December 10, 2025 • 52 mins
Kev connects with host, comedian, and former NFL player Anthony “Spice” Adams for a heartfelt and hilarious conversation. The two friends open up about the importance of family and what it means to show up for your kids as a father. Spice shares the unbelievable story of finding out he’d been cut from the Chicago Bears while at Disney World with his family, and the emotional grind of life as an NFL free agent. They also dive into how Spice reinvented himself after football, becoming a content creator and social media star with millions of followers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mike three two. Mike already call him down like I'm like,
damn okay, faster than money, Like, hey, Mike Hall, Big
ten networks fights? Take it away? What take it away?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What up? Y'all? Welcome to Not My Best MoMA with
me kep on stage, author of Successful Failure. In this book,
I talk about all the times I failed, and this
podcast I talk with people who are like me, who
failed and succeeded. But we're not here for their highlights.
(00:47):
You know all that. You know Spice Adams went to
Penn State. He's Omega sci Fi. He was drafted by
the San Francisco forty nine ers in the second round
of the two thousand and three draft. You that he
played in the NFL for nine years when the averages
three to four years. You know, he won or he
was nominated for Sports Emmy in twenty fourteen. You know,
(01:08):
he co founded No Planned Productions. He's been a ballers
man of the People's CSI on Trial. He co hosted
The Great American Baking Show for three seasons. You know
all that. We're not here to talk about that. We're
here to talk about his losses. Ladies and gentlemen, please
welcome to the stage, Anthony Spice.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Adams cut up, man.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I want you to you're at home.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
How you doing, Spike, Man, I'm doing well, man. How
about you? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You the man I'm trying to get like I ain't
talking to you. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, man, we all here grinding, man, I'm out here,
you know, taking care of the fan. Are volunteer culture man?
This guy?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah yeah, y'all don't know, Spice. His home is so
large in Illinois, has his own zip code. You there's
a gate, a security gate. You have to enter the
county that his house is in. And his house is
in his own county as well. It's called Adams County, Illinois.
It's it's off the grid. You won't find it on
a map. It's a secret thing. No flies on all
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kinds of stuff. Before we talk about your failure, Spies,
one of your successes that I have loved to watch.
Your son is quite the football player. What are you
feeling as a father? I know you you try to
temper expectations when it comes to him, and I know
people always calling you talking about the league and all
that stuff. But just as a father who's who's been
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in the NFL, but has now been able to be
a part of his football and track journey. What what
are you.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Feeling, man, keV. I'm sorry to do this to you. Man.
Can we keep it real? Yes, all right, I'm gonna
keep it real.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Keep it real.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
My dad went to prison when I was four. I
know it's supposed to be like a fun show and
stuff like that, but keep it real. My dad went
to prison when I was four. My mom did a
good job of like not like bad mouthing him and
stuff like that, so I didn't grow up resenting him
and things like that. But with that being said, he
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was never at any of my games like high school college.
I got them tickets to the Lion's game when he
was because he couldn't leave a state of Michigan, and
that was the first game he went to. But at
that time, I was like thirty, so I know what
it's like to look up in the stands and know
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for a fact that your dad is not going to
be there. And so when it comes to my son,
he will never know what that feels like. And I
try to make sure that because I volunteer coach, so
I'm at every practice, I'm at every game, I'm waking
them up every morning, and I'm just like, I'm just
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motivating them every day, bro, because I know what it's
like to be on this r and like it was
just me and my mama. My mama don't know nothing
about no football. She don't know nothing about punching nobody
in the face. So I gotta figure all this stuff out,
you know what I'm saying. And I had to figure
it out without the help of having a dad in
my corner. And so now I know how important my
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role is. And so that's why I'm just like, I'm
just pouring everything i can into him. And we played
the same position, play defensive tackle, so I'm like, do
your hand placement gotta be here. I was like, when
we watched take in the NFL, you might spend three
minutes on this movement. That's it. Like he's rewinding the
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tape and you're like, what are you thinking. I'm like,
I don't know, Like, can you just play it so
I can tell you, like this is all you watching.
It's very detailed. So I'm like, bro, I'm not gonna
talk to you like you know boy, because I'm not
raising no boy. I'm raising a man. So I'm gonna
talk to you like a man. Get ready, and so
I just I don't sugarcoat nothing, man. And that's where
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I am with him. Man, Just to answer your question.
But I wanted to be real.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, I appreciate that. You know, I'm watching, you know,
he to me and I'm not a scout and I
you know, I believe it or not, didn't play in
the NFL. No, nor was I closeout And actually yeah,
my coach, I mean we were.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
We were just running forward my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, it was really my coaches tripping. He was hating
on me. Otherwise I probably would have started. But that's
neither here nor there. We're not talking about me. But
if I were a collegiate coach, I'd have some interest
in Baby Spice. I'd be looking at him. He seemed
to be very disruptive to me and his followers. You know,
(05:48):
he probably got the leg up of a nine year
vet teaching him. Here. Here, you got to you got
to hear and you got to rip. Okay, you got
to hear and you got to rip.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, you know. Yeah, man, it's just different this day
and age like, and it's tougher for high school athletes
to get that scholarship man or the scholarship that they
want because you have nil deals. So who are getting
millions of dollars through the NFL? I mean nil deals?
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And then now it's like you have the JUCO now,
so now you can go to a junior college for
two years and still be able to do it enroll
in college as a freshman, you know what I'm saying. Like,
so you could be twenty one years old, married with
two kids and go up against a seventeen year old
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freshot high school.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
True true freshman is gonna take on an even more
different term moving forward, because true freshmen usually just meant
you were in high school. Last year, you didn red
shirt and it was very rare for a true freshman
to play. Now you got you know, you got two years.
You could be a four year starter with six years
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of football experience. Yep. That is a man with a
family against somebody who had chocolate milk for lunch last year.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Like no, And then I haven't even mentioned the transfer.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Port and then you got the portal going, so.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know what I'm saying. So if you are a
all Americans, say you an academic all American and like
you like their draft status that's going up. You just
won the national championship, but you still want more. But
you're like, man, I'm gonna enter myself in the transfer
portal just because I don't like the coach or just
because they're offering me a higher nil deal. Absolutely other school,
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you know what I'm saying, Like the these are with
these kids are thinking about and I think like in college,
they're treating these amateurs like their pros because a lot
of these kids are making more money than them and
they pulling up in a Bentley while the coach is
pulling up in the honddu Corps.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But we gonna get to your store. I want to
say this one last thing. I was watching this Netflix
show on the SEC and Brian Kelly, who's the coach
of LSU, he was on the phone with Garrett Knutsmyer's agent.
They share the same agent. They said. He told the agent,
if he doesn't go in the first or second round,
he's gonna make more money in college this year than
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he would backing up somebody in the NFL. That did
not used to be the case back in the day.
There was all kinds of conflicts of interest. But yes,
so kudos to your son. Shout out to him. Hope
to see him playing Division one or any football wherever
he goes. He's a good kid. From what I learned,
he's a good kid. Now, let's talk about you, Spice.
If you don't know, I found out about Spice Adams
(08:44):
the content creator first because of your retirement video. Right.
I'm not a huge Sporting Owners fan or Bears fan,
so I didn't know Spice the player I was introducing
to you in your retirement. Tell the people your first
failure and that failure, you know, being like the end
(09:05):
of your NFL career began your second career and for
what most people know you from it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
To me, Yeah, So I got released and I was
not expecting to get released because I had a year
left on my deal. And so I was at Disney
World when I got released with my family and I
remember this sister. Was February, and I got a call
from Coach Smith, coach Lovely Smith, and I'm like in February, like,
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so I see the first ring and I'm like, no, man,
that's a Lovely Smith. Like we on the bus, the
kids is looking at Vicky Mas. You know that you
ride on the Magic Express and they got the cartoons
up on the on the screen and the kids slapping
my Disney World, Disney World. I'm looking at like, why
is Lovely calling me? I'm like in February. I'm like, dog,
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he trying to win the Super Bowl early. He called
me in February because I'm being part of the plans.
Who you talk about respect? So I'm like, all this
is going on my head long. Let let me answer this.
I'm like, hello, what's up. He's like, yeah, big guy,
We're gonna let you go. I said, where are we going, coach?
(10:18):
Where you're gonna let me go? You let me go
wild in this defense? Right this defense you're about to
draw up, I'm about to go crazy. Hello. Hello, He's like, yeah,
we're gonna We're gonna let you go. You know, we
appreciate everything you did for the Chicago Burds. And so
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after he hit me up, then the defensive coordinator hit
me up, the D line coach hit me up, the
dB coach hit me up. So that's a that's a
huge sign of respect because a lot of people find
to stay and say, hey man, sorry, you know, it
was a numbers game. We appreciate how hard you work.
You a leader, has nothing to do with your athletic
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ability or you know how, or you being a hard
work like all the coach all the coach talk, and
so that's a sign of respect. Because most people find
out they got released, like on ESPN, like the bottom
line ticker and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, so wait, how look before we go onto your
content creator career, how old were you at this time when.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I got released? Yeah, I would think thirty thirty one.
I'm thirty one.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Okay, So this is a very interesting thing to me
with professional athletes. You played football high school, at minimum
high school, college, NFL eighteen years told, eighteen years, this
has been one of the main things in your life.
Usually they say people go to the NFL were one of,
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if not the best player on their team for a
large portion of their life. You are on vacation and
you plan to be in the NFL the next season. Yes,
What is it like when you realize and you're not.
Your contract's not over. I mean we all kind of
know the NFL's like no guaranteed contracts, but you had
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no reason to believe you were not going to be
in the NFL that that year. What is your mental
state at when you got to sit with that news
and then when you realize, oh my my career is over.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So watch this, Keff. This was the first day of
the trip. Oh no, keV, I'm just getting off the plane.
I'm still like complaining about how much how big my
souldier strap was on the book bag.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Like god, dog, Oh no.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I'm still on that phase getting this news. So I'm like,
I ain't even Gutite was talking about agent. So I'm like, dang,
so I called my agent, Like, dog, I just got released.
I still want to play. Can we find out somewhere
else to play? Hey? Hey, hey, enjoy Nikki, enjoy me.
(13:12):
Daddy's getting released. Dadd's getting released. Yeah, So I don't know, man,
I think Carolina Runner four to three off the top
of my head. Maybe Tampa Bay. I don't know. Can
you look into some of those teams? Maybe? I don't know, man,
Like it's literally just happened, and so I'm not even
thinking about never playing again, Like I'm I want to
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play fifteen years. Yeah, That's what I'm telling myself like that.
When I came in here my first year, I was like, man,
I could play twenty years. Man, second year, I was
like maybe fifteen fifteen. Third year, I was like, I
see why the average is three years. I see it,
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I feel it, I understand it. Yeah, and I just
every year after that, I was like, thank you, God,
thank you for blessing me for another year. Year five, God,
you're six. It's like to me, if I signed a
three year deal, that's three one year deals. That's how
I that's how I have to look at it. That's
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that's to keep myself, like to work hard, because as
soon as you get drafted whatever, soon as you go
in there, like it's a revolving door. Like if they
don't care how good you are, whatever, they're gonna draft
another defensive tackle who's younger, cheaper, and you know, and
you gotta show them the ropes. And you're gonna end
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up showing them the ropes because you're gonna you're gonna
bust your butt every day and so but the people
that's behind you, they're gonna do the same thing, but
they're gonna be younger and they can be cheaper.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
So wait, so so okay, so when did you know
you weren't gonna play again?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So okay, yeah, so after you get released, I got release,
so I got a bunch of time to try to
get onto another team. So March come by, and March
is like the huge free agency deal, right, and so
that comes and goes. It's the first wave where people, man,
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what's the camp got two hundred million dollars. He'd be like, dang,
that's what's up. He played the same position as you.
I know, I know ye. So you go through all
of that talk, you go through March, nothing, and you
go through the first wave of free agency, second wave,
third wave nothing. Then you get to April and it's
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like not a draft is coming up. It's like now
you're looking at the young guys and who's gonna get
traded whatever, So then make them up. But at that
after all these months going by, you gotta stay in shape.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You gotta say, you gotta stay.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Running, you gotta stay lifting way and that costs money,
so oh dang, yeah, Like if you want to go
use somebody's facility and they're eight and stuff like that,
and a personal trainer, that could be like three hundred
dollars a day, a day a day. So you start
looking at but you know you got money coming in, right,
so you but now the money has stopped because you
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just got released. So now you're working out and then
you know, at the end of the month, you're like, hey,
this bill right here, let's say three thousand dollars, bro,
like just just for the for the what money, you
know what I mean? And so you like you start
seeing all this money going out but not really coming
back in. So now you start to think, like, hey, bro,
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I got four kids. Now I just had a daughter,
like fresh out, fresh out, Yeah see fresh out bro,
Like bruh. And I'm like, okay, I gotta make this work.
I got like as soon as my eyes open, I'm
responsible for six pep and I don't have any income
coming in. And so it's like you start, as every
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month go by, you gotta make the decision do you
keep chasing this dream? Because what if Seattle Seahawks called
and you gotta Now, you gotta uproot your family to
go to Seattle. And that's not a guarantee I can
play in Seattle. And like, let's just say so, it
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gets to a point where you start waiting for injuries
like that and that's the worst and I hated that,
But you gotta wait for somebody to get injured in
order for somebody to call you and say, hey, we
want you to come, And then that's not even guaranteed.
They may call three people and say I want you
all to battle it out. Who's gonna be the fastest,
who are gonna do two twenty five the most? And
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so they have a whole combine there. So you will
get there. Oh I gotta work out with the Baltimore Ravens.
You will get there and you see in Dominicants suit
there and you're like, why is why is suit here? Bro?
I mean it wouldn't being Dominican suit, but you know,
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you know that you just seen got a Pro Bowl
and like you be like, hey Holmes.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You here too, I'm asking him is he here?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Looking at him?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You here?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Not bruh. And so you get to the point where
you like, okay, I could come in for an injured
defensive tackle and play lights out on that. Once he
gets better, you out of there. So I uprooted my
family to come out to Seattle and say, all right,
things are going where I've been starting off for three
weeks and okay, now it was time to look for
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schools and stuff like that. You can come out here
being the kids out here, and we're good. I found
us a house. We straight, I just rented it out.
We're gonna play. We're gonna pay this much. Get the movers,
we get the cars shipped out. Boom, this is the
school the kids gonna go to. I already talked to
some of the wives, some of the players. Whatever. Blah
blah blah. Boom that happened. Family, come out and get
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the is en rolled in school. Oh boy, he ready?
Now he good to go. Huh y'all said he was
gonna be out for four weeks. It's two weeks. It's miraculous,
a miracle that happen. Huh. Hell were good. Yeah, So
we don't need your services no more. Man, appreciate it, man,
bring the playbook. You worked hard. We appreciate you. Man,
all right, I don't I don't want that to happen
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to my family, and it happens every day. And so
it's like, let me create a budget. Let me. I
never was like really frivolous like that with my money anyway,
So it was like, let me scrape up something where
I could get like at least three years until I
can figure this thing out insto what I want to
do next. But this is like all the thoughts you
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have to think by for me at least September October
because I'm a big dude. Man, I can only work
out so much. Man, the food wud be good and
I got money now, so it's like I can go
get what I want. I'm still ain't a wait, but
I'm still like working out and I'm just like kind
of just like fooling myself when I look in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, I should be straight, man, They still should want me,
you know, when I get there whatever whatever the you know,
metabolism made the same, you know, and it's just like
you got to make a decision, bro.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like I'm I can't go to Oakland Raiders at the
time and they want me to work out. I can't
risk tearing my handscreen, you know what I'm saying. Like,
I'm not about to run up total tape on them.
I'm about to run up forty for what if I
got to run forty yards, it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I will never tackle everybody. Yeah, forty yards they score.
Whoever has the ball that I'm running forty yards they score.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I gotta chase it. Man, You crazy If I don't
give them by the backfield the first five yards man like.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh man, hey, guys, taking a quick commercial break with
me right now. So here's the thing I've always found
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so interesting. Thirty one is very young. Like most people
are just beginning the good part of their career. You
are being told your career is done, no disrespect, we
don't want you. You're too old. But in actual life,
you are very very young. What does that do to
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your mental help to juggle those two.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You don't need to have to, you know what. I
just look at everything like from a football perspective. You
don't have time. You ain't got time to think. You
got to go, and so I just just hit the
ground running, man like what I need to do? What
do I like? I like to entertain. Let's shoot some videos, man,
Let's see what happens. So I remember talking to some
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of my teammates who were they were social media savvy.
I mean, they would take me coming to the locker
room and it'll just be me just being myself, Like
I'll be coming in singing, dancing, joking, laughing, doing all
that stuff. And in the midst of it being two
a days and it being hot. I was always the
guy still be like, y, we got two of days
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day this get it. So they'll be recording me and
they'd be like, oh, look at all the interaction it's
getting online. They're like people like this, people are like
your personality. And I was like, for real, I was like,
that's crazy. So I was like, and so you tweet
stuff and people judge you and one hundred and twenty
characters of lesson. I was like, that's stupid. That's the
dumbest thing I've heard my life. I'm not doing that.
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And they was like, bro, just try it, Bro, you
built for it. And I was like, so this is
Chris Harris and Earl Bennett, these guys. So these guys
are I'll be talking to Chris next thing, you know,
he'd be like hey, one second, turn around and we'd
be looking at ESPN. He on ESPN like giving an interview.
I'm like, what is going on, dude? Like So this
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dude was like he was all over the place and
he was showing me like this dog, you can do
the same thing, bro, just do that. And so I
was like, man, I'm gonna put together a video, bro,
And I called Chris. I showed him video. It was
you know, people was doing those videos like steph. White
people say stuff, Black people say stuff, fat people say
step skinny say. So I did one that was geared
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towards what I was going through stuff NFL Free Agency.
So I yeah, it was very It's like Korean's worthy now,
like because I edited myself, so I was like, like
watching it now, I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Gosh, that is so it's still funny.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, I'm saying the way it was edited, like he
got out, like the jump cuts and stuff like that.
You can see like it was it was badly done, man,
but it was It was a good video man. But
that's what kind of sparked everything because Chris Harrison all
my teammates, they was like, man, we see all of
this in the locker room, but nobody else really get
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a chance to see it. Man, So start putting your
videos out there.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And I was like, all right that so tell people
how you announce your retirement because that video also went viral.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, so when people do a retirement, like you think
about Shaq. Shaq did it in his house in Orlando.
He invited everybody out. He had a nice spread, it
was catered all these news trucks was outside. It was
Crazy pay Manning, same thing, Lebron James, same thing. So
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I was like, I'm about to make my own press conference,
dog because I know I ain't about to get no fanfare.
And I just so happened to be driving down the
street and I was like, it's a white castle right there.
Ace was in the car with me. Oh, wasn't the
baby and we had the baby. The baby at the
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time of Maya, I think was like two months, three
months something like that. And so I pulled into the
parking lot. I had on a suit and everything like
this was a full Flair's press conference. So I was like,
I'm gonna go inside and see what it looked like.
Because I know AC at the time, it was like
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we had to get everything gorilla style. Yeah, see, the
police are gonna come, come on please, Just so all
my videos back then was just like real quick had
to be precise because AC would be like, come on, please,
can we get out of the grocery store. They're gonna
arrest us. So we went in and I was like,
AC is empty, Like it's nobody in here. It's just
(25:43):
like Eastern decorations. And so I went in and we
shot the video for the White Castle. I put it
up and when I hit entered bro I promised. I
was like, shoot, that was cool. Man. I was like,
I'm done. I retired. Okay. Cool. So I walked into
the living room, come back in, and then ESPN Assignment
(26:07):
desk it's like, hey, can we talk about this on
the show, and so I was like, yeah, if y'all
want you, that's fine, and hit enter sent it back
to him and so next thing you know, I hear
Trey Wingo talking about it on the TV in the
other room, and I'm like, godles, I get up and
he's like, yeah, check out this cool video Spice Adams
(26:29):
did on retirement whatever or so I was like, dang,
that's what's up. So I go to check my email
again and now on Y'allhoo, like the main page it's
like Spice Adams, the greatest NFL free agent of all
time retires. I was like what, man, the main page
(26:50):
of Y'allhoo. I was like, da, this is crazy. And
it just it went viral quickly, man, and I didn't
know I had started.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
So at the time, were you ever on ESPN or playing?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Never? No? Like like the.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Defensive tackles, you know, are often unsung heroes. Your job
is to stop the run, plug up the gaps, but
you don't. You don't often designed, you know, or afford
the opportunity. You know, there's I don't know if Aaron
was Aaron Donald, a tackle.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Edge is defensive table.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, see, so that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Aaron Donald's a defensive tackle, Warren Sapps a defensive tackle,
Tommy Harris a defensive tackle. I'm a noseguard. It's just
different those guard. See now you even get just saying
it's like it sounds so stupid, Like it's like those
guys just how you saying it don't even sound like
a desirable type of position to play off the nose guard. Like,
(27:50):
so a nose guard is specifically out on the field
just to take on double teams, bro, just so the
linebackers can run free and the defensive acts can run free.
Like he's the person who.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Oh go you guys going out, me go ahead up.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
He's that guy that's the nose guard. And that's what
I did. And that's to play that position the way
that I played it, you got to be some type
of crazy dog, and I fit the bill so much
because I'm that guy. I'm the crazy guy that you
love to play with but hate to play against.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
That was me because I'm never gonna stop. You see me,
You see my face times I do. You can't miss
some Spice Adams face time. He won't. I mean he
I miss a Spice Adam's face time in like twenty twenty,
I was shooting a brand deal.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I remember that. I don't remember a lot of things.
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Man, and I didn't have my phone on me. It
is now as we shoot this, it is twenty twenty five.
If I, for whatever reason, it doesn't matter what I'm
doing funeral, if I'm a pilot, if I miss Spice
Adam's face time, be doing your big brand deal, your
big brand deal. Guy, got no time for Spice Adams.
(29:06):
You're just shooting your little videos. Must be nice. He
sometimes posts them on Instagram. He'll post a picture of
the miss call on Instagram. Oh, Spice Adams, I wanted
to see.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I want to see if you was gonna pick up. Okay, Okay,
you picked up. We're good because he would have done it. Okay,
So I want you to take me back to two
thousand and.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Seven, and I knew you had your phone close right here,
because I gotta have it in case Spice Adams calls.
I don't care if my wife that give me five seconds,
bab I got to I got to say, hey, Spice,
my child is being born. I gotta go. He'll let
you go, but you can't. You can't ignore. I will
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let you go.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I will.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah. So take me back in two thousand and seven.
You're having a great preseason the Bears. Your first regular
season game comes and you're, bitch, what what happens by us?
And how did you respond to it?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You know what if I was hoping that we couldn't
even get to that rug kim you Dog. I'm trying
to gather the words of like how frustrated I was. Dog.
(30:34):
I'm starting dog all preseason, dog all four games. I'm
starting balling. Okay, So I'm just gonna say names. Okay, listen, listen,
keep it resistants making it easier, all right? So, uh,
the Bears they drafted Dusty Devorcee, but he kept getting hurt.
(31:00):
They brought me in and when I got there, you know,
trying to start, I'm trying to play whatever d or that.
But they want Dusty to play, and Dusty's strong, he's fast,
he's quick, he's all those things.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
He was.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Him and Tommy Harris were legends at OU, but he
just kept getting hurt with us with the Bears. But
this particular year, he ended up getting hurt again in preseason,
so I was starting again, so he had got healthy.
First game of the year, So I'm starting all preseason dog,
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first game of the year. This is the Indianapolis coach.
This is I remember this because this was Matt Forte's
first game and this was the game where I'm like, bruh,
I just came over from forty nine ers. I'm starting.
Y'all could have had this. I'm starting. I know y'all
(31:57):
feel stupid. Watch this. Wat's what I do the first game,
first game we're playing against the coach Dog, I go
to I do my same routine I always. I don't
know that I'm not starting until the day of. Kevin
no the day of, so I'm going through everything I
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would normally do practice. Usually you can tell in practice
like dang, they really ain't using me today, so I
must not really be in the package, like I don't know.
Never got an inkling on that because at this time
I think this is a year five or six for me.
So now I recognize game. I understand everything. But anyways,
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I go over my my routine and I always do.
I'm in chapel praising the Lord. The last word I
said was Amen. Before hearing this news. I get a
tap on the shoulder. Amen. What's up, coach, coach Lovely Smith, Hey,
let me come Hollege. Oh you want to get some
extra prayer privately? Cool? He said, yeah, you and you're
(33:13):
not gonna start today. Say, okay, all right, So I'm
getting ready to walk away, like because this is this
end of the conversation. Anymore you can tell me than that,
Like I don't, I don't have nothing to say about it,
Like whatever he said. I oh, big guy, not only
(33:38):
are you not starting, you're not gonna play.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I'm scared. I'll say it again. I was starting all
pre season, first season. Come because they go into the
game with three different attackings, so they went with four.
Hollywould have played. But he said, not only are you
not starting, you're gonna be in acting. And I'm like,
what this is not what I said.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I was just like, do you even get dressed if
you're inactive.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, you get dressed in some clothes that aren't a
football uniform. It's like a track suit. So most of
the dudes you see on the track suits, some of
them are hurt, but some of them are absolutely healthy.
Oh no, And I was absolutely healthy. And I was like, yeah,
(34:35):
so bruh. But what I had to think about was
it wasn't the lack of my ability. It wasn't that
I wasn't killing it. It wasn't that I wasn't working
hard or whatever. It's just they like who they like. Man,
it don't you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But like, how do you do that? Though?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Like you got like you choose different people for a churchy, right, yeah,
you might not get to some people that you may want.
Like you know what I mean. They don't mean they're
not funny.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It's just like, hey, I want this particular people to
be in churchy. No offense to what you're doing or whatever,
but these are the particular people that I want. And
so that's what coaches do when they come in. And
I had to understand that, like, hey man, this is
the guy that they drafted. They want him to play.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
But did you ever I mean, as an athlete, you
have to have supreme belief in yourself. Do you ever
be not playing watching somebody and be like, come mom, bro.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah all the time. I'm gonna tell him this stuff too,
because he'd be like, oh, come on, you gotta make
that sack. I was like, hey, are you kidding me?
You know what I mean? Times I said that watching
your game, I was like, you better watch your mouth.
What are you crazy? You better not ever say that
about none of these athletes out here. You crazy by
as much your mama be screaming at you to get
(35:57):
the sacks and do you do it? So why are
you screaming it like they can hear you? I was like,
it worked, It worked both ways. But when I was
telling I was like, how I lasted for nine years?
Cause it's one thing to get to the NFL, but
it's another thing to have some stand power. And I
(36:19):
was like, man, what I did was when I got
in my stands, I was the baddest mofo out there.
In my head. Now you can press play and we
can see what the play like. But in my head
before the play started, I'm bad at one out there,
but when you press play, you get what you get.
(36:40):
But that was my mentality, So I don't have no regrets.
And like my back hurt and my fingers all looked like.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Your finger and you got that big scar on your
other hand.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah. So I broke this ninety five when I was fifteen,
and I was out for like a week. That's that
was me. Bro. I didn't like to mispractice.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I don't like seriously only off for a week.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, they put the caves on and then I.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Was like, oh, I thought you were being funny.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
No, we're just going to the playoffs. Martin Luther King
High School. He was going to playoffs, so I had
to play.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Oh my god, bro, so we we.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Like condition to like blockout game. Bro, Like I play.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Hands, you can't do regular stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I'm losing power and I'm losing strength in them because
but I've been doing this for eighteen years. Like they
just like you know what I mean, Like they set
for grabbing. Like so I wish I could show you
if I put my hands on a flat surface, I
can't push my fingers down flat they.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Are just they're all just crunch crunched up.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah. Yeah, just and it takes a minute.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
You you're trying to get under that jersey.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Hey man, you didn't have to say that. It's a
lot to get up under all of this. Man, you
know what I'm saying. So it took me a while
to put up. That's why I got there early, so
I can get all the kinks out the way. I
get all the kinks out the way, man, you know
what I'm saying. So I always wanted to be there early,
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and I got the hot till cold tell me and stuff,
got myself together because when you think about a dog,
I love it. All these dudes are six five sixty four,
So day, what step is my two to three? I'm
five eleven point eight official combine records, five eleven point eight.
Everybody in the league is six two six three and up.
(38:34):
You know what I'm saying. I'm like this every day
of my life. But the low man wins. So you
gotta come down here to see me where I'm already at.
This is my this is my livelihood, this is where
I be so gold line. Ah, you cult, bro, touch blush?
Would you a stop the touch blush?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
It would it would never exist. The Eagles right down
will be like, we can't get it. We can't do
it with Spice, Kevin on the stage, I'm looking at
It would not exist, dog, I'm telling you Goldland. Put
(39:14):
on any film.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I'm like, dog, pull it up, pull on any me
on the gold Line, different animal.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Man, Toush Bush.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
It wouldn't exist. It wouldn't exist. If I was out there,
I'm camp can look, dog, I got goosebumps. Dog, do
you see it? I see I'm not playing. It would
not exist.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I wish we had a type of machine man prime
Spice versus a Tousch bush Man. I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Hey, guys, taking a quick commercial break will be right now.
(40:11):
So okay, so answer me this fie. Now. I don't
know if this is the case. I've heard NFL players
they get paid game chats, right, your salaries divided by
you know, sixteen or seventeen whatever it is sixteen at time, yeah, sixteen,
now seventeen, so you know, and it's a lot of money.
But it stops quickly, and then you realize in less
(40:38):
than a calendar year it has it is going to stop.
Now you've got to go out on a job interview
something you haven't done in your life. Maybe, so you
go to the Big ten network and let's just say
it doesn't go well. Oh you tell us, you tell
us how it wins.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
By KAV. Not going well is a good like that's found.
I would like to see the tape. Actually I wouldn't
burn it. I guess you can't learn from it, do it?
(41:19):
I CAV. I'm I still got dirt in my fingernails,
still got dirt in my fingernails from being out on
the field, you know what I'm saying. And so they like, hey, look,
we know you just retired, but we want you to
(41:40):
come in. We want you to just do a tryout.
We're just gonna put you into a situation where you
talk about this game. We want you to watch the
Ohio State in Indiana game, and we want you to
come up with three key plays of the game. I'm like,
all right, cool, I'm comfortable enough where I can sit
(42:00):
at the desk and talk to you about the plays
that I think are like the pivotal moments. So they
give me the c D to watch. So I get
the CD and I'm watching the game and I located
three plays. They like, all right, put the time step
down in three plays. Boom, do the time step Okay,
(42:23):
I'm on these three plays. Cool boom, We got them,
we'll queue them up. We'll let you see the plays.
We'll let you see how you need to talk over
room whatever, blah blah blah, you got your notes talk
about yeah, cool boom. So so Mike Hall, who still
works there now, he was on the he was at
(42:44):
the desk, so I see him. Hey, what's up. What's
going on?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Man?
Speaker 1 (42:48):
You ready to do this? Yeah? Boom, let's let's get it.
So they showed me where all the cameras are. This
is camera one's camera two. You're gonna be on this
camera whatever, and I'm like, okay, But at the same time,
I got an IFB on. So somebody's talking to my spice.
Good yep, yeah, I'm good. Just know when you're on here,
don't talk to me because you know you're gonna be
(43:12):
live on air. Oh okay, so don't talk to you
as you're talking to me as I'm supposed to be
talking or listening to Mike. Okay, yeah, got it. Boom
in these cameras right, yeah, Mike three two? Mike already
counting down like I'm like, damn okay, faster than up.
You're like, hey, Mike called Big ten networks. Fie, take
(43:33):
it away? What take it away? Take it away to where? Mike?
Where is so in Ohio State? Mind you care? It's
going like they're playing the place already, like and I'm
(43:55):
still like the cameras cut back on me. I'm like this,
So Ohio State. They was rushing the ball, and Beanie
Wells he was killing that game. He had like he
had like two forty against them boys. And then but
that's how I'm reading this. They went to a whole
nother game. No, so a whole other game is playing.
(44:16):
I'm still talking about Ohio State's offense. It has switched
over to Indiana, but I'm still talking about in Ohio
State need to get it together, don't you think, Mike.
I'm trying to add Mike in where don't you think, Mike?
They need to be on here too, man, that's crazy.
So going to the next play, it's care the videos off.
(44:40):
Going to the next play, Ohio State right here on
the thirty two yard line, as you can see right there,
it is the thirty two yard line. They only get
two yards where they really mighty. All they needed was
two yards, So videos off. I still got one more
play to though, And so after that, Mike is like, so,
(45:06):
tell me about produced quarterback. The producer said, Ohio State,
Indiana game produced quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
What what do you do?
Speaker 1 (45:29):
So I just kind of like make some stuff up,
bro like, and it was just it was bad. And
he just kept going. So tell me about Northwestern, like
the offensive coordinator. Like, listen, dog, I just played in
the NFL. I can tell you anything you want to
know about being Roethlisberger. I got notes, bro, like, I
took notes because we played them multiple times. I got
(45:50):
notes on Roethlisberger. I got notes on Aaron Rodgers. I
got notes on NFL quarterbacks, college quarterbacks. I'm gonna need
you to relate. This is what I want to say
to him, Like, Mike, I'm really trying to I got
folk kids, bro for them. I just had a girl
like just she fresh out. Okay, so they y'all said,
(46:13):
Ohio State Indiana. Okay, stop talking to me about Purdue
and or Northwestern and Indiana or any other the Big
ten teams. Stick to what the producer said. He said,
Ohio State in Indiana, That's what I wanted to say,
but if you find the tape, bro, like Quentin, Quentin
(46:37):
is the producer that at Dicten't network. If he find
the tape, burn it.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
It's so funny because like now you're on TV, you
hosted the baking show, you podcast with Shack, your own productions.
But let you tell him, this would have never been
a thing for you. Like, I just love that you
start off a little rough, but man, you built like
a whole second career. Actually, it seems like your media
(47:06):
career has been longer than your NFL career.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Now, dang, you're right. Yeah, yeah, it's getting it is
getting close. Man, it's going on like thirteen years bro. Yeah,
I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, because I've known about you for at
least ten Yo.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
That Needa Baker is hilarious, Yeah that is.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
You're the reason why, you're the reason that the black
community is mad. I've forgotten this, how this began?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Are you gonna put it on me?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Absolutely? I'm putting it.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
On you know, don't spend this before we let Spice go.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Let me tell you how he destroyed my life. Oh
my gosh, no, no, stay here. One of Spice's recurring
funny videos. He would put people falling or making mistakes,
and he would put I didn't know that sound underneath
(48:07):
the videos. I did not know who sang that song.
So me and my wife were at home. This is
years ago, man, this is maybe two thoy sixteen seventeen.
A while ago. My wife plays a need A Baker's song.
I'm like, oh, that's the that's the Spice Adam sound.
(48:29):
She turns off the music. That's the what that's the
sounds Spice Adam us all the time in his videos.
She was like, you don't know to say it again.
She's like, you don't know where that sounds from. I
was like, yeah, I told you Spice Adams. I want
to show you one of his videos. He just posted
one like two days ago.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
She smacked that phone.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
She's like, you don't know Anita Baker and I'm like no.
Instantly she makes a post on Facebook. Man, I can't
believe I married somebody who didn't grow up with a
need A Baker. So I went public with it. I
was like, y'all, I told you I'm a church kid.
I didn't know well when I tell you, they didn't
want to hear it. There's no excuse in the black
(49:13):
community period for not going it. It's the reason my
children know who she is now. I make sure not
only to play her music, but to let her know. Hey, y'all,
these sounds, these songs are need a baker. It's called
good parenting, called you're black. It depends on did.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Just use the power or have you? Have you been
using them? I just I just like to check stuff go. Man, Hey, man, y'all,
I just want you to do better.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
I'm gonna let you, Spice go, but let me tell
you this. I hurt my shoulder. This is during the pandemic.
Spice sent me some power dot electro magnetic therapy. I
used them like once or twice and lied about how
much I used it for another year or two.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I'm glad you said you like. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Spice will not let it go. Price doesn't let anything go. Actually,
if you are lucky enough to be his friend, your
life will be full of humor and things that he
will continue to remind you.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Look at my face, dude, this is me ninety percent
of the time. Dude.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Absolutely all right, Spikes, we're gonna let you get out
of here before we do tell people where they can
find you, what you're working on, how they can become
more engulfed in a Spice Adams world.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Oh man, Spice Atoms everywhere. Man, Spice Adams dot Com
at Spice Adams everywhere. Man, just come, I'll let you
boy man, he's gonna make them be on church and three.
I got you in my notes of actors to use.
And I'm gonna tell you I'm being a hospital part
two me and CP i'mna be dead on the other
thing like this's gonna be eat Cheetos, I'm a snumber.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Call you for the next season. Let us get the
next season. I'm gonna call you spot letting, Gentlemen's been
not my best moment with Spice Atoms. Hope you learned something,
Hope you got something new. Ould amazing time and we's
seen next week.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Oh sh sh.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
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Moment was produced by iHeart Podcasts and Unanimous Media. It
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Sean ty Tone and Jason English. This series was produced
(51:41):
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Speaker 1 (52:00):
H
Mike three two. Mike already call him down like I'm like,
damn okay, faster than money, Like, hey, Mike Hall, Big
ten networks fights? Take it away? What take it away?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What up? Y'all? Welcome to Not My Best MoMA with
me kep on stage, author of Successful Failure. In this book,
I talk about all the times I failed, and this
podcast I talk with people who are like me, who
failed and succeeded. But we're not here for their highlights.
(00:47):
You know all that. You know Spice Adams went to
Penn State. He's Omega sci Fi. He was drafted by
the San Francisco forty nine ers in the second round
of the two thousand and three draft. You that he
played in the NFL for nine years when the averages
three to four years. You know, he won or he
was nominated for Sports Emmy in twenty fourteen. You know,
(01:08):
he co founded No Planned Productions. He's been a ballers
man of the People's CSI on Trial. He co hosted
The Great American Baking Show for three seasons. You know
all that. We're not here to talk about that. We're
here to talk about his losses. Ladies and gentlemen, please
welcome to the stage, Anthony Spice.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Adams cut up, man.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I want you to you're at home.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
How you doing, Spike, Man, I'm doing well, man. How
about you? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You the man I'm trying to get like I ain't
talking to you. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, man, we all here grinding, man, I'm out here,
you know, taking care of the fan. Are volunteer culture man?
This guy?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah yeah, y'all don't know, Spice. His home is so
large in Illinois, has his own zip code. You there's
a gate, a security gate. You have to enter the
county that his house is in. And his house is
in his own county as well. It's called Adams County, Illinois.
It's it's off the grid. You won't find it on
a map. It's a secret thing. No flies on all
(02:10):
kinds of stuff. Before we talk about your failure, Spies,
one of your successes that I have loved to watch.
Your son is quite the football player. What are you
feeling as a father? I know you you try to
temper expectations when it comes to him, and I know
people always calling you talking about the league and all
that stuff. But just as a father who's who's been
(02:32):
in the NFL, but has now been able to be
a part of his football and track journey. What what
are you.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Feeling, man, keV. I'm sorry to do this to you. Man.
Can we keep it real? Yes, all right, I'm gonna
keep it real.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Keep it real.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
My dad went to prison when I was four. I
know it's supposed to be like a fun show and
stuff like that, but keep it real. My dad went
to prison when I was four. My mom did a
good job of like not like bad mouthing him and
stuff like that, so I didn't grow up resenting him
and things like that. But with that being said, he
(03:14):
was never at any of my games like high school college.
I got them tickets to the Lion's game when he
was because he couldn't leave a state of Michigan, and
that was the first game he went to. But at
that time, I was like thirty, so I know what
it's like to look up in the stands and know
(03:35):
for a fact that your dad is not going to
be there. And so when it comes to my son,
he will never know what that feels like. And I
try to make sure that because I volunteer coach, so
I'm at every practice, I'm at every game, I'm waking
them up every morning, and I'm just like, I'm just
(03:56):
motivating them every day, bro, because I know what it's
like to be on this r and like it was
just me and my mama. My mama don't know nothing
about no football. She don't know nothing about punching nobody
in the face. So I gotta figure all this stuff out,
you know what I'm saying. And I had to figure
it out without the help of having a dad in
my corner. And so now I know how important my
(04:18):
role is. And so that's why I'm just like, I'm
just pouring everything i can into him. And we played
the same position, play defensive tackle, so I'm like, do
your hand placement gotta be here. I was like, when
we watched take in the NFL, you might spend three
minutes on this movement. That's it. Like he's rewinding the
(04:42):
tape and you're like, what are you thinking. I'm like,
I don't know, Like, can you just play it so
I can tell you, like this is all you watching.
It's very detailed. So I'm like, bro, I'm not gonna
talk to you like you know boy, because I'm not
raising no boy. I'm raising a man. So I'm gonna
talk to you like a man. Get ready, and so
I just I don't sugarcoat nothing, man. And that's where
(05:04):
I am with him. Man, Just to answer your question.
But I wanted to be real.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, I appreciate that. You know, I'm watching, you know,
he to me and I'm not a scout and I
you know, I believe it or not, didn't play in
the NFL. No, nor was I closeout And actually yeah,
my coach, I mean we were.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
We were just running forward my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, it was really my coaches tripping. He was hating
on me. Otherwise I probably would have started. But that's
neither here nor there. We're not talking about me. But
if I were a collegiate coach, I'd have some interest
in Baby Spice. I'd be looking at him. He seemed
to be very disruptive to me and his followers. You know,
(05:48):
he probably got the leg up of a nine year
vet teaching him. Here. Here, you got to you got
to hear and you got to rip. Okay, you got
to hear and you got to rip.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, you know. Yeah, man, it's just different this day
and age like, and it's tougher for high school athletes
to get that scholarship man or the scholarship that they
want because you have nil deals. So who are getting
millions of dollars through the NFL? I mean nil deals?
(06:21):
And then now it's like you have the JUCO now,
so now you can go to a junior college for
two years and still be able to do it enroll
in college as a freshman, you know what I'm saying. Like,
so you could be twenty one years old, married with
two kids and go up against a seventeen year old
(06:43):
freshot high school.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
True true freshman is gonna take on an even more
different term moving forward, because true freshmen usually just meant
you were in high school. Last year, you didn red
shirt and it was very rare for a true freshman
to play. Now you got you know, you got two years.
You could be a four year starter with six years
(07:05):
of football experience. Yep. That is a man with a
family against somebody who had chocolate milk for lunch last year.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Like no, And then I haven't even mentioned the transfer.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Port and then you got the portal going, so.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know what I'm saying. So if you are a
all Americans, say you an academic all American and like
you like their draft status that's going up. You just
won the national championship, but you still want more. But
you're like, man, I'm gonna enter myself in the transfer
portal just because I don't like the coach or just
because they're offering me a higher nil deal. Absolutely other school,
(07:42):
you know what I'm saying, Like the these are with
these kids are thinking about and I think like in college,
they're treating these amateurs like their pros because a lot
of these kids are making more money than them and
they pulling up in a Bentley while the coach is
pulling up in the honddu Corps.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But we gonna get to your store. I want to
say this one last thing. I was watching this Netflix
show on the SEC and Brian Kelly, who's the coach
of LSU, he was on the phone with Garrett Knutsmyer's agent.
They share the same agent. They said. He told the agent,
if he doesn't go in the first or second round,
he's gonna make more money in college this year than
(08:20):
he would backing up somebody in the NFL. That did
not used to be the case back in the day.
There was all kinds of conflicts of interest. But yes,
so kudos to your son. Shout out to him. Hope
to see him playing Division one or any football wherever
he goes. He's a good kid. From what I learned,
he's a good kid. Now, let's talk about you, Spice.
If you don't know, I found out about Spice Adams
(08:44):
the content creator first because of your retirement video. Right.
I'm not a huge Sporting Owners fan or Bears fan,
so I didn't know Spice the player I was introducing
to you in your retirement. Tell the people your first
failure and that failure, you know, being like the end
(09:05):
of your NFL career began your second career and for
what most people know you from it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
To me, Yeah, So I got released and I was
not expecting to get released because I had a year
left on my deal. And so I was at Disney
World when I got released with my family and I
remember this sister. Was February, and I got a call
from Coach Smith, coach Lovely Smith, and I'm like in February, like,
(09:34):
so I see the first ring and I'm like, no, man,
that's a Lovely Smith. Like we on the bus, the
kids is looking at Vicky Mas. You know that you
ride on the Magic Express and they got the cartoons
up on the on the screen and the kids slapping
my Disney World, Disney World. I'm looking at like, why
is Lovely calling me? I'm like in February. I'm like, dog,
(09:57):
he trying to win the Super Bowl early. He called
me in February because I'm being part of the plans.
Who you talk about respect? So I'm like, all this
is going on my head long. Let let me answer this.
I'm like, hello, what's up. He's like, yeah, big guy,
We're gonna let you go. I said, where are we going, coach?
(10:18):
Where you're gonna let me go? You let me go
wild in this defense? Right this defense you're about to
draw up, I'm about to go crazy. Hello. Hello, He's like, yeah,
we're gonna We're gonna let you go. You know, we
appreciate everything you did for the Chicago Burds. And so
(10:40):
after he hit me up, then the defensive coordinator hit
me up, the D line coach hit me up, the
dB coach hit me up. So that's a that's a
huge sign of respect because a lot of people find
to stay and say, hey man, sorry, you know, it
was a numbers game. We appreciate how hard you work.
You a leader, has nothing to do with your athletic
(11:03):
ability or you know how, or you being a hard
work like all the coach all the coach talk, and
so that's a sign of respect. Because most people find
out they got released, like on ESPN, like the bottom
line ticker and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, so wait, how look before we go onto your
content creator career, how old were you at this time when.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I got released? Yeah, I would think thirty thirty one.
I'm thirty one.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Okay, So this is a very interesting thing to me
with professional athletes. You played football high school, at minimum
high school, college, NFL eighteen years told, eighteen years, this
has been one of the main things in your life.
Usually they say people go to the NFL were one of,
(11:54):
if not the best player on their team for a
large portion of their life. You are on vacation and
you plan to be in the NFL the next season. Yes,
What is it like when you realize and you're not.
Your contract's not over. I mean we all kind of
know the NFL's like no guaranteed contracts, but you had
(12:15):
no reason to believe you were not going to be
in the NFL that that year. What is your mental
state at when you got to sit with that news
and then when you realize, oh my my career is over.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So watch this, Keff. This was the first day of
the trip. Oh no, keV, I'm just getting off the plane.
I'm still like complaining about how much how big my
souldier strap was on the book bag.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Like god, dog, Oh no.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I'm still on that phase getting this news. So I'm like,
I ain't even Gutite was talking about agent. So I'm like, dang,
so I called my agent, Like, dog, I just got released.
I still want to play. Can we find out somewhere
else to play? Hey? Hey, hey, enjoy Nikki, enjoy me.
(13:12):
Daddy's getting released. Dadd's getting released. Yeah, So I don't know, man,
I think Carolina Runner four to three off the top
of my head. Maybe Tampa Bay. I don't know. Can
you look into some of those teams? Maybe? I don't know, man,
Like it's literally just happened, and so I'm not even
thinking about never playing again, Like I'm I want to
(13:36):
play fifteen years. Yeah, That's what I'm telling myself like that.
When I came in here my first year, I was like, man,
I could play twenty years. Man, second year, I was
like maybe fifteen fifteen. Third year, I was like, I
see why the average is three years. I see it,
(13:57):
I feel it, I understand it. Yeah, and I just
every year after that, I was like, thank you, God,
thank you for blessing me for another year. Year five, God,
you're six. It's like to me, if I signed a
three year deal, that's three one year deals. That's how
I that's how I have to look at it. That's
(14:17):
that's to keep myself, like to work hard, because as
soon as you get drafted whatever, soon as you go
in there, like it's a revolving door. Like if they
don't care how good you are, whatever, they're gonna draft
another defensive tackle who's younger, cheaper, and you know, and
you gotta show them the ropes. And you're gonna end
(14:38):
up showing them the ropes because you're gonna you're gonna
bust your butt every day and so but the people
that's behind you, they're gonna do the same thing, but
they're gonna be younger and they can be cheaper.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
So wait, so so okay, so when did you know
you weren't gonna play again?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So okay, yeah, so after you get released, I got release,
so I got a bunch of time to try to
get onto another team. So March come by, and March
is like the huge free agency deal, right, and so
that comes and goes. It's the first wave where people, man,
(15:16):
what's the camp got two hundred million dollars. He'd be like, dang,
that's what's up. He played the same position as you.
I know, I know ye. So you go through all
of that talk, you go through March, nothing, and you
go through the first wave of free agency, second wave,
third wave nothing. Then you get to April and it's
(15:39):
like not a draft is coming up. It's like now
you're looking at the young guys and who's gonna get
traded whatever, So then make them up. But at that
after all these months going by, you gotta stay in shape.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You gotta say, you gotta stay.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Running, you gotta stay lifting way and that costs money,
so oh dang, yeah, Like if you want to go
use somebody's facility and they're eight and stuff like that,
and a personal trainer, that could be like three hundred
dollars a day, a day a day. So you start
looking at but you know you got money coming in, right,
so you but now the money has stopped because you
(16:15):
just got released. So now you're working out and then
you know, at the end of the month, you're like, hey,
this bill right here, let's say three thousand dollars, bro,
like just just for the for the what money, you
know what I mean? And so you like you start
seeing all this money going out but not really coming
back in. So now you start to think, like, hey, bro,
(16:37):
I got four kids. Now I just had a daughter,
like fresh out, fresh out, Yeah see fresh out bro,
Like bruh. And I'm like, okay, I gotta make this work.
I got like as soon as my eyes open, I'm
responsible for six pep and I don't have any income
coming in. And so it's like you start, as every
(16:57):
month go by, you gotta make the decision do you
keep chasing this dream? Because what if Seattle Seahawks called
and you gotta Now, you gotta uproot your family to
go to Seattle. And that's not a guarantee I can
play in Seattle. And like, let's just say so, it
(17:19):
gets to a point where you start waiting for injuries
like that and that's the worst and I hated that,
But you gotta wait for somebody to get injured in
order for somebody to call you and say, hey, we
want you to come, And then that's not even guaranteed.
They may call three people and say I want you
all to battle it out. Who's gonna be the fastest,
who are gonna do two twenty five the most? And
(17:41):
so they have a whole combine there. So you will
get there. Oh I gotta work out with the Baltimore Ravens.
You will get there and you see in Dominicants suit
there and you're like, why is why is suit here? Bro?
I mean it wouldn't being Dominican suit, but you know,
(18:04):
you know that you just seen got a Pro Bowl
and like you be like, hey Holmes.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You here too, I'm asking him is he here?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Looking at him?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You here?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Not bruh. And so you get to the point where
you like, okay, I could come in for an injured
defensive tackle and play lights out on that. Once he
gets better, you out of there. So I uprooted my
family to come out to Seattle and say, all right,
things are going where I've been starting off for three
weeks and okay, now it was time to look for
(18:39):
schools and stuff like that. You can come out here
being the kids out here, and we're good. I found
us a house. We straight, I just rented it out.
We're gonna play. We're gonna pay this much. Get the movers,
we get the cars shipped out. Boom, this is the
school the kids gonna go to. I already talked to
some of the wives, some of the players. Whatever. Blah
blah blah. Boom that happened. Family, come out and get
(18:59):
the is en rolled in school. Oh boy, he ready?
Now he good to go. Huh y'all said he was
gonna be out for four weeks. It's two weeks. It's miraculous,
a miracle that happen. Huh. Hell were good. Yeah, So
we don't need your services no more. Man, appreciate it, man,
bring the playbook. You worked hard. We appreciate you. Man,
all right, I don't I don't want that to happen
(19:24):
to my family, and it happens every day. And so
it's like, let me create a budget. Let me. I
never was like really frivolous like that with my money anyway,
So it was like, let me scrape up something where
I could get like at least three years until I
can figure this thing out insto what I want to
do next. But this is like all the thoughts you
(19:46):
have to think by for me at least September October
because I'm a big dude. Man, I can only work
out so much. Man, the food wud be good and
I got money now, so it's like I can go
get what I want. I'm still ain't a wait, but
I'm still like working out and I'm just like kind
of just like fooling myself when I look in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, I should be straight, man, They still should want me,
you know, when I get there whatever whatever the you know,
metabolism made the same, you know, and it's just like
you got to make a decision, bro.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like I'm I can't go to Oakland Raiders at the
time and they want me to work out. I can't
risk tearing my handscreen, you know what I'm saying. Like,
I'm not about to run up total tape on them.
I'm about to run up forty for what if I
got to run forty yards, it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I will never tackle everybody. Yeah, forty yards they score.
Whoever has the ball that I'm running forty yards they score.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I gotta chase it. Man, You crazy If I don't
give them by the backfield the first five yards man like.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh man, hey, guys, taking a quick commercial break with
me right now. So here's the thing I've always found
(21:17):
so interesting. Thirty one is very young. Like most people
are just beginning the good part of their career. You
are being told your career is done, no disrespect, we
don't want you. You're too old. But in actual life,
you are very very young. What does that do to
(21:38):
your mental help to juggle those two.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You don't need to have to, you know what. I
just look at everything like from a football perspective. You
don't have time. You ain't got time to think. You
got to go, and so I just just hit the
ground running, man like what I need to do? What
do I like? I like to entertain. Let's shoot some videos, man,
Let's see what happens. So I remember talking to some
(22:03):
of my teammates who were they were social media savvy.
I mean, they would take me coming to the locker
room and it'll just be me just being myself, Like
I'll be coming in singing, dancing, joking, laughing, doing all
that stuff. And in the midst of it being two
a days and it being hot. I was always the
guy still be like, y, we got two of days
(22:26):
day this get it. So they'll be recording me and
they'd be like, oh, look at all the interaction it's
getting online. They're like people like this, people are like
your personality. And I was like, for real, I was like,
that's crazy. So I was like, and so you tweet
stuff and people judge you and one hundred and twenty
characters of lesson. I was like, that's stupid. That's the
dumbest thing I've heard my life. I'm not doing that.
(22:48):
And they was like, bro, just try it, Bro, you
built for it. And I was like, so this is
Chris Harris and Earl Bennett, these guys. So these guys
are I'll be talking to Chris next thing, you know,
he'd be like hey, one second, turn around and we'd
be looking at ESPN. He on ESPN like giving an interview.
I'm like, what is going on, dude? Like So this
(23:08):
dude was like he was all over the place and
he was showing me like this dog, you can do
the same thing, bro, just do that. And so I
was like, man, I'm gonna put together a video, bro,
And I called Chris. I showed him video. It was
you know, people was doing those videos like steph. White
people say stuff, Black people say stuff, fat people say
step skinny say. So I did one that was geared
(23:29):
towards what I was going through stuff NFL Free Agency.
So I yeah, it was very It's like Korean's worthy now,
like because I edited myself, so I was like, like
watching it now, I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Gosh, that is so it's still funny.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, I'm saying the way it was edited, like he
got out, like the jump cuts and stuff like that.
You can see like it was it was badly done, man,
but it was It was a good video man. But
that's what kind of sparked everything because Chris Harrison all
my teammates, they was like, man, we see all of
this in the locker room, but nobody else really get
(24:07):
a chance to see it. Man, So start putting your
videos out there.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And I was like, all right that so tell people
how you announce your retirement because that video also went viral.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, so when people do a retirement, like you think
about Shaq. Shaq did it in his house in Orlando.
He invited everybody out. He had a nice spread, it
was catered all these news trucks was outside. It was
Crazy pay Manning, same thing, Lebron James, same thing. So
(24:39):
I was like, I'm about to make my own press conference,
dog because I know I ain't about to get no fanfare.
And I just so happened to be driving down the
street and I was like, it's a white castle right there.
Ace was in the car with me. Oh, wasn't the
baby and we had the baby. The baby at the
(25:00):
time of Maya, I think was like two months, three
months something like that. And so I pulled into the
parking lot. I had on a suit and everything like
this was a full Flair's press conference. So I was like,
I'm gonna go inside and see what it looked like.
Because I know AC at the time, it was like
(25:21):
we had to get everything gorilla style. Yeah, see, the
police are gonna come, come on please, Just so all
my videos back then was just like real quick had
to be precise because AC would be like, come on, please,
can we get out of the grocery store. They're gonna
arrest us. So we went in and I was like,
AC is empty, Like it's nobody in here. It's just
(25:43):
like Eastern decorations. And so I went in and we
shot the video for the White Castle. I put it
up and when I hit entered bro I promised. I
was like, shoot, that was cool. Man. I was like,
I'm done. I retired. Okay. Cool. So I walked into
the living room, come back in, and then ESPN Assignment
(26:07):
desk it's like, hey, can we talk about this on
the show, and so I was like, yeah, if y'all
want you, that's fine, and hit enter sent it back
to him and so next thing you know, I hear
Trey Wingo talking about it on the TV in the
other room, and I'm like, godles, I get up and
he's like, yeah, check out this cool video Spice Adams
(26:29):
did on retirement whatever or so I was like, dang,
that's what's up. So I go to check my email
again and now on Y'allhoo, like the main page it's
like Spice Adams, the greatest NFL free agent of all
time retires. I was like what, man, the main page
(26:50):
of Y'allhoo. I was like, da, this is crazy. And
it just it went viral quickly, man, and I didn't
know I had started.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
So at the time, were you ever on ESPN or playing?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Never? No? Like like the.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Defensive tackles, you know, are often unsung heroes. Your job
is to stop the run, plug up the gaps, but
you don't. You don't often designed, you know, or afford
the opportunity. You know, there's I don't know if Aaron
was Aaron Donald, a tackle.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Edge is defensive table.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, see, so that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Aaron Donald's a defensive tackle, Warren Sapps a defensive tackle,
Tommy Harris a defensive tackle. I'm a noseguard. It's just
different those guard. See now you even get just saying
it's like it sounds so stupid, Like it's like those
guys just how you saying it don't even sound like
a desirable type of position to play off the nose guard. Like,
(27:50):
so a nose guard is specifically out on the field
just to take on double teams, bro, just so the
linebackers can run free and the defensive acts can run free.
Like he's the person who.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Oh go you guys going out, me go ahead up.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
He's that guy that's the nose guard. And that's what
I did. And that's to play that position the way
that I played it, you got to be some type
of crazy dog, and I fit the bill so much
because I'm that guy. I'm the crazy guy that you
love to play with but hate to play against.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
That was me because I'm never gonna stop. You see me,
You see my face times I do. You can't miss
some Spice Adams face time. He won't. I mean he
I miss a Spice Adam's face time in like twenty twenty,
I was shooting a brand deal.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I remember that. I don't remember a lot of things.
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Man, and I didn't have my phone on me. It
is now as we shoot this, it is twenty twenty five.
If I, for whatever reason, it doesn't matter what I'm
doing funeral, if I'm a pilot, if I miss Spice
Adam's face time, be doing your big brand deal, your
big brand deal. Guy, got no time for Spice Adams.
(29:06):
You're just shooting your little videos. Must be nice. He
sometimes posts them on Instagram. He'll post a picture of
the miss call on Instagram. Oh, Spice Adams, I wanted
to see.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I want to see if you was gonna pick up. Okay, Okay,
you picked up. We're good because he would have done it. Okay,
So I want you to take me back to two
thousand and.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Seven, and I knew you had your phone close right here,
because I gotta have it in case Spice Adams calls.
I don't care if my wife that give me five seconds,
bab I got to I got to say, hey, Spice,
my child is being born. I gotta go. He'll let
you go, but you can't. You can't ignore. I will
(29:52):
let you go.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I will.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah. So take me back in two thousand and seven.
You're having a great preseason the Bears. Your first regular
season game comes and you're, bitch, what what happens by us?
And how did you respond to it?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You know what if I was hoping that we couldn't
even get to that rug kim you Dog. I'm trying
to gather the words of like how frustrated I was. Dog.
(30:34):
I'm starting dog all preseason, dog all four games. I'm
starting balling. Okay, So I'm just gonna say names. Okay, listen, listen,
keep it resistants making it easier, all right? So, uh,
the Bears they drafted Dusty Devorcee, but he kept getting hurt.
(31:00):
They brought me in and when I got there, you know,
trying to start, I'm trying to play whatever d or that.
But they want Dusty to play, and Dusty's strong, he's fast,
he's quick, he's all those things.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
He was.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Him and Tommy Harris were legends at OU, but he
just kept getting hurt with us with the Bears. But
this particular year, he ended up getting hurt again in preseason,
so I was starting again, so he had got healthy.
First game of the year, So I'm starting all preseason dog,
(31:37):
first game of the year. This is the Indianapolis coach.
This is I remember this because this was Matt Forte's
first game and this was the game where I'm like, bruh,
I just came over from forty nine ers. I'm starting.
Y'all could have had this. I'm starting. I know y'all
(31:57):
feel stupid. Watch this. Wat's what I do the first game,
first game we're playing against the coach Dog, I go
to I do my same routine I always. I don't
know that I'm not starting until the day of. Kevin
no the day of, so I'm going through everything I
(32:23):
would normally do practice. Usually you can tell in practice
like dang, they really ain't using me today, so I
must not really be in the package, like I don't know.
Never got an inkling on that because at this time
I think this is a year five or six for me.
So now I recognize game. I understand everything. But anyways,
(32:46):
I go over my my routine and I always do.
I'm in chapel praising the Lord. The last word I
said was Amen. Before hearing this news. I get a
tap on the shoulder. Amen. What's up, coach, coach Lovely Smith, Hey,
let me come Hollege. Oh you want to get some
extra prayer privately? Cool? He said, yeah, you and you're
(33:13):
not gonna start today. Say, okay, all right, So I'm
getting ready to walk away, like because this is this
end of the conversation. Anymore you can tell me than that,
Like I don't, I don't have nothing to say about it,
Like whatever he said. I oh, big guy, not only
(33:38):
are you not starting, you're not gonna play.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I'm scared. I'll say it again. I was starting all
pre season, first season. Come because they go into the
game with three different attackings, so they went with four.
Hollywould have played. But he said, not only are you
not starting, you're gonna be in acting. And I'm like,
what this is not what I said.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I was just like, do you even get dressed if
you're inactive.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, you get dressed in some clothes that aren't a
football uniform. It's like a track suit. So most of
the dudes you see on the track suits, some of
them are hurt, but some of them are absolutely healthy.
Oh no, And I was absolutely healthy. And I was like, yeah,
(34:35):
so bruh. But what I had to think about was
it wasn't the lack of my ability. It wasn't that
I wasn't killing it. It wasn't that I wasn't working
hard or whatever. It's just they like who they like. Man,
it don't you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But like, how do you do that? Though?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Like you got like you choose different people for a churchy, right, yeah,
you might not get to some people that you may want.
Like you know what I mean. They don't mean they're
not funny.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It's just like, hey, I want this particular people to
be in churchy. No offense to what you're doing or whatever,
but these are the particular people that I want. And
so that's what coaches do when they come in. And
I had to understand that, like, hey man, this is
the guy that they drafted. They want him to play.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
But did you ever I mean, as an athlete, you
have to have supreme belief in yourself. Do you ever
be not playing watching somebody and be like, come mom, bro.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah all the time. I'm gonna tell him this stuff too,
because he'd be like, oh, come on, you gotta make
that sack. I was like, hey, are you kidding me?
You know what I mean? Times I said that watching
your game, I was like, you better watch your mouth.
What are you crazy? You better not ever say that
about none of these athletes out here. You crazy by
as much your mama be screaming at you to get
(35:57):
the sacks and do you do it? So why are
you screaming it like they can hear you? I was like,
it worked, It worked both ways. But when I was
telling I was like, how I lasted for nine years?
Cause it's one thing to get to the NFL, but
it's another thing to have some stand power. And I
(36:19):
was like, man, what I did was when I got
in my stands, I was the baddest mofo out there.
In my head. Now you can press play and we
can see what the play like. But in my head
before the play started, I'm bad at one out there,
but when you press play, you get what you get.
(36:40):
But that was my mentality, So I don't have no regrets.
And like my back hurt and my fingers all looked like.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Your finger and you got that big scar on your
other hand.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah. So I broke this ninety five when I was fifteen,
and I was out for like a week. That's that
was me. Bro. I didn't like to mispractice.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I don't like seriously only off for a week.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, they put the caves on and then I.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Was like, oh, I thought you were being funny.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
No, we're just going to the playoffs. Martin Luther King
High School. He was going to playoffs, so I had
to play.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Oh my god, bro, so we we.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Like condition to like blockout game. Bro, Like I play.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Hands, you can't do regular stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I'm losing power and I'm losing strength in them because
but I've been doing this for eighteen years. Like they
just like you know what I mean, Like they set
for grabbing. Like so I wish I could show you
if I put my hands on a flat surface, I
can't push my fingers down flat they.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Are just they're all just crunch crunched up.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah. Yeah, just and it takes a minute.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
You you're trying to get under that jersey.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Hey man, you didn't have to say that. It's a
lot to get up under all of this. Man, you
know what I'm saying. So it took me a while
to put up. That's why I got there early, so
I can get all the kinks out the way. I
get all the kinks out the way, man, you know
what I'm saying. So I always wanted to be there early,
(38:14):
and I got the hot till cold tell me and stuff,
got myself together because when you think about a dog,
I love it. All these dudes are six five sixty four,
So day, what step is my two to three? I'm
five eleven point eight official combine records, five eleven point eight.
Everybody in the league is six two six three and up.
(38:34):
You know what I'm saying. I'm like this every day
of my life. But the low man wins. So you
gotta come down here to see me where I'm already at.
This is my this is my livelihood, this is where
I be so gold line. Ah, you cult, bro, touch blush?
Would you a stop the touch blush?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
It would it would never exist. The Eagles right down
will be like, we can't get it. We can't do
it with Spice, Kevin on the stage, I'm looking at
It would not exist, dog, I'm telling you Goldland. Put
(39:14):
on any film.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I'm like, dog, pull it up, pull on any me
on the gold Line, different animal.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Man, Toush Bush.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
It wouldn't exist. It wouldn't exist. If I was out there,
I'm camp can look, dog, I got goosebumps. Dog, do
you see it? I see I'm not playing. It would
not exist.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I wish we had a type of machine man prime
Spice versus a Tousch bush Man. I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Hey, guys, taking a quick commercial break will be right now.
(40:11):
So okay, so answer me this fie. Now. I don't
know if this is the case. I've heard NFL players
they get paid game chats, right, your salaries divided by
you know, sixteen or seventeen whatever it is sixteen at time, yeah, sixteen,
now seventeen, so you know, and it's a lot of money.
But it stops quickly, and then you realize in less
(40:38):
than a calendar year it has it is going to stop.
Now you've got to go out on a job interview
something you haven't done in your life. Maybe, so you
go to the Big ten network and let's just say
it doesn't go well. Oh you tell us, you tell
us how it wins.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
By KAV. Not going well is a good like that's found.
I would like to see the tape. Actually I wouldn't
burn it. I guess you can't learn from it, do it?
(41:19):
I CAV. I'm I still got dirt in my fingernails,
still got dirt in my fingernails from being out on
the field, you know what I'm saying. And so they like, hey, look,
we know you just retired, but we want you to
(41:40):
come in. We want you to just do a tryout.
We're just gonna put you into a situation where you
talk about this game. We want you to watch the
Ohio State in Indiana game, and we want you to
come up with three key plays of the game. I'm like,
all right, cool, I'm comfortable enough where I can sit
(42:00):
at the desk and talk to you about the plays
that I think are like the pivotal moments. So they
give me the c D to watch. So I get
the CD and I'm watching the game and I located
three plays. They like, all right, put the time step
down in three plays. Boom, do the time step Okay,
(42:23):
I'm on these three plays. Cool boom, We got them,
we'll queue them up. We'll let you see the plays.
We'll let you see how you need to talk over
room whatever, blah blah blah, you got your notes talk
about yeah, cool boom. So so Mike Hall, who still
works there now, he was on the he was at
(42:44):
the desk, so I see him. Hey, what's up. What's
going on?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Man?
Speaker 1 (42:48):
You ready to do this? Yeah? Boom, let's let's get it.
So they showed me where all the cameras are. This
is camera one's camera two. You're gonna be on this
camera whatever, and I'm like, okay, But at the same time,
I got an IFB on. So somebody's talking to my spice.
Good yep, yeah, I'm good. Just know when you're on here,
don't talk to me because you know you're gonna be
(43:12):
live on air. Oh okay, so don't talk to you
as you're talking to me as I'm supposed to be
talking or listening to Mike. Okay, yeah, got it. Boom
in these cameras right, yeah, Mike three two? Mike already
counting down like I'm like, damn okay, faster than up.
You're like, hey, Mike called Big ten networks. Fie, take
(43:33):
it away? What take it away? Take it away to where? Mike?
Where is so in Ohio State? Mind you care? It's
going like they're playing the place already, like and I'm
(43:55):
still like the cameras cut back on me. I'm like this,
So Ohio State. They was rushing the ball, and Beanie
Wells he was killing that game. He had like he
had like two forty against them boys. And then but
that's how I'm reading this. They went to a whole
nother game. No, so a whole other game is playing.
(44:16):
I'm still talking about Ohio State's offense. It has switched
over to Indiana, but I'm still talking about in Ohio
State need to get it together, don't you think, Mike.
I'm trying to add Mike in where don't you think, Mike?
They need to be on here too, man, that's crazy.
So going to the next play, it's care the videos off.
(44:40):
Going to the next play, Ohio State right here on
the thirty two yard line, as you can see right there,
it is the thirty two yard line. They only get
two yards where they really mighty. All they needed was
two yards, So videos off. I still got one more
play to though, And so after that, Mike is like, so,
(45:06):
tell me about produced quarterback. The producer said, Ohio State,
Indiana game produced quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
What what do you do?
Speaker 1 (45:29):
So I just kind of like make some stuff up,
bro like, and it was just it was bad. And
he just kept going. So tell me about Northwestern, like
the offensive coordinator. Like, listen, dog, I just played in
the NFL. I can tell you anything you want to
know about being Roethlisberger. I got notes, bro, like, I
took notes because we played them multiple times. I got
(45:50):
notes on Roethlisberger. I got notes on Aaron Rodgers. I
got notes on NFL quarterbacks, college quarterbacks. I'm gonna need
you to relate. This is what I want to say
to him, Like, Mike, I'm really trying to I got
folk kids, bro for them. I just had a girl
like just she fresh out. Okay, so they y'all said,
(46:13):
Ohio State Indiana. Okay, stop talking to me about Purdue
and or Northwestern and Indiana or any other the Big
ten teams. Stick to what the producer said. He said,
Ohio State in Indiana, That's what I wanted to say,
but if you find the tape, bro, like Quentin, Quentin
(46:37):
is the producer that at Dicten't network. If he find
the tape, burn it.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
It's so funny because like now you're on TV, you
hosted the baking show, you podcast with Shack, your own productions.
But let you tell him, this would have never been
a thing for you. Like, I just love that you
start off a little rough, but man, you built like
a whole second career. Actually, it seems like your media
(47:06):
career has been longer than your NFL career.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Now, dang, you're right. Yeah, yeah, it's getting it is
getting close. Man, it's going on like thirteen years bro. Yeah,
I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, because I've known about you for at
least ten Yo.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
That Needa Baker is hilarious, Yeah that is.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
You're the reason why, you're the reason that the black
community is mad. I've forgotten this, how this began?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Are you gonna put it on me?
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Absolutely? I'm putting it.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
On you know, don't spend this before we let Spice go.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Let me tell you how he destroyed my life. Oh
my gosh, no, no, stay here. One of Spice's recurring
funny videos. He would put people falling or making mistakes,
and he would put I didn't know that sound underneath
(48:07):
the videos. I did not know who sang that song.
So me and my wife were at home. This is
years ago, man, this is maybe two thoy sixteen seventeen.
A while ago. My wife plays a need A Baker's song.
I'm like, oh, that's the that's the Spice Adam sound.
(48:29):
She turns off the music. That's the what that's the
sounds Spice Adam us all the time in his videos.
She was like, you don't know to say it again.
She's like, you don't know where that sounds from. I
was like, yeah, I told you Spice Adams. I want
to show you one of his videos. He just posted
one like two days ago.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
She smacked that phone.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
She's like, you don't know Anita Baker and I'm like no.
Instantly she makes a post on Facebook. Man, I can't
believe I married somebody who didn't grow up with a
need A Baker. So I went public with it. I
was like, y'all, I told you I'm a church kid.
I didn't know well when I tell you, they didn't
want to hear it. There's no excuse in the black
(49:13):
community period for not going it. It's the reason my
children know who she is now. I make sure not
only to play her music, but to let her know. Hey, y'all,
these sounds, these songs are need a baker. It's called
good parenting, called you're black. It depends on did.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Just use the power or have you? Have you been
using them? I just I just like to check stuff go. Man, Hey, man, y'all,
I just want you to do better.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
I'm gonna let you, Spice go, but let me tell
you this. I hurt my shoulder. This is during the pandemic.
Spice sent me some power dot electro magnetic therapy. I
used them like once or twice and lied about how
much I used it for another year or two.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I'm glad you said you like. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Spice will not let it go. Price doesn't let anything go. Actually,
if you are lucky enough to be his friend, your
life will be full of humor and things that he
will continue to remind you.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Look at my face, dude, this is me ninety percent
of the time. Dude.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Absolutely all right, Spikes, we're gonna let you get out
of here before we do tell people where they can
find you, what you're working on, how they can become
more engulfed in a Spice Adams world.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Oh man, Spice Atoms everywhere. Man, Spice Adams dot Com
at Spice Adams everywhere. Man, just come, I'll let you
boy man, he's gonna make them be on church and three.
I got you in my notes of actors to use.
And I'm gonna tell you I'm being a hospital part
two me and CP i'mna be dead on the other
thing like this's gonna be eat Cheetos, I'm a snumber.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Call you for the next season. Let us get the
next season. I'm gonna call you spot letting, Gentlemen's been
not my best moment with Spice Atoms. Hope you learned something,
Hope you got something new. Ould amazing time and we's
seen next week.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Oh sh sh.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
This has been a Unanimous Media original. Not My Best
Moment was produced by iHeart Podcasts and Unanimous Media. It
was hosted by me Kevin Freks, executive produced by Stephen Curry,
Eric Payton, and Charlotte Sumter Vije. Co executive producer Kelenna
Maria Cutney, the executi producer of the iHeart Podcasts are
Sean ty Tone and Jason English. This series was produced
(51:41):
by Peter Calter and Jabari Davis, co producer Kurt Redmond,
especially thanks to Stephen Curry and Will Pearson. Not My
Best Moment as a production of Unanimous Media and iHeart podcast.
For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart
Radio app, typ a podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
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