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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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my husband's friend. Turns out I had a good reason.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Ooh, he's hateable. He is hateable.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
This is really annoying me, so please excuse me if
I sound defensive. Also, yes, I have a short temper.
I'm working on it, oh boytop asking back off. I've
been married to my husband for over two years now.
After about six months ago, a new friend joined their
social circle. We'll call him Bob. By the way, this
comes from too harsh or what And if you want

(00:46):
to submit your own story, go to our slash Okay
story Time. I really didn't have much to do with
him because I have my own circle of friends and
hubby has his own circle of friends. But he does
have his friends over at our place for gaming or
watching football, and I offer them an adult soda and
some small talk. Look at the photos of their kids, etc.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
But that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Met Bob a few times after. He came over with
a group to hang out at a birthday thing of
Hubby's friends that had plus ones. Didn't really talk much
apart from hi, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
How goes it?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
And small talk about jobs or whatever, because I tend
to talk slash gravitate to Hubbies friends significant others, as
we're all in the same circumstance of being the plus one.
I don't even have most of Hubby's friends on my
Facebook rough and I'm pretty private, and usually Hubby shares
slash tag slash WhatsApp to me if they post something interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Bob, however, added me the day after we met, but
I haven't responded to the invite anyway. Four months ago,
one of their friends was having a milestone birthday on
Friday night and they'd book out the bars upstairs function area.
I was heading there right after work, and because the
area was unfamiliar to me and I'm a punctual, paranoid

(01:59):
plan for hurricane sort of person, I really overestimated how
long it would take to get there by public transports
and arrived about forty five minutes too early, so I
went and got myself a drink and settled into one
of the couches in the corner of the bar with
a book. I was just pretty empty at this point
and texted Hobby to let him know I was early.

(02:20):
I've never read a book at the bar, but kind
of could be the move.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
There's there are the like the speakeasy type bars where
it's like, you know, low lighting, like red walls, and then.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean I read books at coffee shops.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I guess I could.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Level up your game. Bro love Yeah, espresso martini, Espresso
martini while reading a book like.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
You'll find your wife.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
There've been That's what I was just thinking.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Okay, do you want to find your wife quick?

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Go to a club or somewhere where there's a lot
of people have a notebook and guess who's going to
be asking, Oh, what are you writing about? Go to
a club with a notebook? Yeah, club or like one
of the like people come around. They're just hanging out
and it's not like club vibes, but it's like you know,
barber mimes or something.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
No, I want to go to I want him to
go to like a m race or go to Jamison's
on a Friday night.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, and just start journaling. Yeah, what are you writing about?
I'm just do you want to be my wife?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
John?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Even better, what are you writing about? Writes note, and
then you exchange notes back and forth.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Smart smart, That's cute. Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Anyway, I got pretty engrossed in my book, and I
was only disturbed one other time when a guy was like,
great book, Can I get you a drink? But lost
interest once I.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Told him I was married. I mean, fair, fair, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Bob and two other of Hobby's friends arrived about five
minutes early, I think, but I didn't notice they'd arrived
because I was reading.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
And lost in the world is a good book, obviously.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Anyway, Bob comes up to me, I'm still oblivious and
really in my book and asks if you can get
me a drink. I didn't even look up, just made
a waving on with my hand and said, no, thanks,
I'm married. Get away, Bobby boy. Wrong person kept reading.
I know that was rude. I know that was rude,
but it really was an interesting book, so I wasn't

(04:11):
really paying attention to the reaction. I was really into
my book and didn't want to be disrupted.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Instead of saying, hey, it's me Bob, he goes, come on,
it's just one dwing, just one little dwing us. And
I was a bit irritated one for being interrupted in
two I said I was married and started saying dude.
I said I was mayor, and when I looked up

(04:36):
and it was Bob and Co, I was all, oh, hey,
I was in another world. Sorry about that, closed my
book and started making small talking stuff. Anyway, Bob and
friends decided to go get something from the bar too,
and Bob asked me again if I want anything, and
I said, no, thank you, I've had one already and
pointed to my empty glass. He goes, are you sure, Bob?

(04:57):
Take note, Nah, Bob, don't build here.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Bob, shut up. No you can't. Nice.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I told him I wanted to pace myself, as I
hadn't eaten and I'm a small woman and I get
tipsy easily, and he just said, shoat yourself, and I
was just whatever. Well Hebby arrived a short while later,
and after saying hi, et cetera, when did you get
something from the bar, So, of course he asked me
if I wanted anything. I just asked him for cranberry
juice and some fries, and he brought it back to me,

(05:25):
and then Bob pipes up sarcastically about how such a
good wife for only taking drinks from hubby, and even
Hubby and friends looked at him a bit weirdly, Bob, Bob,
get a job, Bob, what.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Are you doing? No talk to the hand.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Bob is building walls against all of his friendships right now.
It was a bit with the f but I just
laughed it off with something about collecting credit card points.
It was totally an awkward response, and the joke flopped miserably,
and someone else changed the topic because you could hear
crickets during the course of the night. Bob asked me

(06:02):
if I wanted a drink two more times, dude, Bob,
back off, back, I don't want to drink, off And
if I did want to drink, I would order one myself, dude,
because I got a credit card, I got a mouth,
I got two arms that can give the credit card
to the appropriate people and get a drink, a.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Brain to think and choose for myself.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I do not need you, Bob. I do not need you.
Bob can't catch a hint first time after that incident,
I had gotten one again, so I just held my
glass and then said no thank you. Another time, I
just didn't feel like another drink, so I said no,
thank you, I'm done for the night. And again he goes,
are you sure Bob's really concerned about you quenching your thirst?

(06:46):
Bob is a hydro homie. Bob is like girl. No,
a beautiful woman like you needs eight glasses of water
a day. When I said drink, I met water.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Bob. Are you sure you're not being whack? Bob's being whack.
That's what I have to Bob's a little whack oh question,
over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
To all of you. What's Bob trying to do here?
I don't think we want the answer to that question.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
He's trying to hydrate op so he can bob in.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
It lit Bob and himself, and I told him I
was good. And then he asked if I wanted an
adult soda juice again and I said no, etc. Then
he asked if I want to tear coffee and I
didn't because it was one am, and thanked her for
the offer, but no, thank you. And then he asked
if I wanted decaf coffee and I said no, thank
you again. Someone said Bob is trying to get Opie

(07:39):
drunk or is Bob trying to slip something into one
of those drinks?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Honestly, like this is this is weird behavior, such suspect behavior.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, Bob, I just talked that off to him being
overly solicitous and maybe the booze was making him generous.
He wasn't wasted with tipsy and I didn't know this
guy well. Since then, when we've met Bob at a
bar or a group thing, he always asked me if
I want to drink, and no, thank you is never sufficient.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I also end up having to say no.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I said I didn't want to drink really firmly, which
makes me look like a witch because he's always pushing.
He doesn't do that with the other significant other friend.
I was feeling uncomfortable en us to ask one of
the other girlies. One time when I got up to
shout the table drinks because I wanted to top up.
He actually got up and said no, I'll get it
and I'll finally buy.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
You a drink. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
He was a bit tipsy, so people laughed it off.
But I found it a bit what the f I
casually mentioned the hubby and he just laughed it off
to him being a really nice guy and a bit tipsy.
None of this is really bad, but I just have
a bad gut feeling. Also, I'm getting a bit annoyed
at Bob because he's not respecting my boundaries. And also
it's a bit off. I can't describe how it just

(08:53):
felt off and a bit creepy. A few weeks ago,
he came over with hobbies friends to our house and
he was going on about how cool I was for
letting Hobby have friends over, and I just pointed out
that the other of Hubby's friends have friends over too,
and their wives are happy with that. He just responded
that they whinge about it. Though with me, I don't
really care. I go out with my friends or lock

(09:14):
myself in a study and play computer games with my headset,
which is what I did today. Nice Anyway, I emerged
from the study to get myself an adult soda when
Bob wanders into the kitchen and starts small talk, wandering
Bob oh here he goes Bob Way, he told me

(09:35):
it was cool that I played computer games being a
woman at all.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Oh, yep, yep, that's Bob behavior. Bob behavior right there.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
What that f And I mentioned that a lot of
my girlfriends played too. At this point, if it was
another Hobby's friends, he'd joke about setting him up with
one of them or something. Then he asked why I
hadn't added him on Facebook, and I played dumb and
was like, oh, half check because I wanted to get
back to my game, and also, my guts have been

(10:04):
off about this guy, and I wasn't in the mood
for small talk. And then here is the punter. He says,
oh God, say say it, Say God, Bob, stop being
so creepy. He says, you know, if you were married,
I think we'd be great together. Ew Bob, ew ew.

(10:33):
It got me out of the blue. So I was
stunned quiet for a second, and then saw red and
I went off, there's that short fuse, but this has
been an extraordinary long fuse.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
But he's giving Bob so many chances. Yeah, he's like, oh,
you know, I'm might be a little snappy. He's like, no,
you mean too much of an angel.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Screwbob. I was, don't Screwbob, but just get him out
of there. I was so outraged and stuff, so I
started yelling, what the f what are you saying in
my own house with my husband right here? What heck
is wrong with you? You're disgusting? Who does that? That's
just so effed up. I can't even et cetera. And

(11:13):
he's got his hands up saying stuff, I'm just thing,
I don't mean anything about it, et cetera. Uh. It
just made me feel really cheap, like I'm some slee's
bag that he thought he could say that to you
under my own effing roof. Well, my husband is in
the next room to boot, Like, what kind of woman
does he take me for? It still makes me angry.
Hobby and friends hear this and come into the kitchen,

(11:34):
and I just yelled at Hobby like I'm not angry
at Hobby, but just pissed off in general. And I
told him what his friend said. Hobby turned to Bob
and a bit what the heck, but not angry, pissed off, irritated,
but not furious. I got angry that Hebby wasn't angry,
so I started yelling stuff like, yeah, you ask him
what the hell he's a piece of crap, How effing
disrespectful are you to Bob and obviously not helping the

(11:57):
situation at all, which admit was wrong, but I was
really shocked and angry. I think the blow up at
Bob all right, well here really pausing right here, There's
way more to this story.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
By the way, we're less than a third in. Oh,
there is.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Joints to squeeze, there's juice, But generally on this show,
we're like, don't yell. You know, emotional reactions you generally
don't don't produce the effect that you want long term?
Is any of this yelling like warranted be And the
reason I asked this is because she has put down

(12:34):
a hard line yes so many times and Bob has
crossed it each time. She's brought it up to her
husband multiple times and the husband's like, oh, like that's
just Bobby's being nice. Yes, Like I feel like at
this point you kind of have to like, essentially what
yelling is, it's saying like you have crossed so far

(12:57):
across the boundary that you need to be shocked to
get away. I feel I don't like yelling generally, but
like I'm like, I feel that in this case at
least like a little bit of yelling might be warranted.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I don't know. I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
One word safety safety. Yeah, safety safety.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
This is now this is now a crossing into we've
already got we've already blown past like you know, like
initial boundary crossing. Now we're getting into safety. It's like
op needs to make and and husband isn't isn't intervening
like I which it seems she pretty clearly communicated like hey,
this guy is like making me uncomfortable, and husband like, ah,

(13:39):
what else does she have? You know?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
And this is not the first offense.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yes, this is not the first thing she told him,
like over and over and over again. The husband is helping,
so and like also I will say, like the things
that she's yelling if it.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Was like uh uh oh go jump off a bridge
and that kind of thing that she's mostly saying, like
you need to stop.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
You're being creepy, like stop, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, Heleanna Bane says, yelling when you're not safe can
save you. It's a natural response to danger.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Again, generally, I don't think it's a good move to yell.
I feel in this case, because the boundary has been
crossed so many times, he's being creepy. I don't know
if like she's in danger necessarily, but I I feel
like this is just uh, I don't know, this is
just so bad. Yeah, yeah a zoo keeper, Sarah says

(14:34):
in her own house too, Like that, says Sam, you
yell so much of old ouch. That is true, but
not at people, I guess. I guess just that thousands
of people.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, only only huge groups. Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Nicole A says tasers balls. Ye oh, all right, well
we got we got bored of this story. So anyway,
two of my hobbies friends shoot Bob out, so he
left in her and I was still yelling stuff like yeah,
you piss off, you don't come back here, you f wit. Anyway,
Hobby pulled me into our bedroom after that, and I
explained what had happened, but I was still angry. So

(15:10):
my summation of the situation was, your slime ball friend
said that we'd be good together if you and I
weren't married. Not a mature way of communicating. But I
hadn't calmed down yet. I was expecting Hubby to be
more angry at this, but Hobby was all like, yeah,
that's pretty crap, thank you, And I pointed out that
he's said that while Hobby was in the next room,

(15:30):
and Hebby agreed that it was crap, thank you again,
and then wondered why he'd say that. I was very
taken aback by that. Who cares why? So I was annoyed.
I told Hobby it didn't matter why he said he's
never allowed in this house again. Hobby agreed, still not angry,
to be honest, his calm was starting to get on
my nerves. So I went for a walk and how
he went back to his friends.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh, I got a bad feeling about this conspiracy theory.
Talk to me.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Hobby wants a threesome with Bob.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
My yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Was sending Bob out of feelers or cook theory. Caitlin
Van camp And says the couk theory may be correct.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
That's crazy if that is true, Oh my god, husband, what.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Because it's already no, like not the cook, Bob.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Is not the move and like even him bringing bringing
it up is is already like yo, what's going on?
But if he had him do it in that way,
ab so lutely in sanity m hm.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Frank the pud says loyalty test. Oh barf, I think
I think that is less likely than Hobby a cook.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Dude. I hate all these options.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I hate all these option bro.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I want I want d.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Ye want want that Dolly, Well, I definitely don't.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Not bo oh boy.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, well we got more to this story. Well, okay,
we are only halfway through. All right, I'm buckled in
now this Now, this is a story.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yes, yes, where's the stairs?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, where's the stairs?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
All right?

Speaker 1 (17:21):
So I went for a walk and Hobby went back
to her friends. By the time I got back, Hubby's
friends had left, and Hubby told me that Bob had
just tried to say that Bob and I had a
lot in common and I just misinterpreted that. I told
him verbati him what Bob had said, and then Hobby
started asking me about whether Bob had hit on me
before I mentioned the drinks thing, which he dismissed, and

(17:43):
there wasn't really anything else apart from that because I
don't see him and didn't add him on any social
media anyway. Hubby said that I should have responded by
pointing out that if Hubby and I weren't married, Bob
and I wouldn't have met, which to me totally he
misses the point.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, it's like, oh, well, you know if you had remarried,
then you know you wouldn't have met, none of this
would ever happen.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
So I asked Hubby point blank why he wasn't more angry.
Was he okay with girls coming up and telling him
that if he wasn't married to me, they'd be good together.
Hobby finally gets pissed off at this point and asked
me what I'm implying. I told him that I felt
his friend had crossed a boundary, and he didn't seem

(18:29):
very upset and was defending his friend, making it seem
like I had led him on or misunderstood. Hobby told
me he didn't feel I'd let anyone on and he
wasn't upset because I was raging enough for both of them,
which you can imagine did not make me feel better.
And I was told calm down because it's over, and
I didn't take kindly to that either.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I've seen Hobby's friends twice since Bob has not been
there because I've made it clear that I won't be
there if he is. But it's now annoying that Hobby's
friends are making jokes about the incident, like can I
shout you a drink? Or will you hit me? Or
don't mention Bob or too harsh? Or what will go off?
Oh pie's use your name?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
At one of the events, I did rant to one
of my friends significant now there's about Bob and the
whole thing, and she agreed with me. Even Hobby is
amusedlash joking. I'm still furious, but at least Hobby will
intercede a bit if he's seeing me get annoyed. I
don't know why he's not more upset a Bob or
his friends for that matter, either. I don't know if
they've seen Bob. Since I would be furious if some
woman said that about me to my husband, I think

(19:30):
it's pretty obvious you don't hit on the spouse's of
your friends. Also, now I'm questioning if I'm being a huge, overreacting,
crazy witch. Even my girlfriends are saying that even though
Bob sounds sleazy, I should just put it behind me.
But I feel very disrespected and cheapened, and now my
temper has made me the butt of jokes. Apparently I'm
not even the one bubbly sworts that gets confused for flirting.

(19:51):
My husband is the friendly, chill one, and this whole
thing has just let me feeling some unhinged or an
over analytical killjoy. He made me feel a bit of
distance from my hobby and things are a bit tense.
But I'm still bothered by this. Thoughts, and we do
have an update.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yes, I've got some thoughts for you.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, give me some thoughts. Yeah, an update.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
We have an update coming. I mean, I mean I
will say I think like uh op on a p side,
she's like maybe looking for this like specific type of reaction.
It's like, uh like the the frustration and kind of
like flaring up in anger. Maybe someone doesn't have that
exact same type reaction. Yeah, but as long as they

(20:38):
understand the seriousness with which you take it, which that
is the thing that husband is completely missing. It's like
she's like, dude, like number one, just in general, you
should see that this is like you know, he's he's
encroaching in my boundaries. But even number two, like I
feel like my boundaries have been encroached upon it. He's

(20:59):
not like recognize he's not like if it doesn't feel
like he's like truly recognizing and she's like, hey, like,
I felt really uncomfortable with this guy, and.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, why would you not want to protect me?

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Ye, protect you and make your partner feel hard like, yeah,
like what can we do to make you feel like
feel good? Safe again?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
So I think if like the critiques that I have
for first of one, first of all, Bob absolute slame ball.
Bob is a slam ball. Confirmed. As for Op's reaction,
I think she could have yelled at Bob gotten husband
and just like, hey, your husband, Bob needs to go,

(21:37):
and then husband kicks him out. I don't think she
needed to continue yelling, although I understand why she did,
but I think, like one yell established boundary, gross, talk
to husband calmly, and then get him out. I also
think the other thing that I wouldn't do is, like
you said, expect the same reaction of like anger from

(22:00):
your husband because maybe he just doesn't experience anger like that.
But again, going back to what you said, it's the
lack of action that's the issue. But the hubby is
not has not really done everything so or done anything.
So if he doesn't have an emotional reaction and also
hasn't taken any action, then he's kind of useless. Yeah,

(22:21):
and it's on both prints. He doesn't any like like
I think you need one or the other, you know,
So that's kind of what i'm that's kind of what i'm.
I think I'm on the same page as you.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah. And also, to give Opie credit, she did say
like she's like, I yelled this thing, and now that
I've calmed down a bit, I was like, ah, Like
I didn't need to say that exactly whatever. I think
Opie has enough self awareness to be like, okay, I could.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Have even admits like, hey, I know what I you know,
the yelling was wrong, but I was so angry, and
like she realizes this is something that she struggles with.
But again, like Bob gave her plenty of reasons to
be angry. Oh ye oh yeah, oh yeah. Heleanna Bain
says it is gross, rude, as f and typical. But

(23:11):
we have an update. We have an update for you.
Oh gosh, guys, ready to get into it.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Let's dive in. So update.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
None of my hubby's friends or Hubby himself took Bob
very seriously. He hasn't been back to our place, but
Hubby has been seeing him socially elsewhere, and I stopped
going to places where I knew he would be there
or completely ignored him when he was there. The first time,
he ignored me as well, but then a few times
after he tried talking to me, never even acknowledge what
had happened, and I just walked away and talked to

(23:41):
someone else, cementing my reputation as a witch in the group.
One of my hubby's friends, even laughing, suggested that I
was avoiding Bob because I liked him, but then started
apologizing profusely after he saw a mad glint in my eye.
That comment stung, but I let it go. Bob did
text me a few times like nothing had happened. Random craft,
Oh look at this funny link. Hey, new video game

(24:02):
is at et cetera. But my overreacting self just blocked
his number, and I told Hubby I did this. Hubby
was amused, but just seemed relieved there was not going
to be another scene, although he didn't get why I
was against the guy.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
I mean, she explained it.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I just can't explain what a strong gut feeling I
had against this guy. I see why people thought I
was a witch. There's no evidence, really, but I just
found his attempts at being charming and friendly just to
put off.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Sometimes.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
When I first met him, it felt like I was
in another body watching the conversation with him, doing it
on autopilot. I felt that off about him. Anyway, Yesterday,
one of Hubby's friends calls him upset. So Hobby goes over,
and what do you know? The friend found messages on
his girlfriend's phone that Bob and her have been screwing

(24:50):
behind everyone's back. Just about a week before I wrote
that post, So about a month now.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Wait, so are they both are? Like Bob and his
girlfriend both running around?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So oh Pea's so, so Ope's husband's friend's girlfriend, Yes,
is screwing Bob.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
So Bob.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Got the bright idea, oh if I go to my
friend's wives and I can maybe get something.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
And he was right, and he was right, and he
tried to do it again.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
With Opie because one wasn't enough. Bro, he's like, he's like, oh,
I see it. I see the pattern. I'm pattern recognizing.
Don't Bob just get up?

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I feel sick like maybe if I had reacted more calmly,
maybe people have been willing to hear out why Bob
creaked me out and like spoken to him about it,
which might have distanced him instead of getting all riled
up and getting him support, which probably just encouraged him
when he was banging my hubby's friend's girlfriend. But also
girlfriend is for the streets too.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, what are you? What are you doing? Come on?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Anyway, Hubby called and told me what happened, so I
asked him if you need to stay the night at
a friend's house where the friend wanted to come here,
I took the advice i'd seen another threads and talked
friend through on the phone on how to take screenshots
and transferred them to his phone via Bluetooth, et cetera.
And then he didn't want to stay by himself, so
Hubby brought him home. It was really kind of sad

(26:17):
because as soon as the friend got here, he goes,
you'd be the only person to understand since you hate
Bob's guts, and I kind of joked and said it
was my guts that I hated Bob, and his kind
of watery smile just broke my heart. I had to
look at these texts and friends soon to be ex
girlfriend actually confronted him about the incident with me. He
basically reassured her that yeah, he did think I was

(26:39):
cool at the start, but was quick to reassure her
this was no longer the case, but was only persisting
with contacting me because I was effing snob and looked
down at everyone and she thought I was a witch,
to which hurt because I had always gotten along with her.
She'd even taken weekend trips shopping with sagers, et cetera.
Oh so they're talking about ope behind me.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's crazy, and it was she comforting him.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
She was comforting him and saw the text where they
were discussing what anyway. Oh but I think it may
have been the text between Bob and the ex girlfriend.
Ooh yeah, because the friend's girlfriend confronted Bob about the incident,
I believe. Or it's either it's a dangle, it's a yeah,
she could confront of Bob.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah yeah, good deserves conversations.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Anyway, the three of us sat there and had beers
and chewed out Bob and then friend was crying a
lot as he was chewing out his girlfriend. So I
left him with Hubby and made the guest bed. And
he was known for loving pad tie, so I sent
him some just in case he got hungry. At some point,
I thought it was another.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Where jiu jitsu.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I found this a bit later because I wasn't in
the kitchen. He ended up, and even if it wasn't mature,
I felt he deserved to sending his girlfriend that they
were through and she could f Bob all she wanted anyway.
An hour later, she and Bob both start calling him
and messaging him, but he blocked their numbers or didn't
answer or not sure. Then they must have started calling
his friends because Hebby's phone started going off. I'm not

(28:08):
sure what happened, as I was in the kitchen at
the time, but I did hear Hubby talking and then
a friend talking to whoever else. I did hear Hubby
get angry at one point, and he explained to be
and he explained to me later that someone had suggested,
after hearing that friend was at our house, that I
had turned Bob and girlfriend against friend because I didn't
like Bob. That also hurt because I would never do that.

(28:29):
I'm short tempered, not malicious, and I also get along
with that person. I think I'm going to keep my
distance from hubby's friends in the future. Obviously I'm not
as liked by them as I thought I was. Anyway,
both hubby and friend are sleeping, while I doubt friend
is doing much sleeping. But tomorrow morning they are going
to go to his place, box up whatever girlfriend left there.
They don't live together or anything, luckily, and tell her

(28:50):
to come pick it up. By the way, you should
pick up new episodes of this podcast by listening stories
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Speaker 3 (29:04):
But man, wow, man, I mean.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
It really really blew up in everyone's faces.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
And can I just say both husband and husband's friend
group really not liking.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Them, not liking them. The husband's not.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Really I guess he's helping the friend now, but it
didn't seem like husband uh he never like fully one
hundred percent. I feel like took Op seriously with all that,
and then the friends are like mocking her, and I'm like,
what are you doing? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, I don't I almost need to be having yeah yeah.
And I also like, I don't like how the husband
didn't really support Op in this. Yeah, don't like it,
but we do have a little bit more of the story.
Oh so, I'm not really sure how to help friends
through this. I've let help me do most of the
emotional stuff, but he is staying at our place for
a few days, and on top of what I normally
do for a guest, what can I do to make

(29:59):
things more comfortab even though I'm not going to help much,
just adult soda cans and runs ice cream. Wh should
Hobby take him away for the weekend. I would just
give Hobby in the friend's space. I think that's the
best thing you can do. But let us know what
you would do in the comments below. And I think
that's a wrap to the story. But we got one
more story for you. Come and ride up, and I'm

(30:21):
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We're gonna get back to these stories. But a quick
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Speaker 3 (30:28):
My fiance postponed our wedding because he wants to stay
with his cancer ridden ex wife.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I mean she only has a little bit left to live.
I mean she only has a little bit left to live.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Let her live, he said it, not me, so Max
and I dated for two years and have been engaged
for nine months, with the wedding date set for early January.
We have a healthy, honest relationship and I've never had
any reason to doubt him. By the way, well now,
by the way, this comes from Engaged throw away on
the r slash Okay story Times subreddits. So he and

(30:59):
care line where high school sweethearts was married young. You
don't like that. That's where we went wrong, you know, like,
is there a Caroline some history Caroline? You know? Do
you know Caroline? No way you'd know. I maybe don't
know anyway, Maybe don't know anyways. Deep cuts aside that
John is out of the loopond. They were married very young.

(31:20):
They were both twenty two, right out of college. They
divorced after two years, and Max told me that they
got married too quickly and didn't realize how different their
relationship would be in the real world. I eat when
they both were working full time jobs and struggling to
pay the rent. Uh. They split up on good terms
but didn't keep in touch. He remained in our home
city while she pursued a modeling career and began traveling extensively.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Oh she's hot.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
She I think she kinda you know, I hate to
say it dropped the anchor and kind of sword to
sits never seen. But three months ago, Caroline contacted Max
over Facebook out of the blue, saying she was in
town and wanted to meet for coffee. He agreed. Over coffee,
she told him that she had recently been diagnosed with

(32:06):
stage four breast cancer. Her odds of survival were low,
but she was determined to fight through it with surgery
and chemo. She said that all she wanted was for
Max to be by her side throughout the treatment. Wow.
So basically I'm trying to see the the time gap
between this. I'm thinking it's a it's a it's a

(32:28):
few years, but that is that is kind of crazy
that she that she came back and was just like, yo,
I know we were split, but I just want to
be with you for these last few wee that's a
wild frantic yad yourself in. Yeah, oh my god. How

(32:49):
long does she have left? She they don't say I have
an exact amount of time, but stage four breast cancer
odds of survival were very low, and she wanted to
Max to be her side by her side out the treatment. Wow.
So that's that's that's a lot for Max to Uh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I also, you know, not that that. I don't want
to believe everyone that says they have cancer.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I do. That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
We've had some stories where people lie about cancer to
get who in the pants if so happens again, dude,
I hey, you know it's it's a it's a get
out of jail free card.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Not like three in one day. That's crazy. Yeah. Caroline's
parents passed away shortly before she married Max. She has
no siblings, and the rest of the rest of her
family lives overseas. She describes Max as the closest thing
to family she has left. I absolutely sympathize with Caroline.
The next day, Max had her over to our apartment
and she was completely lovey, completely lovely, clearly trying very

(33:52):
hard to be optimistic, even in the face of her
life potentially ending before she turned thirty. Which now, for context,
they married at twenty two and then split up and
now they're thirty, so it's been around eight years. Wow.
I feel terrible for her and the situation she's in,
and I fully supported Max being there for her.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
How much do you support him being there for her?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
That's the Q. It's a big question. I mean, this
is complicated. This is who Her first surgery was. Later
that month, Max flew across the country. We live on
the East coast, she's on the west, and checked into
hotel a few minutes from her apartment. He's a writer,
so working from his laptop is no issue. We spoke
on the phone or on Skype almost every day for

(34:39):
the two weeks he was over there. Caroline had her
surgery at the beginning of June. Unfortunately, it was not
entirely successful, and her doctors moved on to the next step, chemo.
So to be clear, it's basically like, okay, so they're
still gonna try chemo next. Max came home after the
surgery to tell me this. He explained that Caroline's treatment
plan was set to begin in July an end in

(35:00):
late January. It would be an incredibly difficult time period
for her, and she wanted him with her at all times.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Oh, this is hard.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
This is hard. My gut right now is uh. You
kind of can't blame I guess Carolyn for she's about
to pass away.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like, like, dude, she has every right to shoot the shot, but.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
You can shoot the shot but then the expectation is
but not necessarily shoot the shot to the point where
his shot is shot.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Like I think, like just before that, like like shoot
the shot, don't expect Yeah, but like I don't even
I feel like it's still bad taste to But you're
you're a bad who cares?

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Do you want your honeymoon to be paid for?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Or no?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
We don't know if are you saying Caroline to pay Caroline.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I'll take care of you in your final moment, change
your will, change your life insurance.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
This is a financial opportunity.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Is an investment. Her visions getting blurry. I'll just hire
a double. It's not that bad, okay, dude?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
So oh man, And that's said. I wouldn't like this.
I think I don't think many people would.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, would you like it if a million dollars was involved?
I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Chat chatting? Everyone watching right now? Comment below? What is
your price? Name your price? I want your hubby spending
every moment with his uh passing away ex wife, ex.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Wife from eight years ago, eight.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Years ago, and you you don't know whether they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Hook up or not. And she could recover too, and
she could recover too. So with that said, name your price. COmON, blow,
I want to see it, but we're gonna keep going. Uh.
Kimberly Fine said, this is hard. Is what Opie's partner
and Caroline's guts are saying. Oh wow, oh geez, producer Riley,
I swear baby, it's a new cancer to you. Oh god,

(37:16):
they say, hold on, I gotta cook. Ease of life?
What is it? Quality of life? Quality life? Make it
go up. Yeah, you're going out, you might as well
enjoy it. Exactly exactly. That's where we're at.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
And you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you know, maybe
maybe by giving her some new life, she might live longer,
you know, a bunch of little little new potential baby
swimming around slily Toes by the way, says, for a
million dollars done, Yeah, I saw two hundred fifty k.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Keep putting your numbers in so free. Oh god, Opie says,
we can't afford to pay for a hotel until January,
so he moved into her apartment, sleeping on her sofa.
He's been there the past month, and we continue to skype,
though only a couple times a week. Now.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Oh wait, wait, he's already been there a month. So
she agreed. This is the chillis wife in history. Holy crap. Yeah,
and it's gone down in the amount that he's talking
to her.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
It's doing this.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Ooh, oh, he does not miss you. Oh that's mean
to say, but it's true. Aniecea Julius is a million
plus if she recovers I'm butting her back.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
When we spoke yesterday, Max gently told me that, based
on Caroline's condition, he wouldn't feel right leaving her so
close to the end of her treatment. He'd like for
us to postpone the wedding until February at the very least,
so he can stay with her until the eat.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Mint is oh no, he is no longer sure.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
He is no longer sure. Fabit k go in the honeymoon?
She might not make it.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
A dude, dude, queen procrastination? Who who saw this coming? Everyone?
Everyone saw this coming, this idea with her already living
with her. I mean, hey, I understand op was in
a rock and a hard place. How do you tell
your husband to not see his passing away ex wife?

(39:32):
And you do that by saying I don't think that
is a good idea. We'll say it. Say you say
that that's how you say it.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
And it's like okay, you know, you know, it's like
super reasonable, like hey, you know, I kind of want
to reconnect and whatever, like we'll visit and you know,
maybe chat moore and rebuild a friendship. It's a whole
other thing to sleep in her house for a month
and then postpone your wedding. We're getting to insane levels.

(39:59):
Insane levels. Sorry for you, Opie says. I'm so conflicted.
I hope, I hope. I feel awful for resenting Caroline
at all. She has cancer. It's okay, Ope, she's suffering immensely,
but the resentment is still there. Oh it's okay, he said,

(40:21):
everyone watching visual humor, okay, op Yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Back in the day, back when we were four letters.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
You're welcome audio listeners. It was a mug, but the
resentment is still there. I resent her for needing Max
constantly holding her hand as though she has absolutely no
friends of her own. I resent Max two for agreeing
to this situation. We won't be seeing each other in
person four months now, on top of our wedding being postponed.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I don't know if you have a husband, dude, after
this he can't even visit, Like.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yeah, visit, bro, because I'm on the boat. Now, this
is crazy too much.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
I will question really quick, really quick. There's a lot
more to the story, I know, but really quick. Let's
say you know you have a committed relationship on the
way to marriage and an X says, hey, I need
you to spend time with me before I pass away,
and I want every moment at what like, like what
to what level do you a acquiesce? Like do what
to what? Obviously moving there and spending months is way

(41:27):
too much, but I would like, like, what is what
is the right amount?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I think first is like uh uh, go go visit.
If she's staying in the hospital wherever the case is,
you know, get some get some coffee, reconnect. Yeah, and
that's okay. Right in this like that that beginning space,
that's where things can go left very quick. And she's like, hey,
I want to spend all the time together. That's where
You're like, and yes, you will feel like a dirt bag,

(41:52):
but we'll in reality, I'm saying, not that you are.
You're not a dirt bag. It might it might, it'll
probably op He's like, oh, but she has cancer, Like
I feel bad. Yes, you you might or it might
be hard to say, but it is so so, so
so reasonable for you to say, Hey, I'm not going
to leave my partner to like live with you, be

(42:13):
with you every sex.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yes, but I I can. I like, I you know,
I'd love to visit you. I love to maybe do
some phone calls. Uh Like yes, yeah, I think that's okay.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
There's a level where it's fine, the level but this
is so passed so far, the level where this is
okay and and you got if you God forbid, if
and if you find yourselves in this situation, it is okay. Op,
it is okay.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Like the fact that he kind of did this does
it seem like they had a lot of conversation about this.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
It sounds like he was just like, I'm gonna go.
I bet he still has feelings.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
One that slipped away. She's a model, traveling international.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, with cancer, with cancer, dude, She's she's just she's stacked.
I mean, not only is she a model that's super
interesting and traveling, but like he's probably already into her,
but now she's passing away, Like now there's even more
reason to see her.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Theory, you know how Opie was like, oh, they had
these differences, like splitting the rant and like all this stuff.
I think that's what the husband tells O P. Or
what what what? What? What what the spouse tells O P?
Because secretly spouse is a little bar Yeah, of course,
but doesn't want to admit it, just saying just saying yeah.

(43:31):
But she's like the McRib.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
It's true, it's true. And op Opie's hubby wants a
little little paste.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Oh he's he's he's licking his fingers like saying.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Also, uh, some of you are thinking I'm cooking up
a golden rule. You tell me, you tell me what
you think the golden rule is, because I feel like
there might be a rule cooking.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
But no, oh god, oh, Opie says, I don't know
what to do. I have no idea how I'm supposed
to feel right now. I'm just full of anger and guilt,
and I don't know how to explain it to anyone
else in my life. Also, I think some people may
be saying I have a jecko. I think I apologize.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Also, no, cancer is not sexy, and passing away isn't sexy.
I'm saying it just means she is a limited time offer.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I think he was interested regardless.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, I think it's just regardless. But now it's like,
oh wow, I only have like one time to get
with her and be with this person, and this is
my only this is my only chance. So so it's
just that that the timeline is is smushed.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, so sad like the make rib Yeah, come on,
I can't come on and not be the house for months.
That's crazy. But we haven't edits. Everyone seems to be
in agreement that that that this is completely in in appropriate. Yes,
if not an incredibly sad situation that Max isn't handling

(45:06):
very well. All speak to him either tonight or tomorrow
whenever we skype next, and tell him, in no uncertain
terms that I want him to come home. M there
we go, OPI you deserve that. You deserve that, Op.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
In the time of skype, he's got a weigh with
much more than that back in the day. Oh gosh,
you don't have all the technology of location. Yeah, wow, dude.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
He's my boy's getting away with a whole lot. But
from there we can decide what to do. Since I
don't want to leave Caroline high in dryitude. Oh, he's
too empathetic, OPI. Empathetic, but him living there until February
is out of the question, and we have some relevant
comments comment number one. He is intending on living with
his ex until February? Are you to do what? Just wait? No,

(45:53):
your resentment and discomfort is not wrong. I feel immense
I feel intense sympathy for her, for your partner. Astly
death is a terrifying, cold thing. But he's supposed to
be with you. It was not her right to ask
him to be with her as a husband. This is
a horror. Did she ask you? My fear is okay,

(46:14):
So February comes her chemo's done. Now she's weak and
miserable from chemo? Is he gonna leave her? Then? Feeling
like that great point? He should have not asked you
over skype. He should have been there in person. When
is the next time you are supposed to see him?
Which OPI applies. We're not in a bad place financially,
but we just can't afford a plane ticket every month,

(46:36):
then then fly every two minds. Yeah, he needs to
figure it out. Ah, I've been trying to save up
to buy a house after the wedding, not to mention
the cost of the wedding itself. So to answer your question,
end of January, early February. That's why I'm planning on
seeing him in person. According to his plan, Well.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
I feel like you're gonna save a lot of money
on the wedding. That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
So oh yeah, listen, listen that house it's going up.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
It's going up.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
We're about to get a mansion. Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah yeah, put that wedding money into a house for yourself.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Low key, super quick. I did hear this uh little
tidbit once and thought it was kind of fire. It
was basically like, hey, hey, uh uh, future future spouse,
do you want a crazy wedding or a crazy house? Hmm?
That's the question where.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Like in Bali, because the amount you're gonna spend on
a wedding you can probably get like a three bedroom.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
It's true. In midwestern Ohio, dude, in North Dakota, we
could get it popping, we could, that's what. And we've
got all our fans there.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Now, yeah, all our new radio fads.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, we'll be in North Dakota. But what are we
gonna do?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Like her jeep yes, you're listening your favorite activities.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
What are you talking about right now? This is your paradise?
Oh golly. Another comment to reply to that, so have
a golden rule? Oh yes, please?

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Just because your axe has an expiration date, does it
mean you can live with them?

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Ladies and gentlemen, The king with the golden crown has
done it again. History has been made here. But dude,
there hasn't been a new golden rule little while. Who
can remember? I can't. No.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
That seems more like a platinum Golden rules, sort of
like it's on the line.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
This is the this is the premium edition. This is
this is going to stick to your car to subscribe edition.
You're welcome America. Uh so. A comment to replies, so
just before the wedding, he expects to spend all this
time away from you and then just marry you without
getting any warming up time to get to get to
remember what it's like for you to be close to him.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
He's had a warming up time.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Oh god, he's way too warm. He's got some rug
burns with out him getting any cooling downtime. After having
lived like a husband with his other woman for most
of a year, this would be entirely unacceptable to me.
OPI I can't figure out a way to phrase this delicately,
So I hope you forgive me for my bluntness. If
this relationship ends, are you going to be financially Okay?

(49:17):
The emotional stuff is one thing. This has to be
incredibly difficult, and I admire your composure, But just in
terms of strictly physical if he says I'm old enough
to love her the way I wanted to when we
were younger and give up on marrying you, are you
going to be able to make it? I hope that
you're saving something aside for yourself, something not just in

(49:38):
a joint account. If there is one, which prepare I
mean point you gotta this far. You gotta prepare also
super quick. I did know a person who I don't
know if he officially got engaged, but he was basically like,
I am going to run around in these streets for
a year and then like literally day like day before wedding,

(50:01):
cut it, get married. So he was basically engaged. Yeah,
and he's like, I have one year. I'm gonna run
around and just sleep with as many people as possible
for this year, right up right before I get married
and then boom, flip the switch get married. What are

(50:22):
their partner thinking about they didn't get married? That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, I hate like, I hate that the that some
people's idea of a bachelor or a slash a bachelotte
party is last year of freedom.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I hate that bro a bachelotte party, pactor party lasted
a year.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, dude, oh god, that's crazy. The congrastination says he
can stay in the streets.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, honestly, so Opie applies to this. Trust me. I'm
feeling far from composed right now. But thank you. Uh.
If we're looking at the absolute worst case scenario, the
relationship ending, then the money that we've saved for the
wedding and the house could be split between us. So
that's probably a decent chunk right there. That's the only
money we've gotten a joint account right now. Otherwise we

(51:07):
keep individual accounts, so I should have enough to remain
on my feet if I end up on my own.
But I really hope it doesn't come to that. Great
and we have the big update. Baby, Yeah, are we ready, gentlemen?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I am ready. Quick prediction con prediction. Oh, it's all
gonna come crashing down. He's gonna confess his love to her,
and then OP he's gonna be like, all right, I'm out,
and then she's gonna pass away, and then OP he's
gonna come crawl or and then he's gonna come crawling
back to Op and said I always loved you more anyway.

(51:47):
And then Oh, he's gonna be like, no, I'm done
with you.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Just to be just to be contrarian, just to just
to just to throw some hope in there. I'm gonna say,
Max Is like I have been the the biggest idiots
on planet Earth through my actions. I apologized tremendously, and
it's going to take a lot of time and actual
work and action and maybe they get back together. You

(52:11):
have a lot of faith I am. I am employing
all the faith I've got in my body. All right,
let's see what happens. Let's find out updates. First off,
thank you all so much for your advice and words
of support. I'm sorry that I couldn't reply to every comment,
reply or personal message I got. But I woke up
to a locked post and over one hundred one read messages.
I promise I did read through all of them. Each

(52:32):
perspective was incredibly helpful and maybe look at this situation
in a completely different way from the botto of my heart.
Thank you. I spoke to Max this morning. Yes, all right,
some communication, communication, excited. I'm excited for this. And what
does opie communicate? They say? I told him that, as
terrible as they feel for Caroline, I didn't want him
living over there until February. We're getting there.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Hey, I like this, but the fact that Max was like,
I'm going to do this makes me still not have
faith in the relationship.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Max is for the past. Max is for the past.
Slant rat. He's been He's been maxed out.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Dude, he's been maxed out.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
We gotta we got to close out that person. Yeah,
minimize Max, minimalism, minimize Max studid. I'm a fire now.
I suggested that we brainstormed. I love that. I suggested
we brainstormed some sort of schedule that allowed him to
continue visiting her. He's been crazy. That's crazy. Well even

(53:31):
even even postponing our own honeymoon and using the honeymoon
money to fund his plane tickets. Yo, no, no, no, no,
wait wait wait oh we were doing good until we
were doing bad again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I love to eat, says backbone growth, but probably is
like thirty seconds behind where we are. Yeah, the backbone
grew an inch and receded four. Love to eat hit
that two x Oh Yeah, I'd love to eat. Let
us know what you think once you've heard this.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Babe, should have coun I could just visit my explorers.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Dude, you know what he's gonna do. He's gonna take
the honeymoon money. Guess who's gonna go on a honeymoon
with yep?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Stop babe, she only has it is It's always been
her dream for her bucket list to go to brawl
with me and get married over there.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Also, just back to Sam's original conspiracy theory. And I
hate to say it, guys, but we have this story
like a lot of row. Yeah, we haven't gotten the
true confirmed receipts that the illness is that is true.
This is the time of skype.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Dude, if I if I had Skype, show me her,
let me.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
See the tree. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, I don't want to see the IVY. I want
to see I want to see those m ris.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
I don't know. She's looking pretty healthy to me. Yeah,
with these stories, bro, it might need to do that. Yeah, golly.
Several commenters brought up her moving over over here for treatment,
so I mentioned that as well offering up our spare bedrooms.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Why don't you just offer up your bed at this point,
you know what, just move over?

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Does you know?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
How about you take the spare bedroom and you know what,
kep Caroline in the beds?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
You and your husband, our house and wedding money that's yours.
Just you know what? You know what? How about you
just say the I do.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Is to her and that Come on, you're just making
it more convenient.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, this is confusing.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
This is confusing and making it more convenient for the
husband to keep going.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
O my god, demonic says, noodle spine reactivated, the noodle
is there. I'm so bad.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I'm so bad. I emphasized that I didn't fault him
for wanting to help an old loved one what could
be her final days. I mean, I mean, oh, but
I couldn't help but feel marginalized, especially so close to
our wedding. Yeah yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
What is that feeling that you're feeling right now? Is
totally normal? Again, just because an X as an expiration
date doesn't mean they can walk all over your relationship. Yes,
you know, ask yourself, would this be okay if she
was not passing away?

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Boom?

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And then give a little bit of grace and that's
it and then stop and then stop and then stop
right there at the end, stop right there. This is
not okay. Please put up some boundaries to save your
relationship or don't. And I guess just let this husband
show what a what a noodle case?

Speaker 3 (56:38):
He is? Well, what is Max? This is? Says low
self esteem. M We need some self self love, needs
some self love.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
We serve self esteem. You deserve that. An inability to
put down boundaries is an inability to source and strengthen
one self esteem.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Usually Max, Max didn't speak very much. Class just listened
while I rambled on. When I couldn't think of anything
else to add, I asked him to just please say something,
ad do get over okay? So he told me the truth.

(57:19):
Caroline was never stage four, she was stage two. I'm
gonna give it. I'm gonna give it to you. I'm
gonna say you called.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
That, oh, stage two? What does that mean? That means
they have two more? They have to a lot, a lot,
a lot.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Can we can we can we look up what the
difference between my under Can we look up the survival
rate for stage two versus stage four breast cancer.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Dude, and we know what's coming next. This is only
the beginning of the avalanche. We're trickle truth, frickle truth thing.
JUDGEA said, you can recover from stage two. Stage two
breast cancer has yeah, eighty six percent survival rate versus

(58:10):
stage four, which has a thirty percent. Also also just
to look at that, that's a thirty percent after.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Five years survival rate even at stage four, so she
might be a lot for five years. Exactly thirty was
at stage four. She's at stage.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Two eighty six percent. Eighty six percent, Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
I'm gonna I'm gonna be giving them colling cancer because
I'm gonna rip them a new one.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Get it right on fire today, dude. Watching watching Riley
produce is like watching Picasso painted painting. That is, watching
Michael Jolo put a brush on a ceiling. Yeah, so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Or just like, get that little little little wiener on
the statue of David just right, you know.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Little it's not too scary. He's kissing it.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, not to it domidating like, oh, dude,
I got something on the stand.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Can somebody clip that I didn't say anything?

Speaker 1 (59:08):
He reassured me that the rest of the story is true.
Oh yeah, yeah, believe everything else.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Don't worry. It's cool. Great Caroline asking him to be
with her, the initial surgery being unsuccessful, her cancer, her
chemo treatment, plant, et cetera, et cetera. But apparently her
chances of survival are far greater than he led me
to believe. Max said he lied because he felt it
was the only way I could understand his need to

(59:36):
be with her. You are telling on yourself. What if
you just told the truth? Dude?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Again, we've already had I feel like a couple of
red flags already.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Oh yeah, this is another one.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Oh oh, look at the flags in front of you
and look at their color and listen.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Please. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Do you want to say I do to someone that's
been lying so much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Can't even trust their ideas? Not at all? Uh? He
thought that if her situation seemed less dire than literally
life or death, I wouldn't agree to him, essentially moving
across the country. Yeah, don't come. You are telling on
yourself because it's crazy. Yeah, you you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
You were like, well, I have to manipulate you. Are
you working to let me see my ex girlfriend?

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Oh? Oh you would, you would. We wouldn't let me
leave you my fiance to go live with the girl
that I married eight years ago and then we got divorced, dude,
And and way less my argument, way less painful to
just rip, rip off the band aid and be like, hey,
she wants me back, I'm leaving so she can she

(01:00:41):
she knows, Okay, this happened. I can now start the
healing process. She's been stuck in the most painful limbo
ever and she's and he's not even he's not even done.
It's not even done.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Like he's saying this as a way to like repair
the relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Yes, yes, if you're going to do that, the bare
minimum you could do is like actually communicate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Also, like and this is what you're saying, why not
just why not just go with Caroline?

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Yeah? You know you seem like a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
She has an eighty six percent chance or keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, and now she's a cancer survivor. Hopefully, dude, that
gives her more cloud. That gives her more cloud. Model
cancer survivor.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
She's gonna get more jobs, She's gonna get more rich.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
But yeah, this is the option.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Again, We're not sane. Sorry, We're not saying that this
is a better option than OP. To be clear, I'm
just just saying like there were just easier things than
just manipulating OP and putting yourself in this this limbo
like this, this is the worst option he wants to
You're gonna be a piece of crap. At least be
upfront about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Be smart, be smart.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
He wants to have his cake and eat it out too.
What he wants hashuldag eat out the rich.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Never let that die? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Yeah, OPI needs to grow background this. This guy is
tearle leave.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
He admitted to telling her that our wedding date had
postponed to next August. Oh my, a lie. From February
to August A lie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
He's lying on both sides, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Giving her the impression that him being away until February
would be no problem. He has also been the one
insisting on remaining by her side after her surgery. She
had given him permission to return home and also also
a mission.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Dude, you know what I think, tell me I think
Caroline isn't even that end Op's husband, but it's like
the closest thing that she has and like totally friend
zoned him. But Op's husband's just biting at the bit
trying to get in a relationship with her. But Caroline's
the one like, hey, like, you know, you should go
home to your wife.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
He's like, no, no, no, no, because I think she said
initially it was like she didn't really have any family members.
So that initial moment of like I feel alone, I
feel overwhelmed. Yeah, who am I going to go to?
But literally the closest thing I have? Fine, yeah, which
also where's your friends? But even beside the point, and

(01:03:09):
then he saw his opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Yeah yeah, And I think Caroline, though crazy to ask,
was maybe thought it was okay in her eyes. Yeah,
just reconnect because she's like, oh, this is just a friend.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Wait a minute, I read this messed up story. Basically
this girl, I think this is what Max is doing.
This girl was really close to her sister. She passed
away and and got with her boyfriend. Six months later,
and three years later, he did something really messed up,
thinking it would make her go back into her depressed
mood because he was the knight in silver armor or
shiny armor, and he liked that whenever she was kind

(01:03:43):
of a dance well in distress, always moody, and he
was like always looked her up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
He might like this.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Part of Caroline and wants to stay around it because
he's like, she's dependent on me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I can ye.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Savior complex, Yes, savior complex, dude, kend a kiss Kadechy,
says Samuel on it. I bet that's one hundred percent help.
She needed the help and now she's ready for him
to go. Hero complex says Jellybah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Yeah, I think it's a combination.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Just when you thought this guy couldn't be, couldn't be
doing it worse yet it's somehow. This is layers. This
is layers, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
I cannot. I am in thralled. This is a This
is a top tier story right here, top tier.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
She had given him permission to return home, saying that
it wouldn't be fair to pressure him into living with
her throughout her entire chemo treatment. As much as she
would have liked him there, he refused to leave. He
told her that I supported this decision fully. By the way,
if you want to support us fully, if you want
to listen to two thousand episodes.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Of Bangers just like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcast
your favorite podcast apps searched. Okay, story time, we got
two thousand apps for you. But gentlemen, we got a decent,
little little little chunk left here. Okay, shall we dive in.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Let's say it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Max swears that he's not in love with her still,
but I just can't believe that he lied to my face.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Before she visited our apartment back in May. He warned
me not to mention her being stage four as she
is still extremely sensitive about it, and I completely bought
into that line. Wow, I trusted him. What a crazy
thing to trust your fiance. Who would have thunk he
put his past with her over his future with me? Oh,

(01:05:28):
bar bar bar, Barbara bar bar. I will be spending
the next few months apartment hunting and canceling the wedding plans.
Get that big house. Oh he got there, Get that
big house. We got It was a long painful journey,
but we did arrive at our intended destination. Let's freaking go.
Thank you for all your kind words and edit. I'm

(01:05:48):
blown away by the outpouring of support I'm receiving. I
wish I could respond to each of you individually. Thank
you so much. This is a wonderful community and I
appreciate all of your thoughts. And there's some relevant comments too.
Uh OHP says if they end up back together, the
best of luck to them. For all of Max's faults,
he's technically been loyal to her throughout all of this.
Oh dude, Oh, he's too nice, too nice. I guess

(01:06:10):
I'm just past caring. My goal now is to be
out of this apartment before he comes home. I don't
ever want to see him again.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
I want to know what's going to happen to Max
and Caroline.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
There's no more updates. We do have some relevant comments, though,
hopefully hopefully get a little tidbit. Comment to number one,
Caroline seems like a nice human. I bet she will
see that he screwed his future over in hopes of
rekindling a past romance. I will bet good fake money
that she will tell him off eventually, and he will
come crawling back to you begging for forgiveness. No decent

(01:06:47):
person can keep a booty cleaner like that and have
a clean conscious. Comment to number two. I can't figure
out what his motive might be other than trying to
get back with his ex.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Comment number two, you're a regular home over there. We're
doing like gymnastics.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Man. Want to find out what this could be other
than that, what would it be? Comment number three. How
did he take the breakup? Op replies, He kept apologizing
to me, not very sincerely, though he sounded tired. And
when I said that I'd be moving out as soon
as possible, he replied, Yo, that's probably for the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:07:24):
we know that's what you think. We know that, we
know that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I do think cooking, honest, I do, I do think.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
I mean he's not mad because he's got something set
up with Caroline already.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
And was it the whole plan all along? Yeah, to
just keep pushing Ope into she until she was the
one that was like, I don't want this anymore, because
it's easier to push someone away than to say I
don't want to do this. Because he says, let's push
the wedding back so I can stay with her and
live with her for a few months. That is, I

(01:07:57):
am a shrimp jelly spine, and I just want to
be a horrible person you to force you to break
up with me. That is exactly what that is. Ready.
The one thing he asked for was my ring cycle.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Reduce, reuse and close the loop.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Reuse that ring on Caraline, and stop trading blood diamonds.
We're gonna take a golden rule about rings.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Uh, like, if their heirloom, you give it back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
If amicably, you give it back. If not, ures girl,
I don't think so. I think you give it back regardless.
If he you have to really really f over because
that's what do they steal money from you? Well, then
it's just like a tap, like he's gonna give it
a Caroline.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Huh, he's just gonna give the ring to Caroline.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I think, you know, let him do that, Let let
her rummage through your your your past relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
I don't. I don't think that's that's that's that's that's
a lot. That's petty.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
That's petty over self care, because that's just gonna give
he's going to be mad at you and then he's
going to try to go after you might see you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
I think that's that would suck. Oh yeah, I guess you.
Technically you can't do that because there's no marriage that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Just because says I legally, once it's given the fiance
owns the ring.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Is that true? Really? Is that true? Oh? It is
a gift? Is a is a is a ring a gift?

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
I'm in support of the idea that a ring is
a gift.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
It's a gift or is it a loan to you?
I'm gonna put this loan down your mind.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Is a ring a gift or alone? Because I've always
heard of it as you give the ring and then
they give it back to you if they don't want
to marry you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
The marriage is the contract when you actually get married.
That is like both both like legally and morally. The
thing that makes it not a gift anymore as.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Long as you're not alone anymore or a gift.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
That it's not a loan anymore, it becomes a gift.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
I agree, I agree. I think it becomes a gift
on marriage. It's a loan up until then, can we
pull it? I'm curious. Yeah, a lot of a lot
of people saying gift, Yeah, yeah, gift or loan? I
would love to know chat today.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
I mean, I've never really thought about this because usually
people are like, I hate you, and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Is a ring a gift or a loan? Let us know,
let us know, but we're gonna keep going here. So
the one thing he asked for was my ring, which
I agreed to mail to Caroline's address. I'm realizing that
he checked out of this relationship a while ago.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Wow, Hey, it's Sam. We're going to get back to
these stories. But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
Also, the ring was not an heirloom. I looked at that,
and she plans on going no contact with him. That's
in the comments. So I like skinned him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
And that was right, right right right right? M yeah,
so far the votes are coming in early, but Chat
is saying a gift aka if they if they split,
then she can keep the ring. Essentially, is the idea here?
Here we go? How about this? Howo this? Yeah? If you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
I think here, here's a rule. Chat, let me know
if you agree with this. If you propose to someone
and give the ring, and the person who proposes breaks
off the wedding by being unfaithful or just breaking off,

(01:11:23):
then maybe the person gets to keep it. But if
the other person breaks off the wedding by being unfaithful
or just because they give.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
It back, I guess like if we use that logic
on the story, it does apply where Caroline can keep
the ring because he was the one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
He's the one who broke it off and was like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
He essentially broke the contract of like, hey, we're gonna
get married and I'm not gonna live with my ex
wife for several months.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
That being said, I think the best thing, generally, like
in all cases, would just be to give it back
to avoid drama.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Yeah, I think that would be best.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
But yeah, Chat does Chat's eighty gift Team Gifts.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Yeah, team Gift. Interesting. I think I'm more team Loan
and I'm not gonna lie. I think I'm team Loan.
I'm team Loan. Who's five me? Yeah, go ahead, let
us know. But that's where I'm at right now. But
that's all we got for that story and this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Yeah, so if you love us, make sure to subscribe
We Love You, and see it tomorrow.

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