June 18, 2025 • 30 mins
In this episode, Mary Katharine and Karol discuss the latest events involving Israel and Iran, President Trump's foreign policy, and the Democratic approach to immigration. They also touch on 'Summertime' Parenting. Normally is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut on Tuesdays & Thursdays.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey guys, you're back.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Oh normally the show was normal. It takes me and
it just gets weird. I'm Mary Catherine.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hume and I'm Carol Marcoitz Gary Catherine. I realized I
forgot to tell you. I wait. I went to go
see Nate Brigatti last week.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It was so good. He's so normal. I just feel
like if I ever met him, I'd be like, your
brand is normal, Our brand is normal. I really enjoyed it,
super clean humor. I wish my kids were with me,
but the tickets were also really expensive, so you know,
just forget them. It was amazing. He was hilarious and
(00:41):
did just a really great job, you know, doing what he.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Does, undisputed king of the normies. He's He's so great.
I love any opportunity he gets. Just keep giving him stuff,
just like just like I want Doug Burgham and Marco
Rubert to have like so funny seven jobs. I'm happy
for Nate Bargazzi to have all the entertainment jobs.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So just do that.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yes, love it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So, by the way, I say, can I say also
that I'm coming off a nine to ten mile hike today,
so if my words give me yeh know.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Why I'll be there to help you.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I feel like I have very few friends who would
have wanted to join me on that one, and I
have one friend who did and we made it happen.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Like, yeah, I know, I'm at the bottom of that
list of friends who would want to join you. Like
that was my gut feeling for drinks afterwards. Maybe you
know so Iran is still the top story of the week.
We are going to be releasing this episode a day
early because it is changing so quickly and we don't
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know what's going to happen. We're recording this Tuesday night.
Trump was going to speak and then the White House
called a lid, so we don't know. He had a
two hour conversation with Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Yeah Who.
We don't know what they spoke about. Yet they've been
getting along and I think things are going pretty swimmingly.
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Israel has frankly been on a tear. They've been dismantling
the place, and things are going very well.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah. I mean, look, Israel is surrounded by Iranian proxies.
Iranian proxies have been doing harm to American assets and
American soldiers and American races and American ships for years
and years and years done worse often to Israel. And again, I,
like I said, I don't want to assume that Iran
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doesn't have capabilities that it might still have. Yes, and
I don't think I think Israel's intel has shown itself
to be extremely competent. I'm I'm sure they quite a
bit about it. But this does seem like just such
a high value opportunity to put this awful, violent regime
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that would like to take over the world and like
to have a nuke, which is a really bad combo
of all the things on its knees. Yeah, and there's
a yes seems like an open one given that Israel
took out all of their missile defenses pretty quick, it's
been continues to take out launching spots and here.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
We are, Yeah, here we are. So the question has
been is this going to split MAGA and I have
a new poll to tell our listeners about that found
this is a poll of just Trump voters. So eighty
percent of Trump voters back the United States providing the
offensive weapons to Israel. I'm not surprised by that at all.
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In addition, the poll found seventy two percent of voters
support of the United States taking its own military action
targeting to prevent the Iranian regime from developing nuclear weapons.
Then eighty percent of voters felt that I ran as
a destabilizing force, a sponsors terrorism, threatens US allies, and
undermines American interest throughout the region. Seventy two percent said
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I ran with a serious threat to the United States
national security. Now let's be real here. This poll was
conducted yesterday and the day before, so Monday and Sunday.
It's very possible that Americans have seen Israel deliver a
total whooping on Iran in the last few days and decided, sure,
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why not we could join in. That's fine, because I
don't think that if this poll was conducted before the
fighting began and we saw just what a paper tiger
Iran really is, that the numbers would be quite this high.
But it really does say something that there really isn't
a split in MAGA. These are Trump voters with these numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, and I think something that I have pretty much
always liked about Trump, even when I've been very skeptical
of him, as I was during his first term. Look,
he'll say things that make me nervous on the foreign
policy front. I get nervous about like Steve Whitcoff saying
he's negotiating. I think a lot of that was a ruse. Sure,
I get nervous about these things. And also Trump does
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seem to know when the rubber hits the road wins
a good opportunity. He listens to military experts about it,
he listens to intel. He doesn't drop off cash for
enemies instead opting for bombs. And the thing that I
think many Americans are okay with is an American foreign
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policy from a guy who says, these are bad guys.
I don't want to go nation build. I just want
to go strike and then come home and let the
pilots have lunch. Like that's that's what he wants to do,
and he has a record of doing it on solo money.
He's like, I got a hit, I'm going to take
the hit, and right, that's it. And I actually this
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is a very DC story. I was at a very
DC dinner the night that Solomoni was struck was killed,
as our friend Smokes has turned to salsa, and everyone
at this sort of conventional table of foreign foreign policy
experts because it was very beltwigh situation was like, oh
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my gosh, this is it. This is the beginning of
World War three. He's done it. He's done the thing
we were afraid of, that we said he was going
to do. And I was basically the only person who
was like, I don't know, Like, maybe it's goodbe not
the Iranian general who's guilty of a lot of bad
stuff and was in Iraq doing those bad things to
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our people, and maybe it won't be World War three.
And in fact it wasn't right because Trump takes the
shot and then goes back to doing what he does right.
And he's done that with the Houties, where he's bombed
them for six weeks. Actually from Noah Pollock had a
tweet on this, and it echoed exactly what I was thinking.
He says, this endless war shrieking is ridiculous. Trump bombed
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the hoodies for six weeks and then ended it. He
fought Isis for around two years to feed them, and
then ended it. Trump killed Solomoni and did not engage further.
He degraded al Shabab and Somalia for three years and
then ended it. Trump's record of not dragging us into
another endless war is impeccable.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, I also think he you know, for all of
Trump's off the coff stuff, and look, you know you
and I have been critical when we feel like he
just says things. He just says things. He actually has
been telegraphing this for a long time. The White House released,
you know, a montage of Trump commenting on this over
the years. But I went back to May when he
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did his Middle Eastern tour and he gave that speech
in Saudi Arabia, where I liked that speech a lot,
but I felt like a lot of people who are
supportive of Israel didn't like it. And they didn't I
thought they just didn't understand it. And at the time
he said in that speech, he said, I Ran can
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have a much brighter future, but we will never allow
them to threaten America and our allies with terrorism or
nuclear attack. The time is right now for them to choose.
And I at the time was like, how do you
not hear this as a pro Israel speech? Which allies?
Does he mean here? It could only be Israel? So,
you know, I think people wanted and some anti Israel
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people also heard this as an anti Israel speech, and
I was just perplexed at the time. I did not
understand how anybody could have heard it as anything other
than Trump being supportive of Israel, which he has been
the entire time he ran for president, and during his
entire first administration he has been damn near flawless on Israel.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I just think that I understand why people worry about
nation building.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, we did it poorly.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah. A friend of mine tweeted at one point, not
anti warrior, anti nation building, right, and that is Look,
I have many friends who lost limbs, I have families
who lost family members in those conflicts, trying to make
good on those promises, right. I understand people being war
weary and being worried about that. But I think Trump
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has shown a propensity to be like occasionally bellicos and
then wrapper up, which I think most Americans are comfortable with.
Certainly most Republicans are comfortable with, yeah, and probably most
Trump voters. While there are also very loud Trump coalition
influencers who disagree right.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
And those influencers, it turns out, are a stark minority,
And I feel like, you know, for a lot of
those influencers, it's not about war, it's not about even
nation building. It's about being anti Israel. Look it feels
like that that's their prerogative, but don't try to sell
us on Oh this is not what Trump ran on.
(10:00):
I know, retweeted a bunch of old tweets of mine
where Trump is saying Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon
and Trump is saying we will stand by Israel. So
I just don't see how anybody could have followed politics
for the last, you know, almost ten years of Trump
on the scene. It's actually we just passed the ten
year mark when he came down the escalated and not
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seeing him as this very very pro Israel guy.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, And I think when it comes to foreign policy,
having credible threats, having capable allies who are doing the
kinds of amazing almost magical things that Israel is accomplishing
right now, it really is those things make peace. And
I know it's like it's an old saw, peace through strength,
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but I believe it real and reterrence is real, and
when you lose it, it's hard to get back, and
we certainly lost it during Afghanistans withdrawal. And I just
like to see I have rejoiced to see Israel's successes
and to see institutions work the way they're supposed to
work and in sometimes like really astounding ways, and for
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us to be able to buoy that and to on
the cheap get maybe a huge when in the region.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I mean absolutely, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Mad at it.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, definitely. You know. Trump had a comment today he
said on his truth social he said, we now have
complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran
had good skytrackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it,
but it doesn't compare to American made, conceived and manufactured stuff.
Nobody does it better than the good old USA. And
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a lot of people were like, we now have complete
and total control of the skies over Iran. Okay, Like
that's great.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know why I can't credit it, but yeah, because
I didn't see the name. But somebody tweeted the kid
who does nothing the group project and still get today.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Somebody on one of my group chats said, it's like
when the husbands like, we're pregnant.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I did all this work.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh wow, Yeah, we shall keep you posted. But I
don't I think the split is overblown. I agree.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I agree, it is overblown and I really don't see
uh much of a split in real life especially So
look again, you're the influencers. Can say what they want.
They can be angry about any military action at all,
but it is not the military action that they're pretending
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it will be. I would be against that military action.
I'd be against boots on the ground for American troops.
We'll be right back on normally. Meanwhile, what are the
Democrats up to? Oh my god, it's just you know,
Democrats keep getting arrested for illegal imigrants and it is
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just entirely baffling to me how they've decided that this
is the issue that they're going to just this is
the hill that they're going to die on. It's unbelievable.
So we know Senator Alex Padilla interrupted Secretary Christinome last
week as she was speaking. He was tackled by secret Service.
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He was not wearing his senator pin and she did
not know who he was, so he just came off
as some guy charging at the Secretary Palm and Security.
Earlier today, Democratic reps, I'm going to butcher Raja Krishna
Morphy and Jonathan Jackson attempted to enter an ICE facility
in Chicago. It was an interaction that they filmed. The
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guy at the ice facility was basically like, no, I
don't have to answer to you and close the gate
on them. And then also today Brad Lander, a mayoral
candidate in New York City, attempted to stop ice from
detaining someone by locking arms with them. It turned into
a bit of a wrestling match. Our friend Kirsten Fleming wrote,
he looks like the town drunk getting tossed out of
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the bar once again for getting fresh with the waitress.
That really sums it up very well. He was very disheveled.
Why are they doing this? It is just bananas to
me that they've decided to make this their whole issue.
And it's not over for brad Lander. He got to
get out, but the US Attorney's Office is still investigating
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his actions. I'm baffled, and I'm baffled despite Brad Lander
was my city councilman in Brooklyn and he was the
absolute worst. I'll get into that in a second, But
what do you think? What are we looking at here?
Why do they need this issue so badly? Why have
they decided this is the issue?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I mean look, I had sort of a radicalizing moment
during COVID when in La LA's public school teachers who
would not teach American children in classrooms volunteered to go
to migrant shelters. And I just thought, oh, no, they
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just really like them not an Americans, Like it's just
and it is it. They just keep proving that, And
I'm not I generally want to not uh like assume
people's motives in that way, but the evidence is mounting
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right that they want to offer benefits that other people
don't get. I've always felt this way about in state
tuition for illegal immigrants, like, so, a kid from North
Carolina can't go uh to another state, but but somebody
from El Salvador can get in state tuition, Like it's
wild to me. But they do this over and over again.
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They show it over and over again. They care more
about uh protecting illegal immigrants than they do about those
who are hurt by them. And it's such a bad issue,
and I think they look at they look at us
on the boys and girls' sports issue and go, I
can't believe this is the hill you're going to pick
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to die on. I'm like, my dude, this is an
eighty twenty issue.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
We look at them and go, why is this the
hill you're dying on?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And I think maybe they think it's an eighty twenty
issue and they've been so bubblized they don't realize that
at best this is splitting in half for some groups
of migrants, right, And this.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Whole theatrical nonsense. Yeah, tonight's wear padilla and his situation
when he comes into the room. He's not wearing his
pen on purpose. When you're in a situation as a
senator and by the way, not a well known senator
you were appointed. Now he knows who you are.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I have to admit I did not know his name.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You wear your pen so that all the security can
know that you are who you say you are, the guy.
And it is a whole lot to ask a secret servants,
agents of protection forces in general that you just get
to wander up as a large man to a small
female cabinet secretary. After the president has had three plots
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for maybe four plots against him for assassination, two of
them come close to pulled off, and they're just supposed
to sit on their hands. It's until you clarify crazy
puts them in a terrible position, and he did it
on purpose because he wanted this result.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, it's wild. Let me tell you guys a little
bit about Brad Lander, because I just he's the kind
of politician that I always worry will succeed beyond where
he should. So he was my city councilman. He's now
the controller of New York City. The last time he
got arrested for protesting was in favor of speed cameras
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being put around the city. He felt like people were
speeding and it's really you know, he wanted to make
sure that people weren't going to do that, and somehow
that turned into a tussle with police and he got
his speed cameras, went on to get dozens of tickets,
speeding tickets on the speeding cameras he wanted to put in.
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But he let me tell you another little story about him.
He one time was on a panel and he got
tried to arrange protesters for the panel that he was
participating in for them to come in protest so that
it would make news, and he was since he's completely inept,
he sent them to the wrong address. I mean, this
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guy is just he is an embarrassment. I have maybe
a little bit too much information on him because he
was my city councilman and I felt so strongly about
his just ridiculous policies. But this is the guy I
always worried would become mayor of New York. Now the
other communists running in the race certainly seems as bad,
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if not worse. But yeah, Brad Lander arrested to because
he decided he had to make a splash for his
mayoral campaign. Really, there wasn't at all about, you know,
about anything else. Here is his wife. We have a
clip of his wife talking about what it means that
he got arrested. I mean, it's not what I want
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to say to them, but I mean, what are what
are we doing? What are we doing as a country.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
If they're gonna take Brad into the elevator like that,
and he's the citywide elected official, how are they treating
our neighbors and our other folks.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I mean, I would say that, you know, they represent
the Justice Department at some point, and this is the
antism antithesis of justice, don't is.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No one above the law? Yeah, or people above the law?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Now, right, of course, they found tweets of Brad Lander
saying no one is above the law. He obviously thinks
he is above the law. I tried to interfere with
ICE agents because he just felt like he was on
the right side of that, and they better listen to him.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
And here's the thing that can be your sincere take right.
I'm an activist, I'm an up in here. I'm going
to cause trouble. Great, you also have to take the
punishment for that. That's your your semi civil disobedience is
gonna come right, possibly being a little man handled and
dragged away if you look like you're being threatening to
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someone or interfering with law enforcements, lawful duties.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, and they did. You know, as I'm watching this,
this like tussle, they really didn't like grab him aggressively.
I felt like, I don't know if I'm an ICE agent.
I maybe this is why I'm not an ICE agent. Yeah,
but I feel like I would be more like he's
stopping you from making the arrest that you're there to make.
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And he just thinks he's gonna link arms, and that'll
be you know, why are you arresting me? I'm just
standing in this hallway, is what he's saying. And You're like,
you're not just standing in this hallway, you're literally blocking me.
I think that the agents are report very gentle with him.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
The progress report on a agent Mark Wuitz is that
she does not show proper restraint. This is I also
think that once once it's been made clear to this
person that they can't interfere in the way that they're
whether it's padilla or lamber, like, how do the agents
not just be like, this is embarrassing for you, right,
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let's just let's just not do that anymore. But I
think they they think it looks courageous or virtuous. I
think it looks quite silly. I agree, even when I think, oh,
maybe they went a little hard, maybe they should let up,
which I haven't thought yet, Like if I did, I
would still be like, but oh, this is what I
was gonna say, Carol, if we reversed it and it
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was like a not very well known Republican senator busted up.
Let's say during Obama Care busted into Kathleen Sibelius. I'm
picking a female imagine into into a press conference instead
of giving an opposing press conference. Waltz is up in there,
moves toward the stage, pushes back on officers and then
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gets put to the ground. Yeah, I would agree with
the Republican senator's position on Obamacare and say he.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Done brought that on himself, right, not wearing his pin
like come on, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I swear to you I would not give him a break.
I might be like, oh, like, maybe they shouldn't have
gone so hard, Like that's that's as far as I
would go. Yeah, because I'd be like, that was dumb.
You should have done that, right.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But I didn't. I didn't even think that they went
hard on Senator pay But he disagrees, and we're gonna
we're gonna play a little clip of him tearing up
and talking about what they did to him.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
I was forced to the ground, first on my knees
and then flat on my chest, and it's those handcuffed
and marched down a hallway, repeatedly.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Asking why am I being detained? Not once did they
tell me why. I pray you never have a moment
like this, but I will tell you. In that moment,
a lot of questions came to my mind. First of all,
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where are they taking me? Because I know I'm not
just being escorted out of the building. Am I being
arrested here.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Don't charge at the Secretary of Homeland Security as she's
giving a speech and try to interrupt her. And this
won't happen to you. It's really just that simple. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, and once he pushes back on those officers, it
is an insert that they get him out of the room. Yeah,
because they don't know whether to believe that he's there
doing what he says he's doing.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Also, can I just like appro tip on reaching mail voters.
Stop crying. There's a lot of crying going on Act.
There's a lot Ken Martin, We're.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Just both not criers.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I feel like, I don't know, I just I just
think I'm just saying that's one of the things you.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Can try normally. Pro tip stop crying.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Actually one of my I'm not in favor of more
federal laws in general, but if I could ban one thing,
it would be crying selfie videos.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oh yeah, for sure, illegal right now worse?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, straight to jail.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, pineapple and pizza and crying video.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
No, I'm a violator, No violator.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
No, in my uh, in my dictatorship, it would be illegal,
So you'd check us.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'm out of luck.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, we're going to take a short break and come
right back with normally light story wrap us up here.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, so you know how the news media sometimes does
this thing where they discover things that have always existed. Yeah, this, yes,
Annually outlets like the New York Times. New York Times
does a trend piece this week on is it okay
for your kids to rot all summer? Some parents are
choosing to forego high intensity camps and activities for their
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children in favor of weeks of unplanned time. No way
call it. They got a name for it, kid rotting.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
One.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I don't like the term rotting. Bed rotting is what
the youngs call just sitting around binging a TV. Now,
I'm not in favor of the term rotting. It just
grosses me out. Right. This is also just known as summer, right,
that's what used to be known as summer. Yeah, yeah,
I don't need a new version. I fully agree.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And I wrote about a very similar thing in January
of twenty sixteen. It was during the time, you know,
between when kids are off for a break, and everybody
was like, what are your kids going to do? And
I had small kids, and I was like, what am
I going to do? We take them to the park
once a day, and you know, that's what I'm going
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to do. My kids go to some version of camp.
They do also have a lot of downtime with no camp,
weeks and weeks of nothing going on. What I wrote
at the time is raising children is exhausting, and there's
no reason to make it more difficult by wearing ourselves
out in pursuit of entertainment for our kids. That's not
to say we shouldn't be involved in our children's lives
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or long for some glory days where our moms chain
smoked cigarettes and played majong with their friends while we
entertained ourselves with matches and dry cleaner bags. There is
a happy medium, there is, and you know I mentioned
this on Fox the other day talking about this. But
my fifteen year old daughter has been sleeping till noon
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every day, and good for her. She works really hard
all year. She's a straight A student. Let her enjoy
and then she'll have some you know, teen tours coming up.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I loved the way that they have to pay being
bored to high strung New York parents in this. By
the way, one of the camps on this list that
they mentioned in the New York Times piece, which, of course,
like all of this is out of my income bracket.
One of the camps is like the Metropolitan Museum of
Art maybe, and it's fifteen hundred dollars a week. I'm
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gonna check it, weld On, it's in here. Oh I
can't find it, okay, ive, Yeah. The point is at
one point in this piece, uh, they there's a person
who advises private school admissions missions consultant in Manhattan. She
advises these parents to give their kids some unscheduled time,
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and she's she says, I tell them their kid will
be more ahead with their own experimentation versus taking a
class inside other children. She said. Registering for STEM camp,
for instance, may seem like a great idea to a parent,
but it can leave little room for a kid to
explore their natural curiosities. It's all adult driven.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, I have to I have to just also add
this is I mean that New York you know type
a thing is so so real. But when my daughter
was we had our first child and we were living
in Manhattan, we had to apply her to nursery school,
which is like applying to college. I wrote a really
jokey essay about like, you know, like she likes to
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play with her ABC puzzle, but mostly she likes putting
all the pieces in a handbag and carrying it around
the house. And like I just I made it as much, like,
isn't this ridiculous? She got in, Yes, if you make
if you make a big joke out of it. She
got into like, you know, the only the only nursery
school we applied to, but that was really really hard
to get into. So nice.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, by the way, just for the record, it is
the American Museum of Natural History and it is thirteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Per week, thirteen hundred a week. That is in sanity.
Why I was thinking eight hundred as a like extremely
high number that would be ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, and I would say, I get it that people
need childcare obviously, That's why people end up with kids
at YMCA camps. And actually I think day camps at
REX and nine yeah, probably are a lot of boredom,
Like they're not exactly totally planning that day either. But
there is so much to be said for kids having
unstructured time just goof off and they find so many
(29:30):
cool things to do. My kids this summer have started
with a friend in the neighborhood. They started playing like
a pirate themed game and now they've decided that they're
writing a book about pirates, but like they're the daughters
of pirates, and I actually think it's a pretty great concept.
And they've everyday with like little character studies and I'm like,
if I had them in camp, they would be doing this.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, totally, I fully on board. My kids live outside
most of the year. I totally love it, and yeah,
let them enjoy it, let them be kids, like just
all this structured stuff, you.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Know, that's part of it too. It's it's and it
makes parenting more fun because you are not you are
not killing yourself to shuttle your children from thing to thing,
and you might actually get organic, creative fun time with them, exactly,
and they're not burnt out and you're not as burnt out. Absolutely.
So Yeah, Lady Parenting with Carol and MK Lazy Parenting.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Oh normally the show was normal. It takes me and
it just gets weird. I'm Mary Catherine.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hume and I'm Carol Marcoitz Gary Catherine. I realized I
forgot to tell you. I wait. I went to go
see Nate Brigatti last week.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It was so good. He's so normal. I just feel
like if I ever met him, I'd be like, your
brand is normal, Our brand is normal. I really enjoyed it,
super clean humor. I wish my kids were with me,
but the tickets were also really expensive, so you know,
just forget them. It was amazing. He was hilarious and
(00:41):
did just a really great job, you know, doing what he.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Does, undisputed king of the normies. He's He's so great.
I love any opportunity he gets. Just keep giving him stuff,
just like just like I want Doug Burgham and Marco
Rubert to have like so funny seven jobs. I'm happy
for Nate Bargazzi to have all the entertainment jobs.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So just do that.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yes, love it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So, by the way, I say, can I say also
that I'm coming off a nine to ten mile hike today,
so if my words give me yeh know.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Why I'll be there to help you.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I feel like I have very few friends who would
have wanted to join me on that one, and I
have one friend who did and we made it happen.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Like, yeah, I know, I'm at the bottom of that
list of friends who would want to join you. Like
that was my gut feeling for drinks afterwards. Maybe you
know so Iran is still the top story of the week.
We are going to be releasing this episode a day
early because it is changing so quickly and we don't
(01:51):
know what's going to happen. We're recording this Tuesday night.
Trump was going to speak and then the White House
called a lid, so we don't know. He had a
two hour conversation with Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Yeah Who.
We don't know what they spoke about. Yet they've been
getting along and I think things are going pretty swimmingly.
(02:14):
Israel has frankly been on a tear. They've been dismantling
the place, and things are going very well.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah. I mean, look, Israel is surrounded by Iranian proxies.
Iranian proxies have been doing harm to American assets and
American soldiers and American races and American ships for years
and years and years done worse often to Israel. And again, I,
like I said, I don't want to assume that Iran
(02:48):
doesn't have capabilities that it might still have. Yes, and
I don't think I think Israel's intel has shown itself
to be extremely competent. I'm I'm sure they quite a
bit about it. But this does seem like just such
a high value opportunity to put this awful, violent regime
(03:11):
that would like to take over the world and like
to have a nuke, which is a really bad combo
of all the things on its knees. Yeah, and there's
a yes seems like an open one given that Israel
took out all of their missile defenses pretty quick, it's
been continues to take out launching spots and here.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
We are, Yeah, here we are. So the question has
been is this going to split MAGA and I have
a new poll to tell our listeners about that found
this is a poll of just Trump voters. So eighty
percent of Trump voters back the United States providing the
offensive weapons to Israel. I'm not surprised by that at all.
(03:52):
In addition, the poll found seventy two percent of voters
support of the United States taking its own military action
targeting to prevent the Iranian regime from developing nuclear weapons.
Then eighty percent of voters felt that I ran as
a destabilizing force, a sponsors terrorism, threatens US allies, and
undermines American interest throughout the region. Seventy two percent said
(04:14):
I ran with a serious threat to the United States
national security. Now let's be real here. This poll was
conducted yesterday and the day before, so Monday and Sunday.
It's very possible that Americans have seen Israel deliver a
total whooping on Iran in the last few days and decided, sure,
(04:34):
why not we could join in. That's fine, because I
don't think that if this poll was conducted before the
fighting began and we saw just what a paper tiger
Iran really is, that the numbers would be quite this high.
But it really does say something that there really isn't
a split in MAGA. These are Trump voters with these numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, and I think something that I have pretty much
always liked about Trump, even when I've been very skeptical
of him, as I was during his first term. Look,
he'll say things that make me nervous on the foreign
policy front. I get nervous about like Steve Whitcoff saying
he's negotiating. I think a lot of that was a ruse. Sure,
I get nervous about these things. And also Trump does
(05:19):
seem to know when the rubber hits the road wins
a good opportunity. He listens to military experts about it,
he listens to intel. He doesn't drop off cash for
enemies instead opting for bombs. And the thing that I
think many Americans are okay with is an American foreign
(05:40):
policy from a guy who says, these are bad guys.
I don't want to go nation build. I just want
to go strike and then come home and let the
pilots have lunch. Like that's that's what he wants to do,
and he has a record of doing it on solo money.
He's like, I got a hit, I'm going to take
the hit, and right, that's it. And I actually this
(06:00):
is a very DC story. I was at a very
DC dinner the night that Solomoni was struck was killed,
as our friend Smokes has turned to salsa, and everyone
at this sort of conventional table of foreign foreign policy
experts because it was very beltwigh situation was like, oh
(06:24):
my gosh, this is it. This is the beginning of
World War three. He's done it. He's done the thing
we were afraid of, that we said he was going
to do. And I was basically the only person who
was like, I don't know, Like, maybe it's goodbe not
the Iranian general who's guilty of a lot of bad
stuff and was in Iraq doing those bad things to
(06:44):
our people, and maybe it won't be World War three.
And in fact it wasn't right because Trump takes the
shot and then goes back to doing what he does right.
And he's done that with the Houties, where he's bombed
them for six weeks. Actually from Noah Pollock had a
tweet on this, and it echoed exactly what I was thinking.
He says, this endless war shrieking is ridiculous. Trump bombed
(07:07):
the hoodies for six weeks and then ended it. He
fought Isis for around two years to feed them, and
then ended it. Trump killed Solomoni and did not engage further.
He degraded al Shabab and Somalia for three years and
then ended it. Trump's record of not dragging us into
another endless war is impeccable.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, I also think he you know, for all of
Trump's off the coff stuff, and look, you know you
and I have been critical when we feel like he
just says things. He just says things. He actually has
been telegraphing this for a long time. The White House released,
you know, a montage of Trump commenting on this over
the years. But I went back to May when he
(07:46):
did his Middle Eastern tour and he gave that speech
in Saudi Arabia, where I liked that speech a lot,
but I felt like a lot of people who are
supportive of Israel didn't like it. And they didn't I
thought they just didn't understand it. And at the time
he said in that speech, he said, I Ran can
(08:06):
have a much brighter future, but we will never allow
them to threaten America and our allies with terrorism or
nuclear attack. The time is right now for them to choose.
And I at the time was like, how do you
not hear this as a pro Israel speech? Which allies?
Does he mean here? It could only be Israel? So,
you know, I think people wanted and some anti Israel
(08:29):
people also heard this as an anti Israel speech, and
I was just perplexed at the time. I did not
understand how anybody could have heard it as anything other
than Trump being supportive of Israel, which he has been
the entire time he ran for president, and during his
entire first administration he has been damn near flawless on Israel.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I just think that I understand why people worry about
nation building.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, we did it poorly.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah. A friend of mine tweeted at one point, not
anti warrior, anti nation building, right, and that is Look,
I have many friends who lost limbs, I have families
who lost family members in those conflicts, trying to make
good on those promises, right. I understand people being war
weary and being worried about that. But I think Trump
(09:17):
has shown a propensity to be like occasionally bellicos and
then wrapper up, which I think most Americans are comfortable with.
Certainly most Republicans are comfortable with, yeah, and probably most
Trump voters. While there are also very loud Trump coalition
influencers who disagree right.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
And those influencers, it turns out, are a stark minority,
And I feel like, you know, for a lot of
those influencers, it's not about war, it's not about even
nation building. It's about being anti Israel. Look it feels
like that that's their prerogative, but don't try to sell
us on Oh this is not what Trump ran on.
(10:00):
I know, retweeted a bunch of old tweets of mine
where Trump is saying Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon
and Trump is saying we will stand by Israel. So
I just don't see how anybody could have followed politics
for the last, you know, almost ten years of Trump
on the scene. It's actually we just passed the ten
year mark when he came down the escalated and not
(10:21):
seeing him as this very very pro Israel guy.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, And I think when it comes to foreign policy,
having credible threats, having capable allies who are doing the
kinds of amazing almost magical things that Israel is accomplishing
right now, it really is those things make peace. And
I know it's like it's an old saw, peace through strength,
(10:49):
but I believe it real and reterrence is real, and
when you lose it, it's hard to get back, and
we certainly lost it during Afghanistans withdrawal. And I just
like to see I have rejoiced to see Israel's successes
and to see institutions work the way they're supposed to
work and in sometimes like really astounding ways, and for
(11:11):
us to be able to buoy that and to on
the cheap get maybe a huge when in the region.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I mean absolutely, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Mad at it.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, definitely. You know. Trump had a comment today he
said on his truth social he said, we now have
complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran
had good skytrackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it,
but it doesn't compare to American made, conceived and manufactured stuff.
Nobody does it better than the good old USA. And
(11:44):
a lot of people were like, we now have complete
and total control of the skies over Iran. Okay, Like
that's great.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know why I can't credit it, but yeah, because
I didn't see the name. But somebody tweeted the kid
who does nothing the group project and still get today.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Somebody on one of my group chats said, it's like
when the husbands like, we're pregnant.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I did all this work.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh wow, Yeah, we shall keep you posted. But I
don't I think the split is overblown. I agree.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I agree, it is overblown and I really don't see
uh much of a split in real life especially So
look again, you're the influencers. Can say what they want.
They can be angry about any military action at all,
but it is not the military action that they're pretending
(12:39):
it will be. I would be against that military action.
I'd be against boots on the ground for American troops.
We'll be right back on normally. Meanwhile, what are the
Democrats up to? Oh my god, it's just you know,
Democrats keep getting arrested for illegal imigrants and it is
(13:01):
just entirely baffling to me how they've decided that this
is the issue that they're going to just this is
the hill that they're going to die on. It's unbelievable.
So we know Senator Alex Padilla interrupted Secretary Christinome last
week as she was speaking. He was tackled by secret Service.
(13:21):
He was not wearing his senator pin and she did
not know who he was, so he just came off
as some guy charging at the Secretary Palm and Security.
Earlier today, Democratic reps, I'm going to butcher Raja Krishna
Morphy and Jonathan Jackson attempted to enter an ICE facility
in Chicago. It was an interaction that they filmed. The
(13:44):
guy at the ice facility was basically like, no, I
don't have to answer to you and close the gate
on them. And then also today Brad Lander, a mayoral
candidate in New York City, attempted to stop ice from
detaining someone by locking arms with them. It turned into
a bit of a wrestling match. Our friend Kirsten Fleming wrote,
he looks like the town drunk getting tossed out of
(14:06):
the bar once again for getting fresh with the waitress.
That really sums it up very well. He was very disheveled.
Why are they doing this? It is just bananas to
me that they've decided to make this their whole issue.
And it's not over for brad Lander. He got to
get out, but the US Attorney's Office is still investigating
(14:27):
his actions. I'm baffled, and I'm baffled despite Brad Lander
was my city councilman in Brooklyn and he was the
absolute worst. I'll get into that in a second, But
what do you think? What are we looking at here?
Why do they need this issue so badly? Why have
they decided this is the issue?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I mean look, I had sort of a radicalizing moment
during COVID when in La LA's public school teachers who
would not teach American children in classrooms volunteered to go
to migrant shelters. And I just thought, oh, no, they
(15:06):
just really like them not an Americans, Like it's just
and it is it. They just keep proving that, And
I'm not I generally want to not uh like assume
people's motives in that way, but the evidence is mounting
(15:28):
right that they want to offer benefits that other people
don't get. I've always felt this way about in state
tuition for illegal immigrants, like, so, a kid from North
Carolina can't go uh to another state, but but somebody
from El Salvador can get in state tuition, Like it's
wild to me. But they do this over and over again.
(15:49):
They show it over and over again. They care more
about uh protecting illegal immigrants than they do about those
who are hurt by them. And it's such a bad issue,
and I think they look at they look at us
on the boys and girls' sports issue and go, I
can't believe this is the hill you're going to pick
(16:09):
to die on. I'm like, my dude, this is an
eighty twenty issue.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
We look at them and go, why is this the
hill you're dying on?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And I think maybe they think it's an eighty twenty
issue and they've been so bubblized they don't realize that
at best this is splitting in half for some groups
of migrants, right, And this.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Whole theatrical nonsense. Yeah, tonight's wear padilla and his situation
when he comes into the room. He's not wearing his
pen on purpose. When you're in a situation as a
senator and by the way, not a well known senator
you were appointed. Now he knows who you are.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I have to admit I did not know his name.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You wear your pen so that all the security can
know that you are who you say you are, the guy.
And it is a whole lot to ask a secret servants,
agents of protection forces in general that you just get
to wander up as a large man to a small
female cabinet secretary. After the president has had three plots
(17:10):
for maybe four plots against him for assassination, two of
them come close to pulled off, and they're just supposed
to sit on their hands. It's until you clarify crazy
puts them in a terrible position, and he did it
on purpose because he wanted this result.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, it's wild. Let me tell you guys a little
bit about Brad Lander, because I just he's the kind
of politician that I always worry will succeed beyond where
he should. So he was my city councilman. He's now
the controller of New York City. The last time he
got arrested for protesting was in favor of speed cameras
(17:49):
being put around the city. He felt like people were
speeding and it's really you know, he wanted to make
sure that people weren't going to do that, and somehow
that turned into a tussle with police and he got
his speed cameras, went on to get dozens of tickets,
speeding tickets on the speeding cameras he wanted to put in.
(18:10):
But he let me tell you another little story about him.
He one time was on a panel and he got
tried to arrange protesters for the panel that he was
participating in for them to come in protest so that
it would make news, and he was since he's completely inept,
he sent them to the wrong address. I mean, this
(18:32):
guy is just he is an embarrassment. I have maybe
a little bit too much information on him because he
was my city councilman and I felt so strongly about
his just ridiculous policies. But this is the guy I
always worried would become mayor of New York. Now the
other communists running in the race certainly seems as bad,
(18:55):
if not worse. But yeah, Brad Lander arrested to because
he decided he had to make a splash for his
mayoral campaign. Really, there wasn't at all about, you know,
about anything else. Here is his wife. We have a
clip of his wife talking about what it means that
he got arrested. I mean, it's not what I want
(19:17):
to say to them, but I mean, what are what
are we doing? What are we doing as a country.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
If they're gonna take Brad into the elevator like that,
and he's the citywide elected official, how are they treating
our neighbors and our other folks.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I mean, I would say that, you know, they represent
the Justice Department at some point, and this is the
antism antithesis of justice, don't is.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No one above the law? Yeah, or people above the law?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Now, right, of course, they found tweets of Brad Lander
saying no one is above the law. He obviously thinks
he is above the law. I tried to interfere with
ICE agents because he just felt like he was on
the right side of that, and they better listen to him.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
And here's the thing that can be your sincere take right.
I'm an activist, I'm an up in here. I'm going
to cause trouble. Great, you also have to take the
punishment for that. That's your your semi civil disobedience is
gonna come right, possibly being a little man handled and
dragged away if you look like you're being threatening to
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someone or interfering with law enforcements, lawful duties.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, and they did. You know, as I'm watching this,
this like tussle, they really didn't like grab him aggressively.
I felt like, I don't know if I'm an ICE agent.
I maybe this is why I'm not an ICE agent. Yeah,
but I feel like I would be more like he's
stopping you from making the arrest that you're there to make.
(20:37):
And he just thinks he's gonna link arms, and that'll
be you know, why are you arresting me? I'm just
standing in this hallway, is what he's saying. And You're like,
you're not just standing in this hallway, you're literally blocking me.
I think that the agents are report very gentle with him.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
The progress report on a agent Mark Wuitz is that
she does not show proper restraint. This is I also
think that once once it's been made clear to this
person that they can't interfere in the way that they're
whether it's padilla or lamber, like, how do the agents
not just be like, this is embarrassing for you, right,
(21:14):
let's just let's just not do that anymore. But I
think they they think it looks courageous or virtuous. I
think it looks quite silly. I agree, even when I think, oh,
maybe they went a little hard, maybe they should let up,
which I haven't thought yet, Like if I did, I
would still be like, but oh, this is what I
was gonna say, Carol, if we reversed it and it
(21:35):
was like a not very well known Republican senator busted up.
Let's say during Obama Care busted into Kathleen Sibelius. I'm
picking a female imagine into into a press conference instead
of giving an opposing press conference. Waltz is up in there,
moves toward the stage, pushes back on officers and then
(21:56):
gets put to the ground. Yeah, I would agree with
the Republican senator's position on Obamacare and say he.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Done brought that on himself, right, not wearing his pin
like come on, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I swear to you I would not give him a break.
I might be like, oh, like, maybe they shouldn't have
gone so hard, Like that's that's as far as I
would go. Yeah, because I'd be like, that was dumb.
You should have done that, right.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But I didn't. I didn't even think that they went
hard on Senator pay But he disagrees, and we're gonna
we're gonna play a little clip of him tearing up
and talking about what they did to him.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
I was forced to the ground, first on my knees
and then flat on my chest, and it's those handcuffed
and marched down a hallway, repeatedly.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Asking why am I being detained? Not once did they
tell me why. I pray you never have a moment
like this, but I will tell you. In that moment,
a lot of questions came to my mind. First of all,
(23:20):
where are they taking me? Because I know I'm not
just being escorted out of the building. Am I being
arrested here.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Don't charge at the Secretary of Homeland Security as she's
giving a speech and try to interrupt her. And this
won't happen to you. It's really just that simple. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, and once he pushes back on those officers, it
is an insert that they get him out of the room. Yeah,
because they don't know whether to believe that he's there
doing what he says he's doing.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Also, can I just like appro tip on reaching mail voters.
Stop crying. There's a lot of crying going on Act.
There's a lot Ken Martin, We're.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Just both not criers.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I feel like, I don't know, I just I just
think I'm just saying that's one of the things you.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Can try normally. Pro tip stop crying.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Actually one of my I'm not in favor of more
federal laws in general, but if I could ban one thing,
it would be crying selfie videos.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oh yeah, for sure, illegal right now worse?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, straight to jail.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, pineapple and pizza and crying video.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
No, I'm a violator, No violator.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
No, in my uh, in my dictatorship, it would be illegal,
So you'd check us.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'm out of luck.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, we're going to take a short break and come
right back with normally light story wrap us up here.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, so you know how the news media sometimes does
this thing where they discover things that have always existed. Yeah, this, yes,
Annually outlets like the New York Times. New York Times
does a trend piece this week on is it okay
for your kids to rot all summer? Some parents are
choosing to forego high intensity camps and activities for their
(25:13):
children in favor of weeks of unplanned time. No way
call it. They got a name for it, kid rotting.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
One.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I don't like the term rotting. Bed rotting is what
the youngs call just sitting around binging a TV. Now,
I'm not in favor of the term rotting. It just
grosses me out. Right. This is also just known as summer, right,
that's what used to be known as summer. Yeah, yeah,
I don't need a new version. I fully agree.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And I wrote about a very similar thing in January
of twenty sixteen. It was during the time, you know,
between when kids are off for a break, and everybody
was like, what are your kids going to do? And
I had small kids, and I was like, what am
I going to do? We take them to the park
once a day, and you know, that's what I'm going
(26:04):
to do. My kids go to some version of camp.
They do also have a lot of downtime with no camp,
weeks and weeks of nothing going on. What I wrote
at the time is raising children is exhausting, and there's
no reason to make it more difficult by wearing ourselves
out in pursuit of entertainment for our kids. That's not
to say we shouldn't be involved in our children's lives
(26:26):
or long for some glory days where our moms chain
smoked cigarettes and played majong with their friends while we
entertained ourselves with matches and dry cleaner bags. There is
a happy medium, there is, and you know I mentioned
this on Fox the other day talking about this. But
my fifteen year old daughter has been sleeping till noon
(26:46):
every day, and good for her. She works really hard
all year. She's a straight A student. Let her enjoy
and then she'll have some you know, teen tours coming up.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I loved the way that they have to pay being
bored to high strung New York parents in this. By
the way, one of the camps on this list that
they mentioned in the New York Times piece, which, of course,
like all of this is out of my income bracket.
One of the camps is like the Metropolitan Museum of
Art maybe, and it's fifteen hundred dollars a week. I'm
(27:27):
gonna check it, weld On, it's in here. Oh I
can't find it, okay, ive, Yeah. The point is at
one point in this piece, uh, they there's a person
who advises private school admissions missions consultant in Manhattan. She
advises these parents to give their kids some unscheduled time,
(27:48):
and she's she says, I tell them their kid will
be more ahead with their own experimentation versus taking a
class inside other children. She said. Registering for STEM camp,
for instance, may seem like a great idea to a parent,
but it can leave little room for a kid to
explore their natural curiosities. It's all adult driven.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, I have to I have to just also add
this is I mean that New York you know type
a thing is so so real. But when my daughter
was we had our first child and we were living
in Manhattan, we had to apply her to nursery school,
which is like applying to college. I wrote a really
jokey essay about like, you know, like she likes to
(28:30):
play with her ABC puzzle, but mostly she likes putting
all the pieces in a handbag and carrying it around
the house. And like I just I made it as much, like,
isn't this ridiculous? She got in, Yes, if you make
if you make a big joke out of it. She
got into like, you know, the only the only nursery
school we applied to, but that was really really hard
to get into. So nice.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, by the way, just for the record, it is
the American Museum of Natural History and it is thirteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Per week, thirteen hundred a week. That is in sanity.
Why I was thinking eight hundred as a like extremely
high number that would be ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, and I would say, I get it that people
need childcare obviously, That's why people end up with kids
at YMCA camps. And actually I think day camps at
REX and nine yeah, probably are a lot of boredom,
Like they're not exactly totally planning that day either. But
there is so much to be said for kids having
unstructured time just goof off and they find so many
(29:30):
cool things to do. My kids this summer have started
with a friend in the neighborhood. They started playing like
a pirate themed game and now they've decided that they're
writing a book about pirates, but like they're the daughters
of pirates, and I actually think it's a pretty great concept.
And they've everyday with like little character studies and I'm like,
if I had them in camp, they would be doing this.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, totally, I fully on board. My kids live outside
most of the year. I totally love it, and yeah,
let them enjoy it, let them be kids, like just
all this structured stuff, you.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Know, that's part of it too. It's it's and it
makes parenting more fun because you are not you are
not killing yourself to shuttle your children from thing to thing,
and you might actually get organic, creative fun time with them, exactly,
and they're not burnt out and you're not as burnt out. Absolutely.
So Yeah, Lady Parenting with Carol and MK Lazy Parenting.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
That's our trademark here. Thanks for joining us on Normally
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