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00:02:22 - r/trueoffmychest - I saw my husband and my sister naked in my kitchen
00:12:32 -r/comfortlevelpod - AITA for telling my MIL I’m not inviting her family to my wedding
00:20:27 - r/AmITheAsshole - AITA for refusing to complete payment on my bestfriend's wedding?
00:34:04 - r/comfortlevelpod - Toxic parents-in-law. Where do I go from here?
00:40:01 - r/comfortlevelpod - AITA for telling my best friend’s potential new girlfriend she was unhealthy and to be careful.
00:52:05 - r/AmITheAsshole - AITA for giving a friend a bill after hosting him?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og
okay Storytime podcast host, and we got some great stories
coming up. Before that, we have a quick two minute
break from the sponsors that keep the show a lot.
So John, it's dump them week, which means we're gonna
be taking out some trash at least emotionally speaking.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh yes, Sam, we have stories this week that will
make you say farewell the toxic relationship and hello to
red Flag for you living.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Speaking of hello, if you're new here looking for the
first story in this series titled my husband cheated but
he has cancer?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Should I stay?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Just click the link in the show notes slash description
or search dump him week, Okay story Time wherever you
get your podcasts.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
All right, let's get in today's story.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
I call my husband cheating with my sister in the
kitchen that I paid for.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I feel like there's a cook.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
I can't move. If I move, it becomes real and
I have to accept what I saw and think of
what's next. I came home from work early and saw
my sister's car, thinking maybe she was dropping off some
food from her job.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
But no.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
I walk in and I see my husband and sister
in nick in the kitchen, the kitchen that I pay for.
By the way, this comes from cheaters Suck twelve on
the r slash Okay storytime, supread it. As soon as
I registered what I saw, I got into my.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Car and left.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I kept driving, just driving, driving, driving, until I found
the hotel I'm at now.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
I don't want to believe it. I don't know what
to do.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
My sister, my only family, my best friend, the one
who's supposed to be there for me and support me,
my husband, my person, and my other half, the one
who's supposed to love and respect me. The two most
important people in my life have ruined everything.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
I've blocked them both on my phone.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I don't want to hear any of the bs excuses
that they'll come up with. I don't want to confront this.
I want to go back to this morning when everything
was fine. There are comments already. X MC says, unblock
them and just let their calls go to voicemail. Turn
the ringer off for each of them in your contacts.
That way you can get recorded proof of their apologies
and excuses via voicemail. You may need that type of

(02:01):
proof for your divorce. That's a good point nine to
day is croak. If they leave voicemails, Opie will still
have those saved under blocked messages.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
At least I know that is how it is with iPhone.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Just in case op may feel like they need to
keep them blocked for their own mental health. I feel
like if it was me personally, I.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Would need to And there is another update.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Sorry for not replying to comments and not updating if
things have been hectic. I didn't think I needed to
explicitly say this, but they were butt nikki and effing
in the kitchen. I admit mentioning that I paid for
the kitchen was odd and kind of funny, But anyone
that knows me knows that the kitchen is my pride
and joy. So yes, when I saw my sister and
my husband efing in my kitchen, it stuck with me,

(02:42):
and yes they did see me. When I got to
the hotel, I cried for a few hours, and then
I just wanted to tell someone, anyone. The two people
I would talk to when something happened in my life
were the two I needed to talk about.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
And it was.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Eleven something in the evening, so I wasn't going to
disrupt my friend's evenings and burden them. So instead I
came to read it, thinking not many people would see it.
The response I received was overwhelming. I want to say
thank you to everyone that sent me kind words and advice.
Thank you so much for all the virtual hugs. I
only commented once, that is because I had so much
to think about and do. I appreciate all the love

(03:17):
and support. There was so much amazing advice given in
the comments. Although a lot of it was American based,
I still appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
But one thing I did see.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
A lot was to unblock them and keep the text
and calls as evidence.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
So I did do that.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Nice after posting and another good cry, I knew that
I had to get my crap together and I didn't
have my sister or family to help, so I had
to do it myself. I started researching what my next
steps were. In the morning, my friend called me saying
my sister contacted her wondering if I had been in
contact with the friend. I told her what happened, and
she very kindly offered her spare room and her day

(03:51):
off work to help me sort stuff out. That's a
good friend, right there, friend. I called in sick. My
job and my friend helped get things done. I got
in contact with my friend who works at a bank,
and she helps me start sorting my financials. My friend
also found me a lawyer to consult with. After my
phone consolation with the lawyer, I was so overwhelmed. I

(04:12):
now know why so many women don't divorce their cheating husbands.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Dang, just because of the paperwork.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, it's such a lengthy, expensive and emotionally draining process.
I fortunately make a stable income and can support myself,
and we fortunately don't have kids. I have to remember
that things aren't going.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
To happen in one day. It will all take time.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
As for the house, unfortunately, his parents bought it for us,
and to be honest, after what I saw, I don't
want it. I will try to get reimbursed from my
beloved kitchen, otherwise it can burn for all I care.
This has been super draining, but I knew I had
to talk to them. I already knew that there was
no coming back for my husband, and when I checked
his messages, they said exactly what I thought they would say.

(04:52):
I'm sorry, it's not what it looks like. We didn't
mean for it to happen. Please come home, I love you,
blah blah blah, just absolute b s. A small part
of me thought maybe I could find it in me
to forgive my sister, as we only have each other,
But after I opened her messages, all hope was lost.
She used the same excuses we heard our father use

(05:13):
when he cheated on our mother. She said the same
things our mother would say when she would excuse her
dad's behavior. I spoke to her this morning and asked
her to tell me straight up, who, what, where, when
and why. She told me back in July, when I
went on a girl's trip, she was at her house
and joked to my husband that I would cheat on
him on the girl's.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Trip because that's what always happens. He said nah, And.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
They joked about it, but she said he could even
get with her, and they ended up doing it once
one time, led to two to three, then to whenever
they could. There was never any evidence or signs or
anything that I was going to or even thinking of cheating.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
This is all off of like a hypothetical joke slash stereotype,
you know, of like what happens and then she's nah.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Think she wanted him and try to find a way
to get him.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I told her we were done and there is nothing
she could do to bring us back together.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
I later received a call from an unknown number. Spooky.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
It was my mother, who I haven't spoken to in
seven years.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Oh my gosh, this is getting juicy.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Turns out my sister had been in contact with her
and told her what had happened, and my pos mother
had the audacity to say, this is what I get
for taking.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Her daughters away from her girl.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
What this has opened up family drama?

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Oh my goodness, it hurts so much.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I know things are going to get messier and this
is going to be a long few years. I've now
lost all my blood relations. I need to get all
my crap and find a new place.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
I want to show.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Them that I can and will thrive without them again.
Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for
all the love and advice, And to all the people
in the comments saying that they could relate to me,
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
We need to like debrief that for just a second.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
That is wild that you know the two people you're
having your life did this. It seems like everyone's owning
up to doing it. But bringing your mom back into this,
this mom was as person.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
And then that also almost brings me to my point
with like the last story that we read where it's like,
you know, the sister is cheating or like you know,
being a homewrecker or whatever, and the dad also cheated
and then the mom defended it.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
So it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, it makes sense that that sister would think like, oh,
it's not that bad because like they were fine, you
know what I mean, when meanwhile, the other sister is like, hang.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
On, yeah, that's that's crazy, but there aren't some relevant comments,
so let's get on into it. That is crazy, says,
your sister basically instigated the whole thing, and you had
best believe this was very intentional on her part. She
waited until you were gone and then went around to
your husband and.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Told him that you would cheat on him, and he
was stupid enough to go along with it. I'm not
condoning your husband at all. He's definitely trash, but your
sister is definitely the worst here. You sound like you
have great friends around you, and I hope that you
can get in for some therapy as well. As this
level of betrayal is huge and devastating. Make sure you
tell everyone exactly what happened and shame both of them.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
No one will think the worst of you. They will
see them for the disgusting a holes they both are.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Oh and there's an update. There's an update number two.
Oh my goodness. I actually forgot about this account until recently.
When I longed back in, I saw so many people
still commenting, messaging me, and checking up on me.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yet, to those people, thank you for your kindness.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Since so many of you still ask for an update,
and I've already shared such a big part.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Of my life, I may as well give a small update.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Back in October, my life was in chaos, but I
was determined to soldier through it and show them that
I can make it without them and sex seed. I
had to meet with my ex to talk about the
house and he kind of gave up and we decided
to sell the house.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
I was reimbursed from my beloved kitchen.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
At first, my sister would show up at my job
and maybe friend's house, and once I told her that
I would get the police involved.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
She stopped.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
I haven't seen her since February.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I did hear from my pathetic excuse of a mother again,
but that was also shut down and I have not
heard from her since the end of last year. I'm
from New Zealand, so my ex and I have to
be living separately for two years before we can divorce.
Although I want nothing to do with him, I'm not
too fussed. One year is almost done. But we wouldn't
be too fussed if you joined us live on YouTube

(09:30):
and on Facebook and on TikTok every single week day
three pm PSD.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Just hop our profile. That's all I gotta do.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
She got reversed for the kitchen.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
W's she got the money back for the kitchen that
was the crime.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Scene of this whole thing.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
That's right, that's awesome, and her beloved, her beloved kitchen.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
But OHP has a little bit left. So let's see.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
I started therapy, which has been healing. I wish I
had gone earlier. I have moved into my apartment and
was promoted at work. I have also gone on two
girls trips and have some extra fun these times as
I was a single woman, and I've also just started
seeing someone. He has been very kind. Thank you again

(10:11):
for all your kindness. Hope this is an update you
were waiting for and there is a quick comment additional
Way one three four six says I'm glad you updated,
You're happier. Never introduced the man to your family. Wouldn't
put it past your sister to repeat her behavior. Cutting
the toxic people in your life brings so much mental freedom.
Living a happy single life after divorce is kindness to yourself.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Best update so far, and that's, my friends, is the
end of that story.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
So I'm just so glad for op me too. I
think you handle things great. You are surviving and thriving
living your life.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
My mother in law spread lies about me, so I'm
going no contact with her.

Speaker 8 (10:51):
Mama, Why you lion, Why.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
You always lie in? My partner male twenty six and
I female twenty two have been engaged for about a
year and a half. We have spoken about wedding plans,
but my partner's mother has been more than disagreeable about
what we want, who we invite, so forth and so forth.
By the way, this comes from Accomplished Sale three twenty
eight on the r slash Ookey storytime suffered it. So

(11:15):
she has made numerous comments about inviting her whole family
extended and beyond, while I was only inviting close family parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents,
while she was adding family friends their children, even though
we want a child free wedding. I could go on,
but her guest list was over twice the amount of

(11:35):
my family. With the small intimate venue we want, her
guests would mean we weren't able to invite friends. She
made comments to me that she was paying for the
people she wanted and if I wanted more family or friends,
then my parents can pay for them. Okay, I think
you guys just need to have a longer talk about
what your expectations for this wedding are. When we went home,

(11:57):
I told my partner that he should be inviting the
people he actually wants to be there. In their family,
there is numerous family members that they consider dead to them. Oh,
they constantly have issues with family members who go too
far and they won't speak for months years, and there's
a lot of hostility. Anyways, my partner and I went
over to the in law's home for family gathering. I

(12:18):
was sitting outside with my partner's grandmother and his mom
while he was inside with his dad, and they asked
me about wedding plans and asked me about what family
I was inviting. I told him I was only inviting
family members that were consistent in my life, and I
wouldn't want my partner or my mother demanding I invite
people I haven't seen since I was a child. They

(12:38):
collectively told me that their family though, and I should
invite them. I replied that it's my family and it's
my choice, and that my partner gets the same from me.
If he didn't want to invite certain family members, then
that's his choice, and I wouldn't force him to invite
anyone he didn't want. On our way home, my partner
received a phone call from his mother. She was in
a full meltdown to telling him that his grandmothers are

(13:02):
furious with me because I told them that I'm not
inviting them to the wedding. Ooh. My partner said that
I would never say that, and he doesn't understand what
she would be talking about. And then she tells him
that she was there when I said it, and the
grandmothers both heard it too, and why would they be
lying for context. I don't really drink, so I was
sober while they had two bottles of champagne a bottle

(13:24):
of wine and some other drinks.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
We arrived home and I was confused on what they
could have been talking about. I told him everything I
remembered of the conversation and said maybe me saying that
it's up to him on who he invited could have
been misinterpreted. He called his mother and explained what I
told him. She doubled down and says she knows what
I said, and I wasn't welcome back in her home
until I apologized to her and the grandmothers.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
WHOA, it's so much drama. Didn't the sun already tell
him like, yeah, don't invite everyone?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (13:56):
No, I mean it doesn't seem like anyone said that
the mother in law came to invite all of these people,
just that Opee wouldn't be doing the same.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, very strange.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
The phone was on loud speaker and I had stayed quiet,
but in a moment of anger, I spoke up to
say that I never said anything like that, and I
don't even have an issue with the grandmother's being invited
as long as my partner actually wanted them there. So
why would I have said such a thing? She screamed
back into the phone, clearly upset or crying that I
was calling her and the grandmother's liars.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
Are they still a little crunky?

Speaker 5 (14:29):
They're still a little cranky.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
I would be like, we should have this conversation when
you guys are not in this state. Yeah, you need
to eat some food, need some grandma.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
My partner believes me. He doesn't think I would say
such a heinous thing and knows that I don't have
an issue with his grandmother's being invited to the wedding.
I only had an issue with all the extra extended
family that he doesn't get along with being invited by
his mother's demands. But he thinks I should just apologize
because his mother will hold a grudge. So am I
the a hole for telling my mother in law I

(15:00):
won't be inviting her family? And should I just apologize
to keep the peace and edit. While my partner was
on the phone to mother in law explaining the situation,
I chimed in and told her what I remembered. I
didn't call anyone a liar, but I tried to politely
tell her that maybe they misinterpreted what I had said.
She said that I've verbatim told the grandmother they aren't

(15:21):
invited to the wedding because I didn't want them there.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
WHOA no, which is not true. You didn't say that.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
You never said that. But there is an update to
finish this story off. But what do we do here?

Speaker 8 (15:31):
I think one, apologize just I know you don't want
to apologize, but like, before things get more tense, I guess, Okay,
I'm sorry. This is definitely miscommunicated. You're assuming something I
said something, and now you're putting wizard in my mouth. Yeah,
let's start fresh here before this gets way more tense,
before this starts ruining relationships.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
And maybe it's just you go to her and you
say like, hey, I'm so sorry that that's what you thought.
I said.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
Yeah, but have your fiance, because you aren't married yet,
your fiance there and be like, let's settle this.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Your fiance needs to back you up a little bit more.

Speaker 8 (16:04):
Yeah, especially because one again, the conversation is not a
great state for the grandma and the mother in law
to be in to have this conversation. I think you'd
be like, all right, let's actually have a star fresh. Hey,
this is what I said. I know you think I
said this, but this is what I said. I want
to make it clear.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
I want you all to come to the wedding. Yes,
we just have limits on how many people can come.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (16:24):
This was like a double not necessarily double standard. It
was just like both my fiance and I agreed to this. Yes,
and if he's there, like, yes, mom, we agreed to this.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
I think the husband, oh, he's partner, just needs to
be more active in this conversation.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
I would say I'm sorry, but but I'm not. Don't
jump to conclusions here.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Yeah, but there's an update. Partner had to go to
mother in law's house to collect some things. Mother in
law was fairly again oh, and began arguing with him.
He can't remember all the things she said, but here's
what he does. Remember. She called me a liar, a
be a lling c that I'm trying to take him
away from his family, a selfish. He didn't argue with her,

(17:02):
left the room, got what he needed to collect, and
then got in his car and drove home. At this point,
I wouldn't invite her to the wedding. Yeah, at this point,
now she's not she can't come to the wedding.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
Now she's doubling down.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Yeah, now she's just being really awful.

Speaker 8 (17:14):
Yeah, for no reason, But why didn't the sun Like
I kind.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Of wait, wait, I honestly kind of understand why he didn't,
because it's kind of engaging with a person who is
just so out of it and not even gonna yeah this,
like screaming at him, and he's like, you know what,
just gonna leave, not even gonna talk to her.

Speaker 8 (17:33):
Yeah, I gave you the light of day.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah bye.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
But I'd really worried that if she drinks at this
wedding that she would act like this. So I don't
know if she should come to the wedding anymore.

Speaker 8 (17:42):
This is the second strike, a second strike.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
I don't know if we give her a third.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
I don't think we should.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
She proceeded to constantly call him while he was driving,
so he didn't answer. When he got home, his dad
called him. From what I understood, his dad told him
that he needs to fix things with his mom and
his grandmother's and the only way to do that is
for me to admit what I did and apologize.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
Oh my goodness, uh yeesh.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
My partner said that I will not be apologizing to
his mom after the way she disrespected me in front
of him.

Speaker 8 (18:10):
There we go there you go now he's standing up
for you.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah, and that they can lose his number until she's
ready to apologize to me, But he makes no promises
that I will forgive her. Me and him, I've spoken
and we have decided to postpone any wedding plans until
we're both in bettermental spaces since the last eight months
have been painful and stressful. He's going no contact with
mother in law and father in law now as he
realized that father in law is enabling her. Partner. Is

(18:35):
apologized to me for suggesting I apologize to her, as
he didn't realize how far she had actually gone. Yeah,
but you can go far with us by joining us
live every weekday at three pmvs. Two just to have
our profile Staastafi, there is a little bit more. Yeah,
I done inviter, don't invite her. I think it's a
great idea to also postpone the wedding because it seems
like a lot's going on in.

Speaker 8 (18:56):
Their lives and you want to do this with a
clear head.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
You want it to be like a great day, not
where you worried about your mother and your father being awful.

Speaker 8 (19:02):
Good on both of you, like we should postpone it.
Let's get a clearer mindset. We want this to be
the best day ever. And that's fair.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
It just and put it.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Your mother and your father the worst.

Speaker 8 (19:14):
To be cut out. But I mean you it was
said earlier. Yeah, they just cut ties with a lot
of family members, so.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Sometimes you gotta do it. Yeah, but there's a little
bit left to the story. He has received some messages
from her, apologizing and asking him if he's gonna be
coming to her birthday. He didn't respond, and then she
sent messages saying about how little time his dad has left.
What's happening with his dad? Do we learn that he
was sick?

Speaker 8 (19:37):
Don't use as I go?

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Yeah, why are you trying to guilt trip him? And
he shouldn't want to be on these terms when the
time comes. Her most recent message was her telling him
that she paid fifteen hundred dollars off a bill he
had that was delivered to her house, followed by the
words I know you probably don't care, but your dad
and I do so much for you. Thankfully. He's staying
very strong and said he will not be entertaining her

(19:59):
until she admits to lying and apologizes to me and
sets the story straight with the rest of the family.
Good on Opie's partner for holding.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
His ground, Good on the fiance. Great on fiance. I'd
call her out like, how dare you use dad's life Yeah,
as like a weapon, Yeah, to.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Try and guilp me into talking to you guys who
have been mistreating me. Yeah, and my partner.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
You don't get to act like that and still come
to the wedding.

Speaker 8 (20:23):
Yeah, the fact that choose the rules.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
But that's the end of that story.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
My best friend suddenly ended our friendship, so I refuse
to pay for the wedding cost, even though I promised.
Amy and I a both twenty six female, have been
friends for almost twenty years. Dude, longtime friendship, and until
a couple of months ago, I would have said our
friendship was bulletproof. I would lie if I said we
haven't had our disagreements or arguments, but we have always

(20:47):
been on the best terms through it all, and none
of those have lasted more than a week before we would.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Talk it out.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Oh that's really nice, right, But it comes from Liz
Liswig on the r shashow. Okay, three times that read it.
So last summer she got engaged. She asked me to
be her maid of honor. I said yes and offered
to pay for all the floor arrangements and bachelor laurette
party favors for her.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Wedding coming in November.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
The deal we came to was that the budget for
the flowers and the favors was four grand tops, and
we would put it on her fiance's card and I
would make the payments. She made the initial transaction for
most of the things that I bought for her during
the spring, about thirty seven hundred dollars. During summer break,
my girlfriend and I took a trip to see her
family out of the country, so we had to quarantine.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Before and after travel.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
This made it so I didn't really see Amy for
almost one and a half months. We texted here and there,
and I didn't really notice anything weird going on because
I've been so busy with the new school year. But
a couple of weeks ago, it dawned on me that
Amy was hard on ghosting me and it had started
to affect me. I wonder why, what's going on? My

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girlfriend and my therapist recommended that I ask her about
it because it wasn't healthy for it to be affecting
me so much, so I sent her a text asking
her what's up, and she responded saying, I'm done with
our friendship.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
No context, just like I'm done.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
No, are you kidding me? I'm done over. Get out
of my face. Okay.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
This caught me off guard and I called her, but
she didn't respond. I drove to her house and asked
for an explanation, and she basically said that our friendship
consisted mainly on her doing things for me. Her coldness
is what hurt me the most. She added that I
wouldn't be her maid of honor anymore. I was only
invited to the bachelorette party, and that only because of
our families being friends. I was still invited to the wedding.
I asked her what made her be this rash, and

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she said that this has been on her mind for
a while. As much as it hurts me, I get
her wanting a clean breakup, and even though I feel
like there's more, she isn't telling me.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
It's not my place to pry.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
After that convo, I reflected on our friendship and I
recognize I did ask her for favors and more than
she did for me. And even if I didn't go
about it that way, it's not my place to dictate
how she felt about it, Okay, I mean, I guess
if you're me, yeah, maybe you do a lot of
favors for her, but also or she does.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
A lot of favors for you. But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
You were down to pay thirty seven hundred bucks and
organize this thing.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
I don't know if that's fair to you, magre my bro.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I bolted off crying, and after a couple of days
I apologized to her and she said she accepted it,
but her decision was final. I then told her that
I get it, but I would stop making payments going forward.
She flipped and called me an, ungrateful, jealous b and
I should be paying for those things as reparations, reparations
for what my mom told me that I had made

(23:29):
a promise to Amy and I need to see it through.
I am sorry to leave twenty five hundred plus dollars
in outstanding payments to her and her fiance, but I
really don't know what to do. So am I the
ahle whoa? Okay, so there is an update, so stick
around for that. But so basically, going back, I mean, dude,
she's not even telling you why. You don't even know,

(23:50):
like what's happening here. So like I would say, if
you did have such a close friendship, then it's like, hey,
look I understand, But like if I don't even get
to know what why you don't want to be friends anymore,
it's like, then what are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
I don't know. I guess maybe conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
She tried to use her for the money, but that's correct,
like thirty seven in the grand scheme of things, thirty
seven hundred dollars is a lot of money. But in
the grand scheme of things, just like doing all this
stuff for thirty seven hundred dollars, like that would be
so whack.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
And insane if that's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
But we're gonna keep going because we got this up
before I get to the rundown of how that crap
went down. A couple of things. Yes, I will look
into building my credit. A gas card seems like a
good start. But thanks for all the advice, I'll make
sure to take it. I have an amazing support system
who stuck by my side, including my brother, my girlfriend,
and my best friend from college who when I asked
her if I asked for too many favors, told me

(24:41):
straight to my face, Op, I can't remember a single
favor you ever, asked me? Like, what is this favors thing? Like,
I mean, yeah, you can. You can abuse your your
your friendship by you know, asking for too much.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I don't, I don't know. It's where are the favors? Then?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Where are the favors that were asked? Seems like there
weren't really many any now to the Jews. We met
at a local outdoor cafe. My girlfriend came with me
and refused to leave my side, and Amy came alone.
As soon as we sat down, I knew she was
going to ask me for the money. After service pleasantries,
She fall and asked me to continue with the payments
and that her dad would reimburse me.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
When he gets his Christmas bonus. Yeah right, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
My girlfriend and I had talked beforehand about a request
of the sort, so I told Amy I couldn't do
that unless she is willing to put it in writing
for my protection. She scoffed and mentioned the reparations line again.

Speaker 8 (25:30):
For what for what there is?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
You've literally told us nothing? I calmly as I read
this out loud to my girlfriend. She said, I was
deaf about to cry. Lil asked her about what I
had done that was so atrocious that I had to
pay back for. Turns out me always calling her to
hang out, accepting her offer to dog sit before my
puppy passed, and asking her to always call me a
cab when Uber banned me. That's another story was her

(25:56):
definition of too much for her. God, even though I
had thought more of those things to throw up my face,
but she couldn't even bother to make it believable.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, exactly, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
After some back and forth, she finally said that it
was because I had abused her into becoming my friend.
I was surprised by this, mainly because we met in
first grade, but she explained that when I came out,
I always made everything about me and my struggle and woe.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Was me as a sad queer. Oh dude.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
This made my girlfriend livid, so she intervened for the
first time to tell her to watch her mouth, to
which Amy replied, it's pretty obvious, OPI dates you because
you look so much like me. At this comment, I
was pretty clear what many of y'all said, either she
has always been a homophobe or someone poisoned it for her,
because of course the gay girl is pining for her

(26:43):
bestiees not the case bestie. After all of this, I
told her she was not my type to consider herself lucky,
that I won't ask for my money back, and that
ghosting and nuke in the friendship just because is fed
up by the way, you know, it's never fed up
is joining our live stream every weekend at three pm
just because because why the frick not. But before we

(27:05):
finish out the story here, yeah, I think again, it
was obvious before the update that the friend was just
like making up some bs excuse just once the money,
and probably was horrible the whole time. But it was
the reality to storting glasses childhood friend. We've seen it
happen a trillion times here on the show. It sucks,
you know, but hey, what are you gonna do again?
I left crying. I kept crying on the way home,

(27:27):
and a couple more hours. I blocked her, and I
kindly let my mom know that if she ever mentions
Amy or anything to do.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
With all of this, I would cut her off for good.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I know the reason is still be yes, and I
may never know, but I am officially done with someone
who can be so hateful. As I lay in bed
after hours of sobbing, a cold shower, and coming to
terms with the end of the longest non familiar relationship
I have in my life, my girlfriend and I are
looking for vacation spots for the second week of November
for my brother, his girlfriend, and us.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
With that two thousand dollars we now have in our
extra budget, nearly.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
The best way to use it.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I want to thank everyone for the support and kind words.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Some of you have really given me food for thought,
and I never thought my story would reach so many.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Oh well, and.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Now you're an okay story time and you reach the world.
All's well, that endsil Yep, that feels good.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
That was good.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
I'm glad you figured that out. And you cut off
that friend, like come on, yeah, screwer, you got he
and friend. Try to take her to court.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Go ahead, do your best. Yeah yeah please? Uh uh.
She wanted to hang out with me. Run her so much.
He was so thirsty your honor. Here we go, here
we go, yep, sue her.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
She sues you reverse sue her mental damages Boom.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Got him love that mister Krabs money hands crams.

Speaker 8 (28:40):
I want to go no contact with my boyfriend's family
because they're toxic, but we live with them.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Ooh, that's tough. Maybe you can just give them the
silent treatment in the hallways.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
I twenty four female, have been in a relationship with
my boyfriend twenty six mail let's call him Brian, for
just over two and a half years now. By the way,
this comes from user Little Effective forty on the r
slash Okay Storytime subrenden. So we've had a pretty good relationship,
but I've struggled with how emotionally underdeveloped and non communicative
he can be.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
Sounds like a little baby.

Speaker 8 (29:12):
Little tight knit close family. We've been working together to
try to improve our communication and get him acclimated to
sharing his emotions and handling tough conversations. We are in
couple's therapy and he's been putting in good effort recently.
There's a lot of love in our relationship. I know
he loves me so much and he does treat me
very well. Our issues really just amount to communication related things.

(29:34):
As you can imagine, he is the way he is
because of how he was raised. His parents also have
very difficult traits like emotional immaturity, inability to take accountability
for anything hurtful they've said or done, the inability to
communicate in an honest way, and the inability to have
difficult or significant conversations. I'll also mention they are pretty

(29:54):
high functioning, like a bottle of wine per night is
the norm. This is how Brian grew up, so whenever
something hurtful is said or done, the norm is to
brush it off, not acknowledge it at all, and just
move on. As you can imagine, I can't operate like that,
which brings me to the event that triggered this situation.

(30:16):
I have lived with Brian at home his family's home
for the last year, primarily because Brian and I don't
make enough money to afford the ridiculous rent in our state.
A few weeks ago, late in the evening, like around
ten PM, my boyfriend's mom instigated a conflict with me
in Instagram DMS by responding to a story I had posted.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I wonder what it was.

Speaker 8 (30:35):
It was just some arbitrary thing about politics or the election.
In no way did it have anything to do with
her Brian's parents are very conservative and we've always had
a fundamental disconnect based on that. So Brian's mom starts
popping off in my DMS pretty hostily, coming at me
for my beliefs in a belittling and disrespectful way, completely unprovoked.

(30:56):
Obviously an appropriate thing to do to your son's girlfriend
who lives with you. Brian went to address his mom. Unsurprisingly,
he was met with nothing but defensiveness, lack of accountability,
and deflection. His parents pretty much at a united front
on everything, use this opportunity to tear into Brian about
all the things they take issue with about me. It

(31:18):
turned into a heated argument about how they've been taken
advantage of by me living with them, and how I
am ungrateful, don't contribute anything to the household, and am
cool to them. I could feel attention in the house
rising over the past couple months, with Brian's mom being
needlessly hostile or passive aggressive on several occasions, so hearing

(31:39):
these complaints felt like she was probably looking for any
excuse to shout them from the rooftop.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
Well, I mean, they said before that the parents have
a problem with taking accountability, so it seems like whenever
the fingers pointed at them, they're like, ah, it's not
my fault.

Speaker 8 (31:52):
I'm never wrong, And.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
So they're coming up with all of these excuses.

Speaker 8 (31:55):
It wasn't my fault. Before we go back this, what
would you do?

Speaker 5 (31:58):
I mean, the obvious solution is to move out, but
it seems like maybe for financial reasons they can't. Yeah, Unfortunately,
you'd kind of just have to figure out a way
to live with them. If you can't move out, I.

Speaker 8 (32:10):
Would try and find like maybe a sublet something like, oh,
especially since there's two of you, even a studio, which
but I would rather take a small studio rather than
living in a very hostile, hostile and very tense environment
where I'm being scrutinized. Yeah, and I can't. I would
be so uncomfortable. I would not even be able to sleep. Yeah,
if you don't have a good environment where you're living in,

(32:32):
because home is where the heart is.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Home is where the heart is, and there's no heart
in that home.

Speaker 8 (32:35):
There's no heart in that home. The simple fact is
that none of these complaints are true, and I'll address
them just so readers, have all the information been taken
advantage of, They graciously allowed me to live with them
and refused. Brian and Ice offered for financial support. So
again they're deflecting. How then can they turn around and
say we've taken advantage. Important to note that Brian's sister,

(32:56):
twenty five female, also still lives in the house rent free.
Ungrateful when they let me move in. I had a
heart to heart sit down with them to express how
eternally grateful I was that they allowed me to move in.
Tears were shed by all.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
It seems like they want you in debt to them, yeah,
so that they can then turn around and put it
on you.

Speaker 8 (33:17):
I feel like they're like, we have this over your head. Literally,
we have our roof over your head, and if we're
going to use this against you. I also express gratitude
for every meal they put on the table. His dad
loves to cook and makes dinner for everyone a few
times a week. Don't contribute. If we're talking money, yes,
because they told us we didn't have to pay anything
and never let us know if that stance has changed.
We followed up some months in instill nothing amounted. I

(33:39):
always clean up after myself, replace things I use, do
the dishes on a regular basis, do my own laundry,
buy my own toilet, paper, food supplies, walk slash, feed
the dogs, cook dinner for the family once in a while,
express gratitude for every meal put on the table, like
you said, and I'm always respectful. There's a long list.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Oh, he's doing the best they can.

Speaker 8 (33:58):
You're doing what you should be doing. Be just very grateful,
which it seems like I do more in the house
than both Brian and his sister. And this conversation would
never be happening to anyone but me.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Well, it's because you're not part of the family in
the same way, and you're there othering you.

Speaker 8 (34:13):
Again, they're just using anything they can against you. Cold
to them, I'm a naturally introverted person and I tend
to keep to myself and try not to disturb anyone
with my presence. This does not, however, prevent me from
greeting people, having nice conversations over dinner, talking about our days,
laughing together, and spending family time together here and there.
So this statement that I'm cold, sadly feels like a

(34:34):
huge over generalization that doesn't take into account any of
the positive contact we do have. With all these complaints
from Brian's parents attacks on my character and the intentional
disrespect displayed by his mom. I decided to leave Brian's
house and go stay at my mom's for a while.
With help from Brian and my therapist, we decided the
best path forward was for me to handwrite a letter

(34:55):
telling them how I feel. I did this, and it
resulted in a gently worded letter that expressed my discomfort
and also address their complaints. I made it all about
how I feel in a stept to make Brian's parents
feel any shred of humanity or empathy about all this.
As you can probably guess, they did not receive the letter.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Well, they send you another Instagram DM, did you start
as posting screenshots of the letter.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
They told Brian it was a combative and disrespectful and
that I was still ungrateful, even though there was a
part of the letter that thoughtfully restated how eternally grateful
I am for them letting me live with them and
generously declining our offer to pay. They want me to
sing their praises and address nothing else. This is obviously
how they have always functioned, and my existence challenges that.

(35:39):
I'm also well aware that people who have no accountability
will always take even gentle criticism as combative really quick.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
I don't think you can give not because you shouldn't,
but I don't think if you want your time to
be good and just easy, I don't think you can
give gentle criticism to people who are housing you for free. Yeah,
not because like they don't deserve it. I think they
do deserve it, and they seem kind of awful. But
I think that when you're living in the house rent free.

Speaker 8 (36:08):
That thing over your head that they have, they're just
that is going to be literally over you every single time,
and you cannot criticize. You can at least be you
respond to them like, hey, this is not right, but
calling them out again, you say, I got out of
that house.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
Yeah. I think once you're out of the house you
can call them out till the cows come home. But
right now, because you're still living in the house, it's like,
h yeah. It just makes everything really difficult for.

Speaker 8 (36:35):
You because at the end of the day, whatever you say,
you could have all the facts, you can literally have
all the proof.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
They don't care about the facts.

Speaker 8 (36:42):
They're not going to care. Yeah, which, but that's just
the facts. It's just the case here, Brian's mom very
clearly asserted that she did nothing wrong and that it's
pathetic I even left the house over this, and that
I should just be able to get over it, just
leave the house. So I'm in a classic case of
toxic parent and laws who don't respect me, my feelings,
my boundaries, or even their own son enough to not

(37:03):
treat their partner like crap. Brian is also too much
of a peace maker to set real boundaries with his
parents or competently defend me. Definitely has some unhealed childhood
trauma and residual fear of his parents, which I get now.
I'm just thinking, how can I go on to sign
up for a life with a family like this? How
can I expect that they will ever just magically start

(37:25):
respecting me? What will I have to deal with when
we get married or even have children. So I want
these kind of people being grandparents to my children. You
get the picture.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
I think it will greatly improve if you're not actively
living with them, they'll still probably be kind of key.

Speaker 8 (37:40):
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Speaker 5 (37:49):
I think bad in laws is a tale as old
as time. A lot of people have to deal with
bad in laws. I think the thing that you need
to look at is less your in laws and their
actions and more is your partner willing to stand up
for you and back you up, which it doesn't seem
like he is. It seems like he's more wanting to
be a peacemaker and not back you up.

Speaker 8 (38:10):
You can't baby that, so let's go and finish up
the story. I love Brian so much enough to not
want to immediately ender our relationship over this, despite how
upsetting and painful it is. The patience and optimism in
me hope something could improve, and that once we move out,
Brian would be able to develop the confidence and independence
from his parents that he's never had before. Should I
just find my own piece and let go of the

(38:31):
expectations of having a good relationship with them? I know
this kind of dynamic is so common, so I guess
I'm curious how other people deal with it. For others
who have had a similar experience, what did you do?
That's the end of the story. There's no update, nothing,
I think.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Now you are moved out, it will improve somewhat. You
might you know, not have the best of relationships with
your in laws ever. But there's no mirror that you
can put in front of them that help them recognize
what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (38:57):
Yeah, they'll never be wrong.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
But that's the end of that story.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I told my best friend's new girlfriend that my best
friend was emotionally on the table.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Now she's furious with me.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Oh, a little crazy and a memory.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Let me apologize in advance. For how long this will be?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I twenty seven female, was friends with Meredith twenty six
females since college.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
We met our freshman year twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
We're roommates junior and senior year, and then became roommates
one year after graduation. By the way, this comes from
Cloudy Woody on the our side. Okay, storytime, Stobert. So,
Meredith is one of the most loving people I know.
She's funny, smart, talented. She supported me through an abusive
four year relationship and during that fallout when it ended.
When I came out as bisexual two years later, she

(39:38):
gave me pride flags and helped me find the words
to tell people about my girlfriend.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
Oh, sweet Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
She was the first person I called crying. When it
later ended, she referred to me as her soulmate example
the Christina Yang to her Meredith Gray. I met Izzie
at work and we quickly became friends. Meredith and I
were apartment hunting and moved into the same apartment building
as Izzy.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
We started hanging out.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
All the time, and this was in the beginning of
the pandemic, and living a floor two away from each
other led to many late night conversations, labs and sharing
fears as he worked through the crazy.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Vid uh oh, get those claws off of me crabs.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Slowly, Meredith and I became best friends, and Izzy in
her later roommate CALLI. So fast forward to June of
twenty twenty three. So it's the four of us now
as best friends. So Me twenty seven female, Meredith, the
og friend twenty six female, Isy twenty eight female, and
Calli twenty eight female. Meredith comes to my apartment and
tells me she has big news. She's been struggling for
over a year. She's in love with Izzy. I mean,

(40:34):
wait this win for a ride, boy, as long as
she's about it, I told her I wasn't surprised. I
saw how they were together. What surprised me was she
moved into Izzy's house in twenty twenty two knowing she
was in love with her.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
The only problem is he straight?

Speaker 6 (40:50):
How did we turn her?

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Dude? Just be hot, be so hot, You're undeniable.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
So back to the story.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Meredith spent the next couple of myn relaying all the
reasons she believed Izzy was actually a lesbian uh oh,
going so far as to send me the lesbian Google
doc on compulsory heterosexuality and pointing out all the things
that Izzy does. I repeatedly told her I understood where
she was coming from, but she felt she needed to
tell Izzy how she felt. Despite seeing the signs that

(41:19):
Meredith was seeing, Izzy's sexuality was her own to decide.
Meredith did eventually tell Izzy how she felt, and Izzy
told her.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
It wasn't reciprocated. That's always hate that dude. It's tough man.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Meredith asserted Izzy could take all the time she needed
to figure things out. After this, I met with Izzy
for breakfast and we talked about her feelings. She affirmed
that she believed she was straight, but conceded she understood
how she could see where Meredith was coming from. They
split all the household chores, cuddled on the couch, took
vacations together. But she stood firm.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
But she was straight.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Okay, I love my homies, and me and John due
like cut on the couch here and there when his
girlfriend's on around.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Oh ay yo, Look if we were doing that all
the time, dude, I as well.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Just too much, bro I told Izzy she needed to
express to Meredith how she felt, and they needed boundaries
between one another to help preserve their friendship.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Meredith was devastated.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
We texted a lot during this time, and she vented
a lot, sometimes not speaking so highly of Iusy. In
one instance, Meredith shared with me an argument they had
about their lawnmower that left them both in tears.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Oh no, that shouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
While trying to let her feel her feelings, I also
needed to stick up for Izzy.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
When the venting turned into mean comments.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
About Izzy's character, I called Izzy to check on her,
which backfired. During the conversation, I didn't discuss the fight
I knew about, but made small talk and asked her
if she wanted to hang out. So Meredith became angry
because now is he might infer I knew they fought.
Oh yeah, because now Opie let Meredith vent to her
all the time, But now she could turn around and
be like, I was complaining to op and OPI knows

(42:50):
how terribly you are. No, look, I've been texting her.
I was complaining to op and OPI knows how terribly
you are. Look, I've been texting.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Her, how weaponizing, weaponizing when I would be just trying
to listen to her, but put what the heck, dude,
I know, just because you're heart does.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Mean you have to hurt others exactly, but her people
hurt people. Dude, It's sad, just like bucket ooh nice
po po.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Ultimately, I got the impression that they didn't want my
input but wanted event they both apologized for putting me
in the middle of the situation. All during this time,
they still lived with another and continue to travel and
do activities as friends. In August, all four of us
went to a beach vacation that started the beginning of
the end. I won't go into it too much, but
one night Meredith got drunk and spend the night crying

(43:35):
about Izzy in the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
While Calli was consoling her.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Izzy came to me that night and asked me about
my journey in finding my sexuality.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
If I can't get her, oh my gay you.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
That would be crazy. Oh no.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
She shared that she was looking back in her past
actions and her upbringing and how she was beginning to
consider that she might be clear. I told her instead
of focusing on trying to label herself perfectly, to try
and focus on how she felt about Meredith and start there.
I told her I loved her and whatever she decided
to do that I would be there for her. That night,
Meredith drank excessively, again giving easy drinks, and ultimately attempted

(44:10):
to leave the group to walk twelve blocks back to
the car to drive us back to the hotel at
two am.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Wow weird.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
We got into a heated argument in the street and
I tried to stop her, and Calli, while trying to
diffuse the situation, also ended up arguing with Meredith.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
We all walked back to the hotel in tears.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
The next morning, Meredith stated her actions or reactions were
rooted in her problems with hyper independence. Whatever that means,
here's where I might be the ahle, though I had
a conversation with Izzy about Meredith. I told Izzy to
be careful because Meredith's actions over the summer, culminating the
previous night were unhealthy. I said, I was concerned about
her excessive use of drinking and excessive use of the

(44:49):
Devil's let us to cope with her emotions, and because
they lived together, it would be a very precarious situation,
which I think is all fair advice to be given.
I told her I was concerned about potential love bombing.
When Meredith found out that Izzy did reciprocate, she stopped
doing a lot of things for her in a way
that felt like punishment. Although I didn't say this, I
also thought moving in together while she knew she was

(45:09):
in love with Izzy could be a form of manipulation.
You're basically like, oh, I will just work her until
she loves me. Yeah, you know the slow burn. Well, also,
why would you put yourself in it? You literally go
into a situation where you know someone is not sexually
attracted to your entire gender. During the conversation, Izzy also
shared concern she had and what concerns others have expressed

(45:31):
to her. The next week, they officially started dating. It's
finally happened.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
It word you.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
Put all your mind power to it, and dare that happen?

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I am stunned.

Speaker 6 (45:39):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Okay, So all of this context to ultimately ask you
for your help. Callie asked me to be a bridesmaid
in her wedding in June of twenty twenty four, not Ezzy,
your Meredith's wedding. Meredith became angry that I was in
the brill party and revealed that she had been secretly
angry with me for over six months because Izzy shared
the conversation with her, the one where Opie said hey
watch out basically maybe dat.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
She said that I was a.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Bad friend for speaking to Izzy about her, saying that
she could have been a love bomber and I should
have come to her with her concerns.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
By the way, if you're ever concerned.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
You can tap our profile to join our live stream
every single weekday at.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Three pm PST. They just feel betrayed. Yeah, makes sense.
My friendships was all imploded.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I haven't been able to talk to Izzy without feeling
as though I might say something wrong and it will
be shared with Meredith. I haven't been able to reconcile
with Meredith, things seem so heated. She apologized to me
at Callie's wedding, but it felt like there was more
that needed to be said. Meredith and Izzy both want
to move forward with our friendship, but I find myself
stuck in all of the things said over the last year.

(46:41):
Can my friendships recover from this? Should they?

Speaker 3 (46:44):
And? Am I the a hole? No? You're not the
a hole? So to close things out quickly, can my
friendships recover from this? I'm gonna be honest and you
tell me, what do you think?

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Riley?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I think that this friend group has just it's just
so mess.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
They're going on vacations together and crying and yelling at
each other, wasted in the streets.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Do you want to be a part of this friend group?
I feel like so far Cali is literally Cali's just.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Like living her life, like doing her thing, just getting
married and like causing no drama. It defends with Cali
if any of the like I think at this point,
it's just like, hey, this is kind of becoming a lot.
I need some time to If.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
They're upset at you for trying to be a mediator
that you put them in, that they put you in
the situation more. You don't need be friends.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, yeah, agreed, agreed. Yeah, I hosted my friend from
another country. But I don't think he's going to pay
me back for anything. Hey get on his currency. A
friend game to visit my country for ten days and
stayed with me and my partner. To show his gratitude,
he bought us four bottles of Veno around six to
eight dollars each. By the way, this comes from Dancy
you from our sash Okay story time Separate. We drove

(47:53):
him over a thousand kilometers for a few days to
take him on adventurous trips around the country. It's usually
expensive to rent a four x four and hire a
tour guide. Here four x four is like four bedo
four bath. We were essentially his driver, tour guide, and host.
We prepared a guest room for him with toiletries in
his own bathroom, made all the bookings, prepared the camping
gear for him. I thought the wine he brought would

(48:15):
even out our service for him, and we picked him
up at the airport at four thirty am. To be
a good host. They're putting in the.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
Work, dude, This guy would have been like uber.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
However, every time I took my card out to pay
for our meals, he sat silently. I was happy to
treat him for the first meal or two as a host,
but after six days, like seven meals, his silence unsettled me.
His silence was violence, the same one we had to
pay for attractions, gas groceries. No thank you, no offering, nothing,

(48:44):
just sitting silently. Dude, he cares.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
About money more than you, mister crabs.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
I got car.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I admit I was never upfront with him about finances.
I just assumed as an adult in his thirties with
a professional job in Germany, he would offer to pay
for his share, chip in or taken's paying meals. He
also never mentioned paying us back for the hotels we
paid for him. I consulted him on the prices before booking,
so he should know he had to pay. He only
brought two hundred dollars cash here, and his hotels were

(49:11):
already over two hundred dollars. He didn't seem to plan
to pay us back in cash.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I was antsy.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
He also rented a sedan for the city site seeing
in between, but the car rental was at the airport.
We gave him a ride to the airport at first,
and he hinted he wanted more rides from us to
take him home. After he dropped off the car and
a ride to the airport for his flight at four
to twenty am, I told him to take a taxi.
It was less than six dollars. I'm sorry, take the taxi. Yeah,
especially him after not paying the cool of.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
John just be like we'll split this, Like as soon
as the check approaches the table, just be like, oh yeah,
we're all gonna split this.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
It's true eight ways. Why would we not come on
on his last day?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
A few hours before he flew, he still mentioned nothing.
We presented him with a bill for his hotel, meals
and groceries. He seemed taken aback. We told him we
spared the gas in exchange for his wine. A hole
for giving him a bill that listed out all his
expenses as a host. I should be more gracious or
upfront if I were transactional, But it's silence, not even
a thank you, upset me and made me give him

(50:11):
a bill. This person is not as close to me.
We met on a trip eight years ago and hadn't
seen each other for six years. He wasn't interested in
seeing my country. There is an edit. There is an update,
but before we get into the edit, I mean, yeah, not.

Speaker 6 (50:26):
A close friend. See, like it looks like John and
I I'm like fifty, he's like, you know, eighty. He
wills to see North Carolina for the last time, and
I take him around. I would pay for him because
he's my close friend, and I would expect the same
thing from him.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Yeah, Like if I came.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
To like, yeah, yeah, let me, but I'd be like,
like put his elderly asked down, I'd be like, I
got you break, Yeah, but like that that's kind of
like what i'd expect. Like whatever I do for you,
I would expect you do for me. But exactly do
you think if OP went to visit him, they would
do the own, dude?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Not even plus they wouldn't they wouldn't pick them up
in the airport, they wouldn't pay for anything.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
They'd be like, oh, hey.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
There's this like spot on the floor you can like
crawl onto if you want, And like I'm gonna be
like working and like not spending any time with you,
but like you know, you can like walk around my
neighborhood and you know, just check it out and stuff,
but like if you could just like basically not exist,
So just like you know, anytime I'm like up, like
if I'm up, you just have to leave. Oh my god,
We've got it. At Las and gentlemen, oh boys. A

(51:30):
lot of you asked why I paid for his hotel
up front. We got special discounts as residents, so it
had to be under our name, and in another booking,
we not only got a resident discount, but also added
him to our room in extra bed so that way
he could say war Op. He was trying to save
him money. Literally, I communicated clearly, told him we got
a discount, and he asked how much the rooms cost.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
He knew he had to pay, So yeah, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
It wasn't a case of like, oh, did Op just
like pay for everything expecting him. Yeah, they he did
communicate the costs and all that stuff. So on days
we asked him how he would pay us back the hotels,
after knowing he didn't have the cash for us, He
said a transfer.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Ever heard of dogecoin.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
We hoped that he would take the initiative to make
the transfer before he left, but he stayed silent the
whole time until we asked again on his last day.
My partner and I felt that his bad manners to
make the host ask you twice about payment, so we
ended up being blunt with him about the bill to
draw boundaries, which I mean at this point.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Yeah, totally called for.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
As for meals, we often ordered a family plate slash
of few dishes to share, so it's hard to have
a separate bill.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I didn't invite him to come.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
He saw my photos on social media and planned to
come with his girlfriend, but then they broke up and
he came alone. If there were two people coming, it's
more obvious that we would split bills fifty to fifty,
and they wouldn't have stayed with us for this long.
We felt pity for him after this breakup and wanted
to be nice. Now we have the update. Do you
predict that OPI will get paid back?

Speaker 6 (52:54):
Oh heck no, dude, Yeah, which is so sad. He's
gonna block him on every That's tough.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
That's tough. But we have an update, so ooh him too, fash,
Let's find out what happens.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
So I can't believe I'm the a hole here after
going above and beyond for a person We saved him
probably three to four hundred dollars for the strip and
did numerous favors for him. This person did not offer
once to share gas for a long road trip, to
share anything with us, or at least pay for his
own expenses. The hotels shouldn't have been assumed.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
As a gift. It's obvious.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
We also told him about the prices of everything upfront.
Yet when he heard something cost X dollars and we
had to pay, he sat silently. We decided to give
him that bill because we reminded him on day six
to pay for his hotel.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
He did nothing.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
We went camping on day eight and he prepared note
food or drinks to share and only ate what he brought.
At this point, this was very poor manners. That's crazy.
He's just like only eating his own food. We the hosts,
shouldn't have had to ask twice for hotel payments. We
also saved him quite a bit with our resident discount,
and we can save you quite a bit every day
by tapping our pro while enjoining us live every weekday

(54:02):
at three pm PST.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
You know what to do. Click it with the claws,
click click.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Okay, the bill was less than fifty dollars excluding the hotel.
He's on a budget, so we only took him to
dirt cheap places to eat. I was going to let
that slide to pay that fifty dollars if he was grateful,
but not a token of gratitude really upset me.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Hence the bill.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
He could have picked up an eight dollar meal just
once out of the seven meals, you know, and the
gall to ask us for rides to the airport on
his last day when a taxi ride would be just.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Five dollars five dollars. Bro.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
Hey, he's on a budget.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
I understand, dude. I think I was that guy.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
If you're this cheap and ungrateful, I would give you
a bill and make you reimburse us. He came here
as sad as a puppy after his breakup, and we
were extra nice to him and tried to distract.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Him with our amazing nature here. If he came with
a partner, they'd mostly be on their own. That's the it.
That's it. Wow. I think that's whack. That's wow. Dude.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Did you get the money?

Speaker 8 (55:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
You know how much?

Speaker 5 (55:04):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I haven't shut up about the the fifty dollars dinner.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Like sixty years ago. Oh my god, maybe back. I
will remember that. I will hold that in my in
my every three months. You really do this. One time this.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
Girl wanted me to buy her at a friend dinner
and a friend didn't even eat it.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Oh he did it, bro It pissed me off. I
will make a lot of money back then, man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
So anyways, yeah, thanks, good riddance, and just move on
with your life with this.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Sounds like you got cool nt. Go on walks, go
on walk Yeah, enjoy your life easy, that's it.
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