November 19, 2025 • 57 mins
In this episode of the Now You Know "Meet the Candidates 2026 Midterm Series," this no-holds-barred conversation covers a wide range of topics, including Georgia gubernatorial candidate Representative Derrick Jackson's policy positions, and his thoughts on qualifications for leadership roles.
Jackson, a retired lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy and a corporate executive, emphasizes his commitment to family, rights, and military matters as key pillars of his platform. He also touches on his past legislative achievements, his vision for raising the minimum wage, and his plans to support small farmers and low-income families.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now You Know and Noada Barrosso is a production of
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
On today's edition of the twenty twenty six Meet the
Candidate Midterm series, we've had the most unfiltered episode of
Now You Know. Today we spoke with Representative Darrel Jackson,
candidate for Georgia governor, who, in my opinion, had a
whole lot to say about his opponents. We went into
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everything including opponent qualifications, his policy, and even a brief
back and forth. Now watch to the end to see
every little answer because the goal of our midterm series
is to educate folks. Educate folks on what a midterm
even is and what it looks like to support a
candidate based on what you want, not off of name recognition,
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fundraising ability and stuff like that. So let's get right
into it. Representative Jackson, how are you happen to Noah?
You were? You were grilling me, a well deserved grilling.
Tell me, tell me about it.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Listen, I truly believe Noah that when we first met you,
when Cammie and I first met you, you were like
a breath of fresh air. Because our society will say
that the youth of today are not concerned about tomorrow.
But you've always been concerned about tomorrow. And that's the
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reason why I'm running for governor, because you need someone
today that's going to make sure that you have a tomorrow.
And so I'm running for governor for your family, my family,
your generation, my generation. When you think about my qualifications,
and which is the reason why I grilled.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You, can you qualifyify.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm qualified, not just for one of the two rows
of governor, but both both. You endorse someone that's not
qualified to be the commander in chief. How are you
going to qualify someone that's not.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
They're not commander in chief qualified, Noah, tell me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Why Jason Saves is not qualified in your eyes.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Here's the reason why he's not qualified as commander in chief.
He never served in the military. He doesn't have my
leadership skills. I've led over as a department head, over
twenty five hundred officers and sailors. Jason Sevez never led
more than five people. So when you think about governor, Noah,
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and you know politics very well, you know the structure
of our government. You need someone that's qualified to understand
how to take the big.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Issues what are the five individuals?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He said, he's a small business owner, so I'm just
saying he has five or ten employees. It doesn't match
seven deployments.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
How would you feel if someone replied? Representative Jackson said
that most leaders in the state of Georgia and around
the country have not had the great military service, but
have led another way. Tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And that's fair, right, But let's look at what's happening
right now at the federal government level. When you have
someone that's not qualified, even when the individual was a
president before. Our families are hurting because of unqualified individuals
are in leadership roles. Look what's happening in the Department
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of Education, Noah, that person not qualified.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Look what's happening in Health and Human Services? That person
is not qualified? So that ended up hurting families.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, with Stacy Abrams not qualified because she was in
the military.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Stacy Abrams, I'm not runn against Stacy Abrams. I'm talking
about your candidate that you endorse, right, So we're not
gonna pivot from this. We're not gonna start talking about Stacey.
We're talking about Jason Estevez. You asked me about Jason
Estevez right. So I'm answering your question directly. You're saying,
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you ask me why Jason Estevez is not qualified. I'm
letting you know, Jason Estevez is not qualified to be
the chief executive Officer or the commander in chief, both
of those positions are required to be governor in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Realistically, to be qualified to run for gover, you need
the five thousand dollars and you need to be thirty five.
That's qualified. And realistically, if you want to go around
the state and there's one person who is who really
one person who lacks this is oh Lou Brown, who
who really has to make it out the mud here
with it. And realistically, you just need in my eyes,
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you need experience in that you'd argue serve five terms
he did too. Realistically, you need experience in those branches
of government, and you need to be able to say
you done work legislatively. And I think there's only one
can in this race who hasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So great question, and I appreciate that absolutely, because there's
a difference, Noah, between being qualified and qualifying. For qualifying,
you just need to be over the age of thirty, right,
It's not the five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You got to be over the age of thirty.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
You have to have lived in Georgia for six years
and lived in the United States for fourteen years. Those
are the three requirements for qualifying. It has nothing to
do with money. We like to add those kind of metrics. Right, So,
if you're going to talk about Olu Brown, if Olu
Brown pays his five thousand dollars, he's qualifying.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Qualified.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And so to be qualified to be a governor.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You got to serve with the military.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I would say you need to have that on your
resume to be commander in chiefe.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I can't remember last time we had a nominee that
didn't military service.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh, come on, Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter four years.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
He went to the Navy Academy. He had a very
successful tour as governor of Georgia. And the reason why
we know he was successful because he became the President
of the United States. He's the only governor in all
of history of Georgia, right that have military service and
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became the president. Now, I'm not saying I'm going to
become the governor and parlay this into becoming the president,
but I'm just letting you know that that military piece
cannot be We cannot dismiss that. There's something to be
said when you have a leader that understands families, that
understands sacrifice, that understands integrity and honesty and courage. There's
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something to be said about that leader. And more than
now than ever before, we need that type of leader.
So I appreciate your question, but I'm not pivoting to Stacy.
I'm not pivoting to j Carter. We're talking about Jason savez.
Now you may say, well, what about the other six?
Thank you for asking me get to that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No, we're all right.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And so I think you've gotten to introduce yourself to
the listener as a very confident leader, someone who served
five terms in the state House. So tell me a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And that's not past tense. I'm still a state representative,
that's right now. Jason quit.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Jason resigned, he quit his run.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
He did not fulfill his term. His commit was two years.
That's why I make sure we're doing apples apples, because
you're my nephew.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That's right. This is a conversation we have at the house.
That's you know what I mean. So Uncle Derek, Representative Jackson,
tell me a little bit about yourself, your candidacy and
everything like it.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I enjoy being a husband and a father.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
My wife and I we have a beautiful blend of
seven amazing young adults, and you know a few of them.
But the beautiful thing about being a husband and a
father is that I understand the complexities of family.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And that's the reason.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Why I'm also the most qualified to be governor, because
when you have the understanding of what families are going through. Listen,
I think about my mother who raised her only son.
My mother was a nurse for forty years before the
Good Lord took her home. Born and raised right here
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in Georgia. My mother parents, my grandparents also born right
here in Waynesboro, Georgia. I am a retired lieutenant commander,
served in the United States Navy for twenty two years.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I am a corporate executive.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I did ten years in corporate America and now I've
been for nearly ten years under that gold Dome fighting
a good fight. That's forty two years of leadership service
and Noah experience. I'm asking you, along with the other
eleven million in Georgia, let us not go about this,
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this thing as a popularity contest. Let's go at this
and say who's the best qualified for right now for Georgia.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's who I am.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
There you go. Now. The reason why I really wanted
you to introduce yourself is because Representative Jackson. I will
say this, you have a really nice website. I like
your website and on there, which I think a lot
of candidates should kind of take note from, is that
you have your policy platform right there.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know I came out with that.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, I haven't made any changes to my website
so on June sixth, my platform has been out and open.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And if you synthesize.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
My platform, I guarantee you Noah, it's going to come
back to family, our rights in the military.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Those are the three shooting straight.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I'm not afraid either.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You know I'm wearing John Lewis T shirt. There you go, right,
and John Lewis said truth will make noise. That's what
John Lewis said, Truth will make noise, good trouble right right.
He also said, Noah, when you see something that's not right,
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not fair and unjust, we have a moral obligation to
do something. And that's what this. That's part of being
a truth teller. That's part of speaking truth to power.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
We're gonna get into the opponents and all that a
little bit later, but before that, I want to bring
something up there I think a lot of people will
find interesting. Representative Jackson. What stands out to me is
that you won one of your races by eighteen votes,
and how has that race really captured that get out
the vote is so important and that every vote matters.
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Is someone who won a crucial race by eighteen votes.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
When I won that last race by eighteen votes, it
crystallized the importance of every vote should be counted. We
should not have a law that's going to disenfranchise black
and brown citizens, right, because that same year, Georgia was
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going through Senate Bill two oh two that impeded a
lot of voters in terms of making sure that they
not only voted for me, all right, that was my
fourth term, but.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They were changing precincts.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
They were doing some horrible things in Georgia. And so
that's the second thing. So the first thing, every vote matters,
and then the laws that we have coming back to
our rights, right that that also matters.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And but the third and most important.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Thing to Noah, we as elected officials, we gotta meet
citizens where they are.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We can't just expect that citizens gonna know what your
platform is.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
They're gonna they know who you are, right, And so
you gotta get out there. You gotta knock on doors,
you gotta you gotta make phone calls, you gotta send
text messages, you gotta meet.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Maybe AKA Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, there you go, there you go, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
There you go. And and and on that topic, you
are really running against some of the heavyweights, and that
that race you won by eighteen votes, I'm gonna say
that you were really up against the establishment. You really
were they were they were up against you. They were
up against a voice in the state House. And you're
up against the aavyweights. You're up against Keisha Lance Bottoms,
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former Lieutenant Governor Jeff Duncan. And so I really want
to know, how do you plan to win not only
the primary, but the general election against all these people?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, thank you absolutely, you know, Noah, And just for
your listening orders, because you know me, you mentioned the establishment.
See the establishment need to ask himselves the question. Right now,
I'm speaking to the establishment. Do we want to win
next year or do we just want to play kate?
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Folks feelings right, because if they want to win, then
they will support the Democratic candidate that could win the
general election, not just win the primary. And the reason
why I'm saying that, Noah, because we just witnessed what
took place in New York City. Mandami was not the
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establishment candidate. In fact, he beat the establishment candidate twice.
He beat him in the primary and in the general election.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Are you inspired by mom?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I am because that provided a sense of hope in
our country that a thirty four year old could win
a big race like New York City to become the
mayor of New York City. I'm inspired by that. I'm
also inspired how he leveraged TikTok. I'm going to be everywhere.
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I'm going to continue to speak my truth. I'm going
to continue to make sure that across Georgia urban suburban
and rule not only know that I'm the uniquely qualified candidate,
the best candidate that's going to help families, that's going
to fight for our rights and stand up and make
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sure that our military are not misused and abused as
they are right now.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
As I like to say, a quick pause for the cause.
Let me ask you questions. This is kind of the
fun part of the myth term series so far. Yeah,
where has been your favorite place to campaign so far?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
We only have one hundred and four miles a beautiful coastline.
There's no other place in Georgia like it. Beautiful families
over down the coastline. Then I went over to West Georgia,
Columbus Muskogee County, and that's just.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
A beautiful place. Riverwalk.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I just went up to Gainesville, beautiful as well as
seeing all the foliage. Yeah, I mean we're going everywhere,
but the most beautiful place, the most special place is
sitting down in citizens' living room and just having a conversation.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Representative Jacksonville. I see. That makes you uniquely special in
our party. Quite frankly, is that no one stopped you
when you try to run for governor. Unlike Marjorie Taylor Green.
How do you feel about her recent three on some
of the.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Issues, you know, I find it interesting that Marjorie Taylor
Green and Jeff Duncan, how they just having a different
playing a different tune right now right? I mean, Trump
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hasn't changed. You know, they're making it, you know him
to be some monster and horrible person, but they supported him, right,
Jeff Duncan, Right, he just said, hey, I'm gonna become
a Democrat, right, I mean he was at the DNC
when up in Chicago, You and I were up there, right, Yeah,
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he endorsed Kamala. But that doesn't qualify you to become
a gubernatorial candidate for the Democratic Party overnight. The reason
why is because ten years Jeff Duncan has been under
that go dome. A portion of that ten years he
was four years as a lieutenant governor. He helped introduce
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and champion some of these horrible laws that we're dealing with.
That eighteen votes. Jeff Duncan is the reason why Senate
Bill Too two is in Georgia. Right, The reason why
Georgia has the worst black maternal rate is because of
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Jeff Duncan. We don't need as we you know, back
in twenty twenty one, one hundred and sixty nine women
lost their life in Georgia. Seven hundred and seventy two
children lost their life in Georgia because of a bill
that Jeff Duncan looked over the shoulder and agreed and
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voted and helped Brian Kemp to bring into law House
Bill forty one.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So that's the reason why I'm somewhat perplexed when like
Jeff Duncan and Marjorie are singing a different tune because
the world in which we still live in and I speaks,
I'm being very specific, Georgia are dealing with some of
the laws that they help introducing champions.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I want to ask you, could I name each of
your opponents and you tell me why they're not qualified?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Sure, let's go Burt Jones.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Burt Jones is a daddy's boy. His daddy just gave
him ten million dollars. He doesn't think on his feet.
He's not a leader. That's Burt Jones.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Chris Carr.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Chris Carr.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
He's not even qualified to be attorney general, So why
would I trust him to be the governor?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
My boy?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Jeff Duncan, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Duncan needs to tell all Georgia, everybody that resign in Georgia,
he needs to explain his ten year record under that
gold Dome. He's not qualified until he explained every bill
that he helped introduce and champion in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Okay, Keisha Land's bottoms.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know I got I got respect for Keisha right
Rual Roman Rue.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
You know, she's brand new, so I don't know much
about her politics. She's only been there for a couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So your favorite, Jason.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I want everyone to go and look at Jason estevez
voting record. Okay, starting with Senate Bill two forty four,
he voted yes. Brandon Beach is a treasury worked for
Donald Trump. Right now because Jason Estevez helped Brandon Beach
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get that bill passed, send it Bill two forty four.
Jason Stevez need to explain why Senate Bill eighty two
got passed.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
About two to one to two or the first value
you talked.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
About two forty four, So two forty four is the
we call it the Trump bill. When there's a provision
in there if Fannie Willis gets removed from the case,
citizens in Georgia will have to pay Donald Trump's legal fees,
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all of them and his conspirators.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Georgian's should not be held responsible for a crime that
they did not commit.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What's the other bill you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Center Bill eighty two will siphon money? From the public
education system.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
To support charter schools.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I don't have nothing against charter schools, but I think
a bill like that should not ciphon money from the
public education system.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, Michael Thurmond.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I got respect for Michael.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He has done a lot of good things for Georgia.
I see him as a big brother. In fact, he
see me as a younger version of him thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So I got respect for Michael.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And what are you really looking forward to addressing on
the debate stage.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Let us talk about the real issues. We don't need
to discuss the Epstein files. Epstein files are not going
to resolve the six hundred and forty thousand children being fed. Right,
Let's talk about real issues. Let's talk about affordability, Let's
talk about minimum wages.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Let's talk about.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
What we would do as governor, right on the debate stage.
Yeah right, Because what I witnessed last week on a
little debate stage, every talking about who's your favorite governor
and president and all that, that's not what the Georgians
want to hear. They want to know, how are you
going to make our life better? How are you going
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to give us access to healthcare? Our seniors are asking
that question. Our young people are asking about their future
as you relate to jobs.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What are our thoughts about AI and things in that nature.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I want to ask you one thing really stood out
on your platform which made me believe that you are
one of the most progressive candidates in the race. What
did you want to raise the minimum wage? Two?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Again? Why didn't you endorse me? Derek?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We gone, okay, okay, okay, okay, all right, here's the
reason why we need to increase the minimum wage.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What was the actual proposal? I think I had a.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
House bill six hundred, it's still on. It's still it
was so high it.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Is you wanted to raise the minimum wage like thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No close.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
So the first year we're going to raise it from
five fifteen cents, because your listening audience may not know,
is five dousand and fifteen cents. The first year, we're
going to raise the fifteen dollars. The second year we're
going to raise it to twenty dollars, and then a
third year to twenty seven dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Why twenty seven dollars?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Thank you for asking that question, Noah, Because the two
point one million families in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
We'll lift them out of poverty.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
The reason why our families are asking for affordability, the
reason why I ask part of our vernacular because they're
working two or three jobs to try to make the
ends meet. Nurses should not be working two or three jobs.
You shouldn't have a nurse working ten hours a day
on of four days and then doing door dash. Nothing
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against DoorDash and uber, but a nurse they should earn
a livable wage.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
So what about those who argue? And you might have
noticed I haven't given a point of view on any
of the I'm not debating on it. I'm just saying,
what is your thoughts to those who may say that
raising the minimum wage to something like twenty seven dollars
in a state that's currently five dollars fifteen set might
raise prices.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
That's always the argument anytime, And if you look at
the last forty years, every time the federal government continue
to talk about minimum wage raising it, corporate corporation starts saying, oh,
that's going to cost us more money. Well, just ask
Elon Musk, who just received a one trillion dollar compensation package.
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Are they asking about the janitor that works at Tesla?
That's working there every day for five hundred and fifteen cents?
Are they asking about the accountant that works at Tesla?
What they're earning is one trillion dollar compensation package? Is
that too much? Isn't that too much? I would say
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yes that I'm asking, Yeah, one trillion dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Any democratic agree that's too much?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, that's too much? Right?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Why is it that CEO's compensation packaging that are jumping
three hundred and four hundred percent. But meanwhile the accountant,
the HR person, they just having a livable wage issue.
You we got to make sure that the top one
percent they need to understand that they cannot achieve their
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success without the ninety nine percent of us.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And so that argument is a very false argument, right, Yeah,
the price the loaf of bread, for example, No, when
I was your age, you know, you know what the
costs a loaf of bread?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No clue, I don't even know what is now?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Ten cents. Yeah, let's talk about affordability.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
What does that look like?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Twenty seven dollars an hour is not expensive, is my point.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So you're I just want to confirm. I don't want
to put words in your mouth jump from five dollars
and fifteen cent gradually to twenty seven dollars in the
span of three years. That's the plan, right, that's right.
Just wanted to make sure that's right. So, and I think,
how do you plan to get these proposals? We're talking
about a twenty seven dollars minimum wage with a Republican
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legislate branch. Potentially tell me a little bit about that. Yeah,
you plan to get this stuff?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Great question. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So right now, we have eighty Democrats in the House,
one hundred Republicans in the House, and then you have
twenty three Democrats in the Senate and thirty three Republicans,
so we're closer to flipping.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
The House than we are in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
A Governor Jackson will let the Speaker of the House
and the Lieutenant governor let them know that there's only,
by law one bill we need to pass.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
That's the budget.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
All the other four thousand bills, all that other stuff.
So if we do not get the bills that I
need to be passed, no bills will get passed. I
will veto every bill with exception of that budget. We
got to demonstrate courage.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I want to ask you this. This is something I
ask every candidate, and I think it defines a candidacy.
Would you what is your what was your state income
tax proposal? I want it gone.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So there are a lot of candidates who and I
appreciate them following my lead, but a lot of them
saying let's just do away with it overnight.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I think that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
We're gonna my plan, my vision is to do it
in a very incremental approach.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We're gonna start off with taking care.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Of our seniors, go to phase it out.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, we're gonna phase it out. We're gonna take care
of our seniors, those are over the age of sixty five.
We're gonna take care of our military veterans they will
also be state tax exempt. Our educators K through twelve educators,
and our nurses. Let's start there, those who are serving
every day, those who have served already, right, unfixed incomes.
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So we're gonna start with those four categories, and then
we're gonna see how we you know, because I can't predict,
you know, our economic health in the future, right, We're
going to see how we do over that period of time.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And also we're gonna leverage our surplus.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
No, we got a fourteen point eight billion dollar surplus,
so we're gonna use some of that as well.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
If you could choose anyone to tell your fellow Democrats,
do not nominate this person. Who would it be? And
you don't have to answer.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
In terms of the electorates.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
We're not going to win, Oh, Jeff Duncan. We wouldn't
win the general with Jeff Duncan. No, tell me more.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
We will lose if the establishment and the media pushed
Jeff Duncan. I've been on the campaign trail, especially in
rural parts of Georgia. They're not feeling Jeff Duncan because
a lot of them saying he was just Republican two
months ago. I wouldn't trust him, and so we will
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lose significantly if Jeff Duncan is a Democratic nominee.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Interesting perspective, and and and and and One of the
questions I love asking candidates for governor is I want
to name a few counties and tell me.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I know Jason didn't answer that question.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You noticed you watched Jason interview.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Interesting, I studied all of my fellow candidates.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
You're fellow candidates.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
There you go, I'm gonna retired military officer. What do
you expect for me to do?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
You vetted your fellow candidate? Yeah? Did you watch the
Jeff Duncan interviews.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Just like last week at the AJAC Forum, how Jason
and how Jeff Duncan.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
How they answered the question.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Did you notice when Jeff Duncan said he would They
asked him, Hey, can you name one of your favorite governors? Now,
this is after he just made all this hoopola about
why he's now a Democrat?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
You notice his answer? Noah?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
What was his answer?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
He said, Governor Nathan Dial? Like, wait a minute, I
thought you were a reformed person. Now he should have
he should have just said Jimmy Carter. Heck, I would
have give him credit if he would have said zel Miller.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He said, Nathan Dial, what did you answer?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Well, you know I wasn't there. Why was that because
they changed the rules? Noah, the establishment changed the rules.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Do you think they did that to stop you? Absolutely,
they're trying to silence you. Yeah, you don't like Greg Bustein.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I would just tell you I don't have nothing personal
against Greg Bustein, but I would just tell you I'm
working against the establishment.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You are right, okay, and you know that.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
But I'm also working harder to reach all one hundred
and fifty nine counties.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It just gives me more fuel because this is not
the first time in my life I've been a dark horse.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Why do you think get AJAC is trying to stop
you individually? They have all those candidates there, Why stop
representative Jacks.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Because they want Jeff Duncan.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Just look at the Jason.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
They're not concerned with Michael Thurman. They're focusing on promoting
Jeff Duncan.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You know I love I love Atlanta media. I'm sure
you do too. I saw your Atlanta Voice interview. How
was that?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It was great? It was great at any time, and
this interview is great.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I think these types of conversations, right, You're asking some
very thoughtful questions, and I am making my hardest to
be very clear and succinc because I'm speaking from the heart.
I'm speaking from a place of of when I served
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in the military, realizing that as an officer leading other
officers and sailors that my decisions very well could have
cost them their life, right and being engaged with their
families after every deployment, and so we have a responsibility
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to you and your listening audience to be open and
clear and not and stop this superficial response.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Is right, I'm not going to ask your favorite color representative, Jack.
So you noticed that too, right, and you asked me
if I watched it. I didn't, right, because it's unbearable.
I'm not going to sit there and ask them Keyshlens,
Bottoms how they feel about Charlie Kirk. I'm not I'm
not going to. I'm not gonna. I'm not going to
watch that. I appreciate you answering about the minimum wage,
et cetera, et cetera, and another thing that stuck out
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on your platform. I want to give this the campaign trail.
It was a lot of a lot of very very
progressive ideas, but it concerned me how you could do
that with such a Republican state house in a state
senate in that way, and you have experience in the legislator.
So it forces me to ask you, is this pragmatic?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
The short answer is yes. I mean think let's go
back to twenty twenty. Noah, the world did not anticipate
Georgia to deliver a black man and a Jew to
become a United States Senator.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
They say it's not going to be done, but Georgia
guess what we showed up?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Right? Do you look forward to stating with those two
people if you get the nomination?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Absolutely, But I'm just giving you a clear answer on
why my hope and my faith is true.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I think because Georgians.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Continued to be second guest, right, and we gotta stop
second guessing our families. Right last Tuesday, November fourth, look
what happened across the United States.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Noah, Democrats want across the United States.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
We won two seats that we have not held in
twenty five years. So yes, we're not a red state.
We're a dark purple or light colored blue. My faith
is in God, but I trust the people of Georgia.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
They're going to make the right decision.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
So yes, I'm hopeful that my bold plan to increase
the minimum wage from five dollars and fifteen cents to
fifteen dollars to twenty dollars and then ultimately the twenty
seven dollars. Yes, I believe in Georgians who want to
have access to healthy, quality healthcare across all of Georgia,
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not just in certain counties. There's one hundred and fifty
nine counties, but eighty two counties you cannot even find
an ob g y n.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
In sixty seven counties you can't find a pediatrician.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
So we have to get the base out, right, Yes,
we have to get the base out. And we heard
I think it was yesterday Farrel Williams said that he's
not engaged in politics or whatever. How do you plan
to get a political people out to vote? Tell me
a little, tell me all about that.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I know for real, when I was stationed in Virginia
Beach Norfolk, Virginia, we lived in the same subdivision. Would
and I would tell forharreal and all the other celebrities,
you use your platform and all this stuff about I
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don't get into politics. If you do not get into politics,
politics will get into you. We'll get into your pocketbook,
We'll get into your wallet, will disrupt your household. So
we cannot allow for citizens, regardless us of their economic status,
to silence us.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Six hundred and forty thousand children in Georgia, six hundred
and forty thousand are going to bed hungry. Noah, we
have a responsibility. We all have to use our platform.
And I appreciate you using your platform right and engaging
not just Georgia, but across the United States.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Right, all thirteen fourteen, fifteen year olds. You have a voice.
You may not vote or have the ability to vote,
but you have a voice.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
So we all should use our platform, regardless if you
can vote or not, regardless if you make fifteen million
dollars a year. We have a platform. Let us use it.
Let us do what John Lewis asked us to do,
exercise our moral obligation.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I've been thinking of a way to ask this in
the Derrick Jackson way. You spoke about your qualifications a lot,
and I mean a lot, and so I want to
ask you what bills have you gotten passed in the
during your time as a state legislator.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Oooh man, listen. I'm so appreciative of my team because
they just had me. Over the last nine years. Thirty
eight bills are into law. I've either from you that
I've either authored or co sponsored, right, thirty eight bills
out of three hundred and let me pull it up
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for sure, because we just did this today.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I don't want to misquote myself.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
No worries, no worries at all.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
So in the last nine years. Noah, Yes, sir, three
hundred and fourteen bills.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
My name is on there.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Of that three hundred and fourteen fifty five of those bills,
I've authored two hundred and fifty nine bills. I co
sponsored so out of the bills that three hundred fourteen
thirty eight bills are currently law in Georgia. And some
of my bills were inspired by young people.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Tell me about your favorite one.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I covered seven cities and.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Most of these cities had me to do a public
facilities and a CID Community Improvement Development bill, and that
had inspired the economic growth in District sixty eight to
the degree that three billion dollars of projects were birth
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in my district, four hundred million infrastructure projects in my district,
and it created thirty thousand jobs.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
That's your bill.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
It's multiple bills for each city. So I did one
for the city of Fayetteville, did one for Pea Street City.
I did one for Fairburn. I need to do one
for the town of.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Tyrone your home, right, that's your home.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, yeah, And did one for a city of South
Fords in So is.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
There any one big old bill that you're super proud.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
No, it's all thirty eight of these bills I'm proud of.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
And another thing that I wanted to ask you, and
I know you have to hit the campaign trail, so
I'm be consider of your time. But we had it.
We're having a great time.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I'm trying to get your endorsement.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So I didn't want to be a sis sarrogate right here,
right now in front of you. But long story short,
I liked his time as an educator Atlanta School Board
to the state legislator, and now he's proven himself to
get enough bills passed to be governor and he can
work across the aust no bills pass. We just voted
on a referendum on the Atlanta to November twenty twenty
five ballot, and it did a lot of good for
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seniors with property taxes.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Uh, that was your bill, Noah. I voted yes on
that bill.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
He voted yes. But he's the father of the bill.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
We vote on these bills.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
It's the senator's bill.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, so you're going to give him that one bill
versus my thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
No, sir, which is why I'm using that as an example.
He said, what bill I said, that was one of
my persons fad. That's something he ran out on. That's
something he's proud of. I just listed that one out.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's their one. No, sir, I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Your vote, and now you know, with no de Brosso,
we'll be right back. Representative Jackson, I have to I
have to ask you the only thing when we were
talking about your bills, right, I just wanted to know
it's like a bill that you did yourself.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Vaping bill. About that bill. I put my vaping bill
a saving line.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Why did anyone still Jason probably tax bill? And I'm
not giving you hard time.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
No, no, no, no, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
If you look at why they voted for Jason A.
Steves bill, if that is his bill, I got to
look it up because we go through four thousand bills.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It's because of the two bills that he voted yes
with them. Quick pro quote.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
If there's nothing else that you have not learned since
you met me, Noah, never compromise on your values and
your integrity. I don't care what folks offer you, how
much money they offer you the title. Don't compromise on
your values. Always stick to the things that your parents
taught you. Right, and so I truly believe without knowing
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that he voted yes on two Republican bills, Center Bill
two forty four and Cenate.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Bill eighty two. So why wouldn't they vote for us.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It's not a bill, it's not a bill for bill.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
This is yes no, yes, no.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
No, that's what you see on the outside.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I'm telling you how the sausage is being made on
the inside. Yes, noah, they're trading horses, they're trading bills.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
So okay, let's say, and I'm trying to give. And
by the way, if anyone wants to make a donation
to the representative's website, vote Derek Jackson dot org. If
you are very if you like, if you're being if
you're like myself, and you appreciate what he is saying
and the direct answers he's giving. I really appreciate you
being direct and you're not saying let's I really appreciate that.
I want to ask you why could why why would
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they say like a voter who says, I saw that
property tax bill that helped me out, I saw other bills,
why didn't dare Jackson do the compromise or whatever? The game.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
What would you say to that I voted yes on
that bill?
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You vote yes on his bill?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Good see, because the bill may you know, it may
say Senate Bill one, two three or House Bill four
five six. Both chambers must vote on the bills yay
or nay. Right, So let's pull up that bill when
we get off the show and see how I voted
on that bill.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I'm not telling you to get me credit.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
I didn't say you didn't. I didn't say no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
I'm just letting you know how this process is done. Yeah,
how they do trade horses, and how they will take
a hijack.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
We call it hijacking bill.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Right, I've never it was just surprising me. I've never
heard a representative, whether that's in Congress or in the
state House, say my bill was stolen and that's all
me and I would run an add on it.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yeah, because I just think that I have more time
to talk about the things that matter most instead of
the inside politics. Right, you're very astute, Right, you're you're
you're be on your years. No, you'll be on your years.
But this is not the kind of conversation every day
that I'm having with other thirteen, fourteen, fifteen year olds. Right,
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they want to know can I vote? When I turn eighteen?
Will I be able to start learning how to drive
a car. So they are different kind of conversations. So
I appreciate this conversation that we're having right now. So
when we pass bills, and let's be clear, we don't
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get that many democratic bills pass, right, we just don't. Right,
three hundred and seventy eight bills reached the governor's desk.
Of that three hundred seventy eight, only four of them
were Democratic bills.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
In one of and and the senators got crossed finished line.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
That's right, But that senator needed some support from the
House too, And.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
The people of Georgia are grateful for your support on that.
But I do want to I do want to get
to another reason.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
And you, but it's all about helping families.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
So when you're right, so again that bill, I voted
yes because homestead exemption helps families.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Do you have a choice for lieutenant governor right now?
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I don't. I'm gonna be rore. I don't like any
of them.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I don't, but that's cool. I don't.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I let me tell you where I've been focusing on
and I've been focusing on families. I've been focusing on rights.
What can a Governor Jackson do for families? And rights
in the military. So I haven't been paying attention to
lieutenant governor, attorney general and all them other races. Right now,
I'm focusing on the candidates who are in my race.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I'm studying them. Hopefully they're studying me.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Well, no, you know what, I know they're studying me, Noah,
because they're starting to talk like me.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
They're starting to talk like you.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yes, really, yes, here's a perfect example.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Hit me, Jason as theevest said we should start pre
k out at the age of three.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
He's been saying that since the school boar.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
So he should have wrote a bill during his three
years to say that pragmatism. No, no, I'm using your metric, Noah.
He was in the Senate for three years. He did
not introduce any kind of legislation to even create the conversation.
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But for ten years, I've been talking about the minimum
wage five Okay, for ten years, I've been talking about
the minimum wage for ten years. I've been talking about
improved and.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I think for ten years I would have criticized the
plan twenty seven dollars for California is a bit much.
And we're in the state of Georgia, and people might
be listening to this and say, while he cares for
the people, know you wowling.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
So so my plan is no different than Mandami's.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, that's okay, New York twenty thirty, all the way
in twenty thirty New York City, et cetera. We're in
Georgia and.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
We're sitting on fourteen point eight billion dollars surplus.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
And we kind of want to stay in a surplus
and not a deficit.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Hospitals are closing pragmatic solutions.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
I know, but the Rainy Day Fund is not being
used when it's raining.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
It's raining outside.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I was so successful at General Electric because I understand
taking a pragmatic approach. It's the same thing I did
than the military. I understand economics. I got a master's
in economics. I'm working on my PhD.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I don't think Jason s is working on people, okay.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
But anyway, so I understand economic development, is what I'm
telling you. My thesis is on economic development.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
And some may say, your uncle Derek worked for a
major corporation. What can he say about small business because
he's telling them to pay people twenty seven dollars an hour.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
And I'm telling you, I understand small business. I've studied this.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
You're promising, you're pinky promising, But you're pinky promising. But
people may say I need the record to show.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
For it, but I also listen.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I've been talking to small business owners the last three
and a half four None.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Of them said they're uncomfortable with twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
No, a lot of them saying thank you for seeing us,
thank you for listening to us. We're family owned businesses.
We have our dreams wrapped up in this business. We
finally will have a go that can see us and
hear us.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
They didn't say I'm trying to bankrupt them. They're saying
thank you, just like the small the small farmers are
saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
That's what I wanted to get on. This is a
great part. You've been really looking out for black farmers.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, you got to show up first, Noah and have
a conversation and then just listen.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Tell me about your black farmers right now. I loved it.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
So one of the things that the small black farmers
are asking for us at the state government level is
to help keep their land, don't.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Take their land.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
What's your plan for black farmers? Right?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
We gotta look at the tax the tax code for
small farm You can't equate small farmers at the same
rate as large commercial farmers.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
That's wrong. You can't put them in the same basket.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
You're always at a farm. So tell me about some
of the farms you've been to.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah, so we've been to a farm down in Chris, Georgia, Cordial, Waynesboro, Georgia, Swainsboro, Habersham.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
See a lot of the things with those towns, I
feel uncomfortable and so that's another thing I want to
ask you.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
You will be take security.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
With first black right be one of the first black
governors represented Jackson. Do you feel safe in these cities?
How do you feel how do you feel for black
people that say I don't feel safe in these cities?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:19):
So, I truly believe when you think about all one
hundred and fifty nine counties, some of them are very
ruby read and it's concerning just looking at some of
the flags and signage that they have there. So I
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do have security with me. I always have access to
the Georgia State Patrol.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
I know you're grateful for I'm grateful they're keeping you safe.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, so thank you for asking that question about my safety.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
But as a black person.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, no, no, thank you for asking that question.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I appreciate that, but I do not let that intimidate me. Noah,
because I want them to know, as their governor, I'm
going to show up in.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
All one hundred and fifty nine counties. I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Leave a farmer, small farmer behind because they're in a
ruby red county. I'm going to show up. I'm going
to listen to them. I'm going to help them make
sure that they do not lose their land. This one
small black farmer, he told me four generations ago they
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had one thousand acres, you know what they.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Have today to three hundred.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Is there any specific bills that you've introduced to combat
some of this.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
No, but I will I will certainly entertain because I'm
not a subject matter expert, and so I will listen
to those who are in this space to help us
develop the right legislation to make sure that the fourth
generation lose seven hundred acres of land. Noah, over what
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how for generations? Right, and they've been taxed out of
they God is not making no more land, He's not
making no more land. And so we got to make
sure that these families are protected, and we got to
make sure that they're not taxed out of their land.
We got to make sure that in all South Georgia,
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Southwest Georgia, Southeast Georgia, these farmers they should know they
have a governor that's going to show up. And so
we're gonna even have a grant for small farmers how.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Much you know, let's start off with fifty tho how
a year because you're playing earlier off. Yes, yes, Noah,
this rainy day fund is about to turn to a
Hell no, when do we were gonna dry up? No,
we look out for Georgia.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Can we still make money every year? It's not a
static it's a very dynamic process. That fourteen billion dollars
didn't show up overnight. It was over the course of years.
So when when we create our budget, we're gonna be pragmatic.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
We're gonna make sure, but we're.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Also gonna be progressive because if I can't take care
of you today, DMN, why am I trying to tell you,
Bill hope for tomorrow. The six hundred and forty thousand
children that are going to bed tonight, knowahre hungry. I
can't ask them to pay attention in classroom tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
You support a free school launch for everyone in Georgia. Yes,
why didn't you resign?
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Thank you for asking that question because I made a
two year commitment to the citizens of.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
District sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
I'm so I can chew bubba gum and walk and
talk at the same time. My mother taught me that.
The United States Navy taught me that. Ge taught me that,
And guess what I learned. I can do the same
thing as a state representative. So guess what I'm going
to do. Noah, I'm going to I'm going to introduce
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bills come January when we go back in the session
to help small farmers right by me. Staying in office
allows for me to do exactly what you're asking me
to do.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Got a fundraise, Representative, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I know, and we are. I got a phenomenal team.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Good.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Yes, you know what the average donation we're receiving right now, Noah,
two hundred and fifty five dollars and seventeen cents. It's
the average donation. We will pray over to ten dollars,
just like we will pray over the one thousand dollars donation.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Right, would you say that ten dollars is a lot
for a small business owner who just wants to support
your campaign.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
I think we're stronger of Georgia based on what I
have witness if we keep doing what we're doing. Noah,
keep bringing in the world right, where's the World Business Airport?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Noah are here all right?
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Guess who's coming to Georgia next year? Noah, World Cup.
Guess who's coming back for another Super Bowl? Noah in
twenty twenty eight, We're going to be making money.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Noah.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
If someone said, for example, Jason Svez is the education candidate,
what Candida?
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Are you the governor that's gonna take care of families?
Speaker 1 (54:34):
And that's your campaign promise?
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Absolutely, there you go.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
And I really appreciate you for being unfiltered, honest and
telling all. I really really appreciate you for coming on
and follow.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Me on Derek Jackson on all social media, and I'm
coming to TikTok soon, Noah, and.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Go to vote Dereckjackson dot org.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
And the next time you interview any one of my
fellow candidates, say, uh, represented Jackson put something out there.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
He wants to know, are you qualified to be the
commander in chief?
Speaker 1 (55:10):
You know I'm gonna do it too, right, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
Do But I also need your listening audience because you
go across the United States. You don't have to live
in Georgia to go to vote dere Jackson dot org.
Click donate, Come on, no and see and donate. I
appreciate you, nephew. That's why you still my nephew. Hey,
you represented Jackson put the put the marker out there?
Are you qualified to be commander in chief? And is
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your first lady more qualified his first lady?
Speaker 1 (55:37):
First lady debate?
Speaker 2 (55:40):
No, let's do a first right here.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
We'll do it here.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Like that idea.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
You will be the first in the United States to
have a first lady debate.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Come on, no us do this show man is onto something?
Speaker 1 (55:58):
What website?
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Low one vote Derek Jackson dot org.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
That's d E R R I C K J A
Z K s O N dot org and click donate.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
All right, all right, he's still my nephew.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
All Rober.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
This episode really represents the goal of the Midterm series, unfiltered,
nonscripted conversations about what it means to run for these
high offices. And in the Midterm series, we're gonna explain
everything from what a midterm even is, why these people
are the best candidate, and getting them away from their
pr answers. And I am so thankful for Senator Steves
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
On today's edition of the twenty twenty six Meet the
Candidate Midterm series, we've had the most unfiltered episode of
Now You Know. Today we spoke with Representative Darrel Jackson,
candidate for Georgia governor, who, in my opinion, had a
whole lot to say about his opponents. We went into
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everything including opponent qualifications, his policy, and even a brief
back and forth. Now watch to the end to see
every little answer because the goal of our midterm series
is to educate folks. Educate folks on what a midterm
even is and what it looks like to support a
candidate based on what you want, not off of name recognition,
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fundraising ability and stuff like that. So let's get right
into it. Representative Jackson, how are you happen to Noah?
You were? You were grilling me, a well deserved grilling.
Tell me, tell me about it.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Listen, I truly believe Noah that when we first met you,
when Cammie and I first met you, you were like
a breath of fresh air. Because our society will say
that the youth of today are not concerned about tomorrow.
But you've always been concerned about tomorrow. And that's the
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reason why I'm running for governor, because you need someone
today that's going to make sure that you have a tomorrow.
And so I'm running for governor for your family, my family,
your generation, my generation. When you think about my qualifications,
and which is the reason why I grilled.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You, can you qualifyify.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm qualified, not just for one of the two rows
of governor, but both both. You endorse someone that's not
qualified to be the commander in chief. How are you
going to qualify someone that's not.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
They're not commander in chief qualified, Noah, tell me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Why Jason Saves is not qualified in your eyes.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Here's the reason why he's not qualified as commander in chief.
He never served in the military. He doesn't have my
leadership skills. I've led over as a department head, over
twenty five hundred officers and sailors. Jason Sevez never led
more than five people. So when you think about governor, Noah,
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and you know politics very well, you know the structure
of our government. You need someone that's qualified to understand
how to take the big.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Issues what are the five individuals?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He said, he's a small business owner, so I'm just
saying he has five or ten employees. It doesn't match
seven deployments.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
How would you feel if someone replied? Representative Jackson said
that most leaders in the state of Georgia and around
the country have not had the great military service, but
have led another way. Tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And that's fair, right, But let's look at what's happening
right now at the federal government level. When you have
someone that's not qualified, even when the individual was a
president before. Our families are hurting because of unqualified individuals
are in leadership roles. Look what's happening in the Department
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of Education, Noah, that person not qualified.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Look what's happening in Health and Human Services? That person
is not qualified? So that ended up hurting families.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, with Stacy Abrams not qualified because she was in
the military.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Stacy Abrams, I'm not runn against Stacy Abrams. I'm talking
about your candidate that you endorse, right, So we're not
gonna pivot from this. We're not gonna start talking about Stacey.
We're talking about Jason Estevez. You asked me about Jason
Estevez right. So I'm answering your question directly. You're saying,
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you ask me why Jason Estevez is not qualified. I'm
letting you know, Jason Estevez is not qualified to be
the chief executive Officer or the commander in chief, both
of those positions are required to be governor in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Realistically, to be qualified to run for gover, you need
the five thousand dollars and you need to be thirty five.
That's qualified. And realistically, if you want to go around
the state and there's one person who is who really
one person who lacks this is oh Lou Brown, who
who really has to make it out the mud here
with it. And realistically, you just need in my eyes,
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you need experience in that you'd argue serve five terms
he did too. Realistically, you need experience in those branches
of government, and you need to be able to say
you done work legislatively. And I think there's only one
can in this race who hasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So great question, and I appreciate that absolutely, because there's
a difference, Noah, between being qualified and qualifying. For qualifying,
you just need to be over the age of thirty, right,
It's not the five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
You got to be over the age of thirty.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
You have to have lived in Georgia for six years
and lived in the United States for fourteen years. Those
are the three requirements for qualifying. It has nothing to
do with money. We like to add those kind of metrics. Right, So,
if you're going to talk about Olu Brown, if Olu
Brown pays his five thousand dollars, he's qualifying.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Qualified.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And so to be qualified to be a governor.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You got to serve with the military.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I would say you need to have that on your
resume to be commander in chiefe.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I can't remember last time we had a nominee that
didn't military service.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh, come on, Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter four years.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
He went to the Navy Academy. He had a very
successful tour as governor of Georgia. And the reason why
we know he was successful because he became the President
of the United States. He's the only governor in all
of history of Georgia, right that have military service and
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became the president. Now, I'm not saying I'm going to
become the governor and parlay this into becoming the president,
but I'm just letting you know that that military piece
cannot be We cannot dismiss that. There's something to be
said when you have a leader that understands families, that
understands sacrifice, that understands integrity and honesty and courage. There's
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something to be said about that leader. And more than
now than ever before, we need that type of leader.
So I appreciate your question, but I'm not pivoting to Stacy.
I'm not pivoting to j Carter. We're talking about Jason savez.
Now you may say, well, what about the other six?
Thank you for asking me get to that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No, we're all right.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And so I think you've gotten to introduce yourself to
the listener as a very confident leader, someone who served
five terms in the state House. So tell me a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And that's not past tense. I'm still a state representative,
that's right now. Jason quit.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Jason resigned, he quit his run.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
He did not fulfill his term. His commit was two years.
That's why I make sure we're doing apples apples, because
you're my nephew.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That's right. This is a conversation we have at the house.
That's you know what I mean. So Uncle Derek, Representative Jackson,
tell me a little bit about yourself, your candidacy and
everything like it.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I enjoy being a husband and a father.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
My wife and I we have a beautiful blend of
seven amazing young adults, and you know a few of them.
But the beautiful thing about being a husband and a
father is that I understand the complexities of family.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And that's the reason.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Why I'm also the most qualified to be governor, because
when you have the understanding of what families are going through. Listen,
I think about my mother who raised her only son.
My mother was a nurse for forty years before the
Good Lord took her home. Born and raised right here
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in Georgia. My mother parents, my grandparents also born right
here in Waynesboro, Georgia. I am a retired lieutenant commander,
served in the United States Navy for twenty two years.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I am a corporate executive.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I did ten years in corporate America and now I've
been for nearly ten years under that gold Dome fighting
a good fight. That's forty two years of leadership service
and Noah experience. I'm asking you, along with the other
eleven million in Georgia, let us not go about this,
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this thing as a popularity contest. Let's go at this
and say who's the best qualified for right now for Georgia.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's who I am.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
There you go. Now. The reason why I really wanted
you to introduce yourself is because Representative Jackson. I will
say this, you have a really nice website. I like
your website and on there, which I think a lot
of candidates should kind of take note from, is that
you have your policy platform right there.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You know I came out with that.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, I haven't made any changes to my website
so on June sixth, my platform has been out and open.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And if you synthesize.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
My platform, I guarantee you Noah, it's going to come
back to family, our rights in the military.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Those are the three shooting straight.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I'm not afraid either.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You know I'm wearing John Lewis T shirt. There you go, right,
and John Lewis said truth will make noise. That's what
John Lewis said, Truth will make noise, good trouble right right.
He also said, Noah, when you see something that's not right,
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not fair and unjust, we have a moral obligation to
do something. And that's what this. That's part of being
a truth teller. That's part of speaking truth to power.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
We're gonna get into the opponents and all that a
little bit later, but before that, I want to bring
something up there I think a lot of people will
find interesting. Representative Jackson. What stands out to me is
that you won one of your races by eighteen votes,
and how has that race really captured that get out
the vote is so important and that every vote matters.
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Is someone who won a crucial race by eighteen votes.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
When I won that last race by eighteen votes, it
crystallized the importance of every vote should be counted. We
should not have a law that's going to disenfranchise black
and brown citizens, right, because that same year, Georgia was
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going through Senate Bill two oh two that impeded a
lot of voters in terms of making sure that they
not only voted for me, all right, that was my
fourth term, but.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They were changing precincts.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
They were doing some horrible things in Georgia. And so
that's the second thing. So the first thing, every vote matters,
and then the laws that we have coming back to
our rights, right that that also matters.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And but the third and most important.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Thing to Noah, we as elected officials, we gotta meet
citizens where they are.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We can't just expect that citizens gonna know what your
platform is.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
They're gonna they know who you are, right, And so
you gotta get out there. You gotta knock on doors,
you gotta you gotta make phone calls, you gotta send
text messages, you gotta meet.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Maybe AKA Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, there you go, there you go, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
There you go. And and and on that topic, you
are really running against some of the heavyweights, and that
that race you won by eighteen votes, I'm gonna say
that you were really up against the establishment. You really
were they were they were up against you. They were
up against a voice in the state House. And you're
up against the aavyweights. You're up against Keisha Lance Bottoms,
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former Lieutenant Governor Jeff Duncan. And so I really want
to know, how do you plan to win not only
the primary, but the general election against all these people?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, thank you absolutely, you know, Noah, And just for
your listening orders, because you know me, you mentioned the establishment.
See the establishment need to ask himselves the question. Right now,
I'm speaking to the establishment. Do we want to win
next year or do we just want to play kate?
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Folks feelings right, because if they want to win, then
they will support the Democratic candidate that could win the
general election, not just win the primary. And the reason
why I'm saying that, Noah, because we just witnessed what
took place in New York City. Mandami was not the
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establishment candidate. In fact, he beat the establishment candidate twice.
He beat him in the primary and in the general election.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Are you inspired by mom?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I am because that provided a sense of hope in
our country that a thirty four year old could win
a big race like New York City to become the
mayor of New York City. I'm inspired by that. I'm
also inspired how he leveraged TikTok. I'm going to be everywhere.
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I'm going to continue to speak my truth. I'm going
to continue to make sure that across Georgia urban suburban
and rule not only know that I'm the uniquely qualified candidate,
the best candidate that's going to help families, that's going
to fight for our rights and stand up and make
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sure that our military are not misused and abused as
they are right now.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
As I like to say, a quick pause for the cause.
Let me ask you questions. This is kind of the
fun part of the myth term series so far. Yeah,
where has been your favorite place to campaign so far?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
We only have one hundred and four miles a beautiful coastline.
There's no other place in Georgia like it. Beautiful families
over down the coastline. Then I went over to West Georgia,
Columbus Muskogee County, and that's just.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
A beautiful place. Riverwalk.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I just went up to Gainesville, beautiful as well as
seeing all the foliage. Yeah, I mean we're going everywhere,
but the most beautiful place, the most special place is
sitting down in citizens' living room and just having a conversation.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Representative Jacksonville. I see. That makes you uniquely special in
our party. Quite frankly, is that no one stopped you
when you try to run for governor. Unlike Marjorie Taylor Green.
How do you feel about her recent three on some
of the.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Issues, you know, I find it interesting that Marjorie Taylor
Green and Jeff Duncan, how they just having a different
playing a different tune right now right? I mean, Trump
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hasn't changed. You know, they're making it, you know him
to be some monster and horrible person, but they supported him, right,
Jeff Duncan, Right, he just said, hey, I'm gonna become
a Democrat, right, I mean he was at the DNC
when up in Chicago, You and I were up there, right, Yeah,
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he endorsed Kamala. But that doesn't qualify you to become
a gubernatorial candidate for the Democratic Party overnight. The reason
why is because ten years Jeff Duncan has been under
that go dome. A portion of that ten years he
was four years as a lieutenant governor. He helped introduce
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and champion some of these horrible laws that we're dealing with.
That eighteen votes. Jeff Duncan is the reason why Senate
Bill Too two is in Georgia. Right, The reason why
Georgia has the worst black maternal rate is because of
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Jeff Duncan. We don't need as we you know, back
in twenty twenty one, one hundred and sixty nine women
lost their life in Georgia. Seven hundred and seventy two
children lost their life in Georgia because of a bill
that Jeff Duncan looked over the shoulder and agreed and
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voted and helped Brian Kemp to bring into law House
Bill forty one.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So that's the reason why I'm somewhat perplexed when like
Jeff Duncan and Marjorie are singing a different tune because
the world in which we still live in and I speaks,
I'm being very specific, Georgia are dealing with some of
the laws that they help introducing champions.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I want to ask you, could I name each of
your opponents and you tell me why they're not qualified?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Sure, let's go Burt Jones.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Burt Jones is a daddy's boy. His daddy just gave
him ten million dollars. He doesn't think on his feet.
He's not a leader. That's Burt Jones.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Chris Carr.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Chris Carr.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
He's not even qualified to be attorney general, So why
would I trust him to be the governor?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
My boy?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Jeff Duncan, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Duncan needs to tell all Georgia, everybody that resign in Georgia,
he needs to explain his ten year record under that
gold Dome. He's not qualified until he explained every bill
that he helped introduce and champion in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Okay, Keisha Land's bottoms.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know I got I got respect for Keisha right
Rual Roman Rue.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
You know, she's brand new, so I don't know much
about her politics. She's only been there for a couple
of years.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So your favorite, Jason.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I want everyone to go and look at Jason estevez
voting record. Okay, starting with Senate Bill two forty four,
he voted yes. Brandon Beach is a treasury worked for
Donald Trump. Right now because Jason Estevez helped Brandon Beach
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get that bill passed, send it Bill two forty four.
Jason Stevez need to explain why Senate Bill eighty two
got passed.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
About two to one to two or the first value
you talked.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
About two forty four, So two forty four is the
we call it the Trump bill. When there's a provision
in there if Fannie Willis gets removed from the case,
citizens in Georgia will have to pay Donald Trump's legal fees,
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all of them and his conspirators.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Georgian's should not be held responsible for a crime that
they did not commit.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What's the other bill you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Center Bill eighty two will siphon money? From the public
education system.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
To support charter schools.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I don't have nothing against charter schools, but I think
a bill like that should not ciphon money from the
public education system.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Okay, Michael Thurmond.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I got respect for Michael.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He has done a lot of good things for Georgia.
I see him as a big brother. In fact, he
see me as a younger version of him thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So I got respect for Michael.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And what are you really looking forward to addressing on
the debate stage.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Let us talk about the real issues. We don't need
to discuss the Epstein files. Epstein files are not going
to resolve the six hundred and forty thousand children being fed. Right,
Let's talk about real issues. Let's talk about affordability, Let's
talk about minimum wages.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Let's talk about.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
What we would do as governor, right on the debate stage.
Yeah right, Because what I witnessed last week on a
little debate stage, every talking about who's your favorite governor
and president and all that, that's not what the Georgians
want to hear. They want to know, how are you
going to make our life better? How are you going
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to give us access to healthcare? Our seniors are asking
that question. Our young people are asking about their future
as you relate to jobs.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What are our thoughts about AI and things in that nature.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I want to ask you one thing really stood out
on your platform which made me believe that you are
one of the most progressive candidates in the race. What
did you want to raise the minimum wage? Two?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Again? Why didn't you endorse me? Derek?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We gone, okay, okay, okay, okay, all right, here's the
reason why we need to increase the minimum wage.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What was the actual proposal? I think I had a.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
House bill six hundred, it's still on. It's still it
was so high it.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Is you wanted to raise the minimum wage like thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No close.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
So the first year we're going to raise it from
five fifteen cents, because your listening audience may not know,
is five dousand and fifteen cents. The first year, we're
going to raise the fifteen dollars. The second year we're
going to raise it to twenty dollars, and then a
third year to twenty seven dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Why twenty seven dollars?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Thank you for asking that question, Noah, Because the two
point one million families in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
We'll lift them out of poverty.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
The reason why our families are asking for affordability, the
reason why I ask part of our vernacular because they're
working two or three jobs to try to make the
ends meet. Nurses should not be working two or three jobs.
You shouldn't have a nurse working ten hours a day
on of four days and then doing door dash. Nothing
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against DoorDash and uber, but a nurse they should earn
a livable wage.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
So what about those who argue? And you might have
noticed I haven't given a point of view on any
of the I'm not debating on it. I'm just saying,
what is your thoughts to those who may say that
raising the minimum wage to something like twenty seven dollars
in a state that's currently five dollars fifteen set might
raise prices.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
That's always the argument anytime, And if you look at
the last forty years, every time the federal government continue
to talk about minimum wage raising it, corporate corporation starts saying, oh,
that's going to cost us more money. Well, just ask
Elon Musk, who just received a one trillion dollar compensation package.
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Are they asking about the janitor that works at Tesla?
That's working there every day for five hundred and fifteen cents?
Are they asking about the accountant that works at Tesla?
What they're earning is one trillion dollar compensation package? Is
that too much? Isn't that too much? I would say
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yes that I'm asking, Yeah, one trillion dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Any democratic agree that's too much?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, that's too much? Right?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Why is it that CEO's compensation packaging that are jumping
three hundred and four hundred percent. But meanwhile the accountant,
the HR person, they just having a livable wage issue.
You we got to make sure that the top one
percent they need to understand that they cannot achieve their
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success without the ninety nine percent of us.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And so that argument is a very false argument, right, Yeah,
the price the loaf of bread, for example, No, when
I was your age, you know, you know what the
costs a loaf of bread?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No clue, I don't even know what is now?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Ten cents. Yeah, let's talk about affordability.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
What does that look like?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Twenty seven dollars an hour is not expensive, is my point.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So you're I just want to confirm. I don't want
to put words in your mouth jump from five dollars
and fifteen cent gradually to twenty seven dollars in the
span of three years. That's the plan, right, that's right.
Just wanted to make sure that's right. So, and I think,
how do you plan to get these proposals? We're talking
about a twenty seven dollars minimum wage with a Republican
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legislate branch. Potentially tell me a little bit about that. Yeah,
you plan to get this stuff?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Great question. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So right now, we have eighty Democrats in the House,
one hundred Republicans in the House, and then you have
twenty three Democrats in the Senate and thirty three Republicans,
so we're closer to flipping.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
The House than we are in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
A Governor Jackson will let the Speaker of the House
and the Lieutenant governor let them know that there's only,
by law one bill we need to pass.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
That's the budget.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
All the other four thousand bills, all that other stuff.
So if we do not get the bills that I
need to be passed, no bills will get passed. I
will veto every bill with exception of that budget. We
got to demonstrate courage.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I want to ask you this. This is something I
ask every candidate, and I think it defines a candidacy.
Would you what is your what was your state income
tax proposal? I want it gone.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So there are a lot of candidates who and I
appreciate them following my lead, but a lot of them
saying let's just do away with it overnight.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I think that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
We're gonna my plan, my vision is to do it
in a very incremental approach.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We're gonna start off with taking care.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Of our seniors, go to phase it out.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, we're gonna phase it out. We're gonna take care
of our seniors, those are over the age of sixty five.
We're gonna take care of our military veterans they will
also be state tax exempt. Our educators K through twelve educators,
and our nurses. Let's start there, those who are serving
every day, those who have served already, right, unfixed incomes.
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So we're gonna start with those four categories, and then
we're gonna see how we you know, because I can't predict,
you know, our economic health in the future, right, We're
going to see how we do over that period of time.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And also we're gonna leverage our surplus.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
No, we got a fourteen point eight billion dollar surplus,
so we're gonna use some of that as well.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
If you could choose anyone to tell your fellow Democrats,
do not nominate this person. Who would it be? And
you don't have to answer.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
In terms of the electorates.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
We're not going to win, Oh, Jeff Duncan. We wouldn't
win the general with Jeff Duncan. No, tell me more.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
We will lose if the establishment and the media pushed
Jeff Duncan. I've been on the campaign trail, especially in
rural parts of Georgia. They're not feeling Jeff Duncan because
a lot of them saying he was just Republican two
months ago. I wouldn't trust him, and so we will
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lose significantly if Jeff Duncan is a Democratic nominee.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Interesting perspective, and and and and and One of the
questions I love asking candidates for governor is I want
to name a few counties and tell me.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I know Jason didn't answer that question.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You noticed you watched Jason interview.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Interesting, I studied all of my fellow candidates.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
You're fellow candidates.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
There you go, I'm gonna retired military officer. What do
you expect for me to do?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
You vetted your fellow candidate? Yeah? Did you watch the
Jeff Duncan interviews.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Just like last week at the AJAC Forum, how Jason
and how Jeff Duncan.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
How they answered the question.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Did you notice when Jeff Duncan said he would They
asked him, Hey, can you name one of your favorite governors? Now,
this is after he just made all this hoopola about
why he's now a Democrat?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
You notice his answer? Noah?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
What was his answer?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
He said, Governor Nathan Dial? Like, wait a minute, I
thought you were a reformed person. Now he should have
he should have just said Jimmy Carter. Heck, I would
have give him credit if he would have said zel Miller.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
He said, Nathan Dial, what did you answer?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Well, you know I wasn't there. Why was that because
they changed the rules? Noah, the establishment changed the rules.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Do you think they did that to stop you? Absolutely,
they're trying to silence you. Yeah, you don't like Greg Bustein.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I would just tell you I don't have nothing personal
against Greg Bustein, but I would just tell you I'm
working against the establishment.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You are right, okay, and you know that.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
But I'm also working harder to reach all one hundred
and fifty nine counties.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It just gives me more fuel because this is not
the first time in my life I've been a dark horse.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Why do you think get AJAC is trying to stop
you individually? They have all those candidates there, Why stop
representative Jacks.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Because they want Jeff Duncan.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Just look at the Jason.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
They're not concerned with Michael Thurman. They're focusing on promoting
Jeff Duncan.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You know I love I love Atlanta media. I'm sure
you do too. I saw your Atlanta Voice interview. How
was that?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
It was great? It was great at any time, and
this interview is great.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I think these types of conversations, right, You're asking some
very thoughtful questions, and I am making my hardest to
be very clear and succinc because I'm speaking from the heart.
I'm speaking from a place of of when I served
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in the military, realizing that as an officer leading other
officers and sailors that my decisions very well could have
cost them their life, right and being engaged with their
families after every deployment, and so we have a responsibility
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to you and your listening audience to be open and
clear and not and stop this superficial response.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Is right, I'm not going to ask your favorite color representative, Jack.
So you noticed that too, right, and you asked me
if I watched it. I didn't, right, because it's unbearable.
I'm not going to sit there and ask them Keyshlens,
Bottoms how they feel about Charlie Kirk. I'm not I'm
not going to. I'm not gonna. I'm not going to
watch that. I appreciate you answering about the minimum wage,
et cetera, et cetera, and another thing that stuck out
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on your platform. I want to give this the campaign trail.
It was a lot of a lot of very very
progressive ideas, but it concerned me how you could do
that with such a Republican state house in a state
senate in that way, and you have experience in the legislator.
So it forces me to ask you, is this pragmatic?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
The short answer is yes. I mean think let's go
back to twenty twenty. Noah, the world did not anticipate
Georgia to deliver a black man and a Jew to
become a United States Senator.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
They say it's not going to be done, but Georgia
guess what we showed up?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Right? Do you look forward to stating with those two
people if you get the nomination?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Absolutely, But I'm just giving you a clear answer on
why my hope and my faith is true.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I think because Georgians.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Continued to be second guest, right, and we gotta stop
second guessing our families. Right last Tuesday, November fourth, look
what happened across the United States.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Noah, Democrats want across the United States.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
We won two seats that we have not held in
twenty five years. So yes, we're not a red state.
We're a dark purple or light colored blue. My faith
is in God, but I trust the people of Georgia.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
They're going to make the right decision.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
So yes, I'm hopeful that my bold plan to increase
the minimum wage from five dollars and fifteen cents to
fifteen dollars to twenty dollars and then ultimately the twenty
seven dollars. Yes, I believe in Georgians who want to
have access to healthy, quality healthcare across all of Georgia,
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not just in certain counties. There's one hundred and fifty
nine counties, but eighty two counties you cannot even find
an ob g y n.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
In sixty seven counties you can't find a pediatrician.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
So we have to get the base out, right, Yes,
we have to get the base out. And we heard
I think it was yesterday Farrel Williams said that he's
not engaged in politics or whatever. How do you plan
to get a political people out to vote? Tell me
a little, tell me all about that.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I know for real, when I was stationed in Virginia
Beach Norfolk, Virginia, we lived in the same subdivision. Would
and I would tell forharreal and all the other celebrities,
you use your platform and all this stuff about I
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don't get into politics. If you do not get into politics,
politics will get into you. We'll get into your pocketbook,
We'll get into your wallet, will disrupt your household. So
we cannot allow for citizens, regardless us of their economic status,
to silence us.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Six hundred and forty thousand children in Georgia, six hundred
and forty thousand are going to bed hungry. Noah, we
have a responsibility. We all have to use our platform.
And I appreciate you using your platform right and engaging
not just Georgia, but across the United States.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Right, all thirteen fourteen, fifteen year olds. You have a voice.
You may not vote or have the ability to vote,
but you have a voice.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
So we all should use our platform, regardless if you
can vote or not, regardless if you make fifteen million
dollars a year. We have a platform. Let us use it.
Let us do what John Lewis asked us to do,
exercise our moral obligation.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I've been thinking of a way to ask this in
the Derrick Jackson way. You spoke about your qualifications a lot,
and I mean a lot, and so I want to
ask you what bills have you gotten passed in the
during your time as a state legislator.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Oooh man, listen. I'm so appreciative of my team because
they just had me. Over the last nine years. Thirty
eight bills are into law. I've either from you that
I've either authored or co sponsored, right, thirty eight bills
out of three hundred and let me pull it up
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for sure, because we just did this today.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I don't want to misquote myself.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
No worries, no worries at all.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
So in the last nine years. Noah, Yes, sir, three
hundred and fourteen bills.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
My name is on there.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Of that three hundred and fourteen fifty five of those bills,
I've authored two hundred and fifty nine bills. I co
sponsored so out of the bills that three hundred fourteen
thirty eight bills are currently law in Georgia. And some
of my bills were inspired by young people.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Tell me about your favorite one.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I covered seven cities and.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Most of these cities had me to do a public
facilities and a CID Community Improvement Development bill, and that
had inspired the economic growth in District sixty eight to
the degree that three billion dollars of projects were birth
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in my district, four hundred million infrastructure projects in my district,
and it created thirty thousand jobs.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
That's your bill.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
It's multiple bills for each city. So I did one
for the city of Fayetteville, did one for Pea Street City.
I did one for Fairburn. I need to do one
for the town of.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Tyrone your home, right, that's your home.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, yeah, And did one for a city of South
Fords in So is.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
There any one big old bill that you're super proud.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
No, it's all thirty eight of these bills I'm proud of.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
And another thing that I wanted to ask you, and
I know you have to hit the campaign trail, so
I'm be consider of your time. But we had it.
We're having a great time.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I'm trying to get your endorsement.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So I didn't want to be a sis sarrogate right here,
right now in front of you. But long story short,
I liked his time as an educator Atlanta School Board
to the state legislator, and now he's proven himself to
get enough bills passed to be governor and he can
work across the aust no bills pass. We just voted
on a referendum on the Atlanta to November twenty twenty
five ballot, and it did a lot of good for
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seniors with property taxes.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Uh, that was your bill, Noah. I voted yes on
that bill.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
He voted yes. But he's the father of the bill.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
We vote on these bills.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
It's the senator's bill.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, so you're going to give him that one bill
versus my thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
No, sir, which is why I'm using that as an example.
He said, what bill I said, that was one of
my persons fad. That's something he ran out on. That's
something he's proud of. I just listed that one out.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's their one. No, sir, I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Your vote, and now you know, with no de Brosso,
we'll be right back. Representative Jackson, I have to I
have to ask you the only thing when we were
talking about your bills, right, I just wanted to know
it's like a bill that you did yourself.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Vaping bill. About that bill. I put my vaping bill
a saving line.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Why did anyone still Jason probably tax bill? And I'm
not giving you hard time.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
No, no, no, no, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
If you look at why they voted for Jason A.
Steves bill, if that is his bill, I got to
look it up because we go through four thousand bills.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It's because of the two bills that he voted yes
with them. Quick pro quote.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
If there's nothing else that you have not learned since
you met me, Noah, never compromise on your values and
your integrity. I don't care what folks offer you, how
much money they offer you the title. Don't compromise on
your values. Always stick to the things that your parents
taught you. Right, and so I truly believe without knowing
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that he voted yes on two Republican bills, Center Bill
two forty four and Cenate.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Bill eighty two. So why wouldn't they vote for us.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It's not a bill, it's not a bill for bill.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
This is yes no, yes, no.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
No, that's what you see on the outside.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I'm telling you how the sausage is being made on
the inside. Yes, noah, they're trading horses, they're trading bills.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
So okay, let's say, and I'm trying to give. And
by the way, if anyone wants to make a donation
to the representative's website, vote Derek Jackson dot org. If
you are very if you like, if you're being if
you're like myself, and you appreciate what he is saying
and the direct answers he's giving. I really appreciate you
being direct and you're not saying let's I really appreciate that.
I want to ask you why could why why would
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they say like a voter who says, I saw that
property tax bill that helped me out, I saw other bills,
why didn't dare Jackson do the compromise or whatever? The game.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
What would you say to that I voted yes on
that bill?
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You vote yes on his bill?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Good see, because the bill may you know, it may
say Senate Bill one, two three or House Bill four
five six. Both chambers must vote on the bills yay
or nay. Right, So let's pull up that bill when
we get off the show and see how I voted
on that bill.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I'm not telling you to get me credit.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
I didn't say you didn't. I didn't say no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
I'm just letting you know how this process is done. Yeah,
how they do trade horses, and how they will take
a hijack.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
We call it hijacking bill.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Right, I've never it was just surprising me. I've never
heard a representative, whether that's in Congress or in the
state House, say my bill was stolen and that's all
me and I would run an add on it.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yeah, because I just think that I have more time
to talk about the things that matter most instead of
the inside politics. Right, you're very astute, Right, you're you're
you're be on your years. No, you'll be on your years.
But this is not the kind of conversation every day
that I'm having with other thirteen, fourteen, fifteen year olds. Right,
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they want to know can I vote? When I turn eighteen?
Will I be able to start learning how to drive
a car. So they are different kind of conversations. So
I appreciate this conversation that we're having right now. So
when we pass bills, and let's be clear, we don't
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get that many democratic bills pass, right, we just don't. Right,
three hundred and seventy eight bills reached the governor's desk.
Of that three hundred seventy eight, only four of them
were Democratic bills.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
In one of and and the senators got crossed finished line.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
That's right, But that senator needed some support from the
House too, And.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
The people of Georgia are grateful for your support on that.
But I do want to I do want to get
to another reason.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
And you, but it's all about helping families.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
So when you're right, so again that bill, I voted
yes because homestead exemption helps families.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Do you have a choice for lieutenant governor right now?
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I don't. I'm gonna be rore. I don't like any
of them.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I don't, but that's cool. I don't.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I let me tell you where I've been focusing on
and I've been focusing on families. I've been focusing on rights.
What can a Governor Jackson do for families? And rights
in the military. So I haven't been paying attention to
lieutenant governor, attorney general and all them other races. Right now,
I'm focusing on the candidates who are in my race.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I'm studying them. Hopefully they're studying me.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Well, no, you know what, I know they're studying me, Noah,
because they're starting to talk like me.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
They're starting to talk like you.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yes, really, yes, here's a perfect example.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Hit me, Jason as theevest said we should start pre
k out at the age of three.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
He's been saying that since the school boar.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
So he should have wrote a bill during his three
years to say that pragmatism. No, no, I'm using your metric, Noah.
He was in the Senate for three years. He did
not introduce any kind of legislation to even create the conversation.
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But for ten years, I've been talking about the minimum
wage five Okay, for ten years, I've been talking about
the minimum wage for ten years. I've been talking about
improved and.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I think for ten years I would have criticized the
plan twenty seven dollars for California is a bit much.
And we're in the state of Georgia, and people might
be listening to this and say, while he cares for
the people, know you wowling.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
So so my plan is no different than Mandami's.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, that's okay, New York twenty thirty, all the way
in twenty thirty New York City, et cetera. We're in
Georgia and.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
We're sitting on fourteen point eight billion dollars surplus.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
And we kind of want to stay in a surplus
and not a deficit.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Hospitals are closing pragmatic solutions.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
I know, but the Rainy Day Fund is not being
used when it's raining.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
It's raining outside.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I was so successful at General Electric because I understand
taking a pragmatic approach. It's the same thing I did
than the military. I understand economics. I got a master's
in economics. I'm working on my PhD.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
I don't think Jason s is working on people, okay.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
But anyway, so I understand economic development, is what I'm
telling you. My thesis is on economic development.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
And some may say, your uncle Derek worked for a
major corporation. What can he say about small business because
he's telling them to pay people twenty seven dollars an hour.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
And I'm telling you, I understand small business. I've studied this.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
You're promising, you're pinky promising, But you're pinky promising. But
people may say I need the record to show.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
For it, but I also listen.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I've been talking to small business owners the last three
and a half four None.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Of them said they're uncomfortable with twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
No, a lot of them saying thank you for seeing us,
thank you for listening to us. We're family owned businesses.
We have our dreams wrapped up in this business. We
finally will have a go that can see us and
hear us.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
They didn't say I'm trying to bankrupt them. They're saying
thank you, just like the small the small farmers are
saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
That's what I wanted to get on. This is a
great part. You've been really looking out for black farmers.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, you got to show up first, Noah and have
a conversation and then just listen.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Tell me about your black farmers right now. I loved it.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
So one of the things that the small black farmers
are asking for us at the state government level is
to help keep their land, don't.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Take their land.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
What's your plan for black farmers? Right?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
We gotta look at the tax the tax code for
small farm You can't equate small farmers at the same
rate as large commercial farmers.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
That's wrong. You can't put them in the same basket.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
You're always at a farm. So tell me about some
of the farms you've been to.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah, so we've been to a farm down in Chris, Georgia, Cordial, Waynesboro, Georgia, Swainsboro, Habersham.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
See a lot of the things with those towns, I
feel uncomfortable and so that's another thing I want to
ask you.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
You will be take security.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
With first black right be one of the first black
governors represented Jackson. Do you feel safe in these cities?
How do you feel how do you feel for black
people that say I don't feel safe in these cities?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:19):
So, I truly believe when you think about all one
hundred and fifty nine counties, some of them are very
ruby read and it's concerning just looking at some of
the flags and signage that they have there. So I
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do have security with me. I always have access to
the Georgia State Patrol.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
I know you're grateful for I'm grateful they're keeping you safe.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, so thank you for asking that question about my safety.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
But as a black person.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, no, no, thank you for asking that question.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I appreciate that, but I do not let that intimidate me. Noah,
because I want them to know, as their governor, I'm
going to show up in.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
All one hundred and fifty nine counties. I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Leave a farmer, small farmer behind because they're in a
ruby red county. I'm going to show up. I'm going
to listen to them. I'm going to help them make
sure that they do not lose their land. This one
small black farmer, he told me four generations ago they
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had one thousand acres, you know what they.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Have today to three hundred.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Is there any specific bills that you've introduced to combat
some of this.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
No, but I will I will certainly entertain because I'm
not a subject matter expert, and so I will listen
to those who are in this space to help us
develop the right legislation to make sure that the fourth
generation lose seven hundred acres of land. Noah, over what
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how for generations? Right, and they've been taxed out of
they God is not making no more land, He's not
making no more land. And so we got to make
sure that these families are protected, and we got to
make sure that they're not taxed out of their land.
We got to make sure that in all South Georgia,
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Southwest Georgia, Southeast Georgia, these farmers they should know they
have a governor that's going to show up. And so
we're gonna even have a grant for small farmers how.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Much you know, let's start off with fifty tho how
a year because you're playing earlier off. Yes, yes, Noah,
this rainy day fund is about to turn to a
Hell no, when do we were gonna dry up? No,
we look out for Georgia.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Can we still make money every year? It's not a
static it's a very dynamic process. That fourteen billion dollars
didn't show up overnight. It was over the course of years.
So when when we create our budget, we're gonna be pragmatic.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
We're gonna make sure, but we're.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Also gonna be progressive because if I can't take care
of you today, DMN, why am I trying to tell you,
Bill hope for tomorrow. The six hundred and forty thousand
children that are going to bed tonight, knowahre hungry. I
can't ask them to pay attention in classroom tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
You support a free school launch for everyone in Georgia. Yes,
why didn't you resign?
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Thank you for asking that question because I made a
two year commitment to the citizens of.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
District sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
I'm so I can chew bubba gum and walk and
talk at the same time. My mother taught me that.
The United States Navy taught me that. Ge taught me that,
And guess what I learned. I can do the same
thing as a state representative. So guess what I'm going
to do. Noah, I'm going to I'm going to introduce
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bills come January when we go back in the session
to help small farmers right by me. Staying in office
allows for me to do exactly what you're asking me
to do.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Got a fundraise, Representative, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I know, and we are. I got a phenomenal team.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Good.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Yes, you know what the average donation we're receiving right now, Noah,
two hundred and fifty five dollars and seventeen cents. It's
the average donation. We will pray over to ten dollars,
just like we will pray over the one thousand dollars donation.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Right, would you say that ten dollars is a lot
for a small business owner who just wants to support
your campaign.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
I think we're stronger of Georgia based on what I
have witness if we keep doing what we're doing. Noah,
keep bringing in the world right, where's the World Business Airport?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Noah are here all right?
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Guess who's coming to Georgia next year? Noah, World Cup.
Guess who's coming back for another Super Bowl? Noah in
twenty twenty eight, We're going to be making money.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Noah.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
If someone said, for example, Jason Svez is the education candidate,
what Candida?
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Are you the governor that's gonna take care of families?
Speaker 1 (54:34):
And that's your campaign promise?
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Absolutely, there you go.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
And I really appreciate you for being unfiltered, honest and
telling all. I really really appreciate you for coming on
and follow.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Me on Derek Jackson on all social media, and I'm
coming to TikTok soon, Noah, and.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Go to vote Dereckjackson dot org.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
And the next time you interview any one of my
fellow candidates, say, uh, represented Jackson put something out there.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
He wants to know, are you qualified to be the
commander in chief?
Speaker 1 (55:10):
You know I'm gonna do it too, right, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
Do But I also need your listening audience because you
go across the United States. You don't have to live
in Georgia to go to vote dere Jackson dot org.
Click donate, Come on, no and see and donate. I
appreciate you, nephew. That's why you still my nephew. Hey,
you represented Jackson put the put the marker out there?
Are you qualified to be commander in chief? And is
(55:34):
your first lady more qualified his first lady?
Speaker 1 (55:37):
First lady debate?
Speaker 2 (55:40):
No, let's do a first right here.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
We'll do it here.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Like that idea.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
You will be the first in the United States to
have a first lady debate.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Come on, no us do this show man is onto something?
Speaker 1 (55:58):
What website?
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Low one vote Derek Jackson dot org.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
That's d E R R I C K J A
Z K s O N dot org and click donate.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
All right, all right, he's still my nephew.
Speaker 3 (56:12):
All Rober.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
This episode really represents the goal of the Midterm series, unfiltered,
nonscripted conversations about what it means to run for these
high offices. And in the Midterm series, we're gonna explain
everything from what a midterm even is, why these people
are the best candidate, and getting them away from their
pr answers. And I am so thankful for Senator Steves
(56:35):
for coming on the show, as well as Jack Duncan
and of course my friend Representative Derek Jackson. If you enjoyed,
please leave a review for us, and I really appreciate it.
Followed me on the socials at Noade Barross Okay and
O W A D E B A R A S
O and I will see you on the next episode.
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