Did Diddy Beat The Feds?, Birthright Laws, Mike Brown to The Knicks

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Now, fuck that with your low glasses, Malone.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Drive.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
What's the deal. That's good? What's good? What's good? What's good?

Speaker 5 (00:21):
We ain't go when nowhere? We ain't gone nowhere.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Let's go try what's up?

Speaker 6 (00:33):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
And we at We for sure? We persure me and
you bet we did?

Speaker 4 (00:39):
We did?

Speaker 5 (00:39):
We bet on this? No, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (00:42):
We gotta check the replace. I know I know that
me and King was on one side with the whole joint.
I think y'a was on the other side.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that we straight, I mean we even if we
were bad, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Now. I still want to get trip rido though. Man,
I'm not gonna do that. Man, let's take a man.
You aren't that man?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, k Now, you know what's funny is when you're
saying we was on different sides, it's not. I don't
believe in people. I don't believe in America. Like since
this case first started, I've been saying the whole time
like it just ain't been fair, and everybody's been making
me think I'm crazy. And there's no way I thought

(01:19):
America would get this right, because because the general public
still ain't got it right, so there was no way possible.

Speaker 7 (01:27):
I thought America would get this right.

Speaker 8 (01:29):
You know what I'm and I'm gonna say you was
one of the first people to step on that limb
that I've heard publicly. But I think as the trial
kept going, I think more and more people start to
kind of step on in that limb a little bit too,
put their tippy toe on there, like maybe this don't
feel ricoshy, maybe it sain't ricoach Wilder, maybe this thing.

(01:50):
So I'm gonna say that too, But you are one
of the first people I heard come out.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
The thing that bothered me the most, though, Bro, is
that people try to judge people try they try their
hardest to judge your character and then say you deserve
time based off your character. Like I went and did
a whole, a whole documentary on Valentine's Day at that

(02:16):
like a whole documentary, and on the documentary all I
do coach, Like I'm just explaining. The documentary is called
Diddyan plain Sight. It was a Diddyan plain Sight and
it's an English company from you know, over the water,
you know, a company from the UK. That filmed it,
and I remember arguing with the host about the RICO

(02:39):
charge and trafficking charge, and I'm like, she was saying
how it fit the letter of the law, and I
remember just telling her, like do y'all I argue with
Charlemagne and I'm like, y'all, don't care that this is
not what that law is for. Like I saw the
same video where Cassie you know or did he you know,

(03:02):
punched on Cassie for lack of better terms, he you know,
h mean Cassie's altercation. I still wanted him to be
charged correctly. Right, I don't feel like that's a RICO.
Most people, like I keep saying trapped, they don't know.
R Kelly and did He got charged with the same thing.
They both got charged with the Racketeering and Corrupt Organization

(03:24):
Act charged, they both got charged with trafficking, and they
both got charged with the Man Act. They both were
one guy in a RICO charge one guy. But these
two cases are the only cases that I know of. Now,
there could be more. I googled, I haven't found any.

(03:46):
These are the only two cases, Coach where they're being
charged right with a RICO Act one guy and and
and the fact that black people saw that and immediately
didn't feel out rage because they wanted to judge those
two brothers morally kind of really messed me up. I'm

(04:06):
not gonna lie to you, Coach. It messed me up
really bad. And I was going I'm going through a
lot of other stuff in life, obviously, right, like a
million things that I have to fix and correct and
build on. But to watch black people look at that
video with him fighting his old lady and then they say, well,
whatever the system does to him is worth it. It

(04:29):
just stole some level of soul from me where I
just start looking at black people completely different, you know
what I mean? Like, and I watched him do the
same thing with r Kelly and that cases are different.
But neither one is worthy of a rico. Neither one
is worthy of trafficking, neither one is worthy of of
a man act, neither one, you know what I mean,

(04:51):
I don't. There's some kind of thing where people align
the thought of, Hey, you know what, if you think
it's fair right that they charge and did he coach? Like,
if it's fair that they're charging Diddy with this, then
you're for domestic abuse.

Speaker 7 (05:05):
No, they have a charge for that. There's a charge
for that.

Speaker 8 (05:11):
It's funny because G know, like so, me and G
got many arguments over R. Kelly, Like we be arguing.
I argue the nikka down about his thoughts on R.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Kelly.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
And it's funny because I did a three sixty on
the shit. It took me a while to come to
come to the light. And you know what, you know
what made me see the light?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
And I hate to say it, It wasn't It wasn't G.

Speaker 8 (05:32):
It was fucking white people. White people made me see
a lot on this situation. I was somewhere with a
bunch of white people and I heard them talking shit
about Diddy and I heard him and I.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Was, you know, I'm I'm I kick it.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
I see.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm with these dudes all the time.

Speaker 8 (05:46):
So I'm hearing them talking shit about Diddy and they
just going off on Diddy, calling them scum the devil
he did he that he did, And I had epiphany
right there. I said, oh shit, this is what you're
talking about. Okay, this is crazy. They they they looking
at this nigga like he is the worst man ever
ever made. And I said, oh, this is what this

(06:08):
they doing? This dude wrong. This is wrong. They shown
him in a light like he is. I mean, they're
showing him like he is the like he's John Gotti.

Speaker 7 (06:18):
And that's not right. And that's what I kept saying.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
And it was bothering me that black people wasn't catching on, man,
because I.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Was one of them dudes.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
But it's to the fact that it's the fact of
like they used that they used the media like I
ain't never seen it be used like this. And I'm
saying to like just social media at that though, you
know what I'm saying, Like, like all them ships was
just it was just a whole it was a takedown.
It was just it was a character It was a
character take down.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Man.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
That's what they wanted to do. You know what I'm saying. Assassination. Yeah,
character assassination, that's what they wanted to do. There wasn't
nothing about what these charges actually was. It was about
your looky did that? You know what I'm saying. It
wasn't nothing about y'all. Let's speak about the case and
is he gonna be is he guilty of his case?
That he being in charge without that?

Speaker 5 (07:10):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Trap?

Speaker 8 (07:10):
The crazy thing is they had enough to assassinate his
character already before they Really my problem with it, this
is where the prosecution went wrong. They should have been
swinging for singles and doubles. They was trying to get
home runs on everything. They were trying to home run
the singles and doubles, score you runs. They were just
trying to hit old runs man, and they and they
fucked themself over. And I was gonna ask you all question,

(07:33):
how do y'all feel that the jury got this right?
How did that make you feel about the legal process.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'm still just worries, bro, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah.

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(08:29):
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Shout out to everybody at the lunch table for Tiama,
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(08:50):
you soon as I hop off hood. I'ma hit you
soon as a hop off line boy. I'm on you.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (08:56):
My nigga tree, what's the deal?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Shout out to Fast Thanks Fast be curating so much man,
I really appreciate it. I mean, shout out to everybody
who tries their best and sits right here and allows
us to work some of these thoughts out. Hopefully we
help you get some of your thoughts out, because I
know a lot of times that I sound crazy when
I be talking.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I get it, you know what I mean, And I
don't know what's wrong with me. I'll be honest with you.
I don't quite know what's wrong with me. But when
I take in information, I just don't let the emotions
of things bother me. You know what I'm saying. I
don't let the emotions of things bother me. So even
when I seen him or saw his old lady right
when that fight happens, I would have nothing to say.

(09:40):
If they charge him for fighting with his old lady,
where is crazy is supposed to come through today?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Let me send it all that sounds on.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
H like I saw that, And if they would have
charged him right for that, then I would have said nothing.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I would have minded my business.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
If they would have charged him for solicitation of prostitution,
I would have said nothing. If they would have charged
him for possession of drugs, I would have said nothing.
There are simple charges that they could charge that brother with.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
That was fair.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
But when you tried to convince the population that he's
John Gotti, that is not right. And it talks about
the same thing that how people see black people in
this country that you would compare Puffy to John Gotti. Now,
it's either you quite don't actually understand what's happening in
Puff situation, or you don't know what's going on with

(10:46):
John Gotti situation. But they've made movies of John Gotti situation,
you know what I mean. John Gotti got Big Pauli
knocked off in front of a steakhouse. Like there's levels
to this gangster shit, and it's just lazy that everybody
sees a black man who may be, you know, morally
different as John Gotti. But to your point, Coach, the

(11:12):
first charge is racketeering. First count is racketeering, not guilty.
Second count was trafficking of Cassie, which is ridiculous. Even
if they would have referenced it as grape three. I
wouldn't be even arguing even if that was the charge.
But racketeering means you're selling women into prostitution. Usually you're
kidnapping women and selling women into prostitution for profit. That's

(11:36):
not what Diddy was doing. Now the letter simplifies it
and makes it ridiculous. It makes it ridiculous, It makes
it to where it's so easy to do it. Where
if you fly a girl from state to state, the
Feds can decide that they want to charge you that way.
So count two was a sex trafficking of Cassie not guilty.

(11:56):
Count three the Man Act when it comes to Cassie guilty.
The Man Act is transportation of prostitution, which that's a
bit even lazy. Like again we talked about I think
I've explained to y'all that whole Jack Johnson thing. Make
sure you look up Jack Johnson and a Man Act.
A white woman was mad that Jack Johnson started dating
her twenty nineteen, twenty year old daughter that was already

(12:19):
a prostitute, and Jack Johnson started dating her and taking
him to her and taking her to his fights. And
the mom went to the federal government and they charged
Jack Johnson with a Man Act like it was a
systemically used law at that time. And they're doing the
same thing right now even in this case, it shouldn't
be a man at charge. But at least at this point,

(12:41):
because he doesn't have you know, a history, you know,
he's only fighting. Hopefully we're looking at no more than
you know, sixty one months somewhere between twenty four and
sixty one months, I mean, which is always what he
should have been fighting the energy of these of the
of the situation and the circumstances. It was never worthy
of life. Y'all sit back and let these people take

(13:04):
a trial to where they were trying to take his life.
Y'all sit back and let y'all did not protest because
you felt like you were so morally superior, because this
man fought his old lady in a fucking hotel, that
you thought it was okay that they gave him life.
What the fuck is wrong with yall? Blackness?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Man?

Speaker 7 (13:24):
What the fuck is wrong with yall? Blackness?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Like blackness is all about caring for other black people.
Black is not just about existing in black skin. It
means you care about the circumstances of black people, especially
in this country where motherfuckers have been targeted. The whole
time I did a conversation coach with with again were
talking about it again, they just leak some another clip

(13:50):
bag Feu shout out to s so on Heineken, shout
out to the homies. And I was saying, how did
black people get so far apart to where we don't
stick together, to where something so obviously heinous happened that
all we wanted to do is look morally upstanding. Because
Puff got into a fight with his girlfriend, so you
thought he should have got him life in prison when
they never gained no other human being life in prison

(14:12):
for fighting the old lady. And then you tried to
rationalize it by talking about his sexual preferences. Oh well,
he sleeps with men that he still don't deserve life.
Oh well, he takes drugs at his parties and people
have drugs, he still doesn't deserve life. None of these
things says that he deserves life, And y'all sit back
and let that black man go through it and didn't

(14:34):
speak up, and y'all thought it was cool because you
didn't want to be on it. And it's the same
thing with r. Kelly, because you're so worried about being
on the side that you think it got something to
do with motherfucking pedophilia or some dumb ass shit, and
you sit back and you let black.

Speaker 7 (14:48):
People get mistreated. Even the worst of us deserve fair
treatment in America.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's it. It's simple.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
If Cassie Brother went and shot Puff, I wouldn't say nothing.
He had to go through his process, and I wouldn't
judge him. I would understand if somebody's sister or father
did something to Puff over their daughter. Man, I don't
got nothing to say because that is a level of
justice in the streets. But you cannot convince me coach
with these people that the system is the hand of

(15:16):
karma when it comes to us.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
They never been a hand of karma, so why would
it be today. I'm gonna go upstair further.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
It was also shocking how you see black people.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Stand this is gonna be.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
It was more of black people rooting for John Gotty
to be free than Puff, which was crazy.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
When you think about it, You're.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Right they idolized John.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
John Gotti was actually getting people knocked off in different
walks of life, not just gangsters, anybody who messed up
the business.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
It's a different level.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
They went to jail for like knocking off fifty sixty people,
just all kinds of crimes. And y'all let them convince Puff, y'all,
let them convince you that Puff is him and deserve
the same charges that John gott He got. One thing
I've tried to do is not talk about Cassie in
this situation, because it's not important, and I know, I

(16:15):
get it, I get it. This is where the dudes
is looking. Cassie is not She's not credible. That's not
the point. That's not the point. The truth is they
were in a tumultuous relationship that was really crazy. That's
how they was living their life. Okay, fine, it's in
a relationship. This is not a part of his racket.
This is not his business. This is not how he's

(16:35):
monetizing his existence. This is not a reco charge. And
y'all sat back and let them do the same thing
to them brothers, and y'all didn't say nothing.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Y'all didn't say shit.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Y'all sat back and let them do it out of
some false sense of moral righteousness.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
And it's not even real.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Like a motherfucker who really don't fuck around, don't even
feel like that way.

Speaker 7 (16:57):
That shit crazy coach, that shit fucked me.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeh bad.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
And and I'm so fucked up today because like.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'm relieved for that dude, you know what I mean that,
you know, he will get to spend time with his children,
figure out his life. Hopefully he gets the therapy need
so he could get off the dope, and you know,
figure out some things about his own life and realize
a lot of these motherfuckers that you've been empowering don't
give two fucks about you. It was gonna let you
just drown like everybody else, like a poor black man.

(17:25):
They was gonna let you drown all the same because
they tried to judge you on a mistake that you
made in your existence.

Speaker 8 (17:31):
And the crazy thing is, I'm hearing black people say
that he gonna get out and he gonna do the.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Same thing all over again.

Speaker 8 (17:37):
Come on, man, I'm saying that's what they're saying. Uh,
when he was going through this shit, he was still
doing this shit like Puffy. And this is my thing
about that is if you don't think black people can
should get a second a third chance, even in America,
then you it's.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
You you ridiculous. Like that's a great point. That's a
yeah point. Man.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
I feel like as if at the beginning, I felt
like everybody was against you know what I'm saying. But
I think as the case was going on, once people
started seeing the trial going anything, then people started like
changing it, changing their opinion and all that though. But
from this at the start, though it was running that
man through the mud. Dude, it was crazy, was nasty,
It was nasty.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Work man.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
Shout out to Lex Domins.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
It would be okay if Cassie brother or father shot
Diddy over a while behavior she willingly participated in. Huh yes, Lex, Like,
if you have a daughter and your daughter wants to
be a prostitute for a pimp, you feel me. Let's
say your daughter wants to be a prostitute for a
pimp and you shot that pimp because your daughter is
not strong enough to make it a better decision. It
comes with consequence, you feel me, But I also understand

(18:48):
why you did it. So I wouldn't be in the
middle of talking about nothing like I get it. I
wouldn't be defending the person you murdered that tried to
pimp out your daughter, and I wouldn't be in the
courtroom trying to convict you on why they did it.
So yes, like, yes, I'm not judging Puff for what
happened with him and Cassie. That's not what I'm judging.
I'm not even I don't even care like he put

(19:10):
his hands on her. That shit come with a penalty
in court. But me who sold drugs have no business
judging a bunch of people for their moral fuck ups,
because I got my own moral fuck ups, So I
don't be judging people shout out to abstract human people
can't get their hands on puff.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
That's not true.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
People forget their hands on puff, but they looking for
an opportunity, and they'll do anything for money, which is
another problem, which is another problem. Yes, just care man,
that shit bothers me. Like, so there's a part of
me trap that's so relieved. It's so relieved that that

(19:48):
brother gonna get a chance to get his life together
right and figure it out. You know, he gets a
second chance or third chance or whatever chance in this
country that's already been hard enough. Fuck the money for me,
he gets a chance, And I'm good with that, you
know what I'm saying, Like he'll be fine. But it's
a part of me that still kind of wonders, like, damn,

(20:09):
and if they could let if this, if the system
and this business can convince y'all that black people don't
deserve fair treatment. Like you could look at an r
KL and be like, hey, well, you're not charging him
for a pedophilia, You're not charging him for a statutory
you know, great, You're not charging him for this, You're
charging him with racketeering. You're charging him for trafficking, charging

(20:34):
him for the man you charge him for the same
thing you charge puff Daddy for. That's not something is wrong.
And if you don't see something is wrong, or if
you feel like a person because you don't approve of
his behavior, is not worth defending in America, another black man,
that's your problem. I keep telling y'all, I don't care.
See I think because y'all think it's about cryps or bloods,

(20:57):
that that means that we that it's a level of
blackness missing.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
It means that I'm willing to hold everybody accountable for
their actions. And I give black people way more grace
than I give everybody else, because enough niggas have done
ship to why I should have been hurt them. But
they black, so I give them time. The only problem
we have is when a motherfucking man trying to take
my life or do too much, and I don't the fuck
what he looks like. But I'm also not gonna let

(21:21):
in true gang fashion coach.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
And you can relate.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I'm not gonna let nobody do nothing to my homies.
I don't give a fuck if it's a motherfucker I
can't stand. Me and Puff are morally on completely different islands.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
I'm in Hawaii. That motherfucker is on far right like.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
He's we're morally completely but that's a brother period back coach, No.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
No, no, it's good now.

Speaker 8 (21:51):
I'm just saying that, I think Glass to touch on
an important fact there about the separation between Puffy's uh
uh about your feelings for Puffy and your feelings about
black people in general, like we we we we put
those together, Like, I don't like bro. I'm not a
Puffy fan. I'm not a dude who thinks I'm not

(22:13):
a Puffy guy. Like I never like Puffy. I don't
even like his music that much, to be honest with you,
and I don't like I don't. I don't like Puffy,
but I love black people. And this is a black issue.
This ain't a Puffy issue. People got it, Like people
just putting that, like with R Kelly or R Kelly,
we don't like him.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
He did he did? He that? Fuck R Kelly. It
just ain't about R Kelly and Puffy. It's about black people.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
In America especially, so I just want fair treatment for him.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
I just want fair treatment for him. That's it.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's all I want is fair treatment for him. That's
all I wanted was fair treatment for r Kelly. That's
all I want is fair treatment, fair treatment, And y'all
make it like well they not worthy of it because
I don't like what he did. Nigga, I long fun
what a motherfucker did. If it's fair, If he murdered
a motherfucker, it come with life in prison. Fine, that's

(23:06):
how it go. That's everybody else get the same thing.
That's what justice is supposed to represent. So when y'all
question me about gang banging, one thing I am is just.
I don't give a fuck if it's a police that
shot my homie or another brother that shot my homie.
Justice is fair. The police don't get off with it.
Not from where we're from. Nobody get off with nothing.
Nobody if you do some shit out of pocket, everybody

(23:26):
get held accountable. That's how it's supposed to be, at
least the system that y'all pay your tax dollars for.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And this thing people gotta understand too.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
Justice in America is what happened to the average white
man is that's how you gotta do it. Not real justice.
Justice is what happened to the average white guy in America.
And people saying, oh what if Puffy get off Scott
free when you know he's done some wrong. That happened
to average white men in America every fucking day. So
this is justice in America. That's is what justice in
America look like. If you go out there and you

(23:57):
you do your case in front of a jury and
say you innocent, you get to go home. And that
shit happened to white people in America every fucking day.
So this is justice in America. And that's all that's
all we want. We want to see black people get
treated like.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Everybody else, not everybody else that's not black white people.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
So everybody else's not black people, because that's what justice is.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
People.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Whatever else A fact? Fact?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Crazy?

Speaker 5 (24:25):
What's the deal?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
You might say? Crazy? It makes sound kind of crunchy.

Speaker 7 (24:32):
Better now, it sounds like you gotta like a filter
on your mic.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
Better.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
No, no shout out to Lex for anyone to do anything.
Bottom line, it's not.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
About that Lex Like, I keep giving you a really
good reference point, and I'm not justifying if some somebody
decides to prostitute your daughter out because your daughter wants
to prostitute. Right, Let's say your daughter wants to prostitute
legs and she finds a pimp somebody to sell her
and this is what she wants. If you shot the

(25:14):
pimp legs, I wouldn't judge you for it. They have
a system in place that would judge you for it.
I can understand why that happened, and you would be
held accountable in the court of law the correct way,
and I wouldn't look at you crazy, lex. I would
just be like, I get it. You know what I
mean that the system is in place. Now, what I
judge people for is a lack of accountability. So if

(25:38):
you tell the police on somebody to avoid punishment for
your own behavior, that's what I judge human for when
you decide that you're gonna lack accountability. So when you're saying, like,
let's say your daughter's a willing participant, let's say she
not strong, feel me she not strong? If you decide

(25:59):
to shoot the y I'm not going to judge you.
I understand why it happened. So in this particular situation
with Cassie, I'm telling you if her brother saw that
video and went over there and fucked Puff over, I
wouldn't judge him. I understand how you can get to
that space. And his brother is gonna be held accountable,
and Cassie's brother is gonna be held accountable in the
court of law, I just wouldn't judge him. My issue

(26:20):
is right now, everybody's trying to judge somebody morally based
off of something, and they're letting the system mistreat them
and mischarge them in these situations because you feel like
whatever should happen should happen based off how you feel
about it. Again, it's not a weird If you don't

(26:41):
think it's weird, you feel me. If you don't think
it's weird that R Kelly and and Puff Daddy got
the same exact charges, something is wrong with you.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
All I'm saying is treat black.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
People the way you treat white people in this country,
especially in a court of law.

Speaker 8 (26:59):
If people have a hard time separating THEO too though,
like dude, they acting like we're saying that if Puffy
had done that to anybody in our family, want to
just ship. I don't care she liked it that nigga
couldn't brush against my sister.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And maybe not the second time, but the first time
I would have saw that video and me and Puff
got a squabble.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
We got a problem right off the rip.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
And if it happened the second and third time, maybe
I'm like, Okay, you like this, yeah exactly, But.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
The first time squabble three.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Or four tif If my little sixteen year old sister
likes R Kelly and R Kelly messed with my six
year old sister, I'm gonna squabble his ass down. I'm
gonna beat the brakes off of you. Fim me straight
upm gonna catch up with him and working fuck him over, period,
no questions. I'm gonna win all of them fights because
now I'm mad, and I'm really good when I'm fighting
for something. Yeah, now I'm fighting for a reason. I'm

(27:53):
not even fighting just for the sake. Now, I'm fighting
to prove a point. So, like I get it. But
when you sit back and you think it's okay to
let this system do that to black people, you become
my problem. You know what I mean, Like, you as
a black man become my problem. And and the way
you see the world is the problem. Go ahead, craze better.

(28:16):
What is up with your mic?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's getting worse too, Yeah, worse.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
I don't know if it's your mic. Create out of
hold up?

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I found better.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
Okay, are you using a computer?

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, okay, check your check your check your settings in
your audio and see what the interface is on. Check
that okay, okay, yeah, that's what you gotta work on.
So do I feel like racism, systemic oppression and racism
is over because Puff, you know, was found not guilty

(29:01):
on on on three of the five charges. No, but
I but I am relieved that that brother gets another
chance at society. It is he'll probably receive the time
for the case that he should have been fighting, which
I still don't know how to feel about that.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
You feel me, But.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
So you know, I don't.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
Mean like the two cases, he got charged with the
maximum time and can get his ten years.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
But they want they wanted consecutive.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
They won a consecutive.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
They want a consecutive.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
But but the way the Feds whole whole Henderson process
goes man he not, he not. He don't got private charges. Yeah,
his counts, his numbers low, his numbers super low. That's
why they're saying that he could possibly get time served
from this whole joint though big I mean.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I mean either way, I'm okay now now, I'm okay,
boring he doesn't get twenty Even if he got twenty years,
I'd be like devastated.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
But I'm okay, Like it's not life.

Speaker 8 (30:02):
This is me personally. I'm not speaking for y'all. I
don't even. I don't as a person, I don't even.
I don't like Buffy like well, I don't know him
enough to like not like him. But from what I
see from him, what I hear about him, I wouldn't
hang out with Puffy like I wouldn't fuck with Puffy.
Puffy wouldn't be a nigga. I have to be anxious
to go fuck with you know, I'm good, good on you're.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
Doing you're doing with the social media, he said his personally,
I'm saying my personally.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
It's personal. It comes from social media.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I thought this niggas, So wait, hold up, trap, let
me let me get this straight.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
Let me get let me let me ask you something.
So Puffy asks you come to the party. You hanging
out with him. I'm going to the line all white
party coming up from front.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
You know what I'm saying, you little too, You're a
little too. You're a little too freaky for me.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
But you staying to that, You're staying with the after
party with Puffy, hanging out of him.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
I'm going to the all White party and the Hampings
Live Man and after party. You tell you hanging out
with I'm not before the now, I'm not before the
All I'm saying is trapped.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
Me and Puffy can't be friends like me and him couldn't.
I would he not g to me like when I
come out to New York, I'm ana fuck with you.
I'm gonna go hang out with you. I'm not hanging
out with Puffy, Like I wouldn't want to go hang
out with Puffy. But that ain't got my because this
ain't a Puffy thing. Like if Puffy beat these charges
and walk out tomorrow and get popped, I would not
cry or nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I'd be like, Okay, damn.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
If Cassi's husband came and got him, I'd be like
a body might have had that coming. But this is
a more, This is a this is about blackness to me,
Like I'm happy he beat I'm happy, And people asking
why why y'all happy he beat the case.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Why y'all, I mean, not he didn't beat it, but
why y'all happy he might beat the case?

Speaker 8 (31:39):
Because this ship is black people should be looking at
this as I hate to say, a win, because that's
how that's where they got us out in the country.
We get a little shit like this, we're like, yeah,
it's a win for black people, but we damn near
got looking at it like, I mean, finally, shit, thank
you a little something, a little piece of something. So

(32:00):
like it's not a puffy thing, guys, because I don't
niggas acting like I love puffy though, Like that's the
I don't like puffy.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
This a black thing to me.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yo, Do you think I'm bad? I'm good now, my
man y?

Speaker 9 (32:14):
Yeah, you think you think he I think he got
found guilty of the ship he was guilty of out
of the ship they charged him with the ship, guilty
with the ship he was actually guilty of.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
I feel him on that, not really only.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
Because maybe they found them guilty on the prostitution ship.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, so.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Okay, you know I can't help you crazy, So like
the man act is just messed up.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
The man act is a thing like you know what
I mean, Like the.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Man acting in the history of that ship.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, so it's like, you know, at least most likely crazed.
It'll be closer to the time he should be fighting.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, shout out to.

Speaker 9 (32:56):
The ship of ship. I think from the door with
fucking shit, Jean deserve to be in there. On all
that other shit he had a he it sounds like
he went to court for having a relationship, well.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Having a relationship.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
Shout out to the skinny day one glasses. I'm gonna
keep it real.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
What Puff was doing was out of pocket shit, yes,
but I give it up to you and act was
the only ones keep it real throughout. Puff was walking
and the charges seemed like yes, yeah, so that Jack
Johnson law is different, is different, you know what I mean,
It's really different. And it again, this is one of

(33:39):
them black meters crazy that go off like like it's
a moral charge, whereas like why don't it like you
taking a girl across state lines to.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
Do it moral things? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Like, even the fact that they could give him twenty
years for this is not truly fitting spirit, because they
could give me twenty years and it would all they
could do is appeal because each charge carries ten years.
You get what I'm saying. So I'm relieved because I
know this is his first offense and it'll probably be

(34:17):
somewhere between twenty four and sixty one months.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Founds hurt, right, which fin he's.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Been in jail for sixteen eighteen months. Maybe they put
him out on house arrest. Maybe they say you did
enough time and here's this long probation period.

Speaker 7 (34:32):
Long probation period. You can bring the mic up me true,
this long.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Probation period cool.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
So I feel like in that conversation he's going to
pretty much get the type of time that the energy
of this case he should have been fighting the energy
of the public, right, the true energy of where the public,
the crime against society he was. It should be something
that's around twenty four to sixty months. And he's been

(35:05):
down sixty months. So he'll be fine. But it's no
way possible. Remember Christ, trafficking carries life, reco carries life
like you can get life out of Rico, and he
had three charges that could got him life in prison.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
That is fucking scary, YO.

Speaker 9 (35:28):
What I was saying last night tracked with surety tried
to put me on black was Yo. They didn't prove
none of this shit they charged him with to me,
not one. They didn't prevent nothing to me that that
proved him guilty of none of the shit they said
that he was doing this shit with more of a
Schmid campaign and more of nigga Like, we really got

(35:48):
to we know a bunch of shit about Puff that
we should not know.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
That shit ain't none of our business.

Speaker 9 (35:53):
We shouldn't know none of that shit, which is kind
of relationship with a female and whatever they chose to
do to keep the relationships fight, they should be between
them with no criminal case cut. That's how I looked
at it from the door. It was a domestic well
criminals for domestic abase, but having this nigga looking that

(36:15):
was in charge with that though, the nigga looking like yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Just checking Metro, what's the deal whatever?

Speaker 6 (36:26):
That's good? Yeah, you're good, you perfect, perfect, Yo. I
just got a point here. So I'm going I'm gonna
say like this, that man got that man is the
Rico killer. B my man, Brian. Still, you know what
I'm saying, that Rico kill with the Rico You want

(36:48):
to beat.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
Your Rico.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
They played on the on the thug rico, but at
least he didn't do the rest.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Of his He wanted to go. He wanted to go
all the way though he was pissed off. He's like
he had that ship that was thunk tapping out the.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Federal charges trap. My mom died in federal prison. I
think everybody know. So they think there's a level of bias.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
I just look at how they make laws.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Like people act like the Feds are this tremendous program,
and it's like, no, they kind of handicap people when
it comes to fighting cases. They make it virtually impossible
for you to get out of jail. Right, they take
your money, say you can't hire the best lawyers.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
It's a million things that they do to handicap the
situation to where it's not a fair fight.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
And I get why.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
You know, the Feds did have the hardest group of
criminals to have to prosecute. But it's different when you
come down from prosecuting true threats to society in any
regards to like to a puff or r Kelly to
the point to where now you like making history, Like
now you have all of a sudden we're going into

(37:58):
articles of law like RICO with other uncharged co conspirators,
Like that ship is not kind of what that law
was for. So for them to keep writing kind of
these back doors to these laws to where they could
weaponize them when they want to, that shit is scarvy
than me, thog.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
And you know what you said before.

Speaker 9 (38:17):
If they start doing that ship to one of us,
they start doing that ship to all of us, and
then nigga don't start don't say something about that shit.
It's gonna be your ass sitting there wondering how the
fuck you got there on some bullshit because now they'll
make that ship the norm.

Speaker 8 (38:34):
Let me ask you a question, where y'a feel like
the disconnects start happening with black people to where? Because
did we not feel a little more united when we're
going through the O.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
When niggas started being haters so they hated on other
men's success. I'm saying, man, that's when that shit came abroun.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
I was telling Squishy this and Squish looked at me crazy.
I'm like, Squish, I think people, I think we're losing
racism in people's eyes every day. Like I think that,
like I listened to Jay Will shout out to toadom
me j Will on ADHD, Traps Platform, make sure y'all
down little clubhouse hop on adh D, follow Trap over there,
ADHD podcast.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
My Man Crazy got new podcast too. We're gonna talk
about that.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
But j Will was saying, like he's a brother and
he says, y'all playing a race card. And I never
heard a brother say that to another brother, Like, and
I'm like, in his mind, he don't feel opressed. He
does feel like he has all the opportunities as a
white man. And I think a lot of I think,

(39:39):
to your point, Coach, and to your benefit, into Metro,
Into Traps, you guys have done such a great job
raising your children that your children don't quite understand the
challenges of growing up black in America. I can say that,
like we our parents did good, but we still kind
of you know, crazy, you know, we still got the streets.

(40:01):
We still kind of got it, even if we wasn't
the poorest person in our neighborhood. We knew poor people
in our neighborhood. But Trap Craze, Coach, Metro, the first
thing you did was you raise your kids, Metro. You
grew up on the East Side, in the low bottoms,
kind of in that area where.

Speaker 7 (40:18):
It's tons of poverty.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Coach, you grew up you know, you was in Inglewood
and it was multiple people in the same house, way
too many people for the same house. Trap you grew
up in. Queen's crazy. You grew up in Brooklyn. Nobody
raising their kids like that.

Speaker 8 (40:32):
It's funny that you said that, because there's many times
where I look at my children and be like, was
this better?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Like because I put them in a better situation than
I grew up in? Was it was it better that?
It was just the right way to do this?

Speaker 8 (40:47):
Because sometime I do look at my kids and be like,
what the fuck are y'all talking about?

Speaker 6 (40:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Like my kids.

Speaker 10 (40:56):
Son, I got a nineteen year old son, never got
into a fight. I'm like, you've never been punched like?

Speaker 11 (41:01):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Like that?

Speaker 2 (41:04):
He's like, why I got to hit your ass?

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
You don't have to fight.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
It happened at some point the ship my son.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
What's crazy is our whole life. We had to fight
their whole life. They probably won't have to fight.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
They try to.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Rodblocks and ship like that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
That's about it.

Speaker 9 (41:21):
Yeah, that like that my son, Like, my son asked
me why I got a box.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I think, nigga, you gotta learn man swim or that
you happen to box the nigga at some point in
your life, nigga, Like that's about ninety nine percent as
a man, even the boxing.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
I got the gloves in the past right over there,
put the ships on him.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Got on my head too.

Speaker 11 (41:48):
You think how many times you slap box with.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
The homies immediately or something.

Speaker 10 (41:53):
With your homies and stuff like that, Like they don't
even know what that means. And they be like, why
would we do that? Like they don't even.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, nigg do nigga, we played football on concrete.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
No ite, catch somebody running on the sideline against the
gate and knock him into the damn gate, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
So I think that's where the disconnect started to.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Happen where, yeah, like it happened where you guys have
done such a great job pairing in your kids that
your kids is like what are y'all talking about?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Like like people kids.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Chris told me her son doesn't even know about racism,
Like he thinks like we're racist because he doesn't know
like everything that he knows about racism for him, is
in a textbook.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Think about that trap your.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Kids Metro, your kids coach, your kids prast maybe your
kids they only read racism in a textbook.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Then they trying to change out that shit gonna look
too though.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
They trying to take They trying to make it to
where you can't even find out that ship in the
text I don't wanna talk about that ship crazy that
I already told y'all the story about my oldest son
that Nigga thought comfidence in New York, like he was
playing in the in the in the street Pop Warner League.
We had a game up in Compton. Now we got

(43:21):
in the car, like, all right, He's like, we're a
game after Compton, he said. We getting on the plane,
I said, old like New York, right, I said, Oh,
I'm doing some weird ship here.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
I'm right, Like how that even happened, Like the inn
really wasn't.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Kudos to y'all, like fourteen.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Kudos to y'all because that's why so shout out to squitch.
Squitches is not a good thing. Probably so I mean
it is. We would love to move into a direction
to where a brother could go to prison right, fighting
unjust charges, right, and then at the end of the

(44:07):
day he beats the unjust charges. The fact that you
need that kind of money, so that that is a
that is that would make people feel like, well, America
is not as bad. You see they let Puff go.
The problem is he needed that kind of money and
they got that far.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
That's proof. That's st racism. Next years you see that
Puff guy.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
You can't say the system is you can't say the
system is racist. You see they let Puff go. They
got it wrong and they corrected it.

Speaker 12 (44:39):
They go.

Speaker 10 (44:42):
Sometimes we might be we I think us as a
people we be enamored with the struggle so much that
we feel like we have to endure the struggle to
win or do good in life. And if you don't,
it's like not earned or you're not It's okay if
your son is Carlton, you don't have to be the
street edge kid who's it. It's okay if he's you
know what I mean, as long as he accomplishes goals

(45:04):
and get to where he needs to. You know, we
all have unique pasts, and I think we all be
striving for better and more. So you would want the
next generation. All our ancestors want us to have what
we're doing right now, and the things that we have
right those are the things they pushed for. So you're
pushing for them. You don't want your kid to have that,
you know what I mean. Now when they growing up,
it might be kind of weird some of the stuff

(45:24):
they say and do, but you know, they always safe.
They always got a meal, that lights are always on.
They don't even know what it's like to just have
like an empty refrigerator. The Wi Fi go off and
they be tripping and you're like, bro, like yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
The biggest thing. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (45:40):
So it's kind of a blessing, you know, to be
able to give them that that luxury a bit, you know.

Speaker 8 (45:45):
You know, you know what I'm gonna say this about
that because my old my oldest son is twenty five
right now, and.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
He's an engineer. You know, he just got got his master's.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Of it.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
You know, I'm seeing that his first job.

Speaker 8 (46:03):
Man, you know, I was, I made a hundred thousand
dollars year, Like his first job he made it first
walked into one hundred thousand dollars. He got his master's
and he I said, okay, you know what I did
a good job here, you know I'm.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Doing I'm doing a great job. Great job I'm doing.
I'm doing it right there.

Speaker 8 (46:18):
And I have my kid, young man. You know, I
was the shot kids having kids and shit out there.
So you know, I thought now that I look back
on it hindsight, you know, I'm.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Like, all right, that that went well, that did right.
A little confused at first, but that's my point where
I think that it is success. But you know, there
are things that make it scary because I agree with Michoe,
like I don't think people should have to raise to struggle.
But the thing is with this type of success, and

(46:47):
it is that generation of kids that are right now,
like they didn't understand what Puff was going through.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
They was like, well, no, he's a horrible person, so
he's going to court for it.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
I'm like, it's more, you know, trying to explain something
that they never truly experienced, you know what I mean,
Like even our generation crazed trap coach, like even me Troe, right,
we we actually saw racism for real, Like we just
get my father saw it or like my grandfather saw it,
but we saw racism for real.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Sogas really say that.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Hell.

Speaker 9 (47:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Like when we talked to real like come.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Up south south from.

Speaker 9 (47:26):
If you if you got a relative that went to
that war today, what like if you got I had
an uncle that.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Went to that war, the Vietnam War, well that with
the Vietnam war.

Speaker 9 (47:38):
Whoever that war when he came home, like the stories
and the ship that he would say, like, if you
didn't witness that ship or see that city, you've had
one of them uncle that fought in that war and
came home with that self shot and them stories and
that ship like that that enough for loan to tell
you something different about the world.

Speaker 8 (47:58):
Cuz, yeah, nigga, will my dad be telling me stories
that nigga was picking cotton?

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Close?

Speaker 2 (48:06):
That made me really realize how close we like that
Nigga picked cotton. He was like, yeah, I was.

Speaker 8 (48:11):
I used to be sitting there. I used to walk
to work get paid five cents an hour. Well, I
used to walk fifteen million.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
And this is how much of a.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Seller our generation is because we be thinking they line
and they be dead serious.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
House to school every day. I'm like Daddy, what he
but look.

Speaker 8 (48:38):
Washing So Gee, you're from you born and raised you
brother California. Okay, So then my dad told me the story,
because this is how this is how unruly black niggas
in California is. My dad told me the story about
how he came out of this house and he was
walking down the street and he's seen a white dude.
Car stopped and the dude. The dude looked at him

(49:03):
and said, hey boy, what you're looking at? You wanna
get over and help me or what? And my dad said, all,
I'll be right over there, sir, and he got over
there and went to go help him. Imagine that ship
happened to anybody who was born in California right now.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I'm gonna we would have.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Like nobody pushed down the exact hospital pushing your stretcher
and we.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Were right there. We'll be right there right there too.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Well my dad's story, I was like, what the are
you talking about? You went over there? Hey man, that's
what was Mississippi. I had to do that Mississippi. I
think it was in California, Mississippi.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
If you ain't got the joint on you, you might
have to do that.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Now turned into a rebel shout out to wish glasses.
My maternal grandma there was a slave. Great grandmother was
a slave. That's how far we're not away.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
That's how close we are. We're right there.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
We just that he picked Cott and I said, wait
a minute, he should be where your dad lived. Coach Mississippi, Mississippi, Mississippi.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
I thought it happened in California. That's what I think.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
At tax in California.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
In the South, like California, black people are not taking
that ship.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
They we we're not.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
We don't understand that type of racism.

Speaker 8 (50:35):
We don't get where a white boy, a white dude
can call you boy and tell you just come help him,
and you go walk over to Yes, I'm.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Sir, Like, what's crazy is I could imagine this generation
of kids, like if Rodney King happened today and they
knew he was drunk and he was drunk and speeding,
they probably would think that that was cool that the
police whooped his ass.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
And he was staking like, nah, we have some George
Floyd sh that that in the day.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
George Floyd George Yeah, yeah, but of a similar impact for.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
That all, it's a little different, right because it's like
they were able to see that, Like if they thought that,
I just worry about black people man moving forward.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
I just worry about that dog. I'm really worried.

Speaker 10 (51:24):
My sons have seen somebody on the internet on the
TikTok video or Instagram where somebody in handcuffs are dealing
with the police and then them getting shot, a black
person getting shot.

Speaker 11 (51:34):
They've seen it at least times.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Yeah, I say that all the time.

Speaker 11 (51:39):
Yeah, And that's the same as the Rodney King thing was.
It was like so shocking, but now we see it
so much.

Speaker 6 (51:44):
It's like I said it the other day. The other
day though, crazy, So that was the worst we've seen
back in the day, was the Rodney King ship. Now
now that they've seen no type of shit they've seen,
they get this trauma instilled them right now, like it's
it's nothing like you to it.

Speaker 9 (52:00):
But because I don't think it's about black and white,
I think it's more about clout. I think more of
these people will just follow the twenty thing. I think
more of these people jumped on the wave. But it
was twenty to clown Puff. It was twenty to not
be a Puff fan. It was twenty to say this,
It was twenty to do that. I can say now
if the wave goes back the other way. Watch how

(52:22):
if it become twenty to be a Puff supporter. Watch
how you're gonna see them same people who were twenty
old Puff as a horrible person. Now they back on
a Puff bandwagon. So a lot of that city the
Internet man, and a lot of these and I'm learning
that most of these motherfuckers just go with the direction
of the crowd. It's just who controlling the wave, that's all.

(52:44):
Who pointing it in what direction? These people don't got
their own opinion, because yeah, and that's what we're.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Missing, what he's saying.

Speaker 10 (52:53):
You gotta think just us as humans. We still have
the same brains that humans had two hundred years ago.
We ain't that much five hundred years. But when you
think of how much information and stuff we're taking in
today than what they took in one hundred years ago.
How many opinions you see, how many comments, how many
different things are just entering your brain, like you're flipping

(53:14):
through social media and all these things, and they forming opinions, algorithms,
all these different things that they tracking and forming to
what you like, what gets your attention, It manipulates you,
like from almost like the stem of your brain.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
You almost don't even recognize it.

Speaker 10 (53:30):
But our brains are like overstimulated, so you're just gonna
get swayed if you don't have a strong mindset. You
can see fifty people say something, you start to agree
with them and go with the crowd instead of trusting
your own thought process. Right, So I think we're just
seeing a bunch of that too. So everybody's confused. You
don't know what's real and what's not real. Everybody's following

(53:51):
each other, sheep those things.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
So sometimes I wonder if I would had rather been
born in this generation and when I was, because I
think we got that. We're born in that perfect era
to where we're still mindful of the past. So when
we see ship like this puffy situation and how black
people reacted to it, it hurts us. Like, you know,

(54:14):
kids right now, they don't give a fuck about this ship,
And I'm up here awake at night wondering about what
happened to a nigga.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
I don't even like.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
This dude, but I'm here like, man.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
We need this YO.

Speaker 6 (54:28):
When I woke up, right, I woke up so text
people talking. I see when the burder came out, I
woke up some out open to my room?

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Yo?

Speaker 6 (54:37):
Did he got found out guilty? I'm like what I
jump out? I'm like what So I go in the room,
our kids in the room playing the game and ship?
Did he got found out guilty? Like, I'm like, who
the fuck is Diddy? So what you're talking about? What
about exactly?

Speaker 2 (54:54):
What about.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
B too?

Speaker 7 (55:02):
Fatima?

Speaker 1 (55:02):
She makes a good point the birthright citizenship where they
the Supreme Court passed the law that allows Trump to
proceed with his challenge of birthright citizenship. And don't get
me wrong, I did hear Trump say that law was
created to protect the slave the babies of slaves in America.

(55:26):
But if you repeal the birthright law, it's going to
be interesting to see the verbiage that still makes it
okay for us to be here legally. Remember, like that
law was made for So if they repeal that law,
Trump did say again, so I'm not putting none in
his lap. He did say that law was for the

(55:47):
babies of slaves on American soil. But how do you
repeal the concept and it doesn't take into account the
person that I'm made for. Do they add something in
the Constitution that makes it specifically for this where you
have to prove that you are the descendant of a slave.
There's some really I've thought about that for Tima, and

(56:10):
I really can't. I don't even want to tweet about
it because I'm so drained but behind trying to get
people to see what's happening with puff, you know, fighting
correct charges, not being mischarged that I don't even want
to have the conversation about this because it is the
things that black people are going to say makes me

(56:33):
really angry and afraid.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I'm gonna be honest with you, g.

Speaker 8 (56:40):
I you know, I'm in America and I'm happy to
be here. I'm not saying I don't want nobody tell
me leave, dude, I don't want to hear that budget.
But I almost would love to see only white people
in America, just the only white people in America, and
see how that shit turned out for them.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
White people hate white people, white people.

Speaker 8 (57:01):
If you go through the end of the beginning of
the time white people can't stand other white people, you
understand how fast America will be destroyed if it was
only white people in America. They hate each other, they
damn or hate they they don't even know they really
hate themselves more than they hate us.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
White people hate each other.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
But you see where Ukraine and you see where you
nobody even talking about Ukraine and Russian squab.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
They just can't stand each other.

Speaker 7 (57:26):
They just squabbling right now, but don't exist.

Speaker 9 (57:29):
But if they get rid of that, right then they don't.
Then they don't have to acknowledge that slavery even existed.
So then we're the reparation conversation.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
God, we never get reparations that ain't happening.

Speaker 9 (57:40):
That's what I'm trying to think through, like the deeper
part of what you was saying, because that I just
came to me when you said it, Like, Yo, if
you don't have to acknowledge that they were even slaves
even more, if you get rid of that, feel that
is his intentions.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
And I do hear some black people with that rhetoric
that they're tired of hearing people talk about slavery, And
I'm like, you know again, I'm just interested, like where
what does the verbiage look like? Does the verbiage look like, okay,
first generation? So if your parents were born here, then
does that like does that verify your birth? It's the
verbiage itself is going to be interested.

Speaker 9 (58:17):
Interest, but with the piggyback of and we'll like to
apply to them because half of them main from here.
Either if they start doing aling these nigga from French
and Europe and anywhere.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Elth Overseas.

Speaker 8 (58:31):
Made an interesting statement. I kind of want to get
you guys opinion on it. Do y'all If Puffy hes
just case and everything everything goes good for Puffy, do
y'all look at that as a win for hip hop?

Speaker 7 (58:45):
No, I don't know about a win.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Got nothing to do with hip hop.

Speaker 10 (58:50):
Leader in the hip hop community. He's airty years one
of our leaders. Is never a good thing overall for
the greater good of the community. Sure, just or music
because he's but I don't know attribute it musically positively
to the community.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I don't know if I would consider it a win
as much as it didn't go bad like people feel
like Puff beat the Feds. He didn't they fucked his
life up substantially. Like I was arguing again, I did
a television show for this, this UK company film company

(59:28):
called Diddy and playing sight and shout out to the
lady that was asking me questions and that was producing
the doc I cannot remember her name. She was a
cool lady, but she was trying to put the behavior
of puff off on hip hop. And I remember just
being so like, yeah, offended, Like you think I would be,

(59:52):
Like you're sitting here talking to me, now, do you
think I would be in a room full of people
that think it's okay to drug people? Like is that
what you think of being a man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
With it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:00:05):
Do you think I would be okay?

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
And it's so weird.

Speaker 7 (01:00:11):
I was like, do you think I would be okay
with men beating their women?

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Like like, I think they take some ideas right without
context and make it the just behavior of a complete culture,
like it is not accepted to beat your old lady.
That there are artists that I talked about fighting with
their old ladies and songs, but that is not the
just idea of the culture itself. So I don't know

(01:00:37):
if I consider it a win as much as we
didn't lose somebody that they were trying to take and
and and people have been hitting me about that documentary
like it was so many people mad at me. I
saw him in the comments and I'm like, damn, like,
are we this far away from blackness to where people
don't understand what I'm saying. I'm like, bro, he's not

(01:00:58):
guilty of a rico. And then everybody, Christy, I'm throwing
it the letter of the law. Oh well, you know
the letter of the law says if you committed a crime,
you know, if if they could prove you did two
or three crime.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
That's not what the rico is.

Speaker 8 (01:01:09):
If any black person in America goes by the law,
by the letter of the law, and to me, I'm
already questioning your blackness because why would you go you
go from law if you had nothing to do with
you have no no partner writing any of these letters,
and now you are here gonna go by the letter
of the law, like I told you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
If I do, Joey, I'm going by field exactly. That's
because it Navy is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
What's crazy is I get upset when I see black
people in America talking about we did something like when
America bomb Iran.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
People are like, oh, we had to we.

Speaker 11 (01:01:44):
About human deeds and the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
People will join the service.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Then I was going to join the service to save
my own life. But trust and believe I knew I
was joining the game now somebody in this service said game.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
If somebody the service said we, I would be like, okay,
because that that's what we you down.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
But black people in this country.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Acting like white people is making decisions considering you as
odd as fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
To me, I'll be trying to tell Na be gang.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
When it comes to that situation. You the last motherfucker mom.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
They the real niggas winning. That's the biggest.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
What do y'all think?

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
I think?

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
I said this on my on my show, I said,
I think that we're going for puff to be past
the love.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
He gotta go.

Speaker 7 (01:02:38):
He had to go into the church to.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
Joe you love, good boy, good boy, good boy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
He can stay a bad boy full of fact.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
You know anything that I do now you know I'm
a fucking weird old perverb. I'm living. I'm living my
truth right now?

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
Does he does? He become a spokesman for the Twinger universe.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
What I'm saying, living my truth.

Speaker 9 (01:03:07):
Man, He becomes a spokesman for the Twinger community, running
around with the rainbow merch on what you become super
love for a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
For sure, Puffies like no doubt about it. No, he
ain't even looking gay I'm just saying he did something gay,
but he didn't do nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
He's just saying weird, something weird.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
You do something weird. We didn't do anything gay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
You gotta be puffy for me like you got it's
for sure a gay man, for sure gay mal.

Speaker 9 (01:03:43):
We ain't con WEIRDI we didn't No, ain't no gate
st nigga, you ain't weird.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Ship, I ain't even if gay going in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
The church, coach that play, that heroine, you having me
and penis them niggas. It was deep down to.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
You got started real.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Many sociding after school special drugs. That is the next right,
let's start right here. Let's start right now.

Speaker 7 (01:04:33):
I'm not gonna convince me that drugs don't make y'all gain.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
No, you gotta it helped me help you be gay.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
I had a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Dormant laying in your door. And as soon as you
take that, it's like.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
The in humans.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I ain't into ex.

Speaker 8 (01:04:57):
Said, okay, like yeah, it's that ex genis that genius
laying dorman in him to bring it out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
That heroin what you what talk on that ship? That
pete cocaine they call it spirits? Why okay, okay? Trap
trap Okay, trap, Why do they call it spirits?

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
It ain't nothing to do with spirits. Got nothing to
do with about spirits.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Out there too, And yeah it's the wrong spirit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Jack Daniels, Jackie Daniels like, exactly, you sitting on that,
Jack and you get Jackie Daniels next thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
You know, you sucking a dick says So he never
take no drugs to drink in his life. No, that's
what he did. That's why he never touched none of
that shit, because he's like, I ain't sucking for sure.
I don't think it works. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
To the g Homie Denny Glasses, people are not going
to hold him accountable. Puff He's gonna put our some
marketing music and everyone forget about his wrong doings.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Nah, not social media kind of marketing. I don't know
if it's not. I got to get involved. I don't
think God want to be involved. Yeah, he need to
be God.

Speaker 9 (01:06:15):
He had to be past the love I'm telling you, Joe,
or being stupid Church. No, I mean come out with
the doing doing to take that then.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Behind it, you know, I'm telling you, Bob, I could
see g Selling Sherman saying gay to each buyer for sure. Man, listen,
you see these people be grave drugs. The first thing
they compromise is their sexuality.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
What what the first thing? What are you talking about?
The nigga cheeseburgers but normal first? But then how is
your next day? Got the cheese? Why you're gonna say,
I'll mow your line? Logically? Apparently logically the next net movies?

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
If you always got.

Speaker 11 (01:07:03):
Low offer possible?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Let me ask, y'all, what would have been the third thing?

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
What was the next thing after al? He went from?

Speaker 12 (01:07:11):
He went from?

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
He could have always lined. He could have watched his
white said I wash your car. If the nigga didn't
shot him so fast. I wonder what came after suck
his dick? Like if he was like, nah, I'm cooling
my dick, what was next?

Speaker 7 (01:07:25):
Shout out to Lex. It's wild glasses and crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Y'all at one point participated in the genocide of black folk,
being affiliated with gangs and the degradation of our community house.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Like, you better stop holding out in them comments.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
It's okay, Lex, I know you're the agent of chaos,
but I'll entertain the thought. It's not about genocide, Lex,
gang banging is really about brotherhood and fellowship, whether you
understand it or not not get it because uh, Robert
Duvall and and and and Dennis Hopper made a movie,
right and they said this is what's happening, and you

(01:08:01):
believed it. You're just not listening to me when I
tell you, most of the time, people are not fighting,
they're not shooting, they're not killing people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Just fights.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
It's just sometimes lex. So it's not a genocide. To
even reference it the same way of what happened with
Hitler and Jewish people in Germany is just intellectually disingenuous.
It's horrible lex It's a horrible thing to do, and
it's and it's it's really disrespectful to the people that
actually went through a genocide, like black people in America,

(01:08:34):
like German people, you know what I'm saying, and like
German like like like Nazi Germany did to Jewish people.

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
It's just lazy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I mean, so, hey, like I.

Speaker 9 (01:08:46):
Tell you this, Let I had more more equips helped
me out or look out for me than I add
actual gang boar than gang turfboard beef. And you could
do with that with you want I add more low
actually do favorite and look out for me on from brotherhood.
Then act to beef I had with other Game.

Speaker 7 (01:09:05):
Members crazy I got. This is how my career goes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
The first person who helped me in the business, to
help me get in the business was a homi named Tone.
He's calling him Black Tone, not Tony Lange that's my
guy too, but my homie Tone from Villagetown Rest in peace.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
He died.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
He was my brother in law's best friend. He introduced
me to four Cent. Four Cent and Game were really close.
He took me to west Side Pirru. Me and four
Sent was rapping in each other's backyard. Mind you, that's
a village town Piru. That's the first person Lex. Second
person is from west Side PIU.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Four Cent.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
We were rapping. I was rapping my crip raps. He
was rapping his Piru rap Lex right in his neighborhood.
He thought I was dope, and he introduced me to
game Face and g Ry, who are from Cedar Block PIU.
They thought I was dope, so they let me be
down with their movement Lex and gave me a record deal.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Got just got me going, gave me their platform without
even having me signed to them. Officially Lex their pow rules.
I sign a record deal with Mac Tin, who is
from Queen Street bloods Lex.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
He's a blood.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Stop letting Dennis Hopper tell you about black people. You
have my number, Leg, You can ask me every question
about games. You do not have to listen to Dennis
Hopper and his movie Colors about gangs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
You don't have to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
You don't have to look at what Fox News TV
shows tell you about gangs. At this point, Lex, we
are good enough for you to call my phone in
black glasses school me about this because I don't understand
what's going on, and obviously Dennis Hopper has misled me.
You know what I'm saying straight up. You don't have
to keep saying stuff that don't make sense. I know,

(01:10:48):
I saw all the news articles. I seen all the
news stories, Lex, But eventually you gotta ask a question
versus thinking you understand. So when you don't say stuff
that's just crazy, like that it's no genocide happening in
gang banging, that's not what's happening. That's like saying it's

(01:11:08):
genocide in Africa because tribes are arguing and fighting. Sometimes
it's like saying it's just not the same. It's a
very serious thing. You doing the same thing that them
people did the puff. You're taking a letter, an idea
of something, and then you making it fit everything it takes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
It's like when people call gang member serial killers. That
is not what a serial killer is. It's not even
enough kid to be called the genocide like the act.

Speaker 8 (01:11:32):
They acting like it's thousands and thousands and thousands of
gang killings in LA a year.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
I'm telling you there's been mass shootings where they knock
off more people than people do in a month.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
But I'm just saying at this point, shout out to
everybody at the lunch table, no sellers live, click that
like button, double click your screen, whatever your Twitter re teachers,
look yr Facebook. Shit, this post got my homie crazed
right here from the sec Life podcast is going crazy.
My brother Trap you see this I g Ady HD podcast.
Uh my brother Metro, you know what I mean, got

(01:12:06):
a great marketing agency. You know what I mean, y'all
follow him on on Instagram. Is money making Metro Still.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Mutro who.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Upgraded and coach coach Ry or coach will great basketball coach,
sports mind and understand the body and all that fly
got great programs.

Speaker 7 (01:12:26):
Y'all follow him on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Uh, wolf Pack, Underscore Prime, look at that, Nick, look
at that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
There you go, So.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
You don't all of y'all at the lust table, y'all
asked me and crazy about gap unless you are a
gang man.

Speaker 7 (01:12:45):
Now, I understand if you feel like your brother's gang member.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
So you know, no, you don't know because you saw
through his lenses, ask about gangs.

Speaker 7 (01:12:54):
I will explain it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
You don't have to take none of that bad information
you got from all these other people that's been lying.
I'm going to be transparent and tell you the truth.
So lex you do not have to reference it the
way people reference what happened with Nazi Germany and Jewish people.
When you refer to black people here, it's just ridiculous.
It's disingenuous and it's actually problematic.

Speaker 8 (01:13:18):
Okay, lex, this nigga said Cripston put all the bloods
in the others.

Speaker 9 (01:13:22):
And let's talk about like we'll talk about him and
his crew. Remember, let's go, we talk about him and
his crew. So let you was running around the street
gang manga. Don't stop that ship like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Alex a game.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Lex is horrible. Lex I heard let's talk crazy. He
was talking about all kinds of stuff. A boy, somebody, mama, nigga,
John all so disrespectful to each other. I'm like, bro,
what is wrong with y'all?

Speaker 9 (01:13:46):
Like I can only be able to bring that nigga
down like like like Shorty and no Avengers.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
You have to know Le's think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
When you arguing with John and y'all saying the worst
things in the world that's happening, and I'm telling y'all
to act like y'all got some sensors.

Speaker 7 (01:14:00):
Remember, it's a crypt telling you that, hey, you guys
are acting like you have no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Please, could y'all conduct yourself with the reasonable you know
and reasonable expectations that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Shout out to Ray like the ceiling. This is what
I say.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
I'm against the black on black crime trope, yet I
clearly identify how we have been propagandized to treat ourselves
with less value. I am on an advocate of value
ourselves Differently, all poor people Ray do that. All poor
people Ray do like do that. Here's something that's funny,
and I think people don't understand this. The pride in

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poor people. They are gangs, they are hip hop. That's
the pride of poor people taking the fact that you
don't speak the greatest English and making a language and
then being able to articulate it over music is how
you got rapping that you call hip hop the level
of DJ. Remember, you could hire a man and they

(01:15:01):
could just play music if you have the money. When
you take two records that are cheap and you use
this equipment and you can make your own music, right,
that's what the DJing component is about. Black on black
crime is not a real thing because nobody does shit
to black people because they're black.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
When people say white on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Black crime, they're talking about crimes that happen to black
people based off race and then in system that doesn't
allow them to be held accountable. If you shoot another
black man in this country and the police see it,
you're going to jail. If they find out you're going
to jail, you're not going to get away with it.
And I don't care what None of the toughest niggas
breathing they're say, ain't no nigga shot no nigga just

(01:15:42):
because he was black that day.

Speaker 7 (01:15:44):
Look at this nigga.

Speaker 8 (01:15:47):
I don't know when I hear black on black when
I hear black on black crime, they're making it seem
like it's injustice is going on with black when they
think when they refer to black on black crime. But
I think that people got to understand when you're talking
about injustice, it got to be a power and balance there.
And this black on black crime is a bunch of
poor people who are you don't see I've never seen
one of my friends who have money say I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
About to go.

Speaker 8 (01:16:09):
I'm about to go right for the black people right now,
I'm about to go get away in the world is
this black on black crime ship? And I don't understand who.
I wonder who made that frame?

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
White?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
White?

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
We want Toda ray like the sun. I am consigned
with poor black people first and foremost. The problem is
poor So if you want to fix that, if you
want to bring value, you have to take all the
people that's making entirely too much money and they have
to start investing in black people that are not making
enough money.

Speaker 8 (01:16:44):
The important America is a systemic thing that's not us
making us poor. Thing like we didn't, I didn't, we
don't wake up it and like you know what I'm about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
To But you have to make it your business.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
The wealthiest Black community, the wealthiest Black people in Americas,
so they have to make it their business to uplift
poor Black people. That needs to be the mantra. If
you want to bring value, change somebody pockets. I watched
so many homies who never had nothing. They never had nothing,
and during the pandemic, they hit a lick and they

(01:17:17):
was coming up off of all that hustling everybody was doing.
And I watched it changed their life because they finally
had a reason to feel decent. They could give their
kids lunch money, they could pay the bills, they didn't
have to live off they old lady. Some people I
personally know, it changed their life forever. So if you
want to give, if you want Black people to have

(01:17:37):
value for themselves, you can't just say, hey, you could
be poor in here when everybody telling you you not
shit if you poured. We flipped that already. That's how
we got hip hop. That's how we got game Maker.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
We flipped that. We took being poor and the brothers
in New York made hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
That's them saying, you know what, I don't care if
I'm poor, I'm gonna make something great and it made
some brothers rich, but it had everybody has to be
tasked with lifting poor black people up. If you not,
then you can't create value mentally, and people just poor.
It's the consistency with all human beings.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
The people that commit the most crimes on poor black
people are rich white people. It's the greatest sociality. Whenever
black people get money, they crimes start.

Speaker 8 (01:18:18):
They if they do, commit crimes just against the white men,
tax evasion.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
And something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
It's hard to create value for ourselves, coach, when you
don't got nothing, especially in a society, in a true
hyper capitalist society that tell you you not shit.

Speaker 7 (01:18:34):
If you don't have nothing, you know what to create.

Speaker 10 (01:18:35):
The mindset development, personal development, your mindset, the way you
view the world, your perspective, all of that is very,
very critical because either you see opportunities and everything or
the world, the voices of the world will drown out
your opinion. And we all have that inner voice that
tells us what we want to do, your goals, your dreams,
what you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Want to do.

Speaker 11 (01:18:56):
But sometimes a lot of people just let the world
just beat it out of.

Speaker 8 (01:18:59):
Them and yeah, so yeah, that's just my quick Hey,
you know the crazy thing is we look at all
these stories of these few white people who who's had it,
came up rough and then and then made it to
be successful, and we look at it like, oh, that's great, nigga,
we have real life superheroes. If you fucking if you,

(01:19:23):
if you, if you start off for and Black and
you make it in America, you are a fucking superhero.

Speaker 7 (01:19:28):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Boy, I can't too.

Speaker 10 (01:19:31):
You can't just give money because they have to understand
what to do with it, because it'll you will mismanage
the opportunity and end back up where you were because
you're thinking is what leads you to where you are
in your life. But you know what I'm saying, So
if you have to give people opportunity, but the mindset
and thinking part is the foundation of it, can't just
hand them a bag of money and be like, yeah,
you're good now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I think it's the way you give them the money.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
I just had this conversation in the airport with Joker
and Hommie Don dub and I was telling them both
they were trying to convince me that Homy that owned
Amazon was a great person. I'm like, he a piece
of shit, and that it was like why he created
all these jobs. I'm like, if you only create jobs
with money, you're a piece of shit. Like Milton Hershey,
to me, is the closest thing to a real motherfucking American.

(01:20:14):
If it's an American white person, that I gotta really
say that white person had it. Milton Hershey, he invested
in humans. He created communities, places where people that live,
that worked in his factories and everything. Right now, Jeff
Bezos can give you a job that pay you twenty
hours hours, you can't even survive.

Speaker 7 (01:20:32):
You can't even live near the factory if you in
la that's all they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
That's all you're doing with eighty billion dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
You just gave some people some jobs. Well, that seem
like slavery. You're just trying to make some more money
for yourself. When do people start to invest in people completely?

Speaker 11 (01:20:48):
It should be people. It should always be people of
a profit. A lot of times it's profit over people.

Speaker 10 (01:20:52):
It's for the biggest But we live in a capitalistic
society and stuff, so it's like eat or get eaten.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
But it's not that it's pimp for you a whole
one of the other.

Speaker 5 (01:21:03):
But it's not that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:04):
It's just what society changed from, right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
It went from we used to applaud people that invested
in the people to involve. Now we just applaud people
that just got money for no reason. Like people want
you to celebrate other people getting rich, Like if another
way you get.

Speaker 10 (01:21:20):
Rich is genuinely solving a problem, though, like you're not.
If you're not feeling avoid and solving a problem, you're
not just getting your money. People ain't just giving Apple
their money for nothing, like Tesla or Amazon or any
of these companies. They're making things easier, like Amazon does
make an easy of use see to we all use
Amazon Prime or order something online and it just come
to the door sometimes the same day. You e've got

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to lead the house there. It saves us time from
the tedious things that we have to do in the world.
We have a short life as human beings, so we
love to invest in our time and our money into
things that save us time because time is the only
thing that we have that's slipping away all the time
we see them.

Speaker 9 (01:21:58):
But if that's the truth, And while millionaires and billionaire
the mater of being boord, they math at the art
of being board.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Yeah, for sure, doing the same repeated things.

Speaker 9 (01:22:08):
So that's how you get your time back. You get
you become to test food just to waste money on
being boored.

Speaker 7 (01:22:17):
Well, it's not that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
So there's two types of mind states, right, there's the
people that enjoy living and they do things to prolong life.
Then there's people who there's an evil way to have money.
Like me and Charlotte Maye talked about this. This is
kind of a debate we've always had going on. He
calls it compassionate capitalism. I'm like, that don't exist, And

(01:22:41):
I think it's because he's such a good dude with
his friends that he tries his best to help his
friends get ahead. And I'm like, that's because that's not
in the name of capitalism. That's in the name of
you being a man. Right, it's not a capitalism says
you know what I mean, like profit hard and keep
it moving. But I think we've like there's no need

(01:23:03):
for Jeff Bezos can eject forty billion dollars. He has
that type of you know, revenue to eject forty billion dollars.
Same for Elon Musk. They can inject money into situations
where people can live, They can raise whole generations of people,
you know what I mean, and I mean real problems,
like not just give them a way to take care

(01:23:24):
of themselfs, but give them a place to live, give
them places to eat at all?

Speaker 10 (01:23:28):
Is so dope, shit, world hunger shouldn't exist people, is
there exact? I'm not pulling all money together in world hunger,
like do that first.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
But capitalism.

Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
Capitalism only makes sense when somebody's making them, when somebody's
making money, not when somebody's spending money.

Speaker 10 (01:23:45):
It's funny something that said as the average humans to
take off and get everything you want for the most part,
they said, you need twenty million dollars at best forty million.

Speaker 11 (01:23:55):
Now you can look at the New York what you
want if you.

Speaker 10 (01:23:58):
Got hundreds of billions of dollars like bro for twenty
million is like they make that every day.

Speaker 7 (01:24:06):
Yeah, you can invest into we stop investing in human beings.

Speaker 10 (01:24:12):
Yeah, human history is what you're investing in too, Like
that's beyond money and.

Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
Like people, But how would you like for example, like
in New York?

Speaker 9 (01:24:21):
Right, you know why the project is into New York
because they need people to work in all them big ads,
in all them building. They need people to run the city.
They need people to to to drive a train, they
need people to drive a buffer. They need people to
work and fide them a little deli. They need people
to work to make the city go around. But they

(01:24:42):
can't afford to pay them people what they deserve. So
let's build the project building up unless fact these people
in here, Let's make it rents up to that, so
we tape them control rent control. That way, we control
their wages altho, because the most important to them is
paying the rent. And then we make it easy for
them to get public assistance so they could feed themselves

(01:25:03):
and their kids. And then in terms you get welfare
and stuff like that. And what I learned, like when
I moved from New York and I came to Georgia,
and I think the difference between the Red and the
Blue state, like cause this shit out here, they don't
make it easy for you to do.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Ship niggas. Really you eat what you kill out here
New York.

Speaker 9 (01:25:20):
You can fall on your ass and they'll pretty much
feed you as long as you're working for the city,
Like the way they I'm telling you who working living
in the projects, I'm talking about, not working for the
city myself talking about the guns, all the low income ways, jobs,

(01:25:41):
job they have, the housing for people that Because if
I get too focused on just living, think about how
many people My grandmother ninety six, why I was born.

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
There's no reason for her to still be there, But
she went three generations of kids in that project.

Speaker 9 (01:26:03):
So how many of them kids were part of that system,
part of the New York City system, and she stayed them,
She kept them, She kept it in that rent up,
that our department. She stayed a part of the system.
So how many people are they relying on to stay
a part of that system and not want to advance,
the want to go and.

Speaker 5 (01:26:20):
Make more money.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Just so you kept using the word system.

Speaker 8 (01:26:23):
That's why I said, it's a systemic thing when it
comes to black people being poor in this country. The
most eye opening thing I've ever ever did was go
to Elsagon to Hi for a year. When I went over,
it was nothing but white people. It was it was
seven black people at that school. And when I got
to see white people and how they how they was
raising their children, and how they talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Money, and it was so different.

Speaker 8 (01:26:45):
I said, wait a minute here, So when I start
raising my children, my children could never My children could
never have a job. My my baby mom got mad
at me because she I would never let my kids
have a job. Hey, why you because that's what we're
taught to Hey, you got to get a job.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
You gotta get work in a factory. You got to
do this.

Speaker 8 (01:27:04):
See was like, hey, teach them a trade, a trade,
my son. My children will never learn the trade. They
will never get a job.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
Early.

Speaker 8 (01:27:10):
None of my kids have ever had a job until
they go went into the career. I'm olding you raising
my kids to have careers and and I was never
looking up because that's how they get us. They've been
raising us to work in these factories and to be
a part of the system. And we can never get
out of this shit. But it's a systemic thing. We
got to start teaching our children, like, hey, this is

(01:27:30):
not what we raised to do. Yes, news exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
So that's my thing. That's why I raised my children.
You'll never you'll never work at McDonald's.

Speaker 5 (01:27:38):
You'll never.

Speaker 8 (01:27:39):
I'm give fuck if you got to live over me
until you finished whatever, you'll never.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
Yees do the same thing.

Speaker 10 (01:27:48):
My nineteen year old videographer even behind the camera since
he's thirteen out here doing videos for businesses and stuff,
making videos. He showed me how you got like eight
or nine companies paying like fifteen dollars a month. That's
he nineteen years old pulling in over ten thousand dollars
a month.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
And that's because I put.

Speaker 10 (01:28:05):
Him on behind that camera, like behind thirteen. That's what
he wanted to do, So I just bought it for
him and drill him on. He making YouTube videos, him
and his brother doing all that stuff and just perfecting
his skills. Got him to some of the softwares. My
pops got him one of them big PC ones for Christmas.
He's just been locked in for like since he was seventeen,
doing Ken Sineta's. He shoot the music videos from my label,

(01:28:27):
so all my artists music videos, he shoot the music videos,
do all the grounds. He's just running businesses like same
thing you said, Like, man, I would never he be
looking at his friends.

Speaker 11 (01:28:36):
Like y'all got jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I will be laughing at them like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Y'all crazy, like yeah, but I don't want it. So
I get everything everybody's saying, but one thing I don't.
Some people not meant for school. I'll be honest, I
think we do need trades now, maybe not for your kids.
Your kids probably got a different level of genetics and
you aggled it there. No, well, no, I'm saying education,
right to proceed into edgu to go into further education

(01:29:02):
or what it higher education?

Speaker 7 (01:29:03):
Right to masters?

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Everybody kids ain't that And I think that's what's wrong,
Like right now the pipeline or black people is trying
to send their kids to college as a level of success.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
It's so it shout out to Mook and shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
To Pete who do no silings with me for educating
me that it has lowered the value of education, especially
at a like a bachelor level like bachelor Science, Bachelors
of Art.

Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
It's lowered it. It's not meant for education.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
I think we're struggling in our communities because we have
removed trades. Trades have now been frowned upon and it's
higher education or owned business when it should be either
higher education, running business or trades.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Trades was a big thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
It really shifted Black people into the position that we
are in now, you know, because trades allow people to
sacrifice their dreams but finance a house and get their
kids through college and all these.

Speaker 9 (01:30:05):
Things that Yes, a side hustle, A trade gave you
a built inside hustle. If you know how to fix shit,
you could always go get some money.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
So I think we do need trades again. I think
that's a really important things. I think we don't have
enough plumbers. I think we don't have enough electricians. I
think we don't have a lot of really valuable and
very well paid trade people in this country.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
If you are teaching your kid to go get a
trade and be in the system, I think that's I
think that's a detriment to black people. But if you're
teaching your children to be to get a trade and
then go be a businessman with that trade, like, hey,
if you're gonna be a plumber, be your own boss
as a plumber, like work your way.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
You should always be having.

Speaker 8 (01:30:51):
I'm telling you when I seen these white kids, these
white kids don't have no kind of a Hey, you
gotta go get a job, you gotta go do this,
we gotta go push you in the do this, you
gotta do this. These white kids going through life care free,
trying to figure out shit, and then they figure and
then when they figure out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Shit, they go into it and they got it.

Speaker 8 (01:31:08):
And now they got they become bosses and they run
companies and they do all this type of shit. Like
I'm not you should not force your kid to go
be to want to go work for somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't think. I think
that's another conversation, right, the ability to run an organized business.
You could teach your kid that if you're equipped with that, right,
if you have that information. Metro, you know, was always
kind of rejected the concept of job. So he started
figuring out his own business so he could program it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
And this kid. Same for you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
But I don't know if every black person is going
at this point at least it's gonna be to teach
their kid how.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
But it's nothing wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
I wanted to say of having a trade and technical
skills as something that people you can help people and
then they could actually feed themselves because you can help
people like so, I think that's a big part of what,
you know, malfunctioning in Black America is the lack of trade,
Like there isn't every you know, coach like shout out

(01:32:08):
to to to Little Will and everybody. They are sharp dudes, Nigga.
You coach some people that ain't sharp. I'm just saying,
not said all of them. I ain't gonna point on
names and none of the home because they's some great kids.
But some of them niggas may not be that sharp.
Now you know, said that that that some of it

(01:32:30):
is pale. Some of them colors ain't coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Some of the drops go. You can't put to the
garage and go six feet and it's dirt and drop.

Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
Step, drop step. I won't do that trap.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
See that, not to put I don't know which kids
I'm not saying. I talked to you.

Speaker 8 (01:32:48):
You you you meet a a I don't want it.
For lack of a better word, I can't think of
it right now. But you meet a dumb kid, you're
gonna you. You're gonna meet a dumb pair.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
But again, but you can't right there, Some people legitly
to like life traumatizes some We all don't have time
to read. Some of us not born with that light
that goes up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
That's the systemic shit though.

Speaker 7 (01:33:14):
Gee, That's what I'm saying. But trade is a big
part of how you change it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
That like when yeah, when black people in America were
doing well, it was in a like when they say
make America great. If there is a time that I
can name for black people, it'll be the fifties and
sixties when they had all of the warehouses going.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
And Detroit was booming.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Detroit is Black America to mean, if you want to
know how black people in America is doing as a whole,
look at Detroit. If Detroit not doing good, black people
in America ain't doing good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
That is black.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Detroit is black is shit, Memphis is black is shit.
But Detroit, like Chicago, with a lot of black people,
but they got a lot of white people.

Speaker 7 (01:33:49):
Detroit is just all black people.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
So if you want to know the status of Black America,
to me, look at Detroit, because that's black people depending
on their self.

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
Cut it up, bros.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
Having to be motile up there too. But I'm saying
because it is. It's like nine hundred, what's.

Speaker 5 (01:34:06):
The probul a morning Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Yeah, because Atlanta got a lot of white people too.

Speaker 9 (01:34:11):
Yeah, it's lot of white down here track Atlanta, the
very small part of Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Lord knows, Georgia.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
Georgia is still Georgia.

Speaker 12 (01:34:22):
You go to Detroit, so I like it, like that
you're out here.

Speaker 11 (01:34:32):
It's like so diverse.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Detroit has a large black population, making a majority black city,
specifically black or American Africans. African Americans constitute approximately eighty
percent of the city's population.

Speaker 7 (01:34:45):
That's a lot of black people.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
So what's that's number one? Then what's number two? I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
It's gonna be way far and it ain't gonna be
no population of that size. So I'm saying to me,
if you want to measure how.

Speaker 6 (01:34:58):
Black, because I've been at the Detroit is fucked up.
So they saying that there is eighty percent black and
that just come on, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Because number But I'm gonna tell you the problem. We
should all all black people. Look, I don't got means
of dollars. I make money, but I don't got means
of dollars. But we should all be investing in Detroit.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
That ship that should his dad up there, they.

Speaker 5 (01:35:23):
Got the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Right, were going to Georgia, were going to GEORGIEA to
where we're going to Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
They get bad.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
The day they get bad, they're gonna just come in
that ship and there's gonna be a fight.

Speaker 8 (01:35:41):
Detroit is where black, that is black, were building up
De Troy. They're gonna come gentryfright that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
We should be doing it. We should be there.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
I want to get property out there.

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
Craze went up there with viola right to do to
do iverson launch right, Yo, I'm gonna go crazy. So
we went to like four different dispensaries and was doing
this right. So like we literally drove all around Detroit.
You know what I'm saying. But when I tell you
that thing is the man that sped like a Third

(01:36:17):
Borough country man for real, real b.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
So that's Black America as a whole. So there's a
couple of you trap and some old people like coach
kids getting masters, and then it's the rest of us.

Speaker 5 (01:36:29):
What you mean.

Speaker 6 (01:36:33):
What I did?

Speaker 5 (01:36:35):
I didn't stay in that damn hed. I stayed downtown.
My name is trapped.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
I don't stay, don't trap.

Speaker 6 (01:36:45):
Yeah, bro, that she was looking just how to be
a math ship looked like that she not. She be
looking to be a meth and she was. I seen
the record store they was they had that she was.
It's bad out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
There, but that's where we need to actually invest. That's black.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
If you want to know the status of Black America
as a whole, look at Detroit. When black America was booming,
Detroit was booming. Ever since the trap being down, Black
America been just limping, just limping, trying to get to
the finished launch.

Speaker 8 (01:37:17):
It's crazy because America got you not even want to
be around black people like that, and they won't convince
me getting money.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
To get mad at me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Everybody get mad at me because crazy while you're down
there in flat Bush with niggas, Why you go to
Straton Olley with niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
I'm like, it's black people, Damn standing out people. I
go to black people. Where I go to a stad
you go to.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
The two sections of black people, it's two sections, like
it's two dots.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Because I'm going where the brothers is at. If that
nigga glasses was behind the house right now and you
went to.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Go to a block, and you've seen I want to
buy a house right now in the Richland forums and Counted.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Obam went in Detroit, You're gonna pick out.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
That's what I'm telling you. What do y'all think is
gonna happen? If I live there? You're gonna want to leave?

Speaker 4 (01:38:13):
You want to come out your.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Niggas start getting some money, Like niggas is looking at me.
They watching me, stop trying to show off. I'm rubber bands.
I could leave Detroy. I could go live in Detroit
Park my load right of there, drive around town, do
my thing, live there and be just fine.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
It's black people there.

Speaker 9 (01:38:40):
You're not gonna want to come out your house every
day and feel a fucked up neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Everything and fixed it all up, and then y'all could
all come down there. We could be black together in
Black America.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
That maense, No, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Starting with one brother. I don't want to be with you.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
In Detroit when getting cold out, I'm gone.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
My house and see white people. Na, I'm playing, I'm playing.
I'm playing. I'm playing grads, so I'm just playing.

Speaker 6 (01:39:19):
I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
I love Detroit, man, I love brothers. A lot of
white people make me nervous, Like too many white people
would make me nervous.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
You know, too many people make me nervous, period. I
don't like concl none of like.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Too many, too many humans, period make me nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
I like I like people, Okay, I like people coming
together when it's a reason why we come together. If
we coming together because it's a street racing, it's a thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
If we on the boulevard and the cars out there,
I'm cool. If we just coming together to be in
the club and poison ourself with spirit, I'm not cool.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
That is just too hood for me.

Speaker 8 (01:39:50):
Like this is why, man, this is my boy, my hey,
but I could not hang with him that many that
many places because I can't go to those streets.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Why do you want to be there?

Speaker 8 (01:39:57):
It's fires, that's dangerous out there, driving all recklessly.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Would you jump out the plane? Fun? No, nigga, what
I'm black? You don't eat sleep potato pie?

Speaker 6 (01:40:08):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
Come on, ain't doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
He do prefer stuffing over? Would you potato pieuse?

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
It was good?

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
Nobody you count sweet potato pot Something with money won't
change sweet potato pie.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Yeah, I can't. I can't charge.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
I can't argue with your coach because I do happen
to know that the stuff we're talking about we eat
based off of economic status at the time, exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:40:33):
But I steal money, turns sweet potato pie to Dutch
apple pie.

Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
Some ice cream on it, sandwich?

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Hey, hey, hey, you got me trapped. I'm about to you.
I'm about to let that once right now after I get.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
Ain't got to go to after the workout the p
n J. I was a kid man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
It's just something I just can't I can't get out
of it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
I can't get out of this one morning after I
worked out.

Speaker 8 (01:41:02):
Just what I'm gonna go home and eat me some
salmon tonight, grits grits. I call that ship grit number
one and cream.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
We niggas over there for okay, trap bro, Why the
funk would I eat grits good good, as long as.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
You I'm cool, damn shucking the grits.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Stop doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:41:31):
Doing that dumb ship again.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
In New York keeping from grits, you posted the grit
hey trap a trap hey?

Speaker 8 (01:41:42):
When I do on a on the on the rare
occasional I eat grits a grit, I put season this
all brown sugar.

Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
Wait, you turn the grit brown lot.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
Your coons get on me again, mad at that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
Niggas turn the sweet, saying, even my grits gotta be
That's what I'm going now, I'm using.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Sweet. There you go. It's sweet and sour.

Speaker 7 (01:42:08):
Grits eat.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Sugar oat what eat o mill.

Speaker 5 (01:42:18):
Might eat grits gris gris every morning other than the South,
every morning.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
Over y'all niggas. Stop doing it, y'all, niggas, Hey, don't
you just be saying some fa you too, glasses? Y'all
got something that brown?

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
Know you?

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
You don't have to eat, You don't have to eat.
I'm not but it's good. It's not about not having it,
brown sugar.

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
How much money you get? Sweet potato pie? Gold with you?

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
I think apple pie might be better for you, but
I know sweet sweet potato taste better.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
It's good for your soul. It's good for your soul.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
Niggas got them slaves, yes, like man, no man, she
putato pie. I'm telling you when y'all wake up. He
told me he wants dressing over.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
He likes stuffing over, dressing stovetop, stovetopp, he said, no top.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
I hate macaron and cheese.

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
No, I hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Let me guess you like you like shaking baked chicken?

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
Chew?

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
I hate macaron Why we eating macaroni cheese? My nigga, like,
what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Apostas? What the what not? Of telling you those two
and stuff? I'm not eating you?

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
Well you know what they tell it. He'll go eat
a chicken pome John thing with.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Oh you're damn right?

Speaker 4 (01:43:39):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
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Speaker 7 (01:43:53):
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In my heart, we finished start winding down. The Knicks
have got a great coach trap Mike Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
I hope you know that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
I like that up.

Speaker 8 (01:44:22):
I like that pick up for the great greatest, the greatest, greatest,
overboard fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Mike.

Speaker 8 (01:44:35):
They got Bud, Bud I would take I would take
Mike Brown over Bud any day. Would you take Mike
Brown over j j Reddick?

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
Yeah what.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
J Reddick?

Speaker 13 (01:44:50):
Yes, Yes, yes, seasons first year so they might that
don't matter. He got Lebron Jason, look at Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
You better got Lebron. So Lebron is good, then len
Lebron Jason went fifty games about.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
The worst could basketball. I'm said, if you're curious to know,
I'm confused. This is what I'm saying. I'm saying. If
you want to win fifty games, get Lebron James. If
you want to win the championship, get Magic Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
If you want to get age, go get Magic. I'm sorry, no,
magine you want to.

Speaker 11 (01:45:27):
Championship? All them dudes from them colleges like Kentucky and Gonzaga,
and I.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Mean everybody goes to college.

Speaker 10 (01:45:32):
I know, but you know you were like, what the
Laker's gonna do for Lebron, like all these young dudes, Yeah, Dane,
little Russell Brow, I mean you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
See none of them with m v P said, I
mean Lebron won't even.

Speaker 11 (01:45:43):
But the sum of the parts, if we would have
had yeah, gonna go to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
All the all the kids, the Lakers, if you had
them right now, they're not gonna win no championships.

Speaker 6 (01:45:56):
So you think I didn't get on it, but it
would at least been the Lonjo got injured, Linto got injured.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
For your boy, that's your fault. They're not trade them
to get Lebron. No, they traded them because Lebron wanted.

Speaker 8 (01:46:15):
And I mean we did get a championship. Even though
championship real funny and like you don't have it look like.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Bomb win and played for man charity is a crazy dds.

Speaker 4 (01:46:32):
In that teams played that same bubble man, we can't
just credit them.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
And I understand why you bring them back to play
the playoffs in one location.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Traveling hurts playing the So the reason people don't just
get a bunch of experienced vet is because they have
to play eighty two games.

Speaker 7 (01:46:54):
Problem one.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Nobody had to play the two games in that season, right,
So now you got the most experienced that don't have
to play the long term two. Traveling sucks. That's something
that all NBA niggas tell me. Traveling sucks way more
than we could imagine. They didn't have to travel. It
all catered to old men.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
What are we talking about? That's what they said.

Speaker 8 (01:47:11):
This little niggas got in that bubble and had and
start hyperventilating. Half of them niggas couldn't take it in
that bubble. These niggas, these niggas so up to the risk.
These niggas buy one hundred dollars cup cup of coffee
from Jimmy Butler, and I saw that coffee tasted like
hot garbage. That's what I'm saying. This is what they're
doing there. They couldn't find no white women in there.

(01:47:31):
They was in there stretching the eyeballs.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
Out, applausible with dot coach tripping. I grew up in
the neighborhood where some of the most famous street races happened.
You're missing out, I tried to tell him. I used
to be over there all the time. I'm happy for that.
They looking at Ben Simmons, I would loving him that
being the Knicks they're looking at to come off the.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
Bench, they better than not.

Speaker 7 (01:47:54):
No, they it's between Indiana Patians and the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
I'm said, he about to sign in fifteen minutes. Thank you,
thank you? Brother? Hey, who my man? What should never get.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
Lebron followed, Yes, Metro Mitro is a smart man.

Speaker 5 (01:48:10):
I knew it. I would.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
I knew it within the first ten minutes of him talking.

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
I said, that man, he clears multiple waivers and he's
deciding between the Lakers and patients for multiple reports.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Yeah, niggas about if you want his legacy to be
a legacy.

Speaker 8 (01:48:24):
He's gonna go to l A, go to the Pacers
and become the next Reggie Miller or the next fucking
up the last thing, the last Sea Center they had
for ten seasons ended up being Miles Turner. Do you
want to be the next Mouse Huner? I'll be honest,
and it's got rid of you for nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
A Laker at heart, No, you're not. I am the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
No, I hate Lebron James. The Lakers hate Lebron James fan.
But the point I'm saying to you is, if you
want to get to the championship, where would you have
to go to? Patients of the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
The Lakers really so.

Speaker 11 (01:48:55):
Yourself, I've been getting lobs and picture.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
Oh so you mean if you want to just get
stats and for twenty.

Speaker 11 (01:49:00):
I said we're gonna have the number one and number
three picks from the So you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
You said it over you said it wasn't West, That's
what this read.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
Then Courtland got with it eight and yuh you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
Said it in a so hard West.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
You were ready to go with a team that got
bounced out in the general suite versus the team that
went to the Eastern Conference finals, and what they.

Speaker 8 (01:49:20):
Starting without they starting point guard. They starting to part
guard with Halliburton out for the whole season. Yes, I'm
gonna go with the I'm gonna know what the nigga
who made it to the Western Conference I mean to
the finals two years ago with less?

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Yeah, I'm gonna go him if I go DeAndre? What
you mean with less? He had?

Speaker 8 (01:49:37):
So you think Lebron James DeAndre Aiden, it's Lebron James
a year thirty. He's still gonna go average twenty four
and it ain't a Talian point.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
What are you talking? I'm just saying, So, okay, hold up,
would you take out a bunch of people?

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
You tell me?

Speaker 8 (01:49:49):
So, you tell me right now, You're gonna You're gonna
lose a lot of niggas right now on your basketball knowledge.
If you tell, if you say that you take would
you take Lebron James or would you take the three
man at in Denver when Luka within three?

Speaker 5 (01:50:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Who wasn't it was?

Speaker 5 (01:50:03):
Who was it?

Speaker 4 (01:50:05):
Car?

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
He went to the finals. Who are the three men
in the end? Finishman? No, he's talking about in Dallas?
Then Dallas when he went to the finish.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
No, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
Third best player. All that cool.

Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
I'm just listening. I would rather your identity fits. What's
your identity?

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
One thing I like about the Lakers. They got a shooter,
They're trying to have offense. They not getting no defenders.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Cool, run everybody floor.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
But your problem is with Luca doncis your ass ain't
gonna be at a run. So you got Lebron in
year twenty four running ain't quite what it used to be, right,
and then you got Luka donceons who hate to run.
So I do agree with what they're doing. They are
shaping the Lakers offense and pure offense. They don't have
no defense. Ain't nobody getting no stops, that's for sure.

Speaker 8 (01:50:48):
So you want to go to the Pacers. So you
want him to go to the pace. How many championship?
I'm not asking him to go.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
I'm that isn't one championship you want to go to
organization don't even know championship.

Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
But you talked about the rockets.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
But you're telling me this is hilarious what I said
a seven at seven. We're gonna do that sh it
this week because the glasses gotta get talking talking to
and I got my whole mess together. Okay, yeah, yeah,
we're ready to go this week.

Speaker 5 (01:51:20):
Sir uh.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Much love of y'all, will see y'all Friday. We need
to talk Friday about are we gonna do the dinner
table or the lunch out.

Speaker 8 (01:51:30):
I'm gonna throw this out here, maybe because I think
Glasses got some kind of affinity with the with the
lunch table.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
I think he don't want to let it go, and
I get that I might.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
I might just let it go though, that's just people
go to the dinner table. They already said they come
to the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
Table with the move. I mean, but maybe we could
do one lunch table a week.

Speaker 5 (01:51:50):
Table was looking like last night it was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
It was cool.

Speaker 5 (01:51:54):
I mean the number like.

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
It was. It was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
Like I think, I'm thinking.

Speaker 8 (01:52:00):
My suggestion is maybe two dinner not two dinner tables
and a lunch table, so we can still we can
still do a lunch table.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 7 (01:52:08):
We'll talk about a Friday. Much love to y'all y'all Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
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