December 22, 2025 • 27 mins
After his grandmother’s death, a young man inherits her botanica—and the wrath of a Puerto Rican Cemí spirit that was never meant to be set free.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Greetings at b and Viniels, fellow seekers of the dark.
I'm Danny Threepe. Welcome to nocturnal tales from the shadows.
By the enchanted frames of this fire, we transcend time
and space to enter the darkest depths of the Latin
American imagination, legend and lore, passed down through the years
(00:31):
and retold with a twists. Tonight we take you into
the heart of Brooklyn, where old spirits are never as
far away as you think. A semi a spirit from
the old Dino world, older than the city, older than
(00:55):
the stories we tell ourselves, is waking up. And when
some the ancient stirs, it doesn't care if you're ready
in the shadows of gentrification and forgotten players who we
ask what happens when the past calls you back? Will
(01:19):
you answer.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
When or the on behalf of the Delgado family. I
welcome each of you, whether you traveled from uptown or.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
From Puerto Rico. I thank you as we gather here
today to.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Celebrate the life of Blanca, a pillar of the community.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We come with heavy hearts.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We come together in love and in support of one another.
Let us take a moment of silence to honor our
beloved Blanca, please.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Pay your respects.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
The service will begin shortly, I.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Louise, Yeah, no, I haven't been home in two years.
I know, I know. I've been studying abroad. You're a
suspensive to come home for the holidays.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Well, you're a willa. Blanca missed you so much.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
You're so grown up.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Now there is Look at our Ivy League guy.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He builds a building.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yet, primo, I don't. I don't build buildings. I'm an
urban plannet. That sounds very fancy.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Blanca will be so proud her coming from a small
village in Puerto Rico, wiped out by a hurricane, to
see her grandson receive a degree from an Ivy League university.
It's the American dream, and your parents won't be there here.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Hey, it's okay, it's okay. I have my deals. I
don't know what to do without Blanca.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
She was the soul of the community.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I'm so happy we were able to get a final
blessing from her. It's gonna be so different with the Botanica.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Go well, hold on, what's happening to the Botanica?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Louise, you didn't know someone said a developer wants it
for lots of money.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Pat, don't gossip.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It's a rumor, not gossip.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He's a well I just died. Well, it was great
to see you, guys. I'm I'm not gonna pay my
respects by Louise.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
It was so good to see you.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Excuse me, sorry, excuse me.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Oh no, well, I'm I'm sorry to come back sooner.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I have so much to tell you. I wish I
could see you. I am yukahoo got a fertility.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I will strike you down, Lord of the dead.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
The gods are not to be played with.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
Come with me.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
Okay, Well, put the same something altar licito?
Speaker 10 (04:44):
What's all this fruit and bread?
Speaker 9 (04:45):
Oh frase, Now you must give them something since you
took away the respect.
Speaker 11 (04:51):
But I have nothing to give.
Speaker 9 (04:53):
We all have something.
Speaker 11 (04:55):
Hmmm, well I wanted to cut my bay.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Care.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
He's a powerful offering.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Good choice me.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
You want your Mama and Pappy?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, I want.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
What you give is between you and the gods.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Use this here scissors. Okay, then.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Is this enough?
Speaker 9 (05:23):
It's more than enough. A part of you is the
most powerful offering you can make. Are you given this
Relian with the goodness.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Of your heart?
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (05:36):
Yes, Then place it on the altar.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I see perfectly.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Sit, Louise, you've been there a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I'm sorry the I like a last for a moment.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
It's okay, honey, this must be in love for you.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, I'm doing okay.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Come by for dinner tomorrow night, raise making Benilo. I
went us favorite.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, I really like that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
M Hello are you Lewis Delgado? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (06:16):
I wanted to give my condolences.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Your grandmother was a very sweet woman.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Thank you. How did you know?
Speaker 12 (06:23):
Well, we were just starting to do business together. I
wanted to chat with you about something real quick, if
you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Mind right now, service is about to start.
Speaker 12 (06:32):
I know, I'm sorry, but it's a bit urgent. Okay, Yeah, sure,
I'm Anthony Dinado again, so sorry for your loss.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I work with Borough Building Works.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, I know them. That's a big firm.
Speaker 12 (06:53):
Yeah, and we've been in talks with your grandmother for
a while about buying the building her floral stores.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And wait, she agreed to sell.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yes.
Speaker 12 (07:03):
And as you can see from this very unfortunate situation,
this is don't occur ball into our plans.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Why are you coming to me because she left the shop.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Under your name?
Speaker 13 (07:13):
What?
Speaker 12 (07:14):
Yeah, you're the owner of the Botanica congratuations.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Yeah, look at that Botany Gaulanka Nimpias, VELAs Gonsultas.
Speaker 14 (07:34):
I always told her I was way too far.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
That name was never changing, and this.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Place hasn't changed a bit. She's still not dusting.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
When was the last time you were here?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Woof ten years?
Speaker 10 (07:48):
Maybe I haven't been much, just dropped off food now
and then she stopped letting people in toward the end.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It just doesn't make sense. Why would she leave it
to me and not like you.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Maybe she saw something in you.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I don't know what to do with all this stuff.
I mean, is that a heart?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Oh my?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
What's all this?
Speaker 12 (08:12):
Male?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Final notices? Utilities rent what? No one knew?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You know how she was. She wouldn't let us help.
But if I was looking into it.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Now, well did she stop charging people?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Figures?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
What's this? Oh?
Speaker 7 (08:38):
This is her old spell book?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Look it's part legend now Maria r egg Limpia too,
white candles, feather, jose m chicken blood, black pascidian teeth.
Sammy she she used to talk to me about Sammy's
what's that there?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
There were toys I played with. It just says the
gods are not to be played with.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Damn subway is gonna take this whole place down one day?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, unless they tear it down first.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
It's your uncle. You gotta take this.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Going so far?
Speaker 13 (09:32):
Oh help somebody there?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Oh my god, of course you can't throw out rotting food.
How long have least been on the old? Look at
these figurines?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
I remember you, yokahoo got of fertility?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And why lord of you? You do not look friendly.
Speaker 11 (10:20):
Nope, Hey, Louise, dinner time, let's go dra Luisa coma sama, you've.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Done yourself and soga.
Speaker 15 (10:38):
Louise Squeno is the You're officially the owner of the Botanica.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Really just like that?
Speaker 15 (10:49):
Yeah, you just have to sign this and the shop
is yours.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Thanks for taking here of this.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
What about the company trying to buy it though?
Speaker 15 (10:58):
Listen, ownership needs to move to you before we can
move forward with that.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
If you want to move forward with selling.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Well that's that's probably the best thing to do, right.
Speaker 15 (11:08):
Well, maybe she saw something in you, you.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
Know, why do you guys keep saying that She never
stopped talking about how proud she was.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Said you were unnatural, right, unnatural?
Speaker 15 (11:19):
What we don't ask those kinds of questions in this
familia luis. I mean not unless you're ready for the answers. Listen,
the company who wants to buy the place is hoping
to build the whole foods. It's a good chunk of change,
not enough to cover everything she owed fedal close?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
How much that?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
A lot? Somehow? You're a weella avoided paying.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
Utilities for years, right, right, but the city's finally caught up.
She always said they wouldn't dare shut her off, that
the spirit kept the lights on.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Right.
Speaker 15 (11:55):
The thing is, if we open the shop for a bit,
even listen, just a couple of months, why make enough
to square things before the deal goes through?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
So you're off for the summer? Right?
Speaker 10 (12:05):
Yeah, technically people remember the shop, they'll come back.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
But I'm not a neither was she until she was okay,
I don't think about it.
Speaker 16 (12:32):
Whoa god this place is?
Speaker 13 (12:33):
To hear it out?
Speaker 16 (12:51):
What?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
How did how did the rhyme.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Pole get back on here? Oh my god, this gotta go.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I swear I loved the place.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Okay, that's so, my god?
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I can Hey, the storm is getting crazy outside.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Do y'all have like tarot cards?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Like, we've been seeing all these tiktoks and we want
to start doing readings for our friends.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I think we could go viral.
Speaker 16 (13:51):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
You What is that?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Just some old food over here? Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
These are kind of intense terra ports.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
You know what's a Ternainos are the indigenous people of
Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
These cards have different Thino gouts.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
One okay, good bond sets.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
The hard is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Do you have one with like cute animals or something.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
No, my god, let's get out of here. This place
is giving really bad vibes by rude?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
What's going on with this story?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
God?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
What I'm locked in?
Speaker 6 (14:54):
When I am, I can see you right now, I would.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
See you give.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
You can't believe you?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
What if I tell you listen?
Speaker 9 (15:07):
Don't don't play with the same as me.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
I was just checking in my hair.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
I believe it has kept the gods respected and nourished me.
You cannot take what has been given without giving something
in return.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
M and a single thing?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Rush, oh.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Chi, one of the what come with?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But that's really you? How did we get here? What
are we on this mountain?
Speaker 8 (16:13):
Round?
Speaker 9 (16:13):
Our past are present?
Speaker 16 (16:16):
Your futures?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Who are those people champing our ancestors.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What are they doing with that? Most you know this us?
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Oh Jesus Christy, you killed it.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
They do not forget that, Uila.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Okay, what the hell happened?
Speaker 16 (17:18):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Ship?
Speaker 14 (17:19):
The ball.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Outs?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
God damn it.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
I'm going crazy that that that mountain side that wasn't real? You,
Aila is not talking to you from the dead a second.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
You this disfiguring. You're on the altar with you go
in Guaya.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Looking there.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
There has to be something about you in our letter.
Let me see, okay, okay, uh hm, let me see
what kind of semi you are here? Yokahoo?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Agriculture wayah, god of the underworld and the yellow rain?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
W what sex there?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You are?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Chaos and destruction hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's what the villagers were chanting.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
In my.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
When you don't do.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
This place, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Hey Luis, Hey Anthony.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Good to see you, Great to see you.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
How you been good? Yeah? Great, I hear that.
Speaker 12 (18:49):
I hear that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Well, please have a seat. Like damn, this rain is
really coming down.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
They're saying it's going to be a hurricane.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
New York doesn't get hurricanes. Sandy was a fluke.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It could be the storm of the century.
Speaker 12 (19:01):
Yeah, anyway, what would you like to talk to me
about whole foods?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
It'll raise property values?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Right, sure, more foot traffic jobs. I'm just saying the
number you're offering seems.
Speaker 12 (19:13):
Low, right, but we already made the deal with your grandmother.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
It doesn't seem like you did.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I like you. What are you asking for?
Speaker 6 (19:23):
I'm asking for cash upfront, and you could have it immediately.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I know it's the last lot on the block you need.
I'm not making any promises.
Speaker 12 (19:32):
I'll have to talk to the developer, but we may
be able to come to an agreement.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I'd like to get this done quickly, if it's possible.
Speaker 12 (19:38):
Oh, I'll be in touch, don't you worry.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Thank you for your time, Anthony. I'll start backing the boot. Donego,
I got your number, all right? Thank you?
Speaker 16 (19:56):
Hey kid, what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
You can't leave your trust here.
Speaker 7 (19:59):
It's private property.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
This isn't trash. What what is this?
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Oh m hmm god?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Why did this kid leave this trash out front? Banana
leaves in a bloody egg? What does this mean?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
A bloody egg can be used as an offering to
appease a hungry god.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Let the gods hungry.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
This can't be real.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
That is very real.
Speaker 14 (20:54):
Real Willa, Okay, Willa, I'll try it.
Speaker 16 (21:06):
Okay, uh.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Qualm sex.
Speaker 14 (21:11):
I give you this offering freely and with the goodness
of my heart. Take it, release this place.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Well what why why did you throw the egg?
Speaker 7 (21:32):
I followed all the instructions. Not for a supposantic bloodline.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
All right, alright here you want blood?
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Think what? Please just stop Louise? Luisitola me?
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Not like that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You don't bake.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
The storm, you guide it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
One says is Fury.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Yes, but she is memoried to She remembers the ones
who show respect, the ones who feed the family.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
How do I stop this, Aula?
Speaker 9 (22:42):
This isn't about stopping her. It's about remembering who she
is and who you are. You are not just her grandson.
You are the altar.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Now I know what to do, like like when I
was young. Right, use a users that I used to use.
Get the hair right, say it with me? So wait
to see what you know the words?
Speaker 13 (23:10):
Right plane alasslard in a land adrast.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
We are I'm so proud, will it? Don't com you now?
Protect people from.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
The start.
Speaker 13 (23:45):
Seem Hey, how are you Anthony Louise.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Great to see you.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
A number of times you've shown up at the firm.
Speaker 12 (24:09):
We may have to hire you as a lawyer. Please
sit out, Thank you. I have great news. The buyers
are ready to close. They're even bumping up the offer
by quite a bit.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Anthony, tell them the Woldanica is a historical landmark, now
community preservation initiative.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
They'll never break around.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Our gods are still here and they feed our spirits
something the whole foods can never do.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
W And so our traveler finds himself not in a
foreign land, but in the heart of his birthright, a
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shop filled with secrets, a legacy, soap and spirits and sacrifice.
The gods, it seems, do not forget. And when they
are offered blood, hair hard they remember. Be careful what
you inherit, your listener, Some gifts are not meant to
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be unwrapped until next time. Keep your offerings pure and
the altar.
Speaker 16 (25:38):
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Greetings at b and Viniels, fellow seekers of the dark.
I'm Danny Threepe. Welcome to nocturnal tales from the shadows.
By the enchanted frames of this fire, we transcend time
and space to enter the darkest depths of the Latin
American imagination, legend and lore, passed down through the years
(00:31):
and retold with a twists. Tonight we take you into
the heart of Brooklyn, where old spirits are never as
far away as you think. A semi a spirit from
the old Dino world, older than the city, older than
(00:55):
the stories we tell ourselves, is waking up. And when
some the ancient stirs, it doesn't care if you're ready
in the shadows of gentrification and forgotten players who we
ask what happens when the past calls you back? Will
(01:19):
you answer.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
When or the on behalf of the Delgado family. I
welcome each of you, whether you traveled from uptown or.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
From Puerto Rico. I thank you as we gather here
today to.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Celebrate the life of Blanca, a pillar of the community.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We come with heavy hearts.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We come together in love and in support of one another.
Let us take a moment of silence to honor our
beloved Blanca, please.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Pay your respects.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
The service will begin shortly, I.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Louise, Yeah, no, I haven't been home in two years.
I know, I know. I've been studying abroad. You're a
suspensive to come home for the holidays.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Well, you're a willa. Blanca missed you so much.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
You're so grown up.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Now there is Look at our Ivy League guy.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He builds a building.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yet, primo, I don't. I don't build buildings. I'm an
urban plannet. That sounds very fancy.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Blanca will be so proud her coming from a small
village in Puerto Rico, wiped out by a hurricane, to
see her grandson receive a degree from an Ivy League university.
It's the American dream, and your parents won't be there here.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Hey, it's okay, it's okay. I have my deals. I
don't know what to do without Blanca.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
She was the soul of the community.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I'm so happy we were able to get a final
blessing from her. It's gonna be so different with the Botanica.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Go well, hold on, what's happening to the Botanica?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Louise, you didn't know someone said a developer wants it
for lots of money.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Pat, don't gossip.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It's a rumor, not gossip.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
He's a well I just died. Well, it was great
to see you, guys. I'm I'm not gonna pay my
respects by Louise.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
It was so good to see you.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Excuse me, sorry, excuse me.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Oh no, well, I'm I'm sorry to come back sooner.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I have so much to tell you. I wish I
could see you. I am yukahoo got a fertility.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I will strike you down, Lord of the dead.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
The gods are not to be played with.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
Come with me.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
Okay, Well, put the same something altar licito?
Speaker 10 (04:44):
What's all this fruit and bread?
Speaker 9 (04:45):
Oh frase, Now you must give them something since you
took away the respect.
Speaker 11 (04:51):
But I have nothing to give.
Speaker 9 (04:53):
We all have something.
Speaker 11 (04:55):
Hmmm, well I wanted to cut my bay.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Care.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
He's a powerful offering.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Good choice me.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
You want your Mama and Pappy?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
No, I want.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
What you give is between you and the gods.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Use this here scissors. Okay, then.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Is this enough?
Speaker 9 (05:23):
It's more than enough. A part of you is the
most powerful offering you can make. Are you given this
Relian with the goodness.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Of your heart?
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (05:36):
Yes, Then place it on the altar.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I see perfectly.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Sit, Louise, you've been there a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I'm sorry the I like a last for a moment.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
It's okay, honey, this must be in love for you.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, I'm doing okay.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Come by for dinner tomorrow night, raise making Benilo. I
went us favorite.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, I really like that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
M Hello are you Lewis Delgado? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (06:16):
I wanted to give my condolences.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Your grandmother was a very sweet woman.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Thank you. How did you know?
Speaker 12 (06:23):
Well, we were just starting to do business together. I
wanted to chat with you about something real quick, if
you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Mind right now, service is about to start.
Speaker 12 (06:32):
I know, I'm sorry, but it's a bit urgent. Okay, Yeah, sure,
I'm Anthony Dinado again, so sorry for your loss.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I work with Borough Building Works.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, I know them. That's a big firm.
Speaker 12 (06:53):
Yeah, and we've been in talks with your grandmother for
a while about buying the building her floral stores.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And wait, she agreed to sell.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yes.
Speaker 12 (07:03):
And as you can see from this very unfortunate situation,
this is don't occur ball into our plans.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Why are you coming to me because she left the shop.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Under your name?
Speaker 13 (07:13):
What?
Speaker 12 (07:14):
Yeah, you're the owner of the Botanica congratuations.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Yeah, look at that Botany Gaulanka Nimpias, VELAs Gonsultas.
Speaker 14 (07:34):
I always told her I was way too far.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
That name was never changing, and this.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Place hasn't changed a bit. She's still not dusting.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
When was the last time you were here?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Woof ten years?
Speaker 10 (07:48):
Maybe I haven't been much, just dropped off food now
and then she stopped letting people in toward the end.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
It just doesn't make sense. Why would she leave it
to me and not like you.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Maybe she saw something in you.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I don't know what to do with all this stuff.
I mean, is that a heart?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Oh my?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
What's all this?
Speaker 12 (08:12):
Male?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Final notices? Utilities rent what? No one knew?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You know how she was. She wouldn't let us help.
But if I was looking into it.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Now, well did she stop charging people?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Figures?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
What's this? Oh?
Speaker 7 (08:38):
This is her old spell book?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Look it's part legend now Maria r egg Limpia too,
white candles, feather, jose m chicken blood, black pascidian teeth.
Sammy she she used to talk to me about Sammy's
what's that there?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
There were toys I played with. It just says the
gods are not to be played with.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Damn subway is gonna take this whole place down one day?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, unless they tear it down first.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
It's your uncle. You gotta take this.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Going so far?
Speaker 13 (09:32):
Oh help somebody there?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Oh my god, of course you can't throw out rotting food.
How long have least been on the old? Look at
these figurines?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
I remember you, yokahoo got of fertility?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And why lord of you? You do not look friendly.
Speaker 11 (10:20):
Nope, Hey, Louise, dinner time, let's go dra Luisa coma sama, you've.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Done yourself and soga.
Speaker 15 (10:38):
Louise Squeno is the You're officially the owner of the Botanica.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Really just like that?
Speaker 15 (10:49):
Yeah, you just have to sign this and the shop
is yours.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Thanks for taking here of this.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
What about the company trying to buy it though?
Speaker 15 (10:58):
Listen, ownership needs to move to you before we can
move forward with that.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
If you want to move forward with selling.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Well that's that's probably the best thing to do, right.
Speaker 15 (11:08):
Well, maybe she saw something in you, you.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
Know, why do you guys keep saying that She never
stopped talking about how proud she was.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Said you were unnatural, right, unnatural?
Speaker 15 (11:19):
What we don't ask those kinds of questions in this
familia luis. I mean not unless you're ready for the answers. Listen,
the company who wants to buy the place is hoping
to build the whole foods. It's a good chunk of change,
not enough to cover everything she owed fedal close?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
How much that?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Are we talking about?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
A lot? Somehow? You're a weella avoided paying.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
Utilities for years, right, right, but the city's finally caught up.
She always said they wouldn't dare shut her off, that
the spirit kept the lights on.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Right.
Speaker 15 (11:55):
The thing is, if we open the shop for a bit,
even listen, just a couple of months, why make enough
to square things before the deal goes through?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
So you're off for the summer? Right?
Speaker 10 (12:05):
Yeah, technically people remember the shop, they'll come back.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
But I'm not a neither was she until she was okay,
I don't think about it.
Speaker 16 (12:32):
Whoa god this place is?
Speaker 13 (12:33):
To hear it out?
Speaker 16 (12:51):
What?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
How did how did the rhyme.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Pole get back on here? Oh my god, this gotta go.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I swear I loved the place.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Okay, that's so, my god?
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I can Hey, the storm is getting crazy outside.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Do y'all have like tarot cards?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:45):
Like, we've been seeing all these tiktoks and we want
to start doing readings for our friends.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I think we could go viral.
Speaker 16 (13:51):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
You What is that?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Just some old food over here? Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
These are kind of intense terra ports.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
You know what's a Ternainos are the indigenous people of
Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
These cards have different Thino gouts.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
One okay, good bond sets.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
The hard is terrifying.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Do you have one with like cute animals or something.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
No, my god, let's get out of here. This place
is giving really bad vibes by rude?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
What's going on with this story?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
God?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
What I'm locked in?
Speaker 6 (14:54):
When I am, I can see you right now, I would.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
See you give.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
You can't believe you?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
What if I tell you listen?
Speaker 9 (15:07):
Don't don't play with the same as me.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
I was just checking in my hair.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
I believe it has kept the gods respected and nourished me.
You cannot take what has been given without giving something
in return.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
M and a single thing?
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Rush, oh.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Chi, one of the what come with?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But that's really you? How did we get here? What
are we on this mountain?
Speaker 8 (16:13):
Round?
Speaker 9 (16:13):
Our past are present?
Speaker 16 (16:16):
Your futures?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Who are those people champing our ancestors.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What are they doing with that? Most you know this us?
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Oh Jesus Christy, you killed it.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
They do not forget that, Uila.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Okay, what the hell happened?
Speaker 16 (17:18):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Ship?
Speaker 14 (17:19):
The ball.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Outs?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
God damn it.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
I'm going crazy that that that mountain side that wasn't real? You,
Aila is not talking to you from the dead a second.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
You this disfiguring. You're on the altar with you go
in Guaya.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Looking there.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
There has to be something about you in our letter.
Let me see, okay, okay, uh hm, let me see
what kind of semi you are here? Yokahoo?
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Agriculture wayah, god of the underworld and the yellow rain?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
W what sex there?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You are?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Chaos and destruction hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
That's what the villagers were chanting.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
In my.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
When you don't do.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
This place, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Hey Luis, Hey Anthony.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Good to see you, Great to see you.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
How you been good? Yeah? Great, I hear that.
Speaker 12 (18:49):
I hear that.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Well, please have a seat. Like damn, this rain is
really coming down.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
They're saying it's going to be a hurricane.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
New York doesn't get hurricanes. Sandy was a fluke.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It could be the storm of the century.
Speaker 12 (19:01):
Yeah, anyway, what would you like to talk to me
about whole foods?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
It'll raise property values?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Right, sure, more foot traffic jobs. I'm just saying the
number you're offering seems.
Speaker 12 (19:13):
Low, right, but we already made the deal with your grandmother.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
It doesn't seem like you did.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I like you. What are you asking for?
Speaker 6 (19:23):
I'm asking for cash upfront, and you could have it immediately.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I know it's the last lot on the block you need.
I'm not making any promises.
Speaker 12 (19:32):
I'll have to talk to the developer, but we may
be able to come to an agreement.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I'd like to get this done quickly, if it's possible.
Speaker 12 (19:38):
Oh, I'll be in touch, don't you worry.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Thank you for your time, Anthony. I'll start backing the boot. Donego,
I got your number, all right? Thank you?
Speaker 16 (19:56):
Hey kid, what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
You can't leave your trust here.
Speaker 7 (19:59):
It's private property.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
This isn't trash. What what is this?
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Oh m hmm god?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Why did this kid leave this trash out front? Banana
leaves in a bloody egg? What does this mean?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
A bloody egg can be used as an offering to
appease a hungry god.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
Let the gods hungry.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
This can't be real.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
That is very real.
Speaker 14 (20:54):
Real Willa, Okay, Willa, I'll try it.
Speaker 16 (21:06):
Okay, uh.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Qualm sex.
Speaker 14 (21:11):
I give you this offering freely and with the goodness
of my heart. Take it, release this place.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Well what why why did you throw the egg?
Speaker 7 (21:32):
I followed all the instructions. Not for a supposantic bloodline.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
All right, alright here you want blood?
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Think what? Please just stop Louise? Luisitola me?
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Not like that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You don't bake.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
The storm, you guide it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
One says is Fury.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Yes, but she is memoried to She remembers the ones
who show respect, the ones who feed the family.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
How do I stop this, Aula?
Speaker 9 (22:42):
This isn't about stopping her. It's about remembering who she
is and who you are. You are not just her grandson.
You are the altar.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Now I know what to do, like like when I
was young. Right, use a users that I used to use.
Get the hair right, say it with me? So wait
to see what you know the words?
Speaker 13 (23:10):
Right plane alasslard in a land adrast.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
We are I'm so proud, will it? Don't com you now?
Protect people from.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
The start.
Speaker 13 (23:45):
Seem Hey, how are you Anthony Louise.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Great to see you.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
A number of times you've shown up at the firm.
Speaker 12 (24:09):
We may have to hire you as a lawyer. Please
sit out, Thank you. I have great news. The buyers
are ready to close. They're even bumping up the offer
by quite a bit.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Anthony, tell them the Woldanica is a historical landmark, now
community preservation initiative.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
They'll never break around.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Our gods are still here and they feed our spirits
something the whole foods can never do.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
W And so our traveler finds himself not in a
foreign land, but in the heart of his birthright, a
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shop filled with secrets, a legacy, soap and spirits and sacrifice.
The gods, it seems, do not forget. And when they
are offered blood, hair hard they remember. Be careful what
you inherit, your listener, Some gifts are not meant to
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be unwrapped until next time. Keep your offerings pure and
the altar.
Speaker 16 (25:38):
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This episode was written by Plaine Morris. Performances in this
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