August 20, 2025 • 58 mins
Glasses Malone and Rose Gold Peter explore the intersections of personal growth, filmmaking, and the realities of street culture. The conversation reflects on experiences with addiction, rehabilitation, and the powerful role environment plays in shaping identity. Themes of community, resilience, and assertiveness are woven throughout, as success stories from the streets highlight both struggle and triumph. The dialogue also examines the future of music, the fight for fairness in the industry, and the importance of cultural pride and support in building lasting legacies.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Sealer's Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
load glasses Malone, Pete Dog, what's the deal? Tell me
(00:23):
shot a movie yesterday? Oh you did? Yeah? When shot
my first film. I am petrified of how it's gonna look,
how I'm gonna look in the film? Rather gotcha. It's
been a trying week. It's been it's been a really
(00:47):
long one hundred and twenty days.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I got a question for you though about your movie.
How they have you dressed a certain way?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yes? They had me just casual?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, they had costume?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Was for you?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Or took you come casual?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I just come casual. How long did it take? Like?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
How long were you actively in production for it all?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So I was supposed to shoot from nine to eleven
ended up being nine to two? Sounds about right. Yeah,
I'm frightened at what I'm gonna look like. But you know, fear,
you know the presence of fear is the possibility of bravery. Sure, sure,
so I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I made the best joke about it that I've ever
made about anything, and that landed on just a dead audience.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So what are you gonna do.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
But so to make the long story short, I think
I talked about it in another conversation we had about
two B movies. Uh, it was a homie bounce and
he knew me when I was on the street hustling
and slagging water PCP, I mean or angel does whatever
you call it. And I've had bigger Hollywood producers, big
(02:08):
film directors offered me opportunities, but it wasn't time. So
now it's time, and just to know, you know, here's
the opportunity with somebody that might have saw me at
one of my most critical points in life. Sure no.
And just watching him work, watching t Brown Bounce work
(02:32):
from where we started at into where he was at now,
it was a sense of pride. It just made me smile.
And I don't think I really smiled at him while
we was filming because I was so focused on trying
to do the best that I could that I really
didn't get a chance to tell him, like, man, I'm
proud of you, you know what I mean, Like coming
from where we came from, like to be here says
(02:56):
a lot. And you know, with King and other people
that came from this life, you know that that specific
street urban cultural life based in southern California or the
West Coast in general at this point, or really internationally,
you know, as far as being from a gang or
crips of bloods or whatever you want to call it,
to watch people blaze their own trails, because that was
(03:20):
always the purpose, to blaze your own trail. Sometimes, I
just I'm just I'm just like over the moon about
it and watching somebody who bought Sharon for me at
one time in my life and knew one of my homeboys,
shout out to my homeboy, Snow. I got a white
homeboy named snow Pete from Set and Everything. Snow he
had hands. Shout out to Snow because I think he
(03:43):
listens to the pod. But to watch to come from
where we were at to where we're at now, it
just speaks to the possibilities. I was just telling Don
that the great gatest thing shout out to Don daub
A and r A Blue Division, But one of the
(04:03):
greatest things that happened in my life, if not the
greatest my experience is cripping. I've said this before on
the pod and people think I'm trolling or being funny,
but I'm dead serious. Like cripping gave me a level
of humility that I wouldn't have had, you know, if
(04:23):
it didn't happen to me. I never knew cripping was
gonna prepare me for what I was going to do
in the future, whether it's hip hop, you know, whether
it's you know, try to be available to people to
help them, you know, to be stern when I needed
to be, to be a representative of something. I never
(04:44):
knew the value of it in real time. But the
reason I say is the greatest thing that happened to
me right, especially as a black man, is I was
on pace to go to ZUOS Pacific and become a pharmacist.
And you know, I had the correct grades in high school,
(05:06):
I got the write SAT scores. My mom went to prison.
That kind of threw me off. But if I would
have went to college straight to a ZUSA Pacific became
a pharmacist, I might have been one of those dudes
that's sitting on their couch as a black man talking
shit about black people, one of those dudes like, you know,
(05:27):
I'm a black man, those as niggas, you know what
I mean, Because I would have felt like we all
had the same twenty four to seven, you know, like
that's the fundamental expression, you know, being said throughout people
in the neighborhood is or we all got to sign
twenty four and we don't our twenty fours could look
(05:48):
completely different. And becoming a gang member allowed certain people
that I knew my whole life to trust me with
information that they wouldn't have gave me if I wasn't
a homeboy, like if we wasn't if they didn't feel
they can confide in me to a soldier's degree, not
just to like a friend's degree, but to a soldier's degree,
(06:11):
like I had certain homies explained to me, you know
what it was like for them to try to figure
out how they're gonna eat dinner. But I watched them
grow up and not knowing that they wasn't eating dinner
sure because maybe somebody's mom was on drugs. I'll tell
you one thing. I mean, the the way I see
(06:32):
certain homies now is completely different. Like my homeboy rym
Ron shout out to Ron Ron, and I meant to
call him before we had this conversation, like I wanted
to make sure I stood, you know, I didn't want
to just be putting his business out, but to watch
where he's at as a family man, my homeboy Ron Ron,
(06:53):
to watch where he's at as a family man. His
kids is going to college, he's been with his wife
for years, he's had a steady career for years, and
his parents slipping into different things while he was growing up,
and for him to have that that type of sternness.
It just I was thinking about just how extremely proud
(07:16):
I am to be a Seventh Street crypt and people
won't understand it because they just hear that and they
think of a street sign or a bandana. They don't
think of a relationship between men, you know, kids, you know, family.
They don't see it that way. But when I look
at my home boy run round man, and like where
his life is and how it could have been like
(07:39):
that to me is why he's the most successful crip.
Like that type of prototype when people figure it out
after all of this crazy shit, that is what success
looks like coming from this background, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah? Like when somebody Mama and Daddy King is on drugs,
you know what I mean, and somehow they still even
though they get caught up in the streets. They still
be fucked up, but somehow they adjust theirself and you know,
correct everything wrong. Like I was talking to my homeboy Russ.
(08:20):
Russ went to jail for murder at twenty twenty one
years old. Like Russ is one of my downest homies,
you know what I mean. He about five six years
younger than me. He like a down homie. He was
culturally raised into being the seventh Street. His dad is
a representative. His uncle is a real homie, like real
solid homies, his whole family, you know what I mean,
(08:42):
Like his brother doing life freedom homie Smurf. I think
Smurf listened to the pot Free you girl, But like
his brother is a homie, and like he goes to
jail for murder, you know what I mean, he does
fifteen years and right now he's in the truck. He's
establishing his life. Now, he's still pursuing a dream. Like
(09:05):
how the fuck that didn't break him, you know what
I mean? And we was on the phone and I
just was able to smile, and those be sometimes the
only moment I smile is when other people around me
having triumph. Sure does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
King?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, like that type of triumph.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But if we don't put those type of triumphs in
front of people, nobody sees it and could be motivated
because that's an inspiring thing that happens because, like you said,
your people coming from somewhere that other people, the majority
of people that go to prison don't come out and
be successful. Let's just say that off the top. Sure, Okay,
(09:52):
let's not act like everybody that comes out of prison
is successful and changes their life around.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So it don't rehability. Yeah, it don't rehabilitate.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So when you talk about these people, people got to
really understand, you know, significance of the change that they do,
because it's not something that's normal.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Question from your experience in there, what percentage of people
do you think regardless of like coming in with the
issue or taking on the issue while they're in there,
but leave with the issue of some sort of a
substance issue, substance addiction problem that then creates like a
(10:33):
chemical predisposition to if not relapsing and violating in some
form or fashion, like like out of a thousand, is
it two hundred, is it six?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Like?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What you know? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
If I understand your question, the percent is of people
that's in prison that had a chemical related crime.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Or that got addicted in some sort of sort of way,
whether whether in there or whether got in there because
of it in some sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
The addiction in prison is a very small you know,
few that's really addicted in prison like that. Okay, it's
not like everywhere you go people are just addicted. You know,
you got your little groups that may make some drink
in there, but it's only a handful. You got some
people that maybe smoke some weed, only a handful. You know,
(11:23):
certain prisons you might get a little heavier drugs, but
it's always only a handful, gotcha, It's not the majority
of it. Because the majority of people in prison now
is not the same as it was twenty thirty forty
years ago, because now they start taking people with non
violent crimes really and putting them in prison that that
(11:47):
wasn't on drugs, but was maybe raping kids and robbing banks.
Sure you see what I'm saying. So they're scared to
death in there, so they're taling and doing all this stuff.
So a lot of stuff like that not rampant like
you think it is, because you got people like that
ready to tell gotch and prison is full of tell
(12:07):
people telling. Now point blank, every prison people telling. Sure,
the hardest people you think is the hardest ones they telling. So, now,
drugs ain't really the problem now on the street, Yes,
that causes you know, the majority of people come in
to prison drugs are involved. From the street level. I
(12:28):
said about eighty percent of people that come to prison
drugs are involved alcohol, you know, weed something pills. Eighty percent.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That makes sense, Yeah, that kind of yeah, it was
Actually that actually makes perfect sense the more I think
about it, considering alcohol is a drug. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And that's the difference. But not in prison. But because
when they get in there, you're right, they put them
into chemical dependency programs and all that stuff, you know
what I'm saying. But they can't get access to all
that stuff in prison. Yeah, and the half folk could
get access to that kind of stuff and got the
money to pay for it. Sure, it gets more expensive,
(13:10):
it's very expensive.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
No sellings podcast. Gl My brother Peter Boss in the house,
big brother King is here. That that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Like like my two uncles, they you know, were in
and out, in and out I mean for just like
decades and they would come out on Point. But it
was one of those only matter of time things.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's how it was in the county. Like the second
or third time I went to the county jail, it
was a dude who was from around the way, but
on the streets he was on crack and you would
hear stories of how cold of a dude he used
to be. But you know, I never saw it because
by the time I'm doing my thing, you know, he
strung out and pushing the basket. But I remember going
(13:55):
to jail and he had been in jail for four months,
and I was like, oh, you'll see what'll were running,
big homie running it. He running a dorm. I'm like who,
and they said who it was? And I seen me
he just looked swow and just it shot. Was like
the fuck is that? And it was like he didn't
have that crutch and in there he had to really
(14:16):
get it together, and you could just see what he
used to be in all his glory feel me And
I remember he got out before I did, and then
when I came home, I think I was doing a
bunch of stuff. But I didn't see him til about
ninety days later. He was right back to shrank down,
pushing baskets.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Well for that reason, you know, from my experience being
a different prisons and stuff. That's because those type of
people when they go in there, they're more focused on
physicalness of getting out. They're not they're not even thinking about,
you know, the other side of let me go learn
(15:02):
the white collar side or let me go learn. That's
all they thinking about is right when I get out,
I'm going to do this because I tell people all
the time, when you go into prison, you only come
out two ways, either a worse person or a better person,
never the same.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Do you think that there's a difference with which outcome
you get based off of how long a term you're
in there, Like, if you're only in there for a
couple of years, you're not gonna think of it as
like life changing. It's just like you're counting the days
to get the fuck back out.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Versus that only applies, Hey, Pete, that only applies if
that said person have been going in and out the
county jail. Gotcha, You see what I'm saying. If it's
a first time person that never been to prison or anything,
a year or two may scare the shit out of them.
But if you've been somebody that's been going in and
out the county jail, and you damn there know everybody
(15:54):
when you get to prison, that's gonna play a part.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And that was a big problem for me. Like the
first time I went to the county uh huh, Like
you have your normal concerns, but when I got there,
I knew everybody there, like they ain't going to jail
with nothing. I was like, shit, whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's what I'm saying. You start knowing everybody and don't
become nothing no more. It'd be like, oh, yeah, what
you're doing after all? Yeah? Man, you know woo you woo. Sure,
but that prepares you going in and out of county,
prepares you for prison, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But yeah, I just thought about that and being on
that set and sometimes looking at myself or talking to
friends like I was with hot Dog and Big Ridge
and certain people I knew who lived the same life,
and to watch them flourish in existing shit, just like
I was hanging out yesterday before I went and shot
(16:46):
the film with with with my older hommies that I
came up street racing under and just watching them flourish
and just live. Man. It's a joy that I cannot express,
you know what I mean. It's like watch and Kendrick,
you know, like it's a joy watching your friends who
came through something that you knew was ridiculously crazy and
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survive and thrive.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You know, it was really crazy from you know, being
from Washington and stuff and coming down here and you know,
being around you know, with you is. I hear these
stories about LA and gang members and stuff like that.
But then when I come down here, I look out
and be like.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
These dudes is rich.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You know what I'm saying, Like these dudes got the
best of everything, like the best cars, the best and
it's like you can't do that being grimy and dirty
and stuff. You know, you can't do that really with
a sour heart where you're just doing everybody wrong. You
can't be out there with all the cars and stuff. Yeah,
(17:54):
you can't be out there if you're doing it that way.
So people don't get to see that part because they
make like LA is just a battlefield. But when I
come down here, I look like these dudes they're writing,
Crenshaw's got to be a fucking billion dollars out there
in fucking cars and shit. Probably close, but these are
street people, you know that you would call niggas and
(18:16):
the gendrins and stuff like that. And these people are
richer than people I've seen in Washington. That's updy what
you call upp they.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That is the thing about Crenshaw, and I always try
to share that with people, and I get so much
of a backlash for giving people nuanced into the relationship
of southern California or West Coast street urban culture, you
know what I mean. Like, if I tell you it's
not that bad, you think I'm sensationalizing it or glamorizing it.
And I'm like, nah, bro, it's a real dope relationship
(18:48):
between men. Like when I was able to take you
on Chrishaw, you was able to see how brothers fellowship
and all these different people from different communities and you know,
millions of millions of dollars and restored all them. Yeah,
it was crazy, shiny, and it's just all these people.
Yet it could be it could be there without a hitch,
(19:10):
but nothing goes wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But the funny thing was, then, know, if you're not
from there, you ain't taking no pictures, no videos, definitely not.
If you ain't from there, you ain't taking no pictures.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That was from the Rob Joker with Joker, Oh bro, yeah,
and he was fussing and I saw what was happening,
so I slid right up on him, like what's up,
you know what I mean? And he was like, oh,
what's up? Blessings Like it is my people. He was, oh,
this show people. Yeah, He's like yeah, I was just saying,
but nah, it's like it's protected and rightfully so. So
(19:48):
it's a lot of bludswood and tears that went into
that beautiful scenery, you know what I mean. That's the
fellowship and those beat those moments again to that same
sh story. That's what it's all about, you know you
because there is no real way to be a crip.
The only thing that's the true rule is to be
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a man, to be accountable, and that's that's the main cornerstone.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
And that's what I'm gonna say, Pete being down there,
like I had to walk around here by myself sometimes
and then he putting me on security for Joker. God,
but not knowing nobody, you know at first, like being
down there and just it's just a whole different thing.
But being a man first was me being a man
and wanted to go walk around and look without being
(20:36):
with him, Like I didn't want to feel like I
had to trail him everywhere. When I'm looking at all
these nice cars and.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Shit, real top. So you start talking, brother, it's gonna
know you you know, not quite from Na, but they
gonna tell you still one of us.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, So it's like being a man. And so I
just took off and just start looking at everything. So
I did security with Joker. A Joker is a different
conversation because he's a brother, but you're not from With Joker,
it was fun, but.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Like that's not shined enough, you know. It's it's people
want me to be so ashamed of how what I'm
a part of and how I grew up because of
the bad the bad actions of a few people. It's
not a cultural thing. Like I was telling my homeboy,
he was like, well, glasses, how do you feel about
(21:28):
you know, slavery. I'm like, slavery was woven into American fabric,
you know what I mean, So when somebody else has
to be accountable, it's because you benefit from it. And
I'm like, this is not woven into it. Like when
I keep trying to tell people culturally, what it's like
to be a crypt There's a lot of confusions, Pete.
And you only know because you've been around a few.
You've been around enough of us to know there is
(21:50):
no way you're forced to behave culturally, Like you don't
have to steal old ladies persons. It's actually frowned upon. Yeah,
for real, you know you don't you're you're not supposed
to settly assault women. That's frowned upon.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You would never know that because it is you know,
a group of criminals. So you think all crimes fly. No,
there are some crimes you know, that are still frowned upon,
you know what I mean. There's a lot a ton
of crimes that frowned upon. Sure, you know what I mean,
like frowned upon, like a problem like you not hanging
(22:25):
with us, you know what I mean. If this is
what you're doing and that's not being expressed, you know
when it comes to this culture. So you know, going
through all the stuff I went through, it maybe my
life having this big altered turn end up still being beneficial.
(22:46):
And I'm glad it happened. Like, don't get me wrong,
I wish my life would have became a pharmacist, and
I went to the Zuoza Pacific and I lived a
mundane life where I'm making good money. I'm helping people
in the community by selling a medicine, which I don't
even know if that's even helpful. But you know what
I'm saying, Like that would have been cool, But man,
I wouldn't trade the black man that I became. Like
(23:10):
as much as I appreciate the man I would have became,
if I would have went that path, I would There's
no way I would trade that version of a man
in for the version of a black man that I am.
Now I can understand the care that I have for
black people, the care that I have for people that
I in the community that I grew up with, and
(23:30):
I notice it whenever I go to every other community.
If I go to Staten Island and I'm hanging out
in park Hill in the project. So if I'm on
you know, in Brooklyn flat Bush from my boy Winking,
you know when I'm back out there, or if I'm
in Jersey with the Gray Street homies, you know what
I mean, free Blades, you know certain people, and or
I'm somewhere else, like if I'm somewhere else, bro, Like,
(23:54):
like it's that already, Like I don't even have to,
like King talks about it, but it's like it's like everywhere,
I treat it like I'm in watching a compant. Everywhere
I go. If I'm on the hill, if I'm in Tacoma, Bro,
I treat it like I'm in watch a compan It's
a way I'm gonna carry myself and talk to people
and speak like I got some sense and I noticed
the same thing. I'm chilling in the ghetto or Baltimore. Bro,
(24:16):
it's the same shit, and people don't know why I
can exist there. Well, it's the pride that I have
in my own community and the pride I have in
my own people, my own people like I have that pride.
And so if I'm in Dayton, Ohio and I'm in
a project shooting Dice, it's like I'm shooting Dice into
Jordan Downs, Like I'm going to treat everybody with disrespect
(24:36):
and it's worth fine, you know what I mean, And
I'm okay with you know if that's how demises happened.
Like if I find myself in a situation you can't
live forever. But I never want to live in that
space where I'm scared of other black people for no reason.
It's just don't make no sense to me. No, it
don't make no sense. Like I listen to so many
people rhetorics on the Internet of people scared of black people,
(24:59):
people people scared of black people telling me what they
think black people are going to do to them, And
I'm like, why would they do that to you?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But it's crazy because you say that, and I've been
with you across this country and all the ghettos in
every state, so I've seen how you know it doesn't
bother you, and how you move around in there and shit,
but why is it? You know, just in today's society.
I know, when I'm walking somewhere, I say what's up
to a black person walking? They damn there won't even
(25:27):
say nothing back. That's the most craziest shit I see.
Maybe it's something wrong with your what's up?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Is it? Yeah? Because when I say with other people,
I speak assertively too, Like I don't I'll be like,
what's up with y'all?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Who's going? Like even if you didn't want to say it,
uh huh, my assertiveness is speaking with you and acknowledging
another brother or sister in the space. It's going to
demand you to respond, and you it's almost it ain't
that many ways you could respond. Yeah, it would be
really tough for you to respond with venom, Oh what
you mean? Brother? That that ain't gonna come from that? Like,
(26:06):
I don't let where everybody else dictate the energy of
blackness when I'm around. Does that make sense? I don't
let everybody else's insecurities dictate the energy of blackness when
I'm around. I set the presidents, I set the tempo.
That's something I've been doing for a long time. Now,
(26:28):
that's something I've been doing for twenty five years. You're
not going to determine what type of brother you're gonna
be around me. You're gonna be an upstanding brother or
immediately you know, you're gonna come into a conflict with
my spirit, my soul immediately. And I don't have to
like be confrontational. My energy is going to be very confrontation,
(26:52):
because I've.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Seen that around here in Palmdale. You know, if you're
going to stores and it's like, damn, these niggas don't
even say nothing, they just be I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I walk into these stores all the time. I walk
into a store where people be hanging out, they tell
me the story with y'all, Honey, are y'all doing? They
be looking like, heyhewing me wrong. I do think when
you be in some places where things are not great
at all the time, right, there is a concern and
a kind of a shyness. I won't even let people
(27:21):
live in that place. Okay, what's up with y'all?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Man? What's up? Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I mean, yeah, ma, I'm just making sure y'all good. Brother, Yeah, man,
what's happening with y'all? What y'all got going on? They
you could tell black people, especially ghetto black people, people
that come form where we come from, they really be disarmed, like, man,
is this nigga really care about my day? I think
this nigga actually care about how I'm doing? That be
the energy I get. I swear Pete that, yeah, how
(27:51):
you doing today? And they be like I'm cool, No, no, man,
how you really doing today? Honey? Like, what's up with y'all?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You can just tell we live this life where people
are not really concerned with how we exist. So when
it's another brother that's really like, Yo, what's up with y'all? Man?
Y'all meaning to how y'all feeling? They just be disarmed?
And I try to carry the energy on social media,
you know. But again, it's so easy to kind of
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be a false version of yourself on social media.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
And you can't bump into anybody on social media because
they either commentation that like they found you already or
you found them already, Like there's no happenstance on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
So like that's what I'm saying, King, Like, I don't
let other people create the black energy in the room
when I'm here, Like I'm going to establish it unless
it's already flowing in a way that I think is good. Now,
if it's negative already, like if some shit happened, I'm
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not trying to adjust your energy. I ain't finna be
arguing with you if some shit happen and I getting
what I need and I'm lead, you know what I mean,
unless it's somebody I have a personal vested relationship in
and then I have that access. But man, for the
most part, Man, if I see brothers, I set the
energy myself. I don't give a fuck. Where are they from?
You know what I mean. I let brothers know like that,
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I'm proud of them, you know what I mean, especially
even in this position now, you know, from where I
started at to where I'm at now in my journey
through you know, storytelling and entertainment, like like I'll hit
somebody like it's a cat right now. His name is
Johnny Damn D. He's from Fort Worth, Dallas, Texas. Fort
(29:36):
Worth and Dallas is like ye put the damn in there. No,
that's his name on social media, john km D. And
he has a song called murder Being. You know the
way they dance, you know, they call it jigging and
they be just being in their body. It's like a
wavy thing and it's called murder Being and right and
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it's about you know, how they do their thing in
the streets but still how they having fun. And I
hit him and I'm like, brother, man, whatever this is.
I just love this song, homie. If you need anything,
you just let me know and I slay my Nummiy's
like man, thank you, hommy. And you could just tell like,
you know, brothers, and it ain't just in LA that's
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a lie.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You go to any ghetto where people fighting over limited resources,
It's always gonna be a reserve about how they interact
because they don't quite know what's a threat. That's all
like when somebody hit me up, I automatically think they
think that I'm threatening it. So some people get mad,
Oh why you hit me up? I know why you
hit me up. I look like a threat, So let
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me disarm you. I'm for seven street wise hommy, but
you know, I don't know what y'all got. Now, if
you from somewhere, we got a problem. You know, we
need to exchange cool. But I'm not scared that somebody
perceives me as a threat.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I get it. We fighting over these limited resources. It's
easy to be like, man, this person trying to come
take my life, Take, take my corner. Take. That's how
we we live, trying to protect everything. That's why I
be so proud and I see the success is certain
people that's really navigated way tough situations to find a
level of balance. That is the shit. That's what I'm
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here for. Dog, That's what makes me scream for Kendrick
so loud. Now he kept it solid in moments he
could have eaten. Don't get me wrong. He not a
perfect person, you know what I mean, But he kept
it solid on so many different opportunities. When he could
have folded, He could have could have fold. Man. I
watched people fold all the time. So when I watch greatness, man,
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I be so excited. And that don't even gotta be
you winning a you know, you're performing at the super Bowl,
winning five Grammys for one song. That could be my
homeboy Ron Ron that been at his job for twenty years.
I'm just as happy that could be Mamie Russ telling
me he's been to twelve states and he in that truck,
and I'm man, look at you dog like you know,
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little washboy son Troy. This is my young hoummie. When
he does something great, I tell him I'm proud, and
I know it fucks him up because he knows I
see him as his little boy. Still not that he's
a little boy. This nigga my height. He might be
a LOWD t. If me and some Troy, me and
Washaway fight, it probably be a good fight. He's young
and agile and he's strong, you know what I mean.
I have to use my resources and experience. It's a
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big old young nigga, but it bothers him that I
see him as this kid still. But it's like, I'm
proud you are fucking alive, nigga. I'm proud at you.
Somebody father, I'm proud of you trying to figure it out.
And I don't give a fuck how it make them
feel when I tell them how proud I am of that.
I don't care if it make him embarrassed. I hit Bosco.
I remember I used to see Bosco. I be with
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mac Ten and I would see Bosco. Bosco didn't even talk.
I thought this nigga Becuz was mute. You know what
I'm saying. Ao, Bosco the one making all the jo
Fosco used to just be on bullshit, shut out to Don'ty,
Donut and Underdog and they would come and Fosco, Donut
is co charismatic. So Donut are talking?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You just big light skin dude.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, you just you'll be like I like Donut, that's
Donut is charismatic. Underdog is charismatic too.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
He's Marry Marry cousin said, who donuts like Mary Mary's cousin.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, but I didn't know that. But Donut is charismatic.
So you and me donut even as a game member,
you'll be like, I like that, dude. Bosco just looked
like a fucking problem. And Bosco got the Internet and
start talking and he would just every time it would
just make me flot out laughing. I'm like this, Nigga
really got all his personality. But for years you had
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to be from the bottoms or from families, or you
had to know him to see it. And then one
day that the social media gave him an opportunity and
he was able to just let everybody see it without judgment,
and we got somebody really special to the culture, somebody
really entertaining, really fun and really authentic. And I remember
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hitting him and your ass is funny as fuck. But
I'm so happy you do this, homie. And you could
just tell he was so disarmed, you know what I mean,
because we don't. It's like a fear to go around
showing love. Nigga ain't finna kick your ass if you
show him love. Dog, that's the problem. We didn't like,
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I'm telling King, we didn't lie to ourselves so much
because it's not as received when it's like when it's
not forceful. Well, just like we do everything else forceful.
We gotta show love forceful. If we oppress a line forceful,
you know what I mean? Why not show love for
I show love forceful? Man, hey man, check this out.
And I love what you're doing on me. I am impressed.
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That's what I focus on. Everything in life for me
is shaping up, Like right from the songs, I'm finla release.
I'm having little adversities I have to get over, but
I'm so done with I'm so done with trying to
(35:19):
act like I don't know how this is going to happen.
I know exactly what's gonna happen. I know where I'm going,
I know how high it is up there. I know
what's happening. I know what I really believe in, and
I'm just gonna stop acting like I don't straight up
straight up every day though, Like I want to make
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sure I show love to somebody that I really see
doing a thing, Like I really want to make that up.
And I don't mean just some other entertainer. Shout out
to Johnny Damnde and any other entertainer you know that
has got my attention. And I made sure I let
you know how impressed I was by your your effort, right,
(36:01):
But I mean just regular motherfuckers that came up the
way we came up. You know what I mean, Regular
motherfuckers that came up the way we came up. I
think when they don't get that kind of love, it
turned them into like angry people too. They already angry
because we come from those places, but it makes them angry,
dog like, It makes them even more angry, makes them
(36:22):
feel invisible, and a big fu pe and gangbanging is
feeling invisible. It's why you write your name on the wall. Sure,
you know what I'm saying. You just tired of being invisible,
and whatever it takes to make a motherfucker see you,
that's what you do. So like, I'm gonna make it
my business to do that, and I'm just not going
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to keep like, I'm not going to allow myself any
longer to not just do what I am supposed to do,
you know what I'm saying. Sure, And that's really what
being successful is about, the willingness to do what you're
supposed to do against all doubts, because for sure, it
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wouldn't be success, Like it wouldn't be success if you
were just supposed to be like, like, it wouldn't be
just success if it was given to you. Sometimes even
a simple step forward, Pete, we don't really pay attention
to how progressive that is, just stepping forward just to
sheer mechanics, like my back been hurt and I'm getting
(37:29):
old and if I ain't exercising crazy, my back hurt
like an old fucking man, you know that, right, And
it's like I have to move, I have to box,
I gotta go walk, I gotta hit the soign I got.
I have to write because I'm at that age where
like the car if you know, if you don't greeze
the joints, you know what I mean, you don't get
that blood flowing shit, don't be working out. But I
(37:50):
say that the same man. It's like, uh, I know
what I'm supposed to be doing. I like, my journey
has never been so clear for like even why I
went through the stuff that I went through, even why
I went through the stuff that I went through, Like
it all makes sense now, so it's time to finish it.
(38:13):
Straight up, it ain't really much who was the craziest
person king that you remember that you was like, damn
that person? End up being okay, wow, that came up
the way we came up, not just through any adversaries,
but our specific adversaries.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Probably named Marty Brown, Marty then Marty Brown. I think
that's probably the nigga that comes to mind that I
seen him lately and he was doing alright, house everything cool,
you know. I think he's the one that really shocked
the boss.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Shout out to my homeboy Sweets, homeboy Shine from HollyHood Sweets.
Was i' me met sweets when I was still selling
PCP every day and we had these fake ass jobs,
like we was keeping the police. We got low riders,
only thirty thousand dollars low riders, but we got these
little jobs that pay a little bit of money and
like the police is food, probably like nineteen twenty one.
(39:10):
But we were still hustling, and Sean worked at the
job with us. It's the only job I ever had.
And Sean worked at the job. And you know, he
was a cold, young power nigga, but he was going
through hell and life at that time. He had a
bunch of shit and I don't even know the depth
of what he had going on. Like I remember he
was telling me he didn't have nowhere to live like
it was just craziness. And fast forward, here we are.
(39:33):
You met Sean. Sean Sweets was the hummy at the
show in Seattle. We went up to Seattle and he
was talking to me the.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
One Jersey did huh that one that Jersey? Yeah yeah, okay, shout.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Out to them me DJ Jersey And he was talking
to me. He bought a house up there, like his
life is changed. And he was arguing on the internet.
And now I remember telling him, like, have you lost
your fucking mind arguing about what like some street shit
on the internet, Like what are you doing? Like, nigga,
look at your life. That's not to say were not
(40:05):
proud of our experience, but nigga can't. None of these
niggas even argue with us. That's how I feel when
I talk to certain people on the internet about the
music business. Y, I'll be telling me some shit. I'm
looking like, oh, you don't have no fucking idea.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
So let me ask you. So you say he shouldn't
argue about the street stuff, or he should argue people
about the real street stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You at this point, you either could clarify or somebody
could move on. Okay, because the type of people that
will argue with you on the internet about gang shit
are most likely people that's not from gang. Somebody said
that right now, Glass, you proud to be a crip.
Y'all walk around calling each other a gang all day?
What's up? Gang? You just mad that minds actually really
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mean something like it really mean gang? I be like,
what up? Gang? That's because we really gang members. Don't
be jealous. You want to use everything that we are,
but you don't want to actually be obligated to stand
up with somebody no matter if what the laws ay.
You don't want that obligation. You don't want that responsibility,
but you want the coolness of it to call somebody
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gang and to block black black. Yeah, all that's cute.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
It's so funny though, because when you know, when you
was little and you know, and you joint the gang,
they say join, you know, but sometimes you're just born
into your neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
It's just.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, uh, it's funny because you don't imagine to yourself
that this is something really big. You know what I'm saying, like,
this is something really national, and this is you're thinking
about just your neighborhood. You don't be thinking about really
things in other neighborhoods and shit like that to you.
You know, it's not really big. To me, it wasn't big, Like, Okay,
(41:52):
we just crips in Tacoma and there's other crypts around,
and that's that.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You don't even take that for us in a way
to will tell it to you.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, like we all together thinking about everybody.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
What you're proud to be a crypt. A dude told
me that. He was like, man, how you fifty seven
years old and you you and you and you're still
a crypt. I'm like, shit, the mafia don't retire, neither
does this cripping. Why would I retire from being glasses?
Look for what?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Well, that's what it was said, when you, when you,
when you, when you begin that it's something that you
don't it's just you forever. It's just something.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
How how how like these lessons do you want me
to turn back?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You know? It's like what you're join's over. It's like
the mafia. Once you join, you know, it's over. It's
that's you for life.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I ain't never going to be a house negro. That
ain't never gonna work out for me. I'm never going
to be this overtly law abiding person.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
I'm gonna be cool to all my life to forever.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It makes too much sense to It makes way too
much sense to me, Pete, to like what, like, how
could you be a law abiding Like when people say
that I'm a proud black American, that's just such an
odd thing. I always say that, like, why not if
you're a proud black man, you should be a proud
American because once you add black, is no way you
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could be proud of this. Mother fact. They foot out
your ass as far as it was because I ain't
took they foot out your ass, Pete. They might have
took the They might have took it from your abdomen
because they had foot all in your ass.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
For oh, they posed it down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
They had foot all your fifteen hundred to nineteen hundred
foot all in your ass, did Jim crow Is they
took it two feet out. Now it's just at your
lower intestine.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
So they trying to get rid of the Rights and
Shit Act.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, Trump, And that's a cold situation because I don't
know enough about politics, but I know if you take
away birthright citizen that probably it's gonna be hard to
get the right dialogue. So I'm just interested to see
what happen. But to be honest, I'm not really scared
about getting reported to wherever my people will be fun.
(44:06):
I'm not even scared. Like at this point, I'm not
living my life in fear.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I'm not even scared of what they talking about up
and up there in Washington, DC, with Trump and shit
that shit is. It's gonna be a ways before it
gets down to us too together.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I don't give a damn what it is. I don't
give fuck if it was tomorrow. Scoop me up, though,
Fuck it, I start again. That's just why I matter life, Pete.
I'm just that type of motherfucker. Like I start over,
put me in that jeer, I'm gonna get it cracking.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Scoop me up. I might be a spoiled kid leaving
out this door, knocking shit everything over on the way out.
This motherfucker. It's none bad as a motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
What power sh I'm not doing none of that. That day,
me going out the importing me y'all be over there
selling sticks and suitsh you what the fuck ever? They
selling whatever they bund I'm chilling. I'm I'm I'm going
today is the last day. I'm going to act like
I'm not intended to be as great as I am.
(45:04):
You know, like the closest I could come to humility
is by telling y'all what I've experienced. Reality is we
night and day like, I'm really after it. I want it.
I really want to make sure I put on a
great demonstration for the delegation of people that I represent,
(45:24):
and I could only get better and better at it. Facts,
So I'm trying to figure out every day when it
comes out, peate that you pre ordered, No, you ain't
got an iTunes So if you listening to this podcast,
My new single Wanted drops on the twenty six. It's
with Jurassic five and La Giants. Obviously I got the
La Giants. It's like my favorite rappers right now. Oh yeah,
(45:48):
I saw that on Instagram. I got Jurassic five on it.
It was really dope putting them back together, and really
the idea for the song was The idea for the
song was like people think backpack and gangster rap is different,
and I'm like, no, it's all street urban culture. So
when I put us together on a song, you're you're
gonna be able to hear exactly what the street urban
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culture is. A lot of people, ever since the Battle
of All Battles last year, there's been a conversation about
what culture. And I'm like, it's street urban culture. It's
the reason why you could put a backpack group like
Jurassic five next to a gangster rap group like La
Johnson Glasses Malone gangst rap acts like and make street
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urban culture that sticks together.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I'll ask you that question. Okay, would you consider La
Giant gangster rap our street urban culture raps gangster rape?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Anytime you ain't abiding by the law, if you like,
if any of your rap's talking about breaking the law,
your ass is a gangster.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Regardless if your official gangster in the gang or not
in the game.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Oh because if it's two or three of y'all, y'all
might be on some gast shit.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Okay, let's make it that clarification.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Gangster rap ain't real gang rap. It was about rap
that was honoree to the system to me.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Okay, No, okay, I get that classification going. Okay, because
I don't want people thinking like the LA giants are
now gang members. No, you know, what I'm saying, like,
I don't want that to be you know out there
like that. That's not fair to them because you know
how people out there were here, oh Glass have said
they do gangs it.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I ain't in the business of clarifying either, you know
what call that, I ain't in the business of explaining.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Look I make well, thank you for clarifying that for me, sir.
I appreciate the art.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Y'all digestive are We're gonna keep it moving, But head
over to iTunes and pre ordered Glasses Malone wanted Jurassic
five pre order on iTunes. Like I'm doing something really
special when it comes to streaming services. And I got
a bunch of other releases that are really unique. So
when you see how they're uploaded and presented, just press
(47:58):
play and enjoy it and run and tell somebody how
I did it. You know what I mean. It's really important,
Like this is for hip hop, this is for the
independent artist to still be able to thrive in this economy.
Like you cannot let everybody set your licensing fee. If
they're gonna pay you a licensing fee, don't let them
set the rate. You know, the goal is to force
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streaming apps to offer a buy service. There's no reason
why Spotify or a title shouldn't have another department right
next to it in the same app where you could
sell the music in a digital format. People should have
the opportunity to sell the record in a digital format.
So it's about really forcing that into the fold, and
(48:40):
that's my desire. Obviously, they gonna trip with me and
try to you know, but you know it'll work out
for me. It always does, So we're gonna do this
thing again. Head over to iTunes grab Glass is Malone
wanted with Jurassic five. Pre order it. It drops on
(49:04):
the twenty six. The video is crazy and if you
listening to this podcast, it comes out Tuesday. I know that.
So that Wednesday, you know, we're gonna start putting these
visuals up on the no Selings by Glasses page Pete.
Next time Pete comes, we're gonna have a bunch of
in studio pre recorded ideas, you know what I mean,
(49:25):
So you can have some really good visuals to see
what we do. But we're gonna get about this thing.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Can you kind of get a quick question in first?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Could you explain just from the mechanics of the business
standpoint on the iTunes, So the iTunes, when the song drops,
it's for purchase only. It's not just streaming for free
in the iTunes ether.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Well, so remember Apple and iTunes are separate. iTunes is
an Apple where they sell music, so Apple does have
something even though the iTunes should be a component of Apple.
Like if you put up in a perfect world, what
should happen is you should be able to stream a
snippet of your album right so people can get into it,
and if they like it, there should be an alternative
(50:13):
thing where they can buy it right there booms and
play it on their Spotify player. And then the people,
the artists who do want people to be able to
stream it, they can have that choice. But there should
be a choice on Spotify, Title and Apple, Amazon anywhere
else where. When you stream music, you can determine how
much of your music you want to stream, and you
(50:34):
should have a by option that should be added to
all of these streaming apps that would actually solve a
lot of problems because streaming does provide a value. It's
like when you would go to Tower Records at one
time and you would listen to the album and then
if you liked it, you could buy it. That's the
same thing that streaming should provide as well. But because
they got the industry by up, well, they got really
(50:57):
because the industry gotta deal with them artists, all hip
hop artists, especially hip hop artists. This is where you
in trouble because they determining your licensing fee. They say, hey,
we're gonna pay you a fraction of a cent, and
it really shouldn't be that simple cut.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
And dry, as like a stop gap in the middle.
Do you think that there would be value for an
artist to put something on Spotify for thirty days and
then pull it and make.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
It a bunch We talked about that. Possibly, possibly, But
the only problem is because I play music like I
only play music from those players. So like when you
play Spotify Music, you play it in a Spotify player,
When you play Apple Music, you play it in an
Apple Player. When you play Title Music, you play it
in a Title player, saying for Amazon, saying for YouTube music.
(51:48):
So it would be a place where you're not playing
music from That could really mess with the experience of
the listener, and it shouldn't be separated like Title has music.
They would make money just as well. But again, they're
trying to convince artists that the music isn't valuable while
they become billionaires and make billions of dollars a year profit,
(52:10):
you know, annually, off of music. So my real argument
at this point is there's no reason why Spotify doesn't
have a buy opportunity or Apple doesn't have a buy
opportunity that's not iTunes or Title or Amazon or YouTube music.
They have it for the films. You could rent a
(52:32):
film for two nine, three ninety nine, or you could
buy a film for ten dollars. Sure, they're only doing
it to us and nobody's paying attention, but that's why. Also,
like I understand why gangbanging mattered. At the end of
the day. It helped me understand culture. It helped me
understand who and what I'm fighting for, and I am focused,
(52:56):
you know what I mean? And it so even just
being a part of what I've been a part of
and understanding it and then learning hip hop, I can
see why this matters. Only this type of attitude of
this person could even make this fight for hip hop, Like,
this wouldn't be a fight that comes from the other side.
This is not a fight that's coming from Snooper scar Face.
They just like, I don't even want to put our
music or I don't even want to put it on
(53:18):
the streaming apps. I'm telling you now, we need to
make Spotify offer a by option. We need to make
YouTube music offer a bi option. We need to make
app one title and Amazon off for a by option.
That option should be available. I should be able to
put my songs up there in a one minute interval,
right you could stream them, listen to a minute long
and if you like it, you buy it and you
(53:38):
get the whole thing. Not yet, Yeah, that to me?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
Like I how do we start to how we get
them to do that?
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Force that pre order want it? Go to iTunes, Glasses, Malone,
Jurassic five, pre order want it? And when it's streams,
stream it the way I've produced it, the way I've uploaded.
I have made it to where at this point a
lot of the streaming apps are going to have to
make some changes, and God willing, everybody that's in the
(54:11):
business see what I'm doing and they start to do
it this way, and the goal would be to force
them to offer a buy option. Okay, that would be
the goal.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
I should be able to It's one thing. You pay
me a fraction of a cent. If they're paying a
fraction of my song, cool, it's a sample. If they
don't want to do it, keep it moving. But if
they like what I'm doing, they should be able to
buy it and then play it on the same player
that they play all the other free music you're giving them.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Right, it doesn't hurt their numbers because they buy a package.
It doesn't hurt their streaming numbers.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
You would still have to go back to the same
app to play the music. Yeah, and you buy a
package anyway for ten bucks a month.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
To hear whatever you want to hear, So buying the
record ain't gonna stop that ten dollars package.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Did this all really falls back on the label? Is
the way that whole paradigm shift happened?
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Is label's fault? Yeah, when you're back in La Pete, I.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
Don't know as needed. I guess I got to probably
go to saying lott if my parents are actually coming
and visiting me for the first time in like three years,
in a couple of weeks. But I could get back
in probably September or something like that. I've got to
figure that out. I don't know what I'm gonna do.
I got a lease ending in September, and I don't
know where I'm gonna live, nor where I want to live,
nor any.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Of the above. What's you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
I could stay locally down here, or get like a
multifamily thing somewhere and hide out and just hibernate out
through the winter for six months. I'd rather be in
the rental market in the spring, coming out of the
winter snowbird surge of you know, sucking up all the
(55:51):
empty units. I'd rather be trying to find a place
when they're when everybody just vacated everything and went back
to New York and what everyone's gobbling it up because
they're coming down. And I could just hold up in
a spot and just stack up some money for six months.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
I might be in some random ass town. I might
be in an apartment up the street, no clue.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Pete Man, Pete, I love your life.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
I might.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
I might be in a some weird scenario where I'm
in like a forty five day stop gap in a airbnb.
Some fucking have no idea, but you gotta be you
gotta be agile, you know what I mean. You gotta
be able to stay nimble, and if the there's a
deal on the table, you gotta put your shit in
the storage, in it or whatever the fuck for a while.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
I gotta do it. Hey, That's what I did, Pete.
When I moved down here, I had to do an
airbnb at first for a month. Yeah, didn't come down here.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
I know the feeling.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
Tim was screwed with my credit. I thought I thought
it was a scam, and it turned out it was real.
They're so fuck there's such bullshit artists. So now I'm like,
I just realized it was real. So I'm like, fuck,
I got like, I don't know if I have enough
time because it kicked my credit down just below that
threshold where I don't have to pay extra in an
application process.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
M hm. So I'm like, fuck.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
Think like there's a lag time between when you take
care of something when it actually reflects. So now that
just complicates matters. Because they said for years we build
an advance. I'm like, okay, well I bought my phone
for cash.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
I'm auto billed.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
You bill an advance. You told me I don't owe
you any money when I changed to AT and T,
which was a stupid thing to do, but whatever. And
then all of a sudden, some shit shows up on
my credit like, oh, that's fake, that's fraudulent. Like no,
I call that friend who works for t B because
no build advance, Like I know you said you build advance,
so in advance of the service comes to bill.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
No no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
The bill happens after I'm like, that's the opposite of advance.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
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Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Sealer's Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
load glasses Malone, Pete Dog, what's the deal? Tell me
(00:23):
shot a movie yesterday? Oh you did? Yeah? When shot
my first film. I am petrified of how it's gonna look,
how I'm gonna look in the film? Rather gotcha. It's
been a trying week. It's been it's been a really
(00:47):
long one hundred and twenty days.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I got a question for you though about your movie.
How they have you dressed a certain way?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yes? They had me just casual?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, they had costume?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Was for you?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Or took you come casual?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I just come casual. How long did it take? Like?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
How long were you actively in production for it all?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So I was supposed to shoot from nine to eleven
ended up being nine to two? Sounds about right. Yeah,
I'm frightened at what I'm gonna look like. But you know, fear,
you know the presence of fear is the possibility of bravery. Sure, sure,
so I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I made the best joke about it that I've ever
made about anything, and that landed on just a dead audience.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So what are you gonna do.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
But so to make the long story short, I think
I talked about it in another conversation we had about
two B movies. Uh, it was a homie bounce and
he knew me when I was on the street hustling
and slagging water PCP, I mean or angel does whatever
you call it. And I've had bigger Hollywood producers, big
(02:08):
film directors offered me opportunities, but it wasn't time. So
now it's time, and just to know, you know, here's
the opportunity with somebody that might have saw me at
one of my most critical points in life. Sure no.
And just watching him work, watching t Brown Bounce work
(02:32):
from where we started at into where he was at now,
it was a sense of pride. It just made me smile.
And I don't think I really smiled at him while
we was filming because I was so focused on trying
to do the best that I could that I really
didn't get a chance to tell him, like, man, I'm
proud of you, you know what I mean, Like coming
from where we came from, like to be here says
(02:56):
a lot. And you know, with King and other people
that came from this life, you know that that specific
street urban cultural life based in southern California or the
West Coast in general at this point, or really internationally,
you know, as far as being from a gang or
crips of bloods or whatever you want to call it,
to watch people blaze their own trails, because that was
(03:20):
always the purpose, to blaze your own trail. Sometimes, I
just I'm just I'm just like over the moon about
it and watching somebody who bought Sharon for me at
one time in my life and knew one of my homeboys,
shout out to my homeboy, Snow. I got a white
homeboy named snow Pete from Set and Everything. Snow he
had hands. Shout out to Snow because I think he
(03:43):
listens to the pod. But to watch to come from
where we were at to where we're at now, it
just speaks to the possibilities. I was just telling Don
that the great gatest thing shout out to Don daub
A and r A Blue Division, But one of the
(04:03):
greatest things that happened in my life, if not the
greatest my experience is cripping. I've said this before on
the pod and people think I'm trolling or being funny,
but I'm dead serious. Like cripping gave me a level
of humility that I wouldn't have had, you know, if
(04:23):
it didn't happen to me. I never knew cripping was
gonna prepare me for what I was going to do
in the future, whether it's hip hop, you know, whether
it's you know, try to be available to people to
help them, you know, to be stern when I needed
to be, to be a representative of something. I never
(04:44):
knew the value of it in real time. But the
reason I say is the greatest thing that happened to
me right, especially as a black man, is I was
on pace to go to ZUOS Pacific and become a pharmacist.
And you know, I had the correct grades in high school,
(05:06):
I got the write SAT scores. My mom went to prison.
That kind of threw me off. But if I would
have went to college straight to a ZUSA Pacific became
a pharmacist, I might have been one of those dudes
that's sitting on their couch as a black man talking
shit about black people, one of those dudes like, you know,
(05:27):
I'm a black man, those as niggas, you know what
I mean, Because I would have felt like we all
had the same twenty four to seven, you know, like
that's the fundamental expression, you know, being said throughout people
in the neighborhood is or we all got to sign
twenty four and we don't our twenty fours could look
(05:48):
completely different. And becoming a gang member allowed certain people
that I knew my whole life to trust me with
information that they wouldn't have gave me if I wasn't
a homeboy, like if we wasn't if they didn't feel
they can confide in me to a soldier's degree, not
just to like a friend's degree, but to a soldier's degree,
(06:11):
like I had certain homies explained to me, you know
what it was like for them to try to figure
out how they're gonna eat dinner. But I watched them
grow up and not knowing that they wasn't eating dinner
sure because maybe somebody's mom was on drugs. I'll tell
you one thing. I mean, the the way I see
(06:32):
certain homies now is completely different. Like my homeboy rym
Ron shout out to Ron Ron, and I meant to
call him before we had this conversation, like I wanted
to make sure I stood, you know, I didn't want
to just be putting his business out, but to watch
where he's at as a family man, my homeboy Ron Ron,
(06:53):
to watch where he's at as a family man. His
kids is going to college, he's been with his wife
for years, he's had a steady career for years, and
his parents slipping into different things while he was growing up,
and for him to have that that type of sternness.
It just I was thinking about just how extremely proud
(07:16):
I am to be a Seventh Street crypt and people
won't understand it because they just hear that and they
think of a street sign or a bandana. They don't
think of a relationship between men, you know, kids, you know, family.
They don't see it that way. But when I look
at my home boy run round man, and like where
his life is and how it could have been like
(07:39):
that to me is why he's the most successful crip.
Like that type of prototype when people figure it out
after all of this crazy shit, that is what success
looks like coming from this background, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah? Like when somebody Mama and Daddy King is on drugs,
you know what I mean, and somehow they still even
though they get caught up in the streets. They still
be fucked up, but somehow they adjust theirself and you know,
correct everything wrong. Like I was talking to my homeboy Russ.
(08:20):
Russ went to jail for murder at twenty twenty one
years old. Like Russ is one of my downest homies,
you know what I mean. He about five six years
younger than me. He like a down homie. He was
culturally raised into being the seventh Street. His dad is
a representative. His uncle is a real homie, like real
solid homies, his whole family, you know what I mean,
(08:42):
Like his brother doing life freedom homie Smurf. I think
Smurf listened to the pot Free you girl, But like
his brother is a homie, and like he goes to
jail for murder, you know what I mean, he does
fifteen years and right now he's in the truck. He's
establishing his life. Now, he's still pursuing a dream. Like
(09:05):
how the fuck that didn't break him, you know what
I mean? And we was on the phone and I
just was able to smile, and those be sometimes the
only moment I smile is when other people around me
having triumph. Sure does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
King?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, like that type of triumph.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But if we don't put those type of triumphs in
front of people, nobody sees it and could be motivated
because that's an inspiring thing that happens because, like you said,
your people coming from somewhere that other people, the majority
of people that go to prison don't come out and
be successful. Let's just say that off the top. Sure, Okay,
(09:52):
let's not act like everybody that comes out of prison
is successful and changes their life around.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So it don't rehability. Yeah, it don't rehabilitate.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So when you talk about these people, people got to
really understand, you know, significance of the change that they do,
because it's not something that's normal.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Question from your experience in there, what percentage of people
do you think regardless of like coming in with the
issue or taking on the issue while they're in there,
but leave with the issue of some sort of a
substance issue, substance addiction problem that then creates like a
(10:33):
chemical predisposition to if not relapsing and violating in some
form or fashion, like like out of a thousand, is
it two hundred, is it six?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Like?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What you know? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
If I understand your question, the percent is of people
that's in prison that had a chemical related crime.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Or that got addicted in some sort of sort of way,
whether whether in there or whether got in there because
of it in some sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
The addiction in prison is a very small you know,
few that's really addicted in prison like that. Okay, it's
not like everywhere you go people are just addicted. You know,
you got your little groups that may make some drink
in there, but it's only a handful. You got some
people that maybe smoke some weed, only a handful. You know,
(11:23):
certain prisons you might get a little heavier drugs, but
it's always only a handful, gotcha, It's not the majority
of it. Because the majority of people in prison now
is not the same as it was twenty thirty forty
years ago, because now they start taking people with non
violent crimes really and putting them in prison that that
(11:47):
wasn't on drugs, but was maybe raping kids and robbing banks.
Sure you see what I'm saying. So they're scared to
death in there, so they're taling and doing all this stuff.
So a lot of stuff like that not rampant like
you think it is, because you got people like that
ready to tell gotch and prison is full of tell
(12:07):
people telling. Now point blank, every prison people telling. Sure,
the hardest people you think is the hardest ones they telling. So, now,
drugs ain't really the problem now on the street, Yes,
that causes you know, the majority of people come in
to prison drugs are involved. From the street level. I
(12:28):
said about eighty percent of people that come to prison
drugs are involved alcohol, you know, weed something pills. Eighty percent.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That makes sense, Yeah, that kind of yeah, it was
Actually that actually makes perfect sense the more I think
about it, considering alcohol is a drug. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And that's the difference. But not in prison. But because
when they get in there, you're right, they put them
into chemical dependency programs and all that stuff, you know
what I'm saying. But they can't get access to all
that stuff in prison. Yeah, and the half folk could
get access to that kind of stuff and got the
money to pay for it. Sure, it gets more expensive,
(13:10):
it's very expensive.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
No sellings podcast. Gl My brother Peter Boss in the house,
big brother King is here. That that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Like like my two uncles, they you know, were in
and out, in and out I mean for just like
decades and they would come out on Point. But it
was one of those only matter of time things.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's how it was in the county. Like the second
or third time I went to the county jail, it
was a dude who was from around the way, but
on the streets he was on crack and you would
hear stories of how cold of a dude he used
to be. But you know, I never saw it because
by the time I'm doing my thing, you know, he
strung out and pushing the basket. But I remember going
(13:55):
to jail and he had been in jail for four months,
and I was like, oh, you'll see what'll were running,
big homie running it. He running a dorm. I'm like who,
and they said who it was? And I seen me
he just looked swow and just it shot. Was like
the fuck is that? And it was like he didn't
have that crutch and in there he had to really
(14:16):
get it together, and you could just see what he
used to be in all his glory feel me And
I remember he got out before I did, and then
when I came home, I think I was doing a
bunch of stuff. But I didn't see him til about
ninety days later. He was right back to shrank down,
pushing baskets.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Well for that reason, you know, from my experience being
a different prisons and stuff. That's because those type of
people when they go in there, they're more focused on
physicalness of getting out. They're not they're not even thinking about,
you know, the other side of let me go learn
(15:02):
the white collar side or let me go learn. That's
all they thinking about is right when I get out,
I'm going to do this because I tell people all
the time, when you go into prison, you only come
out two ways, either a worse person or a better person,
never the same.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Do you think that there's a difference with which outcome
you get based off of how long a term you're
in there, Like, if you're only in there for a
couple of years, you're not gonna think of it as
like life changing. It's just like you're counting the days
to get the fuck back out.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Versus that only applies, Hey, Pete, that only applies if
that said person have been going in and out the
county jail. Gotcha, You see what I'm saying. If it's
a first time person that never been to prison or anything,
a year or two may scare the shit out of them.
But if you've been somebody that's been going in and
out the county jail, and you damn there know everybody
(15:54):
when you get to prison, that's gonna play a part.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And that was a big problem for me. Like the
first time I went to the county uh huh, Like
you have your normal concerns, but when I got there,
I knew everybody there, like they ain't going to jail
with nothing. I was like, shit, whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's what I'm saying. You start knowing everybody and don't
become nothing no more. It'd be like, oh, yeah, what
you're doing after all? Yeah? Man, you know woo you woo. Sure,
but that prepares you going in and out of county,
prepares you for prison, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But yeah, I just thought about that and being on
that set and sometimes looking at myself or talking to
friends like I was with hot Dog and Big Ridge
and certain people I knew who lived the same life,
and to watch them flourish in existing shit, just like
I was hanging out yesterday before I went and shot
(16:46):
the film with with with my older hommies that I
came up street racing under and just watching them flourish
and just live. Man. It's a joy that I cannot express,
you know what I mean. It's like watch and Kendrick,
you know, like it's a joy watching your friends who
came through something that you knew was ridiculously crazy and
(17:10):
survive and thrive.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You know, it was really crazy from you know, being
from Washington and stuff and coming down here and you know,
being around you know, with you is. I hear these
stories about LA and gang members and stuff like that.
But then when I come down here, I look out
and be like.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
These dudes is rich.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You know what I'm saying, Like these dudes got the
best of everything, like the best cars, the best and
it's like you can't do that being grimy and dirty
and stuff. You know, you can't do that really with
a sour heart where you're just doing everybody wrong. You
can't be out there with all the cars and stuff. Yeah,
(17:54):
you can't be out there if you're doing it that way.
So people don't get to see that part because they
make like LA is just a battlefield. But when I
come down here, I look like these dudes they're writing,
Crenshaw's got to be a fucking billion dollars out there
in fucking cars and shit. Probably close, but these are
street people, you know that you would call niggas and
(18:16):
the gendrins and stuff like that. And these people are
richer than people I've seen in Washington. That's updy what
you call upp they.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That is the thing about Crenshaw, and I always try
to share that with people, and I get so much
of a backlash for giving people nuanced into the relationship
of southern California or West Coast street urban culture, you
know what I mean. Like, if I tell you it's
not that bad, you think I'm sensationalizing it or glamorizing it.
And I'm like, nah, bro, it's a real dope relationship
(18:48):
between men. Like when I was able to take you
on Chrishaw, you was able to see how brothers fellowship
and all these different people from different communities and you know,
millions of millions of dollars and restored all them. Yeah,
it was crazy, shiny, and it's just all these people.
Yet it could be it could be there without a hitch,
(19:10):
but nothing goes wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But the funny thing was, then, know, if you're not
from there, you ain't taking no pictures, no videos, definitely not.
If you ain't from there, you ain't taking no pictures.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That was from the Rob Joker with Joker, Oh bro, yeah,
and he was fussing and I saw what was happening,
so I slid right up on him, like what's up,
you know what I mean? And he was like, oh,
what's up? Blessings Like it is my people. He was, oh,
this show people. Yeah, He's like yeah, I was just saying,
but nah, it's like it's protected and rightfully so. So
(19:48):
it's a lot of bludswood and tears that went into
that beautiful scenery, you know what I mean. That's the
fellowship and those beat those moments again to that same
sh story. That's what it's all about, you know you
because there is no real way to be a crip.
The only thing that's the true rule is to be
(20:09):
a man, to be accountable, and that's that's the main cornerstone.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
And that's what I'm gonna say, Pete being down there,
like I had to walk around here by myself sometimes
and then he putting me on security for Joker. God,
but not knowing nobody, you know at first, like being
down there and just it's just a whole different thing.
But being a man first was me being a man
and wanted to go walk around and look without being
(20:36):
with him, Like I didn't want to feel like I
had to trail him everywhere. When I'm looking at all
these nice cars and.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Shit, real top. So you start talking, brother, it's gonna
know you you know, not quite from Na, but they
gonna tell you still one of us.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, So it's like being a man. And so I
just took off and just start looking at everything. So
I did security with Joker. A Joker is a different
conversation because he's a brother, but you're not from With Joker,
it was fun, but.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Like that's not shined enough, you know. It's it's people
want me to be so ashamed of how what I'm
a part of and how I grew up because of
the bad the bad actions of a few people. It's
not a cultural thing. Like I was telling my homeboy,
he was like, well, glasses, how do you feel about
(21:28):
you know, slavery. I'm like, slavery was woven into American fabric,
you know what I mean, So when somebody else has
to be accountable, it's because you benefit from it. And
I'm like, this is not woven into it. Like when
I keep trying to tell people culturally, what it's like
to be a crypt There's a lot of confusions, Pete.
And you only know because you've been around a few.
You've been around enough of us to know there is
(21:50):
no way you're forced to behave culturally, Like you don't
have to steal old ladies persons. It's actually frowned upon. Yeah,
for real, you know you don't you're you're not supposed
to settly assault women. That's frowned upon.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You would never know that because it is you know,
a group of criminals. So you think all crimes fly. No,
there are some crimes you know, that are still frowned upon,
you know what I mean. There's a lot a ton
of crimes that frowned upon. Sure, you know what I mean,
like frowned upon, like a problem like you not hanging
(22:25):
with us, you know what I mean. If this is
what you're doing and that's not being expressed, you know
when it comes to this culture. So you know, going
through all the stuff I went through, it maybe my
life having this big altered turn end up still being beneficial.
(22:46):
And I'm glad it happened. Like, don't get me wrong,
I wish my life would have became a pharmacist, and
I went to the Zuoza Pacific and I lived a
mundane life where I'm making good money. I'm helping people
in the community by selling a medicine, which I don't
even know if that's even helpful. But you know what
I'm saying, Like that would have been cool, But man,
I wouldn't trade the black man that I became. Like
(23:10):
as much as I appreciate the man I would have became,
if I would have went that path, I would There's
no way I would trade that version of a man
in for the version of a black man that I am.
Now I can understand the care that I have for
black people, the care that I have for people that
I in the community that I grew up with, and
(23:30):
I notice it whenever I go to every other community.
If I go to Staten Island and I'm hanging out
in park Hill in the project. So if I'm on
you know, in Brooklyn flat Bush from my boy Winking,
you know when I'm back out there, or if I'm
in Jersey with the Gray Street homies, you know what
I mean, free Blades, you know certain people, and or
I'm somewhere else, like if I'm somewhere else, bro, Like,
(23:54):
like it's that already, Like I don't even have to,
like King talks about it, but it's like it's like everywhere,
I treat it like I'm in watching a compant. Everywhere
I go. If I'm on the hill, if I'm in Tacoma, Bro,
I treat it like I'm in watch a compan It's
a way I'm gonna carry myself and talk to people
and speak like I got some sense and I noticed
the same thing. I'm chilling in the ghetto or Baltimore. Bro,
(24:16):
it's the same shit, and people don't know why I
can exist there. Well, it's the pride that I have
in my own community and the pride I have in
my own people, my own people like I have that pride.
And so if I'm in Dayton, Ohio and I'm in
a project shooting Dice, it's like I'm shooting Dice into
Jordan Downs, Like I'm going to treat everybody with disrespect
(24:36):
and it's worth fine, you know what I mean, And
I'm okay with you know if that's how demises happened.
Like if I find myself in a situation you can't
live forever. But I never want to live in that
space where I'm scared of other black people for no reason.
It's just don't make no sense to me. No, it
don't make no sense. Like I listen to so many
people rhetorics on the Internet of people scared of black people,
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people people scared of black people telling me what they
think black people are going to do to them, And
I'm like, why would they do that to you?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But it's crazy because you say that, and I've been
with you across this country and all the ghettos in
every state, so I've seen how you know it doesn't
bother you, and how you move around in there and shit,
but why is it? You know, just in today's society.
I know, when I'm walking somewhere, I say what's up
to a black person walking? They damn there won't even
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say nothing back. That's the most craziest shit I see.
Maybe it's something wrong with your what's up?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Is it? Yeah? Because when I say with other people,
I speak assertively too, Like I don't I'll be like,
what's up with y'all?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Who's going? Like even if you didn't want to say it,
uh huh, my assertiveness is speaking with you and acknowledging
another brother or sister in the space. It's going to
demand you to respond, and you it's almost it ain't
that many ways you could respond. Yeah, it would be
really tough for you to respond with venom, Oh what
you mean? Brother? That that ain't gonna come from that? Like,
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I don't let where everybody else dictate the energy of
blackness when I'm around. Does that make sense? I don't
let everybody else's insecurities dictate the energy of blackness when
I'm around. I set the presidents, I set the tempo.
That's something I've been doing for a long time. Now,
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that's something I've been doing for twenty five years. You're
not going to determine what type of brother you're gonna
be around me. You're gonna be an upstanding brother or
immediately you know, you're gonna come into a conflict with
my spirit, my soul immediately. And I don't have to
like be confrontational. My energy is going to be very confrontation,
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because I've.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Seen that around here in Palmdale. You know, if you're
going to stores and it's like, damn, these niggas don't
even say nothing, they just be I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I walk into these stores all the time. I walk
into a store where people be hanging out, they tell
me the story with y'all, Honey, are y'all doing? They
be looking like, heyhewing me wrong. I do think when
you be in some places where things are not great
at all the time, right, there is a concern and
a kind of a shyness. I won't even let people
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live in that place. Okay, what's up with y'all?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Man? What's up? Okay?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I mean, yeah, ma, I'm just making sure y'all good. Brother, Yeah, man,
what's happening with y'all? What y'all got going on? They
you could tell black people, especially ghetto black people, people
that come form where we come from, they really be disarmed, like, man,
is this nigga really care about my day? I think
this nigga actually care about how I'm doing? That be
the energy I get. I swear Pete that, yeah, how
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you doing today? And they be like I'm cool, No, no, man,
how you really doing today? Honey? Like, what's up with y'all?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You can just tell we live this life where people
are not really concerned with how we exist. So when
it's another brother that's really like, Yo, what's up with y'all? Man?
Y'all meaning to how y'all feeling? They just be disarmed?
And I try to carry the energy on social media,
you know. But again, it's so easy to kind of
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be a false version of yourself on social media.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
And you can't bump into anybody on social media because
they either commentation that like they found you already or
you found them already, Like there's no happenstance on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
So like that's what I'm saying, King, Like, I don't
let other people create the black energy in the room
when I'm here, Like I'm going to establish it unless
it's already flowing in a way that I think is good. Now,
if it's negative already, like if some shit happened, I'm
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not trying to adjust your energy. I ain't finna be
arguing with you if some shit happen and I getting
what I need and I'm lead, you know what I mean,
unless it's somebody I have a personal vested relationship in
and then I have that access. But man, for the
most part, Man, if I see brothers, I set the
energy myself. I don't give a fuck. Where are they from?
You know what I mean. I let brothers know like that,
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I'm proud of them, you know what I mean, especially
even in this position now, you know, from where I
started at to where I'm at now in my journey
through you know, storytelling and entertainment, like like I'll hit
somebody like it's a cat right now. His name is
Johnny Damn D. He's from Fort Worth, Dallas, Texas. Fort
(29:36):
Worth and Dallas is like ye put the damn in there. No,
that's his name on social media, john km D. And
he has a song called murder Being. You know the
way they dance, you know, they call it jigging and
they be just being in their body. It's like a
wavy thing and it's called murder Being and right and
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it's about you know, how they do their thing in
the streets but still how they having fun. And I
hit him and I'm like, brother, man, whatever this is.
I just love this song, homie. If you need anything,
you just let me know and I slay my Nummiy's
like man, thank you, hommy. And you could just tell like,
you know, brothers, and it ain't just in LA that's
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a lie.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You go to any ghetto where people fighting over limited resources,
It's always gonna be a reserve about how they interact
because they don't quite know what's a threat. That's all
like when somebody hit me up, I automatically think they
think that I'm threatening it. So some people get mad,
Oh why you hit me up? I know why you
hit me up. I look like a threat, So let
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me disarm you. I'm for seven street wise hommy, but
you know, I don't know what y'all got. Now, if
you from somewhere, we got a problem. You know, we
need to exchange cool. But I'm not scared that somebody
perceives me as a threat.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I get it. We fighting over these limited resources. It's
easy to be like, man, this person trying to come
take my life, Take, take my corner. Take. That's how
we we live, trying to protect everything. That's why I
be so proud and I see the success is certain
people that's really navigated way tough situations to find a
level of balance. That is the shit. That's what I'm
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here for. Dog, That's what makes me scream for Kendrick
so loud. Now he kept it solid in moments he
could have eaten. Don't get me wrong. He not a
perfect person, you know what I mean, But he kept
it solid on so many different opportunities. When he could
have folded, He could have could have fold. Man. I
watched people fold all the time. So when I watch greatness, man,
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I be so excited. And that don't even gotta be
you winning a you know, you're performing at the super Bowl,
winning five Grammys for one song. That could be my
homeboy Ron Ron that been at his job for twenty years.
I'm just as happy that could be Mamie Russ telling
me he's been to twelve states and he in that truck,
and I'm man, look at you dog like you know,
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little washboy son Troy. This is my young hoummie. When
he does something great, I tell him I'm proud, and
I know it fucks him up because he knows I
see him as his little boy. Still not that he's
a little boy. This nigga my height. He might be
a LOWD t. If me and some Troy, me and
Washaway fight, it probably be a good fight. He's young
and agile and he's strong, you know what I mean.
I have to use my resources and experience. It's a
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big old young nigga, but it bothers him that I
see him as this kid still. But it's like, I'm
proud you are fucking alive, nigga. I'm proud at you.
Somebody father, I'm proud of you trying to figure it out.
And I don't give a fuck how it make them
feel when I tell them how proud I am of that.
I don't care if it make him embarrassed. I hit Bosco.
I remember I used to see Bosco. I be with
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mac Ten and I would see Bosco. Bosco didn't even talk.
I thought this nigga Becuz was mute. You know what
I'm saying. Ao, Bosco the one making all the jo
Fosco used to just be on bullshit, shut out to Don'ty,
Donut and Underdog and they would come and Fosco, Donut
is co charismatic. So Donut are talking?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You just big light skin dude.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, you just you'll be like I like Donut, that's
Donut is charismatic. Underdog is charismatic too.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
He's Marry Marry cousin said, who donuts like Mary Mary's cousin.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, but I didn't know that. But Donut is charismatic.
So you and me donut even as a game member,
you'll be like, I like that, dude. Bosco just looked
like a fucking problem. And Bosco got the Internet and
start talking and he would just every time it would
just make me flot out laughing. I'm like this, Nigga
really got all his personality. But for years you had
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to be from the bottoms or from families, or you
had to know him to see it. And then one
day that the social media gave him an opportunity and
he was able to just let everybody see it without judgment,
and we got somebody really special to the culture, somebody
really entertaining, really fun and really authentic. And I remember
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hitting him and your ass is funny as fuck. But
I'm so happy you do this, homie. And you could
just tell he was so disarmed, you know what I mean,
because we don't. It's like a fear to go around
showing love. Nigga ain't finna kick your ass if you
show him love. Dog, that's the problem. We didn't like,
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I'm telling King, we didn't lie to ourselves so much
because it's not as received when it's like when it's
not forceful. Well, just like we do everything else forceful.
We gotta show love forceful. If we oppress a line forceful,
you know what I mean? Why not show love for
I show love forceful? Man, hey man, check this out.
And I love what you're doing on me. I am impressed.
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That's what I focus on. Everything in life for me
is shaping up, Like right from the songs, I'm finla release.
I'm having little adversities I have to get over, but
I'm so done with I'm so done with trying to
(35:19):
act like I don't know how this is going to happen.
I know exactly what's gonna happen. I know where I'm going,
I know how high it is up there. I know
what's happening. I know what I really believe in, and
I'm just gonna stop acting like I don't straight up
straight up every day though, Like I want to make
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sure I show love to somebody that I really see
doing a thing, Like I really want to make that up.
And I don't mean just some other entertainer. Shout out
to Johnny Damnde and any other entertainer you know that
has got my attention. And I made sure I let
you know how impressed I was by your your effort, right,
(36:01):
But I mean just regular motherfuckers that came up the
way we came up. You know what I mean, Regular
motherfuckers that came up the way we came up. I
think when they don't get that kind of love, it
turned them into like angry people too. They already angry
because we come from those places, but it makes them angry,
dog like, It makes them even more angry, makes them
(36:22):
feel invisible, and a big fu pe and gangbanging is
feeling invisible. It's why you write your name on the wall. Sure,
you know what I'm saying. You just tired of being invisible,
and whatever it takes to make a motherfucker see you,
that's what you do. So like, I'm gonna make it
my business to do that, and I'm just not going
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to keep like, I'm not going to allow myself any
longer to not just do what I am supposed to do,
you know what I'm saying. Sure, And that's really what
being successful is about, the willingness to do what you're
supposed to do against all doubts, because for sure, it
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wouldn't be success, Like it wouldn't be success if you
were just supposed to be like, like, it wouldn't be
just success if it was given to you. Sometimes even
a simple step forward, Pete, we don't really pay attention
to how progressive that is, just stepping forward just to
sheer mechanics, like my back been hurt and I'm getting
(37:29):
old and if I ain't exercising crazy, my back hurt
like an old fucking man, you know that, right, And
it's like I have to move, I have to box,
I gotta go walk, I gotta hit the soign I got.
I have to write because I'm at that age where
like the car if you know, if you don't greeze
the joints, you know what I mean, you don't get
that blood flowing shit, don't be working out. But I
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say that the same man. It's like, uh, I know
what I'm supposed to be doing. I like, my journey
has never been so clear for like even why I
went through the stuff that I went through, even why
I went through the stuff that I went through, Like
it all makes sense now, so it's time to finish it.
(38:13):
Straight up, it ain't really much who was the craziest
person king that you remember that you was like, damn
that person? End up being okay, wow, that came up
the way we came up, not just through any adversaries,
but our specific adversaries.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Probably named Marty Brown, Marty then Marty Brown. I think
that's probably the nigga that comes to mind that I
seen him lately and he was doing alright, house everything cool,
you know. I think he's the one that really shocked
the boss.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Shout out to my homeboy Sweets, homeboy Shine from HollyHood Sweets.
Was i' me met sweets when I was still selling
PCP every day and we had these fake ass jobs,
like we was keeping the police. We got low riders,
only thirty thousand dollars low riders, but we got these
little jobs that pay a little bit of money and
like the police is food, probably like nineteen twenty one.
(39:10):
But we were still hustling, and Sean worked at the
job with us. It's the only job I ever had.
And Sean worked at the job. And you know, he
was a cold, young power nigga, but he was going
through hell and life at that time. He had a
bunch of shit and I don't even know the depth
of what he had going on. Like I remember he
was telling me he didn't have nowhere to live like
it was just craziness. And fast forward, here we are.
(39:33):
You met Sean. Sean Sweets was the hummy at the
show in Seattle. We went up to Seattle and he
was talking to me the.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
One Jersey did huh that one that Jersey? Yeah yeah, okay, shout.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Out to them me DJ Jersey And he was talking
to me. He bought a house up there, like his
life is changed. And he was arguing on the internet.
And now I remember telling him, like, have you lost
your fucking mind arguing about what like some street shit
on the internet, Like what are you doing? Like, nigga,
look at your life. That's not to say were not
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proud of our experience, but nigga can't. None of these
niggas even argue with us. That's how I feel when
I talk to certain people on the internet about the
music business. Y, I'll be telling me some shit. I'm
looking like, oh, you don't have no fucking idea.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
So let me ask you. So you say he shouldn't
argue about the street stuff, or he should argue people
about the real street stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You at this point, you either could clarify or somebody
could move on. Okay, because the type of people that
will argue with you on the internet about gang shit
are most likely people that's not from gang. Somebody said
that right now, Glass, you proud to be a crip.
Y'all walk around calling each other a gang all day?
What's up? Gang? You just mad that minds actually really
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mean something like it really mean gang? I be like,
what up? Gang? That's because we really gang members. Don't
be jealous. You want to use everything that we are,
but you don't want to actually be obligated to stand
up with somebody no matter if what the laws ay.
You don't want that obligation. You don't want that responsibility,
but you want the coolness of it to call somebody
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gang and to block black black. Yeah, all that's cute.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
It's so funny though, because when you know, when you
was little and you know, and you joint the gang,
they say join, you know, but sometimes you're just born
into your neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
It's just.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, uh, it's funny because you don't imagine to yourself
that this is something really big. You know what I'm saying, like,
this is something really national, and this is you're thinking
about just your neighborhood. You don't be thinking about really
things in other neighborhoods and shit like that to you.
You know, it's not really big. To me, it wasn't big, Like, Okay,
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we just crips in Tacoma and there's other crypts around,
and that's that.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You don't even take that for us in a way
to will tell it to you.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, like we all together thinking about everybody.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
What you're proud to be a crypt. A dude told
me that. He was like, man, how you fifty seven
years old and you you and you and you're still
a crypt. I'm like, shit, the mafia don't retire, neither
does this cripping. Why would I retire from being glasses?
Look for what?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Well, that's what it was said, when you, when you,
when you, when you begin that it's something that you
don't it's just you forever. It's just something.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
How how how like these lessons do you want me
to turn back?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
You know? It's like what you're join's over. It's like
the mafia. Once you join, you know, it's over. It's
that's you for life.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I ain't never going to be a house negro. That
ain't never gonna work out for me. I'm never going
to be this overtly law abiding person.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
I'm gonna be cool to all my life to forever.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It makes too much sense to It makes way too
much sense to me, Pete, to like what, like, how
could you be a law abiding Like when people say
that I'm a proud black American, that's just such an
odd thing. I always say that, like, why not if
you're a proud black man, you should be a proud
American because once you add black, is no way you
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could be proud of this. Mother fact. They foot out
your ass as far as it was because I ain't
took they foot out your ass, Pete. They might have
took the They might have took it from your abdomen
because they had foot all in your ass.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
For oh, they posed it down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
They had foot all your fifteen hundred to nineteen hundred
foot all in your ass, did Jim crow Is they
took it two feet out. Now it's just at your
lower intestine.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
So they trying to get rid of the Rights and
Shit Act.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, Trump, And that's a cold situation because I don't
know enough about politics, but I know if you take
away birthright citizen that probably it's gonna be hard to
get the right dialogue. So I'm just interested to see
what happen. But to be honest, I'm not really scared
about getting reported to wherever my people will be fun.
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I'm not even scared. Like at this point, I'm not
living my life in fear.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I'm not even scared of what they talking about up
and up there in Washington, DC, with Trump and shit
that shit is. It's gonna be a ways before it
gets down to us too together.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I don't give a damn what it is. I don't
give fuck if it was tomorrow. Scoop me up, though,
Fuck it, I start again. That's just why I matter life, Pete.
I'm just that type of motherfucker. Like I start over,
put me in that jeer, I'm gonna get it cracking.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Scoop me up. I might be a spoiled kid leaving
out this door, knocking shit everything over on the way out.
This motherfucker. It's none bad as a motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
What power sh I'm not doing none of that. That day,
me going out the importing me y'all be over there
selling sticks and suitsh you what the fuck ever? They
selling whatever they bund I'm chilling. I'm I'm I'm going
today is the last day. I'm going to act like
I'm not intended to be as great as I am.
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You know, like the closest I could come to humility
is by telling y'all what I've experienced. Reality is we
night and day like, I'm really after it. I want it.
I really want to make sure I put on a
great demonstration for the delegation of people that I represent,
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and I could only get better and better at it. Facts,
So I'm trying to figure out every day when it
comes out, peate that you pre ordered, No, you ain't
got an iTunes So if you listening to this podcast,
My new single Wanted drops on the twenty six. It's
with Jurassic five and La Giants. Obviously I got the
La Giants. It's like my favorite rappers right now. Oh yeah,
(45:48):
I saw that on Instagram. I got Jurassic five on it.
It was really dope putting them back together, and really
the idea for the song was The idea for the
song was like people think backpack and gangster rap is different,
and I'm like, no, it's all street urban culture. So
when I put us together on a song, you're you're
gonna be able to hear exactly what the street urban
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culture is. A lot of people, ever since the Battle
of All Battles last year, there's been a conversation about
what culture. And I'm like, it's street urban culture. It's
the reason why you could put a backpack group like
Jurassic five next to a gangster rap group like La
Johnson Glasses Malone gangst rap acts like and make street
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urban culture that sticks together.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I'll ask you that question. Okay, would you consider La
Giant gangster rap our street urban culture raps gangster rape?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Anytime you ain't abiding by the law, if you like,
if any of your rap's talking about breaking the law,
your ass is a gangster.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Regardless if your official gangster in the gang or not
in the game.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Oh because if it's two or three of y'all, y'all
might be on some gast shit.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Okay, let's make it that clarification.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Gangster rap ain't real gang rap. It was about rap
that was honoree to the system to me.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Okay, No, okay, I get that classification going. Okay, because
I don't want people thinking like the LA giants are
now gang members. No, you know, what I'm saying, like,
I don't want that to be you know out there
like that. That's not fair to them because you know
how people out there were here, oh Glass have said
they do gangs it.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I ain't in the business of clarifying either, you know
what call that, I ain't in the business of explaining.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Look I make well, thank you for clarifying that for me, sir.
I appreciate the art.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Y'all digestive are We're gonna keep it moving, But head
over to iTunes and pre ordered Glasses Malone wanted Jurassic
five pre order on iTunes. Like I'm doing something really
special when it comes to streaming services. And I got
a bunch of other releases that are really unique. So
when you see how they're uploaded and presented, just press
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play and enjoy it and run and tell somebody how
I did it. You know what I mean. It's really important,
Like this is for hip hop, this is for the
independent artist to still be able to thrive in this economy.
Like you cannot let everybody set your licensing fee. If
they're gonna pay you a licensing fee, don't let them
set the rate. You know, the goal is to force
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streaming apps to offer a buy service. There's no reason
why Spotify or a title shouldn't have another department right
next to it in the same app where you could
sell the music in a digital format. People should have
the opportunity to sell the record in a digital format.
So it's about really forcing that into the fold, and
(48:40):
that's my desire. Obviously, they gonna trip with me and
try to you know, but you know it'll work out
for me. It always does, So we're gonna do this
thing again. Head over to iTunes grab Glass is Malone
wanted with Jurassic five. Pre order it. It drops on
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the twenty six. The video is crazy and if you
listening to this podcast, it comes out Tuesday. I know that.
So that Wednesday, you know, we're gonna start putting these
visuals up on the no Selings by Glasses page Pete.
Next time Pete comes, we're gonna have a bunch of
in studio pre recorded ideas, you know what I mean,
(49:25):
So you can have some really good visuals to see
what we do. But we're gonna get about this thing.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Can you kind of get a quick question in first?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Could you explain just from the mechanics of the business
standpoint on the iTunes, So the iTunes, when the song drops,
it's for purchase only. It's not just streaming for free
in the iTunes ether.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Well, so remember Apple and iTunes are separate. iTunes is
an Apple where they sell music, so Apple does have
something even though the iTunes should be a component of Apple.
Like if you put up in a perfect world, what
should happen is you should be able to stream a
snippet of your album right so people can get into it,
and if they like it, there should be an alternative
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thing where they can buy it right there booms and
play it on their Spotify player. And then the people,
the artists who do want people to be able to
stream it, they can have that choice. But there should
be a choice on Spotify, Title and Apple, Amazon anywhere
else where. When you stream music, you can determine how
much of your music you want to stream, and you
(50:34):
should have a by option that should be added to
all of these streaming apps that would actually solve a
lot of problems because streaming does provide a value. It's
like when you would go to Tower Records at one
time and you would listen to the album and then
if you liked it, you could buy it. That's the
same thing that streaming should provide as well. But because
they got the industry by up, well, they got really
(50:57):
because the industry gotta deal with them artists, all hip
hop artists, especially hip hop artists. This is where you
in trouble because they determining your licensing fee. They say, hey,
we're gonna pay you a fraction of a cent, and
it really shouldn't be that simple cut.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
And dry, as like a stop gap in the middle.
Do you think that there would be value for an
artist to put something on Spotify for thirty days and
then pull it and make.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
It a bunch We talked about that. Possibly, possibly, But
the only problem is because I play music like I
only play music from those players. So like when you
play Spotify Music, you play it in a Spotify player,
When you play Apple Music, you play it in an
Apple Player. When you play Title Music, you play it
in a Title player, saying for Amazon, saying for YouTube music.
(51:48):
So it would be a place where you're not playing
music from That could really mess with the experience of
the listener, and it shouldn't be separated like Title has music.
They would make money just as well. But again, they're
trying to convince artists that the music isn't valuable while
they become billionaires and make billions of dollars a year profit,
(52:10):
you know, annually, off of music. So my real argument
at this point is there's no reason why Spotify doesn't
have a buy opportunity or Apple doesn't have a buy
opportunity that's not iTunes or Title or Amazon or YouTube music.
They have it for the films. You could rent a
(52:32):
film for two nine, three ninety nine, or you could
buy a film for ten dollars. Sure, they're only doing
it to us and nobody's paying attention, but that's why. Also,
like I understand why gangbanging mattered. At the end of
the day. It helped me understand culture. It helped me
understand who and what I'm fighting for, and I am focused,
(52:56):
you know what I mean? And it so even just
being a part of what I've been a part of
and understanding it and then learning hip hop, I can
see why this matters. Only this type of attitude of
this person could even make this fight for hip hop, Like,
this wouldn't be a fight that comes from the other side.
This is not a fight that's coming from Snooper scar Face.
They just like, I don't even want to put our
music or I don't even want to put it on
(53:18):
the streaming apps. I'm telling you now, we need to
make Spotify offer a by option. We need to make
YouTube music offer a bi option. We need to make
app one title and Amazon off for a by option.
That option should be available. I should be able to
put my songs up there in a one minute interval,
right you could stream them, listen to a minute long
and if you like it, you buy it and you
(53:38):
get the whole thing. Not yet, Yeah, that to me?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
Like I how do we start to how we get
them to do that?
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Force that pre order want it? Go to iTunes, Glasses, Malone,
Jurassic five, pre order want it? And when it's streams,
stream it the way I've produced it, the way I've uploaded.
I have made it to where at this point a
lot of the streaming apps are going to have to
make some changes, and God willing, everybody that's in the
(54:11):
business see what I'm doing and they start to do
it this way, and the goal would be to force
them to offer a buy option. Okay, that would be
the goal.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
I should be able to It's one thing. You pay
me a fraction of a cent. If they're paying a
fraction of my song, cool, it's a sample. If they
don't want to do it, keep it moving. But if
they like what I'm doing, they should be able to
buy it and then play it on the same player
that they play all the other free music you're giving them.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Right, it doesn't hurt their numbers because they buy a package.
It doesn't hurt their streaming numbers.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
You would still have to go back to the same
app to play the music. Yeah, and you buy a
package anyway for ten bucks a month.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
To hear whatever you want to hear, So buying the
record ain't gonna stop that ten dollars package.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Did this all really falls back on the label? Is
the way that whole paradigm shift happened?
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Is label's fault? Yeah, when you're back in La Pete, I.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
Don't know as needed. I guess I got to probably
go to saying lott if my parents are actually coming
and visiting me for the first time in like three years,
in a couple of weeks. But I could get back
in probably September or something like that. I've got to
figure that out. I don't know what I'm gonna do.
I got a lease ending in September, and I don't
know where I'm gonna live, nor where I want to live,
nor any.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Of the above. What's you're thinking.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
I could stay locally down here, or get like a
multifamily thing somewhere and hide out and just hibernate out
through the winter for six months. I'd rather be in
the rental market in the spring, coming out of the
winter snowbird surge of you know, sucking up all the
(55:51):
empty units. I'd rather be trying to find a place
when they're when everybody just vacated everything and went back
to New York and what everyone's gobbling it up because
they're coming down. And I could just hold up in
a spot and just stack up some money for six months.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
I might be in some random ass town. I might
be in an apartment up the street, no clue.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Pete Man, Pete, I love your life.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
I might.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
I might be in a some weird scenario where I'm
in like a forty five day stop gap in a airbnb.
Some fucking have no idea, but you gotta be you
gotta be agile, you know what I mean. You gotta
be able to stay nimble, and if the there's a
deal on the table, you gotta put your shit in
the storage, in it or whatever the fuck for a while.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
I gotta do it. Hey, That's what I did, Pete.
When I moved down here, I had to do an
airbnb at first for a month. Yeah, didn't come down here.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
I know the feeling.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
Tim was screwed with my credit. I thought I thought
it was a scam, and it turned out it was real.
They're so fuck there's such bullshit artists. So now I'm like,
I just realized it was real. So I'm like, fuck,
I got like, I don't know if I have enough
time because it kicked my credit down just below that
threshold where I don't have to pay extra in an
application process.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
M hm. So I'm like, fuck.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
Think like there's a lag time between when you take
care of something when it actually reflects. So now that
just complicates matters. Because they said for years we build
an advance. I'm like, okay, well I bought my phone
for cash.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
I'm auto billed.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
You bill an advance. You told me I don't owe
you any money when I changed to AT and T,
which was a stupid thing to do, but whatever. And
then all of a sudden, some shit shows up on
my credit like, oh, that's fake, that's fraudulent. Like no,
I call that friend who works for t B because
no build advance, Like I know you said you build advance,
so in advance of the service comes to bill.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
No no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
The bill happens after I'm like, that's the opposite of advance.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
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