May 27, 2025 • 58 mins
In this conversation, the speakers explore the evolving dynamics of social media and its influence on public perception within hip hop culture. They examine how morality is often framed through the lens of fandom, the shifting definitions of criminality versus civilian identity, and the racial undertones that shape these narratives. The discussion also highlights the tensions between mainstream visibility and cultural authenticity, particularly within the West Coast hip hop scene. With a focus on unity, accountability, and cultural preservation, the speakers reflect on the importance of honoring hip hop’s roots while navigating the complexities of street culture, victimhood, and the digital age.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
And welcome back to another episode of No Sealer's Podcast
with your host.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Now fuck that with your low glasses, Malone.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Pet dog, what's the deal.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
You tell me?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I've been setting up.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
My most monumental press run ever, like I finally understood how.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
To use Twitter, Cool, Instagram.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
No, I'm I'm waiting all the mics right there. That's funny.
You know what Mike you're speaking into Okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
He's holding a press conference, we're doing a podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You looks like he's about to go fight. Lennox Lewis
had a crazy thought on Way Conflict tweeted. He was
saying how Twitter was like a place where people would
unfollow you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
If they don't agree with you, Okay, And.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Then I saw somebody today saying to me, oh, well,
blasts you know he lost he losing uh the respect
he got from the Kendrick followers or something. And I
thought to myself, like, I don't think it hit people
yet that I'm not fucking playing.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
See, I think.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Everybody be on Twitter playing, or everybody on Twitter trying
to convince you or something, or everybody on Twitter trying
to sell you something.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Where would you be losing Kendrick followers. What you do
after the battle battle Drake and Kendrick battle, you would
have lost Kendrick fans.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, people felt a lot of people I think started
following me. I don't know, because I don't really stare
in my Twitter. I can't see what you were saying
that would make them think you lost you know, Kendrick fans.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So Drake fans makes sense. Well, so what they feel
is so I think.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think there's a moral standing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay that maybe people that support dot has like a
moral standing. They feel like they're a bit morally righteous
compared to other people. It's kind of a running joke
that you will see online about like you know, the
homie fan base, but where they feel like that they're
(02:45):
morally superior. Honestly, they're morally inferior to me. So it's like,
let's say, take for R Kelly, for example, I'll be
screaming about R Kelly getting fair treatment. They'll go into
an emotional space of talking about who he slept with
or so so forth a song I don't give a
fuck what he did morally, I wanted him to be
(03:07):
treated correctly based off the spirit of the laws that he's.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Being charged with. Okay, so I'm not saying free R.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Kelly. I'm saying R.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Kelly doesn't deserve thirty five years in prison.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
They're trying to look morally superiors, like I don't care
what happened to him.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
He married a Leah. I don't care what happened to him.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I saw the TV show and I'm like, well, I
don't care about him for real, but he's a brother
and I truly want him to have fair treatment in America.
That's the most morally upstanding thing you could do as
a black man in America.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So you think that's Kendrick's fans is now morally.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, I think they're challenging me morally or different people
and they don't realize what my morals stand. I think
in their mind they can't because they're so busy trying
to again market to Twitter or to followings, that they're
not being real black people or real humans.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
This is exactly exactly where we left off on the
previous show, like the teaser.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That's crazy. No, we got off the last time.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
ILL said people seeing like, you know, some pedophile gets
stabbed one hundred times of prisoners. They're like, yeah, you
should be stabbed, you should be killed. It should be
little on a fire like you know, all the stuff,
and people just one up each other to try to
posture moral superiority as saying, if you don't think that
this person deserves all the worst as much as I do,
then you must agree with them, and you're a piece
of ship person. And that's where we left off, and
(04:43):
this is where we picked up today. So if you
listen to them straight through, it's like a commercial break,
it's nothing ranks.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So and then there's been this thing with Diddy, so
will this is no Sillings podcast. Okay, not streamed the podcast,
This ain't the lunch shower. My brother Pete Dog and
the house Glasses Loch got my big brother Cang up
in his spang. So I was talking about Diddy. So
(05:17):
the whole thing with kid cutting, we talked about it
on the stream, but just to get Pete up to date,
I had a conversation where I was telling Justin Hunt
and a couple other brothers, some really dope brothers in
the hip hop's face. Curtis King, Wayne O, big fan
of Wayno a brother that does a TV show this network.
(05:42):
Have you ever seen the show with the brat he has.
I think people pretty much watching that show got to
figure out how to get on there.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But he's a brother on that show. I can't remember
his name.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It was a couple of dope brothers, and I was
explaining to them that a lot of things that were
considering hip hop, they're not quite hip hop.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Like Cuddy.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Uzzy Travis, I don't think they're making hip hop. I
think they're making modern rock music, right like the original
people who made rock music. I'm listening to the energy
and I can separate. I can hear there's something different.
And it's not because their music sounds different. The energy
is different.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
These aren't hip hop records. These are commercial rap tunes.
M like my Man, my Man, switch up tips a
little bit there. So I was telling them, like, so,
I wouldn't expect them.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
To abide by the same cultural ideas because I think
their music is rock music. Travis calls his music raise music.
Uzzi calls himself a rock star, and I think it's obvious.
But people have been arguing with me. I ask this
question now, because they do that kind of music, could
they have still been raised up hip hop? But you
(07:03):
don't get raised up hip hop, right, you get raised
up in street, urban ideas or culture. Okay, but that's
the same ideas that birth rock music to some degree.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it's really the same.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Idea that to some degree birth jazz.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So street urban culture birth all these different musics.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Not necessarily because I don't think the street or the
urban part had necessarily been established it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I mean some places.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I mean, I don't think blues blues is more of
a rural thing.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, blues is because they had to move from one
area together in the sadness of.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That, and rural though, you know, I mean it's more rural,
it's not urban. It's not dinsally populated. But it was
going for the country to the city, and that was
the blues because they was leaving the country and being
forced to the city.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Sure, that's where the blues started. I mean with that too.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So I'm saying I think the experience of this country
generates all music. But I noticed when I would hear
Travis's songs, even stuff with rappers or other hip hop acts,
I would notice it was always a different energy. It
was an enjoyable energy. This Nigga makes fantastic records. But
I'm like, this is different. Then I saw his concerts,
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I'm like, man, this is different. And I was able
to identify, based off of my studies and my creativity
in my mind to say like, oh, this is modern
rock music. It's a modern take on the same energy.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
That created rock music. Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Obviously everybody gets mad. Oh glasses, you know, fucked all
of my studies everything. I just get cut he Street.
I'm not sure he's from Shaker Heights in Cleveland, because
I think if we say street then it still goes
under due, you know, rat and stuff like that. But
if he's not even street, but that's different. But Rat
(08:54):
don't got nothing to do. Rat existed before streets. Rat
Yeah with cowboys. Yeah, Rat existed in Europe. You know
what I'm said. So it's like, that's not the point.
I don't think I ever got into calling Kid Cutty
a rat or not.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What I realized was when I put again the point
was I was saying. The joke was after people fought
me back. Let's see if Kid Cutt he keeps it
hip hop tomorrow in court. Remember that people got mad
on Twitter talk shit that ended up being it's really viralty.
It's like twenty plus million impressions, right, which I'm we're
(09:39):
trying to figure how to get three million for the video,
and we got twenty million on a simple ass joke.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I don't know what keeping it hip hop mean.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Because that's really just I think hip hop is the
street urban culture expression. The artistic expression of street urban
culture's not really bound. It's the expression of street urban
culture in this particular style of form. So I let
people just go off, and I'm like, people kept saying
he was a civilian.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I noticed that, and it was a weird.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Like racial undertone where it was like, oh, you know,
he not a street nigga, Like almost as if they
thought street niggas created the idea of snitching or like
that's something to do with games or streets. And it
hit me last night and this morning. Kid Cutty is
(10:31):
a dope fiend, right How how I mean is that
what people say is just through That's kind of his brand, Okay,
the stoner that does cocaine and peels and sad and
he grew up in Shaker Heights in Cleveland, Okay, which
(10:53):
is hard to not huh, he's.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Kind of in the same world in that regard as
the other dude from uh Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Right, Whiz, Yeah, yeah, Whiz is a little bit closer
to just standard urban culture, you know what I mean.
Cutty Leans a little bit further away, but it's close enough.
You know, both of them have an impression when it
comes to Black people in America, like they're not their
music whatever it is, it's not far away from black
(11:22):
Black people still enjoy kid cutting and whiskyly sure, sure,
I mean, and I'm talking about regular black people from
like where I'm from, because even black people are like anybody,
but they're not like I know some people in the
hood that still play Kid Cutty or whiskey. They not
like they're not that far apart, you know what I mean. Again,
they have a way with rock music, you know what
I mean. Where again it's like I would have Magie
(11:43):
Street people was playing a little Richard at one time,
Chuck Berry. So I'm like, he's a drug addict, Like
he's not a civilian. Like if you procure illegal drugs
and you abuse those substances, you are not a civilian.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
No, it's juicy j right, So I'm like Joe hit
me to them.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I'm like, wait a minute, this guy.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And then people like, well, you could be a drug
addict and you could buy cocaine and be you'll be
a drug addict and still be a civilian.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I'm like, no, you can't. Oh, yes you can.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know, I said, so can a dealer be a civilian?
Well that's different. I'm like, well, how is it different?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
I want to know if any of those people have
ever bought drugs from somebody outside of a house party
with their friends in their life ever.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So people just hitting me and I'm like, and it's
even some people I respect, my homeboy black trade. Gee,
I'm like, bro, you're not a civilian if you are
if you abuse a legal substance because you're buying, you
you're committing a crime to purchase, right and then you're
committing a crime by doing it. That means you would
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be a part of the same cycle as the dealer.
So the expectations of of of underworld behavior criminal codes
still falls on you, right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, breaking the law regardless.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You gonna get strung out and do some more illegal
ship because you're.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Strung that should push you.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's like a fence and a flocker, a person who
buys and and you know who launders stolen goods for
money and the person who burglarizes house. A flocker and
a fence, same criminal cycle. A prostitute and a john
the same criminal cycle. A fiend and a dealer, same criminals.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
You know that this is again the USA has such
a bizarre crossroads between who's the victim and who's the
evil doer. The drug dealer is the evil doer. The
drug consumer is the victim. But you go three blocks
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down to the track and the prostitute, who is the
salesperson in this is the victim and the buyers now
the fucking evil doer d we can't get it straight.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Him then is also the evil doer.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's true, he's the dealer again.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And so watching all these comments come to my Twitter,
and a lot of times I use my Twitter like
a media press line, like I've really been able to
figure out a lot of branding, creating really deep conversations,
never trolling, but really ideals. And I know they're gonna
take those tweets and those will be the things. When
(15:09):
it's when I dropped the single on June tenth that
people are going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So now I have my part.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I'll have my publicist, Mighty send them out to people
as different talking points.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
If you can use these, these.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Will create conversations that will galvanize your audience.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So I'm like, that's how deep I am. Now I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So to make a long story short, I just looked
at and I noticed this weird racial undertone where I
think they think this ship is started by black people
in America, that what started all of these kind of
(15:54):
concepts of of of of morality. When it comes to crime,
I think they think it's some kind of exclusive things
they like glasses, Well, it's it's stockbrokers who buy cocaine.
It's I'm like, it's stockbrokers say cocaine. Are they they
they're not civilians. I'm like, Oh, you don't see how
(16:17):
ridiculously racist that sounds.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Like people love to do two things, like several things.
But they're really good for creating these like white caricature
archetype figures. They're great at that, and then they're great
at claiming steak to what's the thing when you invent something,
(16:42):
to patents of anything. But like by black people. That's
negative that pre existed them. I should They'll just steak
a patent license down like they thought. Omerta was like
some big girl from three blocks over.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And I had a question, right, So the dude was
I don't thinking to myself like, y'all don't hear how
ridiculously racist this sounds. And race is not in the
oppression sense, but in the you see somebody else that's
just inferior or someone that superior the simple definition. I'm like,
so it's John Gotty, a street nigga.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I mean no, I used to wear suits. I'm like,
what the court.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
That's the other funny thing we talked about last time too.
When you see the Surveilus videos, they're in Adidas jumpsuits.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Like run DMC. They only wear suits the fucking court.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
They don't get that's where run DMC got it from.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's the crazy part.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'll be like, because this has been my point, Pete,
I've been saying for years now. I'm not taking nothing
from black people. Don't get me wrong. Yes, black people
in the Bronx were the centerpiece of hip hop, but
hip hop hisself is not black. It's streaked urban, right,
So that's why you can have some people from Latin
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American countries, some white folks at the center. That's the
reason why some of these people name themselves after white
people that were lures in street urban culture.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Like you know you hear.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
So who you k who the first young JEZU was?
Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I'm not mad at that thought. Wow, really, if.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Jez had Meach, Frank had Columbum, Gambito, whoever, whichever one
of those people he was fucking with.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
This is nothing new, But for some reason in America
it looks Pete.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I get it. Bro.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I couldn't imagine being a white man in America and
you having to hear niggas complain about racism.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Would it be almost like fuck?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
So, y'all really don't have no idea white folks be
on this ship.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Well, who are the people making the common so they
black or white people?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
They get black? Oh, it'd be shit. I mean, at
least their profile picture be black. But I'm talking conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But but I'm gonna tell you why is different. And
this is another thing that bothers me. Now, this is
a little different than racist. It's worse than racism when
black people feel like they inherently understand what's going on
with street, urban culture or any level of criminality, when
they don't know nothing, but because they listen to some
rap songs and have Google.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Like, people send me googles of a civilian. I'm like,
what you mean the definition? Yes, And I'm like, you
can't google.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Like you can google street urban terms or terms that
were birthed in in the underworld, but it might.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Not necessarily be as accurate as you would imagine.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So they was like a civilian, and I hear a
lot of people running around this narrative. Civilians are not people.
That's not gang bangers. That's not true. Anybody participating in
the cycle of consistently is.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Not a civilian.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Now, look, it's like the car we're not talking about you.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
If if you're a mercenary in the military, you're not
a civilian. You aren't enlisted, yes, but you're not a civilian.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And if you're and if you're a fucking doctor and
then armitage in the army, you're not a civilian.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Military people. I thought brann't civilian.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
No more so, I think they're confusing gangs with under me. No, no,
are you supposed.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
To not kill the medical people in the field. That's
why they always mark themselves, and you're supposed to like.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Not sure, but they're not civilians. That's just a code
of behavior. Sure, they are very much a part.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Of They're not finna go help if if the United
States is fighting the French, they're not gonna go help
the Frenchmen.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
All got to help their own peoples. They in the middle.
Like so, but a dude, like you know, and it's
so many smart asses.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I hate that there's no real documents because I don't
think people would argue with a doctor about.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Fucking ankle surgery.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But it's like somebody said, Glasses, well what about jaywalking?
I'm like, that's a traffic infraction.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It's not a crime. But you know what I'm saying.
I'm like, no, you don't know what you're saying, Cuz like,
why do y'all?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And I'm telling Jayu and Manny today I'm talking to them.
It's like everybody I know just wants to fucking argue
with me. We're seeing some ship one plus when he
go to I don't know, glasses, you know you can
get seven oro, Why are you wasting my time.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know me, Mike that you know a hard rule
is for me. Now.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
As soon as I hear a sudden start with what about.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'm done? Well, what about? That's it?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I am focused on something else. You're just they're talking
to yourself at that point?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
What about?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
And I'm out?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
They almost robbed me up my joy this week. This
has been a hard week for me. All this week.
I realized why Puff never really fucked with me, all
the way he said, I down party like him. I
know what he means now. I didn't quite know what
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he meant. I get why a lot of people didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Really. They have to be motivated by your lifestyle. It
ain't just about you're a good person. I'm to help you.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It was like, no, we have some kind of connection,
even my own friends. I confront the problem with puns
like I remember y'all was on that Molley shit. Is
that why y'all stop trying to help me and hang
out with me?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oh? I swear to God because we're friends like that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And if I can ain't coming to you and give
you my honest opinion, nigga, we not friends and I
would know that right now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Nigga, that way, we ain't friends. So they said, what
was the answer.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
No, you talk to us like we were smokers. I'm like,
that's not what I said. That's your fucking conscious. I'm
not treating you like you not shit. I'm asking you
a fucking question that meant something to me. Nigga, did
y'all stop fucking with me and we stop hanging because
I don't fucking do drugs. Man, I'm not even gonna
answer that. Yes, you motherfuckers did. So that was something
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else then I was talking. It was a it was
a fake ass rat battle happening. And I'm trying to
keep the West together because I understand how hip hop,
especially the origin New York of hip hop, uses media
to build their own narratives for their own support. And
now I started to galvanize people on the West and Hey,
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call the people, Hey make sure y'all know what they're doing.
Don't let these people use you. People got mad and
start talking shit, and I'm like, ain't this a bitch?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Then, faby mster Fab is my nigga, like my brother?
That's really it's somebody I think like this nigga, my brother.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Like it was a situations while I was ready to
kill over faby here in La. And when the battle
was happening, why Dad and them starts saying we to
West Coach, were from Oakland and all the barrier niggas
start doing this whole shit, and I'm like, what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Are y'all doing? Nigga that says the West nigga or
the other people.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
We don't give a fuck with other people think nigga
is us nigga forty short hammer nigga. Everybody mean the
same thing. Mess all over mean the same thing to
us as they mean every nobody else here. Nigga don't
know West y'all letting these out of town that y'all
trying to be cool.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
These motherfuckers don't give a fuck about none of us.
So they're trying to divide California and the West Coast. Yes,
it's so fabious.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
In Gwapdad comments when Guapda said that bullshit man I
call Fabyan.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Cuts his ass out.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Why would you say that you're not dumb? That make
me look for sticking up for you a fucking with
you all these years. I'm thinking we the West Coast
and all the time you just on some punk shit
I'm ready to knock a nigga down for forty niggas.
Short y'all trying to tell me this how y'all feel
about us?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And Short be down in LA all the time. Guap
be down here. You guys feel that way, niggah.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So if somebody unp would never say no shit, Short
would never say no shit like that because he no.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But it's the younger niggas who.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Feel like, oh, well, everybody recognize that lay don't recognize us,
so we need to separate, No, nigga, that's when we
need to bond together more. Whatever we got, nigga, we
just sharing. So when they say West Coast, they think
everybody thinks LA. Only when they say West Coast, that's
their thought. And I'm not mad at that. Hollywood is
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in our backyard. It's in the it's in the lost
Southern California's backyard.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So the only reason they know that is because we
have movies.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah, but I never felt like they ever really claimed that,
though I can't remember, like, you know, like even if
you were to go back to like the quote unquote
like East Coast, West Coast, bad Boy death throw things
very LA centric. You know, they've always kind of least
like when I lived up there, it seemed like they're
no offense to the Bay Area people.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Like I. I like the bay It's you know, it's
a cool spot. I like the way they do things.
But they.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
When I'm in LA, we're deaf, dumb, and blind to
what's going on up there.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Most of the time.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
They kind of have a little bit of a little
brother chip on their shoulder, and I feel like, rather
than be the little brother data, we're just gonna change
our last name.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I agree with that people, but they're not the little brother.
The Bay Area is the big brother.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
It's the older brother, but it's the smaller older brother.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's Fredo that the people.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Because black culture, the street urban culture that we're synonymous for,
started in the baby.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, and that's true, but they're Fredo in your mind.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
The first funk ships, it's sliding.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Family's done, Like what the fuck are you talking? Like?
You should be happy? Little brother is shining, So that's like, okay,
see him. Yeah, Short Short is the father.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Of how we started to find hip hop music for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And he represented West Coast. Yeah. I ain't never really
seen him not represent West Coast like we all do
I'm from Watch, but nigga's the West.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Watch into Los Angeles, the city, not the county for
niggas watched, this is our neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But that's what I said about in the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Look at all the way from Washington, all the way down,
look like they live on the West Coast. Yeah, Like,
I'm from the West coast, West coast, That's what I'm saying.
They say West. Everybody West Portland's West. You know, Vancouver,
Canada is the West.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
But again, but it made me think, like, man, mam,
there was a moment over the last twenty four hours
that I was thinking to myself, You're right, Was I
finna keep ramping the West Coast? Should I keep fucking
with niggas? Should I keep standing up for nigga? Should
I keep trying to give them game?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
And I was thinking myself, like, man, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Fuck that. I'm finna cuss all these niggas ass out
over and over again. Fuck that, nigga. You the West
nigg that's it.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
You almost sound like the the Union trying to reign
in the Confederacy. No, you're not going to not be
part of this gut damn.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I'm linking on these punk.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah niggas trying to spiral off.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Nigga, Nigga, I was should have to sell Selski. I'm
getting Celsie coming. I'm like, y'all better stop letting these.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I go for Lincoln over the g homies. Oh the
jobes for the babe. Nigga, y'all the West, Nigga, ain't
no getting out of the car. Nigga, ain't no getting
Ain't nobody letting you out. Nigga's the West. We're fucking
nobody else, say, nigga, y'all music raised all of us
the same.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Nigga, Nigga, it's the West. Niggain't no getting out. Nigga.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We together, even if y'all don't want to fight right now, Nigga,
we together because if somebody chipping off of y'all, Nigga,
we're going. But you said it's the Bay Area, saying
ain't not from the West. It's not nobody else familiar
saying that it's not because no, but but again, because
the Bay Area is to me, the father of blackness
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on the West coast as far as California goes.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But it has a direct, more direct connection to.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
The east coast in La. No to the south, southeast
to me, south and east. Just like every about to
say Florida in the south, but it's on the east
coast to me. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, saying
yeah yeah, definitely that. But it's like I've always saw that,
you know what I mean. So it just hit me,
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like these niggas like talking to me.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Basically almost to the year I remember what five ten
year difference. A bunch of people basically from Alabama seemed
to go to the Bay and everybody from Louisiana seemed.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
To go to La. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
For everybody I talk to, where's your grandma or from?
That's kind of in a nutshell, seems to.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Me how because my family is from Alabama.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
You're the odd man out. Yep.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You got all my people, other people, all my other
family members from Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
But so my point I'm saying is is like I
almost let them change me up. This is when you
double down. It was God testing me. Where's my seatbelt?
At Pete? That was God testing me.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Man, You're from the Watts Coast.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Now that's it, dirty square blocks hot on niggas.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I need that vest Now, Pete, can you give me
that Teflone vests hot? Triple down man, the ride about
to get a ride for real?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Triple down on these boys. I gotta look out the
door when I walk out.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Now, film me tripled down on these boys, man, because
what this shit would fall apart if I'm not here.
The niggas feel like he ain't got nothing to lose, Peete, No, No,
The problem is I got everything to lose by by
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what's stepping away or by letting it happen without me,
because they don't know what they're doing. They don't know
the story when when the United States of America try
to separate, they don't understand what it is.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
To preserve the nation of hip hop.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
They didn't study why Lincoln was fighting the war. Most
of these people thought Lincoln was fighting the world with slavery.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That was a byproduct. They think I'm fighting this war
over my homeboy, dot. I don't need my mother fucking
help fighting no motherfucking war. Nigga, Nigga, we trained in
the same fields. So it's not the representation of hip
hop right now. So that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
No one person can it only could be a culture thing.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But people are trying to make it look like it's
one thing. No, they don't know. Okay, they just don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Everybody thinks the West would step up, but they don't
understand quite how to do it. Like even in this
last battle that just happened, it's kind of royal rumble
for a lack of better terms. It was like people
thought that they can rap, and that's how you compete
with New York. No, you don't win a battle by
out rapping somebody. You win a battle by out west
coasting somebody. So if you want to win a battle,
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you don't win a battle by being the most lyrical rapper.
You win a battle by being the most cultural phenom.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
That's the only way to beat the West Coast.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
No, that's how you win a hip hop battle.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Period.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
When you listen to a mc shan the Bridge and
you listen to the Bridges over kr r rest one
wasn't kicking the hypest, dopest lyrics.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
He could wrap his ass off.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Then that nigga was just such a nasty BX nigga.
That shit was fire that beat, you know what I mean?
Like that nigga wasn't emcy and it's ada man that
nigga was down there using melody through the whole song.
But guess what that's real BX shit when Tupac Drop
hit him up. That shit ain't just about no lyrics, nigga.
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That's passion that nigga put. He galvanized the West and
was just trunk of that w Nigga is how we
do it over here. These niggas be trying to out
rap niggas the wires that's gonna come out. Your moth
is gonna come out. You ain't gotta worry about that.
If your intellecting, you've been in the books, your pin
gonna bleed, feel me, But you got to bring the culture.
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Like when Dot told that nigga and Euphoria, he's Terrors Thornton. No,
he's Terres Crawford. No, he said he's Terce Thornton. I'm
Terrence Crawford. I'm whooping feet. Niggas didn't even know what
he was talking about, but it sounded so fucking crapy.
I knew what he meant. Pete, know what he meant.
This is how we talked. I whooped that nigga feet.
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That's how you do this thing. Called hip hop.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You bring in the flavor.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You can't make Mexican tacos like Mexican people.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
What these niggas tried to do in the battle. They
tried to make Mexican tacos like Mexican people. You not
Mexican playboy fry that shell sprown that meet up?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Is that what you're kind of mad at.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I'm mad because I'm trying to pass on the wisdom
and the information from the Ice Cubes, the Snoop Doggs,
the Doctor Dre's, the Nipsey Hustle, and all of my constituents,
or not just my peers, but the niggas who I
took the information from from Eric and he's e and everybody,
and I'm trying to disseminate it across all of us.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
That was one of those things like that example, like
the the strategic authenticity of identity. Like ya, I'm a
college football nerd. So probably fifteen years ago now when
Oregon had Chip Kelly there and danthy Thomas, when Crenshaw
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was up there.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And they were like.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Hyper speed, like they're snapping the ball in two seconds.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
R PO. All this shit.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
This is just like a circus, you know, they're just
they're gonna go We're gonna go score seventy.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Everybody else was like like laying Kippens at USC.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
We're gonna we're gonna up our tempo.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
We're gonna up Everyone want to up their tempo to
try to do what Oregon was doing.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
And but that's what Oregon does.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
You aren't gonna just show up and decide to do
that one week and beat them at their own game.
The only person that beat them was Jim Harbott Stanford,
who goes, oh, you're gonna do that. I'm gonna put
nine offensive linemen on the field, we're gonna hold the
ball for an hour.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
We're gonna go nowhere, and you're gonna lose.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
And he was the only one that could beat them
because he did his shit his way, as he does it,
as he's best at it.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
And social media has created more of a copycat like
we already was on copy cat existence as humans. I
watched the NBA, everybody copying like I told him, I
made so much money off Coach on Coach Will because
he thought the Celtius was gonna win because he's looking
at the ratings. I'm like, bro, they're not the fucking warriors.
Step is an all time great offensive phenom and.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
A great shooter. They don't have that. I don't care
what their ratings is.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And it's so hard because people just looking at instant
success and gratification and shit and thinking.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I'm like, this is real and I get it. So
I know my position is to preserve.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Hip hop. That's what I'm on. So I'm passing information.
But it's like people trying to tell me and ain't
did none of the homework. Like I'm arguing with the
motherfucker about what's this a bion who I'm arguing with
a boy many am i Homie Jayu for about twenty
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minutes and I started to get mad.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I was like, man, I'm not off inna hang up.
So all victims are civilians to them, First of all,
gangsters can be victims. Well that's what I'm saying, but
first off saying to them, it's all victims civilians to him,
it's first off, look.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
They would perceive it as a gangster cannot be a victim.
A gangster can only lose a contest, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Victims is giving absolving people of their responsibility when you
say they are victim.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, but you know what I.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Like, I'm on the gangster. I can go outside if
somebody can hit me, what they care. I didn't deserve it.
I don't even know this motherfucker.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
But then you're the victim of a hit and run.
You're not like a lifestyle victim. You're a pedastrian victim.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, I'm saying that's the same thing, and could cut situation.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
He's not a victim.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
You fucked this nigga old lady after he introduced you
to her. Oh I thought they broke up. No, you
fucking didn't. And even if you did, he introduced you
to her to do some music. Raggedy piece of ship
your male code, so you can't he girl, No, he
fucked Cassie after did he introduced him?
Speaker 5 (39:24):
But isn't that what Diddy's thing is? Doesn't everybody fuck
Cassie after he didn't pay?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
You didn't get paid for this. He wasn't there to
watch it, or he didn't want you to do it.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Nobody there wasn't an exhibitionist voyeurs.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yes, you know you can sexually saw the prostitute. So
even somebody like Diddy that's a swinger can be cheated
on swingers can cheat. Yeah, so, and and I don't
give to I'm just saying, you're not a victim if
he burns your fucking car.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
So you can't be a victim when you tho the first.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Punch and the man said come home, come, that's the
first buff And.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I think was wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
People think I'm defending people think i'm I don't need
to defend it. He hired a bunch of rich ass lawyers.
What I'm saying is I want fair treatment for him,
and I still expect. I don't care if it's the
scum of the fucking earth. Treat brothers fair. I never
had to say, treat a white man fair. They don't
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get fair treatment. Treat a brother fair.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
You know what the government showing puff how rich he not?
You ain't that rich. You get out of jail, nigga
fifty million and the house that's worth fifty like now
you can sit there. That ain't enough money. He ain't
kill nobody, can't get out, not a soul. That's crazy,
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that's nuts.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Motherfuckers get out on murder charges, killing people all the time.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You can't get out with fuck a hundred million dollars.
Fucking a voucher. Shit, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So man, I just realize it, and I just realize
on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I am not letting up. I'm going to triple down.
You think they're going after all the rich black people
now getting their money back. No, niggas keep thinking money
make them white. Oh, so they go after all the
ones that think money make them white.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Man, Because you can't just do anything. If you start
playing with some money, money gonna show you how much money.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
You don't got. Don't get me wrong, Puff is.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Obviously it looks like he did. I mean shit, for sure,
he's guilty. He's guilty of assualt or abuse for sure.
He's probably guilty of buying drugs for sure. He looked
like he's buying some pussy for sure. It looks like that.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So I'm not saying Puff shouldn't be fighting charges. I'm
just saying, come on, man, he's not John Gott. You
don't try to make can tell I get it how
we can spend the letter to the law and oh god,
he's not that. Just come on, man, this man should
be fighting probably eight to fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Why the fuck is he fighting life? Life? This is
his first offense. Life the first offense. He shouldn't be
fighting all him to be charged his first offense.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Even I think that's cool. Whatever whatever the government pulled out,
come on life. Puff ain't a life candidate, no nothing.
If that's emarentially doesn't fuck with you. I'm going to
realize so many people he.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Was like you defending that pedalpon like pedop. They don't
have no idea of the case. They call them, they
called swe They was talking about Art Kelly to you, and.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
They was talking about Puff because they had to deal
with all us Bieber Bieber rumors.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Oh justin bieber stuff, a bunch of crazy stuff should
Again it's not exactly in charge with it. Yeah, and
that's not necessarily Again, I don't know nothing about that,
but it's just crazy how people feel so compelled. But
it goes back to that same thing. I'm saying, we're.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
In the biggest copycat part of life that we've ever
been in because of social media. And then there's still one.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Nigga like, yeah, no, I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I'm not going. And it's funny people, I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
You that when you can be a stockbroker and and
and do cocaine, you're still a. So that means that
person could tell the police on that.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
No he can't. Not on this dealer, he can't tell
the police on nobody. Somebody mugged you for your cocaine.
You can tell the police. Oh these crazy motherfuckers that
tell the police and they get robbed for drugs. I
think you see them stories.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Yeah, but they're on drugs.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
They think they civilians. Still look, they still think they
civilians could call the police. Holy soa they not? You
got what taking your cocaine? Robbed you and gave you
this fake dope? Oh look at this. Take this, take
you in with.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Description and you're going in for fake dope? What that
cocaine look like? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
That shit be real people crazy like that though. I
understand what you're saying, but yeah, you gotta double down
on what you believe in and.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
What you're passionate about.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And if this is what you're passionate about, this shit
we go all the way to the top with this.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Man, I don't got it.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
God has done something in our lives. I've been able
to preserve long enough to still have.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Cultural cachet in social relevance. It is not to trade
it in Now, what're you gonna trade it in for money?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Whatever? People trade in for shit all the time. But
we all about you.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
If you don't double down on hip hop, what was
you go trade the other side on?
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
What was you gonna do? No, no, you're gonna stop
talking about hip hop? What was you gonna stop? You
know what? What was you gonna do? I could party
like all the rest of these niggas.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I don't think that's the I don't think If you nah,
I agree, don't don't.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Don't even try to put that in people's mind.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
I think that every journey is unique. Yeah, So I'm
not trying to put that in people mind. I'm just
saying you can there's ways to get somewhere faster.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
But I tell you what, like, if.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I didn't take the time to learn this, I'd have
been done because it's no way possible.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
People was going to fuck with me at that way because.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Like like like like party like part. So you don't
get and like you said about your friends, maybe they
stop hanging out with me because they was doing mally
and I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
You know, I understand that cost. Remember that builds bonds.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Sitting there drinking with niggas and yeah, partying and doing
the shit, and that builds bonds.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Our bonds are built in sober, mean.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Right, we build bond sober like me and pun bond
come from. I noticed he was a brother just like me,
no younger, but he was caught up in the streets,
and I can see what was gonna happen to him,
the same thing that was happening to me, you know
what I'm saying. And and I realized I can help
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change his life. I can put him in something that
I could tell he was gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Like Head is different.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Hair was like somebody I could see that was really
technically savvy. He was a thinker. I mean, he always
call himself a nerd. I don't think he is a nerd.
I always say I think Head ain't necessarily even the
smartest motherfucker. He's not the most witty comeback motherfucker. Head
is really intelligent. And Head is unbelievably like technically sad.
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Like he's a geek, you know what I mean, He's
a geek. That motherfucker could figure out some dumb ass
fucking electronics so fast. But that's been my complaint. Like
I just had to really deal with that.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
All week of people challenging your like Satan experience.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Satan giving me the last bit of pushback in my life.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
And you felt like it was pushback, yeah, because it
was coming through people that mattered to me. Oh okay, okay,
that's the key thing. Okay okay.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I saw Gina put some stuff online that was a
back chand that I was telling Sally and my hand
retweeted it, and I got offended. I'm like, why would
you double down if you know I said this? To
realize he didn't know that she was talking to me.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
And Tea thought me, like, you know, I ain't numb
but love in my heart.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
We did something that was talking about you, retweeted those
talk about you, and then like I'm listening like the
puff shit all this ship for They're my partners. They
making jokes because I'm confiding in them about how I
felt in these vulnerable moments, and everybody pushes the internet
challenging me on this particular thing, knowing this is my
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motherfucking specialty. Nigg We're not talking about making no piece
of nigga. We ain't talking about making no forgetting nigga.
This is what I do nigga. I'm a thug nigga.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
I've been thinking this stuff ship this whole time, created.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Jack questioning my homies right now, you feel me like
questioning niggas right now, getting baby games to getting the history.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Right now, like come on, man. So it's like this
was Satan giving me the greatest.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Pushback I've had in a very long time. Been a
very long time.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
So you think this is what's gonna build you another
solid foundation from this point on. I already we've already
built the foundation.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Like I got Peepe right here to help them with
the economic parts. I got you right here to help
with the emotions and make sure I keep my mind together.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
I got the right people, my homie don dub different people.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I got the right people. That's I'm building it, feel me.
So it really came down. It was like a tough week.
I could feel my spirit being torn at Peep all week.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Oh yeah, Pete, don't know you cuss me out? Huh
you didn't know?
Speaker 2 (49:57):
You caught me up, punk ass, Pete, because I said,
were my shrimp?
Speaker 5 (50:01):
Is that Tacomba is not part of the West Coast?
Speaker 1 (50:06):
No, I told him. I just told you, I'll get
you some shit. He told me. No, Hey, Pete, he
had a rough week. Pete. I was testing the waters
and the water was on.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
So I believe we've been going to some toy ship
this week because he's been on edge, you know.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
But you feel better now. You've got to figure it
out a little bit that this is where you know.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I don't feel better, I know better. Okay, I don't
think I am, I know I am.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Okay, okay, So you got some clarity, not even clarity,
but what's the word. What's the word I'll be looking for?
Come on, Pete, this is where you jump in.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
I was preoccupied with the idea that this is perhaps
ten years of Twitter trollery all coming right back at you.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
It's crazy. That's not what other people think.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
They really think I'd be joking, They really kid cutting
is not as at people think you're a big troll.
That's because they're not thinking or even giving context to
something that's a run on idea that I'm saying. Or
maybe because you always have a comment to what people say,
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like you never not have words for something. I don't know.
They think they may think that because you you will
respond to everybody only if you're talking about what I'm
talking about it. If you talk to me about Trump, I
don't got nothing to say. Really, straight up.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
I don't know what the fucking saying. They start talking
about tears and ship, I'm like, I don't know that's
you come in, Pete. I was come about to ask
you a question earlier. Too. Reminded me of my one
of my favorite movies, Negotiating, Yeah, where you come in, Pete?
Where you come in? That Roman?
Speaker 5 (52:12):
That's uh, that was what the Samuel when he's locked
himself in the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
But no, I see what you're saying, though. I understand
what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Because it is getting a real heated moment in the
soul called street urban culture versus hip hop.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
And that's what it seems like now, not versus, but
it seems like it is. It seems like it is
now versus mainstream America.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
You know, mainstream now think they're either street or hip hop.
Mainstream believes that, And that's what I'm saying. It's the
main stream to tell them then, tell them they're not
hip hop, they're not street, they're mainstream. You're not street,
(53:00):
your mainstream. I keep telling them that. But maybe we
should stop using the worst civilian because that's confusing people.
The worst civilians being misused in all aspects.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
I don't think that's the issue.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
It doesn't mean Yes, there's not a word that you
could find that they wouldn't misuse.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
In this context.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Say that again, Pete.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
There's not a word you could find that they wouldn't
misused in this context because it's rooted in an identity crisis.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yes, so go back to mainstream.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
Like you said, they don't want but they don't want
to be mainstream. They want to be part of They
want to be part of the group.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Like you said, force her back to mainstream. You can't.
That's why you have to constantly you're doubling down. You're
trickling down. You can't. That's not before stand back nowhere.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
It's just going to take us back to the original
days of hip.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Hop and they'll be come back to mainstream.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
They may not say it, but they're gonna be mainstream.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
They won't say hip hop and street, They for sure
gonna say that. I don't want to do that. Now.
When you get done. Now, when you get.
Speaker 6 (54:08):
Done doubling down, applications and ship have to turn in background.
Speaker 4 (54:15):
Those are type people.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
They won't go mainstream until the cops show up, you know,
then they're gonna tell on your ends.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Now it's nazi why Trump is doing what's that thank
you ding about undocumented birth.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Rights and ship Now that's starting to make sense.
Speaker 4 (54:32):
Man, that's about fucking eighty years too late. They made.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Commercial.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
There was a maybe and she was like, Trump is
making sure our borders the same. So if you're here illegally,
you should leave now, maybe will let you back. But
if you don't, we're gonna catch you. We're gonna we're
gonna find you, wanna catch you, get rid of you,
and you'll never be able to come back.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
And that's a commercial they're doing the OKI though, Hu,
the little white lady talking the little school teachers, the
little school teacher talking to you. She said, now if
you may, you may be able to come back. That's funny.
I wonder how many families saw that commercial. A lot,
(55:20):
a lot.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
If they mother, there was several thousand, like they they
docked like.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Some number.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
It was in the thousands. That wasn't in the like millions.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
People that left them on their own.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Yeah, people who like self deported so they could refile.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. People did. They left, People
actually left.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
But if you mean they did that and they be
able to come back and they came back, you don't.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
We won't find you. We will.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, it was like this Trump funny bro like, I
don't know enough about politics.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
That's why I argue about pot I only know about
humans and funny shit.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
Because politicians about emotion. It shouldn't be but Lee, it's
about making somebody feel good, and somebody's gonna feel bad
at that expense. Yeah, that's politics, and I don't play
politics good. I'm not great at making people feel good
and other people like man, I'm just gonna put on
for this particular culture that I am the best, that
(56:24):
IM gonna be the voice of this culture. Then I'm
gonna keep it moving.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
He doesn't make the culture happy with you.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Sometimes cultures jay Z always gonna be happy with me
ninety of the time, ninety nine percent of the time,
because no man should be happy with one hundred percent
of the time.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
Nless you sucking dick.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Well that took the conversations.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
No, I keep thinking it's true because if you feel yourself,
you think to yourself. Man, Glass don't never made me
look like a sucker. That's the best I can give you.
The best I can give.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
You call me a punk ast So that ship already
did that. That's not to say you're a pump. That
was an action. That was an adjective to describe action.
I just I just lacked self work right now, I
don't give a fuck talking about Yeah, I just I
(57:19):
lacked self work because I just don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
It was a It was a I told King man,
I'm gonna get you something. I wanted him to try.
So that's a big part of the story because I
was kind of looking to go get him. He's like, man, man,
you had something of you that.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
I'm like, Man, I'm gonna get you something now. Man,
if you got something, pee it was my fault.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
P I started the whole bullshit because I eve dropped
on a fucking conversation that.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
There was a conversation was hading. I eve dropped, like,
damn nigga, I can't get nothing nigg eat.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
And that's how it started because I eave dropped. So
I took the punk ass ass. That's what I get
for eavesdropping.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
This is why you can't talk what. I can't be
the victim.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Because I'm throwing out my heart and telling the truth
and taking accountability and stuff.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
That's how I become the victim. Taking accountability. Oh don't work.
Speaker 4 (58:18):
Oh yeah, victim is not taking accountability.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
Well, Peter, I'll go back to being a punk ass.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
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Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah.
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
And welcome back to another episode of No Sealer's Podcast
with your host.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Now fuck that with your low glasses, Malone.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Pet dog, what's the deal.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
You tell me?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I've been setting up.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
My most monumental press run ever, like I finally understood how.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
To use Twitter, Cool, Instagram.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
No, I'm I'm waiting all the mics right there. That's funny.
You know what Mike you're speaking into Okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
He's holding a press conference, we're doing a podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You looks like he's about to go fight. Lennox Lewis
had a crazy thought on Way Conflict tweeted. He was
saying how Twitter was like a place where people would
unfollow you.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
If they don't agree with you, Okay, And.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Then I saw somebody today saying to me, oh, well,
blasts you know he lost he losing uh the respect
he got from the Kendrick followers or something. And I
thought to myself, like, I don't think it hit people
yet that I'm not fucking playing.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
See, I think.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Everybody be on Twitter playing, or everybody on Twitter trying
to convince you or something, or everybody on Twitter trying
to sell you something.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Where would you be losing Kendrick followers. What you do
after the battle battle Drake and Kendrick battle, you would
have lost Kendrick fans.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, people felt a lot of people I think started
following me. I don't know, because I don't really stare
in my Twitter. I can't see what you were saying
that would make them think you lost you know, Kendrick fans.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So Drake fans makes sense. Well, so what they feel
is so I think.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think there's a moral standing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay that maybe people that support dot has like a
moral standing. They feel like they're a bit morally righteous
compared to other people. It's kind of a running joke
that you will see online about like you know, the
homie fan base, but where they feel like that they're
(02:45):
morally superior. Honestly, they're morally inferior to me. So it's like,
let's say, take for R Kelly, for example, I'll be
screaming about R Kelly getting fair treatment. They'll go into
an emotional space of talking about who he slept with
or so so forth a song I don't give a
fuck what he did morally, I wanted him to be
(03:07):
treated correctly based off the spirit of the laws that he's.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Being charged with. Okay, so I'm not saying free R.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Kelly. I'm saying R.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Kelly doesn't deserve thirty five years in prison.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
They're trying to look morally superiors, like I don't care
what happened to him.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
He married a Leah. I don't care what happened to him.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I saw the TV show and I'm like, well, I
don't care about him for real, but he's a brother
and I truly want him to have fair treatment in America.
That's the most morally upstanding thing you could do as
a black man in America.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So you think that's Kendrick's fans is now morally.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, I think they're challenging me morally or different people
and they don't realize what my morals stand. I think
in their mind they can't because they're so busy trying
to again market to Twitter or to followings, that they're
not being real black people or real humans.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
This is exactly exactly where we left off on the
previous show, like the teaser.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That's crazy. No, we got off the last time.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
ILL said people seeing like, you know, some pedophile gets
stabbed one hundred times of prisoners. They're like, yeah, you
should be stabbed, you should be killed. It should be
little on a fire like you know, all the stuff,
and people just one up each other to try to
posture moral superiority as saying, if you don't think that
this person deserves all the worst as much as I do,
then you must agree with them, and you're a piece
of ship person. And that's where we left off, and
(04:43):
this is where we picked up today. So if you
listen to them straight through, it's like a commercial break,
it's nothing ranks.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So and then there's been this thing with Diddy, so
will this is no Sillings podcast. Okay, not streamed the podcast,
This ain't the lunch shower. My brother Pete Dog and
the house Glasses Loch got my big brother Cang up
in his spang. So I was talking about Diddy. So
(05:17):
the whole thing with kid cutting, we talked about it
on the stream, but just to get Pete up to date,
I had a conversation where I was telling Justin Hunt
and a couple other brothers, some really dope brothers in
the hip hop's face. Curtis King, Wayne O, big fan
of Wayno a brother that does a TV show this network.
(05:42):
Have you ever seen the show with the brat he has.
I think people pretty much watching that show got to
figure out how to get on there.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But he's a brother on that show. I can't remember
his name.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It was a couple of dope brothers, and I was
explaining to them that a lot of things that were
considering hip hop, they're not quite hip hop.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Like Cuddy.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Uzzy Travis, I don't think they're making hip hop. I
think they're making modern rock music, right like the original
people who made rock music. I'm listening to the energy
and I can separate. I can hear there's something different.
And it's not because their music sounds different. The energy
is different.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
These aren't hip hop records. These are commercial rap tunes.
M like my Man, my Man, switch up tips a
little bit there. So I was telling them, like, so,
I wouldn't expect them.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
To abide by the same cultural ideas because I think
their music is rock music. Travis calls his music raise music.
Uzzi calls himself a rock star, and I think it's obvious.
But people have been arguing with me. I ask this
question now, because they do that kind of music, could
they have still been raised up hip hop? But you
(07:03):
don't get raised up hip hop, right, you get raised
up in street, urban ideas or culture. Okay, but that's
the same ideas that birth rock music to some degree.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it's really the same.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Idea that to some degree birth jazz.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So street urban culture birth all these different musics.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Not necessarily because I don't think the street or the
urban part had necessarily been established it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I mean some places.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I mean, I don't think blues blues is more of
a rural thing.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, blues is because they had to move from one
area together in the sadness of.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
That, and rural though, you know, I mean it's more rural,
it's not urban. It's not dinsally populated. But it was
going for the country to the city, and that was
the blues because they was leaving the country and being
forced to the city.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Sure, that's where the blues started. I mean with that too.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So I'm saying I think the experience of this country
generates all music. But I noticed when I would hear
Travis's songs, even stuff with rappers or other hip hop acts,
I would notice it was always a different energy. It
was an enjoyable energy. This Nigga makes fantastic records. But
I'm like, this is different. Then I saw his concerts,
(08:12):
I'm like, man, this is different. And I was able
to identify, based off of my studies and my creativity
in my mind to say like, oh, this is modern
rock music. It's a modern take on the same energy.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
That created rock music. Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Obviously everybody gets mad. Oh glasses, you know, fucked all
of my studies everything. I just get cut he Street.
I'm not sure he's from Shaker Heights in Cleveland, because
I think if we say street then it still goes
under due, you know, rat and stuff like that. But
if he's not even street, but that's different. But Rat
(08:54):
don't got nothing to do. Rat existed before streets. Rat
Yeah with cowboys. Yeah, Rat existed in Europe. You know
what I'm said. So it's like, that's not the point.
I don't think I ever got into calling Kid Cutty
a rat or not.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What I realized was when I put again the point
was I was saying. The joke was after people fought
me back. Let's see if Kid Cutt he keeps it
hip hop tomorrow in court. Remember that people got mad
on Twitter talk shit that ended up being it's really viralty.
It's like twenty plus million impressions, right, which I'm we're
(09:39):
trying to figure how to get three million for the video,
and we got twenty million on a simple ass joke.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I don't know what keeping it hip hop mean.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Because that's really just I think hip hop is the
street urban culture expression. The artistic expression of street urban
culture's not really bound. It's the expression of street urban
culture in this particular style of form. So I let
people just go off, and I'm like, people kept saying
he was a civilian.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I noticed that, and it was a weird.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Like racial undertone where it was like, oh, you know,
he not a street nigga, Like almost as if they
thought street niggas created the idea of snitching or like
that's something to do with games or streets. And it
hit me last night and this morning. Kid Cutty is
(10:31):
a dope fiend, right How how I mean is that
what people say is just through That's kind of his brand, Okay,
the stoner that does cocaine and peels and sad and
he grew up in Shaker Heights in Cleveland, Okay, which
(10:53):
is hard to not huh, he's.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Kind of in the same world in that regard as
the other dude from uh Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Right, Whiz, Yeah, yeah, Whiz is a little bit closer
to just standard urban culture, you know what I mean.
Cutty Leans a little bit further away, but it's close enough.
You know, both of them have an impression when it
comes to Black people in America, like they're not their
music whatever it is, it's not far away from black
(11:22):
Black people still enjoy kid cutting and whiskyly sure, sure,
I mean, and I'm talking about regular black people from
like where I'm from, because even black people are like anybody,
but they're not like I know some people in the
hood that still play Kid Cutty or whiskey. They not
like they're not that far apart, you know what I mean. Again,
they have a way with rock music, you know what
I mean. Where again it's like I would have Magie
(11:43):
Street people was playing a little Richard at one time,
Chuck Berry. So I'm like, he's a drug addict, Like
he's not a civilian. Like if you procure illegal drugs
and you abuse those substances, you are not a civilian.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
No, it's juicy j right, So I'm like Joe hit
me to them.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I'm like, wait a minute, this guy.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And then people like, well, you could be a drug
addict and you could buy cocaine and be you'll be
a drug addict and still be a civilian.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I'm like, no, you can't. Oh, yes you can.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know, I said, so can a dealer be a civilian?
Well that's different. I'm like, well, how is it different?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
I want to know if any of those people have
ever bought drugs from somebody outside of a house party
with their friends in their life ever.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So people just hitting me and I'm like, and it's
even some people I respect, my homeboy black trade. Gee,
I'm like, bro, you're not a civilian if you are
if you abuse a legal substance because you're buying, you
you're committing a crime to purchase, right and then you're
committing a crime by doing it. That means you would
(13:14):
be a part of the same cycle as the dealer.
So the expectations of of of underworld behavior criminal codes
still falls on you, right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, breaking the law regardless.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You gonna get strung out and do some more illegal
ship because you're.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Strung that should push you.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's like a fence and a flocker, a person who
buys and and you know who launders stolen goods for
money and the person who burglarizes house. A flocker and
a fence, same criminal cycle. A prostitute and a john
the same criminal cycle. A fiend and a dealer, same criminals.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
You know that this is again the USA has such
a bizarre crossroads between who's the victim and who's the
evil doer. The drug dealer is the evil doer. The
drug consumer is the victim. But you go three blocks
(14:23):
down to the track and the prostitute, who is the
salesperson in this is the victim and the buyers now
the fucking evil doer d we can't get it straight.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Him then is also the evil doer.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's true, he's the dealer again.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And so watching all these comments come to my Twitter,
and a lot of times I use my Twitter like
a media press line, like I've really been able to
figure out a lot of branding, creating really deep conversations,
never trolling, but really ideals. And I know they're gonna
take those tweets and those will be the things. When
(15:09):
it's when I dropped the single on June tenth that
people are going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So now I have my part.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I'll have my publicist, Mighty send them out to people
as different talking points.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
If you can use these, these.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Will create conversations that will galvanize your audience.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So I'm like, that's how deep I am. Now I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So to make a long story short, I just looked
at and I noticed this weird racial undertone where I
think they think this ship is started by black people
in America, that what started all of these kind of
(15:54):
concepts of of of of morality. When it comes to crime,
I think they think it's some kind of exclusive things
they like glasses, Well, it's it's stockbrokers who buy cocaine.
It's I'm like, it's stockbrokers say cocaine. Are they they
they're not civilians. I'm like, Oh, you don't see how
(16:17):
ridiculously racist that sounds.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Like people love to do two things, like several things.
But they're really good for creating these like white caricature
archetype figures. They're great at that, and then they're great
at claiming steak to what's the thing when you invent something,
(16:42):
to patents of anything. But like by black people. That's
negative that pre existed them. I should They'll just steak
a patent license down like they thought. Omerta was like
some big girl from three blocks over.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And I had a question, right, So the dude was
I don't thinking to myself like, y'all don't hear how
ridiculously racist this sounds. And race is not in the
oppression sense, but in the you see somebody else that's
just inferior or someone that superior the simple definition. I'm like,
so it's John Gotty, a street nigga.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I mean no, I used to wear suits. I'm like,
what the court.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
That's the other funny thing we talked about last time too.
When you see the Surveilus videos, they're in Adidas jumpsuits.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Like run DMC. They only wear suits the fucking court.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
They don't get that's where run DMC got it from.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's the crazy part.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'll be like, because this has been my point, Pete,
I've been saying for years now. I'm not taking nothing
from black people. Don't get me wrong. Yes, black people
in the Bronx were the centerpiece of hip hop, but
hip hop hisself is not black. It's streaked urban, right,
So that's why you can have some people from Latin
(18:06):
American countries, some white folks at the center. That's the
reason why some of these people name themselves after white
people that were lures in street urban culture.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Like you know you hear.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
So who you k who the first young JEZU was?
Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I'm not mad at that thought. Wow, really, if.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Jez had Meach, Frank had Columbum, Gambito, whoever, whichever one
of those people he was fucking with.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
This is nothing new, But for some reason in America
it looks Pete.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I get it. Bro.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I couldn't imagine being a white man in America and
you having to hear niggas complain about racism.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Would it be almost like fuck?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
So, y'all really don't have no idea white folks be
on this ship.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Well, who are the people making the common so they
black or white people?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
They get black? Oh, it'd be shit. I mean, at
least their profile picture be black. But I'm talking conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But but I'm gonna tell you why is different. And
this is another thing that bothers me. Now, this is
a little different than racist. It's worse than racism when
black people feel like they inherently understand what's going on
with street, urban culture or any level of criminality, when
they don't know nothing, but because they listen to some
rap songs and have Google.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Like, people send me googles of a civilian. I'm like,
what you mean the definition? Yes, And I'm like, you
can't google.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Like you can google street urban terms or terms that
were birthed in in the underworld, but it might.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Not necessarily be as accurate as you would imagine.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So they was like a civilian, and I hear a
lot of people running around this narrative. Civilians are not people.
That's not gang bangers. That's not true. Anybody participating in
the cycle of consistently is.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Not a civilian.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Now, look, it's like the car we're not talking about you.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
If if you're a mercenary in the military, you're not
a civilian. You aren't enlisted, yes, but you're not a civilian.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And if you're and if you're a fucking doctor and
then armitage in the army, you're not a civilian.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Military people. I thought brann't civilian.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
No more so, I think they're confusing gangs with under me. No, no,
are you supposed.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
To not kill the medical people in the field. That's
why they always mark themselves, and you're supposed to like.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Not sure, but they're not civilians. That's just a code
of behavior. Sure, they are very much a part.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Of They're not finna go help if if the United
States is fighting the French, they're not gonna go help
the Frenchmen.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
All got to help their own peoples. They in the middle.
Like so, but a dude, like you know, and it's
so many smart asses.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I hate that there's no real documents because I don't
think people would argue with a doctor about.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Fucking ankle surgery.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But it's like somebody said, Glasses, well what about jaywalking?
I'm like, that's a traffic infraction.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It's not a crime. But you know what I'm saying.
I'm like, no, you don't know what you're saying, Cuz like,
why do y'all?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And I'm telling Jayu and Manny today I'm talking to them.
It's like everybody I know just wants to fucking argue
with me. We're seeing some ship one plus when he
go to I don't know, glasses, you know you can
get seven oro, Why are you wasting my time.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know me, Mike that you know a hard rule
is for me. Now.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
As soon as I hear a sudden start with what about.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'm done? Well, what about? That's it?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I am focused on something else. You're just they're talking
to yourself at that point?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
What about?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
And I'm out?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
They almost robbed me up my joy this week. This
has been a hard week for me. All this week.
I realized why Puff never really fucked with me, all
the way he said, I down party like him. I
know what he means now. I didn't quite know what
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he meant. I get why a lot of people didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Really. They have to be motivated by your lifestyle. It
ain't just about you're a good person. I'm to help you.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It was like, no, we have some kind of connection,
even my own friends. I confront the problem with puns
like I remember y'all was on that Molley shit. Is
that why y'all stop trying to help me and hang
out with me?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oh? I swear to God because we're friends like that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And if I can ain't coming to you and give
you my honest opinion, nigga, we not friends and I
would know that right now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Nigga, that way, we ain't friends. So they said, what
was the answer.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
No, you talk to us like we were smokers. I'm like,
that's not what I said. That's your fucking conscious. I'm
not treating you like you not shit. I'm asking you
a fucking question that meant something to me. Nigga, did
y'all stop fucking with me and we stop hanging because
I don't fucking do drugs. Man, I'm not even gonna
answer that. Yes, you motherfuckers did. So that was something
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else then I was talking. It was a it was
a fake ass rat battle happening. And I'm trying to
keep the West together because I understand how hip hop,
especially the origin New York of hip hop, uses media
to build their own narratives for their own support. And
now I started to galvanize people on the West and Hey,
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call the people, Hey make sure y'all know what they're doing.
Don't let these people use you. People got mad and
start talking shit, and I'm like, ain't this a bitch?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Then, faby mster Fab is my nigga, like my brother?
That's really it's somebody I think like this nigga, my brother.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Like it was a situations while I was ready to
kill over faby here in La. And when the battle
was happening, why Dad and them starts saying we to
West Coach, were from Oakland and all the barrier niggas
start doing this whole shit, and I'm like, what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Are y'all doing? Nigga that says the West nigga or
the other people.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
We don't give a fuck with other people think nigga
is us nigga forty short hammer nigga. Everybody mean the
same thing. Mess all over mean the same thing to
us as they mean every nobody else here. Nigga don't
know West y'all letting these out of town that y'all
trying to be cool.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
These motherfuckers don't give a fuck about none of us.
So they're trying to divide California and the West Coast. Yes,
it's so fabious.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
In Gwapdad comments when Guapda said that bullshit man I
call Fabyan.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Cuts his ass out.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Why would you say that you're not dumb? That make
me look for sticking up for you a fucking with
you all these years. I'm thinking we the West Coast
and all the time you just on some punk shit
I'm ready to knock a nigga down for forty niggas.
Short y'all trying to tell me this how y'all feel
about us?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And Short be down in LA all the time. Guap
be down here. You guys feel that way, niggah.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So if somebody unp would never say no shit, Short
would never say no shit like that because he no.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But it's the younger niggas who.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Feel like, oh, well, everybody recognize that lay don't recognize us,
so we need to separate, No, nigga, that's when we
need to bond together more. Whatever we got, nigga, we
just sharing. So when they say West Coast, they think
everybody thinks LA. Only when they say West Coast, that's
their thought. And I'm not mad at that. Hollywood is
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in our backyard. It's in the it's in the lost
Southern California's backyard.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So the only reason they know that is because we
have movies.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah, but I never felt like they ever really claimed that,
though I can't remember, like, you know, like even if
you were to go back to like the quote unquote
like East Coast, West Coast, bad Boy death throw things
very LA centric. You know, they've always kind of least
like when I lived up there, it seemed like they're
no offense to the Bay Area people.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Like I. I like the bay It's you know, it's
a cool spot. I like the way they do things.
But they.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
When I'm in LA, we're deaf, dumb, and blind to
what's going on up there.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Most of the time.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
They kind of have a little bit of a little
brother chip on their shoulder, and I feel like, rather
than be the little brother data, we're just gonna change
our last name.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I agree with that people, but they're not the little brother.
The Bay Area is the big brother.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
It's the older brother, but it's the smaller older brother.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's Fredo that the people.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Because black culture, the street urban culture that we're synonymous for,
started in the baby.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, and that's true, but they're Fredo in your mind.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
The first funk ships, it's sliding.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Family's done, Like what the fuck are you talking? Like?
You should be happy? Little brother is shining, So that's like, okay,
see him. Yeah, Short Short is the father.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Of how we started to find hip hop music for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
And he represented West Coast. Yeah. I ain't never really
seen him not represent West Coast like we all do
I'm from Watch, but nigga's the West.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Watch into Los Angeles, the city, not the county for
niggas watched, this is our neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But that's what I said about in the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Look at all the way from Washington, all the way down,
look like they live on the West Coast. Yeah, Like,
I'm from the West coast, West coast, That's what I'm saying.
They say West. Everybody West Portland's West. You know, Vancouver,
Canada is the West.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
But again, but it made me think, like, man, mam,
there was a moment over the last twenty four hours
that I was thinking to myself, You're right, Was I
finna keep ramping the West Coast? Should I keep fucking
with niggas? Should I keep standing up for nigga? Should
I keep trying to give them game?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
And I was thinking myself, like, man, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Fuck that. I'm finna cuss all these niggas ass out
over and over again. Fuck that, nigga. You the West
nigg that's it.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
You almost sound like the the Union trying to reign
in the Confederacy. No, you're not going to not be
part of this gut damn.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I'm linking on these punk.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah niggas trying to spiral off.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Nigga, Nigga, I was should have to sell Selski. I'm
getting Celsie coming. I'm like, y'all better stop letting these.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I go for Lincoln over the g homies. Oh the
jobes for the babe. Nigga, y'all the West, Nigga, ain't
no getting out of the car. Nigga, ain't no getting
Ain't nobody letting you out. Nigga's the West. We're fucking
nobody else, say, nigga, y'all music raised all of us
the same.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Nigga, Nigga, it's the West. Niggain't no getting out. Nigga.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We together, even if y'all don't want to fight right now, Nigga,
we together because if somebody chipping off of y'all, Nigga,
we're going. But you said it's the Bay Area, saying
ain't not from the West. It's not nobody else familiar
saying that it's not because no, but but again, because
the Bay Area is to me, the father of blackness
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on the West coast as far as California goes.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But it has a direct, more direct connection to.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
The east coast in La. No to the south, southeast
to me, south and east. Just like every about to
say Florida in the south, but it's on the east
coast to me. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, saying
yeah yeah, definitely that. But it's like I've always saw that,
you know what I mean. So it just hit me,
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like these niggas like talking to me.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Basically almost to the year I remember what five ten
year difference. A bunch of people basically from Alabama seemed
to go to the Bay and everybody from Louisiana seemed.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
To go to La. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
For everybody I talk to, where's your grandma or from?
That's kind of in a nutshell, seems to.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Me how because my family is from Alabama.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
You're the odd man out. Yep.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You got all my people, other people, all my other
family members from Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
But so my point I'm saying is is like I
almost let them change me up. This is when you
double down. It was God testing me. Where's my seatbelt?
At Pete? That was God testing me.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Man, You're from the Watts Coast.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Now that's it, dirty square blocks hot on niggas.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I need that vest Now, Pete, can you give me
that Teflone vests hot? Triple down man, the ride about
to get a ride for real?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Triple down on these boys. I gotta look out the
door when I walk out.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Now, film me tripled down on these boys, man, because
what this shit would fall apart if I'm not here.
The niggas feel like he ain't got nothing to lose, Peete, No, No,
The problem is I got everything to lose by by
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what's stepping away or by letting it happen without me,
because they don't know what they're doing. They don't know
the story when when the United States of America try
to separate, they don't understand what it is.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
To preserve the nation of hip hop.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
They didn't study why Lincoln was fighting the war. Most
of these people thought Lincoln was fighting the world with slavery.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That was a byproduct. They think I'm fighting this war
over my homeboy, dot. I don't need my mother fucking
help fighting no motherfucking war. Nigga, Nigga, we trained in
the same fields. So it's not the representation of hip
hop right now. So that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
No one person can it only could be a culture thing.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But people are trying to make it look like it's
one thing. No, they don't know. Okay, they just don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Everybody thinks the West would step up, but they don't
understand quite how to do it. Like even in this
last battle that just happened, it's kind of royal rumble
for a lack of better terms. It was like people
thought that they can rap, and that's how you compete
with New York. No, you don't win a battle by
out rapping somebody. You win a battle by out west
coasting somebody. So if you want to win a battle,
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you don't win a battle by being the most lyrical rapper.
You win a battle by being the most cultural phenom.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
That's the only way to beat the West Coast.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
No, that's how you win a hip hop battle.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Period.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
When you listen to a mc shan the Bridge and
you listen to the Bridges over kr r rest one
wasn't kicking the hypest, dopest lyrics.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
He could wrap his ass off.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Then that nigga was just such a nasty BX nigga.
That shit was fire that beat, you know what I mean?
Like that nigga wasn't emcy and it's ada man that
nigga was down there using melody through the whole song.
But guess what that's real BX shit when Tupac Drop
hit him up. That shit ain't just about no lyrics, nigga.
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That's passion that nigga put. He galvanized the West and
was just trunk of that w Nigga is how we
do it over here. These niggas be trying to out
rap niggas the wires that's gonna come out. Your moth
is gonna come out. You ain't gotta worry about that.
If your intellecting, you've been in the books, your pin
gonna bleed, feel me, But you got to bring the culture.
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Like when Dot told that nigga and Euphoria, he's Terrors Thornton. No,
he's Terres Crawford. No, he said he's Terce Thornton. I'm
Terrence Crawford. I'm whooping feet. Niggas didn't even know what
he was talking about, but it sounded so fucking crapy.
I knew what he meant. Pete, know what he meant.
This is how we talked. I whooped that nigga feet.
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That's how you do this thing. Called hip hop.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You bring in the flavor.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You can't make Mexican tacos like Mexican people.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
What these niggas tried to do in the battle. They
tried to make Mexican tacos like Mexican people. You not
Mexican playboy fry that shell sprown that meet up?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Is that what you're kind of mad at.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I'm mad because I'm trying to pass on the wisdom
and the information from the Ice Cubes, the Snoop Doggs,
the Doctor Dre's, the Nipsey Hustle, and all of my constituents,
or not just my peers, but the niggas who I
took the information from from Eric and he's e and everybody,
and I'm trying to disseminate it across all of us.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
That was one of those things like that example, like
the the strategic authenticity of identity. Like ya, I'm a
college football nerd. So probably fifteen years ago now when
Oregon had Chip Kelly there and danthy Thomas, when Crenshaw
(36:18):
was up there.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And they were like.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Hyper speed, like they're snapping the ball in two seconds.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
R PO. All this shit.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
This is just like a circus, you know, they're just
they're gonna go We're gonna go score seventy.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Everybody else was like like laying Kippens at USC.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
We're gonna we're gonna up our tempo.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
We're gonna up Everyone want to up their tempo to
try to do what Oregon was doing.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
And but that's what Oregon does.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
You aren't gonna just show up and decide to do
that one week and beat them at their own game.
The only person that beat them was Jim Harbott Stanford,
who goes, oh, you're gonna do that. I'm gonna put
nine offensive linemen on the field, we're gonna hold the
ball for an hour.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
We're gonna go nowhere, and you're gonna lose.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
And he was the only one that could beat them
because he did his shit his way, as he does it,
as he's best at it.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
And social media has created more of a copycat like
we already was on copy cat existence as humans. I
watched the NBA, everybody copying like I told him, I
made so much money off Coach on Coach Will because
he thought the Celtius was gonna win because he's looking
at the ratings. I'm like, bro, they're not the fucking warriors.
Step is an all time great offensive phenom and.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
A great shooter. They don't have that. I don't care
what their ratings is.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And it's so hard because people just looking at instant
success and gratification and shit and thinking.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I'm like, this is real and I get it. So
I know my position is to preserve.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Hip hop. That's what I'm on. So I'm passing information.
But it's like people trying to tell me and ain't
did none of the homework. Like I'm arguing with the
motherfucker about what's this a bion who I'm arguing with
a boy many am i Homie Jayu for about twenty
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minutes and I started to get mad.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I was like, man, I'm not off inna hang up.
So all victims are civilians to them, First of all,
gangsters can be victims. Well that's what I'm saying, but
first off saying to them, it's all victims civilians to him,
it's first off, look.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
They would perceive it as a gangster cannot be a victim.
A gangster can only lose a contest, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Victims is giving absolving people of their responsibility when you
say they are victim.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, but you know what I.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Like, I'm on the gangster. I can go outside if
somebody can hit me, what they care. I didn't deserve it.
I don't even know this motherfucker.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
But then you're the victim of a hit and run.
You're not like a lifestyle victim. You're a pedastrian victim.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, I'm saying that's the same thing, and could cut situation.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
He's not a victim.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
You fucked this nigga old lady after he introduced you
to her. Oh I thought they broke up. No, you
fucking didn't. And even if you did, he introduced you
to her to do some music. Raggedy piece of ship
your male code, so you can't he girl, No, he
fucked Cassie after did he introduced him?
Speaker 5 (39:24):
But isn't that what Diddy's thing is? Doesn't everybody fuck
Cassie after he didn't pay?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
You didn't get paid for this. He wasn't there to
watch it, or he didn't want you to do it.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Nobody there wasn't an exhibitionist voyeurs.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yes, you know you can sexually saw the prostitute. So
even somebody like Diddy that's a swinger can be cheated
on swingers can cheat. Yeah, so, and and I don't
give to I'm just saying, you're not a victim if
he burns your fucking car.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
So you can't be a victim when you tho the first.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Punch and the man said come home, come, that's the
first buff And.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I think was wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
People think I'm defending people think i'm I don't need
to defend it. He hired a bunch of rich ass lawyers.
What I'm saying is I want fair treatment for him,
and I still expect. I don't care if it's the
scum of the fucking earth. Treat brothers fair. I never
had to say, treat a white man fair. They don't
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get fair treatment. Treat a brother fair.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
You know what the government showing puff how rich he not?
You ain't that rich. You get out of jail, nigga
fifty million and the house that's worth fifty like now
you can sit there. That ain't enough money. He ain't
kill nobody, can't get out, not a soul. That's crazy,
(40:55):
that's nuts.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Motherfuckers get out on murder charges, killing people all the time.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
You can't get out with fuck a hundred million dollars.
Fucking a voucher. Shit, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So man, I just realize it, and I just realize
on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I am not letting up. I'm going to triple down.
You think they're going after all the rich black people
now getting their money back. No, niggas keep thinking money
make them white. Oh, so they go after all the
ones that think money make them white.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Man, Because you can't just do anything. If you start
playing with some money, money gonna show you how much money.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
You don't got. Don't get me wrong, Puff is.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Obviously it looks like he did. I mean shit, for sure,
he's guilty. He's guilty of assualt or abuse for sure.
He's probably guilty of buying drugs for sure. He looked
like he's buying some pussy for sure. It looks like that.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So I'm not saying Puff shouldn't be fighting charges. I'm
just saying, come on, man, he's not John Gott. You
don't try to make can tell I get it how
we can spend the letter to the law and oh god,
he's not that. Just come on, man, this man should
be fighting probably eight to fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Why the fuck is he fighting life? Life? This is
his first offense. Life the first offense. He shouldn't be
fighting all him to be charged his first offense.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Even I think that's cool. Whatever whatever the government pulled out,
come on life. Puff ain't a life candidate, no nothing.
If that's emarentially doesn't fuck with you. I'm going to
realize so many people he.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Was like you defending that pedalpon like pedop. They don't
have no idea of the case. They call them, they
called swe They was talking about Art Kelly to you, and.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
They was talking about Puff because they had to deal
with all us Bieber Bieber rumors.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Oh justin bieber stuff, a bunch of crazy stuff should
Again it's not exactly in charge with it. Yeah, and
that's not necessarily Again, I don't know nothing about that,
but it's just crazy how people feel so compelled. But
it goes back to that same thing. I'm saying, we're.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
In the biggest copycat part of life that we've ever
been in because of social media. And then there's still one.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Nigga like, yeah, no, I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I'm not going. And it's funny people, I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
You that when you can be a stockbroker and and
and do cocaine, you're still a. So that means that
person could tell the police on that.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
No he can't. Not on this dealer, he can't tell
the police on nobody. Somebody mugged you for your cocaine.
You can tell the police. Oh these crazy motherfuckers that
tell the police and they get robbed for drugs. I
think you see them stories.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Yeah, but they're on drugs.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
They think they civilians. Still look, they still think they
civilians could call the police. Holy soa they not? You
got what taking your cocaine? Robbed you and gave you
this fake dope? Oh look at this. Take this, take
you in with.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Description and you're going in for fake dope? What that
cocaine look like? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
That shit be real people crazy like that though. I
understand what you're saying, but yeah, you gotta double down
on what you believe in and.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
What you're passionate about.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And if this is what you're passionate about, this shit
we go all the way to the top with this.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Man, I don't got it.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
God has done something in our lives. I've been able
to preserve long enough to still have.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Cultural cachet in social relevance. It is not to trade
it in Now, what're you gonna trade it in for money?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Whatever? People trade in for shit all the time. But
we all about you.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
If you don't double down on hip hop, what was
you go trade the other side on?
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
What was you gonna do? No, no, you're gonna stop
talking about hip hop? What was you gonna stop? You
know what? What was you gonna do? I could party
like all the rest of these niggas.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I don't think that's the I don't think If you nah,
I agree, don't don't.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Don't even try to put that in people's mind.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
I think that every journey is unique. Yeah, So I'm
not trying to put that in people mind. I'm just
saying you can there's ways to get somewhere faster.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
But I tell you what, like, if.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I didn't take the time to learn this, I'd have
been done because it's no way possible.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
People was going to fuck with me at that way because.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Like like like like party like part. So you don't
get and like you said about your friends, maybe they
stop hanging out with me because they was doing mally
and I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
You know, I understand that cost. Remember that builds bonds.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Sitting there drinking with niggas and yeah, partying and doing
the shit, and that builds bonds.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Our bonds are built in sober, mean.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Right, we build bond sober like me and pun bond
come from. I noticed he was a brother just like me,
no younger, but he was caught up in the streets,
and I can see what was gonna happen to him,
the same thing that was happening to me, you know
what I'm saying. And and I realized I can help
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change his life. I can put him in something that
I could tell he was gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Like Head is different.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Hair was like somebody I could see that was really
technically savvy. He was a thinker. I mean, he always
call himself a nerd. I don't think he is a nerd.
I always say I think Head ain't necessarily even the
smartest motherfucker. He's not the most witty comeback motherfucker. Head
is really intelligent. And Head is unbelievably like technically sad.
(47:00):
Like he's a geek, you know what I mean, He's
a geek. That motherfucker could figure out some dumb ass
fucking electronics so fast. But that's been my complaint. Like
I just had to really deal with that.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
All week of people challenging your like Satan experience.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Satan giving me the last bit of pushback in my life.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
And you felt like it was pushback, yeah, because it
was coming through people that mattered to me. Oh okay, okay,
that's the key thing. Okay okay.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I saw Gina put some stuff online that was a
back chand that I was telling Sally and my hand
retweeted it, and I got offended. I'm like, why would
you double down if you know I said this? To
realize he didn't know that she was talking to me.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
And Tea thought me, like, you know, I ain't numb
but love in my heart.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
We did something that was talking about you, retweeted those
talk about you, and then like I'm listening like the
puff shit all this ship for They're my partners. They
making jokes because I'm confiding in them about how I
felt in these vulnerable moments, and everybody pushes the internet
challenging me on this particular thing, knowing this is my
(48:28):
motherfucking specialty. Nigg We're not talking about making no piece
of nigga. We ain't talking about making no forgetting nigga.
This is what I do nigga. I'm a thug nigga.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
I've been thinking this stuff ship this whole time, created.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Jack questioning my homies right now, you feel me like
questioning niggas right now, getting baby games to getting the history.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Right now, like come on, man. So it's like this
was Satan giving me the greatest.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Pushback I've had in a very long time. Been a
very long time.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
So you think this is what's gonna build you another
solid foundation from this point on. I already we've already
built the foundation.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Like I got Peepe right here to help them with
the economic parts. I got you right here to help
with the emotions and make sure I keep my mind together.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
I got the right people, my homie don dub different people.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I got the right people. That's I'm building it, feel me.
So it really came down. It was like a tough week.
I could feel my spirit being torn at Peep all week.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Oh yeah, Pete, don't know you cuss me out? Huh
you didn't know?
Speaker 2 (49:57):
You caught me up, punk ass, Pete, because I said,
were my shrimp?
Speaker 5 (50:01):
Is that Tacomba is not part of the West Coast?
Speaker 1 (50:06):
No, I told him. I just told you, I'll get
you some shit. He told me. No, Hey, Pete, he
had a rough week. Pete. I was testing the waters
and the water was on.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
So I believe we've been going to some toy ship
this week because he's been on edge, you know.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
But you feel better now. You've got to figure it
out a little bit that this is where you know.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I don't feel better, I know better. Okay, I don't
think I am, I know I am.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Okay, okay, So you got some clarity, not even clarity,
but what's the word. What's the word I'll be looking for?
Come on, Pete, this is where you jump in.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
I was preoccupied with the idea that this is perhaps
ten years of Twitter trollery all coming right back at you.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
It's crazy. That's not what other people think.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
They really think I'd be joking, They really kid cutting
is not as at people think you're a big troll.
That's because they're not thinking or even giving context to
something that's a run on idea that I'm saying. Or
maybe because you always have a comment to what people say,
(51:35):
like you never not have words for something. I don't know.
They think they may think that because you you will
respond to everybody only if you're talking about what I'm
talking about it. If you talk to me about Trump, I
don't got nothing to say. Really, straight up.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
I don't know what the fucking saying. They start talking
about tears and ship, I'm like, I don't know that's
you come in, Pete. I was come about to ask
you a question earlier. Too. Reminded me of my one
of my favorite movies, Negotiating, Yeah, where you come in, Pete?
Where you come in? That Roman?
Speaker 5 (52:12):
That's uh, that was what the Samuel when he's locked
himself in the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
But no, I see what you're saying, though. I understand
what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Because it is getting a real heated moment in the
soul called street urban culture versus hip hop.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
And that's what it seems like now, not versus, but
it seems like it is. It seems like it is
now versus mainstream America.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
You know, mainstream now think they're either street or hip hop.
Mainstream believes that, And that's what I'm saying. It's the
main stream to tell them then, tell them they're not
hip hop, they're not street, they're mainstream. You're not street,
(53:00):
your mainstream. I keep telling them that. But maybe we
should stop using the worst civilian because that's confusing people.
The worst civilians being misused in all aspects.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
I don't think that's the issue.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
It doesn't mean Yes, there's not a word that you
could find that they wouldn't misuse.
Speaker 4 (53:24):
In this context.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Say that again, Pete.
Speaker 5 (53:26):
There's not a word you could find that they wouldn't
misused in this context because it's rooted in an identity crisis.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yes, so go back to mainstream.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
Like you said, they don't want but they don't want
to be mainstream. They want to be part of They
want to be part of the group.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Like you said, force her back to mainstream. You can't.
That's why you have to constantly you're doubling down. You're
trickling down. You can't. That's not before stand back nowhere.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
It's just going to take us back to the original
days of hip.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Hop and they'll be come back to mainstream.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
They may not say it, but they're gonna be mainstream.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
They won't say hip hop and street, They for sure
gonna say that. I don't want to do that. Now.
When you get done. Now, when you get.
Speaker 6 (54:08):
Done doubling down, applications and ship have to turn in background.
Speaker 4 (54:15):
Those are type people.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
They won't go mainstream until the cops show up, you know,
then they're gonna tell on your ends.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Now it's nazi why Trump is doing what's that thank
you ding about undocumented birth.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Rights and ship Now that's starting to make sense.
Speaker 4 (54:32):
Man, that's about fucking eighty years too late. They made.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Commercial.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
There was a maybe and she was like, Trump is
making sure our borders the same. So if you're here illegally,
you should leave now, maybe will let you back. But
if you don't, we're gonna catch you. We're gonna we're
gonna find you, wanna catch you, get rid of you,
and you'll never be able to come back.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
And that's a commercial they're doing the OKI though, Hu,
the little white lady talking the little school teachers, the
little school teacher talking to you. She said, now if
you may, you may be able to come back. That's funny.
I wonder how many families saw that commercial. A lot,
(55:20):
a lot.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
If they mother, there was several thousand, like they they
docked like.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Some number.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
It was in the thousands. That wasn't in the like millions.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
People that left them on their own.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Yeah, people who like self deported so they could refile.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. People did. They left, People
actually left.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
But if you mean they did that and they be
able to come back and they came back, you don't.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
We won't find you. We will.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, it was like this Trump funny bro like, I
don't know enough about politics.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
That's why I argue about pot I only know about
humans and funny shit.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
Because politicians about emotion. It shouldn't be but Lee, it's
about making somebody feel good, and somebody's gonna feel bad
at that expense. Yeah, that's politics, and I don't play
politics good. I'm not great at making people feel good
and other people like man, I'm just gonna put on
for this particular culture that I am the best, that
(56:24):
IM gonna be the voice of this culture. Then I'm
gonna keep it moving.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
He doesn't make the culture happy with you.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Sometimes cultures jay Z always gonna be happy with me
ninety of the time, ninety nine percent of the time,
because no man should be happy with one hundred percent
of the time.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
Nless you sucking dick.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
Well that took the conversations.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
No, I keep thinking it's true because if you feel yourself,
you think to yourself. Man, Glass don't never made me
look like a sucker. That's the best I can give you.
The best I can give.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
You call me a punk ast So that ship already
did that. That's not to say you're a pump. That
was an action. That was an adjective to describe action.
I just I just lacked self work right now, I
don't give a fuck talking about Yeah, I just I
(57:19):
lacked self work because I just don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
It was a It was a I told King man,
I'm gonna get you something. I wanted him to try.
So that's a big part of the story because I
was kind of looking to go get him. He's like, man, man,
you had something of you that.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
I'm like, Man, I'm gonna get you something now. Man,
if you got something, pee it was my fault.
Speaker 2 (57:38):
P I started the whole bullshit because I eve dropped
on a fucking conversation that.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
There was a conversation was hading. I eve dropped, like,
damn nigga, I can't get nothing nigg eat.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
And that's how it started because I eave dropped. So
I took the punk ass ass. That's what I get
for eavesdropping.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
This is why you can't talk what. I can't be
the victim.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Because I'm throwing out my heart and telling the truth
and taking accountability and stuff.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
That's how I become the victim. Taking accountability. Oh don't work.
Speaker 4 (58:18):
Oh yeah, victim is not taking accountability.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
Well, Peter, I'll go back to being a punk ass.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
THEO looking out for tuning into the No Sellers podcast.
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Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah.
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