BONUS EP* Do The Streets Owe Gunna an Apology?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
loaw glasses alone. My guys, mine, guys, min guys. What
is going on? What?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I Thanks's everything going for everybody?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's a good day. It's a good day. Shout out
to everybody in the chats already No Seller's Podcast Live
to lunch hour. Feel me with my homeboy, my big
brother Steve, my brother Pete. You're up in this thing.
Shout out to Bizo. Shout out to my low craze Squishy. Hey,
still is on time? Yes he is? Man man, shout

(00:50):
out to my that's not us, squeeze. Noticed you don't
be on time. It's not me. Still they be wants
you this, This is this is the hard part. When
people want you, want you here, They want you here,
They looking for your contributions to the conversations. In my mind,

(01:11):
they shouldn't feed you. I believe you shouldn't feed the trolls.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'm not a trouble bro.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Hey, I do got a question to ask and tell
me am I room. Yes, So you do know that
we're looking at buy another house, right, yep? Looking at
another house? When you go on Zilli one look at
a home. You know they building these homes. Now you're
looking at a home and you can get a custom
or whatever like that. Right, why do they have stuff
in there that's not in the house, like a swimming pool,

(01:37):
Like I asked the study about the pool, Oh, that's
not really there, that's just the helpless sell the house.
And then I asked for this extra bedroom, right, this
extra room, like you know, we got the bedrooms and
they got the always be down from the closet, a bathroom,
and it's another room that they got e gym in there.
I said, how about that? They said, oh, that's not
really there. I said, but what is in the house
that you're advertising.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
You shouldn't buy a brand new house. That's a woman thing.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I was buying a brand new house a woman thing.
That don't make no sense.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I understand it's a lot of emotional connections to it.
But women are the ones who want brand new houses
like that's their thing. So like, really, I don't even
believe in brand new houses. Like I just think if
you if you're not building it yourself, if you're building,
if you're buying a track home, you're not truly getting
what you think you're getting.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
No, these houses are getting built. They get built from
the ground up. They're getting built, and we buy the house.
If we have to get built, it's gonna take eight months.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
No, No, I get what you're saying. I'm help me out,
peep like it's a part of a track home because
every house is new at some point. Every house is
not just come out of the old house.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
So that don't make women thing because women like brand
new houses.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Men generalized women. You can't generalize women. It might be
sure like old stuff. No you can't. That's very that's
a very showing this the viewpoint you got.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
No, it's not women.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I was called an efficient viewpoint.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, women are home is at home as my boy.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
You know what I'm saying, Eve and Pete know what
I'm saying. A new house is just a new house
woman thing.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Ask right there.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
A new house is not a woman thing brought. A
new house is a new house thing.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
I'm tell the price like a lot of things a woman.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I mean, I don't think that's the point. Let me
let me, let me let me again. This is no
Silings live the lunch hour every Monday Wednesday, and Friday
at noon specific standard time. Click the thumbs up button
right there in the corner and ship you know what
I mean, Let people know we on here. That's good looking.
Now shout out to my boy Mark already, he done

(03:53):
got us covered for lunch. So we're definitely gonna be
eating chicking Big Max all the way around my man Mark.
Happy Friday, the y'all, Even Pete, Mark, Mark always gives
you a hard time, Pete, he thinks he really felt
like you, just like this Republican trumper. You know what
I'm saying, It's correct, still, Pete, seventh Street, what's fellas?

(04:14):
I brought my Midwest consulting of all things hip hop,
the originator of the hip hop adult contemporary movement for me,
and it's all good. I get it. Then it sounds
like Glasses says some silly ass stuff. Sometimes it's not.
It's it's it's a much richer thought. But I just

(04:35):
don't got enough time to explain it. I don't have enough.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
He is Whenever you do that, he can be ons
that's why he don't want to bother with it.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
No, No, it's just sometimes it's just like trying to explain,
like I know who's actually wants a brand new house.
Like I actually know what's going on, even if you
don't tell me. I know because I know, you know,
talk about this on Gangster this chronicle. We don't talking
about about.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
This is stuff. This is the happy y'all.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, yeah, this is not the happy hour. Everybody sober.
This is hard people at work. This is hard people
at work. I'm gonna tell you something.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
You know, it'd be more people that drink at their job, man,
doing one hour than every before.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, but that's how I saw a bunch of truck drivers, man,
which made me feel real safe when I was. I
stopped at the gas station right by my mom's house,
and I saw a bunch of trucks outside. Right.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
It was the dudes out there drinking the beer together.
They out there drinking, talkings and hot writing the truck
and I even snow some weed. That made me feel
real safe. On the highway, a bunch.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Of people from eighteen wheelers getting trump, getting chewed, getting up.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
Lither, ringing drink, a six pack of still reserved and
hot behind it that wheel of an eighteen wheeler.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
We started the lunch hour. We chose this time right.
We chose this time because it's like the real this
is really the most important people that keep America going.
And this is the traditional lunch hour for people. So
while they're eating their lunch at their jobs, we provide

(06:21):
some you know, some content, some conversations, some things to
get the brains fluid. That's why we chose a lunch hour.
And we could choose a later on time and it'll
probably do it'll be a much faster rise to success.
But we really come we want this time because this
time is the most productive people to me in America,
in the world. Like that lunch out. Now, if you're

(06:43):
just sitting home all day and you catch lunch hour,
that's cool too, But this really is for those people
who you know, they at their cubicle, they at work,
you know, they catching all the news and they don't
want to hear the you know, the talking puppets on
TV says and stuff. They want some genuine you know,
they want to be entertained by a genuine thought leader.

(07:04):
That's all. That's why lead.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
So so you're a thought leader.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
You see all them thoughts following them.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Around around everywhere everywhere I do right behind it.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's the first time I've ever seen Still laugh. That's
true if you really look, if you look on the spot,
like everybody is saying my thoughts. They all just be
saying my thoughts. They just followed me around, and everybody
just grab one and they take it and make content
out of it. Me and Pete are thought leaders. I

(07:44):
was telling Problem is like like like I'm a thought leader.
Problem is an emotional leader. Everything about Problem is emotions.
I don't know if thoughts to be a leader. No, no, no,
he's an emotional guy. Shout out to my brother Jean.

(08:04):
That other twenty dollars. Okay, we might be doing some
real bars today, Pete, wash up, Gene Fast, Jordan Bottom theory,
name brand, what's handing? H crazy? Shout out for the
two dollars. I know Still ain't shooting, Yes he is shooting,
but that's all good. The thing is Still is the

(08:27):
reason I started doing streams or podcasts between Charlotte, Mane
and Steel. I really let me tell y'all something I
don't really like talking. Most of the time when me
and Still is on the phone, I'm listening. Yeah, that's
really the truth. Like I'm just listening because like I

(08:47):
just it works out better for me, but I do
have to disseminate so much information out to people, so
they say, was going through my brain. So I'm gonna
jump this souf. We're gonna get right to it. Make
sure y'all click the link in the description and no sinners.
We got a great episode that just dropped Tuesday. It's incredible.
It talks about things that dirt going through and it's
all of this stuff worth going to war over women.

(09:10):
I'm gonna just ask you, Twan shout out to twin
twin through the streets. Oh Gunner an apology. You know
this conversation was birthed out of an ady HD chat
and Trio felt like people old Gunner apology. So people
old Gunner an apology, shout out the thug. Thug is
coming home. You know, minus all of the restrictions. You

(09:32):
get to be there for his kids. He get to,
you know what I mean, go make his money, take
care of his family, his people, right, and he did.
He took the route, you know what I mean that
made the most sense for him. So I am really
happy for Homie because I know how being and Bengel
is in fighting the case. Twan, do we owe Gunner
an apology? Do the streets of Milwaukee? Oh Gunner an apology?

(09:57):
Didn't he spell the beans? Yes he did? Well, move on.

Speaker 7 (10:01):
To the next person, and he don't deserve ship.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, I thought it was unique for Trill and then
even still right, which I always say, don't feed the trolls.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Still, did he not tell I'm gonna ask you against
Seventh Street? Did he not tell?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yes? He told.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
Did he cooperate, Yes he did? Okay, he talked to
them people, Yes he did. I'm just trying to ask
so many he rated? Yes, okay, okay, Well, then how
did sheets on him?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Anything? But again I think what's happening is and this
is trill like And this is why I know Trill
and Still are both trolls because still hit me saying
the same thing. Let me separate the kind of plea
that since you're trying to what is it that you're
trying to put on an apology? That's what you do,
that's what you text me.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
You were the first one making songs and all kinds
of stuff about the man didn't even know the full
extending what was going on?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
What didn't I know what was going on?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
You said? Well, you know what, I do believe he
told anyway, you was on him before.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Even say it's a video of him telling he was
on his ass. He told on it's on tape.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't think he was the only one that told him.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Who the hell does that even mean?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
What does that mean?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I mean that?

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Okay, No, I'm just saying though. The thing is G was.
What I'm saying is G was on his head before
he even knew he was gonna tell.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
No, I wasn't. I I got on his head after
he told he was.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
On his ass, because the reporting was he's preparing to
tell he has he's being brought to testify, like next
Tuesday or something.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
And I do agree that he told. Let me ask
you this, I don't know if un necessarily got a
good deal. That man is on fifteen years probation. You
know how hard that's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know how much nicer that is than the thirty years.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
But still, though if he does, if he slips up,
because sometimes they just try to get you anyway any
way they can wait.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
A minute, back back up, how do I owe him
an apology?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Man?

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I was just saying that to get him to your
skin than you you want to that question through the streets.
In the pology, I said, yeah, Glasses.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
You on the policy saying I know.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, I know that Glasses.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
See, I don't like snitches either, but Glasses got a
real personal distain.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
From shout out to my tagger still as a bust.
He's a troll. Don't feed the trolls because because you
did if you said I if you saying I owe
him an apology and you keep saying.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
That was just mess if you look at the content
something you sent the text and said the streets so
gunn and apology, I said, no, Glasses does it was just.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Me with you, bro, you were he was Josh. Half
the stuff I just.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh, so you always trumble?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, pretty much is half the stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Half the time I can't think.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Half the time that he makes it onto the pod
is when he.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Peter. If I'm not here, it's because I'm out doing something.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
So why don't you tell us?

Speaker 8 (13:20):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
See?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I usually do tell you, But your mind is so bad, bro,
because you'll be having a millian.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Things going on. I can remember, and you know what,
I will be honest sometimes when stuff just come up, bro,
But I will always text me and say, hey, man,
I can't come on today.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
No you won't. You've never texted me with that.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Gee, you know I'm always different. Man, you don't tell
me so bad, Pete. When we first start doing this podcast,
right this one Glass was living downtown, we'd be setting
through the podcast. I'll be outside this door waiting and
I'll call him or give me five minutes. I'll be
there five minutes, an hour or later. Steal, no glasses.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I've driven to Palmdale and had that happen at least
a half.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
So you give me a break if you gotta wait
some time?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Bro? Is you the worst? I don't mind steal. I'm
I'm used to you doing this to me. I'm not tripping.
What I'm saying is look so before all of these geeks,
because I'm not gonna call them nerves. Nerds are smart
and do researchers. I'm gonna call most of these people
geeks because they're just technologically savvy enough to post silly shit.

(14:27):
What happened with Thug and and what happened with Thug
and what happened with Gunna is different. Gunna when he
took a plea, he wouldn't admit to doing anything wrong.
He acknowledged everybody else around him was doing something wrong.
They asked him, they said, did you inadvertently fun this?

(14:48):
They're asking? First off, is uh, whysall a gang? And
he said yes. The charge on Thug and his crew
was that YSL was a gang. Their defense was it
was a record label. Hold on. Their defense was it
was a record label and not a gang. So if
the first part of your plea, the first question they

(15:09):
ask you is why sell a gang? And you say yes,
that's telling. If you say, if they asked you, did
crime happen? Not you doing crime, but did crime happened
around you and you say yes, then you're telling. If
you say, if you and Thug are in a car,

(15:32):
if you and Thug are in the cars, y'all too
in the car and the police pull y'all over and
they find guns, and they find drugs and all kinds
of illegal other things, and you say, these are not
my drugs. You are telling Tug is different and apologized

(15:53):
for crimes.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
You laugh for five seconds though the Seventh Street. Just
laugh for five seconds though. This shit is you know
what I'm gonna tell you this This is.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
You would think it would be so easy to understand
those dog like I hate when people make the streets
this overtly deace thing. Don't get me wrong, it's not
as shallow as the average person think. Right, it's not
as shallow, but it's also not as deep. Like it's
really simple things.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
It's Gunna like basically just Drake or he's just a
super square guy from life and he just happened to
get and and they were irresponsible for bringing him into
this and getting him implicated in this stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
And all he's trying to do is make music and
whatever the hell?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You know, what's funny? I don't quite know. And what
it's Gunna was presented to me as a crip personally
and like privately and publicly.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, that's that's I gotta listen.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
For you, all right. They're saying that there is a
back little twenty year prison sittings that could Africa if
he doesn't follow the deadlines of this probation.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Right, That's kind of usually the case with probation.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, but listen, they was trying to give the man
twenty five years in prison, another twenty five years in prison,
and another twenty years of probation after that, like they
was trying to watch this, dude.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
It is a federal excuse me, it is a state
charge of racket teering. You're watching him do it to
Puff without a dead body or multiple dead bodies and shooting.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
It.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
What.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yes, his sentence is forty years. That's his actual sentence. People,
So we're gonna talk about thug sentence. Thug sentence is
forty years. He took five years time served, twenty years
cut out the other twenty you see me is a
tail hanging that if he does anything, they can make

(17:53):
him walk the other twenty off.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
That's crazy. And I don't like that stuff, man. That
probation stuff iSIG get very tricky.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Do y'all understand what happened with Thug? Like Thug had
a charge where they were saying he was the like
a real Rico. Like I keep trying to get all
of y'all in the chats and the comments and to
understand this, and y'all don't get this. It is crazy
to charge Puff with a racketeering charge and no one

(18:24):
else is charged. That's not an organization, right that Rico
the last the o of Rico Cuz is organization that
means people Doug was facing the same charge from a
state perspective, with bodies found, drugs found, guns, murders, a

(18:46):
history of crime passed like a history of crime, real crime,
real yang crime was his charge. So they were trying
to give him the rest of his life in prison.
He plaied out. He played out on a forty years sentence.
But again how they structured the sentence the time he

(19:08):
served in jail, and then they suspended twenty of it.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
And then they in their five years.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
They showed him love. They gave him. They gave him
a day for every day. Basically, you know how they
give you a day for day. It's some ship that
two and a half is the equivalent of five petya
on the fact.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
That he so that sounds more like two for one.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Basically, that's what I'm saying. For every day they give
you one.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Oh, I thought you meant for every day you're in there.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
They one twenty four hour counts is forty eight dollars, right,
sixty two years it's seven hundred yeah, yeah, there you go.
So they gave him forty years. This is what people
not catching. They gave him forty years. They said, you

(19:56):
served five because they gave him a day for the
day of city right half years, roughly five years, and
then they said, okay, we're gonna count this towards twenty years.
We're not gonna make you do the other fifteen, but
on the last twenty you're going to serve fifteen years
on probation. If you violate, you can you may have
to walk off all twenty. So, yeah, he did not

(20:21):
walk away from this case easily, like it was some stuff.
But the fact that that man is able to come
home be with his family. He ain't going to a
halfway house, none of that. Now it's really up to him.
Can we say, you know it, Can we say they
set him up for failure, You could say a thousand things,

(20:43):
But really, the fact that he was able to come
home after that type of serious charge is his attorneys
did the most. They really did an.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Incredible because you know what man Sugger was down and
that he was real active for real.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I mean, but minus any thoughts of guilt or like,
that case is serious. And this is what I keep
telling y'all. They're charging Puff like that, They're charging Puff
worse than that. They charged are Kelly like that.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Y'all nowhere near the stuff, dude.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Then the crazy part about it is Gunna still signed
to him.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
You think he still goes.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yes. But but this is my point, like I'm hearing
more and more that Gunnar is not this guy I
don't know. I don't want to get into who which
guy is? Which guy I don't know? I'm saying to me,
he was presented as a crip publicly and privately. So
rules applied. You cannot incriminate someone else to avoid accountability.

(21:51):
If we thugging, we thugging, even if you not doing
nothing that we together thugging. You can't tell the police
everybody else thugging but me, that's tell.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
So the totality of this situation to me is that
they gave him a very long rope to either to
either swing with and change his life or he can
hang hisself. Because what I have found is that I
walked off four years of parole, okay, and within that
four years of parole, I was blessed to have an

(22:25):
agent that the minute I introduced her to my mom
and my grandmam and she saw my familial atmosphere, I
wasn't known like who what it said on paper, versus
to who I am was two different things, and I
was able to show her that through consistency.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
She backed up off me. Man, like my four years
went like that, and it seemed.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Like four years went like in two years to me
based on the fact that I didn't just forge a
relationship and butter her up and be on some bs
and on the low. She could pop me at any
minute if she pop up at the right time. No, man,
I sincerely made the commitment to correct some shit in
my life.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Right.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
So when you relate that the thug, he got all
the tools to do that with. You can move, you
got resources, you got people that want to work with you.
You got everything at your disposal that the average inmate
former inmate trying to avoid recidivism doesn't have a lot
nine times out of ten at they're disposable funds, the
ability to relocate, and people that want to help pull

(23:20):
you up out.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Of whatever it is that you were that you were in.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Right, So, I sincerely hope for the young man that
he takes heed to the blessing that he just got,
because it can be a blessing or it can be
a curse. Left he ain't broke, man, that dude ain't broke.
Broke my broken thumbs, broke his two different foot brokes.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
He not poor, but he broke. He spent a ton
of money, which is common money. He spent all the money.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Imagine that's that's millions and millions of dogs. I don't
think he has I don't think after the fact he
has millions and millions of cash lying around, he.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Will get the opportunity to come up there, get the
opportunity to make some of the money back, for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Well that was kind of my question.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Oh sorry, no, ahead, it's probably more if he had
enough money to just like sit back and ride it
out or whatever the hell, and just have money make
money for him, and he can like insulate himself from risks.
But if he has to go out and be in
the studio, be on the road, do those kind of things,

(24:27):
it's going to be much more challenging not to just
be incidentally adjacent to possible violations by proxy based off
of what other people around you are doing in that world.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
You know, that's always getting.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
At Before we get to that. Still look up that
list of things that's on his uh on his probation.
It's really bad. It's a lot of stuff he can't do.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
But I'm sure, I'm sure, like there's association terms with
a lot of that stuff, so he can't probably go
on tour with half of the artists he want to
tour with.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
You can associate with no felons. Blah, none of that.
We get to the challenges of thugs, probation, revenge. Shout
out to revenge. He just didn't get caught up, that's
all glasses. What's the definition of a snitch. A snitch
is somebody who any criminal right who tells, who informs

(25:21):
on the police about a crime about someone else's crime
to avoid accountability for their crime. That's what the snitch is.
So if you're signed up to any level of criminal
organization and you tell on someone else to avoid accountability
for your own crime, you're supposed to make the state
work to prove you are guilty of a crime. That

(25:41):
is for sure the one job you're supposed to do.
You're not supposed to inform the authorities on someone else's crimes.
That's the problem. Shout out to the Onmie craze man,
appreciate that five dollars, my boy. His testimony looked even
more funny in the light because thug wouldn't even agree
to say why sad as a gang is a part
of his fleet, because that would lose the Rico case.

(26:04):
That's why you wouldn't do it like you would lose
the Rico case. Uh, shout out to me, Craze. I
ain't never heard Cuz claim his neighborhood. Yeah, cryp from
where he' from neighborhood crypt or at least that's what
he was saying. He was shout out to evens never
heard that rule. If you wasn't doing nothing, you wasn't
doing nothing, then you just say you wasn't doing nothing.

(26:25):
You don't say what no one else was doing. That's
the problem of vins. You can't say somebody else is
doing something and oh, if you're not doing nothing, then
that's your stance. Your stands is, I'm not doing anything.
But if you offer information on what other people are doing,
that makes you a rat, especially in accountability when it

(26:46):
comes to saying, hey, we think you're doing this, and
it's like okay, that don't mean you get the right
to say no, no, I'm not doing that. These people
are doing that. That's what makes him a title tale.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
They'm letting them travel the mystic and internationally. It says
that Young Thugs prohibited from associating with gang members, victims,
and other defendants in the case, except for his brother
and fellow rapper gun Are due to existing contractual obligations.
He is also barred from promoting gang related activities, and
it's not allowed to use gang signs or language. Further
stipulations include undergoing random drug testing and refraining from gun possession. Notably,

(27:23):
he is permitted to travel for work both domestically and internationally.
During his probation, persecuted Adrian Love highlighted evidence intended to
establish Young Thugs Guild, including excerpts from his rap lyrics
and requests of the forty five years since, comprising twenty
five years of incarceration followed by twenty years of proporation. Contrast,
Young Thugs leader Termy Brian still contested the prosecution's claims,

(27:47):
arguing that the evidence was weak and expressing concerns over
the house lyrics in the case.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
To me, like, I don't want to wish nothing bad
on though, man, Like he got so lucky, bro, he
got so lucky one thing specifically, and that I don't
think it's the street part. I don't think it's the
hanging out with other criminals that's the problem. I think

(28:14):
thug problem is Thug is a junkie, and I think
that is the problem.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Say, you know when they tell him the drug testing,
you know how hard is with some of these brothers
to put league.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
And I think that's his problem. I think if he
does have a problem like that would be the problem
him being a junkie, Because Yo, when you have money,
like like to peace point, I shout out to Tomie Ron,
Uh he still got money. I don't. I think he
definitely spent all his money. But I think somebody of
his uh social status and opportunities, it won't be nothing

(28:50):
for him to walk out and go pick up a million,
two million dollars to make a record. It won't be
nothing for him to go walk outside and pick up
three years, you know, three three million dollars in concerts,
you know what I mean. Like, he won't have a
problem getting back to some money. So I think he'll
be able to regroup. Fine. The thing is, man, when

(29:11):
you like he's been in jail for a while now
fighting the case, he probably this is gonna sound messed up.
I just think he needs to go to a rehab.
I think he really got that's his battle. All other
stuff is easy. All other stuff, the street stuff that's
easy to deal with, that's not hard to deal with. Like,

(29:33):
you know, he can't go to Metro Atlanta, you know
what I mean, Like he can't go to Metro Atlanta.
That all that stuff is easy. Hanging around criminals, that's easy.
He don't have to do none of that, Like that
is not something he has to do. But and when
you know, drugs is serious and enough, it's not being
said in America about drugs, you know what I mean?

(29:55):
Like his his that would be his you know, burden
to bear, you know what I mean, Like how is
he going to deal with having endless money, dealing with
everything he's just been through and everything he'd been through before. Remember,
most people are doing drugs to kind of get rid
of those demons and to counter those demons, to ignore

(30:16):
the demons in their mind. So that's how most people
end up doing drugs, right, Like it can start off
as a party or as a way to escape, but
then it becomes something you rely on, whether it's pain
or anything else.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Because he's been locked up for five years.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
But then stop stop that. Still stop that.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
But that's what you say.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Up, they actually pinched people coming in there with drugs.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Stop they know that still, you know, like I know,
we all know they got demonstrations right up in there.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
What I wanted to say to real quick is that
the most ingenious, ingenious way for for Thug to alleviate
any financial situation he may have, because like y'all said,
they spent a bunch of money two and a half
years eating Jack Mac and paying for your phone calls
and whatever the cost was, right, I would do it.
I would do a crowdfunding like how Daylight sold did

(31:11):
on their last album. Sure, Daylight was so intelligent they
didn't even need it. They didn't even need it. But
once people found out Daylight was getting their masters back
from Tommy Boy and stuff like that. Yeah, and then
they put up they put up a crowdsourcing for their
last album and they got like two or three times
the amount that they even requested.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
And I know for a fact that.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
Doug being as revealed, they get Doug, like you just said,
that two million that you talked about, he'll get that.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
He'll get that from crowdsource that.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I'm gonna tell you this right now, I knew a
company right now. Man, it's throwing money out there for
people's catalogs. Doesn't pick up ten to fifteen million dollars
right now, just with his previous works.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Depending on the situation, he don't have to do that.
His social cachet is through the roof and Twine is right.
He he can crowdfund ten minutes dollars. I mean, let's
be honest, Bro. He can go to listen, he can go,
he can do a show at the State Forum Arena.
Is that in Atlanta? Like, I think that's what they
call it.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
He would sell it out, Bro, Mercedes. Yeah, he's not
going to have an issue of money, like has gunn
and money helped Thug over the last year and a
half to some degree. But to fight a case, you know,
shout out to everybody in the chests. No Silings Live
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(32:31):
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going to be money. He's in a position to Yeah,

(32:51):
he might have spent a lot of money fighting his case.
He definitely spent a ton of money. But in all
of these labels, you know, there's access his social cash,
says through the rule, like Twina saying, that's a brilliant nute.
He could crowdfund a record and he'll have three million.
He'll have three million by Sunday.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
If he put up a crowdfunding today, he'll have about
two three million by because.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I mean he could go to any label in the
country right now and probably get two to three million
dollars for a record per hour. I mean he could
go to the Mercedes Benz Arena and do a concert
and probably you know, do two three, four, five hundred
thousand dollars. Like that's not He's fine. The money won't
be the problem, even him spending him getting this opportunity,
this second chance fighting that type of case. Man, he

(33:36):
not only does it raise his social cash shape, but
it's really God blessing him with another opportunity at life.
So I don't think all the other restrictions really would
be his problem. You know, I mean, I think at
the end of the day, his issue would only be
that one thing that you know, he's a junkie and
he's been using He been using drugs to get through

(33:57):
everything he's been getting through. Now, if that it's not
a problem in thug is gonna be straight? I mean
he's not. If the people he gotta deal with ain't
gonna be no issue, it ain't gonna be none of that, bro,
everything about him is gonna be a one.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Like.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
He's in a great position. Shout out to name. How
much business is allowed in the streets with rats. Not
as many as you think it's. It's a lot more
crime happening versus how much rating it's happened. You been
locked up for five years, he's probably good now. He
ain't been locked up for five years. They gave him
fire years.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
They gave him every every day he did, they gave
him a day, bro, so he did two and a half.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
They made it out the five.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Shout out to uh, this is a good point. Shout
out to the homie revenge. I believe Gunnar did not snitch.
It's a pleader say you're guilty. Al you're saying it's
not a game, nor could he be used against thugger
and trial sport. A smart street man says, that's not snitching.
That's not true. None of that you're saying is not true.
If if if Gunnar said I did this and then

(34:57):
he took complete then that wouldn't be snitching. If he
said some someone else did it, that is snitching. And yes,
all of that stuff can be used. That child they
were calling people up who took deals. All of those
lies that alphad please can't be brought into court is
a lie like I don't know who keeps disseminating false information.
That's really obvious that that's.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Just not But didn't he testify? I thought that the
video was him on the witness.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Stand, witness stand. He was taking a plead on the
witness stand, the witness stand to what, well, when you
take a plead they made well, he wasn't understand he
was actually in the in the in the seats where
you defend from and they were asking him questions. They
were saying, are these your statements? And then the statements

(35:47):
were he was.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
On the state he was.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
And trial And as I followed this lightly at that.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
Best, Yeah, amens, I.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Didn't think he was sitting at the table.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Though, Yeah, he was sitting at the table. But yes,
so I'm sorry, Nanja, I'm trying to come home shout
out to revenge. He didn't say someone else did it.
He was saying, no, it's not a gang, but you're
going to charge me with anyone. That's not what happened. Revenge,
he said, it actually is a game. I don't know

(36:29):
how you don't notice this is exactly what he said.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
It behooves you before you post, before you say certain stuff,
to do your research, like I don't know how you
check it two or three or four times before you
say it.

Speaker 7 (36:43):
Man, it behooves you not.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
And you have. Did you hear that? Revenge? That's him
saying that that's a gang and he has knowledge of
someone else committing a crime in the name of the gang. Revenge.
I don't know how you're saying he said it's not

(37:30):
a gang. He didn't say that. He said it was
a gang. I don't know how you missed that. Yeah,
you're tripping him, do you doue diligence? Well before you
I don't know how you got that revenge, Like you said,
you did your research, But it's obviously you missing this
simple point. That is him saying it's a gang and

(38:05):
he has personal knowledge that members have did things to
further the agenda of the game. And he said, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Had saved on the phone.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
On the phone bullshit, that's him telling you that.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
That's actually when.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
This isn't him on the stand right there, that's him,
that's not it's not I'm just trying to pull up.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Shout out to revenge. He said, yeah, I got it,
but I'm saying that's a plea. Like thug didn't admit
to guilt. No, thug admitted to guilt. He took a plea.
But for sure, yes, he admitted to guilt. He was
apologizing for like a good five minutes. Like, yes, he
Thug admitted to things he did, right, Gunna admitted to

(39:02):
things that Doug did. Everybody else did. Shout out to
a J. He definitely didn't know what he was saying.
Oh he no, no a J. No a J. You
can't say he didn't know what he was saying. He
was talking about. I think he talking about the other guy.
I think about revenge. Yeah, I don't know what I'm like, Yeah,

(39:25):
shout out the squishy peak. We don't all look alike. No,
we don't ship.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
That was the title of the of the video. Hmm,
it was miss it was mistitled. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't
mis titled.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
There was a lot of revenge. Kind of had it wrong. Yeah,
I think thug situation. Look, man, I just want to
be happy for somebody who could have got the rest
of their life, you know, based off of accusations and stuff.
And I'm just happy he has another chance, you know

(40:03):
what I'm saying. I'm just happy he needs another chance,
Like he gets another chance to do it again. God
willing everything go right for him, his family benefit, everything solid.
That's all I'm hoping for the best. Shout out to
the name brand. So Gunna still outside construg me this money.
You know what's funny, name Bro. I've been in the
streets my whole life. That is not about people. Don't

(40:27):
kill you for being a snitch all the time. People
kill you to usually, you know, if you telling in
the middle of a case, you know what I'm saying,
and you can get somebody sent, you know, to prison,
that's when you die. Normally, when people told Bro, they
would actually just disappear. They wouldn't go by their street
name anymore. They would just be John and they be

(40:52):
working a life and they'll move somewhere far out and
just live their life like a regular person. They would
understand how much shame they brought to themselves and the community,
and they would just disappear. So it wasn't always you know,
snitches was engraved. You know, you might have got beat
up if you came around and you told you know, snitches,
get stitches and get beat up because you you're just

(41:12):
shamed and embarrassed all of us. One of the most
embarrassing things is when your homeboy tell that's is that
is like one of the worst feelings in the world,
especially especially if y'all was tight.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Hoop and betrayal. I had a homeboy, you know my boy.
Did you get to meet Ted when he was out here?

Speaker 3 (41:30):
See?

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah, man, a dude that we grew up with. I'm
talking about literally from the town. We was four or
five years old. Man grew up together. He told them,
homie the honey was out the game already, came to
do him a favor, and you had to line them up.
When people snitched dogs because they don't want to be
accountable for their own sings. So I believe that we
all got choices. Man, we all have a choice of

(41:53):
making stuff that you can say no. But if you
choose to do something, though, you gotta arrive whatever consequence
come with it.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Deriver Walls Wise question of forgiving Gunner under discussion because
Thug wants to be his friend again. If so, maybe
the question should be why does Thug wants to befriend him.
I think Thug is a little street so he understands
the nuances of what that person was into. I don't
know like that that you know where Thug is that

(42:21):
with it. That's his business, that's his cross to bear,
you know what I mean? Like that's however he wants
to affiliate himself with an artist that signed to him,
you know what I mean? Maybe he knows in the
back of his mind Gunna ain't on that type of time. Like,
I don't know the depth of what Thug knows in
the case, I just know that what Gunna did is
telling based off to be Hesse that he's a crip.

(42:42):
And you know he said he's stugging. Now, if Gunna
is a square dude, you know what I'm saying? If
Gunner is a square dude, that that's just rapping tough,
then no, it's not telling. No, it's not. He's a civilian.
He did with people, spoke to do when they're getting
confused for crimes. But if to any degree he is

(43:05):
thug in to any degree, if he ever does anything
that's any level of criminal lifestyle, yeah that's telling for sure,
for sure. Type shit shout out to the hommie craze,
Like what do y'all really expect to happen a public
figure during your case with the whole world watching some
shit is just common sense. Yeah, it's pretty simple revenge

(43:26):
pre try yet got he got a wire seal charge
and he already did time for it. That's cool too.
But in the middle of a Rico case, the one
thing they're trying to prove is your gang, and you
have committed crimes to the gang's benefit. So if you
say that, then that's why thug had to take that
plea because they already made it like they pretty much

(43:48):
had the Rico trial proven. And this is what I
was telling the homie mikey on ADHD that like, I
don't care about all the shenatiganst his lawyers doing and
winning the trial in the court of public opinion. That
already got enough people to say, including Gunner, that YSL
was a gang and that crimes had happened in commissioner
further in the gang's agenda. That's the trial loss. Now

(44:10):
how much other stuff can they prove on him is
a different thing, you know what I'm saying. But I
don't know. Y'all would know if I better than I did.
The question is if Gunner is just somebody that really
ain't street at all and he's just rapping about it. No,
I really wouldn't listen to him anyway. I don't know
why would y'all. I don't care how good his music is,
bad or good. I don't want to hear somebody completely

(44:33):
faking in existence like I would hold you to these standards,
you know what I mean? And maybe that's the street
and me. But you know, maybe y'all know that, you know,
shout out to everybody in the comments. Maybe y'all know that,
uh you know, he's not like that shit. I don't know.
That's I thought.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
You man, you can't mess with a person like that.
That's a character flaw.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
No, No, that person do.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Some shit like that. He's subject of doing thing man.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, no, no, that's why I would mess with him.
You mean, snitching ain't about some street code. It's snitching
is as bad as not raising your child. Mm hm.
You know what I'm saying that.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
I mean, we all got choices to Peter. You understand
what I'm saying that we decided to go hop the gate.
I'm making a choice to go hop that gate with y'all.
If I happen to get caught in the process, I
can't be mad at y'all. Had to suffer whatever faith
as women.

Speaker 6 (45:25):
That's why I didn't do That's why I didn't do
codefendans whenever I was in that life, I didn't. I
don't believe in cold defendans, bro, because then I got
a whole lot to worry about. Now you gotta worry
about me.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I don't worry worry.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
I do my dirt all on my lonely.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Here here's something that that I say, and people don't
like it, but this is what I really feel. I
told still, this is before I think a snitch. So
while the act of pedophilia is worse than the act
of snitching, a snitch is worse than a pedophile. Now
the acts are something different. Like I said, the act

(46:03):
of snitching is worse than the act. Excuse me, the
act of pedophilia is worse than the actor snitching. But
a snitch is worse than a pedophile every day. A
pedophile is a weirdo who got something wrong with they
mind where they see a kid like, none of us
make a choice to not be a pedophile. None of
us don't have that choice. I've never saw an attractive

(46:25):
seven year old in my life, even when I'm saying
I've never had to turn down the attraction to an
eight year old girl.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
On YouTube about that stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Man, Yeah, I'm just saying I've never thought attractive.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Child you at least for YouTube's sake, they like minor
attractive person.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Well, anyway, I've never been attracted to a pre purescent
teenager like like, I just never thought that was attractive.
Snitch is different. A snitch is making a conscious choice
to avoid accountability. They just choosing to do it. So
it's a horrible choice, like snitching and not raising your child.

(47:13):
Your son as a man or daughter is the same
exact person, same person. I I genuinely hope your kids
grow up and call you a snitch. That's that would
be the best, you know scenario in my mind. Shout

(47:34):
out the tree never like gun and still don't. But
it's not because he's snitched. Yeah, I don't think they
have anything to do with it. Yeah, I don't care.
Shout out the name brand A SI is worse than
the rat though them type got to go to the
upper room. You know what a CI is different. They're
the police. I mean, if you're just somebody working the
streets as a police, you're a police. You know what

(47:56):
I mean? Yeah, yeah, you know. Whatever happened to them
happens to them. Uh. Shout out to Todd Gunna snitch twice,
once on another case in atl then on his wife
rel case. I hope that's not true.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Is he from Atlanta?

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Why you can accidentally snitch? You can't accidentally be hu
prepep bress and attracted person. You can't accidentally snitch like accidentally,
can't accidentally tell you just told shut up? Simple again

(48:37):
like like a like a like a like a prepeop
bressing attracted person. Right is they can't help this attraction,
so then they have to fight help acting which is
why I say the act is worse, but the actual person, like,
how do you like? You're not? You're not like your

(48:58):
brain is nothing wrong with your brain. And that's not
why you tell it. You just don't want to be
held accountable.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Maybe they're easy road attracted people. They're just attracted to
the easy road. They can choose to succumb to the
seduction of the easy road, or they can choose to
resist said seduction.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's definitely different. I just thank god that
that little wire in my brain ain't there. That's just
such a weird and.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I don't believe it. I just think the people see, man.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
They that's what I just said.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
I just and I think, man, just like you put it.
You know one thing that nature get right, Man, When
a dog had a litter of puppies and if something
wrong with them puppies, they shoot them, they kill them.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
The same thing is it's true with chickens. Was funny.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
I remember my mom was school that you used to
bring the little chickens home because there was so to
the class and stuff like that, and if there.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Was a week one they would peck that thing until
it died.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah, it should be the same thing.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Man, Gunna was a square. He didn't realize why I
sale was really in the streets. A lot of dudes
like that in the rap game Ron If he just square,
how do we know that? Well, if he's just square,
why is he talking tough? Why is he talking street?

Speaker 2 (50:15):
That's the thing he's He's in a tough spot.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Either you're a snitch or you're a complete fraudulent perpetrator.
There was nearly not a third option to me.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
And I don't believe Gunnar was thug and he didn't
even do nothing. He was an upstanding gangster. Then he's
not a gangster at all. So why would y'all as
fans let somebody that y'all know a street make a
catchy song about being street, or even support somebody that's
not street at all, or listen to them.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Because this is the thing to do.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Ge.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
You know, when I first came to California in nineteen
eighty eight, and you know, I was doing my thing
out there, whatever, I made a conscious decision not to
play with no game thing. I never got quoted on
or nothing like that, because I understood the seriousness. And
when you made that choice, it was certain consequences you
know that came with that, especially back then, if I

(51:08):
would have got jumped, like let's say, out of find
people to put me on insane that means out of
limited half the places I can go in California, or
knowing that I was gonna get into some bs if
I did go out there. I think, man, people play
with game binging and I think it's just the culture
of it just looks so appealing. Man, the people did
they do this stuff without understanding that there's certain consequences.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
To come with it.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Shout out to Kelvin law abiding thug. The problem with
that is the definition of a thug is a violent,
aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal. So they
don't go together.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
It's like saying, make an honest woman out of you.
Those two things don't go together.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, shout out the shout out to revenge. It was
a joke, But seriously, some crips get money not do crime.
Then that's not quite what it is. Like that, like,
if you're a crypt then you are bounded by the
restriction of not informing the police on other people's crime.

(52:12):
That's the point, Like why is he any of those things?

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Like why would who does not do crime, it should
be pretty easy because it would be that much harder
for them to have something on you.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yes, or if you hang with See the thing about
cripping is you hang with people who do crime knowingly
that they do crime. It's like right now where I'm
at in my life, if I went to let's say
one of my homeboys had a crack spot, a rock
spot that was doing well, and I wanted to watch
the boxing match, and I go to his house to

(52:43):
watch the boxing match, but I know this is a
rock house, and I walk in that house and the
police raided. I cannot with a real conscious tell the police, Hey,
I just came to watch the game. That's why you
don't go to a rock house and wash the boxing match.

(53:04):
You have to find somewhere else because you could be
held accountable for going at a place that you know
crime is happening, or hanging at a place where crime
rock them soccer rock, the soccer robots, look at the
ass shout out to it on me, Todd, These idol
worshiping fans believe anything in these ninjas saying these raps?

(53:26):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Though?

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Like what men, we talk about it all the time, yeah, yeah,
have these fake figured and motherfucking four dollar bills, man.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, we just had a different time right now. I
just come from a different era.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
And you know these little funny ass acting dudes, man,
they all from like eighty percent of these dudes is frogs.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
But my question is why, Like, you don't have to
be gangster to be streets like hip hop very much
a street urban culture, right, don't get me wrong, personified
through the arts elements, right, Okay, cool, That don't change
that five called quest talk like people talked on a corner.
They didn't talk about the same exact things. They phrased

(54:17):
it in their understanding of what was happening in their
life using the same lingo that we all have growing up.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
You know what's willis?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
I know, man, Especially if you're a rapper coming from
l A, if you not affiliated with if you not
affiliated with game coach, it's gonna be hard for that's
not yes, it is name one successful rapper wing from
the neighborhood out there ain't from the neighborhood, but he claimed,
but but he rejects that imagery though, as.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
You predates that moment cue.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
When you first saw Q you thought you was from
a game. No, Cube looked like he was from the streets.
That's the difference. He's talking about the rat group.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
I don't know, man, I think give them everybody from
l A Man acts like they're from a game.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
No. No, they act like they are No, they act
like they are streaked on t. This is the problem, bro,
Like you keep confusing that everybody in the streets is
from a game. They're not. You never acted like a
gang member. He acted like he was streaked.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
He acts like a gag member. That's my opinion, though
I may be wrong, but he a game lost.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
When I saw when I saw Cube next to when
I saw Quve next to w C automatically new the difference.
When I saw him around mac Ten, automatically knew the difference.
Like it's like just certain a certain aura. And I
don't think he ever really like he I never heard
C even when Dope Man was out and uh and
they got and then uh and when they came out
with straight out straight out of conference, I really didn't.

(56:05):
And I was going back, I was coming out to
LA at that time, and I didn't. I never, like
I used to hear different things about you but I
ain't gonna get into all of that.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
But never heard like dude is like a hardcore gang.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Member or not like eight like eight, it was automatically
spelled out. It's spelled out in his name. You see
an eight's name. He's banging like he's letting you know, right, Cube,
I didn't feel that way about.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Again again, I think the confusion is street and gang. Yeah,
I guess gang is a culture in Los Angeles street life,
but it is there is a lot of people that's
just from the streets in Los Angeles street life. Shout
out to Homie Kevin. He makes a great point. I'm
not from a gang, but I understand basic street unwritten rule.

(56:52):
Shout out to Homie Brandon Peters one of the best, uh,
one of the best journalists out of the Bay. Tyler.
The creators had it successful and he's not from a game.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Dude, Yeah, he's like the only really like how the
success I was. I think there's a period of time
like in in l A's exhibit is not you said.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
That if it was not from the game, but he
you don't understand. They project the imagery.

Speaker 9 (57:22):
Everything else like Shoreline or something like that. Listen, this
ain't no distant, none of them people. This ain't no distance.
They are projected the role of.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Being the crypt You keep conflating projecting cripping serious project.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Cripping because he looks like boom boom things normally. Yes,
you know what they're from Ohio. This from Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
They don't count.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
You're missing the point. It's not because they're from Cleveland, Ohio.
It's because they still look like guys from the street.
They do.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
They wear kaggies and stuff. We work gaggas in Cleveland.
Everybody t shirts gen so everybody from the streets where
this is normal. So when so when the cube the
state is crip walking, he's not. He's not projecting you.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Up and he crip walking what everybody crip walks today.
He wasn't crip walking thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Okay, so I'm just having a losing Okay.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
It was not at the like he got like eighty
eight or seven or something like that, Like that wasn't
really the state of La.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Music at that time.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Gangster is not gangster, while it does loosely in regular world,
means something specifically in hip hop, it means just keep
it street like when like everybody on the West. The
rappers themselves were calling it reality rap. The journalists coined
it gangster rap. They didn't coin it gangster rap. They
coined it reality rap. They were talking out the reality

(59:00):
of Los Angeles County streets, some southern California street life.
Same thing in the Bay Northern California street life. But
everybody still in the streets wore dickies, chucks and T
shirts because they were cheap and didn't nobody had no money.
Shout out to West Side. They think chuck dickies mean
a game. That's street exactly. That's how people in the

(59:21):
street dress because this is what they could afford. To
be fresh. They creased them up, they put thick laces
to give them style. You said me, that's what it was.
So no like people didn't know Easy was a gang member.
Easy to project gang member, Easy projected street ren projected
street Dre is not a gang member. He's successful. Snoop

(59:45):
is really.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Quick like the Testament, the New and Old Testament turning
point though exactly like after the mid nineties. It's a
lot different conversation to me than it is in the
late ladies. As far as the culture of l a
hip hop music goes and that started.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Shout out to Ronald Green Jr. Then I hit a word.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
She's not a gangster?

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
I think?

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Shout out to Ronald Green Jr. Then I hit a
left on wolf Ellen, What up?

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
That's what I told you that man, you be trying
to deny stuff. I knew I wasn't crazy. I told
you that. You say, Look, that's a preep term.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
You definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
If I call Glasses a local, am I a gangster?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Hold on? Hold on, hold on? Who started saying the
word logan putting local? Name your damn liar?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
What you say? Who started that saying low?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
I don't know who started saying low. The first person
say low.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
That's a pyrole word, locus.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I didn't know like local was the world.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
That's Quick uncle. It's not. On Quick's first album, he
had a song called loaked out. Oh he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Crypt no, but still that's some stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
There's some game him has said lo lo means loco? Crazy?
How local?

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
What local means? But that's a that's a game.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Term, a street turn that gang bangers embraced first, poules
embraced it. Then guess what crips embraced and then said,
we don't want nothing to do with that. Y'all have
read it through the mud. It's not ruined.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Then whatever, none to do that. I never saw red.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
What do you you'll wear all kind of colors we
used to wear.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
You used to wear a lot of black black or
white weed to a lot of black, wear black to
day and then and then still.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
He also said, I don't bang. I like the good vines.
The whole scene is good times.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
He told you right there. Don't think people like I've
heard things about this game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
He's also said that he's in the game. N w
a is the game was a game? He said, it's
a game, and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
You know he was projecting he was from one aleter.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
He was not. I never thought.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
That, neither did cypress hell what a quick do?

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
When he came up quick quick the line? Right away?
Didn't he quick? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
We was tracked, like right away. I knew who I
knew it was tracked on that first C m W album.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
It was not.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
The image that they really like. You know, if you
hear Quicks albums, you would think he was just this
hardcore game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
No, No, he was gameing shout out to free thinking.
What about loaks. That's a great point.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Yeahs is a game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
It's not a gang thing, and you know it's not.
Instead of you being honest, you just look at I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Around.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Shout out just here. Q wears red and videos. Yes,
what you want to wear many ice cube I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Love ice cubes, man, But I'm just telling y'all like that,
you have to pretend like you from a game, to be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Pretend like they're from games, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Not you know you don't. You have to be street sad.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
So there's not nobody's faking the phone.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
I'm not saying that nobody. I'm telling you don't have to.
You just have to be street people. People do social boys. Well,
he's not playing, he's serious.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
Look at what Look at what n A look at
look at what Spirit Wonder said. He said, I grew
up in the NHC, but that's not who I grew
up to be.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Shout out to Spirit Wondering for that. JYMP shout out
to everybody killing the chat. I'm glad y'all joining in
on this conversation. It's important that we stopped uh steal
from Mi. Sheonanigan's lying about what you have to be
on the West Coast to beg.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I'm just telling what I see. Make the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Shout out have to spare, Wonder, Shout out the free thinger,
shout out the fast your question, no ceilings lie. Lunch
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at noon. Click the thumbs up button real quick. We're
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Put your air pods in so you can hear. Act

(01:04:21):
like you're on your computer doing your job. If you
have you had a Walmart, Act like you're doing your work,
like you looking for something for somebody. You know what
I mean. Don't don't jump off the stream. We're gonna
keep going for y'all for a little longer. Spirit Wonder.
I grew up in the n a CS, but that's
not who I grew up to be, and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I love Vice Cube. No, we didn't you mistaken. See
you think everything Street is cripping or blooding. That's your
bro that's your bias. Cleveland mentality. I've been I've been

(01:05:00):
here actually longer than I was in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I told you that, but that'll change. You have a
biased perspective. You think anything street is crips and bloods
and still.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
No, you know what, I know that people it was somewhere,
but that they wouldn't get to me. They didn't get
promoting gang bang in their music. Who say Brazil it was?

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
You know, they.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Was on how I can just.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Getle boys got songs about killing people. They wasn't no
game banger.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Why you don't look at them as game members?

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Like I don't know that. I don't know everything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Still talking from West or.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Nothing like that or whatever it's down there, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
Still, we come from the origination. We come from the
middle West Chicago, nineteen fifty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I know, you know, like you how dare you look
at with us when this is all the me and
West fall but really the street gang stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
It's a little bit, you know what in this conversation
with you, because you're trying to make me sound bodies.

Speaker 7 (01:05:59):
Hard by.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Bro from come from a place in America that created
Black Streak games.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah you really, Yeah, games started, but it was different
in the Midwestern.

Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
Y'all use zi in the k before anybody don't even
talk bro we wasn't doing no drive bys.

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
White man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
You don't you don't want to start. Clear, you don't
want to start. Here's the key. Let me start the engine,
let me red the gas. I want to start. You
said we started that, No, some white men in Chicago

(01:06:44):
started that the Midwest again, Tommy Dunn's drive bys, and they.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Was hitting, and they was hitting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
They killed innocent people too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
They were hitting.

Speaker 9 (01:06:56):
Here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Look, you're playing the part. And they.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
In the Chicago cue innocent people too, and they started
pride and they started with all the MAXs with the
Tommy guns.

Speaker 6 (01:07:09):
The most popular rapper of all time is a full
fledged l B C. Don't don't start like y'all. Yo
took Gang Bang into the Olympics. Be quiet glasses, so
you should be prime marketing stents.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
You should be proud. And that's all I'm saying is that. Gee,
I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
I had a record executive tell me we're gonna put
some looks on you. We're gonna put it on you
because we're gonna make up this boy b s you nothing.
He was like, they was to make me a gang banger.
It was gonna make you streaked. And I wasn't with it.
I'm gonna tell you, dog, I'm not gonna say with
rappers up. Let y'all guess when I was twenty one

(01:07:52):
year twenty two years old have even come out yet
try but I went. I went to Hollywood Ells. You know,
we used to live in Hollywoodlls. This dude said, yeah, man,
we go say you from the hood. We're gonna put
this on you. And I wouldn't the hood take me

(01:08:15):
back to the cree. But I'm not with that you
are from the hood. I'm not from no neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Dog, from the hood, from where I live at.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I'm from the house to Steel family.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
That's from see see see. And this is what's wrong
with this is what you don't understand about hip hop.
Hip hop is it was made for ghetto people. It
was made for ghetto culture. So then when you don't
want to be a part of ghetto culture, you think
we want to hear your suburban experience, which you don't
even have a suburban experience. You from the ghetto of Cleveland,
and when you came to Los Angeles, you went to

(01:08:46):
the ghetto of Loan Beason. So all that man was
asking you was to be street. He didn't want you
to be a rappidy rap acting like you from New York.
He wanted you to represent street urban culture.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
You want me to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Ain't like you a crip you canna wear That's not
what he.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Says.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Like West and Lopes put a dicky top on dicky bottom,
some chucks that would have made you streak. That's the
perspective of people. You don't have to be a crypt.
You you you You actually talked about you so dope
before you actually talked about growing up poor. You actually

(01:09:29):
talked about getting fights. You talked about coming from the ghettos.
We come from to express our struggle. A crypt.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
I used to I used to squad every day. Like seriously,
my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
I don't believe your your suburban existence like you didn't
want to every day.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
People should be happy that I'm happy I'm living my
suburb experience because I damn ship back in the day,
when a lot of niggas come onund and like call
me a buster, that's real.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
That's because you're a buster. Now shout out, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Have This man is my brother. This man is my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
The truth.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
You're you're kind of doing the thing worse like you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
The I Got a black thing where it's like I
got a cript friend thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
No, I don't have.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I was was the real gang members and raps DJ
probably before d r rest the first what about? What
about about the same time? Yeah, what about the ball head.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
And what's came up?

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Came up? He came up after was Ice team?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Not he he wasn't from.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
He was affiliated, And that's what I get a like,
and I think that steals point. Everybody's affiliated, but you
are too, still your.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Friends and games.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
That's sort of like affiliated.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Still you ain't never threw up the set one time, man,
I so okay, he fought with him. It was it
was it was on and it wasn't a tattoo. It
was he just said it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
He just is bro yo.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
He was FM being here real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
It was in me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
So you're talking about we need to put you on Insane.
He's gonna be big country level from Insane.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Already discussed that on the outside show that one day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
That is true.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Don't don't don't say that. Gee, don't do that, because
I love.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
You had us.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Mostly iced tea.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I don't know if ice tea I would classify Ice
Tea publicly that way. Now, it's Ice Tea a low
to me. Yes, that's my that's my low. May But
I don't know if I feel comfortable publicly acknowledge him
and making him a part of the snannys. But again,
it is I.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Was Ice Tea from what I hear. Ice Team was
an Ice Team was a jew thief from what I heard.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Yeah, but everybody, All communities do different things. Yeah, shout
out the free thinking. What about the movie The Warriors.
There were gangs in New York. There was always gangs
in New York. That's why I don't know why these
dudes look down on us. I'll be like, bro, y'all
got that's like trying them like they just tried to
act like we started drive by. It's like some dude

(01:12:51):
in Chicago didn't start a white man.

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
It was okay, but from a black, from a black
standpoint put it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
We never heard about no past question.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Of course I was doing some I'm always looking at
weird data crap twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
It never stops. I'm a weird guy Chicago.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
I want to say, is they're all time murder number
peak was nineteen seventy two at nine hundred and eighty one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
That is a lot of revolvers.

Speaker 6 (01:13:21):
No cameras, no cameras, no cameras, no YouTube, no oh
you mean it was no movies made about them, but
they were.

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
All I'm asking is in that era because there were
it was high for like that early mid part of
the seventies out there, they weren't using there were no
heavy hitters. There was no big, big artillery in that
in that era at that part of the country.

Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
I was two years old.

Speaker 6 (01:13:45):
I ain't gonna start running my mouth, you know, people,
I mean, I just put it like this. Things were
way more organized and it was a different time, and
you can if you got it, you had it coming this.

Speaker 7 (01:13:55):
Just put it like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
That's fine. I'm just I'm I'm just asking about the equipment.
That's my only question.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
Whatever was available was money in the hood back then,
whatever was was available, whatever was available with everybody else
usually had they you know what I mean, whatever they
had in La, we hadn't in the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
No. No, no, whatever you had West, we had in
that LA right next to the cartels. Stop no, no, no,
let's stop.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
And I know this to y'all feel I'm sick of
people hating on Brownie Dog.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
I'm not the warmed up because see people.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Be lying, people be lying to theyselves.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
If you have the opportunity to put your son in
the in the NBA or the NFL, most people gonna
do that, Bro, Yes, most people are.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Going to do that. Has nothing to do with the
other part.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
That's you still should be critigued. Yeah, you know what though,
but they just go extra for him. If he wouldn't
Bron's son, he would criticism, wouldn't broun Son, he wouldn't
be in the league, he wouldn't be anywhere. Still, this
is what I will say.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
You should enjoy this honeymoon movement because when he gets
when they send him down to the G League, all
them young hungry cats that don't have that, don't have
generational wealth, that one spot that he just came from,
they're gonna be trying to take him.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Now this you ever do to me in sports, You
gotta earn it, man, You gotta be that dude.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
You gotta do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
It something average four points and gave it us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
See what do you call that?

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
The thing is, but you know, he got him opportunity.
I'm not against him one in the G League, nothing
like that. But I think people just overly talking about
that overly.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
His career is as secure as his father's. Achilles Tendons
at forty.

Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
One years old still put it like this, when he
when he gets to the G League, it's either gonna
make him or break him, because those cats are going
at him because he has generational wealth, he has a spot,
he has a guaranteed contract that all of them cats won't,
and a lot of them cats, even though they might
they might be chummy with him, a lot of them
cats are going to be looking to embarrass him.

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
So I just hope people are ready for it, because
that's what I foresee. I don't so for see him
getting down there and dominating. I don't think that's the
case because it's tons of young players that's out there
that's better.

Speaker 7 (01:16:10):
Than Brownie right now that don't have the same shot.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
You know what, man, I'm gonna tell y'all something, nepotism
happens all.

Speaker 8 (01:16:17):
Over the world.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I don't disagree with that, right, I'm gonna take this.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
Let me.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
It's just not talking about as much. Do you know
how many position coaches got sons on the team in
the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
None of that do I dispute, But I'm gonna tell.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Y'all something that happen. It's a true story. I'm gonna
keep the team name with people out to their own research.
My son messed around and dog walked this dude in
practice one day, and they held a grudge against him
for that, and he didn't never know, He said, I
didn't know that was that coach's son slammed the dude
all on his neck and everything, called him out, his
name and everything he got. He got punished, penning lives

(01:16:54):
for that. But I do think I don't think we
could be mad at people forgiving their kids opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Though yes we should and they should. We should be mad,
and they should do it anyway, because that's what when
you do something just for you to benefit you, the
rest of the world should be upset. This is like
doing what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 5 (01:17:13):
This is like the freedom of speech misnomer. I'm free
to se whatever I want, and I'm free to say
how stupid it is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Should so, Pete.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
If you had a son, and you had a business,
and your son you had an open position in that
it was gonna pay about fifty two hundred thousands a year.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
He wouldn't give it to your son.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Yes, I might, and I might not.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
It would depend on it would depends on the degree.
And it also would I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
I don't remember.

Speaker 10 (01:17:41):
Get I don't remember. Get anything, Pete, I don't. I
don't forget to me. But at the same time, well,
you was probably out. You probably wouldn't do no, Pete,
really get it out the mood.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
He believed in that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
But like, even with that, if I did that, and
I'll say this much, my mom dad owned a big company.
There's a lot of legacy that they employed hundreds of people.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
And if you multiple jobs over there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
It got sold when I was too young.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
But I'll say that there were some family members that
got some hanger on jobs one kind of, but everybody
else who worked worked hard and contributed and excelled. The
couple guys there were hangers on people. They stuck him
in the back corner, and we're just like, here, here's
whatever he's going for. Just don't just don't get anybody's way,
just stay out of everyone's sight.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Shout out to free thinker Glasses, what do you think
of Raymond Washington and Turtle man. Turtle is the greatest
crip ever from Compton. He's the greatest crip ever from comping. Like,
if I had a top three list of Compton cripping,
Turtle would be number one. Where were gangs to be
number two?

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Games would be number two.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah, baby Gangster probably will be number two.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Shout out the baby Games. That's the dog.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Yeah, we need to we probably you know, we probably
need to have him on one day. But something different.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
I think Raymond Raymond is like a really like I
really want to do a film on Raymond, but in
a really unique way. Is he a no, No, he
passed away. He got killed in seventy nine, But Raymond
was one of those people, Like his story is really rich.
Raymond is the original founder of the Cribs like Took,

(01:19:27):
he kinda is credited, you know what I mean, But
he was more of like the logo. Raymond is actually
the first founder. Raymond and another brother from the East Side.
So yeah, them them is forgive me for saying it,
to some degree. They they are two of my favorite
characters in folklore. Like Turtle is just like my mom

(01:19:47):
knew Turtle. He was like everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
It's so difficult to get that movie done broke because
his daughter been trying to push that for a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
It's a complex story and it's it's a really we're play.
I'm never not celebrating black celebrating nepotism for black families
want to work Kevin. I don't think it's about him.
But it's okay to also have critigue, like y'all have
to stop. You gotta get your panties out of your crack.

(01:20:16):
It's okay to be critique like, to be critical of opportunity.
It's no crime in it. Lebron did what he's supposed
to do as a father, and it's okay still to
be crit like to critigue his son's ability. He's a
professional NBA player. Both things are okay. You don't have
to go one way, like you can live in a
space with polarty. That's what creates power. Like it's okay

(01:20:38):
that we're hyper critical of him getting an opportunity based
off his dad. We shouldn't be celebrating Brianni for getting
the opportunity anyway. We should be celebrating Lebron for doing
what he's supposed to do for a son, and we
should be critical over Bronni and what he does with
his opportunity. That's okay. Both things is great, no crime
in that like, but you gotta stop acting like it

(01:20:59):
gotta be one of the other or something is wrong
with you. You know what I'm saying. It ain't that serious, Bro,
not that serious. Shout out to revenge. We don't like
nepotism when they do it. But now it's our turn.
The psycho continues. I think it's both the same. Like
I said, it's okay that both things exist. Lebron is

(01:21:21):
doing the right thing by his son, and.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
If I was, If I was an NFL GM, my
son would be on the practice bro, so he could
be out there on the fifty three million rows.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
So I ain't leave in the front quaranteed contract.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
I think it's fair for all of us to say
the same thing. But it be okay if the rest
of the people that are fans of the NFL be critical.
If you're I wouldn't you personally.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
It's different when you ow the thing because it ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Nobody giving a damn. But I'm saying you can't be
mad at us because we like, Bro, this dude can't
play well.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
One thing I will tell you about NFL owners, Peter,
they not putting their sons on the team because that's
not really even the best position. They put these sons
in the office, the office, a few scouting jobs and stuff,
you know, scouting jobs and positions in the front office.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
But they're the owner and employer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
It's different when you're an employee to a degree.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
And then also and then we talked bad about Jim
Buss when Jim Bush was running the electors like this,
Nigga's horrible. We don't got as much to say about Jeannie.
Like listen, I agree, shout out to the hommy the
two t's network. What's her player? At least four other
players have sons in the NBA. Shot got his son
on the sack Kings, in my opinion, And if they

(01:22:38):
don't perform, we talking bad about them. Now that we
ain't talking bad about If he wasn't Lebron's son, wouldn't
nobody have nothing to say about him? So this is
what he wouldn't be in the NBA if he wasn't
Lebron's son.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
So this is what we averaged four at us.

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
That's how we know that, gentlemen. Let me let me
just say this real real quick. Let me just say
this real real quick. The honeymoon is over. Let's just
the honeymoon is over. It's beautiful while it lasted. We
got a chance, we gotta We got a moment in
history that will never probably see again. Bill Walton didn't
get a chance to play with Luke so on and

(01:23:19):
so forth. Let's just let's frame it and put it
in the trophy on the wall and let's remember it.
But to be quite honest, like I said, now, the
ship starts though, because once they send him to the
G League, they send him amongst the piranas and hyenas.
Bro They're not send him against guys. It's gonna be like, oh,
Bronnie coming, and they're gonna be trying to be chummy
with him. They're gonna shake hands before the game, and

(01:23:39):
then they're gonna try to knock his head off in
the game. They're gonna try to embarrass him. And that's
the that's the way that's gonna happen. And he may not.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Nobody has critigue for Lebron James for getting his son
in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
Hold on, hold on, and I got my home bay
JJ far from Long Beach, City from LBC.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Finally, what's happening? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Be a squad with oh memory? Were glasses in the man?
Could you tell these cats? I have no away condoned
game banging. I would never part of the game baning that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Classic come on the game fine never claimed the turk
still is hold up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
It was?

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
I ain't never played the set exactly exactly? Has he
ever did any type of Hey, what was his name
gonna be? From insane finbi? If you would have got him, I.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Don't know we gave him like you know, if you
tell you know, I don't know what kind of name
with he might.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Have been up for the many I don't know your
name his own name. It wouldn't have been her own
name though.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
He'd have been a country steel or something.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
I don't know, feel local something.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Beating the party Big Country though, miss Big Country Loan
Big Country.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
I call him big Rusty because it's like steal. But
he's from the rust Belt, so you know it's big
Rusty Rusty.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
That's definitely not a cool, crazy man man, It's always
good to hear your voice, baby, to make.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Sure Junior man, y'all have a good day.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Much love still shout out the Free Thinker. Isn't the
term cracking a gang time, not in Los Angeles, in
New York. It is in New York. It is not
to us. We don't really say that bracket is a
blood term, but cracking.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
Everybody said, oh, and she's back to this real quick.
I don't think there's nothing wrong with just like this.
If I'm in position to get the Homies job, I
would for sure to do it. If I'm in position
helps anybody on this panel feed their family in any
kind of way, I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Yes, But it's okay if somebody else that deserves the
position is critical of that decision, it's okay. Both things
can exist and it's good. Stop this. Everybody needs to
agree with your moves.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
They need to be and just.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
No, you need to pick up your Yes, you have
to pick up your balls and be okay with the critique.
It's okay. Like nobody's nobody's critical of Lebron James forgetting
his son. You don't hear people that Lebron got his
son in the NBA. Nobody's saying that. We all like
that is a dream for a father to be able

(01:26:39):
to play with his son. So it actually lifted bron
in my mind, like that was cool. You got your son.
Now his son can his son play? It's okay if
people are critical over his abilities, it's okay. It's a
professional NBA. NBA's professional basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Y'all gotta stop acting like that. Man, y'all gotta stop
acting like it's something wrong when people have fatigue over
certain things. That's a great point. Shout out the Deuce manifesto.
Nepotism worked for Cube. O'she Jr. And he dope. He
is funning his own way. I see it feel like
you know what I'm saying. So it can't work. That's

(01:27:20):
why nobody like, well little Shae only got the role
in the movie because he's cube son. No, he was
actually really good at Launch's career. He was great at
it worked out and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
It's actually been good. I saw him playing the character man.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
It was this movie about these thieves, right, and he
had a British accent.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
He pulled man. He in a movie where he was
in jail. I watched him get busy. Dude is yeah,
his daddy's son, bro. He is a talented might need
to be a better actor than Pops. That's probably, and
that's how it's supposed to be, you know what I mean.

(01:27:57):
Nepotism may have got him an opportunity to do with
the film, but f Gary Gray had to see the
potential because if you think about you know again, uh uh,
straight out of Compton, this is a nine figure film.
This film does incredible and they couldn't risk any mistakes.
So he he went up there and still with really

(01:28:18):
great actors, did his thing and now he's you know,
even like he's probably a better His dad is like
some dude really from the streets. This snakes out here,
this big. But he had to figure it out. His
son is like the Ben. He's benefiting from the opportunity
and he's doing a lot. It's working out for him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
She carried John Voyd and carried.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
His brother.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
Look at Donzel's kid went out of his way to
like distance himself from that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
I really like him. Brian was supposed to be better Lebron.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
That was.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Pete.

Speaker 6 (01:29:04):
I always wanted to say that on the podcast. I
want to say it one more time. It snakes out there,
this big.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
I'm cold.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
Bron is really a daddy ball dude telling people how
good he is. They want to see on the big stings,
they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Want him in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
That's what dad's is supposed to do. Listen, bron is
a whatever he didn't do as a father right now
on the father scale, he going up, I'll be like,
he be like, yeah, you know, my son can hang
with him, And I'll be like, that's a dad, like
like like like LeVar Ball like you be like, yeah,
this is what a dad is supposed to do. You see,

(01:29:44):
this is what a dad's supposed to do. Now, if
your son's got to live up to the hype and deliver,
and it's okay if we're critical over them. Shout out
to the homie revenge. He makes a great point, he said,
can y'all shout out to your social media at tag
at some point? I got steal in glasses, Pete, Yeah, Pete,
what's your social media to add?

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
I'm on Instagram.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
I am Peter Underscore bas Underscore Boss.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
That's a lot of shit, dude.

Speaker 7 (01:30:11):
I'm trying, Matt. I'm at t W A N N
A C twenty four.

Speaker 6 (01:30:17):
Just look, if you look for adult contemporary hip hop,
I should pop up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Shout out to the neighbor and Brownie don't got to
feed his family, it might be harder to be motivated.
What I think I think Brownie's issue. Bronnie is well
schooled in hoops. You can tell you at the best training.
You know, he got some decent athleticism. The one thing
that make all professional sports better than everything is game speed,
how fast things happen. And I think that's his problem.

(01:30:43):
Like for a guy his side, he needs a level
of explosive quickness or just this ridiculous over the top
skill set and it just may didn't come together that way.
But you know, shout out to Post for getting him
an opportunity, bro Like, at the end of the day,
like I'm Hypercris the core of lebron You know, as
a basketball player, he is one of the five greatest

(01:31:04):
players that ever plays, the greatest small forward. He had
the greatest career of any small forwards in the history
of basketball, you know what I mean. But his son
got his own legacy, and shout out to the opportunity
that is Dad presented him. You know what I'm saying
Like that as a father, yeah shit, Okay. If fans
are critical of his son's dedication and performances, both things

(01:31:29):
can exist. We're not now when you got to start
worrying about being mad at people, being mad at Lebron
forgiving his son. Nobody's saying, you know what, Lebron, you
gave your son opportunity. You ain't shit, That's not what's happening.
Your son got to be able to hoo, especially me
as a Laker fan. Again, this is No Centers Live
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