July 22, 2025 • 62 mins
In this episode of No Ceilings, the crew engages in an honest conversation about navigating purpose, identity, and community through the lens of culture and current events. They reflect on the realities of launching a podcast without a clear roadmap, exploring how intention evolves with time. The discussion touches on the impact of social media on perception, the disillusionment that can come with age, and the shifting landscape of California’s economy—from real estate to health policy. Centering the Black American experience, they examine the role of government in community well-being and offer grounded strategies for building stronger, more sustainable neighborhoods.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Sealer's Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
loaw glasses Malone. The awkward thing is when you don't
really have much to start the show with, yes, or
you walk into the show and like, you don't have
(00:27):
a preconceived idea, like I watch a lot of podcasts,
why don't I'm telling a lie.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let me start with that. I do not watch a
lot of podcasts.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I rarely ever watch podcasts, like I may watch clips,
but I don't watch the whole podcasts. But it seems
like more people put vested interest in what's happening on
a week to talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, it's easy, that's cheap and easy cheap, but it's easy,
and I.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Think that's what we do with the stream. I think
that's what we do with the stream. The stream is Monday, Wednesday,
and Friday, you know, the lunch hour.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's like a periodical.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, But what I try to do with the podcast
is make something where it's deeper into the cave.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's not at the front door of the cave. It's
not at the opening.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Sure, so it's odd to start a pod and you
have no idea what you want to talk.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
About or what's deep in the cave. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We'll just have to like walk and talk like an
awkward first date until we get deep enough in the
cave to find something.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh man, how something happens?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No sellings podcast gl I got my brother Peter Boss.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
We brought Joey west Side. I gotta keep Joey Westside
on his toes.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Joey is getting better at discussing and talking a lot
more and more. Joey be so frustrated with all of
the content that's online, especially when it comes to Los
Angeles street urban culture. I mean curious, and it's funny
because he goes down this rabbit hole of LA street
(02:15):
urban culture. But the bullshit part of it, it don't
even be cultural cause it don't be like nobody that
contribute to no level of art. You know, hip hop
is street urban culture, you know, initially based out of
New York. So it's that's why they say the elements
is MC and DJing, dancing, graffiti. Even the knowledge is
those are like artistic things. And then there's people right
(02:40):
now that's creating content. Everything they do is just.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Street. There's no culture.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
It's like eating a spoonful of salt. Yeah, you know,
like I would like to think of hip hop as
soul food, right, like like macaroni and cheese, like greens,
like yams. You know, it's seasoned to the heavens, but
it's still some level of nourishment under all of that seasoning. Yeah,
these niggas is like just taking a spoonful of salt,
(03:10):
just eating it, and that's what they sell them.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And most candies. When you were a kid, it was
like a white piece of sugar and you dipped it
in more flavored sugar.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, that's how it is.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
They just said, throw the stick out.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
In my rabbit hole.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
For some reason, on ig has been just sellouts like sellouts.
Sellouts is like people who their whole content pieces talking shit.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
About black people. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Like, and don't get me wrong, Pete, I get it.
A lot of people that are not black, like black people,
have taken advantage of the circumstances or at least of
the trauma that they've been through, which is ridiculous, right
because really, you supposed to get balanced and treated correct,
like I always tell you, supposed to get reparations. You're
supposed to repair that that setback and me and you
(04:05):
could move forward, amig. But its people like the newest
thing is the Carnival Cruise ship, right and you, I.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Don't know what this is even about. But cruises. I
got in trouble Cauz like six months ago. I just
put on an Instagram story cruises are ghetto and people.
I was on a cruise last month and I'm like, mm.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It's it's about It's about them niggas. And then bluetooth speakers.
It's it's it's definitely about the niggas. Bro they tied
to niggas. Uh partier sleep they got bluetooth speakers at
the jacuzzis while everybody's sleeping.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's just like like just a lot of common content
on social media about it. Or was there like a
thing where like Carnival like stopped at an island and
like I said, you guys have to get off the
fucking boat.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
So no, I don't think it was that extreme.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So Carnival Cruise, they didn't put it out, but it
came out from them. Carnival Cruise hasn't really said much
about it. They've kind of watered They've kind of like,
look y'all doing a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We didn't say all that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
We're trying to keep a level of whatever on our ship.
But they said some of the cruises won't be playing
hip hop. They said some of the cruises, you know,
you can't. You can't bring fans on and do the steps,
you know, the boots on the ground. They talked about
kids under eighteen not being able to run loose at
(05:38):
one or two, and I didn't think that was that bag.
They said they were back up on little hip hop,
and I'm not mad. I don't know if it should
be all hip hop on the damn cruise, Like if
it was a cruise that had all hip hop, it
should be a hip hop cruise.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I would like a.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Cruises, you know, just find it there. Seems like every
other damn ship's a thematic cruise. Just find the cruise
themed for you.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
But the point is, so people started talking shit and
then they started over selling exactly what's happening right, like, oh,
these cruises are so cramming, like bro y'all so dramatic,
like you'll see one and you know what, this is
kind of what fuck Instagram up? What fucks humans up
(06:24):
with Instagram? Instagram will have you believe in what you
see is real life all the time, Yes, sir, Yes, right,
and it's getting worse and worse. Like I was in
the group chat, so everybody know, I got this group
chat with pun ad problem in the Homie Ace Boy Manny.
(06:45):
They were showing a video today of some asshole that
ran their card.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Through a bunch of people, fucking people up, maybe even
some people died.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Was that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, they snatched the dude out and whooped to his
ass and shotting.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, it's something that's not funny, but that's funny, but
that's that's extreme, like because they felt they automatically assumed
he drink, drinking and drive.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The way it was described on the thing that I saw,
it was like somebody It made it seem almost kind
of like it was a hit or something.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I'm not sure. Maybe it's two different things, but the
one I saw one.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
There's no way it happened twice.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, oh, it happens, for sure. It happens more than
twice every day in the same night, every day, every day.
It's America. America got four hundred people yet as much
as in East Hollywood. Yes, yes, I believe that people
crash into plow for some funs.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I believe that's happening way more. But but that's not
the point. I don't want to get caught there. That
wasn't the point that okay, and they snatched the person out,
whooped his ass whatever, shotting whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Pun is saying.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Man, you know, it's way worse now than we ever
went out. And I was thinking about the ship we
used to do. We used to go out, and I
noticed when you get old, all you start doing is
being cynical of shit, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And it's like for him to say that, and I'm thinking, like, nigga,
all the bullshit that used to happen, and really, it
wasn't that much shit happening. What is it about getting
old and cynical? Especially with this damn phone. This phone
will have you thinking you see some shit. You'll be
looking at your phone. You yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
The cruises, man, the nigga's on their They just danced
on Nigga. That ain't on all the damn cruise. That
song is very select few of them cruise.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I went on a carnival cruise, bro, and it ain't
that bad.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
We have their boots on the ground.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I don't know if that song was out at the
time when I went. But uh, it probably had one
of them moments.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
But where did what city? Did your cruise leave out?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Him? Long Beach to Ensinnata, the Long Beach to Sonato?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Now look this port, Huh, you gotta leave out of
this port because you hicked people up from both ports
doing uber shit. Yeah, this port, that's a whole different party.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Right, But if your algorithm, right, is all these type
of things, then that becomes your.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
World for sure. They prioritize that.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
So if you, if you're watching you, I would.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Think women were in shape. If it's if I, if
I believe.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
The time, you go, now you go, now you go.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
So if that's your argue and that's your life and
you seeing all these it's like watching the news, like
the news always got something just something trying, you know,
just it's tragedy. So yo, if your algorithm is all
these things, they look like, man, this is what the
world is. The world is messed up, and it's like, bro,
there's a you can switch your algorithm and you don't
see none of that.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Like my wife don't see a lot of shit.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Sure she I didn't see that I didn't know that
because she on the whole nother side of the world.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
All these different rabbit.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Holes, and then you go down a rabbit hole and
it becomes like, oh man, it's just all bad.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It's like bro now.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
And that's my point, Like I don't think I'm getting
old like the Homies is because I don't look and
think nothing is really different, you know what I mean.
I don't be like, oh man, it's different now the
way and I'm like, no, it's not like that.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
People spend so much time trying to convince me things
are different.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I remember ten years ago people was telling me about
hip hopping was you know, still was telling me, oh man,
you know you're getting older.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm like, check this out.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
You either got it that you don't got it, like
the Clips album, right, and Malice said the same thing.
You either got it that you don't got it. Age
was never a hindrance. That was something people made up
in their mind and they started to tell.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Other people that.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
There you go, people.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Let that become the truth. And it's just like with
these carnival cruises. Don't get me wrong. If you go
on the cruise that's a weekend, you probably gonna get
a lot of people scared of being on a cruise,
and those people may be more festive and more partying,
because if you're on a cruise for seven eight days,
you not even hanging out doing all that all the time.
Like that's a lot of work. Lord knows, a fourteen
day cruise if your goal was to get away from
(11:24):
let's say, for lack of terms, black people, just go
on the cruise.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's fourteen days.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
One thing you could bet niggas ain't doing is being
on no crew for no fourteen fucking days.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Anyone else they're not doing. They're not going during the week.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
So I went during the week, and I think my
last day may have been like a Friday, right or Saturday,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
But people are going to cruises like on the week,
the weekend off. Yeah, Like I'm figuring we got a
couple of days are.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
We going on a cruise's finish grabbing them girls and
wanna take this little girl on the boat and knocker down.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
For yeah, and honestly, man vacation in his tiring Yeah,
I hate it, Like it ain't like when I went
to Mexico for like seven days. I'm like Wednesday hit.
I'm like, I want to go home.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
You feel me. I'm over it.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's the number one issue. Like every girl in the
world wants to ask me, where do you want to
travel to?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Don't know?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I want to go nowhere? Never like aside from the
fact it's the biggest pain in the ass of all
time for what it's worth it cost him. If I
wouldn't want to go for fucking free, you want me
to pay thousands dollars. No, not happening.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
You're gonna eat and sleep.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh, sip my pool off cocktails.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh that's really I was.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I was drinking liquor at six am in the pool.
I love swimming pool, so I'm fit to go. It's
six am, I'm in the pool like that. Fuck you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's it right, But I just don't get what is
it about growing up that makes people more cynical.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I think when you're older you could there are two
things you start to see, what like the mistakes you know,
and the ramifications, because when you're doing it, there's no
ramification recons have afterwards. And also it's like you start
to look at it as this, you know, this is shit.
(13:29):
I'm gonna have to in kind pay for some way
or another.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
You know, like.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Guys go out party and get drunk and plow through
three cars and kill three people, and all State has
to write a ten million dollar check. Fuck my car
insurance is going to go up now because this fucking
idiot or whatever the hell it is.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You know, even when I talk to homies about gang
banging Pete, it'd be like, man, you know, back in
the day, you know, and usual to be snitching a snitch,
would you know there'd be consequences.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Back in the day, people would snitch and they would
move off to Apple Valley, you know what I mean.
That would be like the last honorable thing they would do.
Nobody had to kick their ass. They knew not to
show their face. It's not like today. It's not like
today is different. Like Gunna is not hanging out in nobodyhood.
(14:25):
He not hanging out with friends and shit. He is
a businessman. So it's not like it would be different.
Time is not changing the way people think it is,
you know what I mean. I think this whole the
way things used to be is a bit overstated.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It's actually kind.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Of It's really easy to say. And then you got
people studying niggas who hate the streets. They getting all
the information from people who hate the streets, so they
telling them what the streets is. The dudes who don't
even be in the streets, and they're getting money off
hating the streets on the Internet, and they get all
the information from them. People just be peak shit so
(15:04):
they can add something to say too. That's another thing.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, And there's the controversy sales component. If you're inflammatory,
people are gonna repost you or comment on your shit.
Ten million ten million fuck you's is worth more than
zero fuck yous or one I love you?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And in the digital world, what's the biggest fear for you? Peak?
Getting older?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Getting older, having to do this shit for another fifty
fucking years, not the podcast by Daily.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Life, Living Living.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, yeah, forty more years of this Christ.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
What's the biggest what's the biggest feeling for you getting older?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
West Side and honestly, man, losing people you love that
shit Sometimes I think about that. That shit be scary.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Do you have a goal out live niggas? Like my
goal is to outlive niggas.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I don't know if I ever looked at it as
a goal, but I definitely find myself at the age
and that like I'm convinced like I'm getting old, Like
I'm getting older. You feel me. I feel it. I
see it like you say, people around you, you know,
people getting sick. Shit, I get sick. You know when
I that car accident that I was just in, That
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shit kind of tricked me out.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
You feel me because it was like I had no control.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
So I'm like, like, damn man, like shit real.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
And I find myself sometimes trying to move in a
way where at all, at all, at all costs, I'm straight.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I was telling Spade Spade from and Holmie Boy from
Tray Tray and Denver. Like we at that age to
where now getting shot is not the only way to die,
you know what I mean, Like in your twenties where
we come from, Pete, that's how you die.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You get shot. Yeah, rarely, you might get in the
crash and then you usually live through that. But we
at the age.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Now where they could just have hot blood plus and
have a heart attack. You just getting to that age
where multiple shit feel like it take you out.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Think about shit like that too, you know what I
mean immediately you'd be like, damn nigga, way hold up,
you feel me?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But I ain't gonna lie to you the fear that
I have about getting older. I'm more excited about the
challenges of it all. Like I'm more excited about mastering me.
Like I find myself being like my dad a lot
of times where I don't got time now to kiss
your ass. I'm gonna tell you what I think, Like,
I'm not finna if we're not friends behind it, that's
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cool too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
But huh, I admire that about elders.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, I'm just to that place now where I'm like, look, man,
this is what it is. This is why I'm at
with it. This is why I'm at with it. But
I just noticed that that was happening, and like so
just like when I fall down those rabbit holes, like
I could walk up and be like, man, niggas is
selling out every day. I still understand that this is
this small, niche group of weird ass content creators that's
(18:31):
trying to get the the the likes from people who
really just don't like black people, like and I'm talking
about it's bad.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I saw a little black girl.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And she was like, you know something something black culture,
And I kept being like, I've been asking for a while, Pete,
what the fuck is black culture? Like, asshole? Some asshole
came and said, you know a street shootings. I'm like, man,
I component it was shooting motherfuckers in the streets in
the seventeen nineteen, seventeen, nineteen twenty in La, the white
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fences and the maut of Vias was shooting each other
in the thirties and forties. That was before Brothers even
had a cripple a blood game. So I just can't
identify as black culture. Like I get the thought of it.
I think what we call soul food is more American
slave culture. But it is a lot of black people
that did not grow up eating soul food. I mean,
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it's not necessarily And the more I think about it,
even down these rabbit holes. And here's another thing about
growing up again, the same thing. Why I'm just telling
people what I think it's like. If you are, are
you a proud American?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Peak?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I guess in the way you're asking, sure, I mean enough,
I've never individual.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I never in my life heard you call yourself a
proud white American, Like, I'm watching brothers get to a
place where I think they're trying to adjust their mind
and they're trying to come to times with circumstances in
this country and they're trying to find some level of
pride and a connection to it, which is weird to
me because I do not connect to the country. I
(20:19):
connect to people, right, I connect to Peter. I am
not connecting to the idea.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So even is the word we, everyone's they to me,
like like white people are they?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
There's me and there's everyone else in facts, right, But
I've said people say that to me, they'd be like, oh, Glass,
you know, They'll say, like, I'm a proud black American.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I'm like, well, if you're a proud black American, why
put black in it? That's what I don't get.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I think I would be more interested in inquiring why
put American in it? In a lot of the census
only only in the sense that it's like the American
experience of a person who is black, But it's I
would think if you were if you were like legitimately
we're saying that to somebody of a certain worldview, or
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why are you you know, cars of a black American
or whatever. It's probably more the black part than the
American part, in which that they take pride, at least
in a lot of the contexts.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, but those two are conflating ideas being black an American,
right because historically how America has been towards black people.
That's why I don't say I'm a black American unless
I'm speaking legally in another country, and then I'll just
say I'm American. I wouldn't tell they could obviously see
my black ass, so I don't need to say I'm
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black American. So even when I'm in a country, it
really wouldn't make no sense to me to reference yourself
as a proud black American. To even call yourself a
black American and then have an American flag kind of
don't make no sense. Why not just be American?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Well, I don't think people be doing. They not as
studied as you.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Even if what you're saying, that concept right is pretty
much simple and obvious, right, Well, most people ain't really
looking at it that deep.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Basal, like I'm black and I'm Americans, so I'm proud black.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Then then it turned into semantics, and then it'll just
be one of them conversations where you'd be like, why
the fuck am I even talking to this person at
this point?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, I just I think if you're going to go
go you know what I'm saying, Like, what's this half go?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Like?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
If you really going to get to that place right,
if you're going to get to that place right where
you're like, I'm taking on the identity of this country.
I'm not tripping about what happened to my ancestors. I'm
not tripping off what this country has systemically did to
people that look like me for years. I'm gonna find pride.
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The first thing you should shed is the concept of
being black to me, you know what I mean, because
being black is more of a question mark. It's more
of an x like you're not quite sure of what
you are. Because you'll never hear a Nigerian person have
to reference themselves as black. They are Nigerian, they whatever,
try them.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
One thing they don't got to do is tell you
that they are black.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
They are certainly you know this, so even the concept
of it doesn't make sense. And and that's what I'm
starting to get as I get older, bro. Whereas like
I don't got time Joey for silly shit. All the
silly shit, bro is driving me crazy because it'd be like,
shut the fuck up the fuck.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Call you mean and start saying like, man, you always
got a mean and you always got.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
White about that ship.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm like, God, if you are a native American, stop
saying you're black.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Man, Why can't be black?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
You can't be at all, brother, You can't if you
are if you're convincing, if you're trying to vinced me
that your family did not come from no slave ship,
which is possible because there were people here that looked
like us Joey way.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Before the slaveship.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yes, they came over before cool and then the Great
Migration seventy thousand years ago people that migrated away over
here even though they look different because they didne came
a long way walking and generation on top of generation
they were here. But what are you holding on to
by being black? Like, why are you trying to connect
with motherfucker? It's weird because they try to connect with
motherfuckers that they ain't trying to connect with. And this
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is the problem with getting older. The problem with getting
older is you just have less patience for this, for
the just silly.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Shit no, you do you do?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
God, I don't have no patience for it. And most
of the time I just don't say shit.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
It's better, that's the that's the easiest thing to do, man,
because saying something sometimes is come, yeah, come with a
lot of other shit. That's like, damn, man, I why
why did I even say anything? The person ain't pretty
roight each that damn words out. It's rare when someone
trying to have a genuine conversation about something about those things,
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when y'all really trained information.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
You know what I'm saying. I found myself.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Most of the time people try to prove that they
know something that they may not have ever read about.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
They just regurgitating some shit.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
They they regurgitating hearsay, even saying it with confidence.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Even then they don't think about it. Even then they
don't think about what they heard. My problem is it
becomes they hear something, write or down, that's it. They
don't even like when Pete tell me something like, I'll
think about it for time. I think about it, like Pete,
me and Pete was talking about Like Pete is more
to me of a historian than me, where he understands
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how human beings did things like we've talked about how
humans migrated no different than birds flying different places were
food at or buffalo's went to certain places where ward
elephants migrate the water during times of years, like humans
kind of try to notch theyselfs into the ground all
the time, right, your goal is to kind of notch
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yourself into the ground, like right into this house.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You want to live right here for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
When everything about nature says most things move they move for,
you know, opportunity, whether it's opportunity to eat, opportunity to
drink water, opportunity to hunt. Whatever other mammals and birds
and shit move for. They move for opportunity. But we
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don't humans, especially black folk, you know. And I get
we've been through a lot, so I ain't want to
pick on it. I'm just saying I was telling Pete
this same thing about Detroit, and I noticed I told
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'm like, yo, we could.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Really we'd have to be visionaries about what's happening could
happen in Detroit, but we want to be there first.
We should really be trying to get in there, because
that's how like people favorite buzzwords generational wealth, you need
to be ahead of a curve for that to kind
of happen nine times out of teen.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Is that fair peak to say, yeah, I got it?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
A whole lot you know of thoughts on that. Yeah,
And I I'm not so sure historically that and it's
not that long of a history if you were to
talk like post emancipation. But Black people move around a lot.
I feel like it's like our generation of people decided
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we're too good to move around. There's a lot of
other previous generations were more than willing to move around
and around it. Yeah, if you want to move around,
I'm not gonna say no. However, people are stat every
Black America say are stagnant.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
They're dynamic. They're They're probably less so than you know,
maybe other groups. But the twentieth century they probably moved
the most. They probably moved the most in the twentieth
century of all groups.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Sure, So.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I don't know fly in other places that. Yeah, I
mean you look at the t Show.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Those people weren't all in Detroit in eighteen ninety at.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
All, and they show got the fuck up out of
there too.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
They got in and they got out.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
To me, to me, I want to be wherever white
people l ain't at first no more, because when white
people come, their money comes. That's that's starting to become
my thing. I don't really care about money enough outside
of the tool to handle my business, but I really
feel like the goal is to be like I noticed,
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that's been the.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Story of my life.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
My mom right when she first bought her house when
I was five four years old, she bought her house
in Compton in the Riskling farms.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right. My dad and my mom broke up when I
was about seven six or seven. My dad bought his.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
House and watch you could buy property in those neighborhoods.
My mom house was probably one hundred and ten thousand
back then, which was really expensive. My dad house was
about eighty thousand. But even growing up in the nineties
and the late nineties, you can get a property one
hundred and seventeenth Street and watch for like seventy eighty thousand.
Still that same property is four hundred and some thousand,
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fine some thousand dollars. And I'm like everywhere I've been
when other people come in, like nothing happened in Compton
to me that I saw that many people decide to
come in but when they.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Came in, everything went up. It could be the fact
that I've been saying for a while. I think, honestly,
the people migrating here from Mexico. You know, whether it's
you know, against.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
The rules or with the rules, is what's driving house
properties up in California. I do think it's more money.
People come in for more money coming into California from
around the world, and money's around.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
The way California. Huh, the money's leaving California. There's more
money leaving California than come in.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Okay, So then what's driving the property Pete? And why
is Joey trying to buy house and he's competing with
seven fucking people to buy a house.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
A few things happened. There's virtually no building happening in California,
so as so that's pretty true. It just gets worse
and worse and worse. But also interest rates moved up,
so now you can't sell. So like, if you had
a five hundred thousand dollars house out of two point eight,
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you're not going to sell that house and then go
move somewhere else and carry a note at a six
point eight. You know you're affordability gets crushed. So inventories
are very very low. So it's reflective of a much
smaller manipulated marketplace and opposed to like the totality of
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the marketplace.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So it's not as many houses for sales.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
It looks like absolutely and like they're like yeah, and
prices are coming down some, but it's a very constrained inventory.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Mm hm.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So you get these weird bidding wars.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So why are you leaving?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Why are I mean.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Cost people say it's cheap everywhere else.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So I mean Elon Musk pulled multiple companies out of California.
He could afford it, just the regulatory environment, the taxes.
All the rest of people are like, screw it, I'm out.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I hear people saying I retired here, I'm gonna retire
somewhere else. When I retire, I'm going.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
To the South. I'm going you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, I think that there's like if you step back
and look at the broader mark, you can kind of
determine usually like if you were to get like say,
beat white money to the punch at a certain spot,
I narrowly missed getting into places just ahead of big
pops like twenty twenty one Memphis really prices that's up
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a lot. Now, Saint Louis up a lot, now has
moved a lot. And you can see it in like
the cap rate of listings for like say multifamilies. If
you see shit, it's like fourteen fifteen percent cap rate,
that's really high. That means that the price of the
property is really really low. So you find an area
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where you see a lot of double digital cap rates
in one general couple zip codes or one city or
one metro. You get in there unless it's a really
like weird scenario or a very like rural environment. But
you get to a big chunk of population where those
numbers start to skew and you can go, Okay, equilibrium's here.
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It should be at eight percent. This is at twelve percent.
I means the price is below equilibrium. People will go
in and buy that opportunity or just to pull it
back up to zero because it's in the negatives.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So if the inventory is lowland Catalifornia and it's uber competitive,
then how does California fall apart?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Because like fall apart? In what sense I was.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
To project it? What's to project it from?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
From? From things you've been studying what happens to California.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Moving forward. There there's budgetary problems now that shows up.
It's really badly run.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
So even like a.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Dollar in California, California schools, like California's public schools are
really bad. There's some districts that do really, really, really
really well, but.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
They're usually white people in the money yet sure, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
But by and large it's like in the bottom five
of states, which is absurd. So they just they pump
more money into stuff and they just steal the money.
I'm perfectly blunt. They don't put it to work. I mean,
the biggest scam in California is we need to give
more money to the schools for the kids. They're just
giving it to the administrators and the pensions.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
They just take the money.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So what happens to California Then if it's a bad
business idea, what happens to this business?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
If it continues in the trajectory there's on, then you
start to see real issues with state municipal bonds like
Chicago had that happened. Chicago's bad that runs the city.
They had a bond crisis, so you have a harder
time raising money, so you start just having to make
cuts and concessions, so your public services get reduced. You
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don't have the tax revenue, so you can't just rely
on that, so you have to go raise bond measures.
Your bond ratings go down, so it becomes harder to
do that, so you start running out of money, and
I don't know how that manifests. In a state like California.
You can start to see parts of Los Angeles annex
themselves out of Los Angeles. Like if Pacific Palisades, for example,
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didn't burn down and LA's shit issues starting getting worse
and worse and no horses, you coun see a place
like Pacific Palsies and annex itself right out of the city,
become its own city. You see like areas in the
l and Empire that are like have removed themselves from
the city of Riverside, like like Rubideaux or something like that,
or East Vale, like those styles places.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
They go from being neighborhoods into cities with mayors.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, so it could manifest in a lot of ways.
You just start to see businesses leaving jobs leave. One
interesting stat I saw since the pandemic, seventy percent of
jobs created in the state of California are below national
median income, not state median income. State median income historically
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in California is way higher than national median income. Competing
against the Arkansas and Oklahoma's of the world, it's below that.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I don't know if people's personal money is leaving as
much people business money is leaving.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Like people, it's both residences here, but they take corporation
somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, but that's what it's starting to feel like that happens,
But they also take their residence. They're legal residents somewhere else.
You can be like my parents, and I'm going to
spend seven months out of state in five months in state,
and I'm not gonna pay California state income tax at
thirteen eight point six percent or whatever it is. I'm
gonna pay Idaho state income taxes six point five and
California gets zero. They don't even get six point five.
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It just get zero.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Because you stay somewhere else for seven months. And how
it works.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, a famous picture. I thought, not that famous. I
liked the picture you that Portnoy guy.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he's arguing with Kanye.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah, he moves to Florida from New York. And you
know the old picture with Wilt Chamberlain of the number
one hundred, you know, black and white. He took a
similar picture holding up the number one hundred and eighty three.
That's one day more than fifty percent of your time
in the state of Florida. He didn't have New York taxes.
That's the magic number?
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Wow? So that's what white people do.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Yeah, it's like it's a dude I work with man
like he do a lot is business or like registered cars, oh,
like in Arizona and shit like here, he don't do
nothing in California.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I think U Haul's entire fleets got Arizona license places.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, like this is information they be having. They know
these things and they take advantage of it and they
do it. Most people don't know know this stuff. I
for show what you know where and they.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Just do it. Where's that? Where can I go? Do that?
Act down the street? Like okay, I'm on my way,
so place right?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
So what's the Michigan state taxis pete?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Oh, Michigan's not that tax friendly. It's not bad like California,
but I don't think it's that great. And I'm some
states have like like Washington has a little bit of
income tax, they don't have sales tax, I believe, or
Organ's like maybe one of the two. Oregon might have
no sales tax at Vegas has no state income tax
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state Nevada, so it depends. I mean, like you'll see
people who something that is like a really expensive car
with a really random license plate. Somebody deliberately bought that
car in that state to avoid sales tax on the car.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Right, Michigan has a flat individual income tax rate of
four point two five percent.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
That's pretty low.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
This rate applies to all residents, regardless of income level
or filing status. Michigan also has a flat corporate income
tax rate of six percent, So that means I can
go live in Michigan for one hundred and eighty three
days and then spend the rest of my time in
California and don't have to pay California.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Is it's kind of expensive, too real expensive? Yeah, California
state to hold on.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I think it's like it's tiered, but the top tier
I want to say it's thirteen six ish yep, something
around there in California, Florid, Florida. Y, I'm in Florida.
We got zero tax here.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh it's it's Oh, there's an additional one percent mental
health services tax on taxable income over one million, making
the top marginal rate effectively thirteen point three percent.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
More three Okay, there's that in California has high sales
tax too, And.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I know it's like in all the rest, like where
I'm at, it is like eleven percent.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah, that's high. That's fucking high.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
So there's not at all a giver day, is it?
Is it really to deal with the population?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
What they They just take the fucking money?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Me do all? They won't.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Their employees get paid a bunch. They're pensioned out the ass.
They can't even afford that. They can't even keep those
books clean. They just take the fucking money. They hire
tons of people. The unions get a percentage of all
the amount of money that that's the California circle drink.
You have government employees, they're part of a union. The
union gobbles up a percentage of all their money. They
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store the money. The more employees they get, the more
money they get. They take some of that money and
they go buy state senators, you know, like like we
buy French fries to make sure that and they pay
for commercial but a new proposition comes up or whatever
the hell to raise more money, to hire more people,
to raise more salaries, to raise more retirement benefits or
Christ knows what. And they get a percentage of all
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of that money and they just spend it on influence
to get more money, to spend more money, to cost
more money, to take more money to get more It's
this a circle.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
So he's got so got the own ecosystem and a ball.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
So then why aren't we selling shit to the state
of California? If they got the money to pay.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Get a contract, don't go get a road cones contract.
You ever noticed, like on a freeway when they're fixing
a pothole, there's seventeen hundred cones for five miles. I
found out from a congressman who was talking to me.
The thing that I went to in uh Vegas last year,
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I was the one before in Memphis. It goes different
cities each year. The special this is not this isn't bullshit.
A former congressman was at a at a cigar thing.
I'm sitting there talking to him. He called it the
highway industrial complex, like the military industrial complex. You get
guys they donate to campaigns, they own a warehouse full
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of cones. They get a contract to go set up
cones and they charge per cone. So the more cones
they set up, the more money they get.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
And for daily rates and got a cone their house.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
They say, what we're doing one lane for fifty yards
on the sixty East on Tuesday night from midnight to
four am. Okay, Well you have to rent the cones
for the whole day for eight months when you work
for ninety minutes a week and jerk off all the time,
and the Caltrans will get their money. The cone guy
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gets his money because he's blocked off that lane from
Pomona all the goddamn way to Marino Valley to work
on a pothole. And he made seventeen million dollars that
year renting out goddamn cones. Welcome to California.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Oh man, how do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
AVP, you gotta tell me, because listen, one thing I
know how to do is hustle. Like I just it
just hit me today, right, I had to replace the
battery in Mi Camaro right, told you.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
To get the authority energy grants for the electric cars.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
You know, we need to get on Squizy, we need
to get on Squeze. We need that those are on.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
The money's gone now, oh yeah, but there will be
new ones.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
So then so at this point, then the business in
California is not the people.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
The people.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
The business in California is California to state the Los
Angeless city.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, California is like one of those
eurotrash cities that is like a pseudo economy. Now there's
a handful. Like you take Silicon Valley out of California,
it collapses in the Cuba in a week.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
You have, like.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
That's the heart where most of the money comes from.
Like you, California's got like a four trillion dollar GDP.
I mean fuck half of that's like it's six addresses.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
So so Hollywood, So Hollywood is gone there.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
That's always been pinions of money. Hollywood as an industry
doesn't do like what Google does. Let alone, like Google
in video, Apple, all these companies are all up there.
So they pay for everything essentially, and you know, vaguely
exaggerating obviously, but like the normal man's economy in California
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has worked for the government.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Wow, so what all these people the goal is still
to work for the government.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
They're not paying your money unless you're you know who's
specialized surgeon, lawyer, tech whatever, real estate agent in the
right place to work for the government because they are
overpaying everybody, and they're over hiring and all the rest
of it.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
So okay, So in a state like this, that's the goal, right, Well,
what's the goal in a place like Michigan, like Detroit?
You got the people? Do you do at that point?
Is it the people you kind of doing business with,
because they obviously they Detroit, the city or Michigan don't
have the money that the state of California does. So
in Michigan, it would have to be the opposite, right,
it would have to be the people.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
They're in a tough spot because they kind of have
a little bit of neither. So they get federal backing stuff,
they do pull some money together. They've created some initiatives
to get some growth, and Detroit's done decently well, like
they've regenerated, see from where they started it, from where
they when it was at the very bottom. Yeah, so
you can find some of that I don't know if
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their economy can stand on its own two feet right
now though, So that you kind of just have to
be precise out there.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
You know, can't go out there and just flop your arms.
Not someone. Why are you going set your target and
then just lock in?
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, So what type of people should move to Michigan?
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Probably landlords if you have some money and you can buy,
you know, assets down there that are way below value.
Like if you were like a con tractor yourself, Like
if you could go get a crew together and redo
a small building or a for plex or something like
that in Detroit, you could buy something for nothing, have
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your team redo it, either sell it or rent it
out or whatever you know, and make a killing.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
M versus California. Okay, how about this? What about Texas?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Texas is in the middle, right because Texas the state
don't have as much money as the state of California,
even though they have the land mass without the same population.
The population of Texas is less than the population in California,
but it's more land masks. But it's probably in the
middle of what Michigan is and what California is.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
So a little bit about Michigan is like in the
middle of California. And you know, I'm sorry, Texas is
in the middle of California and Michigan. No, sorry, damn it.
Michigan's in the middle California.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Texas is all people. Then, yeah, it's all private help
is in human in the people.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Because even even Texas, like they have no state income tax,
they run a pretty tight ship. Like Florida has a various.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Limited people is keeping their money. So the people have
their money. They're not paying a ton of money for
the property they you know, they're not spending a bunch
of money with taxes. So Texas and state is doing decent,
but the people are doing well versus California. The state
of California is doing well, but the people are doing regular.
And then a place like Michigan is in the middle.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Where huh, no one's quite so much doing well.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, everybody's just making do Yeah. So a place like
Texas is the type of place you go to open
up a business for people. Yeah, in California, the type
of place where you create a business to sell to
the state, all because the state taking all everybody money exactly,
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So you got.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
To you gotta figure out a way to.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
You know, California, Los Angeles need you for something.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yeah, but you got it's it's it's about relationships, quote unquote.
So you've got to find a way to get those
grants to get and get those bids, you know, like
a non compete bid is like the dream, you know,
like Caltrans is a is a private company. They have
a virtual monopoly on roadwork. I thought they were a
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government agency. I didn't know they were a company until
five six years ago.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
See, this type of stuff is interesting. Now we get
in somewhere.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, go go find some sort of initiative to I
mean there's a lot of beat to ship rows in
the city of Compton. Be like, hey, look, you're causing
the people of Compton. You know, on average like six
hundred dollars per year more per driver on suspension and
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tires or whatever else.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
So what we're saying is we could start a business,
a black owned business and that because I know California
loves to pay on ship like black people, you know,
ship that makes them look good. Sure, and create a
company that's that specializes in the ghetto of fixing the road.
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And then you charge the city and the state for
fixing the roads because they never get to it. They
have the money, Compton even has the money.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
LA, the city of fucking Los Angeles, which has more
money than they can count, and that's what you pay
your car registration for. LA had to pass a prop
and it's an issue, a sales tax add on it
to fix potholes, even though that's like in their.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Budget already.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, it's already supposed to be done and it's still
not fixed.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
No, they don't get shipped.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Oh how do we guilt them into funding our business
to fix it?
Speaker 3 (50:07):
Just create some popular demand and say I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Gonna demand there. Everybody shit fucked up, but.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
People need to they need to hear it.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
They've all been talking about they've all been talking about
how fucked up it is.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
How do we get in front?
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Okay, that's how community on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Don't organize an event at you know, by the Compton
Courthouse in the city Hall, there's that big courtyardy kind
of area thing. Go organize a big event saying we
want to give glasses, asphalt LLC grants or you don't
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even do that to say we want to fix. Have
all them out there saying we fix our roads, fix
our roads. What do we want to fix now? What
do you want to fix our roads? And have them
out there? And then you just go in and say, boy,
you saw all those people yesterday. You know it's funny.
I gotta aligne for an asphalt distributor. Why don't you
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guys give me a grapt for next year of those potholes.
You don't have to worry all those people anymore.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
So that's how you do that.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
You can't just complain about it. You gotta really go
out there as a connective.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
I canze I can organize five hundred to one thousand
people coming out there for that.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Like people is mad about they fucking like.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I was there last month and I'm like, bro, I
couldn't drive my lowrider down Wilmington.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
Now, yeah, it's disrespectful. How bad she is.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
There's a place, God bless them. This is how bad.
Like I've been there twenty times from all my driving
all those shitty rental cars Normandy and Fountain twenty four
hour tip place in East Hollywood. I was there weekly
getting tires replaced, to the point where they do so
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much midnight business. A taco guy shows up at three
am on Frids and Saturdays.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
There used to be twenty four hours, a couple of
those type places like that. So California is the type
of place you build a business to charge a system.
Texas is the place you build a business to charge
the people in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
You just got to have your vision before you get there.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
You gotta figure Yeah, you gotta figure out which one
you can do. But you just got to like aim
small and this small kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
Yeah, you gotta study it. Scene and they execute for sure.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
So Florida falls closer to Texas very much. So, so
you just need a business for people and you'll to
make out fine.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
California is closer to New York.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Very Yeah, where if you could solve the systems problems,
which is crazy because they genuinely just don't want to
solve their problems.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
So then you have those out of business.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
Huh, put the cells out of business.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
So how do we trigger? Okay, I launched glasses as
fault just to fix the potholes and compton.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, it's just starting all those small to seven to
ten quarter If you try to throw your way around
La City Hall, it's too big, too big, too dispersed.
Hit your compton, your Lynnwood's your cut of Heez or
South Gates, all that kind of shit, those little towns, Bell,
Bell Gardens.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
But how do we force them to give me the
money beside making a backdoor deal. Yeah, well, because it's
a reason they not fixing the damn potholes.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Sure they don't a lot of those seas they don't
have any freaking money. So, like, what you would have
to do is you have to play both sides of it.
The next time that there's a lot cool election or
something where people are voting, you have to start a proposition,
get people to sign the proposition, get enough signatures to
get the prop on the ballot for the city. Would
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be it a bond measure or however that works, funding
for whatever, how the different missions positive rules, say we
want a million dollars over the next two years to
potholes because the roads are destroyed and you won't fix them.
And I got all these things, and people will vote
for him. They vote yes for it. Since you put
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the prop together, you're you know you need to be
as you're doing that, dealing with the city council people
saying you aren't doing this. I'm doing it and I
and we're going to have another prop another, or another
or another until we have a prop that says you
guys are getting impeached from the city council, like some
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Newport Beach has a weird city council thing with the
like it's like always the same people to just keep
rotating positions throughout the city council. Somebody got in charge
of the mayor job, like however many years ago and
just blew the budget wide open. Well, that didn't sit
well with the people who weren't don't like that shit.
They nixed like the whole fucking city council. They did
(55:18):
like a special election thing and they just ran them
all right the fuck out. So if you create push,
you know, at the end of the day is people
just want votes. So you can either the common thing,
particularly for California politics, say you're gonna get you don't
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have to do it, just say you're gonna give people
free stuff, or you're in the process of giving them
free shit and buy their votes, or you can grassroots
it and threaten to take their votes from them unless
blank happens.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Okay, but before I get that far, how do I
do something as simple as go fix make the city
of Compton because they have to have the money.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
They touched the ship out of the people. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
They take it off. I don't know what what Compton's
budget looks like.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
See if I can pull this up, how do we
make one t in?
Speaker 5 (56:21):
They just it's a some in consider it so were
it ain't my problem. I don't live in.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
I don't want to believe.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Look, I know that's the coinsistential thought of white people,
but I do not want to believe.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
The system is that raggedy. It could be true.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
Obviously it is, yeah, because I'm saying like it's it's
like it should be a simple fix.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
But that's why we should one ten. That's how we
could launch the album A Man.
Speaker 5 (56:50):
See and get these piles fixed. We want to drive
on them.
Speaker 4 (56:53):
We want to drive on the streets, and we pay
a lot, and then the cars we try to drive
cost money.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
Here's a hard from twenty nineteen. City of Compton's still
facing drastic budget shortfall. City of Compton for the twenty
twenty fiscal years thirty four million dollars short of their budget.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Can we can we? Okay?
Speaker 5 (57:13):
Could that be true?
Speaker 3 (57:14):
And I know that they have to have problems with
their budget. That's why there's no City of Compton PD ultimately,
and why they have County Fire Department all the other
shit because they it's cheaper for them to intermingle the
money and get built.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
City like Compton be that broke. Is it just a
mismanagement of funds because they taxing the shit out of people?
Speaker 3 (57:37):
It is a lot.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Let me wrong. I've seen them make moves.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
They took the factories away, right, they made that Rancho
Dominguez right, They drew certain lines purposely bad.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
That doesn't help. And I'll guarantee you the city didn't
kick the factories out. The factories, sure they might. They
took they ball and went on, Yeah, we're gonna make
this money. Why needna let you niggas get this money?
We gonna put it over here to where nobody could
use it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
See that's what I'm saying. How do we make this
the damn thing? How do I This is why I'm
asking because this is the type of marketing. This is
the type of marketing my my rap group one ten
needs like, right, we got this whole custom culture stuff
about cars. Imagine if we fix the potholes and Compton.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah that I said, fuck it up.
Speaker 5 (58:35):
And go there. We go city to city ship.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
Or you could do the opposite and buy a bunch
of cheap land somewhere and incorporate it into your own
city and do like Vernon and Irwindale and have a
tiny population with a city that's all industrial and give
them like no headaches at all. Just say, just do
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businesses the ever want to do. The city permitting system
is gonna be the easiest thing you've ever seen in
your life.
Speaker 5 (59:04):
I ain't never seen a house in Erwindale now that
I think about it, I ain't even see the.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
House and Vernony houses, but it is really small.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Yeah, like you know what I mean, like commerce, Like
they got one one area, you know what I'm saying,
And these are the houses that everything else is just.
Speaker 5 (59:24):
Shit tires, shops faster.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
I just got to figure out how do we this
is See, this is why you need a white man
on your team, bro, because he will tell us how
white people do the ship.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Because right now here's a great problem.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
There's a rap group that focuses on custom culture like cars.
And then Compton, the place that I grew up in
that that were all close to it we hold near
and deer in hip hop. There's potholes in the road
where people can't even cruise their ca like even regular people.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
It's just horrible.
Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Imagine you're on hydraulics the roads and can't afford to
fix the cars over and over again, like I ain't got.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
But imagine if we, if one ten can solve the
problem of Compton, that probably could be a lot bigger.
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
I don't disagree, but how.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
The fuck do we make them pay us to fix
the fucking roads.
Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
That is going to be tough. You would literally have
to You're gonna have to get your own proposition or
bond measure for sure, because they're not gonna put that
into their budget. If they're still tens of million dollars
of tens of millions of dollars short on budget, they're
(01:00:46):
not gonna like throw out a few million. Because I'll
also think about something like potholes. There's no incentive for
them to fix potholes. It pulls money out of other
shit in their budget that they want for themselves. And
if you're getting tires and shocks and all the rest
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of it done, you're probably getting it done in Compton.
That's more tax revenue for them.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
The people need to roll fix.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
The people need to be engaged.
Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
People gotta be apart. People are man come on, people
tied of poles bro regular every day. I don't like
I'm getting mad thinking about.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Yeah that's ship.
Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
You ever hit a pothole and just think your own
card broke?
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Oh yeah, I've hit potholes and gotten out of the
car to see I.
Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
Ain't no way.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Been looking out for tuning into the Note Sellers podcast.
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This episode was recorded right here on the West coast
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Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Yeah
Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Sealer's Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
loaw glasses Malone. The awkward thing is when you don't
really have much to start the show with, yes, or
you walk into the show and like, you don't have
(00:27):
a preconceived idea, like I watch a lot of podcasts,
why don't I'm telling a lie.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let me start with that. I do not watch a
lot of podcasts.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I rarely ever watch podcasts, like I may watch clips,
but I don't watch the whole podcasts. But it seems
like more people put vested interest in what's happening on
a week to talk about.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, it's easy, that's cheap and easy cheap, but it's easy,
and I.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Think that's what we do with the stream. I think
that's what we do with the stream. The stream is Monday, Wednesday,
and Friday, you know, the lunch hour.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's like a periodical.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, But what I try to do with the podcast
is make something where it's deeper into the cave.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's not at the front door of the cave. It's
not at the opening.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Sure, so it's odd to start a pod and you
have no idea what you want to talk.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
About or what's deep in the cave. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We'll just have to like walk and talk like an
awkward first date until we get deep enough in the
cave to find something.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh man, how something happens?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No sellings podcast gl I got my brother Peter Boss.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
We brought Joey west Side. I gotta keep Joey Westside
on his toes.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Joey is getting better at discussing and talking a lot
more and more. Joey be so frustrated with all of
the content that's online, especially when it comes to Los
Angeles street urban culture. I mean curious, and it's funny
because he goes down this rabbit hole of LA street
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urban culture. But the bullshit part of it, it don't
even be cultural cause it don't be like nobody that
contribute to no level of art. You know, hip hop
is street urban culture, you know, initially based out of
New York. So it's that's why they say the elements
is MC and DJing, dancing, graffiti. Even the knowledge is
those are like artistic things. And then there's people right
(02:40):
now that's creating content. Everything they do is just.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Street. There's no culture.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
It's like eating a spoonful of salt. Yeah, you know,
like I would like to think of hip hop as
soul food, right, like like macaroni and cheese, like greens,
like yams. You know, it's seasoned to the heavens, but
it's still some level of nourishment under all of that seasoning. Yeah,
these niggas is like just taking a spoonful of salt,
(03:10):
just eating it, and that's what they sell them.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And most candies. When you were a kid, it was
like a white piece of sugar and you dipped it
in more flavored sugar.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, that's how it is.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
They just said, throw the stick out.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
In my rabbit hole.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
For some reason, on ig has been just sellouts like sellouts.
Sellouts is like people who their whole content pieces talking shit.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
About black people. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Like, and don't get me wrong, Pete, I get it.
A lot of people that are not black, like black people,
have taken advantage of the circumstances or at least of
the trauma that they've been through, which is ridiculous, right
because really, you supposed to get balanced and treated correct,
like I always tell you, supposed to get reparations. You're
supposed to repair that that setback and me and you
(04:05):
could move forward, amig. But its people like the newest
thing is the Carnival Cruise ship, right and you, I.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Don't know what this is even about. But cruises. I
got in trouble Cauz like six months ago. I just
put on an Instagram story cruises are ghetto and people.
I was on a cruise last month and I'm like, mm.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It's it's about It's about them niggas. And then bluetooth speakers.
It's it's it's definitely about the niggas. Bro they tied
to niggas. Uh partier sleep they got bluetooth speakers at
the jacuzzis while everybody's sleeping.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's just like like just a lot of common content
on social media about it. Or was there like a
thing where like Carnival like stopped at an island and
like I said, you guys have to get off the
fucking boat.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
So no, I don't think it was that extreme.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So Carnival Cruise, they didn't put it out, but it
came out from them. Carnival Cruise hasn't really said much
about it. They've kind of watered They've kind of like,
look y'all doing a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We didn't say all that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
We're trying to keep a level of whatever on our ship.
But they said some of the cruises won't be playing
hip hop. They said some of the cruises, you know,
you can't. You can't bring fans on and do the steps,
you know, the boots on the ground. They talked about
kids under eighteen not being able to run loose at
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one or two, and I didn't think that was that bag.
They said they were back up on little hip hop,
and I'm not mad. I don't know if it should
be all hip hop on the damn cruise, Like if
it was a cruise that had all hip hop, it
should be a hip hop cruise.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I would like a.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Cruises, you know, just find it there. Seems like every
other damn ship's a thematic cruise. Just find the cruise
themed for you.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
But the point is, so people started talking shit and
then they started over selling exactly what's happening right, like, oh,
these cruises are so cramming, like bro y'all so dramatic,
like you'll see one and you know what, this is
kind of what fuck Instagram up? What fucks humans up
(06:24):
with Instagram? Instagram will have you believe in what you
see is real life all the time, Yes, sir, Yes, right,
and it's getting worse and worse. Like I was in
the group chat, so everybody know, I got this group
chat with pun ad problem in the Homie Ace Boy Manny.
(06:45):
They were showing a video today of some asshole that
ran their card.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Through a bunch of people, fucking people up, maybe even
some people died.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Was that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, they snatched the dude out and whooped to his
ass and shotting.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, it's something that's not funny, but that's funny, but
that's that's extreme, like because they felt they automatically assumed
he drink, drinking and drive.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The way it was described on the thing that I saw,
it was like somebody It made it seem almost kind
of like it was a hit or something.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I'm not sure. Maybe it's two different things, but the
one I saw one.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
There's no way it happened twice.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, oh, it happens, for sure. It happens more than
twice every day in the same night, every day, every day.
It's America. America got four hundred people yet as much
as in East Hollywood. Yes, yes, I believe that people
crash into plow for some funs.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I believe that's happening way more. But but that's not
the point. I don't want to get caught there. That
wasn't the point that okay, and they snatched the person out,
whooped his ass whatever, shotting whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Pun is saying.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Man, you know, it's way worse now than we ever
went out. And I was thinking about the ship we
used to do. We used to go out, and I
noticed when you get old, all you start doing is
being cynical of shit, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And it's like for him to say that, and I'm thinking, like, nigga,
all the bullshit that used to happen, and really, it
wasn't that much shit happening. What is it about getting
old and cynical? Especially with this damn phone. This phone
will have you thinking you see some shit. You'll be
looking at your phone. You yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
The cruises, man, the nigga's on their They just danced
on Nigga. That ain't on all the damn cruise. That
song is very select few of them cruise.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I went on a carnival cruise, bro, and it ain't
that bad.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
We have their boots on the ground.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I don't know if that song was out at the
time when I went. But uh, it probably had one
of them moments.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
But where did what city? Did your cruise leave out?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Him? Long Beach to Ensinnata, the Long Beach to Sonato?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Now look this port, Huh, you gotta leave out of
this port because you hicked people up from both ports
doing uber shit. Yeah, this port, that's a whole different party.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Right, But if your algorithm, right, is all these type
of things, then that becomes your.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
World for sure. They prioritize that.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
So if you, if you're watching you, I would.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Think women were in shape. If it's if I, if
I believe.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
The time, you go, now you go, now you go.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
So if that's your argue and that's your life and
you seeing all these it's like watching the news, like
the news always got something just something trying, you know,
just it's tragedy. So yo, if your algorithm is all
these things, they look like, man, this is what the
world is. The world is messed up, and it's like, bro,
there's a you can switch your algorithm and you don't
see none of that.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Like my wife don't see a lot of shit.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Sure she I didn't see that I didn't know that
because she on the whole nother side of the world.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
All these different rabbit.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Holes, and then you go down a rabbit hole and
it becomes like, oh man, it's just all bad.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It's like bro now.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
And that's my point, Like I don't think I'm getting
old like the Homies is because I don't look and
think nothing is really different, you know what I mean.
I don't be like, oh man, it's different now the
way and I'm like, no, it's not like that.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
People spend so much time trying to convince me things
are different.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I remember ten years ago people was telling me about
hip hopping was you know, still was telling me, oh man,
you know you're getting older.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm like, check this out.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
You either got it that you don't got it, like
the Clips album, right, and Malice said the same thing.
You either got it that you don't got it. Age
was never a hindrance. That was something people made up
in their mind and they started to tell.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Other people that.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
There you go, people.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Let that become the truth. And it's just like with
these carnival cruises. Don't get me wrong. If you go
on the cruise that's a weekend, you probably gonna get
a lot of people scared of being on a cruise,
and those people may be more festive and more partying,
because if you're on a cruise for seven eight days,
you not even hanging out doing all that all the time.
Like that's a lot of work. Lord knows, a fourteen
day cruise if your goal was to get away from
(11:24):
let's say, for lack of terms, black people, just go
on the cruise.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's fourteen days.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
One thing you could bet niggas ain't doing is being
on no crew for no fourteen fucking days.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Anyone else they're not doing. They're not going during the week.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
So I went during the week, and I think my
last day may have been like a Friday, right or Saturday,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
But people are going to cruises like on the week,
the weekend off. Yeah, Like I'm figuring we got a
couple of days are.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
We going on a cruise's finish grabbing them girls and
wanna take this little girl on the boat and knocker down.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
For yeah, and honestly, man vacation in his tiring Yeah,
I hate it, Like it ain't like when I went
to Mexico for like seven days. I'm like Wednesday hit.
I'm like, I want to go home.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
You feel me. I'm over it.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's the number one issue. Like every girl in the
world wants to ask me, where do you want to
travel to?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Don't know?
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I want to go nowhere? Never like aside from the
fact it's the biggest pain in the ass of all
time for what it's worth it cost him. If I
wouldn't want to go for fucking free, you want me
to pay thousands dollars. No, not happening.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
You're gonna eat and sleep.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh, sip my pool off cocktails.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh that's really I was.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I was drinking liquor at six am in the pool.
I love swimming pool, so I'm fit to go. It's
six am, I'm in the pool like that. Fuck you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's it right, But I just don't get what is
it about growing up that makes people more cynical.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I think when you're older you could there are two
things you start to see, what like the mistakes you know,
and the ramifications, because when you're doing it, there's no
ramification recons have afterwards. And also it's like you start
to look at it as this, you know, this is shit.
(13:29):
I'm gonna have to in kind pay for some way
or another.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
You know, like.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Guys go out party and get drunk and plow through
three cars and kill three people, and all State has
to write a ten million dollar check. Fuck my car
insurance is going to go up now because this fucking
idiot or whatever the hell it is.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You know, even when I talk to homies about gang
banging Pete, it'd be like, man, you know, back in
the day, you know, and usual to be snitching a snitch,
would you know there'd be consequences.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Back in the day, people would snitch and they would
move off to Apple Valley, you know what I mean.
That would be like the last honorable thing they would do.
Nobody had to kick their ass. They knew not to
show their face. It's not like today. It's not like
today is different. Like Gunna is not hanging out in nobodyhood.
(14:25):
He not hanging out with friends and shit. He is
a businessman. So it's not like it would be different.
Time is not changing the way people think it is,
you know what I mean. I think this whole the
way things used to be is a bit overstated.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It's actually kind.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Of It's really easy to say. And then you got
people studying niggas who hate the streets. They getting all
the information from people who hate the streets, so they
telling them what the streets is. The dudes who don't
even be in the streets, and they're getting money off
hating the streets on the Internet, and they get all
the information from them. People just be peak shit so
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they can add something to say too. That's another thing.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, And there's the controversy sales component. If you're inflammatory,
people are gonna repost you or comment on your shit.
Ten million ten million fuck you's is worth more than
zero fuck yous or one I love you?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And in the digital world, what's the biggest fear for you? Peak?
Getting older?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Getting older, having to do this shit for another fifty
fucking years, not the podcast by Daily.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Life, Living Living.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, yeah, forty more years of this Christ.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
What's the biggest what's the biggest feeling for you getting older?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
West Side and honestly, man, losing people you love that
shit Sometimes I think about that. That shit be scary.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Do you have a goal out live niggas? Like my
goal is to outlive niggas.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I don't know if I ever looked at it as
a goal, but I definitely find myself at the age
and that like I'm convinced like I'm getting old, Like
I'm getting older. You feel me. I feel it. I
see it like you say, people around you, you know,
people getting sick. Shit, I get sick. You know when
I that car accident that I was just in, That
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shit kind of tricked me out.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
You feel me because it was like I had no control.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
So I'm like, like, damn man, like shit real.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
And I find myself sometimes trying to move in a
way where at all, at all, at all costs, I'm straight.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I was telling Spade Spade from and Holmie Boy from
Tray Tray and Denver. Like we at that age to
where now getting shot is not the only way to die,
you know what I mean, Like in your twenties where
we come from, Pete, that's how you die.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You get shot. Yeah, rarely, you might get in the
crash and then you usually live through that. But we
at the age.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Now where they could just have hot blood plus and
have a heart attack. You just getting to that age
where multiple shit feel like it take you out.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Think about shit like that too, you know what I
mean immediately you'd be like, damn nigga, way hold up,
you feel me?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But I ain't gonna lie to you the fear that
I have about getting older. I'm more excited about the
challenges of it all. Like I'm more excited about mastering me.
Like I find myself being like my dad a lot
of times where I don't got time now to kiss
your ass. I'm gonna tell you what I think, Like,
I'm not finna if we're not friends behind it, that's
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cool too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
But huh, I admire that about elders.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, I'm just to that place now where I'm like, look, man,
this is what it is. This is why I'm at
with it. This is why I'm at with it. But
I just noticed that that was happening, and like so
just like when I fall down those rabbit holes, like
I could walk up and be like, man, niggas is
selling out every day. I still understand that this is
this small, niche group of weird ass content creators that's
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trying to get the the the likes from people who
really just don't like black people, like and I'm talking
about it's bad.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I saw a little black girl.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And she was like, you know something something black culture,
And I kept being like, I've been asking for a while, Pete,
what the fuck is black culture? Like, asshole? Some asshole
came and said, you know a street shootings. I'm like, man,
I component it was shooting motherfuckers in the streets in
the seventeen nineteen, seventeen, nineteen twenty in La, the white
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fences and the maut of Vias was shooting each other
in the thirties and forties. That was before Brothers even
had a cripple a blood game. So I just can't
identify as black culture. Like I get the thought of it.
I think what we call soul food is more American
slave culture. But it is a lot of black people
that did not grow up eating soul food. I mean,
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it's not necessarily And the more I think about it,
even down these rabbit holes. And here's another thing about
growing up again, the same thing. Why I'm just telling
people what I think it's like. If you are, are
you a proud American?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Peak?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I guess in the way you're asking, sure, I mean enough,
I've never individual.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I never in my life heard you call yourself a
proud white American, Like, I'm watching brothers get to a
place where I think they're trying to adjust their mind
and they're trying to come to times with circumstances in
this country and they're trying to find some level of
pride and a connection to it, which is weird to
me because I do not connect to the country. I
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connect to people, right, I connect to Peter. I am
not connecting to the idea.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So even is the word we, everyone's they to me,
like like white people are they?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
There's me and there's everyone else in facts, right, But
I've said people say that to me, they'd be like, oh, Glass,
you know, They'll say, like, I'm a proud black American.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I'm like, well, if you're a proud black American, why
put black in it? That's what I don't get.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I think I would be more interested in inquiring why
put American in it? In a lot of the census
only only in the sense that it's like the American
experience of a person who is black, But it's I
would think if you were if you were like legitimately
we're saying that to somebody of a certain worldview, or
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why are you you know, cars of a black American
or whatever. It's probably more the black part than the
American part, in which that they take pride, at least
in a lot of the contexts.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, but those two are conflating ideas being black an American,
right because historically how America has been towards black people.
That's why I don't say I'm a black American unless
I'm speaking legally in another country, and then I'll just
say I'm American. I wouldn't tell they could obviously see
my black ass, so I don't need to say I'm
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black American. So even when I'm in a country, it
really wouldn't make no sense to me to reference yourself
as a proud black American. To even call yourself a
black American and then have an American flag kind of
don't make no sense. Why not just be American?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Well, I don't think people be doing. They not as
studied as you.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Even if what you're saying, that concept right is pretty
much simple and obvious, right, Well, most people ain't really
looking at it that deep.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Basal, like I'm black and I'm Americans, so I'm proud black.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Then then it turned into semantics, and then it'll just
be one of them conversations where you'd be like, why
the fuck am I even talking to this person at
this point?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, I just I think if you're going to go
go you know what I'm saying, Like, what's this half go?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Like?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
If you really going to get to that place right,
if you're going to get to that place right where
you're like, I'm taking on the identity of this country.
I'm not tripping about what happened to my ancestors. I'm
not tripping off what this country has systemically did to
people that look like me for years. I'm gonna find pride.
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The first thing you should shed is the concept of
being black to me, you know what I mean, because
being black is more of a question mark. It's more
of an x like you're not quite sure of what
you are. Because you'll never hear a Nigerian person have
to reference themselves as black. They are Nigerian, they whatever,
try them.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
One thing they don't got to do is tell you
that they are black.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
They are certainly you know this, so even the concept
of it doesn't make sense. And and that's what I'm
starting to get as I get older, bro. Whereas like
I don't got time Joey for silly shit. All the
silly shit, bro is driving me crazy because it'd be like,
shut the fuck up the fuck.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Call you mean and start saying like, man, you always
got a mean and you always got.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
White about that ship.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm like, God, if you are a native American, stop
saying you're black.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Man, Why can't be black?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
You can't be at all, brother, You can't if you
are if you're convincing, if you're trying to vinced me
that your family did not come from no slave ship,
which is possible because there were people here that looked
like us Joey way.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Before the slaveship.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yes, they came over before cool and then the Great
Migration seventy thousand years ago people that migrated away over
here even though they look different because they didne came
a long way walking and generation on top of generation
they were here. But what are you holding on to
by being black? Like, why are you trying to connect
with motherfucker? It's weird because they try to connect with
motherfuckers that they ain't trying to connect with. And this
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is the problem with getting older. The problem with getting
older is you just have less patience for this, for
the just silly.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Shit no, you do you do?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
God, I don't have no patience for it. And most
of the time I just don't say shit.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
It's better, that's the that's the easiest thing to do, man,
because saying something sometimes is come, yeah, come with a
lot of other shit. That's like, damn, man, I why
why did I even say anything? The person ain't pretty
roight each that damn words out. It's rare when someone
trying to have a genuine conversation about something about those things,
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when y'all really trained information.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
You know what I'm saying. I found myself.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Most of the time people try to prove that they
know something that they may not have ever read about.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
They just regurgitating some shit.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
They they regurgitating hearsay, even saying it with confidence.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Even then they don't think about it. Even then they
don't think about what they heard. My problem is it
becomes they hear something, write or down, that's it. They
don't even like when Pete tell me something like, I'll
think about it for time. I think about it, like Pete,
me and Pete was talking about Like Pete is more
to me of a historian than me, where he understands
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how human beings did things like we've talked about how
humans migrated no different than birds flying different places were
food at or buffalo's went to certain places where ward
elephants migrate the water during times of years, like humans
kind of try to notch theyselfs into the ground all
the time, right, your goal is to kind of notch
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yourself into the ground, like right into this house.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You want to live right here for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
When everything about nature says most things move they move for,
you know, opportunity, whether it's opportunity to eat, opportunity to
drink water, opportunity to hunt. Whatever other mammals and birds
and shit move for. They move for opportunity. But we
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don't humans, especially black folk, you know. And I get
we've been through a lot, so I ain't want to
pick on it. I'm just saying I was telling Pete
this same thing about Detroit, and I noticed I told
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I'm like, yo, we could.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Really we'd have to be visionaries about what's happening could
happen in Detroit, but we want to be there first.
We should really be trying to get in there, because
that's how like people favorite buzzwords generational wealth, you need
to be ahead of a curve for that to kind
of happen nine times out of teen.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Is that fair peak to say, yeah, I got it?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
A whole lot you know of thoughts on that. Yeah,
And I I'm not so sure historically that and it's
not that long of a history if you were to
talk like post emancipation. But Black people move around a lot.
I feel like it's like our generation of people decided
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we're too good to move around. There's a lot of
other previous generations were more than willing to move around
and around it. Yeah, if you want to move around,
I'm not gonna say no. However, people are stat every
Black America say are stagnant.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
They're dynamic. They're They're probably less so than you know,
maybe other groups. But the twentieth century they probably moved
the most. They probably moved the most in the twentieth
century of all groups.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Sure, So.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I don't know fly in other places that. Yeah, I
mean you look at the t Show.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Those people weren't all in Detroit in eighteen ninety at.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
All, and they show got the fuck up out of
there too.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
They got in and they got out.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
To me, to me, I want to be wherever white
people l ain't at first no more, because when white
people come, their money comes. That's that's starting to become
my thing. I don't really care about money enough outside
of the tool to handle my business, but I really
feel like the goal is to be like I noticed,
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that's been the.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Story of my life.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
My mom right when she first bought her house when
I was five four years old, she bought her house
in Compton in the Riskling farms.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right. My dad and my mom broke up when I
was about seven six or seven. My dad bought his.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
House and watch you could buy property in those neighborhoods.
My mom house was probably one hundred and ten thousand
back then, which was really expensive. My dad house was
about eighty thousand. But even growing up in the nineties
and the late nineties, you can get a property one
hundred and seventeenth Street and watch for like seventy eighty thousand.
Still that same property is four hundred and some thousand,
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fine some thousand dollars. And I'm like everywhere I've been
when other people come in, like nothing happened in Compton
to me that I saw that many people decide to
come in but when they.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Came in, everything went up. It could be the fact
that I've been saying for a while. I think, honestly,
the people migrating here from Mexico. You know, whether it's
you know, against.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
The rules or with the rules, is what's driving house
properties up in California. I do think it's more money.
People come in for more money coming into California from
around the world, and money's around.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
The way California. Huh, the money's leaving California. There's more
money leaving California than come in.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Okay, So then what's driving the property Pete? And why
is Joey trying to buy house and he's competing with
seven fucking people to buy a house.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
A few things happened. There's virtually no building happening in California,
so as so that's pretty true. It just gets worse
and worse and worse. But also interest rates moved up,
so now you can't sell. So like, if you had
a five hundred thousand dollars house out of two point eight,
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you're not going to sell that house and then go
move somewhere else and carry a note at a six
point eight. You know you're affordability gets crushed. So inventories
are very very low. So it's reflective of a much
smaller manipulated marketplace and opposed to like the totality of
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the marketplace.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So it's not as many houses for sales.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
It looks like absolutely and like they're like yeah, and
prices are coming down some, but it's a very constrained inventory.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Mm hm.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So you get these weird bidding wars.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So why are you leaving?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Why are I mean.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Cost people say it's cheap everywhere else.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So I mean Elon Musk pulled multiple companies out of California.
He could afford it, just the regulatory environment, the taxes.
All the rest of people are like, screw it, I'm out.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I hear people saying I retired here, I'm gonna retire
somewhere else. When I retire, I'm going.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
To the South. I'm going you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, I think that there's like if you step back
and look at the broader mark, you can kind of
determine usually like if you were to get like say,
beat white money to the punch at a certain spot,
I narrowly missed getting into places just ahead of big
pops like twenty twenty one Memphis really prices that's up
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a lot. Now, Saint Louis up a lot, now has
moved a lot. And you can see it in like
the cap rate of listings for like say multifamilies. If
you see shit, it's like fourteen fifteen percent cap rate,
that's really high. That means that the price of the
property is really really low. So you find an area
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where you see a lot of double digital cap rates
in one general couple zip codes or one city or
one metro. You get in there unless it's a really
like weird scenario or a very like rural environment. But
you get to a big chunk of population where those
numbers start to skew and you can go, Okay, equilibrium's here.
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It should be at eight percent. This is at twelve percent.
I means the price is below equilibrium. People will go
in and buy that opportunity or just to pull it
back up to zero because it's in the negatives.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So if the inventory is lowland Catalifornia and it's uber competitive,
then how does California fall apart?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Because like fall apart? In what sense I was.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
To project it? What's to project it from?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
From? From things you've been studying what happens to California.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Moving forward. There there's budgetary problems now that shows up.
It's really badly run.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
So even like a.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Dollar in California, California schools, like California's public schools are
really bad. There's some districts that do really, really, really
really well, but.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
They're usually white people in the money yet sure, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
But by and large it's like in the bottom five
of states, which is absurd. So they just they pump
more money into stuff and they just steal the money.
I'm perfectly blunt. They don't put it to work. I mean,
the biggest scam in California is we need to give
more money to the schools for the kids. They're just
giving it to the administrators and the pensions.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
They just take the money.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So what happens to California Then if it's a bad
business idea, what happens to this business?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
If it continues in the trajectory there's on, then you
start to see real issues with state municipal bonds like
Chicago had that happened. Chicago's bad that runs the city.
They had a bond crisis, so you have a harder
time raising money, so you start just having to make
cuts and concessions, so your public services get reduced. You
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don't have the tax revenue, so you can't just rely
on that, so you have to go raise bond measures.
Your bond ratings go down, so it becomes harder to
do that, so you start running out of money, and
I don't know how that manifests. In a state like California.
You can start to see parts of Los Angeles annex
themselves out of Los Angeles. Like if Pacific Palisades, for example,
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didn't burn down and LA's shit issues starting getting worse
and worse and no horses, you coun see a place
like Pacific Palsies and annex itself right out of the city,
become its own city. You see like areas in the
l and Empire that are like have removed themselves from
the city of Riverside, like like Rubideaux or something like that,
or East Vale, like those styles places.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
They go from being neighborhoods into cities with mayors.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, so it could manifest in a lot of ways.
You just start to see businesses leaving jobs leave. One
interesting stat I saw since the pandemic, seventy percent of
jobs created in the state of California are below national
median income, not state median income. State median income historically
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in California is way higher than national median income. Competing
against the Arkansas and Oklahoma's of the world, it's below that.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I don't know if people's personal money is leaving as
much people business money is leaving.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Like people, it's both residences here, but they take corporation
somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, but that's what it's starting to feel like that happens,
But they also take their residence. They're legal residents somewhere else.
You can be like my parents, and I'm going to
spend seven months out of state in five months in state,
and I'm not gonna pay California state income tax at
thirteen eight point six percent or whatever it is. I'm
gonna pay Idaho state income taxes six point five and
California gets zero. They don't even get six point five.
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It just get zero.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Because you stay somewhere else for seven months. And how
it works.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, a famous picture. I thought, not that famous. I
liked the picture you that Portnoy guy.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he's arguing with Kanye.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah, he moves to Florida from New York. And you
know the old picture with Wilt Chamberlain of the number
one hundred, you know, black and white. He took a
similar picture holding up the number one hundred and eighty three.
That's one day more than fifty percent of your time
in the state of Florida. He didn't have New York taxes.
That's the magic number?
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Wow? So that's what white people do.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Yeah, it's like it's a dude I work with man
like he do a lot is business or like registered cars, oh,
like in Arizona and shit like here, he don't do
nothing in California.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I think U Haul's entire fleets got Arizona license places.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, like this is information they be having. They know
these things and they take advantage of it and they
do it. Most people don't know know this stuff. I
for show what you know where and they.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Just do it. Where's that? Where can I go? Do that?
Act down the street? Like okay, I'm on my way,
so place right?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
So what's the Michigan state taxis pete?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Oh, Michigan's not that tax friendly. It's not bad like California,
but I don't think it's that great. And I'm some
states have like like Washington has a little bit of
income tax, they don't have sales tax, I believe, or
Organ's like maybe one of the two. Oregon might have
no sales tax at Vegas has no state income tax
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state Nevada, so it depends. I mean, like you'll see
people who something that is like a really expensive car
with a really random license plate. Somebody deliberately bought that
car in that state to avoid sales tax on the car.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Right, Michigan has a flat individual income tax rate of
four point two five percent.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
That's pretty low.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
This rate applies to all residents, regardless of income level
or filing status. Michigan also has a flat corporate income
tax rate of six percent, So that means I can
go live in Michigan for one hundred and eighty three
days and then spend the rest of my time in
California and don't have to pay California.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Is it's kind of expensive, too real expensive? Yeah, California
state to hold on.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I think it's like it's tiered, but the top tier
I want to say it's thirteen six ish yep, something
around there in California, Florid, Florida. Y, I'm in Florida.
We got zero tax here.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh it's it's Oh, there's an additional one percent mental
health services tax on taxable income over one million, making
the top marginal rate effectively thirteen point three percent.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
More three Okay, there's that in California has high sales
tax too, And.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I know it's like in all the rest, like where
I'm at, it is like eleven percent.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah, that's high. That's fucking high.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
So there's not at all a giver day, is it?
Is it really to deal with the population?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
What they They just take the fucking money?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Me do all? They won't.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Their employees get paid a bunch. They're pensioned out the ass.
They can't even afford that. They can't even keep those
books clean. They just take the fucking money. They hire
tons of people. The unions get a percentage of all
the amount of money that that's the California circle drink.
You have government employees, they're part of a union. The
union gobbles up a percentage of all their money. They
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store the money. The more employees they get, the more
money they get. They take some of that money and
they go buy state senators, you know, like like we
buy French fries to make sure that and they pay
for commercial but a new proposition comes up or whatever
the hell to raise more money, to hire more people,
to raise more salaries, to raise more retirement benefits or
Christ knows what. And they get a percentage of all
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of that money and they just spend it on influence
to get more money, to spend more money, to cost
more money, to take more money to get more It's
this a circle.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
So he's got so got the own ecosystem and a ball.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
So then why aren't we selling shit to the state
of California? If they got the money to pay.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Get a contract, don't go get a road cones contract.
You ever noticed, like on a freeway when they're fixing
a pothole, there's seventeen hundred cones for five miles. I
found out from a congressman who was talking to me.
The thing that I went to in uh Vegas last year,
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I was the one before in Memphis. It goes different
cities each year. The special this is not this isn't bullshit.
A former congressman was at a at a cigar thing.
I'm sitting there talking to him. He called it the
highway industrial complex, like the military industrial complex. You get
guys they donate to campaigns, they own a warehouse full
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of cones. They get a contract to go set up
cones and they charge per cone. So the more cones
they set up, the more money they get.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
And for daily rates and got a cone their house.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
They say, what we're doing one lane for fifty yards
on the sixty East on Tuesday night from midnight to
four am. Okay, Well you have to rent the cones
for the whole day for eight months when you work
for ninety minutes a week and jerk off all the time,
and the Caltrans will get their money. The cone guy
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gets his money because he's blocked off that lane from
Pomona all the goddamn way to Marino Valley to work
on a pothole. And he made seventeen million dollars that
year renting out goddamn cones. Welcome to California.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Oh man, how do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
AVP, you gotta tell me, because listen, one thing I
know how to do is hustle. Like I just it
just hit me today, right, I had to replace the
battery in Mi Camaro right, told you.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
To get the authority energy grants for the electric cars.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
You know, we need to get on Squizy, we need
to get on Squeze. We need that those are on.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
The money's gone now, oh yeah, but there will be
new ones.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
So then so at this point, then the business in
California is not the people.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
The people.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
The business in California is California to state the Los
Angeless city.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, California is like one of those
eurotrash cities that is like a pseudo economy. Now there's
a handful. Like you take Silicon Valley out of California,
it collapses in the Cuba in a week.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
You have, like.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
That's the heart where most of the money comes from.
Like you, California's got like a four trillion dollar GDP.
I mean fuck half of that's like it's six addresses.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
So so Hollywood, So Hollywood is gone there.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
That's always been pinions of money. Hollywood as an industry
doesn't do like what Google does. Let alone, like Google
in video, Apple, all these companies are all up there.
So they pay for everything essentially, and you know, vaguely
exaggerating obviously, but like the normal man's economy in California
(44:07):
has worked for the government.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Wow, so what all these people the goal is still
to work for the government.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
They're not paying your money unless you're you know who's
specialized surgeon, lawyer, tech whatever, real estate agent in the
right place to work for the government because they are
overpaying everybody, and they're over hiring and all the rest
of it.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
So okay, So in a state like this, that's the goal, right, Well,
what's the goal in a place like Michigan, like Detroit?
You got the people? Do you do at that point?
Is it the people you kind of doing business with,
because they obviously they Detroit, the city or Michigan don't
have the money that the state of California does. So
in Michigan, it would have to be the opposite, right,
it would have to be the people.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
They're in a tough spot because they kind of have
a little bit of neither. So they get federal backing stuff,
they do pull some money together. They've created some initiatives
to get some growth, and Detroit's done decently well, like
they've regenerated, see from where they started it, from where
they when it was at the very bottom. Yeah, so
you can find some of that I don't know if
(45:16):
their economy can stand on its own two feet right
now though, So that you kind of just have to
be precise out there.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
You know, can't go out there and just flop your arms.
Not someone. Why are you going set your target and
then just lock in?
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Yeah, So what type of people should move to Michigan?
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Probably landlords if you have some money and you can buy,
you know, assets down there that are way below value.
Like if you were like a con tractor yourself, Like
if you could go get a crew together and redo
a small building or a for plex or something like
that in Detroit, you could buy something for nothing, have
(46:09):
your team redo it, either sell it or rent it
out or whatever you know, and make a killing.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
M versus California. Okay, how about this? What about Texas?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Texas is in the middle, right because Texas the state
don't have as much money as the state of California,
even though they have the land mass without the same population.
The population of Texas is less than the population in California,
but it's more land masks. But it's probably in the
middle of what Michigan is and what California is.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
So a little bit about Michigan is like in the
middle of California. And you know, I'm sorry, Texas is
in the middle of California and Michigan. No, sorry, damn it.
Michigan's in the middle California.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Texas is all people. Then, yeah, it's all private help
is in human in the people.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Because even even Texas, like they have no state income tax,
they run a pretty tight ship. Like Florida has a various.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Limited people is keeping their money. So the people have
their money. They're not paying a ton of money for
the property they you know, they're not spending a bunch
of money with taxes. So Texas and state is doing decent,
but the people are doing well versus California. The state
of California is doing well, but the people are doing regular.
And then a place like Michigan is in the middle.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Where huh, no one's quite so much doing well.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, everybody's just making do Yeah. So a place like
Texas is the type of place you go to open
up a business for people. Yeah, in California, the type
of place where you create a business to sell to
the state, all because the state taking all everybody money exactly,
(47:52):
So you got.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
To you gotta figure out a way to.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
You know, California, Los Angeles need you for something.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yeah, but you got it's it's it's about relationships, quote unquote.
So you've got to find a way to get those
grants to get and get those bids, you know, like
a non compete bid is like the dream, you know,
like Caltrans is a is a private company. They have
a virtual monopoly on roadwork. I thought they were a
(48:23):
government agency. I didn't know they were a company until
five six years ago.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
See, this type of stuff is interesting. Now we get
in somewhere.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, go go find some sort of initiative to I
mean there's a lot of beat to ship rows in
the city of Compton. Be like, hey, look, you're causing
the people of Compton. You know, on average like six
hundred dollars per year more per driver on suspension and
(48:58):
tires or whatever else.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
So what we're saying is we could start a business,
a black owned business and that because I know California
loves to pay on ship like black people, you know,
ship that makes them look good. Sure, and create a
company that's that specializes in the ghetto of fixing the road.
(49:21):
And then you charge the city and the state for
fixing the roads because they never get to it. They
have the money, Compton even has the money.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
LA, the city of fucking Los Angeles, which has more
money than they can count, and that's what you pay
your car registration for. LA had to pass a prop
and it's an issue, a sales tax add on it
to fix potholes, even though that's like in their.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Budget already.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, it's already supposed to be done and it's still
not fixed.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
No, they don't get shipped.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Oh how do we guilt them into funding our business
to fix it?
Speaker 3 (50:07):
Just create some popular demand and say I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Gonna demand there. Everybody shit fucked up, but.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
People need to they need to hear it.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
They've all been talking about they've all been talking about
how fucked up it is.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
How do we get in front?
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Okay, that's how community on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Don't organize an event at you know, by the Compton
Courthouse in the city Hall, there's that big courtyardy kind
of area thing. Go organize a big event saying we
want to give glasses, asphalt LLC grants or you don't
(50:48):
even do that to say we want to fix. Have
all them out there saying we fix our roads, fix
our roads. What do we want to fix now? What
do you want to fix our roads? And have them
out there? And then you just go in and say, boy,
you saw all those people yesterday. You know it's funny.
I gotta aligne for an asphalt distributor. Why don't you
(51:12):
guys give me a grapt for next year of those potholes.
You don't have to worry all those people anymore.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
So that's how you do that.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
You can't just complain about it. You gotta really go
out there as a connective.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
I canze I can organize five hundred to one thousand
people coming out there for that.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Like people is mad about they fucking like.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I was there last month and I'm like, bro, I
couldn't drive my lowrider down Wilmington.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
Now, yeah, it's disrespectful. How bad she is.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
There's a place, God bless them. This is how bad.
Like I've been there twenty times from all my driving
all those shitty rental cars Normandy and Fountain twenty four
hour tip place in East Hollywood. I was there weekly
getting tires replaced, to the point where they do so
(52:07):
much midnight business. A taco guy shows up at three
am on Frids and Saturdays.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
There used to be twenty four hours, a couple of
those type places like that. So California is the type
of place you build a business to charge a system.
Texas is the place you build a business to charge
the people in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
You just got to have your vision before you get there.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
You gotta figure Yeah, you gotta figure out which one
you can do. But you just got to like aim
small and this small kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
Yeah, you gotta study it. Scene and they execute for sure.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
So Florida falls closer to Texas very much. So, so
you just need a business for people and you'll to
make out fine.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
California is closer to New York.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Very Yeah, where if you could solve the systems problems,
which is crazy because they genuinely just don't want to
solve their problems.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
So then you have those out of business.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
Huh, put the cells out of business.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
So how do we trigger? Okay, I launched glasses as
fault just to fix the potholes and compton.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, it's just starting all those small to seven to
ten quarter If you try to throw your way around
La City Hall, it's too big, too big, too dispersed.
Hit your compton, your Lynnwood's your cut of Heez or
South Gates, all that kind of shit, those little towns, Bell,
Bell Gardens.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
But how do we force them to give me the
money beside making a backdoor deal. Yeah, well, because it's
a reason they not fixing the damn potholes.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Sure they don't a lot of those seas they don't
have any freaking money. So, like, what you would have
to do is you have to play both sides of it.
The next time that there's a lot cool election or
something where people are voting, you have to start a proposition,
get people to sign the proposition, get enough signatures to
get the prop on the ballot for the city. Would
(54:12):
be it a bond measure or however that works, funding
for whatever, how the different missions positive rules, say we
want a million dollars over the next two years to
potholes because the roads are destroyed and you won't fix them.
And I got all these things, and people will vote
for him. They vote yes for it. Since you put
(54:34):
the prop together, you're you know you need to be
as you're doing that, dealing with the city council people
saying you aren't doing this. I'm doing it and I
and we're going to have another prop another, or another
or another until we have a prop that says you
guys are getting impeached from the city council, like some
(54:56):
Newport Beach has a weird city council thing with the
like it's like always the same people to just keep
rotating positions throughout the city council. Somebody got in charge
of the mayor job, like however many years ago and
just blew the budget wide open. Well, that didn't sit
well with the people who weren't don't like that shit.
They nixed like the whole fucking city council. They did
(55:18):
like a special election thing and they just ran them
all right the fuck out. So if you create push,
you know, at the end of the day is people
just want votes. So you can either the common thing,
particularly for California politics, say you're gonna get you don't
(55:40):
have to do it, just say you're gonna give people
free stuff, or you're in the process of giving them
free shit and buy their votes, or you can grassroots
it and threaten to take their votes from them unless
blank happens.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Okay, but before I get that far, how do I
do something as simple as go fix make the city
of Compton because they have to have the money.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
They touched the ship out of the people. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
They take it off. I don't know what what Compton's
budget looks like.
Speaker 2 (56:15):
See if I can pull this up, how do we
make one t in?
Speaker 5 (56:21):
They just it's a some in consider it so were
it ain't my problem. I don't live in.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
I don't want to believe.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Look, I know that's the coinsistential thought of white people,
but I do not want to believe.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
The system is that raggedy. It could be true.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
Obviously it is, yeah, because I'm saying like it's it's
like it should be a simple fix.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
But that's why we should one ten. That's how we
could launch the album A Man.
Speaker 5 (56:50):
See and get these piles fixed. We want to drive
on them.
Speaker 4 (56:53):
We want to drive on the streets, and we pay
a lot, and then the cars we try to drive
cost money.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
Here's a hard from twenty nineteen. City of Compton's still
facing drastic budget shortfall. City of Compton for the twenty
twenty fiscal years thirty four million dollars short of their budget.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Can we can we? Okay?
Speaker 5 (57:13):
Could that be true?
Speaker 3 (57:14):
And I know that they have to have problems with
their budget. That's why there's no City of Compton PD ultimately,
and why they have County Fire Department all the other
shit because they it's cheaper for them to intermingle the
money and get built.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
City like Compton be that broke. Is it just a
mismanagement of funds because they taxing the shit out of people?
Speaker 3 (57:37):
It is a lot.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Let me wrong. I've seen them make moves.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
They took the factories away, right, they made that Rancho
Dominguez right, They drew certain lines purposely bad.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
That doesn't help. And I'll guarantee you the city didn't
kick the factories out. The factories, sure they might. They
took they ball and went on, Yeah, we're gonna make
this money. Why needna let you niggas get this money?
We gonna put it over here to where nobody could
use it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
See that's what I'm saying. How do we make this
the damn thing? How do I This is why I'm
asking because this is the type of marketing. This is
the type of marketing my my rap group one ten
needs like, right, we got this whole custom culture stuff
about cars. Imagine if we fix the potholes and Compton.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah that I said, fuck it up.
Speaker 5 (58:35):
And go there. We go city to city ship.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
Or you could do the opposite and buy a bunch
of cheap land somewhere and incorporate it into your own
city and do like Vernon and Irwindale and have a
tiny population with a city that's all industrial and give
them like no headaches at all. Just say, just do
(59:00):
businesses the ever want to do. The city permitting system
is gonna be the easiest thing you've ever seen in
your life.
Speaker 5 (59:04):
I ain't never seen a house in Erwindale now that
I think about it, I ain't even see the.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
House and Vernony houses, but it is really small.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Yeah, like you know what I mean, like commerce, Like
they got one one area, you know what I'm saying,
And these are the houses that everything else is just.
Speaker 5 (59:24):
Shit tires, shops faster.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
I just got to figure out how do we this
is See, this is why you need a white man
on your team, bro, because he will tell us how
white people do the ship.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Because right now here's a great problem.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
There's a rap group that focuses on custom culture like cars.
And then Compton, the place that I grew up in
that that were all close to it we hold near
and deer in hip hop. There's potholes in the road
where people can't even cruise their ca like even regular people.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
It's just horrible.
Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Imagine you're on hydraulics the roads and can't afford to
fix the cars over and over again, like I ain't got.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
But imagine if we, if one ten can solve the
problem of Compton, that probably could be a lot bigger.
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
I don't disagree, but how.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
The fuck do we make them pay us to fix
the fucking roads.
Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
That is going to be tough. You would literally have
to You're gonna have to get your own proposition or
bond measure for sure, because they're not gonna put that
into their budget. If they're still tens of million dollars
of tens of millions of dollars short on budget, they're
(01:00:46):
not gonna like throw out a few million. Because I'll
also think about something like potholes. There's no incentive for
them to fix potholes. It pulls money out of other
shit in their budget that they want for themselves. And
if you're getting tires and shocks and all the rest
(01:01:07):
of it done, you're probably getting it done in Compton.
That's more tax revenue for them.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
The people need to roll fix.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
The people need to be engaged.
Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
People gotta be apart. People are man come on, people
tied of poles bro regular every day. I don't like
I'm getting mad thinking about.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Yeah that's ship.
Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
You ever hit a pothole and just think your own
card broke?
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Oh yeah, I've hit potholes and gotten out of the
car to see I.
Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
Ain't no way.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
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