Didn't I Tell Y'all Drake's Lawsuit Would Ruin Hip Hop

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(03:23):
shut out to Fats no cub, what's the deal? Killer care?
What's up my boy? Derek teeth Man, I appreciate you, Teeth.
We gotta get cracking. Dre Tolo's haddening for me? Tony Trap,
I'm waiting on you, my boy. What's happening? Cud Champ Champ,
I'm finna get on it. You're finna talk Tree, Sherry,
thank you for reminding me today. Amber Ravenes, Yeah, you

(03:44):
here for it. It's gonna happen today. Uh, Game a
hole for putting no man. Look, I'll be honest. What
up Donnie back y'all game made his list. I thought

(04:04):
that was funny that that list, you know, what I'm saying,
like really pissed him off. But you know what, I
do feel bad for Chuck, you know what I mean,
Like a lot of people feel like I got this
saw spot for Chuck, and I probably do. You know
what I mean, Like Chuck is really somebody that's instrumental

(04:24):
in me changing my life. Like if y'all knew how
much I'm like, I probably be in prison for life,
you know what I'm saying. And don't get me wrong,
Chuck wasn't necessarily the most instrumental part of me becoming
a part of Black Wall Street and getting me the
look that I needed to get record deals and make
millions of dollars, you know, Shout out to face and
g Rid and Fox sat rest in peace. They were

(04:45):
like big. But Chuck could have easily kind of stopped it.
I mean, he could have stopped it, you know what
I'm saying. And I still think he owed me a
Black Wall Street change. So if you if you in
this comments and you talk shit, be like Lasser said,
you still on in that Black Wall Street chain. I
still deserve it. Bought everybody change didn't buy me one,

(05:07):
which is cool, you know what I mean, Like we
ain't they one putnance. But over the years, you know,
I've grown more fonder and appreciative, you know what I mean.
I was just as appreciative then, but I've even grown
more fonder and appreciative of things that he did for me,
you know what i mean, getting on my first album
when he was on fire, you know what I mean.
So I don't have to kind of look at him

(05:29):
crazy for the stuff that didn't happen. I focus on
the things he did do. He did jump on two hundred,
he did rap on therapy session, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
He did allow me to use his brand that he
was like bleeding to make crack, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm always going to have a soft spot, no
different than Dot you know what I mean. Kendrick or
j Rock or Q or Top or Bishop Lemon or Problem.
These are my guys, you know what I mean. When
I was on that journey to change my life, you know,

(05:58):
they was right there with me. So I'm going to
give Chuck a lot more lead way than y'all, do
you know what I mean? And I understand his frustrations,
you know what I mean. I really do bro like
Chuck deserves to be treated a lot better than hip hop,

(06:19):
especially West Coast hip hop, treats him. Now we can
start talking about his marketing antics. You know, you can
go through that. You know, you can go down that
rabbit hole. I totally understand, you know what I mean,
some things I don't agree with, but I've watched him
do these things and they be successful. Like I've watched

(06:40):
him do these things and they be successful. Dog Like,
I've watched him do things that I don't agree with
and they're successful. So how am I to challenge, you
know what I mean, his knowledge of marketing? When this
motherfucker really sold five hundred thousand records the first week,
When he built a career just like us, Like he

(07:02):
built the career out of nothing, you know what I mean,
positioned himself to do three four million albums on his
debut album. You know what I mean, Like platinum in
multiple countries. It's like six times platinums between countries. It's
three times platinum in America, Platinum in this country, platinum
in this country, platinum in this country. You know what
I'm saying? How could I really challenge his marketing mind?

(07:26):
You know what I mean? Even if I don't agree,
like I didn't necessarily agree with the song about Beyonce Mama,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
He got the Tina sample. He called in and got
the Tina sample, you know what I'm saying from Kanye,
and then that was the teen that he wanted to
rap about. So I get why, and I get why
most people build the way they feel like. I totally

(07:56):
understand it. I totally get it. I get why y'all
be mad at Chuck. I totally understand it. But I
think he took his time and put together a list
of one hundred artists from southern California, and it's worth
looking at, you know what I mean. And dude could
really be a journalist. Chuck is smart Like Chuck Mike

(08:18):
act crazy, you know what I'm saying, But he's really like,
he really smart and he know how to write. So
for him to take his time to put together a
list of one hundred artists from southern California, that was
a lot. And I know the complex list is what
pushed him to do it. You feel me, But you
know he didn't like that, and I understand he didn't
want it. One of the biggest things. I know he

(08:40):
didn't want to be behind nip. You know what I mean, Like, Hey,
g G one cool question. Hey what are people mad about?
Because I don't know exactly what they med about when
you talked about it, people aren't mad. I heard you
say somebody called him a whole or something. No killer
keV was saying because he put me on the list
at sixty one. Oh okay, that was some punk ass shit.

(09:01):
But okay, So the initial thing people was tripping with
Chuck about was when he said Ice Tea is not
a Los Angeles artist. Like that was Tucker's out of line,
flat out you know what I'm saying, Like I said
that flat out. I really didn't get into the I
did defind his position on where he should be on

(09:23):
the list, But where do you put itself at on
the list? Well, so the first list Complex put out
a list. Complex is a blog error site. Everything about
them is blog eraror okay, you know what I mean,
Like I don't really look at Complex opinion. You know,
I mean, no, no disrespect to Complex, but as you

(09:45):
shouldn't know, it's like y'all don't really have no route
into streets. Our stuff is like computer rappers, I mean
or legends only the things overly celebrated, or only the
things on computers, so they don't they can never measure
cultural in practice.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
It's almost like these people like that putting out lists
for shock value at this point, because they list be
so out of pocket, out of line, where it's almost
like they putting them out to make conversation.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I think they be genuinely serious. You think they'd be serious.
You think, but if you if you was a college
kid and you're talking about West Coast Street, urban cultured,
artistic expression of it, it might you might have missed something.
So that's what I remember real time, me and Nip
being on the phone talking about Complex and how whack
he hated complex and Complex was bullshit, like he hated complex.

(10:38):
I think they repaired their relationship, but Nip hated complex,
he hated act, he hated the blog era, but eventually
he figured out how to make it his own.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Got you.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Eventually he figured out how to make a blog era in.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
His own So Complex put out budget.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I don't think Bush. I think they put out their
perspectives on When you you look at the list, is.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
You like you kind of like yeah, yeah, When I've
seen that list. When I've seen that list, you know,
I scrolled through the whole list and to see wh
he was gonna be at. Right as soon as I
ain't see you on the list, I said, I said, yeah, bro, yeah,
how many people is on the list?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
But look before because I don't want to I don't
want it to be about that, Like, that's not complex. No,
this is not humility, and you don't make it a
little at all. There's no humility. I really really be
staying this dog. Something happened when the computer took over

(11:55):
hip hop. I gotta look at this list. I gotta
go look now, I gotta go look. I gotta see.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Who's in these They got a blue face number fifty.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh man, I like, okay, okay, so I'm going to
defend Complex. I'm going to Defendlogy because I'm going to
defend Complex.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Okay, this is crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
But I can't do number forgive me. Shout out to
the lunch table, bro, I can't do nothing. Keep it real.
It's hard for me. I'm arguing with my people's about marketing,
my team and we know we need to market and
I'm struggling, like, yeah, I can pull this off. But
I hate to take advantage of people's ignorance, Like I
don't like that, Like, like I just wish they could

(12:44):
see the genuine article. But it's like y'all refuse to
see it. That's why I mean, that's why I have
to defend Chuck Trapp, because it's like I have to
defend the gen Like I get why he has to
do the things he do, Bro, because people cannot see
the genuine article. Shout out to sonic entis glasses political?
I am not political?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Is not political.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I'm not political at all. He diplomatic. He's not political.
He's a diplomat. He's not He's not.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I'm not at all. And I'm not creating the plum.
I don't think I need complex anything. I don't reach
out to complex. There's no I'm just being honest. What happened, bro,
when the computer took over the Internet. Remember, these are
kids that don't come from where we're from. They're not
from where we're from. They're kids who liked hip hop,
the music, the art. They don't know about. They can't

(13:40):
measure cultural impact. They don't know what, let's say, a
Glasses malone meant to the community. They don't know that
they're not from it, Like who is number forty nine? Trap?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
No, man, this is not this is okay, we're not
gonna talk about that. But for the whole time. But
I didn't know about this. This is news to me.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
You know, I've been waiting today. I've been waiting for today.
I'm glad you.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
God damn, I'm not saying that. He's not saying.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Okay, know he's not humble, but he he's humble. He
has humble times, and this is one of the times
my humility humility.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I've been telling Trap forever that you did not look
down that. Listen.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
It was like, what the what the.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Coach? Coach?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Here you go, coach coming in number fifty, we got
bum ass blue face. Okay, bro listen, man, listen all right.
So then coming in I like, I like blue coming
in number for you.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Now we got blue.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
That was I like blue, lower than that the blue fire.
I like blue. All right, So we got coming in
number blue. Dope, you don't know bl blue. It was blue,
and somebody else a blowing next time, blowing next time
a combination. Then you got forty eight. You got Gee

(15:01):
Perrico at forty Eightprico good.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I like Rico a right on the list. Then you
got what's his name, Old jez Oh g Z at
forty seven. Yeah, yeah, old g Z at forty seven.
This short line, all right, shore line, you're going out.
You're going out of twenty even they went crazy. I
can't how the fuck is croocket forty six looking at Yeah,

(15:31):
that's crazy, not forty six. I put it out of
put criokeets somewhere like twenty five. All of that stuff,
we ain't gotta go through. It ain't gotta go through
this chicken. I don't know what evidence is evidence.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
The game they had game at eleven and they had
nip at ten. That's to me obvious that that was
bothering him.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Oh but you, like you said, these people are out
of the culture, and I feel like I feel like
nick is A is a out of the culture. Pick though,
like for person who's not of the culture, don't I
feel like you know that's.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
And that's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to defend,
not saying or defend it. I'm saying I understand why
you asking them to understand me, Like nigga, I'm a
cultural phenom, but not on the list though.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
G Listen, think about how much stuff has happened since
Complex started. Irritation over Just listen, think about how much
stuff blue in them is blue and exile their computer guys,
forgive me blue. Like, I'm not talking about the homie.
I'm saying they audience goes to the it's through the computer.
They're blog kind of rappers, like I'm a street rapper.

(16:38):
Oh gz Benish Shoreline is a platinum group from LA.
That's all a blog era group. But when did they
come out twenty like thirteen or fourteen? Man, you got
gold records, Bro, Yeah, but that's not they got I'm saying.

(16:59):
But I'm saying they're things. Their things, bro, is about
what they know from the blog or legends, legends. They
only know that they like to be honest, Bro. There
was a moment with that whole New West movement, Bro,
Like people didn't really get there. Make the list, Yeah,
the lists he made.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Game he made game lists, he made games.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Tela made uh tilor made complex list?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Okay, m still complex though I don't care. Yeah, but
I'm not look said that trap Brass said there not
not glass You want to be political political.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's not I'm not saying because I'm worried about it.
I'm saying I just don't feel that energy.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
So you think you think Game is man because he
came out eleven and they came in a team. You
can get a little salt.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, yeah, you know what.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I think. I think that they did that shit on
purpose though, to get a reaction. They know that they
know how out of anybody that was gonna let the list,
and they did this, and they purposely put him but
right behind one behind Game. They knew Game was gonna react.
But you gotta take advantage of that right there though.
That's what I said. I told him.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Try and we I gotta give you my number, bro,
because I need to know about this like that. See,
he didn't hit me up. He not gonna He didn't
tell me nothing about this. This is nonsense.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I sent that ship to him. He answered me back
two days.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Here to be I would live and been texting like that.
Ain't the title, yo, Bro?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I streamed on this right listen. I've seen him there,
I said, Joe. I texted Nigga Complex on some bullshit.
I spoke to him probably five times after that he
liked the comment. He liked the he liked the text.
Two days later, he wanted he wanted to chill with it, Like, Yo,
I know he was hot.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I know he was not hot. Again, honest with you,
I'm not hot, bro, Like I'm not upset. Remember like
in two thousand and ten to twenty twenty, I didn't
put out a bunch of music. The blog ear didn't
put out a bunch of music in that time. I
was learning the game. Like I'm look, I'm one of
the few. Trust me. If I don't like somebody, I'll

(19:06):
tell y'all I don't like somebody straight up, like I'll
be like, I'm not fucking with them. But honestly, I
get it. I always talked shit about the blog air
because I didn't have a lot of respect for the
blog air period. So like, I don't say fuck the
blog air, but I don't really got respect for that,
because again, you asking a bunch of college and computer
kids to understand exactly what I do. And I am

(19:27):
from the depths of the mud. It's different. They ain't
got nobody from the depth and the MUDs in the
top fifty, they ain't gonna have nobody from two thousand
and six to twenty ten in that motherfucker fuck. No,
they don't have problem on the list the list, no
at all. No, not on a fifty at all because

(19:49):
problem is a street rapper. Problem music was about translated
to the party where we really party.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
That list is about.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
People that matter on the computer. I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Look, I gotta get my hands on this list.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
They gotta ever Last, They gotta ever Last on the list.
Prime example. Shout out to the OG. I'm not even
saying ever Last couldn't make the listgend Last is a legend.
Like so I said, y'all gotta realize, right when we
talk about this hip hop ship, we be talking about
straight up street urban culture. Like it's different. That is

(20:27):
computer complex is computer rappers complex ruppers.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
They got Lady of Range on the list, but from
my understanding, Lady Range from from Virginia always yeah, I
don't know how they did that right there, that's how
you know.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's you know, they wasn't.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Informed what numbers forty one, So you got in the top.
So you got a Virginia mm hm m hm.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
So but no, no, don't ever last was a part
of jump.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Uh uh the house page legend. He elect we just
did some ship now like that is.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So I don't I didn't take that. I don't take
that personal. Even games List Game having me sixties, I
don't care, Like I'm really I'm not talking ship to
a top hundred. He did one hundred people and he
got so he got to out of the top fifty
then too. Yes, yeah, and I would be a problem.

(21:27):
So but again, like honestly, I.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Chat g B T the Gameless. I'm just gonna say
that right there. I don't think that list himself though.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'm just saying I.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Told my beau because I came on here and we
got into it about me talking about I said, I'm
not gonna talk about No West those people.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So I'm gonna beleed this angle lot.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
But bro, if I didn't tell myself that, I'd be
saying some wild ship right now, I think Nigga says
some ship. What you man? I think Game and this
is I like Game as an artist. I think he's dope.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I think he ain't got top to top five best
catalog and hip hop.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
To me, I'm about catalog and hip hop. But but
he definitely could rap.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
He's a super dope rapper, and people be thinking, I'll
talk a wild because.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I just like shock about you. I talk wold because
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
But I think that game.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
He'd be doing some some some some some lame ship Bro,
Like I.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Just again, I think marketing, Bro, marketing. You think it's marketing,
marketing some of the stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Even he'd be laughing. It'd be like anti marketing stuff
he do. Like, I have so much respect for game.
When he first came out, I love games because you
didn't know him. And then he started talking and he
started doing this weird stuff. I had to fall back, like,
what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Because but what put him in position was marketing. He
marked the nigga is like he's a step below yay
when it comes to marketing.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I think I was thinking of the same thing, just like.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
He does. Give me that y marketing school.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
What would you call that marketing staff? Right there?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Though? That just really marked listen, okay right now? The
shock marketing why I push the T came out and
they told the story about this death jam stuff. That's
marketing a little bit into something in some ways. I mean, yes,
I think I think he's got games should be looked

(23:29):
at as an allegend.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I think he is a legend, but I think Game
should be looked at as one of those, uh, one
of those mythical legends. Almost at this point in time,
I think people took a game kind of corny.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Now, yeah, I can see why people could say that,
but I'm saying it's like it's really a reflection of y'all.
He under like, he understands that this is gonna sound crazy.
I'll never verify with him, but I'll ask him after
he understands y'all can't see authenticity, so he unders Nip
understands authenticity. You you think Nip Nip seemed like I

(24:06):
you know, he didn't have a lot of time to
really but put out his first project. Me and Nick
put out our first project in the same year, two
thousand and five.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
But people get on. Some people ain't get on.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Better to start moving his stuff into blog. But did
you feel like Nick lost Nick? Though?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
When he was doing this ship.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
When I listened to music and I've seen Nip move around,
he still seemed like a crypt to me, Like he
still seemed like gamed it. I forgot game. Game just
seemed like he did not forget game was no Internet blood.
I don't Internet blood to me, bro, I mean, wain't

(24:44):
a little bit. No, no, no, I don't agree with that.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So I think when people put he put niggas out
here on you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
When people can't control people like artists, like their puppets,
then they kind of get mad, like if somebody not
saying exactly the things you want. So there's two type
of people. I was telling the homie champions, and he
got mad at me. Me and Chappin arguing, right me,
it's my people from Alabama. Me and Champin arguing, I'm
telling him all these people you see talking shit about
gang bankers but saying they still need the gang bang,

(25:16):
that's your problem. Like you, You're like, he's upset at
me because I'm like, y'all, I'm from Seventh Street. Watch
I see all the greatness in gang banging. I do
notice the problems, but then I've solved the problems in
my mind and with my peoples, so I'm proud about
where I came from. He seems to want to subscribe
more to people talking shit about gang banging, but they're

(25:36):
still gang bangers. He can't even see right off the
back that that person is selling him some bullshit. Like
if somebody talking shit about something and then they like,
but I'm still one something is wrong with you and
you're fucking fraud.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Okay, So what do you think game approach was at this?
Do you think he was kind of like, I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
I get how you can, how you got to try
to transition a little bit to stay with the times.
But do you you don't think he kind of went
a little too far left to trade with the times.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I mean like he kind of lost his off. He
truck made some decisions that cost him some of the
people that make the best records in the history of
the music business. So when he was just left to
try to make records himself, he didn't have enough experience
in my mind, in my belief, Now, does he know
this it's different. Does he know that he needed more
help to make records? You know, when he traded dre

(26:28):
and fifty N I thought he thought he could do it,
right in my mind, well I knew because I was
around at the time. He did do it. Though he
did do it not quite like they did it the
first time. I mean, you can't.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
You can't match what you can't match the legend liked.
But he came back around that on that, on that
Doctor's Advocate. He came back around with some records though.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
But you're talking about the critical acclaim right, how people
felt about it, about the time, the last and the
lasting power, the last power. Okay, No, I'm talking about
the records. I'm talking about the fact that this ship
is still about a song, and a song will take
your ass further than everything. But when the song is
not going, all you have is marketing.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
But okay, let's think.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Okay, the story, So who you think right now is
is in a nas or game like when you think
about who the.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
But when when?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
When games?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
We know he wasn't I promise you can't coast.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Cube. Okay, but listen real quick, but listen what I'm saying.
What you're saying, game had to market himself a lot
more because the records were wasn't taking him places, they
wasn't keeping him in the public's So you think it
was he wasn't when it was unit. No, that's when
he had the records. What's what's underrated in this whole

(28:10):
scheme is records, right, the records so menary. He didn't
have to overmarket himself after that because the songs did
it you know what I mean? Uh, Hated the Love
It is a huge record. I think it did it
go number one or it went top five or something. Yeah,
he had all these huge songs, these big, big, big records,

(28:35):
so he didn't have to market himself by the time
he got to The Doctor's Advocate. Right, the records aren't
as big, right, he don't have the Hated the Love It,
He don't have that One Blood went, that One Blood
went though, I don't know that one one Blood. Yeah,
but one Blood performed worse right than every song on

(28:56):
the documentary.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
What happum was I couldn't get far on that was
on the documentary, that was on No, that was on
Doctor's Advocate.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
These are songs that he was trying to match the
success of documentary by himself. He didn't success, So he
had to market himself to become a brand in the
public's eye because the records didn't do it. So again
like yes, I could be hyper critical of game and
saying how he presented his brand and blah blah blah

(29:28):
from my perspective, But and the fans could talk ship.
Oh man, I hate the only reason you fucking know
how whose game is because all the ship he did?
The fact or you think that that's a fact trap.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I agree with that he got something, he had all
the big records.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Something has to I know, people from twenty years.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
But so far though, Man, you've got to have something
else that goes along with the music, a storyline or.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Records, especially if you don't have to Where do y'all think?
Where do y'all think? What is happening around? So? What
do y'all think? That the theatric got Game? The reason,
he's the reason right now, the reason we're talking to
about it right now is because of theatrics.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, okay, so we so we're talking about Game because
of theatrics. But is this gonna move the needle for
games brand?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
But that that he's actually relevant because of this? Yeah, yeah,
bron had a record in fucking years. Listen, listen.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
It gotta be a little bit more that comes along
within the artists other than just the music. So like nowadays,
people want to know, People want to know. People want
to know the type of person you are. If you're
an asshole, whether you're a good person whatever you are,
or they want to know now that they want to
know who you are. Your music is gonna get you
through the door. But but the walk up the steps, though,
you gotta you gotta show him who you are. Though,

(30:54):
you know what I'm saying like that, So that's the way.
I do agree with that trap. I agree with you, But.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
We got a bunch of big rappers out right now
who still like do you feel like Naves went crazy?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Did weird? Okay? No, no, no, no, no, no, y'all
The music only get you so far.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
He had, all right, hold on, let me get a quick,
let me get it real quick, right, look at a
real quick. Let me get a quick, real quick, real quick.
I much play time, some one real quick. Nas reinvented
himself on the second half of his career by going
to the front cover of his album holding the wedding
dress that his wife that left them ward at the wedding.
You know what I'm saying, he gave them.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
He gave that is an antic? Is that a game atic?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Just just listen? Coach Game had one album with hit
Records and then no other album, would hit records. Get
your hits up. That's hard. I know it's hard, but dude,
make hits. And but like you don't have the luxury,
it's easy for us to sit on this. So what
about Kanye why he has a he can't make a record? Glass?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Man, I'm gonna say something around. I'm gonna say this
because of the information I was that I was told.
I ain't gonna say I'm told by it might be
a reason why he never had another hit record. Though
you know what I'm saying. You know, you know, you
know what the fuck he did.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
But that's not why he didn't have a hit record.
That's not take a lot to take a lot with them,
all right, that's not why he didn't have a hit record.
The niggas matter, like, listen, make record. I get it. Man,
we be thinking somebody a dope m c he do
you be thinking somebody popular that don't got nothing to
do with making no record? Man, making the record is hard.

(32:38):
It's fifty cents and Drake making records. It's different when
you just this guy that can m see and then
you go from fifty and doctor Drake making records with
you to where you gotta make records.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Are you believe it's no button? You believe it's no
button in the industry.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, it's a button to give you a shot. But
if your record ain't no record, that ship gonna fall
flat as fuck. And everybody ain't pressing a button for everybody,
you actually would have to have a record, right Listen.
It was a pussy Cat Dolls. They pressed the button
and it popped off and the mother fucking went flat.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
They're not doing that for everybody. The song with Drake
was a record. The song with Drake was a record.
Why the fuck that didn't go that was?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
It wasn't that shit? That shit wouldn't be able to
mix with no song on the West Coast. If the
West Coast is ninety percent mix show, that song was
so fucking slow it couldn't even mix. I'm telling y'all
the truth, Like y'all, list that's what saying.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
You know, I don't know about that science part of it, but.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's but again, it's not science. It's hip hop. It's
d jaying, right, d Jan. If ninety percent of the
West Coast is all rhythmic radio and it's all mixed shows,
the songs that are playing the most mixed together. They
mixed together. That's why most West Coast hits, if you
do your homework, gonna be somewhere between ninety and one
hundred bpm. Just do your homework.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
But it's not a sound from the West Coast though.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
It's not a sound that's a temple. It's a pace
of life. That's why I keep telling y'all how we live,
heartbeats per minute, how we live.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I try to get them just in coach, trying to
get them. I trying to get them just in coach.
You've seen that, right with out of that.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
A million ways you can make a ninety five bpm song.
A million ways you can make it funky, soulful, bluesy,
and that shit all all worked because it could mix
long as the record stick. Okay, so we got that.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
How what do you think about not making a so
you so you so you're saying you're you understand that
you didn't make the complex top fifty.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
You get it.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
You understand that, and game having you sixty whatever, sixty one?
You understand that also? Yeah, you get that too?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
No, yeah bro you yeah, bro. I'm being honest with y'all. Man,
I could see how somebody did that. I'm I'm I'm hard,
I'm harsh on judging. I look at my own career
like them. I missed this window from eight from two thousand,
I get that. To twenty nineteen, I get that.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I get you.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
But you dropped White Lightning. What you mean, No, it's
not that. So listen. I dropped music from two thousand
and five to twenty eleven, and then I went into
this whole sabbatico of learning hip hop. So in between
that time only dropped Glass House Won and Glasshouse two.
So from twenty eleven to two thousand and nineteen to
Tupac Muns Die, I dropped two projects in six seven,

(35:15):
eight years and in the middle of the blog era.
Everything we looking at right now is from the blog era.
The people that's making it now is the blog Ara okay,
And I get all that, bro.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
And my thing is when you look it back on
your career and you say, oh, man, I had it
had a chance to be top ten, you know I
could see you saying that, like, man, I probably missed
a couple opportunity where I could have probably been top ten,
top fifteen, but out of the top fifty is a little.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Bit because because again you're talking about from before two
thousand and five. It's like, it's twenty legends. You gotta
put there. It's twenty twenty five legends. You gotta put
there before two thousand and five. So you come out
chuck in before. Look what you gotta put there. Got
to put Rent there. You gotta put Tila there. You

(36:04):
gotta put Ton who, Yeah, he did, I know he did.
I'm sure he did. You gotta put you gotta put
Cube there. You gotta put you gotta put ice Tea there.
You gotta like, let's just go back.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
To check the list I put in the chest. Somebody
checked the list, please from you got it?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Like, let's go from the beginning. You gotta put ice
Tea there. You gotta put tone Loak there. You gotta
put Teyla there. You gotta put Eric Easy there. You
gotta put Dre there. You gotta put Wren there. You
gotta put Cube there. Right, you gotta put Quick there. Right,
we're still in the damn eighties. We're still in the eighties.
That's eight Now we're goinna go to the nineties. Okay,

(36:46):
So right, you gotta put dog there. You gotta put
corrupt there. You gotta put dash there on. We gotta
put corrupt there. Yes, yeah, corrupt Street is a mother
U dog fool. No, No, there got going that b.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Look, I'm not talking about this body of work. I'm
not talking about his body of work. I'm saying, we
just corrupt West Coast nigga.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yes, that's what they've been doing though, coach like somebody.
I think I think Game might have said that about
ice T.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
But you can't do that. You can't take that. You
can't So we're taking.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Michael Jordan and New York thing. Hey, we're taking Michael
Ordan New York. I'm saying you know that right now.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I'm saying, and if that's what he claiming, but I'm saying,
these are people that are West Coast m seeds. Even
if they're lineage brought them up in multiple places, they're
West Coast m seeds.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Okay, Look, I have no problem you putting crushed. I'm
just asking the question of corrupt there. I'm just asking
a question. I love corrupt, and I look at what
the West Coast.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
I'm just saying, and door knows when you get through
the nineties, like it's twenty five people pre two thousand
and five, you gotta put there. And then you're talking
about the blog girl where there's rapping, like there's so
much rap happening, So I could get how you can
get to fifty nine's and not say glasses loan if
you're coming.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
I feel like it's disrespectful to put some of these
newer guys because that's all they know.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Though they don't know nothing else. They don't know nothing else.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
It's and like I said, I haven't seen a list,
so I don't want to just say crazy, but as
the Complex Lists list, I could kind of I understand
the pastor you given the Complex list, but uh, chuck,
somebody who was a real EMC, a real West Coast dude.
He seemed like his list would have been a little

(38:23):
you know what I'm saying, Like he probably should have
went down the list and been like.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
All right, man, he gotta be here, he gotta be here,
he gotta be here, he gotta be here. You know,
I don't think that was an important part the number
as much as him putting together fifty people that matter
to him.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Okay, So you don't think he just okay, So you
just think he's throwing fifty people out there, and he
was like, I.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Mean, it's just got this. Listen, man, I saw that
down there. That's crazy. I meant to tell y'all that
what man, let me read this ship to you. This
nigga got at Yeah, he's so fucking cold, bro, pushing
tea man that she was crazy. You what he saying?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Sad? Check sending the chat? Just now what he saying?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Check? Hold up? I posted it. Hold on. Nigga said
the nigga was weak, and he know how you look
at weak people.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
They caught him weak.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Okay, it was way worse than that. Let me find
that ship, Caro that that that shit is crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I mean I don't, I don't. I don't know how
I feel about you. Know what I'm saying. You stuck
around with a nigga. When a nigga. When I'm saying, nigga,
put you on, but now or something, you start talking
crazy about the nigga.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
No, no, listen. It's usually invigorating to hear pushing talking ship,
but there's something sad about seeing such a prolific partnership
in like this. We made some great ship, Bro. We
did push acknowledges but let me tell you something. He's
a genius and his intuition is even more genius level. Right.
But that's why me and him don't get along, because

(39:51):
he sees through my fakeness with him. He knows I
think he's a man. He knows it, and that's why
we can't deal with each other. No more. That's why
me and him don't clear because he knows that I
really really what I really really think of him. He
showed me the weakest side of him, and he knows
how I think of weak people. I love that. Shout

(40:13):
out to Nashaun Holmes, thank you for that five dollars,
my boy, people don't like Chucks antics would shape how
people view him as an artist. Also, this is Aubrey
playing chess. Aubrey playing chess. This bring up for what
what the hell? But but that's my issue is if

(40:34):
people seeing his antique shaping him, that's just another conversation.
Shout out to Nick, thank you for that five dollars. Nick,
I'm gonna get on that merch Wednesday forgive me salute
g and LUTs table no SBR spider look or TF
boatlift no, no, no, no, you know ever pret So

(40:59):
what I'm saying, it's like, thank y'all for that too, man,
I appreciate that, sou.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Like.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
As far as the list goes, I look at complex
like kind of the computer kids figuring out who they
think made the difference in southern California. These fifty people
a computer kid probably don't know exactly what glasses does.
They don't know me outside of Tupac must die. They
don't know that good, they don't know certified, they don't
know none of that stuff that is different. You have
to be kind of outside should be making a list.

(41:28):
Then well that's the point people follow computer niggas because
computer niggas follow computer niggas.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
But I'm telling you, man, I really just feel like
people at this time of day, I feel like lists
are hot, are like the hot thing to do now.
I feel like everybody cite Everybody, magazine, everybody out there
making these lists. And then you get to these lists
and you look at them, you be like nah, And
I think that's the thing now, to make these lists
to where people look at them and have to debate
about it and have to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
And why would a nigga that's not a computer nigga
care about the list. That's my point, Like, that's what i'.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
You know these niggas care about these lists, nigga, Now
I don't you just said, Okay, well, I guess you
look at game like a computer nigga, right, I guess No.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
With Chuck's list, I'm looking at him like a nigga
mad that some computer lists told him where he placed
that in la?

Speaker 2 (42:11):
So you think he cared about the list, then he can't.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
But but Chuck, listen, you thual Kanye care about the list?
You know he do? Yes, hey drop a list like
but it's like I pride myself and being like, you know,
a man like not like saying they don't. I'm just
saying they care a lot what other people think. If
you're trying to tell you man, you are laugh through
the Mohicans, bro, Like it's not a lot of good brother,

(42:34):
what's handler.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Not a lot of not a lot of not a
lot of dudes? Like you're still running around here in
the game, bro, Like.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, but you can't be upset like you know you
to me, it's like I didn't even notice. I didn't
look at all the names on the list. I'm not
gonna lie to you I swear on Olivia's soul, bro Like,
I wouldn't look at all of that. The fact that
y'all think shout out to more gear. He said. Coach
is right. These lists are all for engagement. Is happening

(43:01):
in every single gim sports entertainment. Yeah you make the list,
But why do y'all not? I keep thinking this, right?
I keep explaining this to y'all, Yola Prime example, Yo,
I keep explaining this to y'all. You keep trying to
talk hip hop with a bunch of people that don't
know nothing about street urban coaching. You right, y'all not

(43:22):
listening to me. Y'all think I'm just hating a saying
some ship and I'm telling y'all something that's true. And
every day this ship gonna come, just like this ship
with Drake and this pushy t ship. I keep telling
y'all the same ship.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
But but even Michelle Obama got tired of the when
they go low we go high ship.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Like your ass ain't tired of this?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
You ain't you don't want to go low a little
bit on this ship, Like.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Hey man, you gotta take it to, you gotta take
it to when they go low we go lower. You
know what I'm saying like that, he don't he addresses it.
He dresses it, but I ain't know to the point
right now he's gonna address it and in the glasses
way though, and it's gonna be sophisticated, disrespectfully. You know

(44:08):
what I'm saying like that, though, you know what I'm saying,
I have been.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'm just saying I have been addressing this the whole time.
Y'all not listening to me. I'll be telling y'all the
whole time, y'all just not I be telling y'all. I'm like, bro,
I don't fuck with none of them blog era niggas
or none of that ship the niggas.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
That's my See what I'm saying, he do it. He's
gonna do it. He's gonna do it, coach, but he's
gonna do it in a way where it's like, but
I've been doing it. You know what I'm saying, classic
gangster way. You know what I'm saying like.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
That, A classy crip like he gotta like people think
I'll be trying to add geon. I'll be just trying
to give him little.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Nuts because you know what.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
I'm not, classic man, what he understand is this is
the Internet.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
This is the Internet. So why would he address the
ship with in the way of a real nigga dressing
you on the fake Internet. You know what I'm saying.
That's the way the ship go though, right there. You
know what I'm saying. So when it's time of addressing
with them the right way, the real way, that ain't
gonna do it like that, then I'm gonna do it. Yeah,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Complex and start to listen when I'm gonna say something,
all y'all gotta do. Like everybody know, I kind of
fuck with Flocko, right, I fuck with Flocko. I tell
when I talk to Flocko what I think of Flocko.
I'm not finna use my Twitter to be talking shit
about something flock O saying about with Flocko saying same
I feel with academics. I'm not finna be using my

(45:34):
motherfucker one hundred and forty characters to talk shit about
some nigga. When I see him and I talked to
him what I think and then he could tell me
his perspective, then that's why you make complex top fifty.
I get it. I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
The antics you went through the antics and ship.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Like that exactly. You gotta tell you gotta use I'm
not giving a nigga twelve. I'm not giving act no characters.
I'll give acts some vocal real life. Hey Act, you
know you're on some boyshit. Same with Floco. Hey man,
you know you're not hip hop? Would you sit down
and do an interview with that? Yes, I don't have.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
That happen.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
That's inevitable, but guess what, you will never get that
energy because in person is different. When you got to
see a nigga sitting across from you, and trust me,
one thing that hip hop people can tell right off
the rip or some people may be confused if you
say something I don't like, I'm gonahit you upside just so.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
You think he's gonna interview like how he interviewed What's
My Man from Chicago?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
It won't be n vince mensa mad. I should sme you, right,
I should smell out of you right now, But let
you know.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I'm not like. I'm not mad at I'm not mad.
The one thing I just if I talked to Act,
I would tell hey, stop talking about the hommy like that.
Stop talking about Nip like that.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Don't do that, don't play with that. That's not to be.
If I said I'm gonna do what I want to do,
then were gonna squabble. We're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
We're going through.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
It's better than it's better. But I don't think he's
gonna disrespect a man asking of something of him. Now,
if I'm if I be like, first off, I wouldn't
be like gonna bitch that nigga you shaid, I wouldn't
because at that point I just meet you. But I'm saying, hey,
you need to know this real for us. This ain't
no joke. I know this is a rapper and y'all
think this cool, but this we're not gonna play about
the hommie like we're not gonna play about in.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Acting day though.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
He's setting gonna fight souls. Yeah, I noticed the thing.
If I have an issue with what Act does is
how he talks about Nip. That's my issue. That's my punner.
Don't talk about my punnit like that because you didn't
say that punk assh it when he's a lot because
he grabs you. He was saying all kinds of ship

(47:50):
about you in real time, nigga, and he didn't say
nothing because you knew at that time the homemy would
have got at you. Don't wait till the homie died,
feel me and and try to play with his name
because you think we right here it. We're just not
gonna play about that. That's all I'm saying. I'm not
mad at the nigga. I think he called himself doing
what he thinks, but this ain't the one to play
with play with. Some other niggas don't play with this one.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Well, I think with this last one that they did though,
it wasn't really like on him. I think what he's
doing right now with old Boy though, he let the
old boy line him up and to talk talk some
bullshit about him though, And that's what I've seen within
the whole last situation that happened. Like, Bro, you ain't
have to bring that content to that man. Man that
may want to report on that ship. But he did
it though, so you can't blame him.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
About them doing their thing. That's their thing. I don't
watch that ship unless it got some do with me.
So again I'm blaming the public. Everybody talking about with
antics nigga is because y'all like antics, nigga. That's why
niggas do antics, because y'all don't see nothing without antics.
Y'all couldn't tell authenticity. I agree with you. I agree
with you, So it's like you you have to like

(48:55):
I hear people all the day to people all day
tweeting me saying, oh, and you need to check this nigga.
You can't check nobody on Twitter. Bro, how you gonna
check a nigga? What I'm gonna tweet you some tough shit.
Then you're gonna say something out of line. You're gonna
say something too far. And I don't talk like that.
So if you say something like fuck my mama or
I don't talk like I don't know your mama. But
now you far enough away to where I can't get

(49:17):
to you, I'm not I'm not an internet nigga trying
to outmatch you will fuck your dead grandmother and your
I don't talk to humans like that. But if you
say some shit like that to me my face, nigga,
you gonna smell my column. Nigga gonna see right now,
it ain't gonna be no question. So that's how I
present myself. But the Internet only understands niggas who sit
there and argue with each other, who screaming their cameras.

(49:38):
I used to always tease Trap. I used to tell
Charlotte Man. I used to tell being the same thing
these niggas is wrestlers. These niggas are over. Yeah. Look, brother,
when I see you, I'm going to That's how they
be talking into they phones like they wrestlers. And I'm
a real low I'm not with none of that old
shit like wrestling. Yes, but I'm not anna sure, but

(49:59):
I'm not a wrestler, So I'm not cutting a promo.
I'm not gonna be standing on my camera. Now. Look
act brother, you said this about Nipsey and and we
don't like that, and when I see you, I'm.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Not doing it.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Because you gotta be more people to do that though.
Problem So I get how the fans want to be entertained,
but did you not gonna like it when this should
go to four? Because it's gonna go too four.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
You don't think aver ather artist and an artist who
think he missed some opportunities along the way, or should
the probably said you don't think you should give the
fans a little bit what they want no yeahs.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
So listen, listen.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
There's gotta be authentic all things league.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
So I'll be honest right on my run coming up,
shut out to everybody who was ready to buy this single.
We push it back to the twenty fourth.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Forgive me.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I hate pushing it back. You are You are telling
this now only because Instagram was supposed to fix something
on the end and they didn't fix it. And I
don't want to try to wrestle if they don't fix it.
I can't average next year, ye, next year, y'all. This

(51:04):
is what fans do to you. Fans do that and
they make you feel bad. So then some artists rush
and throw their ship out and then they be looking
dumb and they not asking me what.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
The pre wanders will be up though? Right when the
pre owners go up, go on to ten?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
All right, right? Cool? Right? Look, Look, if listen, all
the people that support me, shut out to everybody at
the lunch table. We got fifteen hundred people watching this, yeah,
right right, total right. I'm saying, listen, if you follow
an artist, if you support an artist, I don't even
want to use the term fans. If you support artists,

(51:39):
let's say y'all support me, right. My job is to
go out and fuck ship up for you, so you
could tell your partner my nigga fucking ship up. That's
how I felt about that. My nigga fucking shit up.
That's that's our job, to go out and funck shuit up.
That's our job. So again, when I came out of

(52:00):
this whole market and shit, when I came out of
that whole sabbatago for that eight years and I put
out Tupaca Must Die, I had the same problem. My
Facebook got hacked. Some Indian companies start running pouring on it.
It took all hundred thousand of my followers. They ain't
never gave my page back and I had to break
my connection with my Instagram and my Facebook. So I
haven't been able to advertise on fates on Instagram since.

(52:24):
So with Twupac Must Die, I had two problems. Two
Pac Must Die. One YouTube wouldn't let me advertise. They
denied my ads. I guess it was the title. I
didn't know, but they denied. I had fought they was
not much be on the LIVEO that nineteen right, and
then Kanye should have never married that bitch. They rejected

(52:46):
my ads on YouTube again. Marketing c right, promotion, publicity, advertisement.
Look at it like this, This is my secret glasses
tip I'm gonna give to y'all at the lost take.
Promotion is when I tell you my story. Publicity is
when somebody else tells you my story. Advertising is when
I pay for my story to be told. You have

(53:09):
to have all three seventy five percent of what's happening
on your numbers is marketing. It's marketing. Like two pop
Muths died did It's at three million views. It was
at a million faves before they took it down and
then I had to put it back up and it
was at three million views. It did three million views

(53:30):
on Twitter, It did three million views on Facebook. That
video probably would probably be at sixty million views if
I could advertise, if I would have had Mighty do
my publicity. Right, Kanye never married that bitch. That song
was at four million views on you. On Facebook, it
was at two million views, right, So that's six million total. Right.
If I would have did advertisement, that shit probably at

(53:50):
forty fifty million. So you have to market. You cannot
trust me the music. The way we feel about music,
it is not caring the product is not carrying what
we see happening. It's way more to this shit than
just the product. So my job is to make sure
I get it right, even if it means I got
to push it back and wait a little bit more time.
Like I hate it I had to push my show back.

(54:12):
I hate when I have to push it back, but
sometimes that's what I be on Joey and all my homies,
like Bro, we need to be more consistent. It's ten
of us trying to emulate a building of a thousand people.
So I need to get it right. These people sitting
right here, do I want this thing to grow? Well,
let me nail this song? Do I want? Do I
want people to put me on the list somewhere above thirty?

(54:34):
Then I need to nail how I do the business
on this song.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Okay, I'm I love what you just said right there.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
So when you let me rephrase my question now of
what the top fifty in the top and game when
you topped below sixty, when you saw those lists fuck
making you mad and all that type of shit?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Did it make you hungry?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I'm starving. Yeah, that shit don't got none to do.
You didn't look at them. Listen.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
It was like I need to do Okay, I'm next
time a nigga make a list, I'm gonna be on it.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Then I do this ship for the people that fuck
with me.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
The only reason I do this for the people that
fuck with me.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I think I think that is number. I think that
has une became. All right, So that was the rappers
list right there, top to top. You know, I'm saying,
what you're doing for the culture though, be that's what
it is. It's much more powerful than that right there.
You know what I'm saying. Like I told, I'm about
I called you that time and I said, Joe, it
was it was like I woke up one day and
I was like, Yo, I'm like, nah, I see what

(55:33):
my man is doing right now. He could he could
really be the the person that really makes sure this
hip hop ship. You know what I'm saying, stage within
where it needs to be at and represented the way
it needs to be at though. B All right, listen,
you know what I'm saying. So yeah, that's it, bro,
And that's all it does right there within it know
what I'm saying. They not put you on the list.
Of a rapper joint. All right, maybe you're not spending enough.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I'm being honest shut out to Sir last Wood. Thank
you for the ten dollars. My boy Lance is the
comedian in the video when pressure is ike you when
you listen to what he said, Bro, when I post
that ship, that ship that Nigga lands funny bro, Bro
for that ten dollars, my boy listen honestly, homie, like

(56:16):
I'm so possessed by what I'm supposed to be doing. Okay,
they got ice T on the list. Nigga. Ice T
tell me all the time, like Nigga, you fire you
better than most niggas I ever heard. Dog calls me,
and Dog calls me to the studio. Nigga, don't nobody
know this ship like Nigga, you fire Dre like Nigga,
you gonna figure this out. Jay text me when Tupac
must die, like Nigga, this shit fire Nigga, the niggas

(56:38):
that everybody like knowing that I'm the ship. So yes,
in the perfect world, the general public would be like, oh,
glasses get it. But trust me, it's different when Snoop
hits you and be like Nigga, this ship is amazing
that I don't give a fuck if it's a thousand people,
ten thousand people. That could ten thousand people can make

(57:01):
me feel how that one message from Dog telling me
that this is the ship iced Tea like, Nigga, you
way too filthy with this coature ship. Nigga and I
get that, bro, and that ship is super dope.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
And like I said, White, it's funny because we talked
about wrestling and then you just said that it's almost
kind of like you people's favorite wrestler, I mean favorite rappers,
favorite rapper a little bit kind of it's almost like
you Delinka of of of hit me nah bread to
hit me Heart.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
That boy bred Heart was the wrestlers wrestler.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, Sean Michael, he like Michael. You kind of seemed
like he.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Was like under well we called Sean Michael nos but
back I would make sure I addressed that too. Okay,
what's underrated about? Nass had four or five six albums
with hit records smash like Chuck had.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
That was crazy, Coach, that was crazy what you just said,
Coach that wasn't queens.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
But I don't get that. I get the natural comparison,
but I think was most important is people understand NAS
is not this underground nigga that can rap good. NAS
is a nigga that could rap good. But NAS got smad.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
And he stay with them being the coach and be
the whole time.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
You have a listen to a gotten a little while
and you listen to all this And he liked Damn Smash.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Records, but all the platinum albums. NAS got records nigga
that are bigger than NOAs. But I'm not saying that
Game is the is NOAs.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I wouldn't say He's saying the West Coast version of
and I was.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I was saying that when Game rapped from the first time,
I understand what he said. He kind of felt like
he kind of came out. He definitely painted Harmpton and
his lifestyle very much like NAS painted Queens Queen's Bridge
at the time. Two niggas in l a in no
way for profession, know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
He ever reached saying can you see me saying no not?
Game was on a level of presenting the culture of
what LA sounded like the way Fab was doing it
nowhere next to me, Knaves was doing it. No it
might have be better, but it was on the same
level the way Fab was doing it. You throw fat

(59:18):
hold on Hod, you throw a fab bout. How when
you think of think of Brooklyn nigga, a fly Brooklyn nigga.
We took a game, you think of a you think
of a gang banger, l a nigga. You know what
I'm saying. We think a nag somebody bigger than.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Us trap when nas I mean when when game came out,
I looked at him like I.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Promise, kind of looked at him more like a conscious rapper.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Yeah, I think like him, like a real lyricist. Like
I was like, hey, he's as dude, who's really correct.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Asking something I'm telling you for real. That's why I
compared him the nods a little bit because that's yes,
because even though he was saying West Coast conscious like
he was using tag lines like blood on Power, that
didn't sell us, like, oh everything is murdered like he not?
He not does the shadiest one? Yeah you hear the

(01:00:03):
shadiest one? Or the east Side is You didn't you know?
That game was on a little more level of focus
and descriptions, so that like east Side is is like
Nigga like that's gangster.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I got a question, and coach, I got a question
for y'all, the Jack Hart Game East Coast sympathizer.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Yeah no, because by that time that's a good question,
because by that time we kind of all I thought like,
we didn't look at it. It was homies. So used
to be like he rapped too, he's coach for me, Yes,
it did. It used to be homies like that for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Okay, we loved them. We loved them from the jump.
You're gonna use this against me one day, for sure.
But I honestly liked more East Coast rappers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Like I won't I won't use that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
I want use that again. Reminded me of that. I
love it. That's what we're saying, grass cast Like when
I heard ras Cats.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
For the first.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Hash hit records, that's how people saw game. Yeah. Shout
out to Sherry, we are from Compton or actually speak
louder than words, which is why Glasses is not phased.
We all built different. That is a fact. Thank you
for that time when you've been at Chevy, where you've
been at shout out to gear your Yeah, gang was
less like a gangster rapper, but for us, it felt

(01:01:28):
like he was an m C that happened to be
a blood exactly Bingo that was saying. That's why I said,
I get why coach is saying that, And I get
why you saying that because I know obviously nah ship,
but I get why. So it's like again, it's like
to the point like with Chuck, you know what I mean,

(01:01:49):
It's like like I get it, like he's trying. Like again,
if he had hit records, he wouldn't have to do
most of this stuff. He wouldn't have to do most
of this stuff if he had a bunch of hit records,
like he didn't have to do nothing. You see when
nas And had no hit records, he put that dress
in his lap, just.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Taken away from his hit record though.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
No, he only got an album worth some You be
forgetting it sometime when when you start seeing know that's
because it was that long.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I really feel like as if they just push his
records because fucking Jesus Peace had records on it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Them s's had records on it. Should we had little
one records on it. It wasn't like he didn't have
the records. Dog, Even when I be saying about Kanye West,
and I know the songs you're talking about. I know
the songs you're talking about. Like, but man, a record again. Man,
when we be talking about this trap, I'll be telling you,

(01:02:44):
like a record is special. Man. To catch it is
almost unfucking believable how crazy it is. And it's hard
for that one nigga who is an MC at the
core to understand and to transition into becoming a great
record maker. That's hard. It took us. I couldn't put

(01:03:05):
out music for eight years to get into a place
to make better records. I had to just focus and learn.
I couldn't imagine trying to do it in real time
and produce. Like you look at somebody like Jermaine Duprix,
he grew up in this shit. JD nigga is like
a nigga. His father was in the business. Nigga he is.
He was trying and he's still learning every day and
he's fucking Jermain du pre call the records the question.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
So you have a guy who just had to take
a step back and start looking at the game and
start learning and looking at the game. You didn't look
at the game and see some stuff and you was
like he went wrong with that anti like that was
not the You shouldn't have done that, like somebody's antics
because somebody, I'm telling you, somebody's got to take it.
Like Kanye West is taking away from his legacy with
some of his antics. I think the game did the

(01:03:48):
same thing. He tarnished some of his legacy with his antics.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
That shout out to Walls twenty nineteen, boring the rap
was hard and very under ready to ye. What I'm
saying to you is it's easy for glasses to look
at Chuck's shit and be like, man, if that was
me or he did, Chuck is relevant like a rapper
that had hits five years ago or ten years ago.

(01:04:17):
He's not relevant.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Check him, man, Chuck him, pull up, Man, what.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I'm I'm gonna do a dope fast power Chucked.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
You need what you need to do?

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Fine, listen. No, that's a good point, though, I'm gonna
do that on God. That's the idea. We're gonna We're
gonna do it with Chuck it. Yeah, Chuck is relevant
like a nigga that had ten years ago hits, right,
but he only he had hits twenty years ago. But
he's relevant like a Nigga that had hits ten years

(01:04:50):
ago all because of the antics. Whatever we say about
If you don't like how he goes to market his ideas,
that's fine. We can say it's taining. I had to
hit twenty years ago or seventeen years ago. That ship
I had to hit, that ship will go. People ain't
checking for Gregory Abbit. You don't even know who Gregory

(01:05:12):
Abbit is. But if I start saying this song, you
gonna be like, that's my ship. Oh remember, shake you down.
I want to say, give you no. I'm saying music
the sorry so he got no. Look what I'm saying
is the reason that Nigga got relevant is because of

(01:05:34):
his antics. It started off with him having a bunch
of dope records in marketing. Now it's just been marketing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
But at what point the when do you want your
you to be relevant in in in a way that
that that helps your legacy though or helps you in
the future, or helps you Like it's a difference between
being relevant and and like, yeah, if I talk if
I'm talking about you, what if I'm just talking about
you negatively and it's bad and it's hurting you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
They always say all publicity is great publicity.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
You think you look at what Kanye is doing?

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
You think you do? You really think that's true?

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yes, some of this shit is not helping.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yes, I think yes, Yes, I think it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
So you think, do you think that the average fan
look at Game how they're supposed to look at him
for what?

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
With his?

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
With his they wouldn't be piography, They wouldn't be looking
at him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
But what that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
But do you think they look at him in the
way they should look at him? With the reference we
should be looking at Game. You wouldn't look at the
top five West Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
You wouldn't be saying the top. Okay, listen, he should be.
If Game didn't do no antics, he wouldn't even be
considered top exactly. That's a fact he would have been mentioned.
I don't know the game ship is because of his marketing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Realize that coach like coach. You gotta think you ever
heard the term you're red, the term back blublicity. You
know what I'm saying back, I'm not a saying go though,
but it don't matter though long as you're being mentioned.
That's what this is. That's what I'm saying though. So
where do you get where do you have right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
No, no, no, said again, Roddy Rich in what top
fifty West Coast rappers.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I don't want to disrespect anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Don't talk about the top fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Is Roddy Rich in the top fifty. If I had
to make a top fifty, Roddy Wish can make my
top fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Okay, Now, let's say Riddy Rich don't put out no
albums that's good, and you don't have no hit records
over the next five years, we still be your top
fifty's coming out. Nope, I guess it would have to
depend on who's coming out. Chuck and Roddy are the
same situation. The difference is Chuck markets himself.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
So okay, I want in the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Yeah, I'm saying both of them had these Really that
was crazy because I had good debut albums.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
I'm what you're saying, good debut albums.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Big albums with big smash hit records.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
But but but Riddy's follow up was terrible. Though we're
not do that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I don't think it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
I think it was I say that, not terrible, maybe
not terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
But then I don't know how successful Riddy Rich was
when he put out the record.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
There's no way way And I honestly think that you're
you're taking away from what Chuck did when he was
when he was booming. Like I think that Chuck did
so good when he was out and and and he
could rap so well, and he did such such a
he left such an impression on the West Coast to
where I don't think he needed these antics to be
still thought about as when I think he might have
been looked at as a higher on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Some of the West coast if he didn't do some
of this ship let me ask you, let me ask
you this. Okay, if he didn't, if he didn't do
all these antheis you think he get a show on
VH one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
No, getting that might have been the worst ever happened
to him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
He lost seven million.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
He already kept this. He probably would have kept seven million.
Shout out to Caddie Ball. Not Game more talent than
than Roddy. No, he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I don't know about.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Yeah. Game is a little bit of rapper. He's a
better m C than Roddy Rich right Rich one million
time better record.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
That hold on Man, show this stuff. Honestly, Game first
album of Roddy Rich first album are going with.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I'm gonna go Chuck first album, impact but just jamming songs.
It's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Nigga jam like Chuck?

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Are you crazy for coach? That right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Wrinch Ship might be the most.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
My album I ever heard.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
That's what is going on right now the game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Okay, both of y'all niggas must be mad at Chuck
almost obviously, I grew up until I personally saw the
impact upper coats and personal for I'm telling I'm just
telling you, I'm not gonna play with that anti social
that ship is. I'm sewing the storm that album, that

(01:10:04):
motherfucker jamming jazz album. Bro, I don't know, I just.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
I said the cohesiveness of the album. That's why I
put it up there like that though, because to track
at one point.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Someone we all agree, we will agree because we got it,
got it, got it. But we just making sure we
put respect on that. Roddy which album My son he nineteen,
and I'm gonna go track for track one day with him.
I'm like, what you think is better?

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
He gonna do that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Do that? Do that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I'm telling you though, because good music is good music.
I've done that ship with G's music. I took G's
music and put it against one of his people. He
had that mine music is better than ship, but it's
also different. Like I got better at making records over time.
I just figured it out. Now Roddy is old ship,
and it would be some of this new ship.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Roddy. Roddy is somebody who is really like a genius
like that more fuck here ship in He like keys
like he is, y'all fucked righty up, y'all fuck righty up,
y'all fucked right of up because we ran.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Righty up. He don't sound like an l a nigga,
he said, like, but he got him out of his bag,
got him out of his bag.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
But that's what that's that's not true, Okay. What gave
Roddy problem is the pandemic. Like he was a thing
in the pandemic. A lot of stuff came out the pandemic.
It wasn't a thing no more, you know what I mean.
Like sometimes it it happened in the in the black
hole and what's that the Bermuda triangle, and then don't

(01:11:37):
come out. It just ain't came out. Still, that's on him.
He'll figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Bird is my nigga bird Bird used to bring Riddy
to my studio. He's a little kid man, but I
could tell that motherfucker was He was like yourself. He
was he was slick, he was smart like you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Brought up a great question. Do you think Roddy still
got you think he can have hen He got another
hit in him, another hitting album.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
He got another But here's a perfect example of somebody
who doesn't market themselves, who really just depends on the music.
Look at where he's at now. Roddy is not as
relevant as Chuck is right now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
You don't think Roddy trying to do some stuff though,
I think he trying to do a little commercials here
and there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Not commercials. I'm talking about understanding how to market and
brand himself. Game and Roddy. Roddy don't have a great brand.
Roddy is just listen, Roddy is actually product. Don't have
a band like niggas don't quite know what they're getting
with Roddy as a brand as a person.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
But okay, Trap and Trap, I want you to aswer
this too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Also, if Roddy drops something right now, because he hasn't
put a lot of himself out there, we don't think
he lame or no weird or nothing like that. He
drops something right now and game drops from right now?
Who y'all looking for the most like, who y'all think
the masses so no, no, like you drop it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Do you think the you think game drops something right
now and the masses look at they be like, oh
this is he's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
I'm be hones with you. They're gonna, they're gonna they're
going check for game ship first.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Hell no, no, hold on, hold.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
On, let me tell let me tell you why right
because he's keeping his name. He's keeping his name in
the algorithm. This is an algorithm game keeping like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
That, people who listen to it, here's a hekeept even
dropping there. Here's a better question for you. That was
what you think Roddy right, who had a great debut,
will be as relevant as game in twenty years? No,
because because the game ship is better, it's more classic.
It's not right now forgot guy right now? You know

(01:13:40):
what's funny? That's I get. But what what did you say? Trapped?

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
I said, Roddy's almost forgotten about right now? You know
what I'm saying, He's not.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
He's not saying within the conversation. Let me trapping and gee,
do y'all feel like a game was a one hit wonder? Yo?

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
You know what I just thought about this Now you're
just talk about let me say I got my brain.
Let me say I got my brain right now right.
It's the fact that that hip hop is such a
culture that moves forward though. You know what I'm saying
that you have to you have to embody yourself with
them being a part of the culture, within the conversation

(01:14:17):
of the culture, and it has to be more than
just music. Be you know what I'm saying, your music,
Your music could be something that's just that just that's
just left what I'm saying, it's something it's a soundtrack
to the culture.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
But when you're given the people who you auto, you
can move forward within the culture as a culture moves forward.
And and that's what hip hop does. Hip hop moves forward.
You know what I'm saying, We're moving forward. You don't.
You don't hear a niggas say r and be culture
nigga say you you hear him saying rock culture. You
know what I'm saying that. But but hip hop is
the is the biggest drama of music. That's a that's

(01:14:48):
a culture, that's actually a culture, and with them being
the culture has to be it has to be language,
it has to be everything that comes along with them
being culture. Though, B, if you don't present, if you
only present one thing upon that culture within, it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Tough to okay, And I agree with you, Trapp, but
I think that some of the antics that game are
is doing is not hip hop culture.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
And I don't think but I think that's why it
looks matter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
That's on your lens. That's on your lens. B, that's
on your lens.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
That's a great point. Listen, some niggas make is weird.
All the glasses glass.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
This ship is weird. B.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I understand this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
I'll be around weird niggas all the time right outside,
and I understand. These niggas got a whole different aspect
of what the different this should mean. That should be cool,
that what he's doing is cool.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Be right there, y'all considered hip hop. It's not listen
we're talking about so it just gonna be hip hop then,
I mean, no, everything about marketing, everything about marketing ain't
hip hop. That's just business. One thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Tuck is great at keeping his brand. Hard to see
why game put you sixty one. Now you're he's probably
don't like you, like you sure he don't. This This
is Roddy Rich disrespect. It's crazy to me right now,
you just tripping right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
We didn't. You're telling you that. We're just saying Roddy
Rich had a double triple platinum album with a diamond
single four years ago, five years ago in a pandemic.
It was a big deal. Coach like it was and
at that time and five years right now, and he's
somebody that's really good at making records, like if nothing else,

(01:16:35):
that motherfucker make a really great song. And he been
like that since a little kid. He's a bad motherfucker. Like,
I'm not gonna playd album, then if you make a
really good song. He did. He had a hit record
on there too. Late that night. He had a hit record.
That motherfucker was big. But what I'm telling you is
because and me and Bird talked about this, and I

(01:16:56):
don't really want to put the hommies my opinion, but
I'll be honest, I think he doesn't necessarily have the brand,
and he needs to define the brand. More right, Chuck
is somebody who's mastered brand and marketing. Even if you
don't agree with it, doesn't carry like a positive perception
of it, it's negative, but it keeps him relevant. That's

(01:17:17):
why he's relevant.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Game is the Elis game, is the Elis artist. That
guy from coming out of Call for It was Kendrick,
Kendrick and his game. So as that look at it
like that, though, b like like, I think if you're
doing the list right now, you got to put Kendrick game.
As far as the cultural impact.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
That this is just ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
No, he's not number two or wright right, he's top
five though, No, no, no, no, he's he's above Ice
Cub above Ice c Broun. We my movie movie not
my movies, bro, Bro, if you go to the chat
right now, if you go to the chat right now,
these people can even mention as cube albums be, which

(01:18:08):
means to culch developments didn't last. The commens the documentary
and commentioned doctors advocate commentioned mention what that was a
good day, and they conmentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Hated love it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
They're not they are nobody's gonna compare hated chat.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
What are you picking right now?

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Chat?

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Everybody in the chat right now?

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
What are you picking?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Hated love it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Or today was a good day. Everybody in this room
right now, everybody right now? What hated and love it?
Or today was a good day? Are you watch this?

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Watch it? Watch it, watch it? Watch nobody is gonna
pick everybody right now. I want you to even name
it even mentioned hatla love it? Or today was a
good day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
What are you doing? Why? Why you don't room right
now mentioned it today? Or it is a good What
are you doing looking? Let's talk about one thing. Let
me let me see what they say.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Good day, good day, good day? The great stores of music.
You're tripping now, what do you want? A song? And
hip hop? Not like good day? Let's talk about pulling
your past.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
I love it was a great song at that time.
Today was a good day. It's one of the latest
songs ever in the history of hip hop music. Trap
himp hop. It's music like today was a good day?
Is up there with Rocketman? Or like Hotel California? Trap
you got one? You got one? Hitter love it? Cherry,
She's not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
I appreciate you, Cherry. I appreciate Look at that's why
I but look for your chevy. You ain't been around lately.
I've been looking for you, Chevy. You don't know where
you've been at right now though, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Trap is no, not in front of queue?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
All right, get out, you're all right? So now you
got today. It was a good day, now right? What's
his next? What's ice? Shoot?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Next?

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Biggest song? Now? Wash this though, Wash this though, now
wash this because you know about the fuck up right now?
You know what the fuck you up right now? Go
watch this thof cue? Next bigger storm?

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
How about gays?

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
The gayster? I don't get the funk out of here
with that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Check yourself, check yourself. It's a good one though, but
it ain't no vacaline, I see, no vacaline. Was a
good day. They love it. They love it is a
coaching impact. Thank you, Queen, Thank you, queen, Your queen.
That's why I love you, Queen.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Noticed when when Sherry and Queen ladies start agreeing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
With you, listen, man, and ladies love me be That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
It's some niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
That's is just going for nigga's niggas though.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
B come on, man, give me cool tea right now here.
I'm here, and get a lot of chick maybe my
tri love you ladies. Shout out to Golf Coast Connection,
Thank you for the two dollars. Thank y'all for all
the super le lets you from fucking queens.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Oh on first door, Lex, Yeah, we gotta getle listen,
we gotta Gelex up in here. They'll be yo. First,
let me get littlet meet a little pluck real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Listen, me and Lex is coming up with I've been doing.
I've been doing some content right now. I've been creating
right now. So we what we're doing right now is
we're putting together the best lyricists from from nineteen eighty
eight up to present day. You know what I'm saying,
Lex being the person. Yes, it's crazy, be Lex thing. No, no, no,

(01:21:56):
it's it's some much We spread level all through the
whole ship up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Gonna win. It's not it's not a win.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
It's not a win thing really though, it's more it's
more like m vps.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Every year, every year. That's actually tight.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Now it's crazy, it's gonna be I think we should
break the Internet with this ship though. I think you
break the Internet with this ship though, all that complex
ship within them not being like Nigga, I'm culture, you
know what I'm saying, like my man less culture, and
I really got set this whole, this whole ship within.
I don't feel like anybody should. You might disagree because
your favorite might not make it within the whole ship though, but.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Hold ups, we're gonna get to it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Hold on, we get to the so so within, Like
what we're putting together right now is gonna really fuck that,
you know what I'm saying like this, and even though
the Internet is fake though, I'm about to try to
bring some real to the Internet though. That's what I'm
saying right there though. So the best lyricis from eighty
eight to two thousand and five. Bro, Now that's what
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
So we do so we doing it? You should do it?
Like That's fine? Okay man, Golf Coast Connection, thank you
for the two dollars. G Can you explain how those
eight years helped and benefited. It's like I sacrificed my
thirties just to know it. I didn't really do it
to to benefit, but like I make a one million

(01:23:18):
time better record in my sleep, right now than I
ever could make great great records, know how to make
a really good record at this point, Like I can
make a song like I made a song called the
Logan how I want to want to excuse me? The
real wanted to add it to the rotation like it tested.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Me quick when you send me records over right, it's
hard not to say, yo, this is a good record,
be because you know that you know the craft, but
it goes into making a great record, so it kind
of almost we have have me like, yo, damn, I
know it's a good record. Though everything that goes to

(01:23:56):
this nigga kind of cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
I do it to coach all the time and trap
you kind of feel like when G S and U
stuff do you kind of feel like, man, is it because.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
It's my man? Because it's my man right there, I
would say it's good in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
My mind and I'm so crazy, like I would tell
you if I didn't like it, I'd be like, I
don't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
I've never done it, because it's I never know I've
done it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
I've done it with production, with production. I've done them
with production to much like so now if he makes
a beat and he see me the beating. I'd be like,
because I'm so, I'm so scientific and so trying to
pick upon the beat, and shep like, yo, listen, you
gotta do this that this is the beat though, But
when the song is done, though, I really, I really
feel as if he knows how to construct the record

(01:24:41):
though be but I think, but I think though, glasses
some real I'm gonna take this right now, right, you
got to get out of that box. So and in
the same way, the same way you say within the video, like, yo,
you can't be so because you understand, all right, it
gotta be this this, It gotta go this way to
make a great record.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
And then you got it got to be wrong a
little bit, but but no, yeah, I've been on it.
But that's also why I wanted to put out these
records where we was gonna wrap Okay, I got you,
We're finna do it right now, black, let me just
finish this. Hold up a record record on. He was saying,
when we get the record a lot right now, hold
on black, hold up black, No, listen, So can you explain?

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Yeah, it helped me make a better record. It helped
me know how to market directly, and it helped me
understand something that kind of made me paid, you know
what I mean, like hip hop. So it's like the
benefit was like the room ain't as dark no more,
like you know what I mean, Like I could see
what's happening, Like I could dissect anything, like even this
particular topic with like the Drake lawsuit, Like I could

(01:25:44):
see it a lot different. I mean, it's like it's
like being neo and the matrix, like it all looked
like numbers. It don't look like it stopped looking like
just humans. It looked like numbers and ship. You know
what I'm saying. That's how it worked. But so push
the T thing and this is why I want to
talk about that. That's it. Like we I told y'all, niggas.

(01:26:06):
I told y'all, I told y'all when I heard I
heard you know you heard me saying this. I know
you heard me saying this. I told y'all. I told y'all.
I told y'all, I said, if y'all don't stop this motherfucker,
if you don't stop being cool, he's going to start
fucking with how music is being released. So he's going

(01:26:29):
to start fucking with how music is being released from
somebody who, So what happened was then tell you what happened?
So I don't know, push your t did an interview
with GQ. Make sure y'all check that out where he's
still crazy. Death Jam, which is a subsidiary of u MG,
dropped him because he didn't want to censor the record

(01:26:49):
with Kendrick Lamar on the Clips project. Mm hmmm, what
did they want to CeNSE you about it? Like what
something Kendrick was saying in the verse? Oh mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Now you know what's crazy though, is that you say
this now though?

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
So when I first put my first you know, when
I first seeing it though, that's straight marketing. That's great marketing.
That's amazing, market amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Check this out, though, hold on, check this out. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Dig this right?

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
The first joint, right was him announcing the deal at
rock Nation without telling you, right, Lord knows. I wonder
what Jay was doing because I know they wanted Jay
in the picture. Yeah, so that that's one thing. So
who's j with?

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Who's j with? Within the whole ship?

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Though he was with that ship, he not, No, No,
rock Nation is his own thing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Oh wow, wow, Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
What was in powered by Live Nation.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
So Live Nation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Deal with a lot of Nation, and then they would
do part of deals with record companies. But Rock Nation
has its own distribution thing. They got equity, they got
his own distribution wing. But you're watching Pushing T as
this animal with marketing. What's underrated about Pushing T is
his ability to market. So you so y'all think this
is marketing. Yeah, but marketing doesn't mean like fake. It

(01:28:24):
don't have to mean like made up story. It could
be how you weaponize the conversation. Okay, I get that,
I get it. But do y'all think it's fake or
do y'all think he's weaponizing? No, it's real. It's real.
It's real.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
It's just with then bringing the truth to the to
the forefront. That's what he's doing right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
You think it's you think it's Cap.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
That's not.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
I mean, look, I don't want to shoot Push down
because Push doing this run. But I know it a
mile away.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Because I think it's real and you think it's CAP.
I think that's even making a brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
It's exactly exactly coach exactly. He's not fair for Track,
I know, but that's not You didn't give that I know,
smile when you said this, Yeah, what won't make it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
What won't make it?

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
You're not going to talk about this here. We'll do
this on right back. Yeah, were pushing the line for pushing.
We marketing got the clips because I wanted the clips
to I want to do my part with content and
make sure people knew the clips have an album coming
out on July eleven. Do you think what he said
about Kanye West was working?

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
And also do you think because it's been a long
time coming that he probably should have said this already.
Do you think it's because his album is about to
come out that he said what he said about Kanye.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Mean one interview and then he just didn't hold back
his opinion on things. He's not doing interviews before that.
He waited till the end, and he built it out
of g Q. And then the publicist is taking clips
out of the GQ thing and sending them in the platforms.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Because that one interview. I didn't see the interview. You
you you y'all put me on the interview. I'm I'm
looking for the project now, even just from that interview that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Y'all it's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
I'm like, I'm trying to see now, I'm trying to
see what he's gonna say something Kanye on the record.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
He said it's antics and shout out to TC. He said,
Kanye ain't a man. But I know why that is
because push know what's up with him and that lady
and Kim. He know that's what God he acting like
that and we do look at that. No, no, no, no,
don't do that, Bro, don do that. He's saying, Dick,

(01:30:30):
you talking about that, said that ship, You.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Ain't a man.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
I don't care about this. You're about to do that
that Nigga is a fashion icon. Ain't no man. He
being all of them, all of them met Gallas. You
know that be a bunch of people over the second Dick,
you don't care about that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
On men, you know you could be you can be
all over there. But if it's second Dick, you ain't
a man you're talking about bro.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Here, he would if you care about a man sucking penis,
you would not be at Noro.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Listen, bro and a man if a man now, but
I'll be bad, I'll be bad. I'll be back my
kids out here right now. I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Look if if if if you cared about homosexual lifestyle.
You would not be at none of that fashion ship. Listen, bro,
I'm back now.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
If a nigga suck a dick, I'm not looking at
you as being a man, just a bitch. The she's
talking about is this a.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Liberal trap saying this.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
I'm just saying what I'm saying. Within the whole ship, though, Bro,
I'm not looking at you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
A lot of times, a lot of times, a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Of times that golden too, that golden to the whole
ship within them not recognize themselves as being a man.
By what you're doing. You're doing, if you're doing the
acts of being if you're doing acts of a woman,
what are you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
That means you gay? Theyre doing the acts of a
gay man to also not just of a woman doing
the acts of a gay I'm telling you, I'm telling
you why I think he said that about Kanye. He
see him acting that way over that girl, going all
out doing everything, trying everything, and I know that because.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
It can be a pot look of things that he
like him doing the ship with Kim and then him
also sucking his because you know, man.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Upon the bitch they loved. If you fucking loft this bitch.
You bugging out of this bitch you love or not.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Must be you're really far away like you are crazy, right, Mike, Mike,
your kids must be away because you're going it went bad.
I don't think he cares about the fact that Kanye
was doing some really almost sexual things as a kid.
I think he's talking about every other answers like him
trying to be cool with Drake after Drake this case.

(01:33:03):
That what crazy. I'm telling you right now, if I want,
if I, if I had to bet you some money,
everything that's wrong with Kanye is related to Kim, not
his Why would he say he's not a man b
because the way he's acting, I think it's a bit
like a bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
It's a dumbo of things while he's saying it. Though,
I think trapm I got a point. I think the
fact I don't think pusher t is you know, I
think the world he lives in, he has to deal
with homosexuality. I don't think he's no problem. I don't
think he's he's just running around with you know, listen,
you can't problem.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Quick. I have no problem.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
I have no problem with homosexuality. Whoever you picked this.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
And be a homophone. That doesn't I think he thinks
he's a homophobe. If you have, I'm not saying homophobe.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
B Okay what you said. No, No, let me cluse
there's a quest because of a quick I'm not saying
nothing within being homophobe though. What I'm saying is this
though when you displayed, when you display actions of being
a cat, then that's what the fuck you're gonna you
want to be represented as being though, b you know
what I'm saying, like like, like Nigga, you you just

(01:34:17):
told everybody in the world that you sucked dick. Men
don't suck dick. B man, don't suck dick, the man,
don't suck. No men that want to be women suck dick.
We ain't gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
Just a lot of gay men who don't want to
be women. Every it's gay men who don't even like
all I'm saying that. All I'm saying is a time
long time. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
I'm not saying that within any way that that that
all right, Kanye might have been a young might have
been young at the time, and he might have been
you might have been a little kid at the time.
Now but now that you now that you're doing, now
that you're done told the world this ship, though, the
world's gonna look at you as being which what how

(01:35:07):
you looking at glasses?

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
I don't really care that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
CLASSES don't care about about about any one of my
homies right now. If you tell me you, if you
tell me you sucking dick, one time you get nigga,
I'm gonna talk about that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
I don't think Push has a problem with me and
being homosexuals.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
You couldn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
I don't and I don't think he looks at every
man that's a homosexual as a woman.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
I do see where your liberal line is at, though,
I see where that's at, Like you are really going hard.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Yeah cool, so y'are cool within the within A do
that recognize himself as being a woman going in the
bathroom and being in the bathroom with your.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Not what we're talking about. It not what Kanye said
happened to him as a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Well, I'm saying you got to balance it out.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
Though he was his little cousin, like you like that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
I'm with you, But I don't think I think that
what Kanye did with his little cousin, his little cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Get off the hombo stuff. Stay on topic. Damn exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
This two there's two episodes in the road right now.
You've been on some Homeoh it's moving on though, moving on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
Brown brash y'all is really our sense?

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
No, no, you know what it is, though it's not
that clear up though, it's not that because you mother
like to come here.

Speaker 5 (01:36:30):
I was, yo, listen, Kanye was my man. B like
pause pause, paws, you better watch out with that was
but I.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
But listen, Kanye.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Kanye is one of my favorite artists, favorite artists and
produced at the time. And the th is I coming
out talking him out. He's like, no, no, no, he
did what he did though, Like, bro, listen, go talk
to a doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
You ain't got to come out talking and ship to
us right now. Be like, bro, come on, chill out, bro,
like you and now that you want to come out
in the public and tell people that you did what
you did, like that thing you're gonna get look the pon.
That's being not a man you're gonna live. That's being
why can't just be looking for what else? He's saying
that for what else would Kanye not be a man?

(01:37:16):
Upon them be everything else, everything else that Kanye speaks though.
It's real manly ship though when he said, yo, listener,
when he said home on real quick the glasses, when
he said listen, No, these these small hats have no
problem with us, with us rapping about killing each other.
But they mad about but they mad about me talking

(01:37:36):
about you know what I'm saying, fucked up, fuck them
and all that ship though. That's not being a man,
no what you men, that's that's been a black man
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
That's real ship.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
A homeboy that had a girl and you see how
his girl treat him and do them bad, and you like,
and he stayed with her and you and you ain't
never looked at him like less of a man like man, bro, Like,
why are you letting?

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
I got a statement.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
I got a statement that I say with them that right,
So I'll say, Yo, some niggas run their house, some
niggas running around their house. But at the same time,
that's a man though, b you know what I'm saying,
that's doing that ship though. You know what I'm saying,
like that, come when they come of their kids though,
they're going, they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna be a
man when they when they come of they sgificant otherly,

(01:38:22):
yeah they might, they might be soft with than that though,
but they they a man though, b when they come
to that ship though. Now they told Now, they told
their fucking son, they's such a dick the sun and
look at them. U yo, Hold did it freeze? Hold
on all right? They ain't freeze. I thought he froze

(01:38:43):
there for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
I have no idea what right now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
I'm just saying though, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
I don't think pushing Tea is tripping on Kanye because.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Oh what though, why is he not a man?

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Because he see all the other stuff he's doing while
he's around.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
That man take care of his kids. He takes care
of his kids.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
He took care of his kids. That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
At this point though you can't even see his kids.
Kids might want to stay away from him because apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
Look, let me tell you something. So you just ran
down that whole whole ship about how he's being a
black man, and why did he apologize the moment that
he saw his kids at Kim's house.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
He apo.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
All that stuff he said, he said, I'm sorry to
I'm sorry to uh the Jewish community.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
I got sometimes sometimes when you sometimes when you understand
that the battle that you was fighting, you know what
I'm saying, what what what was it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Giving you? I'm giving you why, he said. He apologized.
I got to see my kids.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Bullshit. He was never standing up for black men in
the first place. He was because he couldn't see his kids.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Let me tell you, choosing my kids over I'm switching
my kids over all your motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
I'm not choosing my kids over black.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
You ain't got no kids, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Yeah, glass to be talking reckless with this man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
I'm choosing my kids over over all your motherfuckers over
y'all kids. I'm choosing that's my kids over all your motherfuckers.
I'm teuting my creation that I made over all your motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
And that's the problem. No, what's the problem. Last gotta
have a cot before you talking about this. So what
I'm saying to you is, I'm sure I'm gonna feel
the same way Y'all'm gonna be saying you will. What
I'm saying, y'all is this I'm saying. He apologized. He
apologized right once he got to see his kids. So

(01:40:46):
he was only throwing a tantrum because he couldn't see
his kids. But do you feel like that's manly? That's
what I'm telling Trap. It's not. Yes, it is Bro,
your kid, that's it the tantrum, Trap Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Let's sen I'm gonna do whatever I gotta do to
see my kids if I can.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
It's not gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Called trapping sipping. We ain't gonna be like trap, trapper
throwing a goddamn tantrum.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
I can't see my kids. Stopping your feet and yelling like.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
You ain't gonna be like a right let me bring
it back right now with them what we're talking about
right now? Right so now you will say that a
motherfucker do anything to be relevant within hip hop, but
won't throw anything to see their kids.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
He not doing that to see his kids.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
It's his He's being a recognition on on how I'm
being treated right now upon seeing my kids be so
now let me see my kids.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
The Jewish community of people in America or Jewish no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
No, no, I don't think none of that ship right there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
I'm sorry to the Jewish community. I got to see
my y'o glasses.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
You can't see what the fuck that wise be. You
can't do that wise though, Yo, listen you listen.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Yo Kim, Yo Kim, hold on, hold on, brother, hold on, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Yo Kim, talk to this nigger Kim to after this
nigga Kim because because listen, listen, he ain't doing that
that shit because his kids. Though he had a he
had a certain he had a certain aspect upon listen, listen, listen.
I'm doing this for my peoples though. But now when
you're telling me right now that what I'm doing right
now is gonna affect me seeing my kids, now, it's

(01:42:30):
a problem what I'm doing though. Now, that's what I'm
saying right there though. Be at first he never he
never thought about what he was doing was gonna affect
him seeing his kids. But un tell the motherfuckers go
you listen you Kim, listen, Kim, you better talk to
this nigger Kim because we're gonna be we're gonna do this,
that this, and you know how to wait the way
Kim move. We're gonna do this that this right here,

(01:42:51):
We're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
Fuck your honestly, I'll be honest with you, dog, I'll
give you my I raally give my opinion, But my
opinion is he knows she's sleeping with people he don't
get along with, people that he's talked bad to her about,
and that's why Kanye is acting up. I think all
this I think eighty percent level. No. I think I

(01:43:12):
think it's only seems surface when you understand how Kanye.
Unless you understand Kanye. Think Kanye vests a lot into
this lady, the fact that he would even marry her
after seeing Rey J a sex tape, and that's part
of that. You're missing the points, right He's hiding in
her bushes, he's hiding outside her house, he's he's he's
talking about people she's sleeping with. He's keeping tabs on her.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Right now, bro, trap, you don't think that, Okay, So
when Pusha got with Kanye, you don't think he kind
of looked at him like a mentor almost kind of
like a not I'm always say father figure, but like
big brother figure, almost kind of like a guy who's
helping them go navigators through the music industry.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Let's get back, Let's get back to the to the
UMG Drake thing. Yeah, please do, please do not going
And you know, you want to see glasses. Have you
heard Kendrick versus? What can you say about it? So
I haven't heard it. I didn't hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
I'm about to smoke, So I'm going I'm about to
smoke from what just happened.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
So don was say, uh, so let's get back to
Drake using UMG to silence records, basically killing hip hop.
I think I think again, it's sets a bad precedent
the further this lawsuit goals, because U and G now
they have to be concerned with people suing them, and

(01:44:41):
it probably doesn't just stop with one artist. Like imagine
you talking ship, Like what about all these people in
Chicago talking about that lady's son tooka the little boy
that got killed in Chicago, like all of the people
who put out those records with them, people disrespecting that
little that passed away. They could sue this person.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
But do you think because how the culture looked at
Drake first suing, you think you think other rappers were
trying to following that his footsteps with that, I.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Mean it extends past rappers, it goes into just a
regular person. So you think this regular people gonna be
trying to sue the Jewish community. Jewish America could sue
whoever is distributing Ice Cubes album because he's been critical
the Korean America Union in the Korean like a Korean
American Union could actually sue Ice Cube because of the

(01:45:29):
things he was complaining about Korean people doing in our community.
Like it's that serious for UMG. So I don't know
if Drake can weaponize UMG in that way. In that way,
but at this point, the furthest lawsuit can go. UMG.
They have to be mindful of different people sewing them
based off things that were said. Shout out to Reravenes.

(01:45:54):
It's a good thing. Don't market beef with business money.
It's simple. If it's the beef, keep it street and
I throw a quarter million dollars behind it, Like Kate,
I stopped this BS. What about the money that was
through behind back to back Revenge? What about the money
that was through behind uh? I don't know every hit
record since the beginning of hip hop started, Like do

(01:46:15):
you think Shan should go back and sue KRS one
in the label that's distributing that record should ruthless sue
death Row right now because of you know, dred like,
don't that's ridiculous, that's ridiculous, you'd even say that. It's crazy.
Drop push. That's that's what pushed it, because because I'm

(01:46:37):
kind of even wondering if you if um G using
this as a marketing strategy. Also, well they not. He's
not with UMG no more anyway, So he's not. So
he's not with you anymore. The rock Nations.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
Okay, okay, yeah you did say rock Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
That's this is not true revenge. He did use the
honor and beef. That's how they market it. Back to Back.
You thought it just was on the chart by itself.
You thought it went to the top forty by itself.
What are you talking about? Of course they use label
money to market those songs. Thought it just happened on
his own. No, rock Nation is not under U and g.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Our Nation is independent with the whole thing right.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Copy glasses Drake beef with meak on SoundCloud. No, we didn't.
Back to Back is on streaming apps right now. Back
to Back was on as a top forty song in
the country. They were working at to radio revenge. That's
just a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
But but Where'sdom? WHAT'SDOM songs? That. Meek responded back with, though,
at this is.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
On Spotify on Spotify, that's on that's on Spotify right there, Revenge,
that's a lie, Like, look, man, this is how hip
hop has you. One person cannot come change it because
you don't like losing a battle. Meek didn't sue u
MG when they put out that song. It's not about

(01:47:57):
if it's on SoundCloud first, that's not The song is
being marketed, and it was marketed by Republic. It don't
matter where it dropped first. That's not important. The song
was being marketed by UMG bro like that's just a fact.
Like it was a priority at UMG at Republic at
that time. So what you're saying is wrong. Yes, he

(01:48:18):
did use a label to market a hit record in
the middle of a beef. That's this and Meek Meal,
what do you That's what I'm saying, Like it's simple. Yes,
Republic did. Like how you gonna, I'm signed to Republic, shit, Revenge,
I am signed to Republic. I was signed to Republic
even then. Yes, they did. Please stop arguing me as

(01:48:43):
if I don't know I know this, you don't know this.
He didn't fix anything. No, he don't have to stop
making that excuse now. It's tachy. I would rather you
say I don't like losing and I'm mad. Stop trying
to find justification. This is how hip hop has worked
since its Inceptionion don't make a rule now because you lose. No,

(01:49:08):
it did not happen that way. It was a priority.
It was marketed. What are you doing, bro? Like, why
do you have to lie? Just becauld you like somebody?
You don't have to lie. Hey, the way this record
I hate, I was killing my guy blah blah blah blah.
Don't say that this record wasn't marketed. That's just ridiculous. Bro.
Of course it was a priority. It was a p

(01:49:30):
It wasn't even just marketed at republic. It was a
priority in the system. Like, come on, man, I'm not
gonna lie to you about that, bro, What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
Yeah, Revenge pulled up to the ADHD the other day.
I was going that shit be for real for Jake though.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
I'm just saying I don't think it's about a Drake
fan or nothing. I'm just saying all of these songs
have been marketed. Hit Him Up was marketed. It was
released on a MAXI single. They they included three other
songs with it. Fuck with Dred is what marketed the
chronic them Thiss and Easy Easy came back and dropped
real motherfucking jeeves.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
So you think that, let me ask a question, and
you think that if if Family Matters would have hit more,
they would have marketed that more.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
They marketed. Now, it didn't just do what it did
on his own. None of these songs are doing what
they're doing on their own. You're not going to get
into the top ten of all records on the charts
without people telling sharing the story for you, You're not
going to get that high. This is what we started
within the conversation when I'm telling y'a about how much
marketing matters bro like, I got it that five or

(01:50:50):
six million, you feel me? And if you market it,
it's probably at forty two million.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
I got a question for you, right, So, so how
what they were talking about like hip hop like resembling
what wrestling is. You don't think there was a determined
went up before this Batterley even started. No, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
It's just listen man, as somebody who's been in so
when people keep I don't think people quite understand where
UMG is UMG is a conglomerate. Right, it's a conglomerate
of labels. Right that Like Innerscope was its own label,
they were distributed by Universal Music. Right, that's how it worked.
Same with Republic. Like when I first signed to Cash Money,

(01:51:36):
it was at Motown, then they moved it to Republic. Right.
These are simple things. So even the way people keep
talking about UMG, you don't quite get what you're talking about.
You don't understand how that works. You don't understand that
all of these are subsidiary under this kind of giant
thing that was more of a distribution company and now
it's transformed into something else. But it doesn't work that way, bro,

(01:51:59):
That's not how it works. Like the battle was just
a battle. When a song caught win, they got behind
the song that caught win.

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
I feel like at the end of the day, you
and whatever happened with that battle, you and G would
have one regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Though they won because Drake's song was number two. Regardless,
I don't know every song made them the money that
they made. I think I think Drake just lost. I mean,
Drake make money off the battle. Drake make money off
of the songs. The songs was charted number two, them
songs pay him in streams.

Speaker 3 (01:52:31):
Yeah, I think Drake just lost the battle, bro, And
I think it almost it seemed like a sore loser.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
He lost the battle.

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
But I don't think UMG had any state in any
claim of either artists because at the end of the day,
they get.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Paid from it all. So why would they try to
push Kendrick hit harder more than Drake. Just not how
it worked. It's just silly. It don't even make sense.
That's not how it would go. Shout out to revenge.
But I'm saying it's all corny. It's all laying calling
someone a PDF in a busines as you think that's
morally cool. I don't care if Dot one is ridiculous
goal post war. I don't care what he called him.

(01:53:06):
That's what Ven just saying. People in that battle keep
trying to say what he said. That's not important, Bro,
you can't make that the point. This is the thing.
The thing in a battle is to say the most
raggedy shit about somebody. It's not rooted in the fact,
if it's true, it's not rooted in the fact. It's
about making fun of someone.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
Today.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
It's because this has kind of been the same kind
of debate this whole time, and it's kind of ridiculous
when you think about it. It's like, bro, I don't
care stop saying it's about UMG. UMG promotes records. That's
their simple job. It's not about it is about the record.
You can't get mad that you're in a battle with
someone saying that UMG shouldn't promote pdf Kaos just said no,

(01:53:56):
he should. What do you mean they shouldn't promote anything.
If that's the case, it's not They're all right. That's
like saying they should promote. You can't tell people out
of battle, and you can't tell record companies how to
promote records. You can't cry, oh he said this about me.
They promoted the record where he just said this man
slept with his wife. This man these kids ain't his

(01:54:18):
They promoted that record. They're not going to lose the lawsuit. Revenge,
They're just not. It's not gonna work that way. It's
nothing you're gonna do. If he lost a lawsuit, it
would bankrupt him. Revenge Canada is they're trying to keep
finding his face, bro to where they keep trying to say, oh,
it's this line. That's not why he's mad. He's mad

(01:54:39):
because he couldn't tell that company what to do. That's it.
It's not about him saying PT if that don't matter,
that's not nothing. He ain't lost a business deal because
of PDF. It's just not It don't make sense, bro,
that's just dumb. Forgive me. It's the thought of it
is ridiculous. You keep making it about this. It's about

(01:55:01):
the complete understanding of what the record was doing. That's
not their job, bro, that's what they're trying to work
on itself. Forgive for me, man, because it's just like,
it's not dumb. It's just you're holding on to things
that don't make sense. If you're holding on this is

(01:55:21):
why you don't engage in competition, if you don't want
to lose. You can't complain that the label got a
record and then they promoted the record. They promoted family matters,
where you were saying the same thing about this man.
His family is children. You were saying all of this,
and it was all good when they spent the money
on your shit. Now, if Drake went the lawsuit, that's

(01:55:43):
when I feel like hip hop is in danger. If
Drake won the lawsuit, hip hop is dead. I feel
like that's when nobody would sign people they would sign.
They would start to sign lily white acts who don't
say anything. They will stop signing people that look like us,
and they would stop letting people voice concerns about things
and concern of a.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
Lawsuit, Like anybody who gives you who care about hip
hop should be pulling for Drake to lose his lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
And that's my point. That's what I'm frustrated when I'm
talking to other brothers, especially because it's like, what do
you think you're doing? This is going to hurt us.
This ain't gonna hurt They're gonna move and move it
into rock and Wall where it's a space full of
white people that ain't saying nothing. That's who they're gonna
invest in. Do you know that every time somebody says
something that that can if that happened, that would be

(01:56:30):
a lawsuit against everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Do you feel that Drake is the biggest infiltrated within
hip hop right now? If he wins his lawsuit, No,
he would be.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
The sole entity of Satan to end the world in
the in hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
It would end antichrist, antichrist antichrist.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
You can't say, hey, you know what, this is the
time I want to complain about labels promoting beasts. You
can't pick this time revenge. You can't pick this time.
Didn't pick it when it was back to back. You
didn't pick it in none of the other beats. You
didn't never pick it, So you can't pick it this time.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
I like to just I like to just play both
both sides of it. Though, I think that nobody has
ever been really like character, you know what I'm saying,
diminished within. I think this is like the most we
had within hip hop.

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
Like you think Drake character was assassinated the most ever
in that Yeah, it really wasn't, bro I think it is.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
It's not and I hate it. Can I say this?
Can I say this?

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
I don't know if Drake was I think Drake definitely
lost the rat battle, but I don't think he was
the most talked about worst ever in hip hop battle.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
I think Drake did a lot of the damage to itself.

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
What the artist has ever been like like this? Mantle
within looking like being looked at a certain way.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
Nobody looks at Drake like a pedophile. Bro Like the
Canada Children's Service is not investigating him with his son. Man,
what are we talking about? Stop with the silliness. I
think if Drake didn't sue, he would have been fine.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
With that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Look, this is hilarious. You want them to promote black
on black violence and not keep it in the street.
That is just ridiculously lazy. As a thought. This is
artistic competition. They're competing artistically. Not one person was harmed. Bro,
you can't be black when you want to be Come on, man,

(01:58:37):
when you talking about Jewish man?

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
Now Jewish man?

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
Why are y'all doing that? Y'all had no problem? I
didn't you not filowing a petition to say take down
no other record?

Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
Like broa what the fuck? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
You don't have to defend this out of some sense
of righteousness or a false connection to somebody. You could
be like, hey, that's laying don't do that. No body
was horned. People were not horned. What are you talking about?
Where was people horned? You think people was hormed when
they came and shot that man house up? You think

(01:59:11):
that has something to do with this? You know that
don't have nothing to do with this.

Speaker 3 (01:59:16):
I think if Kendrick had any kind of anything that
Drake could have could have wrapped, could have tied to
pedophilia too, I think Drake would have hit him with
that too.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
I don't think Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
I think at that point in time the battle wrap
wrap the gloves was off. I think if Drake, if
Kendrick has something that Drake could hit with pedophilia, Drake
would hit him first.

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
It's not about about pedophilia. Don't matter that nobody cares.
Nobody fucking cares because don't nobody think the niggas a pedophile,
don't nobody. Ain't nobody finish stopping kids as much as
they thought, as much as they think Gun is a snitch,
and they ain't did nothing to him. No, Drake can't

(01:59:57):
babyshit our kids. No, yes, nobody, nobody, nothing. But I
ain't even dropped my kids off a drink out. Nobody
fucking I'm my old daughter.

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
Going around Drake, Drake mighty dead little A couple of friends.
I feel like maybe uh uh, Brownie probably was like
I can't hold up, we.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Can't hang out.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
Rosscott hit in the face because he said something to
that man that was out of line. And got him
into a fight. They didn't just hit him because they
woke up white boy. He said something to that man
that pissed that man off, and that man trip. That
ain't no black on black violence, and that was a
white man and a black man, so that definitely wouldn't
be black on black violence. Why Drake so black?

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
To everybody?

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
Drake is black? I'm not.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
I don't like doing the race thing when the Drake I.

Speaker 3 (02:00:42):
Mean, Drake is I don't know trap to me, man,
if you're gonna be black, be black, though, Like, don't don't.

Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
Handle this like a black dude. Then I don't think
this got nothing to do with black. This is simple.
He said it in the lawsuit and it's up to
us to see it. And that's what I'm saying, Like
I get what I pushing, and I get with all
these people mad, it's simple, bro, Like you wanted them
to take the record down, they're not taking the record down.
Who the fuck are you? And that's been But I

(02:01:09):
blame you and g and I blame Republic for cave
into every artist because they're successful. Because he took down
the record, the Adidine record, because he took down the
other times he was able to use his influence with
them people and able to make things happen on the
back end. Right, that's the problem. They gave in to
him because he was successful, and that's the problem when
you're not hip hop. What I'm telling Revenge is we

(02:01:32):
cannot cave in as hip hop. The business is already
caving in to him. They already caved in to him
in the first place. The culture cannot cave into him.
We cannot. We know it's wrong, and it's okay to
say it's wrong. We should not stand in nowhere else,
but take that shit down.

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
I think if Revenge is a real hip hop fan
and not just a Drake fan, he should be pulling
for Drake to lose his lawsuit if he wants hip
hop to be what it is, but it's wanted to
continue you to be what it is, because if Drake
winners lawsuit, hip hop is not.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
Going to be the same anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Thank you for the five dollars. Appreciate you, queen. If
Drake wins everyone, he just needs to follow class action
lawsuit against him. He literally the pot calling the kettle black.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
Yeah, so so, Revenge, you gotta look at it like this,
though too so now they start using disc records as
evidence towards towards anything, towards somebody's character and stuff, the defamation,
and they're gonna start they're gonna start using lyrics upon
hip hop towards anything though. You know what I'm saying
to us, to somebody that's you know what I'm saying, like,

(02:02:35):
they're gonna use all that, all the music that little
dirt made, you know what I'm saying towards his towards
his his case that he got though, you know what
I'm saying. You gotta understand the artistic expression right there.
It's gonna be bad, bad, It's gonna be bad.

Speaker 3 (02:02:52):
A great point earlier about HUCA and all the it's
people going right here talking about dead brothers and sons exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
Do you understand what's happening to revenge? Like they would
be able to suit so many people. It would be
the end of corporate America investing into black art. That's
that this thing we call hip hop. Bro y'all don't
get that, but you're looking at it happened. There's a
narrative that push your t just explained to you. That's
causing corporate dollars to not want to invest into black

(02:03:24):
art that we call hip hop. Yeah, yes they can pete.
They can use this as a precedent in a civil case.
If this defamation worked. All these people that was talking stuff,
talking about that boy that died in Chicago, what's his name?
Tuco or they smoking on.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
Even that FBG duck mother was already sewing the pawn
she's got. She's got a little swogun drumg right now,
saying that they fueled the violence. You know, I'm saying
within the music that made her signed up to get killed.
You know what I'm saying, which could possibly be true.

Speaker 1 (02:03:58):
Though, imagine you start sewing a promoting all the songs,
disrespecting her son and defaming her son. She got a
better case than than Drake. Shout out to oldis, thank
you for the five dollars. Drake is upset. He couldn't
make them take that song down. He didn't have the
juice he thought he had. He thought he could put
dot on a shelf, and it felt all the way.
He got mad, and and he want to, he want to,

(02:04:22):
he want to sue. Now, Yes, this concept of precedents
not just for criminal but from a civil perspective. Trust me, Pete,
this would be the end of hip hop. People are
less like people. If he's steatled in that case, it
would be the end of hip hop, Pete. It would
be the end. They would have to start centering records,
and once you start centering hip hop, you lose what

(02:04:44):
makes it hip hop. Like, you have to understand why
this matters. Bro y'all, I get it, Pete, Revenge, y'all
both like Drake y'all see y'all connect with him in
some way. I'm not saying you byas I'm telling you,
this is the end of black art and that we
call hip hop.

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
If this were to happen, I would like I wonder
if they were in this situation where they have shooge.

Speaker 1 (02:05:06):
Also, like if Revenge was in a battle and he
lost it in somebody cut well, he would he wouldn't.
He wouldn't, but they think they would. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
People might a lot of people that feel as if
like you're saying something about me that isn't actually true
and it's becoming the biggest record in the world. I
think a lot of people look at the same way though.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
You would suit no the things that wasn't true. The
things that ll said about Mod wasn't necessarily true. The
things Mod said about LLL, the things that Dre said
about Easy wasn't real. The things that Cute said about
n W ain't real. Most of the ship niggas talk
about our exaggerated ideas, like the whole, the whole Jewish

(02:05:52):
America can come soue fucking priority for fucking Ice Cute
what he said about people? What the fuck do you not?
What do y'all not get? You understand? The dangerous precedence
is set towards black art that we call hip hop.
Bro It's a problem. That's not a technicality. It's not

(02:06:13):
a breach of contract. That's not a breach of contract.
There is nothing in this contract that says somebody could
not promote a song to fame and drink. That's not
in the contract. That's not in his contract. It's not
in his contract. That's not true. He's suing them because
they wouldn't take the song down. He said it in

(02:06:34):
the lawsuit. He reached out saying, Hey, this song is
causing my life personal harm. You guys shouldn't promote it.
You need to take it down. They said nigga, are
you crazy? And they kept it up. He said his
house got shot up fresh because of the song. And
you know that's not true. Fresh because you connected no
different than all of us. He's lying. He's not suing

(02:06:56):
based off a breach of contract. He's suing off defamation.
It's not a breach of contract. That's a specific lawsuit.
It's called breach of contract. He's swing because the things
Dot said about him. UMG promoted it and it was
defaming his character. That's a simple lawsuit. It's not deep.
It's not anything extra. He thought they were gonna take

(02:07:19):
the song down. The song was too big. It was
no chance they was going to lose the biggest record
they had in the last ten years. And I told
y'all it was the biggest record they had in the
last ten years. There's no way you could get in.
The one thing a record label gonna do is promote
a hit record. Bro, it was going to happen. So

(02:07:39):
it's not about anything. He's mad because they didn't take
the song down. He's saying this song is causing personal
damage to his existence, to his business. That's why you
don't get in a battle, white man. To me, You
cannot start a fight, hit somebody and then call the police.

(02:08:00):
If you lose the fight, you cannot even fight back.
They're not going to hold your ship legit.

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
If he wins this lawsuit. We I don't know what
rappers will be able to say at all.

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
They wouldn't be Corporate dollars will stop investing into this
black art that we call hip hop straight up, because
we talk too much about other people that these labels
don't know about. And it's it's sets a horrible president.
The presidents on a on a on a on a
on a on a civil level is out of this world.

(02:08:33):
Even if they decided to say, all right, we're gonna
censure away, the ADL could sue the company that's selling
Cube records. The ADL could sue the company that that's
selling Cube records right now. Like if you're able to
get a defamation lawsuit off on art, it changes the
landscape and it's going to inadvertently affect black artists period.

(02:09:00):
There's nothing that's cool about this. I don't care if
you like Drake, I hate Drake. If you come from
anywhere that we come from anywhere where you understand the
importance of hip hop giving black people an opportunity to
tell a story to be heard. If you care about that, Bro,
you cannot be okay with this. This ain't even a
Drake and Kendrick thing. This is a hip hop thing.

Speaker 3 (02:09:22):
And like if Kendrick did it, I don't nobody would
be Anybody who wanted to hip hop to stay hip
hop wouldn't be deciding with this Like this ain't that
Drake or Kendrick fan thing.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
This is a hip hop thing.

Speaker 3 (02:09:33):
Like if they win this lawsuit, hip hop would no
longer be what y'all love and what y'all like right now.

Speaker 2 (02:09:38):
They'd be different.

Speaker 1 (02:09:42):
Shout out to Nashawan, thank you for the five dollars.
The labels have been getting out of the hip hop
business for some time now because it's not profitable and
too risky. It's not gonna just be the labels, Bro,
corporate dollars, Nashan corporate dollars, not just the labels MacDonald's,
make Donald's corporate dollars. You alright, trapping yeah, corporate dollars. Bro,

(02:10:07):
This nigga, he was up like a sleep. It might
be talking. Listen, listening, listen, listen, I'm listening now. Shout out.
Just listen to your crazy take it Adap, what up?

Speaker 2 (02:10:21):
Snigga?

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
Trap over here gone Tell Traf, I'm never going.

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
I'm never going.

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
I'm listening to what you're saying. I don't want to
respond too much. I'm saying crazy ship.

Speaker 1 (02:10:31):
All I'm saying got to smoke too. I said crazy shit.

Speaker 2 (02:10:37):
I had a smoke on, I had a smoke break.

Speaker 1 (02:10:39):
That's not true, bro. It's things that Travis Scott said
about somebody that can be considered defamation. Trust me, one
thing about people in this space. There's somebody who can
be offended by something you said. It's just bad, and
it's okay to be not you know what I mean.

(02:11:00):
It's okay. It's okay to be like it's wrong. You
could be like flat out is wrong, and you could
flat out stand up against it. It's okay. You can't
get mad. Shout out to mister Fresh. Drake has been
in multiple battles, but you don't know Fresh what he's
doing on the back end of these battles. I know
what he's doing on the back end of these battles.

(02:11:20):
I never cared because I understand his position in the
music business. I understand when they took the story of
Addie Don. Damn, I understand what certain things didn't get
clear because people didn't want to offend him. But that's
not hip hop. That's the business looking out the business.
Didn't look out at the business and lookout this time
he mad right now, something came of it. The story

(02:11:43):
of Adi Don wasn't a smash hit record. The songs
that other people that meet me put out work smash
hit records.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
He caught us.

Speaker 1 (02:11:50):
He was the benefactor of a smash hit record right
when he's dissing another artist, and now he's the victim
of a smash hit record when the record is dissing artists.
It's okay either way. What's not okay is to avoid
accountability and then complain about the label promoting records. That's
what labels do. They promoted Real motherfucker GE's, they promoted Drea,

(02:12:13):
they promoted no Vasaline historically, they like they promoted Ether,
they promoted Takeover. This is what they do. That is
not true fresh ever they want to. It's not in
the contract. That cannot defame him. That is not in
no contract with no Universal Music Group, Republic, cash money, nobody.

(02:12:33):
He's suing because they are promoting a record to defame him.
It's against the law or human beings civilly to defame
anybody period. It's nothing specific with UMG Fresh. Nothing. He
knows the rules. He mad that they didn't work in
his favor, and it's not okay. This is the first
time he was the victim of a hit record. He

(02:12:56):
was the victim of a hit record.

Speaker 2 (02:12:58):
That's this.

Speaker 1 (02:12:59):
He passed. I Got You Fresh, he passed. He passed
it off to Meet Mill. It was okay.

Speaker 3 (02:13:09):
But you know what the crazy thing about it about
this is he is he put it in the record
that he was gonna make a hit, a hitch, a
hit song that was gonna get played in the club
over and over against Meek Mills. He think it's cool,
like he said, he said that as a presidents in
battle Rap to make a record sol though in the
battle Rap that it gets played in the club on
the top. But then when it happened to him, now

(02:13:30):
he's going to go cry and tell.

Speaker 2 (02:13:34):
Oh, So let me look, I think I think he
looking at it a point like this though, Right, I'm
gonna bring you all this money, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:13:45):
M hm he said. He said, we don't got to imagine,
he said, why he was suing them.

Speaker 2 (02:13:53):
So now I've been bringing you all this money for
all these years, and I'm broke down into the whole
streaming platform like like I'm the main and faced me
and Taylor Swipper is the main face that got you
into y'all next yr, next business venture, from from from
physical sales on on the streaming y'all use me as
as that person, you know what I'm saying. And now
all of a sudden, you're trying to you're trying to

(02:14:14):
push me out of the spot right now because this
dude came out.

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
Was that imaginary story is not how it works. Drake
didn't lose any negotiation power. You don't lose negotiation power
because you lose a rap battle. He's still streaming the
most amount of record. That's what he lose doing. What
are he los doing? He didn't lose nothing except his
fucking ego and pride.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
He didn't lose.

Speaker 1 (02:14:36):
He didn't lose coach your cashet. That's what happened to
you when he rap battle. When he sued, he even
lost it. Did jay Z lose coaching? No, you win
a rap battle, or you lose a rap battle. Yes,
that's why you don't compete. If you don't want to
lose a fight. He want to go suit, lose negotiations power,
he doesn't lose nothing, loses nothing, Drake. Now it's catalog

(02:15:00):
still is the most stream things, songs and everything. What
are y'all talking about? That's what they negotiate with. Then
I'm black. Well, you know what, you lost that battle.
We're gonna take two hundred million back on this side.
That's not how it works. How it works. Oh you
know what, you lost that battle or that little extra
two hundred million, Nigga, his shit is streaming. That's what

(02:15:21):
they paid for.

Speaker 2 (02:15:23):
Right now, right so you was if you was to
be on on Drake's team right now, it will be
his next best move to make right now.

Speaker 1 (02:15:30):
Take the fucking lawsuit down and make some fucking records.
Take the hell roll the fuck up, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:15:38):
Niggas in lost fights and did and it was in
some of the greatest fights in history, and and and
because this was one of the greatest rap battles ever.
He was a part of the part of the biggest
rap battle all time. If five years from now seven
eight years from now, he would have been a legend
off this rap battle like would have looked at him
like Sigat off a street fighter like bars and like, man,

(02:15:58):
you must have you was a warrior won or loss.
But now he went to go Thatt'll tell now we're
looking at him. I ain't even one of those dudes.
He'd be like, oh, he ain't black, he ain't white.
I've never done that kind of ship making.

Speaker 1 (02:16:10):
Me look at him like it makes my point, Like
when I said you not hip hop, you just went
over the goddamn top.

Speaker 2 (02:16:18):
Yeah started with Glasses and ship like yeah, Jake Glasses
started this whole ship.

Speaker 1 (02:16:25):
I guess so. But what's funny to me is shut
out to Fresh. I think it's weird. But he never
sued before. That's why I think I play went on this.
That's because when he told him to take the story
of Addie Don down, they did. But they had a
reason and took him down to the story of Addie
Done was different because oh boy didn't want it over
his music. So that's part of why. But it's not

(02:16:49):
he's sue because he's never been the victim of a
hit record. This, He's never as much as people got him,
nobody never got him like this. And it's also because
you're going up against a different type of motherfucking opponent.
You're going up against another champion. You're not going up
against pushing t who don't have a bunch of top

(02:17:09):
forty smash records. You're not going against meek Mill, who
really make really good girl records and stuff like. You
win against somebody that was perfectly for your matchup, and
he got the better of it, and he and he
used your blueprint, And that's funny because it's not as blueprint.
They been doing that with Dred is the same thing
that ship ain't nothing new, You ain't, but you ain't. No,

(02:17:31):
he ain't.

Speaker 3 (02:17:31):
You ain't never seen a song dis popular. Dred was
more popular than back to Back.

Speaker 2 (02:17:40):
Way more was more popular than back to back?

Speaker 1 (02:17:43):
What so you were?

Speaker 3 (02:17:44):
So they was playing Dred in the clubs. I think
it was, don't get me wrong, bigger than.

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
Back to back way bigger. Where did Dred chart? I
don't know. It probably charged the top ten, because that's
what Brooke five.

Speaker 2 (02:18:04):
It was huge.

Speaker 3 (02:18:05):
I got I gotta figure, I got somebody gott tell
me what they charted? They tried to hide the back
to back.

Speaker 2 (02:18:10):
I look at that right now, I got you.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
I don't know, but I would bet it did. Dred
was huge. Imagine easy suing Universal. Oh you let this
man say anything about me? This man they called me gay?
Now what shout out to Jacob Landry. But he did
not have bargaining power he did when he got the
four hundred million record deal. He is not selling seven

(02:18:33):
hundred thousand and one million that he used to when
he got the four hundred million. He's selling about half
of that. Therefore, winning the battle would have been what
he needed to bargain. That don't make sense, Jacob. That's
not how it works, bro, that's not You can't win
a battle and get six hundred million that nobody pays
you extra. Because you want a battle, you better have
some hit records. As simple as that. If you got

(02:18:55):
hit records, they gonna pay you. If you don't got nothing,
you're not getting paid. So Drake is gonna get the
same money he was gonna always get because he had
a hit record. He just had a hit record. They
just marketed this hit record. Now he's not losing money
because he lost a rap battle. Oh you know what
Kendrick got you on that last one. We're gonna take
this two hundred million back. Think about how that sound?
How does that even? How do you manifest that thought

(02:19:16):
of your mind? You lost this old rap battle. I mean,
you just had the number two songs in the country.
That's a smash hit record, that's double platinum. But you
lost that rap battle. So we gonna take two hundred million.
That's crazy, Jacob, Think about how crazy that is. That
don't even make no sense. Oh you know when you
lost this rap battle, we gotta take two hundred million off.

(02:19:36):
Now you back to the four hundred million. That shit
sound damn as fuck. And I don't mean to call you.
I'm not calling you dumb, bro, but Jesus Christ, I'm not.
But that's how people really say it, Like, you know,
he lost negotiation power because he lost a battle. He
was finna get six hundred million. Now he backed down
a four hundred million. Why this ain't boxing. I don't

(02:20:04):
know that there's a sport. They have been lying the
whole time. Ll Cooj, one of the founders of this
thing on the record side, keep saying it's not and
y'all keep listening to these niggas that came out two
days ago telling y'all a sport.

Speaker 2 (02:20:15):
It's not it's a sports.

Speaker 1 (02:20:16):
Niggas out there niggas want to compete. Sports ain't anything.
I'm trying to realize why people think it's a sport,
because in their mind, the only thing niggas ever competed
at in their life is sports. Nigga, I compete in grades,
Nigga education. Ain't no motherfucker sport. But we both take final.
I'm trying to get a better final. We can compete
at anything. Niggas. The only thing niggas ever compete at

(02:20:38):
a sports. That's why, nigga, you know it's a sport.
It ain't a fucking sport. You can't beat Lebron James,
ain't gonna be good at fifty. A nigga can still
rap at fifty. It is art and it can be competitive.
Some people want to make better art than yours. It
don't make it a sports. Sports, my friend, are not
the only thing people complain about competing. Man, It's not

(02:21:04):
they don't. They can compete in a million different things.
You could compete in a lot of things in life.
It don't all got to be basketball. I know y'all
love basketball, brother, but this it ain't got to everything.
Ain't got to be basketball. Everything don't got to be basketball,
and don't got to be sports. It's not a sport, bro,
It's not. I get it, and I'm not gonna argue

(02:21:24):
with everybody's saying it. But trust me, the first time
you realize it is not a sport, you be better.

Speaker 2 (02:21:30):
You be better.

Speaker 1 (02:21:31):
You're not competing with nobody but your self until you
into a competition with somebody. That's the first time sports.
You always competing with somebody. Speaking of sports, just off
the topic for a minute.

Speaker 2 (02:21:42):
What y'all think about them?

Speaker 1 (02:21:43):
Next? Man, I finally owe you congratulations, Yes, exactly, congratulations.
I wanted to say that before we get up out
of here. Congratulations. Trap commuted Trap No Sinners Lie to
Lunch hour every Monday, Wednesday and Friday at noon Pacific
Standard time right here on Digital soap Box. Click the

(02:22:05):
thumbs up button. We almost had three thousand viewers, oh
said three thousand viewers. Thank y'all at the Lust table
for showing up. Man. I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:22:13):
Pee.

Speaker 1 (02:22:14):
You know I love you, Riz, I know I love y'all. Man,
y'all fuck crazy, man. It's okay. It's okay to sometimes
be like, man, my boy wrong. I'll be thinking my
people be wrong all the time. Yeah, that we protect
this hip hop from chuck. Soho would he be wrong?
So he said that ice T Ship. I was like,

(02:22:34):
that's wrong. Don't that's not cool. Don't say don't that's
not cool. D peaked the eight where the back to
back peak at.

Speaker 2 (02:22:42):
Somebody said, oh, oh, back to back peak that number
one within the Hot one hundred, hold on the Hot
one hundred. I don't see what it was. As far
as the hold on, I did bring that up. I
brought that up too. So it says it says dre
Day reached number eight in the Billboard Hot one hundred,
and it was major. It was major on the Doctor

(02:23:03):
Drake Krone got back to back. Back to back by
Drake reached number one on the Hot R and B
and hip Hop Songs beat that number twenty on twenty
three on the Billboard Hot one hundred, bigger than back
to back. Yeah, it was so. But I wanted to

(02:23:23):
just say this as far as the whole thing, as
far as like hip hop not being a competitive sport.

Speaker 1 (02:23:29):
Though say, we say it's not competitive. We just said
it's not a sport.

Speaker 2 (02:23:34):
But but but anything that's is considered to be competitive
will be considered like being a sport.

Speaker 1 (02:23:38):
Though white people say, because that's the only thing Black
people know, they believe they compete at.

Speaker 2 (02:23:44):
Right, all right, So now so now when when, when,
when they have poetry jams and ship like that, do
they choose who's the best poet within that within that
moment right there? But I think the hell on that though,
So I.

Speaker 1 (02:23:59):
Want to poet, mm hmm, you got that, you got that,
You got the Angelou all Star angel Jersey, she.

Speaker 2 (02:24:07):
She's up there has been one of the best poets
of a number one, number one, number one, maybe zero,
maybe zero, maybe z. They will come before one. They
will come before one. So the reason I'm saying that
is this, though, is because like as far as with
the hip hop, it's always been a braggadoc. You know
what I'm saying, You're always been a bragadoc's round form though,

(02:24:32):
it always been it always been where you when you
say how much how much better I am than you?
You know what I'm saying like that, So.

Speaker 1 (02:24:40):
But again, but to relate to sports, because that's the
only thing brothers competing. It's not a sport. It makes
it's different than the sport because you don't have to compete.

Speaker 3 (02:24:49):
Ever, yeah, it's different forms of competition everything. There's no
way it's not compete sport.

Speaker 2 (02:24:54):
You don't call the call they called being a gladiator
of sport.

Speaker 1 (02:24:59):
Yeah, yes, I mean it's yes, you actually compete it.
You compete it with lions. But again, Trap, you don't
have to compete in hip hop like Drake, didn't have
to be into this battle. You could have just skipped
it over. It wouldn't have mattered.

Speaker 2 (02:25:16):
You see when I say that ship though, Bro, it's
this all came from the competitive nature.

Speaker 1 (02:25:21):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:25:22):
It was always looked upon.

Speaker 1 (02:25:23):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (02:25:24):
Listen when the MC came on on that stage. You know,
my DJ better than your DJ. Bro, My dance is
better than your dances.

Speaker 1 (02:25:31):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:25:32):
It was always a competitive nature though within the throw.

Speaker 1 (02:25:34):
Bro, you can't agreeing that some people compete, But then
there's certain people who don't compete.

Speaker 3 (02:25:39):
Like Trap, you talking to somebody who who let who
let some ship slide? Like you didn't didn't battle everybody
who tried to battle him if he not a hip hop.

Speaker 2 (02:25:49):
Artist, yeah, anybody else. If it wasn't Cube, you don't
responded that to him, you expected, you expected your vets.

Speaker 1 (02:26:00):
It depends. I'm gonna fight the battle that makes his
for me to fight like, I'm not taking every fight
because something nigga think he want to fight. Nigga, I'm
not fighting you when I I'm gonna fight you when
I feel like it because I'm gonna put myself in
position to win. So if a certain nigga said the
wrong thing to me and it's his day, it's his day.
If he said to me and it's a day, I'm
not fucking with him. I'm just not fucking with him. Coach.

Speaker 2 (02:26:21):
What he's doing, Coach, I still what he's doing, Coach,
I see what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (02:26:24):
Coach.

Speaker 2 (02:26:26):
What he's doing right now is he's trying to He's
trying to lay up. He's trying to lay it up
for his man. Not responding back to Joey Badass. What
he's doing, because trust me, he's responding back to Joey.
So you stop that there, You're gonna get You ain't
responding holding this, holding this, He's gonna get.

Speaker 1 (02:26:43):
He's gonna gonna give her them fifty cent clips. He's
gonna get something you ain't. Ain't nobody getting away. We
don't let niggas get away. Don't ain't with you. Ain't
got away, nigga. Ain't nobody getting away. I just ain't
ship with you.

Speaker 2 (02:26:54):
Responding time, No.

Speaker 1 (02:26:56):
I might put a basketball and I might play in
his sports. And then elboys asked like, remember you said
that ship about me. No, it ain't.

Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
The Big Three. You don't go to the Big three?

Speaker 1 (02:27:06):
Call might we might? I might. I might play Cuban
chess one day and just beating. Yeah, remember that ship
you said you never think you could suck with No,
But I ain't letting that nigga get that ship off. Niggas,
ain't we not. Ain't no, ain't no nigga too, little
bro we bullying niggas in elementary too. Ain't nobody getting
away with nothing. It's just whinning. We're gonna get you.

(02:27:29):
That's how we That's how we came up. I'm telling
you how we came up. In that back house over
there in Carson.

Speaker 2 (02:27:35):
Tell tell DoD to stay on the victory lap right now.
He don't want the problem niggas, Brooklyn pull.

Speaker 1 (02:27:43):
Up, motherfucker. We can trap. I'm talking to my nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:27:52):
We could go.

Speaker 1 (02:27:53):
We're putting clips and bullets right now while we chilling.
As soon as niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:27:57):
Stopped differently, niggas difference.

Speaker 1 (02:28:01):
I'm just the one thing about us, the one thing
about us that came up this way. We treated everybody
like they Mike Tyson. Even Drake got treated like he
was Mike Tyson. That's why I wasn't Drake.

Speaker 2 (02:28:19):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (02:28:21):
I got a question. Do you think if you would
have went back at you, you're making the top fifties.
He would have been on game level right now if
he put it back at you.

Speaker 2 (02:28:29):
But he missed this moment. He missed this movement.

Speaker 1 (02:28:34):
That was what that was. After one he said, have
just he said he should have.

Speaker 2 (02:28:37):
He said, what do you the oozy on?

Speaker 1 (02:28:40):
First off, there's two things. One I don't know ice Q,
I cannot listen. I get niggas get hit and drive.
What am I supposed to? Dude? Just makes it up.
That's what you said niggas is doing. I don't know
how to do that. I'm a real nigga. I'm barely
learning how to be an artist. Trapped truck. This is
what Trump said. I love ice Q, and I think

(02:29:03):
if you were the battle of ice Q and you,
my man would have got you smoke Glasses.

Speaker 2 (02:29:12):
Giants, giants ice C got.

Speaker 1 (02:29:15):
Hear him, y'all would have You had to pull up you.
You were the king of a nigga. Being older, you
be like man, you got that nigga old ice Q.
That was no baseline ice Q. That was that was
dropped the kool aid. That was. That was the Rome
and Payton ice cue.

Speaker 2 (02:29:30):
That was.

Speaker 1 (02:29:35):
Say now you can't battle that nigga. Shout out to
my nigga cast away from the bay, who get it?
Glasses wasn't really a rapper like that back then?

Speaker 2 (02:29:44):
That would have made it better. No, it wasn't because
all I wanted to do. That's why Little Wayne smoked
him on his own song.

Speaker 1 (02:29:49):
Though it's true smoked me. You don't know about that, noot.
But no way smoking Glass on his own song.

Speaker 2 (02:29:58):
It's not crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:30:00):
Ain't niggas to like, like, what do we say that
smoke me?

Speaker 5 (02:30:03):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:30:04):
You think it's woking? Now?

Speaker 2 (02:30:05):
Hold on, you think right now.

Speaker 1 (02:30:07):
Not even not not even in his second, not even
a second. I don't know about that the record, They
all know about that. I told Chuck the same thing.
I'm testing Chuck. I'm like, man, you want to get
smoked Chuck that day over that you know that Chuck
smoke your record that day with Glasses used to just
be the sharp dealer homie that's a gang banger, and
he got some rap song that day over. We're all
the same.

Speaker 5 (02:30:27):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:30:31):
I would say this though, trap about g saying this
ship because you might have a point. You Joey and
them could really.

Speaker 1 (02:30:38):
Rap Cray smoking smoking smoking glass.

Speaker 2 (02:30:45):
Smoking glasses right there, No, no.

Speaker 1 (02:30:48):
No, okay, Glasses may be having some verse, but all
they do the hardest. Listen all that over with all
game all Chuck, Chuck, wag that ship done this all
know what.

Speaker 3 (02:31:00):
A niggas really rapping? When he rapped and then he
his verses done, you'd be like, damn, he's probably should
have win it. That's aught verses be Now I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:31:07):
Like, let off on that clip.

Speaker 1 (02:31:10):
All I'm saying is listen when when cue this me?
First off, I didn't know ice Cube bro. I just
didn't know him, so I didn't know what to say.
I would have sounded like a fan trying to make
up story. Know you would not yo, Listen what I
want to know, is this what I want? When that
ship came out, I couldn't do nothing but smile ice
cube crazy right to the booth.

Speaker 2 (02:31:32):
No, No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:31:32):
I couldn't even be bad. Listen. It was like, Nigga,
cue this me. That's fire, that's fire, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:31:40):
That was.

Speaker 1 (02:31:43):
Me in me. That's why he should have made the
top fifty right. Shit, that's how I felt trapped. You
feel like that.

Speaker 2 (02:31:52):
You should feel like that.

Speaker 1 (02:31:55):
The streets side was like, when I see I'm a
fire ship that we're gonna get down. The rap pir
side that was trying to develop into a rapper was
so like in disbelief that he said my name. He yes,
I'm the man, like like you know who I am?

(02:32:16):
And he said Bobbie Bou said, that's something I only
said on my mixtape. You heard my mix tape.

Speaker 2 (02:32:21):
Yeah, it's like you're talking.

Speaker 1 (02:32:25):
Heard my mixed tape. You should be in the top
fifty eight.

Speaker 2 (02:32:28):
That's complex complex over.

Speaker 1 (02:32:31):
I was hoping it blew up.

Speaker 2 (02:32:33):
I'm like, I hope everybody here this yeah listener, listener,
I want all of y'all to go out there. When
the song dropped, Yeah Monday and I want you to
tell me who got who? We got Instagram, We got
a bunch of wet.

Speaker 1 (02:32:55):
Had the best verse. That's my pig and you know
what his verse, his versus hard It's dope because at
first I thought it was the best. Joey verse got
better with the video went crazy crazy be snapping on
niggas for a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:33:14):
Induced never I've heard about at least never get near
ten songs by then. By now, I ain't never heard
them do a whack verse versus.

Speaker 1 (02:33:24):
No Lie Man, that nigga said my name? I was like,
did that nigga say my name? I rewinded that show.
I was like, oh my god, this nigga And he
didn't say like he said Bobby, Like, nigga, you heard
my mixtape. Would it be whack for you to discube?

Speaker 2 (02:33:38):
Now? No?

Speaker 1 (02:33:40):
Two ways?

Speaker 2 (02:33:41):
Fuck that dis cube? Yes, yes, yes, let me do
it on the intro. Let me do on the intro
at least so funck that man were melting down side
of ice. You know what I'm saying. On solid water, man,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:33:52):
You just do all the words. See the West Coast
like that. It can't just be a bunch of words
and sign out. You gotta ship. That's crazy, That's what
I got. I'm just saying, you gotta say. That's why
I take this battle rap shiit serious because I'm really
finna go all the way there. I'm not finna be

(02:34:13):
playing nigga. I'm not finna be joking nigga. This ain't nigga.
Is serious nigga. I'm'na beat you up in real life
and I'm out rapping. That's just how I feel. But
all that day with tuning them out rapping me, tuning them,
can't I wrap me no more? Tune my love with
that ship done? I don't know. Look the best nigga
rapping today. J Cole can't out rap me. Kendrick can't
out wrap me today. Hold thank you for coming, God

(02:34:37):
bless you tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:34:38):
Man. This man has been going on too long and.

Speaker 1 (02:34:42):
I'm doing something with Jake Cole. We'll do two three
verses back to back. Jake Cole can't out wrap me
that ship done? You ship? I'm dead serious, broke because
you can't get up there and just be saying that
bullshit with me on the song. J playing with your
words and ship, bro, this is really the culture. Bro,
Like when I start breathing, get niggas, that's for real,
gonna be like this nigga glass, I like what you're saying.

(02:35:05):
I like what you're saying. I like that now though,
now see that. Okay, he's gonna try to do a
So we're gonna do a song sixteen sixty sixteen, and
you tell me what you think I got. That's not
you wouldn't get up there and the high power next
to somebody for real high power.

Speaker 2 (02:35:22):
Everybody Diamon Ring, everybody on Diamon Mayweather talk with talking
the same ship.

Speaker 1 (02:35:28):
What do you do to another rapper? And then me
telling you you can't do that to me because you
can't do that to my little homie. You're talking about
j dot Co. Yes, you don't think he can get
on sixteen? Ain't doing nothing special. Yes, somebody clip this,
somebody clipped this. Jamain is gonna do a good Hey,
please somebody clip somebody clip this, please put it on
Twitter clips and clip and clip this. Hey, get on

(02:35:49):
the line.

Speaker 2 (02:35:51):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:35:51):
All that day, them niggas out wrapping when I was
just a real cripping, real time dealer, that's all. I'm
a rapper now I'm a real artist. That ship over there,
So it's gonna man, it's gonna that name.

Speaker 2 (02:36:01):
That's gonna name of all the artists you're gonna get.
You said, you said, you said, you said, Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (02:36:06):
Man back to back Erson.

Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
I want to see that too, because you what about your.

Speaker 1 (02:36:15):
Doing so with right? I do it so right now
with so and then get on the ship. But bring
it way most Street. It's gonna be night. And they did, bro,
they talked my ship. So if you think you can
get do you think you can bring the West coast
back from this?

Speaker 2 (02:36:26):
Four? Oh? They got from from Joey bad? Can you
get Joey?

Speaker 1 (02:36:29):
You think Joey can suck with me? What are you
talking about? I'm I'm gonna over there.

Speaker 2 (02:36:34):
Drave you really?

Speaker 1 (02:36:37):
You really? Joe looks smoke what you smoke? Drift? You really?
I slow some viola? Viola, you know what I'm saying. Viola? Man,
Joey a little kid. You can't wrap that TV ship
over here?

Speaker 2 (02:36:50):
All right? So that's five people. MA is gonna answer,
and it's going to Instagram or a glass.

Speaker 1 (02:36:57):
I should have should have got that, should have got
that Joey though, honestly, no no, I'll do a song
with Joey and we could rap. You know what, shuffle
out of that ship. Do it, because that's the real
way to compete. Who got the better versus I'm not
fitnna make up some ship about you, nigga. I don't

(02:37:19):
know you, nigga. I don't know you, nigga. I'm not
these little kids that y'all doing that ship with. Nigga.
Don't know you, nigga. And if I say something, I
mean it. So if I say I'm hurt you, nigga,
gonna really hurt you. You have to show me the
other way. So I'm not gonna be disrespecting no nigga
and all that playing. But if you want to think
you can out rap me, nigga, we could do a
song and see rap. But we ain't gotta make no hooks, nigga,
it could be all of that. You can't do it.
I'm gonna do the beat. I'm beat. You can't do no.

(02:37:42):
You can definitely cipher. You can't do no cipher this nigga.
Nigga like your strump suit is making songs, I think
that you make I'm saying I could a nigga down.
I could to a nigga down on man, I think
yo you, I'm telling you right now, you need to
get that Joey like stop. I don't know Joey, I
don't do that. You ain't them niggas pulled up.

Speaker 2 (02:38:01):
You were scared of him up.

Speaker 1 (02:38:02):
Say coach listen, I couldn't tell you nothing about him
to write in a song to disrespect that his family
like you could dis You mean, how you disrespect the
nigga without disrespecting everything here about Jesus christ Man.

Speaker 2 (02:38:13):
They don't have to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:38:14):
That's what this it is.

Speaker 2 (02:38:16):
But you got to do it.

Speaker 1 (02:38:19):
Up sixteen. I don't write raps like that, all that
little kiddie rap. I be serious. Well, that's what I'm saying.
This is the close thing we can do. We could
get in here and see who got the best sixteens nigga,
And I serve you. I serve that nigga. What if
we're his sixteen he dis you, then he gonna get it.
I'm I'm gonna show him how to do that and
they'll work him do it now. I'm not gonna make

(02:38:43):
a random sixteen about a stranger that I don't know
nothing about him. I don't listen to his music. I
don't know nothing badly. You know he's from Brooklyn. I
don't even know the TV. You're making a sixteen right now.
This is not a coach the man for real, for y'all.
This is the problem. This is the problem with the West.

(02:39:04):
And I got you, Coach. We're gonna end it right here.
This is the problem with the West. The West keep thinking,
ain't New York. You keep thinking you could play words
and this is how we wear rap battles, and were
making these words like them niggas with us. That ain't
how you win, Coach, Coach. That ain't how you win
rap battles. That ain't how you win rap battles on
the West coat. That ain't how you galvanized. That's what

(02:39:26):
happened to every West Coast rapper. They kept thinking they
can out raped Joey doing New York. That ain't how
we do.

Speaker 3 (02:39:31):
Things, because we don't got a real West Coast, a
real top fifty niggas come up in here and show
us the way, show us how to do it.

Speaker 1 (02:39:38):
We have monsters coming up in here.

Speaker 2 (02:39:40):
You know who did it?

Speaker 1 (02:39:40):
Who showed you up? He told you how to do it.
You know, showed you how to do it. Ice Q.
He showed you how to do it. He didn't be like, hey,
I rap better than you. He said, no, your bits
ass moved the riverside and you, nigga, the Jewish man
is giving you dick. That's what he told them.

Speaker 2 (02:39:55):
That's what fuck you, Kelly. I was scared than the motherfucker.
That's are you crazy right now?

Speaker 5 (02:40:03):
Trap?

Speaker 1 (02:40:04):
Stop talking crazy. I'm talking crazy niggas taking it. Yeah, man,
my nigga, lou Pay can't out wrap me no more?
That day is done. Pack you up? Can't I wrap
me no more? Don't? I got a song and listen

(02:40:25):
to it. I'm about to go listen what's called?

Speaker 2 (02:40:27):
Tell me now? What's the song I got?

Speaker 3 (02:40:31):
When I heard that on Wednesday? I' gonna give you
my honest opinion. I'm gonna tell you the truth. If
it's dope as a motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (02:40:38):
But that will pack you up, glasses. I don't packed
you up on that song.

Speaker 1 (02:40:46):
Because the new glass don't think.

Speaker 3 (02:40:48):
I don't think this is this is early new glasses
because I don't now glasses wrapping with anybody.

Speaker 1 (02:40:53):
But I don't know this early news was crazy, was
crazy it's called Chopper when Lupe Fiasco it's on this album,
It's on the Testing O You f album. The test
was it test? I remember I'm talking about Chopper. All
that ship done right now? Blue. I would first off,

(02:41:21):
j Cole would be more struggling trying to rap with me,
which I can rap. I wish I can rap. I
will smoke all your niggas. Get why sound crazy, y'all?
Keep thinking this is about words, y'all. Keep I think
it's all about the culture that's gonna come out of me.
When I rap on the song with Jake Cole Coli Bill,

(02:41:44):
and you're gonna notice a fake hundred dollars Bill.

Speaker 2 (02:41:46):
Jesus you think through sometimes, though, Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:41:52):
Person that walked apart, I'm not none of them niggas.
I'm not none of them niggas, not even my young
homie got them. Eight is over, No, no, no homies
just doing None of that ship happened the nigga I
took this this serious. I gave my life to this ship.
I'm not playing with none of these niggas.

Speaker 2 (02:42:08):
I gotta I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:42:11):
I was rapping for real then, and I didn't even care.
I actually care now the same way way.

Speaker 2 (02:42:19):
That's the same way them Prence conferences be going before
them fucking but before they get in the ring with
the motherfuckering knockout on his beat and then the motherfuckers
come out that damn ring talking about your listener. Just
come in from the check be that's it, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:42:31):
Jaga from Buffalo, You know good? All that sound good
till you really get in there with somebody that really
do the thing. I'm not these niggas, dog, This ain't
two thousand and eight, Yola. He'said a little way walking down.
I didn't care. Oh no, no, no, no, no, hey,

(02:42:53):
I'm a hey. And this ain't me being pro glasses
to day. I ain't. Right now, you're gonna get on
the so me talking blood. Your experience and my experience.
We popping this level. Come on, man, it's levels to
all of this ship the glass.

Speaker 2 (02:43:13):
Let me ask your stuff. So when that song was
made though, right? Yeah? So did you present the song
to him and at Wayne Jump?

Speaker 1 (02:43:20):
Was he the last piece? Yeah? But that's not why
he was better. He was just better this right, It's
not just that, bro, It's not just that, bro. I
didn't really understand rap, bro, I just could rap. It
was different. I was really thugging, bro, like I was
really being on the boulevard. I'm really still hanging out.

(02:43:41):
I'm really still living. I'm not committed to the art.
I'm not committed to hip hop the skill of it.
It's just I was the authentic piece, Like it's what
was real. What I was saying was real. They was rapping.
I'm serious. So if I'm talking about doing something, that's
because we really was doing that. They were like masters
at craft. Like Wayne was so dope, Bro, I'm not

(02:44:03):
lying to you. The first time I recorded with Wayne,
this wasn't the first time I was writing my shit
down on the side kick that nigga said, Man, you
write your shit down. I was like, yeah, He's like,
you don't need to smoke weed and shit and walked
off that nigga, Little Wayne was a lot of what you.

Speaker 2 (02:44:17):
Got from that when he said that though I stopped
writing my ship down, it was it was about more
or less just coming from the mind giving the feeling
though right.

Speaker 1 (02:44:24):
Not free style, not like how these kids do it
when you he was saying, So what it helped me
do was really the flow of it, like it helped
me flow things better, Like I still put it together
in my mind, but I'm also not overwording it now.
It's like I get there. But Dog, I didn't as
a nigga like name brand.

Speaker 2 (02:44:42):
I didn't man.

Speaker 1 (02:44:43):
I was just for real, Like I wasn't playing. I
wasn't like no rapper. I wasn't like I was just
rapping some shit that we was on Nigga. I took
this shit series start in twenty eleven, all that shit done,
Jay calling them can't glow next to me. Nigga ain't
glowing next to niggas. That ain't nothing like this. It's
different when you got to glow next to the genuine article.

Speaker 4 (02:45:03):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (02:45:04):
It's different because I know how to put my glow
off every time and you and I don't care how
many different syllables you use, how many similars you use.
When a nigga say some real ship that strike at
your core is just different that that. That ain't I
get it.

Speaker 2 (02:45:16):
That ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:45:17):
It ain't all about the lyrics you put on the face.
It's like when it's like with j J, one of
the best rappers, one of the hardest niggas to fuck
with very few niggas. Eminem probably one nigga, got Jay,
you know who used to get every time scar face,
because it's a thing when you glow the culture, when
when it permeates out of you and you nigga, I

(02:45:38):
don't need no honey words. I ain't finna do all
that oh weird ship you niggas doing with these words. Bro,
watch what I say when you when you say em
you SAYM got j.

Speaker 2 (02:45:50):
J killed a back lefty often my mom left.

Speaker 1 (02:45:56):
Them say that I don't know about feeling.

Speaker 2 (02:46:00):
Beings got him, beings got.

Speaker 3 (02:46:02):
He was rapping him. Him is a great rapper. That
nigga was wrapping his ass off. But when I heard
J Ship Jay, I felt J Ship. I was like
that it was dope and what what it was though?

Speaker 1 (02:46:12):
And he was pitching his real life experience that was dope,
Like we couldn't even imagine what that feeling like. So
what you how you think M did against K Dot.

Speaker 2 (02:46:21):
On that one song, Eminem got, Eminem got k Dot,
he got he got Jed, he got you got you
got k he got Jed too, and Jed went crazy
on that song. But the nigga nigga and.

Speaker 1 (02:46:35):
Went crazy heard that song with Jed oh.

Speaker 2 (02:46:38):
Man, that song was crazy because it was going crazy.
What talk he got? He got you he got yeah yeah,
Jed like yeah he got you think he got jet
on that and Jim went crazy and my man, that's
my that's my brother brother. Jim went crazy though, but
M just went into like.

Speaker 1 (02:46:56):
You know what, you know you might be right trap trap.
He M part on that song was like even if
even when I do a song with M, like it's different,
Like you can't just do all that with me. You're
about to you you don't think I'm correct with you? No,
I think all these niggas can rap with me. I'm
telling you.

Speaker 2 (02:47:15):
They're not out talking about I know what you're saying though.

Speaker 1 (02:47:17):
Yeah, they present.

Speaker 2 (02:47:19):
Look he's saying culture culture.

Speaker 1 (02:47:22):
It's really you gotta present what you could bring uniquely
and represent that space. I do it at the highest level.
You're gonna be hard pressed to find niggas that's gonna
do what I could do because they ain't really live
it like me, and they don't really got they ain't
enough books to do it like me. If you gotta
really be on what you own, like it's like scarface,
like that's the closest nigga can compare it to when
you hear Scarface rap with niggas, like, you really gotta

(02:47:44):
be in touch with your soul to be on a
song with him, because he gonna say some ship. It
ain't about the flipping of the word play. He gonna
say some ship. That's gonna I diden trade you. So
it's like when you listen to that nigga. When I
walked into the studio to do this with jig I
got a phone call from one of my nigs set
his homeboy read, sh it just matters. I get it.
So it's different when you're talking about cold Cole is

(02:48:04):
like diet glasses, Like that's not not as a technician,
the nigga is nice as fuck. His pin his worst
selection is fired. So that's dyet me. That nigga don't
got nowhere near the soul the blues. He ain't been
through enough, He ain't soort enough at this level. He
don't got the culture enough at this level. He don't
even know how to talk it the way I know
how to talk. This is crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:48:24):
When you say you can't talk shit about a nigga,
you don't know you be you whatever. All the shit
you're saying about Cold and about Joey, this is shit
you could have put.

Speaker 1 (02:48:33):
On on wax. I don't know, but that's not how
you diss somebody. That's how pretty busy to me. But
it's not.

Speaker 3 (02:48:39):
I'm not disrespecting him. I'm telling you what separates me.
If you do understand, you don't have to disrespect him terribly.

Speaker 1 (02:48:44):
On the dish. Why you think you gotta crazy on it.
But I'm saying if you think, if you think Jay
Cole been through the ship, I've been through the streets,
then you crazy. No, I don't think I'm then I'm
not this and he Jake Cole ain't been. The neighbors
think he's selling dope, diet I knew I was selling
dope diets. Yes, you're talking about soul of glasses, the

(02:49:05):
blues and glasses versus j co is level. J cot
is crazy. No, No, not, I'm selling you. He would
be diet glasses when it comes to souls in blue. Okay,
the neighbors thought he was selling dope. I was paying
the neighbors selling dope. It's just and it's not about
who's really in the streets. It's just where you pull from.

(02:49:28):
Get it, I get what you where I could pull from.
Because even when when you heard with the d m
X and jay Z was you can hear it, Yeah,
you can hear you could just jay Z is a
way better technician with words. And but when j I
mean when DMX you fell the world ships felt different.

Speaker 3 (02:49:43):
That's even like pot where people like, oh he's a
better he's not the good lyricists start talking yes, I
was just like, yeah, there go you.

Speaker 1 (02:49:52):
On the other day, I would corrupt with getting irving.
I came on their start preaching that fresh out of jail.
That was a crazy I never heard that. I never
heard that song before.

Speaker 2 (02:50:06):
I never heard that song.

Speaker 3 (02:50:07):
Hey hey, hey, hey, before we get up there, I
know we're about to wrap it up again.

Speaker 1 (02:50:11):
You're wrapping up for forty minutes, but thousand people thirty one.
But before we get out of here, I do want
how many how many lights we have?

Speaker 2 (02:50:20):
Fast? When we have fats fast? Following that, hey, how many?

Speaker 1 (02:50:25):
How many? How many people? If you were you know,
on Twitter, I don't get.

Speaker 2 (02:50:29):
Got on mine too well, I don't know I do
this ship.

Speaker 1 (02:50:34):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (02:50:34):
I got that clip though, because this niggas is glass.

Speaker 1 (02:50:37):
Clip that and tell him I greasy like some churches
chicken right now for greasy clipper cliped that. Look, it
was a time when when when the dude said that
to me, shut out to Yola, Yola said, man, little
Wayne got yourr song. Niggas, Little Wayne the fuck way
playing in two thousand and eight got oh my god,
that was a lot like Michael Jordan the ninety Yeah

(02:50:59):
that nigga, Little Wayne alive. Niggas really have to think
about it, like this is what niggas thought it. They
was like, you know what, he probably got a hundred.

Speaker 2 (02:51:08):
We got a hundred, bro, Yeah, we got That's what's
up to are we?

Speaker 1 (02:51:15):
Are we about to wrap it up? We can keep
them wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (02:51:17):
No, I'm sure if we are to wrap it up.

Speaker 3 (02:51:21):
If we are about to wrap it up, I want
to give a shout out to Bianca. To Bianca, you
know what I bet Beyonca, Man, she just passed her final.

Speaker 2 (02:51:30):
You know she needed that.

Speaker 1 (02:51:31):
She's gonna fail the final, but I mean fat pastor
fail her class, but she needed to pass.

Speaker 2 (02:51:34):
I thought some power exactly that some power man.

Speaker 1 (02:51:38):
She passed beyond. Bianca got the straightest one two in
the world. Bhanna beat up this girl in the streets
one day. They was playing the box bluffs. She told
her to stop hitting her can put on them gloves
and beat this little girl.

Speaker 3 (02:51:56):
And I felt so bad for that lady out here
ruining friendships again. They I bet you they will never
have another product. Congratulations, man, way.

Speaker 1 (02:52:06):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (02:52:07):
That's that's dope. That's dope.

Speaker 1 (02:52:09):
No no, so yeah, now that's what I'm saying. I'm
just saying, it ain't no slander to no nigga. Dog
is just like, come on, man, it's just levels. It's
just levels. It's just it's gonna permeate off. But yeah,
go listen to that loupe Fiasco song and then listen
to my verse and listen to lou verse. You're gonna
hear the technical aspect of what Lou doing. And then

(02:52:29):
you're gonna hear the gospel from the LC. You're gonna
hear the street urban gospel. See, it's the difference when
niggas is it's street urban gospel. I started to start
calling my ship gospel rap. I've been thinking about it
for a while because, like what the nigga saying cut
like the gospel for real, I was, I was calling the.

Speaker 2 (02:52:54):
Gods at one point, was just calling the hustling talk
gospel for a minute.

Speaker 1 (02:52:59):
Dog you body Chopper for real, can't telling y'all go
listen to it is a top notch a cold to
my chopper.

Speaker 2 (02:53:06):
He about the song, the song name of Chopper.

Speaker 1 (02:53:09):
Yeah, Chopper, we're gonna check it out.

Speaker 2 (02:53:10):
We're gonna check it out today.

Speaker 1 (02:53:11):
As soon as I get up out of you throw.

Speaker 2 (02:53:13):
That we're back on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (02:53:15):
We hear about Wednesday with Royce, all of homies, like
Nigga all that ship you said you would get roy
not Royce. That's my nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:53:26):
You man, man put you on the days Can man.
You better stop that ship.

Speaker 1 (02:53:30):
Man, Come on, stop this man. Stop this ship.

Speaker 2 (02:53:33):
Man. Come on, bro hey, coach your bro or anything
like that. Though, Bro, that man put you on the
Sardas Can man. Don't do that. Bro, I don't do that.

Speaker 1 (02:53:42):
Bro, you my man and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:53:43):
Let you go out like that bub like that roy
Let you go out like that. Ben right here, if
we see him here being intellectual and were talking like that,
You're gonna smoke the nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:53:59):
I'm talking about going to that booth though. Trap. This
is what I'm saying, trap, that day is over. That
day where niggas don't where they think they can outrap me.
Just saying all that ship that not gonna happen. It's

(02:54:19):
gonna sound like that next to me. You really gonna
have to get in your bag. Listen, wors is my boy.
This is my nigga, that's my guy. I'm not playing.
I know how dope he is. I think listen, I
don't think even wrapped me to no levels, no more bro,
not the niggas who could rap Bro, that ship done.
I took this ship serious. I'm not doing none of that.

Speaker 2 (02:54:40):
No more trap your cav go listen to that loop
and voice it over again. Voice Scott loop on that
ship though, Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:54:50):
No, No, that's good. It's good. It's good trap. I'm
just saying, hey, we gotta be for this or what
I got you?

Speaker 2 (02:54:55):
Yeah up on Twitter today, I.

Speaker 1 (02:54:57):
Mean right now with Luthera, Chris and Buster Rhymes and
I'm trying to get comment.

Speaker 2 (02:55:04):
That's kind of dope.

Speaker 1 (02:55:06):
What what's what about to do on this? Though? You
said I'm saying that nigga like you about to say
you bust when you hear it. You're gonna be like
this nigga belong because that's a And I let him,
and I let and I send it to Luda and
let him hear my verse first so he could.

Speaker 3 (02:55:25):
Out if Luda ward your first verse, your verse first,
Luda about to go crazy because Luda is undreaded lyricists,
super underrated.

Speaker 1 (02:55:34):
Luda can really wrap too. That's A. That's a good yeah,
if you if you hoe your own against them.

Speaker 3 (02:55:39):
And I listened to the talk, and I'd be like, yeah, okay, yeah,
you might got some because Buster common Luda.

Speaker 2 (02:55:44):
That's A. That's A.

Speaker 1 (02:55:45):
That's a lot of I'm going only to the niggas
that could really who niggas think could wrap me. That's
the niggas I want to rap with. I'm gonna show
you what it really looked like. I'm gonna show you
you really put this is the stript of street knowledge.

Speaker 2 (02:56:01):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (02:56:02):
This is a street knowledge that's real. I want to say.

Speaker 3 (02:56:07):
I want to because I think what you're talking about.
I see what angle you're coming from. What about a
nigga who could rap and got that street credibility.

Speaker 1 (02:56:12):
To like, now we're talking about some ship that's different.
Now you're putting Nods honestly, right now, I could get
with nas y.

Speaker 2 (02:56:19):
Yeah, y'all in this in the check in right now,
in this ship, right now, in this ship, thank you God, bless.

Speaker 1 (02:56:31):
Nods from nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (02:56:33):
You can't mess.

Speaker 1 (02:56:34):
You can't mess from mother fucking magic nods. O kay
disease nots this a magic or this a magic or
keen disease? Nos a trap A trap trap. Hey, you're
gonna be mad when I say this. You ain't gonna
like this.

Speaker 2 (02:56:47):
I think glasses.

Speaker 1 (02:56:48):
I think glassic when I gonna happen. I thinks I
think glass is gonna happen. He gonna get with Nods.
It's gonna be I'm doing some shit with I'm doing
some ship with hre right, it's gonna happen. What you're
gonna say when niggas is like THEMA got off. Yeah,
he's back, gonna but he gonna hang with No.

Speaker 2 (02:57:04):
It's gonna be ha ship with ours, My man?

Speaker 1 (02:57:12):
What about your thoughts on this?

Speaker 3 (02:57:13):
That West Coast, that West Coast, Phil is gonna be
so different on that track, But it's gonna be so
different on that track with No Dope.

Speaker 1 (02:57:20):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (02:57:23):
You do too much now place in this ship.

Speaker 1 (02:57:30):
When y'all listen to that Loupe Fiasco song, Uh a chopper,
last and long, A couple of dope niggas on there,
a couple of hommies on there. Listen to it and
tell me if lou Survey I'm coming back with, Tell
me if right now be honest, tell me if he's
serving for pulling up man. Shout out to Twitter, Shout
out to the whole space, Shout out to Facebook, Shout

(02:57:52):
out to everybody. Listen to it, listen to it. We're
back here Wednesday at noon. Man, I see y'all. Then,
is it good? Looking out for tuning in to the
No Sellers Podcast? Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment,
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