October 20, 2025 • 51 mins
It’s the season two return of Talkin’ Coffee! S.E. is joined by her producers Lauren and Derrick to discuss what TV shows are most identifiable with coffee and consider whether there is any place coffee does not belong. Plus, a personal coffee-meets-technology tragedy, and all the news that’s fit to sip!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everybody, welcome to season two premiere of Talking Coffee.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We're Talking to Coffee.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Finally joining me as always are Lauren and Derek.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hi, guys, Hi, I see hello.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Very exciting to be back.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I would say I missed you, but like I didn't
because we talked all the time.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
And yes, is really much of a hiatus, to be honest,
it was a break for the listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, they got the hiatus.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We've been recording new off the Cup episodes. This is
this is our first Talking Coffee and if people don't know,
we've added a talking politics.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh yeah, super excited.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I mean it's like a we're It's like a little
empire we've got over here. Yeah, it is, which suits
me really well. I've always wanted an empire, and.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
This empire runs on Duncan.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
This empire does run on Duncan.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I was gonna say it should have been a coffee empire,
but at least it's part in the fold.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
A coffee empire or a glasses empire is what I
should be in the business doing. Alas but as always,
and actually more so this season than last, we really
want to hear from you, so I want to talk
about things that matter to you, whether it's coffee related
or politics related, mental health related.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Now that we have free.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Pods, essentially, it's just so much more real estate where
we can talk about so many things.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So I really want to hear from our listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Please email us at off the Cup, that's cup with
two p's at.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Stuff you want us to talk about, controversial coffee opinions,
political takes.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Do more of this, SSE, do less of that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Se like, we want to hear about it, and we
want to, We want to, we want to engage with you.
This is a community. It's an empire first, a community second.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Okay, And they should share their own coffee news, like
do you are you? Do you want to break some
coffee news in your local market. Yes, this is the
place for that.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's happening. And today we're gonna start a little different.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I have coffee news, I have lots of coffee news,
but I wanted to start and I'm hoping to do
more of this with some coffee questions like a trivia no,
not like a quiz like because it's early, Yeah, it
(02:32):
is no like something to think.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
About to chew on this meaty I like it. Yeah,
it's meaty.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's a full bodied This is a.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Full bodied episode. I like that a lot. I like
that a lot. Okay, let's get right into it. The
first I was thinking, what could we brand this? M m,
it's not something to chew on, it's something to sip on. Okay,
to sip on this.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
If you're chewing something has gone horribly wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Right exactly exactly, Okay, sip on this.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What sitcoms do you think did the most for coffee
and coffee drinking? Mmm?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I mean Friends comes immediately because you know they have
I think Friends has.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
To be number one.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, in terms of like the park hang.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The hangout is so central, the big mugs became iconic.
I think it became sort of a status symbol.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Whatever the version.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Of like the nineties yuppie was. It included spending a
lot of time in a coffee shop, you know, with
your friends, and the economy was great. Apparently we had
all the time to just sit around at coffee shop.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I know when we did.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It really was reflective of life, good times. Yeah, yeah,
all around. So I agree with you, But there's some
others here that you might think give Friends a run
for its money.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
So I don't know if this qualifies as a sitcom,
but I would say Twin Peaks and Dale Cooper agent
Dale Cooper and his black coffee, like.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay, to have had an impact.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Like his whole thing was coffee, and like that morning
cup of coffee. It was so he made the ritual, Yes,
feel like you identified with the ritual. Whether you took
it black or not, it didn't matter. It was like
that first.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Sip of coffee, Like he literally will take a sip
and go.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Ah, yes, he's a coffee advertisement.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was a really good one. And that's a deep cut.
I like that.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think a lot about Twin Peaks. Okay, I have
some others.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, I didn't watch this, but I understand Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Oh I was gonna say, oh yeah, yeah for sure because.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Luke Steiner functions like a coffee shop, right, and there's
so much coffee central to their sort of like fast
talking yeah, the relationship.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Also, Yeah, Rory as a teenager drinks a lot of coffee,
like it's part of her personality.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
This wasn't taboo.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
I guess it's it's kind of a signifier of her
like maturity, like like like she's.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I can see that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, and I've like, like I said, I haven't watched
the show, but I'm very aware of what it is.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And we actually have a a.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
House where Gilmore Girls was set, So there's like a
Gilmore Girls convention. Oh, yes, you're in this little town.
The house with the rattlesnake. Yeah, that's supposed to be
like stars Hollow, Starllow Hollow whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I think also the coffee was like central to the
setting of like Cozy Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
New England.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, I have another one, and this I
watched the ship out of and I still watch a
lot of the show when I'm like trying to fall
asleep Fraser.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Mmmm yeah, Seattle.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Oh them.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
There's a lot of scenes where they are like kind
of fetishizing a complicated coffee order, or like where are
the beans from today?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Are they Ethiopian? You know, there's a lot of like
snobbery is captured by.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That show perfectly because they are the perfect vessels for
that kind of coffee snobbery.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Totally. So like that's another one.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think about two that popped up on a couple
lists like that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now I've got one more, which should be obvious to everyone.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Okay, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I'll give you a.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Minute, because we've we've made this reference several times on
talking coffee.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
You give us a hint. Besides that, besides that hints.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Okay, it's an ninety sitcom.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Oh oh oh oh Seinfeld, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So think about it. Monk's cafe central to you know,
these people's lives. It's a place where, like so much
observation took place over Kramer's coffee lawsuits. Yes, right, Cramer's
caffeine fixes. There are a couple of episodes where either
Kramer's hopped up on caffeine, Jerry's hopped up on caffeine.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
H it's the coffee shop, the coffee experience.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Again like a destination, and all those places are like
where all the references we have besides Dale Cooper, I guess,
are like, yeah, having coffee with others in person. You know,
obviously that's a setup for a sitcom. You need to
be in person, you need that. But but with Dale,
he's never alone sipping that coffee. He's having that moment
(07:58):
in front of a waitress or in front of of
his like, uh, local police.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Counterpart, so it's still a shared experience.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
But I like this.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I think in that in that setting, it's central to
his character and that's part of his character development and others.
It's a conceit, you know, used to get people in
one place to just sit there and do nothing really,
which was perfect for Seinfeld. You know, there's an episode
where he and Lane are talking like, do you want
(08:27):
to go do something?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Okay? Do you want to go eat? Well, I'm not hungry. Okay,
do you want to just go sit and have coffee?
I want sure?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
You know, like, yeah, it gives them.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
An opportunity to sit and do nothing and just talk,
which would be boring otherwise, but coffee's there, so it
makes sense.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And Kreamer is a good like he feels.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
He seems like a character that represents a highly caffeinated
human being.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yes's embodied For some.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
He should have gone down to decaf probably.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, Well, I love that question, and that's so fun
our listeners to weigh in if we didn't mention something
that they thought of. And also, what like recent show? Yeah,
because I don't watch like a ton of recent TVs,
so that'd be good too.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Okay, Yeah, question two.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You say you love coffee, but where's the place you
don't ever want coffee or almost never have coffee.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's a riddle.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No, John's mom is also John's sister.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I have one to maybe get started.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I don't ever really want coffee at the beach now,
Anne dunk and bringing.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It to the beach is a.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Thing we do, but I don't love it because when
you're just out in the sun, it just melt so fast. Yeah,
it gets watery, it gets sand on it. Yeah, it's
just not I know, what's the thing people do in
New England.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's not a thing I like to do. I don't
want my coffee at the beach.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, no, that's a good call.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I do love coffee on long drives, but the amount
of time I will have to stop and pee exactly
after drinking the coffee is always like a little disappointed.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's a trade off. It's a trade off.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You really have to weigh how much you need and
it's usually a second cup for me, so it's like,
how much do I really need this?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Because again it's out of boredom.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We were like, I'm kind of bored, Like maybe we
should get a coffee so I can start like I
need a coffee.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I don't want to get something to eat. Yeah, yeah,
but I want something.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I want to consume something, or if I was about
to go in a long hike, also not a great
time for a coffee.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, yes, we heard that from Mark two plus.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
He started hiking and it was like coffee was no
longer conducive.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Do a long day in the woods.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
That's a fantast sick reference. Yep, what about you, Derek, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Think similar to hiking, maybe the gym, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I yes, I feel like people do that. Though, really
I feel like people do that. I mean back when
I went to the gym, it was the first thing
in the morning. I didn't bring one because I wanted
to savor that for later. Yeah that was four hours exactly.
But yeah, I definitely sat people with coffee at the gym.
That's a good one, terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't ever want coffee at the movies at the
movie theater.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Oh yeah, it's likely to do something else.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's a diet coke.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Yes, I did order a coffee at the Alamo Draft House,
and because you know, you can get food there.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, but you know, I actually agree with you.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
It wasn't the best You couldn't. It's hard to it's
hard to like savor coffee in the dark. It's like,
I don't know, there's something about it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's a weird feeling.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And similarly, I don't want to get up and have
to leave the movie. And you know, I don't need
to be hopped up while watching a movie.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, I want to be kind of relaxed.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I will add to that. Airplanes, and we've talked about
this before, but only because they're bad.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, the coffee I would enjoy. I would enjoy coffee
on an airplane, except it's so bad.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Well, I also often feel so dehydrated if it's like
a long flight. I'm like, I need to just chug
some water here.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yes, although we did debunk the myth that coffee is dehydrating.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, I'm still I feel my body rejects that idea.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, you still need water, you want water, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Well, see, before we get to coffee news, can I
have some personal coffee news that I that I want.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
To share coffee news? Yeah, yeah, favorite news.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I'm talking to you all on my laptop, my work
laptop I also have, or I should say had a
personal laptop, and I took that laptop to a coffee
shop the other day and promptly spilled my coffee all
over my laptop.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Its sorry, and.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I well, I ran down, grabbed some napkins, like tried
to do the best salvage I could, and I was
like writing something and I'm just like typing away and
a couple of paragraphs later, that is.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Is dead.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
But you know, I feel like as somebody that that
uh embraced coffee later in life, I I this was
a good like milestone, like all right, I've had now
like spilled coffee on a piece of electric.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Ask because we've all done it.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You didn't learn it earlier, earlier in college, right in college,
have so many things around the electronic coffee.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
It's yeah dangerous anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So I'm sorry, that's right, person, I'm so sorry for
you rip that laptop, but you had to go through this.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
It was it was important, it was important, and I
didn't have any important files on it. It was all
thank thank you cloud, the cloud.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So yeah, okay, well that is that's that's terrible personal news,
but thank you for sharing it.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
You're welcome. I hope you can take me to a
better place. Now with this, let's go to a better place.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Okay, we're going to start with if you had to
guess how much is the world's most expensive cup of
coffee and where would you find it?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Dubai? Yep, got it?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Good?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, yow? Absolutely in American dollars, in US dollars.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I mean is it? Oh?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I was saying, it couldn't possibly be more than twenty dollars?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Guys on a hundred?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Is it tat in gold or instead of milk you
get just gold?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Nope, Nope, it's coffee and it's a cup of coffee.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Okay, yeah, so wait, it's more than one hundred.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Dubai's Roasters Specialty coffee house is selling a washed Panamanian
gesha for blank per cup, the world's most exclusive and expensive.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It's just a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with fifty.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Okay, it's six hundred and eighty dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Oh my god, who's buying that? That's insane, That's truly insane.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I feel like Dubai. It's a it's a really, it's
an amusement park over their wealth.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just wealth.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And so if you're wealthy, you go and you're like, yeah,
I'm gonna go on this ride. Yeah, I'm gonna buy
the world's most expensive coffee.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Here, six hundred dollars cup of coffee and go on
this ride. Right.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Is that wild?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I would love to talk to anyone who actually drank
that apparently.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, it's just more expensive than the second most
expensive cup of coffee, which you can find in Taiwan
at Simple Kufa for six hundred and thirty five US
dollars and they sell one.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Awake.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Wow, I mean that's it.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
That's how that cafe Surprise survives. I know.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
That's completely insane.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Under time, yeah, in the opposite direction, in the opposite
direction economy.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Shit over here, guys.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So, thirty four New York City Starbucks locations are closing.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I'm sure you.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Saw one block away from my apartment the news.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh well I have and listen, they're shuddering stores all
around the country. And like I said, thirty four just
in New York City, that's a lot. I've got all
the addresses of all the stores.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I don't think that will mean anything to most people.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
But one of them means something to me because it's
my but ox with it.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Do we actually care about this though? Because Starbucks is
not the favorite, you know, it's not.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's bad news for all coffee drinkers, I see, okay,
with between the tariffs and then the hike of the
cost of beans, it's just not good news for coffee drinkers. Yeah,
my fantasy one hundred and eighty dollars cup of coffee.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
No for sure, No, yeah, you're ruining my fantasy that
When when I found out that the Starbucks is closing,
I just kind of assumed that some cooler coffee shop
was going to take its place, which that's what I hoped.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But maybe you're right. Maybe it's that's I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
One can absorb some of this economic pain. It would
be a giant chain like a Starbucks. And if they're
we're saying listen, we need to like lean lean down
and you know, adjust to this market.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I don't think it's great news for mom.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
And pops, you know, so true, it's really not great
for it. I mean I can't even imagine how many
employees they have just in New York.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That really sucks.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah, Well, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Gonna lay off nine hundred workers across the country.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Ooh, that's rough. Maybe they just like boom, this is there.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Listen, we can say like Starbucks was bloated, there were
Starbucks for too many places. Maybe yeah, yeah, Again, it's
not about Starbucks as much as it is about the
fate of our coffee. To that end, my next coffee
news story is not good. Costco's coffee will keep going
up in price. Oh, if you're new to Costco, you
(18:48):
may go down the coffee aisle and find a three
pound tin of coffee for twenty three ninety nine and
think to yourself, that's a pretty solid deal. It amounts
to only eight dollars a pound. However, if you've been
buying coffee from Costco for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know how good it used to be pre pandemic.
That same tin was nine, nine, nine or thirty three pound.
That whoa huge that's a huge markup.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
The sad fact is that twenty three to ninety nine
is most likely the cheapest it will be for a while.
And it's not just Costco. And they say tariffs are
part of the equation. Coffee prices have left up twenty
point nine percent in the past year, and that price
increase started before the tariffs even took place, so it's
(19:37):
not just the tariffs. The tariffs are insults on top
of injury.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
The prices were.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Already going up, so it's not great. It's not great.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
No, Is that been inflation, an inflation issue or even
something else?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, I mean part of the coffee bean issue, which
is very complicated. It's mostly about droughts in Vietnam and
Brazil and oh some other places. About it's climate change, weather, yeah,
that sort of thing which made it more expensive, and
then the economy and the resk, you know, inflation and
tariff's like no, it's a perfect storm of badness.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Oh no, I will say, my favorite New York City
cart guy on the corner of fifty fifth and sixth Avenue,
continues to be a dollar fifty for a small small
cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So maybe he's yeah, tarraf resistant those coffee carts. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Maybe, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I'm sure that it was a dollar like pre pandemic,
but you know, fifty cents is a pretty reasonable mark cup.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah yeah, uh, okay, moving on this, coffee expert tested
forty k cups. Here are the five pods i'd put
in my cureing. These are some good ones and some
interesting ones. No one will be surprised to know that
the mecafe Premium Roast pod is in the top five.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No one on this show, that's for sure. No one
on this show.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
He said, I didn't expect to like the mcafe Premium
Roast as much as I do. I should have seen
McCafe coming, despite other popular roasters disappointing in K cup form.
My father's also sung the praises of McDonald's coffee for
some time, although his interest lies mainly in this senior discount.
But yeah, we know that everyone loves McDonald's coffee, loves it,
(21:31):
and we did our taste test.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I've seen these, I've had these for a time. The
Donut Shop, the original Donut Chop coffee.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a little a little
donut on the top.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, exactly. I don't know this one.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Kahawa eighteen ninety three Safari Blend.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's apparently a really good one.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Newman's Own Newman's Own Organic Special Blend makes the top five.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Newman's Own Can't Do yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Also, no, all my profit profits don't go to charity again.
And then finally, Caribou coffee. We know Caribou coffee your
daybreak blend a light roast. So if you've got any
of those five in your K cup collection, you're doing okay.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Something this person said in the beginning made.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Me feel like the CA cup is a lesser than
version of an original?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Do you you're a big cakeup drinker.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Lesser than like like, it's of course better to get
it fresh.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, Like, so you're saying said something about like the
CA cup version disappointed, you know, like acknowledging that the
CA cup version is a different taste than if you
brewed your own.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I think, unless you're doing fancy things to your coffee,
like you want foam, you want the like. To me,
it tastes the same. You know, I do dunk and
I do n espresso and espresso. I can't judge against anything.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It's great. The Duncan Cacus taste like Duncan.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Okay, it's not very different for me. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Well, and see I can vouch because when I was
at your house recording your interview with your.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Husband, you sent me home with one and it tasted great.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Right, so I don't maybe some are less than and listen,
I'm sure it's always better to have a professionally made
cup of coffee. But like also, it's not that difficult coffee.
We should not overcomplicate it. It should be just fine
in our homes, especially in this economy. I should be
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making it at home absolutely, Okay, listen to what I found.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
This was not a coffee news finding this.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I was just on Instagram and I came across a
coffee shop in Rhode Island called Breualogy Coffee and Lounge Mouthful. Okay,
it's in Smithfield, Smithfield, but there's a new location coming
to Cranston which will make my husband happy. They are
offering I don't know what this is for split cup
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iced coffees.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Hmmm, I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
So the milk is separate on.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
One side, cups in one mm hmmm, split down the middle,
so you could have one kind of coffee iced coffee
and another kind of iced coffee in the other half.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Why then the tops must be specialty too, right, Like
how do you drink they are?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They are completely split with two straw holes.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Two you wouldn't want to like lift it like that,
I would spill everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Probably not probably got some engineering issues. But I'm also
I'm just thinking, like, have I ever gone in and
been like, well, I really want hazelnut iced coffee but
also a pumpkin spice.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
No, no, you.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Would never say that because now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
No, but what would I want to?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Like, yeah, maybe you could do one decap and one
not I guess if you were in that era.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Sure transition, Sure I.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Want a little caffeine, but not all. But no, no,
I wouldn't do that. I think it's a fun novelty,
but like, I'm not really sure what it's for.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, maybe they have like really specialty coffee is iced coffees,
and so they Yeah, they found that that's what their
people wanted, and maybe whatever town in Rhode Island, Smithfield.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
It's yet another example of like, uh, our society today
just having too many choices. You know, people don't even
want to mess. They don't even want to choose the
coffee that they're going to drink that day.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, when I'm trying to watch a TV show, I'm like,
what show? What do I watch? And there's too many
huh oh.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Speaking of this is perfect. My husband was showing me
a feature on our TV where you can have four
shows playing in picture and picture but only one with
a sound.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
My brother does that with sports, and I'm like, this
is what crazy people do, psychotic completely.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
This is the this is the TV version of this coffee.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
It is it is.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
How could you concentrate on anything?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
What would be the point? I just know I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
No, like I want to overwhelm.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
He was like, he was like, look at this.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You could have Bravo here, CNN here, And I was like,
oh my god, get this off the screen right now.
This is giving me anxiety a headache.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I am no, especially especially with how you would enjoy
to watch Bravo. You wouldn't want the outside world interfering, right.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
It's not a.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Game where I'm just like like glance over at it.
I am sitting with like my face at the TV
in total silence, hanging on every word. I don't want
anyone in my room. This is something I do alone.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's amazing. I don't even eat while I'm watching Bravo.
It's too much distraction.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, how who would watch anything that way?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I'm totally with you.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
I'm so annoyed by this sort of multiple screen thing
changing the way that we watch like movies, TV shows, Like.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
You should watch the thing.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I don't know if I totally agree that Bravo qualifies
as that, but like, you know, but like you know,
a story with a narrative, you want to pay attention,
you want to like really yeah, I know, but maybe sports,
you know, if two games are happening.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I try.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I've really tried to put my phone somewhere else when
I'm watching TV, even even like the random small thing
that I'm watching, because I'm like, what is the point.
And also like I've been trying to get off of
Instagram generally, and I think that has helped because I'm like,
oh well, I'm not even sure what I would look
at on my phone though, right, yeah, right, I know
what you mean.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, Okay, We've got one of these. A map reveals
top cities for coffee drinkers based on shops and spending.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
We've done a.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Lot of these, but this is a new one. It's
from Newsweek and the study was done by wallet hub. Okay, okay,
and it was released ahead of National Coffee Day, which
we just had and it looked at a hundred of
the most populated American cities across twelve key metrics including
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the number of coffee shops, coffee houses and cafes per capita,
average coffee prices, and households spending on coffee, and each
city received a weighted score out of a hundred. Read
So this sounds very sciencey to me. This is not
a mattress company doing one of these studies. We've had
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that before. So we've got our top ten care to
venture guesses.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I guess I would still say New York. It just
feels like there's a lot of coffee here.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It's not on the list. It's not in the top ten.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
I mean, it sounds like it's got to be Dubai
right after what we said earlier.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Is it global or not US?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's US?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Okay, we'll go with the old favorites. Then Seattle.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Seattle's number five. Los Angeles it's not on this list. Miami,
Miami is number four. New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
No, I'm just going off of the literally what we
have said in the past.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Austin, did you say what did you say?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Oh, Boston, No, Austin, That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Austin, Texas is on the list. You're missing some big ones.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
It's all getting muddled.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, don't overthink it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Okay, okay, okay, impossible.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I'm already number one. Oh okay, Portlandrancis.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Seems to be.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Oh yeah, San fran San Francisco's number seven. Yeah, okay,
you got those big ones. The rest are weird. Number
two is Orlando, but I don't know why. Number three
is Long Beach, California. Number six is Tampa, number nine
is Oakland, California, and number ten is Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What was number three?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Long Beach, California? What this is?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I don't or Orlando does not even count. But Portland,
I feel like, has topped all of the lists.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, Portland's a mainstay for all the reasons usually is
in there. Uh okay, I've got coffee crime Oho.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
This is now a true crime podcast.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Now listening to a true crime podcast.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
A Kona, Hawaii woman is facing federal fraud charges after
she allegedly sold mislabeled coffee.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
For over a decade.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Just this last week. In a twenty six page federal indictment,
Patricia Johnson was charged with twenty four counts, including sixteen
counts of wirefraud, five counts of illegal monetary transactions, and
three counts of obstruction of justice. According to prosecutors, between
twenty twelve and twenty twenty four, she earned millions in
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revenue by advertising, labeling, and selling one hundred percent ConA coffee.
The court documents said she ran ConA Coffee cafe, which
is sense closed, as well as an onlay store, conducted
sales on Amazon allegedly while she knew that the more
than one hundred and ninety four thousand pounds of coffee
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she had purchased from wholesalers in Seattle and Oakland originally.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Came from South America, not ConA.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Oh how'd she get found out?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
She falsely toil told employees and customers that the coffee
was grown on a local, private organic farm at high
elevation in the mountains. In ConA, federal agents seized over
eight hundred and thirty thousand dollars in cash after a
series of property searches, FBI agents arrested her. They're now
asking that she beheld at the Federal Detention Center in
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Honolulu without bail.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'm not sure how she was found out.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
This doesn't say I would love for it to be
like a coffee connoisseur, like deal king and being like, yeah,
this is absolutely not grown from this organic farm. I
would love for it to be an instant job, where
like someone inside snitched, someone saw the pos the purchase orders,
someone came across some evidence of the Seattle coffee that.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
She purchased or whatever and was like, oh no, who
do I tell I may become an informant. I want
this movie where she goes in like wired into the
the whistleblower.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, that's that goes in my mind.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Well, I mean that was really dumb on her.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It was really dumb of her.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, but I bet in Hawaii, the only US state
that can produce coffee, as we know, there is pressure
to to serve local, organic, especially coffee, Like, I bet
there's really high pressure to do that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And she thought, well, I'll do it but cheaper. Yeah,
I'll do it.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I'll game the system. Yeah, never gained the system for
too long. This is not really news.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
But you guys have heard of cat cafes.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
M there's one in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, oh so I thought this was only a thing
in like Japan.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
No, there's one in New Paltz, New York, where I
was the other weekend.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yes, yes, we did not go in. And Derek, you
have one in your neighborhood in Queens, I do. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
I mean it's a very Asian neighborhood and maybe so
there is a connection there. But yeah, it's lovely. There's
all kinds of signs on the window that's like, do
not tap the windows right hitting the windows.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Well, that's one thing that worries me about a cat cafe.
I was just reading about a cat cafe in California
in Grover Beach. This one features adult cats and kittens
for adoption, and so there's like a lot of cats
in there that she's trying to place in forever home.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So there's a cause to it. But here's my here's
my issue, here's my question, my concern.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
If you are allergic to cats, as I am very allergic,
you're and I don't feel like that's uncommon, that's pretty common.
You're really excluding a huge chunk of the population from
your bit, from your business, which I can.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Just choose not to go.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
But as a business owner, that feels a little limiting.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's just a choice you make.
Or maybe they're just like die hard cat fans. Well,
they clearly don't care. They don't care that I can't.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Go in there, which is fine, but I mean I
would die. I would die going into a cat cafe.
I would have to, like, you know it, hose down.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I'm sure the thought of it.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
My husband is also allergic, and just like the thought
like when we pass it, when we go to new policy,
he's always like, I'm gonna walk over it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Even like, yeah, it's that for some of us, it's
really that bad. Yeah, And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
There's also my question of like do I want pets
where I'm eating and drinking.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, I don't know. I see it all the time
with dogs.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
They're a little hair, they're little hair everywhere, Like, I
don't that's shed.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I mean, I know they're very sanitary animals.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I get that, but like there's a smell that comes
along with animals.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And I don't love the normalization of like bringing your
dog into the restaurant.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Yeah, yeah, I don't love that The cafe in my
neighborhood is not food forward. I think there is like
a vending machine. I've never actually been to the I
just like peered in, and I don't think they like
serve food. They just like have like some drinks you
can buy or whatever. But okay, okay, maybe there are
some that are like a more an actual cafe.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah, but you you must have seen this when you
went to Japan, Derek. My friends went to Japan over
the summer, and they reported back, like it does not
end with cats. There's a cafe for every small animal.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I've seen that too, just like there's cafe.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
It's like, whoo, okay, really got a niche industry here.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah, I forget allergies.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I mean, animals do. Like snuggling an animal really does
make you feel good. And there's lots of studies on that.
I've been sick and I can't tell if I got
it from my family or I'm giving it to my family.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I don't know, but we all kind of tried to
stay away from each.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Other, and I was so like lonely and said that
I snuggled my dog because I can't give it to
my dog. I can't get anything from my dog. And
I was like, thank God for my dog. Yeah, because
I need snuggles right.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Now, all honey.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, So I get it. I understand why it's a
draw for people. It's but there's there's just a barrier
for me of like, I don't animals and.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Food not a place I like to mix.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah stuff, No, I think it's fair. Okay, coffee Mate
is back in the news. We remember we've had several
coffee Mate stories, not all good, some recalls.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
One a white lotus.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh yeah, coffee Mate Special Edition Pina Colada. Yeah, we've
got a new one. First of all, I wasn't aware
that this was a thing. They do this cold foam.
It looks like a can of whipped cream, but it's.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Creamer for your coffee.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
But it it's I mean literally looks like whipped cream.
Oh yes, and you put it on top and it
dissolves into your coffee and it's flavored. So it's like
a flavored cream, but like a dessert whip cream for
your coffee. The new so the existing flavors include Snickerdoodle,
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Red Velvet, Peppermint, Mocha, frosted gingerbread and pumpkin spice. There's
a new flavor any anyone care to guess?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
So you already mentioned pumpkin. Are we already getting into
like the holiday season?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, yep, yep, apple pie, cinnamon nutg.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
What'd you say? Cinnamon, nutmeg, cinnamon, coffee cake, cold foam creamer? Okay, unnecessary?
That's discussing zero sugar? What not? A dairy? Gluten free?
What is it? Bolesterol free? What the hell is this?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
It's just poison. It's just sweet poison. That sounds so disgusting.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
It's not sugar and it's not dairy. What the fuck
is it?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
No, truly, truly, I've.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Never been a fake creamer or person. I'm just gonna
suck it up and have the milk. Sometimes I go skim,
sometimes I go full fat, like.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
But I'm always in milk.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, yeah, this just sounds I'm sorry, this is not.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
It really feels like criminal, Like why even put that
on the market.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I just feel like we are, you.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Know, well, because people want I guess.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I mean, sure, if you put the if you put
the sweet thing out on the table, we will eat it.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
But yeah, yeah, but I've never even tasted it. Maybe
it's great, but to me, I just imagine it would
taste like chemicals.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yes, and really ruined the coffee. But I can reach
their own.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Okay, two more quick ones.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Someone, a CEO posited she can tell how successful some
one is based on their coffee order, and I'll tell
you it has nothing to do with the kind of
coffee they order.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
CEO Cody Sanchez made waves for hot takes she shared
in a podcast interview. A clip in the interview posted
by a TikTok account. She says she can tell how
successful someone is by how they order coffee.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Guess what she's looking at.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Okay, so it's not the order, but it's.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
It's it's not like the kind of coffee.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Yeah, how much have anything to do with like what
is put inside it? Like, it doesn't have anything to
do with like the additions to milk or Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
No, would you say, Lauren, the cost of it? No?
The size, Nope, I don't know what else there is?
Speaker 3 (41:52):
What?
Speaker 6 (41:53):
Yeah, the frequency with which they order at the time
of day.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
No, you're getting closer. Wow, it's not time of day.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, I guess I would have I guess that would
have been my next guest, like if it was like
how early in the morning.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
No, yeah, okay, she says, show me how long it
takes you to order at the counter, and I will
show you your bank account.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Oh ooh. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
She goes on to recount a recent cafe experience in
which a lady in front of her took four centuries
to place her order. She begins my positing that a
speedy coffee order is a reflection of efficient decision making
at large, then goes as far as to say that
folks who take a long time to order their coffee
are really comfortable inconveniencing somebody else around them, which means
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they have limited self awareness, maybe borderline narcissism. Love it,
I love I don't know this Gegi woman, I love
this hot ta okay.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
But a willingness to inconvenience others sounds like a very
successful person to me. It sounds like some bosses I've had.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yes, someone says, you could make the opposite case that
someone who deliberates and takes time is maybe going to
make a better decision than someone who just goes in quickly.
But I think what she's saying is like, how have
you not thought about this? How do you not know
what you want? Yeah, and if you're a busy CEO,
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if you're a busy person, you want you know that
your time is your money. Time is the most expensive
thing you own, and so you want to shave off
all the time you can and these menial kind of interactions.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I think I'm with this lady. I think I'm with
this lady.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I like I'm an efficient person.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Yeah, yeah, I think that makes sense to me. I
am also just like confused by the people who do
deliberate like do you just never get coffee? Do you
might know how you like coffee? Me?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I know, like what is it?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Were you distracted by the particular coffee shop? I don't
get it at all?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yeah, because I get like one thing, Yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Mean it's I'm gonna take the other side on this one.
Because so there's a trend that's been happening lately that
is very annoying to me, which is a lot of
food places will have TV for like the menus is
like on a TV that's like constantly I changed.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
My glasses to look at it.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
So first of all, yeah, you have to like get
at the right location, like away from it, but also
like it's constantly changing, Like I'm always like, oh, they
just showed something and then you have to like wait
for it to.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Like true even dunk. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yeah, so I don't like that.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Maybe maybe that is like making people take a longer
time because they just didn't get a good look at
the menu.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yeah, okay, sure, I feel like this woman is talking
about I feel like this one is talking about your
average Yeah. Yeah, technically taken over coffee shop, but.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Well, fair enough. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I have this complain with my husband, sorry John, When
we go to like order Chinese delivery, he wants to
look at the menu every time.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I'm like to always the same, No, we know what
we get. They're all the same.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
It doesn't matter what where you're going, they're all the same.
They have all the same things. Some people I think
just like, ah, let me examine the options, the bounty
of my options. Yeah yeah, even though I know he's
I know exactly what he's going to order every single time.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I think that's sort of a and he's a successful person.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
So maybe there's a personality trait of like, oh, let
me relax, examine all my options. Even though I know,
I'm pretty sure I know what I'm going to get.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I think that's a personality trait.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Yeah yeah, I mean that to me sounds like wanting
to be adventurous but ultimately being confined by what you ya.
I get overwhelmed by menus, so like I do kind
of go with what I or I'll like I'm a
big sharer, like.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
What are you having?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Let's have it together?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the best way to dine.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I love menus. Menus are like my favorite thing for food.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I love a menu and I refuse to look at
a menu before I go to a restaurant. It's the
most exciting heart of my dinner is when I open
that menu.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
You probably hate the QR code thing I hate when
a restaurant's like, I hate the hate that.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, and that's at a lot of hotels now they'll
just be like, order not from a person online with
this QR code and yeah yeah the last story, I
sent this to you already, but we did not share
our takes. We saved our takes, saved it because I
couldn't believe that this is real truly.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Maxwell House.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Maxwell House Coffee is rebranding for the first time in
one hundred and thirty three years and going by a
new name.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
For the time being. I'm not going to tell you
the name yet.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
It's rebrand This is a promotional rebranding. It's not forever
to meet the needs of today's consumer and remind fans
the brand is synonymous with great tasting, affordable coffee in
a time where value matters more now than ever, Americans
seek value in areas of their every day, including where
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they live, with nearly a third opting to rent versus
purchase a home.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
What's this have to do with coffee?
Speaker 1 (47:30):
The promotion offers a twenty month quote unquote lease, allowing
customers to load up on a year's worth of coffee
for forty dollars. The company says that it could save
some customers up to one thousand dollars over the course
of a year.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Great.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
So they're temporarily changing their name from Maxwell House two.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Maxwell Apartment.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
And just rolls off the tongus.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
It's just so silly.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
We're not aspirational anymore. We're like, sorry, you're kicked out
of your house.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
You gotta go to an apartment.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
This is a recession indicator.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
There you can own an apartment, and you can rent
an insanely expensive apartment, So it's not.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
You could also rent a house. Yes, yes, it's also silly.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Also, what's so funny about that name one hundred and
thirty three years?
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Is that what you said?
Speaker 2 (48:25):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
I did not equate house with a home at all.
It was just the name of the brand, the house
is to do.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
It was like pancakes. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
When when you segue to apartment, I was like, what
does this have anything to do with renting or owning
or home ownership.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
It's so insane.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
It's so insane.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
And you know, I have this other show, Battleground NYC
that's focusing on the New York City mayoral election, and
you guys are both New Yorkers, as you know, a
huge part of this election is rent and housing affordability.
And so I thought, Okay, maybe for like people in
big cities where rent and housing affordability and availability are
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like a huge, huge thing, maybe this rings true, like
right away.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
But for everyone else, you're like, what what now? Is
it an apartment? Now? I don't what does that have
to do with anything?
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Exactly, It's a total misstep. It's so silly.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
It's really silly. Listen.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
I don't I don't know how many people notice this
or saw this, but like it just doesn't click in
for me at all.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
It's also at all.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
Apartment is like a bigger word than house. Like I'm
just thinking about how this is gonna like look on
the on the logos, like it's not gonna look good.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
It's like it's like, no, right, I love the idea
of like a promotion that's helping you save money.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Great, that's definitely necessary right now, Like that alone would
yeah great.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
I think you could have done that with out changing
the name for not even a long time, but anyway.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
Or instead of Maxwell House, it could have been like
midwell House or something told keep house, but change the
max like lesser lesser well House.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
If we're trying to save.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
That's good, save house, right right. That's so silly, yeah, max,
save house. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
Maximum saving, yeah, maximum savings.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yeah, something there was there. There was something there they
didn't get. They didn't get it though, but there was
something there.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
There was an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, that's really I got for Coffee News a lot.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
I'm season two caffeinated.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yeah, it was a lot, right, Well, it's been a
while saving some stories up. Yeah, okay, well once again
before we go, send us your coffee hot tapes, your
controversial opinions, your your coffee news at Off the Cup,
Cup with two Peas at gmail dot com, and be
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Hey, everybody, welcome to season two premiere of Talking Coffee.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We're Talking to Coffee.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Finally joining me as always are Lauren and Derek.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hi, guys, Hi, I see hello.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Very exciting to be back.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I would say I missed you, but like I didn't
because we talked all the time.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
And yes, is really much of a hiatus, to be honest,
it was a break for the listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, they got the hiatus.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We've been recording new off the Cup episodes. This is
this is our first Talking Coffee and if people don't know,
we've added a talking politics.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh yeah, super excited.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I mean it's like a we're It's like a little
empire we've got over here. Yeah, it is, which suits
me really well. I've always wanted an empire, and.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
This empire runs on Duncan.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
This empire does run on Duncan.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I was gonna say it should have been a coffee empire,
but at least it's part in the fold.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
A coffee empire or a glasses empire is what I
should be in the business doing. Alas but as always,
and actually more so this season than last, we really
want to hear from you, so I want to talk
about things that matter to you, whether it's coffee related
or politics related, mental health related.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Now that we have free.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Pods, essentially, it's just so much more real estate where
we can talk about so many things.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So I really want to hear from our listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Please email us at off the Cup, that's cup with
two p's at.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Stuff you want us to talk about, controversial coffee opinions,
political takes.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Do more of this, SSE, do less of that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Se like, we want to hear about it, and we
want to, We want to, we want to engage with you.
This is a community. It's an empire first, a community second.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Okay, And they should share their own coffee news, like
do you are you? Do you want to break some
coffee news in your local market. Yes, this is the
place for that.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's happening. And today we're gonna start a little different.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I have coffee news, I have lots of coffee news,
but I wanted to start and I'm hoping to do
more of this with some coffee questions like a trivia no,
not like a quiz like because it's early, Yeah, it
(02:32):
is no like something to think.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
About to chew on this meaty I like it. Yeah,
it's meaty.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's a full bodied This is a.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Full bodied episode. I like that a lot. I like
that a lot. Okay, let's get right into it. The
first I was thinking, what could we brand this? M m,
it's not something to chew on, it's something to sip on. Okay,
to sip on this.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
If you're chewing something has gone horribly wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Right exactly exactly, Okay, sip on this.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What sitcoms do you think did the most for coffee
and coffee drinking? Mmm?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I mean Friends comes immediately because you know they have
I think Friends has.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
To be number one.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, in terms of like the park hang.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The hangout is so central, the big mugs became iconic.
I think it became sort of a status symbol.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Whatever the version.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Of like the nineties yuppie was. It included spending a
lot of time in a coffee shop, you know, with
your friends, and the economy was great. Apparently we had
all the time to just sit around at coffee shop.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I know when we did.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It really was reflective of life, good times. Yeah, yeah,
all around. So I agree with you, But there's some
others here that you might think give Friends a run
for its money.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
So I don't know if this qualifies as a sitcom,
but I would say Twin Peaks and Dale Cooper agent
Dale Cooper and his black coffee, like.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay, to have had an impact.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Like his whole thing was coffee, and like that morning
cup of coffee. It was so he made the ritual, Yes,
feel like you identified with the ritual. Whether you took
it black or not, it didn't matter. It was like
that first.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Sip of coffee, Like he literally will take a sip
and go.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Ah, yes, he's a coffee advertisement.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was a really good one. And that's a deep cut.
I like that.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think a lot about Twin Peaks. Okay, I have
some others.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, I didn't watch this, but I understand Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Oh I was gonna say, oh yeah, yeah for sure because.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Luke Steiner functions like a coffee shop, right, and there's
so much coffee central to their sort of like fast
talking yeah, the relationship.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Also, Yeah, Rory as a teenager drinks a lot of coffee,
like it's part of her personality.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
This wasn't taboo.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
I guess it's it's kind of a signifier of her
like maturity, like like like she's.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I can see that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, and I've like, like I said, I haven't watched
the show, but I'm very aware of what it is.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And we actually have a a.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
House where Gilmore Girls was set, So there's like a
Gilmore Girls convention. Oh, yes, you're in this little town.
The house with the rattlesnake. Yeah, that's supposed to be
like stars Hollow, Starllow Hollow whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I think also the coffee was like central to the
setting of like Cozy Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
New England.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, I have another one, and this I
watched the ship out of and I still watch a
lot of the show when I'm like trying to fall
asleep Fraser.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Mmmm yeah, Seattle.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Oh them.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
There's a lot of scenes where they are like kind
of fetishizing a complicated coffee order, or like where are
the beans from today?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Are they Ethiopian? You know, there's a lot of like
snobbery is captured by.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That show perfectly because they are the perfect vessels for
that kind of coffee snobbery.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Totally. So like that's another one.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think about two that popped up on a couple
lists like that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now I've got one more, which should be obvious to everyone.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Okay, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I'll give you a.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Minute, because we've we've made this reference several times on
talking coffee.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
You give us a hint. Besides that, besides that hints.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Okay, it's an ninety sitcom.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Oh oh oh oh Seinfeld, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So think about it. Monk's cafe central to you know,
these people's lives. It's a place where, like so much
observation took place over Kramer's coffee lawsuits. Yes, right, Cramer's
caffeine fixes. There are a couple of episodes where either
Kramer's hopped up on caffeine, Jerry's hopped up on caffeine.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
H it's the coffee shop, the coffee experience.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Again like a destination, and all those places are like
where all the references we have besides Dale Cooper, I guess,
are like, yeah, having coffee with others in person. You know,
obviously that's a setup for a sitcom. You need to
be in person, you need that. But but with Dale,
he's never alone sipping that coffee. He's having that moment
(07:58):
in front of a waitress or in front of of
his like, uh, local police.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Counterpart, so it's still a shared experience.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
But I like this.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I think in that in that setting, it's central to
his character and that's part of his character development and others.
It's a conceit, you know, used to get people in
one place to just sit there and do nothing really,
which was perfect for Seinfeld. You know, there's an episode
where he and Lane are talking like, do you want
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to go do something?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Okay? Do you want to go eat? Well, I'm not hungry. Okay,
do you want to just go sit and have coffee?
I want sure?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
You know, like, yeah, it gives them.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
An opportunity to sit and do nothing and just talk,
which would be boring otherwise, but coffee's there, so it
makes sense.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And Kreamer is a good like he feels.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
He seems like a character that represents a highly caffeinated
human being.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yes's embodied For some.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
He should have gone down to decaf probably.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, Well, I love that question, and that's so fun
our listeners to weigh in if we didn't mention something
that they thought of. And also, what like recent show? Yeah,
because I don't watch like a ton of recent TVs,
so that'd be good too.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Okay, Yeah, question two.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You say you love coffee, but where's the place you
don't ever want coffee or almost never have coffee.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's a riddle.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No, John's mom is also John's sister.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I have one to maybe get started.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I don't ever really want coffee at the beach now,
Anne dunk and bringing.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It to the beach is a.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Thing we do, but I don't love it because when
you're just out in the sun, it just melt so fast. Yeah,
it gets watery, it gets sand on it. Yeah, it's
just not I know, what's the thing people do in
New England.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's not a thing I like to do. I don't
want my coffee at the beach.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, no, that's a good call.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I do love coffee on long drives, but the amount
of time I will have to stop and pee exactly
after drinking the coffee is always like a little disappointed.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's a trade off. It's a trade off.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You really have to weigh how much you need and
it's usually a second cup for me, so it's like,
how much do I really need this?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Because again it's out of boredom.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We were like, I'm kind of bored, Like maybe we
should get a coffee so I can start like I
need a coffee.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I don't want to get something to eat. Yeah, yeah,
but I want something.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I want to consume something, or if I was about
to go in a long hike, also not a great
time for a coffee.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, yes, we heard that from Mark two plus.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
He started hiking and it was like coffee was no
longer conducive.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Do a long day in the woods.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
That's a fantast sick reference. Yep, what about you, Derek, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Think similar to hiking, maybe the gym, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I yes, I feel like people do that. Though, really
I feel like people do that. I mean back when
I went to the gym, it was the first thing
in the morning. I didn't bring one because I wanted
to savor that for later. Yeah that was four hours exactly.
But yeah, I definitely sat people with coffee at the gym.
That's a good one, terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't ever want coffee at the movies at the
movie theater.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Oh yeah, it's likely to do something else.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's a diet coke.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Yes, I did order a coffee at the Alamo Draft House,
and because you know, you can get food there.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, but you know, I actually agree with you.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
It wasn't the best You couldn't. It's hard to it's
hard to like savor coffee in the dark. It's like,
I don't know, there's something about it.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's a weird feeling.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And similarly, I don't want to get up and have
to leave the movie. And you know, I don't need
to be hopped up while watching a movie.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, I want to be kind of relaxed.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I will add to that. Airplanes, and we've talked about
this before, but only because they're bad.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, the coffee I would enjoy. I would enjoy coffee
on an airplane, except it's so bad.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Well, I also often feel so dehydrated if it's like
a long flight. I'm like, I need to just chug
some water here.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yes, although we did debunk the myth that coffee is dehydrating.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, I'm still I feel my body rejects that idea.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, you still need water, you want water, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Well, see, before we get to coffee news, can I
have some personal coffee news that I that I want.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
To share coffee news? Yeah, yeah, favorite news.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I'm talking to you all on my laptop, my work
laptop I also have, or I should say had a
personal laptop, and I took that laptop to a coffee
shop the other day and promptly spilled my coffee all
over my laptop.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Its sorry, and.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I well, I ran down, grabbed some napkins, like tried
to do the best salvage I could, and I was
like writing something and I'm just like typing away and
a couple of paragraphs later, that is.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Is dead.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
But you know, I feel like as somebody that that
uh embraced coffee later in life, I I this was
a good like milestone, like all right, I've had now
like spilled coffee on a piece of electric.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Ask because we've all done it.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You didn't learn it earlier, earlier in college, right in college,
have so many things around the electronic coffee.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
It's yeah dangerous anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So I'm sorry, that's right, person, I'm so sorry for
you rip that laptop, but you had to go through this.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
It was it was important, it was important, and I
didn't have any important files on it. It was all
thank thank you cloud, the cloud.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So yeah, okay, well that is that's that's terrible personal news,
but thank you for sharing it.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
You're welcome. I hope you can take me to a
better place. Now with this, let's go to a better place.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Okay, we're going to start with if you had to
guess how much is the world's most expensive cup of
coffee and where would you find it?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Dubai? Yep, got it?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Good?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, yow? Absolutely in American dollars, in US dollars.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I mean is it? Oh?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I was saying, it couldn't possibly be more than twenty dollars?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Guys on a hundred?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Is it tat in gold or instead of milk you
get just gold?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Nope, Nope, it's coffee and it's a cup of coffee.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Okay, yeah, so wait, it's more than one hundred.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Dubai's Roasters Specialty coffee house is selling a washed Panamanian
gesha for blank per cup, the world's most exclusive and expensive.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It's just a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with fifty.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Okay, it's six hundred and eighty dollars.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Oh my god, who's buying that? That's insane, That's truly insane.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I feel like Dubai. It's a it's a really, it's
an amusement park over their wealth.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just wealth.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And so if you're wealthy, you go and you're like, yeah,
I'm gonna go on this ride. Yeah, I'm gonna buy
the world's most expensive coffee.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Here, six hundred dollars cup of coffee and go on
this ride. Right.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Is that wild?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I would love to talk to anyone who actually drank
that apparently.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, it's just more expensive than the second most
expensive cup of coffee, which you can find in Taiwan
at Simple Kufa for six hundred and thirty five US
dollars and they sell one.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Awake.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Wow, I mean that's it.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
That's how that cafe Surprise survives. I know.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
That's completely insane.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Under time, yeah, in the opposite direction, in the opposite
direction economy.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Shit over here, guys.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So, thirty four New York City Starbucks locations are closing.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I'm sure you.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Saw one block away from my apartment the news.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh well I have and listen, they're shuddering stores all
around the country. And like I said, thirty four just
in New York City, that's a lot. I've got all
the addresses of all the stores.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I don't think that will mean anything to most people.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
But one of them means something to me because it's
my but ox with it.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Do we actually care about this though? Because Starbucks is
not the favorite, you know, it's not.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's bad news for all coffee drinkers, I see, okay,
with between the tariffs and then the hike of the
cost of beans, it's just not good news for coffee drinkers. Yeah,
my fantasy one hundred and eighty dollars cup of coffee.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
No for sure, No, yeah, you're ruining my fantasy that
When when I found out that the Starbucks is closing,
I just kind of assumed that some cooler coffee shop
was going to take its place, which that's what I hoped.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But maybe you're right. Maybe it's that's I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
One can absorb some of this economic pain. It would
be a giant chain like a Starbucks. And if they're
we're saying listen, we need to like lean lean down
and you know, adjust to this market.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I don't think it's great news for mom.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
And pops, you know, so true, it's really not great
for it. I mean I can't even imagine how many
employees they have just in New York.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
That really sucks.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah, Well, it's.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Gonna lay off nine hundred workers across the country.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Ooh, that's rough. Maybe they just like boom, this is there.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Listen, we can say like Starbucks was bloated, there were
Starbucks for too many places. Maybe yeah, yeah, Again, it's
not about Starbucks as much as it is about the
fate of our coffee. To that end, my next coffee
news story is not good. Costco's coffee will keep going
up in price. Oh, if you're new to Costco, you
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may go down the coffee aisle and find a three
pound tin of coffee for twenty three ninety nine and
think to yourself, that's a pretty solid deal. It amounts
to only eight dollars a pound. However, if you've been
buying coffee from Costco for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know how good it used to be pre pandemic.
That same tin was nine, nine, nine or thirty three pound.
That whoa huge that's a huge markup.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
The sad fact is that twenty three to ninety nine
is most likely the cheapest it will be for a while.
And it's not just Costco. And they say tariffs are
part of the equation. Coffee prices have left up twenty
point nine percent in the past year, and that price
increase started before the tariffs even took place, so it's
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not just the tariffs. The tariffs are insults on top
of injury.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
The prices were.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Already going up, so it's not great. It's not great.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
No, Is that been inflation, an inflation issue or even
something else?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, I mean part of the coffee bean issue, which
is very complicated. It's mostly about droughts in Vietnam and
Brazil and oh some other places. About it's climate change, weather, yeah,
that sort of thing which made it more expensive, and
then the economy and the resk, you know, inflation and
tariff's like no, it's a perfect storm of badness.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Oh no, I will say, my favorite New York City
cart guy on the corner of fifty fifth and sixth Avenue,
continues to be a dollar fifty for a small small
cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So maybe he's yeah, tarraf resistant those coffee carts. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Maybe, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I'm sure that it was a dollar like pre pandemic,
but you know, fifty cents is a pretty reasonable mark cup.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah yeah, uh, okay, moving on this, coffee expert tested
forty k cups. Here are the five pods i'd put
in my cureing. These are some good ones and some
interesting ones. No one will be surprised to know that
the mecafe Premium Roast pod is in the top five.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No one on this show, that's for sure. No one
on this show.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
He said, I didn't expect to like the mcafe Premium
Roast as much as I do. I should have seen
McCafe coming, despite other popular roasters disappointing in K cup form.
My father's also sung the praises of McDonald's coffee for
some time, although his interest lies mainly in this senior discount.
But yeah, we know that everyone loves McDonald's coffee, loves it,
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and we did our taste test.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I've seen these, I've had these for a time. The
Donut Shop, the original Donut Chop coffee.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a little a little
donut on the top.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, exactly. I don't know this one.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Kahawa eighteen ninety three Safari Blend.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's apparently a really good one.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Newman's Own Newman's Own Organic Special Blend makes the top five.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Newman's Own Can't Do yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Also, no, all my profit profits don't go to charity again.
And then finally, Caribou coffee. We know Caribou coffee your
daybreak blend a light roast. So if you've got any
of those five in your K cup collection, you're doing okay.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Something this person said in the beginning made.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Me feel like the CA cup is a lesser than
version of an original?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Do you you're a big cakeup drinker.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Lesser than like like, it's of course better to get
it fresh.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, Like, so you're saying said something about like the
CA cup version disappointed, you know, like acknowledging that the
CA cup version is a different taste than if you
brewed your own.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I think, unless you're doing fancy things to your coffee,
like you want foam, you want the like. To me,
it tastes the same. You know, I do dunk and
I do n espresso and espresso. I can't judge against anything.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It's great. The Duncan Cacus taste like Duncan.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Okay, it's not very different for me. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Well, and see I can vouch because when I was
at your house recording your interview with your.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Husband, you sent me home with one and it tasted great.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Right, so I don't maybe some are less than and listen,
I'm sure it's always better to have a professionally made
cup of coffee. But like also, it's not that difficult coffee.
We should not overcomplicate it. It should be just fine
in our homes, especially in this economy. I should be
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making it at home absolutely, Okay, listen to what I found.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
This was not a coffee news finding this.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I was just on Instagram and I came across a
coffee shop in Rhode Island called Breualogy Coffee and Lounge Mouthful. Okay,
it's in Smithfield, Smithfield, but there's a new location coming
to Cranston which will make my husband happy. They are
offering I don't know what this is for split cup
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iced coffees.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Hmmm, I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
So the milk is separate on.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
One side, cups in one mm hmmm, split down the middle,
so you could have one kind of coffee iced coffee
and another kind of iced coffee in the other half.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Why then the tops must be specialty too, right, Like
how do you drink they are?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They are completely split with two straw holes.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Two you wouldn't want to like lift it like that,
I would spill everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Probably not probably got some engineering issues. But I'm also
I'm just thinking, like, have I ever gone in and
been like, well, I really want hazelnut iced coffee but
also a pumpkin spice.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
No, no, you.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Would never say that because now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
No, but what would I want to?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Like, yeah, maybe you could do one decap and one
not I guess if you were in that era.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Sure transition, Sure I.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Want a little caffeine, but not all. But no, no,
I wouldn't do that. I think it's a fun novelty,
but like, I'm not really sure what it's for.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, maybe they have like really specialty coffee is iced coffees,
and so they Yeah, they found that that's what their
people wanted, and maybe whatever town in Rhode Island, Smithfield.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
It's yet another example of like, uh, our society today
just having too many choices. You know, people don't even
want to mess. They don't even want to choose the
coffee that they're going to drink that day.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, when I'm trying to watch a TV show, I'm like,
what show? What do I watch? And there's too many
huh oh.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Speaking of this is perfect. My husband was showing me
a feature on our TV where you can have four
shows playing in picture and picture but only one with
a sound.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
My brother does that with sports, and I'm like, this
is what crazy people do, psychotic completely.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
This is the this is the TV version of this coffee.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
It is it is.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
How could you concentrate on anything?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
What would be the point? I just know I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
No, like I want to overwhelm.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
He was like, he was like, look at this.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You could have Bravo here, CNN here, And I was like,
oh my god, get this off the screen right now.
This is giving me anxiety a headache.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I am no, especially especially with how you would enjoy
to watch Bravo. You wouldn't want the outside world interfering, right.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
It's not a.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Game where I'm just like like glance over at it.
I am sitting with like my face at the TV
in total silence, hanging on every word. I don't want
anyone in my room. This is something I do alone.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's amazing. I don't even eat while I'm watching Bravo.
It's too much distraction.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, how who would watch anything that way?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I don't get it.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I'm totally with you.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
I'm so annoyed by this sort of multiple screen thing
changing the way that we watch like movies, TV shows, Like.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
You should watch the thing.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I don't know if I totally agree that Bravo qualifies
as that, but like, you know, but like you know,
a story with a narrative, you want to pay attention,
you want to like really yeah, I know, but maybe sports,
you know, if two games are happening.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I try.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I've really tried to put my phone somewhere else when
I'm watching TV, even even like the random small thing
that I'm watching, because I'm like, what is the point.
And also like I've been trying to get off of
Instagram generally, and I think that has helped because I'm like,
oh well, I'm not even sure what I would look
at on my phone though, right, yeah, right, I know
what you mean.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, Okay, We've got one of these. A map reveals
top cities for coffee drinkers based on shops and spending.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
We've done a.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Lot of these, but this is a new one. It's
from Newsweek and the study was done by wallet hub. Okay, okay,
and it was released ahead of National Coffee Day, which
we just had and it looked at a hundred of
the most populated American cities across twelve key metrics including
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the number of coffee shops, coffee houses and cafes per capita,
average coffee prices, and households spending on coffee, and each
city received a weighted score out of a hundred. Read
So this sounds very sciencey to me. This is not
a mattress company doing one of these studies. We've had
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that before. So we've got our top ten care to
venture guesses.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I guess I would still say New York. It just
feels like there's a lot of coffee here.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It's not on the list. It's not in the top ten.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
I mean, it sounds like it's got to be Dubai
right after what we said earlier.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Is it global or not US?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's US?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Okay, we'll go with the old favorites. Then Seattle.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Seattle's number five. Los Angeles it's not on this list. Miami,
Miami is number four. New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
No, I'm just going off of the literally what we
have said in the past.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Austin, did you say what did you say?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Oh, Boston, No, Austin, That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Austin, Texas is on the list. You're missing some big ones.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
It's all getting muddled.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, don't overthink it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Okay, okay, okay, impossible.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I'm already number one. Oh okay, Portlandrancis.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Seems to be.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Oh yeah, San fran San Francisco's number seven. Yeah, okay,
you got those big ones. The rest are weird. Number
two is Orlando, but I don't know why. Number three
is Long Beach, California. Number six is Tampa, number nine
is Oakland, California, and number ten is Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What was number three?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Long Beach, California? What this is?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I don't or Orlando does not even count. But Portland,
I feel like, has topped all of the lists.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, Portland's a mainstay for all the reasons usually is
in there. Uh okay, I've got coffee crime Oho.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
This is now a true crime podcast.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Now listening to a true crime podcast.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
A Kona, Hawaii woman is facing federal fraud charges after
she allegedly sold mislabeled coffee.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
For over a decade.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Just this last week. In a twenty six page federal indictment,
Patricia Johnson was charged with twenty four counts, including sixteen
counts of wirefraud, five counts of illegal monetary transactions, and
three counts of obstruction of justice. According to prosecutors, between
twenty twelve and twenty twenty four, she earned millions in
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revenue by advertising, labeling, and selling one hundred percent ConA coffee.
The court documents said she ran ConA Coffee cafe, which
is sense closed, as well as an onlay store, conducted
sales on Amazon allegedly while she knew that the more
than one hundred and ninety four thousand pounds of coffee
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she had purchased from wholesalers in Seattle and Oakland originally.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Came from South America, not ConA.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Oh how'd she get found out?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
She falsely toil told employees and customers that the coffee
was grown on a local, private organic farm at high
elevation in the mountains. In ConA, federal agents seized over
eight hundred and thirty thousand dollars in cash after a
series of property searches, FBI agents arrested her. They're now
asking that she beheld at the Federal Detention Center in
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Honolulu without bail.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'm not sure how she was found out.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
This doesn't say I would love for it to be
like a coffee connoisseur, like deal king and being like, yeah,
this is absolutely not grown from this organic farm. I
would love for it to be an instant job, where
like someone inside snitched, someone saw the pos the purchase orders,
someone came across some evidence of the Seattle coffee that.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
She purchased or whatever and was like, oh no, who
do I tell I may become an informant. I want
this movie where she goes in like wired into the
the whistleblower.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, that's that goes in my mind.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Well, I mean that was really dumb on her.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It was really dumb of her.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, but I bet in Hawaii, the only US state
that can produce coffee, as we know, there is pressure
to to serve local, organic, especially coffee, Like, I bet
there's really high pressure to do that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And she thought, well, I'll do it but cheaper. Yeah,
I'll do it.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I'll game the system. Yeah, never gained the system for
too long. This is not really news.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
But you guys have heard of cat cafes.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
M there's one in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, oh so I thought this was only a thing
in like Japan.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
No, there's one in New Paltz, New York, where I
was the other weekend.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yes, yes, we did not go in. And Derek, you
have one in your neighborhood in Queens, I do. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
I mean it's a very Asian neighborhood and maybe so
there is a connection there. But yeah, it's lovely. There's
all kinds of signs on the window that's like, do
not tap the windows right hitting the windows.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Well, that's one thing that worries me about a cat cafe.
I was just reading about a cat cafe in California
in Grover Beach. This one features adult cats and kittens
for adoption, and so there's like a lot of cats
in there that she's trying to place in forever home.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So there's a cause to it. But here's my here's
my issue, here's my question, my concern.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
If you are allergic to cats, as I am very allergic,
you're and I don't feel like that's uncommon, that's pretty common.
You're really excluding a huge chunk of the population from
your bit, from your business, which I can.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Just choose not to go.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
But as a business owner, that feels a little limiting.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's just a choice you make.
Or maybe they're just like die hard cat fans. Well,
they clearly don't care. They don't care that I can't.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Go in there, which is fine, but I mean I
would die. I would die going into a cat cafe.
I would have to, like, you know it, hose down.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I'm sure the thought of it.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
My husband is also allergic, and just like the thought
like when we pass it, when we go to new policy,
he's always like, I'm gonna walk over it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Even like, yeah, it's that for some of us, it's
really that bad. Yeah, And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
There's also my question of like do I want pets
where I'm eating and drinking.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, I don't know. I see it all the time
with dogs.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
They're a little hair, they're little hair everywhere, Like, I
don't that's shed.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I mean, I know they're very sanitary animals.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I get that, but like there's a smell that comes
along with animals.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And I don't love the normalization of like bringing your
dog into the restaurant.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Yeah, yeah, I don't love that The cafe in my
neighborhood is not food forward. I think there is like
a vending machine. I've never actually been to the I
just like peered in, and I don't think they like
serve food. They just like have like some drinks you
can buy or whatever. But okay, okay, maybe there are
some that are like a more an actual cafe.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah, but you you must have seen this when you
went to Japan, Derek. My friends went to Japan over
the summer, and they reported back, like it does not
end with cats. There's a cafe for every small animal.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I've seen that too, just like there's cafe.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
It's like, whoo, okay, really got a niche industry here.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah, I forget allergies.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I mean, animals do. Like snuggling an animal really does
make you feel good. And there's lots of studies on that.
I've been sick and I can't tell if I got
it from my family or I'm giving it to my family.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I don't know, but we all kind of tried to
stay away from each.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Other, and I was so like lonely and said that
I snuggled my dog because I can't give it to
my dog. I can't get anything from my dog. And
I was like, thank God for my dog. Yeah, because
I need snuggles right.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Now, all honey.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, So I get it. I understand why it's a
draw for people. It's but there's there's just a barrier
for me of like, I don't animals and.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Food not a place I like to mix.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah stuff, No, I think it's fair. Okay, coffee Mate
is back in the news. We remember we've had several
coffee Mate stories, not all good, some recalls.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
One a white lotus.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh yeah, coffee Mate Special Edition Pina Colada. Yeah, we've
got a new one. First of all, I wasn't aware
that this was a thing. They do this cold foam.
It looks like a can of whipped cream, but it's.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Creamer for your coffee.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
But it it's I mean literally looks like whipped cream.
Oh yes, and you put it on top and it
dissolves into your coffee and it's flavored. So it's like
a flavored cream, but like a dessert whip cream for
your coffee. The new so the existing flavors include Snickerdoodle,
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Red Velvet, Peppermint, Mocha, frosted gingerbread and pumpkin spice. There's
a new flavor any anyone care to guess?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
So you already mentioned pumpkin. Are we already getting into
like the holiday season?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, yep, yep, apple pie, cinnamon nutg.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
What'd you say? Cinnamon, nutmeg, cinnamon, coffee cake, cold foam creamer? Okay, unnecessary?
That's discussing zero sugar? What not? A dairy? Gluten free?
What is it? Bolesterol free? What the hell is this?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
It's just poison. It's just sweet poison. That sounds so disgusting.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
It's not sugar and it's not dairy. What the fuck
is it?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
No, truly, truly, I've.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Never been a fake creamer or person. I'm just gonna
suck it up and have the milk. Sometimes I go skim,
sometimes I go full fat, like.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
But I'm always in milk.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, yeah, this just sounds I'm sorry, this is not.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
It really feels like criminal, Like why even put that
on the market.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I just feel like we are, you.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Know, well, because people want I guess.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I mean, sure, if you put the if you put
the sweet thing out on the table, we will eat it.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
But yeah, yeah, but I've never even tasted it. Maybe
it's great, but to me, I just imagine it would
taste like chemicals.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yes, and really ruined the coffee. But I can reach
their own.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Okay, two more quick ones.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Someone, a CEO posited she can tell how successful some
one is based on their coffee order, and I'll tell
you it has nothing to do with the kind of
coffee they order.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
CEO Cody Sanchez made waves for hot takes she shared
in a podcast interview. A clip in the interview posted
by a TikTok account. She says she can tell how
successful someone is by how they order coffee.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Guess what she's looking at.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Okay, so it's not the order, but it's.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
It's it's not like the kind of coffee.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Yeah, how much have anything to do with like what
is put inside it? Like, it doesn't have anything to
do with like the additions to milk or Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
No, would you say, Lauren, the cost of it? No?
The size, Nope, I don't know what else there is?
Speaker 3 (41:52):
What?
Speaker 6 (41:53):
Yeah, the frequency with which they order at the time
of day.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
No, you're getting closer. Wow, it's not time of day.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, I guess I would have I guess that would
have been my next guest, like if it was like
how early in the morning.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
No, yeah, okay, she says, show me how long it
takes you to order at the counter, and I will
show you your bank account.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Oh ooh. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
She goes on to recount a recent cafe experience in
which a lady in front of her took four centuries
to place her order. She begins my positing that a
speedy coffee order is a reflection of efficient decision making
at large, then goes as far as to say that
folks who take a long time to order their coffee
are really comfortable inconveniencing somebody else around them, which means
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they have limited self awareness, maybe borderline narcissism. Love it,
I love I don't know this Gegi woman, I love
this hot ta okay.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
But a willingness to inconvenience others sounds like a very
successful person to me. It sounds like some bosses I've had.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yes, someone says, you could make the opposite case that
someone who deliberates and takes time is maybe going to
make a better decision than someone who just goes in quickly.
But I think what she's saying is like, how have
you not thought about this? How do you not know
what you want? Yeah, and if you're a busy CEO,
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if you're a busy person, you want you know that
your time is your money. Time is the most expensive
thing you own, and so you want to shave off
all the time you can and these menial kind of interactions.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I think I'm with this lady. I think I'm with
this lady.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I like I'm an efficient person.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Yeah, yeah, I think that makes sense to me. I
am also just like confused by the people who do
deliberate like do you just never get coffee? Do you
might know how you like coffee? Me?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I know, like what is it?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Were you distracted by the particular coffee shop? I don't
get it at all?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yeah, because I get like one thing, Yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Mean it's I'm gonna take the other side on this one.
Because so there's a trend that's been happening lately that
is very annoying to me, which is a lot of
food places will have TV for like the menus is
like on a TV that's like constantly I changed.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
My glasses to look at it.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
So first of all, yeah, you have to like get
at the right location, like away from it, but also
like it's constantly changing, Like I'm always like, oh, they
just showed something and then you have to like wait
for it to.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Like true even dunk. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yeah, so I don't like that.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Maybe maybe that is like making people take a longer
time because they just didn't get a good look at
the menu.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yeah, okay, sure, I feel like this woman is talking
about I feel like this one is talking about your
average Yeah. Yeah, technically taken over coffee shop, but.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Well, fair enough. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I have this complain with my husband, sorry John, When
we go to like order Chinese delivery, he wants to
look at the menu every time.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I'm like to always the same, No, we know what
we get. They're all the same.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
It doesn't matter what where you're going, they're all the same.
They have all the same things. Some people I think
just like, ah, let me examine the options, the bounty
of my options. Yeah yeah, even though I know he's
I know exactly what he's going to order every single time.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I think that's sort of a and he's a successful person.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
So maybe there's a personality trait of like, oh, let
me relax, examine all my options. Even though I know,
I'm pretty sure I know what I'm going to get.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I think that's a personality trait.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Yeah yeah, I mean that to me sounds like wanting
to be adventurous but ultimately being confined by what you ya.
I get overwhelmed by menus, so like I do kind
of go with what I or I'll like I'm a
big sharer, like.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
What are you having?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Let's have it together?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the best way to dine.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I love menus. Menus are like my favorite thing for food.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I love a menu and I refuse to look at
a menu before I go to a restaurant. It's the
most exciting heart of my dinner is when I open
that menu.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
You probably hate the QR code thing I hate when
a restaurant's like, I hate the hate that.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, and that's at a lot of hotels now they'll
just be like, order not from a person online with
this QR code and yeah yeah the last story, I
sent this to you already, but we did not share
our takes. We saved our takes, saved it because I
couldn't believe that this is real truly.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Maxwell House.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Maxwell House Coffee is rebranding for the first time in
one hundred and thirty three years and going by a
new name.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
For the time being. I'm not going to tell you
the name yet.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
It's rebrand This is a promotional rebranding. It's not forever
to meet the needs of today's consumer and remind fans
the brand is synonymous with great tasting, affordable coffee in
a time where value matters more now than ever, Americans
seek value in areas of their every day, including where
(47:20):
they live, with nearly a third opting to rent versus
purchase a home.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
What's this have to do with coffee?
Speaker 1 (47:30):
The promotion offers a twenty month quote unquote lease, allowing
customers to load up on a year's worth of coffee
for forty dollars. The company says that it could save
some customers up to one thousand dollars over the course
of a year.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Great.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
So they're temporarily changing their name from Maxwell House two.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Maxwell Apartment.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
And just rolls off the tongus.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
It's just so silly.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
We're not aspirational anymore. We're like, sorry, you're kicked out
of your house.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
You gotta go to an apartment.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
This is a recession indicator.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
There you can own an apartment, and you can rent
an insanely expensive apartment, So it's not.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
You could also rent a house. Yes, yes, it's also silly.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Also, what's so funny about that name one hundred and
thirty three years?
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Is that what you said?
Speaker 2 (48:25):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
I did not equate house with a home at all.
It was just the name of the brand, the house
is to do.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
It was like pancakes. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:37):
When when you segue to apartment, I was like, what
does this have anything to do with renting or owning
or home ownership.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
It's so insane.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
It's so insane.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
And you know, I have this other show, Battleground NYC
that's focusing on the New York City mayoral election, and
you guys are both New Yorkers, as you know, a
huge part of this election is rent and housing affordability.
And so I thought, Okay, maybe for like people in
big cities where rent and housing affordability and availability are
(49:12):
like a huge, huge thing, maybe this rings true, like
right away.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
But for everyone else, you're like, what what now? Is
it an apartment? Now? I don't what does that have
to do with anything?
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Exactly, It's a total misstep. It's so silly.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
It's really silly. Listen.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
I don't I don't know how many people notice this
or saw this, but like it just doesn't click in
for me at all.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
It's also at all.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
Apartment is like a bigger word than house. Like I'm
just thinking about how this is gonna like look on
the on the logos, like it's not gonna look good.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
It's like it's like, no, right, I love the idea
of like a promotion that's helping you save money.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Great, that's definitely necessary right now, Like that alone would
yeah great.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
I think you could have done that with out changing
the name for not even a long time, but anyway.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
Or instead of Maxwell House, it could have been like
midwell House or something told keep house, but change the
max like lesser lesser well House.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
If we're trying to save.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
That's good, save house, right right. That's so silly, yeah, max,
save house. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
Maximum saving, yeah, maximum savings.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yeah, something there was there. There was something there they
didn't get. They didn't get it though, but there was
something there.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
There was an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, that's really I got for Coffee News a lot.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
I'm season two caffeinated.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yeah, it was a lot, right, Well, it's been a
while saving some stories up. Yeah, okay, well once again
before we go, send us your coffee hot tapes, your
controversial opinions, your your coffee news at Off the Cup,
Cup with two Peas at gmail dot com, and be
sure to tune in to our other shows, Off the
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Cup and Talking Politics.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
We'll see you next time.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
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Speaker 2 (51:14):
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