July 7, 2025 • 49 mins
On this edition of Talkin’ Coffee, it’s the battle of the coffees! Which cup comes out on top in a blind taste test: Dunkin’, McDonald’s, or Starbucks? To find out, SE is joined not only by her producers Lauren and Derrick but also her husband (and coffee soulmate) John. Summer intern Logan also makes an appearance to defend her generation’s invention of the “home cafe.” Plus all the news that’s fit to sip!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The idea is that we want to taste tests, so
favorites and then which we think is which?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What if it's McDonald's, what if it's Starbucks? You know right,
we know that, we know that. Welcome to another talking' coffee.
Here it off the cup. It's a special one. It's
a special one.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's it's always a special one. But this is an
extra special Okay this.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I mean, you're right. We love them all, we love
them all, but this is extra special for two reasons. Yes, One,
we've been threatening to do a taste test for as
long as we've been doing talking.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Coffee, and we're doing it happening.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
There are cups in front of us.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yes, we're doing coffee, a taste test to both test
our ability to know what coffee is what, but also
what we prefer. The second reason it's special is my
husband is.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Here some job.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Can I tell you one of the reasons. There's two
reasons our marriage works. One we discott we sleep in
supper beds, which is super super important style.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
We can get that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We can get into that.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I do want to hear more about it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
There was there well, there was an episode where I
was sick and so I quarantined and learned in those nights. Oh,
this is what living is, not sleeping next to the
snor And so then.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
It was just speaking directly. When my husband travels, it's
my best week of sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Of course it is.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm like, no, no's you can go. Yeah what what
week are? Okay? Yes? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So I mean that is that has completely saved our marriage,
not that it needed saving, but like it has protected
our marriage. The second is we love coffee the same amount,
and that is it's very Yeah. Yes, it's something that
bonds us both culturally because John is also from New England.
Nice so Duncan donuts bonds us culturally in my blood
(02:07):
it's in your blood like mine. But also it's it's
something that is a part of our every day. It's
a part of our vacation, it's a part of our weekends.
It's just a part of our life.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Absolutely. Yeah, let the record show I don't snore.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
That's it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You snore so much. Maybe because of your coffee consumption.
We'll see, but anyway, anyway, anyway, the coffee, coffee really
bonds us absolutely, And I'll say he drinks a lot
more than I do.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Actually, oh really, tell us about your coffee consumption. Uh,
what's a regularly, Well, it's.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Mixed because every morning I saw off with a hot cup.
So I come down, I make a hot cup of coffee,
regardless to the weather.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, yeah, right, then.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
I leave the house immediately after that to go get
my duncan dice regardless of the time of year, So
hot cups. I have to have it as soon as
I wake up, come downstairs, make it, and then I
leave to go get mine.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So he does it all he does at home and
out outside. He does hot and cold. Yeah, in one day,
in one morning.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, before I do anything else.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, and then throughout the day. So that's your first
two throughout the day. We'll will there be more.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Yeah. I'll get a medium iceed to top it off
around two three in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, John, I just met you. I'm going to ask
you a very invasive question. Yes, are all these caffeinated?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
All caffeinated? Wow? I don't know if I've always had
some sort of immunity to caffeine or just doesn't infect
too much because I still sleep right at night. Yeah,
it doesn't keep me.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
The people around you may not, but you do.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
So even an afternoon. Caffeinated coffee does not keep me up.
It doesn't affect me. I don't get jitters, So I
feel like there's no repercussions to my What.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Was it like when I admitted to you, I don't
know if I can have caffeine anymore. I might need
to switch to decaf.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Oh, yeah, there's some soul searching.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Was U looking at different person?
Speaker 6 (04:08):
This is not the person I married?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And right right hard telling you I'm just having just
breakdown or telling you.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
It's a little bit about the same again, soul searching
on both levels. And also.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'll be there for you in both of these scenarios.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You like, whatever you.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Need think bol scenarios. Just said, I'm not changing, but
I understand your need.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
To change.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Exactly.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I will be the consistent part of this marriage. Well,
you transition and change.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Everyone needs a John.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Okay, you're in the rock.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He is the no.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
I will admit my coffee order has changed from when
I was in my twenties and it was extra light,
extra sugar every morning. Yeah, and that was it, extra sugar.
You could the sugar was still granular.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
That's what it's talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It was incredible when you got back to the bottom
of it and you actually get to crunch on the
yah or when you get it up the stress.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Oh it is so good but unsustainable.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah for sure, So we all grow up.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Yeah exactly. So still cream, still light, but now it's
some sort of artificial sweetener instead change. Change.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You're showing a lot of flexibility, you know, a human. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, we're happy to have you here. I knew you'd
add a lot to coffee talks coffee, and you've already delivered. Okay,
so let's I want I do have coffee news, but
we'll start with the taste test water. I know I'm
gidding now for the judge, for the judging, okay, yeah,
we should tell people these are all black coffees. Yeah,
(06:01):
and they're all iced, right, because the majority of us
we like an iced coffee, and so this is our baseline.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
It's hotter than hell outside.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And it's haities outside. So and what we're gonna do
is we agreed we're gonna make our coffees the way
we would normally make them, so they taste the way
we would normally taste them. Yeah, so let's do that now. Yeah, Okay,
I'm gonna make mine with milk and artificial sweetener. Yeah, yeah,
and they're just little shots.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
We're just gonna We've got we've got three white paper
you know, classic office cups in here, and they're all
filled about halfway.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yes, we added a little bit of ice.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
We've got Logan, our intern here, and she helped manage
the ice, you know, as you're pouring in the ones
in the backfind again.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, it's gonna say the ice seems to be very solid.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And who knew that the iHeart Office has an ice
maker like game changer?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Actually?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yes, okay, so this is the milk right here, right,
I'm gonna add milk.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
I don't know what you speak to yep, I don't
know IF's the accepted terminology, but I call this dressing
my coffee.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You're I did not bring a stir? Do we need
a stir?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
No? Okay, okay, okay, I'm also gonna do milk.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
A little of this, A little of this.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
What's it was?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Milk? I used most of it I've ever seen. It
is adorable. Ice coffee is also good for audio, because.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
That doesn't that sound so good? I love that.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I would also argue it's great for video and images.
When you have a glass iced coffee and the cream
or the milk comes down.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
The side, yeah it is, Yes, that's a good.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
John has a habit when we're on vacation and we're
at you know, the resort's breakfast program and they bring
the ice coffee with the you know, the swirling cream,
He'll take pictures and post them.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Yeah, his vacation pictures. Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Did you get you need milk? Okay?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
At home, we've been doing our ice coffee and then
we have like a cold foamer and so we put
like a load of foam on top and then it sinks.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh nice.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's nice because I actually like drinking it as is
without mixing it. And then you get the head of
milk and then like a rush of yes, the hard word,
the jot coffee, the.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Jot right, we loved the jot Okay, So we don't
know like what we're going to try first. You might
be trying something different than I'm trying first.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Right, Well know when we look under the cup.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
At the end, I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So the idea is we wanted to get coffee that
everyone has access to. We did want to try a
fancy New York Coffee, and so we went to Blue Bottle,
but their air conditioning was broken. Drama wow, and they
had to close and Logan tried, even can you just.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Bore me in ice coffee?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And they're like, no, get out of drug at it.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I just need one best one. But this is good.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
This will be good for I feel like there are
blue coffees in other cities, but this is good.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
For all our friends across the country.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
We have McDonald's ice coffee, we have a Starbucks iced coffee,
and we have the Duncan Donald's iced coffee.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
This is the people's coffee. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The masses. This is available to everyone.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Do we have preconceived notions of which one we think
we're going to question?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yeah, But do we have assumptions like I know I'm
gonna like this one better because we could surprise ourselves.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, but this could be dangerous.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I mean, yeah, I want my continued good relationship with
us to continue, So I think I have to say
Duncan is going to be the best one.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I'll try to find the Duncan and say it's the best. No,
this should be this should be.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
True and real yeah enough.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'm very curious about the McDonald's coffee now that we've
really talked to us.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, I feel like the Starbucks is for sure going
to be my least favorite of the three. And I
think that I'm wondering whether it's gonna be McDonald's Duncan,
because because we have talked a lot about you know,
McDonald's being surprisingly good.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Right and having such a cult following. Yeah, okay, but
I will say we are in, We are efforting getting
a Duncan sponsorship right now. So if you don't love it,
just keep it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You know, what is it?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
This podcast is edited?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So yeah, all right, all right, let's say my first one.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay, yeah, okay, hmm, okay, I feel like I already know.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I know exactly what this is. Pretty sure. I know
what my first one is, me too, Okay, I'm going
on to my second.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Cleanse my palet a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
John is the real Somalia hair? Your first.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm actually surprised by the second one too, and it's confusing.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Me me too, right, Okay, okay, hmm, I feel real
good about this.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
They're actually a lot more similar than I would have thought.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I know what you're saying the McDonald's and the dunk
are very similar because we I know what the star
works is. That's a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I'm going to live in shame if.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I me too, because I definitely have a preference for one,
yeah over the other two.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah yeah, I need to take a few more steps.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'm nervous now.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
There's a lot of coffee flavor in my mouth right now.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I know it's a little overbearing.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Okay, I have a definite favorite fingers crossed.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
I have a definite not favorite.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Me too, me too, me too, me too? And my
favorite and my second favorite are very close.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Okay, I'm ready as well.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Okay, okay, how do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
This's between let's say favorites.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Okay, okay, let's all pick up our favorite. Find out
what it is. I'm holding my favorite too.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I can't really decide, so I'm gonna I think I'm
gonna go with this one.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay, I'm holding my favorite, incredibly nervous. Why don't you
go first? Wait?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Wait, what do you think it is?
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I think this is Duncan Donuts?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Okay, what do you think yours is?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I think it's my I think mine is Duncan Donuts
as well.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I'm gonna I'm gonna say it might be McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I am gonna say I think my favorite is Dunkin Donuts.
And I'm not just trying to suck up.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Okay, okay, but I think it's either Dunkin Don't.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
It's it's close.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's not gonna be Star Wars.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
It could be one of those two. It's very close.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay, you go hold yours up.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Okay, it completely above board. It's just like scientific.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Scientific, Yes, that's your actual favorite. Okay, I'm holding my
actual favorite.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Dramatic. Do you want to take a back?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
McDonald's exciting very close, Okay, these two were very close.
The McDonald's one has a bit more coffee flavor in mind. Okay, yeah,
of mine.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
All right, Lauren, what's your favorite? What that's a star?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I thought, wow, Wow, it's McDonald's. Wow.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
This is the only one that I kind of knew.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Okay, So my favorite one is Duncan. You're just sorry
for listening. We're just peaking everywhere right now. It's very excited.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay. I'm almost positive my second favorite is dunk and
it is, of course my second favorite is Starbucks.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
My second favorite was Dunkin Donuts, so I feel good
about that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
My least favorite was McDonald and.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
My well, my second is McDonald's, which I expected because
the first and second were very similar, very similar, but
I kind of knew what they were. Yeah, and yeah,
the burnt one is Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yes, my least favorite star But I knew this right away.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You knew right away, but now that I'm tasting it,
it is more burnt. So it's so funny how like
knowing it is.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
The favor of it. And it's weird because I've never
really had McDonald's iced coffee. I've had like once or twice,
but as we've discussed, like when you get it iced,
it comes with cream and sugar, right, and you have
to ask for that not to be in it, And
so I think it just throws it off from me.
But it's very very similar to dunk. Yeah, it's a
very similar mild brew.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, yeah, and I like it. Good job.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I love McDonald's breakfast sandwich, yes, so hysteric.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah, the sash off of the egg is the greatest
breakfast sandwich ever invented or made. So I will get
McDonald's ice with it occasionally. Yeah, and like the vanilla
iced don't you know it's iced coffee is incredible McDonald's McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Sorry sorry, yeah no, I've had a latte from McDonald's
and I enjoyed that as well.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, this dunk Is is terrific. It's familiar, it's home.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Yeah, it's home.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I love it. But yeah that Yeah, the McDonald's is
just a little bit more coffee flavor.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, but because it's McDonald's though, you don't really know
how do they get that flavor? Like they probably like
have to like torture a chicken or get that. Yeah,
something you don't want to know about.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah. Well, great taste test guys.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, that was very exciting.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
This was terrific. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
I feel good. I feel good. We feel good about it.
Shall we do some coffee news?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah? Interested in it?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, coffee news. This first one's perfect, perfect because you're here.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
The headline of this story is my husband drinks a
pot of coffee a day. I asked an expert if
that's safe?
Speaker 5 (15:28):
It sounds did you write?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
This is from eatingwell dot com? And I was like, oh, perfect.
So this is how she starts this. This missive. This
is an investigative journalist who hunt went out on the
hunt to find out if her husband was drinking too
much caffeine. She says, my husband can't start the day
without his morning coffee. He's not the kind of guy
(15:50):
who can wait to get to the office before having
some coffee. On workdays, he wakes up as much as
two hours early to make sure that he has time
to prepare and enjoy his cups of Joe. His stringent
adherence to his ritual makes me worry. I'm a tea
drinker and enjoy a bag of green or black tea
leaves in the morning, but if I need to go
without it, I can listen to this. I don't mind
(16:13):
the fact that our coffee makers are seemingly always at
work when in recent months I've grown concerned about my
husband's health as he has started drinking around a pot
of coffee by himself each day. She's like describing a.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Drug as opposed to social coffee drinking.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Right, he's alone when he does it. He drinks a
pot by himself. It's not even like with other people
when he's yeah, yeah, And now I'm getting worried for him.
Do you think a pot of day is too much coffee?
Lauren and Derek.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I mean, I was kind of picturing this guy giving
himself two hours and brewing a pot of coffee, drinking
it in that time frame, and that to me sounded
like way too much in a two hour time frame. Yeah,
you know, I guess over the course of a day,
it sounds like a lot of coffee. I would say,
bring it, bring it back a notch.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I'm curious about other aspects of the relationship because I
feel like I feel like there's something, there's something underneath
this complaint.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This is not what she's mad about. She's mad about
she doesn't he does, doesn't go to work at home
all day, you can't get coffee.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
And there's definitely some judgment there.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I think I think their marriage is so good. She's
looking for something to be mad at him about because
everything else is so great. But she can't stay in
the fact that there's nothing to be mad at her
husband about. So she's looking and scraping for something to
judge him about.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay, Well, she finds the answers, and the answers are
the good news is this is according to experts she
talks to. There are things called polyphenols that are really,
really a good part of caffeine. They ward off inflammation.
Drinking a lot of coffee can help ward off cancer risks,
(17:59):
degenerative diseases, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, chronic kidney disease, liver disease such
as cirrhosis, and hepatitis. All that good stuff really is
in caffeine. The bad news is, she says, drinking too
much coffee too close to bedtime could interfere with rest.
(18:20):
Not for John, not for me, but for your people
sleeping next to you. Sure, four hundred milligrams or less
of caffeine a day is considered moderate consumption, and that's
what you'll find in about four cups of coffee. My
husband drinks more than that, she says, so he's at risk.
(18:40):
And then signs of too much caffeine include elevated heart rate, paltipitations,
high blood pressure, anxiety, and headache. Without a shadow of doubt,
the people with lower blood pressure, on average as they
age have less heart failure. Blah blah blah, she says,
two cups a day are the safest, four cups max.
Two ups safest.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I can't believe four cups is moderate.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's wild man, sounds like are we talking cups?
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Like the measurement like you would making it like yeah,
because their mugs are coming different sizes.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yes, the friends mugs are like the size of your face.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
I standard off the cup mug.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yes, there you go, There you go. So I don't know.
I think you're in the clear because I don't think
you drink a pottage.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Oh this was about me.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
You found the story on the air.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I think you're good.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I think I generally stopped before you feel anything. Yeah,
And but by noon I'm usually have it all in
and spend the rest of the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
On crystal light.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Right yeah, yeah, exactly, airing all my dirty laundry today,
all my beverage intake dirty laundry.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Listen. I did the bravest thing anyone's ever done on
this show, which is I switched to decap Yeah, so
you can you can get Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Have you ever had too much coffee? Like you felt it?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Like?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Usually feel in like my stomach almost like yeah, like
like I know, how's your digestion? Yeah, it's been better,
but that's usually the first place I know it, and
I get a little shaky and I need to eat. Yea, yeah,
that has happened. But that's usually because of an empty
stomach because I.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Hadn't, which you should not do. They say you never
want to drink coffee on an empty stomach because what
it does could actually spike your cortisol.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
According to this, Oh what does my cortisol do?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Stress contributor, weight gain contributory.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Pretty much, always drink what I want?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
This me too. Now I need this husband to go
and do a little research project about his wife's tea consumption.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
That's right. How much is too much?
Speaker 6 (20:48):
It comes out and goes around.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
I feel judged by this whole news story.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Okay, we'll move on. I have a good one. And
this is perfect because we have an intern in our
in our office, logan, Logan, can I make an assumption?
Are you of the generation Z?
Speaker 9 (21:05):
I am, in fact?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Okay, perfect the Z generation? Okay, well I'm not generationists. Okay,
you're all great for your own things. But I can
attack well I have to, because yeah, there's however coming
and we just met, Logan, and I'm sure you're lovely.
(21:27):
But I found this. I found this story and it's
it's rage bait. The story is rage bait for for
millennials and genexers, Okay, And the summary of this story
is gen Z believes that they've discovered making coffee at home. Okay, Logan,
(21:50):
have you made coffee at home? I absolutely have.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
I noticed that we have the stocks iced coffee and
the fridge here. That has definitely been my saving grace
because I will spend way too much money. I'm so
sorry at Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Yes, that's why I do apologize.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
But definitely it's very in line with gen Z.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
For me, and honestly, it's just about saving the money. Sure,
and I do the same thing with like my ice
chi lattes like I'll make I'll try to make it
as home as much.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
As I can. Do you feel like you invented that? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Not?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Thank you? You mean you may take a seat. We'll
get thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
You're Logan. Everybody yay.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Listen to this fresh hell. Tired of paying ridiculous prices
for their caffeine, fixed gen Z coffee lovers are spilling
the beans on the new home cafe trend. The new
home cafe trent. This was written by a gen z
I just obviously TikToker. Marlon Rodriguez Official filmed her hands
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filling a to go cup with a custom iced coffee.
She captured her video reminder to make your coffee at
home tomorrow morning and save those seven dollars elsewhere. Abigail
or Fino said in twenty twenty five, we will saving
money as she and a friend staged a cafe night
in complete with laptops, snacks, and the ambiance of a coffee.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I love this, but this last line makes me want
to hurt somebody. Okay, this is the last line. Making
coffee at home isn't new. Older generations have been brewing
their own job at four years.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
This is so rude.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
They're honoring they're honoring us.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
However, this latest trend isn't just about saving money. It's
also about creativity and community.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
How is this even a trend?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
How did this make it into a newspaper. We've made
it into a newspaper.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
We discover cooking.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You guys incredible bringing your own lunch.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
You know you can toast bread and put avocado on or.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Someone was hunting and gathering yeah, older generations.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
That is hilarious. That's a classic misstep.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I remember learning in ja school where it's like, just
because you are new to a place doesn't mean the
thing that you have seen is new to that place.
You need to check with everybody to make sure. Like,
have you seen this statue? I just saw this statue. Ye, No,
we've seen that statue has been around forever.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
This is a common thread among every young generation. They're
the first to do anything right. Yes, yeah, making coffee
at home? Man, that was rude.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I'm glad they're saving money. You know. It's me two
times out there.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
We didn't discover that either. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I talked to a millennial about the financial situations that
we've all been inherent.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yes, exactly, that we've all holdd through. Uh okay. This
next talking coffee story starts with a question. It's a
bit of quiz. Where would you all say is the
birthplace of coffee in the world? In the world? Oh,
A country?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I mean South America is where I immediately go, like
maybe like Brazil or something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Oh yeah, right, no, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You think it's like post Colombian, right, I guess I
didn't think about yeah, okay, hmm.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
What do you think, Lauren, I truly have no idea.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay, Okay, I think it's Yemen. Okay, So the birthplace
of coffee is Ethiopia. Okay, John is correct that Yemen
is where they first started making coffee the way we
understand coffee. Okay, So Yemen considers itself the birthplace of
the modern cup of coffee. Ethiopia is where the you know,
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the poop bean, you know, first became a thing.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Right, okay, wait, I see I'm new to coffee. Did
you say poop bean?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah, okay, we can.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Just ocac poop coffee. It's not cat yeah right. The
cats eat the coffee beans and then they take their
poop and make coffee ot of it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, but it's it's cats. So yeah, it's animals eat
the beans, poop it out, and that's the coffee beans.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's made today, yes, but not all Okay, there is
no I'm reconnecting with my Mormonism right now.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Actually, and it might swear it off again.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
All our coffee is poop based. This is a specialty
that people seek out because it's supposed to be superior.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's a really kind of coffee, coffee bean.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
All the generations enjoyed this type.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah back in the day. Okay, you're right, it's like
it's a specific kind. But yes, that is considered like
the best kind of coffee.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It reminds me of like the stomping on the grapes
for the like the special, like with your actual feet.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah right, okay, okay, but so is sparking a trend?
Your Many coffee is trending up now. There are all
these new yea Many coffee houses making what some people
consider to be the best and oldest kind of coffee.
It's one of the most popular trends in the United
States right now, from Detroit to Brooklyn, Houston to Chicago.
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Shops serving Yemeny style drinks or popping up everywhere. I'm
going to look for these.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, it sounds like we have to ship it in
from some obscure places to find it, but look it up.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
What makes it? What's a yemen Many cup of coffee?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You know you should have a journalist on if you
want someone to.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
I think you can get a good one on one
Yemen Road.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yes, there's obviously one in uh bedstide.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Due to the combination of unique coffee varieties, traditional processing methods,
and Yemen's diverse micro climates and roars, yu Many coffee
often has a rich, complex flavor profile file. Common tasting
notes include deep, fruity, and spicy characteristics with hints of
chocolate and wine.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Sounds delicious, it does does not come.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Iced, and it's very expensive. It's like limited production, high
production costs.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
So you know, do you see what kind of roast
it is? That's that that makes a difference to me
more than the beans. Is it like roast heavy roast?
That's like the flavor profile is how it's roasted.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Here, well, we'll have to try it, but I'm going
to be on the lookout now for a many.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
We'll have to take this on the road.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, let's just go.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yes, exactly right, Okay, I have two studies.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Great as always. Wouldn't be talking coffee without a.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, researchers from Tufts University. As we said, like every
college is studying coffee now, and so we get a
study a.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Day if you learn to make it at home.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Ye, Tuffs looked at the coffee drinking habits of around
fifty thousand Americans between nineteen ninety nine and twenty eighteen.
They were part of the US government's National Health and
Nutrition Examination Survey, and they had three big findings. First,
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drinking one cup of coffee per day was linked to
a sixteen percent lower risk of death for any of
the participants over the study period for many costs. Good news. Next,
drinking more coffee was linked to an even slightly better result.
For example, study participants who drink two to three cups
per day had a seventeen percent lower risk of all
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cause mortality.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Better news.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Finally, the benefit only applied to black coffee, which none
of us No, no, I put milk in. Usually none
of us drink black coffee, so those benefits do not exist.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Eliminate it completely.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
The benefit only applied to black coffee, now.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
But were they specifically testing cream?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
And two sp Adding.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Cream or anything beyond a very small amount of sugar
resulted in study participants having the same all cause mortality
rate as people who drank no coffee at all.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Okay, so it's not worse. It wasn't killing me face,
it's just baseline.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
It's saving your life.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, fine with that.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I'm not drinking this as an elixir to save my life.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Very rude. Yeah, but listen to the very rude part
of this study. It also only applied to caffeinated coffee,
although the researchers pointed out that there might not simply
be a large enough sample size of people who actually
drank decap coffee habitually because.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
They're all living in secrets. Are now bringing them out.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I am the first. Maybe more will come out and
will actually make up a significant study population. As of yet,
we do not.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I want to see the study of people like Alison
is al Alison Williams in Get Out where she has
like a bowl of milk and a bowl of milkless
cereal like combines, like eats them. What if you have
like a cup of coffee, black coffee and a top
of milk. Yeah, I just like do like one in
each Maybe you could get the benefit this way.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
This is how my mind works.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Maybe because it's still mixing.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, in the cafe of your home, this is my
home cafe, you like swallow a little like.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Laptop sugar on your tongue.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Okay. The second, uh study is much better. This is
a study from a Harvard researcher and it found that
drinking coffee may even aid healthy aging in women. Okay,
finding suggests a caffeinated coffee, not tea or decalf again
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another fuck you, may uniquely support aging trajectories that preserve
both mental and physical function. Researchers followed again around fifty
thousand women over the course of decades starting in nineteen
eighty four, analyze their health data and coffee drinking habits.
Factors that the researchers considered to define healthy aging were
being seventy or older, not having eleven chronic diseases including
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heart disease, diabetes, and cancer, reporting a positive mental health,
being able to maintain physical function, and not having memory
issues or cognitive impairment. And it found that having caffeinated
coffee improved all of these areas.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Cool.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Yeah, I think we all agree that caffeine is what
makes coffee coffee? Right, So.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Do we agree it's not the caffeine, it's not.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Let's not reopening there.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I'm in the acceptance phase of brief next piece of
coffee news. Do you like a good laundromat? Sure? I
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used to avoid laundromats when I lived in the city
as a young person because they were dark dingy and scary,
and I would only be able to go there at
night after work, and I would feel a little scared.
They were in like the basement of your building or
in a place that was not, you know, feeling very
safe folks with loiter outside. It just didn't feel great
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to me. There is a new trend to make laundromats
like coffee shops and bars.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I definitely had this idea.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I have this idea.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
They showed your idea totally did to spend so much
time in laundromats.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You have to unless you're like you live next door
and you can run back and forth, like you just
have to be there for the whole of the experience,
and it's a big chunk of time.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Sure well.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Pearl Lee's Washtub and Crown Heights Nice is a place
you can sip beer, work on laptops, eat on the
patio as you wait for spin cycles to finish. This
is Brooklyn and this is exactly what owner Theo Dupree
envisioned when he opened his laundro bar. Love it, I.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Love this genius.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
This is a place with coffee counters snacks inside Pearl Lee's.
Patrons can do their laundry in the front area and
then mingle at the bar in the back while they
wait for their wash. Hosts live jazz, comedy shows, what parties,
barbecue pop up. It's like a happening place. There's another
one also in Brooklyn and Brooklyn Heights called Laundry and Latte,
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Oh Cute, opened by Jean Roche Duma. He was a
laundromat rookie looking to open his own business after working
as a consultant at Deloitte for twenty years. After his
girlfriend recommended he looked into laundromats. He visited one hundred
spaces and conducted research because he's always had in unit laundry.
After two days, he knew he wanted there. I know,
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twenty years, Derek, he never suffered through this. After two days,
he knew we wanted to open a laundromat that served coffee.
He's so confident in his concept he signed an eighteen
year lease.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
That's crazy. There is nothing in New York that has
lasted eighteen.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Commit to nothing that long in New York.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That's completely insane, insane.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There is this one place that I have been to
I think every not every day. This is a kind
of bad restaurant in Park Slop called So and they
did a mean all you can drink mimosa brunch. So
back in my twenties, spent a lot of time there.
It is still around.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I was to put them under, but anyway, they've been
around exactly. I was like a few more.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I think this is a genius because you have you
have a captive audience, right, you have folks who have
to be there. They're going to be there depending on
how much laundry for several cycles. It takes a long time.
You might as well help them enjoy it and more
money off of them.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
It's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It makes total sense. Yeah, because the whole laundromaut concept
is supposed to be very easy for a business owner, right,
Like it's a allure because low overhead. You're just paying
for the machines and maintenance. It's a cash business mostly. Yeah,
you don't have to be on site to operate it. Yeah.
So this was the natural evolution and I'm so glad
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it's happening.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
The only downside I'm thinking about is people getting distracted
by the bar situation their laptop and then leaving their
stuff and so it doesn't move.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, but it may it takes too.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Long for their problem.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, I have another concern about this is I would
say a laundromat and a cafe, maybe not so much
a bar, but are two places that have a very
distinct smell when you walk in. Yes, and if you
were to combine those two smells, would that be a
pleasant experience when I want to a bar to my bar? Yeah,
so that there might be some competing aromas. You know,
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you have like the smell of coffee and the smell
of like SuDS right right, and bleach and dirty laundry
or maybe it's delicious, right.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
But I was thinking, you know, I think I'm gonna
embarrass myself for a second. How many like rom coms
and movies have these like scenes in laundromats. So maybe
this is even more like meet cutes happening because people
are hanging out. There's some more socializing. So maybe it's
bringing people to together. Yeah, have some cocktails or some
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coffee over laundry exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I like that for people and wholesome.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Apparently there's a whole you know, epidemic of loneliness and
isolation due to.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Our It's a place to go, Way to Go.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Life changing, Rightly, laundromat CA.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Okay, next piece of news. We've talked about this before.
How Hawaii is the only US state that can make
its own coffee not anymore. Where would you think if
there's a state on the mainland that could compete in
this arena, where would it be?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Florida?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yeah, Florida.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I mean Florida has the most similar climate, and so yeah,
that's what I would say.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
I feel like coffee is kind of mountainous. I feel
like it's like elevation. I feel like they grow it
in the mountains of Columbia and Ethiopia. So I would say, Colorado,
you've got high planes, desert, you've got some altitude. That
would be my guess.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
That's a good guess.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, good guesses all around. It's California.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Oh just because yeah, well this says according to Chowhound,
there's a reason why it's not been grown in the
contiguous forty eight states.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
It needs specific weather conditions, which are most readily found
in an area circling the equator known as the coffee belt.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Oh that's a new one.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I know, the coffee belts.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
I have a coffee belt before to drink too much.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I'm surprised that California is part of I don't know
where the coffee belt like cuts off, but I'm surprised
California is in it.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Well, it says. As it turns out, the balmy, consistent
warmth of southern California is just similar enough to these
tropical environments to make coffee farming possible, albeit with a
little modification. The first commercially viable coffee harvest in California
was twenty seventeen by a group called Fringe Coffee, and
while there are still relatively few coffee farms, the market
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has certainly grown since then, expanding to include more than
seventy throughout the foothills of southern California cool around Santa Barbara,
San Diego, there's mild temperatures there year round, and one
of the that's one of the key factors. But it
tastes a little different. It tastes a little sweeter because
of the long hot summers. Very very sweet coffee is
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the hallmark of this California coffee. And on the side
of difficulty, they have to supplement their meager rainfall with irrigation.
They just don't get enough water, so they say this
method works. But with constant concerns about water shortages in
this part of you know, the country, it's probably not
reliable you know, forever.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
But we're not getting they're doing teen year lease, they're
an eighteen year lease. No, But what do you think
the impetus is, because it's like plenty of places do
this very well.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Tariff California tariffs.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Still all comes back to terraff, especially for a right terriff.
I guess, so, I guess, so is that really the impetus?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean on them.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Being able to make it at home, even why it's
expensive to you know, get it over here, and so, yeah,
to make it more cheaply. But I'm not sure where there.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Doesn't sound like it's I don't think it's I don't
think it's cheap.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
I'd like to try the sweeter coffee too. You need
less sweetener because it comes a little naturally. Maybe I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
We were just in California. We had I told you
fills with a Z. But I don't have any confidence
that it came from a California growing farm, right, probably
a rabbit or whatever. Yeah, Okay, next time we're out there,
we'll try to find a California coffee. Okay, this next
one comes from view from the wing. Okay, the wing
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is this the wing of the dunkin Donuts plane.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Is not on an airplane. Okay, we can picture.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I think you've all agreed on this podcast. The worst
cup of coffee you'll ever have is probably on an airplane.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Never even get it unless I'm truly desperate.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Right and jet Blue and you have Duncan coffee that
I also like to sleep on planes, So yeah, that's
not for you. Yeah, I'll get a coffee on a
on a plane, but it's terrible. And as we've discussed,
I drink at iced and I literally watched them for
a hot coffee over air liced coffee. You definitely don't.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
There's nothing worse.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Well to add insult to injury, several airlines are now
confiscating your coffee at boarding.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Why why do you.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Think, uh, it's a weapon if you toss your hot
drink on the fight.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
This is what they're saying. They're saying, you know, I
want you to hurt yourself with hot coffee or hurt
someone else with hot coffee.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
That happen recently.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
They want you to buy their out My ice is okay, right, No,
they are confiscating your coffee. That's too far, which which
obviously not then about the hot coffee, because you're yeah,
taking my ice. It's not about the spilling.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
That's infuriating because then you've just spent like twenty dollars
at the airport to get the coffee.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
And then no, I would hide it, but you don't
think I would give it up.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
You've already spent your money on it. The airline is
taking away, which means the airlines could provide it to
you out of their own pocket, so it's not really cost.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
If I Virgin Atlantic, easy Jet and Ryanair no longer
allow passengers to bring coffee on their planes.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
But they don't make you pay for it, So I
don't understand what's the That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
They're losing money by because.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
And also if someone has come on with their coffee,
they're not your best customer for taking their terrible merely they'd.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
Well, I know, Ryanair is one of those places that
charges you for everything, including.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
For everything, and so I think the canking edge they
want you to buy their coffee.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
But are they commas getting all beverages or just coffee,
like like a cold soda or something, but they compascate.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Ryan wants airports to limit alcohol serve to passengers while
continuing to sell alcohol on board. I think it's alcohol
and coffee alcoholic.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
So you're not taking your water, the good vices.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, they're taking the stuff that you might have to
pay for. I don't know that i'd give up my coffee.
I don't know that I would do that.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
No, and I just would not choose to drink it
that whatever they're offering me, like, correct, it's gonna be horrible.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's rude. Like how can we
make airline travel even worse? Because it is truly the
worse these days. Nothing goes right. Nope, Okay, next story,
this is wild. We do a lot of tech, high
tech talk on this pod about like high tech coffee making,
right right, I got one for you, Derek, Oh, I'm excited. Okay,
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I open describe some burrs. This is not involved in grinding. Okay.
The Kara pod machine okay, makes water from thin air.
What count gadget pulls drinking water from kitchen humidity and
whips up a coffee, which might sound like something from
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the Jetsons, This says, Yet Kara Water's Carapod, revealed at
CES twenty twenty five, manages to pull this off. This
two in one marvel, serving as both a water dispenser
and a pod coffee maker, aims to shake up convenience
and eco friendliness.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It is inspired by the Namib Desert's stenocara beetle, which
thrives by snagging water from the air.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Wow, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
It draws up to three point two liters of water
each day, roughly a gallon or thirteen cups. It goes
through a strict three step purification system, heat to knock
out microbes you've e raised as zap bacteria and viruses,
and carbon filtering to scrub away chlorine odors and pfas chemicals.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Wow. Yeah, do not put this machine in the laundromat cafe.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Don't want the hair. But like, if we have figured
this out, yeah, surely there are better applications than making coffee, like,
for example, drinking water, like drinking water in the desert. Like,
I don't understand how is how is this just being
used to make us coffee?
Speaker 4 (45:17):
It must be expensive as hell.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, so the big boy version of this Kara Pure
is forty eight hundred and ninety nine dollars, but they
make an affordable one four hundred and fifty nine dollars. Okay,
that's a big delta between, yes it is.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
How much does it produce? Like?
Speaker 3 (45:36):
I feel like it would have to be operating for
like an hour, like hours to pull enough water?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Some three point two liters of water each day? Oh,
each day, roughly a gallon or thirteen cups, right, so
enough for you to drink coffee.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
It does it, but it does it continue? I see
it does it continuously throughout the day, so that I think, so.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Okay, but what if you live in Arizona?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, I don't know what your humidity situation has to
be in your kitchen to get enough are right then.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
You're using your humidifier.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I mean it is so humid out there today you
could make.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
A lot of coffee.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
You can definitely say have a good amount.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Okay. The last story is a bummer. Three things a
nutritionists wants you to stop putting in your coffee. Guys,
guess what they are?
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Sugar?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
You named them all all. The third milk sugar and sweeteners.
Oh okay, yeah, all the things you'd ever put in
a coffee.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
That's so all the things.
Speaker 6 (46:42):
Another good reason I don't listen to nutrition.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Creamers contain added sugars. Too much sugar in your diet.
We all know artificial sweeteners, we all know, we all
know why these things are bad. Guess what they say
to do instead? This is some more rage bait.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Yeah it's not butter isn't oh moreen.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I don't know if you heard this one, but there
was a talking coffee where we talked about the butter episode.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
I've seen this trend and I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Disgusting.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
I'm a man who likes his butter. I don't want butter.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
And coffee, not at all, not even a little.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
Can I put ice cream in my coffee? Is this
what they're recommending?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
No, they're trusting you're not gonna like any of these.
The first one's collagen, and I actually do put collagen
my coffee, but not as a replacement a substitute of anything.
But it does make it a bit frothy. I still
add milk, but collagen spices, adding spices like cinnamon, cardamom,
and nutmeg. Can give your daily brew anti inflammatory benefits
(47:43):
and okay, so what does that have to do with
sweet thing?
Speaker 6 (47:46):
After nothing, I'll try some old Bay.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, coffee, coconut oil absolutely not like absolutely not date syrup,
dates or Nature's candy, great gratulations. I don't want that
in the coffee protein powder.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
I'm not trying to bulk up right.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Nothing's going to replace the creaminess. I mean there's nothing, nothing, No.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
You need a thickener and nothing.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Those are terrible suggestions, and I am choosing not to
listen to that. Science. I have selective hearing when it
comes to science and coffee.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
Absolutely as you should, as we should.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Well, that's it. That's it for for talking coffee. Wow,
what an episode we've had.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
No very exciting for expanding. We did so much to
that for going on the road.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
So what do you think.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
I can't wait to go to Yemen.
Speaker 5 (48:36):
On the Duncan plane. We're going to Yemen.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
To put it all together. Wire up the Duncan jet.
iHeart pay for it. We're going to ye.
Speaker 6 (48:45):
I mean this, I learned a lot about coffee, thank you.
I got to drink a lot of coffee.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Welcome.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
There's nothing wrong with this there is something wrong.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, not a bad way to start the day.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Well, thanks guys, that's all the news that's fit to say.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
Delicious, Thanks, I see.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
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The idea is that we want to taste tests, so
favorites and then which we think is which?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What if it's McDonald's, what if it's Starbucks? You know right,
we know that, we know that. Welcome to another talking' coffee.
Here it off the cup. It's a special one. It's
a special one.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It's it's always a special one. But this is an
extra special Okay this.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I mean, you're right. We love them all, we love
them all, but this is extra special for two reasons. Yes, One,
we've been threatening to do a taste test for as
long as we've been doing talking.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Coffee, and we're doing it happening.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
There are cups in front of us.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yes, we're doing coffee, a taste test to both test
our ability to know what coffee is what, but also
what we prefer. The second reason it's special is my
husband is.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Here some job.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Can I tell you one of the reasons. There's two
reasons our marriage works. One we discott we sleep in
supper beds, which is super super important style.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
We can get that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We can get into that.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I do want to hear more about it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
There was there well, there was an episode where I
was sick and so I quarantined and learned in those nights. Oh,
this is what living is, not sleeping next to the
snor And so then.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
It was just speaking directly. When my husband travels, it's
my best week of sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Of course it is.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm like, no, no's you can go. Yeah what what
week are? Okay? Yes? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So I mean that is that has completely saved our marriage,
not that it needed saving, but like it has protected
our marriage. The second is we love coffee the same amount,
and that is it's very Yeah. Yes, it's something that
bonds us both culturally because John is also from New England.
Nice so Duncan donuts bonds us culturally in my blood
(02:07):
it's in your blood like mine. But also it's it's
something that is a part of our every day. It's
a part of our vacation, it's a part of our weekends.
It's just a part of our life.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Absolutely. Yeah, let the record show I don't snore.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
That's it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You snore so much. Maybe because of your coffee consumption.
We'll see, but anyway, anyway, anyway, the coffee, coffee really
bonds us absolutely, And I'll say he drinks a lot
more than I do.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Actually, oh really, tell us about your coffee consumption. Uh,
what's a regularly, Well, it's.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Mixed because every morning I saw off with a hot cup.
So I come down, I make a hot cup of coffee,
regardless to the weather.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, yeah, right, then.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
I leave the house immediately after that to go get
my duncan dice regardless of the time of year, So
hot cups. I have to have it as soon as
I wake up, come downstairs, make it, and then I
leave to go get mine.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So he does it all he does at home and
out outside. He does hot and cold. Yeah, in one day,
in one morning.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, before I do anything else.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, and then throughout the day. So that's your first
two throughout the day. We'll will there be more.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Yeah. I'll get a medium iceed to top it off
around two three in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, John, I just met you. I'm going to ask
you a very invasive question. Yes, are all these caffeinated?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
All caffeinated? Wow? I don't know if I've always had
some sort of immunity to caffeine or just doesn't infect
too much because I still sleep right at night. Yeah,
it doesn't keep me.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
The people around you may not, but you do.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
So even an afternoon. Caffeinated coffee does not keep me up.
It doesn't affect me. I don't get jitters, So I
feel like there's no repercussions to my What.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Was it like when I admitted to you, I don't
know if I can have caffeine anymore. I might need
to switch to decaf.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Oh, yeah, there's some soul searching.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Was U looking at different person?
Speaker 6 (04:08):
This is not the person I married?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And right right hard telling you I'm just having just
breakdown or telling you.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
It's a little bit about the same again, soul searching
on both levels. And also.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'll be there for you in both of these scenarios.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You like, whatever you.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Need think bol scenarios. Just said, I'm not changing, but
I understand your need.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
To change.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Exactly.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I will be the consistent part of this marriage. Well,
you transition and change.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Everyone needs a John.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Okay, you're in the rock.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He is the no.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
I will admit my coffee order has changed from when
I was in my twenties and it was extra light,
extra sugar every morning. Yeah, and that was it, extra sugar.
You could the sugar was still granular.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
That's what it's talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It was incredible when you got back to the bottom
of it and you actually get to crunch on the
yah or when you get it up the stress.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Oh it is so good but unsustainable.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah for sure, So we all grow up.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Yeah exactly. So still cream, still light, but now it's
some sort of artificial sweetener instead change. Change.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You're showing a lot of flexibility, you know, a human. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, we're happy to have you here. I knew you'd
add a lot to coffee talks coffee, and you've already delivered. Okay,
so let's I want I do have coffee news, but
we'll start with the taste test water. I know I'm
gidding now for the judge, for the judging, okay, yeah,
we should tell people these are all black coffees. Yeah,
(06:01):
and they're all iced, right, because the majority of us
we like an iced coffee, and so this is our baseline.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
It's hotter than hell outside.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And it's haities outside. So and what we're gonna do
is we agreed we're gonna make our coffees the way
we would normally make them, so they taste the way
we would normally taste them. Yeah, so let's do that now. Yeah, Okay,
I'm gonna make mine with milk and artificial sweetener. Yeah, yeah,
and they're just little shots.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
We're just gonna We've got we've got three white paper
you know, classic office cups in here, and they're all
filled about halfway.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yes, we added a little bit of ice.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
We've got Logan, our intern here, and she helped manage
the ice, you know, as you're pouring in the ones
in the backfind again.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, it's gonna say the ice seems to be very solid.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And who knew that the iHeart Office has an ice
maker like game changer?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Actually?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yes, okay, so this is the milk right here, right,
I'm gonna add milk.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
I don't know what you speak to yep, I don't
know IF's the accepted terminology, but I call this dressing
my coffee.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You're I did not bring a stir? Do we need
a stir?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
No? Okay, okay, okay, I'm also gonna do milk.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
A little of this, A little of this.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
What's it was?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Milk? I used most of it I've ever seen. It
is adorable. Ice coffee is also good for audio, because.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
That doesn't that sound so good? I love that.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I would also argue it's great for video and images.
When you have a glass iced coffee and the cream
or the milk comes down.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
The side, yeah it is, Yes, that's a good.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
John has a habit when we're on vacation and we're
at you know, the resort's breakfast program and they bring
the ice coffee with the you know, the swirling cream,
He'll take pictures and post them.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Yeah, his vacation pictures. Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Did you get you need milk? Okay?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
At home, we've been doing our ice coffee and then
we have like a cold foamer and so we put
like a load of foam on top and then it sinks.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh nice.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's nice because I actually like drinking it as is
without mixing it. And then you get the head of
milk and then like a rush of yes, the hard word,
the jot coffee, the.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Jot right, we loved the jot Okay, So we don't
know like what we're going to try first. You might
be trying something different than I'm trying first.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Right, Well know when we look under the cup.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
At the end, I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So the idea is we wanted to get coffee that
everyone has access to. We did want to try a
fancy New York Coffee, and so we went to Blue Bottle,
but their air conditioning was broken. Drama wow, and they
had to close and Logan tried, even can you just.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Bore me in ice coffee?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And they're like, no, get out of drug at it.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I just need one best one. But this is good.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
This will be good for I feel like there are
blue coffees in other cities, but this is good.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
For all our friends across the country.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
We have McDonald's ice coffee, we have a Starbucks iced coffee,
and we have the Duncan Donald's iced coffee.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
This is the people's coffee. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The masses. This is available to everyone.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Do we have preconceived notions of which one we think
we're going to question?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yeah, But do we have assumptions like I know I'm
gonna like this one better because we could surprise ourselves.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, but this could be dangerous.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I mean, yeah, I want my continued good relationship with
us to continue, So I think I have to say
Duncan is going to be the best one.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I'll try to find the Duncan and say it's the best. No,
this should be this should be.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
True and real yeah enough.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'm very curious about the McDonald's coffee now that we've
really talked to us.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, I feel like the Starbucks is for sure going
to be my least favorite of the three. And I
think that I'm wondering whether it's gonna be McDonald's Duncan,
because because we have talked a lot about you know,
McDonald's being surprisingly good.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Right and having such a cult following. Yeah, okay, but
I will say we are in, We are efforting getting
a Duncan sponsorship right now. So if you don't love it,
just keep it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You know, what is it?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
This podcast is edited?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So yeah, all right, all right, let's say my first one.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay, yeah, okay, hmm, okay, I feel like I already know.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I know exactly what this is. Pretty sure. I know
what my first one is, me too, Okay, I'm going
on to my second.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Cleanse my palet a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
John is the real Somalia hair? Your first.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm actually surprised by the second one too, and it's confusing.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Me me too, right, Okay, okay, hmm, I feel real
good about this.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
They're actually a lot more similar than I would have thought.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I know what you're saying the McDonald's and the dunk
are very similar because we I know what the star
works is. That's a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I'm going to live in shame if.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I me too, because I definitely have a preference for one,
yeah over the other two.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah yeah, I need to take a few more steps.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'm nervous now.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
There's a lot of coffee flavor in my mouth right now.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I know it's a little overbearing.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Okay, I have a definite favorite fingers crossed.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
I have a definite not favorite.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Me too, me too, me too, me too? And my
favorite and my second favorite are very close.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Okay, I'm ready as well.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Okay, okay, how do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
This's between let's say favorites.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Okay, okay, let's all pick up our favorite. Find out
what it is. I'm holding my favorite too.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I can't really decide, so I'm gonna I think I'm
gonna go with this one.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay, I'm holding my favorite, incredibly nervous. Why don't you
go first? Wait?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Wait, what do you think it is?
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I think this is Duncan Donuts?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Okay, what do you think yours is?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I think it's my I think mine is Duncan Donuts
as well.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I'm gonna I'm gonna say it might be McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I am gonna say I think my favorite is Dunkin Donuts.
And I'm not just trying to suck up.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Okay, okay, but I think it's either Dunkin Don't.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
It's it's close.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's not gonna be Star Wars.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
It could be one of those two. It's very close.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay, you go hold yours up.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Okay, it completely above board. It's just like scientific.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Scientific, Yes, that's your actual favorite. Okay, I'm holding my
actual favorite.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Dramatic. Do you want to take a back?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
McDonald's exciting very close, Okay, these two were very close.
The McDonald's one has a bit more coffee flavor in mind. Okay, yeah,
of mine.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
All right, Lauren, what's your favorite? What that's a star?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I thought, wow, Wow, it's McDonald's. Wow.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
This is the only one that I kind of knew.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Okay, So my favorite one is Duncan. You're just sorry
for listening. We're just peaking everywhere right now. It's very excited.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay. I'm almost positive my second favorite is dunk and
it is, of course my second favorite is Starbucks.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
My second favorite was Dunkin Donuts, so I feel good
about that.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
My least favorite was McDonald and.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
My well, my second is McDonald's, which I expected because
the first and second were very similar, very similar, but
I kind of knew what they were. Yeah, and yeah,
the burnt one is Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yes, my least favorite star But I knew this right away.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You knew right away, but now that I'm tasting it,
it is more burnt. So it's so funny how like
knowing it is.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
The favor of it. And it's weird because I've never
really had McDonald's iced coffee. I've had like once or twice,
but as we've discussed, like when you get it iced,
it comes with cream and sugar, right, and you have
to ask for that not to be in it, And
so I think it just throws it off from me.
But it's very very similar to dunk. Yeah, it's a
very similar mild brew.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, yeah, and I like it. Good job.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I love McDonald's breakfast sandwich, yes, so hysteric.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah, the sash off of the egg is the greatest
breakfast sandwich ever invented or made. So I will get
McDonald's ice with it occasionally. Yeah, and like the vanilla
iced don't you know it's iced coffee is incredible McDonald's McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Sorry sorry, yeah no, I've had a latte from McDonald's
and I enjoyed that as well.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, this dunk Is is terrific. It's familiar, it's home.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Yeah, it's home.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I love it. But yeah that Yeah, the McDonald's is
just a little bit more coffee flavor.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, but because it's McDonald's though, you don't really know
how do they get that flavor? Like they probably like
have to like torture a chicken or get that. Yeah,
something you don't want to know about.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah. Well, great taste test guys.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, that was very exciting.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
This was terrific. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
I feel good. I feel good. We feel good about it.
Shall we do some coffee news?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah? Interested in it?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, coffee news. This first one's perfect, perfect because you're here.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
The headline of this story is my husband drinks a
pot of coffee a day. I asked an expert if
that's safe?
Speaker 5 (15:28):
It sounds did you write?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
This is from eatingwell dot com? And I was like, oh, perfect.
So this is how she starts this. This missive. This
is an investigative journalist who hunt went out on the
hunt to find out if her husband was drinking too
much caffeine. She says, my husband can't start the day
without his morning coffee. He's not the kind of guy
(15:50):
who can wait to get to the office before having
some coffee. On workdays, he wakes up as much as
two hours early to make sure that he has time
to prepare and enjoy his cups of Joe. His stringent
adherence to his ritual makes me worry. I'm a tea
drinker and enjoy a bag of green or black tea
leaves in the morning, but if I need to go
without it, I can listen to this. I don't mind
(16:13):
the fact that our coffee makers are seemingly always at
work when in recent months I've grown concerned about my
husband's health as he has started drinking around a pot
of coffee by himself each day. She's like describing a.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Drug as opposed to social coffee drinking.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Right, he's alone when he does it. He drinks a
pot by himself. It's not even like with other people
when he's yeah, yeah, And now I'm getting worried for him.
Do you think a pot of day is too much coffee?
Lauren and Derek.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I mean, I was kind of picturing this guy giving
himself two hours and brewing a pot of coffee, drinking
it in that time frame, and that to me sounded
like way too much in a two hour time frame. Yeah,
you know, I guess over the course of a day,
it sounds like a lot of coffee. I would say,
bring it, bring it back a notch.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I'm curious about other aspects of the relationship because I
feel like I feel like there's something, there's something underneath
this complaint.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This is not what she's mad about. She's mad about
she doesn't he does, doesn't go to work at home
all day, you can't get coffee.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
And there's definitely some judgment there.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I think I think their marriage is so good. She's
looking for something to be mad at him about because
everything else is so great. But she can't stay in
the fact that there's nothing to be mad at her
husband about. So she's looking and scraping for something to
judge him about.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay, Well, she finds the answers, and the answers are
the good news is this is according to experts she
talks to. There are things called polyphenols that are really,
really a good part of caffeine. They ward off inflammation.
Drinking a lot of coffee can help ward off cancer risks,
(17:59):
degenerative diseases, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, chronic kidney disease, liver disease such
as cirrhosis, and hepatitis. All that good stuff really is
in caffeine. The bad news is, she says, drinking too
much coffee too close to bedtime could interfere with rest.
(18:20):
Not for John, not for me, but for your people
sleeping next to you. Sure, four hundred milligrams or less
of caffeine a day is considered moderate consumption, and that's
what you'll find in about four cups of coffee. My
husband drinks more than that, she says, so he's at risk.
(18:40):
And then signs of too much caffeine include elevated heart rate, paltipitations,
high blood pressure, anxiety, and headache. Without a shadow of doubt,
the people with lower blood pressure, on average as they
age have less heart failure. Blah blah blah, she says,
two cups a day are the safest, four cups max.
Two ups safest.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I can't believe four cups is moderate.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's wild man, sounds like are we talking cups?
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Like the measurement like you would making it like yeah,
because their mugs are coming different sizes.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yes, the friends mugs are like the size of your face.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
I standard off the cup mug.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yes, there you go, There you go. So I don't know.
I think you're in the clear because I don't think
you drink a pottage.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Oh this was about me.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
You found the story on the air.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I think you're good.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I think I generally stopped before you feel anything. Yeah,
And but by noon I'm usually have it all in
and spend the rest of the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
On crystal light.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Right yeah, yeah, exactly, airing all my dirty laundry today,
all my beverage intake dirty laundry.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Listen. I did the bravest thing anyone's ever done on
this show, which is I switched to decap Yeah, so
you can you can get Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Have you ever had too much coffee? Like you felt it?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Like?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Usually feel in like my stomach almost like yeah, like
like I know, how's your digestion? Yeah, it's been better,
but that's usually the first place I know it, and
I get a little shaky and I need to eat. Yea, yeah,
that has happened. But that's usually because of an empty
stomach because I.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Hadn't, which you should not do. They say you never
want to drink coffee on an empty stomach because what
it does could actually spike your cortisol.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
According to this, Oh what does my cortisol do?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Stress contributor, weight gain contributory.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Pretty much, always drink what I want?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
This me too. Now I need this husband to go
and do a little research project about his wife's tea consumption.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
That's right. How much is too much?
Speaker 6 (20:48):
It comes out and goes around.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
I feel judged by this whole news story.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Okay, we'll move on. I have a good one. And
this is perfect because we have an intern in our
in our office, logan, Logan, can I make an assumption?
Are you of the generation Z?
Speaker 9 (21:05):
I am, in fact?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Okay, perfect the Z generation? Okay, well I'm not generationists. Okay,
you're all great for your own things. But I can
attack well I have to, because yeah, there's however coming
and we just met, Logan, and I'm sure you're lovely.
(21:27):
But I found this. I found this story and it's
it's rage bait. The story is rage bait for for
millennials and genexers, Okay, And the summary of this story
is gen Z believes that they've discovered making coffee at home. Okay, Logan,
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have you made coffee at home? I absolutely have.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
I noticed that we have the stocks iced coffee and
the fridge here. That has definitely been my saving grace
because I will spend way too much money. I'm so
sorry at Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Yes, that's why I do apologize.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
But definitely it's very in line with gen Z.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
For me, and honestly, it's just about saving the money. Sure,
and I do the same thing with like my ice
chi lattes like I'll make I'll try to make it
as home as much.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
As I can. Do you feel like you invented that? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Not?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Thank you? You mean you may take a seat. We'll
get thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
You're Logan. Everybody yay.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Listen to this fresh hell. Tired of paying ridiculous prices
for their caffeine, fixed gen Z coffee lovers are spilling
the beans on the new home cafe trend. The new
home cafe trent. This was written by a gen z
I just obviously TikToker. Marlon Rodriguez Official filmed her hands
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filling a to go cup with a custom iced coffee.
She captured her video reminder to make your coffee at
home tomorrow morning and save those seven dollars elsewhere. Abigail
or Fino said in twenty twenty five, we will saving
money as she and a friend staged a cafe night
in complete with laptops, snacks, and the ambiance of a coffee.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I love this, but this last line makes me want
to hurt somebody. Okay, this is the last line. Making
coffee at home isn't new. Older generations have been brewing
their own job at four years.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
This is so rude.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
They're honoring they're honoring us.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
However, this latest trend isn't just about saving money. It's
also about creativity and community.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
How is this even a trend?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
How did this make it into a newspaper. We've made
it into a newspaper.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
We discover cooking.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You guys incredible bringing your own lunch.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
You know you can toast bread and put avocado on or.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Someone was hunting and gathering yeah, older generations.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
That is hilarious. That's a classic misstep.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I remember learning in ja school where it's like, just
because you are new to a place doesn't mean the
thing that you have seen is new to that place.
You need to check with everybody to make sure. Like,
have you seen this statue? I just saw this statue. Ye, No,
we've seen that statue has been around forever.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
This is a common thread among every young generation. They're
the first to do anything right. Yes, yeah, making coffee
at home? Man, that was rude.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I'm glad they're saving money. You know. It's me two
times out there.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
We didn't discover that either. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I talked to a millennial about the financial situations that
we've all been inherent.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yes, exactly, that we've all holdd through. Uh okay. This
next talking coffee story starts with a question. It's a
bit of quiz. Where would you all say is the
birthplace of coffee in the world? In the world? Oh,
A country?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I mean South America is where I immediately go, like
maybe like Brazil or something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Oh yeah, right, no, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You think it's like post Colombian, right, I guess I
didn't think about yeah, okay, hmm.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
What do you think, Lauren, I truly have no idea.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay, Okay, I think it's Yemen. Okay, So the birthplace
of coffee is Ethiopia. Okay, John is correct that Yemen
is where they first started making coffee the way we
understand coffee. Okay, So Yemen considers itself the birthplace of
the modern cup of coffee. Ethiopia is where the you know,
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the poop bean, you know, first became a thing.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Right, okay, wait, I see I'm new to coffee. Did
you say poop bean?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah, okay, we can.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Just ocac poop coffee. It's not cat yeah right. The
cats eat the coffee beans and then they take their
poop and make coffee ot of it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, but it's it's cats. So yeah, it's animals eat
the beans, poop it out, and that's the coffee beans.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's made today, yes, but not all Okay, there is
no I'm reconnecting with my Mormonism right now.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Actually, and it might swear it off again.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
All our coffee is poop based. This is a specialty
that people seek out because it's supposed to be superior.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's a really kind of coffee, coffee bean.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
All the generations enjoyed this type.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah back in the day. Okay, you're right, it's like
it's a specific kind. But yes, that is considered like
the best kind of coffee.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It reminds me of like the stomping on the grapes
for the like the special, like with your actual feet.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah right, okay, okay, but so is sparking a trend?
Your Many coffee is trending up now. There are all
these new yea Many coffee houses making what some people
consider to be the best and oldest kind of coffee.
It's one of the most popular trends in the United
States right now, from Detroit to Brooklyn, Houston to Chicago.
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Shops serving Yemeny style drinks or popping up everywhere. I'm
going to look for these.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, it sounds like we have to ship it in
from some obscure places to find it, but look it up.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
What makes it? What's a yemen Many cup of coffee?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You know you should have a journalist on if you
want someone to.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
I think you can get a good one on one
Yemen Road.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yes, there's obviously one in uh bedstide.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Due to the combination of unique coffee varieties, traditional processing methods,
and Yemen's diverse micro climates and roars, yu Many coffee
often has a rich, complex flavor profile file. Common tasting
notes include deep, fruity, and spicy characteristics with hints of
chocolate and wine.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Sounds delicious, it does does not come.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Iced, and it's very expensive. It's like limited production, high
production costs.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
So you know, do you see what kind of roast
it is? That's that that makes a difference to me
more than the beans. Is it like roast heavy roast?
That's like the flavor profile is how it's roasted.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Here, well, we'll have to try it, but I'm going
to be on the lookout now for a many.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
We'll have to take this on the road.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, let's just go.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yes, exactly right, Okay, I have two studies.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Great as always. Wouldn't be talking coffee without a.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, researchers from Tufts University. As we said, like every
college is studying coffee now, and so we get a
study a.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Day if you learn to make it at home.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Ye, Tuffs looked at the coffee drinking habits of around
fifty thousand Americans between nineteen ninety nine and twenty eighteen.
They were part of the US government's National Health and
Nutrition Examination Survey, and they had three big findings. First,
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drinking one cup of coffee per day was linked to
a sixteen percent lower risk of death for any of
the participants over the study period for many costs. Good news. Next,
drinking more coffee was linked to an even slightly better result.
For example, study participants who drink two to three cups
per day had a seventeen percent lower risk of all
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cause mortality.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Better news.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Finally, the benefit only applied to black coffee, which none
of us No, no, I put milk in. Usually none
of us drink black coffee, so those benefits do not exist.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Eliminate it completely.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
The benefit only applied to black coffee, now.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
But were they specifically testing cream?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
And two sp Adding.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Cream or anything beyond a very small amount of sugar
resulted in study participants having the same all cause mortality
rate as people who drank no coffee at all.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Okay, so it's not worse. It wasn't killing me face,
it's just baseline.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
It's saving your life.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, fine with that.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I'm not drinking this as an elixir to save my life.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Very rude. Yeah, but listen to the very rude part
of this study. It also only applied to caffeinated coffee,
although the researchers pointed out that there might not simply
be a large enough sample size of people who actually
drank decap coffee habitually because.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
They're all living in secrets. Are now bringing them out.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I am the first. Maybe more will come out and
will actually make up a significant study population. As of yet,
we do not.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I want to see the study of people like Alison
is al Alison Williams in Get Out where she has
like a bowl of milk and a bowl of milkless
cereal like combines, like eats them. What if you have
like a cup of coffee, black coffee and a top
of milk. Yeah, I just like do like one in
each Maybe you could get the benefit this way.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
This is how my mind works.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Maybe because it's still mixing.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, in the cafe of your home, this is my
home cafe, you like swallow a little like.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Laptop sugar on your tongue.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Okay. The second, uh study is much better. This is
a study from a Harvard researcher and it found that
drinking coffee may even aid healthy aging in women. Okay,
finding suggests a caffeinated coffee, not tea or decalf again
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another fuck you, may uniquely support aging trajectories that preserve
both mental and physical function. Researchers followed again around fifty
thousand women over the course of decades starting in nineteen
eighty four, analyze their health data and coffee drinking habits.
Factors that the researchers considered to define healthy aging were
being seventy or older, not having eleven chronic diseases including
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heart disease, diabetes, and cancer, reporting a positive mental health,
being able to maintain physical function, and not having memory
issues or cognitive impairment. And it found that having caffeinated
coffee improved all of these areas.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Cool.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Yeah, I think we all agree that caffeine is what
makes coffee coffee? Right, So.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Do we agree it's not the caffeine, it's not.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Let's not reopening there.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I'm in the acceptance phase of brief next piece of
coffee news. Do you like a good laundromat? Sure? I
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used to avoid laundromats when I lived in the city
as a young person because they were dark dingy and scary,
and I would only be able to go there at
night after work, and I would feel a little scared.
They were in like the basement of your building or
in a place that was not, you know, feeling very
safe folks with loiter outside. It just didn't feel great
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to me. There is a new trend to make laundromats
like coffee shops and bars.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I definitely had this idea.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I have this idea.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
They showed your idea totally did to spend so much
time in laundromats.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You have to unless you're like you live next door
and you can run back and forth, like you just
have to be there for the whole of the experience,
and it's a big chunk of time.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Sure well.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Pearl Lee's Washtub and Crown Heights Nice is a place
you can sip beer, work on laptops, eat on the
patio as you wait for spin cycles to finish. This
is Brooklyn and this is exactly what owner Theo Dupree
envisioned when he opened his laundro bar. Love it, I.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Love this genius.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
This is a place with coffee counters snacks inside Pearl Lee's.
Patrons can do their laundry in the front area and
then mingle at the bar in the back while they
wait for their wash. Hosts live jazz, comedy shows, what parties,
barbecue pop up. It's like a happening place. There's another
one also in Brooklyn and Brooklyn Heights called Laundry and Latte,
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Oh Cute, opened by Jean Roche Duma. He was a
laundromat rookie looking to open his own business after working
as a consultant at Deloitte for twenty years. After his
girlfriend recommended he looked into laundromats. He visited one hundred
spaces and conducted research because he's always had in unit laundry.
After two days, he knew he wanted there. I know,
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twenty years, Derek, he never suffered through this. After two days,
he knew we wanted to open a laundromat that served coffee.
He's so confident in his concept he signed an eighteen
year lease.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
That's crazy. There is nothing in New York that has
lasted eighteen.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Commit to nothing that long in New York.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That's completely insane, insane.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
There is this one place that I have been to
I think every not every day. This is a kind
of bad restaurant in Park Slop called So and they
did a mean all you can drink mimosa brunch. So
back in my twenties, spent a lot of time there.
It is still around.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I was to put them under, but anyway, they've been
around exactly. I was like a few more.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I think this is a genius because you have you
have a captive audience, right, you have folks who have
to be there. They're going to be there depending on
how much laundry for several cycles. It takes a long time.
You might as well help them enjoy it and more
money off of them.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
It's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It makes total sense. Yeah, because the whole laundromaut concept
is supposed to be very easy for a business owner, right,
Like it's a allure because low overhead. You're just paying
for the machines and maintenance. It's a cash business mostly. Yeah,
you don't have to be on site to operate it. Yeah.
So this was the natural evolution and I'm so glad
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it's happening.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
The only downside I'm thinking about is people getting distracted
by the bar situation their laptop and then leaving their
stuff and so it doesn't move.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, but it may it takes too.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Long for their problem.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, I have another concern about this is I would
say a laundromat and a cafe, maybe not so much
a bar, but are two places that have a very
distinct smell when you walk in. Yes, and if you
were to combine those two smells, would that be a
pleasant experience when I want to a bar to my bar? Yeah,
so that there might be some competing aromas. You know,
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you have like the smell of coffee and the smell
of like SuDS right right, and bleach and dirty laundry
or maybe it's delicious, right.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
But I was thinking, you know, I think I'm gonna
embarrass myself for a second. How many like rom coms
and movies have these like scenes in laundromats. So maybe
this is even more like meet cutes happening because people
are hanging out. There's some more socializing. So maybe it's
bringing people to together. Yeah, have some cocktails or some
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coffee over laundry exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I like that for people and wholesome.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Apparently there's a whole you know, epidemic of loneliness and
isolation due to.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Our It's a place to go, Way to Go.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Life changing, Rightly, laundromat CA.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Okay, next piece of news. We've talked about this before.
How Hawaii is the only US state that can make
its own coffee not anymore. Where would you think if
there's a state on the mainland that could compete in
this arena, where would it be?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Florida?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yeah, Florida.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I mean Florida has the most similar climate, and so yeah,
that's what I would say.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
I feel like coffee is kind of mountainous. I feel
like it's like elevation. I feel like they grow it
in the mountains of Columbia and Ethiopia. So I would say, Colorado,
you've got high planes, desert, you've got some altitude. That
would be my guess.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
That's a good guess.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, good guesses all around. It's California.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Oh just because yeah, well this says according to Chowhound,
there's a reason why it's not been grown in the
contiguous forty eight states.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
It needs specific weather conditions, which are most readily found
in an area circling the equator known as the coffee belt.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Oh that's a new one.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I know, the coffee belts.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
I have a coffee belt before to drink too much.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I'm surprised that California is part of I don't know
where the coffee belt like cuts off, but I'm surprised
California is in it.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Well, it says. As it turns out, the balmy, consistent
warmth of southern California is just similar enough to these
tropical environments to make coffee farming possible, albeit with a
little modification. The first commercially viable coffee harvest in California
was twenty seventeen by a group called Fringe Coffee, and
while there are still relatively few coffee farms, the market
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has certainly grown since then, expanding to include more than
seventy throughout the foothills of southern California cool around Santa Barbara,
San Diego, there's mild temperatures there year round, and one
of the that's one of the key factors. But it
tastes a little different. It tastes a little sweeter because
of the long hot summers. Very very sweet coffee is
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the hallmark of this California coffee. And on the side
of difficulty, they have to supplement their meager rainfall with irrigation.
They just don't get enough water, so they say this
method works. But with constant concerns about water shortages in
this part of you know, the country, it's probably not
reliable you know, forever.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
But we're not getting they're doing teen year lease, they're
an eighteen year lease. No, But what do you think
the impetus is, because it's like plenty of places do
this very well.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Tariff California tariffs.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Still all comes back to terraff, especially for a right terriff.
I guess, so, I guess, so is that really the impetus?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean on them.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Being able to make it at home, even why it's
expensive to you know, get it over here, and so, yeah,
to make it more cheaply. But I'm not sure where there.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Doesn't sound like it's I don't think it's I don't
think it's cheap.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
I'd like to try the sweeter coffee too. You need
less sweetener because it comes a little naturally. Maybe I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
We were just in California. We had I told you
fills with a Z. But I don't have any confidence
that it came from a California growing farm, right, probably
a rabbit or whatever. Yeah, Okay, next time we're out there,
we'll try to find a California coffee. Okay, this next
one comes from view from the wing. Okay, the wing
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is this the wing of the dunkin Donuts plane.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Is not on an airplane. Okay, we can picture.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I think you've all agreed on this podcast. The worst
cup of coffee you'll ever have is probably on an airplane.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Never even get it unless I'm truly desperate.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Right and jet Blue and you have Duncan coffee that
I also like to sleep on planes, So yeah, that's
not for you. Yeah, I'll get a coffee on a
on a plane, but it's terrible. And as we've discussed,
I drink at iced and I literally watched them for
a hot coffee over air liced coffee. You definitely don't.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
There's nothing worse.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Well to add insult to injury, several airlines are now
confiscating your coffee at boarding.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Why why do you.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Think, uh, it's a weapon if you toss your hot
drink on the fight.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
This is what they're saying. They're saying, you know, I
want you to hurt yourself with hot coffee or hurt
someone else with hot coffee.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
That happen recently.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
They want you to buy their out My ice is okay, right, No,
they are confiscating your coffee. That's too far, which which
obviously not then about the hot coffee, because you're yeah,
taking my ice. It's not about the spilling.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
That's infuriating because then you've just spent like twenty dollars
at the airport to get the coffee.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
And then no, I would hide it, but you don't
think I would give it up.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
You've already spent your money on it. The airline is
taking away, which means the airlines could provide it to
you out of their own pocket, so it's not really cost.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
If I Virgin Atlantic, easy Jet and Ryanair no longer
allow passengers to bring coffee on their planes.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
But they don't make you pay for it, So I
don't understand what's the That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
They're losing money by because.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
And also if someone has come on with their coffee,
they're not your best customer for taking their terrible merely they'd.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
Well, I know, Ryanair is one of those places that
charges you for everything, including.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
For everything, and so I think the canking edge they
want you to buy their coffee.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
But are they commas getting all beverages or just coffee,
like like a cold soda or something, but they compascate.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Ryan wants airports to limit alcohol serve to passengers while
continuing to sell alcohol on board. I think it's alcohol
and coffee alcoholic.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
So you're not taking your water, the good vices.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, they're taking the stuff that you might have to
pay for. I don't know that i'd give up my coffee.
I don't know that I would do that.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
No, and I just would not choose to drink it
that whatever they're offering me, like, correct, it's gonna be horrible.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's rude. Like how can we
make airline travel even worse? Because it is truly the
worse these days. Nothing goes right. Nope, Okay, next story,
this is wild. We do a lot of tech, high
tech talk on this pod about like high tech coffee making,
right right, I got one for you, Derek, Oh, I'm excited. Okay,
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I open describe some burrs. This is not involved in grinding. Okay.
The Kara pod machine okay, makes water from thin air.
What count gadget pulls drinking water from kitchen humidity and
whips up a coffee, which might sound like something from
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the Jetsons, This says, Yet Kara Water's Carapod, revealed at
CES twenty twenty five, manages to pull this off. This
two in one marvel, serving as both a water dispenser
and a pod coffee maker, aims to shake up convenience
and eco friendliness.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It is inspired by the Namib Desert's stenocara beetle, which
thrives by snagging water from the air.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Wow, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
It draws up to three point two liters of water
each day, roughly a gallon or thirteen cups. It goes
through a strict three step purification system, heat to knock
out microbes you've e raised as zap bacteria and viruses,
and carbon filtering to scrub away chlorine odors and pfas chemicals.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Wow. Yeah, do not put this machine in the laundromat cafe.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Don't want the hair. But like, if we have figured
this out, yeah, surely there are better applications than making coffee, like,
for example, drinking water, like drinking water in the desert. Like,
I don't understand how is how is this just being
used to make us coffee?
Speaker 4 (45:17):
It must be expensive as hell.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, so the big boy version of this Kara Pure
is forty eight hundred and ninety nine dollars, but they
make an affordable one four hundred and fifty nine dollars. Okay,
that's a big delta between, yes it is.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
How much does it produce? Like?
Speaker 3 (45:36):
I feel like it would have to be operating for
like an hour, like hours to pull enough water?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Some three point two liters of water each day? Oh,
each day, roughly a gallon or thirteen cups, right, so
enough for you to drink coffee.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
It does it, but it does it continue? I see
it does it continuously throughout the day, so that I think, so.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Okay, but what if you live in Arizona?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, I don't know what your humidity situation has to
be in your kitchen to get enough are right then.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
You're using your humidifier.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I mean it is so humid out there today you
could make.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
A lot of coffee.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
You can definitely say have a good amount.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Okay. The last story is a bummer. Three things a
nutritionists wants you to stop putting in your coffee. Guys,
guess what they are?
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Sugar?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
You named them all all. The third milk sugar and sweeteners.
Oh okay, yeah, all the things you'd ever put in
a coffee.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
That's so all the things.
Speaker 6 (46:42):
Another good reason I don't listen to nutrition.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Creamers contain added sugars. Too much sugar in your diet.
We all know artificial sweeteners, we all know, we all
know why these things are bad. Guess what they say
to do instead? This is some more rage bait.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Yeah it's not butter isn't oh moreen.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I don't know if you heard this one, but there
was a talking coffee where we talked about the butter episode.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
I've seen this trend and I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Disgusting.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
I'm a man who likes his butter. I don't want butter.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
And coffee, not at all, not even a little.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
Can I put ice cream in my coffee? Is this
what they're recommending?
Speaker 2 (47:20):
No, they're trusting you're not gonna like any of these.
The first one's collagen, and I actually do put collagen
my coffee, but not as a replacement a substitute of anything.
But it does make it a bit frothy. I still
add milk, but collagen spices, adding spices like cinnamon, cardamom,
and nutmeg. Can give your daily brew anti inflammatory benefits
(47:43):
and okay, so what does that have to do with
sweet thing?
Speaker 6 (47:46):
After nothing, I'll try some old Bay.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, coffee, coconut oil absolutely not like absolutely not date syrup,
dates or Nature's candy, great gratulations. I don't want that
in the coffee protein powder.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
I'm not trying to bulk up right.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Nothing's going to replace the creaminess. I mean there's nothing, nothing, No.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
You need a thickener and nothing.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Those are terrible suggestions, and I am choosing not to
listen to that. Science. I have selective hearing when it
comes to science and coffee.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
Absolutely as you should, as we should.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Well, that's it. That's it for for talking coffee. Wow,
what an episode we've had.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
No very exciting for expanding. We did so much to
that for going on the road.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
So what do you think.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
I can't wait to go to Yemen.
Speaker 5 (48:36):
On the Duncan plane. We're going to Yemen.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
To put it all together. Wire up the Duncan jet.
iHeart pay for it. We're going to ye.
Speaker 6 (48:45):
I mean this, I learned a lot about coffee, thank you.
I got to drink a lot of coffee.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Welcome.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
There's nothing wrong with this there is something wrong.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, not a bad way to start the day.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Well, thanks guys, that's all the news that's fit to say.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
Delicious, Thanks, I see.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Thanks guys. Off the Cup is a production of iHeart
Podcasts as part of the Reason Choice Network. If you
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I am your host, Se Cup. Editing and sound design
by Derek Clements. Our executive producers are me Se Cup,
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