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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
I asked comfort from my husband, but he pointed out
a blemish instaid who asked you and trigger warning, they're
insinuations of miscarriage.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
We have been through a lot together. We met in.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
College nearly fifteen years ago. We're long distance for a
little while after graduation. Then we moved overseas together and
back again. We now own a house to have some pets,
are both gainfully employed and have a wonderful time together.
We're great together when times are good. We've been married
for seven years. By the way, this comes from Renee Elaine,
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Slash arky story of time Separate It.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
So, yeah, the thing about we're great together when times
are good is yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
We're not great. There's a way to describe a relationship.
The problem is that he is a really awful communicator.
While I am very open with how I'm feeling, I
wear my heart on my sleeve, while he could keep
what he's feeling inside indefinitely. This has always been hard
to reconcile. But our problems really started about two years
ago when we started talking about the subject of having children.
I had serious doubts about my capacity for motherhood, but

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he wanted to be a father. When I would talk
to him about my reservations or fears, he would usually
just shut down and say, let's not have kids. Then
he would never be on board for a deep discussion.
I decided my fears weren't enough to be a deal breaker,
so we went ahead and started trying. Over time, we
faced heartbreaking setbacks and trying to build our family. The
stress of first trying to conceive and then losing hope

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more than once was immense. I turned to him countless
times for support, and at countless times I came away
feeling like he was going through the motions but there
was nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Real behind them.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I know it can be hard for some to grasp
the pain of facing those losses, but as my partner,
I feel there was a serious lack of genuine sympathy.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
When I was struggling and in pain.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
He would hug me, hold me, do everything that would
make it look like he was by my side in this,
but never seemed to really listen when I talked about
it or converse about it with any depth.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
This year has been hard for me. It started out promising.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I was hopeful again and I was also up for
a promotion at work. Sadly, things didn't go the way
we hoped, and even though all signs pointed to the
promotion working out, the position was eliminated. After I had
gone through three rounds of interviews to get it, I
found out the position was eliminated officially yesterday. When he
got home from work. I asked him for a hug. Instead,
he started examining the skin around my mouth. He said,

(02:34):
do you have mouth herpies?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Or WHOA what? That's crazy? You have mouth herpies?

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Yeah? Who would I be getting those from you?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah? Do you know what that is? Yeah? It's like
he's basically accusing her of cheating.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Honestly, oh my god, I have been breaking out in
that area since the last loss. It's a hormonal trouble
spot for acne for me, and no matter what I do,
nothing stops it. Right afterwards, my hormones are just out
of balance for a couple of months. So not only
was I turned down for comfort after a long couple
of months trying to get this promotion and finding out
it wasn't going to happen, but he pointed out a

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flaw on my face that happens to be a lasting
side effect of another devastating moment in our journey. At first,
I was angry, demanded for an apology and gave him
the cold shoulder.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
After he gave me an insecere one.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Then I let go of the anger and just felt
so sad, just incredibly hopelessly sad.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I cried all night long.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
He finally came to me and said that he was
sorry in a sincere way, and we hugged for a
long time.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
But what's his problem? Because this has been going on
for a while of him just being rude and like bitter.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Kind of sounds like he's just like this. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
My question for up really quick is is this a
switch up from how he's been or has he always
been like this?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Because if he's always been like this, this is not
someone that you want to have kids with, let alone
a relationship with exactly.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
But I couldn't talk to him.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
I just couldn't put myself in the pace of telling
him what I was going through and not really knowing
he was there for me. After he left for work
this morning, he called me and said he realizes that
he needs to work on his communication and he's going
to try harder. He also said he wants to take
a trip for our fifteen year dating aniversty You're.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Together for fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, which is something I have been talking about for
almost a year now, but that he never seemed interested
until now. I'm left feeling like this is all just
too little, too late. I suggested marriage counseling about a
year ago when I felt a major disconnect between us
after our first two setbacks. He said he would go,
but I never followed up and looked for a counselor.
Now I feel like maybe it's just too late. I

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feel like my trust in him is shattered. Is this
something that we can fix in counseling? Will his communication
ever improve? Can I get over these feelings of bitterness?
And there are some relevant comments, but what do we
think to all that.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
I honestly, I don't think so. I think that you've
tried to go to therapy. Yeah, well, wasn't receptive, right,
He's been insulting you, He's been emotionally immature. He tells
you that he going to change, right, I haven't seen
any of that change.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, Yeah, I think you know in general, sure, Yeah,
we don't really know him. I guess it's possible for
things to change, but you definitely have to look out
for that. And I think if he's telling you this stuff,
you can't just blindly trust that. You can maybe accept
it for the moment, but be like okay, and then
just keep an eye out for the change.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Don't let him just tell you that he's changing. You
have to see it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
And I also think, like, in those fifteen years of dating,
how much of this has been this type of behavior? Yeah,
and how much of it was good?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Does a big shift?

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Maybe he's going through something that you need to talk about,
see if he's depressed or whatever.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, maybe he isn't good at talking about his feelings.
And maybe this whole thing with your troubles of getting pregnant,
maybe that's really affecting. Yeah, and he's just really not
knowing how to deal with it, if it's been a
switch up, or maybe it's.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
A sign that you shouldn't have kids with him. Yeah,
because you even before you go I started trying. We're
doubtful of that he would be a good parent.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, but there are some relevant comments. Oh, he says,
I called him and told him about the promotion not
working out earlier in the day before he came home.
He also knows that my hormones are causing my blemishes.
I don't know why he chose to be so callous
while knowing all of this information. I'm not usually sensitive
about remarks like that, but I think under the circumstances,
it was unfair, and a downvoted commentary says, I'm not

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sure he really chose to be so callous.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Maybe you disagree.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
But a lot of times, if I'm very stressed out
about my work or whatever, and I know my wife
is stressed out about her job or family or whatever,
then I subconsciously realize that I'm not mentally prepared to
truly listen and lend a sympathetic ear, and find myself
avoiding or squirming out of serious conversations. I've tried to
get better and to simply tell her when I don't
have the emotional energy to be her support at the moment.

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But sometimes I find myself simply shutting down and changing
the subject. I think you are upset because he wasn't
there to give you what you needed. But I think
you may be overlooking how emotionally exhausting it can be
to be a constant life for a partner, especially if
you have both been going through some rough times career wise,
family wise, et cetera. My point isn't to try to
make excuses for him. I'm just explaining that if I

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put myself in his shoes here, I can see making
some comment like that as sort of a knee jerk
defense mechanism if I wasn't in a mental stake capable
of empathy. I don't think he was being intentionally callous.
I think he was just not able to provide any
empathy at the moment and did a poor job of
communicating that. I think questioning your marriage over this is
pretty rash.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I would say about that too. I disagree with what
it's not rash. Sheby said, this has been going on
for a while. Yeah, because it's not just that he's.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Like in a bad mood sometimes, or it is like
a little you know, just in his fields or distant
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
It's that he, you.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Know, consistently has shown himself to be rude, uncaring, unable
to have an emotional connection, emotional anything, maturity.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
It doesn't seem like he's actually there for you, and
you know that, like you're telling us that. Yeah, Opie
says to that comment. After my first loss, he scoffed
when I suggested a vacation around the time of the
do date to ease the pain and told me I
shouldn't turn it into a morbid anniversary.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
This was about a week after the loss.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
When I told him I needed to distance myself for
my pregnant friend after she showed me no support. He
told me I should be there for her and told
me to put myself in her shoes. For some reason,
he denied the second loss was even a real pregnancy
for months. It took reminding him of the tests we
took together and that I actually passed the tissue to
get him to finally stop denying it, although I don't

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feel he's ever genuinely accepted it. Do these fit into
what you're describing as well, and there is an update,
but yeah, man, it just the fact that he's like
saying that you should put yourself in your pregnant friend's
shoes when like he's not putting himself in your shoes.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
And again, like to give him.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
The benefit of the doubt, if this hasn't been how
he always is, maybe it is just that these are
really hard on him. If he was like really denying
the last one, you know, maybe he's just really having
a hard time with that.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
But it's not fair to you to be treated like this. Yeah,
while he's doing that.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
I also think just like if you think that this
marriage is capable of being worked on, then I think
in the meantime you cannot be actively pursuing having a child.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Yeah, like I think you would have to put full
force into fixing the marriage and put the baby on
the back burner.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, and he should go into therapy before that, because
if this communication or lack thereof is a problem now
in these hard times, there's gonna be way more hard
times when you're having a kid, So you're gonna need
to figure out how to communicate or he's going to
need to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
First, before you get into that.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, but we do have an update, so five months later.
We got into counseling not too long after that post
and have been continuing every week since.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
We just had a session yesterday. Our counselor is wonderful.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
She really understands the situation and has identified the struggle
my husband faces when confronted with an uncomfortable topic like
our losses, stress at work, decision to have children or not,
and more. We have spent quite a long time discussing
my husband's upbringing. His family isn't really big on communicating,
and there are many problems that he and his siblings
have had over the years and continue to this day

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that were never addressed and never resolved. In session, he
talked about how he felt his emotional needs were never
really met growing up, but that he didn't realize it
until now.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
It made me really sad for him.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
We had his parents over a few weeks ago, and
as usual, the conversation remained really superficial and never delved
into anything substantial. I've tried to share with them about
our life and our losses before, but there's never been
any sign of interest from them in connecting with us.
In that way, even though his mother is one of
the only people I know in my life who has
suffered a loss as well.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
We spent the.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Next week's session processing their visit, and unfortunately, my husband
felt a lot of anger and frustration that he wasn't
able to talk to them about the important stuff. And
there is a little bit more to the story, but
they're in counseling.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, that's a good, good start, good start.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
We're kind of getting to the bottom of the root
of our problems here, so.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
You know, maybe things can turn around.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Maybe maybe I don't want to tell you not to
pursue it because I think it's good, right, and you've
been together for so long, But I just think, Oh,
he started off the story saying, I've had doubts.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
For a while, but I ignored them right and tried
for baby, and then we couldn't have a baby.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
And he's still acting like this.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, so it's just like I didn't get the very
best first impression of your relationship.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Oh so I just really haven't heard anything good about
the relationship.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Honestly, however, in our relationship things have completely transformed. We
argue so much less, and he is completely present and
there for me when I need his support. The topic
of having children has come back up, and we are
still figuring that out, but we can really talk about
it and be open and honest with each other without
fear and with respect and open arms for each other.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
He has repeatedly said that he's really.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Happy that we got into therapy and that he feels
great about the state of our relationship. I'm almost happy
we've gone through such hard time so that we were
able to hit bottom and get to this wonderful place.
So thank you to everyone for your kindness and generosity
and following our journey.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
And they're always a huge switch up. Yeah, it really was.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
I was like, everything's fine, guys.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, I don't know if I believe you, but I mean,
I don't know. I hope so, yeah, I really hope.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
So. But there are some final comments. Yeah delete it
says my husband's family is very similar to your husband's
And yes, my husband and his siblings all have issues.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
They bottle things up and then explode.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
They take things far too seriously and are very hard
on themselves. Meanwhile, they are unable to acknowledge when others
are experiencing sadness or pain. And instead see it as
a competition. For example, I told them that my mother
was seriously ill with his mother then launched into a
monologue about her aches and pains, and his siblings said
nothing at all. One of his siblings can't even say
happy Birthday or Merry Christmas. He says, it's your birthday

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and it's Christmas and you're here.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
When they do talk, it's about stuff like whine, music,
characters in a book. They don't ever talk about how
they're feeling, acknowledge anything bad that has happened, what's going
on in their lives, and nothing beyond a conversation that
you could easily have with a stranger. One of them
only shows how he is feeling with rants on Facebook,
which comes across as him having a pity party, and
when people reply and comments, he angrily rants at them and.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Says, I don't ask for your sympathy. I'm quite all right.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Then he'll have another rant on Facebook about people not
minding their own business about his life. When my husband
told his mother over the phone that we have been
confirming as infertile, without skipping a beat, she launched into
talking about.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
His sister's choir music.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
He was very angry and hurt, especially because my parents'
reaction was to cry for us and tell us how
sorry they are. And that was the tipping point where
he acknowledged that his parents don't communicate like they should.
Prior to that, he always said that I had an
abnormally close relationship with my parents because we talk every
few days on the phone. He rarely talks with his
family on the phone, not even for birthdays. My husband
husband to counseling. We also talk at length about how

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to express ourselves and how to acknowledge others.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
He's getting there.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
When I compare to how he is now to how
he was back then, he is one hundred times better
and much happier. I actually do think that what saved
him is that growing up, he was the only one
of his siblings that had a large group of friends
and was heavily involved in team sports, so he did
develop some type of social skills. The rest were daydreaming
with their nose in a book or off in La
La land playing musical instruments, and Op says, Wow, that's

(14:17):
really fascinating what you said about the conversations being like
what you would talk to a stranger about is definitely
might in laws.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
They don't even discuss politics with each other.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
We are really close with my family, and perhaps we
are a bit extreme on the other end of the
spectrum in terms of prying and sharing, but at least
I know I can confide in them and they will
always support us in whatever way we need them to.
Our main concern is that one of his siblings really
needs help and no one is acknowledging it. We believe
it will become our problem to deal with one day,
but no one will discuss it. So who knows? And

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that is the end of that story. Oh and yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I seems like it's a little bit better. Yeah,
ended on like a hopeful note, because I do kind
of feel like, sometimes, you know, if you get too
much into like lying or like trying to cover up
the bad things with the good things when you're like
talking about your problems in a relationship, I feel like
that could show problems in itself sometimes.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, So it's like I feel like, I mean, what
could be happening is she's just being very honest. Yeah,
and some of that honesty showed flaws in the relationship
for sure, but I mean it does seem like, you know,
hopefully they're working on it.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Some people just don't get it.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I mean, I feel like we grew up in with
so much talk about therapy and openness about that stuff.
But I mean, depending on how old they are, I
don't think we got their ages. Yeah, they've been together
for fifteen years, so maybe it's just hasn't been a
thing in their lives and they just didn't especially if
he grew up without a lot of communication in his family.
But I hope the best for you and your relationship, Opie.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
My boyfriend demanded a paternity test, but I never cheated.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
How could it be anyone else.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
My boyfriend asked for a paternity test for our child.
As soon as the results come and show he is
the father, I'm leaving him. I'm a new mom to
a baby boy who is my pride and joy, and
though it's been a rollercoaster adjusting to taking care of
a baby, the past few months have been.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Great, tiring, but great.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
By the way, this comes from I'm shattered and if
you want to smit your own stories, go to the
r slash. Okay, storytime suvered it so I have a
boyfriend of three years who is the first person relationship wise,
I have ever loved, and I thought we were doing
great as new parents but also as partners. Friday, he
came home and he asked me for a paternity.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Test, just like that.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
It was completely out of the blue. I was putting
away the dishes and he asked for one, like he
was asking what's for dinner. I'm a different race from him,
but our child, apart from the skin tone, is literally
his mirror image from pictures I've seen of him when
he was a baby. I was stunned when he asked,
and his reasons were that he had to be sure
he was the father. He had to have that certainty.
All I remember as he was speaking is just immediately

(16:51):
feeling pain. The man I love doesn't trust me. He
would actually believe that I would f someone else cheat
on him and then try to pass off off another
man's baby as his. I have never even given him
reason to think that I would cheat on him. I
have tried to be transparent and communicate, and it wasn't enough.
He told me he would give me time to think
about this, that he wouldn't go behind my back and

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do this test, but for our relationship to move forward,
he needs to be one hundred percent short.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
She's man for you to have a relationship moving forward.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
Like in total, you're gonna be one hundred percent short,
but your relationship's not gonna be moving forward.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
He repeated this because he, in his words, needed me
to realize how serious he was. After thinking for a
couple of days, I'm going to allow him this paternity
test because I have nothing to hide. I've never cheated
and would have never cheated on him. Once it's proven
that he's the father, I'm ending it, leaving the same day,
and I'm going to try my best to co parent
with him. In the meantime, I'm coming up with my

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exit plan, a place to live, and a lawyer to
work out a custody arrangement and court. I can't even
tell my family or my friends right now because they
would go nuclear, and my first priority.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Is our child.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
I hope the test was worth it to him. I'm
not asking for advice or reassurance or to explain his side.
I'm just realizing this part of my life is now over.
What a way to start the new year.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
And there is an update three weeks later.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
But what what do you do? I leave, like how
she's doing I'm.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Giving him the paternity test, and I'm going.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, if you can't trust me, like that's how we
were supposed to yeah, a kid.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Right now, how are supposed to parent together? Also just
without any proof? Yeah, he says, oh, I want a
paternity to test.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Right, and then it's like, okay, well now I don't
trust you.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeah, hell now I want a test for you.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
And Also I didn't like the line of like just
to see how serious I was.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
It's like we shouldn't be doing things.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
That are like I need you to know that this
is serious and that this is not okay. So I'm
gonna take this paternity test before our relationship could go forward.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
It feels like an ultimatum or like some sort of threat.
It absolutely is. I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
First update three weeks later we did the paternity test.
My boyfriend wanted my post was removed, so I'm going.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
To post it here.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Wow, it's been a couple of weeks since I posted,
and I have just been navigating things after. I'm going
to call my boyfriend Mason to keep things clear, this
is gonna be long. I'm sorry to clarify a few things.
We're different races, but to my knowledge, his family plus
extended is more than okay with it. His mother actually
set us up more than okay with the relationship.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Okay. I was like, what okay?

Speaker 5 (19:26):
I went to a dinner party and he and I
were the only single people who had been invited, and
we hit it off. She admitted to trying to set
us up for months. We have had no issues with
cheating or any situations where things could be sketchy during
the years we have been together. We also haven't broken
up or taken any breaks. Our son is his mirror image.
My boyfriend confided to his cousin about the paternity test

(19:48):
a couple of days after he asked me, and the
cousin told his wife, and it's spread like wildfire, especially
in their family group chats. His mom put an end
to the speculation, though, by doing a half and a
half pick of him and our son, but also by
adding some additional individual picks of both of them. She
posted the pictures in the family group chat and said,
look at the old picks I found of mace. Then

(20:09):
I mean good on the mom for being like, shut up, kid, yeah,
shut up, you don't know what you're talking about. Right
after people commented, she said, actually the one on the
right is my grandchild, or this one isn't Mason. Literally,
the family members just thought it was the same person
in all of the picks, and that some of the
photos were taken in darker lighting. That is how much
our sun looks like him, Dan, which I find funny

(20:32):
but also a little annoying, Like I carried you for
nine months and all.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
You could be is a copy of your dad. Dude,
for real.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
I didn't see the group chat, but the topic passed
away when his mom did that. Anyway, we talked. When
I had made the first post, I was so angry
and planned to leave, but the anger was quickly replaced
by hurt. Once I calmed down, I realized if I
blindsided him like that, I would be doing the exact
same thing that he did to me when he asked

(20:58):
for a paternity test. No, you wouldn't, I think she's saying, like,
if I told him that I don't want to be together,
it would be the same as him.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, Like I didn't have a conversation about it first.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, you should have a conversation, but it would
not be the same thing.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, I agree, because you're doing it based off of
something that.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
You saw him do, and he's doing it off of nothing. Nothing.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, I plan to ask him to talk, but I
also didn't want him to think I was trying to
get out of the test. So beforehan, I booked an
appointment at two different paternity test locations, I asked him
to talk. When he came home and I made sure
our child was at my mom's. I told him that
whatever happened with this talk, the paternity tests have been
booked and would go forward. I basically asked him his
reasoning and when he started having doubts about paternity.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Was it a previous relationship?

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Did cheating happen? He said it was about a week
before he asked me that he started having doubts. And
this is after the kid has been born. Yeah, so
this is after he has proof that this kid looks
exactly like him, right, But he's having doubts.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
It's not even like, oh, you got pregnant, but like
we haven't had spicy sleep.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Or something like that.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Like it's like he actually has more proof that the kid.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Is his Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
He said that he was on his lunch break one
day just reading articles, and he clicked on an old
article about a man who found out his three kids
weren't his after like twenty years. This led him into
a rabbit hole of podcasters and YouTube videos that encouraged
men to ask for paternity test. So he went down
the little red pill rabbit hole.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Imagine if one of those videos were hours Oh rab oh,
I hope not. We're part of the red pill rabbit hole.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Oh, because whenever people get paternity tests, were like, only
do that if you have don't just yess, we discourage it.
So well, he thought those podcasters were He said that
paternity was an exception. He's like, they're stupid, but but you.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Have a point, yeah, he said.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
His reasoning was that some women have done this before,
and he wanted to be sure. He said, you know
it's yours because the baby comes out of you. But
how do I know?

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Oh my gosh, because yeah, literally because of photo evidence.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
The test gives me that assurance. I was hurt by that,
but I decided to explain how I felt. I said
that for him it was a rational request, while for
me it was basically him saying that he didn't trust me.
It was him saying that he believed I would cheat
on him, get pregnant, have him emotionally, financially and physically
support me during the pregnancy and birth, and basically lie
to him while he raised another man's child. I told

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him that I understand that women had done this before,
but the fact that he thought I would do this
to him is what bothered me. I told him the
truth that when I was angry, I had planned to leave,
and that I even went looking into a lawyer and
a co parenting plan and a new place to live.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
B Hope Art says, I know someone that got opportunity
test because of your show.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
But that's not red pill. That's providing people with information.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
What I'm thinking with this story, though, too, is that
we also have read a lot of stories where the
dad wants a portunity test even though the wife didn't cheat,
and it's because he was cheating all along, so she
should throw that back at him.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
He was stunned that I would leave for something so small. Crazy, crazy.
You just accused your wife of cheating on you. Yeah,
you just accused your wife of cheating on you.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, that's enough for me.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Honestly, I found that to be a weird kind of
irony that he believed issuing an ultimatum about a paternity
test and basically accusing your partner of cheating was something small.
I told him I was really hurt by what he said,
that I was still hurt, but that if he needs
this peace of mind, that we would do it. He asked,
what about a relationship, and I told him.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
We did the test two days later, got the results
back after three days. He opened both of them, and
to the surprise of.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
No one, he's the dead jaw.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
He was visibly relieved when he read the tests. And
I don't know why that hurt me more. Yeah, because
a part of him thought that you cheated on him. Yeah,
a part of him watched all of these YouTube videos
and believed that you cheated on him.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
And it's not even just that he was like scared
that you were cheating on him, because, like, you know,
it's valid. It's like I would lose a lot of
trust if someone accused me of cheating and I never did,
you know, But at the same time, if you genuinely
are scared of that. I don't want to be like, oh,
you can never ask because then I leave you even like,
because then.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
What if I did cheat?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
You know what I mean, and then you just never
asked because I made that threat, not saying that that's
what happened.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
I'm not cheating, but like, okay, I feel like I'm
going down.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
I wasn't sure where that was going.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
No, but I don't want it to be like, oh,
if you ever asked that I'm cheating, if you're ever
even scared about that, whether there's evidence or not. I
don't want to be like I'm ending the relationship because
what if someone says that to me and I do
think that they're cheating, and.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Now I can't talk about it because it's going to end.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
The thing is that I think that if you accuse
someone of cheating, yeah, and regardless of whether or not
you have proof, yeah, there are consequences to that. Yeah,
and you might be right. It's the same thing of
like looking through someone's phone right now, right, you might
be right. You might stumble across the right answer even
if you don't have proofer you know, and figure out
that they are cheating. But if you're wrong, you have

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bro the relationship, right, You've broken a fundamental part of
the relationship. It's been about two weeks since the results
and I'm still really hurt. God, I sound so pathetic.
I feel pathetic. I thought the results would maybe relieve
some of that, but it didn't. It's like a switch
click t when he asks for the test and I
can't find a way to click it off. I'm pretty
sure postpartum is playing a part in this, because all

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I do is cry, and I wasn't like this before.
I have also moved into the spare room, something he
was against, but I felt bad because, apart from when
our son is awake, I'm sad all the time. I'm
looking for a therapist. I don't know how people find
the therapists they like so quickly.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
By the way, and he wants.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
To do couples therapy, and he's looking for one. He
already has a few appointments booked just to try them out.
He wants to move on, of course, he does marriage
more kids in the future and go back to where
we are, and thinks that our relationship is now stronger.
In what way is it stronger? Is he gonna do
this every time you have a kid. Yeah, right, Well,
I'm just thinking our relationship right now is weaker than

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a person on stilts.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
I don't know if I would say we're together.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
The physical affection is gone. I'm not in the right mindset,
and I don't want him to touch me. We rarely
talk about anything but the baby. It's awkward and I'm
trying to find a way back to where we were
and I can't see how I'm going to try to
fix this and try therapy individual and couples, but I
just have this feeling that this is basically a sinking ship.
I hope I'm wrong. I want very much to be wrong.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Edit.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
I know some people are worried, but I have a
contingency plan in place. I have a lawyer, I've gotten
a childcare custody plan worked up. During these two weeks.
I've told my family, who are mostly close by. I
have a rental property I own and can go to.
Our finances are separate, so I'm good there. I know
myself and i know I'm not in the right headspace
right now. I'm staying in the spare room. There's no affection.

(27:44):
Therapy individual or couples will hopefully help me and we'll
hopefully reaffirm that I had the right idea in the beginning.
It's not as easy to move when there's a child,
So I'm making sure that I'm mentally well, our child
is good, and then I'll make a decision. Thank you, though,
for all your kindness and perspective, and folks, there is
a second update if you didn't already see it, finish

(28:04):
this story off. I don't think this relationship is salvagible. Yeah,
because he's so cavalier about it. Yeah, he's like, yeah,
I got the chest, now we're good, right right, Like
he's not what are you upset about?

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Yeah? Exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Like I feel like if she wanted to work on things, Yeah,
I could see them working through this, and I can
see them maybe talking about it and it being like, hey,
talk to me more. You gotta like trust me more
with this stuff, Like why don't you trust me?

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Are there anything else? Is there anything else I've done?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
You know that could happen, But it definitely would be
unfair because he didn't offer her that.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
I's just been.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Every step of the way he has operated on a
like first thing that comes to my mind, I do yeah,
Like this is so impulsive yeah, exactly, because and.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Then that's so stressful of being accused of that, especially
right after you had a kid, right, and that's just
so stressful and unpredictable for yourself.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
I think he literally went a paternity test and she
said what why? He said, I saw a YouTube video
and then she said, uh, okay, fine, gets a paternity test.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
And he's like, okay, got the proof. We're good now. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
No, it's not like I'm so sorry for not trusting you, Right,
I had all these horrible doubts, and like, let's go
to therapy, let's work on this, right, you know, like
I want to earn back your trust. None of that happened. Yeah,
things have gone downhill, and under advisement, I can't really
discuss it until things have been settled in court. Ooh yeah,
I mean like having a kid makes it difficult for sure.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I guess I'm really a cautionary tale.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
On what can go wrong. Please, if you have concerns
with your partner, discuss things beforehand, especially before you have
a child. Thank you again for your different perspectives. Hoping
to have everything settled eventually.

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Speaker 3 (29:53):
My boyfriend's dog is disgusting and he's not doing anything
about it. Wash your dog. I twenty eight female. I
have been with my boyfriend twenty eight male for four years.
He got a boxer dog about a month into our relationship.
He is a very sweet and obedient dog, but my
boyfriend doesn't take care of him very well. He's not neutered,
he doesn't get any flea and tick medications, he doesn't

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get worming tablets, he does not go to the vets,
and I highly doubt he gets his vaccines. He also
gets cheap supermarket food that gives him a runny poo ewww.
And don't you like have to get that stuff though
you gotta get your shots and stuff.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
By the way, this comes from Tomato twenty three ninety seven.
And if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the hour slash Okay story time separate it. So, I,
on the other hand, don't have a dog, but I
did grow up with the little Maltese family dog who
was very spoilt by my family. All his monthly worming
and flea and take medications were always up to date.
I showered him every week, brushed him every night, et cetera,
et cetera. My partner does not take his dog on

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daily walks and swims out of nearby lake every single day, rain,
hail or shine, just so he gets his needed exercise.
He's also very well trained, and my partner loves teaching
him new to keep his brain going. Overall, I don't
think my partner has any ill intent. He loves his
dog immensely. I feel that he just doesn't realize that
you have to do more than taking him on daily walks.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
That he shouldn't have a dog, genuinely. If you don't
know what goes into taking care of a dog, shouldn't
have a dog. Yeah, like any sort of pet care.
If you don't know, like everything that's entailed into taking
care of pet, you should not have a pet.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah. I think it's like, point blank period hygiene and
health wise.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
My partner treats his dog the complete opposite of how
I think a dog should be taken care of, and
I don't know how to get him to change his ways.
I've told him numerous times to get him neutered, and
it's a legal requirement, but he freaks out and says, no,
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Cutting his wheed er off.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I've tried and tried to tell him that he needs
to be having his medications, but he is insistent that
the best way to prevent flees and takes is by
taking him swimming at the beach. My biggest hate is
the fact that he never even bathes the dog. He
thinks that him swimming in the lake washes away all
his dirtiness, but it really doesn't. He absolutely smells foul,
no exaggeration. He smells like a farm animal.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
I feel like it's just too bad.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
It's pretty bad. I feel like taking him in the
lake is like reason to washed it.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Yeah, like he would want to wash off the lake water.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, to make it worse. He lets him sleep on
his own bed. Oh, we don't.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Live together, but I do go over and stay the
night sometimes, and his room and sheets just smell like
a farm like a dirty dog.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
I literally wouldn't stay over, Yeah, I couldn't. So I
doubt this man washes his sheets consistently. Yeah, so he
treats his dog.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
He's like, it's fine, I don't need to do that.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
It makes my skin crawl and I can't go to
sleep because I'm so grossed out, and and it's.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
My partner is otherwise a pretty clean person. His place
is always clean and tidy. He showers twice a day.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
He washes his sheets twice a month, but as the
dog sleeps on it every night, I find it starts
smelling soon after it's washed.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Okay, so he does wash his sheets, yeah, but only
twice a month.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
It's a month.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
It's not awful, it's not awful, but with the dog
it's pretty bad.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I feel like, normally, if you are just sleeping in
your sheets, yeah, and you're generally clean, I feel like
twice a month isn't that bad.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
It should be closed to three to four times a month.
You know, twice a month is fine, but with the
novice you should probably do it faster.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I guess it's similar to how people can't smell their
own houses because they're just used to the smell. I
fear my boyfriend doesn't realize his room reeks either.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Girl tell him, yeah, And with him.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Not knowing any different and seemingly set in his own ways,
it feels.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Like a losing battle.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
The dog is not allowed to come to my apartment,
but my boyfriend doesn't know that it's because of how
grossy is that I don't want him over. It might
be an ignorant way of thinking, but I fear that,
as he's not medicated against fleas, takes, warms, et cetera,
that he will end up bringing it to my carpet
and furniture.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
I'm itchy just thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
My partner thinks his dog is not allowed over solely
because it's a small apartment and he doesn't have enough
room to run around. Partially true, Trust me when I
say I've tried endlessly over the years to get him
to change his ways, but it feels like a losing battle,
to the point where I just don't see the point
in trying anymore. He will either go off of me
or act like I'm being mean to him. I also
think that because we don't live together and it's technically

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his dog, he feels like I don't have a right
to be telling him how to treat him. We're now
starting to talk about getting an apartment together, and I
just can't imagine living with his dog in his current state.
I feel guilty for not even wanting to pat the dog,
because he is really is so sweet, but he's just dirty.
I also don't know how to get my partner to
realize how a crap of an owner he is.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
How do I open a.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Conversation up with him without getting him upset or going
off of me, and to actually take me seriously. I
don't expect him to choose between me or the dog.
I just want him to actually care for him, properly
look after him without me having to do it all.
And there's a bit of an editor Thank you for
all your comments. I'm glad to see him not being dramatic,
and most of you are right in saying I don't

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hate the dog. As I said earlier, he is the
sweetest thing. I just wouldn't go out of my way
to pat or snuggle with him, which is how I
grew up showing love to my family dog. I do
that I really should be doing more to stop the neglect.
I just feel so powerless in this situation. Well, I've
been a part of the dog's life his whole life.
I feel like my partner has never really seen me
as his owner, therefore doesn't think I have any say

(35:12):
in how he should be treated. And there are some comments,
but yeah, she's already tried. I mean, what else is
there for her to do?

Speaker 5 (35:19):
It doesn't feel like she has had like a full
on conversation because she's asking, how do I start that conversation? Yeah,
so I feel that full on conversation. Yeah, hasn't happened
quite yet.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I think we need more details because she says that
she has tried endlessly over the years, but she didn't
really like say.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
What she was what she tried.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah, and then she also mentioned like without me
just doing it and taking care of it myself, Like
I'm guessing filling in the blanks. It could be wrong,
but maybe she like would give up and just try
to clean him like herself.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
But then it's like, okay, but it's I shouldn't be
the one having to do this. I you just.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Literally say, hey, like let's sit down and talk about this.
I'm sure you've had outher hard conversations with your partner
because it's what relationships are about. Sure, you sit him
down and you say, hey, I grew up having dogs.
You know, I know how to take care of dogs.
There are kind of a couple things that you need
to do, yeah, as a dog owner, and that includes this,
this and this yeah, and it.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
You know, it's a little bit concerning that.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
I haven't seen you do that with your dog, and
I really love your dog, but it's not good for
him to not be clean and not have shots and yeah,
kind of go through all of that stuff and maybe
show him research about this.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah, and like what you're supposed to do. Yeah, yeah,
there are some comments.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Comment number one says, if your boyfriend made it to
the age of twenty eight believing getting a male dog
new nerd means cutting his wiener off, I fear there
are bigger issues at play here.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I agree, his dog absolutely deserves better. However, I disagree
with your titling here. Your boyfriend's dog is assuming what
you've written is true neglected, and that neglect is causing
the dog to experience things you find disgusting. The dog
can't take himself to the vet, or buy different food,
or bathe himself. That is a boyfriend problem, not a
dog problem. Someone else responds that the dog isn't disgusting

(37:04):
your boyfriend is okay.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
I mean, I don't think that's like a huge deal,
but sure.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Coming Number two says, I don't know what your long
term plan is here, but I for sure could live
with or raise a family with someone who doesn't see
the value in basic hygiene for their pet and, by extension, themselves.
Really think about what this looks like in five years
before you move in together or really even spend more
time with him. You deserve to find someone who matches
your energy and treats you and their pets well.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
And there is an update.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
But yeah, I think those comments are pretty I agree,
pretty good. It's concerning, very concerning. Is he just gonna
throw your kid in the lake he went into water?
He just puts him outside during when it rains. Yeah, yeah, literally,
free shower, Yeah, free shower our water billshot.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
But there is an update.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
So I sat down with my boyfriend this morning to
open up about the issues I've been having regarding his
neglect towards his dog. Yeah, he became a quite defensive
and adamant that he was not neglecting his dog.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
I even threatened to break up with him if he
didn't change.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
He brushed off a lot of my points, saying I'm overreacting,
blah blah blah blah. So I took the easiest way
out and just showed him this Reddit post itself not
sure what went through my head, but I wasn't sure
what else is say. He surprisingly went through all four
hundred plus comments, apparently having four hundred plus people call
him out and say the exact same things that I've
been saying, seems to have gotten the message across to

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him good.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
I think usually comments would make me change my mind
about a few things, but I've had hundreds of thousands
of comments at this point. Yeah, I think you'll bother me.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I think you have more comments than just one Reddit post,
so yeah, exactly. I think his ego is very bruised
that I've been right all along, and I'm sure he's
also very embarrassed. But things are looking somewhat promising. We've
gone to the pet shop this afternoon after work and
purchased some dog shampoo, dog wipes, and some pet cologne,
and he's given the.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Dog a big bath this day.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Sheets have been washed, and the dog now has a
few special blankets to lie on when he's on the bed,
which we've agreed to change every other day. I'm sure
if this will do anything, but it's better than nothing,
And yeah, there's a little bit more to the story.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Games much better than nothing. Yeah, I guess he hasn't
done all the shots and all the like neutering and such.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Sure, but we've washed the dog. And that's a step.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
That's a big step on a stag steps, never washing
the dog and taking him to the lake every day.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
I've pet a dog that was really like really sweet,
but really really stinky. Yeah, And it's so sad because
I love petting dog and this was a type of
dog like type of stinking that you like, touch him, yeah,
and your hand just smell and you're like I can't.
And the dog is so friendly and you're like, no,
don't touch I love you.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
But he was so stinky, yeah, Because it's like it's
one thing for the dog to be like dirty because
of little just dirty, yeah, but it's another thing to have.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Like dinky like lake water on you.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
It's like that is already stinky in itself, but then
when it sits dude, not gonna be good. He's done
some research on worming and flea preventation and all the
different kinds out there. We have plans to go to
the pet shop this week to buy whatever worming slash
flea medications he decides to give him.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
I have agreed to.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Pay half for a higher end dog food for the dog,
which I'm happy to do as if it means no
more running poos. He's also been researching about the benefits
of pet neutering, and I think he has realized that
it does not, in fact mean cutting off his wiener.
I was wrong in my original post, as apparently it's
not a legal requirement in our area to get pets neutered.
I'm not sure if he will go through with it

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or not, but at least he's a bit more informed
in making that decision. Overall, I think things are looking
somewhat promising and appropriate changes are starting to be made.
I'm sure that I'll have to remind him about bathing,
the dog, medications, et cetera over the next few months,
but I have my fingers crossed that he will learn eventually.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
We're taken baby steps.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
I told my boyfriend I won't leave him to go abroad,
but now I changed my mind.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Broad's am I right?

Speaker 7 (40:50):
Right?

Speaker 5 (40:52):
I've been female twenty two with my boyfriend twenty one
male for nine months together. Now we've met in Uni.
He's want you're younger. I studied hard for two years
for an opportunity to go abroad on an exchange program
of two years. Boyfriend came in during the last eight months.
After applying for it and getting it in March, I
suddenly became full of dread for many reasons. By the way,

(41:15):
this comes from throwa eight two seven three eight eight
three eight and if you want to smit your own stories,
go to the r slash okay story time severed it.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
It felt so scary.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
I didn't realize how much of a big move moving
abroad was until I got it. Even if I worked
for it for ages, the program didn't align with what
I had in mind, and I didn't realize until it
was too late to back out. It hurts so much
to think of leaving my boyfriend behind, even if this
is a great opportunity to improve my quality of life
by emigrating to a first world country. My boyfriend during

(41:45):
this whole process was supportive and told me he didn't
want to say anything that would get in the way
of what I wanted, and I was so dreadful. I
just told him straight up I wasn't interested anymore, and
it was true. I would just let the process go
down on its own. This hall happened up to me.
I told him I didn't want to go anymore, and
I made sure to tell him why. Flash forward to
two days ago. I started asking some people that joined

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this exchange program, and they all recommended it and soothed
my fears. The program wasn't that difficult, and it did
align with some of my expectations, and I suddenly became
a lot interested and less paralyzed by the fear of
the unknown great stuff. I changed my mind, and I
realized I would have to tell my boyfriend I would
be going through with it since I was going to

(42:28):
go abroad in exactly two months. I don't know how
to tell him. I feel like I've betrayed him in
a sort of way, but I genuinely wasn't interested until
I asked about and I cleared my doubts about this program.
I feel like I'm stabbing in the back by suddenly
changing my mind, But I swear I didn't want to
go until suddenly I did.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
That's how it goes, though.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
Yeah, I know that wanting to stay just because I
didn't want to leave him behind is already stupid, and
that I should always think of my future first and foremost.
But I love him so much, And I feel like
crying every time I think of him and of how
much I love him. You haven't even left yet, and
how and how he completes me and truly gets me.
After a string of awful relationships, my self esteem is

(43:09):
already so wrecked, but he healed me just by being him.
I just get sent into another crying fit just thinking
of leaving him behind. Girl, it's gonna be like two
much like you know, maybe four months back, But this
is it's a semester college, right, Everything's so important, really
is Yeah?

Speaker 7 (43:27):
It really is like you're twenty something, yeah, or I
guess she's a senior, but still your early.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
Everything is so Yeah, life or death is all of
the time. Truly, it feels like I'm abandoning him, and
I don't even know how to break the news to him.
I know we might break up because of the long distance,
even if I'm willing anything for us to stay together.
I just love him so much. If you break up
because you're going abroad for US semester, it maybe wasn't

(43:54):
the one, you know. Yeah, I feel like abroad for
US semester that I meant to try all the cuisines
out there, The cuisines.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
Yeah, you got to see. You know, how they make
their sausages out there, how they count their meat, how
they you know, bake things.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Thanks, Riley. How they bake things?

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Yeah, they bake things different.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
I don't even have the heart to start any official
visa procedure yet because I'm waiting to properly tell him first.
But how can I tell him without it feeling like
I'm the most vile person on earth for changing my
mind so suddenly?

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Girl?

Speaker 5 (44:27):
How to make it the least painful possible for him?
I'm already grieving losing him. She's already grieving losing him.
I don't want to hurt him more. Any advice is welcome,
and there are some comments. We'll get into them. Hey,
I really feel for you reading this. It's obvious how
deeply you care about him, and that kind of love
is rare. But I'm gonna be honest with you because
I've been in your shoes. You have to go, not

(44:50):
because you don't love him, but because you love yourself. Amen,
And right now, this chapter of your life needs to
be about you. You spent two years working towards this
opportunity that wasn't random, that wasn't a phase. It meant something.
And yes, it's scary to actually step into what you
once dreamed about. It's okay that fear crept in. It's
okay that you started questioning everything once the moment got real.

(45:12):
That doesn't make you weak, It makes you human. The
fact that you're reevaluating now after asking questions and getting
new clarity, it shows strength. You're not flip flopping, You're growing,
You're getting honest with yourself. That's what maturity looks like.
So be kind to yourself and don't beat yourself up
so much about how you've handled the situation with him.
This is the part of your life where you're supposed
to be selfish, not in a cold or careless way,

(45:34):
but in the deeply necessary way that lets you.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Find out who you are.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
You're twenty two. This is your window to stretch, evolve, stumble,
and transform.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
I've lived abroad for the last four years.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
It changed me in ways I never could imagined.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Yeah, this commenter is like, I.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Want this strids abroad.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
I went to Paris for semester. Can I say something?

Speaker 7 (45:57):
This commentar's doing great, though, I'm like, I don't even
need to be here.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
No hand.

Speaker 7 (46:03):
Yeah, I do want to know how they changed a
broad Yeah. I'm like, there's a little part of me that's.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Like, ooh, okayed, what happened? I became a different person,
a better person me two point zero because I stepped
away from my comfort zone and into something unknown. I
didn't do that at first. I once stayed behind for
a high school girlfriend instead of going away to college.
We broke up anyway, and I missed an entire life
I could have built. I wish I had chosen myself

(46:29):
back then. I wish someone had told me what I'm
telling you now. Tell your boyfriend the truth. Be kind,
be honest, and give him space to feel whatever comes up.
But don't sacrifice your future to make him comfortable. Don't
hold yourself back out of guilt. You're not abandoning him.
You're honoring the path you've worked hard for. If it's
meant to be, maybe you two will find your way
back to each other down the line. But if not,

(46:51):
that's okay too. It means he was part of your story,
but not the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Cry.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
If you need to grieve, let it hurt, but go anyway.
You won't regret it. I promise well, hot Dog, that
was a great comment great.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Yeah, I'm gonna head out wrap it up. Boys, can
we call them in?

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Jeez, And we've got that commentary, and we.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Guy here and they come in.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
They're wearing a breath they're wearing a beret, they're eating.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
I don't know if you can tell, but I wanted
to berry. That's sort of where I learned to become
a better person.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
And it changed my life, and it changed my life. Yeah,
I think that commentary is exactly right. Ope, one tell
your partner really doesn't really matter what your partner says,
because the results should still be You go on this
trip because it gets so much harder to travel as
an adult once you're out of college. Like this is
for some people, once in a lifetime opportunity to go

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live somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
So take it.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
You want it, You have our approval, you have our permission.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Updates.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
I met up with my boyfriend, who was very insistent
to see me.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
I thought he missed me too.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
When we met, he immediately asked me if I was
still going to change my mind. I was a bit
relieved that he brought it up because I didn't know
how to. I was honest and told him I was going,
explaining my decision and everything leading up to it. I
even told him I wanted to stay for us because
I loved him so much, but it wouldn't be fair
for any of us a big decision or sacrifice like this.
He was very quiet, wasn't reactive much. We joked a

(48:14):
little bit and carried on with our hangout. He felt
a bit distant. I didn't want to press him much
further because I guessed he was still feeling burnt out
from his recent internship.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
I'm not the.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Type to nag, and I was just really happy we
were hanging out. We parted ways, and the next day
we didn't talk all day because he told me he
was leaving our city to go to his hometown five
hours away.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Okay, he told you that day.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
He was like I gotta go, I gotta go right now,
And you're like, oh, okay, I feel like he's having
a breakdown.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
The very next day, a week ago, I woke up
to a message at eight am telling me if I
thought our relationship would have a future in these new circumstances.
I was very panicked because he even dropped the pet
names I told him we needed to talk on the
phone Q five hours later, with no response, I told
him the way he switched up so suddenly is a worrying.
He texted me back, sending long text telling me he

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couldn't do long distance, that he was thinking of this
for a while, which matches up since he was acting
more distant since May, and even if he tried, he
wouldn't treat me the way I deserve to be treated,
that he could shift his sights on another girl, that
he warned me about this the very first day we met,
about an ex he couldn't get back with because of
long distance, and that he loved me, and that he

(49:23):
was breaking up with me because he did love me,
and if he didn't, he would just go ahead with
long distance and not care as much. That we should
break up now on good terms, something we wouldn't be
able to do on long distance, and good luck with
what I had in mind in the future.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
This is craz'n like this what I'm not like the
most angry at that, but it was over the ten pieces.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
That's true. That's true. I don't like the text like
the da dub like I do think.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
A phone caller and in person would have been better.
Like again, we always talk about.

Speaker 7 (49:51):
Like, okay, just communicate the truth of how you're feeling.
And I'm going to like, you know what, if that's
the case, cut.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Your tie, you know, then we do this. Yeah, I
mean if he's even thinking about.

Speaker 7 (50:03):
Cheating, then I guess that that was one of those
ones where I'm like, I don't know if we put
that in the text, you know, in the breakup text
where we're like, I think you could have just left it,
and like, hey, I.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Just don't think I can do long distance. Yeah, that's
gonna be really tough for me.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
I don't think you needed to say, like.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
If you do it, I'm probably the beautiful, beautiful women
running around the college campus couldn't do it.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Oh, it is a two year program, and I didn't
know that that change just a lot we change two years.

Speaker 7 (50:33):
In my mind, it does change the context, but at
the same time, to me, it doesn't change the methods.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
Yeah, Like I don't think that.

Speaker 7 (50:41):
It's like it changes the context, but it still is
the same stuff of like talk.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
To your partner, be truthful. I agree.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
I was thinking I was like, wow, girl, you're overreacting. Yeah, no,
that's you're not overreacting.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Two years is a long time. You're not overreacting.

Speaker 7 (50:55):
I still do want you to have more positive self
talk towards yourself, but more of the I agree.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
I still think you should go take it.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
I now understand why he wants to leave, you know,
to cut it off. Probably should have done it in person.
When I asked him why didn't simply break up with
me in person when we met instead of text, he
told me he wanted a good last hangout with no drama.
But I would feel so much less hurt if I
was broken up with in other ways than text, and
even less so if someone who had been planning for

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a while to break up with me had told me
the very instant he started thinking of going through with It.
Just feels like a blind side, even if I was
expecting to break up, but not like this. During the hangout,
he even asked me to come over to his house
before he went back to his hometown. I couldn't because
schedules didn't fit. Of course, we were gonna be intimate,
and this angers me more because he knew for a

(51:44):
while that he wanted to break up with me, yet
he still wanted me to come over for spicy sleep yikes,
And there is a little bit left to this story.
I think you did the best that you could do. Yeah,
you kind of nailed all of this. Yeah, you know,
you change your mind. People do it. And you told
him when you'd figured it out.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
And now go enjoy Bolivia or whatever are you going.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
I don't know, Go enjoy Croatia.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Go enjoy Croatia.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
But there's a little bit left to this story. I
think you nail that he didn't. I was so heartbroken.
Keep in mind, he told me all of this in
five minutes. I got literally broken up with in five
minutes when I sent him messages that I understood why
he would break up, and then I'm still really heartbroken
over it. I got no response, just left on delivered.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Ouch.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
He's still active on his Instagram account. No, that's the
worst part, liking reels and such Ooh, but I feel
so gutted. I could understand why he would break up.
I was bracing for it, but the way he did
it is just really breaking my heart. And I don't
know if I'm even right to feel this way. It
just felt like a complete discard and complete disrespect to

(52:49):
brush over nine months of solid relationship so easily. I'm
not planning on reaching out because I know it's over.
There's no point of violating his boundaries, and I can't
bring myself to text someone I was head over heels
in love with, so attached with, that discarded me without
looking back. I know he was in his rights to
break up, but I just feel so sad about how
it happened. I'm dealing with it pretty hard at the moment.

(53:10):
I have no appetite and I can only distract myself
with visa proceedings. I'm not bashing him on wanting to
break up, but how careless it felt to me after
nine months together, after everything I did for him and
how much I loved him. Thank you for everyone that
gave me advice. I did love him a lot, and
I feel sad about all this. I'm carrying on with
my studying abroad project. I appreciate everyone that reached out

(53:32):
and gave me a piece of their mind. Just feel
like I should update on what happened.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
John Here, We're gonna get back to this juicy story,
but a quick three minute break of.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Ads from our sponsors. My wife got the disease and
still tried to sleep with me.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
Don't be giving any any of that, please.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I twenty seven male, have been married to my wife
twenty nine female, for four years together eight years, and
we have a son who's a toddler. Together. Around six
or seven months ago, I struggled with some mental and
medical problems that made my libido drop to the point
where we had a passed away bedroom for four months.

(54:10):
Oh about two months ago, my wife asked me to
open our marriage because she was frustrated and disappointed in
our bedlight.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
Oh so it wasn't about like not getting enough happening.
It was that she's probably unattracted to you.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
She had also started acting cold around me before that point.
At that point, I was very stressed and anxious, so
I easily agreed to save our marriage and we made
some agreement that that's where wrong the game, an en,
she's gonna take a mile.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
God, what are these agreements? Always love seeing these open
marriage agreements and how they start off thinking their fool proof.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah. I know a few people who are like who
have tried to make it work or are in like
a poly lifestyle. And sometimes sometimes they're there they can work,
but a lot of the time it just ends up
with people getting her. Yes, she seemed to come back
to normal, and I felt relieved by the way this
comes from irresponsible man dad to six' four and if

(55:10):
you want to submit your own, stories go to the
r slash okay story Of time. SUBREDDIT a week, ago
she suddenly Wanted spicy sleep with me, again AND i
slightly rejected Because i'm still trying to improve my mental.
Health she broke out and we had, arguments which ended
up with her leaving the house and staying with her Sister.
Yey after two, days my son started to ask about his.

(55:33):
MOM i felt awful BECAUSE i had to lie to.
Him she didn't answer my calls or, texts SO i
tried to contact her, sister but got no answer. Too
on the third, day suddenly my sister in law. Contacted
WHEN i picked, up she yelled at, me called me
all the, names and Said i'm the ah for letting
my wife deal with THE STDs. Alone what? STDs, yo

(55:57):
that's not the way you want to find out about.
This you never want to find out about, this but
certainly not that.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
Way AND i bet you you're the one that went
around getting them and you gave them to her after
the story went oh, yeah this is definitely what's about
to have been.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Said, OKAY i was frozen and said what she, said
she found medicines and medical records of my wife and hung.
Up i'm now feeling like a mess and heartbroken after
three days of thinking it's not just that she betrayed
our agreement about, it but it makes me. Scared was
she trying to make me get AN std?

Speaker 6 (56:30):
Too oh my, gosh you probably.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
WAS i feel like our marriage is, over but our
son is still very. YOUNG i don't know what to do.
Now please give me some. Advice there's an, update but
let's uh unpack. This there's a there's a lot of
there's a lot to unpack. Here.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
Dude you know how mess up you have to be
to have a, bedroom propose and open, marriage proceed to
cheat without an, agreement get, STDs and then force your
husband to sleep with use so you can give HIM,
std so you can frame him to having the one
to get.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Sdds depending on how serious it, Is i'm pretty sure
that's like a, charge really, yeah because like you knowingly have, This,
yeah you're dealing with that could potentially you and then
you pass it along to someone and give them, that oh.
Disease that is oh, man someone who's got legal. Background

(57:25):
correct me If i'm. Wrong, uh sharing is not caring
in this. Situation but correct me If i'm. Wrong But
i'm pretty sure you could take someone like you could
criminally charge someone with.

Speaker 6 (57:35):
That that's, wild like that.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
You're actively giving someone a.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
Disease, yeah someone please confirm. This i'm gonna believe.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
It, yes it is.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
Illegal thank, You. Sophia, okay it is. Illegal this is.
Wild that's good to know.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Too oh we, okay here we. Go. UPDATE i did the.
Test i'm still. Healthy thank. Good my doctor still recommends
a few more tests next week to be. Sure we've
got some comments from ambroisyc why or Ambros. Cci i'm, Sorry,
opi but there are so many red flags and none

(58:09):
of those are coming from. You while you have mental
and medical problems and try to deal with, them your
wife decides to open your marriage and go sleep around
instead of helping you get better and work on your.
Marriage her spicy related frustration is more important to her
than your own. Health that should have been your first
and last clue that she's an awful. Person your wife

(58:31):
asks you to have spicy, sleep but your mental health
hasn't been, improving and you deny it within good, reason
in my, opinion she lashes out at you and leaves
you and the. Kids she doesn't call any of you
for two. DAYS i, mean your freaking son doesn't understand
where his mom, is and she just doesn't care at.
All she found out she had AN std and is

(58:51):
probably the real reason she left to her sister's. House to,
me this is the apogy of. Disrespect not only she
probably didn't take enough FOR ptecd and clearly didn't care
while sleeping with other, men but she tried to have
spicy sleep without you, knowing and there was a possibility
she had THE. Std you're here trying to figure out
if you are AN ah for not being concerned about

(59:13):
something you didn't know anything. About, Seriously, op you need
to open your, eyes not just your. Marriage that's a
that's a fun, line BANGER. NTA i even thought of
the possibility of her knowing fully she had AN sd
while trying to spicy sleep WITH, op so she could
accuse him of passing into her, afterwards exactly like her sister.

(59:35):
Did wow comments From organic two thousand and. Three so
you willingly opened your marriage or was it forced on?
You open marriage rarely. Works you should have known. Better
didn't you even talk about STD's or, pregnancy have any
kind of? Plan everyone sucks. Here the whole situation is a.
Mess and did she really try to give you AN
std that can be criminal in some? Places, OP i don't.

(59:58):
KNOW i don't feel uncomfortable with her sleeping around as
long as we communicate about, it BUT i do feel
it got too fast AND i should be more skeptical about.
It we have made the agreement that she needed to
make sure her partner was clean and always use the,
rapper and she insisted THAT i can trust. Her she
did say that if she got, pregnant she would immediately.
Terminate BEST vdv driver, said we have an agreement that

(01:00:22):
she needed to make sure her partner was. Clean she lied,
here always use A wiener rapper and insisted THAT i
can trust. Her she did say that if she would get,
pregnant she would terminate, Immediately so you'd have to be
a damn idiot to trust. This i'm going to talk
to a, LAWYER. Opi he, Said, YEAH i do feel
like an, idiot and you are. RIGHT i always trust
her BECAUSE i loved. Her but after, THIS i don't
even know WHAT i feel right. NOW i will think

(01:00:43):
about a divorce after getting myself. Tested thank you for your.
Advice we have an, update but let's uh just a
little bit. Longer do you think that everyone sucks here in?
THIS i would, say like Maybe opie didn't practice the,
most like saying judgment and like wasn't protecting himself the.
Most But i'm not quite sure if everyone did suck.

(01:01:07):
HERE i feel LIKE i hope he was trying to
see his carriage and like loved his.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
Wife definitely the wife, sucks oh you know HE i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Know it was sort of like you're.

Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
Giving a science exam and you haven't like studied, science
you're gonna do. Horribly and that's what it was done.
Here who knew THAT i had to prepare, for you,
know my wife GETTING STDs AND i had to figure
out all these backup plans and be put on the
spot by my sister in. Law like in that, moment
you don't really know what to. Do so that's why

(01:01:39):
you're going to. REDDIT i think he's not the a.
Hole he figured it. Out there's some things that are
basic common knowledge where you like you, know you try
and figure like you know you're you're giving to this
and all. That we'll stick at this update.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Here, Date my wife twenty nine just admitted cheating on
me AND i am Getting i'm on the a hole
IF i wanted to. Leave oh, my, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Not that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Goney six months, AGO i had some mental and medical
problems that prevented me from having spicy sleep. With she
convinced me to get into an open, marriage and she
had it for two months until two weeks. Ago she
suddenly wanted to be intimate, again and WHEN i, refused
she got angry and. LEFT i couldn't contact her for
a whole week until her sister, called accusing me of

(01:02:23):
having an affair and giving HER. STDs i immediately went
to the doctor and it was confirmed THAT i didn't have.
IT i tried to contact her sister, again BUT i
was blocked by all her. Family two days, ago she
drove home for the first time to visit our, son
who's a, toddler whom she had abandoned with me for
more than a.

Speaker 6 (01:02:41):
Week.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Oh we sat down and. Talked she admitted she had
known this person for three weeks BEFORE i agreed to
open the. Relationship, oh all, right this was. Planned as was.
PLANNED i asked her about THE std that her sister
told me, about and her face turned. PALE i had
to urge her a few times until she admitted that
she has and that the other partner had lied to

(01:03:05):
her about his medical condition and protection, methods and he
had already cut off contact with. Her. DAMN i asked
her if she knew and wanted to infect me that.
Day she was silent for a few minutes until she
burst into tears and begged me to forgive, her saying
it was just a foolish. Thought in a panic and,
FEAR i lost my temper and yelled at her and

(01:03:28):
punted her out of a. HOUSE i, said We're. John
i'm feeling so many, emotions heartbreak or. ANGER i don't
know what to feel, anymore but it's so. PAIN i
was with her for eight, years AND i thought we
would be together. Forever my in laws and our mutual
friends all sent me a bunch of messages telling me
to forgive, her and that she knew she was wrong

(01:03:49):
and already had gotten the. KARMA i should think about
my son and how difficult it would be IF i
wanted to get custody of, him and they were. RIGHT
i no longer have contact with relatives or ANYONE i
FEEL i could rely. On SO i feel very. Hopeless
what SHOULD i? Do CAN i forgive her after all
these years and start? Again there's an edit, here oh.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
Man but the part in vows and sickness and, HEALTH
i think that was broken because whenever you were, sick
you weren't able to satisfy all of her needs in that,
moment and she went and betrayed you in that, way,
RIGHT i think this is a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Rap didn't help his, Sickness she.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
Didn't she forced him into an open marriage and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Then added more, sickness or tried to add more, Sickness.

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
AND i think that is just wrong in a lot
of ways at this. POINT i, MEAN i. Wouldn't not
only did she, cheat she planned to infect you with
a disease so she could plan it on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
You mm, HMM i don't.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
KNOW i i'd call it a rap at this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
POINT i don't see how the family or the, friends
LIKE i see what they're where they're. Coming obviously they're
trying to salvage this for the person they care, About
but saying that she already had her. Karma no she. Didn't,
okay she made. Me she got a consequence from sleeping
around and.

Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
She got caught AND i got a little. Embarrassed yees, Did.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
But she didn't have any karma for trying to INFECT
op and her. Husband there's no, no, no, no no.
No there is no accountability here. Whatsoever so here's the.
Edit sorry for some DETAIL i did not clarify in
my old. POST i made it WHEN i didn't remember
the full details about what my sister in law tussed

(01:05:26):
me BECAUSE i was shocked about my wife GETTING. STDs
i did bring that to my wife in the, conversation
and she admitted she did lie to her family THAT
i cheated on. Her some comments and uh from here's FOR.
Opi her sister did text me with an, apology but that's.
It the other is they will just text something LIKE
i know you're very hurt right, now but your son
needs his mom and she's in very remorseful right. Now

(01:05:48):
please give her a chance to make it. RIGHT i
didn't answer any of. That it made me feel anger
every TIME i looked at.

Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
It update, Two oh my, gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
My wife twenty nine admitted she's cheating on me twenty
seven and GETTING i want a hole IF i wanted
to leave sixteen days. Later so this is a whole
two weeks in. Change we've had time. Here so first of,
all thank you for anyone who gave me good advice
and kind. Words i'm very appreciative of. Support now to my,

(01:06:18):
update my wife and me are separating. Now i'm currently
hiring a part time nanny to take care of my
son While i'm at. Work and even THOUGH i already
cut back my, WORKOUT i did find a lawyer to
advised me about the divorce procedure and WHAT i would
lose after the. Divorce he also SAID i needed to
collect more evidence that my wife really wanted to infect, me,
though WHICH i think is quite hard because she doesn't

(01:06:39):
want to talk about. It the charges we, made such
as abandonment or adultery seem like they might not work.
Either my wife has started visiting our son four times
a week. Now she acts like a good mother and
expects me to do couple's. Therapy her treatment is. Complete
she said that she already closed the marriage from her
side and is willingly setting the post. Up, however IF

(01:07:01):
i want to give her the. Chance her family is
still texting about how her days are miserable without me
and our. CHILD i kind of ignore. THEM i didn't
block them in case things break. Down SO i still
have a. Wreck that's my. Update i'm still getting used
to the lifestyle of just me and my. CHILD i
have agreed to marriage counseling with her This, saturday THOUGH
i don't think it will change, anything and that's the

(01:07:22):
end of the. STORY i don't think it's gonna change anything.
EITHER i think she's already broken that. Trust she's not
remorseful that she did. It she's remorseful she got. Caught,
yeah she's remorseful of what she's gonna. Lose she already
abandoned you and your kid for a. Week, yeah she
already tried to infect. You she already opened the marriage.
Once who's to say she's not gonna do it again
less things settled.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Down mm.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
Hmm. Ridiculous

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