the time you know,
you fast forward teen years later, it's like it makes
me feel horrible, and like today right sitting with KIGGI him,
you know, popping up, it makes me feel even worse,
you know what I mean. And don't get me wrong,
Like there's nothing wrong with the g homie, Like he's straight,

(37:16):
his witch is still there, but it's like he didn't
have to be Lex. He didn't have to be like
his certain homies I know never came back.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh I know something too.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
For sure, they smoked Simon. It had a bad chemical
effect on they body, and they never recovery the hospitals
and all. And I think, I thank God that you know,
Satan hasn't been able to put that on my spirit,
Like I didn't see that from somebody. Even when I
saw the lady that I saw Searan Toy that was
pregnant and I saw her son and her son was
just cool, And I'm thinking to myself, like, man, I

(37:48):
could have ruined this little dude life, you know what
I'm saying. So I do think that there's a sense
of accountability on it, d boy, right, because you supposed
to take care of your people. If that's what being
you know, human is all about. That's what being black
is all about. Being human is all about. The verb
of it is, you know, caring for other people, and
being black is the same, you know what I mean,

(38:09):
it's caring for other black people. So when you see
somebody not strong enough to make a quality decision on
their own, honestly, it's your job to make the quality
decision for them, if that makes sense, Like maybe I
can't as a human, but for sure as a black
man in a miracle where we this small population, like

(38:32):
it is my responsibility to make the smarter decision for them.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
You said you could have really ruined someone's life, right, well,
but I wonder do you how do you feel we
could at least at the regulations least say that you
mean like difficult? Does that come into like you don't
know what they're going through, You're doing your transaction, you're

(38:57):
moving on, but that they're doing this drug somehow somewhere
you make life difficult for those families the matter of things,
the children rise above it.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Whatever life was difficult for them. Does that was that ever?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Did that ever come up in your like equation and
how this thing is all played out?

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Not really?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Okay, not not necessarily. I didn't see it that deep,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I didn't consider it.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Example, you you hooking the mom up with stuff, and
she might even do favors for you, you.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Know, bring bring other smokers to you or whatever. Whatever.
You hear a little bit more. And she's doing all this.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
But then you see her daughter somewhere on the other
side of town out late night, you know, her as
belongs in her house or her son.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Now he wants to do some wild shit.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I can I connect that to?

Speaker 2 (39:50):
She's not so crack crack.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Crack made me.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Feel like that. Okay, So PCP is a little bit.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Kind of closer to cocaine, just not rich. It's more
of a.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Nobody's pushing baskets to get PCP. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Like crack, So crack me and crack lasted about four years.
Soon as I became a man, Crack wasn't gonna work.
Crack was cool when I was fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen nineteen.
Like you know, you watching people, you know people mother,
people Auntie talking about sucking your dick and shit, and
you know people you're watching somebody push a basket at

(40:32):
three in the morning. You know they getting all kind
of crap. You could see that effect. You could see
that destroying their life. PCP I could never see it.
I would imagine it just like seeing cocaine. I can't
imagine you could see it destroying their life because these
people are functioning people like I used to sell PCP
to nurses, strippers.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Gang members. Like.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
The type of my customer base at that time of
PCP was so broad of people. That's just how they
partied and did they thing. So I never saw like
we're cracked, I should say I could see the exact effect,
like you could. Man, Homies wasn't gonna be able to
eat that night. Nobody was making sure they went to school.
You know, they were still in their jury like they kids.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Like it was bad. So I could see it PCP.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
I didn't really see it in real time because it
felt so I hate to use this term festive or psychedelic,
where it's more like somebody escaping, you know what I mean.
And you don't see, like I said, you don't see PCP,
you know what I mean, You don't see people that
smoke PCB pushing back like it's a different type of thing.
So it didn't hit me till about thirty four thirty five,

(41:43):
And really it hit me because the more I started
learning about the chemicals with the chemical man, it's the
same thing that they used the Holocaust and that shit,
yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Like it's some shit in that shit. Yes, damn, there's
some shit in there.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
So it's like and I knew it when I was
making it, like I knew, but I didn't even equate
the two, you.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Know what I mean. So that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
It was different, man, But nah, I never would have
I would have never saw it as like maybe if
I would have saw that girl and her kid was
messed up, then I would have knew, you know what
I mean. But like I thank God every day that
you know, I didn't get cursed with that, you know
what I mean, I didn't get cursed with knowing that
I ruined some kid's life, knowing that this lady life.
I thank God every time I seen her. She had

(42:31):
this job, her kids, she and it's crazy because whatever,
even if she didn't see I was wrong, it was
like love. When she saw me, she was you know,
cause it wasn't like I mistreated this lady I used
to look out for.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
She was cool, you know what I mean. It was
never no problem. But you know what I mean, Like
you know.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
You see her, she's doing okay, she's doing good for herself.
Now she got her own you know, she's doing her things.
She live in her son is Bronie popped on her
here vicious animal, which I worry you that got something
to do with it, you know what I'm saying. Like
you know, you just don't know. But everything seemed okay
when God could have really made it to where I
seen exactly how fucking stupid I was at that time.

(43:11):
You know what I liked about it, like if I
did have to say something, if there is a positive.
It wasn't like crack. Crack depended on everybody else. Crack
you had to get cocaine from somebody else, and they
could fuck it up before you got your hands on it.
You know, you'd be figuring it out. PCP really came

(43:32):
from like you could do it yourself. You didn't need
you know, you didn't need a Columbian to ship over
this package to hear, Like, nah, you can go right
out to the woods and redlands and whip up and
make your own stuff.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Did you ever get into wholesaling to other.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah, yeah, at the very end, I did. Right before
I stopped. What's funny is before I stopped, we was
already starting to messing around in Philadelphia, was starting to
meet people. People was coming into town. So my next
plan was to start going out of town and just
plugging up with everybody.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Like you know, I was.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Just like how I approach music, That's how I approach
everything in like drag racing, anything I do. So I'm
always looking at the finished product. And I knew, you know,
at that time, a gallon of PCP in Los Angeles
was eight thousand, might have cost us five thousand, you know,
had a wholesale rate eight thousand. On the street on
the East coast, it was twenty five thousand. You could
make one hundred thousand dollars off if.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
You break it down.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Like so I already knew where my next move was at.
Like I'm finna go take I'm finna start making fifty
five gallon drums and I'm finisa start shipping the shit
to these coasts, and I'm finna get rich, you know
what I mean. And just shit happened right at the time,
and kind of God was like, all right, you just
out of control, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
But I was.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I was approaching it like I would approach getting the
A in school. So but I got to the point
I had a spot that was rolling in Monta Park,
and that's the next neighborhood over It's actually, I was
telling Lex that's the neighborhood. Actually, you know that my
homie's been friends with in conflict with the whole time.
This is where Coolio from. It's from history. So like
I had a spot over there that was me and

(45:14):
baby Pat dog rest.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
In peace his spot.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
We took over it from our older homie tone like
you bought it from me.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
So it's like.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I got to the point where I'm starting to sell ounces,
eight and sixteens for sure, even gallans. But like the
real business at that point was going to Philadelphia. The
real business was going to Connecticut. The real business was
going where. I was even trying to figure out because
I had people that would buy. They would come to
the station from England. They was telling me over there
as worth fifty thousand. I'm trying to figure out how

(45:44):
to fuck do I get this in England? Right, That's
how I'm thinking, because you know, I'm thinking, like damn man,
like how do I bring this thing to a head?
How do I make millions and millions of dollars like
you know some of these dudes from around the way
was doing. Because that's the motivation. The motivation is I
knew a couple of millionaires like that was from my
neighborhood people that raised me. They a million, two, three

(46:05):
million dollars. I'm like, man, how do I get ten?
I mean, so I'm you know, a brother from Philly
coming buy sixteens from me, thirty two's all the time, you.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
He like, Man, Geef, you get over there, man, I'm
telling you, man, you bring ten galls, you gonna come
back with a million dollars down there. I'm like, you
know that was like what you know? Ten Gallon's here?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (46:24):
He's like, Man, you probably get that off about ninety days.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I'm like, what I What I do understand when it
comes to that though, is it's not like it's not
like we like so like we hear California and got
it because they got that they got up there up there.
I don't know if they got good soil ors they
grown the like, but that's available everywhere though, you know
what I'm saying. That was my plan though, bro, because

(46:48):
so if you why would Philly pay them if they
gonna yeah, coock.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Question some of those based chemicals? Are you getting them
black market from Mexico because you can't just buy them?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
No, So I got so good I knew, so again,
here go some glasses shit. Like with hip hop, you
know people make that JOKELA just learned about hip hop. Yeah,
but I don't learn about hip hop the way other
people learned about hip hop. That don't mean I just
learned about the llll COOJ album. That means I actually
learned why and who why ll COJ.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Made the album.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
See I didn't, I don't. I don't consider hip hop
that the Fat Boys made the album. I consider hip
hop understanding why the Fat Boys made the album, where
the art came from, what is fired the art, that's
hip hop. So with PCP, it was kind of the
same way. It was like I start knowing why you
get this, I'll start knowing how you get Bromo benzing. Legally,

(47:39):
I started knowing how you get prepared. Legally, I start
figuring out what it's for it because think about it,
I got the Internet. I'm on the internet. Niggas ain't
got the Internet. And to say it like I'm on internet,
feel me like what they what they use this for it?
One of them is used to walk like trust is truck.
It's truck wheels, diesel, truck wheels. Watch, I'm figuring out
what everything for so homies is mind everything like they

(48:01):
call it parts to a show, right, parts they bund
parts on the street. I don't then already figured out
how to get parts out the store. I figured out
if I go to Ohio, Pittsburgh a couple places, I
can get all my parts for store price. My homies
might have been paying fifty thousand dollars do a fifty
five gallon burn. I figured out how to do a
burn for like twelve thousand because I was thinking, just

(48:22):
like with anything else, I'm like, how you know trapping
legs talk to me enough at this point to know,
I'm always trying to figure out, Yo, how we really
gonna do this? Because we can't do it the way
they tell them. This ain't gonna be no fucking money
for nobody. We be running this motherfucker kicking the shit.
How do we really get to it? I'm trying to
figure out how to fuck we get to it? That
was always my plan. When I first came to Kiki

(48:43):
and I wanted to rap, Kiki Loko was like this
underground legend from the West Coast. I had the label
drew out on a piece of paper and I told
that nigga that there.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I said, this is what I'm finna do.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
That's just how my mind worked, like I don't so
I'll figure out why something works more than you know
how it works, like you don't got to tell me
how records work. Showed me why they work, and then
I can show you how to make it work.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
So for me, like, yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I didn't need no blackmore only thing you probably need
a black market before it was sign on.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
And I had a planet that too.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Legally.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I had a plan to get that legal.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Plan because I'm fascinated as to how that was going
to go.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Somebody might be doing it.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
I can't work.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Sucks.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
When you approached Kiki to get something to let them
know about your plan. Was he wearing a half moon
or did he have like the curls down his back.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Curls down his back?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
He said that half moved you're going.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
You had these low braids.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Welcome down, Alex, Welcome down. Lex. Shut upbout that because
that man right there, let's speak ad.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
At that point. But he just knew how West Coast
Niggas was. So he's talking about the movie. You know,
he from Queens, so they think that they can stay
type is based off the movie. So no, he had
braids back then used that long gass braids blind braid.
But no, Lie I brought I brought my idea to
him on paper. Oh yeah, you ain't saw that. When

(50:19):
you hang with New York dudes, Kiki, it is the
most insulting and degrading and humiliating to hear his crip accent.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Different difference is the difference is though, what Lex does
and what you do back in the compliments, I have
never you my life. And then you clean and then
you clean everything up with saying, but ja is my
favorite wrapper up. But before that, you just you're just
saying that this the most craziest thing I'm saying. Then

(50:54):
got a mechat, a mecha that this that this, But
but yeah, tell me the most disrespectful thing I ever
said about hip hop in my life. I don't keep
on like that, lie because you lie. Next, what is the.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Most disrespecfubl thing I said about New York ever?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
In life? I've never said, you said something about mc shan.
I'm trying to remember what you said. Never I know it,
you know, because I can't remember, I'm not gonna put
it on your jacket. But you see which, I've never
in my life said anything bad about mc shan.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Ever, I think they can. I think that I think
that about York. Yeah, that's what this is really awesome.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I think that's what.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, I think that's what they mind me for.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
What do look at? And I said that, Look, Toronto
is close New York City, so they can kind of
that little.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Because of Drake. They think that attack Chris, it's always
an attack on New York. The West Coast is the
first one. We gave off baby too. We gave our
child and this thing that we grew up up the
ground that no one fucking saw, and we give it
to y'all. And when you're right back around and you know, well,
some of y'all do four men in that four.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Men all of us fantastic.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
There's always gonna be one. I don't know who was one.
It's one of your own.

Speaker 7 (52:12):
Oh hold on, hold on, I'm the talk about in
your hip hop stories.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
They talk about me. I think we've done incredibly well
with this thing.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
New York has.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Blessed us amazing, imaculated.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
We took it to heights that it had never saw
at that point.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
We made it. It's all beautiful.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
To this day.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
The world was like, wow, we did not think this
thing could look better to.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
This hold on on the West Coast. Now, think about it.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Think about what about what was able to do with
hip hop?

Speaker 2 (52:51):
I set them up, he set me up.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
How I'm saying, Think how because it was fantastic?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (52:56):
You think about Curtis blows one, d MC, Kim, Chris,
you know, g Rapped Kane, you know all these great
legend public Enemy and you know LLL cooj is at
the top of the mountain. And look what he was
able to do with hip hop. You know what I mean,
You're like, damn. And then look when he passed it
to Snoop.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Ask your question, right, what was your what was your
initial thought when you heard what specialized at seven? He
was on drink Champs.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I laughed because it looked crazy.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
So you laughed about it?

Speaker 5 (53:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
What is that talking about? When he said the West
Coast brought the destruction of hip hop?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah I remember that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
But you know what, a lot of a lot of
brothers shout out to all the legends from New York
who feel like when the West Coast got on that
they stopped wanting to hear raps from them and they
couldn't get record deals. I could imagine what that felt like,
because everybody wanted you to be a little bit more
tougher in your rap. It was like, you know what,
I don't know about this hippie hop stuff you have
going on. You know this nice stuff is he's treated

(54:00):
you know, you don't want to kill anybody in your apps.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
What it was, it was to the fact that it
was this this what it really was, though it was
like what the fuck you gotta think who was the
who was the who was the top who was the
top group at the time, though, you know what I'm saying,
you have public enemy, you know what I'm saying. That
was that that was speaking a certain message and then
once and then once like once n w A came

(54:25):
in what they they stoleted, they came through it. They
kind of like the kind of like forgotten, you know
what I'm saying. They put them the pe to the bat,
you know what I'm saying, Like that.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
What's better a protest or riot? What's more entertaining, more
entertaining protests or full out fucking riot.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
They needed each other bro create.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
The protest creates the riot. I can't help it that
the business execs like, now we want the poor fledged
riot industry. Let's gip the protest. Let's get right to
the anger. You know, they let Doctor dre put out
the chronic right around red and then he getting sucked
up like that. They were like you know what, Jimmy

(55:13):
I mean, and Tommy like, you know, let's let's put
it out, Let's see what people think.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
And then they blamed it on the fucking Ice Tea's
rock group.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Motherfucker think about it. Who would let somebody put out
a song called fuck the Police? Why would you let
somebody put that out?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:33):
What would you like?

Speaker 12 (55:34):
What?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Like?

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Like Ice Cube was signed to Priority, it was Jews
people at the label. You mean to tell me? When
they was at that meeting and they pressed play, they
let that fly.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Do you believe in that? Do you believe in the secret? Me? No,
you don't believe that happened?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
No, I just believe.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I just believe.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Cowboy flicks are always fan like the like West West
Coast did for hip hop. It made it a cowboy flip.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
It made me whole western.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Like you know what I mean, I'm kind of like
somebody rapping about the stories to actual cowboys talking about
what their stories was.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Like you know what I'm saying. It cinematized it. It
went from being about the story. Like within the I
said the four corners of the contract, it went from
being about the content within the song itself to being
all of the imagery around it.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yeah, but it was always about the image.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
I don't understand well because because he's talking about the
reason the West Coast got more players because the culture
around it seemed more.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
I know, it sounds crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
That's not even see his little things like that. What
are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I mean, doctor dre G.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Thank it's not there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
It's not like I'm insulting New York by saying this.
I'm saying, remember, hip hop outside of the nillis. I
don't know if you kind of want to claim that,
but it's cool if you do. But outside of that,
street hip hop had never everyone wants me to exact.
There you got my man peaks New York like street

(57:14):
hip hop, right, hip hop from the streets never went
number two on the charts.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Lex g thing was the.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Numbers in the country and not really hip hop song.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
It's really no hook, Lex.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
It's really it's really I guess the music. How you're
pick and choose when you want to when you want
to use these these charts and everything like that. I'm saying,
we don't know, we don't. When they mentioned that that
there's no hip hop songs in the top forty, I
mean what they took away the rules.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
No, but you don't care that they took away the
recurrent rules to make that happen.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
They changed the rules that affects all of us.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
They changed the rules of it. Have never mattered you, shaid,
it never matter.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
What's your question, Pep, And again, my memories as good
as it is bad. So take that for whatever the
hell it means. But being you know, Hollerwo adjacent and
you get people who work on both music video and
movies and television, it seemed as though the music video

(58:21):
side on the West Coast took that optically to another
level in a way that I can't remember videos from
the East Coast doing as effectively.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I was saying that, I think that was my point
until Trap kind of got jaded with the chart positioning
right and all that though, because I was going to
reiterate the fact of what the g Thing video was
able to do culturally when you saw it, that's it.

(58:54):
Let me get there.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I'm saying, how do you when when when the four.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Or fives of hip hop gave the button to the
West Coast and they started running with it right to
Pete's point, like the things around it looked very compelling.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Ice cubes Today was a good day. That was a
great three minute movie. I can't think of many other
East Coast rap songs.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Did did Fight the Power video for Public interm? Was
it a protest like it was? It was? It was?
There was a black party. It was a black party.
It's a black party in Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Okay, So imagine, so imagine you're looking at a block party,
right and it looked I know it's hard for y'all
to be like fair, please be imagine you seeing this
block party where people were yelling about the government and
fight the powers.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
And then you see the g thing video.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Look at the first car.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
In the video.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Look, you're just walking through this house and this lady,
it's grown ass fucking me in. They're talking about my
and people talking about your new albums, and somebody ironing
his clothes and they come out right exactly right, and
they're getting this car and the top is down trap
and they're just driving and they're bouncing around in this
shiny car with the top down, right, And then they

(01:00:17):
go to a picnic trap, a picnic trap where the
nigga is cooking with a gun in the back of
his dickies and they're playing volleyball trap with five to
ones and dickies on and they show somebody's dropping brawls
right trap, right, So they're eating ribs and here's this
festive thing happening.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Write this little baby's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Everybody's just it ain't even a fight, right, And then
you go to the and then it ain't over yet.
So not only was this picnic that festive, but then
after this festive picnic, they go to a house party
right just at a time when everybody drinking beer, right,
and guess what they have a refrigerator trap for of
cold beers forties trapped And.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
They say individuals, what individuals is? What did it dam
like that?

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
That's didinematized the genre better the culture?

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Better culture the culture. But that's what but that, Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. All they've done. It was beautiful.
It was beautiful, though, talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
We really did a good point, but we didn't really
get you, guys. Culture that felt officially new York festive wise, right,
because before that member videos like came to videos, they
wouldn't really be like on the block. They it be
in studio a lot of different ideas, you know what
I mean, Like they were still making videos like like Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Jackson and Madonna, different music protection. That video was presenting
what what what standing down looked like? They had numbers
on the bottom of the screen when the video came out.
What you're saying, I'm you're saying, is that of what
the culture was looking like over there? It was something

(01:02:03):
new to the rest of the world. No, no, no
traps and Mary j hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Do you remember protect your Neck?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
It was a time with al I remember. No it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
It's actually an excellent video. No, no, it's an excellent video.
But would you want to be there? That didn't look
like just nine crazy niggas like yelling and shout and
a nigga got a sword. It was a nigga with
a sword. I got a sword and they just walking
around threatening the camera with a sword. There was not

(01:02:39):
a bit it was serious. So I agree it was
Staten Island pissed off and it didn't necessarily looked like
like always. I remember when before the Rest hipp Soul, right,
and we was talking about hip hop and I was like, man,
I'm telling you I got this thing figured out, man,
And he was like, man, you want to see this video.

(01:02:59):
I got shot thisvideo to the single. So he sends
me the video the rap niggas that was cy I'm
telling you, there's no place in that video I would
want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah, video was fire though.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
No, No, that video has great cinematography. Yeah, bro, did
you see them apartments with all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
The niggas into them apartments?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
That is not you want to go. Did you see
the boat? There was no bitches. It was big you
and sixties on the boat. You know the difference when
you see the doctor dra G thing video, you would
like to be there. You go to the picnicga like, man,
it's girls here, it's barbecue, people cooking. You go to

(01:03:42):
the house party if you acted Diddy, they drenched the
girl with the beer and everybody danced. Nigga about thing
and it's did y'all call this gangster rap trap?

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
How did Juicy come up? Juicy come across to you?
That's when it started happening.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
That's why I'm yes, house party and Juicy because listen, Trap,
think about it. The party at the end, Lex, think
about the party at the end. Everybody's y'all called the
West Coast gangster rap. Nigga ain't nothing ghast even happened
to none of the videos. It's just Nigga's party. Think
about it. Dre Day is.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
At The immediate following video.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Was a robbery.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
But who oh, my favorite one. They robbed the dudes
and nothing me ride but you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
But that's the but again, now you're winding down right
even even regulate. They end up in a hotel with
some girls, the motel, the East Side hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Jeem me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
When Biggie came about Juicy, Yeah, I want to be there.
I was like, man, this right here is and then
with Big Popu for one more chance, I was like,
oh my god, I need to go there. Lex every time.
When me and Trap was walking, we and fucking Harley
and I'm looking at these brownstones like, man, I need
to throw me a party like niggas. I'm telling Trap.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Even throw ellis Worth. He was walking down right, walking
down seventh going to the fish spot. You're going to
the fish spot, right, And I saw the building. This
is right there. He look, but I'm like, that's the
car right there. Be me up in that bitch, Seventeenth Street,

(01:05:23):
seventeenth Streets. I was like, oh my god, I gotta ficture.
I gotta picture you. I gotta picture you right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
There, brother, hardly the Carter is in Harlem on one
hundred and seventeenth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Nigga, Yeah, yeah, that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
That was the fly ship in the world. And I'm
chuking up to set on the streets. Even when people
called the West Coast gangster rap, there was nothing, never
really gangster happening, like not in the video that you
cared about. You think is two parties? How do you
leave a picnic and go to a house party?

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
If I think about, we have some celebration videos. We
have celebrations, y'all do y'all do?

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
But nah, it sounds like it sounds like he's starting
it with Biggy But does he do? You all remember the
video in nineteen ninety the quest we need a Opabama.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Checking around on top of launch ye drafting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
New clear, New clear. But that's what But that's also
why those people were so successful.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Wait, did Hype Williams do Juicy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
He should have if he didn't, I'm not sure. I'm
not sure. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Think about that, bro, Like when you saw I remember
seeing a one More Chance remix video, Heavy D was
the fucking bouncer. Oh my god, I wanted to be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
There so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Heavy D is the bouncer. Why is Luke in total
just sitting on the couch and it's cracking.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
That's the ship and that's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Where to me, the West Coast beat everybody else to
the party culturally, like the one thing I give drand
Stoopid and credit they really had everybody like feeling like, man,
I need to be there that every even listen. Dred
is a song, This is easy and Luke Lex is

(01:07:14):
there in a parking garage at a party. Why is
it a party in the parking garage? It's a parking garage.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Lex. They have a little bass where.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
They run into Jerry Healler the Easy and they walk
in the office and then the rest of it. They
rapping in the parking garage by themself and then they
snap their fingers and it's like two thousand people, bitch,
everybody partying. Who the fuck wouldn't want to be there?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
What the fuck? See? What you're talking about, I don't
see like this. And I do this every time, every
time in California, always say this stuff. It's the fact, though,
what you what I was doing was giving off the
vibe of what California is like. When I'm in California
and I'm min of im down mine down the street
and I see big ass palm trees and then I'm saying,

(01:07:57):
I'm just I'm saying ship like that. I'm like, yo,
this ship. Look, that was just giving off what but
it was But it's but it's disguised within them palm
trees and ship and you be in the fucking hood though.

Speaker 10 (01:08:07):
Was this?

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Was it some ship in the high rise with the skyline.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
In the back. No, but that's not where we're at.
Though in New York there's all they're not letting them
negroes up there. No, that's not where we're at. Though.
We're in queens Bridge. You're in the projects and stuff
like that. Bro, you know what I'm saying. The micros
are there. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You're gonna
see you got the you got the culture when you
got our videos, know what I'm saying. Wherever somebody was
fun that's what that's the coach. You've got.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
What you got just didn't look it just didn't always
look as festive. Don't be wrong, like, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Look as fester when you go there, know even though
does it look like I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Think that that the East Coast videos were trying to
just encapsulate the micro moment of the lyrics and the
ship that was going on in the song, whereas you
could be rapping about whatever the fuck's going on in
the song. You right, they don't even talk about the world,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
They don't have nothing about fun. Something next day in
the parking garage and if focks me up every time,
like and I remember telling it, like, hey bro, this
don't look like fun. This looks serious like them Nigga's
mad Dog and the camera shit, I don't think I
would go back to the apartments right now. Apartments is crazy.

(01:09:14):
And I'm looking at some boat. It ain't no girls
on the boat, and I'm like, that do not look fun?

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
And I feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
That to kind of do like the Somali Pirates movie,
what they're doing, I've never heard of a video on a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Boat with no war women was just a bunch. It
was a bunch of the armies, A bunch of six
old on the boat I got. I got right here, man,
I saw the D D B GE thing. I wanted
to be in those parties. Man was so fun. I'm like,
oh dos, oh god, you know, I wanted to be

(01:09:50):
at when I seen it. When when I seen ice
Cream and he was walking through the coliseum, marb was cool.

Speaker 13 (01:09:56):
You know what I'm saying, Like that the trap you
did already, you did that, you know what I mean.
I mean, you can actually see Carvel calling through the coliseum.
But what doctor Jaden showing us. I want that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
But like he said though, also I think that that
goes along with being out there in the West coast.

Speaker 12 (01:10:21):
Yeah, you want me, where did the people come from?

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
So you know what I compare that to right there,
that get at Me dog dm NEX video. He was
up in the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
No, that's the one that's that's that's not that's made
that video I made that know that that that that
is not like that's a that's New York Energy. But
that you get sucked up right there. Yeah, there's another one.
Rough Riders Anthem was dope. That's what a bunch of niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
On the streets. They got the bikes.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Out here at least.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
In though they just I'm like, oh, this is the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
But but Biggie to me did the best job of
really showing like, yeah, this is how we were party
in Brooklyn, like the Brownstone and that lones and Big Popper,
like the lounge scene Hella player, like they had it
lit just riding. It's just brawls in there. It's just like, damn,

(01:11:28):
that's kind of cool. Oh they did have some transmissions in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
There, depending the South the best you feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
So this is the tricky part right back. That ass
up is probably the one. And you see the motherfucking
girls out of the country fair girls, all the things
they spend time.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
I was like, damn, why did I stuff into a
second line in the Ninth War? Yesterday you out there,
you're out there right now. You know what today yesterday
I gotta get out of the car.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
All you said, them people got the whole line and
all the jazz being and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
You have to tell everybody out on the street, know
y'all lied talking about them people that we keep saying
this hip hop would be good more than people could
not be at this tunnel. Look at that ship right there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
It was crazy, right, Hake did thing with that video? Yeah, yeah,
live performance.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
That was our thing. We said, if you can't go
to the tunnel in prime tunnel years, you're not hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Snooper that went through the embody that you wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
The automatic hip hop guys is gonna go. I'm just
saying them dudes, who we question? Yeah, prime tunnel years,
your asking hip hop?

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Now they go to s O B's That's what they
ended up going. The probably is we make s O
B hip hop? Yeahn got me wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
S O B used to have have hip hop things
there because I performed there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah, that's a crazy I said.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Spot though tunnel is the hip hop spot is like
the how forgive me if it's not disrespectful, But it's
like the professional hip hop spot. Does that make sense?
Next professional hip hop spot? The tunnel is where the
streets went?

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Yeah, thatsnel was the movie that you like the next
year been in the tunnel that you twice.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
That you have people going there all the time. I
couldn't one time. It was okay, it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I was young. I'm not coming back to the ship.
Yeah I was. I was young. Going there. My cousins.
My cousins saw garding to give me up in there
like I might be like fifteen, You're always talk my
head like the trip in there and get trip in there.
You got through there. It was like, nah, he ain't
getting had to standing outside with the joints the whole time.
I had to be the one house outside of the
block with the from to come out the whole night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Oddly, and this is gonna sound crazy when you think
of New York as the forefathers of hip hop and
truly like the architect of the party. Visually, our parties
started looking more fun.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Is that feir Lex.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Like all starties? So we scot was looking Yeah, they
started looking more fun parties.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
To me, when I watched those videos this is Dad,
it was boundary set, you feel what I'm saying, Like
everything that was visually seen in those videos and the
dude at the barbecue grill like you mentioned, the dude
having the handmad his waistline, it was like the culture

(01:14:46):
was up front.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
I loved it. I thought it was really dope. It
something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Felt like that felt like a safe environment, even though
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
It didn't feel safe.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
You though you knew it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Yeah, right, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Song didn't have to like idiot, they made the song
video commercial over the top of the song.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Right, you just say that we saw this g up,
I said the l were saying half the video matched
the song.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
They just made a song and then they just laid
three minutes of video as an advertisement over the top
of the song.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Right, okay, but every VideA that comes from the West Coast,
it could be beautiful. For the first of all, were like, Yo,
these guys are in paradise, an issue, but then everything.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
Around banging on other people are smoking people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
But think about it, concas most wanted don't have festive
videos like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Was active video.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
You there, right, I know you were that and the
thing is so like it was dangerous. I'm looking at
each rapper who showda had probably had issues, according to
the media.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
With each other, and you was there all these guys
to the yos. But Yo did it. But it looked
uncomfortable to me. That was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
It was a little bit like the prison yard.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
But it was cool. I mean, I guess at that
time I was so much bullshit. It was glasses, you
know what, you know what I don't get at me.
The video is how do you want It? By Tupac.
That's getting at me. Due. Yeah, that's when he was
in the house. Was in the House of Blues, bro
on the stage, all on the stage House Blues.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
It wasn't as festive to us as ged up, Like
if you see ged up. They on top of the
VIP of Loan Beach and it's like a thousand people
all in the streets into the parking lot.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
And then y'all came back with explosive that video. That's
another thing you started getting like the accolades for like
music videos. And I said, they said who did that?
Someone asked me who did that video? And I said little, I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Said, what's he?

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
They said, no, we don't wait to look at that. No,
poor hunter, poor hunter, your Paul used to get busy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
The greatest. That's one of the greatest hip hop videos
ever created. Explosive. No, No, the greatest.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Is that the one that's inside the the about talking
about Art Tunnel Sentry Club.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Is that the one that she's the strip the stript club.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
That's the Century Club. That's what I say for you, Yes,
is the explosive Uh huh?

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
That's that's that's the next episode. That's that's the greatest one.
This one stand up to g S.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
You should be turning b T L B C. Get
we hooking back up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
And when they thang this, this was like ar tunnel.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
They called this the secree clean like the centry you're
thinking Chance Central Club.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
It was like a tunnel slip. He was a little
bit like, you don't give needing money in the streets.
Just a swank in my head won't get you down.
Sick for some gift and take this on this chair
another fensive video. I was still.

Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
Dread that it was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
I see well all on the gas and ship that
was happening. Our video is hell y doing? After you
do that one, play play hate me now, play hate
me now? That video fire.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
But it was just hell of sacrilegics.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
I mean side from that side for those scenes though
them club scenes was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
That's what made it fire. Though the crazys of like
looks like he was gonna go the horn for making
his video.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
That's when Steve Stock got popped and had with that
bottle gift of that niggas like what are you doing?
Why should you play with God? This video This is
when I really this was the first Nods video I
really ever saw. I was yeah, bro, he was on
yeah bro. He went back to the project the first platinum,
first order to bring the platinum plat back and he
was on top of the store on burning right there.

(01:19:10):
That's that's what. That's what the east side.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
He was on top of the v I P along
vi P record. They all started that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
They were doing a lot with this part. This part crazy,
you know, this is what I am.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
He went through to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
I did like I know that block said you need
two explosions.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Right there, right there, right there for the right there
and watch that that big man. You gotta go to
the pot when they walking through the club with the
white minks on. But put the guy and got the
mink had on. He's got the mink now, I got
the mink had on. Bid looking fun.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
The other guy because the other guy understands how the
market and how the promote his puff.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
Yeah he rightes Yeah this pump.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Animals watched my face for decades.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
The man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Strapped up.

Speaker 14 (01:20:15):
Then I stayed four expanded more to the fixed create
bill see me in the chail with safe things. You
got the same staff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
They're not gonna look part with the white maing song
that was and then he spit the Then he spit
the champagne and the camera. But you still want to hate. Yeah,
just about going right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
Now, you saying I got millions of times, got that
chain on t B chain can't can't stop that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
Yeah, he stopped in.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
A big old Look this guy's car. They got the
mink going the full length with the man hat on
to come off. Yeah, you're gonna spit the champagne and
the camera.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
That's one of them that was hyped this video. Don't
get enough credit to that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
This video fire to me. I'm trying to this.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Yeah, I don't know this spice.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
Just start spikesy giant spikes this video on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Yeah, this is hell in New York. I know the
song without little crazy fire.

Speaker 14 (01:21:28):
You got fire niggas talking, y'all said some more ship.
I used to run the block. Now corporate hopping out,
you know with some when the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Doors lifting son this for all.

Speaker 14 (01:21:40):
Right, cutting the skylight Yeah yeah, court side that the
floating when you get the first from Fransberry, got the
roller mid a lot of summer. If I can't get
it done, I got social swit, please get the money
backing it up with Geese, stay icy because ship can spicy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Loo can tell you can tell this you you know
what I'm saying. It's not like.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
This sounds like him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
None of the other ships signing price. Of course, we're
talking about talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Lost money.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta play the video when
when you explained that how the whole thing went down. However,
when Dad because he went in there, went in there
with Dad because because he called him up, he come
through the supposed have been to collaborate. He said by
the time that he was going through you know the
whole sixteen wow m.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
To me, it's like, when you look at it, that's
what hip hop really really missed, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
It's just fun. It used to be so much fucking fun.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
People hip looking hype. When he finally got with Dre.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Mm hmmm instilled Dre, this is dough, He's just crying.
He's like, no, and I said, my whole life right

(01:23:20):
rag folks still doing that blue rag with that fucking
rag lind students straight. He told I can't keep it
home a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
I'm with the spots that I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Knowing the rock. He put this together for that boy man,
ho put this together for him for real, for real?

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
Yes, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Yeah was getting off. Yeah, Drake did it though, Drake
did it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
Yeah, j did write that for him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Yeah yeah he did right, charge Drake did it? Is
that this yo.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Used to be my video on a A little ship.

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
Yeah, this is my ship too.

Speaker 13 (01:24:06):
I ain't gonna even hold you's know about this peaky log.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Hey you never find that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
When we used to look at holl he would be
that's crazy.

Speaker 15 (01:24:25):
Hey, bring your mother fucking out to the question your
spots on the flo.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Watch the whole story. Drop. Does everybody want to say
you make the low lot and you know all riders.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Let's answer your question. Yeah, answer the question.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Yeah, you know, figging look right, then kicking load saying
so fire fire and then produce fire fire, don't don't
He had the haircut.

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
I thought that was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
The locks you lex. That was tough right there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
He's like, did he had a shirty temple?

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
That's what? Oh? G that was tough on the movies
made that Yeah, that was tough.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
O G okay in it peat and they had too video.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
They had two videos you showed with that haircut Snoop
was in the centric club of the same Haircuts.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Thanks Shirley Temple.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
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