September 19, 2025 • 55 mins
In this episode of No Ceilings Podcast, Glasses Malone dives into a thought-provoking conversation on morality, accountability, and the power of public rhetoric. The discussion examines how fictional characters mirror real-life values, the role of accountability in relationships, and the lasting legacy of Martin Luther King Jr. The hosts break down the concept of stochastic terrorism, exploring how rhetoric can indirectly incite violence and shape public behavior. They also highlight hip hop’s role as a voice for the voiceless and the importance of cultural commentary in addressing systemic issues.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No
Sealer's Podcast with your host and now fucked that with
your low glasses Malone. So I was funny, like before
we did this, I was looking at a tweet from
Gina Gena View shout out to Gena Views djhad they
(00:24):
got this amazing show. Uh what's the name of the
damn show? Uh? Effective immediately that's the name of it.
And she had a question that I thought was funny
and it's they content, but I'm gonna use it anyway.
(00:45):
I thought this would be funny to ask you who
is the worst cousin, Ebony from Players Club or Faith
from soulful? Who is the most trifling cousin?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Gotta be able to form plays?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Why is? Why do you pick Ebony over Faith? Ebany
was the one who was that the last thing? Jo, Yeah, No,
Ebony is Ebony from Players Club? Is that's Diamond's cousin.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Diamond's cousin. That's the one, Nah, because she wasn't ship
though she fucked fucked.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Us the dude. But so the Faith Remember Faith slept
with her her cousin's boyfriend in the studio, old boy
that be playing a villain in all the movies.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Uh, he was.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He was in the band. He was in After Seven.
He was in that band.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That might be a spit there, That might be they
both went out bad.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm gonna tell you why I say faith that faith
was grown mm hmm. Ebony was a little dumb ass girl.
I mean, and she was, and she was in a
trifling lifestyle, you know what I mean, like a very
street lifestyle to where she was getting encouraged to make
trifling decisions. Faith was just flat out forever gonna be
(02:07):
trifling faith and soulful. She was just like cold blooded
trifling hm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah. I guess that Karl was breaking up in that
shoe store after she did that. Man, Yeah, the shoe
store she had.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
She got some cold karma.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Faith.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
They're getting no karma. Mm hmm. Fab they're getting no
carmer Terry ran up on her with the knife and
changing faith. Ebony, Yes, don't even get a number on her.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah yet. Yeah. JN wasn't always ain't every move he in.
He just ain't ship well.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And the homy caffeine from sixties. That's the funny part
is I mean, I'm not saying he like you know
he would sexually sort of woman. I'm saying he a
cold dude like that character he plays is not hard
from his personality, not the actual ethics, but the manner
rhysms to get down. That's Cafeen. It's really how he
(03:13):
is as a person, even sixties cold nigg he cool
or I.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Love look you the same one for minutes? Right, Yeah,
Aleena's cousin's cousin. Yeh, Helena.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
He wasn't wrong, right, Like, was he wrong? Was he
wrong for triple king was Doinglena? Or should he stayed
Was that like more dickon pussy? He should have stayed
out of it because it wasn't like Kane was putting
his hands on her. Kane just wasn't fucking with her.
So you know, maybe maybe he's upset because he's denying
(03:47):
his kid. But is it Kinge fath for not believing
because Aileena gave it to Kinge so easy, he probably
thought she was a little skeezer, you know what I mean.
So he was like, man, I don't trust you like
I had to. He had extra type extra man. She's
still a question line. But then but then uh uh,
Caffeine's character comes over there pressing him about how he
(04:10):
interacted with a woman. And it ain't no physical assault
or nothing that involved. It's about how they interacting fucking around.
That's a good question though, like like it is, Uh,
what's the rule for cussing? Came about that?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, he was wrong. He was wrong because you'll do that.
You'll do that if you don't checks the same way.
So why are you gonna be you know what I'm saying,
handle or nothing like that. You know what I'm saying.
He just I mean, what if what if.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You show daughter your daughter and adult and she's twenty
three and she's telling you, Dad, I got pregnant by
this boy, and this boy is saying he don't believe it,
and he like I talked to him about it, and
and he's still like kind of showing me off and
he don't want to take responsibility. As a dad, you
probably wouldn't get involved. You'd be like, you know what,
(04:58):
I'm a back out. I'm not gonna I'm gonna back
off of this. I don't want to be involved. Or
would you be on the boy that your daughter was saying?
You know what I'm saying, this is the dude they
got me, She like, I'm sure he got me pregnant.
I wasn't with nobody else.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We're gonna have to just wait, man, We're gonna have
to wait until I'm saying, the time come to do
it like that. You can't just go pressing it and
making it because I mean, try to make the nigga
set of responsibilities, you know what I'm saying. And you
don't know for sure like that, So I'm just gonna
look at it up. I don't know, I don't know.
That's a situation that you got. Yeah, when you went
to it, When you went into the situation.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Whatuld we bother to talk about is so much deeper
or it felt so much deeper, But this actually is
really deep. Like was Aileena's cousin wrong for President Kane
for impregnating his cousin and then like dog and it
acting like she don't exist after you impregnated her. I mean,
but to Kane's defense, like I said, he felt like
(05:55):
she was a skeezer and he wore condom. Well, it's
interesting to see like perspective, you know what I'm saying,
Like that was that's the type of rap song we
should make. We should make a bunch of rap songs
trap where that'd be the thought of like you know
what I mean, thought of that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Moment, Yeah, situational rap, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We can call it like situation, like a sit kind like.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Situation like shit rap that's dope, like all.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Like these little things like what's funny is? My homeboy
Mike stro did a song from the Dudes that was
Robin Warren's g and Regulate m He when he heard
Tupac months die, he thought it was so dope. He
was like, y'all fin to do this and it's a
dope idea. It just didn't get no coverage. He didn't
know how to do the marketing. I didn't even know
what he did to market it. But the idea was fired.
(06:46):
But imagine we started what's funny is? I came to
I came to high Tech with this idea about four
years ago, Like, bro, we should just do a bunch
of these two sides idea where like we find different
stories and hip hop, but we tell the reverse shot
from the streets perspective. It was like that sounds crazy
(07:07):
and he was kind of down. But I didn't stay
on it, like you know, as a creative like I'll
be having so many dope ideas that I really don't
be married to nothing for the most part for a
long time. But that's definitely one of those ideas we
probably should take Serious'd be dope, no seilings glasses. Luck
(07:28):
got my brother trap Bradshaw right here. You know what
I mean. Pete is, Pete is on the property hunt
somewhere in the south. King is out on the hot day.
I think I'm just joking. King is King. I ain't
tell King I was doing it, but uh, we'll get cracking.
(07:48):
So you see what happened with this man right with
a Charlie Kirk, right, Charlie Kirk. And I've been telling
all for years, and forgive me to all my audience
that is white. I think y'all are racist. And it's
(08:10):
not fault. It's not so far. You've been programmed so long,
you feel me now. It's very few, don't get me wrong.
There are some white folks that I genuinely believe, you know,
I mean, they've had enough experience with black people to
understand that there could be a nuance missing. But for
(08:33):
the most part, now, could you not think you superior
to a group of people, not even one hundred and
fifty years ago you could buy that's like human beings
and dogs as pets. Like humans couldn't help but feel superior.
Even right now, even when they try to treat them
(08:54):
the best that they could. They not asking the dog
what they want for dinner. They just making a dog.
Even in people that be on social media like ig
be cooking for them dogs. You ever seen them, dudes,
They be cooking for the dogs. They got bill, They
be tying bibs around the fucking dogs. And because they
not asking the dog what the dog want to eat,
they eat dog. Won't you fucking cook? So you do
(09:14):
treat that dog better than other people treat their dog,
but you still see it as a dolt. You're not saying, hey,
you don't have to be here if you don't want to.
It ain't a front door policy where they can just
leave and come on. They go as they please, and
it don't matter how old they get. Even when the
dogs pass, you know, for seven years for a dog,
that means by the time they three that dog grown,
you ain't got no open door policy. So I really
(09:38):
feel like, how could white people not know the history?
If white people know the history of how black folks
in America has been treated. You gotta have a superiority complex.
So I always thought that, and I'm noticing it because
it's certain homies that's really gods. I like as people,
people that I've been fucking with for years, and they
(09:59):
are show offended that Charlie Kirkin being labeled, you know,
some of the things he's saying as hate speech or
you know, oppressive rhetoric. But I found the correct word.
It's called stochastic terrorism, now castic terrorism or stochastic terrorism, right.
(10:24):
The term it refers to the form of violence caused
by public rhetoric that is indirect and vague rather than
a direct order.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So's there is There's just this clip going around with
Charlie where he's talking about Michelle Obama, Tangi Brown. He's
talking about four different women. I'm gonna tell you, Charlie Kirk,
(10:55):
Michelle Obama, here you go, right, let me see, and
this is one of those things he said. He was
referring to Michelle Obama, Katanji Brown Jackson, that's her name,
(11:16):
and he named two other sisters. I don't remember which sisters.
I'm gonna try to BEFO, I just jump off and
act like I remember. But you know, Katanji Jackson is
a justice. She's a judge. She's not just some regular position.
And his idea was rooted in d I, right, which
(11:38):
we really would have to go into a whole other
conversation of how gay white men benefit from d I
or single white women or white women in general benefit
from d I.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But for some reason, he mentioned Joy Reed, Michelle Obama,
Sheila Jackson Lee, and Katanji Brown Jackson, and he said
that they didn't have the brain processing power to otherwise
be taken seriously because somewhere along the line they have
(12:08):
mentioned those four women. One of those four women or
two of those four women have mentioned that they are
in they got the opportunity, they got to reach where
they are at because of DI And he was saying,
you know, that may have been a white person more
qualified for the position, right. And so the average person
(12:28):
is taking that specific quote and they're running with it.
They saying, oh, you know what he's saying, Black women
don't have the brain power, right, that's what he's saying.
That's what they think he's saying. That's what they're translating
into but the defense for the average person that's listening,
they're going to say, well, you know, he said these
four black women. He didn't say all black women.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Right. So it's a very vague take to name four
different women. And it looks funny because it's like, you
particularly are targeting for black women. You didn't put in
a white gay male. You didn't put in a white
female who could also be a benefactor of de I
or affirmative action, because they were some of the most
(13:17):
they benefited a lot from those programs. So it's this
kind of indirect thing that he does, Like he said
the thing with with uh the boy from Florida, the
young way that got passed away. He was saying, Trayvon
Martin stopped like he stalked, uh uh what's homieh wow?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I forgot yeah, the man that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Killed him and start pushing his head against the cement, right,
and then the man responded back in a self defense
stand your ground and killed him legally George right. So
it's that type of rhetoric that stochastic or stochastic rhetoric,
(14:08):
that stochastic terrorism that makes people have this thing towards
black people and this is where I know he's really smart.
So somebody asked me that I think he was racist.
I said, I don't even think that's important. Like sometimes
we get into the emotion of does he think white
people are superior or does he think black people are inferior?
(14:29):
Either way, I'm saying the problem is the rhetoric in
general allows people to have these ideas about black people,
like when you use it, like he had another thing
where he talked about race theory, like he's aware that
race theory has been disproving it's not true. It's not
a DNA thing. But then you keep saying things like
black crime and the average person again, like it's a
(14:53):
lot of people who are looking for something to believe
in and they'll hold on to that fact. Maybe it's
a black person that you know they're not a criminal
and they're tired or they're because I don't even think
most black people that are around that are really that
worried and concerned with black crime, like.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
They can't get.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Like homys, you know what I mean. I think it's
a lot of people, right, It's a lot of people,
Like if you grew up in the community, you are
not scared of the community, like nine out of ten people.
Now there are those people that are just cowards, you
know what I mean. They they don't quite know how
to exist because it ain't about gang so much. Where
(15:35):
we grew up at in Wathington, Carington, it's really about
being a man, unapologetically standing your ground. Really just you know,
putting your thing together. Like you you can go where
you want to, especially if you're not a game bag.
Ain't nobody. You just can't be a pump somebody. You know,
if there's a primitive challenge about it, be ready to
(15:56):
stand up for yourself. That's anywhere you go where poor
people at, you know what I mean, it's a different mentality,
you know what I mean. People are going through a lot.
You know what I mean that that oppression is really
taking a toll on people. You know, they can't figure
it out, so it makes them angry, you know, they
frustrated and people want to feel accomplished in any way possible,
(16:18):
you know what I mean. So, but when you're that
person that if you grew up one hundred and seventeenth
Street and you were scared of the people that's from
the neighborhood, I think you a coward.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, there you go with that word again.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm not insulting people when I use that.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
To well, I think it's another I understand exactly what
you're saying as far as that though, you know what
I mean. You shouldn't be you shouldn't be from the
from the jungle and be scared of what's surrounded around
you know what I'm saying. Like that, or be in
the water, be a fish in the water and you're
scared of the shots because the shots going around, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And to me, it's like imagine, like I could see
if it's a lion that's been locked up in captivity
for twenty years, right they were earth and raised in
captivity in the zoo, and then you go put them
out in a jungle and they like, oh, it's a
bunch of lines. But most of these people grow up
in the same environment, but somewhere along the line and
(17:14):
it is some gang bangers to me like that Like
to me, the first thing gang bangers should teach you
is how to stand up against, stand up for yourself.
And the first people you're gonna stand up against is
your own homies, because they're gonna try to pure pressure you.
People got different issues in a community. Some people mothers
on drugs, some people you know, got bullied before. Some
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people had a different life, and they're trying to assert
themselves and gain something for themselves in any way possible.
So it's gonna be a lot of different advice coming
your way, and it's up to you to be a
man and stand up for yourselves. Now, there are a
lot of people that don't believe that that should be
in a car. They should just be able to exist peacefully.
(17:57):
And it's like that's cool, possibly, but if you don't,
you know, does your man go out the door? You know,
does your manhood go out the door. It's like, oh,
you know what, this person is giving me a hard
time that I went to this liquor store, but you
didn't do nothing. Kick his ass, you know what I'm saying.
It's this weird thing, and it's like, oh, you know,
it should be peaceful, and it's like cool, hopefully it should.
(18:20):
But I just don't remember the story of humanity being
that peaceful, you know what I mean. Like, I'm sure
there's more times this, just like in a community, more
times than not there's peace, but the times at an Ape. Shit,
you better be ready to.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Go to war.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Like people be fake hippies fake, they're like, oh peace
peace that. Like somebody was asking me that, Cherry was
asking me that. We was on the phone and she
was like, well, she was complaining to me about something
happening in Huntington Beach where the KKK had supposed to
shut down some kind of blackfest in Huntington Beach. And
(19:01):
I'm telling Sherry Man, why the hell is niggas in
Huntington Beach. She's like, with niggas. Black people should be
able to go wherever day want to. I'm like, you can,
but why would you go move to a place that
is really just a bunch of white people? You get
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Like, yeah, I think that's you want to be.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
In that neighborhood. And like, well, you know, if they do,
I said, I said, they should be doing that event
in wats Content Inglewood, South Central where we at Guardiena.
Guardena is you know a little bit more. You know,
it's a little bit more financially valuable, like things that happening.
It's more affluent in Guardiana. You could tell you to guardena.
But there ain't even enough niggas in Huntington Beach for
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you to be doing nothing. No damn black people in
Huntington Beach, Like you are just shoving and shit in
front of these That's what I don't like, like like,
and she was just explaining that to me, and I'm like,
I'm like the reason they she was complaining. She was saying, well,
you know, if they did it in Compton, it has
(20:02):
a better chance of being shot up. And I'm like, yeah,
it's possible. You know, two people that are feuding, you know,
it could go over the top. That's possible. It's less
than likely Huntington Beach, I said, But the problem is
these moments like this where Huntington Beach reminds you that
you are a nigger.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But my thing is this, right, all right, So if
it's if it looked upon like that, you know what
I'm saying, When when the blacks go to Huntington Beach,
we do you feel like blacks more welcome in because
it's like you've got like Harlem, where now you can
see a white person dragging through Harlem. You know what
I'm saying. And this is what I'm saying walking their
(20:46):
dogs or some shit like that, and we just we
let them go on by and ship like that, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's how it is over there. Like like like in
the in the district that they call Chris Shaw with
the boulevard where we low rider, like that's in the
Rolling thirties neighborhood. That's at the very tippy top of
the Rolling thirty Crip neighborhood. It's not necessarily this welcoming area,
you know what I mean. But it's just where the
city meets up to. It's like the Black Country Club.
(21:14):
It's just where the people that's doing okay for themselves
show off there. They're they're toys, their prize possessions. They fellowship,
they hang out and it's not a ton of drama
all the time, like you know, every now and then
it could be something, but for the most part, people
you know, they coexist really well. You know, it don't
matter from which part of the you know, the county
(21:34):
you from. It's like, okay, your car is nice, bros.
That's really the love comes together because of the passion.
You know, we all have this thing building cars in common.
We have this thing in common. But I'm like, it's
white people over there now, and it didn't used to
be a soul white person. I'm over there short from
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pictures and a white man was jogging with some of
them little shorts and a dog, and I was like,
but but the point is, rest is sure if some
white people did some shit in that community, you know
what I mean, like the police or with you shure,
you might have gotten stole on, you know what I mean,
(22:16):
jogging around there like you know what I mean. So
like I'm not advocating that type of violence. I'm saying,
you know, Huntington Beach is really and I'm not talking
about like, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to
go to hunting t I don't know why a nigga
will go to hundred Beach in the first place. Hundred
Beach it's boiled chicken. Like it's I don't care how
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much money there, it's boiled chicken bro it. They probably
don't even have seasoning in the grocery stores. Like that
type of white place. Now, I'm not saying it's a
sundown town. You're not finna get killed the lynch. I mean,
even if the plan is there they ain't that type
of clan nigga go to hunting to beach and gonna
be fine, put hands on niggas. But what I'm saying,
it's so many white folks there. Why the fuck are
(22:59):
you doing some black people ship there? Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. It's like cool, but I'm just saying,
why would you not do black ship? Take it to
guard dinner bring if you don't want to go to
watch a counter where maybe these communities could have, you know,
rival they could be rival tribes and you don't want
that Guardianna. You know. It's the shotguns and the paybacks,
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you know, and and for the most part, they they
get crazy, but they know how to act. For the
most part, they're a little bit you know, more affluents.
They got a little bit more sense. They they don't
eat bullshit. But I'm saying, it's you can get it
off there. Take it to Ladera. Why the fuck are
you doing it? And fucking you know what I mean?
(23:41):
Huntings in beach.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I'm got area like that over here too. It's like
it's crazy. It's a beach. Also too, they got a
place called Howard Beach. You probably heard of that back
in the days, it was when the.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Place in Brooklyn where like why a taste of soul
in benson Hurst. And I'm not saying you got to
be scared because you can squabble with all these people,
you know what I mean. If it's a squabble, I'm
not saying they're gonna kill you. I don't think they'll
knock you down. And benson Hurst, you white be in
a fight because they're like, what's up with you? Why
are you walking around over here? You know, it's like
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a white person walking through seven. We used to think
every white person if they didn't have a male uniform
on or a police Yeah, white person is walking, that's
the police. He's your taste jail, get your ass out
of here. So I've never been the biggest proponent of integration.
Like like my favorite Martin Luther King's speech everybody knows
(24:39):
is I've been to the mountaintop. That was the last
speech he did, and I think it was wasn't a
Memphis before he before he got assassinated.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, I'm mistaken. I'm thinking is I don't know that
has to be fact, But why is your favorite though?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
What was saying with he just realized that what he
the dream was a nightmare, this world where you know
what I mean, Like he felt he could coexist with
people who didn't want to do right, you know what
I mean, Like like like reparations is about righteous It's
(25:21):
not about racism. It's about righteousness, you know. I mean.
If you if I long you my car right and
you break my car, it's righteous for you to fix it.
So if you broke black people in America, it's righteous
of you to correct it. That's the righteous thing to do.
So I think I think before that he believed in
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the world where you know what, we can figure it
all out, Everything gonna be good, you know what I mean,
long as long as long as we could vote, and
long as we could you know, have the same civil
liberties as a white person versus you know, or not
realizing we start and you know, they already at the
(26:03):
you know, they already at the goal line, they about
to score, and we you know, civil rights is like
we back on the twenty yard we one hundred yards
way back at the twenty yards. And he looked up
and realized, like that's not enough, you know what I'm saying.
And if you listen to my us song. I use
part of that speech where he like, you know, you
need to go down to these corporations and say you
need to make it right with God's children, Like you know,
(26:27):
for years and years and years you've wrong this particular
group of people in this country. Why would you not
make that right? And that should be the demand. A
lot of people think that's what got him killed. Even
during that speech, he was saying, like, man, I might
not live after this shit, Like I might not live,
(26:47):
like I would love to live a long life, you
know what I mean? People streatening his life. He's like,
I would love to live a long life, but you
know what, I just came live this way. He's saying, well,
I don't know what will happen now everybody's spreading his life.
We've got some difficult days ahead, but it really doesn't
(27:10):
matter with me now because I've been to the mountaintop
and I don't mind. Like anybody, I would like to
live a long life. Longevity has its place, but I'm
not concerned about that now. I just want to do
God's will needs allow me to go up to the mountain.
I've looked over and I've seen the promised land. I
(27:30):
may not get there with you, but I want you
to know tonight that we as a people will get
to the Promised Land. So I'm happy tonight and I'm
not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. My
eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You know what I'm saying. And that's why that's the speech.
That's the only speech that matters to me. From Martin
Luther King. They celebrate America teaches you to celebrate that
I have a dream because they want people to see
themselves as if they just what a lot of people
are pushing. This is just what America wants you to do.
They don't want to talk about racism anymore. They with you.
(28:10):
A lot of people like I'm tired of seeing slave movies.
I'm they tired of seeing slave movies. They are tired
of being reminded of what they did wrong. So they
with you. They're tired of having to feel guilty. And
now you got a bunch of people in power that
tired of feeling guilty. They like, you know what, fuck
that like shit, that wasn't our fault. We didn't do it,
(28:33):
Like we need to move on from this, But like
always say, imagine if there's a woman who was sexually
assaulted for like, she was sexually assaulted every day for
twenty years from the age of ten to thirty. She
was sexually assaulted, You feel me sexually assaulted. Maybe it
was a guy that loved her right, so he might
(28:55):
have kissed her and bought her fool sometime, but he
sexually assaulted her every day for twenty years till age
of thirty. That lady is probably gonna be messed up
for the rest of her life. Some women may find
themselves after that. They may go on to have great kids,
you know, figure out life. You know, there are some
women that could deal with that and keep going, but
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most women would be destroyed. And that's what happened to
black people in this country. And guess what that destroyed women.
Even when she has kids trapped, she's gonna raise destroyed children.
And that's a lot of us are just destroyed children
because our mother you know, our mothers have been sexually
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assaulted in this country for years, our ancestors for years,
and their raising lists messed up because they messed up.
And when people don't connect it too, so you got
you know, you got the white folks not feeling like, oh,
you know what, well, I didn't do nothing. Your ancestors
didn't harm me. You benefit from what was done. You
benefit from what was done. So it's like, that's my
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thing with with Charlie Kirk is is that that type
of terrorism where it's just indirect. It's like you're smart
enough to word it to where the average white person
can say it and not feel guilty. When he mentions
four sisters specifically and they be like, well, he's not
saying all sister, You're saying these four sisters because some
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of them are smart, as if they're not smart, you
know what I mean? Like, it's this indirect thing. This
is indirect. It's this public rhetoric that he's doing. That's
that's it's vague and indirect, and it's just it causes
so much harm to black people in this country. It
causes so many people to see most us in a
(30:45):
bad light.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, he said some other shit too though. He said
something about that that he was to get on the
plane and he was to see the pilot be a
black pilot, he wouldn't feel safe.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, and that was rooted in DEI right, that was
that conversation. They got the job. They may have not
been qualified at that position, you know, at that time
in their life, you know what I mean. But they
got the opportunity because they were part of this people,
you know, part of this group of people that have
not been included historically in America. But again, he could
(31:23):
have said, man, if it was a gay pilot, I'd
be worried that person benefit of d I. He could
have said if it was a white woman, you know,
he could have named a million things. But when you
keep mentioning black people, and don't get me wrong, there
are times he's talked about other things. But the problem
is you don't get the luxury of everybody here and everything.
(31:43):
That's why it's important to do what you do with
your words. It's like, as a hip hop person, when
I talk about Drake, you're not gonna find clips of
me saying some shit about Drake that You're just gonna
feel away like nothing I'm doing is in It's like
public rhetoric about hey, you know what, this man ain't talented. Hey,
this man deserved to get his ass kicked. Hey, this
(32:03):
man ain't worthy. Hey this is I'm not taking It's
a specific thing, a critique on specific behavior, and it
ain't about who anybody is, who we grow up. It's
just him. There is nothing that I've done that associates
Jewish people with suing in this conversation, on this whole
conversation that's been happening for seven years. So that type
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of starcastic terrorism or stochastic terrorism is different, just different.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I don't know, man, because when it comes to this,
do it right now, man, it seems as if some
people even got black people standing up and saying certain
things like I seen your girl Kennis Owens was coming
out saying some stuff, and then they said that it
came out there that them two was dating at one point,
(32:57):
you know what I mean. So it was like and
then you got people or that just standing by. He
wasn't wrong for what it was. He definitely was wrong
because he wasn't like you want to come to the
pilot thing. It's like, bro, if he got him, if
he got a chance because he was black though, but
at the same time, he had to take the same
tests at the white people to you know what I'm saying,
want to come to judge they taking the same steps
(33:18):
that anybody else is taking to get to the position
that they got to. I mean, so with then looking
at it the way he was looking at it, and
people thinking that it's all right though, that's what's crazy man. Men. Yeah,
but anybody.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Again again trap, It all comes down to the same thing, bro.
It all comes down to how vague he was when
he spoke it was all. It all came down to
how indirect, like, oh, let me get specific on these
four specific sisters. So when I see people that I
know that are brothers or white folks sharing that and
trying to defend it, I don't know if it's they
(33:53):
simply are just bypassing the obvious, the fact that he
named four sisters and nobody else. Right, Like, I agree,
there is there is bad rhetoric going around that he
said black women. He didn't say that, he named four
specific black women. But the problem is he named four
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black women at the same time, so he could always
stand byle I just say all black women, I said
those No, Bro, that's the problem. If you call four
black women bitches, people may think of you as a misogynist.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Why just say all black women the bitches? Yeah, but
that's the problem, you know what I mean? It's it's
it's vague enough and and and and and irresponsible enough
to make people think that about black women.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
That was the problem. That was the problem. But yepd
was was It was one though.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, and now people comparing it to Martin Luther King,
and it's, yeah, that's crazy political assassination. I'm like, he
wasn't even in the politics. Like, don't get me wrong,
he's a content creator that creates content around politics, you
know what I mean. It's like, no, like he's not
a like he not, he wasn't he never ran it.
(35:18):
I don't. I don't know. Possibly I don't remember hearing
him running in no election or being a campaign that.
I've heard him campaigning for people to some degree, But
I just don't know if it's a political assassination. And
for them to put him next to Martin Luther King
just as crazy, Like what was the group of you know,
what was the group of people he represented? Like I
(35:41):
think there's a delusion that's happening for white men in
his country, Like I saw a group of white men
screaming fight, white men fight, nigga, who are you fighting?
Like y'all been kicking ass in this country since you
got to the shores of this motherfuckerin's the Mayflower. Y'all
(36:01):
been kicking ass. Why don't you finally get your ass kicked?
When did you lose the fight? When did you stop
fighting back? You stop fighting back because other people start
getting opportunities. You just want all opportunities. God damn fight,
white men fight, Try to fight, white men fight. Fight
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whom it was another white man that did that shit.
That was a Republican that just was tired. Now I
see Cannic and all In trying into this big political move.
Oh you know what, he was anti Israel?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Israel.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And I'm not saying none of that ain't true. It's possible,
But why can't it just be like and this is
why be saying when people be like the streets did try,
oh the streets dead. Then why did that man get
shipped for some shit that came out of his mouth
that somebody else didn't like that they felt was indirectly
harmful to them. That is more street than anything in
the world. What can I say, California, When niggas die
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every day over some shit, they say, that's some fact.
You know what I'm saying. And you up there and
this man just got tired. And it was crazy because
right after you said you that same type of shit,
that type of rhetoric that's in directing vague gang violence.
You know, they're talking about mass murder even gang violence.
You know again, like that's like calling wars that same thing.
(37:26):
Like I think some of this stuff, it's like when
I was telling you about the stuff with with Rest
in Peace of Lonely from Chicago. King von call him
a serial killer, and I'm like, bro, they have they
they've gentrified these words to be able to include more
people than themselves. Like a serial killer would be somebody
(37:47):
who would be killing people for no reason, not somebody's
at war, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And they could have a reason. Maybe they don't like
prostitutes or no, like like Domald was. You know, I
don't know why Domald's people. Maybe he was just hungry.
But King Vaughn is at war with other communities and
they're fighting. There's somebody there were people pursuing this man's
death from a rival community. He's fighting survived, he's fighting
(38:16):
to create respect and a fear around his name. He's
fighting for these reasons. He's not killing because he's hungry.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
And it's just weird. Like that man that was in Vegas,
that man that put that that was no reason. He
didn't even know these people.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Te people shot their own concert of me something.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, knocked down fifty sixty people. So some of these work.
Like I don't like that these words are being gentrified
to try to, you know, cause confusion, and now they have.
They people are so confused. I watched so many black people. Again,
I'm not saying you gotta say that man is a racist.
(38:55):
Rest is so I ain't saying you got you don't
see something wrong with the ship. He's saying, you know
what I mean? You you are Stevens from front, you
are Stephen.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I like he might he might not be a racist,
but he resembles one. Though he resembles one.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
We don't know, right, But the problem is the rhetoric
was so harmful to black people that are respected, Martin
Luther King black people that are respected. And if that
doesn't make you feel a certain way, if he doesn't
have enough respect for these people that have made significant
changes and Black America is ridiculous, It's just flat out ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Well, I look at it when it comes to old boy.
Like I said, Man, I look at it as Jeff,
I don't want to say nothing too crazy right now
on the joint though. But we ain't know what it
is though, Man, you know what I mean, it could
have been. It could have if it's rhetoric with a
kept on going on. We don't know where. You know
what I'm saying. We got Donald Trump in office right now.
(39:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Look at they just pressing their lunes so cold and
shout out to my boy. Joker. He told me, he
told me audio. He told me that Disney was some marks.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Oh wait, Jimmy, right, crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Disney got put on a fire. They marked out.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
That was crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
They wrote the jokes.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, proved the jokes. Yeah, that's wow. That to Jimmy though,
it is dirty.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Soon as the fire getting under your tail, right, you
just run. You know what. I'm gonnadrop the show because
I don't want no problems with the presidential cabin.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
That's crazy, this sucker joker.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, I'm finished, call me, call me
no worry, okay, So no, yeah, yeah, joker, Yeah, it joking,
but he told me so that's why I'm saying it.
He he is the person that ship man dude. Just
like they fake they busters, they're they not like you
just see, it's not solid. They're not standing with they people.
(41:07):
This is what I'm saying. People want the death of
the streets, but this is where the streets. You see it.
You could see like they just got marked out. They
just got pumped. They were so scared. All you know,
we're gonna indefinitely take off the show because we don't
want no problem with the This is why hip hop
is needed. Hip Hop was always that voice when everybody
else was scared to say what they thought, whether you
(41:28):
agree or don't agree with the president. Hip hop was
never scared to stand up. Soon as Disney had a
chance to be like a gangster, like, know what, No,
we standing behind this man's comedy. We've been with this
man for years. You guys make jokes about everything else.
Everything is on the table. They was like, you know what, Well,
I don't want no smoke with them. Well, don't want
(41:50):
no smoke. That's not hip hop. No.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
I had to go back then, hip I had to
go back and see what he actually said. You know
what I'm saying, I went back and saying that and
really what he's said. I mean, I don't know how
they took it, like like Trump jumped on that shit
real quick hit.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
What's funny is I am so glad Donald Trump is
the president. I don't care if he's doing a good job.
He is like every American right now. He tweets us thoughts,
he will say something reckless shit. It's a mirror for society.
That's why I could never really be upset. He represents
all of y'all. Oh, y'all, just you know what. I
(42:30):
don't like that the man said he got fire. He
ain't had no talent, like he just real New Yorker.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Disney.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Disney could have shot back and said, nah, man, we're
keeping our show on the ear. We've been making jokes
about everybody. This man's a comedian. Nope, you're gonna pull
the show.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Call. We don't want no smoke, pulling Jimmy crazy. That's
the last late night show. Huh, that's the last late
night show. You pulled the last late night show off
of TV because of the president. If you tell something
about Maga, that's crazy. Man.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
They don't want no smoke.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, they don't want no smoke, but they I mean,
like Disney, they kind of sick into the script though too,
because if anybody, if you, if you were Disney, and
you get it. But they ain't gint no trouble though.
That's a great thing about it. He ain't get no trouble.
He did. He was doing his job, you know what
I'm saying. That's not like Shannon. But Shannon got cool.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
But this is my problem. They took his whole show off.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, yeah, the whole show.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Off, bro like, and they could have stood up with him,
and they released the statement saying that like, oh, you
know what, we don't want no problem with the with
with with you know, with the presidential cabinet. We don't
want no issue with them. And they didn't stick with him.
That's the thing I love about the streets. This is
why I like being a street dude better than everybody else.
And all of y'all who listen to my podcast and
think I'll be tripping about the streets, y'all feel like
(43:50):
I'm too. You know what, a homie would have never
did nothing like that. Homie would have never just left
you out to drive like that. That's the point of it.
That's the pride, and that's the pride. You pride yourself
is standing with your armies. Lord knows.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
When they write it almost makes me feel like I
ain't want no problems because they got you know, they
got some chilling behind that curtain.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Disney has been taking criticism over the last five six
years because they have been, you know, they have been
very open with the support of LGBTQ stuff, knowing that
their platform is the kids. So they're you debate going
on about sexually what's the word, what's the correct word,
(44:32):
almost like programming or pre selling chip. I don't know
if it's fair. I don't want to accuse them of
nothing that's crazy. I'm just not what they're saying though, right,
I'm saying but they're already saying, hey, these things exist
in the world today to people who probably don't even
have the type of understanding to understand it. Right, it's
(44:53):
just like here it is. And they've been taking criticism
for years. People been like, man, it's some bullshit, and
they've been just standing on the square. But you got
a time to stand on the comedian making a joke
and it wasn't even like this harsh joke. It was
like some real med joke. Y'all was like, oh, you know,
(45:15):
we don't want no smoke, We don't want no smoke.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
But he told me, he said them dudes is marks,
and they is and they just showed their face.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
They definitely did. They jumped ship on him real quick.
They ain't let that like the bone the next day, right.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
You know what Trump and Tho Trump did, President Line
Trump did some New York Times. Trump is definitely terrorizing
because they was popping the shit on Trump and he
getting back at them. But stand your ground, bro, thug
it out. But you not gonna be able to get
no money in this town if you be a pump. Listen,
I get it. There's a nigga moment and then there's
(45:57):
a man moment like a nigga moment. Is might do
some bullshit and you just ignore it and you just
keep going, you know what I mean. Cool, You don't
have to let every situation drag you into this problem.
But man, that was one of those situations where you
could have stood up and actually been stumped down and
you didn't. So different actors do it, did Trump?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
So whether Trump Trump called for his firing, Trump was like, yo, listen,
I want Jimmy out of there.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
No, he didn't even say that. I mean, at least
publicly is not said. Yeah, but they put out a
statement saying this was a preemptive move so that they
don't draw any ire from the presidential cabinet.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Mm hmm, so he stated, So we don't know. He
stated that the that the shooter was a Maga said.
He said, that's when Trump.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Kind of claimed themselves. They mean, you know, this little
dude been shooting forever. They Republicans, you know what I mean.
And again, look, it's possible that this is driven by
a much bigger situation, or it could just be one
person tired. You know, I don't like this guy. He
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coming to my town. I'm gonna bump him off.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Either way.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
It's horrible, but it's just very odd trap when you
you know what I mean, It's like, it's just very odd, bro, Like,
it's just odd. You start to see how many people
in the world as pumps.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, I think there's more pot town. Man, It's more
liquid side up on this earth, man, you know what
I'm saying. And that's the way the should go, or
that's the way it go, though, you know, what I mean.
So there's pumps when it's sign step up and be
you know what I'm saying, be there. They're gonna turn
the state water man. Lookuid right there, That's what.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
It exactly like. We're gonna dog. And somebody was telling me,
I didn't watch the thug interview, you know what I mean.
I'm probably gonna have to check it out eventually, but
they were saying how hurt he sounded when he was
talking about gunning, Like, bro, you just did that and
just got out and just live your life like nothing.
And it's a world full of people that are cowards
(48:12):
that think that's okay, and they find some way to
think that's okay. It's almost unbelievable. I notice that, like
people just don't care. They're like, you know what, it's like,
it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
I don't get the people that just think like that.
That's what then I could really have conversations with some
money with things that way. I try to I try
to cut the conversation short, you know what I'm saying.
What people have been showing more more and more on
their true colors and how they think about shit like
that though.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
And they try to and they try their best to
make it like, oh, I don't care about that street.
This don't have nothing to do with those streets stuff.
This is about accountability as a man. If you were
able to benefit from this, if you were practicing and
saying that you are a gang member, you're a gang member.
He is a gang member practicing saying it, benefiting from
this movement in all the terror. If that's true of
what they cause you or benefiting from it, you feel me.
(49:05):
So now when it's time to pay the piper, right,
this is the moment to stand down and be with it.
Because you got a great lawyer, you got some money,
you know what I mean? You not really at least
from based off what they say. You not really deep
in the cage. They don't have you. You could have
rolled it out and been a hero. Could have came
home and did the same thing and be like, man,
I'm changing my life, you know what I mean, Because
(49:27):
that was a He could have did the same thing
and with that he'd had way more respect from everybody
in the world. Everybody in the world. He'd had way
more respect from everybody. But just because you rebrand and
you get muscles in a six pack and you hang
with athletes. You're still a pump, still a bitch, You're
still a man, You not a you don't want to
be accountable. Forgive me if you think it's a bitch.
(49:49):
I'm not insulting you. I'm saying you acting like a woman.
You don't want to be accountable for your actions. So
you're gonna pivot out of this life, you know what
I mean, and be like, well, I'm gonna go over
here because I don't want to have to deal with
with the ramifications of what you did here. And that's
the average person. The average person runs from responsibility. So
really not proposed to.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
So I heard a breakdown like this, right, it was
it was like and this goes like all the people
that taught that civilian ship, right, So they go like, Yo,
let's just say you at work, right and your coworker
keeps showing up for work. Are you the co worker
showing up for work late? Every day? You know what
I'm saying? And then and then, and then your coworker
goes to the boss and goes, Yo, so and so
(50:30):
showing up for work work late every day? What are
they what do they consider? Right there? You know what
I'm saying, you're considering them to be a rap mother.
You know what I'm saying, That shit go on the civilian
life though too civilian, Like you can do some second
ship through too, you know what I mean. It's many
different ways that it just say. It just ain't cool,
you know what I'm saying. It wasn't cool at all?
What do you did? You know what I mean? And
(50:52):
I don't know how the peoples keep getting away with
the civilian ship. And that he wasn't that part of it.
That wasn't his life. And this that this's here.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
It wasn't just not his life when he's ad crip,
that's what he said. He had the hummy rescue soul
in the video. He had innate in the video clip.
You got blue band down on your head. How you're
not a part of the life now, you know what
I'm saying. And and and but that's this, that's this
whole same kind of broad spectrum that people are existing in,
(51:19):
you know what I mean, where like somebody like Charlie Kirk,
mind you remove the word racist, right if you not?
If you can't see that, fine, you know I mean,
if that if that needs to be a little bit
more defined for you whatever. But if you don't see
real problems in his rhetoric, you know what I mean,
That's where I'm starting to be like, y'all just cowards,
(51:42):
and then they feel like they not because they're like, well,
I'm taking a stand. That's on it. You saying that
on the internet. If you win the barbershop, you start
telling people that that somebody will beat your ass.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Ain't getting no cut that day?
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Your ass beat you over here trying to sound half
of this stuff people are saying when you say that
in the boss so somebody will whoop your ass. It
would be accountability. Y'all just sit on the internet and
hide behind these screens and these things and you live
your life and this level of just comfort where you
could actually be the coward you want to be.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
And to me, like.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
That particular man, Charlie Kirk, you know what I'm saying,
It's like you were taking and I think he did
it on purpose, Like I'm smart enough and I know
he's smart enough to understand what he's doing. Even if
you didn't believe this, because I saw pictures of him
young with black girls, and so that means you really
knew what you was doing, and people hide it under
(52:40):
the guise of truth, like, oh, he's telling the truth.
You don't know the truth. How would you know that
if it's not a fact? Oh you know they are
d I like, Bro, these are ridiculous debates. But I'm
telling you this what just happened. It's gonna really show
us who everybody is. We're about to see every he
(53:00):
is right now, right now, ever since that man got
killed at that white in that white state, by that
white man, all the white people in the tendance, It's
gonna show us who America really is. It's gonna show
us who white people really are. It's gonna show us
who most of the brothers is. It's gonna show everybody everything.
This is the year of the reveal. Bro, we are
(53:22):
really seeing. Like I've been telling niggas for years, Me
and you both agreed that Drake wasn't hip hop niggas is.
This is the year of the reveal. You seeing white
people at their most animalistic, horrifying, just worse you seeing it.
You seeing black people start to put on you know
(53:43):
what I mean, They turning into Stevens from Django or
Hopping Bob from Life you've seen it in real life.
You seeing it, and this is the moment, but hip
hop to truly rise again. Here's the opportunity, the opportunity
when Disney doesn't have courage, when when right now everybody scared,
(54:05):
people losing their jobs. Oh man, if I say something
about this person, I'm gonna lose my job. People scared,
and they got everybody scared. This is just like the
eighties when hip hop came in public. Enemays like man,
I don't care. N WA's like, man, I don't care,
you know what I mean? And here is hip hop's
moment to stand up.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
We always been the voice of the voiceless man. That's
the voice of the voiceless man. That's what That's what
it always was. That's what hip hop was. Was brought
here for it to be.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Every Disney, multi billion dollar legacy company. Disney scared scared.
Hip Hop ain't scared. So you know, here's the moments.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, Who're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're
gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Let's know, shit, I don't even know. I've been waiting
for this moment. I only lasted this long. This moment.
God preserved me for this moment.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, for this moment. I mean, listen, man, you got
you got plenty of home of access and ways of
getting this. You know what I'm saying, this message and
this moment out there, I mean, from the podcast to
the music to the live she you know what I'm saying.
Let your voice be hearning. Make sure you could they
you know what I'm saying here or they understand what
(55:26):
you're coming where you're coming from though, Man, you know
what I mean, Utilize this, Utilize your and know what
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What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No
Sealer's Podcast with your host and now fucked that with
your low glasses Malone. So I was funny, like before
we did this, I was looking at a tweet from
Gina Gena View shout out to Gena Views djhad they
(00:24):
got this amazing show. Uh what's the name of the
damn show? Uh? Effective immediately that's the name of it.
And she had a question that I thought was funny
and it's they content, but I'm gonna use it anyway.
(00:45):
I thought this would be funny to ask you who
is the worst cousin, Ebony from Players Club or Faith
from soulful? Who is the most trifling cousin?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Gotta be able to form plays?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Why is? Why do you pick Ebony over Faith? Ebany
was the one who was that the last thing? Jo, Yeah, No,
Ebony is Ebony from Players Club? Is that's Diamond's cousin.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Diamond's cousin. That's the one, Nah, because she wasn't ship
though she fucked fucked.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Us the dude. But so the Faith Remember Faith slept
with her her cousin's boyfriend in the studio, old boy
that be playing a villain in all the movies.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Uh, he was.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
He was in the band. He was in After Seven.
He was in that band.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That might be a spit there, That might be they
both went out bad.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm gonna tell you why I say faith that faith
was grown mm hmm. Ebony was a little dumb ass girl.
I mean, and she was, and she was in a
trifling lifestyle, you know what I mean, like a very
street lifestyle to where she was getting encouraged to make
trifling decisions. Faith was just flat out forever gonna be
(02:07):
trifling faith and soulful. She was just like cold blooded
trifling hm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah. I guess that Karl was breaking up in that
shoe store after she did that. Man, Yeah, the shoe
store she had.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
She got some cold karma.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Faith.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
They're getting no karma. Mm hmm. Fab they're getting no
carmer Terry ran up on her with the knife and
changing faith. Ebony, Yes, don't even get a number on her.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah yet. Yeah. JN wasn't always ain't every move he in.
He just ain't ship well.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And the homy caffeine from sixties. That's the funny part
is I mean, I'm not saying he like you know
he would sexually sort of woman. I'm saying he a
cold dude like that character he plays is not hard
from his personality, not the actual ethics, but the manner
rhysms to get down. That's Cafeen. It's really how he
(03:13):
is as a person, even sixties cold nigg he cool
or I.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Love look you the same one for minutes? Right, Yeah,
Aleena's cousin's cousin. Yeh, Helena.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
He wasn't wrong, right, Like, was he wrong? Was he
wrong for triple king was Doinglena? Or should he stayed
Was that like more dickon pussy? He should have stayed
out of it because it wasn't like Kane was putting
his hands on her. Kane just wasn't fucking with her.
So you know, maybe maybe he's upset because he's denying
(03:47):
his kid. But is it Kinge fath for not believing
because Aileena gave it to Kinge so easy, he probably
thought she was a little skeezer, you know what I mean.
So he was like, man, I don't trust you like
I had to. He had extra type extra man. She's
still a question line. But then but then uh uh,
Caffeine's character comes over there pressing him about how he
(04:10):
interacted with a woman. And it ain't no physical assault
or nothing that involved. It's about how they interacting fucking around.
That's a good question though, like like it is, Uh,
what's the rule for cussing? Came about that?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, he was wrong. He was wrong because you'll do that.
You'll do that if you don't checks the same way.
So why are you gonna be you know what I'm saying,
handle or nothing like that. You know what I'm saying.
He just I mean, what if what if.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You show daughter your daughter and adult and she's twenty
three and she's telling you, Dad, I got pregnant by
this boy, and this boy is saying he don't believe it,
and he like I talked to him about it, and
and he's still like kind of showing me off and
he don't want to take responsibility. As a dad, you
probably wouldn't get involved. You'd be like, you know what,
(04:58):
I'm a back out. I'm not gonna I'm gonna back
off of this. I don't want to be involved. Or
would you be on the boy that your daughter was saying?
You know what I'm saying, this is the dude they
got me, She like, I'm sure he got me pregnant.
I wasn't with nobody else.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
We're gonna have to just wait, man, We're gonna have
to wait until I'm saying, the time come to do
it like that. You can't just go pressing it and
making it because I mean, try to make the nigga
set of responsibilities, you know what I'm saying. And you
don't know for sure like that, So I'm just gonna
look at it up. I don't know, I don't know.
That's a situation that you got. Yeah, when you went
to it, When you went into the situation.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Whatuld we bother to talk about is so much deeper
or it felt so much deeper, But this actually is
really deep. Like was Aileena's cousin wrong for President Kane
for impregnating his cousin and then like dog and it
acting like she don't exist after you impregnated her. I mean,
but to Kane's defense, like I said, he felt like
(05:55):
she was a skeezer and he wore condom. Well, it's
interesting to see like perspective, you know what I'm saying,
Like that was that's the type of rap song we
should make. We should make a bunch of rap songs
trap where that'd be the thought of like you know
what I mean, thought of that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Moment, Yeah, situational rap, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We can call it like situation, like a sit kind like.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Situation like shit rap that's dope, like all.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Like these little things like what's funny is? My homeboy
Mike stro did a song from the Dudes that was
Robin Warren's g and Regulate m He when he heard
Tupac months die, he thought it was so dope. He
was like, y'all fin to do this and it's a
dope idea. It just didn't get no coverage. He didn't
know how to do the marketing. I didn't even know
what he did to market it. But the idea was fired.
(06:46):
But imagine we started what's funny is? I came to
I came to high Tech with this idea about four
years ago, Like, bro, we should just do a bunch
of these two sides idea where like we find different
stories and hip hop, but we tell the reverse shot
from the streets perspective. It was like that sounds crazy
(07:07):
and he was kind of down. But I didn't stay
on it, like you know, as a creative like I'll
be having so many dope ideas that I really don't
be married to nothing for the most part for a
long time. But that's definitely one of those ideas we
probably should take Serious'd be dope, no seilings glasses. Luck
(07:28):
got my brother trap Bradshaw right here. You know what
I mean. Pete is, Pete is on the property hunt
somewhere in the south. King is out on the hot day.
I think I'm just joking. King is King. I ain't
tell King I was doing it, but uh, we'll get cracking.
(07:48):
So you see what happened with this man right with
a Charlie Kirk, right, Charlie Kirk. And I've been telling
all for years, and forgive me to all my audience
that is white. I think y'all are racist. And it's
(08:10):
not fault. It's not so far. You've been programmed so long,
you feel me now. It's very few, don't get me wrong.
There are some white folks that I genuinely believe, you know,
I mean, they've had enough experience with black people to
understand that there could be a nuance missing. But for
(08:33):
the most part, now, could you not think you superior
to a group of people, not even one hundred and
fifty years ago you could buy that's like human beings
and dogs as pets. Like humans couldn't help but feel superior.
Even right now, even when they try to treat them
(08:54):
the best that they could. They not asking the dog
what they want for dinner. They just making a dog.
Even in people that be on social media like ig
be cooking for them dogs. You ever seen them, dudes,
They be cooking for the dogs. They got bill, They
be tying bibs around the fucking dogs. And because they
not asking the dog what the dog want to eat,
they eat dog. Won't you fucking cook? So you do
(09:14):
treat that dog better than other people treat their dog,
but you still see it as a dolt. You're not saying, hey,
you don't have to be here if you don't want to.
It ain't a front door policy where they can just
leave and come on. They go as they please, and
it don't matter how old they get. Even when the
dogs pass, you know, for seven years for a dog,
that means by the time they three that dog grown,
you ain't got no open door policy. So I really
(09:38):
feel like, how could white people not know the history?
If white people know the history of how black folks
in America has been treated. You gotta have a superiority complex.
So I always thought that, and I'm noticing it because
it's certain homies that's really gods. I like as people,
people that I've been fucking with for years, and they
(09:59):
are show offended that Charlie Kirkin being labeled, you know,
some of the things he's saying as hate speech or
you know, oppressive rhetoric. But I found the correct word.
It's called stochastic terrorism, now castic terrorism or stochastic terrorism, right.
(10:24):
The term it refers to the form of violence caused
by public rhetoric that is indirect and vague rather than
a direct order.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So's there is There's just this clip going around with
Charlie where he's talking about Michelle Obama, Tangi Brown. He's
talking about four different women. I'm gonna tell you, Charlie Kirk,
(10:55):
Michelle Obama, here you go, right, let me see, and
this is one of those things he said. He was
referring to Michelle Obama, Katanji Brown Jackson, that's her name,
(11:16):
and he named two other sisters. I don't remember which sisters.
I'm gonna try to BEFO, I just jump off and
act like I remember. But you know, Katanji Jackson is
a justice. She's a judge. She's not just some regular position.
And his idea was rooted in d I, right, which
(11:38):
we really would have to go into a whole other
conversation of how gay white men benefit from d I
or single white women or white women in general benefit
from d I.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But for some reason, he mentioned Joy Reed, Michelle Obama,
Sheila Jackson Lee, and Katanji Brown Jackson, and he said
that they didn't have the brain processing power to otherwise
be taken seriously because somewhere along the line they have
(12:08):
mentioned those four women. One of those four women or
two of those four women have mentioned that they are
in they got the opportunity, they got to reach where
they are at because of DI And he was saying,
you know, that may have been a white person more
qualified for the position, right. And so the average person
(12:28):
is taking that specific quote and they're running with it.
They saying, oh, you know what he's saying, Black women
don't have the brain power, right, that's what he's saying.
That's what they think he's saying. That's what they're translating
into but the defense for the average person that's listening,
they're going to say, well, you know, he said these
four black women. He didn't say all black women.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Right. So it's a very vague take to name four
different women. And it looks funny because it's like, you
particularly are targeting for black women. You didn't put in
a white gay male. You didn't put in a white
female who could also be a benefactor of de I
or affirmative action, because they were some of the most
(13:17):
they benefited a lot from those programs. So it's this
kind of indirect thing that he does, Like he said
the thing with with uh the boy from Florida, the
young way that got passed away. He was saying, Trayvon
Martin stopped like he stalked, uh uh what's homieh wow?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I forgot yeah, the man that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Killed him and start pushing his head against the cement, right,
and then the man responded back in a self defense
stand your ground and killed him legally George right. So
it's that type of rhetoric that stochastic or stochastic rhetoric,
(14:08):
that stochastic terrorism that makes people have this thing towards
black people and this is where I know he's really smart.
So somebody asked me that I think he was racist.
I said, I don't even think that's important. Like sometimes
we get into the emotion of does he think white
people are superior or does he think black people are inferior?
(14:29):
Either way, I'm saying the problem is the rhetoric in
general allows people to have these ideas about black people,
like when you use it, like he had another thing
where he talked about race theory, like he's aware that
race theory has been disproving it's not true. It's not
a DNA thing. But then you keep saying things like
black crime and the average person again, like it's a
(14:53):
lot of people who are looking for something to believe
in and they'll hold on to that fact. Maybe it's
a black person that you know they're not a criminal
and they're tired or they're because I don't even think
most black people that are around that are really that
worried and concerned with black crime, like.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
They can't get.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Like homys, you know what I mean. I think it's
a lot of people, right, It's a lot of people,
Like if you grew up in the community, you are
not scared of the community, like nine out of ten people.
Now there are those people that are just cowards, you
know what I mean. They they don't quite know how
to exist because it ain't about gang so much. Where
(15:35):
we grew up at in Wathington, Carington, it's really about
being a man, unapologetically standing your ground. Really just you know,
putting your thing together. Like you you can go where
you want to, especially if you're not a game bag.
Ain't nobody. You just can't be a pump somebody. You know,
if there's a primitive challenge about it, be ready to
(15:56):
stand up for yourself. That's anywhere you go where poor
people at, you know what I mean, it's a different mentality,
you know what I mean. People are going through a lot.
You know what I mean that that oppression is really
taking a toll on people. You know, they can't figure
it out, so it makes them angry, you know, they
frustrated and people want to feel accomplished in any way possible,
(16:18):
you know what I mean. So, but when you're that
person that if you grew up one hundred and seventeenth
Street and you were scared of the people that's from
the neighborhood, I think you a coward.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, there you go with that word again.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm not insulting people when I use that.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
To well, I think it's another I understand exactly what
you're saying as far as that though, you know what
I mean. You shouldn't be you shouldn't be from the
from the jungle and be scared of what's surrounded around
you know what I'm saying. Like that, or be in
the water, be a fish in the water and you're
scared of the shots because the shots going around, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And to me, it's like imagine, like I could see
if it's a lion that's been locked up in captivity
for twenty years, right they were earth and raised in
captivity in the zoo, and then you go put them
out in a jungle and they like, oh, it's a
bunch of lines. But most of these people grow up
in the same environment, but somewhere along the line and
(17:14):
it is some gang bangers to me like that Like
to me, the first thing gang bangers should teach you
is how to stand up against, stand up for yourself.
And the first people you're gonna stand up against is
your own homies, because they're gonna try to pure pressure you.
People got different issues in a community. Some people mothers
on drugs, some people you know, got bullied before. Some
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people had a different life, and they're trying to assert
themselves and gain something for themselves in any way possible.
So it's gonna be a lot of different advice coming
your way, and it's up to you to be a
man and stand up for yourselves. Now, there are a
lot of people that don't believe that that should be
in a car. They should just be able to exist peacefully.
(17:57):
And it's like that's cool, possibly, but if you don't,
you know, does your man go out the door? You know,
does your manhood go out the door. It's like, oh,
you know what, this person is giving me a hard
time that I went to this liquor store, but you
didn't do nothing. Kick his ass, you know what I'm saying.
It's this weird thing, and it's like, oh, you know,
it should be peaceful, and it's like cool, hopefully it should.
(18:20):
But I just don't remember the story of humanity being
that peaceful, you know what I mean. Like, I'm sure
there's more times this, just like in a community, more
times than not there's peace, but the times at an Ape. Shit,
you better be ready to.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Go to war.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Like people be fake hippies fake, they're like, oh peace
peace that. Like somebody was asking me that, Cherry was
asking me that. We was on the phone and she
was like, well, she was complaining to me about something
happening in Huntington Beach where the KKK had supposed to
shut down some kind of blackfest in Huntington Beach. And
(19:01):
I'm telling Sherry Man, why the hell is niggas in
Huntington Beach. She's like, with niggas. Black people should be
able to go wherever day want to. I'm like, you can,
but why would you go move to a place that
is really just a bunch of white people? You get
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Like, yeah, I think that's you want to be.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
In that neighborhood. And like, well, you know, if they do,
I said, I said, they should be doing that event
in wats Content Inglewood, South Central where we at Guardiena.
Guardena is you know a little bit more. You know,
it's a little bit more financially valuable, like things that happening.
It's more affluent in Guardiana. You could tell you to guardena.
But there ain't even enough niggas in Huntington Beach for
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you to be doing nothing. No damn black people in
Huntington Beach, Like you are just shoving and shit in
front of these That's what I don't like, like like,
and she was just explaining that to me, and I'm like,
I'm like the reason they she was complaining. She was saying, well,
you know, if they did it in Compton, it has
(20:02):
a better chance of being shot up. And I'm like, yeah,
it's possible. You know, two people that are feuding, you know,
it could go over the top. That's possible. It's less
than likely Huntington Beach, I said, But the problem is
these moments like this where Huntington Beach reminds you that
you are a nigger.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But my thing is this, right, all right, So if
it's if it looked upon like that, you know what
I'm saying, When when the blacks go to Huntington Beach,
we do you feel like blacks more welcome in because
it's like you've got like Harlem, where now you can
see a white person dragging through Harlem. You know what
I'm saying. And this is what I'm saying walking their
(20:46):
dogs or some shit like that, and we just we
let them go on by and ship like that, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's how it is over there. Like like like in
the in the district that they call Chris Shaw with
the boulevard where we low rider, like that's in the
Rolling thirties neighborhood. That's at the very tippy top of
the Rolling thirty Crip neighborhood. It's not necessarily this welcoming area,
you know what I mean. But it's just where the
city meets up to. It's like the Black Country Club.
(21:14):
It's just where the people that's doing okay for themselves
show off there. They're they're toys, their prize possessions. They fellowship,
they hang out and it's not a ton of drama
all the time, like you know, every now and then
it could be something, but for the most part, people
you know, they coexist really well. You know, it don't
matter from which part of the you know, the county
(21:34):
you from. It's like, okay, your car is nice, bros.
That's really the love comes together because of the passion.
You know, we all have this thing building cars in common.
We have this thing in common. But I'm like, it's
white people over there now, and it didn't used to
be a soul white person. I'm over there short from
(21:54):
pictures and a white man was jogging with some of
them little shorts and a dog, and I was like,
but but the point is, rest is sure if some
white people did some shit in that community, you know
what I mean, like the police or with you shure,
you might have gotten stole on, you know what I mean,
(22:16):
jogging around there like you know what I mean. So
like I'm not advocating that type of violence. I'm saying,
you know, Huntington Beach is really and I'm not talking
about like, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to
go to hunting t I don't know why a nigga
will go to hundred Beach in the first place. Hundred
Beach it's boiled chicken. Like it's I don't care how
(22:37):
much money there, it's boiled chicken bro it. They probably
don't even have seasoning in the grocery stores. Like that
type of white place. Now, I'm not saying it's a
sundown town. You're not finna get killed the lynch. I mean,
even if the plan is there they ain't that type
of clan nigga go to hunting to beach and gonna
be fine, put hands on niggas. But what I'm saying,
it's so many white folks there. Why the fuck are
(22:59):
you doing some black people ship there? Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. It's like cool, but I'm just saying,
why would you not do black ship? Take it to
guard dinner bring if you don't want to go to
watch a counter where maybe these communities could have, you know,
rival they could be rival tribes and you don't want
that Guardianna. You know. It's the shotguns and the paybacks,
(23:21):
you know, and and for the most part, they they
get crazy, but they know how to act. For the
most part, they're a little bit you know, more affluents.
They got a little bit more sense. They they don't
eat bullshit. But I'm saying, it's you can get it
off there. Take it to Ladera. Why the fuck are
you doing it? And fucking you know what I mean?
(23:41):
Huntings in beach.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I'm got area like that over here too. It's like
it's crazy. It's a beach. Also too, they got a
place called Howard Beach. You probably heard of that back
in the days, it was when the.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Place in Brooklyn where like why a taste of soul
in benson Hurst. And I'm not saying you got to
be scared because you can squabble with all these people,
you know what I mean. If it's a squabble, I'm
not saying they're gonna kill you. I don't think they'll
knock you down. And benson Hurst, you white be in
a fight because they're like, what's up with you? Why
are you walking around over here? You know, it's like
(24:16):
a white person walking through seven. We used to think
every white person if they didn't have a male uniform
on or a police Yeah, white person is walking, that's
the police. He's your taste jail, get your ass out
of here. So I've never been the biggest proponent of integration.
Like like my favorite Martin Luther King's speech everybody knows
(24:39):
is I've been to the mountaintop. That was the last
speech he did, and I think it was wasn't a
Memphis before he before he got assassinated.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, I'm mistaken. I'm thinking is I don't know that
has to be fact, But why is your favorite though?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
What was saying with he just realized that what he
the dream was a nightmare, this world where you know
what I mean, Like he felt he could coexist with
people who didn't want to do right, you know what
I mean, Like like like reparations is about righteous It's
(25:21):
not about racism. It's about righteousness, you know. I mean.
If you if I long you my car right and
you break my car, it's righteous for you to fix it.
So if you broke black people in America, it's righteous
of you to correct it. That's the righteous thing to do.
So I think I think before that he believed in
(25:41):
the world where you know what, we can figure it
all out, Everything gonna be good, you know what I mean,
long as long as long as we could vote, and
long as we could you know, have the same civil
liberties as a white person versus you know, or not
realizing we start and you know, they already at the
(26:03):
you know, they already at the goal line, they about
to score, and we you know, civil rights is like
we back on the twenty yard we one hundred yards
way back at the twenty yards. And he looked up
and realized, like that's not enough, you know what I'm saying.
And if you listen to my us song. I use
part of that speech where he like, you know, you
need to go down to these corporations and say you
need to make it right with God's children, Like you know,
(26:27):
for years and years and years you've wrong this particular
group of people in this country. Why would you not
make that right? And that should be the demand. A
lot of people think that's what got him killed. Even
during that speech, he was saying, like, man, I might
not live after this shit, Like I might not live,
(26:47):
like I would love to live a long life, you
know what I mean? People streatening his life. He's like,
I would love to live a long life, but you
know what, I just came live this way. He's saying, well,
I don't know what will happen now everybody's spreading his life.
We've got some difficult days ahead, but it really doesn't
(27:10):
matter with me now because I've been to the mountaintop
and I don't mind. Like anybody, I would like to
live a long life. Longevity has its place, but I'm
not concerned about that now. I just want to do
God's will needs allow me to go up to the mountain.
I've looked over and I've seen the promised land. I
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may not get there with you, but I want you
to know tonight that we as a people will get
to the Promised Land. So I'm happy tonight and I'm
not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. My
eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You know what I'm saying. And that's why that's the speech.
That's the only speech that matters to me. From Martin
Luther King. They celebrate America teaches you to celebrate that
I have a dream because they want people to see
themselves as if they just what a lot of people
are pushing. This is just what America wants you to do.
They don't want to talk about racism anymore. They with you.
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A lot of people like I'm tired of seeing slave movies.
I'm they tired of seeing slave movies. They are tired
of being reminded of what they did wrong. So they
with you. They're tired of having to feel guilty. And
now you got a bunch of people in power that
tired of feeling guilty. They like, you know what, fuck
that like shit, that wasn't our fault. We didn't do it,
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Like we need to move on from this, But like
always say, imagine if there's a woman who was sexually
assaulted for like, she was sexually assaulted every day for
twenty years from the age of ten to thirty. She
was sexually assaulted, You feel me sexually assaulted. Maybe it
was a guy that loved her right, so he might
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have kissed her and bought her fool sometime, but he
sexually assaulted her every day for twenty years till age
of thirty. That lady is probably gonna be messed up
for the rest of her life. Some women may find
themselves after that. They may go on to have great kids,
you know, figure out life. You know, there are some
women that could deal with that and keep going, but
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most women would be destroyed. And that's what happened to
black people in this country. And guess what that destroyed women.
Even when she has kids trapped, she's gonna raise destroyed children.
And that's a lot of us are just destroyed children
because our mother you know, our mothers have been sexually
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assaulted in this country for years, our ancestors for years,
and their raising lists messed up because they messed up.
And when people don't connect it too, so you got
you know, you got the white folks not feeling like, oh,
you know what, well, I didn't do nothing. Your ancestors
didn't harm me. You benefit from what was done. You
benefit from what was done. So it's like, that's my
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thing with with Charlie Kirk is is that that type
of terrorism where it's just indirect. It's like you're smart
enough to word it to where the average white person
can say it and not feel guilty. When he mentions
four sisters specifically and they be like, well, he's not
saying all sister, You're saying these four sisters because some
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of them are smart, as if they're not smart, you
know what I mean? Like, it's this indirect thing. This
is indirect. It's this public rhetoric that he's doing. That's
that's it's vague and indirect, and it's just it causes
so much harm to black people in this country. It
causes so many people to see most us in a
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bad light.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, he said some other shit too though. He said
something about that that he was to get on the
plane and he was to see the pilot be a
black pilot, he wouldn't feel safe.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, and that was rooted in DEI right, that was
that conversation. They got the job. They may have not
been qualified at that position, you know, at that time
in their life, you know what I mean. But they
got the opportunity because they were part of this people,
you know, part of this group of people that have
not been included historically in America. But again, he could
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have said, man, if it was a gay pilot, I'd
be worried that person benefit of d I. He could
have said if it was a white woman, you know,
he could have named a million things. But when you
keep mentioning black people, and don't get me wrong, there
are times he's talked about other things. But the problem
is you don't get the luxury of everybody here and everything.
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That's why it's important to do what you do with
your words. It's like, as a hip hop person, when
I talk about Drake, you're not gonna find clips of
me saying some shit about Drake that You're just gonna
feel away like nothing I'm doing is in It's like
public rhetoric about hey, you know what, this man ain't talented. Hey,
this man deserved to get his ass kicked. Hey, this
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man ain't worthy. Hey this is I'm not taking It's
a specific thing, a critique on specific behavior, and it
ain't about who anybody is, who we grow up. It's
just him. There is nothing that I've done that associates
Jewish people with suing in this conversation, on this whole
conversation that's been happening for seven years. So that type
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of starcastic terrorism or stochastic terrorism is different, just different.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I don't know, man, because when it comes to this,
do it right now, man, it seems as if some
people even got black people standing up and saying certain
things like I seen your girl Kennis Owens was coming
out saying some stuff, and then they said that it
came out there that them two was dating at one point,
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you know what I mean. So it was like and
then you got people or that just standing by. He
wasn't wrong for what it was. He definitely was wrong
because he wasn't like you want to come to the
pilot thing. It's like, bro, if he got him, if
he got a chance because he was black though, but
at the same time, he had to take the same
tests at the white people to you know what I'm saying,
want to come to judge they taking the same steps
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that anybody else is taking to get to the position
that they got to. I mean, so with then looking
at it the way he was looking at it, and
people thinking that it's all right though, that's what's crazy man. Men. Yeah,
but anybody.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Again again trap, It all comes down to the same thing, bro.
It all comes down to how vague he was when
he spoke it was all. It all came down to
how indirect, like, oh, let me get specific on these
four specific sisters. So when I see people that I
know that are brothers or white folks sharing that and
trying to defend it, I don't know if it's they
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simply are just bypassing the obvious, the fact that he
named four sisters and nobody else. Right, Like, I agree,
there is there is bad rhetoric going around that he
said black women. He didn't say that, he named four
specific black women. But the problem is he named four
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black women at the same time, so he could always
stand byle I just say all black women, I said
those No, Bro, that's the problem. If you call four
black women bitches, people may think of you as a misogynist.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Why just say all black women the bitches? Yeah, but
that's the problem, you know what I mean? It's it's
it's vague enough and and and and and irresponsible enough
to make people think that about black women.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
That was the problem. That was the problem. But yepd
was was It was one though.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, and now people comparing it to Martin Luther King,
and it's, yeah, that's crazy political assassination. I'm like, he
wasn't even in the politics. Like, don't get me wrong,
he's a content creator that creates content around politics, you
know what I mean. It's like, no, like he's not
a like he not, he wasn't he never ran it.
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I don't. I don't know. Possibly I don't remember hearing
him running in no election or being a campaign that.
I've heard him campaigning for people to some degree, But
I just don't know if it's a political assassination. And
for them to put him next to Martin Luther King
just as crazy, Like what was the group of you know,
what was the group of people he represented? Like I
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think there's a delusion that's happening for white men in
his country, Like I saw a group of white men
screaming fight, white men fight, nigga, who are you fighting?
Like y'all been kicking ass in this country since you
got to the shores of this motherfuckerin's the Mayflower. Y'all
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been kicking ass. Why don't you finally get your ass kicked?
When did you lose the fight? When did you stop
fighting back? You stop fighting back because other people start
getting opportunities. You just want all opportunities. God damn fight,
white men fight, Try to fight, white men fight. Fight
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whom it was another white man that did that shit.
That was a Republican that just was tired. Now I
see Cannic and all In trying into this big political move.
Oh you know what, he was anti Israel?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Israel.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And I'm not saying none of that ain't true. It's possible,
But why can't it just be like and this is
why be saying when people be like the streets did try,
oh the streets dead. Then why did that man get
shipped for some shit that came out of his mouth
that somebody else didn't like that they felt was indirectly
harmful to them. That is more street than anything in
the world. What can I say, California, When niggas die
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every day over some shit, they say, that's some fact.
You know what I'm saying. And you up there and
this man just got tired. And it was crazy because
right after you said you that same type of shit,
that type of rhetoric that's in directing vague gang violence.
You know, they're talking about mass murder even gang violence.
You know again, like that's like calling wars that same thing.
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Like I think some of this stuff, it's like when
I was telling you about the stuff with with Rest
in Peace of Lonely from Chicago. King von call him
a serial killer, and I'm like, bro, they have they
they've gentrified these words to be able to include more
people than themselves. Like a serial killer would be somebody
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who would be killing people for no reason, not somebody's
at war, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And they could have a reason. Maybe they don't like
prostitutes or no, like like Domald was. You know, I
don't know why Domald's people. Maybe he was just hungry.
But King Vaughn is at war with other communities and
they're fighting. There's somebody there were people pursuing this man's
death from a rival community. He's fighting survived, he's fighting
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to create respect and a fear around his name. He's
fighting for these reasons. He's not killing because he's hungry.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
And it's just weird. Like that man that was in Vegas,
that man that put that that was no reason. He
didn't even know these people.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Te people shot their own concert of me something.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, knocked down fifty sixty people. So some of these work.
Like I don't like that these words are being gentrified
to try to, you know, cause confusion, and now they have.
They people are so confused. I watched so many black people. Again,
I'm not saying you gotta say that man is a racist.
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Rest is so I ain't saying you got you don't
see something wrong with the ship. He's saying, you know
what I mean? You you are Stevens from front, you
are Stephen.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I like he might he might not be a racist,
but he resembles one. Though he resembles one.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
We don't know, right, But the problem is the rhetoric
was so harmful to black people that are respected, Martin
Luther King black people that are respected. And if that
doesn't make you feel a certain way, if he doesn't
have enough respect for these people that have made significant
changes and Black America is ridiculous, It's just flat out ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Well, I look at it when it comes to old boy.
Like I said, Man, I look at it as Jeff,
I don't want to say nothing too crazy right now
on the joint though. But we ain't know what it
is though, Man, you know what I mean, it could
have been. It could have if it's rhetoric with a
kept on going on. We don't know where. You know
what I'm saying. We got Donald Trump in office right now.
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You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Look at they just pressing their lunes so cold and
shout out to my boy. Joker. He told me, he
told me audio. He told me that Disney was some marks.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Oh wait, Jimmy, right, crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Disney got put on a fire. They marked out.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
That was crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
They wrote the jokes.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, proved the jokes. Yeah, that's wow. That to Jimmy though,
it is dirty.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Soon as the fire getting under your tail, right, you
just run. You know what. I'm gonnadrop the show because
I don't want no problems with the presidential cabin.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
That's crazy, this sucker joker.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, I'm finished, call me, call me
no worry, okay, So no, yeah, yeah, joker, Yeah, it joking,
but he told me so that's why I'm saying it.
He he is the person that ship man dude. Just
like they fake they busters, they're they not like you
just see, it's not solid. They're not standing with they people.
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This is what I'm saying. People want the death of
the streets, but this is where the streets. You see it.
You could see like they just got marked out. They
just got pumped. They were so scared. All you know,
we're gonna indefinitely take off the show because we don't
want no problem with the This is why hip hop
is needed. Hip Hop was always that voice when everybody
else was scared to say what they thought, whether you
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agree or don't agree with the president. Hip hop was
never scared to stand up. Soon as Disney had a
chance to be like a gangster, like, know what, No,
we standing behind this man's comedy. We've been with this
man for years. You guys make jokes about everything else.
Everything is on the table. They was like, you know what, Well,
I don't want no smoke with them. Well, don't want
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no smoke. That's not hip hop. No.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
I had to go back then, hip I had to
go back and see what he actually said. You know
what I'm saying, I went back and saying that and
really what he's said. I mean, I don't know how
they took it, like like Trump jumped on that shit
real quick hit.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
What's funny is I am so glad Donald Trump is
the president. I don't care if he's doing a good job.
He is like every American right now. He tweets us thoughts,
he will say something reckless shit. It's a mirror for society.
That's why I could never really be upset. He represents
all of y'all. Oh, y'all, just you know what. I
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don't like that the man said he got fire. He
ain't had no talent, like he just real New Yorker.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Disney.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Disney could have shot back and said, nah, man, we're
keeping our show on the ear. We've been making jokes
about everybody. This man's a comedian. Nope, you're gonna pull
the show.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Call. We don't want no smoke, pulling Jimmy crazy. That's
the last late night show. Huh, that's the last late
night show. You pulled the last late night show off
of TV because of the president. If you tell something
about Maga, that's crazy. Man.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
They don't want no smoke.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, they don't want no smoke, but they I mean,
like Disney, they kind of sick into the script though too,
because if anybody, if you, if you were Disney, and
you get it. But they ain't gint no trouble though.
That's a great thing about it. He ain't get no trouble.
He did. He was doing his job, you know what
I'm saying. That's not like Shannon. But Shannon got cool.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
But this is my problem. They took his whole show off.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, yeah, the whole show.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Off, bro like, and they could have stood up with him,
and they released the statement saying that like, oh, you
know what, we don't want no problem with the with
with with you know, with the presidential cabinet. We don't
want no issue with them. And they didn't stick with him.
That's the thing I love about the streets. This is
why I like being a street dude better than everybody else.
And all of y'all who listen to my podcast and
think I'll be tripping about the streets, y'all feel like
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I'm too. You know what, a homie would have never
did nothing like that. Homie would have never just left
you out to drive like that. That's the point of it.
That's the pride, and that's the pride. You pride yourself
is standing with your armies. Lord knows.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
When they write it almost makes me feel like I
ain't want no problems because they got you know, they
got some chilling behind that curtain.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Disney has been taking criticism over the last five six
years because they have been, you know, they have been
very open with the support of LGBTQ stuff, knowing that
their platform is the kids. So they're you debate going
on about sexually what's the word, what's the correct word,
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almost like programming or pre selling chip. I don't know
if it's fair. I don't want to accuse them of
nothing that's crazy. I'm just not what they're saying though, right,
I'm saying but they're already saying, hey, these things exist
in the world today to people who probably don't even
have the type of understanding to understand it. Right, it's
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just like here it is. And they've been taking criticism
for years. People been like, man, it's some bullshit, and
they've been just standing on the square. But you got
a time to stand on the comedian making a joke
and it wasn't even like this harsh joke. It was
like some real med joke. Y'all was like, oh, you know,
(45:15):
we don't want no smoke, We don't want no smoke.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
But he told me, he said them dudes is marks,
and they is and they just showed their face.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
They definitely did. They jumped ship on him real quick.
They ain't let that like the bone the next day, right.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
You know what Trump and Tho Trump did, President Line
Trump did some New York Times. Trump is definitely terrorizing
because they was popping the shit on Trump and he
getting back at them. But stand your ground, bro, thug
it out. But you not gonna be able to get
no money in this town if you be a pump. Listen,
I get it. There's a nigga moment and then there's
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a man moment like a nigga moment. Is might do
some bullshit and you just ignore it and you just
keep going, you know what I mean. Cool, You don't
have to let every situation drag you into this problem.
But man, that was one of those situations where you
could have stood up and actually been stumped down and
you didn't. So different actors do it, did Trump?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
So whether Trump Trump called for his firing, Trump was like, yo, listen,
I want Jimmy out of there.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
No, he didn't even say that. I mean, at least
publicly is not said. Yeah, but they put out a
statement saying this was a preemptive move so that they
don't draw any ire from the presidential cabinet.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Mm hmm, so he stated, So we don't know. He
stated that the that the shooter was a Maga said.
He said, that's when Trump.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Kind of claimed themselves. They mean, you know, this little
dude been shooting forever. They Republicans, you know what I mean.
And again, look, it's possible that this is driven by
a much bigger situation, or it could just be one
person tired. You know, I don't like this guy. He
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coming to my town. I'm gonna bump him off.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Either way.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
It's horrible, but it's just very odd trap when you
you know what I mean, It's like, it's just very odd, bro, Like,
it's just odd. You start to see how many people
in the world as pumps.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, I think there's more pot town. Man, It's more
liquid side up on this earth, man, you know what
I'm saying. And that's the way the should go, or
that's the way it go, though, you know, what I mean.
So there's pumps when it's sign step up and be
you know what I'm saying, be there. They're gonna turn
the state water man. Lookuid right there, That's what.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
It exactly like. We're gonna dog. And somebody was telling me,
I didn't watch the thug interview, you know what I mean.
I'm probably gonna have to check it out eventually, but
they were saying how hurt he sounded when he was
talking about gunning, Like, bro, you just did that and
just got out and just live your life like nothing.
And it's a world full of people that are cowards
(48:12):
that think that's okay, and they find some way to
think that's okay. It's almost unbelievable. I notice that, like
people just don't care. They're like, you know what, it's like,
it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
I don't get the people that just think like that.
That's what then I could really have conversations with some
money with things that way. I try to I try
to cut the conversation short, you know what I'm saying.
What people have been showing more more and more on
their true colors and how they think about shit like
that though.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
And they try to and they try their best to
make it like, oh, I don't care about that street.
This don't have nothing to do with those streets stuff.
This is about accountability as a man. If you were
able to benefit from this, if you were practicing and
saying that you are a gang member, you're a gang member.
He is a gang member practicing saying it, benefiting from
this movement in all the terror. If that's true of
what they cause you or benefiting from it, you feel me.
(49:05):
So now when it's time to pay the piper, right,
this is the moment to stand down and be with it.
Because you got a great lawyer, you got some money,
you know what I mean? You not really at least
from based off what they say. You not really deep
in the cage. They don't have you. You could have
rolled it out and been a hero. Could have came
home and did the same thing and be like, man,
I'm changing my life, you know what I mean, Because
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that was a He could have did the same thing
and with that he'd had way more respect from everybody
in the world. Everybody in the world. He'd had way
more respect from everybody. But just because you rebrand and
you get muscles in a six pack and you hang
with athletes. You're still a pump, still a bitch, You're
still a man, You not a you don't want to
be accountable. Forgive me if you think it's a bitch.
(49:49):
I'm not insulting you. I'm saying you acting like a woman.
You don't want to be accountable for your actions. So
you're gonna pivot out of this life, you know what
I mean, and be like, well, I'm gonna go over
here because I don't want to have to deal with
with the ramifications of what you did here. And that's
the average person. The average person runs from responsibility. So
really not proposed to.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
So I heard a breakdown like this, right, it was
it was like and this goes like all the people
that taught that civilian ship, right, So they go like, Yo,
let's just say you at work, right and your coworker
keeps showing up for work. Are you the co worker
showing up for work late? Every day? You know what
I'm saying? And then and then, and then your coworker
goes to the boss and goes, Yo, so and so
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showing up for work work late every day? What are
they what do they consider? Right there? You know what
I'm saying, you're considering them to be a rap mother.
You know what I'm saying, That shit go on the civilian
life though too civilian, Like you can do some second
ship through too, you know what I mean. It's many
different ways that it just say. It just ain't cool,
you know what I'm saying. It wasn't cool at all?
What do you did? You know what I mean? And
(50:52):
I don't know how the peoples keep getting away with
the civilian ship. And that he wasn't that part of it.
That wasn't his life. And this that this's here.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
It wasn't just not his life when he's ad crip,
that's what he said. He had the hummy rescue soul
in the video. He had innate in the video clip.
You got blue band down on your head. How you're
not a part of the life now, you know what
I'm saying. And and and but that's this, that's this
whole same kind of broad spectrum that people are existing in,
(51:19):
you know what I mean, where like somebody like Charlie Kirk,
mind you remove the word racist, right if you not?
If you can't see that, fine, you know I mean,
if that if that needs to be a little bit
more defined for you whatever. But if you don't see
real problems in his rhetoric, you know what I mean,
That's where I'm starting to be like, y'all just cowards,
(51:42):
and then they feel like they not because they're like, well,
I'm taking a stand. That's on it. You saying that
on the internet. If you win the barbershop, you start
telling people that that somebody will beat your ass.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Ain't getting no cut that day?
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Your ass beat you over here trying to sound half
of this stuff people are saying when you say that
in the boss so somebody will whoop your ass. It
would be accountability. Y'all just sit on the internet and
hide behind these screens and these things and you live
your life and this level of just comfort where you
could actually be the coward you want to be.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
And to me, like.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
That particular man, Charlie Kirk, you know what I'm saying,
It's like you were taking and I think he did
it on purpose, Like I'm smart enough and I know
he's smart enough to understand what he's doing. Even if
you didn't believe this, because I saw pictures of him
young with black girls, and so that means you really
knew what you was doing, and people hide it under
(52:40):
the guise of truth, like, oh, he's telling the truth.
You don't know the truth. How would you know that
if it's not a fact? Oh you know they are
d I like, Bro, these are ridiculous debates. But I'm
telling you this what just happened. It's gonna really show
us who everybody is. We're about to see every he
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is right now, right now, ever since that man got
killed at that white in that white state, by that
white man, all the white people in the tendance, It's
gonna show us who America really is. It's gonna show
us who white people really are. It's gonna show us
who most of the brothers is. It's gonna show everybody everything.
This is the year of the reveal. Bro, we are
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really seeing. Like I've been telling niggas for years, Me
and you both agreed that Drake wasn't hip hop niggas is.
This is the year of the reveal. You seeing white
people at their most animalistic, horrifying, just worse you seeing it.
You seeing black people start to put on you know
(53:43):
what I mean, They turning into Stevens from Django or
Hopping Bob from Life you've seen it in real life.
You seeing it, and this is the moment, but hip
hop to truly rise again. Here's the opportunity, the opportunity
when Disney doesn't have courage, when when right now everybody scared,
(54:05):
people losing their jobs. Oh man, if I say something
about this person, I'm gonna lose my job. People scared,
and they got everybody scared. This is just like the
eighties when hip hop came in public. Enemays like man,
I don't care. N WA's like, man, I don't care,
you know what I mean? And here is hip hop's
moment to stand up.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
We always been the voice of the voiceless man. That's
the voice of the voiceless man. That's what That's what
it always was. That's what hip hop was. Was brought
here for it to be.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Every Disney, multi billion dollar legacy company. Disney scared scared.
Hip Hop ain't scared. So you know, here's the moments.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, Who're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're
gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Let's know, shit, I don't even know. I've been waiting
for this moment. I only lasted this long. This moment.
God preserved me for this moment.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, for this moment. I mean, listen, man, you got
you got plenty of home of access and ways of
getting this. You know what I'm saying, this message and
this moment out there, I mean, from the podcast to
the music to the live she you know what I'm saying.
Let your voice be hearning. Make sure you could they
you know what I'm saying here or they understand what
(55:26):
you're coming where you're coming from though, Man, you know
what I mean, Utilize this, Utilize your and know what
I'm saying your former communication. That's it. That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
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