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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
I married my sister in law. My family did not
take it well, keeping it in the family. So to start,
I realized my situation is just insane and not normal.
Never in a million years would I have imagine ended
up in this situation. Okay, backstory, I knew I was
into chicks from the moment I was old enough to
have a crush. Hello. Well, I am lucky enough that

(00:39):
my family were not horrid but monsters or disown me
or anything. But they were not accepting and saw it
as a face. By the way, this comes from helpful confusion.
If you want to spit your own stories, go to
our slash Okay Storytime subreddit. So I rebelled a lot
growing up. In the moment I could, I left home
and moved across the country. I still in contact with

(01:00):
my family phone calls and holidays. My family paid for
my school. I don't want it to sound awful. They
were just annoying. We never saw eye to eye. My
older brother was the only person in my family I
was ever close to. He always supported me and was
like my best friend. Skip ahead a bit. My brother
was my family's perfect son. Oh. He joined the military,

(01:24):
met a girl, got married, moved back to our hometown,
had three kids. Every Sunday they all went to church
together and then had a big family dinner and lived
the perfect postcard life. Okay, this was my life ro now.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
He literally is like the white picket fence postcard.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
We would go to church on Sundays and afterwards have
dinner together afterwards. That is a common trope. And then
my brother was unlived in a car accident, no wasted
driver or anything, just someone losing control on ice. And
at that time my life was h double hockey sticks.
And I had been struggling with depression, and I had
a huge, very public failure in my career that I

(02:04):
would not be recovering from. I had no money, nowhere
to go, and on top of it, losing my brother
an only real family I felt I had, was the worst.
My sister in law had been verily close before all
of this. We would talk on the phone often and
hang out during visits. I adored her. After this happened,

(02:25):
she suggested I move in with her and the kids
and help her out with the kids and the house
while she stepped up more in her business. My family
hated this. They wanted her to sell her home and
the business and move her and the kids in with them.
But after a few months things calmed down a bit.
My sister in law kept a very close relationship with
my family. She felt it was important for the kids

(02:48):
as well. I was there and mostly nagged and asked
when I was getting a boyfriend, because my mom is
a stereotype lo. Well, this relationship didn't just spark over
the bonding of losing my brother or anything. It was
very slow. We were like best friends and kind of
acted like a little family together. She had told me
she was by and had daity girls in college. Nearly

(03:10):
three years after we began a romantic relationship. At first
we kept it completely secret. Then once we knew it
was serious, we shared it with the kids, who were
very accepting. Then our friends, well, we kept it from
our family. Wonder why we have been together seven years now?
I propose and she said yes.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
My goodness, Wow, wow, wow, so this was three years
after the brother had passed.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
And they started like, you know, being a family, like, hey,
let's uh, let's keep this family going. That's really sweet. Wow.
The problem, obviously, if you have been following along, my
family did not take the noose well at all. They
have now threatened to disown me if we go with this,
and the worst, they have threatened to try and take
the kids because we have an unsafe gignetic copy pasting relation.

(04:00):
She and I are not related by blood.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
It was about to say, I think they were saying,
I think that was the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Wait, so Opie and her brother are related by blood? Yes,
brother married. Yeah, so this kids kids are related by
blood there? Yes, would this be a word?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
No, it wouldn't at all be because the it's only
when the relationship itself. So she is their aunt, but
she will now become their mother.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I know it's strange, but we are just two people
who fell in love. We are not allowing them to
see the kids now because they said awful things about us,
and try to get them to say awful things. They
are also trying to go after my brother's estate and
the house, saying they somehow have the rights to do it.
They have been trying to savotage our wedding. After we
sent out the RSVPs and got them back, we had

(04:50):
probably ninety percent of the family cancel because she talk
them out of coming. We have already spent the money.
We wanted a beautiful, big wedding and it's ruined. And
I know that it's just things and it doesn't matter,
but it still hurts. I wanted that dream wedding and
it's gone. My fiance is heartbroken. She felt like they

(05:11):
were her family and they just portrayed all of that.
She wants to try and talk to them and make
them see the light. But honestly, I don't know how
or if it's even possible, and we got comments I
in a million years would have not seen this ever coming.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, I think that it could be possible in like
years down the line, but certainly I think right now
they're very much in their probably like hurts of losing
the sun is kind of coming back, and then also
a little bit of that bigotry surrounding the same relationships.
So I feel like right now, especially because they're threatening

(05:51):
legal action and taking the kids away, I think it's
focusing on you guys and making sure that you're all
safe and protected.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Anyways, comments, Oh you're if you haven't have your wedding
with the friend and family that you support you at
whatever size that turns out to be. Stop wasting your
time and energy on trying to make these people see reason.
Hopefully they'll drop the threats when they realize it's not
going to get them the outcome they want. And you
can decide to either cautiously reconcile with anyone who apologizes

(06:21):
on a case by case basis. But unless and until
that happens, and frankly I suspected, won't you need to
get out of the idea that you can have a happy,
welcoming family experience you want with these people who insist
on controlling what that looks like, and protect the unit
you're building together, Ope says. A lot of people have
given the lawyer advice. We have briefly spoken to hours

(06:43):
about the estate and business. My fiance one hundred percent
handles all the business and honestly has just been so
upset about it that it has been too difficult to discuss.
The lawyer seems slightly concerned that my parents would have
some type of legal standing who knows. Sometimes if like
you know, there's like sometimes there's partners, and like they'll

(07:04):
have like their parents be like a little bit of
an ownership of it in case someone dies or whatever,
like to be people to take.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Away from the mom would be crazy. Well, maybe the
estate is what they're worried about rather than the kids,
because I don't know how much legal you know, ability
they would have to take away the kids from their mom,
especially if there's no danger going on in the house.
But maybe the estate could be a problem.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, and plus they got a good lawyer. Yeah, money matters.
They did help my brothers start the business and gave
him all the money for it. Oh, they might be
looking for their payment back.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, they're like, we put money into this, we want
it back now.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
But I was under the impression that they did not
own any part of it. The lawyer told us not
to discuss it with them at all, and he would
look into it on our end and get whatever legal
documents my parents are claiming they have. He told us
not to worry, but he didn't want to give us
anything until he knew more. We haven't discussed the kids
with any lawyer yet. We have an incident where my

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mother and aunt picked up the youngest from school early.
My mother was on the list of people who could
pick her up at the time. They took her out
for ice cream and interrogated her over our relationship, ask
if we kissed in front of them as we drank
or did substances, and asked how much money we spent
and stuff we bought. But as far as I know, dude,

(08:20):
this is kind of like know those things that are
like you get free q pons where you have to
tell us what you bought and how much money you
make a year. That's what that sounds like. Sounds like
they're gonna get that data and sell it to people
that It was like.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Here's we just have a couple questions. Nothing suspicious going
on here.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
How many times did they visit Ralphs this week? Okay once? Okay?
How much approximately do they make in groceries? Okay?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
We are part of the Christian science group, but don't worry,
we're not scientologist.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, oh man, scientologists. But as far as I know,
she hasn't contacted CPS. She has only had contact with
the kids once after that with us there and it
turned into a huge and she hasn't seen them since
We've got an update and about a fourth of the
story left.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Ooh, I think you need to go like wherever your
kids go, you needn't make sure that no one has
access but you, guys, because you have to make sure
that like pick up drop off, your mom is not
doing that anymore, she's off the list, and that you
talk to the teachers and tell them about the situation.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Through the front desk. Lady update. First, I want to
say that you were all the most amazing people and
is inspiring how absolutely kind of beautiful people can be
to strangers, even so when family isn't. You so touched
my now wife in an emotional way that it's truly
helped us and more so her go through this. And

(09:43):
there are no words for how thankful and touched we are.
We did get married. It was beautiful, very small ceremony
and we had many great friends that made it truly special.
My wife one hundred percent wanted to invite you all,
but we couldn't for reasons I will get into below.
Because we're strangers can fight. Wait, she's gonna get into
a below. Why you don't have to get into this.

(10:06):
We were actually able to get several of our deposits
back or partly back. After explaining the situation, we moved
to the location to a friend's property and a friend's
aunt made us our cake for free. Most importantly, I
married the woman I love and got to share it
with those who truly mattered and loved us. No, my
parents were not there, some extended family was so the

(10:29):
reason I went quiet and took so long to update. Well. Sadly,
my parents did end up doing some worse things like
truly satan on earth sadistic as many suggested. We went
discussed it with a lawyer and he told us not
to discuss it anymore. At the time. He was like,
stop stop talking about it. They'll hear you the walls

(10:53):
that it may somehow affect things negatively for us. He
actually wanted me to delete the post, and we I
went through and saved all of our favorite comments as
I was prepared to delete, but I obviously didn't do it. Loo.
I can't go into all the details. Wonder why, but
things got very very ugly, but I can say that
in the end everything worked out really well for what

(11:15):
it was. My parents came to a semi sensus with
the help of the lawyers and never getting any contact
with their grandchildren again. They also ever ties with our
business and dropped everything. We are in the process of
moving three hours away so that we won't have to
deal with the stress and drama of them and the
town and everyone knowing we are also making some major

(11:39):
steps in the business to allow us to do this.
My wife and my relationship with my parents, I don't
think we'll ever recover. While they did apologize and make
some effort, it's just too much anger and hurt there.
They have all been cordial, but there is little to
no trust there now. They are not allowed to visit
with the children at this time and maybe in the

(12:00):
future supervised or when they're older. They do get a
weekly supervised FaceTime. The kids don't truly understand why this
is all happening. Heck, I don't fully grasp it. It's
just been really hard on them. They don't get why
we did it spend Thanksgiving with grandparents and why we
won't see them at Christmas. And by the way, you
could see us on any holiday that you make or

(12:21):
that is actually real. All you gotta go to is
your favorite podcast platform, which would.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Be iHeartRadio or sometimes Spotify or sometimes Apple podcasts and
search up.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Okay, storytime and will be with you, hold your hand
through any holiday.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
We'll be here this Memorial Day, so any other thing.
I think that's very fair. You guys are like, it's
gonna take some time. Yeah, they apologize, but also they
sued you basically, I think they at least got lawyers involved.
Seems like it was very ugly. They were trying to
get your children involved, saying nasty things about them, and

(12:58):
it seems like only the thought of never seeing the
grand kids again and some other legal stuff gotten them. Yeah,
got to them. So it's like, oh, you didn't do
it out of love for me, It was because you
were gonna lose something, you feel it. Yeah, So that
it definitely would take a lot of time and a
lot of them apologizing and making, you know, doing the work. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It is kind of crazy how much like parents flip
as soon as they don't have access to the grand babies,
Like what about your children.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Already eight at eighteen years with them, they're still hoping
the little ones.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, I think that's the hardest part in all of it.
As much as it hurts me that my parents did
this to me, and treating me this way, knowing that
the kids got hurt sucks. They still love their grandparents
and that is why we are allowing them to still
be in their life somewhat. Anyways, things are truly good
though right now and again I can't thank you all enough.

(13:54):
Just at that time things were so horrible, and being
able to read through the comments with my wife and
see your and smile it was beautiful. I seriously credit
the friendly, sweet people for helping us get through that.
I hope someday I can pay that forward. And that's
the end of that story. Here we go.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Seems like it's on the road to you know, a recovery.
Seems like it's good for you and your wife.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
A happy no contact ending.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
My sister in law revealed my location to my ex,
even after repeated warnings not to.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Maybe you should turn off your location on your phone.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
This story needs a lot of background to fully grasp
how severe everything is.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
So buckle in. My ex boyfriend Jake.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Twenty seven male and I twenty seven female, broke up
a few years ago. We had been together for over
five years, and we're thinking about marriage and buying a house.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Together.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
In the last year of our relationship, everything fell apart.
By the way, this comes from uncertain nom and if
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r slash Okay storytime suppered it So long story short.
You had a sudden psychotic episode and was placed in
a mental health ward mental health facility attached to hospital.
This is in Australia. FYI for his safety. Following this,

(15:07):
his entire personality change and he developed delusions, hallucinations, and
paranoia which never went away. A large part of his
paranoia revolved around ME controlling people around him and thinking
I was trying to make him look crazy. He also
constantly accused me of cheating on him and told me
many times that he hated me. He was let out
of the hospital after some time, and I took responsibility

(15:30):
for him. This change in him was heartbreaking. He was
eventually diagnosed with schizophrenia. I did everything I could to
be there for him. I went to all of his
mental health appointments and stayed up at night to make
sure he didn't leave the house alone. He was prone
to wandering out at night when experiencing psychosis. Things became
too much for me to handle. He became angry, and
his paranoia about me made it impossible to help him.

(15:52):
He didn't trust me to be close to him, but
at the same time, he didn't want me to leave
a site, as he was convinced I was cheating when
he seemed to be doing a little better mentally, I
broke up with him. It's like, Okay, you're good right now?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Right because like she doesn't want to break up with
him when he's no, I mean, she.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Feels a lot of responsibility for him, it seems. I
waited until I felt he would be okay on his
own and helped organize for him to move back with
his parents. I was filled with guilt for that decision,
but it was the right choice for me. I was
struggling for months, I received no love and was used
as an emotional scapegoat. I did my best. He wasn't
the same person anymore, and his resentment for me was intense. Obviously,

(16:33):
this is in the full breakdown of his mental health issues,
as a lot of things he went through are very personal.
I never blamed him for what happened, but I needed
to be happy and did what I needed to do.
It was a messy breakup, but it went better than expected.
We kept talking for a little while as friends. I
think the entire time we kept contact, he assumed we
would get back together at some point. I continued helping

(16:55):
him when I could, and I started a new relationship
with my current partner, Sam thirty manl Well. Jake had
a really bad psychotic episode. He accused me of cheating
on him with Sam before we broke up, which makes
no sense. As I met Sam after we broke up
and sent both of us intense messages. I managed to
contact Jake's family, who got him the help he needed.

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Following this, I caught all contact with Jake. It was
obvious that we couldn't maintain a friendship anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I would just move away, states away, go somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
You would have to be very careful about you know,
I mean, clearly we know the title of the story,
but about who knows information about you and stuff, and
also just like being aware of what he's capable of,
because it seems like right now at least it was
just the awful messages and sort of verbal stuff. Yeah,
and his family is still taking care of him. But
I definitely think that no contact is a good idea.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Agreed, definitely no contact. I'm thinking, like, they're probably going
to do delivery groceries at their house, but you don't
need to live in fear. Wait, you think that they're
going to deliver groceries. I'm just thinking, if we see
this guy at a Walmart, what are we gonna do?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well? I mean, yeah, I guess it depends on where
you live and if you have like a place that
you see him a lot. The only slight connection I
have to Jake is my brother's girlfriend, Jess twenty nine female.
She and Jake have been friends for years and have
maintained their friendship. She knows the entire background to our
relationship and never chose sides. I would say, I'm close
with her. We have always been friendly. It always made

(18:25):
me happy to know that Jake still had a good
friend to confine it shift forward to March twenty twenty two.
I got pregnant with Sam's baby in January and was
three months pregnant. I had just told my family and
close friends about the pregnancy. I told everyone to keep
it quiet as I didn't feel ready to publicly announce it.
I was incredibly emotional, nauseous, and in no state to

(18:47):
deal with any potential fallout at that point. Less than
twenty four hours past after telling my side of the family,
and I received a phone call from Jake. He had
found out I was pregnant and left a voicemail else
saying he would be filing for custody of the baby. Obviously,
he was in a psychotic episode, so I ignored his
calls and let his family know that he had reached

(19:09):
out to me. By this point, it had been over
a year since we had even spoken. He has no
idea where I live or work, so I'm not worried
about him showing up physically to confront me. I knew
the only way he could have found out would have
been through chess. I called and confronted her about it,
and she admitted to it. She was extremely apologetic and
said she didn't think it would matter. She thought he

(19:30):
would be fine with the news and said he deserved
to know.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
No, he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
What he doesn't deserve to know private information that OPI
told everyone to keep to themselves.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Sounds like a noe. S Where we read where I
think we read it. It was there was a guy
that was hooking up with his chick and his chick
wanted to get with Opie's boyfriend. Remember that the pick
me girl that played basketball, y, Yeah, that's what it
feels like. I feel like Jess is trying to like, no,
you need to work it out, and they're like hooking
out on the side and they're like, no, you need
to like be good with them, blah blah bla blah

(20:03):
blah blah.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
But it's like, well, I just think it's like, one,
it's weird that she told him anything about Opee because
Opiece said, don't tell anyone this. But also it's weird
that she is friends with him and should know better
about what kind of triggers these things, Like it seems
like every time he learns about something new about Ope,
it triggers a psychotic episode, And so for her to

(20:24):
say something.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Else it's huge.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
That's like a huge deal. I think for anyone to
find out that the Rex is having a child, it
would be like, WHOA, that's news. To tell a person
who has schizophrenia that who like has been known to
have episodes after finding information about the.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Rex is just so stupid to me. It is very close.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
I was upset by this, but I hadn't explicitly told
her not to tell Jake, so it could have just
been a mistake. Even though I told her to tell
no one, I bit my tongue to keep the peace.
I forgave her, but made it very clear that she
shouldn't tell Jake any more information about me or the
baby and it would never happen again.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I don't believe you.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I didn't hear anything from Jake for months. Last weekend
was my baby shower. Sam and I had the baby
shower together. It was more of a party than a
traditional baby shower. We hired a function room at a
bar and invited eighty people to come celebrate. We were
all having a great time until I saw Jake standing
at the bar looking around. I managed to slip away

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without him seeing me and grab security to get him
escorted out. The area had been roped off for us
as a private function, so I simply told them he
hadn't been invited. I watched as security approached him and
asked him to leave. He was furious and started yelling,
demanding to talk to me before he would leave. So oh,
he was at a park. This was the baby shower
and he shows up to the baby shower whoa. Sam

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and several friends went over to try and talk him down,
but it only escalated. He screamed at Sam, claimed that
he was the baby's real dad and that we had
never really broken up. But it's so I mean, like
honestly really like sad because this isn't true. Yeah, this
is not just like a person who is spotting lies
for the sake of spatting lies or whatever. This is

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a person who's mentally ill. Just doesn't seem like the girlfriend.
The brother's girlfriend gets that.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Boundary.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Theres like I can't blame any of this on the
guide on Jake because he's literally mentally ill.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Like this is Jess's fault, this really is.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
At this point, I left to hide in the ladies
room until my mom came to let me know Jake
was gone. He had eventually left after a little more screaming.
I was mortified. We cut the baby shower short. I
couldn't stop crying. It has now been only a few
days and I've confronted Jess. She's the only person who
would have possibly told him the location and time of

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the baby shower. I wasn't as kind on the phone
with her this time. She admitted to telling him and apologized,
but said, how can I keep this a secret from
him by shutting your mouth?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah? Also information diet for Jess. Oh my goodness. Yeah,
we're done.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I was furious and told her that she would no
longer receive any news about me or the baby, and
that I would cut her out of my life. I'm
not proud of it, but I screamed at her. I
couldn't believe how irresponsible she had been. It wasn't her
news to share. My brother called me after and asked
me to forgive her. At least he didn't ask you
to apologize. He knew she was wrong, but he didn't
think he should also be punished for what she had done.

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He knew that by cutting her out, I also wouldn't
be telling him any news about the baby. In part,
he thought I should blame Jake for his reaction and
not Jess. That she hadn't known he would show up.
The damage was already done and I should let it
go out. No, we're not blaming the mentally ill person
for the actions that they cannot control. Yeah, this is

(23:44):
I'm sorry chizophrenic and he had a psychotic episode.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, it's not his fault. It is Jess who freaking
knows that. Yeah, and then was.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Like, yeah, I'm gonna tell him anyway, even though he
has histories as a history of doing this anyway.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, this guy is not thinking like everyone else, so
we should should have blamed that on him. Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I honestly don't blame Jake for what happened. He is
mentally ill and needs help. It's not his faults, and
I know he will regret all of this when he
comes back to a more clear headspace. I told his
family what had happened, and they told me he was
readmitted to the mental health Ward. Regardless of whether I
think he is at fault, I definitely don't feel safe
with Jake now, course not. I have a child to

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think about, and him thinking it is somehow his is
pretty scary. I haven't budged with Jess or my brother.
My family all think I should forgive her so my
brother can meet his niece and nephew. We don't know
the sex yet, but I just can't trust her. She
already broke my trust once, and I'm furious. I could
have been hurt if Jake had confronted me at the shower.
So many things could have gone wrong. I don't know

(24:45):
what to do. I'm heartbroken that my brother may not
get to meet this baby for a while, but I'm
scared that she could tell Jake information about the baby
that could put us in danger. My parents and other
family members have all agreed not to tell Jess or
my brother any information about the baby upon threat of
also being cut out like this is.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Your ex, Yeah, just normal circumstances.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Let's take the mental health issues out of this. Stop
telling my ex things about my life.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
That'd be nice.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I just don't know how long I can feasibly cut
them out before I crack. Sam's obviously on my side
with all of this. If it wasn't for him, I
would be in a much worse state. Any advice would
be appreciated. I'm finding it hard to stick them up
you pews on this and worry that news we'll leak
to Jess from other family members. My parents were particularly

(25:34):
hesitant to promise not to tell my brother when the
baby is born. After I twenty seven female, made that post,
I was overwhelmed by the response from everyone. Thank you
for all the amazing advice I received. It definitely put
everything into perspective for me and made me take things
more seriously. I decided I should post an update as
I received a lot of messages asking what happened. I

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received a lot of comments doubting the motives of Chess
twenty nine female, and unfortunately, you guys were right. So
I had my baby earlier than anticipated. I'm happy to
announce that Sam thirty Mail and I now have a
beautiful son. He is currently ten weeks old and was
born at thirty eight weeks. We are absolutely smitten with

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him and couldn't be happier. Not long after I made
my original post, Sam and I moved into a new house.
We had been living in a one bedroom apartment and
decided we needed more space for our growing family. Part
of our decision on our house was that it was
further away from my brother and Jess. Our apartment had
only been a five minute drive from them, and I
felt uncomfortable knowing that Jake twenty seven Mail could potentially

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be visiting and we could run into him while walking
the dog. I also didn't trust that Jess hadn't told
them where we lived. Our new house is now a
forty five minute drive away from them, and I feel
much safer. We didn't tell them the location of our
new home. We had been living in our new house
for about a month with no issues. I heard from
Jake's family that he was on an extended mental healthhold

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at the hospital as his psychotic episode was not subsiding
and he refused to take his medication. I also warned
them about his relationship with Jess, and they seemed to
take it seriously. They said they would keep an eye
on them and told the hospital that she was not
to be allowed visitation with him. Smart because I was
thinking really quick. Not only did she tell Jake that

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they were having a baby shower, she told him where
and when she wanted him to come. Oh, my family
stopped pestering me to forgive Jess. My mom had a
heart to heart with me and finally understood why I
had to cut my brother out. I didn't hear anything
from my brother. Apparently my mom had stepped up and
had a conversation with him about the severity of what
Jess had done. It broke my heart to push my

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brother away, as we had been so close. But after
reading all of your comments, I knew that I had
to be responsible and keep my baby safe. Unfortunately, things
didn't stay so calm. After a few months, I received
a call from Jake, finally been released from the hospital
and was embarrassed about his behavior at the baby shower.
He told me he knew that the baby wasn't his.

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He cried and asked to speak with Sam. He wanted
to personally apologize him. Sam didn't want to talk to him.
I told him I forgave him, I knew it wasn't
his fault, and that we.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Should move on.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
I was also very firm with him and told him
that under no circumstances would I let him around me
or my baby. If he tried to contact us, I
wouldn't hesitate to call the police. He accepted that.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
And our conversation ended.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
About two weeks later, Jake showed up at Sam's workplace
demanding to speak with him. They had a short conversation
where Jake broke down in tears and begged to be forgiven.
From what Sam told me, he didn't seem to be stable.
In his apology. He said, I'm so sorry for confronting
you in a public like that. I should have spoken
to you privately. Clearly you didn't know that the baby

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isn't yours? And you were humiliated in front of your friend.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh dude, Oh man, it's so tough.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
To see paraphrasing here, Bless you. Sam didn't want to
provoke him, so he said he accepted his apology and
asked him to leave. Sam then called me to let
me know what had happened. I was shattered. Obviously, Jess
had told him where Sam worked. Can we arrest Jess? Yes?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
What is her problem? Well, she hate you, just might
her tongue where she's able to speak Simon to CARSA.
I've seen her happen before. I mean, like, what is
going on?

Speaker 3 (29:33):
I'm calling my brother and I'm saying, hey, guess who
showed up at Sam's work today? The only person who
freaking knew where or could have told Jake where Sam
worked was Jess. Don't come near us or I'm going
to call the police. Like I'm finally a restraining order
on you, guys.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I was about to ask what the next move on
that is.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think it's like you get the law, like you
know the courts involved or something, because this is dangerous.
It also is very very like manipulating Jake to do
Jess's dirty work here.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
It's yeah, it's horrible.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I called Jake's family to let them know what had happened.
They told me the next day he hadn't come home
and they were extremely worried. He wasn't meant to be driving,
as his license had been suspended. He had been caught
speeding several times, but he had taken his mom's car
without her permission. A few days later, he was found
by police in a building that was under construction, completely
out of it and confused. He had driven twenty hours

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away from our town. He was taken to the local
hospital and placed in their mental health ward. His family
flew up to retrieve him. To this day, I still
haven't heard any updates on Jake. I assume he is
still in a mental health facility. His family always updates
me when he's released. Good that's kind of them. After
all of that, my brother called me and asked if
he could meet up with me for lunch one day.

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He sounded upset on the phone, so I agreed. We
met at McDonald's. Then he told me all the crazy
stuff that had happened with Jess. Apparently, when Jake got
out of the hospital following the baby shower, and he
had shown up at their house to see Jess. My
brother was really worried because he could tell that Jake
was in a manic episode. He kept an eye on
Jake while he visited and noticed that he was being

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extremely touchy feely with Jess. You started to seem flirty
with him as well in front of your brother.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Now called that, oh Jess, yeah, I mean, just in
the same boat as him right now.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
It made him really uncomfortable, so he made an excuse
about him and Jess needing to go to a friend's house.
When Jake left, he and Jess had a massive fight.
He confronted Jess about the flirty behavior, and she was
extremely defensive. She flat out deny that she had been
flirting or that Jake had been touching her at all.
What he's like watching you guys do it, and you're.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Like, no, no, this is all in your head, man.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
My brother decided to drop it. Not long after we
later realized this happened. On the same day that he
had gone to Sam's workplace, Jake showed up at their
house again, but this time Jess was at work. My
brother works from home. Jake told him that he was
in love with Jess, confessed that they had been sleeping
together and showed him a bunch of text messages between

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the two of them to prove that he wasn't making
this up. My brother asked him to leave. When Jess
got home, he confronted her. At first, she tried to
deny it, but eventually confessed. She begged my brother to
forgive her. She had realized after his outburst at the
baby shower that she didn't love him. My brother was
furious and told her to stay with her parents for
a while. Ever since then, he hasn't heard from her.

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It's been months now, and it looks like things are
over between the two of them. I mean, how did
your brother like he was just making so many excuses
for her, Like clearly.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
She was in the wrong.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
My brother feels terrible about what Jess did to me.
Although I want to let him back into my life fully,
I still don't trust that he won't eventually get back
together with Jess. The two of them haven't officially broken up.
How have they not officially broken up? This is not
them getting divorced? How are they still together?

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Once?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
And until that day comes, I won't be sharing my
address or photos of our son with him. So far,
my brother has met our son once at my parents' house.
By the way, you can come meet up with us
all the time if you listen to full episodes of
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is a little bit left to this story, Keon, Do
you have any thoughts?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yes? Nice, Oh well, I'll share my thoughts.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I mean, it's good that your brother finally realized, you know,
that Jess was not a good person. But it's frustrating
that it took Jess affecting their relationship rather than you
being affected, to finally realize that she was a problem.
But I think it's a good idea to, like not
necessarily give him any more contact with you or your

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family until he's fully cut off from Jess, because the
fact that they're not a officially broken up is very
weird to me.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
It is it is, and it's time to move out
of Crazyville, if you ask me, That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I also feel like just this very predatory of Jake,
you know, of just using him to go mess with you,
of knowing that he has these mental breaks, but there
is a little bit left to this story. I still
don't know why Jess decided to tell Jake about my pregnancy,
but I'm so glad she isn't in our lives anymore.

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I haven't heard anything from her or Jake since I'm
constantly worried he could show up again. I've developed some
strange OCD behaviors after it all, needing to check that
all our doors are locked five times and touching all
of the windows in her house before I can go
to sleep. Other than that, things have been peaceful so far,
and Sam and I have been able to enjoy our
new life as parents.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, you do enjoy it, honestly. Maybe restraining order and Jess,
you're gonna have to, yeah, because these people are direct
threats and is messing with your mental clarity. And I
really hope you find peace. You deserve that.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Hopefully, now that the baby's out, you got this spoonderful
relationship with Sam, we can move into a new stage
of life and sing Jess and Jake behind John Here.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
We're gonna get back to this juicy story.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
But a quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
My sister abandoned her son.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I don't want her to come back.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
If you abandon your son, I'm abandoning you.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
My entire family seems to be torn, and I feel
like everybody is making good points. I want to do
what is best for my nephew in the situation. I'm
going to try to give you guys the black and
white version of this. I want you guys to give
me honest advice. I want to make sure that I
am not letting my emotions harm my nephew or stop
him from doing something that he should. By the way,
this comes from question feisty ninety five eighty three, and

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if you want to submit your own stories, go to
the r slash okay story times suppreddit. So this story
may be a little confusing because I have to tell
you guys what happened six years ago. First, I will
use fake names for this post. I was twenty two female,
now twenty eight. My sister Abby was thirty now thirty six.
My nephew, Sammy, was fourteen, now twenty, and my boyfriend

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was twenty three now twenty nine, and my husband. Six
years ago, Sammy lost his childhood best friend. These boys
were so close that LJ. Would come with us on
family vacations. They had known each other since they were three,
and people would think that they were twins. LJ passed
away in a car accident when he and his father
were hit by a wasted driver. Oh my goodness, I'll
be honest, it hurt. I felt like I lost a nephew.

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LJ and Sammy would spend the night at my house
all the time when one of their moms had to work.
Sammy was understandably distraught. Abby would tell you that he
started to act out, But I don't see it that way.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yes, he acted differently, but.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
I feel like every parent here would have given a pass.
Here's a list of the things that Sammy did that
Abby couldn't handle. His grades dropped from all a's to
b's and c's with mostly bees. He would skip one
of his classes to go hide in the library because
the teacher made a memorial for LJ and he couldn't
handle seeing it every day. This was also within the
first week of his passing. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
He didn't want to play.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Basketball anymore because it reminded him of LGE. He later
told me that it made him so sad to think
of all the plays that they made together. I know
I'm not a mom, and Abby would always say I
would have understood if I was one, But I still
feel like Sammy was a kid who lost his brother. Basically,
three months after LJ passed, Abby and Sammy showed up
at my house. Sammy was crying and had a bag

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with him, and Abby told me that either I could
get him or.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
She would drop him off on the street. What.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
I told him to go to my guest bedroom because
I didn't think that he should hear that stuff. That night,
I tried to talk to Abby. I asked her what
was going on. At this point, I told Abby that
I thought losing LJ affected her too. LJ used to
call her his second mom. Abby ignored me and left
my home. Oh wow, Sammy moved in with me, and
it was hard. For a while. Abby just moved away.

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She stopped responding to my messages or calls. She would
call our parents, but she would hang up if they
mentioned Sammy or me. She went no contact with all
of us. Oh wow, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Oh? Oh?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Going on?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Now?

Speaker 4 (38:01):
I'm unsure if this is true, but I believe it is.
A few days after Sammy moved in. I asked him
what happened with his mom that night. He looked me
in the eyes and told me that Abby said the wrong.
Boy passed away that night. My stomach is d disgusting.
Oh my god, that's not your mom.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
That's not his mom, that own son. No, that's not
his mom, you're his mom.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
No.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Now Abby denies this, but six years later, Sammy will
still say it word for word.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
You don't forget that. Oh.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
There are certain moments where someone says something to you
because memory is flawed. Memory is something that is changeable,
Like it's not fact sure, but there are certain phrases
and words that people will say to you that are
so deeply impactful that you will never forget.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, Like, well, if you don't remember, it clearly didn't
mean as much to you as it did to the
person who said it. Too.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Abby changes her story.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
At first it was that she would never say anything
like that. Then it was Sammy was overreacting. Then it
was that it's too long ago for me to remember. Again,
I don't want to say something happens that I'm unsure of,
but I one hundred percent believe my nephew, my husband,
my boyfriend at the time helped me to take care of.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Him, and we put Sammy in therapy.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
It was hard. I felt like I became the mom
of a teenager overnight. My parents tried to help, but
it was a lot for all of us. Currently, Sammy
has gone to college and just finished his second year.
Sammy got an amazing internship, and my husband and I
threw him a big party in early May. Abby showed up,
saying how proud of her boy she was. Sammy just
stared at her before walking away. She spent the entire

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party telling his friends and everyone else how she raised
such a fine young man. After the party, Sammy told
her he never wanted to see her again and that
he didn't have a mom. Now this is where I'm torn.
Some of my family feels like Abby deserves the second chance,
but I don't. I don't want to let my feelings
hold Sammy back, but I really don't think she deserves it.

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I remember calling my sister for weeks trying to get
her to talk to her son. I remember when her
son broke his arm and I texted that he was
in the er. And I remember his first date. I
remember when he graduated high school. I remember driving him
to college. I remember my husband teaching him how to drive.
I remember every time I tried to contact her, she
had more than one chance. My mom believes that I

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am afraid of losing my maternal role in Sammy's life.
But that's not it.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
You couldn't.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
I have always kept the mindset that I'm an aunt.
It's just when you have a fourteen year old cry
to you because his mom won't answer his calls and
ask you why she doesn't love him, that changes your mind.
Should I encourage Sammy to see his mom? Also? As
an add on, Sammy doesn't want to deal with her
at all, but my mom believes that if I encourage it,
he will. Abby is also asking me to help her

(40:42):
reconnect with Sammy. And there is an edit. I have
a quick edit to make. I apologize if this is
incoherent because I am pissed. Long story short, my mom
called Sammy this morning asking if he would fix something
on her smart TV.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
No no no, no no no.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
No oh, but he agreed to do it before he
came over here for dinner.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
To trap him.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Yeah, my mom and Abby bombarded him. I am pissed
already about this But that's not the worst part. The
worst effing part is that I thought Abby came back
because she was remorseful or regretted everything. But no, Abby
was engaged to a man who has a nine year
old daughter. Apparently, when the guy found out that she
abandoned Sammy, he called.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
It off, and yes he should. I don't feel bad.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
For you at all.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
This is not a person who deserves, like for her
the audacity to abandon her son and then only come
back into his life when she needs him to look
better in the eyes of her fiance.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Yeah, she just is trying to marry this person and
this is like the final step.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
He is a step in her plan and that's it.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
That's despicable. She only wants to bring Sammy around so
that he can pretend his mom was always in his life.
The guy said that he couldn't marry a person who
would just abandon her son.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, I am trying my best to be respectful to
my mom, but I could honestly cuss her out. It
is taking all of my power to not drive to
her house right now. And there is an update, but
oh my goodness, oh my goodness, I thought that would
just be a quick, little like clarification thing, but that
was like a whole update in itself.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
I was gonna say, like, no, you don't need to
encourage yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Then they do. Anyway, I think that I was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
It was also, no, you could if you wanted to
go to him and say if you want to ever
see your more. I'm not going to, you know, say
anything against that, but I also support you and your
decision to not ever want to see her.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
I mean he's twenty now, twenty, so that is it's not.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
A child he's keeping him from his mom. He can
do whatever he wants.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah, but he also needs to know that, you know,
you're always there for him in a way that his
mom has never been exactly Exactly honestly, I would say
like limiting contact with your own mom. Yeah, I want
the's mom to like really know what's going on, because
it feels like she doesn't.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Yeah, so I'm just like, what is this. I don't know,
but we do have an update. I would like to
thank you all for your messages. Sammy and I sat
down and went through each message to help us both
know that we made the right choice.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I want to answer a few questions.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
A lot of people wanted to know why I was
doubting my decision to not support Abby's and Sammy's reunion.
The answer is that I have had two miscarriages in
the past three years. Oh wow, and after the second one,
my husband and I decided to stop trying. Every time
I would bring up how my sister abandoned Sammy, my
mom would say things like, you will never understand what
it's like to be a mom, or you'll understand if
you ever have kids, and she would punt me while

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I was down. I know it's weak, but those moments
would make me shut up. She would also say I
was keeping Sammy from Abby because I could never be
a real mom and was scared.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
That she would take him. I let all of that
get to me.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
People also asked about Sammy's dad.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I never met the guy. I don't know if my
sister knows who he is.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Honestly, she used to say that they met at a game,
but again, I never met him.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Now the update.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
This morning, my husband, Sammy, and I decided to go
to my mother's house. Before we went, I showed Sammy
this post, and he wants to say thank you.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
To all of you.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
My family was starting to get to him as well,
and hearing other people, especially parents, say that what his
mom did was unforgivable, helped him a lot. Sammy is
in therapy and has been since he was about fifteen.
The very first thing I noticed when we arrived was
how little Abby interacted with Sammy. At the party, Abby
kept trying to touch him or talk to him, et cetera.
But this morning she looked up and that was it.

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It made me feel like she's only a mom when
others are around. My mom immediately started asking if we
wanted to get over the past and become a family.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
No, they're both your mom and your freaking sister. Yeah,
are both moms when it looks good, Yeah, when they
want something exactly, it's these are not moms.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
You are a mother. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
And it's not the past anymore. Like it's still happening
because she still doesn't want to come back for the
right reasons. No, just trying to desperately get some sort
of marriage to work out.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
The fact that either of them said I can't remember
which one, but like, whoever said that you weren't a
mother is ridiculous, ridiculous motherhood is not simply giving birth.
It is raising the child. Yeah, loving that child. Yeah,
no matter you know the circumstances, no matter if they
get a B or a C like, that's not There

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are no conditions in loving your child.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Yeah, Sammy said that Abby, he refuses to call her
mom had to at least apologize. Abby dared to say,
I didn't do anything wrong, you were horrible. I am
normally a calm person, but this time I saw red.
I immediately stood between them to tell her that she
was a horrible mom who barely deserved to be called,
that he lost his best friend. He can miss a

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few answers on a test. Abby also tried to pull
that you will never be a mom, and I pulled
out my phone to find this thread. I searched every
message that detailed how horrible she.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
And my mom was.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Abby threatened to make her own post to expose the truth.
Side note, Jamie, my sister's real name. I dare you
to tell these people the truth. Make a post trying
to excuse abandoning your fourteen year old in a moment
when he needed you the most, and how you only
want to come back because your ex fiance refused to
marry such a monster. Sammy also said that if he

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finds out that she made a post on her, he
will make a post and include screenshots of all the
times he texted and called her and got no response.
At this point, I thought I was getting through to
my mom. She was starting to read every message and
was realizing how she was enabling my sister. But my
sister immediately went, you exposed my business on the internet,

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and my mom immediately started to braate me. At this point,
my husband spoke up. He told my mom that she
wasn't welcomed into this house and told my sister that
if she contacted his son again, he would press charges.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Boom yoo.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Sammy also added that if his mom contacted him ever again,
he would find her ex online and tell him everything.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Good. By the way, you can always find us online.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Just go to Spotify, iHeartRadio, Apple podcast search. Okay, storytime,
we're gonna find full episodes with more stories just like
this one.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Get on over there? But oh my gosh, there's a
little bit more to the story. But how we feel it?
Any final thoughts before we move on? My final thought
is you are a mother. You mean, regardless of your mother,
regardless of.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Whether or not you gave birth to Sammy, you raised
him and you cared for him. You still care for
him and his mother and your mother don't know how
to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Absolutely, Like Sophia was saying earlier, like, it's more than
just giving birth.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
You are his mother. That man is his father.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
You know, whether it's like legal or not, you have
been taking care of him, especially when he was literally
abandoned by you.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
So but there is a little bit abandoned by his mom. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Yeah, long story short. We are all going no contact
with my mom and sister, as well as anyone else
who tries to give us messages from them. My mom
already tried to convince my dad to make me talk
to them. Jamie and I have different fathers, but he
cussed them out. I talked to Sammy about everything, and
he did admit that this all felt like a setback.
He felt like he only mattered to his mom because

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she needed something. He will be talking to his therapist
about that. My husband and I are thinking about moving,
and this, of course will take some time. We always
planned on moving, but we didn't want to force Sammy
to change schools, especially when he got to high school.
I just want to say thank you all again. You
guys helped me realize that I was allowing my mom
and sister to take my miscarriage and use it to
make me a flying monkey. I know I didn't give

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birth to Sammy, but to me, he is my son
and that is the end. Oh my gosh, shah, Happy
Mother's Day a day.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
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Speaker 3 (48:49):
My parents gave my sister a huge wedding gift but
completely ignored mine.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Well that's just not fair, is it.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
I'm the eldest of three female twenty eight, female twenty two,
and male twenty My siblings have had an entirely different
childhood than mine. I was dubbed the problem child and
frequently butted heads with my mom.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Mostly.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
I left home at seventeen and never looked back. My
parents kept my siblings from me out of spite and
because they didn't want me corrupting them. By the way,
this comes from fighting Darwin and if you would a
sbmit your own stories go to the r slash Okay,
Storytime suppered it. So for the record, I was not
a bad kid by any stretch of the imagination. I
just had very physically and emotionally harmful parents. My sister

(49:29):
and I have begun to become close since she hit
about sixteen or seventeen and had a little more freedom.
My sister recently had an unplanned baby nine months ago
and is getting married next month, which I am not
exactly supportive of, because she and her fiance have many
problems they think marriage will magically fix, and a baby,
of course, which the baby didn't fix but was supposed
to do whatever. It's not my life, though I have

(49:51):
voiced my concerns to her and was waved off fine,
her life not my business. My husband and I got
married two and a half years ago, and I've been
together for a li eleven years. My parents argued with
me about the entire thing, made me cry many times,
and were awkward and embarrassing at the actual wedding, and
they never once congratulated us and couldn't even be bothered

(50:12):
to give us a card. Subsequent visits with the parents
had my dad mentioned something about a wedding present soon,
but there was never any follow through, and I never
asked because they'd flaked on me a lot before. I've
mentioned to my sister that their actions hurt me, and
she was sympathetic. Yesterday, we were discussing wedding plans and
she told me that Mom and dad ad gifted them
an early present in the form of a check or

(50:34):
ten k. I'm very hurt, and I wish she hadn't
told me. I haven't mentioned it to my husband yet
because frankly, as much as I know they sk and
are unfair, it makes me feel really broken that I
can't even have a normal, loving family like he does.
And I know he hates it when my parents make
me feel unloved unless that I am very low contact
with my parents anyway, but I can feel the urge

(50:54):
to withdraw, even from my sister, even though she has
done nothing wrong. It's not about the money, but the fire,
the undisputed evidence that they don't care for me at
all that really hurts. And I don't know how to
deal with those feelings or how to stay friendly with
my sister right now without ruining this for her. That's tricky.
I mean, it's not your sister's fault.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
M M.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
But I think it's a problem with you and your parents. Yeah,
it's you and your parents.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
And you can potentially, if you're close with your sister,
you could be like, yeah, I'm a little upset, like
this is not at all your fault, right, you know,
I'm a little upset because mom and dad like didn't
give me anything, and it's not again, not anything to
do with you.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I just don't know how to approach that conversation with them,
and I feel like our relationship is really complicated, So
just approaching it from like our relationship with my mom
and dad, not your relationship with your sibling.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yeah, common one. I think this is a sign for
you to go no contact with your parents. They only
bring you sadness, stay in contact with your sister, tell
her you don't want anything to do with your parents.
Opie says, Yes, I think this is the way to go.
I will wait until after the wedding, as I don't
want my sister to feel badly or distress herself out
even more. I know she feels bad because she kind

(52:03):
of blurted it out with a forewarning to not be offended. Reply, Yes,
your parents, but your sisters too. If she had to say,
don't get offended before telling you something, she knew she
was going to hurt your feelings and didn't really care.
She knows your situation, she knows how you would feel,
she knows how they treat you. Why would she even
bring it up? Is this information relevant to you or

(52:23):
benefit you in any way? I'm sorry, ope, but if
I were you, I would re evaluate my relationship with her.
Comment two says, you're over five years older than your sister,
so maybe your parents are in a different financial situation
than when you got married, or maybe they felt like
she needed it to have a wedding. I bring the
age up because a similar thing happened to my family
and caused problems. The reason was because my parents were

(52:43):
more well off financially for the younger sibling. Opie says
that is a fair point, but nothing has changed in
their financial situation in the last two years. Same job,
same house, no financial windfalls. Sister and fiance have a
lot of debt and spending about twice what we did
for our weddings, so that could be part of it.
There is an update. Any thoughts before we jump in.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
I mean, that is a good like question about the parents'
financial situation.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
But I still wouldn't blame the sister.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
No, I still yeah, I wouldn't be mad at her
for being like, I know this is gonna set you,
and I'm gonna talk to you anyway. I mean, it
depends on how the sister approached it, but I think
it is important for ope you to know it's relevant information.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, Like, yeah, our parents.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Are kind of playing favorites, right, Like maybe the sister
is like aware of that and be like, hey, don't
get offended, but like they gave me this money, you
know what I mean. It's like, well I am, but
not by you. Yeah. I feel like they can like
band together together. Well you could do that, or you
could come to the parents and be like, Yo, I
got married, where's my money, where's my money?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Where's my money? Man? Update.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
I appreciated all the responses on my previous post. There
was some very helpful and eye opening points made by
many kind people. I've gone fully no contact with my
parents now, and I've asked both my sister and brother
to be passing along information about mine and my husband's lives,
which they both agreed to. The wedding reception was a
bit of a disaster, but my sister says she had

(54:08):
a great time, and I guess that's all that's important.
The bridal party were all great people and had been
forewarned about the parental shenanigans that were sure to ensue,
and so we're ready to head off anything that Mom
might have pulled to ruin things. We got in the
day before and headed to the versal, which was supposed
to be just the wedding party and wedding planners, but
my mom decided to crash that with her friends in

(54:28):
tow I pretty much ignored her the entire evening and
did my best to help my sister, who was stressing
out because Mom was throwing a fit about the seating
arrangement and how things didn't look like how she envisioned it,
et cetera, et cetera. Day of the wedding went smoothly
through the ceremony, then a snag with the photos because
sister didn't take photos of my mom and her friends,
who she kept calling our family despite knowing them all

(54:50):
for maybe three years. Mom then cornered the photographer and
made him take photos of her and her girl and
various poses. Sister was just like whatever, since she already
got the pictures she wanted. Dinner happened, then speeches, where
my parents both caught up and made a speech about
how excited to finally have a son in law that aligned.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
With their views.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Blah blah went views when ope already is married to
someone so overall much less embarrassing than the one they
had at our wedding, where they mentioned things like dowries
in implying that I was their property to hand over,
never mind the fact that they had nothing to do
with me as an adult. The reception was going well
until my sister, who had wasted about three times more
than she had eaten the whole day, tripped on her

(55:30):
dress and face planted, giving herself a mild concussion and
a fractured cheek butt.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Oh my gosh, sheing medically trained.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
I looked her over and went to get an ice
back slash cold water and had sat her in a
quiet corner to settle her nerves. By the time I
got back, Mom was full on screaming at my sister
about how wasted she was, how she was embarrassing, she
was a bad mother. Because my niece had been handed
around throughout the night the relatives who wanted to have
some baby snuggles, and where was my niece anyway? How
could she not be attending to the baby?

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Blah blah, that's her wedding Jesus girl.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Niece was sleeping in her stroller and being checked on
by myself, my husband, and the wedding planners in the
venue's kitchen. At this point, I was interjecting and trying
to tell my mom to back off, that the baby
was fine and my sister needed to rest, and Mom
decided to jump down my throat and scream at me
for something I didn't really need to listen to her.
When I told her she needed to get out of

(56:22):
my face right now and walk away, she kept getting
up in my space and screaming more whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I can't be doing that. Get out of my face,
Get out of my face.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Then when I tried to walk away, she started attacking me,
scratching my arms and attempting to slap me.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
She's like, what is what this is? The mom? Yeah? Huh.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
I was a little dazed, and my husband had noticed
and come over quickly and separated her and told her
to go. Dad just stood by and watched this all.
Then had the audacity to tell my husband not to
get involved and then bring up a phone call from
four years ago when my husband had called them after
my mom made me cry about wedding plans and told
them nicely to go f themselves.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
What.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
We just walked away from him and went to sit
at our table, and my husband tried to console me.
The other bridesmaids, groomsmen, and groom were checking on my sister.
We watched his mom gathered her posse and my poor
grandmother and left the reception fuming. Other guests also began
to trickle out at this point, and soon it was
just the wedding party and planners left of the reception.
This is a crazy wedny, this really is. Since sorry, yeah,

(57:32):
I know, I mean this is your sister's wedding. Ye yeah,
well yes, sir. Since then, I've not breathed a word
to my parents. My sister and brother have both been
asked not to divulge anything about me to them, a
says my grandmother, whom I speak too frequently, and all
are agreeable and understand.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
That's good. You've got to support system. Still, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
My sister has been in regular contact with them, I guess,
and according to her, my parents expect an apology from
me for embarrassing them in front of all their friends.
I'm sure to them, screaming at your sister wasn't embarrassing
at all.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Yeah, why are the friends more important than their blood?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
They don't care.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
The thing is like, yeah, they gave your sister ten k. Yeah,
but they care about your sister as much as they
care about you. It just looks different because it's showing
up in a different way.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
I wonder if she's had these friends for three years
and OP got married five years ago. Well, I actually
don't know if it was five years ago. That's just
their age difference. But I wonder if they weren't friends
back then. Yeah, and now she is friends with them,
She's like, oh, I have to like look good in
front of my friends exactly and make this general's donation.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
I'm not sure what mental gymnastics they did to arrive
at that point, but what can you do? But you
don't have to do any sort of mental gymnastics to
listen to full episodes with stories just like this. Just
go to Spotify, Apple podcast or iHeartRadio and search a
pokey story time. There is a wee bit left to
this story. Any final thoughts.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
This feels like those like slapstick comedy sitcoms, you know,
where it's like people are falling out over people start yelling,
and then it's he's supposed.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
To be my wedding day. Oh yeah, she's just trying
to get married man. Yeah, just let her be.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Josh in the chat says, why is the sister still
in contact with the parents. The only way that I
can explain this is gonna sound silly, but here's the
show called She Rap Okay. And you have this character,
Shadow Weaver, who is kind of this evil character, and
Adorra and Catra are the main people. Adorra is this
golden child, and shadow Weaver is always like, oh, Adora,
like you're amazing, You're gonna be the force of you know,

(59:30):
for the Horde. And Cattra is this like person who
can do no right in Shadow Weaver's eyes. And so
the whole thing is that you find out really wow,
she is upholding like Adorra as this perfect person. Ador
is like cracking under the pressure of having to be
perfect in her eyes. And is still being like in
a way, even though to Catra it's like, oh my god,

(59:54):
they love you. And so to put this in this,
your sister, yes, is getting ten thousand dollars but still
has to be this perfect child like is still affected.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Yeah, absolutely, but that's my thought.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Unfortunately, their pettiness is causing tension with regards to family occasions.
My niece will be one soon, and with Christmas coming,
my sister said Mom told her that she would not
be in any room or occasion in which I am present,
and refuses to even be cordial. She told my sister
that the next time she sees me, she will make
sure I know exactly what I did to her. Because
of that, in not wanting to ruin my niece's first birthday,

(01:00:29):
and because I know my sister is stressed about this,
I won't be attending the baby's first birthday, but I
will see her the weekend before so I can give
her her present and spend time with her. This does
make me sad, as I love my niece and want
to be there, but I don't want her memories to
be of bad times between Auntie and Grandma.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
And that is the end of that story.

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