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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
I hired an actor to pretend to be my long
lost son to trick my wife. It was all fake
and it's I'm Not your Father week on Okay Storytime,
where we are diving into jaw dropping paternity twist and
family confessions that have you asking is this really my dad?
December twenty first, twenty twenty four, my wife and I
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are watching Elf together and we saw the part where
Buddy will Ferrell's real dad, James Can tells his wife
about Buddy and his wife Mary gets excited about the
surprise adult kid that pops into their life from a
time before they knew each other. I point out to
my wife that it's a little unbelievable that she Mary
would immediately be on board I See You.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Based on title I See You as well.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh My, You're gonna go so far to prove a point.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Okay, I'm so on board. I then comment that she
my wife, would actually be mad at me in the situation,
even if I genuinely did not know this kid existed
and it was conceived. Ah, yes, that's the right word,
and it was conceived before I had met her. She
denies it, but I know my wife. By the way,
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this comes from Mark Weston, and if you want to
submit your own stories, go to our slash Okay story time.
Sub at it. So we are in our early forties
and have been married for ten years, together for twelve.
So I need a twentiesh kid to knock on the
door and tell me that they're my kid and that
they just want to meet me. Gotta be convincing and
really talk about how your mom and I were once
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really happy before she passed away from something tragic. Dealer's choice, gender, race,
ethnicity don't matter. So long you can pass for early
twenty shouldn't take more than an hour of conversation. Then
you get a call or something and you have to
leave more than an hour. Want to do this soon
after the new year. You come up with the backstory
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and play along. I'll give you a little infro up
top after you take the job, and we have an edit,
so he posts it looking for people near you. Edit
Holy cow, I have several interested potential fake offspring. I
am no longer taking applications. Do not expect so many
people willing. I'll post the winning candidate in the coming days.
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Edit two. It looks like I not only have a
potential fake kid, but the kid could actually pass as
a genetically like me. I will post an up day
after the first week of January, hopefully not from a shelter.
Notable comments. This sounds like a bad idea, but please
post the follow up once you go through it. Days
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you Go says worst case scenario. Okay, yeah, this could
go badly, but sometimes being right in a marriage is
worth it, Opie says. Another comment says you should hire
every single commenter here and have a whole week where
every day another new kids show up or slammer sixty
nine K says that why do I see in a
couple of weeks a post saying my wife punting me
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out what cheap in is the best bit? Outside says
I want to have the courage to post that here,
but you might see and am I d hole along
those lines? In a couple of weeks we got an
update January seventh, twenty twenty five. Sixteen days later, Op
got excited and ran with it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Ohp, He's like, okay, it's got time.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
First off, I am still married, nice and my wife
thoroughly enjoyed the prank. I didn't have to sleep on
the couch.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Wow. Okay, we jumped to the end of the story.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You probably practiced making kids after that. Yeah, so to
the very dramatic nay serres, one of which compared my
prank to spousal abuse. Several dying knows me with a
numerous mental illnesses. Oh come on, and at least as
many of you said, I was childish and cruel.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I mean childish, yeah, but like in a funny way.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
To you, I say, you're probably right. However, nah nah
boo boo, stick your head and doodoo. I hated saying that. Wow,
that was super childish. I didn't like it. Again, We've
been married for a decade. We know each other very
well to know what's over the line and what's funny.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's what I was saying. Like, it feels like Op
knows what type of humor his wife would like.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think Op knows what's like black and white, but
this is totally gray, and he's like, I think I
could get.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
By think I could get by it. He knows that
she wouldn't divorce him over it. Yeah, yeah, he's like,
I'm might be in trouble for a night.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
That said, it was harder than I thought to secure
a fake child. Sure, I had a large number of
interested parties and even a couple of fabulous candidates, one
of which actually looked like me. That I started wondering
if one of you got to be my wife and
we're pulling the ultimate una reverse card on my brak Nfortunately,
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interested and committed are two very different things. Multiple potential
sons and daughters made it to the planning stage and
found out one reason or another to bail out. Let
me be clear, I do not blame these folks at all.
I don't think i'd have the courage to send the
first DM let alone actually go through with the prank
orchestrated by some complete stranger. But I did find suitable
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actor with the courage to come through, and I still
think it was money well spent. So here's the synopsis
of how it played out. No, there is not a video, Dude,
Rink is a thing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Why didn't you record this? You literally set this all up.
You got an actor. Now that poor actor can't use
this for is real.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Also, you know how much money you missed out on
a good thumbnail and some crappy video would go. You'd
get probably thousands of dollars.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Here, I pulled a fake child prank on my wife.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
There you go, there's your title. Sophia does titles. Sophia's
a pro titles, aw shucks and thumbnails.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You should have just had LUs on the dude, I
could have done all of this.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, you could have made the thumbnail.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I could have acted. I could have made the thumbnail,
and I could have made the.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Title, made the title, I could have got the video
stuff going.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Dude, what oh my gosh, missed opportunity? Opee.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Sounds like we're spies. You can hire us today to
be your fake child, to prove your.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Spouse wrong, your spouse wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Saturday afternoon, my doorbell rang, my dog lost his mine,
as he has won to do, and my wife answered
the door since I had pretended to take a call
moments earlier. My son, looking about twenty to twenty five,
taller and better looking than I, asked if I was home.
My wife motioned to me. I conveniently just ended my
fake phone call. I came to the door. My son,
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we even shared my first name. His idiot, not mine,
said he had something kind of strange to talk to
me about. I asked if he wanted to come in,
which literally almost blew the whole thing, because I would
rather saw off my own foot than invite people in
my own house. But my wife didn't think any more
thing of it. We came into the living room. I
offered him a drink, he declined, My son, it's an
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excellent actor. By the way, he would later say, it
was the anxiety of the situation and not wanting to
mess up that made his nervous demeanor so convincing. This
is from memory, but it's pretty much everything. I'll let
my son chime in with details should he feel like
outing himself. Do you remember old ex girlfriend I mentioned
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at least once in my ten years of marriage in
front of my wife. Yeah, that's my mother. It was
my wife who reacted first with oh, no way. So
I looked at her beaning ignorance, and then back at
my son, said is she okay? Yes, she's fine. That's
not why I'm here. My wife was nearly busting out
of her chair, totally engrossed and completely consumed two strong theories.
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Her husband had a long lost son, and more importantly,
her husband hasn't figured out yet he has a long
lost son. So I say, out with the kid, what's
going on. I'm twenty two years old. My wife eyes
essentially bugged out of her head, having now confirmed her
theories in her mind. She looks at me, seemingly annoyed
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that I hadn't put the obvious puzzle pieces together, and interrupts.
My fake kid nearly laughed, but I held it in together.
I think he's telling you that he thinks you're his father.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
She's so into this, and I love that. She's like,
oh my god, you need a big faster. He's her kid.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
She's not even mad at the fact that he is
like a long lost son.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
No, he's mad that he's like put it together. Yeah,
he's like, put the two pieces together.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
My iting is not that great, but I gave it
a shot with wait what I look of shot could
use some work, but it played for the audience. My
son looked at me. She's right, not here to ask
for anything in fact, I don't have a lot of
time to say, but I just wanted to meet you
and maybe exchange numbers. Me, this is a lot to
take in on your mother a long time ago. She
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never said, I mean, I didn't know. I'm prayaphrasing, but
this kid deserves an oxscar. She never told you. She
only told me on Christmas morning. She didn't say anything
bad about you, just that it was over and she
already was dating my dad when she found out she
was pregnant with me me, wait, does your dad know him?
Of course, and I've always known he isn't my biological father.
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He's a great dad, But lately I've been wondering who
my real father was. So I asked my mom and
she told me me.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I freely admit I had the easy part.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
My wife, this kid is doing a great job. He's
got a whole backstory that he wrote up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
He's getting his rent right now. My wife, I'm not
saying anything. She's taking it all in. Not much else
to tell in terms of production. We exchanged numbers and
then he got into his own fake phone call reminding
him he was late for something or another, and I
walked him out the rest of the production was just
my wife and I. I came back to the living
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room doing my best bewilder act. We just talked about it,
cover things like paternity tests, things like that, And turns
out I was way wrong. My wife wasn't mad, miffled,
or even slightly annoyed. She was full, un amazed, excited
and entertained by the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, it was like, I know my wife, she would
be so mad about this and that She's like, this
is great. This is the most interesting thing that's happened
in my own marriage. And he's like, hmm, okay, maybe
I need to learn more things about my wife.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, either your wife smarter than you and knows about this,
and like did a I don't know what do you
call that? A double double fake out? I don't know
a double fake out? Or you just proved yourself wrong.
Oh this is beautiful. I waited a few hours before
I fessed up, but before I did, she kept saying
how cool it was that I wan't to have a song.
And then when I told her it was all be
a sly I made out to prove a point, she
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laughed a lot. I can't decide what amused her more
the effort I put the ruse in, or the fact
that I ended up proving her right in the process.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That would be so great if someone prank me in
this way, I would like, I think, the shock of
finding out that it was a prank. Yeah, and then
also finding out that I had been proved by it
would be so great, such a great feeling.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, I love the story. Here are a couple of
gems from what my wife said after I told her
the truth. Where the heck did you find that guy?
I'm glad your son wasn't a serial Unlaliver, I might
have been mad if he came here looking for money.
Next time you could save one hundred bucks and just
assume you're wrong. You know I'm gonna get you back right.
That last one has me a little worried. That was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That was cute. I have a nice marriage.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yes, And if you want to hear more crazy stories
just like this one, please go to your favorite podcast platform.
Search up Okay story Time and go to Apple, Spotify,
iHeartRadio wherever, and we will have crazy stories just like
this one. I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Favorite story of the day probably the week I agree.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I feel like we always read stories where someone cheats
and it's sad, and this one's just funny and it's cute.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And guys, we have another day of I'm Not Your
Father Week coming up. We got another story right now,
and I'm gonna let Sophia theat honor, do us the honors,
a donor.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Do the honor. I'm finally meeting my online girlfriend, but
her anxiety is raging.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean, it's scary meeting up in public and in
person me for real.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
A couple of years ago, I twenty nine male, met
a girl twenty nine female through an online circle. We
talked frequently and it was always a great time. She's
very passionate about a lot of the same things I am,
and is very career driven, which is something I'm looking for.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Cute.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
By the way, this comes from throw Away the US
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to our slash Okay story time Separate. So early last year,
she opened up about having feelings for me, which I
was receptive to.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
We started spending more time online together and eventually it
got to the point where she would be telling her
coworkers and family members about her boyfriend. This didn't bother
me too much, very interested, but for me, I had
to meet her to seal that deal. Fast forward to
Christmas and my gift to her was going to be
a trip up to meet her USA to Canada. The
trip was very expensive, but worth it. We had talked
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about me going to meet her a few times and
thought it was better that way as she has a
lot of anxiety. Very important for later.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Wait, so are they boyfriend girlfriend now but they have
not yet met in person.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well, it seems like they're a boyfriend girlfriend on her
side and he's just like I guess.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, we're boyfriend girlfriend on my mom's side and.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Health issues that would make it much harder for her,
especially in this current political climate. Well, that trip happened
this weekend. I'm currently typing this out from my hotel room,
which I've spent them the vast majority of my time here.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Alone in cash money.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
The trip to see her started off how I expected.
I don't know the city at all. It's a country
I've only been to a few times, and I was
nervous myself. I took a forty minute Uber to my
hotel and expected that by the time I got there,
she would have worked out her nerves and be ready
to meet me. Unfortunately, her ing's was extra bad and
it took her another two hours to work up the
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courage to drive five minutes to come see me. This
didn't bother me at the time. I knew it'd be rough,
and I'm a patient dude. For the most part we met,
she was shaking and bawling her eyes out, but overall
it was great. Dang, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I guess there's a lot of build up.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
We shared some hugs and we drove to her place.
She lives with her brother, so I was able to
meet him and we chilled out for a little while.
Her anxiety was still through the roof, though, so we
didn't actually do much for the next couple of hours.
She wanted to drive around and show me stuff, but couldn't.
Eventually she decided I should probably uber back instead of
her driving me. The next morning, I was up extra early.
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She usually works nights, so I figured she wouldn't be
up for a bit. Not knowing the city, I chose
to stay in and wait until she was wake. Four
hours later, she messaged me. We talked for a bit
and she told me she wasn't quite ready to see me,
as the nerves were still there. That's fine. I found
a substance store in walking distance where I could pick
some stuff up and get us some food at a
local spot before meeting up. We asked forward About two
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hours later and I finally get back to her place.
She doesn't eat anything and tells me that her brother,
her and I are going to go. Do we get
together and hang out with a bunch of the friends.
That's cool. I ask her how long we'll be there,
and she said a few hours. We leave and it's about.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
An hour drive, So it sounds like right now, she's
kind of introducing him to her world. Yeah, besides all
the anxiety and stuff, I don't know if I see
like too many red flags.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Which also it seems like she thoroughly prepared him for it,
because he was like, yeah, I expected to wait three hours.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Every one of her friends was great, super welcoming, and
she seemed really happy to introduce me as her boyfriend.
The little party lasted a good portion of the night.
We didn't talk much, as I was usually getting bounded
by our friends or she was playing a game or something.
Around ten when we go to leave and there's still
plenty of night left. I figured she tends to be
up until three or four in the morning, so get
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some sleep, girl. Well I mean he said you woke
up and she.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Texted like four hours later, so that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Oh, I was pretty pumped to get to spend the
rest of the night together. However, as we get in
the car, she asks her brother if it's cool that
she takes me to the hotel before they go home.
He says yeah, and I just get to sit and
shock the whole way back that she's too drained to
spend a couple of hours of quality time with her
boyfriend she just met. At this point, it's all starting
to catch up to me and I'm feeling pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So he's like, oh, I'm being left out.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, But the thing is, it seems like he's expecting
a lot more closeness, which is valid.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I mean, I do think that is valid, seeing that
he flew out to a country he's never been to
spend time with her, and.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
She's also calling him her boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, but not necessarily acting with the closeness that that
title kind of title.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
However, it's also kind of somewhat understandable that she's treating
him like a stranger or you know, a new friend,
because he is like they've never met in person.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I mean, I think they have enough closeness that at
least like the communication should be there, But it seems
like the main issue is that she's not spending time
with him. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I get back to the hotel room and I'm just
confused by this whole trip. I'm alone in a hotel
room in a country I don't know, with my girlfriend
a few minutes away, not knowing what to do, what
the heck is going on. I fear messaging her about
it is going to make her anxiety worse, But at
this point, I don't know what to do communicate. I
think that if you are afraid that you can't even
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communicate because of her anxiety, that's not gonna work. You
have to communicate, and also it probably would help with
alleviate some areas of anxiety, because she, you know, a
lot of anxiety, is making up terrible scenarios about, you know,
things that you don't know for sure. I'm set to
meet her mom in the evening for dinner, and at
this point I feel like I've met everyone except for
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my girlfriend, so I message for that. She's very apologetic,
saying her anxiety is through the roof still and she
wanted to make this trip worth it for me, but
she's just drained. She makes an effort to let me
know she's still very interested in everything, but she knows
if we're alone together nothing would happen because she's just
too nervous. She hasn't been in a relationship in a
couple of years, so it's hard for her. I tell her,
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I don't even want to try anything intimate. If that
was her fear. I've barely hugged her this trip, and
there's a lot more steps in that process before anything
like that could happen. I just want to spend more
quality time together, and she said tomorrow after I meet
her mom, there will probably be time. I mean, I
understand that he literally flew out, but it does feel
like everything is being rushed, and also simultaneously, this feels
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like the first meeting.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
It's like, let me introduce you to all my family
and all my friends, but also let's not spend too
much time together. I feel like if we were to
rewrite this a little bit and try to maybe take
it a little more balanced. On either side. It would
be like, let's not meet the whole family.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Let's not call each other boyfriend girlfriend until we met each.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Other, see how it is to hang out one on one,
and then maybe let's add the title of boyfriend and
all the parents meeting.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I do think it is fair that she wanted to
meet him with other people around. I think that's kind
of a safety thing. But I feel like it's weird
to do that and call him your boyfriend. I feel
like it sends some kind of mixed messages.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I feel like spending some time one on one, if
you want this relationship to progress, you gotta do it.
Might be scary, but you gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
All that said, today is my last day here. I
leave early tomorrow morning on a flight. I feel like
this whole thing has been a waste, and I'm still
just confused. I wanted to spend quality time with her,
not sit in a hotel room alone for most of
my trip. In my mind, she would want to be
with me every waking moment of the trip. Our time
is so short. We've talked about it for ages, and
I thought that was going to be the case. I
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don't know if the relationship can last after this, and
there are some comments and an update, any thoughts.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I mean, if she can't spend one on one time
with you, the relationship isn't gonna work. So yeah, I
can understand this kind of like this trip shaking your
trust in the relationship again. I would talk to her
about that as soon as you can.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
The problem is that everything that she's probably worried about
of getting to know you can't be fixed once you
go back to just an online relationship.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Exactly like that. He is right, this is precious time.
You gotta use it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Aren't you? On email says you have one more night
in this city you will probably not visit again. I say,
go out, explore the city with whatever time you have left,
find some cool local food stuff, and go to a
bar or two. Sorry, your trip has not worked out
like you would have liked it too, but might as
well make the most of what little time you have left.
Franjo Manjo says, you had to give it a shot,
but it sounds like it didn't work out. You need
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to be honest and tell her how this made you feel.
If she wants to keep seeing you, she's got to
travel to you next time. If she's too anxious for that,
then you're not compatible and wasting your time. Yesterday morning,
I woke up, made the original post, and waited nervously
for her to wake up. It once again took a
couple of hours. A little after noon, she finally messaged me.
Is this girl going at about at three in the
morning every day?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You know what time difference?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
She said. We had dinner in the later afternoon with
her mother, and I could uber over to her place whenever.
A few of you suggested I should just call off
the dinner plan, but I decided to stick it through.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I don't like how he traveled all the way over
to there and now he's having to like uber to her.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah. I went up to her place shortly after that,
and we spent some time watching things. She was having
a better day, so we sat close and while we
didn't do anything, a brother was in the small house.
It was some quality time I had been looking for,
so she brought it back.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Ah, dude, maybe she can save it, but I'm not
super hopeful right yet.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Dinner with her mother was great. We connected well, and
she seemed to genuinely be excited for me and her daughter.
We left with a hug from her mom and went
back to her place. It was a lot more of
the same thing as before, so while it wasn't alone
time with her, it did feel more one on one
and we had a good time. Was it exactly what
I was expecting on the last day of the strip?
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Not really, but was it nice? Definitely. It was getting
late and I was half expecting her to want me
to uber back, but she drove me herself. She helped
me confirm my packing for the fight early this morning,
and we ended with a kiss.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Okay, they smooched. We brought it back, let's go. I
think if they hadn't smooched, it would have been done
dead in the water, but the smooch. The smooch might
give it a few more months at the very least.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
We got to texting a bit and we realized she
hadn't taken a photo of us for a frame she
had bought. I was pretty sad that we hadn't, and
the few pictures of us from that weekend didn't really
fit the vibe she was going for. I mentioned that
I should just uber back. Ten minutes later, waiting for
a response, and she tells me to come down. Anxiety
be danged. She did drive back just for the photo
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and another goodbye smooch.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Okay, I think we are looking much better than the
last updates.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
So overall, it wasn't the perfect weekend, but I'm going
to stay cautiously optimistic. I think it was a mistake
to not make the trip longer. Honestly, it seems like
a couple days. Honestly, it probably would have been better
for you to have that kind of awkwardness buffer. We'll
we'll see how things go when she has to decide
if she wants to make the solo trip down here
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Speaker 1 (23:12):
Plus more days and days and days of NonStop audio
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Speaker 3 (23:17):
But there's a little bit left to this story. Do
you have the final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I mean, so what he said is like, I want
her to come to me next time. I doubt that
she's going to be able to if she's having this
much anxiety. On her home turf. There's no way she's
gonna get on a whole plane. She can't even get
in a car. She worked up to it, She worked
up to it. But I guess I'm just like, let's
see if she can handle you going there again.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I think you just have to talk about her chipping
into the flight stuff, you know. Like I think, in
her ideal world, it probably would have been best to
go for someone who is a little bit closer to home.
But this is kind of how it worked out, and
it seems like her anxiety's not gonna go away. It's
gonna be a big part part of your relationship.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I guess I just don't want him to build up
this expectation. She's like, Yeah, she's gonna come to me next,
you know, I just don't think that's realistic. But we
got a little bit more of the story.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Let's see to clear some things up. She's on medication
and goes to a therapist, though her current therapist is
very new to her. Normally I wouldn't be into a
long distant relationship, but our likes and interests a line well,
and it's something I've struggled to find around me. Back home,
my last relationship was decently long and taught me that
was something I valued a lot. And some last comments,
grim Work says, Hey, I just wanted to say that
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I get where you're coming from. Years ago, I met
someone online and we talked and connected in ways I
never had with another person. But she was three thousand
miles away from me. Me and the US her in
the UK. We did the whole online thing for months,
and even online it got spicy. But when she came
with her brother to meet me in New York, it
was weird for the first few days. I think the
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issue here is it was a very short time for her,
especially since she has all kinds of anxiety. Meeting you
was probably the most anxious thing for her, so in
a way, you were the reason why she was so standoffish.
I will say for me, it's now seventeen years later
and we've been married for fifteen of those I love
that I'm now in the UK with her after years
of her living in the US. For me, the bemused muse,
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I had an online friend and we were chatting for
a decade or more. It became a parent that we
were probably in love with each other. But one or
other of us has always been in a relationship. Well,
one day we were both single and we were like, well,
should probably find out. So I traveled five thousand miles
to see her and there was no spark. All the
ten years of friendship, flirting, closeness, nothing in person. Anyhow,
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my man, you're doing better than me. I wish you luck.
You know what I think this comment right before this comment,
I think had a great point of sometimes meeting people
in person is just really awkward, and then you need
a minute to get over the awkwardness. Like that's just
how it is.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So I'm meeting up with one of my friends that
I haven't seen in like five or six years for
the first time. I think that's going to be kind
of weird. I'm like, I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
But as at the end of that story, that is
the end of that story.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
My boyfriend's baby mama still calls him husband.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Should I leave, Well, don't let your husbands.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Stop you from finding your new husband. This isn't just
a little am I the a whole post. It's a
deep dive into two years of a relationship that started
with promises and quickly devolved into a confusing, often hurtful,
and ultimately unsustainable situation. I thirty four female, need your
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raw unfiltered judgment on whether I'm the villain for finally
choosing my well being by moving out even if it
shatters my boyfriend's forty two male feelings.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
And we're gonna give it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
We're gonna give you the raw on filteredness. By the way,
this comes from Space Apprehensive one ninety four And if
you want to submit your own stories, go to our
slash Okay story times. I'll write it. So our story
began about two years ago in a small rural town
in West Virginia. We're both working for the same staffing
agency where I was briefly his supervisor, and he says
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that to everybody knew that he stops in the street
and speaks. I was working directly under her, and then
I was working it directly under her. Weeks before our
contracts were set to expire, along with everyone else from
our agency, a romantic connection sparked, or so I thought,
what does that mean? He seemed to mirror everything I
liked and wanted, or we having a yes man on him.
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I mentioned my passion for travel, and suddenly he has
and was a seasoned traveler himself, recounting tales of job
hunting across various Latin American countries he identifies as Latino Caribbean.
I expressed my love for roses and the desire for
a partner who would surprised me with them, and he
declared himself a true romantic looking back at feels almost rehearsed.
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Then came the inevitable question, what were my plans after
our contracts ended? I had come to West Virginia from
a large city in or specifically seeking a change of
scenery and a place to heal. I was in the
midst of a particularly difficult time navigating the legal aftermath
of a felony case involving my ex boyfriend, where I
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was the victim and witness whoo. All I craved was
peace and a fresh start, and the temporary, well paying
job in West Virginia seemed like a perfect stepping stone.
I told him my plan was simple. Stay in West Virginia,
find a room or an apartment before the hotel we
were all temporarily housed, and punted everyone out, and that's
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when he made his move. He urged me to come
with him to Miami.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Don't do a girl, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You got a plan. You must give yourself your own sanctity. Anyway,
he framed it as taking our relationship seriously, dropping the
bombshell question, don't you want to put the eggs in already?
Don't you want to start a family? He even used
his cultural background, saying, come with me, us Latinos, we
take care of our girl. Being the hopeless romantic I am,
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and perhaps a little vulnerable in my desire for connection
and stability, I agreed. You don't shop at a grocery
store while hungry, and ideally, you don't get into a
relationship while desperate for connection. I had never been to Miami,
and the idea was exciting, a complete change from everything
I had been through. However, even before we packed our
bags from Miami, the first major red flag slapped me
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in the face. And again, none of what we saw
before was a red flag. Oh, that was normal.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
We're just getting to the red flags now.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Well, this is the red flag. I saw text messages
on his phone from a woman calling him my husband.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Girl.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That is more than a red flag. That is a
wingsuit made out of red going by you, just like
once a second.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I think he's someone's husband. If I were a hazard,
A guess.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I feel like I would believe it. Well. When I
confronted him, his explanation was dismissed. He claimed she was
his second baby mama.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Just finding out that he has children. He's got multiple
baby mamas and also multiple children, presumably that he hasn't
told you about.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
That they weren't actually married, and that he had told
her to stop using that term, but she persisted, just
like his first baby mama.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
He's like, they won't stop asking me for child support.
I keep telling them to leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You know what I actually think. I think they're both
still married, and I think he's doing a long distance
with all of them. That's my conspiracy theory. So my
alarm bells were ringing, but I perhaps foolishly tried to
keep and push my concerns aside, telling myself to keep
an eye on things, especially since they both lived outside
the US double marriage. I even had the stereotypical thought
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that maybe Latina's my own internalized bias is creeping in.
I admit could be crazy crazy. Once in Miami, living
in his rented place, things settled into a strange rhythm.
He paid the rent and covered expenses when we went
out well, I primarily handled the grocery shopping our mutual friends.
When I castually mentioned the baby mama situation, we're surprisingly nonchalant.
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They chocked it up to him being a man, charismatic
and easy to fall for.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Your friends were like, oh, he's such a man, having
two baby mamas.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Man is supporting so many people. It's like a small village.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
It's called community. I don't know who your friends are,
but maybe you should get friends with better advice.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Maybe it's just his friends and he's telling them all
the plant seeds their validation. Looking back feels like a
dismissal of my very real concerns. Then came the car.
We decided to get one and he was the only
one with a driver's license. I contributed two thousand of
my hard earned savings while he put in a thousand,
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promising to pay me back as soon as possible. What
happened to taking care of everything?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I thought his whole thing was like, you're gonna come
to Miami and I'm gonna take care of you.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Like op, he's taking care of you. Well, the irony
is thick here Not long after, I stumbled upon text
messages between him and one of his baby mamas discussing
the car. He referred to it as a vehicle for
the family, lamenting only the absence of her and their daughter.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
What that's his wife?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I think he has a whole second family. When I
confronted him, his excuse was that it was just to
make her feel good for their daughter's sake. Girl, He's
just making you feel good for your sake. My frustration
was mounting. I pressed him again about his marital status,
and his answer was infuratively vague. He said, maybe there
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is no maybe.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
In marriage, either you're married or you're not.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
He wasn't even sure because the government in their country
couldn't locate their marriage certificate, so it looked like no.
During this time, my already limited savings began to dwindle rapidly.
What happened to him paying for everything? I was unable
to secure employment in Florida without a work permit, which
was still in processing. I felt increasingly trapped independent. My
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initial plan of finding stability in West Virginia was completely
derailed by you.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
You turn that train off the tracks.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I don't want to blame Ope, you know, for being
swindled by a man that you know knew how to
wave red flags in a in a really fun way,
like one of those birds that just like jumps and
just like look at me dancing.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I don't want to blame op for being swindled by
Count Oloff in the most obvious disguise.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I do want to say, like, learn please, I hope
this has been a learning lesson.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
When a man comes to you and says I am
a stone off, it's probably Count Olof.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I am bachelor, o off, I totally don't have any
children or wives. Come with me, O way to Miami.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Normally I'd say, trust your gun.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I think your guts off. I clung to the hope
of returning to Virginia, where I knew getting a driver's
license would be easier, opening up possibilities for temporary work
like Uber while I waited for my work permit to
finally come through. As I felt more and more stuck,
his behavior began to shift. He oh, is your dependant?
He feels that he senses it. The initial charm seemed
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to fade, replaced by growing irritability and a lack of empathy.
Being confined to his apartment day in and day out,
unable to work or build any semblance of my own
life led me into a deep depression. Eventually, out of
sheer desperation, I started looking for staffing agencies that it
would accept the limited paperwork I had. I managed to
find a factory job and work there for about a
(34:24):
month until we finally made the move back to Virginia.
You're moving with him back to Virginia. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
He's going to realize, Oh, I have to leave him.
But you know what, this is a step because we're
going back to Virginia.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
And Virginia's where we felt good.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
We're kind of half on the track.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So for brief period, things felt somewhat normal until we
were involved in a car accident and lost the car,
the one I had contributed the majority of the funds for,
and the car accident seemed to be a turning point
for the worse.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I hope you guys have insurance.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Doesn't sound like it, Yeah, Yai. My anxiety was through
the roof and my distrust in him had solidified. I
started looking through his phone again. You obviously don't trust him.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
The thing is that if you look through the phone
and you see something that says red flag, you have
to take it for what it is. You can't just
be like, oh, well, someone's calling him their husband. I
guess I'll ignore that. And also if you're snooping through
someone's phone none.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I know it's not ideal, but my gut was screaming, finally,
you're got telling you something right. I discovered a series
of disturbing voice messages from his wife. One in particular
sent chills down my spine. She described a dream involving
a black hand with long nails, honestly suggesting that someone,
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presumably me, was doing something to him. At the same time,
he was confiding in me about his wife, calling her
by her first name, trying to create a sense of distance,
and claiming their marriage was over because he suspected her
of infidelity, something he apparently couldn't tolerate. The irony was
not lost on me. Then came the smallera, equally telling
(36:05):
incident that chipped away at my self respect. He asked
me to help him set up a Netflix account. I
explained the different plan options. He insisted on the cheapest
one with ads, and later I found a voice message
he sent to his wife complaining about my choice using
a deeply offensive and discriminary term. This dumb black did
that and falsely claiming he had asked for the AD
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free version, never communicated this preference to me. But the
absolute lowest blow, the one that truly revealed the depths
of his disrespect and cruelty, occurred during one of our
many arguments. So he's complaining to his wife, his actual wife,
that it seems like it's his actual wife about his
girlfriend Op getting the AD free version of Netflix.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, and also being racist towards her and OPI also
finds out that the wife is I guess accusing her
of witchcraft, apparently given that last sentence, did not break
up with him. After finding out that information.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Like to recount, the wife has not broken up, and
it seems like she knows n Op has not broken up,
and it seems like she knows what kind of game
is this man slinging that these people are not? Like, no,
I won't accept this, Like this guy must have something
going for him because he is an absolute trash bag
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and somehow he's got multiple people hook line and sinker
fallen for him.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
They're like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna crap talk the baby Mama,
I'm going to crap talk the girlfriend with my husband
slash boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Everyone knows, everyone freaking knows. I'm so confused. So in
the heat of the moment, he spat out the words
you deserve someone like your ex, someone who beat you
up and affected you. This was direct reference to horrific
trauma confided to him, and the very reason I saw
refuge in West virgin in the first place. The fact
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that he weaponized my pass against me is such a
vile way. Was a betrayal I couldn't comprehend. And then
he left right, No, no, no, I should have left then.
What I see that now with painful clarity, the final catalyst,
a moment I knew I had to escape. Happened last year.
Arguments had become frequent, and since our return from Miami,
his go to tactic was to punt me out of
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the house during these fights. One particularly exhausting day, after
another such argument, I was simply too drained to play
his game. I told him, with a wary finality, that
I was moving out. So he reacted by storming out
of the house, and in a petty act of control,
he took some of my belongings with him. I was
left in town where I had few connections, in no
immediate place to go. Exhausted, defeated, I fell asleep while
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half heartedly packing. My phone jolted me awake. It was
his mother. I initially ignored the calls, not in the
mood for any drama. I assumed she wanted to speak
to her son, as she often called me when she
couldn't reach him directly.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
So the mom is aware of you, and also were
of the wife.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
How did everyone know about this? And everyone's log sounds good?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Like absolutely, it seems like this is getting into an
place chip. This is not a good relationship at all.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
The Mama's boy label felt increasingly accurate, but then came
the barrage of demanding voice messages. Her tone was sharp,
almost accusatory, insisting I pick up the phone. When I
finally did, her tone was surprisingly gentle. She asked if
I could vacate her son's apartment because a cousin was
coming to stay. I told her I hadn't found anywhere yet,
and she retorted with a lie, claiming he had told
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her I had found a place but was refusing to leave.
I told her I would call her son, which she
strongly advised against. Of course I called him. He was
furious with his mother, vehemently denying that a cousin was
coming and expressing his disappointment in her for interfering.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
His mom is trying to get you out of there.
His mom's trying to help you.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
He told me not to listen to her and not
to leave. He even spoke with his mother, who later
sent me a sheepish apologetic voice message. But the damage
was done. My trust in both of them was eroded.
That trust should have been eroded eons ago. I feel
like this is the grand canyon. That crap has been
eroded for millions of years. Yet you're sitting there is like,
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is there a canyon here? Or is this just like
a little stream? Well days later, driven by a need
to understand the full extent of their conversation, I looked
at his phone again. What I found were audio messages
between him and his mother from that day. He berated
her for causing trouble and not consulting him before contacting me,
and then came his mother's worried response about his temper
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and character, and then his reply. He dismissed the situation,
stating that she will leave eventually. It's just that she
doesn't want to let go of the titties. He was
referring to me, implying that my inability to leave stem
from some form of dependence on him in the most
vulgar and demeaning way imaginable. Is he talking about like
his financial titties.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
He's like the titties of my money.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
What money? She was your supervisor and she paid more
for the car. You have no money. He was absolutely
no idea. I heard this. This was the ultimate betrayal.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Not every betrayal could be the ultimate one. You have
said this is the ultimate betrayal, like six times.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
And again each time you stay, and then you really.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
It's the ultimate betrayal. I couldn't go back.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Well, here we are in the present. A few weeks ago,
the landlord of our complex reached out informing me of
an available apartment. Big win. Without a second thought, I said, yes, yes, Opie, Yes, Well,
surface level interactions with my boyfriend might seem relatively calm
most because I've emotionally detached and I'm actively avoiding conflict.
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The truth is the way of the past two years,
the manipulation, the disrespect, the emotional. The blatant disregard for
my feelings and well being has finally pushed me to
my breaking point.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Thank god, I'm proud of you, Opie.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I hate that you're at a breaking point, but this
crap needed to break a long time ago. So long
the apartment represents not just a change of address, but
a chance to reclaim my life, my sanity, and my
self respect. By the way, if you have any self
respect at all, you would have listened to our podcast,
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But how can we not get in situations like this?
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Well, I think it's just recognizing the signs when they start.
So the science here was this man was trying to
be exactly what you.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Wanted and trying to say, baby, don't worry about a thing.
I got you.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, So he's trying to make you dependent on him.
He's trying to isolate you by bringing you to Miami
he's making himself into this per pon. Like when you
see a person and you start dating a person and
they seem maybe too perfect, and you're like.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Wow, if a person never disagrees with you, they're probably
not sharing what they actually think. But we got a
little bit more of this story. So after hearing every
single painful detail, am I the A hole for prioritizing
my own desperate need for a safe, independent, and peaceful
existence by moving out, even if it shatters the feelings
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of a man who consistently has shown me profound lack
of consideration kindness. I am tired of feeling like an afterthought,
a convenience. I deserve my own space, my own peace,
and to finally heal from the emotional wounds this relationship
has inflicted. Lay your judgment. I'm ready or as ready
as I can be.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Obviously, not the A hole for that, Yeah, leave self
a hole for staying so long, but not the a
hole for leaving please leave.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
No, you're not the a hole for leaving. You're the
a hole to yourself for saying get out of that thing.
So that is the end of that story. Hey's johniog
host here. We're gonna get back to the stories, but
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Speaker 5 (44:08):
I called the cops on my brother because my parents.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Wouldn't address his actions.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Police.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
My mommy won't ground my brother.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Hello, police, I'd like to tattle.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
It's probably a lot more serious than that.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
March sixteenth, twenty twenty five. This is a recent one.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Me nineteen female, and my brother, seventeen male have never
really gotten along. He's always been kind of reckless, but
lately he's been getting worse, sneaking, out, lying, and now stealing.
By the way, this comes from Glimmeringly in fifty six
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash okay storytime Supreddit.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
So a few days ago, I noticed some money missing
from my room.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
I don't keep a ton of cash, but I had
about three hundred dollars saved up for something important and
that was all gone. At first, I thought I misplaced it,
but then I checked my brother's room and guess what,
found some bills crumpled up in his drawer.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I confronted him and he straight up denied it. Even
when I showed him the money. He said he ftarted outside, like, bro,
be serious.
Speaker 7 (45:06):
I mean, technically, is that even a lie outside of
what his room?
Speaker 6 (45:10):
Just like I found it outside, I'd say it was
outside of my pocket. It was outside my It's.
Speaker 7 (45:15):
Like a good old wife like if you if you
zoom out far enough, it's like, that's not even a lot,
I guess.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
I told my parents, expecting them to back me up,
but they brushed it off, like he's just a kid.
He probably needed it for something that pissed me off.
So I told my parents either he gives it back
or I called the cops. They didn't take me seriously,
so I actually did it.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (45:36):
So you were actually on point, You're like, oh, now
on one, I'd like to tattle.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's an adventure time reference, not get him
arrested or anything, but just to scare him. The cops came,
talked to him and made him give the money back.
They didn't charge him, just gave him a warning. Now
my family is mad at me, saying I took it
too far and should have just let my parents handle it.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
They weren't gonna handle it, yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
But they weren't going to do anything, and I'm tired
of him getting away with stuff?
Speaker 3 (46:04):
So am I the a hole for calling the cops
on my own brother? And there's additional information?
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Really quick, Opie says wild how I'm the bad guy
for expecting basic respect and not wanting my money to
mysteriously disappear.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Guess accountability is optional in this family? So what do
we think? Quick answer? Am the ahle or not?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
How much money was it?
Speaker 3 (46:21):
It's three hundred dollars?
Speaker 6 (46:22):
Oh, not the hole?
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
The consensus was that Opie is not the a hole
from all the comments. So we do have an update though,
all right, So update March seventeenth, the very next day.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
So things have been awkward as heck. At home.
Speaker 5 (46:35):
My parents are still acting like I'm the villain, and
my brother has been giving me the silent treatment, which
honestly isn't the worst thing in the world. But here's
where it gets interesting. Turns out I wasn't the only
one he was stealing from. A few days after everything
went down, my mom pulled me aside and admitted that
some of her money has been gone missing too. Would
you look at that, huh?
Speaker 7 (46:55):
Now when the shoes on the other foot, it's pretty stinky,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah? She thought this.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
He had just misplaced it, but now she's realizing it
was probably him. I didn't say I told you so,
even though I really wanted to, but I just gave
her a look and was like.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah, exactly. Now my parents are finally taking it seriously.
But instead of.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Being mad at him, they're talking about how he's just
going through a phase and how they don't want to be.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Too hard on him. Girl, he's seventeen, he's about to
be an adult.
Speaker 7 (47:20):
Yeah, it's like, if you want to be hard on him,
now's the time to do it, because if you wait
much longer, you know who's gonna be hard on him.
Speaker 6 (47:26):
The state.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Yeah, you can go to jail for real.
Speaker 6 (47:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
Meanwhile, he's still stopping around the house acting like I
ruined his life. At this point, I've just distanced myself completely.
I'm keeping my door locked and not leaving anything valuable
around and honestly counting down the days until I can
move out.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
Oh brother, Okay, guys, come on. Family meeting. Family meeting
needs to happen now.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
Yeah, didn't expect this to get so much attention, but
I really appreciate all the comments. It helps me see
that I wasn't overreacting, and honestly, it's been reassuring to
know that I wasn't crazy for standing my ground.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
So do I feel bad?
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Do I regret it? Still?
Speaker 4 (47:59):
No?
Speaker 5 (47:59):
If no one else else is going to hold him accountable,
at least now he knows I will. And there's some
additional information from Ope, didn't think this would blow up
like it did. Be glad to know I wasn't reacting.
Keeping my guard up from now, Thank you guys. There's
some comments. So one of the comments says, good for
you for standing your ground. Unaddressed phases, it becomes a
way of life. Oh he doesn't know it, but you're
the only one actually interested in helping your brother.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
That's a good point.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
Bars the bars right there.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah, unaddressed phases become ways of life.
Speaker 6 (48:26):
Yeah, that's like an okay fortune right there.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, I'll just kip to comment. But three.
Speaker 5 (48:30):
Also, people need to stop acting like teenagers are just kids,
as if they simply don't know any better and can't
help it. If they don't or can't, yes, they're still
technically not adults, but that doesn't mean that they can
do whatever they want without consequence. They're old enough to
know better. Heck, ten is old enough to know better
much of the time. I'm just so sick of enabling parents. Yeah, honestly,
like what age do.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
You think it is really when you learn like stealing
is bad? Five? Like what swipe or no swipe?
Speaker 5 (48:57):
As Yeah, exactly, And that's just the thing with parents,
like at all. It's like, yeah, it's probably not gonna
be much of an issue. However you have to still
punish them for that and like hand get them in
trouble because they have to learn that they can't do that.
So it's like the same thing when this man is
six seventeen, this is way like, yeah, this is not
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just a phase that you could just let pass, you
know what I mean. Yeah, there's another update, so March twentieth.
This is three days later now, so things have escalated
a bit since my last update. My parents finally started
taking things more seriously, but not in the way I expected.
Instead of actually holding my brother accountable, they're now in
full on damage control mode, acting like this whole thing
is just a family issue that got blown out of proportion.
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A few days ago, my dad sat me down and
basically told me that I need to let this go
because my brother is apparently really struggling and I might
think we're just by involving cops. He said that my
brother feels like I betrayed him and that I should
be the bigger person and try to fix the thing. Meanwhile,
my brother, yeah, no, he hasn't apologized, hasn't even acknowledged
what he did. He's just soulking around the house acting
like I ruined his life, and now he's trying to
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turn things on me and telling family members that I
overreacted and made things way worse than they were. I
have completely checked out at this point. My parents are
clearly more worried about keeping the peace than actually teaching
them consequences, and I'm just tired of I'm looking at
moving out sooner than I plan, because honestly, I don't
feel like being in a house where my own stuff
isn't safe, and I'm the bad guy for expecting a
basic respect. Not sure if I'll update again, but yeah,
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that's where things stand. Didn't think calling out theft would
turn into a full family drama, but here we are
additional information. Didn't think standing up for myself would turn
into a whole family crisis, but I guess expecting basic
respect was too much to ask.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
That's kind of the same thing. But there are some comments.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
One of them says, they're saying to keep it in
the family, right, I'm not seeing any specifications of immediate family.
Maybe talk to some extended family and have them give
their opinions as well.
Speaker 6 (50:49):
Come in.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Number two says, turn it.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
Around, Ask dad, is it a bigger problem if brother
learns that it's okay to steal or if he's hurt
from a little valid feedback.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
That's a good point.
Speaker 7 (50:59):
Yeah, and brother learn it's not okay to steal when
he gets inevitably arrested for you, exactly as an adult,
exactly where they don't just go and we're going to
give you a little warning.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Right, the common continues.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
Or tell dad if he feels like it's no big deal,
he can give you the three hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Waked that up. See if he likes.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
Losing three hundred dollars, not the a hole. There's a
few more comments, but yeah, basically say the same update.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Now there is another off. Give any final thoughts really
quick before we jump in.
Speaker 7 (51:27):
No accountability folks, pass it on. I mean, like, exactly
if it was twenty bucks, I'd be like, you went
too far. It's three hundred dollars and he's seventeen.
Speaker 4 (51:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
There is another update March twenty fourth, four days later.
Speaker 5 (51:38):
So I ended up having another conversation with my parents,
mostly because I couldn't keep walking around the house with
this giant cloud over everything. I told him again that
I'm not trying to ruin anyone's life. I just want
to live in a home where my stuff doesn't get
touched and I'm not made out to be the problem
for setting a boundary. My mom kind of softened a
bit and admitted that they might have been too quick
to defend him, but she also said that they were
just scared of.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Pushing him further away. I get that, I really do.
But I told her that protecting him doesn't mean ignoring
the things that he's doing.
Speaker 7 (52:04):
And that's a cop out, dude, because you literally went
to them and was like, hey, he stole my money,
like we need to do something about this, and they thought, oh,
he probably needed it for something. That's not being like.
Speaker 6 (52:13):
Well, I don't want to push him away. That's in
a complete dismissal.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Of an issue.
Speaker 5 (52:17):
Absolutely, my brother still hasn't apologized directly, but he did
stop talking crap about me to the rest of the family.
I think someone, maybe my aunt, told him that he
was being immature and making it worse for himself.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Good job.
Speaker 5 (52:27):
Since then, things have been quieter, not better, just less tense.
I've started looking at part time jobs and roommate listening
so I can move out sooner. I don't hate my family,
I'm just tired of being treated like I'm the one
who crossed the line for wanting basic trust and honestly
in my open home anyway. I didn't think i'd post
a third update, but I guess I wanted to say
thank you to everyone who helped me feel like.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
I wasn't insane.
Speaker 5 (52:48):
Still kind of stinks, but at least now I know
I'm not alone, and who knows, if things get weirder,
maybe there'll be before. Another comment says moving out sounds like
the healthiest option. You deserve peace, not tension in your
own home.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
Comment to number two.
Speaker 5 (53:01):
Says, oh, pee, tell your mom that she doesn't have
to worry about pushing him away because in less than
three years he will be in prison and won't be
able to get away from them. Tell her that they
have created this monster, so don't act the victim when
the spoiled, enabled and title boy becomes a spoiled, enabled,
entitled man.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
But when you're an adult, it isn't just boys will
be boys. Thing you steal, you go to jail, tell
her that this is the future they have made for
their son.
Speaker 7 (53:25):
The other thing is it's like, uh, I think someone
said this earlier because it's like, well, it's like the
comment of like, well, maybe he needed the money for something.
It's like, yeah, I wonder what a seventeen year old
would need three hundred dollars.
Speaker 6 (53:35):
For, probably nothing good. Yeah, Also too, what is he
getting with three hundred bucks?
Speaker 5 (53:41):
Yeah? If he needed it so bad, then wouldn't you
have spent it already? It was sitting on his deskled up.
Speaker 7 (53:46):
I mean, those are the times where people get into substances,
They get into the drinking, they get into the whatever.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah, and it's like, what's it like, if you money,
then why wouldn't they be like, Okay, I'll give you
the money.
Speaker 5 (53:59):
Oh as your parents will give you the money if
you really need it, right, It's like if you if
this isn't like a.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Oh I really don't want to upgrade my PC.
Speaker 7 (54:06):
It's like it's like, uh, who knows, or maybe he's
just a thief, and it's like, you know, people develop
a thing where it's like I just like I like
taking things that aren't mine.
Speaker 6 (54:16):
Exactly exactly anyone seen Tintin.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
But I mean that last comment there was the end
of the story. So that was it.
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Speaker 3 (54:48):
My wife is obsessed with going to Disney World, and
I'm so tired of it.
Speaker 4 (54:53):
I'll go with your wife. Yeah, I'll marry your wife.
That's fine. I'm I'm not a Disney adult. I'm I
got dox myself, but I love Disney my if.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Jess and I have been married for the past thirteen years.
We're both thirty nine. After experiencing financial hardship throughout our
twenties and early thirties, Jess and I are now fortunate
enough to have the means to travel once or twice
a year. The only problem is that Jess literally only
wants to go to Disney World. We have been to
Disney nine times now, and every vacation we have ever
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taken together it was to go there, including our honeymoon.
By the way, this comes from either Ambassador of fifty
four and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to our slash. Okay, storytime separate it. So we go.
We eat Mickey Mouse ice cream, we wear the mouse ears,
we stay in the official hotels. Ok We see the characters,
we ride the rides, we take pictures in front of
Cinderella's castle, and we come home every.
Speaker 4 (55:42):
Trip perfect day. I hope you come home after the trip.
Where are you going to go?
Speaker 3 (55:46):
I'm honestly beyond sick of Disney, and I never really
like going in the first place. Jess knows this, but
she has no concept of travel beyond Disney. We are
currently planning a trip for April, and Jess, as usual,
said that we can just go to Disney. I explained
that it sounds fun, but hey, why don't we go
somewhere like Hawaii? This time Jess was confused. She asked
why we would go to Hawaite. I responded that we
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could enjoy the spas and go to the beach. Jess
mumbled a half hearted answer and walked away. A few
days later, she approached me saying that she made hotel
reservations for Hawaii. At first, I was excited because although
she did so without consulting me, it seemed like she
was really listening.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
I think I know where.
Speaker 3 (56:24):
But then when she showed me the hotel she booked,
I found she had made reservations for Alani, the Disney
resort in Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
I knew it.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
I knew it.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Drive me crazy if I had already expressed to my partner,
Hey like, Disney's fun, but let's try something new, let's
go to a different place. And they're like yeah, and
then still chose the one Disney thing.
Speaker 4 (56:45):
Can we say this? Can we say that sound sponsorship?
Speaker 3 (56:48):
It's a hate?
Speaker 4 (56:48):
Oh okay, well I'm gonna say yeah that your wife
is one of those Disney adults.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
I think she's like literally has an addiction.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
Yeah, it's an addiction that to not be.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Able to go to any other place is so actially
when you know your partner doesn't like it.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Listen, get, I get. It's the most magical place on earth. Yeah,
there are other places you can go.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
You got to expand your horizons.
Speaker 4 (57:07):
Especially that she's not being fair to you. Yeah, because
you're going to what she wants to do exactly and
you're tired of it.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
Like at that point, I'd be like, girl, you can
do it if you want, but I'm going to y
Murray universal Frustrated. I told her that I'm honestly tired
of Disney and that I just want to have different
experiences this time. She told me that she was compromising
with me. It's not a compromise and that I should
be appreciative for the time she spent. I asked her
if she was willing to consider anything other than Disney
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for our trip, and she said no. At this point,
I said that I wasn't going. Now she's furious, she
canceled the reservation she made, and now she's looking for
a friend to go to Disney World with again without me.
Was I the a hole here for not trying to
accommodate her request?
Speaker 4 (57:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (57:50):
No, no, because you've already accommodated nine times and you said, hey,
let's go somewhere else. And she tried to trick you
and then didn't at all listen to you when you said, hey,
I like, I don't want.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (58:00):
When he said Hawaii, I knew about the Hawaii Hotel
and I was like, all.
Speaker 3 (58:04):
Yeah, he's like, let's go to France, and she's like.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
Okay, we're going to go to the European Japan.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (58:11):
Yeah, It's just like, that's not that No, No. Disney.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Commenter one says, how the f did this go on
for nine trips without you saying something? I'd have gone
mad after going a second time. Commoner two says, uh,
does she realize there's a whole non Disney world out
there and as and it's much less expensive with shorter.
Speaker 4 (58:28):
Line, I can show you the world I can't.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
Commoner three, However, you should also consider being more truthful
with your wife. If you can't even be truthful to
your wife, who can you be truthful with? It Obviously
did not sound fun at all to you, so just
be clear on that. In fact, the second time she
booked the Disney trip, you should have been honest with
her and suggested something else. Common Er four says, at
thirty nine, it might be time to consider broadening her
horizons and embracing more of what the world has to offer.
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Life is too short to be spent solely between home
and Disney when there's so much out there waiting to
be explored. And there is an update. But yeah, I
think it's like, sometimes you find it's really hard traveling
with people who have just like the opposite travel styles
to you, and this is like the most opposite, because yeah,
it's just Disney World, because like for me, I don't
like going on trips where it's just like like he
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was saying, Oh, I want to go to a spa
and like resort on. That's not my travel style. I
would not like to do that. And it seems like
she only wants to go to Disney World and.
Speaker 4 (59:23):
You don't like to do that, so like, hey, let's
do what you want to do and then we'll do
it when I will. Would you compromise? It's very selfish
of her, It's very selfish.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yeah, But there is an update. About a week ago,
I made a post about an argument my wife Jess
and I had. The TLDR version of it is just
loves going to Disney World and we have gone there
for literally every trip during our marriage, which is now
at an impressive nine times. When I asked Jess if
we could go somewhere like Hawaii, she suggested Alani, the
Disney resort, and I dismissed the idea immediately. This upset Jess.
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Here is the update I screwed up. I know most
people were giving me the not the a whole judgment,
but Jess actually showed a great deal of openness to
my idea. Took a initiative by reserving the hotel because
she wanted me to be happy. When I said Nope,
no Disney, she felt that I hadn't put any effort
into taking her feelings into consideration.
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
You're being ghastly and you're following for it. You for it,
you felt for it.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
She's not taking your feelings into considerations. She's trying to
slip one past.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Yet she's making you feel bad because you're like, oh, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
She's pouting in the corner, going I did this for you. No,
she did it for her, and she was completely right.
I hadn't. It was, in a twisted way, my form
of revenge for dragging me to Disney World all those times.
In the last post, some people commented about how Alani
barely even looks like a Disney resort at all. This
is something I should have researched myself before I threw
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the gauntlet down with Jess. When I looked into it,
it looks like a run of the mill Hawaiian resort.
In my defense, going to Disney World nine times has
kind of made me sensitive, and I'm fairly sure that
on urshock test i'd see nothing but mouse ears at
this point. Yes, but I really should not have jumped
to conclusions. A day after I made the I approached
Jess and apologized I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
No, No, it's so hard like this job.
Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Yes, she might be a Disney adult, but aside from
always wanting to go to their theme parks, she's never
obnoxious about it. I said I was sorry again and
asked for permission to preserve the hotel again, and Jess
responded that she'd love to go to Elanie with me
when I told her that it's not really all that
Disney just said. Of course, I knew that I wanted
to go because my sister said it was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
It's a nightmare.
Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
This is a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
I'm a moron. Yeah, that's true, Jess and I have
replanned our vacation and we're super excited to be going now.
I came to this realization because a lot of people
pointed out some things I should have figured out myself.
Thank you comments. Who are I think saying what we're saying?
Commoner one? Man? Did you get gaslot nine FFing vacations
in a road to Disney? Did she take your feelings
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into account any of those nine times? Nope? Common Er two,
what do you mean she's never been obnoxious about it?
She dragged you to Disney nine times in your marriage,
ignoring your communicating that you wanted to go somewhere else
when you put your foot down, she scheduled the tenth
Disney vacation, just at a different Disney location.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I like.
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
I like this line. The next line is this even?
Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Ope? Did she tie you up and gag you with
Mickey mouse ears typing on your account? Because her behavior
is not okay? And a tenth Disney trip when you
said no more Disney is zero compromise on her part.
Do you need to be extracted? You need to communicate respectfully, calmly,
and like adults. Maybe this is a good bridge to
less Disney centric vacations. Maybe not, but unless you communicate
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your frustrations, you're going to be going to something Disney
theme next time. To update two, Hi again everybody. This
situation all started because my wife, Essin and I had
an argument about going to Disney World on vacation again.
I didn't want to go because we had already been
nine times. And when I suggested why just made reservations
for Alannie, which is a Disney owned resort, HI immediately
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he rejected this idea, mistakenly believing it was just another
Disney vacation. Eventually, I realized that I was wrong and
that Alanni was a perfectly fine compromise. Unfortunately, we're not
going to Alani for our upcoming vacation. A couple of
days after Christmas, Jess had a minor car accident. She
mistook the drive for reverse and backed into her garage door.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
What okay?
Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
And I found Jess holding her neck in the car. Oh.
When I heard the lound bang, I ran outside and
I found Jess holding her neck in the car. I
immediately drove her to the hospital where she got X
raised one. She seemed fine, but the doctor said that
based on her symptoms, headache, neck pain, numbness in her fingers.
She could have whiplashed.
Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
How hard did she If you're backing your car up
like you press the pedal, you could back up pretty ding.
Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Jess and I figured that she would be fine in
a couple of days, but almost two weeks later, she
is still complaining about back pain. Yesterday, she approached me
saying that she wasn't confident she could go to Hawaii
in a few months.
Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
A few months. No no no, Sophia, no no no
no no no no, Sophia, donner no, do not do not.
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
I see you.
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Oh read it? Read it please?
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
I asked what she wanted to do, and while apologizing profusely,
she asked me if we could postpone that trip. I
responded that she's absolutely nothing to apologize for. After that,
she said that she felt bad about not being able
to go to Hawaii, but she might be able to
make it to Disney World. You freaking liar, You freaking liar.
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She set it all up. She didn't have wit lash,
or if she did, it went away after a couple
of days. And I've had with blas, I've had whiplash.
I was in a car accident on a freeway, and
I probably had worse whiplash than her. It went away
after at most a week. An yeah, I know a
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person who had it for like a month. There's no
way that she backing into a car like a garage
would have had it for more than a week.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Who is this woman?
Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Liar well, I didn't understand at first. She told me
that it has a very high accessibility and in worst
case scenarios, ecv rentals. She doubts that will be necessary,
but assured me that we could take it there. I
know that this isn't the conclusion people here wanted, and
it's certainly not what I wanted to do with my
next vacation, but Jess's health has to come first here,
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you idiot.
Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I'm gonna pull a Sophia.
Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
You're an idiot. We've made our reservations. It's not where
I want to go, but just is super happy right now. Shocking.
This is not shocking. This is not and that's what
matters most to me. Thank you for all your input,
which you didn't listen to comment or one. A resort
is infinitely more relaxing and easier than Disney, even for
non injured people. I think you got played, buddy, Disney
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adults be scheme and Commoner two says, dang, she's good
a master manipulator. Time to get out, bro, or you
gotta be miserable for the rest of your life. Commonda
three says, she literally did that on purpose. LMO, you
keep getting sucked into it, and you'll get sucked into
it because you have no backbone. Good luck with the
rest of your life. And there is an update.
Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
There is an update, and this is the most aggravating
story I think we've ever read.
Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
If this update isn't, I'm so my wife tricked me
into going to Disney, and I realized, and then I,
you know, separated from her because I realized that she's
gaslit me throughout all of our time together. Then I
don't want it.
Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice. Shame
on Hugh full me three times. You're just a fool
Update three.
Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
So long story short. Last week, Jess overplayed her hand.
I'm sorry. That was the most obvious plot I've ever seen.
Even before that, I found her recounting of the car
accident and the extent of her injuries suspicious. When she
doesn't know I'm watching. She moves normally, we'll pick things
up off the floor, and generally seems perfectly healthy. When
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she sees me nearby, she exaggerates every movement, holds her
lower back and limbs well. On Saturday, Jess approach to
me saying that she wanted to move. I wonder where
she wants to move to, perhaps sunny Florida. This made
no sense. We had so little money throughout our twenties
and early thirties, and now we're financially well off, solely
(01:07:14):
because I finally have an amazing job in her area.
Jess that she understood this, but she argued that she
wanted to live closer to her parents. She asked me
to move to Orlando with her. So, first off, her
parents do not live in Orlando. They live in Atlanta,
no Way, which is smack dab right in between where
we currently live in Orlando.
Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
She's psychotic.
Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Jess cited there being more flight options, and then she
tackled on that she may have a job opportunity in Orlando.
When I asked her to show me the job, she
showed me a sixteen dollars per hour sales associate position
for a sector where she has absolutely zero knowledge and experience.
That's a terrible job prospect. I'm sorry, you're moving for
sixteen dollars an hour. That's like, that's the that's terrible.
(01:07:54):
This is insane. Why would you move for minimum wage?
Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
This is insane.
Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
I mean, actually, I don't know if that's minimum wage
in Florida. I'm not proud of this, but I snapped, Finally, brother, finally.
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
What did you say? Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I told her she just wanted to move closer to
Disney World, that she was tearing our lives up so
she could go take pictures with Disney princesses, and that
she was a horrible life. All true, all true facts.
Just deny this naturally. And she told me that she's
moving to Orlando with or without me because her parents
need her. Okay, bye, let her go, dude, let her go.
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Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
This is one of the craziest stories.
Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Insane, insane word No, the worst part, it's not even
like that, she's insane. And like a full on Disney adult.
It's that he didn't catch on to any of it.
Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
I mean both, both, both, No, both, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Both, but it's it's coupled with that he's stupid.
Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
I think this is one of the one of the
stories where I get the most aggravated, because the Internet
is never wrong, and you still and.
Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
You're ignoring it, and you're ignoring it three times in
her After this, Jess went to her room and started
listening to Disney music with the volume at max, singing along.
Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
I guarantee you is let it Go.
Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I listened to rendition of let It Go. Oh my God,
oh yo yo correct more times than I can count.
Maybe it refers to me here. The next morning, she
told me that she was moving to Orlando with her
without me, and said that if I want to be
a piece of crap husband, I can just stay where
I am. I'm going to just be a piece of
crap husband. I've tried. I've tried to deny the obvious
(01:09:28):
because it would make just happy, but I can't anymore.
I just want to be alone. I wasn't responding to
your comments, but they've helped me more than you can know.
Thank you to everyone who posted and commentar One says
Jess has truly reached the ultimate level of Disney obsession,
moving just to be closer to Disney World. We stand
a committed fan. Opie says, yeah, I'm nothing idiot for
(01:09:48):
going along with it this long. I just wanted her
to be happy. Commenter says, let her go, Let her go.
Opie says, dude, please, and she kept delivering that the
code never bothered me anyway. Such a caddyway. Like, Bro,
you're moving to Florida. It's the end of January and
it's seventy one having degrees there, and that's the end
of that story.