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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, it's time for talking coffee. It's been uh, it's
been this this month has been a year and a
lot of work, a lot of politics. Right, so it's
time we do some talking coffee. It's time to talk
about coffee. Absolutely, we need it as we do.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We need it. We deserve it, We've earned it.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We deserve an extra cup, we really do.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm joined as always by my producers Lauren and Derek.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
How are you guys?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hello, good, good, very happy to be here now.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm I've got my coffee here, my iced coffee in
my in my yoshi in my Yoshi tervice.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Oh excellent.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
That's from the Universal Studios or is that just from
your other from Universal Studios?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, California?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Great?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, love it.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So I have good I have good coffee questions, and
I have good coffee news. But before we get to
any of that, Lauren, do we have any coffee related mail?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
We do?
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Okay from one of our favorite and most dedicated listeners, Evah,
I love it. She was actually thinking about something you
mentioned when we were talking about Rhode Island offerings, the
half and half cups of coffee, and she was kind
of thinking about if there would be a flight available
at a brewery, and was kind of wondering if any
of us knew of any flight coffee flights kind of
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like you do a wine or.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Beer flight in Rhode Island, or just generally.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Just generally, she was thinking about the growing sober community
in our country and if there is a place you
could pare different coffees with food, for instance, a dark
growth with cherries and chocolate, or milk, chocolate and orange,
maybe it could be a fun dinner party dessert.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Listen, I am sure that exists.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I think we did a story about Starbucks restaurant in
Japan that offered coffee flights paired with food.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh yeah, I feel like we've done that.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But like a I am sure that exists, and it's
a great idea.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's a really fun idea.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Off the cup flight is the one that has Duncan
and Starbucks and McDonald's, because we've done.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
That flight, we did that fight, we did our own.
But I also want to say what I learned on
talking coffee is that if you have a dark roast,
it doesn't mean it's more caffeinated or anything like oh,
which I fully thought it.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Was we've dispelled a bunch of myths here on top Car.
We're doing the Lord's work and we are educating people.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Eva has more to share.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
She had some thoughts about the cat cafes, and she
says she thinks that they're more popular than we like
to assume. Not only do we have a cat cafe
in Old Town Alexandria called Mister Pernon, a play on
Mount Vernon, but there is one in Georgetown as well.
I believe they sell drinks in another room. Oh that's good.
(02:45):
Then the cats are in so but she can't be sure.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's really funny. I lived in Old Town Alexandria. Jack
was born in Old Town Alexandria, and I would start
when he was born. I would start every single morning
with like a three mile stroller walk which would which
would be punctuated midway through with a Starbucks in Old Town.
I'd sit down by the river and then I'd walk back.
(03:10):
Never noticed a cat cafe.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Maybe it's maybe it's new, Yeah, new to me.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
And lastly, we have a really lovely comment from Eva.
She says, I have to say that I think the
podcast and Subtec Ventures have been your best yet, particularly
the podcast episode with your husband, John. It was so raw,
honest in parentheses always and relatable. Thank you for creating
this space. It brings me so much joy.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, I love that for so many reasons, but I
got to be honest guy. I hear that a lot
about the John episode, that people just loved it because
it was so like vulnerable, and it stripped away all
the like artifice of what I do and celebrities and
(03:58):
all of that. It was just two people who happened
to be married having a conversation about life at our
age totally and what we've been through. And all the
credit to John for just being like showing up with
all the honesty and vulnerability and frankness and humor. It
just really made that episode so good. I totally agree
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it may be one of our best. He's a natural podcaster. Well,
speaking of I hope people don't mind I've invited him
on this episode of Talking Coffee.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
I'm back.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Well, like the kool Aid Man, he just burst into
the room. That was amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I had no idea. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
How does it feel to be such a fan favorite.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
I mean that bar is set so high. I have
a lot of pressure to deliver today.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Disagree. We've had a lot of.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Great guests like intimidating, let's see what I can do.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But isn't it great that like you just show up
as yourself and people really responded to it and loved
everything you had to say. And I know you have
heard from friends who you don't even speak to all
that often thanking you.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
It was amazing some of the folks that reached out
just said thanks for doing this and how much been
to them and to be open about their own sort
of challenges and feelings. It meant a lot to me
and it was really affirming of what you're doing and
just made me feel really good to be part of it.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Well, that's great and thank you Eva.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
We always love to hear from you, And if you'd
like to weigh in on anything coffee related, politics related,
maybe related to mental health, or one of our Off
the Cup interviews, you can write us at Off the Cup,
Cup with two p's at gmail dot com and maybe
we'll read your question or comment on an upcoming episode. Okay,
(05:53):
for this talking coffee, I do have coffee news, but
I'm trying to start these with coffee thought provoking questions
for us to sip on and get our juices flowing
as it were so last time we did, I think
I asked you, guys, what your most Oh my god,
is it snowing?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Is it snowing?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
It's John's snowing here yet. But good to see in
the snowing right now in the north and Connecticut.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
Based on my little journey outside today, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Wow, I don't even want to talk about what we
did outside this morning. But we had to go to
a school concert outside outside.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Don't get me started. It is snowing. Okay, diversion, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Last talking coffee, I asked you what the most memorable
sitcoms TV shows for coffee had been. We talked about Friends,
we talked about Frasier, we talked about Twin Peaks. Now
I want to ask you if you have a memorable
coffee scene from the movie or what you think the
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most memorable coffee scenes popularized by movies could be.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I've got it.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I've got a list. Literally nothing comes to mind.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So this is a great question. Yeah, it's provoking zero thoughts.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
I'm just trying to come up with the name of this.
It's a movie that I really love.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
This will be This will be John.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, let's do sure, got some people, John.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This will be good because John always almost gets it right.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So what he's trying to think of?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
An actor? An actors or a movie or a song title.
He always almost gets it right.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It'll be ninety right, so close.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Yeah, I can get the actor right in this one.
It's Vigil Mortenson, right, Vigel Morrison and Ed Harris. Those
are correct. But he's a former mobster on the run
in a small town.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Is that a history of violence?
Speaker 7 (08:01):
It's exactly what it is, Okay, history of violence. But
he is hiding out as a proprietor of like a diner,
and when the mobsters actually track him down and find him,
he's pouring hot coffee to customers at the breakfast counter,
and that caraffe becomes a very convenient weapon. And it's
(08:27):
very memorable for me.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, yes, I have one actually, okay to me reality bites. Yes,
the almost last scene where Ethan Hawk is in the diner,
I'm not even sure. I'm sure he's zipping coffee and
she comes in. Actually it's not towards the end, it's
when she asks about the do you even know the
definition of irony, and then he defines it perfectly and
(08:49):
she sort of when.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
The literal meaning is the opposite of the actual meeting.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yes, yes, and she's just come from that terrible job interview.
She's looking for some comfort and friend but they had
also just hooked up, and there's some weirdness and awkwardness.
You're right, coffee figures prominently in that incredible nineties movie.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Definitely as it does in your early twenties.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, when it's all you can afford, right, Like it's
all you can afford is coffee, and so that.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Becomes it's the only good thing in your life.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Breakfast, luncheond I feel enboldened to say the first movie
that came into my mind because John is here, So John,
thank you for being here. Gives me the courage to
say the movie that comes first to my mind, which is,
of course Star Wars Episode two, Attack of the Clones.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yes, I'm out, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Because randomly, in the middle of a Star Wars movie,
Youwan McGregor is you know as ovi Wan Kenobi is
on the hunt for this Jedi investigation thing, and he
stops at a nineteen fifty style diner on the planet
Coruscant amazing, And there's like there's like this droid that says,
you know, you want a cup of Jawa juice, and
(09:58):
I guess that's coffee, although in the Star Wars you
technically coffee is calf. So anyway, we could go down
a who rabbit hole about it. But that's that's that's
where my mind goes.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
These were the dirtiest combinations of words I've ever heard
put together. I love you for them, but I really
don't even understand a word you just said.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But John, you understand John watches those movies.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Yeah, I thought most of that one. I also thought
of maybe it's Role Models where Paul Rudd is in
a Starbucks with his girlfriend and he's gonna maybe he
had just gotten fired, something bad happened to him, and
he was like a total dick to the barista about
like venty versus large versus yeah, and you know whatever anything.
He's like, it's a large, I just want a large coffee.
(10:41):
It is like VENTI means twenty in Italian because it's
twenty ounces, you dick, or yeah, yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's a memory scene. It's on this list.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah that's good.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Oh good, Well that's that's where I learned.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It was made popular by the movie, but that has
become a meme and a TikTok clip that gets like
recycled around.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
All the time as like sort of a knock on
gen z. Yeah and millennials.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And it starts with the way she's talking and she's like, Hi,
can I help you? And he's like yeah, and then yeah,
they go through all the the sizes. He's like, actually, like,
none of that means means large or tall or small.
They all just mean large whatever it is. But it's yeah,
it's really funny. It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay, any other guess is here?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I want to hear your list. I want to hear
what you got.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
This is a good one, John, you will you and
I have watched this movie a lot. Where could you
find the World's Best cup of coffee?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Yes, congratulations, you did it elf, obviously, that's a great one.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's so cute.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yes, it's a little and.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
It's like, oh, it's just that moment like tells you
everything you need to know about his child like wonder
and the contrast between him and this like hardened cynical
city girl. He's just like, well, that's just a crap
of a crappy cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And he's like, it's the world's best.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
That really is a great scene. It's such a great movie.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So good.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay, some of these others are not really for me,
but I think they're for a lot of people. When
Jimmy is making coffee in pulp fiction, m Samuel L.
Jackson is making coffee, apparently this is a very important scene.
We've got coffee is just for closers in Glengarry Glenn Ross.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's important, right, That is always be closing apparently. I
haven't seen this movie.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think John probably has maybe Derek you have two four.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I think that's a superhero.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Is that a comic book person?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, Marl he's got the big hammer.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Ye oh oh.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
This is a Hemswe help ye, one of the Hemsworth's Amsworth.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It says in Thor even superheroes can't handle their coffee.
Thor has changed a good deal since his film debut
back in twenty eleven. When Thespian and Kenneth Broddack directed
the movie, it was short on laps compared to the
more comedic recent outings. There is still fun to be had,
especially in the scene where Thor tries coffee for the
first time. He calls it delicious and smashes the cup
on the floor to show his appreciation in true.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
As Guardian style.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Nice yeah, perfect, much to the shock of the rest of.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The diners trying to eat their breakfast. Did you see that, John?
Speaker 7 (13:43):
There's a few of them. I don't know which ones
I've seen, which ones I haven't. I've seen several of
the Thor iterations.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And lastly, my favorite, I think is in You've Got
Mail when they're communicating via email right and Tom Hanks's
character is fixedtolling the virtues of going to a Starbucks
and announcing your order with authority and it giving you
an entire sense of identity and self which ends with
tall d F gino. I love that scene, and coffee
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is a big part of that movie and Nice and
New York, which I love.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
It's a cozy it's a cozy food product, and I
think it fits well with a cozy movie like You've
Got Mail, like.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
A Nancy Myers movie. A Nancy Myers movie has to
have a coffee component.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Yeah, yeah, Now you're using words that I don't know
what they are.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well, I don't know what boys learned in school.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But Nancy Myers is the greatest cozy uh.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Director there is. Is it Nancy Myers or Nora Efron
that you're thinking of?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Nancy Myers is the one who makes the movies?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Okay, of is the writer?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay, so they're both both of you've got mail? Well,
don am I right?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh my god, she's not. She's not. She's not. She's not,
she's not.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It's of course, okay, you can you can edite. You
said it's very cozy. I say, yes, it's very cozy.
In a perfect Nora Ephron movie, you really need that.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But also in a Nancy Myers movie.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
It reminds me a lot of Nancy Meyer movie.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Thinking of you would.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Almost think that she was involved in that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You know, she should have been. That's the point I'm
trying to make.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Likely we have a fact checker.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
There's the Halloween movies.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Yeah, Michael, that's his sister.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Sorry, like Myers, I think Nancy Myers was the killer
the first one.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Okay, maybe you can keep that in.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
Maybe he do, just keep it.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Okay, I've got a quick quiz, and then we're going
to move on to coffee news.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Okay, the first question of the coffee quiz is what
is coffee?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Oh? That is so existential. I just got chilled.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
It is what is called to each of us?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
What is it? Waters?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Science?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm looking for science? What is it?
Speaker 6 (16:29):
It's beans that are ground and saturated in hot water?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
To change? You said it wrong? You already it's already incorrect.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Is it not a bean?
Speaker 7 (16:40):
I would say it's something like a beverage derived from
the cookow or is it what a cow plant or
something like that?
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
What is it a beverage? It's a way of life.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's a way of wh solid becomes a liquid, Derek.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's correct, But no, what is it? By the way,
it is a blizzard out right now. I just want
you to know it's blizzarding.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
I'm so jealous, amazing.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It is a fruit?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
What uh?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Bean? Coffee is actually a fruit.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
The beans and quotes grow on a bush and are
found in the center of a berry known as a
coffee cherry.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
What I was shocked.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
A lot of coffees are described with having like cherry flavors,
So that makes a little bit more sense.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, it's a fruit.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I am sick of big fruit trying to take everything tomatoes,
things that are not fruit.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
You know, totally, totally, we know what you are.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
So it's not even the drink. It's really the fruit
is the key, yes part of this.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes, the fruit.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
It's a fruite.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Okay, on to coffee news, the biggest most ridiculous story
of this week. Let me start by asking you, guys,
what's the longest you've ever waited in line to buy something?
Speaker 9 (18:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Sometimes people go at like four in the morning to
line up.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
To get the This is not something that I do
any baby or something.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
When I was a kid, I waited in line at
Barnes and Noble before the new Harry Potter books would
come out.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Okay, how long did you wait in line?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I mean I'd probably get there at like nine or ten,
So just like a few hours probably.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Is how long I waited for that.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I've also back then would wait in line for movie
tickets as well, back when we had to do that
in person.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, a few more hours than I would wait for anything.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Ye, Like anything I just can't get into, like the
viral sensation, Well, Starbucks has been forced to apologize over
bar rista bar arista brawls as fans stakeout stores or
hours and still can't get the new viral drink wear.
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Have you seen the new glass Starbucks barrista cold cup,
a twenty ounce vessel shaped like a Teddy bear wearing
a Starbucks green knitted beanie priced at thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
If you haven't seen it, this is what it is.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, it's doing really cute. It's super cute.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
But you guys, people are getting into actual fisticuffs.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Oh, that's crazy at a Starbucks.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
At Starbucks as he don't tell me that if Duncan
did not do the same thing, you would not be
standing in line waiting.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
For that bear.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I don't like this question, this question. It points to
some of my hypocrisy. It's almost standard.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
So this is just over the vessel. It's not a
special coffee.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
It's no correct.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Starbucks issued a public apology about the supply shortage, saying
the excitement for our merchandise succeeded even our biggest expectations,
despite shipping more Barrista cups to coffee houses than almost
any other merchandise item this holiday season, the berries to
cup and some other items sold out fast.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Wow. Some customer quotes.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
In this story say, I find it quite disappointing that
a big company like Starbucks would release a new collection
that clearly generates hype and inevitability frustration. I'm sorry, but
this time the disappointment has real consequences. There are plenty
of alternatives out there, and many of us feel let down.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
This is your time, Duncan.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
I mean the skeptic of me thinks, yeah, maybe they
didn't order quite as many as they thought they.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Needed on purpose.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Not to cast dispersions, I just have a lunch.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I have a hunchure correct.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I think I have a better chance at winning the
lottery than I do obtaining this cute bear cup another
equipped good. Some people staked out their local Starbucks for
hours to no avail.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Duncan should bring back the guy who made the donuts. Yeah,
in a that.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
See, I would wait whispering, Yeah, I would wait for weeks.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
To get me to take. His name is Fred. If
I could get a Fred coat, that would.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Be oh my god, oh my god. Truly we'd be
like Jack.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Just come to Duncan after school where we'll be.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Us.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
Yeah, get you now, though people do a task rabbit
person and wait in mind for them, which is so lame.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, you didn't tend to do it.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I would do that for the the Shakespeare in the
Park tickets, but I've never done it because who.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Can wait in line all day? It's obscene.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I did once. I'm really embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But I was in my twenties and I waited like
half a day for the Barney sample sale. Again, like
you must to earn your stripes as a New Yorker,
Like that's something you must do at least once.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
And I did and again in your twenties.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I didn't know better.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Okay, another big news item from the week. This was everywhere.
You know how we've talked about We've talked about caffeine
and decalf and you know, people will have some heart
issues needing to go decaf. And I was told, uh,
when I was a kid, because I have a heart,
I have an a regular heart beat, and I was
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told I should not have a lot of caffeine. Remember
I told you my doctor. So you can have a
cup of coffee a day. Coffee may protect against irregular
heart beats.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You guys, you guys.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
You guys, not the problem, the solution, of course.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
They're like the studies were held back, upside down.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
We were upside down and backwards. Turn the page around,
you guys.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh my god, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
One magical fruit.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Exactly. Listen.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
This says drinking caffeine of coffee is safe for people
with a fib okay h real fibrillation, and may help
protect against recurrence of that disorder, which is amazing news
for people with APHIB.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I don't have APHIB.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I have Mitro's valve prolapse, which is a different kind
of the reason my heart beats regularly is a different reason.
It's a flap that gets a flap on a valve. Okay,
so I don't think this does apply to me. And truly,
as you know, when I have too much caffeine, I
feel it. I feel the palpitations, I feel out of breath,
I feel dizzy.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
So that is real.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
But apparently, if you live with aphib and more than
ten million Americans do, and it does cause heart palpitations,
it can lead to heart failure and blood clots and stroke.
Doctors have long been trying to understand whether caffeine, which
can increase heart rate and blood pressure, triggered episodes that
felt like this, and in fact no, no, they can
(23:59):
mitigate against them. Wild You know, this just makes me
want to say to every so called study that says
X thing causes cancer, No, it definitely doesn't.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It probably saves.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
You from getting just get just give it a minute, like.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Ridiculous, Are we actually science?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
This is where we started with talking cup. There was
some sort of talking cup talking coffee. There was some
sort of study that reversed the idea of a previous study.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You know, yeah, it happens every day. Yeah, but great,
great news. If you've got a fib, keep drinking coffee.
Apparently for now.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Are there are there added benefits from a bear glass
or is it the same benefit as just a regular
old cup?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I think there are. Okay, we got some bad news.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Multiple coffee chains file for bankruptcy across the US.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
WHOA, so last time we talked about closures, this is
now worse than that.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
An actual it's worse.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So last time we talked about Starbucks closing a bunch
a bunch of locations. A big company like star Books
can absorb some of the high prices and tariffs that
you know are happening right now that are leading to
those high prices. Although as we've said, a lot of
this is just driven by climate issues and drought in
coffee producing places. But they've closed locations to avoid, you know,
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filing for bankruptcy or to.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Keep their company alive.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
These are coffee chains that are just going away, going away,
cannot withstand this economic environment.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yikes.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
So let's find out if some of your favorite coffees
are on here. The Blend Coffee and Cocktails. This is
in Florida and the company is known for its coffee flights.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Oh oh oh Eva.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
The Blend Coffee and Cocktails, Oh Middle District of Florida,
get it while you can and diverse menu just filed
for chapter eleven. It has eight locations across Florida. So
that's a bummer if you're in if you're in Florida.
Another one is too much Yeah. Another one is Kappa
Austin Coffee Shop. The Para company of Kappa Austin Coffee
(26:09):
filed for bankruptcy. This is in Texas and they have
a bunch of locations all over Texas.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
So if you're there, sad.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Now a couple have issued bankruptcy warnings. That's Compass Coffee.
That's in the mid Atlantic. They've got a ton of
locations across the mid Atlantic.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
John, you know Compass Coffee.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Yeah, that one's similar.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, yeah, because you lived in DC for a long time.
They've been warned that the chain could be forced to
file for bankruptcy if they don't get some things together.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So not great news.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
We've been covering the rocketing costs of coffee. They've gone
up like two hundred percent. I mean, it's wild, and
I'm sure you've noticed it. You've noticed it in your
coffee purchases.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh my gosh, yes, yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
I also feel like there was a pretty big expansion
in coffee shop ups and chains. And maybe this is
a little bit of a contraction and a correction. But
because because coffee was big, and then all of a
sudden you had all these brands and what had been
regional brands becoming national brands, et cetera. So economic times
and a little bit of overexpansion, maybe.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
There was some ridiculousness to having a dunk across from
a dunk, which happens all over Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yeah, shut your mouth. Okay, you're going this way on
the street.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
Sometimes you're going this way.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You need both options.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I understand, I understand.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
But we've all been somewhere where you can see two
Starbucks at once or two Dunks at once, and it's
a little like, come on new list by tasting table
(27:56):
of eight unique coffee creamer flavors to try in your
next morning cup.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Which of these would you try?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
None.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
First of all, let me just let me just say
at the outset, this is very rude. This is very
rude because we're all acting like coffee doesn't have a flavor,
and then it isn't the best flavor on.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
The planet earth. Why did?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Why are we just a suit like accepting people want
to flavor their coffee like another flavor. It is flavored,
and it is perfect. The flavor is perfect.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I mean, yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Did have a flavored coffee today. I'm sorry. I feel
personally attacked.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You did.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
You did? What was the flavor?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You did?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
French vanilla and you don't usually do that though, No,
it's it's there's.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Something about a hot French vanilla from Duncan that.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
On like the first cold day, which today was.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
Yeah, I just just made it worth it. My ice
is always plain, but that that hot French ranilla just
hits different.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Speaking of icet, what happened the other day when you
went to dunk?
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Well?
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I had what could possibly be described as talking coffee incident.
I went, I went to the local dunk, as I
do every morning.
Speaker 9 (29:18):
Yeah, and there is a two local police officers, a
man and a woman talking coffee inside the inside.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
The duncan perfect needed a microphone, and.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
The woman officer says, with an earshot of me, it's
ice coffee year round for me. And and as I'm
walking by, I say that's the right answer. They both
smile and I just walk out there.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's amazing.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
It felt very much like an episode of talking Coffee.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
He needed the sound effects of the plus I love that.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, here are the eight unique coffee creamer flavors that
none of us are going to try, but we'll see
International delight.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Southern butter Pecan stop.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
You know how you feel about butter that which rhymes
with butters a B word to me.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Don't say it, Derek is contemplating.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I'm butter pecan curious.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, Okay, I think I have one that John might
try International delight almond cherry macarone.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Oh god, almond cherry.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
That's a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
That's a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
I guess since it's a it's originally a cherry, maybe
that makes sense, but still may Does.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Macaron have a flavor flavor of whatever you think it is?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Words like almonds?
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Yeah, almond is what makes a macarone?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Almond, yes, my grandmother used to say almonds and pecans.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Like like geraldine almonds or what are those things called?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Short of ms? Why are you complex? He's almost he's
always almost right.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
But wait, would you an almond Charry macaron flavored coffee?
Speaker 8 (31:25):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (31:26):
That sounds like a good dessert coffee coffee mate.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Peanut butter and jelly, No, no, peanut butter and jelly children, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
You can make peanut butter and jelly maybe out.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Of peanut butter and jelly, but anything that is flavored
peanut butter and jelly is no.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Like yes, I think.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
If they cross branded it as uncrustable flavored, then it'd
be hard to say no. Then you're combining two of
my favorite things. A drinkable, a drinkable, uncrustable mind blowing
for fishing.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
We always grab those and crustables when we go fishing.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
I always cut the crust off my coffee beans before
I grind them.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Coffee Mate, caramel apple crisp. Derek's considering. Derek's into it.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, yeah, yep, yep uh. Birthday cake creamer.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
No, No, birthday cake is another one of those slates, Johnson.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
No.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
I mean they've been doing magical things with birthday cake
flavored They really have, Like the oreos, The birthday cake
flavored oreos are insane.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Is it just like extra extra vanilla?
Speaker 7 (32:42):
No, it's a certain sweetness. You can almost taste the sprinkles.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Is it like a no celtic thing? Does it make
you feel like a child eating a birthday cake? Is
that way eating?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
I just birthday cake.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
There.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Sometimes we'll just get a slice at the store and
take it home.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
It's one of the best things about being an adult.
You don't have to wait for someone's birthday to have
a slice of kid.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's so true.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I can just get my own cake anytime you want.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Khalif of Farms Organic almond lavender creamer.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Yes, okay, this is the one that I'm most positive
on Yes, I would have a one.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I'm the least positive.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Like, do I want to go in and drink a
cramp a crab tree an Evelyn store, I've got my bath.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I had a lavender latte from from a cafe once
and it was delicious.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
Wow, it does sound like perfume.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
The seventh is nut pods toasted marshmallow.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
This could work.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
That sounds great.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
This isn't too far aflung okay, And the last one
is coffee mate brown butter, chocolate chip cookie cold foam.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Again, too many things in the.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Choose a laine. Choose a laine.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Get out of here. Okay, here's a good here's some
good trivia. Anyone on the espresso martini train.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I enjoy an espresso martini every now I do.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
I've had, I've had them.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I enjoy them. Sometimes. It's good when you need a
little pick me up with a downer. Yeah, it's called
you know.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
It's that.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
There's something about the flavor though, that is good, Like
the alcohol gives it like some kind of like extra
bite or something.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
I don't know. I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, I agree, and I have had.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I like tequila, not vodka.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And I have had a tequila espresso martini, which is
two uppers.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
That would be intense.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Yeah, for the.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Audio listeners as he just made a hand gesture and
suddenly balloons came across the screen, because that's what happens
in our.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Technology side is also excited. Yeah, when you get a
double upper, you get balloons.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Is not from experience, but I've also heard that they're
great for the morning, right because you've got coffee, but
you also want some vodka.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Oh okay, so that's where we get into alcoholism, I think,
not personal experience.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
I've just heard it's.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Okay, that's not for me.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, So if you you've had an espresso martini, you
know what always comes garnished with three espresso beans?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Do you know why?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I just to tell you what you're drinking?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, just coffee in here. No, there's a reason.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
The three beans the top espresso martinis signify health, wealth,
and happiness.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Really made up?
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Yeah, I don't know, really, I don't know really, just
what I read.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Is Italian or something.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Sounds like something we would do the Italians.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Yeah, if you only get two, then you get like
you get mad at the bartender.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Right, yeah, my happiness, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Okay, you won't believe this. I have a little Phil's
Coffee news.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Oh boy, keep us in the loop.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I feel very attached to this coffee brand for some reason, like.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Following it's roller coaster ride.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah yeah, this is the one we had in Manhattan
Manhattan Beach before we went to Nintendo World with Jack.
And oddly Phil's has been coming up in coffee news
kind of regularly, so we're like following this brand new
East Bay Phil's Coffee location to offer drive through for
(36:53):
the first time. Phil's Coffee opened a new location and
pleasant in last week, marking the coffee chains first to
ever drive through location. Remember we talked about them getting
bought by like a hedge fund maybe right, right, yeah,
maybe this is part of the expansion drivers.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Okay, I mean I feel like it makes sense for
their locale.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
It does, Yeah, you got it. So Honestly, the.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Drive through line is longer than the walk in line.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
But I think in a sea of bad economic coffee news,
maybe FIALS is doing okayion, this is a bright spot. Yes,
had a great experience there, ok okay at five five
am uh Okay, this last one is for you, John. Okay,
(37:46):
this article says, I'm a former barista and I think Yetti's,
French press.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Pour over and coffee cups are the best.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Okay, let me just say we are big Yetti users
in this in this house, Oh John, I are both
holding up our Yetti's. These are one of I don't
know how many we own.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
There we go, there we go, John's double fisting.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know, I always have this.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
We have Yetti's of all sizes and colors and shapes.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
And do you always put coffee in them? Or do
you put water in them?
Speaker 8 (38:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
This is always filled with water. For me. We do
put coffee in them, iced coffee or hot coffee.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
We have Yetti coolers, we have Yetti buckets, We have
Yetti pictures, big Yetti fans. Apparently, two things you got
to get, according to this barista who now tests coffee
makers and tools for a living, the Rambler pour over,
which is just a thirty dollars coffee cup, but it's
(38:52):
shaped like kind of like a chalice, and apparently pouring
over into this is makes for a great cup of coffee.
And the thirty four ounce French press, which is one
hundred and ten dollars. They say, there is no denying
that Yeti's iteration of this is great. Beyond impressed with
(39:13):
Yeti's offering. It's ceramic lined inner chamber and double walled
vacuum insulation were among the excellent improvements over glass or
plastic French press models. If you're a French press lifer
or a skeptic, or somewhere in between, you will be
pleased with this one. This is from Food and Wine.
This isn't like Yetti dot com saying food Yeah, I
(39:36):
love that.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
So it's keeping it warm because that is the We're
in a French press mode right now and it gets
cold really fast and then we all know what happens
when you microwave it, so don't do that.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
I'm such a Yetti stand though I don't think I've
ever used a French press, nor do I know how
to use one, Because YETI makes it. That could get
me to want to try a French press for the
first time, because because of my brand loyalty.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I think I could get you to try Crack John.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's I think that the gateway drug that Yetti is
for you is like, if they make it, you'll try.
You'd try something.
Speaker 10 (40:10):
You would try tomatoes if it came out of Yetti
Tomato Maker Vegetables.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
So we do.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
We love Yetti, and I gotta be honest, it's not
just the brand or how it looks. It is so functional.
It works every time. If it's meant to keep it cold,
it does. If it's meant to keep it hot, it does.
Like it just works.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
It's great.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
This podcast is not even sponsored by Yetti, So I
just want to put that out there.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
No, that is that is authentic and genuine.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
If they wanted to sponsor, they can be in touch.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
All right.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Well that's all I've got for coffee news. You guys.
This was such a fun talking coffee. We did so much.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
We did so much and so nice to have John.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Yay, John, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Part of any podcast is John.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
I'm learning.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
All right. Thanks guys. We'll see you. We'll see you next.
Speaker 8 (41:06):
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