August 6, 2025 • 34 mins
In this episode, Knowa links up with music legend Macy Gray while she's on tour—and yes, Knowa’s riding with her.
They get into what it really means to be yourself in public, how that kind of honesty becomes a magnet, and why giving people even a few minutes of relief through music is a responsibility, not just a job.
They talk touring, legacy, the politics of performance, and how entertainment can move people the way policy does—just through a different door. Macy also clears the air on past headlines and explains why she still believes in physical CDs and showing up with intention.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now you know and know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Recent Choice Media.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
All Right, so.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm thirteen, which means when Macy Gray was first blowing up,
I wasn't even here yet.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But I still know who she was.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Not because she sat down and gave me a music
history lesson, but because her voice just shows up on soundtracks,
on shows, on stage, it always cuts through.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Macy Gray is not just a legend.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She's one of those artists you don't forget once you
hear her, and for a lot of kids coming up now,
she's proof that you don't have to change who you
are to take up space. That's why I wanted to
talk to her. How are you, Miss Gray. I'm good,
I'm excited. I was so excited to talk to you,
Like I didn't go to sleep until nine am.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm being serious.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Why did you go to sleep at nine am?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Because I was so excited to talk to you?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I know, but it was already morning, you miss we
just stayed up.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, well, I I when was the last time you
did like a? Because I was looking I was I'm
so excited to talk to her. When was the last
time you did like a full interview and stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Oh it's been a minute. I'm not I'm not a
big press lover, but yeah, it's been a minute. But
I do have a record coming out, so I'll probably
be doing a lot of prests.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You're actually my.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
First am I hopefully I'm the favorite.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Hopefully it's gonna be right, It's gonna be And I
really appreciate you coming on seriously, thank you. So tell
me about this new record. What's you What do you
want people to know about it?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Oh, it's so we're actually still working on it, but
we have a single coming out on July eleventh. We
covered Alicia Keys No One. It's really beautiful. And I
say that with all modesty. Even if it wasn't my record,
I would say that about it, you.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Know if so, if I made it, you would still
say that.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, I was still saying.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
So.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You've done several sold out shows while we were booking
this interview.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Tell me about your time during that tour.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Uh, well, we went to Europe. I'm actually a lot
more popular in Europe that I am here. Really, Yes,
Oh we had a ball yeah, most of that.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I think all but three of the shows were sold
out and you know, it's it's good to see the world,
you know, especially, it's just refreshing. It's just something everybody
should do.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
When you went to Europe, did you feel like I
got away, I'm out of here peace.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yes, Yeah, there's you know, there's so much going on
here and and uh, you know, every every every country
has has their issues. But I don't think anybody's going
through what we're going through. And then of course there
are countries going through way worse than what book, at
least not in Europe.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Who's been? Who's who have you been with the whole time?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Who's it? How's it been? Where's it Benny has been?
Tell me about how exciting tour has been.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We went all over Europe.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
We went to East Europe, in Poland, Slovakia and Slovakia,
we went to uh, Czech Republic. I'm really popular there, Yeah,
I did, why and then and then we went to
the normal ones, you know, Milan in Paris and blah
blah blah. So uh, it's it's amazing seeing the world.
You just get a different take on things. The air
(03:11):
is different, you know, the people talking in different languages
is good for you soul, you know, it's like a reboot.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And where can they get like your
tour tickets?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Would you say? The website was again, it was really easy.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You can get on a macigraad tours dot com or
in your favorite ticket outlet.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, you can get ticket to everywhere for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And you and you Hollywood, So they could just google
you and put tickets and you're good, right, Google me right, yes, yes, exactly,
Google me, mate. And what's your message to the black
community right now? I mean, we talk about what's going
on here? What's your message to the black community here
in America?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Are you talking about like the administration?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, okay, okay. So I think the reason that that
Donald Trump is where he is is because he had
a plan and he executed it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He had a crew at the gang and.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
He had the balls, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And I think the last time we get somebody like
that and our culture was honestly, Martin Luther King. He
had like a long term strategy, He had the people
to set it up, he had the means, and they
executed and that's why he was able to change the world.
And that's why Donald Trump has been able to change
the world. So I think it's it's cool to have opinion,
(04:33):
and I definitely don't want to be dumped in the
pile of people as an opinion. But I do know
that if you want things to be different, you have
to strategize, you have to come up with a plan,
and you have to execute. Like sitting back hoping things
get better and hoping we get to vote in the
year like that's really that's probably gonna be our downfall.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Right, did you endorse in the race, and if so,
why and if not, why not.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I didn't do anything publicly, but yeah, I was. I
was rooting for Kamala. I thought it was cool.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I thought she was amazing, right, and I noticed I
One day, I got the notification that you followed me,
and I followed you back almost instantly.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I was so excited. How'd you find me?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I don't know. I looked at you.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Of course, when I got your emails, I was like,
who is this and I said, oh, because of course
I've seen you online, but I didn't put the names together.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I appre I so so so appreciate you coming on.
And I originally learned about you from your Fuller House appearance,
which I loved so so much. Tell me about that?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
What was that? Like?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It was fun?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
It's you know it all that that stuff. It's like,
you know, one day on set and you just go
have fun. You know, you're not trying to win to
osk her. You're just trying to have a good time,
you know, cause.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You already won a Grammy. You don't need none of that.
You don't need none of that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And I've had this conversation with other music legends. Do
you think influencers are at least trying to replace real
iconic work, because you know, TikTok is taken over and stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I think real talent that will always be around. I
think people recognize real talent. But I also think that
people like we like meaningless stuff. We like fifteen seconds
of somebody doing something stupid, and I think that's okay.
I don't think either one replaces the other, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, what a great take.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So speaking of what was going on, so we don't
get you too deep into it, I had to defend
myself from attacks due to political endorsements. Most of them
say those were the platform shouldn't endorse for whatever reason,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What's your response to that.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I think if you have a solution, I think you
should talk all day, even if your solution probably won't work.
But I think if you offer people it's some way
to make the situation better, and then.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You execute it, then you can't lose.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
But social media is kind of set up for comments
and opinion, and everyone is welcome to do that. I
just think that if you really are a serious about
things changing, then then you have to be active in
that you have. There has to be more than more
than words, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, how do you think your endorsement would have made
a difference publicly? More so publicly, I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think, like like, when I vote, I don't vote
because some a celebrity or anybody tells me. I vote
for who I believe honestly, who I think is telling
the truth.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know so.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But but I'm sure people you know, if there's somebody
out there who sees Beyonce and they say, oh my god,
she's endorsing, maybe I should do it too, and it's
for the good, and then that's great. But I think
your average person votes selfishly. I think you vote for yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, and to get a better feel of your policy.
What would you say your platform is? For example, mine
would be lower taxes, criminal justice reform, and luxury condos nationwide.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
What would do your platform be?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
That would be your flat ball? Oh you, I'd be like, yeah,
he knows what he's doing for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
For sure, I appreciate that. We got to hit a
quick break. So don't go anywhere you're listening to now,
you know. So I wanted to ask you a bit
(08:28):
of a quiz question. What president signed the Emmett til
Anti Lynching Act into law? Was it Barack Obama? Joe Biden,
Bill Clinton?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Or Lyndon B. Johnson?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Wasn't that Biden?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Uh? Huh okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I've asked this before and people were like, uh, Obama,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And that which president?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
What candidates supported a tax cut for one hundred million Americans,
fifteen dollars hour minimum wage and expanding prescription drug costs?
Trump or Kamala Harris?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Fifteen dollars minimum wage? That would have been That was
Trump right because she wanted them to higher.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That was Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
She wanted it raised in general, And fifteen dollars is
kind of like the standing point for a higher minimum wage.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh see, I live in California. The minimum wage here.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Is fifty dollars two hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yes, so when you said fifteen, I assumed it was
him because it was lower.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, we're in a country, United state.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, he wants it at like seven dollars twenty five
hours twenty five cent, seven dollars twenty five cent. Really,
and where you were recording and where you're going to be,
make sure you go see her in Augusta, Georgia. Get
your tickets where we're going to be. It's five dollars
and fifteen cents. So when you're going to be in Augusta,
and everyone should go buy your tickets for Augusta. When
(09:52):
you when you come there, can I meet you? I
will fly there.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Absolutely. You want to introduce me when hop on stage?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh sure, okay, that would be amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Where do you live?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I live in Atlanta, so it's not too far at all.
How you can't yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah? Yeah? Actually yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
How old are you?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Thirteen?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
You jump in the car and when they go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I probably would never drive. I don't like driving. We
mean there, it's so overrated, it is it is.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, but but yeah, let me know and we'll talk
about if you want to get on stage.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I appreciate that, and and and and I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I'm so excited and.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And to to to ask you this. This is the
probably the trickiest one I have on this paper. I
was so excited to ask it because it's like she's
gonna know it because she knows everything what I think
you do.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
You see, when you get married, you realize you know nothing.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You know how to win a grammy? What president's campaign
promise was to end welfare as we know it?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Trump? Bush or Clinton?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Oh god, okay, they've all had welfare policies.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The one that was and Welfare as we know it?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Clinton.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, see, I told you you know everything. I told you.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I just like something he would say.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, I told you you know everything.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
How many Supreme Court justices are there? Six, three, nine
or twelve?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh no, you're getting in deep.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I didn't know this either.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
It's nine, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Nine, six and three? Yeah. Wow, you haven't gotten a
single one wrong. I don't think.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Well that was just okay. So they have to have
a majority vote, so you know it's not twelve or six. Yeah,
and you know it's not three. So the only thing
left was nine. Yeah, multiple toys.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And the last one is what year was Kamala Harris
worn in twenty twenty twenty twenty one or twenty nineteen?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
What year was she?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
What sworn in? Like she became the official vice president.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Okay, so you're sworn in January, So.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Twenty twenty twenty twenty one. So January twenty twenty one,
following November five.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh that's right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That's okay, Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And would you say, like, would you are you one
of the people that say I hate politics or I
love it, but I would love to get to know
even more.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
No, I've always been interested in politics.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I think you.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I think it's odd to say to live in a
country and not be involved in what's going on. So
it's I know, it's cool to say I'm not political
and I don't even pay that so much attention, but
that that's like living in a house and not noticing
that the water is cut off, or the toilet don't work,
or the gas stove is on. You know, like you
(12:52):
you have to be aware of your surroundings. You know,
you don't have to run for office, but I just
think people should know what's going on, you know, because
it affects you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I'm not gonna ask one of them cringe questions. They
be asking people, are you gonna run for president?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm not gonna ask you that. I promise. Can they
be asking me? I'm like, no, leave me home.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You probably will do you think, what are you gonna do?
What do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
If you support me, I will run for president. It's
up to you.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You could totally be president. But what is it? What
do you want to do? Is that what you want
to do?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I like I okay, so I like doing what I
do now. And last time they asked me on an interview,
I said, I want to be Noah, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You want to do? You want to interview people? You
want like a TV show where you like just a podcast?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I like both, and I also like doing I like
how I do my interviews and then I give answers
and then there's a headline and then I walk out
and it's more headlines.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You like it, you like the attention I do your hand.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I be clip farming, Miss Graby Cliff Farman. You know
I be, I be attention farming. That's right, That's right.
So I want to ask you this, how do you
think not only are you making great music, but you're
also influencing decisions. I call everyone who people knows names
and influencer. Not only if you're TikTok dancing, but everyone
(14:16):
who has some sort of name recognition is an influencer.
So how do you think that you have made a difference?
Just not it's not a political question, just in general.
Have your tour How do you think your tours have
benefited the economy? For example, when we do our show,
our show in AUGUSTA, we're gonna be bringing in the
sales tax dollars and stuff. So how do you think
(14:37):
you influence that kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You know?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
So a lot of people don't understand entertainment is it's
a break right, So when you hear your favorite song
for three minutes, you don't have to think, well, you
probably I don't know if you have bills, but whatever,
you know, you don't think about it anymore. You know,
you're not thinking about driving, You're not whatever you going
back with. You want something about this interview. I'm finna do.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I don't want to do.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I got, I got a TV interview in a few days.
I'm just scared for Oh, stay.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
For three minutes.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You don't got to think about it. If you go
to a movie two hours, you get a two hour break.
And so that's what entertainment, that's its job. It's supposed
to make you forget, put a smile on your face.
It's a break. And that that's what you that's what
people pay for. That very mental and emotional, right and
(15:32):
so and then so when when I get on stage,
that's what I do. I just everybody leaves happy. They
leave they're in a better mood. You know, if they
were fighting with their husband, they leave and they're getting
along because they're home during their favorite song, you know
what I mean. And so that that's what entertainment. And
remember people listen to your podcast for or I get
(15:54):
this one's about thirty minutes. For thirty minutes, they don't
have to worry about homework and work, about the fight
they just had with their little sister, you know what
I mean. So that's what I do. That's my influence
for you know, I give everybody a moment I give
you a break, I'll give you a little piece of
happiness in your day.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And especially in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Do you prefer the old method of go to the store,
get the CD or do you like this just go
on Spotify and stream Macy Gray, which you should.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I'm not a fan of streaming. I think it's good
for the fair. I think it's convenient, it's you know,
it saves you from having to go to the store
and by the CD. But I think it's it's really
trashed the music business. And I think your generation is
going to have a hard time finding really really good
music because it's they're making it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So that'stre they're cooked. They're cooked. They don't know what
they're gonna do, right. I don't listen to music, so
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't see myself putting on the headphones and then
putting on a.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Song and be like, ooh you YoY. You know what
I'm saying. It's difficult.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yees see, that's your interpretation of music today, and that's
the problem. That's probably why you're not listening. But if
you how old are your parents?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Thirty eight?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
So that's what the nineties.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Listen to your mom and dad's music for sure, and
I bet you'll get into music really nineties, eighties, seventies.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, what's your favorite song you've ever made that I've
ever made.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, I have a song on my first album called
I've Committed Murder.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's why I think that's one of the best songs
in Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So has anyone really now, especially in digital streaming, do
you find it kind of hard to keep up with? Okay,
what's my Spotify doing, what's my Apple, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
No, man, I didn't even look at that stuff. I
don't even know what a monthly user is.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Really, you don't look at your your Spotify and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Now because it's waste time.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It's it's it's it's it's you know, like you do
a billion streams and you make.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Eighty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, wants to sell a billion of something and make
eighty thousands pathetic? I just I don't even so you
pray it'll make me start cursing.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So you definitely prefer like the old, the older method
of going to the store.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Get the CD. It's an asset, you got the hold it,
you got to play it. When it got scratched, Go
get another one. It's it's an experience that you're involved in. Yeah,
pushing a right and then listen to a song. That's cool.
But it was just it was just a much better
and people made better music because they had to, because
because having an album or or or vinyl was was
(18:41):
so precious people.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Do you like any newer artists? Of course, yeah, like
a lot of new artists for sure. Do you do
you mess with Megan the Stallion?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I think she's gorgeous. I think she's beautiful. I'm I'm
not a big rap thing.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Oh so you don't do rap? You don't do rap?
Do you see your off making? Like maybe a small
rap song, just a tiny thirty second rap song.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay, my name is Macy. I'm not lazy. I'd be
racing cars.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You try, Yeah, you do? You do?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And I we're not gonna be racing cars because we
don't like driving, do we?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Neither one of us?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know that's neither one of us.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Did you make it? First to say did you make it?
Fare well?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
My love?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Goodbye, gladst night in the Pimps. Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I thought you made it, didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's why you gotta listen to your grandma's music. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
She was excited about our interview. Actually, she was really excited. Yeah,
tell her, I said, yeah, So what about your United
States tour are you? Are you mostly excited for the
venue is the same kind of like the same as
when it was in Europe, because you said you are very,
very very popular in Europe.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Is it going to be around the same.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I'm a little nervous because, uh, you know, in Europe,
I'll put my show up and tickets going to and
you know, five minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Two weeks.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Out here, it's a lot slower, Like I have a
few shows that aren't sold yet. There's a couple that
we gotta figure something out. So it's it's a little
bit more of a hustle for me out here.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
So but that's cool though.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It's a challenge for me, you know, Like I like
that hustle, Like that's actually my favorite thing about it
is getting people to buy my tickets.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah. And Augusta is gonna be packed. It's gonna be
gonna be packed.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I'm gonna I'm literally gonna post it every day.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It's gonna be crazy. It is, Okay, I'm gonna make
sure I'll talk to you people, and I'll see if
we can get you on the bill.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Breathe for a sec. Things are hitting up and we're
just getting started. This is now, you know, be right back.
So I have a bit of a problem that I
want if you for a few more minutes. I want
to find kind of a solution to with you. So
in California, you live in you live in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Right I do?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Do you like it?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's okay, okay? And so in Los Angeles there's three
problems people talk about. You got the homelessness, the higher
taxes in the and the I think affordability is a
big one people talk about. So I'm on the first two,
homelessness and lower taxes. What is your big solution? What
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is your big idea? What is Macy Gray's big idea
on these issues?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Homelessness?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Actually may Or baths that they talk about her so bad,
but she's done an amazing job with with the homelessness.
It's I mean, of course it hasn't gone away, but
it's not even half as bad as it used to be.
And I don't know what she did, but I know
they spend a lot of money on on on the
housing and stuff like that. But it's it's actually a
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lot better than it used to be. Really, So the taxes,
that's just greed. There's no reason for our taxes to
be what they are.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Do you hate him? Do you hate him?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yes, it's absurd. It's almost that. I think it is
ten percent.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
It is high ten percent, ten point seventy five percent
in Oakland.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
So it's wild.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, it's wild. Whyfe what do you like your governor?
Gavin Nusso.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I don't see him making it past this term.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I think he went through some kind of midlife crisis
and he started interviewing other politicians and taking the side
of people who hated him, and I think he confused people. Yeah,
so once you confuse people, that's when, even if what
you're doing is horrible, it just has to be consistent
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and people have to believe you. And I don't know
if people believe him anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Have you met some of these people, like, for example,
carebas or like maybe a senator or or something like that.
Have you met these politicians or are you like I'm
trying to stay far away from as possible.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
No, I know, Karen, she actually had I had a
fundraiser for her at my house.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Really, Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's like the police team. I know, I know some people, Yeah,
you know comes you know, as far as the White House.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I don't know any of those guys, right, you mean
I used to. I used to go up there, but
I don't know anymore. As it's pretty it's pretty clear
I don't I don't go up there anymore.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, it seems that it seems like a weird bunch, though,
I feel like i'd be uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, you know that that would be probably the randomest
collab of all time. Macy Gray and then Pete Haggstaff
White Boy wasted, Like.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Oh my goodness, Yeah, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It wouldn't be good. It wouldn't be good at all.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So the viewers are probably gonna be like, what kind
of pivot is this? I do want to ask you
on your phone because I have to ask on your
Fuller House episode, what was kind of like? So did
they give you a script or was it like Macy Gray,
just be Macy Gray.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
No, you get a scream, we got a scramp.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I forget I remember it, I remember it. Yeah, is
there a pink.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Cadillac. It's mine something like that. That's right. That's why
I totally for Yeah, it's mine.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
We gotta get you on TV. You are doing it?
Do you act also?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I would love to, but I'm not right now. I
would love to, though, Well, where did you come from?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Out of the blue, you just started comments.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So I was never a political person, and so basically
I gave an endorsement one day because they were like, hey,
they were the Democrats and the Republicans and every political
party you could think of.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Was kind of how do I say, gaslighting.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Me, saying if you don't use this platform to endorse anyone,
you're selfish, And I was like, wait, you're right, Okay yeah,
And I was like you're right. So I started endorsing
people willingly, people I wanted to support, and so I
started doing it, and then they slowly started appreciating the comments,
the comments more and more, and the first few comments
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were more so like why are we taking advice from
a roadblocks gaming YouTuber on politics?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
It makes no sense?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So it kind of it kind of shines back into
like when people were doing the appearances on the campaign trail,
they were like, what could this person possibly know? About
no tax on tips, which Kamala Harris supported.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, so but how do you know about that though?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
What politics in general?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yes, so that's what I'm asking, Like, are your parents
really political?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Like where where does all that come from?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So they're really uninterested, and so I actually had to
get them registered to vote because they were like, it
doesn't it doesn't affect me. I don't care, and so
I was like, yes it does, and me and Masie
Grego yell at you.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
If you don't register the vote.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So go and do it exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I will vote dot com and no.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But in all seriousness, I just find it interesting and
I like to fight the real policy sisitions. I like
to go on interviews and this them and they.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Be like, how could you say that?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's clear?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's great. It's like a but yeah, I asked your question.
It's like a TV show. And I would love to
I would love to act. I want to do things
in California. I love California. We talked a little mess
about California, but I like it.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, No, California is a lot further'st beautiful, but yeah,
living here is really really expensive.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Where are you from?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Really good job? I'm from Ohio, which is the opposite.
I think Ohio is the eighth cheapest state to live
in or.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, would you live in Ohio?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Now when I'm older, I probably would, But because I
missed things about it, like the four seasons, and you know,
the people are a lot more, you know, have real lives.
Everybody in LA you know, kind of has an agenda.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Like a different planet. But but yeah, I miss all that.
You know, I don't know if I if I go
back and live, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, to be very considerate of your time, I'm going
to ask you this short question. Do you see anything
that Kamala Harris did wrong exactly in the election or
maybe a specific political party did right or wrong?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
No, I don't think she did anything wrong. Like I said,
I think what Donald Trump is really smart about. I
think he was in office and he learned all his lessons,
He made all his mistakes, so he knew what to
do and he made a plan and he put the
people around him that would do that plan for him.
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Like we don't know if Haigsaith actually agrees with him,
but he knew that he would do whatever he said,
you know what I mean, and then and then he
had the courage to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
And so.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
If you want to go against him, you have to
have the same setup, you know. That's why, like I said,
last person I saw do that so geniusly was Martin
Luther King. He's waiting before you, but he changed the
world because because he did all those things, you know,
And like if you want to win football game, you
gotta have your team has to have a plan and
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you guys have to do it and you and you
need a team, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Like if you want to do act and be on.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Movies, it's easy to hope something happens, but you make
a plan and you go make it happen, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, So I just I think that
he put his plan together if he won. I still
I thought those votes came back a little too fast.
But he seems to have really dileg gently put what
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he wants to do together and he's and he's making
that happen. If you want to stop him, he'll have
to do what he did. You have to take the
time and put that together.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Would you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So I wouldn't call this a political I wouldn't have
called that when I'm referring to a political interview. But
between Piers Morgan and like the Fox Stuff and CNN,
what is like your favorite station to go on and
just talk a bunch of politics.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
God, she's so weird now, I don't even know. I
really like, you know what my favorite is?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
How do we go? Go?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Whitfield?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
She's on CNN and she just says the news. She
doesn't get it emotional does She never says you have
no idea how she.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Feels about anything, and you go on there. I've been
on cn in a couple of times, but not on
her show.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And during your Peers Morgan interview, you face controversy for
your take one of your takes on the on the
trans community. What's your current stance and how did you
feel going on that?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I think people got a little over dramatic about it.
You know, I said, just because you change your parts,
does it make you a woman? And that's just that's
just a biological fact. I didn't think anything I was
saying was political or it was definitely not meant to
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in a slide against the trans community. Anybody that knows
me knows that's the last thing I am. But my daughter,
who was twenty three at the time, she said, but you,
she said.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
But you can't tell people who they are. You can't
tell people what they're not due.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And so when she said that, I understood how it
was perceived, and I understood that that it really isn't
my place to tell. Of course, to me it's a fact,
but if to someone else, it's not a fact, and
they have as much right to how they feel about
it as I do. But I just wanted to clarify
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that it was It wasn't a transphobic comment. It wasn't
any I didn't mean to her, and I apologize because
my intention wasn't to hurt anybody. I was just saying
what I thought, which everybody does all day. So and
as a woman, I know that so much it happens
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in your life that makes you a woman. That only
happens to women, you know. So, But you know, I
don't want to bring out again. But I don't have
any kind of I don't know the words animosity. I
don't have anything the gay community on any and anybody
that knows me knows that's the truest thing you're gonna
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hear all day. You know, I'm big on yourself. I'm
big on freedom of thought and whoever you want to be.
You know, I'm downe with whoever you.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Want to be.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
And she was right, it's not my place to tell
you who you are. And if you believe otherwise, you know,
you know, you learn, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Do you feel Peers Morgan? I was invited to Piers
Morgan and I was hesitant.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Do you think he kind of instigates a little bit
in his shows? Are you cool with Piers Morgan?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I've known Peers for a long time and he does
he you know, that's his job, you know what I mean.
I mean, well, if he just set up there and
ask questions, nobody would would watch him. So he definitely
knows what he's doing. I didn't expect him to make
it this big deal that They definitely went out of
their way to to make sure everybody saw that episode. Yeah,
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but you know, that's that's just that's entertainment. Like I said,
you know, that's that's whatever. That's what we all do.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
He'd be Cliff Farming, He'd be Cliff Farming.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, he's good at it. Well, who's your favorite? Who
do you look up to.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Probably my favorite. I don't like a lot of the
news shows, like breaking News. I just hate it. I
go on it and I appear on it and I
say something and then a headline farm and then I
go home, but I just don't like watching it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I don't like any of it.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'm not I'm not gonna call the name, but I
don't like any independent networks who are just like them
but they're saying they're not, but they're just Democrats who
are breaking news partial news, or if they're Republicans doing
partial news the independent media thing.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So I don't like any of it.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
What I do like is I love podcasts and I
love YouTube videos. And speaking of podcasts, people should download
this one. But miss Gray, I appreciate you so so
much for coming on. I can't thank you enough and
you are so so so kind. Alrighty well, I am
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so shocked and thankful that Macy Gray would join us
today for this amazing episode of Now you know. We
got some of the most unfiltered but great answers that
we can possibly think of, and I thank her for
coming on. As we heard, I am going to be
an augusto of Macy Gray on an August, so get
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your tickets at Macy Gray Tours dot com and download
the show. Now you know and no Dave Brosso. Now
you know and know Dave Brosso's orduction of iHeartMedia and
partnership with Reason Choice Media
Now you know and know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Dave Brosso is a production of iHeartMedia and partnership with
Recent Choice Media.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
All Right, so.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm thirteen, which means when Macy Gray was first blowing up,
I wasn't even here yet.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But I still know who she was.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Not because she sat down and gave me a music
history lesson, but because her voice just shows up on soundtracks,
on shows, on stage, it always cuts through.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Macy Gray is not just a legend.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She's one of those artists you don't forget once you
hear her, and for a lot of kids coming up now,
she's proof that you don't have to change who you
are to take up space. That's why I wanted to
talk to her. How are you, Miss Gray. I'm good,
I'm excited. I was so excited to talk to you,
Like I didn't go to sleep until nine am.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm being serious.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Why did you go to sleep at nine am?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Because I was so excited to talk to you?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I know, but it was already morning, you miss we
just stayed up.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, well, I I when was the last time you
did like a? Because I was looking I was I'm
so excited to talk to her. When was the last
time you did like a full interview and stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Oh it's been a minute. I'm not I'm not a
big press lover, but yeah, it's been a minute. But
I do have a record coming out, so I'll probably
be doing a lot of prests.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You're actually my.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
First am I hopefully I'm the favorite.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Hopefully it's gonna be right, It's gonna be And I
really appreciate you coming on seriously, thank you. So tell
me about this new record. What's you What do you
want people to know about it?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Oh, it's so we're actually still working on it, but
we have a single coming out on July eleventh. We
covered Alicia Keys No One. It's really beautiful. And I
say that with all modesty. Even if it wasn't my record,
I would say that about it, you.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Know if so, if I made it, you would still
say that.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, I was still saying.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
So.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You've done several sold out shows while we were booking
this interview.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Tell me about your time during that tour.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Uh, well, we went to Europe. I'm actually a lot
more popular in Europe that I am here. Really, Yes,
Oh we had a ball yeah, most of that.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I think all but three of the shows were sold
out and you know, it's it's good to see the world,
you know, especially, it's just refreshing. It's just something everybody
should do.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
When you went to Europe, did you feel like I
got away, I'm out of here peace.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yes, Yeah, there's you know, there's so much going on
here and and uh, you know, every every every country
has has their issues. But I don't think anybody's going
through what we're going through. And then of course there
are countries going through way worse than what book, at
least not in Europe.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Who's been? Who's who have you been with the whole time?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Who's it? How's it been? Where's it Benny has been?
Tell me about how exciting tour has been.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We went all over Europe.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
We went to East Europe, in Poland, Slovakia and Slovakia,
we went to uh, Czech Republic. I'm really popular there, Yeah,
I did, why and then and then we went to
the normal ones, you know, Milan in Paris and blah
blah blah. So uh, it's it's amazing seeing the world.
You just get a different take on things. The air
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is different, you know, the people talking in different languages
is good for you soul, you know, it's like a reboot.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And where can they get like your
tour tickets?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Would you say? The website was again, it was really easy.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You can get on a macigraad tours dot com or
in your favorite ticket outlet.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, you can get ticket to everywhere for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And you and you Hollywood, So they could just google
you and put tickets and you're good, right, Google me right, yes, yes, exactly,
Google me, mate. And what's your message to the black
community right now? I mean, we talk about what's going
on here? What's your message to the black community here
in America?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Are you talking about like the administration?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, okay, okay. So I think the reason that that
Donald Trump is where he is is because he had
a plan and he executed it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He had a crew at the gang and.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
He had the balls, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And I think the last time we get somebody like
that and our culture was honestly, Martin Luther King. He
had like a long term strategy, He had the people
to set it up, he had the means, and they
executed and that's why he was able to change the world.
And that's why Donald Trump has been able to change
the world. So I think it's it's cool to have opinion,
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and I definitely don't want to be dumped in the
pile of people as an opinion. But I do know
that if you want things to be different, you have
to strategize, you have to come up with a plan,
and you have to execute. Like sitting back hoping things
get better and hoping we get to vote in the
year like that's really that's probably gonna be our downfall.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Right, did you endorse in the race, and if so,
why and if not, why not.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I didn't do anything publicly, but yeah, I was. I
was rooting for Kamala. I thought it was cool.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I thought she was amazing, right, and I noticed I
One day, I got the notification that you followed me,
and I followed you back almost instantly.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I was so excited. How'd you find me?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I don't know. I looked at you.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Of course, when I got your emails, I was like,
who is this and I said, oh, because of course
I've seen you online, but I didn't put the names together.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I appre I so so so appreciate you coming on.
And I originally learned about you from your Fuller House appearance,
which I loved so so much. Tell me about that?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
What was that? Like?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It was fun?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
It's you know it all that that stuff. It's like,
you know, one day on set and you just go
have fun. You know, you're not trying to win to
osk her. You're just trying to have a good time,
you know, cause.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You already won a Grammy. You don't need none of that.
You don't need none of that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And I've had this conversation with other music legends. Do
you think influencers are at least trying to replace real
iconic work, because you know, TikTok is taken over and stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I think real talent that will always be around. I
think people recognize real talent. But I also think that
people like we like meaningless stuff. We like fifteen seconds
of somebody doing something stupid, and I think that's okay.
I don't think either one replaces the other, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, what a great take.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So speaking of what was going on, so we don't
get you too deep into it, I had to defend
myself from attacks due to political endorsements. Most of them
say those were the platform shouldn't endorse for whatever reason,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
What's your response to that.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I think if you have a solution, I think you
should talk all day, even if your solution probably won't work.
But I think if you offer people it's some way
to make the situation better, and then.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You execute it, then you can't lose.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
But social media is kind of set up for comments
and opinion, and everyone is welcome to do that. I
just think that if you really are a serious about
things changing, then then you have to be active in
that you have. There has to be more than more
than words, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, how do you think your endorsement would have made
a difference publicly? More so publicly, I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think, like like, when I vote, I don't vote
because some a celebrity or anybody tells me. I vote
for who I believe honestly, who I think is telling
the truth.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know so.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
But but I'm sure people you know, if there's somebody
out there who sees Beyonce and they say, oh my god,
she's endorsing, maybe I should do it too, and it's
for the good, and then that's great. But I think
your average person votes selfishly. I think you vote for yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, and to get a better feel of your policy.
What would you say your platform is? For example, mine
would be lower taxes, criminal justice reform, and luxury condos nationwide.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
What would do your platform be?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
That would be your flat ball? Oh you, I'd be like, yeah,
he knows what he's doing for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
For sure, I appreciate that. We got to hit a
quick break. So don't go anywhere you're listening to now,
you know. So I wanted to ask you a bit
(08:28):
of a quiz question. What president signed the Emmett til
Anti Lynching Act into law? Was it Barack Obama? Joe Biden,
Bill Clinton?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Or Lyndon B. Johnson?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Wasn't that Biden?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Uh? Huh okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I've asked this before and people were like, uh, Obama,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And that which president?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
What candidates supported a tax cut for one hundred million Americans,
fifteen dollars hour minimum wage and expanding prescription drug costs?
Trump or Kamala Harris?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Fifteen dollars minimum wage? That would have been That was
Trump right because she wanted them to higher.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That was Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
She wanted it raised in general, And fifteen dollars is
kind of like the standing point for a higher minimum wage.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh see, I live in California. The minimum wage here.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Is fifty dollars two hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yes, so when you said fifteen, I assumed it was
him because it was lower.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, we're in a country, United state.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, he wants it at like seven dollars twenty five
hours twenty five cent, seven dollars twenty five cent. Really,
and where you were recording and where you're going to be,
make sure you go see her in Augusta, Georgia. Get
your tickets where we're going to be. It's five dollars
and fifteen cents. So when you're going to be in Augusta,
and everyone should go buy your tickets for Augusta. When
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you when you come there, can I meet you? I
will fly there.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Absolutely. You want to introduce me when hop on stage?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh sure, okay, that would be amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Where do you live?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I live in Atlanta, so it's not too far at all.
How you can't yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah? Yeah? Actually yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
How old are you?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Thirteen?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
You jump in the car and when they go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I probably would never drive. I don't like driving. We
mean there, it's so overrated, it is it is.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, but but yeah, let me know and we'll talk
about if you want to get on stage.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I appreciate that, and and and and I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I'm so excited and.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And to to to ask you this. This is the
probably the trickiest one I have on this paper. I
was so excited to ask it because it's like she's
gonna know it because she knows everything what I think
you do.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
You see, when you get married, you realize you know nothing.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You know how to win a grammy? What president's campaign
promise was to end welfare as we know it?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Trump? Bush or Clinton?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Oh god, okay, they've all had welfare policies.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The one that was and Welfare as we know it?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Clinton.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, see, I told you you know everything. I told you.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I just like something he would say.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, I told you you know everything.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
How many Supreme Court justices are there? Six, three, nine
or twelve?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh no, you're getting in deep.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I didn't know this either.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
It's nine, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Nine, six and three? Yeah. Wow, you haven't gotten a
single one wrong. I don't think.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Well that was just okay. So they have to have
a majority vote, so you know it's not twelve or six. Yeah,
and you know it's not three. So the only thing
left was nine. Yeah, multiple toys.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And the last one is what year was Kamala Harris
worn in twenty twenty twenty twenty one or twenty nineteen?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
What year was she?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
What sworn in? Like she became the official vice president.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Okay, so you're sworn in January, So.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Twenty twenty twenty twenty one. So January twenty twenty one,
following November five.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh that's right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That's okay, Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And would you say, like, would you are you one
of the people that say I hate politics or I
love it, but I would love to get to know
even more.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
No, I've always been interested in politics.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I think you.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I think it's odd to say to live in a
country and not be involved in what's going on. So
it's I know, it's cool to say I'm not political
and I don't even pay that so much attention, but
that that's like living in a house and not noticing
that the water is cut off, or the toilet don't work,
or the gas stove is on. You know, like you
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you have to be aware of your surroundings. You know,
you don't have to run for office, but I just
think people should know what's going on, you know, because
it affects you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I'm not gonna ask one of them cringe questions. They
be asking people, are you gonna run for president?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm not gonna ask you that. I promise. Can they
be asking me? I'm like, no, leave me home.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You probably will do you think, what are you gonna do?
What do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
If you support me, I will run for president. It's
up to you.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You could totally be president. But what is it? What
do you want to do? Is that what you want
to do?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I like I okay, so I like doing what I
do now. And last time they asked me on an interview,
I said, I want to be Noah, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You want to do? You want to interview people? You
want like a TV show where you like just a podcast?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I like both, and I also like doing I like
how I do my interviews and then I give answers
and then there's a headline and then I walk out
and it's more headlines.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You like it, you like the attention I do your hand.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I be clip farming, Miss Graby Cliff Farman. You know
I be, I be attention farming. That's right, That's right.
So I want to ask you this, how do you
think not only are you making great music, but you're
also influencing decisions. I call everyone who people knows names
and influencer. Not only if you're TikTok dancing, but everyone
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who has some sort of name recognition is an influencer.
So how do you think that you have made a difference?
Just not it's not a political question, just in general.
Have your tour How do you think your tours have
benefited the economy? For example, when we do our show,
our show in AUGUSTA, we're gonna be bringing in the
sales tax dollars and stuff. So how do you think
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you influence that kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You know?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
So a lot of people don't understand entertainment is it's
a break right, So when you hear your favorite song
for three minutes, you don't have to think, well, you
probably I don't know if you have bills, but whatever,
you know, you don't think about it anymore. You know,
you're not thinking about driving, You're not whatever you going
back with. You want something about this interview. I'm finna do.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I don't want to do.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I got, I got a TV interview in a few days.
I'm just scared for Oh, stay.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
For three minutes.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You don't got to think about it. If you go
to a movie two hours, you get a two hour break.
And so that's what entertainment, that's its job. It's supposed
to make you forget, put a smile on your face.
It's a break. And that that's what you that's what
people pay for. That very mental and emotional, right and
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so and then so when when I get on stage,
that's what I do. I just everybody leaves happy. They
leave they're in a better mood. You know, if they
were fighting with their husband, they leave and they're getting
along because they're home during their favorite song, you know
what I mean. And so that that's what entertainment. And
remember people listen to your podcast for or I get
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this one's about thirty minutes. For thirty minutes, they don't
have to worry about homework and work, about the fight
they just had with their little sister, you know what
I mean. So that's what I do. That's my influence
for you know, I give everybody a moment I give
you a break, I'll give you a little piece of
happiness in your day.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And especially in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Do you prefer the old method of go to the store,
get the CD or do you like this just go
on Spotify and stream Macy Gray, which you should.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I'm not a fan of streaming. I think it's good
for the fair. I think it's convenient, it's you know,
it saves you from having to go to the store
and by the CD. But I think it's it's really
trashed the music business. And I think your generation is
going to have a hard time finding really really good
music because it's they're making it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So that'stre they're cooked. They're cooked. They don't know what
they're gonna do, right. I don't listen to music, so
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't see myself putting on the headphones and then
putting on a.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Song and be like, ooh you YoY. You know what
I'm saying. It's difficult.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yees see, that's your interpretation of music today, and that's
the problem. That's probably why you're not listening. But if
you how old are your parents?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Thirty eight?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
So that's what the nineties.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Listen to your mom and dad's music for sure, and
I bet you'll get into music really nineties, eighties, seventies.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, what's your favorite song you've ever made that I've
ever made.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, I have a song on my first album called
I've Committed Murder.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's why I think that's one of the best songs
in Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So has anyone really now, especially in digital streaming, do
you find it kind of hard to keep up with? Okay,
what's my Spotify doing, what's my Apple, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
No, man, I didn't even look at that stuff. I
don't even know what a monthly user is.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Really, you don't look at your your Spotify and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Now because it's waste time.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It's it's it's it's it's you know, like you do
a billion streams and you make.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Eighty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, wants to sell a billion of something and make
eighty thousands pathetic? I just I don't even so you
pray it'll make me start cursing.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So you definitely prefer like the old, the older method
of going to the store.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Get the CD. It's an asset, you got the hold it,
you got to play it. When it got scratched, Go
get another one. It's it's an experience that you're involved in. Yeah,
pushing a right and then listen to a song. That's cool.
But it was just it was just a much better
and people made better music because they had to, because
because having an album or or or vinyl was was
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so precious people.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Do you like any newer artists? Of course, yeah, like
a lot of new artists for sure. Do you do
you mess with Megan the Stallion?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I think she's gorgeous. I think she's beautiful. I'm I'm
not a big rap thing.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Oh so you don't do rap? You don't do rap?
Do you see your off making? Like maybe a small
rap song, just a tiny thirty second rap song.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay, my name is Macy. I'm not lazy. I'd be
racing cars.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You try, Yeah, you do? You do?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And I we're not gonna be racing cars because we
don't like driving, do we?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Neither one of us?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know that's neither one of us.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Did you make it? First to say did you make it?
Fare well?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
My love?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Goodbye, gladst night in the Pimps. Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I thought you made it, didn't.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's why you gotta listen to your grandma's music. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
She was excited about our interview. Actually, she was really excited. Yeah,
tell her, I said, yeah, So what about your United
States tour are you? Are you mostly excited for the
venue is the same kind of like the same as
when it was in Europe, because you said you are very,
very very popular in Europe.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Is it going to be around the same.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I'm a little nervous because, uh, you know, in Europe,
I'll put my show up and tickets going to and
you know, five minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Two weeks.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Out here, it's a lot slower, Like I have a
few shows that aren't sold yet. There's a couple that
we gotta figure something out. So it's it's a little
bit more of a hustle for me out here.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
So but that's cool though.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It's a challenge for me, you know, Like I like
that hustle, Like that's actually my favorite thing about it
is getting people to buy my tickets.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah. And Augusta is gonna be packed. It's gonna be
gonna be packed.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I'm gonna I'm literally gonna post it every day.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It's gonna be crazy. It is, Okay, I'm gonna make
sure I'll talk to you people, and I'll see if
we can get you on the bill.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Breathe for a sec. Things are hitting up and we're
just getting started. This is now, you know, be right back.
So I have a bit of a problem that I
want if you for a few more minutes. I want
to find kind of a solution to with you. So
in California, you live in you live in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Right I do?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Do you like it?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's okay, okay? And so in Los Angeles there's three
problems people talk about. You got the homelessness, the higher
taxes in the and the I think affordability is a
big one people talk about. So I'm on the first two,
homelessness and lower taxes. What is your big solution? What
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is your big idea? What is Macy Gray's big idea
on these issues?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Homelessness?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Actually may Or baths that they talk about her so bad,
but she's done an amazing job with with the homelessness.
It's I mean, of course it hasn't gone away, but
it's not even half as bad as it used to be.
And I don't know what she did, but I know
they spend a lot of money on on on the
housing and stuff like that. But it's it's actually a
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lot better than it used to be. Really, So the taxes,
that's just greed. There's no reason for our taxes to
be what they are.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Do you hate him? Do you hate him?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yes, it's absurd. It's almost that. I think it is
ten percent.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
It is high ten percent, ten point seventy five percent
in Oakland.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
So it's wild.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, it's wild. Whyfe what do you like your governor?
Gavin Nusso.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I don't see him making it past this term.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I think he went through some kind of midlife crisis
and he started interviewing other politicians and taking the side
of people who hated him, and I think he confused people. Yeah,
so once you confuse people, that's when, even if what
you're doing is horrible, it just has to be consistent
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and people have to believe you. And I don't know
if people believe him anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Have you met some of these people, like, for example,
carebas or like maybe a senator or or something like that.
Have you met these politicians or are you like I'm
trying to stay far away from as possible.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
No, I know, Karen, she actually had I had a
fundraiser for her at my house.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Really, Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's like the police team. I know, I know some people, Yeah,
you know comes you know, as far as the White House.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I don't know any of those guys, right, you mean
I used to. I used to go up there, but
I don't know anymore. As it's pretty it's pretty clear
I don't I don't go up there anymore.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, it seems that it seems like a weird bunch, though,
I feel like i'd be uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, you know that that would be probably the randomest
collab of all time. Macy Gray and then Pete Haggstaff
White Boy wasted, Like.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Oh my goodness, Yeah, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It wouldn't be good. It wouldn't be good at all.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So the viewers are probably gonna be like, what kind
of pivot is this? I do want to ask you
on your phone because I have to ask on your
Fuller House episode, what was kind of like? So did
they give you a script or was it like Macy Gray,
just be Macy Gray.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
No, you get a scream, we got a scramp.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I forget I remember it, I remember it. Yeah, is
there a pink.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Cadillac. It's mine something like that. That's right. That's why
I totally for Yeah, it's mine.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
We gotta get you on TV. You are doing it?
Do you act also?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I would love to, but I'm not right now. I
would love to, though, Well, where did you come from?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Out of the blue, you just started comments.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So I was never a political person, and so basically
I gave an endorsement one day because they were like, hey,
they were the Democrats and the Republicans and every political
party you could think of.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Was kind of how do I say, gaslighting.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Me, saying if you don't use this platform to endorse anyone,
you're selfish, And I was like, wait, you're right, Okay yeah,
And I was like you're right. So I started endorsing
people willingly, people I wanted to support, and so I
started doing it, and then they slowly started appreciating the comments,
the comments more and more, and the first few comments
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were more so like why are we taking advice from
a roadblocks gaming YouTuber on politics?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
It makes no sense?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So it kind of it kind of shines back into
like when people were doing the appearances on the campaign trail,
they were like, what could this person possibly know? About
no tax on tips, which Kamala Harris supported.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, so but how do you know about that though?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
What politics in general?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yes, so that's what I'm asking, Like, are your parents
really political?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Like where where does all that come from?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So they're really uninterested, and so I actually had to
get them registered to vote because they were like, it
doesn't it doesn't affect me. I don't care, and so
I was like, yes it does, and me and Masie
Grego yell at you.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
If you don't register the vote.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So go and do it exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I will vote dot com and no.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But in all seriousness, I just find it interesting and
I like to fight the real policy sisitions. I like
to go on interviews and this them and they.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Be like, how could you say that?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's clear?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's great. It's like a but yeah, I asked your question.
It's like a TV show. And I would love to
I would love to act. I want to do things
in California. I love California. We talked a little mess
about California, but I like it.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, No, California is a lot further'st beautiful, but yeah,
living here is really really expensive.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Where are you from?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Really good job? I'm from Ohio, which is the opposite.
I think Ohio is the eighth cheapest state to live
in or.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, would you live in Ohio?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Now when I'm older, I probably would, But because I
missed things about it, like the four seasons, and you know,
the people are a lot more, you know, have real lives.
Everybody in LA you know, kind of has an agenda.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Like a different planet. But but yeah, I miss all that.
You know, I don't know if I if I go
back and live, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, to be very considerate of your time, I'm going
to ask you this short question. Do you see anything
that Kamala Harris did wrong exactly in the election or
maybe a specific political party did right or wrong?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
No, I don't think she did anything wrong. Like I said,
I think what Donald Trump is really smart about. I
think he was in office and he learned all his lessons,
He made all his mistakes, so he knew what to
do and he made a plan and he put the
people around him that would do that plan for him.
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Like we don't know if Haigsaith actually agrees with him,
but he knew that he would do whatever he said,
you know what I mean, and then and then he
had the courage to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
And so.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
If you want to go against him, you have to
have the same setup, you know. That's why, like I said,
last person I saw do that so geniusly was Martin
Luther King. He's waiting before you, but he changed the
world because because he did all those things, you know,
And like if you want to win football game, you
gotta have your team has to have a plan and
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you guys have to do it and you and you
need a team, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Like if you want to do act and be on.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Movies, it's easy to hope something happens, but you make
a plan and you go make it happen, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, So I just I think that
he put his plan together if he won. I still
I thought those votes came back a little too fast.
But he seems to have really dileg gently put what
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he wants to do together and he's and he's making
that happen. If you want to stop him, he'll have
to do what he did. You have to take the
time and put that together.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Would you.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So I wouldn't call this a political I wouldn't have
called that when I'm referring to a political interview. But
between Piers Morgan and like the Fox Stuff and CNN,
what is like your favorite station to go on and
just talk a bunch of politics.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
God, she's so weird now, I don't even know. I
really like, you know what my favorite is?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
How do we go? Go?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Whitfield?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
She's on CNN and she just says the news. She
doesn't get it emotional does She never says you have
no idea how she.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Feels about anything, and you go on there. I've been
on cn in a couple of times, but not on
her show.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And during your Peers Morgan interview, you face controversy for
your take one of your takes on the on the
trans community. What's your current stance and how did you
feel going on that?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I think people got a little over dramatic about it.
You know, I said, just because you change your parts,
does it make you a woman? And that's just that's
just a biological fact. I didn't think anything I was
saying was political or it was definitely not meant to
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in a slide against the trans community. Anybody that knows
me knows that's the last thing I am. But my daughter,
who was twenty three at the time, she said, but you,
she said.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
But you can't tell people who they are. You can't
tell people what they're not due.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And so when she said that, I understood how it
was perceived, and I understood that that it really isn't
my place to tell. Of course, to me it's a fact,
but if to someone else, it's not a fact, and
they have as much right to how they feel about
it as I do. But I just wanted to clarify
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that it was It wasn't a transphobic comment. It wasn't
any I didn't mean to her, and I apologize because
my intention wasn't to hurt anybody. I was just saying
what I thought, which everybody does all day. So and
as a woman, I know that so much it happens
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in your life that makes you a woman. That only
happens to women, you know. So, But you know, I
don't want to bring out again. But I don't have
any kind of I don't know the words animosity. I
don't have anything the gay community on any and anybody
that knows me knows that's the truest thing you're gonna
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hear all day. You know, I'm big on yourself. I'm
big on freedom of thought and whoever you want to be.
You know, I'm downe with whoever you.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Want to be.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
And she was right, it's not my place to tell
you who you are. And if you believe otherwise, you know,
you know, you learn, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Do you feel Peers Morgan? I was invited to Piers
Morgan and I was hesitant.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Do you think he kind of instigates a little bit
in his shows? Are you cool with Piers Morgan?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I've known Peers for a long time and he does
he you know, that's his job, you know what I mean.
I mean, well, if he just set up there and
ask questions, nobody would would watch him. So he definitely
knows what he's doing. I didn't expect him to make
it this big deal that They definitely went out of
their way to to make sure everybody saw that episode. Yeah,
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but you know, that's that's just that's entertainment. Like I said,
you know, that's that's whatever. That's what we all do.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
He'd be Cliff Farming, He'd be Cliff Farming.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, he's good at it. Well, who's your favorite? Who
do you look up to.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Probably my favorite. I don't like a lot of the
news shows, like breaking News. I just hate it. I
go on it and I appear on it and I
say something and then a headline farm and then I
go home, but I just don't like watching it.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I don't like any of it.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'm not I'm not gonna call the name, but I
don't like any independent networks who are just like them
but they're saying they're not, but they're just Democrats who
are breaking news partial news, or if they're Republicans doing
partial news the independent media thing.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So I don't like any of it.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
What I do like is I love podcasts and I
love YouTube videos. And speaking of podcasts, people should download
this one. But miss Gray, I appreciate you so so
much for coming on. I can't thank you enough and
you are so so so kind. Alrighty well, I am
(33:26):
so shocked and thankful that Macy Gray would join us
today for this amazing episode of Now you know. We
got some of the most unfiltered but great answers that
we can possibly think of, and I thank her for
coming on. As we heard, I am going to be
an augusto of Macy Gray on an August, so get
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