September 3, 2025 • 27 mins
In Episode 06 of Now You Know, we're trying something new: we're going to just jump right in to the conversation. But before we drop you in, here’s a little context. We are joined by Congresswoman Sarah McBride, a daughter of Delaware through and through, and someone who grew up believing her small state could make a big impact. From local organizing as a teenager to breaking barriers on the national stage, McBride has carried that same sense of community and conviction into every role she’s taken on.
In this episode, host Knowa de Baraso sits down with her to explore Delaware’s overlooked vibrancy—its beaches, art, and neighborly spirit—and the lessons she’s carried from the statehouse to Congress. McBride opens up about navigating the drama of national politics, her relentless fight for healthcare equity, and the personal loss that fuels her public service. Together, they paint a picture of a leader who proves that even the smallest state can carry the biggest stories.
Listen now to hear Sarah McBride’s vision and voice, and explore more about her work at sarahmcbride.com. Stay connected with Knowa de Baraso on all socials @knowadebaraso, and join the conversation on who should be featured next.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now you know.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I'm doing well. It's so good to see you you two.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Are you joining in from Delaware today?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
I am joining in from what is undeniably the greatest
state in the history of the Union, Delaware. Have you
ever been to Delaware?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I've never been to Delaware.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Visit us in Delaware sometime. We've got great beaches, Wilmington
is wonderful, has a great art scene and food scene.
We're only thirty minutes from Philadelphia. We are a great
state of neighbors and would love to welcome you here.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Sometimes I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm just I say it like that, because like Delaware,
what's in the first state?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Endless discoveries, my friend, endless discoveries.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I mean, Delaware. You got Joe Biden. That's pretty much shit.
Oh that's it.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
We've got more than Joe Biden. Listen, Joe Biden. Joe
Biden is such an institution in Delaware that when he
was running for reelection as a Senator, it didn't say
Joe Biden for Senate. It just said Delaware's own Joe Biden.
We love him here, but we've got a lot on
top of Joe, We've got a lot to offer Beyond
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a former president of the United States. He's definitely an
attraction though.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, y'all don't play about him up there. Yeah, I
don't play about him. So last time I saw you, right,
I would love to talk about this. You were a
State House Rep. And I was like, she is killing
it because you were passing policies that I couldn't see
many people passing anywhere else. So what is the main
difference with back when you were a State House Rep.
When I first met you, and now that you're in Congress?
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What's that like now?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well, that's a great question. Yeah, we saw each other.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I think it was the Convention that we saw each other,
which feels a world away in so many ways, including
it feels a world away from my time as a
legislator here in Delaware, where I was passing paid family
and medical leave and expanding access to healthcare, investing in medicaid.
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And of course the Congress that I have entered is
not doing any of that. In fact, it's cutting Medicaid,
it's cutting food assistance, it's undoing progress for our country
and making the lives of working people and retirees much
much harder. And that's a huge difference. Right now, I'm
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working to defend our progress, whereas in the state legislature
I was helping to move the ball forward and build
out the programs and the benefits and the supports that
people need. I would say the other big difference is
here in Delaware, our politics is rooted in a kindness
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and a grace that I think is a reflection of
the fact that we are a state of neighbors. And
that is so different from the politics we see in Congress,
which is in so many ways the politics of reality TV.
It's people playing characters for the cameras and seeking to
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get attention for attention's sake, picking fights, throwing wine in
people's face just to get more airtime on TV. And
that's a sad thing to witness. It's a jarring thing
to see up close. And I think it's an indictment
of our politics that we have people in an esteemed
institution like Congress who are deeply unseerious people, but the
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consequences of their actions are serious.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, and you've been so soisstic so so focused on
your medicaid proposals. And before we get into all of that,
do you ever say I've missed the State House where
I could actually make great proposals and like people want healthcare,
it's so great, do you ever miss it?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I'm I miss the seriousness, I miss the progress. But
I am also grateful that I have the privilege of
representing the whole state of Delaware in Congress. I mean,
as toxic and as challenging and as harmful as this
moment in our politics is, I'm glad I am in
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Congress because I do feel like I have something to
offer in this moment where so much is on the line,
where the stakes are as high as they are, when
our dignity and our care and our democracy itself are
at risk. I feel like this is where the fight is.
And while I wish we were moving the ball forward,
and while I certainly miss parts of the Delaware State Senate,
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I know I'm in the right place right now. I
know I'm where the fight is, and I know that
I have something to offer on behalf of my constituents
right now.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, and so I mentioned being so very focused on
this medicaid proposal and you tried to destroy that big
bill into callin any adjectives, but you try to destroy
the bill. Tell me about your top priorities in Congress
in like your focuses.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
You know, I said when I ran for the seat
that I would work with anyone who is willing to
work with me to help Delaware, but that I would
stand up to anyone who I believe is hurting Delaware.
And from day one, I've put forward proposals that I
think helped my constituents, from consumer protections to expanding FMLA,
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which is the Federal Family and Medical Act law that
allows unpaid job protected leave. I've put forward legislation to
expand those benefits and that leave. I've put forward legislation
to help farmers here in Delaware. Agriculture is our top industry.
Two hundred chickens per person in Delaware, and while Delaware
doesn't have a lot of people, that's a lot of chickens.
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And I've been able to bring Democrats and Republicans together
on these proposals. And so there are some common sense,
bipartisan ideas that I've introduced that were already moving forward.
But the reality is, in this moment, the big things
that are happening in Congress are big and bad, and
defending Delawareans from the authoritarian power grabs of the Trump
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administration that undermine our rights are dignity and our democracy.
Protecting Delawarians from what was not only the largest cut
to Medicaid in American history, but the single largest evisceration
of healthcare in American history. That's really the top priority
for me, because I think we need to continue from
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now through November talking about this big, ugly bill because
you know, I know you follow this really closely, but
a lot of people have heard about these cuts to Medicaid,
trillion dollars in cuts to Medicaid and Obamacare. But what
they don't realize is that Republicans in Congress thought that
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they were being clever by delaying these cuts until twenty
twenty seven. They said, we're going to delay these cuts
so that the harm of this bill doesn't go into
effect fully until after the midterm elections. We don't want
the American people to experience the full consequences of this
bill before they vote November, because the Republicans thought they'd
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lose if that was the case. But in delaying those cuts,
they actually give all of us the power to stop
these cuts. They inserted a one trillion dollar bomb into
the center of the American healthcare system, and we have
the opportunity in November of twenty twenty six to diffuse
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that bomb by electing Democrats to Congress who will repeal
this big, ugly bill, restore this care, and not only
restore it and protect it, but expand it so that
Medicaid more fully covers the needs of the patients who
rely on it, So that Medicare is expanded to cover vision, dental,
and hearing. So we put our nation on a path
where we not only have a public option, but where
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eventually we get to universal health coverage in this nation.
That's the direction we should be going. And if we
elect Democrats in twenty twenty six, we can stop the
harm before it goes into full effect, and we can
start the hard work of building on the ACA to
get to universal coverage.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, you say universal coverage. You're supportive of universal coverage.
Would it be the current proposals of Medicare for all
or would you have your own ideas for it.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I'm I'm open to any proposal that is before me
that reaches universal coverage that we have the chance of
getting through. And so regardless of what those structures look like,
what I care about is that my constituents have coverage.
I want to make sure that everyone right now who
has coverage, who likes their coverage, can keep it. But
I want to make sure that their coverage is cheaper
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and everyone who doesn't have coverage gets coverage. And so
you put a proposal before me that gets to that destination,
and I will support it. That is the mission of
my life. I ran for office, first for state Senate
and then for Congress because of my experience caring for
my husband Andy during his battle with cancer, and while
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he ultimately lost his life to cancer. Throughout that experience,
he and I both knew how lucky we were. We
knew how lucky he was to have health insurance that
would allow him to get care that would hopefully save
his life, certainly at least give us time together. And
we both knew how lucky we were to have flexibility
with our jobs that allowed him to get care and
me to be there to care for him without sacrificing
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our job or our incomes. It's why I'm passionate about
universal coverage. It's why I'm passionate about universal paid family
and medical leave too.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yes, and I'm sorry to hear about that. And I
know the HRC has been a vague hero in channeling
Andy's voice, and it's so so so important.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
A quick pause for the cause.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Stick around.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I consider you, like, I'm gonna be honest the Delawarean.
I learned that word today. Whatever, Delawarean, I'll rep Delaware.
What is your relationship seeing Chris Coons and seeing the
Congress senator now and seeing you know President Biden. I
heard that you've known him since you were like four?
Tell me about all of that.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, so in Delaware, which I love. Noah, that you're
now like repping Delaware. Yeah, we need it, we deserve it.
We're great, but people forget about it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm not gonna say you deserve it, but we'll see.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Oh no, you got you can't, you can't, you can't
yuck the yum like, you gotta come to Delaware. But
if you're gonna, if you're gonna crap on Delaware, you
gotta come visit Delaware.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
We'll see, we.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
See it for yourself, and then you'll be assuaged of
all of the skepticism that I see right now. No, Look,
you know, Delaware is so cool because I said this earlier.
We're stated neighbors, and the saying in Delawares everyone's dated
made it or related. And the cool thing about Delaware
is that you go out and you'll see your governor,
you'll see your senators, you'll see your member of Congress,
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you'll see the former President of the United States getting
take out at a local restaurant. It's pretty cool how
small we are and how much access we have to
one another. And so first off, I'll mention I'll talk
about Senator Kons and Senator Blunt Rochester.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Every once in a while, I accidentally.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Call her congress Woman Blunt Rochester, and sometimes she'll accidentally
call me Senator McBride from my days as a state senator.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
But we're so excited that she's.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
In the US Senate. Our delegation works really well together.
I'll talk to other colleagues in Congress and they go,
you and your senators like really work together, And I'm like, yeah,
like you guys like get along, and I'm like, yeah,
we have a great relationship. I've known Chris and Lisa
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for Lisa I've known for I mean a decade or so. Chris,
I've known since I was twelve or thirteen, And both
are dear friends. Both have been mentors, and I am
so proud to call them colleagues. And right now we're
Team Delaware, like we are united and focused on defending
our state and fighting back against Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
When you're a eight, nine, ten year old kid in
Delaware growing up and you're remotely interested in politics, Joe
Biden is and was the giant of Delaware. I remember
I met him when I was really young at a
pizza restaurant in Wilmington, and when I was out there
with my parents, and he pulls out a copy of
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his schedule and signs it and gives it to me.
And it was my prize possession for my middle school.
You to have it, Honestly, I'm sure it's somewhere my
mom's files, although I'm a little worried. She likes to
throw things out, and I'm a little worried that she
threw it out when I went to college. But you know,
I got to know Joe Biden through the eyes of
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BO because I worked for BO. I volunteered then interned
and then was on staff with Bo when he was
running for and then eventually Attorney General of Delaware. And
Bo was everything that people say. He was decent, kind, smart,
good And the love between Joe and Bo that's not
a myth, that's not sort of a political fairy tale.
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I've never seen love between father and son as deep
as the love between Joe and Bo, and so I
got to know Joe through Bo's eyes. And since Bo passed,
Joe and I have developed a friendship that's really rooted
in both of our love for Bo and our feeling
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and knowledge that together we can carry Bo's legacy forward.
I just saw him a couple weeks ago and got
his advice on a whole host of issues, caught up
with him, and honestly, we spent a lot of time
just talking about Bo and how I had told him
how proud BO would be of him, and he told
me so generously how proud of me BO would be.
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And it meant the world to me, because I think
almost every day about what would Bo do when I'm
facing a big decision.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I did not know you you stacked with Bill
Bo Biden. That's I didn't know that with department, so.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I was on the campaign side. I started volunteering for
him in two thousand and six, two thousand and five,
thousand and six, when he was running for attorney General.
Then in two thousand and six I interned on his campaign,
and then in twenty ten I was on staff there
and I was the volunteer coordinator field director, and I
would staff Bo a lot, so I got to travel
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the state with Bo, spending untold hours in the car
just talking to Bo and listening to music with Bo.
He had great taste in music and just learning about
Delaware and Delaware politics from Bo, which was I mean,
he was an incredible tutor to have.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
What was that music looking like?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
So that's a good quest.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Nah.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
The one song that's like stuck in my head that
he loved was Home by Edward Sharp and the Magnetic Zero.
He loved that song and wanted to make it his
campaign theme song in twenty ten, and I said, BO,
I think that song is like a little too mellow,
and people might might assume some things about you if
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you try to make that song your walk on the
campaign theme song. But he had pretty pretty chill taste
in music.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, that's exciting, and I don't listen to music, so
I was just curious what that looks like. But we're
talking to like a lot about about Delaware, and I'm
like hearing stuff that Delaware is a little bit more
than Delaware. So what's it like campaigning ass Sarah McBride
in Delaware, like going to Dover and then go into Wilmington.
What is it like campaigning in the state of Delaware's.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
A that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
You know. I represented it first in the state Senate.
I represented a small part of Delaware. I represented the
state Senate district that I was born and raised in
forty five thousand people northern Delaware, Wilmington, which is our
biggest city in some of the suburbs. But now I
represent the whole state at large. At large, I actually
represent more people in the House of Representatives than any
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other representative in Congress. The only person in Congress who
represents more people than me as the Resident Commissioner from
Puerto Rico. But among the voting members of the House
of Representatives, I represent more people than anyone else, more
than a million in people. And that's because Delaware is
the largest by population at large district It's one of
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the few things that we are the biggest at and
it's huge.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It's huge.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Most representatives represent like seven hundred and fifty thousand people.
I represent a million, and I got to tell you, nooah.
One of my favorite parts of being in Congress is
the fact that I get to represent not only Delaware,
but the entirety of Delaware. Because that means not only
I represent more than a million people, it means I
represent people in urban, suburban, and rural communities. I represent
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people of every race, people of every religion, and honestly,
and I know people will be surprised to hear this,
I am really grateful that I represent people across the
political and partisan and ideological spectrum.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I've got parts of.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
My district that are deep blue progressive, and I've got
parts of my district where, despite this being Joe Biden's
home state, you drive by and there are a lot
of Let's Go brand in flags. Right. I represent a
very ideologically diverse district in.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
A way that a lot of members don't.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Like a lot of members either represent just an urban area,
just a suburban area, just a rural area. I represent everything.
And one of the reasons why I'm really grateful for
that is, yeah, there are real disagreements between constituents. There
are real disagreements that some of my Republican constituents have
with my positions or my votes. But when you go
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out and you're on the ground and you're off social media,
and you're actually in community with people and you get
to know them and talk to them and listen to them,
you realize that as divided as we seem when you
turn on TV and watch Congress, or as divided as
we seem when you watch cable news interviews, or as
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divided as we seem when you scroll your social media,
when you actually get out into communities across our country,
in my case, across our state, you realize that and
I know this sounds tright and cliche, but that we
actually aren't as divided as it seems, that there's more
opportunity to find common ground, and that when we show
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up through the power of our proximity, we can actually
have a politics where yes, we have disagreement, but we
have disagreement without being disrespectful or mean to one another.
And that's the only way you can have democracy is
to be able to disagree, but to be able to
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disagree and not view every disagreement as a battle between
good and evil, rather a battle of ideas that allow
us to see the hopes and the dreams and the
fears of people who disagree with us, and recognize that
this thing only works as democracy only works, if we
can have those disagreements in the public square without fearing
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for our safety or our capacity to participate.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
All right, hold up, We'll be right back after this
quick break. I'm not surprised that there are Let's Go
Brandon signs in the state of Delaware. In fact, I
think it might be a little bit more aggressive due
to the fact that Joe Biden is Delaware's thing, Like
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they should make their motto home of Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But in all seriousness, actually.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
If you if you drive into Delaware, Noah, you know,
they're the signs that say welcome to Delaware, and the
signs do say home of President Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Really, yeah, we're proud of it. We're proud of it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I would put okay, if I was in charge, I
would put home of President Biden, Sarah McBride and Lisa Rochester.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No dis The Chris Coons by the way that sounds horrible.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I love Coones.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I'm honored to make whoever, no matter who you put
on there, I'm honored that I make your cut.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh yeah, you're gonna make a cut. That's it.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And I often get shocked. We talk a lot about Delaware.
I often get shocked hearing like that. Some Republicans who
are like from the most red areas in the country
navigate through Washington, d C. And it's kind of the
same with you. You're from Delaware, you know the state.
How does Sarah McBride operate around Washington, D C? What
do you eat there, what do you do?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Who do you get along with? What's this like in DC?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Now that's a great question. So I mean, I come
back to Delaware whenever I can. Right, I'm only two
hours away, So I'm in Delaware, perhaps more than most
members are able to be in their districts. But a
lot of legislating is relationship building. First off, I love
my colleagues on the Democratic and the Democratic Caucus. I've
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got great colleagues who I consider friends and in many
cases mentors. I've gotten some friends on the Republican side,
including some unpredictable friends who listen. My rule is like,
if you've got a good sense of humor, I am
happy to be in your presence. And there's some folks
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with some good senses of humor on the other side
of the aisle. They've got crap politics, and I hold
them accountable for that. But we've got to have relationships
with one another for Congress to work and function, and
there are issues where we can find common ground. And
politics only works if you say, I might disagree with
you on every other thing, but I can find common
ground with you on this, and let's move forward.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But in DC, Okay, what are the places that I
love to eat?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
So I've been eating a lot of Indian food, really,
and my favorite Indian restaurant that I have been to
where you can get like takeout Indian or fast fast
Indian food is Bombay Street Food in DC. And I
have to say I get it not only every week,
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but probably two or three times a week.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
WHOA are you serious?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I know, I know, I know, I know times I've ye.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Don't judge me.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Noah, I'm just saying I know your office molls great
because I love Indian food so much.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, Okay, I won't.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I won't bring that into the office unless the entire
office is getting it, and then we will order it.
But I will not bring stanky food into the office.
Someone heated up of fish in the microwave the other
day and uh the office. I think there was a
near mutiny in the office because of it. No, I
try to be respectful of my colleagues. I actually know.
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I'm really weird. I don't eat during the day. I
only really eat at dinner. I just drink coffee all
day because I can't deal with like food comas that
happen after I eat. And so I just eat one
big dinner at the end of the day. And I'm
not going to burden my colleagues with the smell of
Indian food.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay, so you mentioned like this one big dinner at
the end, and it just shows me how really really
focus you are delivering in.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Congress Like you're not eating, you're not breathing.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm surprised if you even consume like anything, Like you're
just congressing.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I'm just listening. Listen.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It's coffee and congressing for me. That's that's all that
My day is coffee and congressing. It's Honestly, it's a
bad habit, Noah, that I've had since I was a kid,
and I think it's a mix of an anxiety crutch
and a like self fulfilling thing, where like I don't
eat until the end of the day, and then I
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fall asleep after I eat, and then that means that
my body's trained to want to fall asleep after I eat,
So then I can't eat lunch because then my body
wants to fall asleep. So it's a vicious cycle.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Noah.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I hope people feel sympathy for this plight that I
have been given in my life of only eating dinner.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I feel sorry, but it's on you. I'm going to you, Michelle.
You like to show the Republicans accountability, I'm going to
show you accountability and say you need to fix that.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You were dragging me. I love it.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
You are right, I need to exercise some personal responsibility.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes, please.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And as we wrap up, I'm going to give you
the civics quiz that we give the reality TV stars
and the members of Congress.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You will know this.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I hope who's the seventy sixth governor of Delaware?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Seventy six to govern? Oh my god, it's not our
current governor. Who's Who's what? We don't know. I don't
know the numbers of the governor.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
You've got Matt Meyer, then Bethany Hall Long, than John Carney,
then Jack Markel, then Rufan Minner, then Tom car For
than Dale Wolf and Mike Castle, then Peep DuPont. The
list goes on. So wait, seventy seventy seventy six you said, yes,
that's not the current governor, right, not what's the current governor?
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I'll tell you, or what the number for the current covenent.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Governor is Matt Mayer?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I want to say, but isn't he seventy seventh is
seventy seventh.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Let's do a fact check here with the congress woman.
Let's see the seventy sixth governor of Delaware is in fact?
Oh wow, Matt Mayor.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Okay, Oh it's Matt Meyer.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, you calalcked my tea and you said it's the
current governor, and I thought you were You were wrong, Okay,
so we'll mark that correct.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Okay, yeah, okay, thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I thought my recollection Matt was either the seventy sixth
or the seventy seventh, and I couldn't remember whether he
was seventy six or seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Delaware's main thing, aside from you and Joe Biden, is
being the.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
First date, the first date, the first date, the first date.
What is the second state?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
The second state was Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's right, that's exactly right. You got that correct. And
in the US Constitution, what's.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
That Pennsylvania is actually not a state though it's a commonwealth.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Why do people from that area like to say commonwealth?
What is a commonwealth?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Commonwealth?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It's just another term they like to sound special.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Now, is Delaware a commonwealth? It's not a common lawth No,
we're a state. We're stated, okay. And then in the
US Constitution, how many times is the word democracy used?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Zero?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
None, that's right. It's all republic, all republic. That's right.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
And I am so so thankful for you coming on.
And the last question I'm going to ask is not
going to take a long answer, but it's going to
be the most important. And I've been really scared all
week to ask you.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Can I call you Aunt Sasa?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
I would love for you to call me Aunt. Everyone
can call me Aunt Sasa. I carry an aunt sasa
bag everywhere I go and it is my most honored title.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Okay, I was scared. I thought you were gonna say no,
We're gonna preserve that for the people of Delaware. Oh man,
thank you, and it's so it's such an honor to
have you on now you know, and I greatly appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I greatly appreciate you. Thank you for having me on.
This was fantastic And despite our random confusion around the governor,
who with the seventy sixth governor is? I really appreciate
the quiz too.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I love it. Thank you so much. I'll see
you
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Soon, Siya, thank you, now you Know and No de
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No Da Brosso is a production of iHeartMedia and partnership
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
I'm doing well. It's so good to see you you two.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Are you joining in from Delaware today?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
I am joining in from what is undeniably the greatest
state in the history of the Union, Delaware. Have you
ever been to Delaware?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I've never been to Delaware.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Visit us in Delaware sometime. We've got great beaches, Wilmington
is wonderful, has a great art scene and food scene.
We're only thirty minutes from Philadelphia. We are a great
state of neighbors and would love to welcome you here.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Sometimes I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm just I say it like that, because like Delaware,
what's in the first state?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Endless discoveries, my friend, endless discoveries.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I mean, Delaware. You got Joe Biden. That's pretty much shit.
Oh that's it.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
We've got more than Joe Biden. Listen, Joe Biden. Joe
Biden is such an institution in Delaware that when he
was running for reelection as a Senator, it didn't say
Joe Biden for Senate. It just said Delaware's own Joe Biden.
We love him here, but we've got a lot on
top of Joe, We've got a lot to offer Beyond
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a former president of the United States. He's definitely an
attraction though.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, y'all don't play about him up there. Yeah, I
don't play about him. So last time I saw you, right,
I would love to talk about this. You were a
State House Rep. And I was like, she is killing
it because you were passing policies that I couldn't see
many people passing anywhere else. So what is the main
difference with back when you were a State House Rep.
When I first met you, and now that you're in Congress?
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What's that like now?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well, that's a great question. Yeah, we saw each other.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I think it was the Convention that we saw each other,
which feels a world away in so many ways, including
it feels a world away from my time as a
legislator here in Delaware, where I was passing paid family
and medical leave and expanding access to healthcare, investing in medicaid.
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And of course the Congress that I have entered is
not doing any of that. In fact, it's cutting Medicaid,
it's cutting food assistance, it's undoing progress for our country
and making the lives of working people and retirees much
much harder. And that's a huge difference. Right now, I'm
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working to defend our progress, whereas in the state legislature
I was helping to move the ball forward and build
out the programs and the benefits and the supports that
people need. I would say the other big difference is
here in Delaware, our politics is rooted in a kindness
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and a grace that I think is a reflection of
the fact that we are a state of neighbors. And
that is so different from the politics we see in Congress,
which is in so many ways the politics of reality TV.
It's people playing characters for the cameras and seeking to
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get attention for attention's sake, picking fights, throwing wine in
people's face just to get more airtime on TV. And
that's a sad thing to witness. It's a jarring thing
to see up close. And I think it's an indictment
of our politics that we have people in an esteemed
institution like Congress who are deeply unseerious people, but the
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consequences of their actions are serious.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, and you've been so soisstic so so focused on
your medicaid proposals. And before we get into all of that,
do you ever say I've missed the State House where
I could actually make great proposals and like people want healthcare,
it's so great, do you ever miss it?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I'm I miss the seriousness, I miss the progress. But
I am also grateful that I have the privilege of
representing the whole state of Delaware in Congress. I mean,
as toxic and as challenging and as harmful as this
moment in our politics is, I'm glad I am in
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Congress because I do feel like I have something to
offer in this moment where so much is on the line,
where the stakes are as high as they are, when
our dignity and our care and our democracy itself are
at risk. I feel like this is where the fight is.
And while I wish we were moving the ball forward,
and while I certainly miss parts of the Delaware State Senate,
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I know I'm in the right place right now. I
know I'm where the fight is, and I know that
I have something to offer on behalf of my constituents
right now.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, and so I mentioned being so very focused on
this medicaid proposal and you tried to destroy that big
bill into callin any adjectives, but you try to destroy
the bill. Tell me about your top priorities in Congress
in like your focuses.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
You know, I said when I ran for the seat
that I would work with anyone who is willing to
work with me to help Delaware, but that I would
stand up to anyone who I believe is hurting Delaware.
And from day one, I've put forward proposals that I
think helped my constituents, from consumer protections to expanding FMLA,
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which is the Federal Family and Medical Act law that
allows unpaid job protected leave. I've put forward legislation to
expand those benefits and that leave. I've put forward legislation
to help farmers here in Delaware. Agriculture is our top industry.
Two hundred chickens per person in Delaware, and while Delaware
doesn't have a lot of people, that's a lot of chickens.
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And I've been able to bring Democrats and Republicans together
on these proposals. And so there are some common sense,
bipartisan ideas that I've introduced that were already moving forward.
But the reality is, in this moment, the big things
that are happening in Congress are big and bad, and
defending Delawareans from the authoritarian power grabs of the Trump
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administration that undermine our rights are dignity and our democracy.
Protecting Delawarians from what was not only the largest cut
to Medicaid in American history, but the single largest evisceration
of healthcare in American history. That's really the top priority
for me, because I think we need to continue from
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now through November talking about this big, ugly bill because
you know, I know you follow this really closely, but
a lot of people have heard about these cuts to Medicaid,
trillion dollars in cuts to Medicaid and Obamacare. But what
they don't realize is that Republicans in Congress thought that
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they were being clever by delaying these cuts until twenty
twenty seven. They said, we're going to delay these cuts
so that the harm of this bill doesn't go into
effect fully until after the midterm elections. We don't want
the American people to experience the full consequences of this
bill before they vote November, because the Republicans thought they'd
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lose if that was the case. But in delaying those cuts,
they actually give all of us the power to stop
these cuts. They inserted a one trillion dollar bomb into
the center of the American healthcare system, and we have
the opportunity in November of twenty twenty six to diffuse
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that bomb by electing Democrats to Congress who will repeal
this big, ugly bill, restore this care, and not only
restore it and protect it, but expand it so that
Medicaid more fully covers the needs of the patients who
rely on it, So that Medicare is expanded to cover vision, dental,
and hearing. So we put our nation on a path
where we not only have a public option, but where
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eventually we get to universal health coverage in this nation.
That's the direction we should be going. And if we
elect Democrats in twenty twenty six, we can stop the
harm before it goes into full effect, and we can
start the hard work of building on the ACA to
get to universal coverage.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, you say universal coverage. You're supportive of universal coverage.
Would it be the current proposals of Medicare for all
or would you have your own ideas for it.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I'm I'm open to any proposal that is before me
that reaches universal coverage that we have the chance of
getting through. And so regardless of what those structures look like,
what I care about is that my constituents have coverage.
I want to make sure that everyone right now who
has coverage, who likes their coverage, can keep it. But
I want to make sure that their coverage is cheaper
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and everyone who doesn't have coverage gets coverage. And so
you put a proposal before me that gets to that destination,
and I will support it. That is the mission of
my life. I ran for office, first for state Senate
and then for Congress because of my experience caring for
my husband Andy during his battle with cancer, and while
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he ultimately lost his life to cancer. Throughout that experience,
he and I both knew how lucky we were. We
knew how lucky he was to have health insurance that
would allow him to get care that would hopefully save
his life, certainly at least give us time together. And
we both knew how lucky we were to have flexibility
with our jobs that allowed him to get care and
me to be there to care for him without sacrificing
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our job or our incomes. It's why I'm passionate about
universal coverage. It's why I'm passionate about universal paid family
and medical leave too.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yes, and I'm sorry to hear about that. And I
know the HRC has been a vague hero in channeling
Andy's voice, and it's so so so important.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
A quick pause for the cause.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Stick around.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I consider you, like, I'm gonna be honest the Delawarean.
I learned that word today. Whatever, Delawarean, I'll rep Delaware.
What is your relationship seeing Chris Coons and seeing the
Congress senator now and seeing you know President Biden. I
heard that you've known him since you were like four?
Tell me about all of that.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, so in Delaware, which I love. Noah, that you're
now like repping Delaware. Yeah, we need it, we deserve it.
We're great, but people forget about it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm not gonna say you deserve it, but we'll see.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Oh no, you got you can't, you can't, you can't
yuck the yum like, you gotta come to Delaware. But
if you're gonna, if you're gonna crap on Delaware, you
gotta come visit Delaware.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
We'll see, we.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
See it for yourself, and then you'll be assuaged of
all of the skepticism that I see right now. No, Look,
you know, Delaware is so cool because I said this earlier.
We're stated neighbors, and the saying in Delawares everyone's dated
made it or related. And the cool thing about Delaware
is that you go out and you'll see your governor,
you'll see your senators, you'll see your member of Congress,
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you'll see the former President of the United States getting
take out at a local restaurant. It's pretty cool how
small we are and how much access we have to
one another. And so first off, I'll mention I'll talk
about Senator Kons and Senator Blunt Rochester.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Every once in a while, I accidentally.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Call her congress Woman Blunt Rochester, and sometimes she'll accidentally
call me Senator McBride from my days as a state senator.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
But we're so excited that she's.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
In the US Senate. Our delegation works really well together.
I'll talk to other colleagues in Congress and they go,
you and your senators like really work together, And I'm like, yeah,
like you guys like get along, and I'm like, yeah,
we have a great relationship. I've known Chris and Lisa
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for Lisa I've known for I mean a decade or so. Chris,
I've known since I was twelve or thirteen, And both
are dear friends. Both have been mentors, and I am
so proud to call them colleagues. And right now we're
Team Delaware, like we are united and focused on defending
our state and fighting back against Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
When you're a eight, nine, ten year old kid in
Delaware growing up and you're remotely interested in politics, Joe
Biden is and was the giant of Delaware. I remember
I met him when I was really young at a
pizza restaurant in Wilmington, and when I was out there
with my parents, and he pulls out a copy of
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his schedule and signs it and gives it to me.
And it was my prize possession for my middle school.
You to have it, Honestly, I'm sure it's somewhere my
mom's files, although I'm a little worried. She likes to
throw things out, and I'm a little worried that she
threw it out when I went to college. But you know,
I got to know Joe Biden through the eyes of
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BO because I worked for BO. I volunteered then interned
and then was on staff with Bo when he was
running for and then eventually Attorney General of Delaware. And
Bo was everything that people say. He was decent, kind, smart,
good And the love between Joe and Bo that's not
a myth, that's not sort of a political fairy tale.
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I've never seen love between father and son as deep
as the love between Joe and Bo, and so I
got to know Joe through Bo's eyes. And since Bo passed,
Joe and I have developed a friendship that's really rooted
in both of our love for Bo and our feeling
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and knowledge that together we can carry Bo's legacy forward.
I just saw him a couple weeks ago and got
his advice on a whole host of issues, caught up
with him, and honestly, we spent a lot of time
just talking about Bo and how I had told him
how proud BO would be of him, and he told
me so generously how proud of me BO would be.
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And it meant the world to me, because I think
almost every day about what would Bo do when I'm
facing a big decision.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I did not know you you stacked with Bill
Bo Biden. That's I didn't know that with department, so.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I was on the campaign side. I started volunteering for
him in two thousand and six, two thousand and five,
thousand and six, when he was running for attorney General.
Then in two thousand and six I interned on his campaign,
and then in twenty ten I was on staff there
and I was the volunteer coordinator field director, and I
would staff Bo a lot, so I got to travel
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the state with Bo, spending untold hours in the car
just talking to Bo and listening to music with Bo.
He had great taste in music and just learning about
Delaware and Delaware politics from Bo, which was I mean,
he was an incredible tutor to have.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
What was that music looking like?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
So that's a good quest.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Nah.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
The one song that's like stuck in my head that
he loved was Home by Edward Sharp and the Magnetic Zero.
He loved that song and wanted to make it his
campaign theme song in twenty ten, and I said, BO,
I think that song is like a little too mellow,
and people might might assume some things about you if
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you try to make that song your walk on the
campaign theme song. But he had pretty pretty chill taste
in music.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, that's exciting, and I don't listen to music, so
I was just curious what that looks like. But we're
talking to like a lot about about Delaware, and I'm
like hearing stuff that Delaware is a little bit more
than Delaware. So what's it like campaigning ass Sarah McBride
in Delaware, like going to Dover and then go into Wilmington.
What is it like campaigning in the state of Delaware's.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
A that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
You know. I represented it first in the state Senate.
I represented a small part of Delaware. I represented the
state Senate district that I was born and raised in
forty five thousand people northern Delaware, Wilmington, which is our
biggest city in some of the suburbs. But now I
represent the whole state at large. At large, I actually
represent more people in the House of Representatives than any
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other representative in Congress. The only person in Congress who
represents more people than me as the Resident Commissioner from
Puerto Rico. But among the voting members of the House
of Representatives, I represent more people than anyone else, more
than a million in people. And that's because Delaware is
the largest by population at large district It's one of
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the few things that we are the biggest at and
it's huge.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It's huge.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Most representatives represent like seven hundred and fifty thousand people.
I represent a million, and I got to tell you, nooah.
One of my favorite parts of being in Congress is
the fact that I get to represent not only Delaware,
but the entirety of Delaware. Because that means not only
I represent more than a million people, it means I
represent people in urban, suburban, and rural communities. I represent
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people of every race, people of every religion, and honestly,
and I know people will be surprised to hear this,
I am really grateful that I represent people across the
political and partisan and ideological spectrum.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I've got parts of.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
My district that are deep blue progressive, and I've got
parts of my district where, despite this being Joe Biden's
home state, you drive by and there are a lot
of Let's Go brand in flags. Right. I represent a
very ideologically diverse district in.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
A way that a lot of members don't.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Like a lot of members either represent just an urban area,
just a suburban area, just a rural area. I represent everything.
And one of the reasons why I'm really grateful for
that is, yeah, there are real disagreements between constituents. There
are real disagreements that some of my Republican constituents have
with my positions or my votes. But when you go
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out and you're on the ground and you're off social media,
and you're actually in community with people and you get
to know them and talk to them and listen to them,
you realize that as divided as we seem when you
turn on TV and watch Congress, or as divided as
we seem when you watch cable news interviews, or as
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divided as we seem when you scroll your social media,
when you actually get out into communities across our country,
in my case, across our state, you realize that and
I know this sounds tright and cliche, but that we
actually aren't as divided as it seems, that there's more
opportunity to find common ground, and that when we show
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up through the power of our proximity, we can actually
have a politics where yes, we have disagreement, but we
have disagreement without being disrespectful or mean to one another.
And that's the only way you can have democracy is
to be able to disagree, but to be able to
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disagree and not view every disagreement as a battle between
good and evil, rather a battle of ideas that allow
us to see the hopes and the dreams and the
fears of people who disagree with us, and recognize that
this thing only works as democracy only works, if we
can have those disagreements in the public square without fearing
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for our safety or our capacity to participate.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
All right, hold up, We'll be right back after this
quick break. I'm not surprised that there are Let's Go
Brandon signs in the state of Delaware. In fact, I
think it might be a little bit more aggressive due
to the fact that Joe Biden is Delaware's thing, Like
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they should make their motto home of Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But in all seriousness, actually.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
If you if you drive into Delaware, Noah, you know,
they're the signs that say welcome to Delaware, and the
signs do say home of President Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Really, yeah, we're proud of it. We're proud of it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I would put okay, if I was in charge, I
would put home of President Biden, Sarah McBride and Lisa Rochester.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No dis The Chris Coons by the way that sounds horrible.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I love Coones.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I'm honored to make whoever, no matter who you put
on there, I'm honored that I make your cut.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh yeah, you're gonna make a cut. That's it.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And I often get shocked. We talk a lot about Delaware.
I often get shocked hearing like that. Some Republicans who
are like from the most red areas in the country
navigate through Washington, d C. And it's kind of the
same with you. You're from Delaware, you know the state.
How does Sarah McBride operate around Washington, D C? What
do you eat there, what do you do?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Who do you get along with? What's this like in DC?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Now that's a great question. So I mean, I come
back to Delaware whenever I can. Right, I'm only two
hours away, So I'm in Delaware, perhaps more than most
members are able to be in their districts. But a
lot of legislating is relationship building. First off, I love
my colleagues on the Democratic and the Democratic Caucus. I've
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got great colleagues who I consider friends and in many
cases mentors. I've gotten some friends on the Republican side,
including some unpredictable friends who listen. My rule is like,
if you've got a good sense of humor, I am
happy to be in your presence. And there's some folks
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with some good senses of humor on the other side
of the aisle. They've got crap politics, and I hold
them accountable for that. But we've got to have relationships
with one another for Congress to work and function, and
there are issues where we can find common ground. And
politics only works if you say, I might disagree with
you on every other thing, but I can find common
ground with you on this, and let's move forward.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But in DC, Okay, what are the places that I
love to eat?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
So I've been eating a lot of Indian food, really,
and my favorite Indian restaurant that I have been to
where you can get like takeout Indian or fast fast
Indian food is Bombay Street Food in DC. And I
have to say I get it not only every week,
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but probably two or three times a week.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
WHOA are you serious?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I know, I know, I know, I know times I've ye.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Don't judge me.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Noah, I'm just saying I know your office molls great
because I love Indian food so much.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Okay, Okay, I won't.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I won't bring that into the office unless the entire
office is getting it, and then we will order it.
But I will not bring stanky food into the office.
Someone heated up of fish in the microwave the other
day and uh the office. I think there was a
near mutiny in the office because of it. No, I
try to be respectful of my colleagues. I actually know.
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I'm really weird. I don't eat during the day. I
only really eat at dinner. I just drink coffee all
day because I can't deal with like food comas that
happen after I eat. And so I just eat one
big dinner at the end of the day. And I'm
not going to burden my colleagues with the smell of
Indian food.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay, so you mentioned like this one big dinner at
the end, and it just shows me how really really
focus you are delivering in.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Congress Like you're not eating, you're not breathing.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm surprised if you even consume like anything, Like you're
just congressing.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I'm just listening. Listen.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It's coffee and congressing for me. That's that's all that
My day is coffee and congressing. It's Honestly, it's a
bad habit, Noah, that I've had since I was a kid,
and I think it's a mix of an anxiety crutch
and a like self fulfilling thing, where like I don't
eat until the end of the day, and then I
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fall asleep after I eat, and then that means that
my body's trained to want to fall asleep after I eat,
So then I can't eat lunch because then my body
wants to fall asleep. So it's a vicious cycle.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Noah.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I hope people feel sympathy for this plight that I
have been given in my life of only eating dinner.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I feel sorry, but it's on you. I'm going to you, Michelle.
You like to show the Republicans accountability, I'm going to
show you accountability and say you need to fix that.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You were dragging me. I love it.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
You are right, I need to exercise some personal responsibility.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes, please.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And as we wrap up, I'm going to give you
the civics quiz that we give the reality TV stars
and the members of Congress.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You will know this.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I hope who's the seventy sixth governor of Delaware?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Seventy six to govern? Oh my god, it's not our
current governor. Who's Who's what? We don't know. I don't
know the numbers of the governor.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
You've got Matt Meyer, then Bethany Hall Long, than John Carney,
then Jack Markel, then Rufan Minner, then Tom car For
than Dale Wolf and Mike Castle, then Peep DuPont. The
list goes on. So wait, seventy seventy seventy six you said, yes,
that's not the current governor, right, not what's the current governor?
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I'll tell you, or what the number for the current covenent.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Governor is Matt Mayer?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I want to say, but isn't he seventy seventh is
seventy seventh.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Let's do a fact check here with the congress woman.
Let's see the seventy sixth governor of Delaware is in fact?
Oh wow, Matt Mayor.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Okay, Oh it's Matt Meyer.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, you calalcked my tea and you said it's the
current governor, and I thought you were You were wrong, Okay,
so we'll mark that correct.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Okay, yeah, okay, thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I thought my recollection Matt was either the seventy sixth
or the seventy seventh, and I couldn't remember whether he
was seventy six or seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Delaware's main thing, aside from you and Joe Biden, is
being the.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
First date, the first date, the first date, the first date.
What is the second state?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
The second state was Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's right, that's exactly right. You got that correct. And
in the US Constitution, what's.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
That Pennsylvania is actually not a state though it's a commonwealth.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Why do people from that area like to say commonwealth?
What is a commonwealth?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Commonwealth?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It's just another term they like to sound special.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Now, is Delaware a commonwealth? It's not a common lawth No,
we're a state. We're stated, okay. And then in the
US Constitution, how many times is the word democracy used?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Zero?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
None, that's right. It's all republic, all republic. That's right.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
And I am so so thankful for you coming on.
And the last question I'm going to ask is not
going to take a long answer, but it's going to
be the most important. And I've been really scared all
week to ask you.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Can I call you Aunt Sasa?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
I would love for you to call me Aunt. Everyone
can call me Aunt Sasa. I carry an aunt sasa
bag everywhere I go and it is my most honored title.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Okay, I was scared. I thought you were gonna say no,
We're gonna preserve that for the people of Delaware. Oh man,
thank you, and it's so it's such an honor to
have you on now you know, and I greatly appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I greatly appreciate you. Thank you for having me on.
This was fantastic And despite our random confusion around the governor,
who with the seventy sixth governor is? I really appreciate
the quiz too.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I love it. Thank you so much. I'll see
you
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Soon, Siya, thank you, now you Know and No de
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