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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
I just found out I had a son after eighteen years.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Truth is never too late.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
And it's I'm Not Your Father's Week on Okay Storytime,
where we're diving into jaw dropping paternity twists and family
confessions that I'll have you asking is this really my dad?
But let's dive into this one. So my world has
been turned upside down over the last twenty four hours.
I've got two kids, eight and two or so. I thought.

(00:44):
My oldest has an assignment for school to write and
report on an interesting relative. My family is boring, but
I did recall having a great great great granduncle who
was a member of Congress, so I thought we'd start there.
I logged into ancestry and had a notification you and
random woman's name share DNA. Thought it was probably a
distant cousin or something clicked it it said predicted relationship

(01:09):
parent child. I called my mom to make sure her
account didn't get hacked, since I knew she had it done.
She said she used twenty three and meters for testing.
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I looked up this woman on Facebook came to the
realization that this was someone I hooked up with in college.

(01:32):
I used truth Finder to find out more about her.
She appears to be married as a husband, an older kid,
and two younger kids. They look like the typical suburban family.
The older kid looks like as awkward as I did
as a teenager. That's different, He's like that looks like
a nerd version of me. They both look think nerds,
spitting image. I'm guessing she did a test for him

(01:55):
using her name. I have a flood of emotions right now,
anger being the first. If my math is right, he's
around eighteen. Don't remember the exact timing, and I've missed
out on basically his entire childhood. I hate when we
read stories about parents who find out that they've had

(02:15):
this child rutten around that they never knew about. And
you know, this is not like scenarios where the person
is dangerous or you know or etc. I was absolutely
in no place to raise a kid at the time
in my life and probably wouldn't have ended up being
able to go to med school. At the same time,
I never got the choice no, and that's what upsets

(02:38):
me more. I know my family would have helped me out.
I haven't told anyone this, not even my spouse. I'm
wrestling with guilt. I really want to reach out. I
don't want to throw turmoil into a family, but I
also feel like I shouldn't have to miss out on
more of his life. He has an Instagram account, but
it's private and reaching out straight to him would be overwhelming,

(02:59):
not to mention creepy. Where do I start? Do I
call ancestry, reach out to her directly? Do I get
a lawyer? I don't even know how that works because
I live abroad. Now thanks in advance and there are
some comments and an update. My first thought is good,
Absolutely tell your spouse immediately, you know, go talk to

(03:20):
your spouse right away. I'd be like, hey, I just
found out that I have a kid that I didn't
know about totally before you. Of course this was in college. Yeah,
and then you guys can kind of work out what
to do from there.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
You definitely don't want it coming from someone else.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Now you have to get ahead of this asap.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Hey learn something new by your husband.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, it's like, hey, Speedy, I thought we could get
dinner and I could tell you about my eighteen year
old child that I just found out about.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
How you even like ice break that?

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I think you go, Hey, I have to talk to
you about something. But there is a consensus saying that
he needs to tell his partner and figure it out
from there. I agree. Notable comment. I'm in my forties
and I did ancestry to find out who my father was.
And I have some advice for you. Talk to your
wife first and make sure she is one hundred percent

(04:09):
a part of your plan and feels like she has
a part of it too. She is going to be
a huge support system for you. Reach out to the
bio mom. The reason she took the test is likely
because she didn't know who the father was, and there
were several options. That was the situation in my case
for my mother, and she was ashamed. If the mother
refuses contact with you and you still want contact with him,

(04:30):
I would wait until he is of age and then
reach out to him yourself, which he is already.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Of age, so you're good, go for it.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
The pieces of my life came together when I met
my biological father and his family. I finally looked like
someone and felt like I belonged somewhere. That may not
be his case, but you don't know what's going on.
It sounds dramatic, but I truly felt like a piece
of a missing puzzle came together. The reason I mentioned
your wife is because she has a huge part in this.
My biological father's wife has been so amazing and welcoming

(04:59):
to me. If she hadn't been, it would have been
a totally different scenario. She had the chance to make
me feel welcome in their home or not, and it
was already a very nerve racking situation meeting them. Expect
there to be awkwardness. I'm an adult forming adult relationships
with a man who wants to take on a father
role with me, and a brother and sister who are
very close with each other that I have forty years

(05:21):
of history with one another. When we are all together,
I get quiet, and it's hard for me because the
children he raised feel very comfortable around him, understandably so,
and I feel a bit like a third wheel. These
aren't things I say. I'm just saying that at times
it can feel a bit awkward for me. But my
bio dad never makes me feel bad if he senses

(05:41):
me pulling away, he's very patient. I live in a
state where I need to take a plane to visit
my biofather and there is an update.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I like that comment a lot.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, it's like you're about to have a you know,
I mean, you've always had a child, but you're about to,
like hands on have a child. Maybe.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, And we got a comment from the child's point
of view years later, so you kind of get a
bit of the inside of what to expect.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, I mean, you're gonna have these you know, old
grown person who has been raised by totally different people
and maybe is seeking connection with you, and you got
to be really patient. You can't, you know, force that
connection to happen. Yeah, because you are a stranger even
though you're related. So yeah, if you're going to reach
out to him, just be like very gentle to get slow,
but there is an update fifteen days later update dude

(06:31):
to popular demand. The day after my original post, I
told my spouse and my parents both are supportive of
how I wanted to go about this. I went ahead
and decided to contact my son's mother. I didn't want
to give her the excuse that I was anything but proactive.
When I went to send a message directly on ancestry,
I could no longer find the match. She had blocked

(06:53):
me because it was under her name. Okay, she submitted
her son's a DNA, but under her name. I wonder
if she just wanted to find out who the father
was but didn't actually want him in her life or something.
She was like, okay, once we figured.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Out blocked another thought she found out who the real
father was, kind of got excited, yeah, but then started
reading Reddit stories where people like, oh, he's gonna claim
for custody, always going to steal my child away from me.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh my child's gonna d D D D D, And
was like, was Opie even talking to his son at all?
Or was it just the mom.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
He hasn't talked to anyone yet.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
He just saw it.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
He's still on like the ancestry dot Com.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, I didn't know if they messaged yet.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
No, No, they have a message yet.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
My sister, who's also using Ancestry but hasn't open the
app and ages could still see the relation from hers.
I decided to have my sister contact her, thinking it
may be easier anyway coming from a woman and someone
slightly less emotionally involved. Sister was blocked immediately with no response.
We both tried reaching out on Facebook, blocked and blocked.

(07:56):
My mom tried reaching out blocked. So I wrote a
brief messa to my son and sent it to his
Instagram without going into specifics, simply telling him that I
think we share a connection, that I knew his mother
when we were in college in two thousand and six,
and leaving the door open from there, basically telling him
I was likely his father without blatantly saying it. Let

(08:17):
him put the pieces together in a way that made
sense for him. Within a few hours, I received a
message back. He knew exactly what I meant. He said
that his mom told him his biological father was her
high school sweetheart and was unlive by a wasted driver
while she was pregnant. He didn't know his mom had
gone to college. How did he not know that his

(08:37):
mom had gone to college.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I don't know. It probably makes the story easier.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
That's like a crazy thing to hide, though. He told
me he had started questioning the story because she didn't
know any of his relatives and only had one pick
of his dad and had no picks of her with
this guy. He described this as a big question mark
in his life and that he had been wanting answers
for a while. He did provide the DNA for the
ancestry test. His mom told him it was to help

(09:02):
her locate the fictional father's family so they could come
to his graduation party. Still, he said that he wanted
to be one hundred percent sure that I was who
I said it was. So on the sixth I drove
down five hours to meet him at a Starbucks. I
brought a paternity test. We did the samples and put
it in the mail. The results came back yesterday as

(09:24):
a match. I knew from the moment I saw him
that he's my kid. A parent knows. In the photos
I saw of him, he looked like me as a teenager,
But when I saw him in person, I could see
the resemblance to my dad as a young man. His
voice even sounded like mine. It was tough holding myself together.
It was the same flood of emotion I had when
I saw my kids for the first time when they

(09:45):
were born, a unique cocktail of emotions most parents know.
Except now it's happening in a Starbucks and the kid
is a teenager who's six to one same night as
me too. As for his mother's husband, my son told
me he's never out of close relationship with him, especially
after his twin brothers were born at their seven. His
mom is good to him and clearly did well raising him.

(10:06):
He said he's always looked to his grandpa as his
father figure, as he lived with his mom and her
parents for the first several years of his life. He
doesn't know what he wants to do with his life yet,
but he's an honor student on the swim team and
is hoping to get a scholarship for swimming. He has
a girlfriend and is going to prom this spring. I'm
so incredibly proud of how maturely he's handled all this.

(10:29):
We're keeping in contact on Instagram and agreed to meet
this summer so he can meet the rest of the family,
particularly my parents. He's especially excited to meet my two
year old daughter. He says he's always wanted a little sister.
I also encouraged him to go easy on his mom
when the time comes to tell her, because we were
both so young when all of this happened, and I'm

(10:50):
sure she did the best she could do at the time.
As misguided as it may have been. Sometimes it old
still lies to make things easier for kids to accept,
and we can suddenly find ourselves caught up in those lines.
I don't it doesn't mean she wanted to lie to them,
But we do want you to listen to full episodes
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(11:12):
is a little bit left to the story.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Ah, this is great, This is so sweet.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I mean, you have this like very lovely kind of
you know, reunion with your child. Yeah, where neither of
you are defensive or you.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Know, he's a good kid.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
He's a great kid. He's gonna get a scholarship for swimming. Yeah,
and even you being like, don't get mad at your mom,
even though you have every right to be mad at her.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, I would in this scenario. I don't know if
I would bring it up to my bio mom and
meet my biological father, figure out the pieces, and then
work on talking to them. Yeah, because well another point,
you don't have a lot to lose here, because you
have a scholarship, going to swimming, your art.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
You're gonna be going out of the house soon.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah, so maybe wait till you're out of the house
and then bring it up whenever you've left. I am
looking for the less conflict resolution here, but the kids
in a good spot.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah. I'm also I'm hopeful that the mom wouldn't pull anything.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
She kind of has.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean, she has been she's been blocking, she's been lying.
I'm hoping that maybe now that it's out in the open,
she'll be like, oh well I tried. Like that sucks,
but it is kind of lovely. How quickly it seems like, oh,
Pee and his.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Son connected connected? Yeah, yeah, this is great.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, but there is a little bit left to the story,
so on all a mixed ending. Would I have liked
for his mom to have complied, Yeah, it would have
made things a heck of a lot easier, But I
won't hold a grudge against his mom because my number
one priority is my son's well being and he doesn't
need cass. I hope when she's finally told that she
can come to terms with it, because they both deserve

(12:46):
peace and he shouldn't have an unspoken rift between his parents.
I think she will. She doesn't have much of a
choice at this point. I hope now she understands that,
now that he's grown, I'm not trying to take him
away from her. In some ways, it's a blessing I
didn't find out until now, because had I found out sooner,
lawyers and judges would have been involved, and I don't

(13:08):
think that would have been good for him, at least
that's what I tell myself when I got upset. And
I'm glad both of us have gotten some closure here,
particularly him, as he's been dealing with this a lot
longer than I have. I mean, yeah, he's known about you,
maybe not like specifically you, but that he has this
missing parental figure his whole life. You've just been this

(13:29):
kind of giant question mark in his life. And now
you're finally there in person, and that must be so
you know, exciting and also overwhelming. Yeah, I don't know
what's gonna happen when he brings it up to his mom. Hopefully.
I'm really cross my fingers that she doesn't, you know,
blow up on this. But yeah, I think right now
this is a.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Good start, good start for everyone, and I love it. Yeah,
best ones so far.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
But guys, we have more DNA stories coming this week
where you're gonna be guessing who's my daddy?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
So true aps, so tune in tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
My boyfriend expects me to invest in his daughter, but
it's against my goal.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
That's a bad investment.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
And investment my female thirty seven boyfriend male forty two
has been asking weird questions and expecting me to do
things that would go against my plans for my own family.
By the way, this comes from Stunning TAngelo eighty seven
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just go to the ur slash Okay Storytime separredd It.
So things have been working out for me in the
past few years, but this year has been amazing. I

(14:30):
decided to cut down on my daily workload a bit
after I got three accounts that are helping me reach
some financial goals. I'm planning on buying a house for
my family. I downsize my current living situation renting after
my kids went to live temporarily with my parents for
this semester while I completed my certified training and graduated
from my present program in UNI. My new place isn't
as nice looking as other places, but the price was

(14:50):
a good cut from living expenses for me. I can
both walk to the office and UNI, and I hardly
have to move my car for anything. I'm saving money
that I'm putting in an account for my kids. Then
absolutely hates my place. It's clean and in a relatively
safe area. It's just that it's a mix of student
area slash old families, and traffic can get messy from
seven am to six pm.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
A big, big yes, that's all day.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
And some houses are simple and elegant and some look
like tacky. Add on, I don't care if my place
doesn't look nice on the outside. It's not like it's
an esore, and it's up to me to make it
liveabole on the inside. I had two other choices. Choice
A cost two hundred dollars less than my previous place,
with access to a community pool and two bedroom. I
don't need more than one bedroom at the moment, and
I don't really have time to enjoy the pool. Choice

(15:35):
B was a bit lower, but about forty five minutes away.
It was beautiful and close to the school where Ben's
kid went. He did hint at it, but he would
have needed to get on the lease and come up
with the difference between this place and my new studio
apartment that I chose. Also, living together is a major decision,
and right now I really need to focus on my
career and education. He said, he understood, but he didn't
take it well. He told me that his daughter was

(15:56):
disappointed because she would have liked a nice place to
hang out. Ben in an apartment. It's an average place
with no problems or issues. So what he said came
out as a weird remark, Yeah, doesn't. I'm confused. She
has a place to hang out. Why does she need
your place? Yeah, to be like perfect, oh, you know,
oasis or whatever.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think I think he's trying to like convince her
to get like a new place, a new nicer place.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
To get there. Yeah, but it's like she's.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Not responsible for your kid like that. Like no, Now,
fast forward and he started asking questions. First, he asked
if I would be interested in partnering with him for
a business idea. I said no because I had already
made a commitment to self fund my own venture. Second,
I'm not familiar with the industry that he wanted to
break into. Then he began noticing things about things that
I own. I'm not hiding that I'm financially stable, but

(16:44):
I don't defend a lot. You did notice that I've
bought a few nice items and started telling jokes that
felt harmless. Then he said that I was loaded and
that his daughter would be an awesome protege. I stayed quiet,
to be honest, because I think he might have been offended.
But there's no way in heck that I allow entrance
to what I've built to anyone other than my kids.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Because where is this going?

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
What?

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Also, he said that I should treat his daughter as
very special because I only had boys, and she's my
chance to have a girl in the family.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
His word.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Don't get me wrong, she's a good kid. I have
never missed out on gifting her a nice and thoughtful
presence on her birthdays and the holidays. But his words
created a sense of discomfort and disgust for me, it
felt like reversed sexism, and I told him she and
I have a decent relationship, but there's no way that
I will give her access to my money if that
means treating her as my own. I know this sounds

(17:34):
very wrong, but that's how I feel. She's not the
kind of kid who's a bully or nasty or anything,
but she's not my child. And every time that he
asks for things, I feel like he's trying to get
me to take from my kids to give to her. Well,
I don't know it even is like reverse sexism. I
think it's just yeah, like he wants her to take
responsibility for his kid, like period. Yeah, it sounds like
he wants some things for his kid, I guess. And

(17:58):
he's looking at Ope and all her fun things that
she has, yeah, and her her money and everything, and
is like, well, now that I'm dating her, maybe she
might as well help my kid out too, right, right,
Like That's not how it worked. No, it happened again
when I gave her a short term weekend job. The
office cleaning lady wasn't available, so I hired his daughter

(18:18):
for a Saturday cleaning. She did a good job. I
paid her and took her to the mall to get
her some makeup that she wanted, and she came back
next weekend. When he picked her up, he started joking
that she would start from the bottom and rise to
be a top executive like any other kid their family business.
I didn't say anything because she was there, but I
did approach him later on and mentioned it to him.
I tried to be gentle, but it was important for
us to at least discuss expectation. His initial reaction was

(18:41):
it what I expected to be fair. I think he
got nervous or embarrassed. But I didn't like his reaction,
so he said something about me potentially putting her in
my will.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Dude, Wow, y'all are dating, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Not even married, not even married, not even at the
point where you were moving in.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
No, we like that's that is way too quick.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Yeah, way too fast. I'd like to clarify that he laughed,
so I think it was a joke, but I also
think that he wouldn't have clarified if I had gone along.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
I feel like he was like, ha, you should put
earn your will.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yeah, yeah, exact exactly that. I simply stayed quiet and
told him that I cared about his daughter, but it
isn't fair to create any expectation. I've worked so hard
to give my kids a better future and it's taking
me over ten years, and the fact that he only
sees the results without taking my pass and my ordeal
into consideration feels disrespectful. I also mentioned how he wanted
me to change my budget and plans for a different

(19:34):
property while he knew that moving together isn't an option,
and that he stayed silent when I mentioned that he
would have needed to pay the difference on the leak. Also,
I mentioned that I would not make a necessary sacrifice.
Nothing else was said. He stormed out of my car
this is why I feel like the a hole here
and started walking with his hand in his pocket. In
a weak smart I had to I had, Yeah, how

(19:57):
would you feel like the ale of he's doing that?

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I had to drive slowly next to him to convince
him to get back inside the car because I hate
doctor David bannersins. He looked like a hurt puppy after
I dropped him off. He is in sending me texts
about being disconnected from what a blended family actually is,
showing that I think his daughter is inferior, being a
hypocrite and bully.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
You guys aren't a blended family yet, You're not. You
are two separate families. Yeah, and you two are dating. Yeah,
you're not a blended family yet, right.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Even if like you've been dating for a long time,
It's like, at the end of the day, she's going
to prioritize her own kid at this point in your relationship,
Like this has disturbed my inner piece because I'm just
defending one of her legacy I've built, and having to
do it against my partner just doesn't feel right. We
talked about it, and he apologized and I did the
same in case I was too hard. He said we

(20:49):
could find some middle ground, and I was open to it.
When he talked about helping him create a business for
his daughter, I began to get angry because again, it
would be sweat equity for me. I declined, because I
did all this wedding. I had to, but it was
for me, and what he's asking just isn't fair. It's
a responsibility, and I truly like to do things appropriately.
I don't want to say yes and do it with
half effort, and I don't want to work for free.

(21:11):
I also don't want to mix anything between business and
pleasure because it's my network and my contacts, and again,
it could go very nice and well, or it could
be a crap show, and I don't want that. I'm
also concerned that he will ramp up and keep asking
and asking for things. He said that if I don't help,
he will feel like we will never build anything together.
But what is he doing in this situation nothing, He's.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Just asking her for things. Yeah, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
This has nothing to do with building anything. She's the
only one that's going to be.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Building something, and you're asking her to do everything. Yeah,
for your daughter and for your lifestyle. It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
I said he needed to hire a consultant, but he
stayed quiet. So I told him that he shouldn't place
the responsibility of his present situation on me. He said
that I'm probably blinded by my success, but that one
day I'll wake up single and lonely messed up.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
I asked if he was threatened to leave me, and
he said, I'm not acting like.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
A helpful partner.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I asked for a break, and he freaked out. I'm
just trying to keep my mental health in check because
his constant asking and jokes have made me anxious. Also,
I'm very angry and thinking that he just wants a
hand out. I texted in this morning asking him to talk.
I want to break up, he said. He hopes I'm
not planning on dumping him because it would mean that
I just tricked him into a break what He posted

(22:25):
something about his own mental health today. So am I
the a hole for deciding to end thing? We haven't
talked yet, but that's my intention. I don't see his
kid as inferior at all. I just want to keep
my money out of it. And there is an edit
to the judgmental people calling me names for letting my
kids live with my parents for this semester. Only please enlighten.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Would it be a.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Great option to reject a good opportunity and finish my
education to gain your approval?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Right?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Because not doing my best to give them a good
financial start in life is a better option. Also, where
did you get that I'm an absent mother? Did I
say that I don't see them or spend time with them?
There is an update. I wasn't even focusing on that
at all. People are crazy on the internet are come on,
ye crazy but wow, So do we think that opis

(23:08):
a hole for debating on breaking up?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
No? I mean your your partner is is inserting himself
in places that he's not shouldn't be inserting himself, and
then he is just kind of totally putting all of
this blame on you for the way that his life
is working at right now. Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
I feel like money is obviously like a big thing
in relationships, and like if you want these limits for
like and boundaries for your finances, then like it's good
to be honest about that upfront, yeah, because then things
like this could happen. Not saying that like she should
have been honest about this earlier, but like this is
just a good opportunity to like revisit if you want
to be in this relationship if they have these expectations

(23:48):
of you.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
So no, not the whole adult, but we do have
an update. So we formally broke up today, okay, And
he made it very difficult to focus on our conversation.
Not surprised he interrupted me every five seconds and was
in denial for almost half of it. I asked to
me at a small restaurant public place strategy to avoid

(24:09):
any type of drama. I tried to be respectable, but
definitely wanted to bring up my uneasiness and feelings about
his behavior. He tried to brush it off at first,
but when I insisted, he evaded the subject.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
I told him what.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
He already knows. My children are my priority as a
sole provider, and I want to ensure that they have
their needs covered. There were some comments on my other
posts that I had thought about but hadn't verbilize, like
what would he inherit my kids? Or what's his plan
for his own kid? I know he doesn't have much,
but that's no excuse. When I established the comparison between
what he wanted for his kid versus what he would
give to mine, his face changed like I was greedy

(24:44):
and he was insulted. He said, my kids don't have
a dad and that he can provide a paternal figure.
He's like, you have to provide the funds and the
inheritance and all of this, and then I'm just gonna
be like their dad just gonna be a man, Just
gonna be a man would be there, Yeah, just going
to exist.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
You're welcome.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
This triggered me so much that I had to try
and keep my volume in check. Yixer still in public.
My thought is that being there like a piece of
furniture in exchange for financial benefits for his own kid
is acceptable to him. I would have loved for my
kids to have a decent dad, but that's just not
in the car, and right now I'm better off alone
than with Ben. I was so angry that he kept

(25:22):
asking me to calm down. He said that he's leaving
his daughter good knowledge on life in general because there
are things that only he can offer since his mom
is too secular whatever that means, and I didn't ask him.
I said that we needed to break up, and he
immediately got upset and left our table. I thought he
was gone, but he came back later and claimed that
he only went to use the restroom. I told him

(25:42):
that I can't share any part of my life with
him after he behaved like a gold digger, and that
even if I was able to get past this, I
would never even consider getting back together because his intentions
are entitled and dishonest.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yoh.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
All in all, I'm just glad that we weren't alone.
He has high blood pressure issues real I've seen the medication,
and sometimes I've suspected some types of mental health issues,
going from zero to one hundred for things that seem incongruent.
He said he was truly sorry if he offended me
and said that he felt tricked and betrayed.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Crazy that he's apologized and then also uh blamed her. Yeah, Like,
so sorry if you got hurt by like what I
said to.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
You when you betrayed me.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Come on that breaks are meant for introspection and to
seek improvement and not to abandon a relationship. Well, what
if you seek introspection and then you decide that you
shouldn't be together? Yeah, so abandoning a relation. What if
you seek introspection and you realize that, uh, your relationship sucks?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
What then?

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Huh that my actions will have an impact on his
daughter because she really likes well. I offered to have
a last context with her if he agreed, but his
answer was no, if you you don't get to say
anything to her, Like okay, well.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
You'reyone who's studying.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah, if you're really thinking about her feelings and that
would really hurt if she actually stopped talking her, then
you're the one, Like yeah, you're the one stopping her
from doing that. He said that I'm caught up in
my new mainstream life, whatever that means. It's effing offensive
considering that I've worked for my financial stability after a
few years of things not being great. He told me
to go suck on my colleagues pe peace, but immediately apologize.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I can't take that back.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
You can't say you were ghost.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh shoot, sorry, yeah, well didn't say that.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Sorry, Sorry, didn't you say that. I told him I'm
not surprised at his behavior, since it shows me that
he seems to think spicy sleep can solve anything. Oooo.
I also said that since he was being gross and vulgar,
I am learning just now that men like him are uneffable,
hope of spicy related hand out seekers and insincere, and
that I will never date someone who is not financially

(27:49):
stable ever again, because this is a huge lesson. I
wish that I could say that I had left him
sitting alone at the table, but he left birth when
I was about to get my handbag to pay for
my food. He rushed to get his backpack and walked off. Really,
I'm just imagining that of him being like storming off
and me like, yeah, you you pay for the check,
you stay here, and then he's like, ah, my bag,

(28:11):
we got my backpack and then he like rushes in,
like excuse me, sorry.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
I forgot my bag. Bye.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah, I blocked him everywhere, but I already changed my lot.
He never had a key, nor did he stay over it.
But I'm just being cautious.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
But you know what, we will.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Never block you anywhere because we want you to check
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Speaker 3 (28:39):
We'll be there. But there is a little bit more
to this story.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
But what do you what are your final thought?

Speaker 3 (28:44):
You dodged a bullet, man, for sure, And by dodged
the bullet, I mean you kind of got hit by
the bullet. But now you're dodging the Yeah. Yeah, the
bullet is passing.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Through right now.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
This is definitely something that is like good, good lesson
to learn about a relationship, good lesson to learn for
what you want in the future. M hm, love it,
love it. I mean, well it sucks, but like love
your future.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
And you know what, you want. You know who you are.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
You're not gonna let anyone walk over you. And that's great, exactly.
But there is a little bit more. He called one
of our friends in common to vent about me, and
she ended up angry with him because he was very
insistent that I had mistreated him, and she told him
that she needed to hear my side of the story.
She and I had a long conversation, and she told
me that she can't blame me because our group of
friends had been noticing the imbalance in our relationship and

(29:29):
how he seemed comfortable including himself in conversations about business
and success when in the sixteen years that she's known him,
he's never gotten anything done. Wow, he's just start a podcast. Yeah,
he just started a podcast and talk about all of
his success, influence all of these people, influence all those people,
and then maybe he can get he can get another
girlfriend who will take care of his daughter exactly. So

(29:50):
that's my update. I also blogged him on social media
and messaging apps and that is it. Wow, So thought
we got the friend support on that one. Yeah, yeah,
someone he's someone's supporting you. Yeah it's not him, but.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
You know I else.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, but that's the end of that story.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
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Speaker 3 (30:11):
My girlfriend demands that I stop seeing my daughter, so
I told her to leave.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Absolutely. My partner twenty two female and I twenty four male,
have been together for just under a year now, and
a few days ago she asked if we could talk.
I immediately feared that she wanted to break up. However,
after our conversation, it was not what I expected at all.
By the way, this comes from Embarrassed leg twenty eight
to seventy five, and if you want to submit your
own stories, go to our slash Okay story time separated.

(30:39):
So a bit of background for this is that I
have two daughters, aged four and two. I became a
single dad when I was twenty Just a few months
after my first daughter was born, her mother left us,
and I've been raising her on my own ever since.
About a year or so later, I met my now
ex partner. She was very pregnant and, like me, was
facing the reality of being a single mom. Soon her
baby daddy had left her and their daughter, leaving her

(31:00):
with no support. We were together for almost two years
and we're a blended family. During that time, I raised
our youngest daughter as my own, loving and caring for
As such, both of my daughters are Deaddy's girls, and
I cherish our relationship. I've never won second guess my
role as their father. Unfortunately, my ex partner struggled with
mental health issues, including PPD and bipolar disorder, which eventually

(31:22):
led to infidelity. Despite our attempts at couples counseling, I
realized I couldn't continue the relationship. We split amicably, but
I made a promise to my youngest daughter that I
would always be there for her, and I fully intend
to keep that promise. She spends weekends with me and
occasionally stays a few days during the week, and this
has been a constant for over a year. What a
great guy like to not only be an active parent

(31:46):
for his biological daughter, but also to be an active
parent for a child he's not related to. Yeah, still
sees as his daughter Like wow, I know, go girl, dad.
Now fast forward to the present. I met my current
partner shortly after my breakup. Around a month later. Ooh,
what happened? Perhaps not the best way to go about that. Honestly,

(32:07):
it was supposed to be a casual thing, but we
hit it off so well that we ended up spending
the whole night talking, playing games, and getting to know
each other. We didn't go beyond kissing, but it felt
great from the start. I was open about my situation
of being a single father to two girls and a
unique relationship with my youngest daughter at the time. She
seemed fine with it and didn't bring it up again.
During our recent talk, she expressed that she's uncomfortable with

(32:30):
the fact that I'm still involved in my daughter's life
and my ex's life. She said that it's emotionally ignorant
and unfair to her that I continue this relationship, and
in her words, you can't possibly love her as much
as your actual daughter. She's not even yours. Just just terrible, terrible, terrible,
terrible terrible. This really hit me hard, and I admit
I didn't handle it well. It turned into shouts on

(32:52):
both ends, and I told her to leave my house.
The crappy part was both my kids were in their
rooms and heard the whole thing. Oh wow, Oh yeah,
you gotta be careful about that. Yeah, I really hope
they hardly heard anything or nothing at all. It was
probably the first time they ever saw me like that. Said,
she went to stay with her sister, and now everyone
is messaging me from her friends and family, backing my

(33:13):
partner's opinion that she isn't even mine and questioning why
I care so much about her. Oh, tone deaf, like,
I just respond like, no, she is mine, she is mine,
and don't question my relationship with my daughter.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
It's like the kind of thing where it's like, first
of all, what does it matter?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, like it's none of your business.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Thankfully my family is on my side and is doing
their best to support me emotionally, but it's hard as
they live in another state. My mother and stepdad are
planning on flying in this coming weekend to help out,
which is the best news I've heard all day. Honestly,
I'm really confused right now. Am I being unreasonable or unfair?
I am struggling to process my emotions and don't know
what to do next. Note I should also add that

(33:53):
my ex and I remain decent friends and she's a
great mother to our youngest daughter. However, my oldest daughter's
mother is currently mia and has been for some time
and is not in the picture. My youngest daughter's mother
is a great mom, but works as a flight attendant
for a few years now, so that's the only reason.
My daughter stays with me a couple of days of
week on some occasions so she can pick up extra
hours when she wants or needs. Is only occurs three

(34:14):
to four times a month. If that. Mentally, she is
much better and is doing her best. We just didn't
work out, but continue to make sure that her daughter
will always have me as her daddy. Oh the sweet
Why would you get into a relationship with someone who
has two kids and then expect them to get rid
of the kids? Yeah, like, just get in a relationship
with someone who doesn't have kids.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah, Like it just sounds like her only like motive
for this and for these feelings. There's just like, oh,
that's really weird that, like you care so much about
your ex's biological child, Like what are you still talking
to her or something like that's what it sounds like.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Weird. Also, my girlfriend now doesn't live with me. She does, however,
stay a few nights out of the week and we
do go out when I find the time. I haven't
heard from her since the incident, which maybe is for
the best. When I I wrote this, I was definitely
trying to word my best during this and when upset
words don't really form in the best way. I do
not ever plan on leaving my daughter's life. What I
was more looking for in answers was if I was

(35:11):
wrong for punting her out. Should we have talked more
about it? I mean, to be fair, you seem like,
rightfully so pretty defensive about your daughters and their place
in your life, right and your girlfriend was just like,
just get them out. Yeah, I think I don't want
them mirror and so she was being pretty insensitive. I agree.
I also don't think I hopped into a relationship too
fast after my first daughter. It was over a year

(35:33):
later and maybe more when I met my ex than
a month later after that my new girlfriend, which is
really fast and was probably the quickest I've ever jumped
into a relationship, but I really thought we had a
great connection. My first daughter's mom was my high school sweetheart,
and we were together for years and even were each
other's first but after our daughter was born, she completely
changed and just decided she had to leave. Comments. Yeah,

(35:56):
do you have any thought before we jump into the
comment no, you go right ahead, comment one not the A.
Might I suggest gently that you pursue therapy and stay
away from relationships for a bit. You're quite young and
it's been a series of train wrecks. Focus on yourself
and your daughter's for a bit. Comment to your girlfriend
is an ale take some time and focus on yourself.
Also a piece of advice. Though emotionally she might be

(36:17):
yours and that's great, However legally she isn't. If you
mean that you want this little girl in your life forever,
it might be worth talking to your AX about adoption.
Your AXE could change your mind and remove your daughter
from your life at any time, and there is an update.
I think that's pretty smart.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, but I feel like that's not what he wants though, right, Like,
what do you mean like, because that's suggesting like giving
up that daughter for adoption. But I don't think that's
what open.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
You want to know. I think that commentary was saying
that he could legally adopt her, So not saying that
the mom would lose her paract rights, just saying they
both would have legal rights to this daughter. I see, Yeah,
so he would actually legally be a father to his
thought that would be great. Yeah, I feel like you
could talk to her about it. Yeah, and like you know,
probably could work out some like making sure that she

(37:02):
would probably still want the same amount of custody that
she has, right, yeah, right, there's a way. Update. Thank
you all for the incredible support of after my posts.
My girls and I are truly grateful. A special thanks
to all the parents who stepped up for a child
when it wasn't expected. Children often face the harsh realities
of broken homes and crime, and they need our protection.
They are innocent and didn't choose to be born into

(37:23):
this world, so they need us more than we realize.
As parents, we may feel we're not doing enough or
wish we could change things, but the past is behind
us and all we can do is strive to be better.
I have legal rights to both of my children. Okay,
so hope he already has that. Oh wow. For my oldest,
the courts granted me full custody after her mother abandoned her,
and I don't receive child support nor want any from her.
For my youngest, I have joint guardianship, which is different

(37:45):
from adoption or full guardianship, and visitation. Her mother suggested
that since she sees me as her daughter's only father,
while adoption isn't possible right now due to her age
and our unmarried status, we're safe on that front. The
courts typically require a stronger bond but for approving adoption,
even if we feel it differently. During my breakup with
my youngest daughter's mother, she deeply regretted her mistake and

(38:07):
tried to make amends and wanted to continue our relationship. However,
I couldn't move past it, though I still love and
care for her as the mother of my child and
a good friend. She has since moved on but still
views me as her child's only father. Despite her mistakes.
I know she's worked hard to better herself, and I
forgave her a long time ago. To be fair, this
relationship was the quickest I've ever been in and it

(38:27):
was only my third one in my entire life. My
first relationship lasted years, starting when we were both fourteen,
and my second came over a year later. After going
through tough therapy to cope with the challenges of being
a single father at such a young age. Moving forward,
I plan to focus on therapy, spend time at home
with my kids and work on my small cafe business

(38:47):
here in the valley. But there is an.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Update, Oh boy, another one.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
So is this a California person?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Perhaps that the value that you're referencing, any thought, I
feel like I think that's answering a lot of questions
we had about adoption and everything. Really, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
We understand that it literally has like some legal rights
to this child or to taking care of this child,
right right. So even more so, it's like all the
people who are saying, you know, oh, why do you
want to take care of this it's not even your child.
It's like legally like she is.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Yeah, exactly, that's just so weird. You just gotta get
away from these people minds your business, exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Honestly, all of this really blindsided me. Looking back, she
seemed perfect. It was always doing little things for me,
randomly getting me gifts and even cooking for me when
she stayed over. She'd initiate intimacy every time, and I
get these constant steeny photos from her. So it honestly
seemed like she was really happy and content with everything.
I thought I lucked out and found someone who truly
understood me and made me feel valued. But in hindsight,

(39:47):
it's clear that people are better at hiding things than
we often realized. She clearly wasn't okay with any of it,
and I had no idea. It's crazy how someone could
put on such a perfect front and completely seem like
a different person the next day. Anyways, after my post
gained some traction that same night, I sent a brief
text to her saying that I'm sorry for the way
she feels and that we aren't right for each other,

(40:08):
and that my daughter will always be my daughter no
matter what. My love for my girls will always be
greater than Later last night, I was just hanging out
with my girls watching Moana too in my room. We
all passed down bed thinking it would be a peaceful night,
But at two am, I was woken by a loud
banging on my door, which said to wave a panic
through me. I immediately woke up, grabbed my piece and went

(40:30):
to see what was going on. It was my now
ex girlfriend, stumbling, wasted and emotional, completely out of control.
She was pounding on the door, yelling and crying, and
honestly it terrified me and probably my kids as well.
When I opened the door, there. She was standing there,
begging to talk and wanting me to hear her out
some more. To make matters worse, my oldest came to
the door, since she too wanted to know what was happening. No,

(40:53):
I quickly told her to watch over her little sister,
making sure she was okay. Well, I dealt with the situation.
My oldest went into big sister mode, which made me
proud in that moment. Realizing that things were probably getting
out of hand and that I couldn't get her to
calm down, I knew I had to do something. I
called the police and explain that my wasted ex was
at my door refusing to leave. Within less than ten minutes,
a police car pulled up and they quickly took her

(41:15):
into The situation was over, just like that, and I
haven't heard from her since. The officer suggested I file
a restraining order, which I already planned to do. After
everything that happened, Wow, I mean like wow, crazy that
it escalated, yes, you know, extent.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah, and just even more reason not to be with
this person.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Truly, truly. Then, just a few hours ago, I got
a call from an unknown number. It was a friend
of hers, asking if I had seen her, and it
felt so good to tell her that her friend was
probably in jail and that she wasn't my responsibility anymore,
since she wasn't even my blood. That suggestion came from
a comment on my last post, and it honestly felt
so empowering to finally set that boundary. Yeah, it's like, oh,

(41:54):
we're not legally married or related or anything, so I
don't have any responsibility to her.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, you can figure it out on your own.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah, that's your thoughts of my daughter, so clearly I
don't have any responsibity to your daughter exactly, or sister.
Now things are starting to calm down and I can
focus on taking care of my kids and myself. I
have blocked everyone associated with her and plan on just
living for now and doing what I can to be
the best dad. I mean, I think you're doing a
great job so far. Totally. Maybe one day I will

(42:22):
show my girls this post in times if they ever
feel alone in this world, to let them know that
Daddy will always have their back. He's such a good
dad for such a young man. To my wonderful children.
I am proud of you and will always be no
matter who comes into our lives. I will always choose
to be your father first and never last. I cannot
wait to see what amazing things you do in this
world and what amazing things you will do for others.

(42:43):
And when my time eventually comes, know this you will
both always be my greatest achievement. I love you so much. Ah,
that's so sweet. Yeah, that's the end of that story. Wow,
what a sweet thing. That's so sweet. A sh love
that Go would be a great dad. Oh, pe Go
continued to I know I have no suggestion or advice,

(43:07):
you've no notes. Handle that perfectly. Yeah, absolutely, and good
riddance truly, But that has time for us to rid
you of this episode. Yes, at the end of it.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I'm considering having a baby with my friend. But it's complicated.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
That sounds complicated.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
I know this sounds crazy, but please read the whole post.
I am a widow. I lost my husband a little
over three years ago. It's a really long story for
another post, but we had been trying to have a
baby together before he passed. That is sad. By the way,
this comes from small shops and if you want to
submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay
Storytime sub reddit. So my best friend, who I'll call Chris,

(43:48):
was my husband's best friend. We were good friends when
my husband was still there, but we bonded a lot
after his passing. Chris is also witt although his wife
passed away before I knew him. Having been through what
I was going through and also losing his best friend,
we really leaned on each other the last few years
for love and support. We are best friends now and
I don't know what I would do without them. I

(44:09):
feel like a huge part of my life is empty.
I feel a visceral need to have a baby. I
know I sound crazy. When I lost my husband, it
also felt like I lost the life we didn't get
to have together, Like I lost a baby we're trying
for and the family we could have been. Oh. I
want nothing more in life than to be a mother.
It's always something I wanted for myself, something I've always
looked forward to. I know there's a big child free

(44:31):
lifestyle community here and read it, so this may be
difficult to relate for some, but it's what I want
for myself. I'm educated and very successful in my career.
I'm financially stable. I'm ready for the next chapter. In
my life. I know I could just go to the
baby juice bank or adopt and a raise of baby myself,
but I would really prefer my child to have a
father the old fashioned way. I grew up with the

(44:53):
most amazing dad, and I don't want to purposely bring
a child into the world without a father that will
love him like my dad loved me. I know I
could wain around until I meet the right guy, but
that isn't something I'm certain is in the cards for me.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Maybe the right guy was right in front of you,
best friend all along.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
Yeah, maybe the right guy was your husband's right hand guy.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Sure.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
Well, last week Chris and I got together, had a
few drinks. I see he was in the chat, put
some ices, and I opened up to him about how
badly I wanted to be a parent.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
She's like, I want to be a parent so.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
Bad right now, baby, Christly.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I honestly be a parent with anybody. Yeah, honestly person
across the table from.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
First mail, I see parent.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
He shared the same feelings with me. So Chris, o
man o, man, oh man, it's gonna get hot and bothered.
It was so nice to talk with someone who I
can really relate to and he feels the exact same
way as I do, like he is missing a huge

(45:58):
part of his life. He said, we should have a
baby together, he said, in it half jokingly way at first,
but it grew from there. Nah, we're not again, we're
not talking about the baby. We're talking about something else
that grew from there and now we're seriously considering it.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
No, you both you both were seriously considering it. You
just were like, hah, wouldn't it be great baby together?

Speaker 6 (46:23):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:23):
I mean, like I mean it wouldn't be that crazy.
I mean, like that would be so so crazy, but
like we've been such good friends, like it, like you
know we could we couldn't do it, but like we
should it because it's it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
It's crazy. I mean but people do it all the time. Yeah,
people do all the Like I know Sally that just
did it. I mean they're crazy, but like not that
much crazier than us. Like I mean, like we could
be crazy. We could be crazy. I mean we have
been crazy before. Like I mean, do you want to
be you want to be crazy?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Let's do it.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
I know, Chris would be an amazing dad. I'm trying
to look at it objectively, but obviously it's a very
emotionally charged topic. As I see it, the worst case
scenario is that we share custody of the child, but
a child has two parents who love him or her.
It's no different than a divorced couple with a kid.
We're both well off and we can afford a great
Laura to write a rock solid parenting agreement for us.

(47:10):
The best case scenario is we raise the child together
as a team. We all practically live together, have the
same parenting views and the same morals in general. I
could go on forever. Why we think it's a good idea?
What is your opinion? Am I completely crazy for considering this?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
We have some relevant comments, we got an update, but chats.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
People have children for worse.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
Reasons, so many reasons, But the teald are of this.
Two widowed best friends support each other through loss, considering
having a baby together due to a mutual desire for
parenthood and a longing to share that with a co parent.
I think I think that is this gonna turn romantic?

Speaker 3 (47:46):
I think so.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
I think how could or not? How could or not?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I think it's on that way. I think the fact
that they even are considering they both had the same idea.
They both had the same idea, and they're not even
a little bit into each other.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
As he says, I'm sure he is a rock solid
proposition for her. Oh well, we got some relevant comments,
not bad advice, says Opie to me, It's clear you
were asking for permission to love Chris romantically. The baby
is a pretext you have it. There is nothing your
husband would have wanted more for you to be happy,
and what better way than loving someone who was also

(48:20):
so important to him. Put your guilt aside and start
a true relationship with Chris. Not only will you not
regret it, it will ensure you honor your husband's memory
together forever. Every time that you and Chris embrace in
loving and loving embrace under the sheets together. I want
you to call out your past away husband's name, just

(48:40):
to make sure he feels included his name. Yeah, say
his name together. It can be a fun little thing,
a little bonding thing anyway, Kirie Girl says Opie. Look
at how many people have upvoted this post and agree
with the statement. You and Chris want the same things.
You like each other enough to have some and loved
each other through very difficult things. You've done things that

(49:02):
married couples sometimes don't make it through. That speaks huge
of your relationship. Get together, make beautiful babies and create
a wonderful life together. We love that, We love that,
We love that. That is so cute. That is so cute?
And Drew Mighty says, why not date and try making
a baby together? Are your feelings non romantic? I mean
you want to raise a baby with him? That says
something right there? Why did you feel guilty? And op response?

(49:26):
All right, well, it's not that I haven't considered it,
but it would just feel wrong. We actually kissed once,
but I felt so guilty about it. When did you kiss?
Did you kiss when he was alive?

Speaker 4 (49:35):
No?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
No, no, this is post for sure?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
I hope so post for sure.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
But she feels guilty because of her husband's deceasment.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
Kimberly find says it gets worse. No, oh no, we're
only halfway through. We're only halfway through. Kimberly find says,
it gets worse.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
O me, No, I'm happy?

Speaker 6 (49:52):
Oh no oh no we kissed once? When when did
you kiss once?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Oh? After? After?

Speaker 6 (49:57):
When did you kiss once? Well, it just doesn't feel right.
I felt like I was betraying my husband.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Yeah post post This was after he was just passed update.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
After reading everyone's comments, I was feeling really conflicted, so
I told Chris what.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
What all the comments were saying? Go for it, girl.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
I didn't think we could move forward with having a
baby together until I knew whether or not we'd ever
be together as a couple. Okay, he told me he
was just waiting for me to be ready, and then
we had spicy sleep, So I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
There we go like, literally, whatever you want? Girls?

Speaker 6 (50:33):
So that seed? Chris. Yes, I know. I said that
I felt guilty when we kissed, but I didn't mention
that that was two years ago. I expected to still
feel guilty, but I don't. I just feel really happy.
We both have been off work last couple of days,
so we've been spending one hundred percent of our time together.
It's so nice being with him. Been a long time coming.
Oh yeah, Oh yeah, he's got jokes.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Oh he's got jokes, and she's got that seed inside her,
both both jokes and seed.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
What am I going to do with you? As for
having a baby. Out of speaking of seed, we both
still really want to do that, but now we have
to figure out how that fits into us having a
romantic relationship. The responsible thing would probably be to weights.
I don't know. A few years, it has been really
hard to actively prevent against something that we want to happen,
so we're not really being as careful as we should be.

(51:25):
They're doing it wrong. Any advice, I'm feeling like I
can't think straight about it. I can already tell it's
going to be hard to take it slow. We live together.
We both own our own homes, but he is renting
his out now. I work from home. He only works
a couple of days a week, so we spend a
ton of time together. We were already living like a
couple that just didn't have spicy sleep, and now we are.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
There was so much tension.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
I need a book about this asap well.

Speaker 6 (51:52):
So I'm not sure how to take it slow or
if we should even bother. Also, I don't know how
to tell my parents what's going on, or if I
should tell them at all. They don't like that I'm
friends with Chris or any of my husband's other friends,
and would be even more upset to know that we're together. Now.
They want me to distance myself as much as possible
for my old life, as they call it, and express
their disappointment about my failure to do so every time

(52:14):
I speak to them. By the way, you should never
fail to listen to full episodes with stories just like this.
Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app
and search. Okay, storytime, there's another relevant update. But let's discuss.
What do we think, Sophia. Do you think this is
a good move for them to get together?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
I think so. I think they're all doing the right thing.
I think also that it seems like they've at least
had some sort of feelings for about two years, so
it doesn't feel necessarily like intensely rushed. They've been living together.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
Yeah wait wait, Also, how when did the husband pass away?
When you look at that keon, No, because the kiss
was two years ago, I don't know when. Angela Connolly says,
three years.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Ago, three years ago, three years year after the past.

Speaker 6 (52:59):
Oh, I think that's okay.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
I think it's fine.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
I think that's okay.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Like this and she felt super guilty and didn't do
anything else.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Yeah, that's fine. When my husband has toway, my mom
went behind my back and told my in laws that
I requested they keep their distance from me and it
makes me depressed to talk to them. Not true, by
the way, I felt more depressed not talking to them,
And although I found out the truth much later, we
barely talk now because we weren't there for each other
when we needed to. That's messed up. Wow, relevant comments,
Moonlighter says, First off, congrats. Second, as far as your

(53:27):
mom goes, you might need to do some serious reflection.
Is she the kind of person you want your child's
life at all. We obviously don't know the full story,
but she is not supportive and has done some bad
things in the past. Thirdly, I know you said it's
hard to take it slow, but I still think you should.
Maybe you don't wait a few years. But I don't
know about rushing into this. There really isn't any rush
at all. You're hopefully going to be together for a

(53:47):
long time. You aren't that old, so you're not pushing
the age aspect of pregnancy yet. I just think it
would be a good idea to get some birth control
and revisit the issues in a few months after things
have settled down. Nope, he responds, I can't imagine not
having her in my life, but she has been really,
really crap to me in the past. Our family is
pretty close, though, so if I stopped talking to her,
it would be hard on everyone. And deleted says, are

(54:08):
you sure that there isn't a knee knucklehead reaction to
the onslot of people in the last post telling you
not to have a baby because in the last post
you kept saying he was just a friend, you were
interested in him romantically, and now suddenly, bam, we are
a couple. But this is real romance. Great congratulations, But
I really can't stress enough that you should get into
counseling to talk through this, because you seem to be
allowing yourself to be guided by strong emotions and speak

(54:31):
a lot of being of not being able to go slow,
about being confused, about feeling like you can't think straight.
That's not the mindset of someone who should be making
huge life decisions. Please get into counseling. What do you
think about that?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Fear boring? I want love, adoring, I want to love,
give me baby, Oh give me.

Speaker 6 (54:52):
I think you should explore the thing romantically for sure.
I don't know if you should go straight to.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Baby, I do, but h jump into that relationship.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Man, jow me that relationship. Yeah, I mean like, like
do they do the relationship for a year? See how
you feel?

Speaker 6 (55:06):
And then yeah later and Op responds, Hi, you accidentally
posted four times. It's not a knee knucklehead reaction. People
were asking me why we weren't together, and I didn't
really have an answer for them. I knew that I
didn't want to have a kid with him if I
wasn't completely certain I didn't have feelings for him, because
that would be a recipe before disaster. And when I
told him that, he told me that he's just been
waiting for me to be ready for the last two years.

(55:28):
My initial thought was, why did it take so long
to tell him this? Because we could have been together
a long time ago, and I am seeing a therapist
and that's where that ends.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Whoa, whoa, go get that? Maybe go get that baby.
Maybe it seems like it seems like a cup.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Okay, I think everything's fine, Everything went fine, everything's okay.

Speaker 6 (55:47):
Pretty sick. We got a happy ending.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to
the stories.

Speaker 6 (55:52):
Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors
like keep the show going.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
My best friend complained constantly at my wedding, so I'm
kicking her out if.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
You're complain about my wed and you're not gonna.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
See it at all. So my husband thirty three mail,
we'll call them Nathan and I thirty two male, got
married in November. We decided on a very small and
intimate elopement in Colorado with my son six Mail, Nathan's pastor,
his two best friends. The groom's been a few of
the church friends that took care of the instrumentals, lighting
and video, and my ex best friend ooh cool spoilers

(56:26):
who will call Karen my maid of honor. By the way,
this comes from Little bo Ganja. If you want to
submit your own stories, go to our slash Okay storytimes.
So I wrote it. So I booked a beautiful Airbnb
cabin for our day. It had a stunning master bedroom
and enough guess beds for the bridal party's day free
of charge.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Woo.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
Nathan paid for the entire Airbnb by himself since I
paid for my dress and plane tickets for myself and
my son. Nathan also paid for the food that they
stalked the Airbnb with before we got there. Now, Karen,
Karen and I have been best friends for nearly eighteen years. Karen,
he is a self absorbed person. Karen is also very
much dependent on the green and I'm fairly sure she's

(57:09):
undiagnosed bipolar or something because the way this woman could
go from zero to one hundred, which mode is both
shocking and appalling. Her husband gets the brunt of it,
and I feel so bad for him. We have stayed
friends with her for that long because I'm a recovering
pleable pleaser and I knew I was the only friend
she had left, so I felt bad in stayed in contact,

(57:30):
hanging out only when she asked, which became much less
frequent over the years. Truthfully, I wasn't even going to
invite to her to be part of my wedding, but
at one point her children's birthday parties about two months prior,
she asked me when was the next time I was
going to Colorado, where my husband lives, because we were
doing LDR. We live together now it's LDR long distance relationship.

(57:50):
This is when I spilled the beans about the wedding,
and then she said she was coming with me because
she needed a vacation away. I was not thrilled, but
figured at least i'd have someone to stand on my
side now. But you want that one, you want that person.
You want that person be your maid of honor. Like
that's crazy, that's like a sacred position in.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
The Yeah, you don't got anyone else.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
I should mention when we texted about it afterwards. I
asked her if there was anything in particular you'd like
to do or go see, since it would be her
first time in Colorado. He responded saying she didn't care
that we could do anything I wanted since it was
my wedding weekend, that it should be all about me
and Nathan, and that she'd be fine to just hang
out in the Airbnb and watch my son if we

(58:30):
wanted to go do stuff on her own or something
that she didn't want to do, like go hiking. She
made all these different excuses as to why she couldn't
hike and gave me some serious attitude when I tried
suggesting solutions and ways for her to join us on
the hike to make it more comfortable for her. So
he's trying to include her and she's like, no hiking stinks,
hiking stinks. I don't like it. I don't like it

(58:50):
at all. Literally nothing strendy with it at all. And
I offered her ample clothing for warmth. Again, why are
you trying to include someone who's so obviously yeah, exactly
the worst. I was simply trying to make sure she
felt included, but I was met with are you a
stupid types of responses with major attitude. Remember this for later,
So I think we're gonna get some Yeah, I can't

(59:11):
forget it anyways. A week prior to the chip, Karen
asked me to have Nathan get her little Green Puff
Puff vape for when we get off at the airplane,
because she said, the moment I get in the car,
I need it because my anxiety will be through the roof.
After dealing with the airport, I mentioned it to Nathan
a few times over the week, but his busy schedule
didn't allow him time to go to the dispensary, which

(59:32):
was forty plus minutes out of the way. Karen was
livid that there would be no substances ready for her.
Nathan assured her we would stop on the way to
the airbnb and she could pick up whatever she wanted.
What Karen failed to mention until we pulled up to
the dispensary was that her driver's license was expired. So
she tried to go in, and it was even more
pissed when the women at the desk turned her away.
She got back in the car and screamed at me

(59:53):
that this is why he needed to get the vape
before I got here, as if this was our fault
in our problem, so we're already off, just tell her
start why she's still here. Nathan went into the dispensary
and accidentally got the wrong thing, so I went in
with him second time and tried to get the arrow
cartriage she was talking about. I must have misunderstood or
got my wires crossed when she was screaming like a

(01:00:15):
banshee about not having the vape pen ready for her
when she got off the plane, because I thought she
said she had her arrow battery in her bag, but
apparently it was at home and this dispensary did not
have batteries in stock. She became even more I rates,
so Nathan went back in one final time to get
her a different disposable vape. As we drove to the
grocery store, for sacks. I took a deep breath, hoping

(01:00:35):
since the beast had her substance and it was about
to get a stickers bar, she would finally calm down.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
The reason is because she's yeah, you like, there are
definitely different ways of reacting.

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
We go inside and I'm just browsing, chilling and picking
out my snacks when she starts to become visibly annoyed.
But how long I'm taking We weren't in the store
for more than ten minutes at this point, so I
head to the checkout line and pay while Nathan goes
she's a back room since forty five minute drive to
the airbnb, and can you guess who was pissed off
to wait for him. So now we get to the Airbnb,
the good old boys, the groomsmen, are cooking dinner and

(01:01:09):
waiting to help us get inside. Since it had snowed
at least a foot that day, the steep driveway wasn't
plowed for Nathan's vegan car to drive up. His words,
not mine. The boys grabbed her bags and drove us
up the driveway in one of their trucks. More contexts More,
Both the groomsmen are military friends of Nathan who is
an eight year Army veteran for himself, and Frinday is happy, cheery,
sweetheart who I adore as my son's new uncle. Watching

(01:01:32):
him and my son play warm my heart so much
that it could have burst from joy. Friend b you
were call him. Cal is much more reserved and quiet,
a darker personality. He's been through a lot and struggles
with depression, but he's a good guy at heart, and
we love him no matter what. I made sure Karen
knew and thought she understood that if Kaw doesn't talk
to her or respond or show us interest in things,
not take it personally, and said, please don't get offended.

(01:01:53):
It's not you to him. Think Kle is actually the
one making us dinner that night. Ka also helped shovel
the porch area so we could get inside the cabin,
and it was Cal who drove his truck to help
us get up the hill. Frenday also helped, of course,
but Cow did a lot, so thank yous were in order.
Karen became offended the very first night when Cal didn't
say you're welcome after she said thank you for dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Thank you any dead, and you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
How dare you you should say thank you for how
you're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah. She probably like steezed and someone forgot to say yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
I assured her Cow didn't acknowledge anyone thank you, even mine,
just how he is. I reminded her not to take
offense because it's not personal. She didn't accept this. The
next day was our rehearsal at church, but Karen said
she needed to get a pair of warm boots. This
all she bought was a pair of boat shoes and
her dress shoes. She knew there would be snow, so

(01:02:47):
I don't understand why she didn't pack for the weather
we'd be in, but we made the adjustment. Originally, she said,
I don't care where we go. We could go to
Walmart and I'll just find any pair of boots because
my feet are freezing and my shoes or what. Then
at some point she started asking what place sells uggs.
Nathan didn't know at the top of his head, so
I did my best to search on my phone. As
we started driving, I saw Walmart and told Nathan to

(01:03:09):
pull in, so he parks. We get out of the car,
start walking towards the door, and suddenly Karen no longer
just wants some cheap pair of Walmart boots. No, they
must be ugs. I Karen needs oggs. Yeah, no, free
sponsors dogs. You made sure I knew how stupid I
must be to think she would wear poor people knock
off ugs from Walmart's annoyed and biting my tongue. We
set off for one of the locations that my phone

(01:03:31):
says sells ugs. We get there, they don't have them,
so she's mad. We end up going to the mall
that's much further away because they would one hundred percent
have them, and I just wanted her to stop with
the attitude. But even though she got her ugs, he
still found things to complain about before even leaving them all.
I don't know what's up with this because this person sucks. Yeah, sorry,
that's this behavior sucks. This is behavior that you don't

(01:03:56):
invite to one of your most momentous moments.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
This type of behavior should catch a flight back to
wherever it came from.

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
This behavior should be uninvited from the wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
This behavior is not the type of behavior you want
as in your maid of honor.

Speaker 6 (01:04:13):
Hundred hundred get this behavior out of here, so now
we get to the church rehearsal, and everything seemed fun
until Karen walked up to me and starts complaining about
cal again, telling me she thanked him when he held
out the door open for her, so the least he
could do is effing respond. She went on to say,
it's not my fault he's soft in the head. Well,
don't make him more aft in the head by complaining

(01:04:36):
and being annoying. At this point, I was livid, practically
binding through my tongue, and I knew our friendship was
over after this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
This was that was the moment, not anything else.

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
I told myself to just be nice, get through the weekend,
and never speak to her again after she goes home.
I have dealt with her behavior much like this for
the full eighteen years we've been friends. Caused many fights,
but I had always found a way to forgive her.
Like I said, I am a recovering people pleaser. I've
been working hard to stand up for myself and less
self absorbed person because behaviors out of my life are

(01:05:07):
the roots. And that night a switch just flipped in
me and I no longer cared to make her happy anymore.
I just wanted to enjoy my wedding weekend and be
done with her. The next day was my wedding. We're
getting ready in the church bathroom, and I gave her
a corsage that matched my bouquet. I noticed she still
had her Apple Watch on her other wrist as she
was finished getting ready, so I simply said, as nicely

(01:05:27):
as possible, Oh, don't forget to take that off before
we go out, pointing to her watch. Her response was
instantly nasty, zero two one hundred, saying I'm not taking
this off. I have three kids at home. There's no
way I'm going to be this far from them with
no contact. You might as well have thought I slapped
her across the face and told her to leave her
phone at the Airbnb for the whole day, not just

(01:05:47):
a tech free thirty minute wedding ceremony. She's like, don't
have a phone at the wedding for thirty minutes? How
dare you? What if one of my kids is choking?
What if one of my kids is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
To put my phone on the phone?

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Good? Fine?

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
Fine?

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
What did I have to check out my children?

Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
After angrily texting her husband, she ends up switching the
watch to her other wrists and talking it under the corsage.
I'm sure you mentioned this to her since he was
a good head on his shoulders, Like, why did this
have to be so dramatic. The ceremony goes beautifully and
we all stand around talking for a bit before getting
ready to go to the brewery we reserved for our
dinner and the cake cutting. I told them I needed

(01:06:27):
to pin up the train of my dress before we go,
so I go into the big stall to take off
my dress and pin up the train, since only I
knew how to do it, And meanwhile Kara went into
the other stalls to take off her dress and put
on some jeans and a sweatshirt. I honestly would not
have cared if she wanted to wear that to her
little reception, But when I came out, she saw I
was stole my dress and she flipped out, screaming at me,

(01:06:49):
asking why I was still wearing my wedding dress and
claiming that I told her I was changing into something else.
I told her I never said that, and stated I
told both her and my son separately, but in front
of her as I entered the stall, that I was
just pinning up my train, so it wasn't dragging on
the floor while we go eat dinner. I was very
specific in my wording, especially as I explained it to
my son while she was standing four feet away. Karen

(01:07:11):
storms back into the stall, slams things, putting her maid
of Honor dress back on again. Why is this person here?
I don't understand how you didn't see how this behavior
is just not worthy of your life to make a wish,
to make a wish.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
She's to make a wish kid for final wish? Yeah,
but for friends? Yeah yeah, well your last wish as
my friend of eighteen years and soon to be ex friends.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
It's like whenever you're about to get rid of a friend,
you have to do you have to do like and
make a wish for them.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
Yeah. It's like it's like like your dog's last day
before you put them down. It's like, we're gonna give
you the best food. Yeah, We're gonna go on a
big walk and then boom. Karen storms back into the stall,
slamming things and putting her made of honor dress back on.
It was a dress that she picked and paid for herself.
I just requested the color to be either mov or wine,

(01:08:00):
and it was definitely not an expensive dress by any means,
about fifty dollars, and she complained about feeling insecure that
her chest was out, but she picked it. After she
put it back on, she storm passed everyone to a
room by herself, where she proceeded to call her husband
and complain about how he was treating her. A brief
argument in the bathroom, and she refused to look or
speak to me, So I decided to be dazed and
happily married that a care in the world that she

(01:08:22):
was present. I enjoyed the rest of my night at
the brewery, smiling and being genuinely happy with my true
best friend, my husband. I can only imagine how pissed
she was. Every time people throughout the brewery clinked their
silverware against their glasses for us to kiss. It was beautiful.
I'm glad that you were able to have a nice
wedding time, regardless in the face of that. That's not
easy to do when someone's actively being a poopy head.

(01:08:44):
Karen stayed silent the rest of the night while I
enjoyed spending time with my husband and our son. The
next morning, I made breakfast, but Karen didn't come upstairs
until one pm. She was probably being annoying. We had
agreed to head out as a group and enjoy the
day and talked about getting Kreem barbecue and me trying
to be a good friend. Realize she hadn't eaten all
day and was likely famished. Can't she just find a

(01:09:05):
way to eat herself. The airbnb was far from civilization
and even further from the Korean barbecue place. Okay, that
makes sense. Maybe it was hard to go drive or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:09:14):
Where we were planning to go was an hour forty
five away, so about twenty minutes into our drive, I
saw the pub that was next to the grocery store,
which she said she needed to go to to get
more snacks and stuff. So I told Nathan, hey, pull
in here. We can grab a quick bite for lunch,
hit the grocery store, and then head into town, thinking
we could have Kaream barbecue for dinner. I was thinking
of her trying to get food in her system and

(01:09:35):
the things that she needed from the grocery store, Plus
my son was also hungry, actively asking for food as well.
She gets out of the car and starts going off
about how she's been treated like a child all weekend,
How she has to sit in the back seat like
a child, How she isn't asked where she wants to go,
or what she wants to do or what she wants
to eat. She can't even listen to the kind of
music she likes. We mostly listen to low Fie on

(01:09:57):
the drives because it's calming. We often do this, just
particular this weekend. Plus, who doesn't like lo Fi? I mean,
Loafi is fine. Yeah, it's definitely not hype no, but
it's relaxing. It's like a good music to study too. Yeah,
lo Fi best to study.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Two.

Speaker 6 (01:10:12):
I lost it. I broke and became an unhinged version
of myself that I just shouted everything I felt with
zero filter in front of the pub. Again, not a
good move to do, but understandable with how much she
was putting you through. So I stopped, passed away, stared
at her in disbelief, and said, are you fing kidding me?
I am done.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
I was literally trying to feed you so you wouldn't
become a nasty witch by here we are. What do
you want to sit next to my husband in the
front seat? You want to hold his hand to and
you can't listen to the music you like, you literally
have both effing headphones in your ears listening to your
own e FFing music off your phone.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
Get your butt back in the effing car. We're going
back to the airbnb so you can pack up your crap,
and we're taking you to the fing airport so you
can go home. Because I am die.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
No, you poked the mayorn. You got the class.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
Oh Pe went off. Dang, not a great move.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Justified a hole here, but justified a hole justified.

Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
I mean this Karen was terrible also, but like, oh Pe,
the planning of this all like you gotta yeah, you
gotta know this person is it seems like Sarah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Was saying, as a reminder, Karen did kind of force
herself onto this trip and ope, yeah, the people pleasing the.

Speaker 6 (01:11:29):
Latter was like say no, say no. And also I'm
sure it's quite the show for people all around. While
I yelled all of this at her, she started calling
her husband saying, see this is what I've been dealing with.
You hear how she's talking to me. It took everything
in me not to knock her at the f out.
I was so enraged. She wouldn't respond to me and

(01:11:51):
eventually got back in the car. After we did, she
just sat in the pomos in silence. My husband and
I talked about how crappy and ungrateful she was being
the whole weekend, while my son joined in from the
back seat, saying, yeah, you're going to the airports. I
was half proud he was defending me and half mortified
that he had to endure this ridiculous incident. For the record,
he's perfectly healthy, fine and happy. I never yell like

(01:12:12):
that in front of him. We get back to the
airbnb and she hides in her room until the uber
pulls up two hours later. I'm happy to say we
had the best time after she left. It was like
a breath of fresh air filled the cabin. It was
just our little family enjoying the most beautiful time together.
It may have been more dramatic than I expected my
wedding weekend to be, but I'm glad he's no longer
in my life. So after she left, I went downstairs

(01:12:33):
to check things out and make sure she didn't damage anything.
She thought putting all the clean towels in the shower
and soaking them would upset me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Oh no, the towel, So what that is?

Speaker 6 (01:12:43):
So petty, honey? It was literally right next to the
washing machine. By the way, you can listen to full
episodes of stories just like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcast,
or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, story time,
there's a little bit more of the story, and I'm
just gonna bulldoze right through it. So she also rolled
up her dress and threw it in the bathroom trash
can and left the chain to the necklace I gave
her as a Native honor gift on top of the

(01:13:04):
trash with a pendant missing the show. She clearly blushed
it down the toilet like she really thought I cared
about a thirty five dollars pendant. I'd pay more to
get rid of her all over again. But that's just
me being cynical at this point. So yeah, we closed
on our new home two days after Christmas, and we're
now living our best life, happily ever after, with none
of the drama. Am I the a hole? You know

(01:13:25):
you shouldn't have invited her in the first place. You
were too nice in the beginning. She pushed you to
the edge. Yes, should you yell at people. No, it's
an a hole move. Should you yell from in front
of your kid? No, A hole move? But do we understand? Yes,
I think justified. A hole is where we're going to
leave it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
Whoo.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
But yeah, that is our Karen story.

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