Red-Hot Raptors & Pistons, Herro's Season Debut, The Slop Scale Returns

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Good morning, Sweetirl, and welcome to the Now Dunks Podcast,
presented by Fan Duel. It's Tuesday, November twenty fifth, twenty
twenty five. I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory
and alongside me, as always Test.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Mellows podcast listeners, this is for you.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey
Kirby al Heyo and over Yonder making the magic happen.
Super producer jd. Hello, there is here. We are why
you're shooting.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Your fingers today. Ah, it's break week here in Atlanta.
Kids are off school. Okay, morning routines thrown.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
I feel like that tweet.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Where it's like I'm just gonna look at some box
scores and argue with people who watch the game because
I woke up about an hour later.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Than usual today.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
So I was watching last night with my dad, you know,
getting some ridicul takes from this old man, thinking yeah,
I'll catch up on the details in the morning, and
then Laura rolls over.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's a little uh, that's very very dark out here
in Atlanta today too.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Swarm woke up, starts pouring, So let's have a good show, all.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Right, Right, we were gonna have a good show. Hello
to everybody on YouTube, hit the light button, subscribe, make
sure you share the show, podcast listeners, five star ratings
and reviews. On today's show, it's the return of the
slop scale. We're going to weigh in on some few
trade rumors, so rumblings at least, So drop your piggies
in the chat right now because we'll slop it up later.
We'll get to the games from last night. But first

(01:40):
we had Weggie number fifteen, but it was a blink
and you'll miss it, Weggie from Duncan Robinson in Indiana.
And yeah, it sticks for a second, and then we
think Jaalen Duran sort of dislodges it by hitting the mesh,
maybe the backboard there. Otherwise it maybe would have stuck
a little longer. You never know, who kiss a shit.
We're counting it.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
We came up short last year, so we're counting everything.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I mean, I asked the guys in slack last night
and only counting this one. It was really quick tasted.
Sure Trey Kirby came in a little bit later. Yeah,
I count it, So there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's a pretty unique one because Duncan Robinson throws it
from the left side of the rim, and it lodges
in the right side of the rim. So I went
back and watched all of our forty eight wedgies from
last season because we've got YouTube video on it. It's
great YouTube channel, and there was one like that last year.
They're very unique to the Yeah. Yeah, I don't even
know if Jayalen Dura needed to touch the mesh at all.

(02:38):
It was coming down. Yeah it was a slipper. Yeah,
it probably was, but it does matter it wedge doesn't
matter wed wedge.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
So what do you think I should rate this on
the wedgie scale? When I do that every weekend, I
had it right now going quite low. Yeah, because it's
not there long. I was thinking half a star, maybe
one star, one raph. Yeah, honestly, it was there.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
It wasn't there long. The uniqueness of one side to
the other. I think that's warrant did to me. Kill
me on that a little. We've recovered these wedgies for
over a decade. How many have you seen those? Not many?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Not many rare tasts. You just gained it half a
ralse yea yeah, yeah, you'll have to wait till the weekend.
When I dropped that though on substack.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm half a star myself.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Now, man, well you're a full star. You're a superstar baby. Okay,
let's get into some of last night's games. Speaking of superstars,
how about those Toronto Raptors. Give me some Raptor news.
A Brandon Ingram scores a season high thirty seven. He
was cooking at times in this game as the Raptors
beat the shorthanded Cavaliers. A couple guys out again for Cleveland,

(03:44):
but the Raps took care of business one ten ninety nine.
They're eighth straight victory tasks and again b I the
big story, had a big third quarter, but thirty seven
season high.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
For him, most shots he shot all season long, thirty
shots in this game. His previous high was twenty one.
A lot of that happens because other coaches they double them.
They forced him to get it out of his hands.
Kenny Atkinson was not doing that. It's going one on one.
I criticized that from other coaches. I said, hell, we
now he can get other guys going, and you see
the tront Raptors. They are getting everybody going and everybody

(04:16):
pays off. Well, I ate my words yesterday because Ingram
was just on fire. A. He was just scorch and
one on one every time he ballfake you. That one
that he gave to Nikwon Tomlin, who went flying by
him as he gave him that ball fake was great. Listen.
I love how Ingram's playing period. He's number one. He's
playing a lot of games. He's matched his games played

(04:37):
from last season at eighteen. WHOA I was brought up
to him in the postgame interview and he's also said
Darko is our leader. You gotta like that. The coach
is your leader. I guess you like that or not, depending, buddy.
Everybody is playing hard. Ingram, Barnes, Bared and Quickly have
all played eighteen games. They close out quarters most importantly,

(05:00):
I think is the most important thing. They always close
them out well. They always finish it well and finish
off game as well, like they did in the fourth quarter.
Ingram is your leading scorer by far. But everybody's sort
of sort of a glue guy as we can see,
like Scottie Barnes ain't going to be a driver and
a finisher at the rim for his career. That's just
not who he is. He's not a takeover guy. Like that.

(05:22):
But when you got a score like this, and you
got a cutter like RJ. Barrett who was not in
this game with his knee injury, and you got quickly
doing his thing, all guys taking part, all guys playing minutes.
I admired it all, just sitting back and watching this
thing as a team. And then Barnes, excuse me, Ingram
again his best game of the season, no doubt. Were

(05:43):
you proud that.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
This game was on Peacock here in America last day
sort of the national TV audience to see this Raptors team.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Sort of at the same time, you know, the bordering
city of Mississauga to Toronto, and hearing Mark Followell, who's
calling the game on Peacock, he saw Emmanuel quickly line
one up from thirty eight feet man thirty six feet.
It was a bomb of a shot, and Mark Followell
said from mississaugua, he didn't pronounce it correctly. That's okay, Mark,

(06:12):
you brought it. They did bring it on Peakyck him
and Derek Fisher beside him.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Derek Fisher, Yeah, wasn't the biggest fan of Derek Fisher.
From being completely honest for sher, he.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Didn't have a lot of flair. He's a solid he
is pretty boring. Is a solid just a solid guy,
like he was a solid player. That's who he is. True.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
True, he broadcast like he plays. I agree with that.
But it was cool that they at least put this
performance together again with a lot of more eyeballs I
guess on Toronto Raptors. Yeah, yeah, than normal.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I couldn't believe Ingram took thirty shots. It didn't feel
like it at all to me, like thirty shots in
the flow of the offense. I don't know, but he
was playing single coverage, so go and score, which is
exactly what the Raptors needed. Ingram at the very least,
he's an All Star talent. Maybe he'll be an All
Star this year. One hundred percent American as far as
I can tell.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
We shall see.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
He looks like an All Stars so far. But he's
established a hierarchy in Toronto. He's the number one guy.
He's the number one scorer when it comes down to
it in a late shot clock situation, he's the guy
to go and get a basket, so that slots everybody
else down a little bit lower in the pecking order,
which is what the Raptors needed. It allows Scotty Barnes
to be a transition player and to attack when he

(07:23):
has an advantage. It allows quickly to play against a
lesser defender right and when Pearl's out there, he can
go score. It just ups their talent level and gives
them somebody who can get a basket.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I thought that side step three towards the end of
the third quarter that was a beauty.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Couldn't believe he get his feet behind the line on
that one from the corner. So I was critical of
the Ingram acquisition, especially when he didn't play at all
last year. He feels like they got him in free
agency over the summer, but really they just extended him
after doing the trade last year. But he's been exactly
what the Raptors needed. It's weird, though that they've already
finished their season series with the Cavs.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
How's that pot.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
For the Raps? I was missing all these guys. Unfortunately,
we haven't seen like two fully squad teams go against
each other here, and we won't until I guess, potentially
the playoffs, because they're done. That's not even December and
they're done their season series.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, from that cav side. Evan Mobley just wasn't awesome
in this game. I don't know where the bounce is
in his dribble package. He just doesn't seem super confident.
Three point shot was available that one where Barnes was
on him. It was a Barnes had to go cover
him and there was time to let it go. He
still put it on the floor and that's when Barnes

(08:34):
doing his thing, incredible steal because he's so good at that.
Evan Mobley just hasn't lived up to that this season.
He just hasn't been peak Kevin Mobley. And it's odd,
I think because Darius Carland hasn't played so much of
the game, so many of the games, you can just
rely on Evan mobleymore. Right. So, that step that we've
all wondered, we've all demanded it said that that was

(08:59):
where they were going to take their next step in
the postseason has not happened. You need to see Evan
Mobley growing. It has not grown.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
A few other notes, going back to Scottie Barnes, can't
take my eyes off him when he's on the defensive
end of the floor. Right now, he is everywhere on
the defensive end, he's digging in on drives, he's sliding back,
he's protecting the rim. You guys already talked about how
disruptive he is with those long arms, and then that
gets them in transition. He's gonna be. He's on his
way to being I think at least on one of

(09:28):
the all defensive teams, probably first team All Defense right now,
right you were even thrown out the idea where is
he in the defensive player of the year conversation with
no Webinama right now being short on games, and there's
some other names on that list, but I think he's
on the short list for sure.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
He was great.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Jamal shed this guy's fantastic. Like once again, multiple times
he like just blew by Cavaliers players after they had
breakdowns defensively sort of scrambling. He's just like, all right,
let's take it right to the front of the rim.
And I love how quickly he gets off the ball
as a point guard, like he just does not hold it.
It's just it's like not even leading immediately to an

(10:06):
assist for him, It's just like the play that leads
to them the assists, like it's the hockey assist. I
guess he's so good at just moving it quickly. He's
been a revelation at what the forty fifth pick or
something like that second round pick, I think he went,
and he's given them quality minutes. Mamu was great early
on in this game. Hit a couple of threes, had
a couple of blocks, and I got to get it
up to Darko. He started Jacobe Walter in place of

(10:27):
injured RJ.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Barrett.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
He was one of the main reasons, along with Shed
as the game went on in containing Donovan Mitchell now
again Cleveland missing guy. So you can put a lot
of focus on Donovan Mitchell bad game though, seventeen points,
and it was Walter. It was Shed a lot of times,
and then the rest of the Health defense in making
it a rough night for him. Both teams run back
to back, so it's not like one team had that
excuse more than the other. They were just great and

(10:52):
Darkoman he is just pushing all the right buttons. He's
got this team organized. He said he's the leader. He
comes into the locker room going nuts. I was concerned
early on. I didn't know what their defensive game plan was.
They are those first five games and he's turned it
around and he's obviously not going anywhere because he's been
an elite coach here with this winning streak.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Randerninger basically said, he's the reason why I'm good right now. Yeah,
and he's had an effect on Ingram.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Ingram is a guy playing with the Pelicans who would
get the ball, dribble, dribble, dribble, finally get into a shot.
He's playing a lot quicker now. And like you're saying,
the Raptors are a pretty deep team. Their bench is
a lot of the reason I think that they win
these games because they can play five guys who actually.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Know what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Shed picks up the tempo, moves the ball, Mamu stretches
the floor so they're playing five out.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Gives guys a lot of space to score.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Inside, give them a combination sixth man of the year,
maybe sixth and seventh man of the year because they
come in together and they look great.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, the depth is of ridiculous. It was Scottie Barnes
in that pre season interview was with Kayla Gray when
he was talking about the musicals that he likes. He
loves Hamilton. He's seen it like five times, but he
talked about how deep they are, that they're literally like
thirteen fourteen, fifteen deep. It is one hundred percent true
right now. They are super deep. He's mentioned Jacoby Walter

(12:08):
starting he was guarding was it the Auzzie Tyre's Proctor,
like eighty feet from the bucket and he got pushed
by Procter and he drew a foul. That kind of
stuff you need six minutes left Emmanuel quickly with that
awesome steal. Those little plays are what win you games.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, And this was a close game, right, And the
Raptors have been turning these super close contests into ten
or eleven point victories in the final minutes because they
sort of ramp it up there. And maybe that's the
depth of the squad. There's a little more fresh legs
than some of these guys because they can rotate so
many guys in you're right, yeah, And it's all those
little things that out up to these wins.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah. And the pressure that this has taken off of
Scottie Barnes, he went from All Star to last year
to everybody expecting what is he going to take that
next step? And he's just never He's never going to
be that number one offensive guy. I don't think where
you can just drive in. But now he doesn't have
the pressure. He can just operate in the fast break
and do what he does really really well post moves.

(13:05):
He does that really really well. And so he's just
using that advantage. And yeah, the hierarchy works scoring wise,
brandon Ingram just buying into the passes, not having to
shoot every single game or every single possession. Again, he's
not to go from twenty one to thirty in terms
of his highest field goal attempts. Just shows he's want

(13:25):
to be a team guy. He's playing that role extremely
well and it trickles down to everybody.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Let's keep it moving. Let's go to the Miami Heat.
I got Tyler hero back score twenty four in his
season debut. They took care of business. It was pretty
close there over the Dallas Mavericks one six, one two.
I thought there was some sloppy play on both ends
down the stretch, but Hero did hit a big shot.
TK Let's start with you on Hero, how we looked
to you and them getting the win.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Hero did hit the biggest shot of the night.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
After a kind of disaster class performance from PJ Washington
in the last minute.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Of the Chevy tracks was broken down side of the road.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, that was a.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Not c Well call them too for different reasons.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
But I'm like, I'm buying it. I'm buying.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
In Canada.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, Okay, they're gonna have to come a long way
down to Miami. Call my Canadian auto insurance come off fix, Mike.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
What the hell do they call it here?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Then?

Speaker 4 (14:25):
What do we call it?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Triple A? Triple A?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah, sure, that's the American Association for Retired.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, the old people, the old people.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
My guess is that whatever Triple A stands for, you
swap out the first day and it turns into CIA,
that's probably it.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I'm not gonna look it up. I'd rather just have
a feeling that that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
And I was feeling like Tyler Hero here we go
didn't distract from what the Miami Heat had been doing.
He was playing fast, which I think is kind of
the key for the Heat. They get the ball moving,
they get the ball up the court, they score as
fast as they possibly can.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Hero was doing that.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Went twelve of eighteen from the field. Felt like all
twelve of his shots were floaters.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
They weren't all floaters, but it felt like they were.
He's also just another good scorer with the ball in
his hand. Like we talked about yesterday, the Heat are
just weaponizing one on ones, keep the ball moving. Let
whoever has an advantage attack, and Hero was able to
do that for Miami last night. I did think the
ball stuck in his hand a little bit. Sometimes he's
a guy who likes to get into his bag and

(15:24):
do some cool crossovers and get to a pull up jumper.
That happened a little bit with Hero, but not so
much that it distracted from the way the Heat want
to be playing and how they have been playing so
far this season. So I thought a great performance from
him for his first game back. He looked like he
was totally in the flow with Miami and then Khalil Ware.
This guy has been straight up hooping in the last
three games for Miami. Twenty eight points, eighteen boards, three

(15:48):
monster blocks last night. Also hit three threes. Prior to
that against Philadelphia twenty points, sixteen boards. I think he
had eight offensive in that game. He was dominant there
and then when they destroyed the Bulls twenty points fourteen
rebounds coming around. They need him to be a force
at the rim. Throwing him lobbs is the majority of
the way he's going to score and then hitting wide
open threes. But having a guy who could score inside,

(16:09):
even if it's just finishing plays, is big time for Miami.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, super physical, talking smack. We didn't know that that
was coming. I don't think I didn't know what was coming.
You saw a slow start here in sophomore season number
two for him, and he did start so but now
he is there clue wars Reas.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Averaging twenty and sixteen over his last three games. Like
Trey said, there through the box score.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, yeah, and you get back your best offensive player.
As much as I respect Norman Powell, who wasn't playing
in this game, the best offensive player in a one
on one situation is Tyler Hero and he was a baller.
Even though he had a slow start in this game.
His first stint was bad. You could see he was rusty,
you can see that, and he missed his first two shots.
He didn't have zero points in that first eight minute stint.

(16:54):
He goes to the bench, comes back out and he
was awesome the rest of the way. The rest of
the way. He was twelve of sixteen. He's twelve of
sixteen overall on two point shots because he didn't hit
a three, and the floater was the thing that was
getting in with those two point shots. It was floater time.
I mean, he looks like he's got the best floater
on that team.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Oh that one at the end there, like the one
that sort of one in the game. That was a
real true floater too, that was skied. Nice touch on that.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
And that was the the PJ. Washington pass that got
stolen by day J. Washington, thinking on that play, just
gave it to Bam.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
He like threw it to him. Bam jumped up and
got it and then did a good job to like
keep it in bounds because I think his momentum was
taking him out. Yeah, I guess PJ. Washington saw. I
think it was emhard in the corner and just forgot
that there was another Mavericks player and Bam between him
and the corner.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
He was in your robot mode. He was like, here's
the play, I must pass it to the corner. Cooper
flag was wide open up top. Yeah, so brutal play
by PJ.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Washington.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
He also missed the three from the corner twenty eight
seconds left, pretty much a wide open look. I would
have actually liked to see Clay Thompson take the shot.
He catches it on the wing and hesitates, gets it
p J. Wide open shot for PJ brick job. But
Clay hesitated. You know, he had just missed a big
shot against the Grizzlies. Maybe that's factoring into his head.
Hasn't had a great season, but he told us watch

(18:11):
the big players are coming.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Take the shot.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Also, I would have liked to see Cooper flag take
the shot. He gets the ball at the top of
the key.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
When PJ.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Washington missed, he had another three from the top of
the key, this one six seconds left.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Cooper had a chance to attack. Nobody's gonna be upset
if you missed the shot. Go do it.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
He's a guy that likes to make the right play.
It's been playing really well for the past couple of
weeks here. I would like to see him go a
little hero ball mode.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
What did did you watch that last night?

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
What'd your dad think of Cooper Flagg?

Speaker 4 (18:36):
And he said take the shot?

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, He's like yeah, but he plays the right way.
He does play the right way. I will say, sometimes
you gotta play the wrong way. Yeah, see PJ.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Washington was trying to play the right way didn't work.
Flag trying to play the right way didn't work. Sometimes
you gotta take it upon yourself. Be a man out there,
man out there.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
He's still a boy, that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
He's still a boy.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Sweaty, sweaty boy. Well, yeah, take the undershirt off man.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
And well, I just want to say Tyler Hero was
playing d in this game. He's the guy who usually
gets played off on the floor defensively, he was out
there working. He was even top blocking at times. He
was doing some stuff out there. So I will say
that about him. They win a game because of him.
They shot three from three point lane, they shot nineteen percent.
They couldn't hit a three, so Tyler Hero comes back

(19:24):
and gets it all done.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I did like that he wasn't like settling for threes
in this game, because Tyler Hero can get them up
in a hurry, and he can take a lot of threes,
and he can make a lot of threes too. But yeah,
I think the box score only had like two attempts.
He didn't hit one like nobody could. Yeah, but like
he was attacking getting inside and you guys said the
floater time after.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Time, he's buying. It seems like he's buying into whatever
exposure wants. I think he's going to adapt, and it
seems like he bought it. I will say Cooper flight. Also,
he sticks with the game. You can see him play
really well in fourth quarters even if he doesn't have
it going. So that's a great sign for a rook Yeah,
it's true. He just keeps it going and hits shots.
It was a crazy fourth, crazy second half. I think

(20:01):
for Jason Kidd who said, here comes Ryan Emhart. Ryan
Emhart didn't play in the first half. He comes out
and takes all of Dangel Russell's minutes in the second half,
even Brandon Williams minutes. They got some wild stuff happening
in Dallas. We'll get to trade talk a little bit later,
but what a strange team happening there in Dallas yesterday.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I think it was yesterday's show. I was wondering, you know,
Norman Powell, how great he's played. Looks like he could
be making his first All Star game. Didn't play last night,
but I was wondering where he ranks or where would
he rank among the oldest first time All Stars in
NBA history. I looked it up. It's a fun list.
In twenty fifteen, Hawks guard Kyle Korver was named by

(20:42):
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver to replace injured Eastern Conference All
Star reserve Dwayne Wade. Korver was thirty three years and
eleven months sold, so Korver at the time became the
fourth oldest first time All Star in NBA history, behind
Nicks at Sweetwater Clifton, he was thirty four years old

(21:03):
in nineteen fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
We're going to win back then.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Two fun names Timberwolves Sam Cassell thirty four years old
and two months in two thousand and four, and I
did not remember. This is the team he made it
with Anthony Mason with the Miami Heat. I thought for
sure Mason made an All Star team with the Knicks
or the Hornets, but no, it was his first year

(21:27):
with Miami, thirty four years two months in two thousand
and one. The only other one older then would be
Norman Powell, who's like thirty two and a half. King
center Vladi Divac, he had just turned thirty three before
his first All Star game in February two thousand and one.
So he had a couple old guys that year making
their first All Star Game. So Norm will be the

(21:50):
sixth oldest if he makes it. Guys, because Mark Eaton
and Antonio Davis were thirty two as well, but Norm's
a bit older, or will be a bit older if
he made Eaton made an All Star Our team. Yeah, yeah, ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I would love to see the highlights Mark Eaton going
through his legs.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Davis doing much else.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Those screens that Joe Kim Noah the All Star Game
like set and screens and playing defense.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Why these guys now, It's like, I don't worry about
Marking in the All Star Game throwing out.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I wonder how many blocks they had in the Stars
set the record, all right, it's keep going. Pistons win
their thirteenth straight. They tie their franchise record. They beat
the Pacers one twenty two UH one seventeen. Detroit matched
the winning streak from nineteen ninety and two thousand and
four NBA Championship teams, and they improved to fifteen and two.

(22:43):
Pretty stunning turnaround for a franchise that started the twenty
three to twenty four season, which is two seasons ago,
three and thirty six, and they finished with fourteen seasons
that year. And to put it another way, shout out
to Zilla for this. The Pistons could lose their next
sixty five games straight and finished with a better record

(23:03):
than they did two years ago.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Wow, great man, cool, that's crazy, man.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
They're fifteen and two. They won fourteen total games two
years ago. But any thoughts on the game are all
the Pistols.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Well you mentioned, yeah, the last time they had a
great long winning streak speaks to these old jerseys that
they were wearing. Last night. They had the teal going
on there and I think against the old school Pacers
jersey on that old school court, they look great.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Great matchups, didn't It looked unusual, but I thought it
looked cool.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
It took you a second realized the Pacers were playing
the Pistons.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, yeah, okay, because the pace, because the Pistons have that,
they call it charcoal. It ain't black. They're Jersey with
the course. Yeah, of course, midnight black. I guess Motown charcoal.
I'm sure it's called they always do that. I like them,
I do that, but I like the Pacers too. At
the course. Yeah, I think they all look great. Listen,

(23:57):
the pacers are starting to click. I know it's it's
all in stock here. I mean, that was a good game.
I know they're starting to click.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
They did win, they did win this month.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
But they're starting now play. That was a good loss.
There's Jerris Walker five three splash TG McConnell finally looking
like himself, saying Colin Gillespie is the new me. Shut up,
I'm playing basketball here, basketball Pascal looking like himself. Anyways,
it's all about the business right now. They look awesome. Obviously,
Kay doing his thing. Sorr Thompson I thought looked good

(24:29):
in so many little flashes.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Thompson twins looking good last night.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, so they got it done. Not much more to
talk about.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I would say Kid had twenty four points, eleven boards,
six assists, and he hit that I guess what do
you call it, like a little jump hook there in
the final minute. Yeah, with the shot clock winding down,
and that held off Indiana's late rally. Because you're right,
it was close, but that was was a lie. Big Bucket.
Durant did his thing. That guy's an all star. Seventeen
and twelve for him, carosel vert with nineteen points last

(24:56):
night for Detroit and J and Ivy limited minutes once again,
but contributed once again.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
TK.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I thought the Cad hook was pretty cool because the
Pistons were maybe gonna blow this one. You know, they
took their foot off the gas carbon, but they needed
a bucket in Cad. Just as like, I'm bigger than
everybody out there, there's not really a matchup for Caid
on the PACER's side of things when it came down
to it. So he got down into the post shot
a hook shot. I remember in his like pre draft

(25:23):
stuff that he's like, I learned how to shoot the
hook shot in eighth grade. I used to be a
post player. You never hear that for a guy who's
a ballhand. It's always post player. Used to be the point.
Complete flip but four baskets in the restricted area for
kid on this one also drew ten free throw attempts,
went eight to ten at the line.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
You love to see it.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
You love to see him using his physicality and his
size as a gigantic guard out there. So I thought
that was pretty smooth from him. And I also loved
the last play that the pistons ran when they're just
trying to run out the clock. First of all, they
had Karris Lavert hiding by their bench.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah, Jarris Walker was like, I don't know who to guard?
Where is this guy?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
And then they're like, wait, you got to stuff out
from the bench a little bit. So Caris Livert steps
out from the bench, Jariss Walker gets there. They blow
the whistle and bounce the ball and Lavert just sprints
right past them, Like, uh oh, we put a slow
guy out of fast guy.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
What are you supposed to do? Carpun again, smart stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
It's like literally just working with the matchups of Okay,
so you have a defender, a big guy defender, a
Jaris Walker who can move like.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
He's not a slow guy, but he's not guard fast.
So Lavert just literally ran past him.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yah, I was smart. I want to get your opinion
on a Michael Red tweet that he shared the other day. No,
I saw it going around again. I think he shared
it almost a week ago, but he said on Twitter
on X Michael read the great Michael Red. Uh, Kate
Cunningham reminds me a lot of Brandon Roy. I was like, hm,
I mean, let me chew on that. Let me think
about that. Any opinions on similarities between the two. Britain

(26:49):
Roy at his peak is obviously what Michael Redd is
talking about in the Blazer's days, didn't have a long career,
unfortunately because of injuries. But you know, seasons one through
five compared to where Kate is right now, one through
four and a bit and in his fifth season, you
see them.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Big body, never go too fast, always play at their
own speed, get to their spots. Kid's got more of
a dribble game than Brandon Roy. I would say Brandon
Road was awesome, but I think Kid's got a little
bit more, a little bit more, shake, a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I agree. I think Kate is also beat. Brandon Road
was awesome, he was, and I think Kate is like
well on his way to being better, and maybe he's
already there. I see some similarity man, Michael Red. When
he tweets I read, I like, at least it got
people talking it through, which I thought was fun.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
I don't see it. But Michael Red is an NBA
all start, I'm not Do.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
You see any other comparisons. Let's say, to Kate, I'm
putting on the spot here.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
He's a big guard and that's that's the difference to
me between him and Mike uh and Brandon roy Like
Brandon roy I think of as a perimeter scorer, shooting jumper.
He was more of a shooting guard a little yeah,
And I think if Kate is a guy who likes
to get into and work from there, like I don't
think it's a coincidence that in the past two seasons,
as he's taken a leap forward, he's gotten a lot
better at finishing. Everybody compares him to Luca. I think

(28:08):
he's more along the lines of like a Luca or
a James Harden, guys who are big and strong and
want to do their damage inside and then also can
play on the perimeter as well.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I don't know if Michael Red thought this, but I
do see some similarities between the demeanor between Kate Cunningham
and Brandon Royce now they hold themselves, I think, and
maybe again Red's looking into that. But fun tweet, great
follow on Twitter for sure. Final game really of note
here we already talked about Asar Thompson there with Detroit
or he got slipped in, but am N Thompson twenty
eight points for Houston last night. They rolled past the

(28:40):
Suns one fourteen ninety two, despite missing Kevin Durant, who
is missing the next two games. So he's now missed
one because of family matters. Hopefully everything's okay with him
and his fam But thoughts on the Rocks.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Rocks are obviously doing what they need to do. They
won the fast break battle eighteen to four in this game.
I thought that was super important, just getting buckets whenever
they needed to get them. But Sara Thompson doing it,
I mean, I'm in Thompson doing his thing. Alburn Shangun
doing his thing. I think they should call it the
Shane Goon shovel. Whenever he's got a little bit of

(29:14):
a pass, he's underneath, he gets doubled and he goes
underneath the arms. That was a nice little pass. So
no Kevin duran out there. They also don't we know
we don't. They don't have Fred van vliet Tary sent
out Dorrine Phiney Smith is still on that roster. They're
missing a lot of guys. And then Read Shepherd comes in,
looks freaking great, starting as he always does. He looks fantastic.

(29:35):
He's just figuring things out and then Aaron Holliday comes
in off the bench with six threes. There's no fights
with Dylan Brooks. I mean, this team just gets it
all together. We got close yeaheah, take it close.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I caught he was getting the flavorant and it was
like his third file at the end of the half, right,
he like knocked over. I was like, okay, so this
isn't actually gonna happen. There's no way Dylan Brooks is
strong enough to knock over Steve Stup laughing, And there's
like the great moment with Udoka.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah pushes him.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I actually exact, I love how much I hate that's
how much Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks grew after Memphis. Even
the Rockets can't fight him, they still had friends with
him there. So yeah, that was just It showed the
depth of this Rockets team, which is surprising considering all
of their injuries, considering the kids, well Read Shepherd's the
only kid at point guard. Aaron Hallid, I guess is

(30:26):
an old man. But those guys that have never been
a number one and number two, they have not, so yeah,
they're they're finding it at all.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
And this was one of the games that delivered one
of Steve Kirby, Your dad's crazy takes. Oh my good
last night, can you share that with the crowd we're watching,
We're talking about how Red Shepherd's playing really well. He's
saying my takes back to me. He's like, they figured
out how to use Red Shepherd.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
I was like, yeah, I know. He must be listening
to no dunks than he is myday Tuesday, Thursday.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
He doesn't listen Wednesday or Friday. Listen to the drum.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Don't know. I don't know. That's what our shows doesn't
He doesn't like rapid fire. I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Anyways, he goes, you know who Reed Shepherd reminds me of.
I'm thinking he's got to say Mark Price for sure.
Kyle Macy was like who what literal who? So I
had to look him up on Basketball Reference. Drafted in
nineteen seventy nine. He's got a black and white photo
on Blasketball Reference. His nickname is Vitalis. I was like,

(31:25):
this is the oldest person anyone's ever been compared.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
To Kyle Macy.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
But he played in the eighties.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
He played in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
I don't know why they won't have a photo was like,
it's like nineteen fifty seven, Like he's playing with sweetwater
and clifted.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah exactly, but like he's got a little bit of
a reed. Shepherd looked to it the look. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
But a lot of random sons were coming up. Walter
Davis I was talking about Devin Booker had just passed
Walter Davis on the all time scoring list, and then
we started talking about Alvin Adams.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Oh yeah, another guy. You don't think Alvin Adams looks
like he does. I couldn't believe there's a guy named
Kyle who was born in the nineteen fifties. I thought
that name.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Started coming around in the nineteen to eight Kyle Macy
but reached Jeopardy's the new Kyle Macy out there. And
Aaron Holliday, dude's on a roll right now. Twenty two
points last night, six threes, Like you said, He's been
in double digits in four of his last five games.
I remember in the game against the Cavaliers he had
like a massive fourth quarter. I think he had fourteen

(32:21):
in the fourth quarter. He's up to forty eight percent
from three this season, Like as long as one of
Reid and Aaron Holliday shoots well off the bench. They've
got enough perimeter play at least right now with the
way Shgun is able to create. Only five assists I
think last night for Schenggun, but he's up to seven
assists per game this season doing the Shehngoon shuffle career
high and assists career high and assists right. He draws

(32:42):
a double team almost every time he catches the ball inside,
and then the Rockets are playing unselfishly enough that they
moved the ball as soon as they get the ball
out of his hands. The fast break was the difference,
I really thought in this one, and that's why I'm
huh men. Thompson went nuts just running the court. Looked
like the best athlete out there, as he usually does.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Two or three like incredible plays. Again, last night, you
had that double clutch dunk on the baseline. I think
he got compared to Dominique Wilkins with that one. How
he put it down and then that beautiful like I
guess like acrobatics, sort of Jordan like is the best
way to describe it, sort of up and under the
defense as he flipped it up and scooped it up
off the glass. Also pretty that one in transition. Guy

(33:22):
is just like next level athlete on a floor full
of athletes.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
It's so weird.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
We've said it a million times at this point.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
But good Win here and he's under control at all times.
He never rushes himself like a young Brandon Roy or
Kate Cunningham or Luka Doncic. I mean he's got a
post move. Balfick, Balfick, Balfick, Balfick, Balfick. He's got that
in his game. He's got it all.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
So Rockets win. Other results from last night, Jad, I
think you've got the board here. Just show it to
everybody on YouTube. At least I'll read them out quickly
for everybody. Nicks beat the Nets. They own them. Twelve
straight victory over Brooklyn, Jamal Murray, Peyton Watson helped the
Nuggets hold off a late push by the Grizzlies. Jeremy
Grant thirty five points to lead the Blazers over the
slumping Bucks. H oh no, Joannis, that's a problem. Zion

(34:09):
scored twenty nine. Pelicans ended a nine game skid against
Trey Kirby's Chicago Bulls. Vooch was right, it's not clowning
around kids. Steph Curry scored thirty one. He looked great
as the Warriors ran away from the Jazz, and then
the Kings took advantage of the wolves second straight collapse
with the one seventeen one to twelve overtime victory. Who

(34:32):
wants to get a start on any of these that
you want to point out?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
The Wolves need an asshole, they need Chris Paul, they
need somebody to finish games just to get them right.
They're off ten with three minutes left and they only
scored two points the rest of regulation, so goes into overtime.
That's when the Kings take care of business. Also, Randall
just didn't finish the game very well, which happens that time.
Six turnovers for him. Listen, I said the Pacers have

(34:58):
something to play for the Kings they don't, but I will.
I will not put them in that same category. But
it was cool to see some stuff something for fans,
like Molik Monk diving with him minute left in overtime
out of bounce to save a ball. That's at least something. Yeah,
it's not got his.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Little section of the game where he caught fire too,
that was big. And then Keegan Murray was was great.
He really was. Twenty six points, ten to nineteen shooting,
hit a couple of threes, fourteen rebounds for him as well,
and all the talk after the game is like, I
think it was, I guess it was. Zach Levine was like, yeah,
this is Keegan Murray's team. I love that because he's like, yeah,
everybody else is gonna get traded, So it's his team

(35:36):
because it might be the only one left here when
it's all said and done, but it is and maybe
should be. So he played great.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Does that have to do with him not playing in
overtime like Levine played three seconds in overtime they went
to Malik Monk Monk is playing hard. I'm done game,
Christie making at least trying different things to see. But yes,
we'll get to the Kings and Hulu will trade a
little bit later in the show, and yeah, Levin's on
the table. I will say. Now it's from the Mimuso timberwolfside.

(36:04):
They've lost too in row. As you said late game,
they're still in pace for forty eight wins. It's somewhat
like last year where they finished the season off seventeen
and four, went into the playoffs and doing that but
I guess that's what they do. I guess that's what
an Anthony Edwards seems does now, Like they just don't play,
so they're above their opponent, to their potential, to their

(36:27):
own potential. A lot of the times that's what they did.
Yeahgas game completely collapse.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
They missed seventeen of their last nineteen shots in the
fourth quarter. Chris Finch is just like shuffling guys in
and out, like Jalen Clark, barely played and suddenly he's in,
you know, for defensive purposes. They've got a minus one
point seven net rating in the fourth quarter this season,
and they've played the second easiest schedule in the league.
So they're blowing these leads because they have absolutely no
flow offensively, because they have no point guard. Offensively, Anthony

(36:53):
Edwards can be a good playmaker. Randall can be a
good playmaker, but he's turning the ball over a ton
this past week. It just seems like despite the fact
that they brought pretty much everybody back, no chemistry for
this team and no trust from Chris Finch on any
of the young guys. Like Shannon was out of the
lineup with an injury, he came back didn't hardly play.
Rob Dillingham doesn't look like he's ready to be on

(37:14):
the court right now, does not look strong enough to
be on the court right now. De Vincenzo not a playmaker.
Everybody's out there trying to get their own shot, trying
to fix the problem by themselves, when what they need
is a little unity. That's why they were so good
in the second half of last season, because like you're saying,
they were struggling through the first half of the year
last year. They do have a decent record right now,
it's because they've beaten up on some easy teams. Like

(37:35):
we said yesterday, no wins against winners. Still don't have
any wins against winners. Something's going to have to change
for this team, and they don't have a lot of
ways to upgrade going forward, so it's going to have
to be internal stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I think, yep, it's a great point, and I sort
of pause there on the slumping Bucks line because TK
you said it in the preseason. Milwaukee has fallen to
zero to four without Yannis this season. I saw Ziller
with the breakdown with the numbers, they're pretty alarming. The
Bucks are plus seventy four this season in Giannis's four
hundred plus minutes on the court, and they're minus one

(38:07):
twenty five in the four hundred and sixty minutes now
without him out there, not shocking by any means. Jannis plays,
they're good. Jannis doesn't play, they're below average unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, they're only winning the past three weeks has been
against the Hornets in overtime, and that was the Konka
Nipple game. Not a great run here for the Bucks.
I was impressed, however, with the Denver Nuggets pulling off
yet another win, this one against the Grizzlies. Jokic was awesome,
seventeen points, sixteen assists. Had a beauty late in the

(38:41):
fourth quarter that was just wowing everybody. A dish to
Peyton Watson. It was like kind of like a spin
move behind the back pass out of the post. Yeah,
just cool stuff to see Wit a minute to go
in a close games. Yeah, yeah, that's not a risky pass,
no for you, of course. I mean he was wide
open as well, Yeah, Watson was. And Watson played really well,
twenty seven points for him. They moved him into the

(39:02):
starting lineup when Christian Brown went down. But now it's
Christian Brown, it's also Aaron Gordon. But in seven games
as a starter, Watson is at sixteen points per game,
seven rebounds, basically a steal and a block per game,
shooting forty seven percent from three. And Jokic is going
to feed him the ball. He's saying, take the shots.
We don't care if you miss, and right now he's
not missing. If you've got a guy who's going to
empower you, it builds your confidence, and that's what Peyton

(39:23):
Watson needs to be able to shoot well. So if
they can get him rolling and keep him playing well
once their starters come back, that's like another guy who's
going to contribute to this team.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I said that yesterday. That could be the silver lining
of the injury to Aaron Gordon and Christian Brown. A
guy like Watson again, maybe another guy like Strawther. They
get more opportunity, they get more chances to play with
these other guys, the starter guys, and maybe you can
turn into like something special down the line. And yeah,
part of that rotation and you know, help win a
quarter or a half or a game even in a

(39:55):
playoff series. So we'll see by the great game from him.
Jamal Murray too.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
He cooked.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I thought as well, Okay, those are last night's games.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
How about those Tone Warriors.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
You see that was not a City edition court, was it? No?
It didn't say City edition on I.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Thought it was written in brown in the brown lade.
They had three brown on the court.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
There was a long brown.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, okay, maybe I'm brod.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
I couldn't see edition was I'm gonna have to go
into the getty images. Yeah, hands and hands and hands.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
That's weird though, look like an old timey photo.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah, that's the good way to put it. It's like
that Instagram filter uses anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
It's like, why do we have these still? It's like
old shows coming back. Everything is coming back in terms
of hardwood hardwood floor looks in NBA games, right, I
mean there's NBA teams are just going, oh yeah, that
was cool. Let's do it again.

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(42:41):
to make. So let's open up the barn doors, JD.
Time to beat the pigs.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Snap it up our first slop scale of the season,
where we are our worst intro.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
No, this is a good way. Yeah, it literally grosses
me out to see that.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Trom but it kind of looks like a Thanksgiving Oh God,
the same color, same color pattern.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
You're wrong, green corn gravy. So we're weighing in on
the latest NBA trade rumors using the slop scale. So
the heavier, the juicier, the sloppier an NBA trade rumor,
the more buckets a slop the boys will assign to it.
We go from one bucket to slop all the way
up to five buckets of slop. That is maximum slop.

(43:30):
So let's get it started. First one here, DeMar Derosen
is drawing some interest from the LA Clippers, according to
the Athletic Sam Amic, in part because of his partially
guaranteed contract for next season that could pay him only
ten million dollars of the twenty seven million dollar deal.
So we start with this one. Clippers interested in Derozen?

(43:50):
How many buckets a slop?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I'm not lying for this one. It's one bucket of slop.
It ain't happening. I don't buy it at all. Okay,
they need a three point shooter or ain't that? Do
we need another older player? No disrespect to Damorrow, but
this team doesn't need to get older. It's the same
shot maps as Kawhi Leonard out there. Why do you
do you need to pull it out? You're old, you

(44:13):
need to This team needs to pull it out. I
guess they tried to get tomorrow. They thought they're getting
tomorrow when Kawhi tours a cl Likes four years ago

(44:34):
when they were on their conference finals run those Clippers.
All that was the day, and then that offseason there
was lots to talk about tomorrow going there. But do
you need him now? It doesn't make sense to me.
I understand the partial guarantee is appealing because it's not
a ton of money in twenty six twenty seven, but still,
I know the Kings are going to do something, and

(44:55):
anything for a Kings fan right now that we'll get
to a little bit later is good. But this ain't
good for the Clippers. I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Okay, So one bucket of slop. Barely wanted to.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Give it that, So yeah, there's literally you can't pick
no buckets a slot. You got to give.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Clean something. That's right, okay, TK agree or disagree with
one bucket to slop on Clippers interested in Darny Rosen.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
So if I'm saying five buckets a slop, I think
it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I think you love it. You think it's possible.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, Lawrence Frank wants it.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Four buckets a slop. Oh, this is a Clippers kind
of move.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Get older, Get another guy from LA, get another guy
who shoots mid range.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Jumpers.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I think it's absolutely perfect for them. Okay, stupid move,
which is why the Clippers would do it. I think
this is actually pretty good for the Kings to turn
a slightly longer contract into Rosen into a guy in
John Collins who's gonna be expiring pretty much right away.
And he also kind of fills a position of need.
We've had some bonus go out with injury. They lost

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Valanciunis over the offseason, they signed Precious to Chew and
now he's playing major minutes for them, So getting a
big guy I think would.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Actually help the Kings a little bit.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
I don't think it's a smart move and I don't
really think it would change things for the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
But DeRozan at least plays.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
You know, you're saying he has the exact same shot
map as Kawhi Leonard one hundred percent true, But Kawhi
plays fifty per games and DeRozan plays one hundred percent
of the game.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
So at least he's got a Kawhi like player out
there all the time.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
They need somebody else who can score, because right now,
if Hardin is not doing something, nobody's doing anything. And
I mean an opportunity to add eight years to your roster.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Beautiful. Okay, all right, trade four bucket of the slot?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Task just one? All right, keep it going. We'll stick
with the Kings here. The Kings apparently will trade anyone
basically here. A new report from Jake Fisher in the
Steinline says that the Kings are willing to part ways
with any and all players other than Keegan Murray and
rookie Unique Clifford. Fisher added that, but it's unlikely Zach, Levine, Demarta, Rosen,

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and Sabonis bring back much to Sacramento in terms of
the trade. Sound like it could be John Collins, but
the idea from Fisher Kings open to trading every player
except Keigan Murray and Nie Clifford. How many buckets a slop?
TK will start with you.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
We'll trade everybody except for the people that you might want.
So give me three buckets a slop. I think the
Kings are going to make a move. Disappointing season, high
pay roll, and they have veterans in Levine, DeRozan and
maybe Sibonis who you can at least talk yourself into
a team that thinks they're a contender, who's had a

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disappointing season, you.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Know, like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
The Clippers, for instance, could be interested, right, Like, I
don't know. If Paul George goes down with another injury,
maybe a team like the Sixers can talk themselves in
to a DeRozan or something along those lines. Levine puts
up efficient numbers. It's unbelievable, Like he shoots great percentages,
he scores a t he gets to the rim, he

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shoots threes, and.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
It never adds up to anything. No, but every team
can convince theirself and then when you trade for him,
you're like, let's go. This guy's a highlight factory.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Well, it's funny you said that because Fisher wrote quote,
I've heard multiple seats. I've heard multiple teams say that
a Levine market could indeed take shape if he were
willing to bypass his forty eight point nine million player
option for the twenty six to twenty seven season and
replace it with a longer term deal at a lower
annual salary end.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
That's Fisher on Levine specifically tasks sort of speaking to
what trade has said.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
He is good, is good, but.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Maybe now at this point with that contract, you'd like
it for a longer term deal on much less money.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, it feels like Zach Levine's going to play for
several more years in this league. If you can get
it at a better rate, it's understandable. If he's going
to fill sort of fill in. Obviously he can score.
There's no doubt depending on the roster makeup, he could
play a role. So yeah, I think he's available. I
think everybody is available for the sacram mechanics. They need

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something for the fans to get a little excited. There
hasn't been any sort of effort. I know it's not
a pig town, it's more of a cow town. But
but Phil the troughs, five troughs, five buckets for that
trough scoop that trough do anything, do anything for this
fan base, whether it's Levigne or DeRozan. I think Demanta

(49:25):
Sabonis could be traded. There's a de Yeah. I think
you know what you're getting from your Vets. You know
who they are, you know their peak, and it's probably time.
I don't know if Scott Perry is willing to do it.
There just is no fight on this team, and so
it makes sense that they want to keep KEEGI Murray
Nie Clifford probably keep ke On Ellis super duper Chief.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Fisher says more than half the league is called about
ke On Ellis, understand and that he might have the
highest trade value of all these guys, you know, a
big part of that. Obviously makes a lot less money
than those other guys, but maybe and them like a
first round pick, because teams look at ke On els
as like a you know, a piece that sort of
puts you over the over the top top trying to

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say at the edge of the.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Top, Yeah, I wonder how much it's coming back for
because he makes two million dollars. You got to figure
out the money money wise.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Pick.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
That's why it's why it would have to be a pick,
because they're not going to get a player.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Back, yeah, that low of the contract, unless the Sacramento
Kings say, hey, you've got to take one of our vets.
You want Keon you gotta take one of our vets,
and then the money starts getting worked up so we
can go with the money. Dennis Shrewder was three for
forty five that he signed this year, right, he kind
of made it up for when he didn't sign that
Lakers contract way back when four for eighty four, he said, no,
I'm not taking it because I'm going to get more,

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and he didn't and.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Now he's he got paid, so now he's overpaid.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, this is his contract, man, this is this is
his last contract. Good for him, but that team stinky GM.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Scott Perry does not plan to pursue Trey Young, LaMelo
Ball or Ja Morant because quote, none of those lead
guards is known for the sort of defensive toughness that
the King's New Regime has made it clear once to
be a priority. So whether you believe that or not,
you can maybe take the Kings out of any running
for those potential three names.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
New regime I think is important because Scott Perry didn't
build this team, so he has zero connection to the players.
The only guys he brought in were Dennis Schrueer, so
you know, I mean, he's not off to a hot start.
But it means that you don't have the connection. You
don't feel like, oh I built a great team. Let's
see how it actually plays out. You can make some moves.
The biggest thing for the Kings is if they trade

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these veterans, they will get somehow a little bit even worse,
and then they would get a chance at a really
high draft pick, which would be what would really get
Kings fans excited, because I don't think shipping vets away
and getting picks back is exciting, but having good lottery
odds can be.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Exciting for sure in a loaded draft at that all right,
According to NBA insider Jake Fisher will stick with him,
the Utah Jazz quote would almost certainly want forward a
Sartoe Thompson in return for trading Lowry Market into the Pistons.
Quote sources say that the Jazz in fact consider trading
up to select Asar Thompson during the twenty twenty three

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NBA Draft. The Pistons, as you can imagine, do not
want to trade their Thompson. Twin end quote tasks buckets
a slop on the Jazz wanting Asar Thompson. If they're
doing any sort of move for Lowry Market.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
In the Utah Jazz absolutely want Asar Thompson.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Would they get them?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
No? I don't think so. I don't think so. No
disrespect to Lowry still young. It's going to be an
all star here in this new international versus USA format.
I think Larry Market is a great player. But the
Detroit Pistons cannot give up on this upswing of who
they are. There's no way, there's no way you give
up a sar Thompson. I just don't get it. Pair

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him with Cad and I get it from from the
Utah Jazz perspective. I mean, they haven't destroyed in the
draft the last few years. They picked five, nine and
ten to Ace Bailey, but they want somebody awesome immediately.
And this is of course you think about trading Larry marketing.
But if you're not getting Asar Thompson, I think it

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makes more sense to keep him around in this this
jesting that's overachieving, may not even be an incredible draft
season for them because they're They're just good in a way.
So I think Detroit would be smarter to go get
Michael Porter Junior instead. Instead of having to give up more,
you give up less for Michael Porter Junior. He's not

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paid for as long it's only a contract this year
and next. It lines up better with when your team
has to give extensions to Asar Thompson and to other guys,
So I think that makes a little bit more Such
he's a year younger than Larry Markinon. I think that
one makes more sense.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
So you're your low buckets a slot here on this one.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Well, it depends on how we're sloping. Do the Jazzar
Thompson realistic? I don't think the do it at all,
very unrealistic one hundred.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Percent agree with tasts one simple bucket of slop here.
I think the Pistons should let it marinate like that
slop may. They're having an awesome start to the year.
They have played the easiest schedule in the Eastern Conference
so far. They're such a young team, and eventually they're
gonna have to pay guys like they're gonna have to
pay Jayalen Dirt. He didn't sign an extension before this year,
and he's taking a step forward, so he's getting even

(54:25):
more and more expensive because once he hits restricted free
agency next year, a team will offer him a really
good deal, and if he decides to sign it, Pistons
can obviously match, but it will cost them a pretty penny.
So yeah, I don't think that making a move for
marketing makes a ton of sense for Detroit, and I
would rather have Michael Porter junior. Anyways, You're totally right.
I think he's an equivalent player to Lowry Marketing.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, I think if I'm Detroit, I don't want either
of those guys, just with House, well we started and
where our future is going and who were backed by
And I bring up those two guys like I get
you the marketing and Mike Port Junior. But like Carlisle
said it after last night's game, this team is like
being built similarly to like the bad Boy Pistons, where
it's physicality, it's toughness. There's sort of the mirror image,

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he said of those squads that he used to coach
right before they won that four championship of that version
of the team. Those two guys smarking in Michael Porter
Junior do not scream bad boys to me. So don't
worry about fattening up the piggies. If you're Detroit, go
vegan for this season, try it out and don't mess
with what's working right now. But yeah, the Jazz Wana

(55:28):
sar Thompson. So would I if I was the Utah Jazz.
That part makes sense, all right? Final one here in
the slop scale from our guy, Timmy Bontemps. Timmy good times,
he said during Monday's episode, of the Hoop Collective. Anthony
Davis's trade value isn't as high as many would expect
for a player of his caliber. Quote there's not a

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lot of teams that are lining up to take on
a thirty five year old AD making sixty three million
end quote Bontec was talking about ad sort of would
be in the final year of that deal making around
sixty three million. So Bontem's saying teams aren't lining up
here for ad TK. How many buckets to slop we
out with this one.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Well, when you put it that way, that he's thirty
three three years old, making sixty three million dollars and
never plays, I would have to agree that it's hard
to come up with an idea for who should go
after him. But I think if the MAVs were to
make him officially available, we got Mark Cuban fake and
the Funk saying there's no way we'd ever trade, right right, Yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Would, of course you would.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Mark stop lying to stop.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Lying to us, and other people are lying to Maybe
they're not lining up, but the packages won't be what
you're expecting from a guy who, when he plays, is
an All NBA caliber player can have an impact on
both sides of the ball, makes your defense better instantly,
and is still an effective offensive player. But you know,
if the MAVs continue to struggle, it just doesn't make

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sense for them to hang on to Anthony Davis. They
don't have a lot of future assets because Nico Harrison
traded them all away. They should fire this guy them
all the way to build a perfect team around Luka Doncic,
but it leaves the Coffers pretty bare. If they're trying
to build around Cooper flag which they should. Anthony Davis
should be available. Klay Thompson will be available as well,
But both of these guys are nearing the tail end

(57:15):
of their career in Clay's case and the tail end
of his prime in Anthony Davis's case. But these are
your best chances to get any sort of future assets back,
which is why the MAVs need to move these guys.
They're not going to have a winning season this year.
They need to keep their pick. They need to get
another decent lottery pick. They need to hit on that one.
To have building blocks around Cooper, around Derek Lively, they

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need a perimeter guy. It seems like to me they
would like if they get gifted the number one pick again,
they would take Darren Peterson. They would want a guard
out there, another playmaker. But it makes sense for the
MAVs to trade Anthony Davis. I'll give this one a
two point five slopper.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Okay, yeah, they have to. They have to trade Anthony Davis.
The teardown has to continue for their fan base, for
that organization. Yes, it feels good to trade Nico Harrison
for a lot of those fans, but it has to
continue with Anthony Davis. My question is what's the better
route to get the most for Anthony Davis. Is it
him coming back being healthy looking great, or is it

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this idea of Anthony Davis helping out a team that
could go for it. I think it's a bit risky
him coming back because he's got a calf injury, so
he hasn't got into basketball shape in the last couple months,
and he wasn't in that I shouldnt say last cople months,
the last month. He wasn't in that when he was playing,

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So there's that risk. Maybe there's another calf injury like
Lucas last year. So I think there is a bit
of a risk because I'd agree with Tim bontems The
teams may not be lining up, but you got to
take what you can get right now. If you're Mark Cuban,
who's now jumping on in with Michael Finley and Rashardi,

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you gotta get something for Anthony Davis. It truly makes
the most sense for this, but it's.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
It's tough because you got to have a lot of
money coming back to make any sort of deal work.
Here he makes fifty four million dollars right this year,
let alone the player option that we're talking about, or
Bontemps is talking about a couple of years from now,
which I'm gonna guess he's gonna pick up unless suddenly
he gets healthy again here and plays himself into one
big final, you know, Payday. But that's the tough part.

(59:23):
So yeah, yeah, like trying to just put together enough
salary to get back for any sort of deal. You know,
like like the Warriors could use a semi healthy version
of Anthony Davis, like no doubt they could honestly use
like a bonus sort of healthy in terms of gobbling
up rebound and stuff like that. But then you got
to get into the contracts of it all on how
you're making that work. Yeah, Kaminga is a piece, but

(59:44):
he's not making a ton of money, so there's still
a lot of money to fill in there in the
trade machine. So it's just difficult. But I'm with you guys,
like I do believe the move is for them to
get off of Anthony Davis. Whether he comes back and
plays and helps his trade value a little bit here
before the deadline, sure.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Yeah, he just has to look healthy. If he comes
back and just plays one game, that's enough, then he's that.
He's out there. He's out there. I thought this was
the year he was wearing the eye gogs. That was
the main reason he got injured last year was the
eye injuries, multiple eye injuries. His eyes are safe. The
problem is knees down. He's thirty two, as you said,

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he was going to be thirty three next year. This
team has to the team that acquires him has to
be super close, right. They have to think, whoa one piece?
We're one piece away and it could be Anthony Davis. Yeah, competing, Yeah,
because that's happened soon with Anthony Davis. You don't know
how many more years you have with Anthony Davis. No disrespect,
but he's he is getting older, and we're seeing again

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with the calf injuries that are happening around and Anthony
Davis getting it might be a three team deal where
that money goes around to get involved, a third team deal,
so Mapps don't have to take as much back in
terms of long term money. But Cubes got to think
about it. He's got to think about this as much
as I Cubes listening to Cubans interviews saying we got

(01:01:01):
to do something for the fans here, We've got to
do more for the fans.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Yeah, we get some wins. Yeah, it usually works well, yeah,
or not or not, and it's like, yeah, this is
a down year, and stick with us and we'll be
back next year if we luckily hit in the draft again.
And this is just Cooper Flag growing year, showing the potential.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Yeah, and it'll be as simple as that, and you
can finally wipe your hands clean of that whole Luka,
doncic slash Anthony Davis era if you trade Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
All right, that's the slop. Wasn't the juiciest. Let's be honest.
It's just a start. We're getting going. There'll be more
twenty days until the official start until December fifteenth slop season. Yeah,
you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
You gave me a stink guy when I said that
Michael Porter Junior was an equivalent player to Lowry marketing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Yeah, listen, you're right, good I good eye. I'm a
Lowry fan. Who do I want in a playoff round
playoff series.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
That's got a title or the guy that's never played
in the play.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Calling bi Lstie's got a freaking title too, Man, everybody gets.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Porter Junior played in the finals. He was good in the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Playoffs for the Nuggets. So did Jordan Poole. I mean,
there's lots of Larry's. I think he's underrated in terms
of how much he can help. It's a good equivalent.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
But who do you think is averaging Morris Is per
game this year?

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Michael Porter Junior never swinging the rock or Larry's Michael
Porter June Absolutely, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Yeah, because Will Hardy has got that ball moving to
Larry market He knows what Larry Markin's role is. What's
happening with the Brooklyn Nets is give him the ball
and watch him do things. Oh, he's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
What's happening. What's happening with the Jazz.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
They're winning games. He's scoring freaking fifteen. Yeah. What are
the Brooklyn nets three and fourteen? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Exactly, it's basically the same.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Come on, just the same guy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
That's why I'm saying they're equivalent players. Who averages more
rebounds the seven footer or Michael Porter Junior. Michael, Yeah,
that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I'm not touching either of these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I'm telling is the Western Conference Michael Porter Junior. Put
him on the nets or put him on the jazz.
He's gonna score twenty five a game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yeah. I believe in Lowry's bod, going and fighting and driving.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
The games playing in the past few years.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I believe in his boo.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I think he's going to drive. I just mean he's
going to drive Michael Port Junior where we know where
he's shooting from. We know where he's shooting from. Lowry
Marketing will at least put it on the floor us
that drive. I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Yeah, that's marketing. Michael Porter Junior is good. He's underrated.
I'm sorry he is. And he's played in the playoffs
a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Okay, he's played with nikolay Okich. Of course, Lowry market
who would play in the playoffs, so he played with
you know, that's a part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Yeah, I'm saying I've seen it in the playoffs with
Michael Porter Jr. Can I see it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I love this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I did not expect a Lowry marketing versus Michael Porter
Junior debate here on no dunt.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Low market You get a guy an opportunity, they're going
to score twenty five points per game. Remember Mikal Bridges,
he scored twenty five a game when he got to
touch the ball all the time. Marketing gets to touch
the ball all the time, and he gets twenty eight
a game.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
The Porter Junior gets the ball all the time, he
gets twenty five a gait.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Yeah, they're both good players. Yeah. Anyways, that's why I
said Detroit games.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
With eighty eight percent think that marketing is better.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I think yeah, I think. Yeah, Michael ports.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Not on podcast. That's the major, major thing that's our benefit. Yeah,
exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Well, I will say, listen, I said Detroit, curious Lowry
doesn't have the same ring curious Mark.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, curious Mike. The good thing about him is he's
trying to rein it in. He was asked to talk
less about things, and he is doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
He was basically told he stopped telling you about some
of these dumb ass places.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
That's a slop.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Slop will get juice here and the season goes on. Here,
let's go to Wilby.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Let will get juicier.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Bit literally. Line of the night Karl Anthony Towns, a
guy we've barely talked about this year. Honestly, great game
last day. Game high thirty seven points led the Knicks
over the crosstown rival Brooklyn Nets. Town shot fourteen to
twenty from the floor, three or four from deep, perfect
at the line, six to six, game high, twelve boards,

(01:05:18):
three dimes, steal, two blocks, bonus points, only committed one
turnover in thirty three minutes played. Yeah, we haven't talked
a lot. We've talked a lot about the Brooklyn excuse me,
the New York Knicks or the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
I just have it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
No, Yeah, and the Celtics. And you wrote about this
in the power rankings on substack. I saw today that
would make sense, Like we've talked about this team for
so long. Notatum out of the equation, just like we've
been talking about other teams, so they've sort of just
like and they've been decent, like John Brown unbelievable, Yeah,
like he really is. But the Knicks are like a
level below that. I haven't talked about them much because

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they were like, we know what they are, we know
they're good, and we'll see you come April and May.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Who says no Carl Anthony Towns for Anthony Davis.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Because they're like two guys who were actually pretty similar
on the salary scale.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
I think the Knicks say no, they did.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
I agree they're calling CIA.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Yeah, I think they say no.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
But a big part of that is just ad you
can't trust them, and why are you gonna trust them?

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Moving?

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Getting older to even play anymore is the problem?

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
That's well, boy, wait to go, cat cat Man do
he did it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
He did it? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Pick them tonight? Task There's only three games on NBA
Cup Action. These are big games.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Let's go to Los Angeles where the Lakers are hosting
the Clippers and they are six and a half point favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Ooh, so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Trey and I both believe in the Lakers covering seven
points or more. Well, skeets. You're taking the Clippers to
lose by six or less or obviously when why are
you taking the Clippers?

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Oh, this is the Clippers NBA Championship tonight. Cup, Man,
you gotta this. Whoever wins this is looking pretty good
to move to the knockout stage. So I'll say the
Clippers keep it close. James Harden's on a heater right now. Yeah,
maybe he puts on a SHOWOC fifty had a slow game.
Oh yeah, but look, I hate the Clippers, so this
is not great for me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
But why are you taking the Lakers? Trey?

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
I think they're a lot better. You're right, they are.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
There no question.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
They're three best players, would be by far the three
best players on the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
That was the main thing for me. I think they're
very good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
The concern to me is like, Okay, I'll take the
Clippers because I got a lot of points to play with,
right Like, could be obviously a Lakers four or five
point win, that's realistic. But then you add that cup
element in that means the Lakers are they're not going
to take their foot off the gas at the end
because differential matters. Though they will be in the driver's
seat picking up this victory. If they do, they'd go
to three and oh Clippers that follow two and one

(01:07:52):
in the Cup play. But come on, come on, old guys,
for the Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Come on for the Cup. This is the seventh game
of the Clippers road trip. This game is it considered
a road trip because it's in LA I always consider
the first game home after long road trip to be
a bit of a dud. It's happened to teams, and
so I think this is kind of like their first
game home.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Oh they're not playing on the same arena anymore. Yeah, yeah,
they don't even have that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Yeah, there's traffic.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Come on, come on, Clips, keep it close. I want
to end this month in style. I like this record
right now. Eleven and five, Trade, nine and seven test,
you know, and some w's here. The last a little
bit had the Raps once again. You may have gone
zero and three with the Raps cast after losing last night.
But we'll see what happens tonight. A couple Cup games

(01:08:43):
only three on, but don't you worry. We'll be here
tomorrow to talk about those games, and it'll be our
final show of the week. Because of Thanksgiving. Here in
the States. So we'll have some Thanksgiving NBA fun tomorrow.
Start thinking about the biggest NBA turkey this year, Start
thinking about which players cranberry sauce, which player's green beans,

(01:09:05):
Start thinking about what the hell that even means?

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Which play.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
So we'll have some fun on tomorrows around what's the
most underrated Thanksgiving dish?

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
We decided green beans.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I think it's a good picks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
You asked on substag. What were some answers?

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
I forget.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Any other options for you most underrated Thanksgiving dish? Besides
green beans.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
I'm sticking with stuffing. I know, dressing for some in America,
stuffing for some outside of America. I know that it's
key player to me. Yeah, but that's because you rate it.
That's because you rated highly. I think a lot of
people just don't. They're just not having enough. Yeah, I
think that's a part of it. Yeah. And they call
it dressing, which is a lot of time it's in

(01:09:51):
the turkey stuffed. What do they call it here more dressing?

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Yeah, depends.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
I go back and forth.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
It's in the bird, it's stuffing, if it's out it's dressed.
I mean, I love both exactly. People are a lot
of people are saying stuffing dressing is the most underrated.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
I thought it was perfectly rated.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
Yeah, I think it's on the mount rush.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
So do what it?

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
No sound interesting? Oh no, a cold potato? Maybe it's underrated,
it's not. I'm guy. Lawrence says, the green veggie side dishes,
you need that fiber to assist in comfortable exit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
He gets it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
A shrimp cocktail. What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Jared fucking creed olives?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
That's crazy as an underrated Thanksgiving dish, green olives, this
is stupid, stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
I like this one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Celebrion says, love me some Hawaiian rolls. If you want
to count rolls as a whole side.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
And this you don't think about the roll that's interesting. Yeah,
they're just there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Hawaiian rolls. That's a good roll.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
You don't have it enough either. That's only a thing,
not only, but doesn't appear in your life very often.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Right, you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Holiday is really when it comes around, and I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
You can just build a fattle plate, a real slop
trough of food. Just throw roll on the top, role,
just stack it on top, throw it on there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
I'm getting hungry can't wait. But anyway, we'll have a
fun drop podcast for you tomorrow, seeing as it will
be our last one live of the week until that.
No Clipper bros, you heard it here first.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Have a great time, turn up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us, and remember
you can't get over the shrimp. Shrimp is not a
side dish. This is not You don't have it on
your plate. You can have it as an appetizer, right,
but it also prevents the comfortable exit. Was that was
that the termfort Yeah, that's a weird one. I mean,
that's just for sure you're backing yourself up a little

(01:11:57):
bit more. I would sick.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
I would say, be careful what the shrips? This week
everybody bringson eight people

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