Conversations On Why You Can’t Be Hip Hop and Anti-Street

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What's low? What's low?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I watched the Atlanta Police Department put out a report.
So so one thing that I appreciate about the lunch
hour is somehow we end up forming these really deeper conversations.
Now we don't have the shallow conversation because we don't
have like a daily show. No, this ain't necessarily like

(01:40):
the view like No Sinners lunch Hour. It's not really
like a like a gossip type of stream shout out
to the homies that you know that that comment on
current events.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
But I truly.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Like to believe people that sit at the lunch table
really be digging for something deeper.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
They're digging for something deeper, Like the goal is to
get into a much richer conversation that's progressive. Sometimes I
try to take that conversation to ADHD, and I realize
people just think they like, nah, I'm cool. I'd just
rather troll and fuck around. But I notice right here
we always do. So even when I'm about to talk

(02:23):
about this little baby thing, it's not really about the
current event as much as watching the Atlanta Police Department
weaponize their media process against Little Baby's brand, you know
what I'm saying, Like, I didn't like that, and we
were sharing it in the group chat with the homie

(02:44):
shout out to ad punk problem Manny, and they reported
that two thirteen year old boys had got killed, you know,
in the middle of this conflict, right, because so what
that's supposed to happen, Pete, was Little.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Baby was shooting a music video.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
At least this is what the police said, that Little
Baby was shooting a video right in a particular part
of Atlanta that's not necessarily.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Where he grew up at, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
And somebody over in that particular area that grew up
there doesn't favor Little Baby. So when the word got
back to this particular person who was supposed to be
doing time that he green lit, you know, he told them, hey,
don't let them shoot the video over there, kind of
like what Biggie did to snoop In them back in
ninety five, Like, don't shoot the video over there. So

(03:41):
the young boys get some guns and they shoot up
Little Babies video, shoot and the crew and they end
up hitting three people. You know what, I mean shot
three people. I'm not sure if they're members of four
PF the regular label or whatnot, but.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Three people got Scott over there, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
And obviously, now you know street urban culture, especially in
street life for real, you know, retribution is at hand.
You know, revenge is swift, justice is swift. So it's
been back and forth for people been getting hurt. Fine,
police need to do their job, you know, keeping law

(04:19):
in order. Respect. That can't really argue with that. I
wouldn't participate in helping you because we could deal with
it ourselves. But I'm not mad that society, you know,
society deems that this is their law enforcement to keep
a level of justice in order. So things been going
back and forth. Fast forward, here we are today when

(04:40):
the police puts out this report. Hey, it's a little
baby fault. This is the synopsis. Now we have two
thirteen year old little dudes that got killed, you know,
and his little baby fault because he went over there
and shot his music. Now crazy, whether or not that's
the truth, that's that's a raggedy thing to do for

(05:01):
the police.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
It's just bad business.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
You're supposed to be a professional organization. You're not supposed
to be trying to effectively bring that type of darkness
to somebody brand. You're supposed to be solving crimes. And
then the crime itself, right that you're trying to accuse
this man of, is what damages his brand. Fine, right,

(05:27):
So we're in the group chat and problem says mane.
You know, two thirteen year old boys got killed. You know,
I don't give it damn what they do to him.
And it rubbed me a funny way. And I noticed
certain things rubbed me a really weird way.

Speaker 1 (05:47):

Speaker 3 (05:48):
It's like when I hear hip hop artists speak anti street. Now,
street is a very simple, right, It's very much where
crime is present, and crime somewhat can be a little

(06:08):
more normalized in this particular part of the town than
anywhere else. Because if you commit a if you live
in a high class suburb neighborhood, you commit a crime
like let's say the Menendez brothers, right, the Menendez brothers
where they broke into some house and robbed a bunch

(06:31):
of people and they went to jail for that. Them
guys still don't become street niggas because they broke in
somebody's houses in Beverly Hills. So this is where kind
of the understanding of what's happening and the conditions are cultivating,
if that makes sense, right, Pete. So when I hear
somebody say, oh, you know what, what's wrong?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Right?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
And that's the difference in the conversations, right, trap is
are we saying we don't understand when people shoot each other?

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Like?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Am I against that? Or am I against someone shooting
somebody unjustly?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Since less violence? Man's against? Right there?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Though it's right, that's a good point, since now if
I can make sense out of it, like Tupac shooting
is not senseless violence. Culturally, it's not senseless violence. This
is how we know accountability, right Culturally, how this works.
If you unjustly attack somebody, if you and a group

(07:40):
of guys go kick ass, you know you don't give
this person a fair opportunity, right, then pretty much the
community understands a couple of y'all niggas might get shot.
Now again, I'm not asking mainstream America to understand that.
That's what While they have the police and the societal

(08:02):
laws to come in and say, hey, we don't want
that happening.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
So when somebody's asking me, is it wrong? Hell no,
it ain't wrong because if all ten of y'all jump
on me, I'm popping you motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
So I don't care what the law thinks.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
As long as I'm willing to be held accountable by
the law, then I'm.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
In perfect standard.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
But it's like, I notice that there's a huge rhetoric
in hip hop that's happening right because there's a bunch
of people who didn't grow up and culturally involved that
now have a voice. And this is the thing, right,
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am not saying I am not saying, Hey, you know what.

(09:36):
I don't get it. I don't get it. Shout out
to Daan Sax, who brings up a great point. Shout
out to the lunch table. What up, Teeth, what up?
Queen lady Yat?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
No cut?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Hey, welcome to the lunch table. No cut, I know
I see you on Sundays. Brody, Welcome to the lunch
table west Side. Thank you for moderating squitch somewhere right here.
I don't know what she had fast my tager, Dan Tree,
Noah roughiand Jeremiah, what's happening. Let's let's get the cooking.
If I miss you, make sure you let me know
I miss you. Damn Sacks. If ten people run up
on you, it's legal to defend. It's not legal to

(10:10):
kill them. It's not that's not legal in California. That's
legal in another state. In California, ten people kicking your
ass and you pull a gun when you shoot somebody,
it's against the law.

Speaker 7 (10:23):
Now you think, when ten people run up on you,
what's their intentions? Ain't their intentions? Ain't if there's ten
people doing it and their intentions ain't we're gonna beat you up.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
They ain't gonna mind killing you.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I'm still in California. Ten people can kick your ass.
If you shoot a gun, it's against the law. But
I'm not a sense of self defense. I'm talking about
if y'all ten people kick my ass and I hunt
and shoot you motherfuckers down, that's against the law, even

(10:54):
that sense of justice. So yeah, So when people saying
shout out to the lunch table, who is tech to me? Hey,
you know what self defense is? Self defense in California,
ain't ef somebody fighting you to use a gun. Like
in Florida, if somebody kicking your ass, one person kicking
your ass, you can shoot them.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
You can back them down real quick. That is not legal.
I think Georgia too.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, in part two, I don't give a fuck what
the law say. As a black man in America, I
respect every brother in this room.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
That is worried about what the law say.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
You have missed stuck on the plantation, my boy master coming.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
I am.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I am more a fan and and uh and a
citizen of what's right. I'm gonna do what's right. The
law ain't right all the time. The law ain't right
all the time. So I don't care what the law say. No,
we don't all follow the law, then we don't you

(12:02):
follow the law. I don't all follow the law. Our
participate in things that make sense for me. But my
sense of morality is greater than the state of California
in America, period, because for sure, I would be smart
enough in the fifteen hundreds and sixteen hundreds to know
slavery shouldn't be obviously legal. So because they thought that obviously,

(12:27):
they have a history of being wrong.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Can you be anti?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
That's why hip hop is not about being anti against
crime as much as it's anti against what's wrong.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Like the morality changes in hip hop? Is that fair to.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Say, oh, what do you think that it changes?

Speaker 5 (12:55):
I mean the law from the American law.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
It's certainly different. I mean it's different out of the box.
So I mean, yeah, I mean if you're passing through
one space to it another, there's a change.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
I wouldn't disagree with that at all.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
So I think that god.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Hip hop has its own laws.

Speaker 7 (13:21):
I think all drama to music basically comes along like that,
like you got, you got country music that was outlaw music.

Speaker 1 (13:27):

Speaker 7 (13:28):
I think I think when you when you speak to
the matches, it's a lot of it comes comes across
as being rebel music and going against you know what
I'm saying, the norms of what's going on and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
But hip hop definitely stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I'm not disagreeing, but I'm saying hip hop primarily minus
the genre. Like maybe in pop music, if you tell
the police to not be held accountable for something you
did wrong, and pop music is not a big deal.
If you tell on someone else's crime to not be
held accountable for something you did. Maybe in pop music

(14:01):
people don't care, Hey, come, let's do a song. But
in hip hop is frowned upon because it's expected of
you to be a man and to be accountable for
your own shit and don't throw nobody else under the
bus because you don't want to be accountable for your
own shit. So I was thinking about that, and then

(14:23):
I was thinking about this conversation I had with D One,
not a conversation of brief exchange. I'm gonna get d
One on the podcast. I gotta do a real dope episode.
But I think it's gonna be real powerful. So I'm
a way till I'm gonna start releasing music because I
think that conversation with the hummy cousin's gonna be real
powerful because we stand on different sides of the streets,

(14:44):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
With a few things. I think we believe.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
We both believe in God, and there's a spiritual guidance
in our presence, But how we see things and the
way we understand how things are happening, it looks like
they're far apart.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
You feel like Tish Street.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yes, yes, yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I think when the law right and and then and
then there is something in Christianity that say obey the
law of the land. But I do think that take
that doesn't take into context circumstances, you know what I mean.
So I do read the Bible and I understand that
it is definitely up to a level of interpretation with words.

(15:29):
So with d one, I think it comes across Anti street.
But I can't say he is forgive me if I
said that. That's not fair because even when I presented nuance,
he was able to say okay, because he wanted to
say glasses is it okay for a rapper to rap
about killing another brother.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
What did that brother do.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
If that brother, if that brother, if seven of them
brothers jumped on that brother, they supposed to get their
ass shot.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Is it wrong too cut a cancer cell out of
your body? I mean, it's part of your body.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Funny I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'm saying. It's like.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I'm saying. It's like, so I can't say he's anti street.
I have to ask him that. But I tell problem
all the time. Problem comes across anti street, right, and
I tell him all the time, like I'll stop him.
I'll be like, bro, stop talking like that. Stop talking
like that. Like you could be anti punk shit or bullshit,

(16:49):
but you can't be anti like you can't like you
can't be anti gangs in hip hop.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
It almost doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
M I don't know.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
I understand us where it all roots from gangs and
all that like that from back in the days.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
But I guess you can't be You're right, you.

Speaker 8 (17:14):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
You could be anti crop, like you could be anti
things that are wrong, like he was saying, Gee, is
it fair to some rapper talking about selling dope? Well,
how are they, like, what's going on in their life?
Did was they mom on drugs? Was they feeding the
what's their story? What's their story? Like, what's happening like?

(17:40):
That's what hip hop always provided the context. Again, if
we had a serial killer in hip hop where he
was rapping about killing people for no reason, just because
he had appetite to kill, you feel me, maybe that person,
I'm sure would probably be frowned upon. You know what
I mean, maybe you be frowned upon. So it's like,

(18:09):
I don't know. I had another thought. I don't think
you could be here's another thought. Check this thought out.
This is a crazy thought, Pete. This is gonna blow
your mind. Find it here it is. I don't think

(18:29):
in America you can't be pro black and anti street.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
You can't be pro black and anti street.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Shout out to No Cut because this is what I
thought about, right, Like horror Core never took off with
black people because it was like hell no niggas was
like nah nah, shout out to revenge. King Vine was
not a serious. Okay, So that definitely watching that.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
He's watching that guy, that guy's documentary.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
That white man Who's going to White UK he's dope too.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
He trap trapler.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
He labeled King von Lazily a serial killer. King Vaughn
is a soldier, no different than General Patton in a
wheel lazy.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
He's just trying to get a fucking what do you
call it, He's trying to go viral, saying no but
choice terminal.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
The actual definition is I think it's like three of them,
all killings.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
You could be considered a serial killer.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Stamping the bull says that all the time. Like it's
just it's like that critical revision. It's the use of
language ship that chases me.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
The living off oxygen exactly, bro.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
At least to me. It pisses me the off every
time I don't like pick a choose.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
I hate this, Yeah, I don't like it neither in
no context.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I hate it well because a serial killer somebody who
killed people for no reason, not people who killed people
in the middle of a ward. No, the new definition says,
if you killed two or more people, you're a serial killer.
Because most of these women having abortions, they would be
the greatest serial killers.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
In the world.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Nuance in that conversation, right, all the.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Words serial by itself means is of forming or arranged
in a series published or produced and installments as a
novel or television drama.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
Or related to whatever. They made it more like serial
like TV. But yeah, it's you know, plotted effectively.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
M M.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
I mean in the context of serial killer. Tends to
mean the plot exists only in your own mind, as
we understand it colloquially.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
So again, you can't be in America. In America, you
can't be pro black and anti street. They don't go together.
American laws are made to hinder black people. Het not
you know this. This is another conversation. I'm just because

(21:25):
I don't want you to because you know this is deeper.
It's made to hinder black folks.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Trap.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
We know this, So how the hell you're gonna be?
That's like you're on a plantation. Be like, well, you
know what, you gotta wait to they free us. You
can't escape off their plantation. Man, you gotta wait to
the day they decide to let us go. You can't
do that yoursel out now now that don't think that.

(21:51):
That don't mean in again, in gang life, like sexually
assaulting a woman is not accepted. It ain't like you
do that, and like you getting your stripes. You sexually
assaulted that woman. Niggas will beat no ass.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
That's not there's not overlapping the term gang bang in
that regard.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
No, she has to be permissible. She has to allow
that to happen. Oh if you just if you just
if nine of y'all just sexually sort of woman, that
my friend is not a gang bang. That is actually
called prison time. She has to be the thought of

(22:33):
it is. She has to be so in love with y'all,
gang banging with y'all, cripping that she wants to let
y'all all have her body. So again, like when we
have these conversations about hip hop and anti street is
like anti street does not mean all crime flies. There's

(22:57):
still a level of what's right and what's wrong in
the street. Like if you just going around the community's
knocking off nine year old kids, nobody gonna give you straight.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
You're not getting striped, You're gonna get killed.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Somebody they're going to the community is going to come
together and conspire to hurt you.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Calvin thinks that we're stealing his stuff. I don't know
who he is.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
So Calvin's first time at the lunch table. So I
don't even know.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Who that we stole your stuff because I didn't know
that it existed. But I appreciate what you mean, so
but ignore that.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
I need to talk to someone about this.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Shout out to Queen Lady act. Nobody should abuse a
woman in any way. What is okay abusing a woman?
Is hitting a woman for no reason? I don't know
if abusing a woman. If a man and a woman
is fighting and you're getting the better of her, I
wouldn't reference that as abuse. I would look at that

(24:08):
as you, why are you fighting this lady? But that's
not abuse. So again, some of these terminologies is just overused.
You know what I'm saying. You gotta ignore that. He
don't make me block him? Did you reading all that
craziness that man talking about he messing us up? This
is not that I was.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Reading all of it, but that clearly he's talking to
you because I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I don't know the fact that he's the man in
guard time by being silly is crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, we're gonna have it.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
We didn't have like an eighty six list.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Good block, But no, I was thinking about that.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's like, you can't use the expression of the street
and come in and decided to preach over it, preach
against it. Shout out to Mantega, said Calvin getting block.
He typing thirty seven seconds, thirty seven comments per seconds.

(25:16):
He said, what is D one?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Then?

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Oh, man, see this is my problem.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
You cannot feed the trolls. Bro, all so focus.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Let me focus.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
There are things that we all understand are wrong, even
if they we understand that some things are.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Right, even if it's there against the law.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Like the way I feel about my time in selling drugs.
I know it's wrong because I could have did something different,
and I feel more responsible for humans, like right, like
there is this king humane.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Thing about me that can help me.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
It is this king humane anystinct about me that allows
me to understand why I shouldn't be selling drugs because
again I don't understand addiction. And once I understood it,
it's like, this ain't the right thing to do because
people now I'm helping them poison in their self my
actual keen sense. But again, if you come from a
different background where your mother is not you know, feeding you,

(26:23):
she's on drugs. Everything is happening, you feel me, no,
then I'm not judging that person the same way I
would judge myself. And that's why we can look at
a drug dealer and understand, you know what I'm saying
to be like, Okay, well they getting their money how
they gotta get it. It's very much a personal accountability.
Now again, if you selling, if you purposely selling drugs

(26:45):
cut with fitanol, people in the community will kill you.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
They will kill you.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
If there's life. Huh, that was joking, I said, if
they're still alive.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
So being anti street doesn't Being anti crime is not this.
It is not as being anti crime is not the
simple equivalent of being anti street. If that makes sense,
I got you.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
You know what I mean? What in street?

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Well, because you can commit an act of I would
say it's.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Almost of the civil criminal variety, like there's black market
commerce and then there's causing harm, I would say, in
the the most rudimentary difference, right there.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
Excep fair.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yes, this is the first time me and Dan Sacks
agree streets might have less correction than the government they do.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Less interests, Yeah, it's definitely less interest So being anti street, right,
does it mean Yeah? Yeah, roughiend, yes it does. Being
streaked does mean being a criminal. You cannot be street

(28:19):
without being a criminal. You can be raised a street,
urban culture, the culture of it, but you don't have
to be a street nigga.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
A street nigga means you're committing crimes, right.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
Quick, real quick. Sorry.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
I only can see like four or five or six
comments in my little screen here in the interface of
a time.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
What four of them are from one guy?

Speaker 4 (28:47):
It sucks the oxygen out of our ability to interact
with the rest of the room.

Speaker 8 (28:51):
So we're gonna have to.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
I don't even know how. I never blocked nobody.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Mus gotta do it for YouTube. Oh okay, I.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Got delete their comments, all right, I just did it
on my first Damn.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
I feel so lame.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
I mean, everybody I'm looking at a comments all but
one or one guy.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
So I feel so dirty, like a like a police.

Speaker 7 (29:20):
Oh my god, I don't my block list is my
block lips is tough.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I don't know social media apps, but.

Speaker 8 (29:29):
I'm it's like, look for the good of the room.
Everybody wants to be acknowledged.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
When I look over and then and I can see
five or six comments, he's putting in two words of comments,
stacking them off the top of each other like this
and sucking up the whole screen. Then everybody else gets
marginalized from even being able to be visible.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Shout out to rough end TV squish, he said, un
block me trapped, I'm crying. No, being street is a
mindset being think about it. Actually, No, committing a crime
is that action. The criminal is the person that commits crime.
Being street is a mindset that's saying the law right
is not the actual jurisdiction that runs your life, like

(30:13):
right that, Like being street is like saying that the
compass that exists at this level right is different, and
you will commit a crime even if it's not. You will,
you will do what you have to do, even if
the law says it's not right. So again, if you
don't do it, then you never had a chance to

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truly be street.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
And a lot of this is I mean, honestly, governments
are large, complicated bodies, more complicated than street bodies are,
and they have to manage morals and markets in their laws.
There's not the ladder on the street side, so you
don't have a whole bunch of regulatory the market management

(31:03):
crap you have to abide by in that space. So
you can be a street person and not necessarily go out,
and you.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Can be within code mode on the streets. That's you.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
That's a being of culture. That's what street urban culture is.
Shout out to.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Momo makes a great point. Example.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
When the street rapper brags about spiking women's drinks and
other street rappers don't check him, it makes it seem
like the streets is complicated with fun shit again.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Okay, so there's two things. It's about.

Speaker 8 (31:34):
What's on about?

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I'm kidding no, no, no, talking about that song.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
One, none of us thought that lot. I didn't gla Okay,
let's start. One of us glasses did not think that
line was cool. It's weird, right, it's weird. Two, we
got to actually stop acting like people are not doing
weird things. Most people try to take a woman to

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get drunk. They bring alcohol to a women's house, so
there's this weird everything.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Not for the woman to get drunk, that's for them
to get drunk. These bitches don't look that cud sober.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
But no, Momo, none of us thought that line was cool.
But nobody I agree. None of us jumped out and
dissed him, like, hey, that's rape and that's true.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Maybe hip somebody hip hop.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Sai like, hey, you are weird, but mumoo, honestly, behind
the scenes, we were like, that was weird. You know
what I'm saying, That is not a cultural thing. Let
me spike these girls drink that.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Again.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Also, I'm not the same person that spoke up against
Bill Cosby, but I also didn't argue when it was
as long as you're willing to go to jail for
your crimes. But we don't think that's not a cultural thing.
I've never been taught by the players. I know, mumu
that man, if you want to get the pussy spiker drink,
I've never in my life heard that that.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
That is not something I ever was taught.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I've been taught by a lot of really dope street niggas,
my father included. I never heard that. So Rose is
on his own with that. That is definitely I don't
know what.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Was he thinking when he set that line. That ship
was crazy. From the first time I heard it, I said, Joe, what.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Did you just say? You just say that just now?
That is weird? That was crazy. That was weird. It
was fucking weird again Radio and you.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Right, mooo, we should have dissed him, And if d
one said that, I'd be like, you know what, You're right,
So I agree, mooma, we do have to and maybe
that is something that we missed out on because the
nigga should have served him over that.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Bro what kind of when the fucking Jeffrey Dahmer you
own food?

Speaker 9 (33:46):
Like?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
You know what I mean? You right?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Mooout to Marcus Mitchell. Welcome to the lunch table. It's
my first time seeing you, brod. What if you're just
in circumstance, living in the streets, so you understand how
things go, but you strive to avoid participating in the
criminal activity. You be streeting, not a criminal. No, you'd
be raised in street urban culture, which is why you
know the talk. You're not street. You're of said culture.

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You understand what's happening, but you're not street and you're
not a street nigga. You're not a street nigga. If
you went to high school's got a great job, you
deliver mail, You're not a street nigga.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
That is just a weird thing to want to be.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
You are of said culture, street urban culture, but you
are not You're not a street nigga. If you're not
actively out there committing crimes, you know, that's that's not
that's kind of what being.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
A street if you chill.

Speaker 10 (34:40):
On the block.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Now you're hanging out with the fellas, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
But you go to work every day, but when you
come off of work, you chilling the parper's going participating
in it. You know what I'm saying. You're moving within
the within the same rules of them. Know, but you
got a normal nine to five. You could be considered
a street dude, though, Hell no.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Not if you're coming home and you not committing No, no,
you're not a street nigga. You are a productive member
of society. Why the fuck no, you just you just
you're just hanging out.

Speaker 8 (35:13):
That would like make so.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
Doodle hanging out on the block, hanging out on the block,
robot moving a certain Well, you're saying you got to
commit a criminal crime in order to be considered the
street dude.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
That's what that's what a street nigga's crime.

Speaker 8 (35:29):
I don't know, you know what I think you know
what here here's moving around that.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
If you are, if you're conducting commerce on the streets,
you don't have an address, so you don't have a business.
That's why they call the streets. Otherwise you would be
in the store.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
To be pro black and against crime or being the
street what you said to being the criminals. You can't
be pro black in America and against crime. You can't
be pro black in America and against crime. Shout out

(36:16):
to dance sex, So you ain't street dance sex.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Every day.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
I go somewhere dance sex. I got a gun that's
unregistered in my car with me all time. That's not
gonna never change.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
That's not it's not.

Speaker 8 (36:30):
That's completely no.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
No, no, you don't have that strapped up.

Speaker 8 (36:35):
No, you're not.

Speaker 7 (36:36):
No, that's totally allegedly allegedly allegedly.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Shout out to Shout out to Skilo Slim. Someone can't
be from the hood but not a part of the underworld. Yes,
we all from the same hood, but.

Speaker 10 (36:51):
We all.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
The definition of hood. I guess what you mean. You
can from that over there, but you might not.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Be like we all.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
We all, we all grew up in the same environment,
but everybody didn't become a street nigga. Some people grew
up again, grew up in the culture, but they are
not They're not a street nigga. They we all talk
the same way, we all blah blah blah. But that
don't mean being street is crime. Being a street niggas

(37:22):
being a criminal. Yeah, you urban like you, a brother
like you, you you in a mix, but you're not
street nigga is a specific thing.

Speaker 8 (37:33):
Yeah, this is you know, a lot.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
Of the.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
This is on the fringe of like so many of
the deeper components of like what we talk about was
so far as inclusion goes to, like like cultural inclusions,
like people like get Man, you say, Drake's not hip hop,
people who might have grown up in a certain area

(37:59):
that didn't part dinticipate in certain activities thin because they
were on the same street that they're street. Now you
were just on that same street. There's nothing wrong with that.
That's probably a better thing the longer in the longer term,
you know, there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Shout out to James GB if you claim a gang
or crew openly, if you claim a gang, and and
again like I say, most homies, but that's saying you'd
be willing to commit to commit a How how is.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
It how hard would it have to be to claim
a gang actively and never have in any way, shape
or form acted upon that participation at all.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Like that's that's that's that's sixty percent of niggas from
a gang.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
They don't they don't.

Speaker 8 (38:51):
Move nothing, they don't carry nothing else.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Nobody nine of every hood in Los Angeles has never
shot a weapon.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
But have they done anything else unless say, you got
to blow some of his brains out.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
But like maybe they like scammed in today's time and
back in the day, maybe certain homies so dope, but
bro people, not everybody in the hood. Obviously, I gotta
tell you ain't a criminal, right, but they are willing
to commit a crime. And that's the commitment, right. The

(39:29):
commitment is that the law does not establish your morality
at that point. Shout out to domin Bad Photography, thank
you for the five dollars. Dear law enforcement watching this,
I've never seen glasses with a gun.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
He is just joking.

Speaker 8 (39:41):
I am jo go for Christ's sake, of course you're joking.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
Nobody would ever have believed anything like that. This is
terribly false.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
My cripping is defined and out loud. I am not
trying listen. There's two types of black men. I think
that's the problem how we see black men right. I
think every black man right should be trying to stay
out of jail.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I don't think they're not. Everyone apparently apparently, Uncle one.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
That listen, that's they can't just put you in jail
because you have guns. They can't just put you in
jail for they have to catch you with a gun.
The point I'm saying to you is sure, listen, every black.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
On a on a public platform.

Speaker 8 (40:32):
You have a vanity license.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
For a million times.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
We gotta edit that out. We gotta edit that out.

Speaker 8 (40:50):
Instead of driving, if that's all you wanted.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
The only person I'm not telling I got a gun
to is the police. So if they asked me, hey,
you said you had a gun, No I don't, sir.
Hey you said you're a cryp, No I'm not, sir.
The only person I would never bang on or till
I got a gun is the police. If they heard
about my gun and my cripp and that's different. They

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just heard about it.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
What I look.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
What I'm saying is this, it's a deep conversation. It's
actually really good. This is a real one table conversation.
The more I think about it, here's the thing. Shout
out to no Arouanda. Here's the thing in the US
being black American and walking down the street and standing
in front of a store or some properties, you get
arassed by the police and cheated like a criminal and

(41:37):
can't get arrested.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yes, I agree, I agree. I agree. But it's like.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Gil, you can be a gay gangster too. That don't
being gay don't mean you're not a criminal. That just
means you like the same sex. Don't mean it don't
mean anything outside of that. Huh, you know what, it's all,
you know what? I back up, back up, shout out

(42:14):
to the homie, because he said this earlier. I might
be in agreement with what who said it?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Was it a.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Somebody said it? Somebody said it? They said, it's the mentality,
And that might be true. Like maybe I'm being a
bit hasty because I am, you know, forty five now,
and I it is the mind of that the law
is not the judge of what you will and want
to do, you.

Speaker 11 (42:45):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
And usually by the time you made it to this age,
you'd improved it already that the law is not the
standard of how you behave when it comes to life.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
And that's kind of I think maybe part of the
issue though, because if you truly believe that and it
never manifests to action in the long term, that it's
probably just talking.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
You get what I'm saying, trapped like like if like
if like let's say like if you yeah, you're right,
like right, you kick it with the hummies and all that,
like you're right, you and queens, you kick it with
the hummies. You blah blah, and you hang out, but
you never when something happened, You never was in on it.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Oh no, no, no, you ain't s treat that.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Now he's forty seven, he's been delivering mail for twenty
two years, still hang out.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
The car and went to college. Was probably not street
quite so much.

Speaker 8 (43:41):
That's portrayed like the car.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Though, like yeah, dog grew up with dough boy. Excuse me,
Trey grew up with Doe Boy and Dookie and all
of them. But he wasn't street.

Speaker 8 (43:55):
You know what he was saying.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
He was saying, let me out the streets.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Indeed, Indeed, no, Shary, you cannot be pro black and
pro laws Shary, they don't go together.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
That's what bothers.

Speaker 8 (44:12):
Shary.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
You cannot be pro black and pro laws shary. They
don't go together. You can't be shout out to Moses.
Forty seven is a senior sittingy Street retired. No, Moses,
you never retire, Moses. I'm never gonna retire, Moses. This
is what I supposed to wake up one day and

(44:35):
the president change how how the law, how white people
treat black people. Know, Moses, I could never wake up
and be that way.

Speaker 8 (44:45):
I don't think he's talking about you.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
No, No, I'm saying he's saying forty seven.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Is a senior.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
I think forty seven is a reference to the president.
I believe it is what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
He's saying forty seven of a time in year in
the streets.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Trump forty seventh president of the United States is the
current president in office.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
I think it's the reference he's making.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Oh yeah, Moses, tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 8 (45:13):
Before someone tells me I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
This is D two. I agree.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
Being pro law doesn't mean you agree with every law.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
You know what. That's not Dan.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
I'm not mad at that, Dan, I am not mad
at that. But it does mean you're pro who's making
the laws. If you're pro law, that means you're pro
who's making the laws?

Speaker 1 (45:41):
You could just call my phone, Sherry.

Speaker 8 (45:43):
Scherry, you're in Miami.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
You can come sit right in this chair, yes, and
assume this this space right here.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
I can send you a link to Sherry if you
want to come on, I can send you a link
Sherry to come in through the back, through the through
the front door. That you don't got to just be
on the phone. But but that's the point. It's like,
it's like imagine being pro culture but saying you don't

(46:16):
like the shells on a taco, you.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Like imagine being pro you know you.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
You you you you you you.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
You can't be pro culture. You can't be pro culture
like you. You can't be what's your email? Sharry shout
out to Frank ps R one, Welcome to the lunch table.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Brother. He was just he was just a homie.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Wasn't ready for the implications of what being street is
at a fine age of forty three. I'm willing to
disregard the law and protection of my family self for friends.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
And that's all.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
That's all being street really is.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
It's like, you know what, I don't care what y'all
say about cocaine. People want to buy it. I'm gonna
sell it. No, I am not okay with you drugging
some ladies. You drink to take advantage of her sexually.
That is just weird. No, that's not a cultural thing.

(47:36):
That is ridiculous. But shout out to mumma, who was right.
We should have got on rose ass for that. We
get we should have got on rose ass for that.

Speaker 8 (47:47):
So yeah, yeah, Rose has been spiked all along.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Yeah, that that was But I swear to god, most
of us heard that line. It was like, that was weird.
That was that was a weird line. You you you
you enjoyed it and she didn't even know you know what.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, from the first time I heard that line, I
know that she was wrong.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
You've been bringing it up. That is like really, yeah,
that is a.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Lot, James, James, I disagree with you. See James, this
and this is why we don't go that far, because.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
You start getting oh my god, come on, man, James.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Of control, crazy ship at the lunch table. Man, stop
throwing food.

Speaker 8 (48:49):
Bro The girl knew she was smoking weed.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
If she smoked weed, now you passed to some k too.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Now if now, if mister water over here gave her
a different joint. Well, and that's a different discussion. Because
of the weed.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I think girls drugs themselves when they want to actually
kind of be a little bit unsavory.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
I think that they took they drink something to.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Take the the They drink something to take the edge off.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
I think you need.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
They also don't like paying for.

Speaker 7 (49:27):
Weed as I got older, though, I don't. I don't
even like drinking or slumping with any any woman like that.
Though I like mine. I like mine sober, sober and
uh a patient.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
I got you, I got you, I got you. So
what if you hot box and the girl right you
got her in the windows, rolled up with intentions of
getting her that second hand so she would ease up
and give you some plate.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Then you're probably going down for kidnapping because so she
didn't want to get high off all that second half smokeing,
and you locked her in the car.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
If you're trying to get out, yeah, should have got
out the car.

Speaker 7 (50:06):
I'm like this, damn, I'm like, I don't even I
don't even share my way even nobody though I mean
shout out, I don't share.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
You ain't even worthy this week?

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Hold on there period, Sherry, do not get up here
and act like you don't got no here.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
Hear me?

Speaker 8 (50:32):
Then you're out.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
You gotta talk. You gotta talk from the up and stands.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
You have to have a picture here.

Speaker 10 (50:39):
Can you talk to me?

Speaker 6 (50:40):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (50:43):
Okay, hold on, can you hear me? Now?

Speaker 8 (50:47):
We can hear you. We cannot see Okay.

Speaker 11 (50:50):
Well, first of all, I just wanted to say, see
how they treat me. They're like, don't listen to Sherry.
Sherry needs to shut up. It's just the abusive women.
Hold on, it's the abusive women in hip hop that
I'm talking about, Like our voices don't matter. Nothing we
say is true. Okay, So yes, I am gonna get

(51:11):
in your place before we go forward. The problem that
I have with Glasses that glasses Pete and Trap keep
talking about, even though Pete and Trap try to tell
Glasses to like, you know, hey, think a little bit more,
but he's not glorifying the hood and gang violence is
really getting ridiculous and stupid. Right, You're saying that women

(51:31):
get drunk because they want to let off the ed.
So sometimes we're willing to get assaulted. We've known since
they want that men are constantly the predators. It's never women.
You may hear about it now where women are probably
spiking drinks and stuff, but that's usually something men do.
That's not like a women thing. And men are constantly
disrespecting women in hip hop, and you guys are constantly

(51:53):
glorifying violence. I'm from the hood, I'm pro black, and
I disagree with everything that you say about that.

Speaker 8 (51:59):
Real quick, so just real.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
When I said don't listen to Sherry, I was making
that in the reference to you saying Miami is ghetto and.

Speaker 8 (52:08):
I live in a nice spot.

Speaker 11 (52:10):
Miami's ghetto. You go to Miami, it's crowded, it's dirty.
No one speaks English. It's I'm talking about little lady. No,
but no, it's just and no.

Speaker 8 (52:27):
One speaks in English.

Speaker 11 (52:30):
So I wanted to say this, we really got to
stop glorifying the nonsense.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
What is zivily cheering? That's sure.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
They hear you.

Speaker 10 (52:50):
What did you say?

Speaker 1 (52:51):
So what are we glorifying? That's the nonsense?

Speaker 11 (52:56):
You know, like, oh, game, banging is a brotherhood. You
even sat up here, was like, why don't consider the abuse?
If the homie is fighting his girl, what.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
And his girl hold on Sherry, I said, if the
homie and his girl are fighting, it's not abuse that.

Speaker 11 (53:13):
Is abused, and you're supposed to get your homie.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Oh it's not, Sherry.

Speaker 11 (53:18):
It's not number one that's and then number two whatever
glass at being in the that is abused. If I
don't care, you're to get your who is.

Speaker 8 (53:30):
It bilateral abuse?

Speaker 7 (53:32):
No?

Speaker 8 (53:32):
Yeah, there's only nig.

Speaker 11 (53:34):
No, it's just abuse by which part if you know
that he has to buy the man because he's the
stronger being.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Okay, so cut it.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
I'm stronger than you. My nose is not stronger than
your fist, I promise.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
So if it was, let me ask you. She So,
I mean, I'm not. I understand you're saying, though, but
can it be looked as being abusive if the woman
is attacking the man and the man is not fighting back.

Speaker 11 (54:07):
Yeah, but then we will stop her. All violence is
bad violence. We will stop her like hey, get off
of him or hey, but just for it to be like, well, shoot,
she did the first swing, so let's knock that bitch out,
like when y'all just aren't holding each other accountable. But
you're saying you wouldn't stop it.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
So a negative you're saying women are weaker just I
get this right.

Speaker 11 (54:32):
Physically, yes, physically we are. That's everyone knows that physically
we are.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
So no, we are.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Hold On, hold on, Sherry, that's not so.

Speaker 11 (54:46):
You think we're all that boxer lady.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yeah, that's different. She's special. She's not like the rest
of y'all. That's that's a different case.

Speaker 11 (54:58):
That's what I'm saying talking about.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Hold No, that she's not like regular. That is a
special woman. She is a special human, not even a
special one. She's a special human. That's not what I.

Speaker 11 (55:09):
So let me stop you there. So if she hip
hop poost, would you break it up? Because oh, she
could probably handle poose? I mean, is that what you're saying?
Fight whoever the boyfriend is? Is it because it's a
fair fight. So you're like, you know what, let the
nigga stug it out.

Speaker 7 (55:25):
No, I don't want to see no woman fighting man
at all either way. That's why I wasn't okay.

Speaker 11 (55:31):
So they're having at.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
With this question because I think Pap got hands question
because Pap got hands, but I would imagine that's another
level of hand.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
So you're.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
Whipped on, she gonna whip off that.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Let in general speak, just being the weaker party is
not a cart blanche to act any which way without
consequences in the back.

Speaker 8 (56:08):
No, it's not.

Speaker 12 (56:09):
If it's someone who's six six to eighty, I don't
just be like, oh, yeah, I guess he's probably gonna
beat my ass, but I can start take off on
him five six times for he does without consequence.

Speaker 8 (56:20):
That's preposterous.

Speaker 11 (56:21):
So once again we would agree because I do agree
that men are the bigger leaders in society. I do
believe that men are more powerful. I do believe that
men are the leaders. Right, So if you know that
as a man, I wouldn't say book smarter, but they
are leaders. I would say that. I mean, I don't work.

(56:42):
I work sometimes. My husband has been the leader for
almost twenty years. So I'm around men that just handle
business and we handle our part as women.

Speaker 9 (56:50):
Right.

Speaker 11 (56:50):
I'm not saying I am saying that there's gender roles.
But everything doesn't work for everybody, so I'm not gonna
say that. But what I am gonna say is if
someone broke into my house, I'm not gonna get a
person to be like, go see who it is. I'm
gonna be like, oh, go see who the fuck it
is and make him do it. So with that being said,
we know that men are leaders in our society. So
when men see nonsense and you guys don't speak up

(57:11):
on it, it is creating generations of cowards like you
guys are literally saying, well, shoot, if she hit, I've
been pissed. If I push my husband, I don't want
him to push me into the damn fireplace. I've never
pushed your guy physical with my husband. Well, what I'm
saying is if people know that I.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Won't hold on, slow down, I'm glad you said right,
here's a better question. Why would you push him?

Speaker 11 (57:42):
Some people will lose control and it doesn't make it right,
but for you to.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Just hold on, hold on, hold on, serry, use a
specific term, right, I want you to stay that word
you said.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
They will they'll lose control, so then that can happen.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
That My point is, and if a man moves the control,
but the stronger party is responsible for their own control,
that's the standard.

Speaker 11 (58:10):
Just so we're clear, that is the standard. That's correct
because the stronger party and the leader is the one
that's gonna step in and be like you know what,
wait or he should just walk away. It's not right,
but walk away in and leave that person. But for
you guys to be like, well, it's brought on yourself.
Sometimes you have to stop that stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I did not.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
I've seen it.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
I don't like breaking. I've been Actually, you're in the matrix, Chrry.
Now you're in the matrix.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
No, I'm trying to.

Speaker 11 (58:46):
See.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Yeah that is me. No, that's shary the matrix.

Speaker 7 (58:55):
You're going to that nice, nice neighborhood right now, like
a calabasting like that.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Look, he said, hold up, shery when you get it
back together, hold up, I can see what I can
see when you're moving, Sherry, just keep talking. And when
you when you get up, you have to pull over.
Probably okay, So I.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Mean she's over another principal. With more strength begets more responsibility,
but with less strength does not absolve responsibility.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
And and and I don't think we're making Listen, the
laws are in place. I'm not debating that there should
be no laws in place that that I wouldn't even
waste my time like that's why the laws are in place.
I think in the streets, like Sherry knew my mom
my mom is six and one she for five minutes.

(01:00:00):
Men and one woman. So again, I'm not saying that
abuse is okay. Shout out to lady at going crazy.
Oh you know, look, if you hitting your old lady
because the coffee is hot, that's no exception. I'm not

(01:00:21):
saying that's okay. That's obviously not cool. If you and
a man like to fight, that's how y'all I deal
with your relationship. It's against the law. I don't have
to get in the middle. That's against the law. So
I don't have to have a moral point in that

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because the law says that's wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
That's wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
So I don't get into that simple conversation of men
and women fighting each other. You going to jail, my boy,
as long as you okay, But going to jail, that's
on you.

Speaker 7 (01:00:59):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Men hitting old lady, she not fighting. That's not their relationship.
He kicking her ass. That's abuse. But if a man
and a woman is following is fighting and that's their relationship,
they need to break up or they fighting and they
go go to jail and deal with the law.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
That's where I'm at with it. That's how that worked
for them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
So what I'm telling Sherry is when Sherry says we glory,
we glorify, we glorify gang banging, right, or we glorify
she said, we call it a brotherhood or friendship it is.
That's not glory. This is my friends. That's that's the

(01:01:41):
honest to god truth. Those are my friends. That's not
me glorifying gang banging, Sherry. Because I'm defining how it
is what it is. That's the context of it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Can you argue and say, hey, you know what you
guys commit crimes? Yes, sometimes we do. Now, if you
said all crimes are wrong, right, then that's where we're
going to different. But I don't know how a black
person could say that, knowing this country's rich history and
using laws to mistreat black people.

Speaker 11 (01:02:18):
Simple, Jerry, can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:02:29):
Why is my sound solo?

Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
It?

Speaker 11 (01:02:31):
I'm out my bluetooth, but now my phone is likeroud.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
You you actually sound better.

Speaker 11 (01:02:37):
But I can't really hear y'all that good?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
How do I turn it up?

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Your phone up? Your value of your phone up?

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:02:45):
Let me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Just turn it up the little side.

Speaker 11 (01:02:49):
Okay, I said, Probably hear a little bit better. If not,
I'll get my bluetooth classes. No, so even if I'm
flying like Miss Olivia's rest in peace, you literally trying
to use her as an example, saying she beat up
six dudes, so she was fine, she can handle herself.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
That's what That's not what I'm saying, Sherry. What I'm
saying is I don't have the concept that women are weak.
I don't agree with you there. I don't think women
are even the weaker species. I don't agree with.

Speaker 11 (01:03:17):
That, but physically we are.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I don't agree with that. I think your strift is
in durability. It's different. I could never have a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
When I'm going to the bathroom and I'm having a
problem passing about movement, I'm about to die, you push
out a baby. So again, that's not the point. I
don't even want to get caught up in that, right.
What I'm saying to you is, I think if a
man is hitting his old lady, Sherry because she made
the coffee room, that's abuse. If a couple do not
know how to communicate and they fight their way out,

(01:03:47):
that's against the law. You're asking me to have a
moral compass against that. I'm telling you I don't need
to develop one, because it's against the law. That's one thing.
Art two. As for I'm not glorifying gang man and
by p pressing that these are my lifelong friends or
that we're brothers, that's not glorifying it. Glorifying fighting and
killing people is what we do every Fourth of July.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
That's glorifying violence. That's glorifying violence.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
To the fact that we're actually using fake things to
make the sounds of gunshots, that's glorifying violence.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
We do it every time we.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Have a Memorial Day, we have a Veteran's Day, where
we glorify people who do whatever they need to do
for this country to be okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
That's glory.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
We don't have that in the community. We don't have
a Fourth of July. We don't celebrate the year we
beat this gang in a war. We don't have that.
What's glorifying me expressing to you the depth and context
of the experience growing up with these people, Sherry, is
not glorifying. It's that you're being disingenuous, and you know,

(01:05:00):
we don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
We don't perform like we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
There's no Fourth of July in the West Side for
the day they stood their ground against the nutty blocks
there's no celebration Sherry for that. They don't celebrate the
day they went to the Grandees and shot it up.
They don't do that, So that's glory. Them's, hey, we
had a conflict with this community, right, Sherry, we had

(01:05:23):
a conflict with this community. Them saying we had a
conflict with this community and giving nuance to the conversation,
Sherry is just lazy to say that that's glory.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
The glory is right.

Speaker 8 (01:05:39):
The fourth July was not a fight. The fourth July
was a submission of paperwork, to be clear, if you
want to be nuanced.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
But I'm saying it's them celebrating a war that no,
the war hadn't happened yet.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
No, they celebrate the document because it's a document. Otherwise
they celebrate the end of the war when Coral Wallas
is on the peninsula.

Speaker 8 (01:05:55):
I don't even know what day that happened.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
On even at that point.

Speaker 11 (01:05:59):
It's the same, right, So if you're not celebrating your
friend that just made the ultimate sacrifice, you're not a
true friend. That's the point I'm making. There's nothing to
be proud of when you're doing this. So you're admitting, like, okay,
once you're going the homies are like, Okay, thanks for
your service, and that's it. You're saying it yourself. So
that that proves my point that trying to glorify this

(01:06:21):
and rap about it and say these are the homies
and stuff. No, these are people that are terrorizing neighborhoods.
Nothing about it. It is a home like. They're destroying
communities one generation at a time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
That cherry.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
That is the how are they terrorizing?

Speaker 10 (01:06:41):
It's true, it is.

Speaker 11 (01:06:43):
True, and no one's saying it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
That that's not true. They're not terrifying nobody. They're not
terrorizing anyone.

Speaker 11 (01:06:51):
So let me let me give you an example, right,
think about it, right, So if you're not being terrorized,
why do most of them need to drive around as
we just said it's a joke with it's something under
the seat, right because they're terrified they have PTSD that
someone's gonna pull up on them. So that is a
result of what's happening with the gangs. I have friends

(01:07:13):
that are gang members. I grew up in the hood.
I know how this goes. Everyone's not gonna take that direction.
But the people that do it never feels they're dead.
They're in jail or when they're older, they're just a me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
But that would be the same thing as going to.

Speaker 11 (01:07:28):
Need to stop acting as if like.

Speaker 10 (01:07:33):
People without fathers and brothers.

Speaker 11 (01:07:38):
Okay, let me ask you this. Let me actually, let
me ask people. I'm gonna ask tract too, what is
the difference between justice and revenge?

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
The difference between justice and revenge? But you don't answer
the first guys you can answer first.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Ah, well, one of them is subjective, the other one
is objective.

Speaker 11 (01:08:03):
Okay, so if you were to put them together, how
can you blend them together? Then the two don't go together, right,
they do.

Speaker 7 (01:08:15):
I think revenge is more so dealt with with emotions.
You got to get your give back, and with justices
dealt with within something that you know what I'm saying,
it's not it's not really emotions within within within dealing
with with justice like that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (01:08:31):
In my opinion, it's the same thing, right, In my opinion,
it's the same thing if hood goes and rides on
somebody from the other hood and they feel like it's justified. Right.
So if we keep letting this continue without trying to
stop this, somehow it's going to be constant revenge that

(01:08:56):
feels justified. Whether it's from the streets or whether it's
from the courts, No one's winning. Until we speak down
on it and shame it, it won't stop.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
You're not going to shame people out of this. That's
been the problem this whole time, Cherry. The difference with
justice and revenge is harmony.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Harmony is the idea of justice, the thing that everyone
agrees with. But there are people who don't agree with justice,
people that look like me, you, and trapped that don't
agree with justice. So therefore justice is not harmonious. Oh
you're so the same, But.

Speaker 10 (01:09:38):
You're speaking of justice in the courtroom.

Speaker 11 (01:09:41):
Justice could feel like I just received justice by slapping
somebody that slapped me first. Revenge and justice are kind
of the same thing. It's just in a different form
and a different format.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
But I'm telling you that's the problem. The difference is harmony,
the concept of harmony.

Speaker 10 (01:10:00):
So how can we have harmony in a hood?

Speaker 11 (01:10:02):
We're getting there now? How can we create harmony glasses?

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Well, that's what I'm trying to tell you. People that
participate understand the consequence.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
That's why it's harmonious.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Amongst that's why, that's why when you grew up in
West Side and Farmdah, there's not killing three hundred they're
not killing three hundred days a year because there's a
level of harmonious interaction.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
This is what you're not getting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
For the minimum of thirty days of violence we talk
about that we may experience, which is horrible, there's three
hundred and thirty five other days of harmonious understanding. And
when things do not have that harmonious relationship, they end turbulently.
So but there's no difference. The difference with justice and

(01:10:48):
revenge is harmonious. So people don't think something. So you
could say, hey, this person shot my friend, I'm going
to shoot him. That's considered If people in our community
do it, it's considered revenge. But if you shoot somebody
in cold blood on the streets and they give you
the death penalty, people call that justice because the concept
is that we all agree to make this a law.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
But the problem is people.

Speaker 11 (01:11:12):
So there's no harmony in it. There's no peace, right right,
So that's my point. There's no harmony in it. The
only thing that's coming out of it is either just
they're both regardless of who gives it to you, whether
it's the courts, whether it's the opposition.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:11:30):
So the point is if we stop trying to make
it seem like, well, you know, three hundred and sixty
five days out of a year, we only had a
funeral five of those days. But the people that lost
their sons, their husbands, their uncles, their fathers, their grandfathers,
their brothers, they don't but feel that way. So now
theytsd right, they still have wait, they still have to
live where they just witnessed a massacre and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Then because of gang violent Sherry, that's a rough estimate.

Speaker 11 (01:12:00):
That is the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Glasses a horrible estimation of what's happening, and it's it's
loose to interpretations. This happens in all communities where poor
people are.

Speaker 5 (01:12:11):
They don't even have to have gangs.

Speaker 11 (01:12:16):
Okay, So once again I'm gonna try to whistle your
way out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
I'm not, I'm not. You have to accept that that's true.
The Bay Area has the same murder rate and they
don't have gangs.

Speaker 11 (01:12:31):
So so this is the thing that we were when
I was driving, I think Pete said that, oh, well,
people could identify as a gang member, but they're not
a gang member. So we're saying that we now have
a community of trans gamely members, right.

Speaker 10 (01:12:46):
That identify as a gang member, but they're not.

Speaker 11 (01:12:49):
Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
No, so a gang member.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
So again, a gang is a group of people who
commit crimes together.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
That that's by definition what they call it, and it's
fair to call it that.

Speaker 7 (01:13:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
We don't agree with the status of the law, so
we will come up with what's right and what's wrong
on our own outside of the law. Right, that's all
the gang is. Everybody in the game doesn't commit a crime.
We was having a conversation about the term street nigga,
so it was like, everybody in a gang is not

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always a street nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I was suggesting.

Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
The idea is it's it would be challenging to be like.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Actively a part of a gang for an extended period
of time and not have any intent of abiding by
on paper laws and just incidentally never happened to break one.

Speaker 8 (01:13:50):
That would be quite a challenge. Yeah, you pull off,
That was all I was suggesting.

Speaker 11 (01:13:55):
That's what you're saying, right, So in reality, that will
be called a trans gang member because they identify as
a gang member.

Speaker 10 (01:14:04):
Hold On, hold on, that will.

Speaker 11 (01:14:07):
Be called a trans game trans gang member because they
identify as a gang member, but they're not one.

Speaker 10 (01:14:14):
Right, So even that shouldn't be accepted.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
But that's more That's what I'm saying. That's more homies,
did not share.

Speaker 6 (01:14:25):
What you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
That's more homies than not.

Speaker 11 (01:14:28):
But that's what I'm saying. So why do you think
they're trying to do that? Because they think it's glorified.
They think they have some sense of protection in the hood.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Is that a real thing? She just said? Just you
just freestyle that?

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
You?

Speaker 11 (01:14:47):
Yeah, I mean that's what it is, identifying something and
they're not that. No, but trot think about it, right,
If someone's identifying them something and that they're not, then
trans gets thrown in front of it. So they're trying
to identify as that because they think it's cool. And

(01:15:09):
why do they think it's cool glasses because you tell
them it's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Cherry, that's ridiculous. People can't become this. You either this
or you not. Everybody is not bullied into a gang, Cherry.
Most people are not bullied into a gang.

Speaker 11 (01:15:28):
Once again, I'm not saying they're bullied into a gang.
When trans men are out there trying to be women,
it's a bunch of women. Didn't get them in the
corner and be like, put these panties on punk. No
one did that. That's what they chose to do because
they thought it was cool. So trans gang members are
doing it because they think it's cool. So when did
your survival on the streets and when did you watching

(01:15:51):
your back and burying the homies become cool and celebrated
to the point where we have trans gang members even
right here where I live.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
I call those guys are if you know, it's not reckless.

Speaker 11 (01:16:04):
This is real talk, because.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
No one's if you didn't if.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
You didn't get, if you didn't grow up in seeing
community and you move in, you come into the hood
at twenty one years old and you banging the set
and you don't know nobody, you're probably doing it. Yeah,
you're an immigrant, bro, That's that's a different thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
I'm with you.

Speaker 10 (01:16:25):
Let Pete talk.

Speaker 8 (01:16:28):
That's all she's talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Oh, firstly, I'm seating my square on the show. Moving
forward to share she's way better content than I am.

Speaker 13 (01:16:38):
You know, Pete, because it's true, But I know that
his immigrant reference to somebody who stays out of town
and comes in and then gets active.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
You're saying somebody who's born there been from their claims
that they're active, but they really don't participate in right.

Speaker 11 (01:16:57):
And even people that are just watching it on teams.
Glass Glasses has the taste that no one's ever been
there yet. Go to the cryptstore dot com get your
favorite cript merchandise. But why would I Why would I
wear that crip merchandise too? I bet I wear the hood.
I better wear a world.

Speaker 10 (01:17:15):
It's just the mindset. It's wild that it's entertained. That's
a very dangerous lifestyle.

Speaker 7 (01:17:22):
Your glasses. I did a number on Chavy. I did
a number on for outside of the place, whatever the window.
You did a number on for real Renot.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
You would have thought Sherry was getting shook down.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Like this, Look at them, Look at the holder games
out there that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
You play with them, Sherr, listen, trap.

Speaker 11 (01:17:49):
Let me tell you, first of all, Glasses grew up
before Glasses moved to Watch. Glasses lived in a very
rich area of Compton that we all lived in.

Speaker 10 (01:17:56):
Glasses had a private call in his backyard that worked.

Speaker 11 (01:18:00):
A lot of us have pools, and we didn't have
water in.

Speaker 10 (01:18:02):
It because the pump. Hold on, because the pump was.

Speaker 11 (01:18:05):
So Glasses transferred to a gangster once he moved to
watch because he probably hadn't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Don't call them that, Please don't do that. Please don't.

Speaker 11 (01:18:17):
They didn't say trance, I said, he transferred, they moved,
So hold on, let me finish. So where we grew up, right,
they had horses, they had cattles like Glasses had a
working pool that everyone could go swimming. Because there's no
neighborhood pool, right, So poor Glasses and struggled.

Speaker 10 (01:18:38):
Hold on, hold on because poor.

Speaker 11 (01:18:40):
Glasses just struggled. And he understands the street life.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:18:43):
So once again, where I lived, even though it was
a nice neighborhood, I saw guys get shot off their horses.
We will go to a gas station, the mobile gas
station off. Frank got shot ten feet in front of
us walking home from school.

Speaker 10 (01:18:58):
Other boys will get out of beat up the.

Speaker 11 (01:19:00):
Boy that's with us, and I'm talking about beating them
to a pope. So the violence, like witness is very serious.
This is not like a choke.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
So wow, wow, hold up. So there's no place in
Compton that's rich.

Speaker 11 (01:19:18):
It was a very decent neighborhood where nobody was out
there begging for food. I'll put it like that. It
was a middle class neighborhood with nice houses, nice lands
and nice pools.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Here's my story.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
So we grew up. My mom bought a house.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
My mom is a registered nurse. They used to sell dope.
This is her story. We bought a house in Compton
in the Richland Farms. The Richland Farms is an area
in Compton. If you've ever seen the documentaries on the
Compton Cowboys, My homeboy Mama started that right.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
Call for Mom started that. I knew how to.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Write a horse at five or six. I knew how
to swim at five or six. We had a pool.
But we lived in the area called farm Dog Crips.
It is not middle class community like that. It is
not as horrible as other the poorest spots in Compton,

(01:20:20):
but it's also not You ain't went nowhere you like.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
She said, people did get shot off the horse. That
was happening.

Speaker 10 (01:20:29):
I told you they was laughing in the comments.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
I'm serious because crips were riding horse country and ships
one time. These are there's specific places in the ghetto like. Okay,

(01:20:51):
so there's specific places in the ghetto that you have,
like stables like in the ghetto. Right, So it's like
my mom moved us to Compton, right. I grew up
in Compton my whole life till I was twelve, thirteen,
roughly twelve, right my mom, No.

Speaker 11 (01:21:09):
You were older than me, so you probably were there
because you were there till you were like fifteen, so
you lived a good, good life. Well no, no, don't
thanks the story.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
I'm gonna tell you why it's not fourteen because I
remember so because I started RTG at thirteen. So my
mom goes to federal prison. Right, federal prison, they take
all our belongings. We're in Compton now, mind you. My
father and my mother broke up at three. So my

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dad lived one hundred and seventeenth Street and watch. So
I've been going over there my whole life when I
moved over there, right, Because my mom goes to federal prison,
that's what she's talking about. But where she talking about
in Compton is not trust me, she will have you
get fucked up over there. That is not that type of.

Speaker 11 (01:22:02):
Okay, let me ask you so, no, wait, let me
ask you so no one. They didn't get busted on
from the horse.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
People got shot off the horses. That happened.

Speaker 11 (01:22:09):
Okay, So hold on where people shot at I'm not
going to drop names that sign where people shot at
the mobile gas station.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Rest in peace.

Speaker 11 (01:22:18):
Are still alive. Where people shot on fucking Raymond Street? Yes, okay, Okay,
then okay, So I'm traumatized by that. When I first
moved to Florida, walking down the street when cars will
pull up, I'm looking to see who the car is.
They're looking at me like, are you okay?

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Like, oh my god, I.

Speaker 11 (01:22:36):
Have PTSD from being around all this stuff that we
think is normal.

Speaker 10 (01:22:40):
That's not normal.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
I'm not saying, Sherry, I'm not saying we didn't grow up.

Speaker 10 (01:22:46):
That's what they used to call me.

Speaker 11 (01:22:47):
I hold it with.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
So this is the crazy part, right, So again, where
we lived at we live right against me and Sherry state.
We live right at this place in Compton where the
canal runs through with the aqueduct. Right the aqueduct when
you cross that, I lived next door to it. So
when you cross this bridge that's about twelve feet right,

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you're an occasion. Now you're back in regular Compton where
there's no stables. Sherry couldn't cross the bridge because it
was worse here.

Speaker 11 (01:23:24):
But that's where I'm making So you're trying to say
where we lived was an eight, but usually Compton is
a ten. It doesn't make it better glasses. And by
the way, I couldn't cross.

Speaker 5 (01:23:34):
So I don't think none of it was like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
I think the farm's originally farms is a more affluent
area in the ghetto.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
I'm with you.

Speaker 11 (01:23:42):
Okay, So the canw he's talking about, y'all, sometimes it
will be dead bodies in it, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Yeah, right, yeah, so that happened, right, Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:23:52):
Yeah, So I'm not wanting me to walk over dead bodies.

Speaker 5 (01:23:56):
Okay, I'm not saying.

Speaker 8 (01:23:59):
It's forget who were from the area originally.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
I think he was kind of trying to push back
on the idea you were kind of coming on as
saying it was like like a richer type neighborhood, like
what you would think was removed from that element.

Speaker 11 (01:24:14):
It definitely was removed from most elements, Pete.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Said, South Beaches ghetto. So I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:24:23):
It is they say robbing those dudes in hotels. You
go out there, Pete, you may not wake up the
next day.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Would you come off of Collins.

Speaker 11 (01:24:31):
I don't even go to Collins.

Speaker 10 (01:24:39):
Yeah, I've been to New York.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
What parts of New York you feel like it's ghetto.

Speaker 11 (01:24:43):
When I went to New York, I was in the
Financial District and I also went to Queen's.

Speaker 10 (01:24:48):
We were in the area.

Speaker 11 (01:24:50):
It was like right by a massive cemetery. So we
were in Queens and I was down there by Wall Street.
I had some friends that worked up there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Wall Street, super ghetto.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
So my debate, my debate with Sherry is this, He's
saying it's because of gangs, and I'm telling her, no,
it's because of the poverty. And we're from the ghetto.
The same things exist in Oakland where there's no gangs.
The same things exist in all communities, whereas there's no
gangs where poor people exist.

Speaker 11 (01:25:20):
Okay, so we just let it be because that's how
it is, right, Just let generational violence continue.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is you're
upset at the wrong people. You're you're upset at the
wrong people. You're trying to make it a gang thing,
and I'm telling you it's a poor thing. So now
if you're saying, because now, obviously me and you both
have done well for ourselves. We moved into better situations,

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even though right now I would love to move back
to the farms right now, Lord knows how much expensive.

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
It's crazy now. But what I'm telling you is, you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Can't say it's a gang violent thing when this same
thing is happening in Oakland. It's not gang culture promoting
these activities. It's poor things that are happening in these
ghettos because people are fighting and tripping over limited resources.
That's the point you're saying, don't have pride in it.

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And I'm telling you that's the only thing they have
because they don't have opportunity.

Speaker 11 (01:26:24):
They do, they do, so, yes, I grew up in Compton.
There's a lot of opportunity. So this is the thing.
Right so, right now I have a right now, I
have a friend who's who was murdered.

Speaker 10 (01:26:38):
He left behind.

Speaker 11 (01:26:40):
I want to say, his son is maybe thirteen or
fourteen and left behind. I'm sorry, y'all gotta go. Oh yep,
So very good dude, Uh what it said? Glasses knows
him because I was talking to him about.

Speaker 10 (01:26:53):
It the other day. Very good dude, I mean, like
the whole hood loved him.

Speaker 11 (01:26:56):
Kendrick Lamar paid for.

Speaker 10 (01:26:58):
His funeral right of God travel.

Speaker 11 (01:27:01):
No, okay, So once again, very good guy, very family man.

Speaker 10 (01:27:06):
But listen, listen to where I'm going with this.

Speaker 11 (01:27:08):
Okay. So I've never seen any of that. I just
know he's a good family guy. If I came to
LA and I needed to ride from the airport, He'll
make it happen, are you okay?

Speaker 10 (01:27:21):
So the point So he was murdered, right, murdered in
cold blood.

Speaker 11 (01:27:27):
So now his son is online all the time. How
he's going to get the opposite? Remember the sun is thirteen,
by the way, smoking, hanging out with his his dad's
friends doing this. Do you think if you, if you
God forbid, if you die tomorrow, Trap, I'm out there
giving your kids bad influences, like yeah, we're gonna ride
on him, nigga, small, We're gonna do this. No, that

(01:27:48):
would be the last thing Trapp will want his son
to get involved in. So the point is that I'm saying,
these are generational problems that keep continuing because once you die,
those those guys don't give a fuck about you. The
homies don't give a fuck about your family.

Speaker 10 (01:28:02):
They'll go fuck your girls, they'll fuck your kids. So
we need to stop this. We could be homeboys.

Speaker 11 (01:28:09):
So we got to figure out something to stop this
revenge and justice that keeps just a cycle that is
just destroying our community and destroying us as a people.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:28:21):
I think everything that you said right there, you can't
categorize one type of person that being that type of
person though, So it's like everything as you said to
that person that that the person friends would do doesn't
have to it could It could be. It could be
everyday good citizen doing that same slamy ass ship. Though
it don't come just because a person's a game member
or whatever. It is like that. I don't think it
actually comes with a certain type of thing that they do.

(01:28:45):
You know what I'm saying that this is one day
the person is like this is all gang members do
this type of ship right here? That's what you can't
You can't really do that right there?

Speaker 10 (01:28:53):
No I am doing that.

Speaker 11 (01:28:54):
And if not they're a trans gang member, we already
established that fact track. If they're not putting in work,
their trends and the main so they got to pick
aside either you're a transgangster or you a real gangster.
And if you are real, dang so you're gonna you're
gonna either die, you're gonna get hurt, or people around
you are gonna get hurt. Choose which paths you want
to go, and to just say they just have to
choose that past because they have no hope.

Speaker 10 (01:29:16):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
That's not what I'm saying, Sherry, that you're being disingenuous
Again with that point, what I'm saying to you is
this is standard amongst every ghetto, no matter which color
it is. Now, if we want to have the conversation,
shit America, the country that you appreciate the law, you're
doing better by its poor citizens, we have a real conversation.
But again it's going to fall into the people that's
making the law. You have to do better by humanity.

(01:29:41):
If you let people hold on, if you let people suffer,
if you continue to not do the right things by humans,
they're going to respond in this same standard.

Speaker 11 (01:29:55):
Okay, So once again, right, so now you're you're resorting to,
let's go ask the people that put us in this
situation to fix it. That's the most ridiculous thing no, no, no.
What we need to do is parents.

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
I'm not even saying those people, Sherry.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
I'm talking about the people you look up to, the
people that you feel aren't doing the violence. The Oprah
Winfrees and the people the Barack Obamas, the people who
are not doing anything.

Speaker 10 (01:30:19):
Las says, I look up to you. Let's use it
as an example.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
You can't use me because I do my thing and
I'm from the community. The point I'm saying to you
is the people that can change the pathway, or black
people in these situations, or poor Mexican people or poor
Asian people, or poor white people that do these same things.
We have to do better as a society.

Speaker 11 (01:30:42):
We have to do better as parents. There's a lot
of HOODWP parents out there that are out there gang
banging with their kids, that are out there ready to
pull up with the kids to go fight some teenagers.
Keep your kids in the house if you know that's
a violent area, Be a parent.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Be a parent, Jerry. That is not enough.

Speaker 11 (01:31:02):
It starts at home.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
No, it don't. It didn't start at home. From the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
You couldn't tell your slave kid nothing because would you
like to go outside of to deal what you got
to deal with Sherry.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
So that's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
And you cannot let people off the hook and say
you can change it and fix it because you didn't
break it, Sherry.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
You can't.

Speaker 11 (01:31:18):
So this is the thing, right, people are like causing effect. Right,
So if I started home, you know, I'm.

Speaker 10 (01:31:25):
Gonna use Pete because Pete is in Miami. He sees
what happens. He sees the news.

Speaker 11 (01:31:28):
Out here in Miami and be popping off, especially down
there in Miami gardens and then open lock it. And
I actually have friends down there, right, So if you
knew it was a violet area, you know what I'm
talking about, Pete, Like, it goes down down there in
the crazy part. It's right at the stadium. Who plays
there is like a football stadium, the the Dolphin Stadium
right right right, So they built the stadium right in

(01:31:51):
the middle of the hood. I'm talking about in the
middle of the hood where.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
People because it's the cheapest square foot like the coliseum
most cities. That's kind of true because it would be
impossible to go buy a square mile or damn near
in you know, Coral Gables. That's why they can't build, right, So.

Speaker 11 (01:32:09):
They built it in a poor community, but that place
does not employ any of.

Speaker 10 (01:32:14):
Those poor people that work there.

Speaker 11 (01:32:15):
So once again the system.

Speaker 10 (01:32:17):
Taking advantage of the people like I'm talking about, right.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
So what that means said is a weird example because
it's only active like thirty days a year.

Speaker 8 (01:32:25):
You, okay, people who work at stadium. There's no events, Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:32:30):
But the thing is they built this place. It's in
a place where people who live in the hood. Just
follow where I'm getting at. They live in a hood
and every few months they see how wealthy people come
there and the world comes to that city to party
whenever they have that wrap event or that rap thing
they do every year. So the point that I'm making

(01:32:50):
is people in the hood can see a way out right.
You should have the drive to be like, damn, I
could do that. The parents should be like, listen, we're
gonna you could get out of this. We're gonna do this.
Not just throw your hands up in there and be like,
you know what this shit is, ghetto, y'all do what
y'all want. It does start at home because the money
is brought into the community, they can see it. You're

(01:33:12):
acting as if like these are people that can't see prosperity.
They see prosperity, Sherry.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
They took advantage of those people.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
What the hell.

Speaker 10 (01:33:22):
You're trying to say?

Speaker 11 (01:33:23):
They visually cannot see prosperity glasses, so they don't know
what to do. Because you're trying to say, if they
don't see it, they don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
I'm telling you, So you know what they want to
become when they see that a football because you know
what they see, Sherry, football players. You know what success?
You want me to prove to you? How simple it
is what we're saying. When people see drug dealers, shout
out to queen. You just gotta mute your phone, Queen,
get you on the stage. The point I'm saying to you, Sherry,

(01:33:54):
they want to be everything they see that's successful, simple
as that. That's what people that grew up with we're from.
They can see that. So they see football. So guess what.
Miami has one of the greatest pop warning programs around
the country. That's why they try to be football player.
That's why they pop on a football program. So good,
if you see adult dinner that's successful, you don't have

(01:34:15):
enough reference to go outside of what you see. The
success you see is what you emulate.

Speaker 11 (01:34:21):
So you're trying to say in Compton there was no
success classes, Cherry.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Think about what you're saying. We didn't.

Speaker 10 (01:34:26):
My grandad was the engineer for bowing.

Speaker 11 (01:34:29):
My grandma worked at the Los Angeles Unified School District.
My mom is an engineer. Like, there's so much success,
So to act like Compton does not have success is
in a.

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
Saye, Cherry, can they see the success?

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
You see it?

Speaker 10 (01:34:46):
How So that's what I'm trying.

Speaker 11 (01:34:48):
That's the point. I'm trying to make glasses. You're trying
to say that if they don't see it.

Speaker 10 (01:34:53):
They don't believe it.

Speaker 11 (01:34:54):
And I brought up the Miami issue because that part
of Miami is popping off. They he's there.

Speaker 10 (01:35:00):
They could drive twenty minutes in Southeast save in La.

Speaker 11 (01:35:03):
I never knew Hollywood was so.

Speaker 10 (01:35:05):
Wealthy until I.

Speaker 11 (01:35:06):
Was like eighteen, because all I saw was compan Guardina
and Carson.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
What are you talking about, Sherry. That's the point.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
So the person, the person you see by success, Sherry,
is the person you're trying to emulate.

Speaker 11 (01:35:20):
But there's morning gang members to emulate. Stop making it
seem like that's all that's there.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
It ain't like the President of America lives on They
lived on callwell, Sherry, Sherry, people knew my mom was
a nurse, and my mom had flashy cars, and then
they saw her go to the Feds. Everybody else, everybody
that was successful share. I'm gonna tell you, I've been

(01:35:46):
over there in my whole life, and I still went
over there, even when I moved to my dad's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
When they took my mom house.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
I didn't know what half of them people did, because
nobody ever told you JJ jj that just got out
of prison not too long ago. And it's brother tweet
right who got the classic. They lived around the corner.
I don't know what their parents did.

Speaker 10 (01:36:06):
Classes. The point is they have other options.

Speaker 5 (01:36:10):
Sherry stopps, saying, is somebody else son, Yes, yes.

Speaker 6 (01:36:14):
I share. Everybody high glasses pe trap house.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
What's up?

Speaker 10 (01:36:20):
Oh hey, queen over.

Speaker 9 (01:36:21):
Here dying laughing, asked today, I gotta say that.

Speaker 11 (01:36:29):
She Thanks Queen, Thanks Queen.

Speaker 10 (01:36:30):
And finally someone.

Speaker 9 (01:36:32):
Glasses with his hand on his space shoulder, leaned over
and everything.

Speaker 11 (01:36:37):
Can you see he drops his gallon water and be
going nuts and yelling, spitting.

Speaker 9 (01:36:41):
In the farm.

Speaker 6 (01:36:41):
My eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
The fact that y'all take this conversation that's really important
to me. And making a debate of women and losing
shows that your thought is disingenuous. And I keep telling
y'all this when she was joking on these platforms, I'm
not trying to win on argument.

Speaker 11 (01:36:57):
No, one's trying to make you lose this when it
look she was obviously joking. She was just saying, you're
not making.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
That's the point that I don't know that they're coming
here disingenuous and in bad safe what it's in bad
face up her personal life and making it the status court.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
And I'm telling her it's not, Oh God.

Speaker 11 (01:37:20):
Here we go just like a game banger. He's now
gonna challenge us to a fight.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Hold up, she knew. Look, she knew Bam, she knew everybody.
She seen what happened to them. She knew their parents
were different than our parents. She knew what was happening.
She couldn't even play with Coco, but I knew her, and.

Speaker 11 (01:37:37):
She was scared wants to fight me.

Speaker 10 (01:37:44):
That's like, oh, I'm digging.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
Why we see that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
That's and this is what I'm trying to tell you,
sherby what you didn't catch about that situation. This is
somebody that looked at your house being a little bit better,
and your parents and your and the people watch over
you being better than her existence and was actually jealous.
So even as a kid, you didn't understand that. So
you kept that same antality as oh, and that's why

(01:38:10):
you feel the way you feel about those people. I
didn't never feel that way, Sherry, because hold up, Sherry,
I never looked at myself better. I understood my mother
wasn't on drugs. I understood my father, even though him
and my mom broke up, were still he's still parented me.
So I understood my advantages. So when certain people like

(01:38:30):
Trey right Trey, for example, when Trey was the bully,
I understood why he felt away, and I never let
that change how I felt growing up because I understood
my opportunity is different. Even though I did grow up
in Compton and watch my mother and my father wasn't
on dope, I didn't grow up poor. I might have
lost everything when the federal government took it, but you

(01:38:51):
have to be mindful. And you took that same attitude
because you felt Coco wanted to fight you, which is
why you still mad at the hood, and you made that.

Speaker 11 (01:39:01):
Different, Glasses.

Speaker 10 (01:39:02):
You gotta stop there.

Speaker 11 (01:39:03):
Hold on, because Glasses is trying to make it seem
like I'm doing collective punishment for all of the hood,
like everyone's beneath me, and that's not true. You need
to stop that. Hold on, Glasses.

Speaker 10 (01:39:12):
Wait.

Speaker 11 (01:39:13):
What I'm simply saying is gang banging is misleading. Game
banging leads to depth. Gang banging leads to families being broken.

Speaker 5 (01:39:21):
Up, Jerry, Poverty leads to depth.

Speaker 11 (01:39:26):
But we're talking right now specifically about gang members, right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
So that's what I'm trying to stop you from doing.
Sherry because Oakland, So every.

Speaker 10 (01:39:34):
Gang member lives in poverty.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Hold on Sherry, and Oakland has the same thing without gangs.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
A question backwards, every game member of poverty. The question
is every person in poverty a gang member?

Speaker 8 (01:39:50):
No, that's my point.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
So like the this is the separation that that you're
referring to, the participation versus not No.

Speaker 11 (01:40:00):
What I'm saying is these people keep participating because they're
gaslighted to participate. Look what we're doing here, Look how
we're rolling. I'm gonna ride for I'm gonna ride for you.
I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 10 (01:40:11):
I'm gonna seek revenge for you.

Speaker 5 (01:40:13):
People are not participating.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
The true members are not participating because they're gaslighted.

Speaker 5 (01:40:19):
It's not because it's cool, it's because this is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
Your friend, Sherry.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
As much as you grew up in the forum, Shery,
you don't have friends from the farms.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
You have a few friends, yeah, yah, But if you
and I.

Speaker 10 (01:40:31):
Can, Dianam, I actually just saw reason it has a been.

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
But I'm not talking about that one family.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
I'm saying if you hold up, just listen, Sherry, if
you are friends from everybody right from that community, if
your mom let you cross, if you excuse me, if
your yr, if you if your grandparents, if your family
let you cross that bridge and you were able to
become friends, your existence could look different.

Speaker 11 (01:40:55):
So I still have a lot of friends from Comton,
especially from the West side, because that's why I was
ninety percent in my life right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
So, Sherry, your developmental years is different. And again the
West is different too, because it's like the forms. So
what I'm saying to you is this, the same thing
is happening in Oakland without gang banging.

Speaker 11 (01:41:19):
So we're just gonna you just want to keep concluding
that gang banging has nothing to do what's happening in
the communities these days. That's what you're trying to say
and when and you're saying, if it does, it's not
their fault. They shouldn't be held accountable. It's the poverty
around them.

Speaker 8 (01:41:34):
You know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
That's the fact.

Speaker 10 (01:41:37):
That's an inaccurate fact.

Speaker 6 (01:41:39):
Sorry, Pete, I see go hip, Pete. I'm gonna go
after you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
Like inflammation, Inflammation is a symptom. It's not the infection
of the like the parasitic infection itself, but inflammation is
the silent killer. So while it's not the source, it's
a symptom that is problem madic in and of it self,
but it isn't the source. I think that's a fair
comparison because it's like it's it's like a circular feedback loop.

Speaker 11 (01:42:07):
That's accountability tolerates circumstance.

Speaker 8 (01:42:11):
If that makes sense.

Speaker 11 (01:42:14):
Go ahead, queen.

Speaker 9 (01:42:16):
I'm just you know, Sherry has a lot of key points,
and this is what I think Glasses doesn't like that.
I'm agreeing with you, and I talked to him about
and behind the scenes about this. You know, I'm not
I'm not disingenuous on what I'm saying glasses because I
do look up to you as a native and a mentor,
you know, and and one of my favorite hip hop artists.

(01:42:39):
But you also have like about six years older than
me in the land. But you can't just completely deny
everything she's saying.

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
Like you know, black on black.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
There's no.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
Finished no, but just don't use those type of terms.
Those are white talking points. Don't talk, y'all are two sisters,
do not do you want.

Speaker 11 (01:43:02):
Her to refer to the hood like it wouldn't be
better for you if she's more specific, like all the
crypts in the bloods.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
That's not what's happening.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
I'm sorry, go ahead to act like y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
I want y'all to know.

Speaker 11 (01:43:17):
That your but let her finish her point.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
I know, I know, but it's important with the terminology
you're using, because you're leading people, misleading people about somewhere
that we grew up at. There is no black on
black crime. White on black crime is rooted in the
crime committed because of race. If a white man and
a black man fight over a parking spot, it's not
a racist crime. It's not a white on black crime.

(01:43:41):
There's no such thing as a black on black crime.
It's just crime. So please don't say black on black
because they don't say brown on brown in East LA.
They don't say yellow and yellow and Long Beach in
the Cambodian neighborhood, and they don't.

Speaker 10 (01:43:52):
So why would that term be so sensitive to you.

Speaker 5 (01:43:55):
It's not sensitive.

Speaker 10 (01:44:00):
Conclusion that someone's murdered.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
How you talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
Me in the world, I don't even I don't even
care about you speak about nobody else as much as
I care about how people talk about poor black people.

Speaker 5 (01:44:14):
This is my thing I care about.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
I care about poor black people. That matters.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
So I just don't want her to say black on
black speak specifically to what she's talking about, even if
her experiences is to the gang.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
Speak to that.

Speaker 11 (01:44:30):
All right, queen, you got it?

Speaker 6 (01:44:33):
Yeah, I'm cool. I'm just chilling. I feel like this
is a thing.

Speaker 9 (01:44:38):
See, we can all be from the same towns and cities,
but all have different experiences and cannot know men or
no woman tell the next person that what their experiences
are understanding is. You know what I'm saying, Like I
might look at something as I have, I have a
whole nother opinion when it comes down to the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):

Speaker 9 (01:45:02):
I do know it's a lot of selective politics and
that politict that goes on. It's a lot of cowards,
busters and bullies, and I believe it just comes with
the culture. Now, I don't disown gang sharing. You gotta understand,
I grew up in that. I grew up in the era.
I have family members and friends from from the gang culture.
So I'm not the type of person that's gonna hate

(01:45:22):
on them or what is it like, Uh, this dispends
them when it's convenient.

Speaker 6 (01:45:31):
That's not me at all.

Speaker 9 (01:45:32):
That's the part of the culture for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:45:34):

Speaker 9 (01:45:34):
I was born into the gang culture. It's a part
of hip hop. You can't get around away from it.
But I think it's a lot of fuckery, excuse my language.
It's a lot of selective politic thing, a lot of
disrespect against women and even.

Speaker 14 (01:45:47):
Against each other the culture.

Speaker 9 (01:45:49):
And this is why Andy somebody say things like that,
you know, glasses, he had changed the whole definition or
am mysetting because you know he's educated. You know, he
reads a lot and he has a lot of experience.
And I think it's not right because I'm not making
up my experiences.

Speaker 6 (01:46:05):
You know what I'm saying, Like it is what it is.

Speaker 9 (01:46:07):
It's a lot of ignorant stuff that goes on. Yees
started from unity, but it's not that now a lot
of people commercialize it. You know, something says is what
is it honoring? Or what's the word you guys use
that that people use with glasses?

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Does?

Speaker 14 (01:46:23):
He's glory glorifying the whole.

Speaker 9 (01:46:27):
Thing instead of giving people the disadvantage, Like he'll say
stuff like, oh, nobody really kills anybody, nobody really shoots anybody, Nobody,
this respects people.

Speaker 11 (01:46:35):
You really think this?

Speaker 6 (01:46:36):
You really mean this.

Speaker 14 (01:46:37):
I'm like huh, and like he have you all confused?

Speaker 6 (01:46:39):
And I'm just.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
Like games, you don't care that you just told a lie,
Like that's a lie.

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
I never said people don't shoot each other.

Speaker 6 (01:46:49):
No, she was making I wasn't saying I wasn't glasses.
I was just like funny, But that's not.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
Really funny because you you're disingenuously and it's in bad
faith leading people.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
And I'm not saying that what I'm saying that you.

Speaker 11 (01:47:08):
Are saying that saying I say the hood isn't violent.

Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
I did not say I did not say that.

Speaker 10 (01:47:15):
Can you clarify this? He said that the hood is
the even like I spoke with.

Speaker 11 (01:47:21):
Gluy Says the other day and he was asking, what's
the problem, and I was like, you need to stop
saying it's a brotherhood. Do you consider game? Okay, okay, okay, Sherry.

Speaker 6 (01:47:29):
Can I say something? Please? Please? Sherry. Now that's what
I disagree with you, sis Song.

Speaker 9 (01:47:34):
See that's what I said. I'm not a biased person.
I go by my experiences and what I know. Yes,
it did originally start from brotherhood. Yes, it is a
brotherhoods anything else after that with the you wearing this color,
you from that section or that's three.

Speaker 6 (01:47:51):
Oh so I don't like you.

Speaker 9 (01:47:52):
That's a whole nother separate conversation, but it is.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Let me ask your question, Sherry. Let me ask your question.

Speaker 6 (01:47:58):
I'm agreeing with you, Black.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Do you consider fraternities as being a brotherhood?

Speaker 11 (01:48:05):
What I considered a brotherhood or a sisterhood is people
that will look after my family when I'm gone.

Speaker 10 (01:48:11):
That's not what's happening. No, they don't.

Speaker 11 (01:48:15):
You remember when my older brother went to jail.

Speaker 10 (01:48:17):
My older brother went to jail for a few years
or whatever.

Speaker 11 (01:48:23):
His homeboy was trying to fuck me and my friend
was gone.

Speaker 14 (01:48:27):
There's no.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
But was all of them trying to do it?

Speaker 11 (01:48:33):
What did you say?

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Was all of them trying to do it?

Speaker 7 (01:48:36):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:48:37):
But the point is this is supposed to be his
right hand man, and you know the funny part and
this is wait trap And I never told my brother
because what.

Speaker 10 (01:48:45):
Do you think would have happened?

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
Exactly?

Speaker 7 (01:48:47):
You can't take one person and sayyo, this how all
of them is.

Speaker 11 (01:48:51):
I'm not taking one person. I just told you collectively.
So let me ask you something trying.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
To question run my question? First off, do you consider
fraternity of brotherhood? Yes? What's the difference between that and
the game.

Speaker 10 (01:49:07):
A fraternity is not out dodging bullets? Trap, Stop acting
like that. You know they're not dodging bullets and pulling
up on people.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
Said having a step unders understood. But the cameras doing.

Speaker 10 (01:49:23):
Sentence this ingenuous.

Speaker 11 (01:49:24):
If we're gonna be saying that a ridiculous I disagree.

Speaker 6 (01:49:32):
I disagree.

Speaker 9 (01:49:33):
I do think it's like a fraternity. I think hold on,
hold on, I think everything, I think everything.

Speaker 6 (01:49:43):
This is the thing. You guys got to understand.

Speaker 9 (01:49:44):
It's okay to have It's Okay, it's healthy to have
these conversations because it's like three different four different.

Speaker 11 (01:49:50):
Opinions, and we can all disagree.

Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
We can all agree to something that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
No, we can't.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
All disagree because there's certain things that we got to ask. Actually,
when we speak it, we are not all it's not
cool that y'all have this impression of poor black people.

Speaker 5 (01:50:08):
It's not what are you talking about?

Speaker 11 (01:50:09):
What impression do I have?

Speaker 10 (01:50:11):
Stop saying that.

Speaker 5 (01:50:12):
Hold on, I'm not making my experience the talking point.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
The culture of what we're talking about is the talking point.
Would you consider the marines of brotherhood?

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
Cherry?

Speaker 11 (01:50:26):
Okay, so once again, this is a god's a job.
These people get paid to go do that.

Speaker 10 (01:50:32):
These are careers. Hold on, no, wait a minute, wait
a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
Cherry, would glasses cherry? Would you consider it a brotherhood?

Speaker 11 (01:50:44):
It is a career, they get paid. It is a job.
You know, it's a job, right, so hold on, you know,
it's a job that they have to apply for and
then get approved and then make sure they're fit for
that job.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
Man, is the same thing I'm asking you, is it
a brotherhood?

Speaker 11 (01:51:07):
I'm going to say something, right because this is this
is what I'm talking about, Glasses. How you guys try
to switch stuff around? So how about we just make
it plain in frank right? So, Trapp, you're telling me
right now, if we went to the ghetto and we
asked all the people in the hood, hey, which all.

Speaker 10 (01:51:22):
Like for the violence to stop?

Speaker 11 (01:51:23):
You're trying to tell me, they'll be like no, cause
it's like a brotherhood. Everybody wants violence to stop around there,
and unfortunately it's affecting the inner cities more. When do
we step.

Speaker 10 (01:51:35):
Up as a community like myself and say this is
some bullshit.

Speaker 11 (01:51:39):
People are suffering, people are dying, and you're wait, hold on,
when I wait, glasses, let me finish, wait, glasses. And
then when I say that, you say I'm talking down
on black people.

Speaker 5 (01:51:49):
To stop you because this is where we keep having
a problem. Stop talking. Stop talking about poor black people.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
I'm not a wow okay, classes Jerry, listen, stop always
finding a way to say that you're doing something right
because you're saying you're tired of something that you don't understand.
I'm telling you, okayry On, I've told you how to
fix it. I've told you one hundred times how it
needs to be fixed. It's not going to be fixed

(01:52:18):
with you preaching to a white room that black people
are bad.

Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
It's not true.

Speaker 10 (01:52:23):
I never said that, Cary, hold On, Sherry.

Speaker 5 (01:52:26):
It's not about gang violence. Stop saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
I keep expressing the same violence as happening in Oakland,
where there's no gang banging. It's a simple thing. I
asked you, was the Marines of Brotherhood. You said yes,
but they're dodging bullets together.

Speaker 11 (01:52:42):
So I said, it's a job.

Speaker 1 (01:52:44):
You know it's a job, brotherhood or yes or no?

Speaker 7 (01:52:48):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:52:48):
But wait, wait, hold on, we need to clarify stuff
because you're you're asking stuff and you're kind of being
misleading to your audience. You are aware, Trap Pete. Wait,
hold on glasses, Trap Pete and Queen, you are aware.
The military is a occupation. It's a career that pays people. Right, Okay.
I just wanted to make sure that you're aware that's
a job. You're asking me about someone's job. So being

(01:53:09):
a gang banger is a job. It's no question there's
being a game banger a job.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
The job Trap killing somebody in your neighborhood, but they
killing somebody somewhere else.

Speaker 11 (01:53:20):
Wait, Trap, it's being a gang member a job?

Speaker 10 (01:53:24):
Is that a career?

Speaker 7 (01:53:28):
No? Being a gang member is being is being a
part of being a part of a So is.

Speaker 11 (01:53:33):
That a job or a career?

Speaker 7 (01:53:37):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:53:38):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 11 (01:53:39):
I just wanted to make sure we're both talking about
the same things, because you're talking about people's occupation.

Speaker 10 (01:53:44):
So being a gang member is an occupation.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
Wasn't an occupation?

Speaker 5 (01:53:49):
I asked you?

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Was it a brotherhood?

Speaker 11 (01:53:51):
You're asking me about a job? Gang bang banging is
not a job.

Speaker 7 (01:53:57):
Once they get to it and they do the whole book,
can't do they do? They gain a brotherhood with the people,
with the their colleagues.

Speaker 11 (01:54:04):
Once they apply for the job and they pass the training.
They are a brotherhood because they fight together. But it
is a job.

Speaker 7 (01:54:16):
Let me go Let me go ahead, because I'm not
I'm not all the way with glass on the right there,
but I'm gonna say like this though, I'm gonna put
it on the street level like that. So now, if
if you join the game, I might get you a
pack and you can go to work though, get some money.
But we're gonna all beat together as a group though,
because a job something that gets your money, tying that
gets you ny you could, we could we can all
get together and go wash cars and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
So it don't make it not a brother here, Sherry,
because we are ducking bullets. That's being intellectually lazy and dishonest.

Speaker 11 (01:54:45):
I'm so you're implying that people and the.

Speaker 7 (01:54:48):
People we don't pay if we don't pay taxes. Different
because you don't pay taxes though you as.

Speaker 3 (01:54:53):
An experienced person, right you're talking to I'm out of
all these people on the stage, there's only one crip
on the stage.

Speaker 5 (01:55:00):
It's only one game iron the stage.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
One.

Speaker 11 (01:55:02):
And I grew up around gangs my whole life, so
I will say I'm a gang member too.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
You sound like the only person, gotcha. I'm telling you
it is a brotherhood. You couldn't even debate it. If
you called your brother, he would tell you it's a brotherhood.

Speaker 11 (01:55:21):
So offensive brotherhood. How can we get the brotherhoods and
other brotherhoods together to say, hey, how can we come
together and chill? Because the community suffering. Kids are losing dads,
uncles are losing sons, grandmothers are burying daughters.

Speaker 10 (01:55:34):
People people are in prison for life.

Speaker 11 (01:55:36):
How can we get all the brotherhoods together in harmony.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
The same way you get America to stop fighting everybody
else around the world, same thing.

Speaker 10 (01:55:45):
So gang banging is for resources.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Of course, it is what you thought it was.

Speaker 10 (01:55:49):
We're resource, we're resource. So when they're riding through, so
when we're in the whole the resources, kill him and
take his horse.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
What do you thought it was? Jerry? Okay, when we
say wait.

Speaker 10 (01:56:00):
That's way, hold on, you said, what did I think
it was? So you're saying, back when we grew up,
people were killing people for courses?

Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
Share hold on, Sheary, We're not all fighting for every
war America gets into.

Speaker 5 (01:56:13):
We're not fighting for resources. What was we fighting for
on nine to eleven?

Speaker 11 (01:56:18):
So once again, right, you're implying that gang members are
killing each other for resources.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
No, no, don't weigle out of this.

Speaker 10 (01:56:26):
I'm not wriggling.

Speaker 11 (01:56:27):
Your comparisons are.

Speaker 10 (01:56:28):
Not sexual, Sherry.

Speaker 5 (01:56:31):
This is a fact.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
Somebody came to Americas on September eleventh, twenty eleven and
flew planes into a tower. Jerry flew planes into a tower,
killed three four hundred innocent people.

Speaker 10 (01:56:47):
Do you have evidence that that was that?

Speaker 11 (01:56:49):
Do you have evidence that was an outside.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
Attack hold on Shary or what they told us, what
America told us. I'm telling you what the homies told us.
I'm telling you what the homies told us. Sherry, This
what the homies told us. This is what they got
on the news. And a big homie that was the
president at the TOM said, this is what happened. When
all of the military did, they say, Hey, you know what,
we need to come to an amicable solution.

Speaker 5 (01:57:13):
We don't want any more bloodshed.

Speaker 4 (01:57:16):
But even if you're being honest, that's still a resource
driven act. Resource the military, proxy war over the intern.

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
But you don't understand why survival is not is crazy
once again?

Speaker 11 (01:57:37):
Wait wait, queen, I just want to ask tramp one
question trapping glasses.

Speaker 5 (01:57:40):
So huh, I need you to answer the question I
just asked you.

Speaker 11 (01:57:47):
I'm just told you your comparing two things that that
aren't comparable.

Speaker 5 (01:57:51):
How are they not comparable?

Speaker 10 (01:57:53):
That's like asking me a trans women of women, Now.

Speaker 15 (01:57:57):
That's not even remotely just because she dresses out there
this one and it looks like she's not one, but
that's not reality.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
That is my point.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
Sharing when that when they came and flew the planes,
when when mind you that's what the big homie said
that run America, the big home. They said, Hey, these
people from this hood, let me let me break it down.
They said, people from this hood flew planes in this tower,
these two towers, killing hundreds, if not thousands, of the

(01:58:35):
homies from America, all the homies from the hood. We
are going over there to get revenge. Is that not
what happened?

Speaker 11 (01:58:48):
That is what happened, right, So let me answer you.
It's a two part question. That is what happened, right.
So getting revenge against food collectively the whole nation, that's
not right. And that's why I keep trying to tell
you about gang banging. Wait, hold on, glasses, you gotta
let me finish.

Speaker 10 (01:59:08):
No, you keep interrupting me.

Speaker 11 (01:59:10):
So collective punishment is okay because it's gang banging. Punishment
where the whole whole sufferers is okay because it's a game.

Speaker 5 (01:59:20):
What do you mean collectively against the name.

Speaker 10 (01:59:23):
No, I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 11 (01:59:24):
So when when America went and seek revenge, they destroyed
the whole nation, people that weren't even involved, that's called
collective punishment. So with gag banging, that's exactly my point.
It's collective punishment. People that don't deserve to see this,
people that don't deserve to hear this, people that are
very let me finish, people that are burying their families.

(01:59:44):
They're suffering from collective punishment.

Speaker 5 (01:59:47):
Sherry Schrey, that's not true.

Speaker 11 (01:59:51):
It is true.

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
When the Nutty Blocks and the West Side Pow Rules
are beefing, you can't just go shoot Sherry, and people
think that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Culture.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
That's a lie. And you know it's a lot. You
and you and Queen both know that's a lot. Don't
lie to other people.

Speaker 11 (02:00:07):
Know once get glasses. Let your keep interrupting me. You're
not letting me finishing. Interrupted me again, Just take your time.
I am, but your interrupted me. Please let me finish
my statement. When I say collective punishment, when I'm saying
collective punishment, that means.

Speaker 10 (02:00:27):
Whoever, whoever's house.

Speaker 11 (02:00:28):
Let's say someone get shot, the person whose house that is,
they're traumatized as they witness that. The family traumatized because
they witness that. Sometimes the fire department is traumatized because
they have to pull up to this. It's collective punishment.
It's not just affecting the gang members that got killed
or beat up. It affects the whole community. How do
you not understand that?

Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
Arry, I do get it, but I'm telling.

Speaker 10 (02:00:50):
You so you do get it.

Speaker 11 (02:00:53):
But it's the sussion of.

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
Cherry.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
So my question to you is, why did you marry
somebody that's a fucking gangster?

Speaker 10 (02:01:07):
So, once again he has a hold on.

Speaker 3 (02:01:10):
You're married, So you're married to a gang member, Sherry
hired gangster, Sherry, I am not married to.

Speaker 1 (02:01:20):
Stop the bus.

Speaker 16 (02:01:21):
Stop the bus, right, he's a retired military officer hired.

Speaker 14 (02:01:32):
Well, okay, can I say to your brotherhood.

Speaker 1 (02:01:38):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, queen, hold on, Queen.

Speaker 3 (02:01:41):
So if you just submitted that the military does the
exact same thing as gangs, but you're complaining about it,
I did not say that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
You just did you just I did not.

Speaker 3 (02:01:50):
You said that, No, no, huge, I just cold you
said it is the same America. Didn't say, Hey, you
know what, we're intelligent humans. We need to we don't
want any more lives. The thousands of lives lost at
the Twin Towers is enough. Hey, Osama bin Laden, come
to the table. We need to sit down and figure
out an amicable solution so nobody else lose their lives.

(02:02:14):
That is not what happened. So when you keep asking me,
why is it not happening in the poorest places in
the world, Sherry, that's my fucking problem because you married
to somebody who would be willing to participate in that
type of collective destruction for money. So you got to
understand what makes it different, Sherry. That's my point. You're

(02:02:36):
not you're not contiguing your husband or America saying hey,
you know what, why did you go back over there
and bomb those people? You didn't say that. You're not
saying on the fourth of July. You're not saying it
until it comes to poor black people.

Speaker 10 (02:02:54):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (02:02:54):
Can I respond? Yes, So I'm gonna say it like
I've said before. War, whether it's by the US government,
whether it's by any government, whether it's by the damn
Compton Hood government. Okay, any war affects the community. Do
you not agree that war does not affect the community?

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
Yes? I agree, Pete.

Speaker 8 (02:03:15):
Do you agree the war affects the community?

Speaker 11 (02:03:18):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (02:03:20):
Trap, Queen, you agree to right, yes? Yeah, So that's
the point of Okay, So war affects the community, Trap,
because someone has to bury that person. A family's left
without a family member. The neighborhood is grieving because they
know what happens. It does affect the community. How can

(02:03:41):
this brotherhood come together and stop this? And I'm telling
you that it starts at home. It has to start
at home.

Speaker 3 (02:03:49):
I'm telling you that's not true. I'm telling you control
just because your family controlled it. Every family doesn't have control.

Speaker 11 (02:04:00):
In the comments glasses, do crypts open up medical clinics
and schools?

Speaker 7 (02:04:04):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:04:05):
They also don't profit off of anybody.

Speaker 10 (02:04:08):
Oh so so when they go so so it's not
a war.

Speaker 11 (02:04:11):
Then if they're not taking resources or trying to help
the people, they just hurt.

Speaker 3 (02:04:14):
I don't believe America fights for wars and resources. That's
another thing too. I think America fights for whatever reason
they fight for.

Speaker 7 (02:04:21):
I think America has faught for America for gangs in
America fight the same exact way.

Speaker 3 (02:04:28):
I'm not saying either one is right. When I'm saying
to you, gangs fight for a reason no different than America.
It's the same things scaled down.

Speaker 11 (02:04:37):
Do crypts change laws that help black people? They're asking
in the comments, do crypts change laws that help black people?

Speaker 5 (02:04:43):
I know America doesn't.

Speaker 10 (02:04:45):
No, no, no, we're talking about crips.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
We're talking about crypts or bloods right now, have laws
that help black people.

Speaker 11 (02:04:51):
So what CRYPT member has done a law that's helped
black people in our neighborhood, whether it's Compton walks or
a like. Please tell me one CRYPT member that's done that.

Speaker 5 (02:04:59):
What do you mean done a lot? Why are we
talking about the laws?

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
The laws?

Speaker 11 (02:05:02):
Why are we talking about the US military?

Speaker 3 (02:05:05):
Because I don't know why we talking about laws in general.
I know you're not trying to say America is more
honorable than crips.

Speaker 11 (02:05:13):
What I'm trying to say is you know you compared
the two glasses, so now you want to separate.

Speaker 3 (02:05:18):
The I'm telling you of a more honorable group than
the person you're married to.

Speaker 11 (02:05:27):
We all know we go to war for resources, right.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
No, we don't all know that sometimes we go to.

Speaker 10 (02:05:31):
Everyone knows that every war is to resources.

Speaker 11 (02:05:35):
Just sit on TV today, how he cannot walk to
go in there and get those resources out of UK?

Speaker 6 (02:05:40):
Jerry? Can I say something?

Speaker 10 (02:05:41):
Please?

Speaker 7 (02:05:42):
No?

Speaker 10 (02:05:42):
I just wanted Pete to answer.

Speaker 11 (02:05:44):
Pete, don't we go to war for resources?

Speaker 8 (02:05:45):
I would say, I mean it's not specifically resources.

Speaker 4 (02:05:48):
I would say sphere of influence for international commerce or
interregional commerce has been most wars since the dawn of man.
But I mean, you can define it as as resources
if you want to. Typically it has to do with
the militation of commerce and trade lanes, if you're not
just simply taking resources.

Speaker 11 (02:06:03):
Usually, so commerce is money, guys. So he's trying to
say it's either for resources or money. So if that's
comparable to the gangs and Company and Watson or in
New York Trap.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
Show, you blacked out your day to day?

Speaker 10 (02:06:18):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
Did you black out your day today?

Speaker 10 (02:06:21):
Did I black out my day? What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (02:06:24):
Oh? God?

Speaker 10 (02:06:25):
Oh did I go shopping today? No?

Speaker 11 (02:06:26):
I just went and did some home inspections and came
back home. But the point is you cannot compare street
gangs to the US military or any other military. They
have two separate purposes.

Speaker 3 (02:06:39):
They're white, and you think it's honorable to fight and
kill over money, which makes you a piece of.

Speaker 10 (02:06:43):
S I'm not blaming just the gangs, guys.

Speaker 11 (02:06:49):
What I'm trying to say is when do the leaders
like Glasses the ogs step in and be like, you
know what, brotherhood, we got to figure something else out
is destroying our.

Speaker 5 (02:06:58):
Community America to stopped fighting.

Speaker 3 (02:07:01):
So how I'm gonna tell a bunch of poor people
to stop fighting without giving them better?

Speaker 10 (02:07:06):
So we're talking about a smaller group.

Speaker 3 (02:07:09):
That's the job, Sherry. The job is give people something
worth living over. You can't respect America and feel like
America is better because they fighting and killing over money.
Sherry's horrible that you think that that is some level
of honorability or better. It's not cherry. People fight over problems,
however they want to solve them. That's how they solve them.

(02:07:31):
I don't think it's right or wrong, but I know
human beings have been fighting since there's been two so
I'm not getting in that that's why the laws exist, Sherry.
But you keep saying to me something specifically about what
I am, and I'm giving you context to it. I'm saying, Sherry,
this exists in Oakland where there is no gang banging.
I'm telling you it's a lot more to do. It's

(02:07:55):
a lot more to do with people not being denied
resources inopportune. This is a part of a much bigger
thing that you're trying to make only applying gang banging.
And I keep expressing to you, right four hours away
in Oakland, the same thing is happening without gang banging.

Speaker 11 (02:08:15):
You know, it's really unfortunate Glasses because sometimes I just
think you're trying to be like the Devil's advocate and
just you know, be difficult. But to hear that you
actually think that the community is fine with the violence
that is happening shows that you've moved out of that community.
Hold on, it shows your privilege. Hold on, Sherry, You're
showing your privilege though. So you're not there, right, so

(02:08:38):
you're not using a water hole to wash down your
driveway after someone got shot.

Speaker 3 (02:08:43):
This conversation is, That's not what this conversation is. This
is not that conversation, Sherry. Again, I'm giving you something
that that debates your shit. I'm telling you right off,
the rip has nothing to do with gangs. You keep
listening and you keep going somewhere else. I'm giving you
somewhere four or five hours away that don't have gang banging,

(02:09:07):
and the same thing is happening, and I'm telling you
to compare it. I'm telling you the same thing is happening.

Speaker 11 (02:09:16):
So let me tell you something that goes on in
the military.

Speaker 9 (02:09:19):
Say something real quick, share because it's my turn. Please
this this is the thing.

Speaker 5 (02:09:22):
With this ADHD queen, this is not your turn.

Speaker 14 (02:09:28):
Okay, hold on, this is.

Speaker 5 (02:09:30):
Not eighty h D. This is not that type of platform.

Speaker 1 (02:09:32):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (02:09:33):
When I hold these conversations, I'm really trying to get
thoughts and go to a certain place.

Speaker 5 (02:09:38):
This is not a debate show. This Saint the view,
cause this is for real.

Speaker 3 (02:09:42):
This is one of those places on entertainment that's for real.
I'm not trying to have a conversation that's gonna give
me more followers. I'm not trying to get a bunch
of people to get their fucking perspective out. This is
built on the premise of street urban culture over black music.

Speaker 1 (02:09:58):
That's what it's about.

Speaker 3 (02:09:59):
So when you start a saying things about poor black people, sharey,
you gotta have it together.

Speaker 11 (02:10:04):
I had it together and that's why I got you together.
And now you're trying to compare it to everything except
what it is the facts.

Speaker 10 (02:10:11):
Let me let me wait, hold on. You know they
have glasses, you.

Speaker 11 (02:10:14):
Know, you know in the military, right or you know what,
let's talk about gangs. You know, this younger generation is
not the generation that we were in. They are out
here killing each other's moms. You don't have to people's
grandma's hold on share. You don't know what's happening because
you never was a glasses.

Speaker 10 (02:10:33):
Glasses, these are known facts. Listen to me. They are
retaking revenge on people's parents.

Speaker 3 (02:10:40):
You can't you have to ask me what we're doing.
You can't tell me what we're doing classes.

Speaker 10 (02:10:47):
You're not in the hood, You're not doing anything. This
generation is just disrespectful and wild. Wait let me finish, Glasses.
You gotta let me talk.

Speaker 5 (02:10:57):
Stop doing it because you're not letting me he respond.
Stop doing that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:02):
Stop telling me with these generations, I know what they doing.
Stop saying that. Stop talking about poor black people the
way you are. It is irritating my fucking.

Speaker 10 (02:11:12):
So every gang member is poor and every gang member.

Speaker 1 (02:11:15):
Is black, telling you the culture of it.

Speaker 5 (02:11:17):
Stop doing that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:19):
What can't plant is that we could be doing so
much more. And I'm telling you it's our job, as
people who have done better, to provide more ways, not
just social commentary about how fucked up you think it is.
That's not helping. So what I'm saying is listen. So
when you're talking about it specifically, I'm making you stand

(02:11:40):
on what you're saying, Sherry, you got it like when
the queen says, when queen says, hey, you know what
you know a black on black, let's not use those words.
Let's not do that. I don't want to do. That's
not a real thing. Don't come in here with.

Speaker 11 (02:11:55):
Say you have word sensitivity.

Speaker 5 (02:11:57):
No, it's important how you talk about port black people.

Speaker 6 (02:12:01):
That's that's factual. I believe that's back and how we.

Speaker 10 (02:12:04):
Talked about word sensitivity.

Speaker 6 (02:12:06):
To me, yeah, I think.

Speaker 9 (02:12:10):
Respectfully and I have a lot of respect for him,
but I think he struggles with word sensitivity, like can't
nobody else.

Speaker 10 (02:12:23):
Right now, I work sensitivity track.

Speaker 7 (02:12:26):
I'm not understanding what he's saying. When he's saying, we're
talking when you're talking about us in the way that
y'all y'all referring to it. He's just saying, don't refer
to it as that.

Speaker 10 (02:12:38):
That's crazy. Let me.

Speaker 3 (02:12:40):
I can't even about the emotions that hold on what
I'm saying. You put emotions in the Sherry. It's not
the emotions of it. You're just wrong. I'm telling you
why they created the page black on White violence, it's
because it's racially white on black violence is racially motivated.
It's a fucking KKK talking point reference black on black

(02:13:04):
violence because it's not racially motivated. So don't say that.
Stop saying it. It's not about does it hurt my feelings.
It's wrong and allows people to keep mislabeling and mistreating
or black people.

Speaker 5 (02:13:19):
Stop saying it.

Speaker 7 (02:13:22):
Like you said before, you don't hear them saying Asian
on Asian, white on white, brown on brown.

Speaker 1 (02:13:27):
It's picking picking.

Speaker 11 (02:13:29):
No, but you guys, hear everything, but the point that's
being made.

Speaker 7 (02:13:32):
That's what all he said was, don't say it that
express your point but especial point without saying that right there,
that's what he said.

Speaker 1 (02:13:42):
That's what I said. Emotions on it, but glass.

Speaker 11 (02:13:45):
But you're hearing glasses emotions, but you're not hearing the point.

Speaker 7 (02:13:49):
It's not no, no, no, no, no, I'm saying it wasn't emotion.
It was more of a correction. It wasn't that emotion.

Speaker 11 (02:13:53):
You don't get my point? Trap, Can you explain the
glasses my point, whether you agree or not.

Speaker 1 (02:13:57):
What so that we've been talking about this, No he
is I don't I.

Speaker 6 (02:14:05):
Don't like categorize, categorize.

Speaker 9 (02:14:08):
Women like you're saying them are though. No, I don't
know if we agree with everything Sherry say. Because she
didn't have my fucking struggles.

Speaker 6 (02:14:14):
Excuse my language.

Speaker 9 (02:14:15):
She didn't.

Speaker 6 (02:14:15):
She didn't grow up.

Speaker 9 (02:14:16):
Poorly on ninety fourth, ninety second and May Avenue. She
didn't have to go through none of my struggles at all.

Speaker 6 (02:14:22):
You feel me.

Speaker 11 (02:14:23):
She didn't get.

Speaker 9 (02:14:24):
Married to a gang banger or none of that shit.

Speaker 11 (02:14:27):
It happily divorced. So she didn't go to Prinson.

Speaker 9 (02:14:29):
She didn't go to prisons every weekend's level four and
level threes for fourteen years.

Speaker 6 (02:14:33):
You feel me.

Speaker 9 (02:14:34):
So, I don't like the people like, oh damn, because
they're women, those are they?

Speaker 1 (02:14:37):
No?

Speaker 9 (02:14:38):
I don't agree with a lot of shit she say,
because it don't sound like the female I am.

Speaker 6 (02:14:42):
I come from the struggle. I don't come from a
privileged life. I don't come with a silver spoon. You
feel me. So when I agree, when I agree with.

Speaker 9 (02:14:50):
Glasses with some things, before he even let me agree,
he'll automatically. Sometimes I'm not gonna say every time, he'll
assume and it'll be like like the like the word
she just us like it's like a syens him on
the topic of what did you just say, Sherry about.

Speaker 11 (02:15:04):
The word what insensitivity?

Speaker 6 (02:15:06):
Yes, I always like on certain topics like with that.
He'll be like, go ahead, hold on.

Speaker 3 (02:15:13):
Listen, queen, I don't have word sensitivity. There's words made
to weaponize against poor black people. Whether y'all know this
or not, whether y'all understand this or not, black on
black is one of those words.

Speaker 1 (02:15:27):
Please don't do that here.

Speaker 11 (02:15:31):
Let me say something that y'all don't know. Glasses knows
because Glasses has known me for over thirty years. Right,
even though we didn't talk a lot of times. I'm
gonna say something because I keep hearing this and Glasses
can agree to this. Okay.

Speaker 10 (02:15:42):
I did grow up in a struggle. When I was
living in the farms.

Speaker 11 (02:15:45):
I was living with my grandmother's church friend, her best
friend when my grandmother died, and we went to go
live with her after my grandmother died because my mom
went to jail. Right, no, no, no, no, hold on.

Speaker 10 (02:16:01):
But sometimes no, I'm not going to.

Speaker 11 (02:16:02):
Do the struggle Olympics, but to make it seem as
if I don't understand Glasses knows my story.

Speaker 10 (02:16:08):
He knows. So I'm speaking genuinely for the kids that
were hurt during the struggles for the people. Hey, glasses,
let me finish. Wait, glasses, I'm almost done.

Speaker 11 (02:16:20):
No to me, Charles, shut up.

Speaker 1 (02:16:23):
Oh my god.

Speaker 10 (02:16:25):
So I'm speaking from the heart.

Speaker 11 (02:16:28):
I genuinely have went through this, And no, I was
never bullied because my brothers were active gang members. Guys,
this is not something i'm saying like I'm speaking from
my patio roof as if like, look at them, look
at them, look at them. I'm speaking from experience. Just
because I'm educated doesn't mean I didn't go through a struggle.

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
Of course, I.

Speaker 3 (02:16:48):
Did struggle with being a gang member. So when you're speaking, I.

Speaker 11 (02:16:53):
Was raised around gang members, Glasses, I was raised around y'all.

Speaker 14 (02:16:57):
Like you don't know me.

Speaker 3 (02:16:58):
I'm not saying you were raised around game. Is what
I'm telling you is you don't know the culture of
what's happening even where you're att That's what I'm saying
to you. I'm saying even where you're standing at in
the West Side. Even the person we're talking about, I'm
telling you they're an active gang.

Speaker 11 (02:17:13):
Member and was loved by somebody.

Speaker 5 (02:17:17):
Hold on, Sherry. You only know them as a good person.

Speaker 3 (02:17:20):
But what I'm telling you, Sherry is most people from
the community are good people. Even the active gang member, Sherry,
even the person were talking about that we won't name
that you're talking about from the West that passed away,
Rest his soul.

Speaker 5 (02:17:33):
He was an active gang member.

Speaker 10 (02:17:37):
He didn't get that doesn't mean he wasn't loved by somebody.
He was a part of a brotherhood. He was loved
by people.

Speaker 3 (02:17:44):
Yes, but guess what, just like your husband is and
when your husband went over to that war, to that
other country, somebody could have killed him.

Speaker 5 (02:17:51):
It's not murdered in cold blood.

Speaker 3 (02:17:53):
If they killed him, if he's actively participated in how
people lose their lives as well.

Speaker 10 (02:17:59):
So let's stop right there.

Speaker 11 (02:18:00):
So if he would have lost his life, wouldn't that
have affected my family for generations?

Speaker 1 (02:18:06):
Why the hell?

Speaker 10 (02:18:07):
Wait on, hold on me, So, why are people joining
the big gangs? That's my point.

Speaker 11 (02:18:14):
Remember, if they're the same thing, weight glasses, we're now
on the same age. Don't try to hop off the train.
We're on the train together. We're sitting next to each other.
We're on the same train. Stay on the train with me.
If you're right, if my husband would have been killed
at war, my family would have been traumatized. So, like
most people in the military, we don't want our husbands,
we don't want our kids, we don't want our sons

(02:18:34):
to go to war. No one wants that. But they
sign up for that right because it's a career. It's
a little bit of a tweaqu with gang banging. That's
not a career. That's not gonna take you nowhere.

Speaker 1 (02:18:46):
Sherry.

Speaker 3 (02:18:47):
You're saying your whole point is the money makes it better.
And I'm telling you that's the flaw in your debate
as well, the same thing that makes it okay. Because again,
like I said, you're right. I have known you, and
I know how you see the world. Economics mean entirely
too much to you. I'm telling you it don't make
them better. You're missing what's happening with men men, Sherry.

(02:19:11):
Everybody's not joining the service because of the money. They
don't pay that much, Sherry. It's they don't pay three
thousand dollars a month when you first start the military, Shary.
It ain't like that. They give you a place to
stay in about twelve hundred. It ain't the money. I
was making twelve hundred every four days on the seven
so it's not just the money. It is because something

(02:19:34):
compels you to be with your people as well.

Speaker 1 (02:19:37):
And it's not crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:19:39):
I don't like that you make it seem like it's
crazy for us.

Speaker 5 (02:19:43):
I'm not saying it's right.

Speaker 3 (02:19:44):
I don't think it's right for the military for us,
but I understand people are going to fight, and people
are gonna protect their resources and try to take advantage
and gain more.

Speaker 5 (02:19:55):
I'm not saying it's right. I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (02:19:58):
I'm not glorifying because I'm expressing to you the context.
Just because y'all run around and tell people shary it's
about colors.

Speaker 5 (02:20:06):
I have to give context because you're not giving it.

Speaker 11 (02:20:09):
You're about colors, I said at this point, it's about revenge.
It's about who just tried me. But I think you're
missing what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:20:16):
But that's not even true. That's not even true. It's
not just about revenge. Things go wrong, no different than
American politics when it comes to war, no different than
Russia and Ukraine. Right now, it's human. I'm not saying
it's right. I'm telling you stop acting like it's not
standard in humanity. The only people that don't gotta fight

(02:20:39):
scary is the people too scared too and too rich
to But they send poor people to fight in every level,
whether it's the service, whether it's gang, whether it's Black
people in Oakland that's poor, whether it's brown people that's
poor East LA. Whether it's Yellow people that's poor Loan Beach,
whether it's white people that's poor in Boston. They all
start to fight in some level brotherhood and to fight

(02:21:01):
for resources and whateverever the greater good is for that community.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm telling you it's human. Now,
how do we fix it? We probably would have to
deal with poverty. And this is the part I don't
even know if you are humanity.

Speaker 9 (02:21:18):
This is the part I agree with Glasses about because
I personally think that everything is a gang, whether it's religion,
whether it's a corporation or the streets.

Speaker 6 (02:21:27):
You feel me.

Speaker 10 (02:21:28):
So, do you know the definition of gang?

Speaker 11 (02:21:32):
And I'm not saying that's a definition of a gang.
It's a group of people that agree with one ideology. Right,
That's what a gang is, a group of people that
agree in one ideology. Right, And I get that, but no,
that's what a definition of a gang is. Pull it up.

Speaker 5 (02:21:48):
Modern definition involve crime.

Speaker 11 (02:21:51):
Okay, listen, but the definition of a gang is a
group of people that agree in one ideology, right, so
that ideology has joined them to bring be a brotherhood.
I'm just simply asking, how can we ask the brotherhood
to get together with the other brotherhood so the community
does not have to suffer any further.

Speaker 10 (02:22:08):
Why is that so upsetting to you?

Speaker 3 (02:22:10):
It's not upsetting to me. What I'm telling you, act
like is as hard it is. Act like it is
as hard.

Speaker 1 (02:22:18):
As it is.

Speaker 5 (02:22:19):
Well, tell Trump to get Russian in Ukraine and stop flighting.

Speaker 10 (02:22:22):
Did you just see Trump cuts out the Ukraine president earlier?

Speaker 5 (02:22:25):
I bet you that they're gonna stop the White House.
I bet you TV.

Speaker 6 (02:22:31):
Wait, wait, I want to understand.

Speaker 9 (02:22:35):
I'm trying to understand what you're saying, because Glasses, he
already had movements with unity. I'm trying to understand you
want him to have be the leader of stopping all gangs.

Speaker 6 (02:22:43):
See, it's deeper than what you think.

Speaker 9 (02:22:45):
That's why say our opinions are different because I think
if demons involved, I think it's cultural. I think it's
a brotherhood. I think it's a whole lot. You know
what I'm saying, no, I don't think the whole original
idea of gangs was wrong, but with the other stuff
that came along with the years and years throughout, that's
a difference.

Speaker 1 (02:23:02):
You feel me.

Speaker 11 (02:23:04):
Again my conversation, my topic has been the same for years.
How this brotherhood that you're referring to, since we're not
gonna call it gangs, the brotherhood is causing devastation and
trauma in our communities, specifically speak on I agree, I
agree with you could That's my only point I'm trying

(02:23:25):
to make while y'all out there right in the street
is success in the community.

Speaker 3 (02:23:30):
So if you're asking me how to stop seven Street
Watch Crip from going to war with other communities, I
have the idea. I need sixty careers that pay roughly
sixty to one hundred thousand dollars a year and I
can stop that.

Speaker 11 (02:23:47):
Okay, So you need investors to help stop the gaggle.

Speaker 10 (02:23:52):
So you're saying, if they had John.

Speaker 3 (02:23:53):
Say with me gag banging, I can fix game banking,
and Watts's.

Speaker 6 (02:23:58):
A different.

Speaker 14 (02:24:00):
That's the thing we don't want to get hold on.

Speaker 3 (02:24:02):
Hey hey, hey, hey, hey, I can fix gang banging
and Watts with two thousandreer opportunities that pay sixty to
one hundred thousand dollars a year. Let's go get it
and I'll fix gang banging forever in watts Go.

Speaker 1 (02:24:17):
Your answer serviy.

Speaker 10 (02:24:20):
Trap.

Speaker 11 (02:24:20):
You know that's nonsense. So so once we're gonna watch,
So you're trying to say, so every gang member doesn't
all gang members are unemployed.

Speaker 3 (02:24:29):
I'm telling you the people that you're talking about that
for so long because you couldn't be busting on people go.

Speaker 10 (02:24:34):
To work, hold on glasses.

Speaker 11 (02:24:35):
So just like you said in the military, they only
join because they need the money. So they're only joining
gangs because they need the money because they're employed. So
you're trying to imply that gang members are just gang
banging and don't have jobs. What kind of that's now?

Speaker 10 (02:24:46):
That's but literally no, I.

Speaker 11 (02:24:48):
Never said that.

Speaker 3 (02:24:49):
Is I'm telling you is you don't really join a gang.
You're from where you're from, period. The reason you start
committing crimes is because there's a lack of other things
to do.

Speaker 11 (02:25:01):
What do you think her he's the other words, the difference.

Speaker 6 (02:25:07):
This is the difference.

Speaker 9 (02:25:08):
Because it's like you're affiliated by whether your brothers are
in the same household, your family, or you grew.

Speaker 3 (02:25:13):
Up wherever you Let's let's not do that, queen, focus
right now on this right here.

Speaker 17 (02:25:18):
Two thousand, not like that, not like that, two thousand careers,
watch sports person, two thousand careers in Watts sixty seventy
thousand star that I'd fix, game banging and watch.

Speaker 11 (02:25:35):
So you have a lot of rich friends, right, doctor
dre Kendrick Lamar. Have you ever talked to them about
some sort of crown funding? Have you went to the
hoods and so, let's do crowdfunding so we could.

Speaker 1 (02:25:44):
Get this going.

Speaker 10 (02:25:48):
Have you ever presented that in real life?

Speaker 11 (02:25:50):
Have you put have you typed up a business proposal
and said, hey, we could drop violence that by this
much percentage if we get this many people jobs with
this income. Have you ever typed any proper one to
any of those big cats to be like, this is
what we could do. No, you have No, he.

Speaker 6 (02:26:05):
Can't do that.

Speaker 11 (02:26:06):
Hold on, so let me tell you so he could
just speak it like the way I speak it. They
don't have the money, doctor, j doesn't have the money. No,
oh you thought he did.

Speaker 6 (02:26:19):
He don't have the money, Jerry.

Speaker 9 (02:26:21):
I think you're missing something of this when you remember
there's certain things that you just can't do.

Speaker 14 (02:26:27):
It's certain codes, and it's it's a lot that's even.

Speaker 1 (02:26:30):
True, Brendy.

Speaker 5 (02:26:30):
I could talk to anybody about anything.

Speaker 3 (02:26:32):
I can go talk to somebody about stopping Go sit
down with the Sixers and they trades, and talk to
them about stopping the war.

Speaker 5 (02:26:38):
But if I don't have a couple.

Speaker 3 (02:26:40):
Thousand jobs to get people distracted from everything they lost
over this time and an opportunity to make something better
out of their life, then I'm about to play myself.
I can get some I could buy somebody life for
a couple of days.

Speaker 6 (02:26:51):
So let me ask you a question. You're telling me.

Speaker 9 (02:26:54):
With a billion dollars, right, you could stop all gangs.

Speaker 11 (02:26:56):
Right.

Speaker 6 (02:26:58):
I think it's bigger.

Speaker 11 (02:26:58):
Than just think.

Speaker 3 (02:27:00):
Hold on, it's gonna cost billion dollars again. You just
asking me the problem with America. You're saying, hey, glasses,
how do you stop it? You know when most game
bankers stop game banking.

Speaker 11 (02:27:14):
When they're don there in jail or something or have
a family.

Speaker 3 (02:27:22):
You know when most homey stopped game bag when they
get a job, they start driving trucks, when they start
actually making livable wages, when they can pay for when
they can take care of their kids and their baby mama.
Stop talking about them like they're a piece of ship
when they don't have to depend on they.

Speaker 9 (02:27:37):
And all this other stuff like don't I said, do
you motivate them and tell them that?

Speaker 11 (02:27:41):
Do you motivate them and tell them that, like, hey,
you could get a job a truck.

Speaker 3 (02:27:45):
Give me some questions, and I'm the only crip on stage.
I'm answering the questions.

Speaker 10 (02:27:49):
I would say, pizza, honorary crypt, I would give trapped.

Speaker 11 (02:27:52):
I like trapp, so I'm gonna make him an honorary
blood trap. What you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (02:27:59):
Up? No? No, nootbody, hold on, hold on, hold.

Speaker 3 (02:28:13):
On, somebody please help me. Are we condoning gang violence? No,
I'm just telling you I'm not condoning gang violence. They
have a legal system. I've never rallied against the legal
system to say, hey, please do not arrest people for
killing each other. I'm not I'm not advocating against or
I'm not trying to condone gang violence. I don't have

(02:28:35):
to actually be against it or for it. There's a
system in place, a law, a state. You're asking me,
why would I shoot a motherfucker. Are you asking me
why do motherfuckers go to jail for shooting motherfuckers?

Speaker 11 (02:28:48):
So why do you write around Strapp?

Speaker 1 (02:28:50):
You said who?

Speaker 11 (02:28:51):
Who would you write around? You wanted to Well, no,
I'm not saying he is. So let's say what if
that was in your dream? Why would you do that?

Speaker 10 (02:28:59):
Because somebody but in the.

Speaker 11 (02:29:00):
Comments, a black man walking l A at night is
a target. It's not safe on these streets. That's what
I'm trying to tell them. Plassa said it's safe, Classic
said it's safe.

Speaker 1 (02:29:10):
It is safe, and.

Speaker 3 (02:29:13):
Sherry Sherry, they walk around Texas with guns. I don't
know who gonna do whatever to what. That's not the point.
I'm not in fear of my life every day.

Speaker 11 (02:29:21):
Sharey y'all live what Rob TV, Rob Dove TV. What
we were saying. I'm trying to say that gang violence
affects the community and it needs to stop. Glasses has
been telling me that gangs are like the US military.
They do it because it's a brotherhood, just a bunch
of rambling without just saying no, it affects the community

(02:29:45):
and things have to change.

Speaker 3 (02:29:46):
I'm telling you your husband affected the community, but you're
not speaking against the military. What I would like you
to do is stop speaking against poor black people. That's
what I'm telling you.

Speaker 11 (02:29:54):
But why when I'm speaking in general, I don't like
that you're saying poor black people. That kind of sounds degrading,
like the way you say black black crime. I never
once said black people.

Speaker 1 (02:30:02):
You're not you're not under samity.

Speaker 11 (02:30:04):
But why are you saying black people. I'm talking about
all gangs, Spanish gangs. I'm talking about all gangs. They
all cause violence because putting the label on black people.
There's Spanish gang members, there's white gang members.

Speaker 5 (02:30:18):
Hold on, hold on, you shouldn't.

Speaker 11 (02:30:21):
That black term. I just think that's like disingenuous.

Speaker 3 (02:30:24):
I'm telling you, you're not saying it right now about
Russian Ukraine, even though it affects people in this country,
your neighbors. I'm gonna say, you're not saying the same
thing about Israel and Palestine and inspect people. It affects
people in this country, that's your neighbors. I'm telling you.
The one place that's probably not affecting you is a
place where you was at a long time ago. But

(02:30:46):
I noticed you tend to pick on poor black people,
and I'm tired of.

Speaker 11 (02:30:50):
I never did you ever hear me saying glass He's
saying poor black people. That's not right.

Speaker 3 (02:30:57):
People from LA to hold on because that's you two queen.

Speaker 1 (02:31:01):
You do the same.

Speaker 10 (02:31:02):
Thing, gallous.

Speaker 9 (02:31:10):
Queen, ghetto ignorant as trifling bullies.

Speaker 11 (02:31:17):
I am, and I'm.

Speaker 14 (02:31:18):
Gonna get I'm a military baby, and.

Speaker 5 (02:31:27):
You tell me, hey, l a street culture.

Speaker 3 (02:31:30):
They they they have to just they taught to do
this to women, abuse women.

Speaker 5 (02:31:34):
That's not true.

Speaker 14 (02:31:35):
So yes, anything I say once, I'm gonna say a
million times.

Speaker 6 (02:31:38):
They know how I feel.

Speaker 10 (02:31:38):
They call me on behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (02:31:41):
God, hold on, I'm telling you, yes, I'm going to
degree disagree with that because I've never been taught by
no older homie to abuse women.

Speaker 9 (02:31:55):
Well, I personally think a lot is wrong with the culture,
whether you're from a gang or not. When you from
the culture you from LA, I think a lot of
I've been saying, it's just before time club here.

Speaker 3 (02:32:05):
Totally disagree with you. Totally disagree with you. That's my point.

Speaker 6 (02:32:11):
And what do I always do?

Speaker 9 (02:32:12):
Pick your mind and tell you to ask tell me why,
ask you to tell me why I'm trying to figure.

Speaker 3 (02:32:17):
It out culturally? Is not at all this thing. Like
I'm telling you you.

Speaker 11 (02:32:22):
Can't ask that question black. If cripture is to teach
your meeting, that will be a sense of glasses. So
just ask if people and don't say black either.

Speaker 1 (02:32:34):
Parent teach your meetings.

Speaker 11 (02:32:36):
Yes, the word black is offensive unless I say it.
I never said black people are poor black people. That's
what I'm saying. Glasses be like arguing like an angry
baby daddy, coming up with topics that that aren't even irrelevant,
or that aren't even relevant to what we're talking about,
that an't affect the community. Get the brotherhood together. See
what we could do, See what anyone could do.

Speaker 10 (02:32:55):
But it's not.

Speaker 11 (02:32:56):
Safe in these streets. Y'all need to keep some kids
in the house.

Speaker 1 (02:32:59):
You need to get there.

Speaker 6 (02:33:01):
You gotta understand Glasses as a representatives.

Speaker 11 (02:33:03):
He's a face.

Speaker 9 (02:33:04):
He would never do the things that you want him
to do. Let's be real, be honest. I keep that
ship one hundred You feel me?

Speaker 1 (02:33:10):
Did you keep it one hundred? On what I would do?

Speaker 14 (02:33:11):
That's not your brand.

Speaker 6 (02:33:13):
So it's not your brand my brand.

Speaker 1 (02:33:15):
You think I wouldn't do what exactly?

Speaker 11 (02:33:17):
Talk to She's trying to say, you market gang bangangs.
So she can't expect for you to try to bring
peace to it because you market it.

Speaker 10 (02:33:23):
And it's true.

Speaker 9 (02:33:24):
I think is a very highly intelligent, general, respectable, legendary star.

Speaker 6 (02:33:31):
You know, I come mentor. But I also think he
knows his brand.

Speaker 11 (02:33:36):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 6 (02:33:40):
I was born into this ship. Let's be real.

Speaker 5 (02:33:44):
You're not born to You're not a crypt You're not
born into this.

Speaker 11 (02:33:49):
So we're not boring.

Speaker 18 (02:33:52):
So you're saying that we're not the gang growing up
in the night crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:33:58):
You Stop talking like you are, Sherry, You're not a
gang member. Stop talking like you are.

Speaker 14 (02:34:09):
There's now we're talking like we're This is crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:34:14):
One gang member on this panel, and I'm telling you
how it goes.

Speaker 11 (02:34:20):
The younger generations out of control. Glasses on, Pete, did
you hear about that story? Weight hold on, hold on,
because this is real life.

Speaker 10 (02:34:28):
It's a guy, a rapper in Miami.

Speaker 11 (02:34:31):
I don't know nothing. Last you got the Bible, you
know everything. Let you say one thing, Pete, right now,
in Miami, I'm square clean one second. Right now, the
gangs are not respectful like they used to be. These
little kids are going after people's moms. There's a rapper
in Miami. Two rappers that killed each other's moms. This

(02:34:55):
one's mom was killed. This one's mom was killed. I
don't think you guys understand this generation is not the
same as us. Something has lacked there. I don't know
if it came from home, but this generation.

Speaker 10 (02:35:06):
Is drugged out.

Speaker 11 (02:35:07):
They have no respect for society, They don't have respect
for the community.

Speaker 10 (02:35:11):
And something has happened here. If you don't, if you don't.

Speaker 9 (02:35:14):
See that, though, a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:35:17):
Of those numbers are are down though, like homicide numbers
are down relative to previous areas.

Speaker 1 (02:35:23):
Say have you been to the hood.

Speaker 8 (02:35:25):
And disagree with what you're saying?

Speaker 7 (02:35:27):
But no, no, no, no, no, no hold on, say are
you going off what you hear about in the hood.

Speaker 10 (02:35:33):
No, this was on the news right here, on my news.

Speaker 8 (02:35:36):
This was on the news.

Speaker 10 (02:35:40):
It was people. It was all on the news.

Speaker 11 (02:35:42):
Everyone knows.

Speaker 1 (02:35:45):
The TV off.

Speaker 11 (02:35:45):
We all know.

Speaker 1 (02:35:46):
Is what the news reported to you.

Speaker 11 (02:35:48):
That's the people's mothers were murdered by two separate gangs.

Speaker 10 (02:35:53):
These were murders. One was going to her beauty supply,
the other one.

Speaker 11 (02:35:56):
Was in her mini van. And you're telling me the gangs.
You're trying to say this generation of gangs are the same.

Speaker 5 (02:36:03):
You don't know what happened. You don't know what happened.

Speaker 10 (02:36:06):
All you know, what ever happened. They should never target nobody's.

Speaker 11 (02:36:09):
Parents, all you know.

Speaker 9 (02:36:12):
I just know it's more commotional lives, it's more profitable,
it's more.

Speaker 11 (02:36:18):
That's what I know.

Speaker 3 (02:36:20):
Listen. You don't know what happened. All you know is
the news told you something. You don't know what happened.

Speaker 10 (02:36:31):
You know, mothers whose sons are having beef on the
street is fine.

Speaker 1 (02:36:36):
Glasses, you don't know if my son committed.

Speaker 11 (02:36:39):
Some ship on the street and they come and give
me you think that's okay because I don't know what happened.

Speaker 10 (02:36:43):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 5 (02:36:46):
You don't know what happened. You don't know what happened.

Speaker 11 (02:36:48):
Wow, this is the problem, y'all.

Speaker 9 (02:36:52):
I do agree with Glasses on more poverty. It's going
to be more crime, can I know?

Speaker 11 (02:36:56):
But this is the problem. This generation are not the
same games there.

Speaker 9 (02:37:01):
I don't know, Listen, I don't know about what's more,
what's more because it was the cameras in the nineties.
But what I will say is that if I was
to have a son right now or adopted son next
year or so.

Speaker 6 (02:37:12):
I would never raise him in.

Speaker 9 (02:37:13):
The hoods I grew up in, or we lived in
from the.

Speaker 14 (02:37:16):
East of the West, I would never.

Speaker 9 (02:37:17):
It's just impossible, Like you know, it's just it's poisonous.
I know what the trauma is, losing random family members
just because they wasn't even active, they were just standing outside.

Speaker 14 (02:37:28):
You're not gonna.

Speaker 9 (02:37:28):
Pretend like it's not trauma from the broken homes and
me and Glasses going back and forth about that.

Speaker 11 (02:37:32):
Right home, he said, what's the individual?

Speaker 14 (02:37:36):
It's not all this, No, it's the whole fucking culture,
the gang coulture. Stop playing it like it's not a
gang culture.

Speaker 9 (02:37:42):
That's why I can speak from experience.

Speaker 3 (02:37:46):
Not raising your kid has nothing to do with gang.
Baby being a dead bee father has nothing to do
with culture.

Speaker 1 (02:37:52):
Nothing.

Speaker 6 (02:37:54):
It's such at.

Speaker 11 (02:37:55):
Home, the perients of responsibility for their kids we're doing
it has nothing to do with culture, nothing to do
with culture.

Speaker 5 (02:38:05):
Somebody not raising their son has nothing to do with culture.

Speaker 10 (02:38:08):
That's nothing that says you gotta stop this, you gotta stop.

Speaker 9 (02:38:12):
Okay, Trap, We just had this conversation Glasses on Trap
stage about how it's like at least four or five factors.
I was the only one saying it's like four or
five factors. You got phones, you've got the media, you
got all kinds of shit that's influencing the culture making
it cool.

Speaker 6 (02:38:25):
Let's stop playing, let's stop pretending.

Speaker 3 (02:38:27):
It's not cool or street arm the culture to not
raise your kids.

Speaker 5 (02:38:32):
Stop lying?

Speaker 10 (02:38:34):
What so you okay, so.

Speaker 11 (02:38:37):
You're agreeing with me that a lot of this neglect
and these kids not having manners and being on that
bullshit starts at home because it's not the parent's responsibility
to parent.

Speaker 10 (02:38:47):
You know what I.

Speaker 11 (02:38:48):
Should Glasses will say that because Glass just said if
he was a stepdad, his kid will call him because
not dad. So I I you know what, I get it.
I get it.

Speaker 10 (02:38:59):
Glass said, Yes, he said his step.

Speaker 1 (02:39:07):
Hold on queen, hold on queen please.

Speaker 10 (02:39:11):
That's why he That's why he's laughing.

Speaker 11 (02:39:13):
Kind of you.

Speaker 14 (02:39:15):
You were accountable, Blastes Okay, Yes, I think.

Speaker 1 (02:39:23):
He was joking. He was joking. He was joking serious,
he was going out on us.

Speaker 11 (02:39:26):
He's like, no, he could call me because and I
was like, wow, that's crazy. And then of course like
shut up, Sherry, you non black person, shut up, and
I was like, Wow.

Speaker 9 (02:39:34):
That's just I'm not trying to be disrespectful. And you
gotta admits that game it's poisonous. You gotta admit that
it is a programming. You gotta admit that it is
a mental demon to stop playing like it's.

Speaker 11 (02:39:50):
Not all in the day exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:39:56):
Age.

Speaker 3 (02:39:56):
So, as the only person on this stage who's been programmed,
I'm telling you your room.

Speaker 10 (02:40:02):
Okay, Glasses.

Speaker 1 (02:40:04):
Do you know anybody that kids call them because you win?

Speaker 6 (02:40:07):
Glasses?

Speaker 7 (02:40:08):
You win?

Speaker 10 (02:40:08):
Okay, that's first this stage, that's you're the problem.

Speaker 1 (02:40:14):
That's kind of different. That's kind of different though.

Speaker 11 (02:40:16):
That's so your stepson to call you because that's that's
the problem.

Speaker 1 (02:40:20):
I mean, what's that? And my kids gonna be pop.

Speaker 9 (02:40:23):
Up everybody, everybody different because my little they can't even
play with me with the game ship and they've grown,
they can't even play with me talking ignorant or disrespectful,
our banging or nothing in the twenty five twenty six
Nieces and nephews, straight up, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (02:40:43):
Do you understand what we're saying?

Speaker 14 (02:40:45):
I think it's cute.

Speaker 10 (02:40:46):
Do you understand what me and Queen are trying to.

Speaker 8 (02:40:48):
Say, though I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 11 (02:40:52):
He t ready to go. This life has been going
for three hours. Well, I'm gonna let you guys go
because it seems like this is never gonna get through
to anyone but for the audience.

Speaker 10 (02:41:02):
Gang banging affects the community as a whole.

Speaker 11 (02:41:04):
It's collective punishment to everyone that has to witness this nonsense.

Speaker 10 (02:41:08):
And until this quote unquote.

Speaker 11 (02:41:10):
Brotherhood comes together, it's gonna be more generational deaths. It's
gonna be more generational violence. More people are gonna have
watching this violence.

Speaker 7 (02:41:19):
Before you start saying that, what did you say, trapping,
Turn the TV off and go see what is really
looking like.

Speaker 11 (02:41:28):
I told you I go to Miami gardens all the time.
I have family down there. I just went to Compton
when I was out there a few years ago. I'm
my brother just went to three funerals in Compton.

Speaker 8 (02:41:39):
Sherry real quick.

Speaker 4 (02:41:42):
But like, what what part of the area do you think,
because you said like it's and it is criminally congested
in the city of Miami, like I love Western.

Speaker 10 (02:41:53):
Hold on, So Pete just tried me.

Speaker 11 (02:41:55):
What Pete is asking me what this is equivalent to
what Pete just asked me, Hey, what part of the
hood are you from? Palisades?

Speaker 10 (02:42:02):
No Peak, shut up.

Speaker 1 (02:42:06):
Miami earlier, my grandma.

Speaker 11 (02:42:11):
But when I go see my cousins in Miami, they
live on one eighty third and twenty seventh, right in
the middle of the gardens.

Speaker 4 (02:42:20):
Ask you for some sort of med I just wondered
if you lived somewhere that didn't have bad traffic, because
I live in the like lower intestine of all traffic.

Speaker 11 (02:42:29):
No, I actually live in Port Saint Lucie. I live
in uh Sta. I live in p g A right now,
they're actually having the International Golf Tournament here.

Speaker 1 (02:42:39):
You know I to live. I actually live in Bell Glade.

Speaker 7 (02:42:41):
When I was in Florida, you said in Bell Glade Glade, Rabbit.

Speaker 11 (02:42:47):
You know, I'm looking a buy property out there, and
I could. I'm looking at by land out there, and Okachoby,
they got plots of land out there for sale for
like twenty three thirty thousand dollars right now for like
five acres.

Speaker 1 (02:42:58):
That's a fact.

Speaker 9 (02:42:59):
Yeah. Perspective is is is totally different between all of
us on this panel.

Speaker 6 (02:43:06):
You know, experiences.

Speaker 1 (02:43:07):
I don't have perspective because you're not gang.

Speaker 11 (02:43:10):
We don't even count We don't even matter, Sherry. Okay,
well that's the gang banging mentality.

Speaker 10 (02:43:15):
Not only is Glasses a.

Speaker 1 (02:43:17):
He's actually too politics game.

Speaker 6 (02:43:23):
Oh I didn't.

Speaker 19 (02:43:24):
Okay, y'all are for real, y'all excellent and mobile call
two right there, Gas thing like a motherfucker the curser
god that.

Speaker 11 (02:43:35):
Now we're just speaking facts that gangs do affect the
community as a whole.

Speaker 10 (02:43:39):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:43:40):
We all agree.

Speaker 11 (02:43:42):
Yes, unknown writer, I was around gangs in l A.
I just told you I grew up and comped in
my whole life.

Speaker 1 (02:43:47):
I grew up. You know why she answered that question?
Is now.

Speaker 5 (02:43:56):
What Cherry Wooden day a brother.

Speaker 11 (02:44:00):
My husband's.

Speaker 1 (02:44:02):
Real.

Speaker 11 (02:44:03):
This is what.

Speaker 10 (02:44:06):
So this is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:44:07):
Right.

Speaker 11 (02:44:07):
Once Glasses realizes what he's saying doesn't make sense, he
tries to just throw some crazy ship out there. Then
his stands me in my d M after we hang
up on Instagrams and fans me and my damn. You
shouldn't treat Glasses like that.

Speaker 10 (02:44:25):
Just let him talk.

Speaker 11 (02:44:26):
She needs to get here and ruin his show.

Speaker 10 (02:44:35):
And joking.

Speaker 11 (02:44:38):
Week clean queen, listen, I'm not joking. In the comments
someone put that's ridiculous. He had like a green next him.
If you scroll up, she came out here and ruined
the whole show. And Glasses is standing there quiet.

Speaker 10 (02:44:50):
Letting it be.

Speaker 7 (02:44:50):
Is like.

Speaker 9 (02:44:55):
Some weirdo was messaging me and trolling me, disrespecting me.
I'm like, hey, who are you? You know, I ain't
trying to bang, going to great all the time.

Speaker 8 (02:45:05):
I just hardly even say anything. I just sit here,
emils to know.

Speaker 11 (02:45:10):
His fans be in there, like, shut up, be quiet,
Glasses nose everything while he's running the career, which is
promoting games.

Speaker 7 (02:45:20):
That's brotherhood. That's called brotherhood. You know what I'm saying.
That's what's happening right there.

Speaker 9 (02:45:24):
That's just Joey said, address arelasses for giving our opinion.

Speaker 3 (02:45:32):
I think your opinion is ignorant. Neither one of y'all
are gang members, and I'm giving y'all insight.

Speaker 11 (02:45:40):
So whoever does not want to be a gang member,
listen to us. If you want to be a gang
member and.

Speaker 10 (02:45:45):
Get hurt listening to him, Yeah, go to college.

Speaker 9 (02:45:47):
And get your degrees, get a career, moving the suburbs.

Speaker 6 (02:45:50):

Speaker 11 (02:45:51):
And you can still go to college.

Speaker 6 (02:45:53):
Everything like that.

Speaker 9 (02:45:54):
You know, whatever, career and and better the culture, the society.
You know, you don't have to I don't want to
use the word, but you don't have to be against
the other side or the other streets or anything like that.

Speaker 6 (02:46:04):
You know what I'm saying. You know you totally.

Speaker 11 (02:46:08):
She's saying you could agree to disagree. So I think
we can all agree to disagree. I'm gonna let y'all
go because it doesn't matter. And when we hang up, Glasses,
please don't call my phone once we hang up off
this live and be like, Sherry, how can you say that?
Whenever we have these successions, he'll call me privately and.

Speaker 18 (02:46:23):
One bang on me.

Speaker 7 (02:46:30):
You just call him when he calls you, a responsor
a response to the convertict I just had on the
live time that he's begging on you.

Speaker 11 (02:46:39):
Glasses will call and bang on me. And when I
say that, but that's something.

Speaker 7 (02:46:46):
More pavement because you're going off on you.

Speaker 11 (02:46:54):
Like how could you disagree? What is not making sense?
And then we'll have a conversation for another four hours
and it goes somewhere.

Speaker 10 (02:47:05):
I'm not mad, Monteiga.

Speaker 11 (02:47:06):
I'm just speaking up for people that can't speak. Gang
violence is really destroying the community and a lot of
people are traumatized by it. It's nothing that should be glorified.
Trust me, these are good men that are just in
bad situations. But it should never be glorified. No war
should ever be glorified. How about that.

Speaker 9 (02:47:24):
Now, what I will say is that if you're from
a gang, you're from our era, including Glasses era, then
that's okay.

Speaker 14 (02:47:29):
You can't help where you're from.

Speaker 9 (02:47:31):
You can't help what you got put on. But as
far as in going against the culture, that's something totally separate.
I will say that anybody that's twenty years old or
a key trying to be banging, they.

Speaker 6 (02:47:40):
Have no excuse to do this.

Speaker 9 (02:47:42):
They're just doing it for clout and fun, and it's
bigger than fun. I will say that that's Queen Lady
Yat talking period.

Speaker 11 (02:47:48):
We don't need no more trans gang members. If you're
not a real gang member, don't try to be a trans.
Stay on the good side and you'll get out. Are
you gonna close out your show? Glasses?

Speaker 1 (02:48:00):
Women?

Speaker 11 (02:48:01):
Women, don't respect women.

Speaker 6 (02:48:04):
Don't women women?

Speaker 9 (02:48:07):
Yeah, don't hit women, don't abuse them, don't jump on them,
and all that's cow punk bully stuff.

Speaker 10 (02:48:12):
Don't do that.

Speaker 9 (02:48:12):
That's that's non manly, that's inhimmune.

Speaker 11 (02:48:15):
So don't do that. And don't be dancing the songs
to talk about spiking our drinks, riding up on, sliding
on the homies.

Speaker 10 (02:48:22):
Don't do that either.

Speaker 6 (02:48:23):
What no raping, no weirdo?

Speaker 11 (02:48:27):
That's is it?

Speaker 10 (02:48:33):
Rick Cross?

Speaker 11 (02:48:34):
Wasn't it? Rick Ross, Glass's favorite rapper that he said
he loves.

Speaker 7 (02:48:42):
I don't really do this beg on Glasses day right now,
we're right there.

Speaker 8 (02:48:52):
Podcast, Yeah, what happened?

Speaker 10 (02:48:55):
That was the title of the last podcast, Don't bang
on Glasses.

Speaker 8 (02:49:00):
Everybody is attacking glasses or something along the lines of.

Speaker 9 (02:49:03):
Well, he made a whole album saying f glasses. I
don't know why he used that title, but I still
love his music, though. You know, I want to congratulate
to classes. Glasses don't drink, he don't do drugs, He
don't harm people, and.

Speaker 6 (02:49:22):
I really do appreciate that.

Speaker 9 (02:49:23):
That's why I tune in, and that's why it's been
twenty years since I've looked up to him.

Speaker 6 (02:49:28):
And I do appreciate you.

Speaker 9 (02:49:29):
I hope you get every flower that you deserve.

Speaker 6 (02:49:32):
And that's it.

Speaker 11 (02:49:35):
Well, I hope you get your shit together, Glasses and
wake up and see reality for what it is and
how it's destroying the community, and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 3 (02:49:44):
I'm gonna be a cryptoi died, but thank you and
Queen for having this conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:49:49):
I'll do y'all. So yeah, no, not yet, we almost did.

Speaker 8 (02:49:57):
True. I do not know an honest question.

Speaker 1 (02:50:01):
Uhh, that's a good one. That was good, man. I
like it. Ry, like Queen, Queen and Sherry was like
just madness. They had like Shirley.

Speaker 4 (02:50:18):
For months and they just hit us all on the
foreheads with high velocity quirks.

Speaker 7 (02:50:24):
They probably had like a whole had any notes of saying,
I'm gonna say this, this this dude, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:50:29):
They wasn't like that.

Speaker 7 (02:50:29):
She knew what she was gonna be able to say.

Speaker 1 (02:50:33):
It was funny.

Speaker 3 (02:50:34):
I cannot get why people think I glorified gag man.
I think people confuse me being proud of how I
grew up. You know what I'm saying, as me glorifying it.
I think that's what I'm confused. I think they want me.

Speaker 8 (02:50:52):
To be shamed, thin and delicate mine to walk. It's
it's it's.

Speaker 4 (02:51:01):
Flirtatious with contradictory, Like you like, how proclaiming my pride
in blank isn't glorifying blank? Is a really that's a
really really narrow space, like that's that's that's that's that's
very gray. Just just principally not even saying in your

(02:51:24):
life like that's that's a hard line to walk in
general speaking.

Speaker 3 (02:51:27):
Okay, So what she's saying to me when she's saying
glory is is the life that my crippen admirable?

Speaker 1 (02:51:36):
It is.

Speaker 3 (02:51:39):
That's my problem growing up, how we grew up trap
is admirable.

Speaker 7 (02:51:51):
Yeah, because she wants I think I think that.

Speaker 5 (02:51:56):
Is people saying the life that glasses lead is it admirable?

Speaker 1 (02:52:01):
It is.

Speaker 3 (02:52:03):
Coming from our backgrounds. That's why hip hop is so great.
That's why hip hop is so great because coming from
these backgrounds, surviving through all this traumatic stuff and maybe
you write Pete, maybe you right, like it is a
very admirable thing to change your circumstances. Even selling drugs

(02:52:25):
to overcome poverty is an admirable thing. It's the reason
why people admired Scarface in the film because of his
struggle and come up story.

Speaker 8 (02:52:36):
Sure, and in that it's.

Speaker 1 (02:52:43):
Not like.

Speaker 4 (02:52:46):
It's not easiest to find a separation line between like
that concept and glorification or to like separately put silo
over transcending into being a successful rapper or just selling.

Speaker 8 (02:53:05):
Drugs for money and game bang as separate.

Speaker 4 (02:53:07):
Like, there's not a lot of clarity on separation, and
there's not a lot of clarity on separation between admirability
and glorification. I would say there's a lot of the challenge. Communicatively,
I would say.

Speaker 1 (02:53:22):
But that's the point.

Speaker 3 (02:53:24):
Like, I get why people admire jay Z's story of
selling drugs and overcoming poverty, but I also understand why
people condemned the American government for flying dope in.

Speaker 1 (02:53:36):
Can you get those two things the difference.

Speaker 4 (02:53:40):
White people could condemn the American government flying dope in
but admire jay be.

Speaker 3 (02:53:45):
Seen as admirable versus jay Z's come from nothing story
using with what he had.

Speaker 8 (02:53:56):
Say the first part again had head finish twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:53:59):
So the same thing is happening, right.

Speaker 5 (02:54:01):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (02:54:03):
Jay Z's come from nothing story using drugs the things
that was available to him to change his circumstances, to
build Rockefeller the record label, to now position himself to
where he's doing business with the NFL and Champagne go
forth and so on, right, Versus you won't look at
the American government letting the kilos and the tons and

(02:54:24):
tons of kilograms of cocaine into the country as.

Speaker 1 (02:54:26):
That's not admirable.

Speaker 8 (02:54:31):
People look.

Speaker 5 (02:54:35):
At the context that creates what glorify.

Speaker 3 (02:54:38):
Glorifying why why it's glorious how we see jay Z's
come up versus why we would look at America this way?
Or like if some man that grew up in Beverly Hills, like,
the context is where the glory comes from.

Speaker 5 (02:54:53):
You get, Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (02:54:54):
It's not actual act, right, It's not the actual act,
it's the common texts that creates the admirable thing. Like
if you like, if you drive down from Beverly Hills, right,
and you join the gang and you start shooting people,
nobody in the community really gonna look at you respectable.

Speaker 1 (02:55:15):
Sure they're gonna take ava.

Speaker 8 (02:55:17):
I get that.

Speaker 4 (02:55:18):
But but in saying that, there's a you know, much
to be admired in the circumstance and the transcendence from
circumstance and separate, separate that from the acts or the actions.

Speaker 3 (02:55:34):
But because the acts, again, this is what I was
telling d one, which is how we started the conversation.
The why is what hip hop is about. It's not
the what. Like when I hear a rapper in Chicago
talking about going to these wars and killing people, I
don't hear him like a serial killer. It's not watching
the Jeffrey Dahmer story. Jeffrey Dahmer is just murdering people

(02:55:54):
because he has a desire to murder. I'm listening to
kids talking about surviving a war. It's the same thing.
Why I was saying to Sherry, Hey, Sherry, like, if
you understand, well, white people say you have to go
to war, and they finance you, they give you one
thousand dollars a month, and you go to war and
you kill over their causes, you don't understand why it
could be looked at admirably. The same So again, context,

(02:56:18):
the act itself is irrelevant. Any act just about ninety
nine percent of the acts. Ninety nine percent of the acts,
you know what I mean. Context create whether we think
it's okay or not culturally.

Speaker 1 (02:56:36):
Right. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:56:37):
So it's like when I'm telling d one, if you like,
there's no reason that murder should be glorified well, that's
not true because if we talk about the American Revolutionary War,
we understand why. If we talk about the Civil War,
we understand why, and we understand why it's glorious.

Speaker 8 (02:56:56):
That would be the same.

Speaker 4 (02:56:57):
That's that's the same miss as.

Speaker 1 (02:57:01):
Saying that.

Speaker 4 (02:57:05):
So and so in Chicago is a serial killer like
Jeffrey Dahmer. Because if there's a difference in definition between
serial killer, then there's a difference between and definition between
murder and killing.

Speaker 3 (02:57:22):
But that's my point. Murder is a legal term. So
that's what I was telling d One. So again we
are all aware of the difference even if the nuance
is different. I mean, if the nuance is different, if
that makes sense, you know what I'm saying, Like, we

(02:57:43):
get what makes jay Z's story great. That's why we
support jay Z. We don't support drug dealing. We support
somebody figuring out how to get their shit together and
change their circumstances.

Speaker 1 (02:57:58):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 7 (02:58:00):
But see, yeah, But the only thing is that right
there is the fact that it doesn't know what I'm saying,
We always look at well, they always look upon him
in the same eyes of where he came from. He
can never he could never go. They could never mentioned
about I mean, they could mention about where he ended

(02:58:20):
up at, but they always mentioned former crack dealer, you
know what I'm saying. So that's just that's just within
like the they never changed the identity of who. You
know what I'm saying, what you can't, what you came
from being, That's what I behaving about it.

Speaker 5 (02:58:33):
I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. I think
that's why.

Speaker 3 (02:58:36):
That's why, this is why I tell you Sloop is
the greatest hip hop artist because he's not a former CRYP.
He understood he could take cryp and make it whatever
he wanted because that's always what being a crypt was about.
It's a way you conduct yourself out in the space.
It's what That's why I give him the credit I
do in hip hop right because once it gets once

(02:58:58):
you get in the style, once you get in a style.

Speaker 5 (02:59:01):
Thank you Amber for that twenty dollars. We have been
here three hour.

Speaker 1 (02:59:04):
This is for sure. You have another one down there
to the tower.

Speaker 3 (02:59:08):
This is like our longest stream of life. I'm gonna
go back through the super chats. Shout out to everybody
bought the super chats. We three hours and this is
by far our longest stream of podcast. Man he means retired.
He never retired. He shout out to Dan Sex. Jay
Z story bad. We shouldn't glorified. I totally disagree, man,
I totally disagree. That's why we do glorify it. That's

(02:59:31):
why it is admirable. That's why we look at jay
Z as an admirable person, and that's what makes hip hop.

Speaker 1 (02:59:38):
Again the nuance.

Speaker 3 (02:59:39):
So when I'm listening to somebody like d One, which
is what the title of the room, or Kanye like
Kanye is comparing, right, Kanye is comparing, Oh, y'all let
black people talk about murdering each other. But then y'all
got a problem with me wearing this swastika shirt. Hey, bro,
don't conflate the two. Don't do that. Don't put a crip.

(03:00:01):
I'm a crip. I'm from Seventh Street.

Speaker 1 (03:00:03):
Watch.

Speaker 3 (03:00:04):
I ain't never put no other person through no gas
chamber just because they was from there. I never decided
to murder kids from another community just because they from there.
So that's what I'm talking about. Where the real conversation
is in Kanye. That's my problem. When you take a

(03:00:26):
when you take a fucking tweet. Let me read the
fucking tweet. Here's the tweet. Here is the fucking tweet.
Where it is that it's in the group chat.

Speaker 1 (03:00:40):
Here, it is.

Speaker 5 (03:00:44):
Uh right here.

Speaker 1 (03:00:46):
That's a long thing. Hold on.

Speaker 3 (03:00:53):
Niggas rap about how many people they killed, but they
scared to wear a swastika T shirt because they labels
and managers and streaming service and touring companies mob up
to stop niggas money. Nobody better than I say shit
to me about my T shirt. Nigga, that ain't. Ain't
nobody scared to wear no Swaska T shirt? Nigga, that
ain't nobody scared of that. It's dumb as fuck. That's

(03:01:17):
why we don't wear that dumb ass fucking shirt. And
I'm for sure ain't wearing some shirt or somebody. I
ain't did nothing too so that I don't like that.
He compared that to the you know what I mean
to being hip hop, Like, Oh, niggas, wrap up, nigga,
we're rapping about a war bro.

Speaker 5 (03:01:37):
This is not the same.

Speaker 1 (03:01:40):
And that's what I'm This.

Speaker 3 (03:01:41):
Is what I get worried about with homies like d One,
with with legends and icons like Kanye West, when they
start to conflate it, like with Sherry. That's what's so
important to me. When Sherry is saying, or like if
Queen is saying, hey, black on black crumb, Hey, don't
do that.

Speaker 1 (03:01:57):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (03:01:59):
Don't do that black on black shit, because don't nobody
say brown on brown, don't say yellow on yellow or white.

Speaker 1 (03:02:05):
Don't don't do that.

Speaker 3 (03:02:07):
That is a term used for something specifically driven by race.
Like Kanye is smart enough to know that that's not
what you're supposed to say. Trap niggas rap about that,
but they scared to wear a squad. Ain't nobody scared
to wear no swatsa. Why the fuck would I wear
swatsika shirt that ain't got nothing to do with fear?

(03:02:28):
Why the fuck would I wear it? So when he
tried to use that, when when Brothers is trying to
use hip hop right hip hop and say, oh, well,
y'all let them do this. No, bro, no, no, that's
the point of hip hop, man, That's the point of

(03:02:49):
hip hop. That's what hip hop is about. So this
is what I'm saying when I'm saying, you can't be
hip hop and anti street if you can't understand the
new one and what's happening you? My friend may not
be hip hop, That's all I'm saying, Pete, Like that
person can't be hip hop.

Speaker 5 (03:03:08):
How the fuck are you hip hop? If you don't
get it?

Speaker 8 (03:03:11):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I mean, like we've
discussed that nauseam. That hip hop.

Speaker 4 (03:03:22):
And the black community quote unquote at large is a
conflation out of context, and all these and all the rest.
I mean, like black coats, a lot of hip hop
is a conflation went out of context.

Speaker 5 (03:03:36):
A black culture is this very narrow thing.

Speaker 3 (03:03:40):
It's not a lot of things culturally most Black people
in this country do. There's a very few things hip hop, street,
urban culture. Hip hop is a lot. It's like, it's
not the same indication of black people. Like it is
the realization of a few black people, but it is
not the indication of how most people behave in this country.

(03:04:02):
It's it's them brothers from the Bronx. It was brothers
in the Bronx. It was brothers and queens that didn't
live there that they was jamming whatever was popping in
the eighties outside of hip hop too.

Speaker 5 (03:04:11):
Everybody didn't get down.

Speaker 1 (03:04:14):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (03:04:14):
That is the cool thing now and this is Sherry's point, Well,
people are gang banging because it's cool.

Speaker 1 (03:04:20):
I agree with Sherry.

Speaker 3 (03:04:21):
I am offended right when people come to try to
look like something that they don't understand what's going on.
I dude, or I don't like that. But that is
not gang banging. That's a perversion. If you shooting up
some random strangers. If the first day, if the first
day of your career, you dissed somebody, they never shot

(03:04:42):
your friend. You, my friend, are a fucking poser. I
don't give a fuck who you shot. That's like when
niggas would have probably they'd be like glass this nigga.
I don't give a fuck about none of that shit.

Speaker 11 (03:04:52):
No what.

Speaker 8 (03:04:57):
So it's like someone looking hm, not an excuse like
to absolve, but an excuse to act.

Speaker 3 (03:05:06):
Let's go through this ship before we get up out
of here one time. So shout out to Diamondbacks Photography
five dollars, thank you, my brother, Dear law enforcements, what
dear law enforcement watching this?

Speaker 5 (03:05:16):
I never seen glasses with a gun. He is just joking.

Speaker 3 (03:05:20):
Shout out to Diamondbacks Photography for the two dollars, my boy,
thank you. Lunch table barbecue at glasses pool joking that's
gonna happen. We're going to do a lunch table barbecue.
I just don't know if we're gonna do it in
California or Georgia.

Speaker 1 (03:05:33):
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:05:34):
Maybe y'all need to find a reason to come here.

Speaker 8 (03:05:36):
We'll have to do a.

Speaker 4 (03:05:41):
Like a poll where like for it's from an interactive
poll in whichever.

Speaker 8 (03:05:47):
Wins, that's where we go.

Speaker 3 (03:05:49):
Y'all said, y'all don't read Georgia or Georgia or California,
New York and New York. You have to do something
different in New.

Speaker 1 (03:05:56):
York doing the playground crazy shut out.

Speaker 3 (03:06:04):
To Tower Love Foundation, thank you for the five dollars
support our future resolution for music and language change or
save our future? Now I like that and change or
stop the B word? Oh you want to get rid
of bench in hip hop? I'm not mad at that.

Speaker 1 (03:06:18):
Do your thing?

Speaker 3 (03:06:18):
Brother, What what are you gonna call the bitches that
be bitches? Though key should be. This convo was really dope.
Thank you for the five dollars. Keys love you. This
conbo is really dope. I hope you all have a
fantastic weekend.

Speaker 4 (03:06:33):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:06:33):
We showed man, we gave y'all. Probably one of our
greatest streams. Sherry, crazy ass coming ruined my life all
the time with her craziness. Shout out to Amber Walls,
thank you for the twenty dollars. Amber, love you to death.
We've been here a long time. Here's a little sum
on some more food for sure. We gotta give Trapp.
We gotta give trap it. Don't be a ton of money.
Were gonna have to kid trashing with this money. Shout

(03:06:54):
out to Sheriff, Thank you for the twenty dollars Sherry,
you gave us Hell. I'll need it all tilandod to
deal with all these headaches you gave me. Shout out
to Queen Lady Act thank you for the five dollars.
Great show team. I need this for ibuprofen.

Speaker 1 (03:07:10):
I need to.

Speaker 5 (03:07:12):
I just need so much tiling now because y'all stressing me.

Speaker 3 (03:07:15):
Out like black people stress me out, man, and then
d want us to do the topic on spaces.

Speaker 5 (03:07:23):
I am stressed out.

Speaker 1 (03:07:25):
I'll be so.

Speaker 3 (03:07:27):
Y'all don't understand. I think Trap get it. Trap understands
how vested I be in these conversations. This is not
me making content like I really be digging deep and
I be up to five in the morning reading and
going through this and calling people calling Battle Kettle, doctor
Dre or Warren g or DJ Quick trying.

Speaker 1 (03:07:49):
To get down. I don't get that time fire ship.

Speaker 3 (03:07:52):
I'm just saying, even in this, I go call baby
gangster from saying Tanna, I go call the oldest crips
and the oldest bloods I know, and I call him
and I'll be.

Speaker 1 (03:08:00):
Like and they'd be like you right, git.

Speaker 3 (03:08:01):
I'm like, man, I could dissimilate this information amongst my
whole tribe. And then I start and well, glasses, you know,
crips is toxic. It's just poison, black on black crime,
Like what the fuck? Like I gotta every time they
say that, I have to rewind it all the way

(03:08:23):
back to the beginning to deal with something like black
on black crime, like that shit drives me crazy. I
love D one two share. It's not that I'm rooting
for D one. I support D one. I love I
don't care even if I think he's wrong. I'm not
going to publicly ever slight that brother because his heart
is soul and spirit is in the right place.

Speaker 1 (03:08:44):
So that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (03:08:46):
I just want him to have nuance when dealing with
poor black people.

Speaker 1 (03:08:50):
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 5 (03:08:52):
We need it. Poor black people deserve it.

Speaker 3 (03:08:55):
I want him to have it, and I'm gonna make
sure I always try my best that we live and
we speaking context when it comes to them. Everybody else
I will a little, but especially poor black people. And
that's the thing that hip hop is all about. I'm
not talking about the couple rich ones that come in.
I'm talking about the poor black people. That's what I'm
talking about. So I'm going to always We're gonna stop

(03:09:17):
the crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (03:09:19):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (03:09:20):
And all of that, Nick is funny you saying that.
Shout out to Nick. I blamed Glasses for the last
ten years of garbage hip hop and curves State or
in at least until Dot Definitely Glasses fought mainStreet rapped me.

Speaker 1 (03:09:34):
Okay, out to g Nick. That was my point.

Speaker 3 (03:09:36):
I was telling Kendrick back in twenty twelve eleven. I'm like, hey, bro,
that dude is different. I didn't know because I didn't know.
I didn't know about hip hop enough to talk about it.

Speaker 5 (03:09:51):
It's over, bro, Thank y'all for being here.

Speaker 3 (03:09:54):
But look, he got it done and cleaned it up anyway,
so it came through it. If it took if it
took me twelve or thirteen years to motivate Dot, or
if it took Dot twelve thirteen years to figure out
he needed to go ahead and reset the button for
hipopping and destroy the influence that mainstream was starting to
push its way in. Y'all got it now? I want

(03:10:16):
you to do the right thing with it. That don't
mean saying black on black crime. Thank y'all for coming.
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(03:10:38):
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