I FINALLY stood up against my mother-in-law… but now everyone’s against me! -r/MotherInLawsFromHell | Reddit Stories - ok storytime

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Speaker 2 (00:17):
I finally stood up against my mother in law, but
now everyone's against me.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Ooh uh oh, sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
My husband and I got pregnant with my son when
we were first dating in grad school. It was a surprise,
but we moved in with my parents to continue our
education while supporting a child. His mom lives ten hours away,
so we didn't see her often. Initially, I loved her.
She was cool, fun and laid back.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
For now.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
By the way, this comes from a Lissa Million And
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I'm Savannah, and we're here to give good advice.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Goofully, But we don't have all the answers, so we're
just gonna guess what we would do in this situation.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Let us know what you do in the comments below,
and oh, he says. Our first blip happened in October
twenty fourteen when she showed up to my baby shower
two hours late and was upset that all forty of
us didn't wait for her.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
In December, our son was born and she overstayed her
welcome in the hospital room. In January twenty fifteen, we
got engaged and asked her to do the rehearsal dinner.
She said yes, we just needed to pick the place
since she was out of state. In October twenty fifteen,
we visited her. I tried showing her my dress and
she scrolled through her phone telling me that she'd seen it,
telling me she'd see it at the wedding without even

(01:37):
looking up. In spring twenty sixteen, my mother in law
had her license suspended due to multiple accidents. In May,
my husband lost his job and our insurance. So fast
forward June twenty sixteen, one month before our wedding. Mother
in law wanted to take my son to her state
during our honeymoon. We said no due to her driving

(01:58):
record and my son only having catastrophic insurance. We offered
her our apartment and car, so she could still spend
time with him, but she declined and made a huge
deal about being hurt. Her husband even called and chewed
my husband out like he was thirteen. So now July
twenty sixteen, we get married. She didn't come to the
rehearsal dinner, let alone pay for it. She didn't get

(02:19):
her other son a tucks even though he was in
the wedding, so my mom paid for it. She never
paid my mom back, which was about five hundred bucks.
She didn't get us a card or present and didn't
even say congratulations. She didn't smile in any pictures or dance.
Clearly she was pissed about where our son stayed during
our honeymoon. I'm still hurt by how she acted, but

(02:40):
I didn't let it ruin my day. I'm not upset
about the money. It was about her not sticking to
her word and her character. Fast forward now to April
twenty eighteen. Okay, all right, we're jumping around on this timeline.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
We are.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
My husband graduated with his MBA and landed a job.
August twenty eighteen, we bought a house. No easy tasks.
Mother in law sank my husband's credit by having him
co sign things.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
That she defaulted on no yikes, hikes, and we found
out that we were pregnant again after years of trying.
In December, she asked us for a large sum of
money to help with bills since she spent too much
on Christmas. We said no since we also had Christmas,
my son's birthday, a baby on the way, and a

(03:24):
house that had just flooded.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh, the next day was my son's birthday and she
didn't call, probably because we didn't give her the money,
which my son still remembers. In January twenty nineteen, now
she gets a job in our city and randomly moves here.
She asks to stay with us while looking for a place.
I say no since I was high risk coaching robotics

(03:46):
and I like my Space. She landed the job in
early January and didn't start until February, plenty of time
to find a place. I sent her listings and my
husband offered to apartment hunt with her, but she didn't
take it. As soon as she moved here, she's been
awful at communicating. We would invite her over and it
was like pulling teeth to get her to commit. When
she would come over, she wouldn't make eye contact with me,

(04:08):
whispered at the dinner table to my husband and continued
whispering when we asked her to speak up asked She
asked my husband to ask me questions when I'm in
the same room, and tried to manipulate my son by
telling him that he needs to ask for her to
come over.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It sounds like such a lovely party, guess could you
imagine that She's like, could you pass the peace please?
Like it's just that, yeah, can you ask?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Can you ask your wife to pass the police? She
gives me she pulled me another wine please. After the
second awkward visit, we stopped inviting her. Then we started
getting mail with her name at our house. What?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
What? How? How? What did she just say? Like I
live here now? Yeah, she's just listen. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
My husband asked her to stop, but she didn't. She
even said, I.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Know you told me to stop, but I know you
said not to, but like I kind of want to.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I kind of like this, And she said that she
used our address when applying for a car. What's girl,
What's why? What's the reason? It got so bad that
our mail lady glued a label with her last name
into our mailbox. My husband told her again to get
a po box. April twenty nineteen, our daughter was born. Okay,

(05:29):
so okay, full house, foolhouse. Mother in law visited the
hospital and brought her son, who sneezed and coughed the
whole time. Next thing, I know, I'm sick. Two days
after the sea section. Yes, no, that's things.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I sent a text to all families saying no more
visitors until we're out of the hospital. Everyone was cool
with it except mother in law. She didn't see my
daughter again until almost a month later and sent my
husband a text about how I'm barring her from her grandches.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Oh you boar thing.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
In May, mother in law wanted to bring my husband's stepdad,
who she's divorcing, to see the baby. I didn't want
to see her. She was triggering my postpartum depression and anxiety,
so I wasn't there. During the visit, my husband pulled
her aside to remedy things. She said, I'm the one
that hates her.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
My husband brought up that she hasn't liked me since
before the Heidimoon ordeal. She ended up crying and yelled,
I'm moving back to Virginia to my four year old,
What you did that?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Two of the four year old me too, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
The week after my daughter spiked a fever and we
rushed to the er, mother in lawn texted my husband
chewing him out about not telling her our daughter was
in the hospital.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
My husband tried calling her, but she didn't answer for
five days. What we did answer for Friday and she's like,
how dare you? How dare you not tell me that
she was in the hospital. It's like, oh am, I
supposed to do that when you're not answering. Then she
said it was because she was out of town for business. Yeah,
amount of town, So I'm not bringing my phone with

(07:04):
me business. Is she running where? Like that's I'm curious
to see this lady's timeline. Yeah, it seems like that, Like, oh,
he's given us so much of their timeline. I want
to know what the mother right her perspective, Yeah, I
feel like she's just running like long cons and like
across state lines. She's a mattress firm, money laundry and

(07:28):
she has to like get move. She used to go
to these different towns to move some money around for real, right, Yeah,
we also received mail from the I R S addressed
to her, plus a car loan and credit card. She
not the I R suse you. You're gonna be like

(07:48):
a rested for harboring a fugitive, Like like you're gonna
be accused of that just because her address is sou
My god, you totally wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
The IRIS does not care right. She lied about continuing
to use our address. She said that I'm keeping her
from her grandchildren and that.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
I hate her.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
She told my husband that she won't speak to us
unless she needs to, so any advice.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
We do have an update. She didn't call or text
my husband on Father's Day. I tried messaging her about
the IRS thing, and she responded to my husband instead.
What I emailed the person on the envelope about what
was happening, then called the post office to get her
removed from our address. They called back personally to apologize
and scribbled over her name in the mailbox. Okay, we

(08:34):
have a second update. That's great.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I was wondering if you had to like sign into
like all of these websites for the IRS and the
car loan and something and changed the address there. But
that's a good way to just get it.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
All over with. Yeah, honestly, very very efficient. I don't
know how to adult that yet. I'm not there now
we know the IRIS is not coming after me yet, yep,
until they find out. Update number two. She hasn't contacted
us for months. Then one day.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I hop on Twitter to find that she's been posting
about us.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Oh, here are some quotes. Not allowing children have a
relationship with a loved one because you dislike or don't
see eye to eye with that person is wrong. Not
allowing your children to have a relationship with the ones
close to that person is worse. I was always there
for you through your whole wrestling career and never missed
a match, despite distance or weather. If there was a
tournament that you wanted to go to, we were there.

(09:34):
I was your biggest fan, and you still couldn't take
the time to let me know my grandson was wrestling.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
My husband was hurt and broke no contact. He let
her know that it was hurtful to drag him through
the mud when she's made no effort to fix things.
He said that he still wanted to compromise.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Her. Texts back were awful.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
She was cussing and venting instead of apologizing or compromising.
This was the last straw for me. I sent this message.
You are such a drama queen. If you truly want
a relationship, then quit being passive aggressive and talk otherwise.
Don't come for my family on social media. I have
zero time for your pettybs. You are a grown butt

(10:16):
woman hiding behind a keyboard instead of speaking to us civilly.
We've left the door open for you long enough, and
yet here you are playing the victim better than Taylor's whift.
Either figure yourself out, get over the crap show you've
made and be a part of our lives, or keep
our names out of your mouth.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
We'd all love to have a relationship with you. You
are the only one getting in your own way. Ball
is in your court. And she didn't respond. I have
surgery to remove a mass on November fifth, so I
blocked her on everything. I love Op's storytelling. I love
it so much. I'm just about to say, by the way,
I'm getting a mass removed, and just so you know,

(10:57):
very pertinent part of the story. I love it so much.
Some about the wrestling stuff, that's just like like I
think we should just randomly throw things into our stories more.
I appreciate no peace, me too. It's just it's very scattered,
but I still understand.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, we're getting the message, and it's just adding a
little bit of a humor in there your toes.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Honestly, I'm like, wait, did they mention that? Oh no,
you're right right. Make sure you're paying attention. Wrestling came
out of nowhere, came out of nowhere, That mass came
out of nowhere, out of nowhere, but not for a pee,
but good things. She's getting it removed. So I blocked
around everything.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Then I saw posts from his brothers and decided to
block them too. But I messaged them first to let
them know I just needed a break and it was
nothing against them, y'all.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I got slammed.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I was called everything from a self absorbed person to
victim too ugly.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
It was like high school cyber bullying.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I sobbed and I clapped back because I don't let
people all over me.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
But I was literally shaking.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
They defended the tweets saying, how do you know mother
in law wasn't talking about someone else and she just
uses Twitter to blow off steam. And I'm supposed to
move past these tweets because she uses Twitter as a
diary that the whole world can see.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
And there is a little bit more into the story,
but my, oh my, what are your thoughts so far?
I think that mother in law is cray, But I
also I feel like there's like two sides of the
story obviously, But I also I very much think that
this mother in law is a little cray. Yeah, and
I think that she needs to just you know, cool it.

(12:37):
But obviously that's not her thing. But it's so funny
that like what her like sons or whatever, the other
people defending her like like saying, like, how do you
know that was about you? What other wrestling tournaments has
she been to? Right? That's what I want to know. Yeah,
there is a little bit more into the story.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
What was also interesting because mother in law has bad
mouthed all of them to me in insulting her husband,
calling her daughter in law stupid for marrying her other son,
and about her other son, she said, who cares?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
He's a dumb butt and she's a dumb but for
marrying him.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Why would they stick up for someone who talks so
negatively about all of them? Besides that text, which was
not my finest hour. I'm not sure what I did wrong.
I'm willing to hear criticism because there must be something
I'm missing. I'm saddened that they hate me. My family
is huge and close, so this really bothers me because
I thought that i'd have the same with my husband's family.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
So what do you think? What do I do? Apologize?
Move on? I'm at a loss and that's the end
of that story. My mother in law made my husband
cry and still think she deserves respect. Ugh, but you
see these tears. What I'm saying. My mother in law
fifty nine is the biggest self absorbed person you will

(13:53):
ever meet. For some reason that we cannot figure out,
she has never really liked me. Female twenty seven. I've
always thought it's because my husband Mail twenty eight is
her youngest kid slash son, and no one will ever
be good enough for him, which is super weird in itself.
By the way, this comes from you, totally bubbles, And

(14:16):
Okay story time subreddit. I am Savannah and I'm Angie,
and we're here to give you some good advice. Goofully,
But we don't have all the answers. We are not professionals.
We only say what we would do in the situation,
So let us know what you would do in the comments.
As Op says, she has three kids, a daughter and
two sons. Her and her daughter had a falling out

(14:38):
and stop speaking for a few years because of how
bad my mother in law is. I am incredibly close
with my mom and my siblings, and she has shown
time and time again how jealous she is of my
relationship with my mom. My mother in law has always
been terrible, But the first thing she did that really
started all of this was when we moved to Florida

(14:59):
a few u years ago. First mistake was Florida. It
was my birthday and my mother had flown down to
surprise me. Since I was struggling with moving away from
my family. My mother in law and her husband were
already in town from helping us move some stuff down.
We decided to go out to dinner for my birthday.
That was fine until the check came around. Oh, I

(15:20):
am not even kidding when I say. My mother in
law looked at the waiter and said, I will be
paying for everyone but her and pointed at my mom.
I was ready to throw hands. That's my mom, and
you don't talk to her like that. Oh my god,
that's kind of crazy. That is crazy in front of
everyone too, that's wild. You're going, yeah, everyone but her, right,

(15:46):
not this one? Like crazy to just be like yeah,
no where, Yeah, I'm hurt. That's wild, dude. But my
mom said, I don't think so I will either pay
for this whole table or I will pay for just
me and my daughter. My mom and her have not
spoken since oh it's been four years. Wow. My mother

(16:08):
in law's sister doesn't even talk to her anymore, as
well as several of her other family members. Okay, so
we can kind of see something forming here. There's already
a disconnect from other family members, so not a good
starting point. Mother in law last year is really when
it started going downhill. I was pregnant and we were
planning a gender reveal. She has obviously divorced for my

(16:31):
husband's dad, and that's where the party was since he
lived where we did as well. They have been divorced
for a long time and are both remarried. We're all adults,
so it shouldn't be too hard to get along for
your grand baby's gender reveal. Right wrong. She didn't come
down for it because it would have been uncomfortable. That
was quotes, even though when she previously visited, she had

(16:53):
no problem going to his house and using his boat
all day when he wasn't there, but still grow up.
My mom and my sisters flew down for the gender reveal,
and the day before we decided to have a beach
day and ended with a sunset cruise on the boat. Well,
my husband boyfriend back then proposed on the sunset cruise.

(17:15):
Cute to wait, that's so romantic. This proposal was supposed
to happen weeks before, but the weather and timing never
worked out. He never planned for my mom and sisters
to be there either. It just happened to work out
that way. Okay, well, you know whatever. After the proposal,
his mom was the first person to send the video
to He was very excited by the way, but she

(17:36):
never responded. He had to call her the next day
to make sure she got the video, and she was livid.
What her response was, you get what you're getting, you
don't throw a fit. Oh okay, rhyming scheme, She's the riddler.
She couldn't be happy for her son because she was
so caught up in the fact that my mom and

(17:58):
my husband's stepma were there and she wasn't. She straight
up told my husband and myself that we should have
told her about it, and that he was planning on
doing that. I was literally in my pajamas when he
proposed how was I supposed to know about it? To
tell her? The only people that knew were my husband,
his dad because he was the one driving the boat

(18:20):
and had to get us right in the sunset, and
his stepmom because he asked her to record it. The
next day was our gender reveal. It wasn't anything crazy,
just some balloons in a box and we opened it
and the balloons came out. We simple We let my
mother in law know exactly what time it was and
gave her a ten to fifteen minute window of when

(18:42):
we would be opening up the box. We had someone
ready to be on FaceTime with her so she could
be there. That way, we called her fifteen times, oh
my gosh, and she didn't answer. Want to guess what
she was doing, and he guesses, no, Actually, I'm just
thinking like she's hugging up but like I don't know,
like I feel like it probably wasn't bad. I feel

(19:06):
like she'd probably be like, oh I was running errands
or yeah, I don't know. Sorry, I was watching it
ring and did it and waiting to see how long
it would take for her to stop. I really really
love to hear my ring tone. Golfing. That's the answer.
She's golfing. Ha, none of what we said. No, she
never answered. She knew weeks before about this party and

(19:29):
she chose to go golfing during it. Pathetic. Well, later
that day, I ran home to let her dogs out,
and my husband called me crying. I have seen this
man cry maybe twice in our six year relationship, so
I knew something was wrong. Oh side note men crying,
I kind of like it's a soft spot. But also
I have to turn away because I laughed, and I

(19:52):
know it sounds horrible, but I'm just like anyway, So, well,
I knew something was wrong. His mother decided to call
him and go off on him. She said, we should
have waited to open up the box until she called
us back, but she never did. What Yeah, right, Like

(20:12):
the only time she calls them back is to just
like just totally verbally brate this guy, like yeah, like
that's what you should have fifteen chances. Why didn't you
call me sixteen times? Right? Are you kidding? She didn't
call back until at least an hour after we opened
the box. My blood was boiling. If my mom wasn't

(20:33):
able to fly down, she would have been on the
phone way before we opened the box to make sure
she didn't miss it. What were we supposed to do
make all the guests who were actually at the party
wait for her to call back. I don't think so. Now,
every time I think of what was supposed to be
one of the best weekends of my life, all I
could think about is her and how she made her
own son cry on his big weekend. She never reached

(20:56):
out to me to congratulate me on the engagement rude
or the gender rude. Things were obviously weird after that,
and about a month later, my husband tried to mediate
a phone call because he was obviously upset with what happened.
Her husband did all the talking, and it literally sounded
like he was holding up pew pewp to her head

(21:16):
to make her say sorry. Wow. Literally that's all she said,
not even in I'm sorry, just sorry. There's a difference, yeah,
especially in like this kind of situation where she's already
not doing nearly enough to show up for her son. Yeah,
it's like, yeah, just saying sorry is like I want

(21:37):
to say, like what you're sorry for or something like.
I feel like it's just I don't trust it at all. Yeah,
it really does seem like she is just saying it
to get everyone off her back. She did not speak
to me my entire pregnancy, not one call, not one text,
no comments on all my ultra sounds or bump pictures.
I posted nothing, And now when the baby is born,

(21:59):
she wants all this access to her. You must be
clinically insane if you think you're going to disrespect me
and then get access to our child. We moved across
the country back to where she lives. Most of our
family lives there when I was twenty six weeks pregnant.
She never even offered to help with that at all.
She came to the hospital the day after our daughter

(22:21):
was born. She didn't even say hi to me when
she walked in the room or asked how I was
feeling after the sea section. When it was time for
me to breastfeed, she threw a fit when I asked
her to leave the room. She has come to our
house several times since our daughter has been born, and
it's so awkward and uncomfortable. She doesn't even say hi
to me or try to talk to me. She came
to visit once when our daughter was about a month old.

(22:43):
She's eight months now, and I spent the entire time
crying in her room because I was so mad and
angry at the thought of her even holding our daughter
after she walked in our home without acknowledging me or
asking how I was doing. That is crappy, for sure.
I don't like this mother in law, not at all.
We have seen her several times since, and it's like

(23:04):
she doesn't even want to attempt to repair what is
honestly past this point of repairing for me. There's also
an update. But do you have any thoughts? I mean, yeah,
boom boo this mother in law boom mommy. No, yeah,
it's like she just doesn't have any sort of concept
on I don't know, like how other people's emotions work. Like, yeah,

(23:26):
not at all. She's not being considerate of the mother
of her grandchild at all. Never has been, even her
own son. She hasn't really she's been disrespectful towards It's
like kind of like the last story you read. It's like,
if you want to have a good relationship with your grandson,
you have to have a good relationship with their parents. Yes,
you know, like you just it's just you got it

(23:48):
all right. Here is our update. I stay at home
with our daughter and she has made several comments like
what do you do all day? Just watch TV? And
it must be nice to just sit around all day.
My husband has stuck off for me several times. I
love my husband so so so much, but he is
a very passive, aggressive person and hates confrontation. He is

(24:09):
just the happiest person I have ever met, and he
just wants everyone else to be happy as well. I
know that it's his mom, and I don't want him
to resent me when we cut her out of our lives,
but I just don't know what to do at this
point anymore. I can't continue to get treated like this
and still be okay with her around our daughter. Any
advice is helpful, thank you, And there's some comments come

(24:31):
at one. Why do you two keep going back for more?
Why are you setting up for your child to be
exposed to this disgusting behavior. Educate yourselves about enmeshment. And
the bottom line is if she is a self absorbed person,
she will never change. You can put boundaries and consequences
for breaking them in place to protect your little family. Personally,

(24:53):
I would go completely no contact. She is not a
mother figure. She is a nasty, toxic cloud. I mean agreed.
I thought, like immediately, like you, just after knowing you
just like pick it up and it's like, yep, they
only this, this is who they are, and they don't change.
They don't don't try, don't even try to go there,

(25:13):
because that starts like with childhood. So yeah, that's they're
too old for me to The thing is they don't
want to change, and then it annoys them, and then
it annoys you, and then it's just this constant back
and forth. They're just like, well you did this, I
did this, you did that, will you did this exactly?
Oh it's horrible, horrible, don't do it. Oh, he says.
We have thankfully decided to go no contact after she

(25:36):
asked my husband to dinner just the two of them,
and legit had a list of things she thinks I've
done wrong. Oh wow, that's crazy. He asked, Okay, now
that you've said everything you think she's done wrong, tell
me what you have done wrong. Good question, She said,
she has done absolutely nothing wrong and everything is my fault.

(25:58):
I cannot fathom how someone can think or act this way.
I'm just happy she is finally out of her lives,
the commentary replied, saying, mmeshment is the word. My guess
is she hasn't got a romantic life of her own,
and if she's married, her husband ignores her, so she
gets what she needs emotionally from the man she raised. Hmm,
that's right, she originally said, like no one's good enough

(26:19):
for my son. Yeah, forgought about that. It always comes back. Yeah.
The hardest part of the scenario is when a husband
is too spineless to correct her. I know from experience.
I wish I knew what to tell you, but he'll
have to be the one to shut her down. And
unfortunately the boundaries you can control are ultimatums and no contact,
resulting in you being the easy to go to labeled

(26:41):
scapegoat and villain. I wish you much sluck, and I'm
so sorry you have to deal with that, which I
lived nine miles from my monster in haws crazy, oh my,
and two thousand and five hundred from my own kin,
what a mistake. I hope she doesn't destroy your marriage.
And that is the end of that story.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
My mother in law tried to replace me, so I
went no contact to save my sanity, as you should,
Oh Josh, it's going to be a lengthy post about
how my mother in law has traded her access to
our lives for the chance to get her jolly's making
snide remarks. Dear husband thirty eight male and I thirty
eight female have been together for six years with a

(27:24):
one year old. We both work full time and my
parents live abroad while my in laws live in the
same city. While I've tried to be patient, my mother
in law's constant interference and Mimi me character has become exhausting.
By the way, this comes from dance Head twenty four
to six. And if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay. Storytime is Sepreddit and
I'm Angie and I'm Savannah, and we're here.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
To give good advice goofly, but we don't have all
the answers, so we're just gonna guess what we would
do in this situation, Let us know what you would
do in the comments, so OPI says. A day before
our wedding, mother in law told husband, don't plan anything yet.
She isn't looking one hundred percent. That's daunting. Don't plan
a wedding yet. But I won't tell you.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Why you like grace it is. She was insinuating and
not to plan on getting pregnant because I wasn't looking perfect.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Why was she even thinking about our wedding nights. She
then spent years telling us not to have kids because
they'll ruin your life and just kid cats like great,
thanks mom for letting me know that kids have ruined
your life.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Thanks mom, Love it, love it. When we bought our house,
she made negative remarks about traffic, noise and train sounds.
Instead of congratulating us, she redirected the conversation to herself,
talking about her friend in the hospital, as if our
house purchase.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Wasn't a big deal. When we announced our pregnancy, she
ruined it with.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Oh, well, if you had bought a house near ours,
I would have helped you raise the kid.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
She then spent the next two years telling us one
kid is enough, don't have more, the second child will
be bad and ruined your life like mine did. Oh
my God, constantly saying this in front of me when
I was six months pregnant. She even joked that husband.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Should quote borrow an egg from her niece, suggesting her
son have offspring with her niece in front of his
pregnant wife. Because our little one was due on Christmas Day,
husband said that we wouldn't be doing Christmas presents that year.
Despite this, mother in law brought her a diary to
our house and got offended.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
When I gently reminded her, she sarcastically said, oh, I
thought you would still have a huge Christmas feast, a
big tree in the front yard and all the lights
and decorations. A week later, she repeated this taunt in
front of her friend, deliberately embarrassing us. Yeah, it's like, sorry,
I'm too busy being nine months pregnant. Dude, I can't
I don't want to put up all these lights. I

(29:46):
couldn't go up on a ladder, right, I just couldn't
hang these lights. There's something in the way. Yeah. And
then even if he did that, it's like, when are
you gonna have time after your newborn is there to
take them down, like, come on, you gotta think realistically.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
The day before I was due for delivery, mother in
law spent eight hours at our house doing nothing to help.
She told me we should stop at one child because
a second would be quote bad like her second son
and ruin our lives.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Oh my god, I'm pretty sure this is their second child.
But what does she keep saying?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, I don't know, maybe this is the first child,
and I'm like misunderstanding, But either way, I mentioned I'm
the second of three siblings and was the easiest child.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Her response, then, why didn't your mother stop at two?
Why did she have three kids? She later added, when
you have kids so late, it'll be hard to look
after grandkids, essentially calling me too old to have children. Ironically,
mother in law still holds anger towards her own mother
in law, who passed away decades ago, for saying something
similar to her thirty eight years ago. We love a hypocrite.

(30:51):
We love to see a hypocrite. No, literally, we love it.
Yet here she is doing the exact same thing she's
resented for decades. When we had our baby, she showed
up at the hospital with a large Sully toy and
sulked to husband that I didn't seem excited enough that
toy ended up in the bin. Mother in law made
my postpart I'm all about her constantly pressuring husband for updates, photos,

(31:14):
and invitations, even after we told her I'm not Christian
and husband considers himself an atheist, she kept pushing for
a christening. One day, after I fed the baby and
passed him to husband for burping, he immediately handed him
to mother in law. She said, passive aggressively, Oh, I'm
allowed to hold him now, am I? Husband replied not

(31:34):
if you talk like that, We're already exhausted with a newborn.
Instead of apologizing, she started crying and said, I'm not
feeling loved. Do you even want me in his life?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
And her tears vanished the moment she turned around. It
felt performative when I asked her to wash her hands
before holding her newborn, especially after playing with our dog,
and given that she gets cold stores.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
She completely ignored my requests. The next time she visited,
husband sheepishly at her to wash her hand. She snapped back,
do you wop it a shower as well? She was furious,
and I could see why husband is so hesitant to
stand up to her. Mother in law brought many legos
labeled for children over six years old when our little
one was a newborn. I told her he was too

(32:16):
young and we didn't have room to store them for
six years. She said okay.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
In the next week, she showed up with a bag
full of them and handed them to husband, telling him
where to store them in our house. She was blatantly
disregarding my decision in our own house, acting like this
is her son's house and I'm just temporarily living in it.
When husband eventually returned the legos, she made her point
by showing up on subsequent visits with bags full of
thrifted toys with choking hazards, used books, and flash cards

(32:45):
unsuitable for a newborn. She has like flash cards for
like multiplication.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
To play around the world. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
She didn't ask if we wanted any of it. She
just dumped them in our house. We ended up throwing
all of it. Mother in law invited herself to regular
visits by saying, on my next fortnightly visit, you no,
we can't just.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Pass that up on fortnightly visit. Who speaks like this?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
She didn't ask she just told us. Not once during
those early postpartum visits did she offer to help or
bring food. All of our friends who visited brought food, nappies,
or offered to help. Father in law, on the other hand,
tidied up without being asked and gave attention to our dog,
knowing that we were adjusting to life with a newborn.
On husband's birthday, when little one was five weeks old,

(33:34):
husband messaged mother in law requesting she shortened her visit
because we were exhausted. She ignored the text, came earlier
than planned and stayed until almost dinnertime. I baked a
cake and arranged snacks. She brought a packet of chips,
but took it back with her when we didn't open it,
asking repeatedly, are you gonna.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Eat these chips? Otherwise I'll take it back. She then complained,
this is the first time we didn't have a meal
on your birthday. Was there a reason we couldn't stay
for dinner? Yeah, it's this baby right here. It's the
thing that came out of me. It's like their fault.
Only five weeks old, does why? That's why.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
While we were having birthday cake, mother in law was
holding our crying little one. When I got up and
reached for my baby, she turned away from me and said, no,
you go eat your cake. When a mother asks for
her crying newborn, one should hand the baby back. We
started meeting her at restaurants and parks so we could
leave when we were ready. However, as soon as we

(34:32):
indicate we're leaving, she asks what.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Are we doing next? Are we going to your house?
And we mentioned other plans. She responds, oh, I thought
we were going to your house after this? Are we
not going to your house? He just really really wants
to be in that house. Does Where's I'm gonna get
the guest room ready right? She stares at husband, putting
him on the spot and trying to make him uncomfortable.

(34:56):
At a buffet restaurant, husband and I agreed that mother
in law would not sit next little one because she
isn't hygiene conscious. When husband got up to phillis plate,
mother in law immediately swapped seats without asking. I told
her that husband was still sitting there, but she ignored
me and continued interacting with the little one. I said, okay, ignoras.
Then she grumbled and said, I'll move in a minute,

(35:16):
but didn't move. Five minutes later, after I took a
phone call, dear husband came up to me and said,
Mom is very upset. Can't she sit in my seat
next to the little one please? That moment really hurt me.
Instead of speaking to me directly like an adult, mother
in law manipulated a husband by acting hurt behind my
back to convince me. By the time I walked back
to the table, she was brazingly sitting in husband's seat,

(35:39):
acting like nothing had happened. She was handing finger food
from her plate to little one with her bare hands
and kept putting her fingers in little one's mouth. Why
are you putting your fingers in her mouth? I feel like,
where's the forks?

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
You know you don't just for a little one, no intensils.
They don't have some to eat out of your hands.
They really don't. Even if they do eat out of
your hands, don't have to put their hands in their mouth.
What's up with that? Here comes her right like that's
just shoving it in the back of their throat. They're gonna
choke eat it? A't it? Goodness? I hate your mom?

(36:12):
I mean, you're gonna eat it? Right?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I immediately pulled little one's chair away and firmly said
no biting.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Wait wait what wait, you blamed it on the child,
said that to your child, no biting.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
My therapist, a grandma and mother in law herself, was
shocked at how often my mother in law contacted us,
which is multiple times a day.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Every single day, he gets messages about updates on her
day house dramas, updates about her cats, or random Facebook things.
She constantly pressures husband to respond, taunting him, I guess
I won't hear from you until you're back at work.
God forbid a thirty eight year old son, a grown
man with a newborn, postpartum wife and a full time job,
should have any space. The therapist said that mother in

(36:56):
law was pulling husband into her everyday dramas when he
was already dealing with his life. She mentioned that she
would love to contact her son every day too, but
knows that it's not healthy because he's a married man
with a wife, two kids, and a busy job. The
therapist suggested going no contact with my mother in law
for some time to clear my mind. So I went
no contact before she could drain the last of our

(37:16):
energy and destroy the peace in our home. As I
slowly began distancing myself, mother in law noticed and suddenly
changed her tune, messaging about dropping off chicken soup to quote,
give us a break, mind you, our little one is
almost a year old. Now where was all this kindness before?
Classic love bombing from someone who senses that they're losing control. Yeah,

(37:36):
that's exactly what's happening. Yeah, honestly, Yeah, very very intuitive
to know that. Right.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Husband takes little one to visit our in laws once
a month, but it's sad that father in law, a
wonderful and kind man, doesn't get to see little one
more often because of mother in law. Father in law
always made us feel loved, genuinely cares about us, and
offers help where he can. He's giving and warm, the
complete opposite of mother in law, who is unhappy, always pessimistic,
and consumed with her own feelings. I suggested to husband

(38:04):
that we catch up with just father in law, but
he's too scared of the pity party that will ensue
if we leave mother in law behind. Mother in law
doesn't even let a husband and father in law spend
time together on their own. It's like husband was never
allowed to have his own separate connections with his extended
family members even as an adult. Most of our marital
arguments stemmed from mother in law's meddling, and the ripple
effect of her interference still.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Causes tension between us.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Husband never stood up for himself, let alone for me,
and thinking about how this miserable mother in law caused
cracks in our marriage makes me so acrete. Husband has
been conditioned to be responsible for his mother's feelings, and
he lets that obligation dictate his life choices even as
an adult, putting strain on our relationship because of her.
Mother in law has missed out on so much of

(38:48):
this special time. It's heartbreaking because he truly deserves to
be part of the little one's life. It's also sad
to come to terms with the fact that our children
won't have the kind of involved grandparents that I always
hoped for. I often wish my own parents lived closer,
and I often wish that you would listen to full
episodes of more stories just like this one. Just go
to Spotify, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or whatever your favorite podcast

(39:10):
app is and search Okay, story time.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
You could do just that, but there is a little
bit more to the story. But yeah, that must be
hard to like understand your husband's past with this woman
and not really know what to do about it. Yeah.
I feel like this one is kind of like have
Zi's on the mom and the right, Like it's like,

(39:33):
I want to abide by what my wife says, but
also that's my mom, you know, that's the other two. Yeah,
they were like sister. Yeah, yeah, but like we already know.
But like it seems like he doesn't want to lose her,
and I'm sure that she being in she is is
making him feel bad about you know, like not letting

(39:57):
her do this and and her and her and her
like that's you know what they do, so exactly. Yeah,
I feel like it's like, yes, you can understand how
this all happened. I mean, it's gotta be throughout childhood,
you know. But then it's like you don't really know
what to do about it, especially if he's not really
noticing it and noticing that it's a problem. So yeah,

(40:17):
it's very, very frustrating. But there is a little bit
more to the story. Let's have this on up. Some
people like my mother in law mistake kindness and respect
for weakness until the person they've been mistreating finally sets boundaries.
She had every chance to treat me with respect from
the beginning, but instead chose past aggression, sarcasm, taunting, and
snide remarks. Now that I've stopped playing.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
The pushover role she expected, she's realizing she no longer
has the control she once did. Her sudden desire to
quote start over doesn't feel like remorse. It feels like
she wants back the control and attention. Since going no
contact with.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
My mother in law a year ago, I feel much
more at peace. She brought negativity, lacked empathy, and drained
us emotionally. Life without her had it's been calmer, and
I hope this piece continues, even if she's pressuring my
husband to reconnect and that is the end of that story.

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Speaker 4 (41:12):
First, my child's school lied about calling CPS on me
just because I miss their calls.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I hate that.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
I hate that our daughter seven started school last month.
I told the front office, under no circumstances should they
call me if something happens.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
To her, Especially Wednesday Thursday, or Friday. That's crazy. She
is truly under no circumstances. That is what is saying
funny to me.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
I work and I am not allowed to have my
phone on my person while working. They were told explicitly
to call her father, who works overnight but is home
all day. As a result, that makes more sense. Okay,
By the way, this comes from less Roll forty eight
twenty four. And if you want to smit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay story times. I'm Sophia
and I'm Riley, and we're here to give good advice.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Goofiy. But we don't have all the answers. We only
know what we'd do, So let us know what you
would do in the commons.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
And ohp says I got to my lunch break today
and what do I find but sixteen missed calls from
the school. I assumed she had been hospitalized or there
was an active shooter, something horrible that warranted sixteen calls
to the parent they were told not to call. I
called the school frantically before even looking at my voicemail

(42:31):
and found that they called me because she threw up
threw up blood. Nope, just regularly throw up but because
I did not answer, this woman considered it abandonment and
made a call to CPS. I asked if they had
called my husband. Nope, just me and I did not answer,
which is not allowed. I called him and he went

(42:52):
to pick her up. There was a woman sitting with
her in the nurse's office who was also there during
orientation night, but she was not our kid's teacher or administrations,
so we did not get introduced to her. As soon
as my husband got there, she's scurried off, and when
he asked the woman at the front desk who she was,
she reiterated that she had called someone about your wife

(43:14):
abandoning your daughter, and she told them if it happened again,
it would be a lot more serious, and we should
consider making sure her mom is always there when her
kid needs her, which again feels super gender Rosie. It's like,
oh dad, we're not gonna call dad, Gotta be mom.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
It's also still like to be like.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
I called someone about your wife. Yeah, you should really
figure something out with her.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Your wife so weird, way way off, way off.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
You know what you should do? What you know?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
What?

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Actually?

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Ope you should do. Here's my advice. Ye go to
the office, throw.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Up, Yeah, what are you gonna do? What are you
gonna do?

Speaker 4 (43:48):
There's no way that a CPS agent is just hanging
around this school at all times and did not bother
to stick around to lecture a parent who abandoned their
kid when they showed up. I think they lied because
they do not like that dad is supposed to be
their primary point of contact. I think, so I'm going
to follow up with the principal when I have calmed down,
of course, but what the actual f and some of

(44:10):
Opie's comments, Commoner says, is it documented that you are
unavailable for those three days? Or is dad listed as
the primary contact? OPI says both. He was all written
down explicitly when we were filling everything out. He's the
primary and I'm secondary with special instruction. Her grandmother is
the emergency contact.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
And also wasn't called yeah, get me MOA in here.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Truly, Like as I've worked with kids at like a
summer camp, and one the amount of times that I've
had to wait at like the after school care for
all the kids to get picked up, and you're waiting
there for like an hour and you're calling, No one's
picking up. That's like classic childcare. There's some kids it

(44:52):
takes a while for them to get picked up. You're
not calling CPS, you know, unless it's like everyone needs
to leave, like we actually gotta go.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Sophia had summer camp, just like calls once picked up, Well,
all right, there's another one.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
To gotta send that to kids to CPS. Bye.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
I would also exhaust all of the people on the
list before I make sixteen calls to one person. Crazy
top Commoner says, make sure it's well documented. They need
to follow the communication orders you give them. They don't
get to decide that the mother must answer. I threaten
a lawsuit if they continue this behavior and make false
CPS reports. Op says, it's all in writing and has

(45:33):
been since we first started filling out the paperwork. If
you mean the woman claiming she called CPS, Unfortunately I
only had that conversation over the phone call and not
a text message, Commoner says, CPS will provide you with
a letter to document the investigation and then another letter
to confirm that it was founded or if no evidence
was found, you can call CPS and ask them to

(45:55):
confirm if you're being investigated. If the school didn't exhaust
all means of contact. CPS is way too overburdened to
send someone to investigate. This sounds like BS to scare you.
OP says, I'm almost positive it is. There's no way
an actual CPS person wouldn't have at least spoken to
my husband when he showed up. Whether they really believed

(46:16):
this was abandonment or not. Commoner says, I'm willing to
bet it was a school counselor or social worker if
they did complain, CBS has seventy two hours to follow
up if substantiated. OP says that would make more sense.
They definitely work there and aren't a direct teacher, and
the counselors are split up based on student last names,
so we met hers. But I know there's at least

(46:38):
five And to an idiot Commoner saying, ohp should have
had her phone regardless of the rules. I'm including one
comment from OP because I liked it. OP says, no,
it's not allowed on my person period.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
What the battery is that isn't distributed by the company itself,
and our assigned pagers do not allow outside calls. I
feel like ope's like some sort of healthcare Oh oh,
what saying so much more, saying I was about to
be here, Like.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Wow, Like what she's in CIA. She's out on the field.
She is five years undercover. She actually works for CPS. Yeah,
she's a CPS. She takes a call, she's like she
doesn't answer the her phone call, but does answer the
call to CBS. Hello. She's like, Hello, my child threw up.

(47:26):
I'll call I have to report this to myself. Looking
in the mirror, I have to, I have to.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
You can look at your phone on your brakes. Hello, Well,
what do you think people did before cell phones? Do
you think kids were just keeling over in the nurse's
office because the home phone wasn't picked up and the
office was too stupid to try anything else. Later in
the common thread to no job is too important not
to let you have your phone for your kid when
the battery and the phone signal could disrupt the equipment

(47:55):
or cause excess static and cost tens of thousands of
dollars in damages.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
It it is.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
I feel like, if you're like a pilot, probably shouldn't
have your phone. Maybe, like if you're a bus driver, yeah,
probably shouldn't be looking.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
At your phone.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
I feel like there are a lot of jobs where
you shouldn't be looking at your phone.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah, and this woman asked, we discussed could be anything
from a nurse to a pilot, to a CI agent.
Maybe maybe a bus driver, yeah, on the weekend volunteer.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
It's just anything that involves your kids, especially when that
person has other family members who should be called first.
And there is an update a week later. But what
do you think OP should do about these crazy teachers?

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Like, I know somebody in the comments was like, oh,
you can threaten a lawsuit. I'm like, you know, keep
it in.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Your back pocket. Okay, there's nothing to.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
Do other than just like go in she said, just
going to talk to the principal, which feels good.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Yeah, like, hey, this is what happened. This is what
needs to knock you on them again for it. Like, yeah,
I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Worry about I think that you could totally go to
the principle and be like these are the complaints I have.
If this continues, I will, for you know, follow up
with further action.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
I have the CIA on my side. Yeah, don't full
up the bat.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Yeah, yeah, iah do the thing that they do in
like TV shows where they just go CIA.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Yeah, fashion fast. Ooh, sorry, that was my bus driver. Yes,
let me sorry, it second to my health. Oh that's
my nurse. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Update to answer the most common questions, The school had
documentation to call my husband or his mother ever since
be enrolled there. I double checked our computer portal with
the school website and it's still listed that way, including
that I can't be contacted for anything that might be
time sensitive. I cannot have my phone on my person
while I'm working period. My workplace has an automatic answering

(49:44):
machine for public calls, so even if the school did
call them, I wouldn't get the message for probably another
half hour at absolute best. Even then, I work about
thirty to forty minutes away if traffic is good. Yes,
I am in a more traditional area, although it's it's
never been too huge of a deal before, besides having
to commute to the city for work. This is not

(50:05):
going to be the super dramatic update I'm sure a
lot of people were hoping for.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
First off, I did not jump straight to getting attorney
to threaten them. I did call and ask a local
family law firm, and the person I spoke to told
me if we did have to go as far as suing,
it would look better to try to exhaust options on
my own before threatening legal action. But they would be
happy to look over any communications between us, and we
could see them on any emails and ask me to

(50:30):
get any information on the potential neglect and abandonment case
I could while they looked into it as well. I
started by sending a follow up email to the principal
and c see the superintendent and law person on it,
asking for confirmation that they had checked our file for
who to call, more details on who exactly was spoken
to at CPS, any case numbers, and the name of

(50:51):
the person who was sitting alone with my sick daughter
and did not speak to my husband or identify themselves. Unfortunately,
or maybe fortunately, the principal was out of town for
several days with some family emergency. Principal's also CIA principal. Yeah,
Principal's like, I've got a urgent.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Business to take Yeah, and then turns out on the
same mission boom buddy cop scenario.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Oh and then you need to go. Yeah. The whole
movie is I gotta pick up my kids.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
She's thrown up sixteen times, I gotta go, And every
time a bad guy's like.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Oh, you'll never catch me, like, knock them out. I
gotta pick up my kids exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
After a day with no reply, the superintendent emailed me
directly asking for more details, and I sent them an
email outlining exactly what had happened from our perspective, screenshots
from my phone, my husband's phone, and his mother's phone
showing the phone calls and the lack of them. Monday,
the principal finally got back to us.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
And we got some answers. Yay.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
The woman sitting with our daughter was one of the
school counselors, just not the one assigned to her. No
one actually contacted CPS. There is no case open against us.
That was just a straight up lie. The woman who
told me she had had actually called the school social worker,
not CPS, who then sent the counselor to sit with
her instead of you know, telling her that was ridiculous

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or going himself. The counselor claims she was under the
impression that she was just keeping our daughter company until
the parents arrived, since there was no nurse that day.
But if that was the case, she should have at
least said hello. Right, There is a little bit left
to this story. Do you have any final thoughts?

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Lying about calling CPS is great, wild, that's wild crazy.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
You just can't be lying. You can't be doing that.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
That's how I feel sometimes with some of these stories,
where I just sit here and I joke, we just
can't be doing this.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
We just can't just be lying about things. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
No, I really feel like they better take some sort
of action against because, like to admit that you said
I called CPS and also that that was a lie,
there's got to be some sort of like punishment for
this lady.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Gotta be something. It just ain't right. Slash the badge. Yeah, absolutely,
you're under arrest.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Yeah, but Ope continues And I'm not sure if he
was supposed to tell me this, but apparently this is
not the first time they've had issues with how she
responds to fathers or male caregivers in general, which I
want to know. If that's the case, why didn't anyone
do anything about it before? That's the real question. What

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the f As of now? She's been suspended pending investigation. Yes,
and Op's got a head that investigation herself.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Obviously these aren't all of the details, but this is
the gist of it. I'm sure a lot of people
were hoping to hear I'd sue the school for defamation, intimidation, threatening,
whatever else, and gotten that stupid woman fired for being
a misogynistic witch. But this is what we've got. Loel
some of Op's comments. Commoner says, it sounds like the
woman's behavior will be doing all the work of getting

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her reprimanded and or fired. Opie says, hopefully fired. Commoner says,
I'm confused because in your first story you said that
the woman sitting with your daughter took off, but that
it was the front desk person who lectured your husband
about you abandoning your child. It sounds to me like
both women need to have a level of discipline around
the fact that fathers can be first line caregivers. Op says, no, no,

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I said the woman sitting with her was the one
we didn't recognize, who was not her teacher or administration,
but who we'd seen at orientation. Not that she was
the one who called us. But that's yeah, that story.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
My ex's mother tried to steal my child by creating
false reports against me.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Give them back, Give that back.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
This comes directly from the r slash Okay storytime subreddit.
M M quaint op says, I thirty five female am
married to a thirty seven male and I have one son,
ten from a previous relationship. The bio dad has never
met my son and has never tried. The bio dad's
mom will call her Bar has been involved in my

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son's life since around eight months or so.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
By the way, this.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
Comes from Independent Shift nine two three and if you
want to submit your own stories, go to the r
slash okay storytime stub reddit. I'm Riley, I'm Sophia, and
we're here to give good advice goofully, but we don't
have all the answers, no matter how much we might
look like it.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
We only know what we would do, So let us
know what you would do in the comments.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
In the comments, uh OPI says, to fully understand, it's
important to know our history. The bio dad, let's call
him Chad, was in an on and off relationship with
me for six years. He cheated on me with multiple
women throughout the entire relationship.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
YOI. He went overseas for schools.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
We did the long distance, and he still cheated. He
flunked out of his overseas school and came to mind,
cheated on me still and flunked out of first year.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Eventually, I got pregnant.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
When I was pregnant, Chad and Barb tried everything they
could to pressure me regarding the pregnancy, slandering my character
and trying to talk to my parents, who are very Christian.
They called the cops and CIS on me with claims
that I was on a downward spiral and they were concerned.
As you can imagine, my pregnancy was very stressful. I
was taking the bus to work and medical appointments and

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working two jobs, so I had a good maternity leave
and just felt so alone and worthless. Fast forward to
the birth of my son. Chad completely ghosted me. At
this point, all of a sudden, Barb wanted to be
involved in the baby's life.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Fine.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
I took initiative and brought the baby to Barb's and
included her. Barb would become one of my main supports
during my son's infants. We got really close and bonded
over our mutual love for this child. Unfortunately, Barb has
no conflict resolution skills and doesn't know how to communicate effectively.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Classic classic We wouldn't be on this reddit. Yeah, if
we did, if we had communication skills.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Yeah, we had a difference in opinion regarding discipline from
my child, and she called ZS on.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Me for a second time.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
Unknown to her, CES keeps track of people who make
claims and considered this her second false claim against oo.
Barb goes to Mexico for about two months of the year,
so on this part particular year, I reached out to
her and let her know that although the CIS claim
was anonymous, I knew with certainty it was her, and
that I would not facilitate face times between them while
they were away. I let her know when she returned

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we would have a discussion about why she called CES
and some resolutions towards this. At the time this was
all happening, I was working full time and doing university
courses part time. When she returned from Mexico, she wanted
to see my son. I reminded her that we would
be having a discussion about the call, and also that
I was in the middle of exams and would need
her to wait.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Can I just say props do pie? Yeah? Work of business, university?

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Yeah, mother working university. Mother, She's slaying she's doing it
all pilots.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Violet, we don't know.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
The next day, I was served with court papers claiming
parental rights with my son.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Game freaking on.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
I went that entire summer with her not seeing my
son once due to the court proceedings.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
When we were.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Finally face to face in court at the end of
the summer, she dropped all charges and considered this to
reconcile between us.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Okay, so we move on. That's insane. I'm sorry. Move on.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
So if like I had a grandparent, mother in law
or something that literally sued me to try and take
my child away from me, I'd be like, you're never
seeing my kid again.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Well, and even because the mom had called beforehanded was
pressuring her while she was pregnant, the fact that the
BARB was involved at all is she was already I
feel like on thin ice.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Yeah, I'd be like, you're never seeing my kid. You
so crazy?

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Oh goodness, Okay, I've always had issues with Barb following
my son's schedule for sleeping and whatnot. I generally found
that after a night with her, he needed an extra
day to get back on his schedule, which really sucked
for me as a single working mom, But honestly, I
just appreciated so much that she loved him as much
as she does. My son is now ten. In between
all of this time, I've taken Chad to court for
child support and.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
One noise noise, She's win in court case after court case.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
It's kind of an episode of leg just slaying mothers
in the twenty firs century. And she is taking Chad
to court for repaying her for like fourteen years of schooling,
of which he still is somehow not done with school
a professional student. Within the last few years, we've had
issues with Barba and her husband buying our son whatever
he wants whenever he wants, despite the cost. In her defense,

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Barb's two sons don't speak to her or want anything
to do with her, so my son is her only
person to spend money on. We've asked them to please
check in with us before they buy something, because, for example,
our son was earning fifteen dollars for something he really
wanted and we had chores in place for him to
achieve his goal by the weekend. Once Barb heard about this,
she made sure to hand over the remaining cash he
needed without talking to us first, not cool, Grandma not cool?

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Why is she still like around? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
I feel like I wouldn't be allowing her, yeah, access
with at least without me there to monitor.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
I feel like if I had to guess, And obviously
we can never speak for these people, but like, if
you are a single mother who is working any of
the yool like, yeah, and sure I probably think you
can like okay, well we'll just handle it or d
but yeah, at some point, I also do love Opie's
little comments.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Yeah, not creaking up, not grandmamma.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
She was helping us out with one day a week pickup,
so our son knew every week that whatever he needed
to earn would be given to him if he asked.
This is frustrating because it takes away the value of
the lesson we're trying to teach his parents. We've expressed
this to her many, many, many times, with absolutely no change.
In June of this year, I was getting married.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
You were planning a wedding during all of this, dude,
hook you go, wonder woman over here, God speeds.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
We were going to get married at the courthouse first
and then have a small wedding after at a later date.
We asked Barb if she could pick up our son
from school on the day that we were going to
the courthouse so that we could have the time to
get that done without stress. She agreed, of course, I'm
so scared.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Uh oh, Opie's about to get sixteen. Call.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
I had to have a conversation with her about giving
my son permission to do things when we had already
had a discussion about the expectation. And after that, she
withdrew herself from babysitting our son for our courthouse wedding.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
She's like, I actually don't like that you gave me
any notes, so I won't be doing this anymore at all.
That literally, he's just trying to get freaking married. You're
trying to get married. Yeah, and this is this is crazy,
I will say. The single mother's best friend I feel
is uh your kids friend's mom or like parent whoever's

(01:01:28):
picking up you know, Like, yeah, you make friends with
the other parents and then they pick up your chair.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
That's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
We got to start making all their branches of support
because Barb's not cutting it. Yeah, she removed herself from
helping out weekly with our son with the intention of
punishing me in some way. As I am used to
this behavior from her, I asked my mom if she
could step in, but she was able to and we
were able to fulfill our plans without her. I sent
her an email the next day, just letting her know

(01:01:55):
that I respect her boundaries and I'm really sorry to
hear that she wants to spend less time with our
son because she does go to Mexico for quite a
bit and the only person that would really be missing
out is our son. After she got this email, she
thought she could reinvite herself to our wedding and replace
herself into our son's weekly needs without a conversation. I
very quickly let her know that she uninvited herself from

(01:02:16):
the wedding and we would not be reinviting her, and
that her decision to have less time with our son
remains because she set that boundary and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I will respect her boundaries.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Ooh nice, say, You're like, Okay, if this is what
you want, we'll respect it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
It sucks because I honestly think if OP had more
supports systems, she probably would have done this way sooner. Yeah,
but like she unfortunately, out of like necessity, needed this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Woman, and now she you know, gotta get rid of her.
Bye bye, bar bye bye.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
I had every intention to honor her and her husband
as much as I honored my parents at my wedding,
because I truly did feel like she was a very
important person in my life and in my son's life.
So the wedding comes and goes, and she never talks
to me about her decision to uninvite herself from the
wedding and all of the changes that occurred since she
removed herself. I had specifically asked for less contact between
her and I because I was very disappointed, and I

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do feel like after the history that we've had, I
feel all done to not have a conversation about something
like like that is so inappropriate and not all the
way I act around people that I care about. So,
as always, after time has passed, she slowly starts moving
away from sending all of her messages into a group chat,
which I had asked for, and she starts messaging me privately.
Because I care about her and our history, I allow it.

(01:03:29):
It's nothing we haven't said before, but like you can
see this story having like all of these things of
like big thing.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
Cut off, okay, and kind of back and then big
thing cut off, okay, and by I think it's frustrating
because I think Ope again is so reliant on like rightfully,
so she doesn't have a lot of help and so
she does need any of this help where she can
get it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
But it's like, yeah, it does kind of give Grandma
or makes her feel like she can do whatever yeah want.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Even though we've had multiple conversations about purchasing big items
for a son without talking to us, it was almost
like it got kicked into hyperdrive after the wedding. They
were buying our son two hundred dollars lego sets, fifty
dollars of Roebucks, et cetera. Every single time they saw
him without talking to us. I sent her a message
and I said, I think it's pretty gross that you
guys continue to buy big price items for a son
when we've asked you to please check in. I said,

(01:04:18):
I no longer consider you family.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Oh why true?

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
After I sent that message, her husband sent my husband
a message saying that he didn't like the way I
was talking to her and that he was the one
that decided to purchase the toy and that I agreed
to a small priced item and he's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Like you agreed to a small price. Itdem we have
a lot of money. Yeah, two hundred dollars is not
do bucks. It just go ahead. It's package. Le said,
you want whatever you want.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
Kid. Well, because my son is ten, I asked him
to show us what toy was purchased by Papa, and
he proceeded to show me two toys that cost over
eighty dollars. I'm feeling very frustrated at this point because
it's like, I'm so clear in good size with my expectations,
and I always welcome open communication and I will always
express exactly how I feel about a situation and what

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I'm expecting.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
A lot of my toys were like passed down today,
you know, and I feel like that's the way toys
should be.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Yeah, agreed, likely used eighty dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Robot No, no, no, I think you got a whole
firm this time, you know, because like every other time
you've said we're cutting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
You off, she leaves, she comes back.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
You let her back, and I feel like she's not
going to learn the lesson, and she's going to keep
stomping those boundaries. Yeah, if you let her back in
after saying you're not family, Yeah, because we've already said,
we've done it before. You're not family, Yeah, so let's
stick by it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
So I feel like her husband's saying it was a
small ticket item is a lie, and I'm just not
interested in having this type of relationship with other adults
that are old enough to be my parents. After we
received this message from Barb's husband, I decided to block her.
My son is able to call her from his phone
via FaceTime, and she is also able to call him
via FaceTime. I'm there's also communication open between herself and

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my husband, and so I don't feel that I personally
need to be part of this dynamic anymore. I felt
such a relief in my nervous system knowing that she
is blocked, and knowing that I won't have to deal
with any weird social trickery from someone who obviously doesn't
respect or truly love me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
My they no, no, no, no, but uh that's the end.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Of that story. Hey is John Ogi host.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
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Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
My family ghosted me during a Vegas trip, so I
cut them off. For some background, I forty five female
come from a large family. I'm number five of six kids.
My parents are long divorce but amicable. My dad lives
out of state, but has plans to move back near
the rest of the family as he's getting older and

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has health issues. My mother, seventy five female, lives in
the same city as me and has always relied on
me heavily for help. I live the closest to her
and have always made myself available when she needs anything.
By the way, this comes from Misunderstood fifty nine. And
the r slash Okay storytime subured it. I'm Sophia and
I'm Riley, and we're here to give good advice goofily,

(01:07:09):
but we don't have all the answers. We only know
what we'd do, So let us know what you would
do in the comments. And OHP says my siblings are
not the most reliable and have bled my parents dry,
constantly relying on them for support. I consider myself the
most consistently stable of he's like, I don't want to
brag of an extremely stable can't knock me over with

(01:07:32):
a bug and water. Since childhood, I've been extremely self sufficient,
working multiple jobs my whole life. My oldest sister, Alyssa,
passed away at thirty five years old, leaving behind two kids.
I was twenty five at the time of her passing.
We were very close in the years leading up to
her passing. My sister Kara fifty five female, is the
second oldest. Kara is a successful nurse who is divorced

(01:07:56):
and loves to drink, but she's self sufficient. Number three
was my Lei, who also passed away already when he
was forty two years old.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
This is so tragic, genuinely like Condolean fid Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
To lose your siblings at such a young age. Number
four is my brother Bobby forty nine male, who has
been a severe user his entire life. Like I said earlier,
I'm number five. I'm married with two teenagers. Number six
is my sister Marie forty female. She has struggled most
of her life with regular use as well. I think
the last count on her rehab stays is around forty.

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I try and stay supportive, don't quit quit. We all
have kids. Me and Kara were the only ones to
raise our kids. Both my parents have taken in grandkids
to raise with little to no help from their parents.
My mother, in her retirement years, is currently raising the
youngest grandchild, Marie's nine year old son.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Wow. I am not a perfect person, but I've spent
my life striving to be better.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
I work hard to have nice things. I try to
be an example to my kids and show them the
right path. I've tried to rise above the stigma that
my family is full of ecs and thieves, which brings
me to my breaking point. Over the last few years,
I have tried to be closer to my family. We
get together for birthday dinners and holidays and just generally
try to be there more for each other. I like

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to say the family can still put the fun in dysfunctional. Yeah,
that's the attitude.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
That is the attitude to take absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
I feel like the only people saying that are either like, fully,
it's not dysfunctional, like like, oh my god, sorry, we're
st crazy, put the fun and dysfunctional, or it's like
you are grippy onto any strength movie they're like tumbling
for the water and they've got a hand on.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Like a piece of fun and dysfunctional.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Literally, over the past few years, me and Kara have
grown quite close.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
We were not.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Close in my younger years. We've traveled together and been
closer now more than ever. Me and Marie have had
our ups and downs, as she lived with dad after
the divorce and lived out of state for years now.
For the current situation, my family has spent the last
year planning a trip to Vegas for my oldest nephew's wedding,
Alyssa's son. It was me, my husband, my mother, both sisters,
and a few of my nieces and their significant others.

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In total, between both families and a few friends, there
were twenty five of us who traveled there. We were
scattered around at different hotels. That's a lot of people
to go to like one thing with. That's so like
to plan like a to coordinate a trip is tricky, Yeah,
and truly even without any of the other context of
this also hard. This Reddit story could have been just

(01:10:33):
about planning a twenty five person trip, and I, like
yang insane. We were scattered around at different hotels. Some
of us made plans to go to shows. I made
a few plans during free time before and after the wedding,
but I was clear about what I was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Doing and when.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
If anyone wanted to tackle long it was hard to
keep everyone in the loop, even though we had a
group chat. I tried multiple times to join in with others,
but was met with vague answers and never given detail.
Yuh dang, even after hearing groups talking about things they
were planning. That's just like twenty five person trip, though
I don't think that should necessarily Yes, I'd been on

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a ten person.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Trip like that was. It was like a week long trip,
and that was tough.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Trying to get five people on the same page about anything,
and then multiply that by vive.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
It's tricky.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Some met at another's Airbnb for swimming and drinking. I
asked for the address to go join them, but conveniently
never got the info. Pre wedding Friday, I had tickets
to a show at the Sphere Cool, which was a
bit pricey and kept anyone from wanting to join. The
rest of the wedding day went off without a hitch.
We all gathered to watch my nephew and his beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Bride get married.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Then everyone got on a party bus to take us
around Vegas for all the fun and fun it was.
Everyone was drinking and dancing. It was all around a
great day. The next morning, Saturday, I had planned to
drive out to see the Hoover Dam for a little
sight seeing. My mom, Kara, and a niece and her
fiance joined me and my husband. The only other set
plan we had for the trip was getting together.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
For dinner that night.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
We had reservations at a pricey buffet. I don't think
buffets should be pricey.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
It is a fun little oxymoron, huh.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
I feel like, if you're serving yourself, shouldn't be pricey,
sue me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
I bet we could find it. Yeah, yeah, Vegas, I said,
legs Las Vegas price.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Due to the number of people, we ended up having
to split between three tables. I originally was at the
largest of the three. After we started taking seats, my
sister Kara became agitated as there wasn't a seat for her.
I offer to move to a further table. It was
the farthest from the rest of the group and had
a frosted glass wall separating I was.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
The guy to say I going to restaurants as like
big group.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
It's tough. It's kind of a nightmare.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
Everyone's talking and then the waiter comes up. It's like, what, well,
I guess they don't have to deal with the waiter
because it's a buffet.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Yeah something, Maybe you're paying for the convenience.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Dinner seemed to be going okay. We passed each other
in the buffet line and made food suggestions for others
to try. We would pass by the bigger group at
tables right next to each other and check in. My
husband at one point was at their table and try
to ask about after dinner plans, but was met with
blank stairs. I didn't know about that until later. Somewhere
around the time we were thinking of moving to dessert,

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my nephew, the groom, said he was having a bathroom
emergency and had to head up to his room for
a bit and said goodbye. Everyone else was still there
working on dessert. It didn't seem like too much more
time had passed when my new niece, the bride, came
over to say she was tired from all the last
few days activities and was heading up to join her
new husband for some rest. I mentioned I was gonna

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head over to the other table to get with the
family to see what's next for the night. The bride
got wide eyes and uncomfortable look on her face and
said they're gone. I simply laughed. Then I looked around
the frosted glass wall and sure as heck, it was empty,
all gone, not a single goodbye from anyone, And now
it's a ghost story.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Yeah, oh, they're all gone.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Not knowing what else to do, me and my husband
left and headed back to the room. I was dumbfounded,
pissed off, and hurt. The next few hours I started
seeing the details through various social media and the family chat.
Everyone was off together, drinking, taking picks, sending snaps, and
even making tiktoks of the group going for tattoos.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Hashtag tattoos with Nana. Your family's crazy. Your family is crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
Like I understand your feelings being hurt and stuff like that,
and get a goal for tattoos with Nana, But at
the same time, maybe be grateful that you didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
I don't tattoos.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
I don't know if I need to go to that.
They were in Vegas party mode and left me behind
without a word. My husband saw my hurt and disappointment
and took me to gamble a bit to cheer me up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Hey, sweetie, thanks gamble, let's do some money. I enjoy
some slot time. He just does not.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
I was upset at seeing everyone out together, so I
did the only thing I could do. I simply remove
myself from the group chat. I said nothing else to anyone.
I didn't curse anyone out or ask why I was excluded.
I didn't want to take what was supposed to be
a once in a lifetime family trip and wedding and
cause any drama for the newlyweds. The next day, Sunday,
we were all traveling home. I got a call from

(01:15:22):
the bride and groom thanking us for traveling out to
be there for them, and they wished us safe travels home.
We made it back home later Sunday night. I was
extremely disappointed with how things ended in Vegas, but kept
my thoughts about everything between me and my husband.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
Well, and you have to because what happens in Vegas
does stay in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
So actually you have lost your opportunity to ever speak
about it. Frankly, we shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Be read, we should be ready talking about it. Sometime Tuesday,
my mother attempted to call me. I wasn't ready to
speak to her. She proceeded to text me, asking me
to call her. I couldn't resist and replied with, oh
you remember I exist, you must need something, Yeah, right,
which opened the floodgates for me. I said every thought

(01:16:07):
on my mind about feeling excluded into my hurt feelings.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I was told I.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Was being too sensitive and this doesn't like you, amongst
her many many excuses. It was emotionally draining. I simply
stopped responding. But there is a little bit left to
this story. Any final thoughts. I actually don't know what
to do. Others Yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Just live your life. Just live your life. We can
have conversations about it and stuff like that. But they
have tattoos with Anana. They got tattoos with Nanna. You
don't have a tattoo.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
I honestly don't even know if they were necessarily purposely
excluding you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
It feels like they weren't.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
You weren't like maybe maybe worse, it feels like they
didn't even consider you at all.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
The bride did seem kind of surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, yeah, I guess, I don't know. We don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
I feel like, just don't put an effort where you're
not seeing effort or something.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
It is kind of the moral of the story.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
Very well, said Wednesday brought us lieu of text for
Marie again with excuses, and it isn't like you, probably
because I've always taken the backseat to all their needs
and feelings, basically my whole life. Marie couldn't understand how
I was feeling. I got angry and simply stated I
was done with being an afterthought. She asked if I
was really breaking up with my family.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
It was a simple yes. I've spent all my life
being the one no one had to worry about. I
was hard working, moved out at a young age, and
I've been self sufficient. I never asked for help. My
parents both struggle in their retirement years after spending everything
they had supporting my siblings or raising their kids. It
made me feel like the black sheep for having my

(01:17:40):
crat together. Am I the ale for.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Deciding to go no contact and cut those out of
my life for ghosting me without a second thought. And
that is the end of that story.

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