June 3, 2025 • 29 mins
In this episode, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz discuss the disgusting attack against Jewish protesters in Boulder, Colorado, and the subsequent government response. They express concerns about rising leftist violence and its implications for all Americans. The conversation shifts to the contentious issue of trans athletes competing in women's sports, highlighting the challenges faced by female athletes. They also critique Michelle Obama's recent comments on women's roles and discuss the broader alienation of voters by the Democratic Party. Normally is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, guys, we are back on normal like the show
with normalish takes for when the news gets weird. It's
weird this week already. How's it going, Carol, I'm maryam sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Him, Mary Catherine, I'm Carol Markowitz. Yeah, you know, coming
out of a hard weekend. An attack in Boulder, Colorado
on Jews who were protesting for the release of the hostages.
In Gaza, a man was filmed setting Jewish.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
People on fire.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
They marched there every week, and this march actually happens
in lots of places. I have a friend who participates
in this march every week in North Carolina, so this
certainly does seem premeditated. This guy was ready to go
with some gardening equipment that he had fashioned as a
Molotov cocktail. I'll also say I haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere,
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but these are almost certainly once again piece necks. These
are people who I bet if you talk to them,
they all on a twesday solution. They just want the
hostages released. I would bet the farm that they're all
Peacenicks and peace nick adjacent and that once again they're
the ones being targeted for harm because they were you know,
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the kind of people that wouldn't be carrying weapons. They
were the kind of people that wouldn't be able to
fight back, and so that's what happened. In Colorado.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Eight people were injured, mostly with burns Onlookers and others
at the site were, you know, grabbing water from the
municipal fountain to douse them with until medical attention got there.
The suspect is forty five year old Mohammed Savarei Solimon,
and he was yelling free Palestine and other very obvious
indications of motive while he was doing this crime. Although
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shortly afterwards, despite this, the Boulder police were like, let's
not get ahead of ourselves, un native right, And CNN's
broadcast was like, isn't it a little much for Cash
Betel and the FBI to jump to this conclusion?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And I would like to say, no, it's not at
all too much. It's not because he's on video, right,
he's on video.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'll also say that the response from the Trump administration
and law enforcement has been exactly what I, as a
Jew living in America, would like to see. The federal
government has charged Mohammed Salomon with a hate crime, with
more charges to potentially follow They're not waiting to see
what the Boulder police.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Is going to charge him with.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
They took action on their own. FBI Deputy Director Dan
Bengino tweeted, we are investigating this incident as an act
of terror and targeted violence. All of the necessary assets
will be dedicated to this investigation. Trump truthed in capital
letters that the attacks will not be tolerated. And so
what I've said for years and years, because attacks on
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Jews have been going on for I mean more than
a decade, fairly regularly in places like Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And what I would always say.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Ignored by the press. You have you have done a
good job of highlighting them. They're ignored by the press
unless they can blame it on a right leaning person.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's absolutely right. So what I would say about it
is what I would always write about attacks like this
or in any antismatic incidents, is it's always going to happen.
I guess that's how I sort of see it. But
it's the reaction from authorities and from the people that
matters to me. Like a lot of times in France,
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for example, they'll have anti Semitic attacks and they'll be
very shoulder shruggy. The reaction from the Trump administration from
the top down has been exactly what I wanted to see.
This is what I voted for.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, and like as in the past, if you see
like Charlottesville or Tree of Life, like these things. As
long as they the culprit is correct, Yeah, they can
make a big deal out of it. They can make
this a nationally known incident. And the Trump administration responding
in this way goes a long way to making this
one a memorable incident, which is what needs to happen.
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Our friend Agie Hamilton on Twitter noted that and I
had almost already forgotten about this one, that Governor Shapiro's
men was attacked with the intent to hurt and kill
his family just in the last two months, and now
we've got the two young people tragically murdered on the
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streets of Washington, DC, And now we've got this.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
By the way, Bill Mlusion.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I think, was first to report that this is an
illegal immigrant. He's an Egyptian who was let in on
a tourist visa which expired. He later applied for asylum.
It was granted at some point, but that has also expired,
and he's just hanging out molotov cocktailing Jews in the streets.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And so what I would also say is that I
am concerned about leftist violence, not just aimed at Jews.
I think that Americans who are not Jewish, Americans who
don't care about Israel one way or the other, should
take very seriously what's happening here, because this, to me
seems like the beginning. It seems like this could easily spread.
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We see the Luigi Mangioni becoming a hero after killing
a healthcare executive in the street. If you get to
kill whoever you don't like on the streets of America,
believe me, this will not end with Jews. And I
think people need to understand that well.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And I haven't forgotten the summer of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It was just all out whatever you were up for
because you were ticked off. You could destroy businesses, you
could hurt people, people died, you could attack people in
those autonomous zones. That's right, assaults and sexual assaults happen regularly,
and all of that was sort of deemed the cost
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of doing business because America needed to pay for it.
Since and that is what far too many people on
the left belief and they are willing to put up
with and even celebrate in some cases, as.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
We see with Luigi Mangioni.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It's very creepy. It's some of the more disturbing stuff
that I see. Sulomon, by the way, was interviewed and
said that this is Bill millusion of Fox reporting again.
So he wants to kill all Zionist people, So you
can imagine how many people he could put in that category.
He allegedly told investigators that he waited to carry out
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the attack until his daughter graduated high school, and then
he specifically targeted the Zionist group in Boulder after learning
about them from an online search. It was premeditated. They
found a black container with fourteen more Molotov cocktails near
the spot where he was arrested. Inside his vehicle, investigators
found paperwork with the words Israel, Palestine and USAID.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Because this is to.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Your point, Carol, it's the Omni cause, right, He's ticked
off at Elon Musk about USAID, so he's got to
attack some peaceful citizens of his city a town square
because of USAID AID cuts.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Sure, yeah, right, it is the Omni cause, and it
could be anything that they want it to be at
any time. So this needs to be put down. I
will say bluntly, I'm amazed that he got to arrest.
I think in certain places I hope that I'm correct
in saying this, but I feel like in Florida that
he does not make it to the police car.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And that's, you know, the way I think it should be.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I think you should be armed, you should protect yourself
and others, and if somebody's throwing molotov cocktails and setting
elderly people on fire, I should hope that somebody is
carrying and able to defend those people.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, this makes me want to see more people armed, absolutely,
and to have plenty of those good guys who are
armed at every exaggeration that might be subject to this
kind of attack.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
We'll be right back on normally, what are the Democrats
up to? What are they focused on? Do they are
they changing their perspective on trans athletes?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, you'll remember, Carol that we covered Gavin Newsom saying yeah,
this really isn't fair because he's doing his big switch
to attract the normies, right and so on podcasts. He's
happy to say this seems bad, but when it comes
to the actual policies of the state of California, he
has not put his foot down. The federal government, via
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executive order from Trump has said, hey, you guys have
to follow Title nine or else you will lose your funds.
And Title nine means respecting women's sports and women's spaces,
not just the competition but the locker rooms. And California's like, yeah,
but we have like our super crazy laws and we
have to do those. And so right now you have
a big fight that sort of culminated in the state
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championship in Clovis, California, with this track and field athlete
ab Hernandez, who is a boy who identifies as a girl,
and the state High School Association tried to make sort
of last minute changes to attempt to comply with the
Trump administration or to make everyone happy, and they said
basically like we're not going to take anything from any
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of the women athletes, Like this guy is going to
get to compete, he's going to end up first place
in a couple of categories or something or whatever, but
then we're just going to add the women who would
otherwise have gotten those and they'll also get it. So
it's like they're twisting themselves in knots to satisfy one athlete,
Aby Hernandez, in this particular state, in these events. And
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it won't surprise you, Carol, to know that Aby Hernandez,
it turns out, was a was quite successful this week.
Hernandez took first place in the girl's triple jump, tied
for first place in the girl's high jump, and got
second place in the girl's long jump. Yes, that's right,
reports National Review. The California state girls champion in the
high and triple jump is a boy. It's quite obvious
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when you look at this competitor that he has a
lot of advantages. In fact, you know, finished inches and
inches ahead.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Close.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
No, his mom is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Doing me, doing the the all the rounds with the
media and then saying, no, one's respecting my child's privacy.
The mom of one of the other would be winners says,
I don't have a problem with trans people. I have
a problem with boys competing with girls, and I don't
think it's fair. It is uncomfortable knowing that there's a
man on the field that she's competing against, and knowing
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that the playing field is not equal. It does I
think affect their confidence, and I think it affects their
demeanor out on the field.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
How could he not how it affect them?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And it's very obvious. He's tall, he's broad, he has
narrow hips, he has very obvious muscles. He is taller
than most of the girls out there.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
In his triple jump, he finished almost ten inches further
right than saw that, Like, come.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
On, yeah, it's so galling. This this whole idea of
are they better?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Is there something intrinsically more athletic about men than women?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
What could it be?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
You know?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Yes, there is?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Actually, this is the new line from the left is
there haven't been enough studies for us to really know.
And this to me really echoes the COVID insanity. Or
it was like knowledge that was previously had and universally understood,
like that babies and children need to see faces to
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learn how to communicate with other humans. That knowledge was
discarded and we pretended that we had never had it,
right and then and then people like the American Academy
of Pediatrics are like, we don't have any evidence that
it affects speech.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
If you come, no, we don't know. We don't have
enough study for that.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Right, So could needs be on devices all the time?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Who could say? Who could say?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
So?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Now, the universally acknowledged truth that we have all understood
for millennia that men are on average, taller, stronger, better
at sports than women, we have to discard that, and
we have to claim we don't have enough studies to
truly understand nuance here, which is what they were getting
into on CNN where Scott Jennings is sparring with a
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with his colleague. This is a little over a minute,
but I think the back and forth is worth hearing here.
Science behind this hasn't been studied enough or talked about
enough for us to make a real full opinion.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I do agree girls sports are for girls.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
You said this hasn't been studied enough to know that. Look,
we've got millions of years of study. Men and women
are different, and that's why it's unfair to put boys
in girls sports. We don't need it any more biological
studies fundamentally. But do you.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
See, genuinely curious, any accommodations that are reasonable? You have
a sixteen year old who want to participate in sports.
In your mind, is there any way that that can happen?
That is fair, of course, have.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
The people participate with their own biological sex, boys and
boys sports, girls and girls sports. It's worked for a
very long time in this country.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
But it's not.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's where we are.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
So what do you do the country?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
But it's not bad anymore? So what do you do
with the twenty percent? Do we ignore them?
Speaker 8 (13:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Pretty much, it's twenty issue everybody. We have to upend.
We don't have to. The reason why.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Was because I don't think it's fair that you're scaring
people at home thinking that boys are trying to compete
in girls for by the droves and that this is
going to take over.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
And you were scaring people at all. It's just not happening.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
You know what this reminds me of. Actually, this reminds
me of the Joe Biden cover up. It's like we
all could see what's going on on, but the White
House hasn't told anybody, So how could we know.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
How could we know? How could we make right?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So unless they get more studies on this and unless
the twenty percent. Now we're catering to the twenty percent
of the country. Because I recall Obama when after he'd win,
he'd be real happy about his majority and not care
at all what the minority was saying about his policies.
Didn't he say, now, yeah, now the twenty percent really
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matters well.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And also you notice that every anchor and Brianna Keeler
was interviewing Julie Hammill, who's done a lot of the
representation of some of these young women and work on
the legal side of this. She was interviewing her, and
both anchors default to only the rights of this one person, right,
like those don't have to be balanced at all. Apparently,
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according to them, it doesn't matter that this person is
standing atop the Oh. Yeah, and by the way, he
is welcome to compete in the men's category. Know what
would happen. He wouldn't win. He wouldn't win in the
men's category. So don't think it has quite the rush
that it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Has to compete with women. By the way, because.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Also, sorry, you don't see this in the reverse.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You do not see.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Biological girls dying to get into biological boy sports. You
don't see you know, trans men, right, trans men trying
to get into men's sports.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
You just don't see it. You know why, because they
wouldn't win, right, because you end up being the worst player,
like you're sitting on the pine.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
By the way, I just want to note that female
athletes also lost to men in the end of season
sort of championship part of the season in Maine, Oregon,
and Washington and then California.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Of course, is the one we are noting.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
As Julie Hammill points out, you have to follow Title
nine like this isn't even a trump thing. Title nine
has been the law for a long time. They twisted
it during the Biden administration to cover men and women,
which doesn't protect women at all. In Oregon, two girls
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who had to compete against a boy in the high
jump refused to step on the podium. That was their protest.
Good they were punished by a man. A male official
comes over and tells them to leave, and they were
sent to the sidelines because even their silent and appropriate
and polite protest cannot be cannot be countenanced in the
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face of the rights of these young men who just
desperately must beat them.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah must.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Also we have the story of Algerian boxer who was
obvious again to anybody who had eyes, that it was
this boxer was a man. Was competing in the female category.
There was this ongoing lie that he was intersex, which
is really another galling thing about this. It's like, we
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can see, we know what we're looking at, Like, don't
lie to us. And so there was a leak a
few days ago where the Algerian boxer in mon Khalif
this thing leaked that says that a blood test confirmed
that he is in fact male.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So this was a blood test administered by the International
Boxing Association in twenty twenty three that had been rumored
as this person was entering the Olympics, and everyone was saying,
I think this guy's been flagged before and the Olympics
because we've reached a point in our sort of international
leftism that we must not determine whether a dude is
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a dude before he gets into a ring and beats
a woman. Yeah, a medal is That's how far the
Libs have gone, right, is that in order to be
a good liberal you have to cheer and make fun
of anyone who doesn't cheer the beating of a woman
inside a boxing ring by a dude for a metal
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like this is crazy, right, And that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Is the thing I think that so many of them
know that it's crazy I know we have again these
eighty twenty numbers, but they're not loud enough about it.
Where are the like the feminist organizations are just I
know some feminists have taken some real risks. Jk Rowling
has been at the forefront of this. I get that
there are very outspoken feminists from the left talking about this,
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but in general they're all still so quiet, and they're
not standing up for women, and they're not standing up
for these girls, and they're allowing girls to be beat
up by a man on a stage.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
How is that okay?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And it goes beyond that, right. It is the shaming
of the women who do stand up. Is it is
making what's always made me most angry as a as
a former somewhat mediocre female athlete myself, is that is
that these women who are beaten by post pubescent males,
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they must stand up and cheer and talk to the
press and tell the press how amazing, howwering it is
to be beaten by a dude in their sport, or
else they will be shunned and punished. And on this front,
I think Jennifer Say Martina and Abergelomo jk Rowling have
given a bunch of female athletes courage to stand up
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and say no. They wear the xxxy shirts, they stand
on the podium, or they skip the podium entirely. They
have forfeited their sports at times at great cost to themselves.
So I think that's where the turn is happening with
the normy athletes who are fed up with this, and
elite liberalism has to get its mind wrapped around this
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if it expects to ever perform anywhere or be listened
to anyone.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I see normy moms, enormy people in the XXXY shirts.
I don't think they have a lot of political opinions,
but I think keeping boys out of girls' sports is
just one of those really gets to people, especially if
they have daughters themselves who play in sports at any level.
I think they understand that, you know, you can't have
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boys in this, and if you have, you know you
and I both have daughters and sons. You see the
physical difference between them. It just it's so obvious. It's
if you have eyes, you can tell they are different.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I mean, I so I played on boys' soccer teams
for a little while because my district didn't have enough
money to have a women's soccer team, and it was like,
right at that age where it becomes probably dangerous, It
was like twelve to fourteen, and I've managed, but like,
in no world was that the proper situation for me?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
That was?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And if it had been one on one, I was
part of a team. If it had been one on
one competition with anyone else on the field, like it's
done right.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
That's the other thing that the time of when they
play together really matters. My nine year old son had
some unbelievable flag football girls on various teams last season,
Like unreal, they're they're they're taller, they're faster, they you know,
girls hit puberty earlier faster, so at that age they
could still be even better. But once you hit puberty,
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all bets are off and it's impossible to have fairness
between boys and girls playing sports together.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
All those outstanding flag football gals are going to be
just the kind of gals to grow up and get
their butts beaten by young men pretending to be.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Going Oh man, I hope we solve this for them
before that happens. But yes, that's exactly where they're headed.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I think we're on the way to solving it.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think there is a as an awakening and I
just there was an update today from the DOJ. Its
demands to California districts is that if you don't comply
with Title nine and protect girls sports and spaces from
male invasion, not all will you lose federal funds, but
you are violating the equal Protection clause of the fourteenth
mimics of the US Constitution. The DOJ demands districts certify compliance,
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and if you lie, you are defrauding the government and
liable for False Claims Act violations. Things are going to
get a little tricky for Gavin Newsom as he tries
to walk this type rope and claim he's just a
totally reasonable dude.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
You got to the rubber's going to hit the road.
You've got to do something.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yep, there's a primary. He's going to have to get
through a primary.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So we'll see, good luck with that.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
We're going to take a short break and come right
back with normally. Well, you know, we talk a lot
about how Democrats are alienating men. It turns out they
don't want to stop there. Why stop there? Michelle Obama
had some choice things to say about women and what
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we are good for and what about us is important.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So many men have no idea about what women go through. Right.
We haven't been researched, we haven't been considered, and it
still affects the way. A lot of male lawmakers, a
lot of male politicians, a lot of male religious leaders
think about the issue of choice as if it's just
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about the fetus, the baby, the But women's reproductive health
is about our life. It's about this whole complicated reproductive
system that does the least of what it does is
produce life. It's a very important thing that it does.
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But you only produce life if the machine that's producing it.
If you want to, you know, whittle us down to
a machine, if the machine is functioning in a healthy,
streamlined kind of way. But there's no discussion or apparent connection.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
What's the most important thing that a machine does? I
just need to know if the least important thing is
it produces life, because that seems kind of a big
one to me.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
You know what else there is?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I will say this, If the least important thing that
my uterus is doing is creating life, then I wish
it would quit bugging me every month with the other
stuff that it does seriously not enough. We don't need
to do that at all if it's not important. No,
I think, look, Michelle Obama, I have a theory of
Michelle Obama. By the way that podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Because the show is called normally, I know it's not
the theory on Michelle Obama.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
So no, I have a theory that she is doing
this podcast to get rid of the idea from anybody's
brain that she can ever run for office.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It worked, it really worked.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I was like, this woman.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Cannot actually run for office.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Look, there are times when she is incredible. She gave
a great speech at the DNC.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You look at her and you're like, this, she has
one hundred percent name i'd people seem to love her.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You know, there's tons to tons going for her.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Then she's like, I'm gonna do a podcast and I'm
gonna say all the things.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That will make it impossible for me to run for office.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So I think that's her plan, because I don't think
she ever wanted to run for office, right, So she's
just like, now I'm gonna make myself toxic.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
But this is such a wild thing to say. She's correct.
Men often don't understand much of what she goes on.
This is a fair critic reed.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, but the idea that you're that your reproductive system's
least important function is creating life, when that's like the grandest,
most amazing, most miraculous, most differentiating thing about being a
woman that you can do, is so dismissive and crazy to.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Me, right, And I just it's her and also Hillary Clinton.
I just I don't get why it's okay for first
ladies to kind of lecture us in this way, Like
I long for the bar Bush the Laura Bushes, who
just like they do what they do, and they don't
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they don't tell us how to be. I wrote about
Hillary Clinton recently for Fox News. Nothing she likes more
than popping her head up to tell us how women
are and behaving the way she would like, and how
we've been a massive disappointment to her, to Hillary Clinton, particularly,
so you know, she had she had it again recently.
But she's always talking about how women vote, the way
that their husbands make them vote and the way that
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they want them to and they cater to the men
in their lives and all that. Why why just go
enjoy your retirement. You don't need the money you don't
need the fame, go sail off into the sunset. I
assure you that was what I would be doing if
I were them.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
This is why we're normal, though they're not normal. She
That was part of Michelle Obama's take as well, the
Republican women suggesting, of course, that they voted for Donald
Trump because.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Of their husbands.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Quote, there are a lot of men who have big
chairs at their tables. There are a lot of women
who vote the way their man is going to vote.
Happened in this election.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Meanwhile, my husband's like, who are we voting for? Right,
not not for president, but like, you know, any of
the local stuff. He's just like, I don't know where.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
What am I doing? What do we do now?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I would say it often probably goes the other direction.
And it's just such a again, dismissive, condescending.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
It doesn't acknowledge unnecessary that what.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Democrats do and what liberals do is that they don't
go looking for the constituency to convince them. They go
looking for a constituency to lecture and change them.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So it just doesn't work. It's not going to work.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And actually we have a new clip of Harry Hinton,
the smart I said that real Southern Harry Hinton, Harry
and the smart numbers guy over at CNN who was
going through a few more numbers on Trump that I
think are going to be problematic for Democrats as we
move forward.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
After all of the waves, Capball, when after the last
few months, the first five to the Donald Trump presidency,
right of the first four months to the Donald Trump presidency,
that you expect that Democrats are have this massive lead
on the economy.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
It ain't so.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It ain't so the party that is closest to your
economic views. And November of twenty twenty three, it was
the Republicans by eleven points. Now it's still within that range,
still within that margin of our plus eight point advantage
for the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
How is that possible? Democrats? How is that possible after
all the recession, Because after the stock market's been doing
all of this, after all the towers that Americans are against,
and Republicans still hold an eight point lead on the economy,
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I like the way he says all. It reminds me
of my Brooklyn childhood.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Not a mystery figure it out either.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, but most Americans are not in the stock market.
The price of eggs is way down. It's little things
that have gotten better. It could all go to you know,
crapper and at any moment, we really don't know. The
economy is really in flux, and obviously we're hoping things
stay positive.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But it's no great mystery.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Why Americans trust the Trump administration or Republicans in general
over Democrats. Democrats are always involved in some other issue
and dismissing the needs of Americans and mocking them for
their caring about egg prices and things like that. So
no great mystery to me what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I don't think they're going to figure out anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
No, they still haven't gotten to boys and girls' sports.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I don't think they're going to be tackling the economy
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with normalish takes for when the news gets weird. It's
weird this week already. How's it going, Carol, I'm maryam sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Him, Mary Catherine, I'm Carol Markowitz. Yeah, you know, coming
out of a hard weekend. An attack in Boulder, Colorado
on Jews who were protesting for the release of the hostages.
In Gaza, a man was filmed setting Jewish.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
People on fire.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
They marched there every week, and this march actually happens
in lots of places. I have a friend who participates
in this march every week in North Carolina, so this
certainly does seem premeditated. This guy was ready to go
with some gardening equipment that he had fashioned as a
Molotov cocktail. I'll also say I haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere,
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but these are almost certainly once again piece necks. These
are people who I bet if you talk to them,
they all on a twesday solution. They just want the
hostages released. I would bet the farm that they're all
Peacenicks and peace nick adjacent and that once again they're
the ones being targeted for harm because they were you know,
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the kind of people that wouldn't be carrying weapons. They
were the kind of people that wouldn't be able to
fight back, and so that's what happened. In Colorado.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Eight people were injured, mostly with burns Onlookers and others
at the site were, you know, grabbing water from the
municipal fountain to douse them with until medical attention got there.
The suspect is forty five year old Mohammed Savarei Solimon,
and he was yelling free Palestine and other very obvious
indications of motive while he was doing this crime. Although
(01:48):
shortly afterwards, despite this, the Boulder police were like, let's
not get ahead of ourselves, un native right, And CNN's
broadcast was like, isn't it a little much for Cash
Betel and the FBI to jump to this conclusion?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And I would like to say, no, it's not at
all too much. It's not because he's on video, right,
he's on video.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'll also say that the response from the Trump administration
and law enforcement has been exactly what I, as a
Jew living in America, would like to see. The federal
government has charged Mohammed Salomon with a hate crime, with
more charges to potentially follow They're not waiting to see
what the Boulder police.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Is going to charge him with.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
They took action on their own. FBI Deputy Director Dan
Bengino tweeted, we are investigating this incident as an act
of terror and targeted violence. All of the necessary assets
will be dedicated to this investigation. Trump truthed in capital
letters that the attacks will not be tolerated. And so
what I've said for years and years, because attacks on
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Jews have been going on for I mean more than
a decade, fairly regularly in places like Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And what I would always say.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Ignored by the press. You have you have done a
good job of highlighting them. They're ignored by the press
unless they can blame it on a right leaning person.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's absolutely right. So what I would say about it
is what I would always write about attacks like this
or in any antismatic incidents, is it's always going to happen.
I guess that's how I sort of see it. But
it's the reaction from authorities and from the people that
matters to me. Like a lot of times in France,
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for example, they'll have anti Semitic attacks and they'll be
very shoulder shruggy. The reaction from the Trump administration from
the top down has been exactly what I wanted to see.
This is what I voted for.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, and like as in the past, if you see
like Charlottesville or Tree of Life, like these things. As
long as they the culprit is correct, Yeah, they can
make a big deal out of it. They can make
this a nationally known incident. And the Trump administration responding
in this way goes a long way to making this
one a memorable incident, which is what needs to happen.
(04:03):
Our friend Agie Hamilton on Twitter noted that and I
had almost already forgotten about this one, that Governor Shapiro's
men was attacked with the intent to hurt and kill
his family just in the last two months, and now
we've got the two young people tragically murdered on the
(04:26):
streets of Washington, DC, And now we've got this.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
By the way, Bill Mlusion.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I think, was first to report that this is an
illegal immigrant. He's an Egyptian who was let in on
a tourist visa which expired. He later applied for asylum.
It was granted at some point, but that has also expired,
and he's just hanging out molotov cocktailing Jews in the streets.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And so what I would also say is that I
am concerned about leftist violence, not just aimed at Jews.
I think that Americans who are not Jewish, Americans who
don't care about Israel one way or the other, should
take very seriously what's happening here, because this, to me
seems like the beginning. It seems like this could easily spread.
(05:12):
We see the Luigi Mangioni becoming a hero after killing
a healthcare executive in the street. If you get to
kill whoever you don't like on the streets of America,
believe me, this will not end with Jews. And I
think people need to understand that well.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And I haven't forgotten the summer of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It was just all out whatever you were up for
because you were ticked off. You could destroy businesses, you
could hurt people, people died, you could attack people in
those autonomous zones. That's right, assaults and sexual assaults happen regularly,
and all of that was sort of deemed the cost
(05:52):
of doing business because America needed to pay for it.
Since and that is what far too many people on
the left belief and they are willing to put up
with and even celebrate in some cases, as.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
We see with Luigi Mangioni.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It's very creepy. It's some of the more disturbing stuff
that I see. Sulomon, by the way, was interviewed and
said that this is Bill millusion of Fox reporting again.
So he wants to kill all Zionist people, So you
can imagine how many people he could put in that category.
He allegedly told investigators that he waited to carry out
(06:26):
the attack until his daughter graduated high school, and then
he specifically targeted the Zionist group in Boulder after learning
about them from an online search. It was premeditated. They
found a black container with fourteen more Molotov cocktails near
the spot where he was arrested. Inside his vehicle, investigators
found paperwork with the words Israel, Palestine and USAID.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Because this is to.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Your point, Carol, it's the Omni cause, right, He's ticked
off at Elon Musk about USAID, so he's got to
attack some peaceful citizens of his city a town square
because of USAID AID cuts.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Sure, yeah, right, it is the Omni cause, and it
could be anything that they want it to be at
any time. So this needs to be put down. I
will say bluntly, I'm amazed that he got to arrest.
I think in certain places I hope that I'm correct
in saying this, but I feel like in Florida that
he does not make it to the police car.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And that's, you know, the way I think it should be.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I think you should be armed, you should protect yourself
and others, and if somebody's throwing molotov cocktails and setting
elderly people on fire, I should hope that somebody is
carrying and able to defend those people.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, this makes me want to see more people armed, absolutely,
and to have plenty of those good guys who are
armed at every exaggeration that might be subject to this
kind of attack.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
We'll be right back on normally, what are the Democrats
up to? What are they focused on? Do they are
they changing their perspective on trans athletes?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, you'll remember, Carol that we covered Gavin Newsom saying yeah,
this really isn't fair because he's doing his big switch
to attract the normies, right and so on podcasts. He's
happy to say this seems bad, but when it comes
to the actual policies of the state of California, he
has not put his foot down. The federal government, via
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executive order from Trump has said, hey, you guys have
to follow Title nine or else you will lose your funds.
And Title nine means respecting women's sports and women's spaces,
not just the competition but the locker rooms. And California's like, yeah,
but we have like our super crazy laws and we
have to do those. And so right now you have
a big fight that sort of culminated in the state
(08:51):
championship in Clovis, California, with this track and field athlete
ab Hernandez, who is a boy who identifies as a girl,
and the state High School Association tried to make sort
of last minute changes to attempt to comply with the
Trump administration or to make everyone happy, and they said
basically like we're not going to take anything from any
(09:14):
of the women athletes, Like this guy is going to
get to compete, he's going to end up first place
in a couple of categories or something or whatever, but
then we're just going to add the women who would
otherwise have gotten those and they'll also get it. So
it's like they're twisting themselves in knots to satisfy one athlete,
Aby Hernandez, in this particular state, in these events. And
(09:40):
it won't surprise you, Carol, to know that Aby Hernandez,
it turns out, was a was quite successful this week.
Hernandez took first place in the girl's triple jump, tied
for first place in the girl's high jump, and got
second place in the girl's long jump. Yes, that's right,
reports National Review. The California state girls champion in the
high and triple jump is a boy. It's quite obvious
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when you look at this competitor that he has a
lot of advantages. In fact, you know, finished inches and
inches ahead.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Close.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
No, his mom is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Doing me, doing the the all the rounds with the
media and then saying, no, one's respecting my child's privacy.
The mom of one of the other would be winners says,
I don't have a problem with trans people. I have
a problem with boys competing with girls, and I don't
think it's fair. It is uncomfortable knowing that there's a
man on the field that she's competing against, and knowing
(10:40):
that the playing field is not equal. It does I
think affect their confidence, and I think it affects their
demeanor out on the field.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
How could he not how it affect them?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And it's very obvious. He's tall, he's broad, he has
narrow hips, he has very obvious muscles. He is taller
than most of the girls out there.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
In his triple jump, he finished almost ten inches further
right than saw that, Like, come.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
On, yeah, it's so galling. This this whole idea of
are they better?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Is there something intrinsically more athletic about men than women?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
What could it be?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
You know?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Yes, there is?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Actually, this is the new line from the left is
there haven't been enough studies for us to really know.
And this to me really echoes the COVID insanity. Or
it was like knowledge that was previously had and universally understood,
like that babies and children need to see faces to
(11:44):
learn how to communicate with other humans. That knowledge was
discarded and we pretended that we had never had it,
right and then and then people like the American Academy
of Pediatrics are like, we don't have any evidence that
it affects speech.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
If you come, no, we don't know. We don't have
enough study for that.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Right, So could needs be on devices all the time?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Who could say? Who could say?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
So?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Now, the universally acknowledged truth that we have all understood
for millennia that men are on average, taller, stronger, better
at sports than women, we have to discard that, and
we have to claim we don't have enough studies to
truly understand nuance here, which is what they were getting
into on CNN where Scott Jennings is sparring with a
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with his colleague. This is a little over a minute,
but I think the back and forth is worth hearing here.
Science behind this hasn't been studied enough or talked about
enough for us to make a real full opinion.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I do agree girls sports are for girls.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
You said this hasn't been studied enough to know that. Look,
we've got millions of years of study. Men and women
are different, and that's why it's unfair to put boys
in girls sports. We don't need it any more biological
studies fundamentally. But do you.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
See, genuinely curious, any accommodations that are reasonable? You have
a sixteen year old who want to participate in sports.
In your mind, is there any way that that can happen?
That is fair, of course, have.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
The people participate with their own biological sex, boys and
boys sports, girls and girls sports. It's worked for a
very long time in this country.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
But it's not.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's where we are.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
So what do you do the country?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
But it's not bad anymore? So what do you do
with the twenty percent? Do we ignore them?
Speaker 8 (13:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Pretty much, it's twenty issue everybody. We have to upend.
We don't have to. The reason why.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Was because I don't think it's fair that you're scaring
people at home thinking that boys are trying to compete
in girls for by the droves and that this is
going to take over.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
And you were scaring people at all. It's just not happening.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
You know what this reminds me of. Actually, this reminds
me of the Joe Biden cover up. It's like we
all could see what's going on on, but the White
House hasn't told anybody, So how could we know.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
How could we know? How could we make right?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So unless they get more studies on this and unless
the twenty percent. Now we're catering to the twenty percent
of the country. Because I recall Obama when after he'd win,
he'd be real happy about his majority and not care
at all what the minority was saying about his policies.
Didn't he say, now, yeah, now the twenty percent really
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matters well.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And also you notice that every anchor and Brianna Keeler
was interviewing Julie Hammill, who's done a lot of the
representation of some of these young women and work on
the legal side of this. She was interviewing her, and
both anchors default to only the rights of this one person, right,
like those don't have to be balanced at all. Apparently,
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according to them, it doesn't matter that this person is
standing atop the Oh. Yeah, and by the way, he
is welcome to compete in the men's category. Know what
would happen. He wouldn't win. He wouldn't win in the
men's category. So don't think it has quite the rush
that it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Has to compete with women. By the way, because.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Also, sorry, you don't see this in the reverse.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You do not see.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Biological girls dying to get into biological boy sports. You
don't see you know, trans men, right, trans men trying
to get into men's sports.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
You just don't see it. You know why, because they
wouldn't win, right, because you end up being the worst player,
like you're sitting on the pine.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
By the way, I just want to note that female
athletes also lost to men in the end of season
sort of championship part of the season in Maine, Oregon,
and Washington and then California.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Of course, is the one we are noting.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
As Julie Hammill points out, you have to follow Title
nine like this isn't even a trump thing. Title nine
has been the law for a long time. They twisted
it during the Biden administration to cover men and women,
which doesn't protect women at all. In Oregon, two girls
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who had to compete against a boy in the high
jump refused to step on the podium. That was their protest.
Good they were punished by a man. A male official
comes over and tells them to leave, and they were
sent to the sidelines because even their silent and appropriate
and polite protest cannot be cannot be countenanced in the
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face of the rights of these young men who just
desperately must beat them.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah must.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Also we have the story of Algerian boxer who was
obvious again to anybody who had eyes, that it was
this boxer was a man. Was competing in the female category.
There was this ongoing lie that he was intersex, which
is really another galling thing about this. It's like, we
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can see, we know what we're looking at, Like, don't
lie to us. And so there was a leak a
few days ago where the Algerian boxer in mon Khalif
this thing leaked that says that a blood test confirmed
that he is in fact male.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So this was a blood test administered by the International
Boxing Association in twenty twenty three that had been rumored
as this person was entering the Olympics, and everyone was saying,
I think this guy's been flagged before and the Olympics
because we've reached a point in our sort of international
leftism that we must not determine whether a dude is
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a dude before he gets into a ring and beats
a woman. Yeah, a medal is That's how far the
Libs have gone, right, is that in order to be
a good liberal you have to cheer and make fun
of anyone who doesn't cheer the beating of a woman
inside a boxing ring by a dude for a metal
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like this is crazy, right, And that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Is the thing I think that so many of them
know that it's crazy I know we have again these
eighty twenty numbers, but they're not loud enough about it.
Where are the like the feminist organizations are just I
know some feminists have taken some real risks. Jk Rowling
has been at the forefront of this. I get that
there are very outspoken feminists from the left talking about this,
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but in general they're all still so quiet, and they're
not standing up for women, and they're not standing up
for these girls, and they're allowing girls to be beat
up by a man on a stage.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
How is that okay?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And it goes beyond that, right. It is the shaming
of the women who do stand up. Is it is
making what's always made me most angry as a as
a former somewhat mediocre female athlete myself, is that is
that these women who are beaten by post pubescent males,
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they must stand up and cheer and talk to the
press and tell the press how amazing, howwering it is
to be beaten by a dude in their sport, or
else they will be shunned and punished. And on this front,
I think Jennifer Say Martina and Abergelomo jk Rowling have
given a bunch of female athletes courage to stand up
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and say no. They wear the xxxy shirts, they stand
on the podium, or they skip the podium entirely. They
have forfeited their sports at times at great cost to themselves.
So I think that's where the turn is happening with
the normy athletes who are fed up with this, and
elite liberalism has to get its mind wrapped around this
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if it expects to ever perform anywhere or be listened
to anyone.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I see normy moms, enormy people in the XXXY shirts.
I don't think they have a lot of political opinions,
but I think keeping boys out of girls' sports is
just one of those really gets to people, especially if
they have daughters themselves who play in sports at any level.
I think they understand that, you know, you can't have
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boys in this, and if you have, you know you
and I both have daughters and sons. You see the
physical difference between them. It just it's so obvious. It's
if you have eyes, you can tell they are different.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I mean, I so I played on boys' soccer teams
for a little while because my district didn't have enough
money to have a women's soccer team, and it was like,
right at that age where it becomes probably dangerous, It
was like twelve to fourteen, and I've managed, but like,
in no world was that the proper situation for me?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
That was?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And if it had been one on one, I was
part of a team. If it had been one on
one competition with anyone else on the field, like it's
done right.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
That's the other thing that the time of when they
play together really matters. My nine year old son had
some unbelievable flag football girls on various teams last season,
Like unreal, they're they're they're taller, they're faster, they you know,
girls hit puberty earlier faster, so at that age they
could still be even better. But once you hit puberty,
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all bets are off and it's impossible to have fairness
between boys and girls playing sports together.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
All those outstanding flag football gals are going to be
just the kind of gals to grow up and get
their butts beaten by young men pretending to be.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Going Oh man, I hope we solve this for them
before that happens. But yes, that's exactly where they're headed.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I think we're on the way to solving it.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think there is a as an awakening and I
just there was an update today from the DOJ. Its
demands to California districts is that if you don't comply
with Title nine and protect girls sports and spaces from
male invasion, not all will you lose federal funds, but
you are violating the equal Protection clause of the fourteenth
mimics of the US Constitution. The DOJ demands districts certify compliance,
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and if you lie, you are defrauding the government and
liable for False Claims Act violations. Things are going to
get a little tricky for Gavin Newsom as he tries
to walk this type rope and claim he's just a
totally reasonable dude.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
You got to the rubber's going to hit the road.
You've got to do something.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yep, there's a primary. He's going to have to get
through a primary.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So we'll see, good luck with that.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
We're going to take a short break and come right
back with normally. Well, you know, we talk a lot
about how Democrats are alienating men. It turns out they
don't want to stop there. Why stop there? Michelle Obama
had some choice things to say about women and what
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we are good for and what about us is important.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So many men have no idea about what women go through. Right.
We haven't been researched, we haven't been considered, and it
still affects the way. A lot of male lawmakers, a
lot of male politicians, a lot of male religious leaders
think about the issue of choice as if it's just
(23:19):
about the fetus, the baby, the But women's reproductive health
is about our life. It's about this whole complicated reproductive
system that does the least of what it does is
produce life. It's a very important thing that it does.
(23:40):
But you only produce life if the machine that's producing it.
If you want to, you know, whittle us down to
a machine, if the machine is functioning in a healthy,
streamlined kind of way. But there's no discussion or apparent connection.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
What's the most important thing that a machine does? I
just need to know if the least important thing is
it produces life, because that seems kind of a big
one to me.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
You know what else there is?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I will say this, If the least important thing that
my uterus is doing is creating life, then I wish
it would quit bugging me every month with the other
stuff that it does seriously not enough. We don't need
to do that at all if it's not important. No,
I think, look, Michelle Obama, I have a theory of
Michelle Obama. By the way that podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Because the show is called normally, I know it's not
the theory on Michelle Obama.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
So no, I have a theory that she is doing
this podcast to get rid of the idea from anybody's
brain that she can ever run for office.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It worked, it really worked.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I was like, this woman.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Cannot actually run for office.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Look, there are times when she is incredible. She gave
a great speech at the DNC.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You look at her and you're like, this, she has
one hundred percent name i'd people seem to love her.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You know, there's tons to tons going for her.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Then she's like, I'm gonna do a podcast and I'm
gonna say all the things.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That will make it impossible for me to run for office.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So I think that's her plan, because I don't think
she ever wanted to run for office, right, So she's
just like, now I'm gonna make myself toxic.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
But this is such a wild thing to say. She's correct.
Men often don't understand much of what she goes on.
This is a fair critic reed.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, but the idea that you're that your reproductive system's
least important function is creating life, when that's like the grandest,
most amazing, most miraculous, most differentiating thing about being a
woman that you can do, is so dismissive and crazy to.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Me, right, And I just it's her and also Hillary Clinton.
I just I don't get why it's okay for first
ladies to kind of lecture us in this way, Like
I long for the bar Bush the Laura Bushes, who
just like they do what they do, and they don't
(26:05):
they don't tell us how to be. I wrote about
Hillary Clinton recently for Fox News. Nothing she likes more
than popping her head up to tell us how women
are and behaving the way she would like, and how
we've been a massive disappointment to her, to Hillary Clinton, particularly,
so you know, she had she had it again recently.
But she's always talking about how women vote, the way
that their husbands make them vote and the way that
(26:26):
they want them to and they cater to the men
in their lives and all that. Why why just go
enjoy your retirement. You don't need the money you don't
need the fame, go sail off into the sunset. I
assure you that was what I would be doing if
I were them.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
This is why we're normal, though they're not normal. She
That was part of Michelle Obama's take as well, the
Republican women suggesting, of course, that they voted for Donald
Trump because.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Of their husbands.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Quote, there are a lot of men who have big
chairs at their tables. There are a lot of women
who vote the way their man is going to vote.
Happened in this election.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Meanwhile, my husband's like, who are we voting for? Right,
not not for president, but like, you know, any of
the local stuff. He's just like, I don't know where.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
What am I doing? What do we do now?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I would say it often probably goes the other direction.
And it's just such a again, dismissive, condescending.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
It doesn't acknowledge unnecessary that what.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Democrats do and what liberals do is that they don't
go looking for the constituency to convince them. They go
looking for a constituency to lecture and change them.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So it just doesn't work. It's not going to work.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And actually we have a new clip of Harry Hinton,
the smart I said that real Southern Harry Hinton, Harry
and the smart numbers guy over at CNN who was
going through a few more numbers on Trump that I
think are going to be problematic for Democrats as we
move forward.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
After all of the waves, Capball, when after the last
few months, the first five to the Donald Trump presidency,
right of the first four months to the Donald Trump presidency,
that you expect that Democrats are have this massive lead
on the economy.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
It ain't so.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It ain't so the party that is closest to your
economic views. And November of twenty twenty three, it was
the Republicans by eleven points. Now it's still within that range,
still within that margin of our plus eight point advantage
for the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
How is that possible? Democrats? How is that possible after
all the recession, Because after the stock market's been doing
all of this, after all the towers that Americans are against,
and Republicans still hold an eight point lead on the economy,
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I like the way he says all. It reminds me
of my Brooklyn childhood.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Not a mystery figure it out either.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, but most Americans are not in the stock market.
The price of eggs is way down. It's little things
that have gotten better. It could all go to you know,
crapper and at any moment, we really don't know. The
economy is really in flux, and obviously we're hoping things
stay positive.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But it's no great mystery.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Why Americans trust the Trump administration or Republicans in general
over Democrats. Democrats are always involved in some other issue
and dismissing the needs of Americans and mocking them for
their caring about egg prices and things like that. So
no great mystery to me what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I don't think they're going to figure out anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
No, they still haven't gotten to boys and girls' sports.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I don't think they're going to be tackling the economy
anytime too soon. Thanks for joining us on normally. Normally
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get your podcasts. Get in touch with us at normallybepod
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