I ran AWAY from home after an argument… my father got disowned for it! | Reddit Stories - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Ever, after I ran away from home after an argument,
my father got disowned for it.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
How did he get this own for?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
That's usually the other way around, is it not.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah, wait, didn't you just disown yourself? I'm so confused.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
This happened in twenty twenty, but it recently got brought up,
so I thought i'd ask. So I seventeen female used
to have a great relationship with my stepmother. I genuinely
saw her as a mother figure in my life, and
I was so excited when she found out she was pregnant.
But everything changed in twenty twenty when I had to
stay prematurely with my dad during the lockdowns because my

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mom is a surgeon. By the way, this comes from
user Unhappy Tiger seventeen fifty one. And if you want
to submit your own stories, go to the arslagh Okay
Storytime subrad I didn't submit them there so at first,
everything was innormal until my stepmother, Tammy, was about four
months pregnant. She started snapping at me for no reason,
and things that she didn't care about before now bothered her.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Now. I wasn't a messy or loud person.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I did everything I was asked and respected the rules
without any backtalk. But no matter what I did, she
got angry. It got to a point where she couldn't
stand being in the same room as me. I remember,
I ended up staying in my room most of the time.
I only left to do chores or get something from
the kitchen. Even at that she would get mad. One day,
she came into my room angry and started yelling that

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my room was so smelly it was making her sick.
I pointed out that the only mess in the room
was a half bag of chips, which caused her to
burst out crying. As always, my dad babied her, then
made excuses, saying she was struggling over lockdown, pregnancy, and
not being able to see her family.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Okay, I don't think she's trying to take it out
on you as of right now. It just seems like
she's a surgeon. This is a really tough time for
anyone in the medical field. She's also pregnant.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
My mental health was extremely bad.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I felt like I was a piece of trash and
that any day my dad was going to throw me away.
I was always scared my mom would get sick. It
got so bad my hair started falling out. And the
breaking point came when I was at the kitchen table.
I was reading a story on my phone, waiting for
my cereal to get soggy so I could eat it,
which I hate that sentence, but I'm going to ignore

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that and continue. When Tammy came in, she huffed, then
started cleaning loudly, complaining about a mess, even though the
kitchen was spotless. Then she took my bowl and threw
it in the bin, literally even the bowl. I just
flipped and started yelling at her, asking what her problem
with me was, and called her some not very kind words,

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among other things. My dad came running and got in
between us. She demanded that I leave the house and
that I was never allowed near her kid. Dad walked
me to my room and then said something that ruined
our relationship forever. He told me that I must be
doing something to Tammy, because no one hates a kid
for no reason. He also said if I kept stressing
her out, I'd have to move out. I then made

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a social media post asking someone for a place to stay,
explaining the situation in detail. I then packed a bag
and climbed out of my bedroom window a bungalow. This
is such a seventeen year old story. Yeah, your dad
was totally fair for saying what he said.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
So was he correct?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Like, No, I'm sure there are people who like hate
kids for absolutely no reason other than you know, I
don't like that kid. But your dad's just being like,
there's gotta be something that's setting her off.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, and he's just putting the finger at you. I
don't know, you didn't do anything wrong, but this was
again during this time. It makes a lot of sense
because there was such hot tension in everyone everyone's home,
and everyone was mentally just drained.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, everyone's totally whacked out right now. And Ope, you're
probably trying to get ahead of the curve. Ope already
made a comment how she felt like I'm gonna get
kicked out any day, or you know, I'm so anxious
my hair's falling out.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
It just sounds like a seventeen year old, like the
world's out to get me kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, no, it's like you're not gonna kick me out.
I'm gonna leave. I'm not gonna give you the chance.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
No, it's like I'm an adult now, or like I'm
about to be an adult. I can stand for myself. Yeah,
it's just one of those things where no one really
communicated and it was just high emotions.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Seventeen. I wouldn't have been able to have this conversation
at seventeen at all.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Me neither.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
No, I probably would have done the same thing.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
After about thirty minutes, my phone started blowing up, and
I just turned it off and went to a friend's house.
I texted my mom off my friend's phone to let
her know everything. She didn't call for seven hours because
she was in surgery. She said my aunt would pick
me up the next day. My mom told my father
I was okay and that I'd be staying with my
aunt for two weeks until she could come home.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Did I switch up? So is Tammy's step mom and
then Opie has another mom like her actual mom? I'm confused.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yes, Tammy is step mom.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Mammy a stepmom, But is Tammy also a surgeon?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
No? Mom is surgeon.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Quick edit, Tammy's not a surgeon. That's Opie's mom. But
everything we're saying about people being completely out of their
minds during lockdown is still true regardless of if you're a.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Surgeon or not.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Anyway, my mom told my father I was okay and
that I'd be staying with my aunt for two weeks
until she could come home. Apparently, Dad and Tammy had
to go door to door to my family or friends'
houses looking for me, you know, after I made the post.
Let's just say they got a lot of crap. My
grandparents still don't talk to him to this day. My
aunt packed up my room because I refuse to go

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back into that house. I've not spoken to my father
in years or met my half brother. Tammy and Dad
still try to fix our relationship. Apparently, sometimes pregnant women
develop a hatred against people or pets for no reason.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
This is all literally happening over literally spilt milk. Yeah,
she threw the bowl of soggy cereal.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Away, which you shouldn't be eating soggy cereal, you little
loafeed whatever. No, I can't say that, but like I
would have thrown it away too, because that's ruined cereal.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
I like soggy cereal.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I hate it. I need crunch.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Literally, that's what it is. A teenager, got there?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
What's this seventeen year old dude? That's all this is.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Is this seventeen year old being in seventeen year old
fights and yeah, it's like your pregnant step mom is
yelling at you and crying and screaming. It's like, well,
if you're older, you just understand, like, I'm gonna let
all of this go because this is just a big
pregnant lady and going in like one of the weirdest
times in our history. She's stressed out come on turn
in eighteen in three weeks and a cousin's girlfriend asked

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me about inviting my dad, So I told her the story.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
She told me.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
While what they did was wrong, what I did was
an a whole thing too, because I made them worry
and stress and go to multiple people's houses during a pandemic,
which put a pregnant woman with mental health issues at
risk by my whole stunt.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
So am I the a hole for letting my dad
think I was missing? Yes?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, but you're also seventeen, so kind of no, Lets say, no,
one's an ahole here. It's just you're seventeen and she's
super pregnant. So let's read these comments. Comment one, You
were being mistreated by this woman to the point you
were losing hair, and your father chose her. You did
the right thing to protect yourself, even if this was
something medical with her due to the pregnancy. The two
adults in the situation owed you far more grace and understanding,

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and you got He told you it was on you
because his wife couldn't possibly hate someone so much without
a reason while knowing dang, well, you weren't doing anything wrong.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
But do we know that though?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Is it really like that's we know for a fact
that no seventeen year old could possibly be contentious with
their step parent. Yeah, are we really buying that? Of
course they could be. He doesn't know. He's not with
them at every second of the day. How's he supposed
to know that there's nothing being instigated. He can live
with those consequences. If they can't apologize without blaming you,

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then there is no real apology happening.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Not the ahole. I mean, you know, I think everyone
can apologize here you can apologize first if you want.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
At the end of the day, that never matters. Do
you know how many times I've tallied in my life
who has apologized first in an argument?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Zero?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I don't know, I have none. It just doesn't matter.
The point is to move on from that entire moment
in your life.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
I think he was trying to call and apologize, but
you didn't pick up the phone. You literally denied him
that to give him the apology, and they were freaking
out looking for you, houst. How block to block? That
shows that they genuinely care about you.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Give me the update here update, and I'm gonna give you
guys a heads up. The context changes really radically here at.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
The top of this update. To stick with me, Hi.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Guys, I honestly thought I'd never give an update, but
here I am. I'm gonna call my cousin's girlfriend Sarah
and my cousin Paul. Remember that so I mentioned in
a comment I uninvited Sarah from a party yesterday.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Paul came over to talk.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
He told me Sarah had issues in the past with
her younger siblings and it was apparently really bad. Like
Sarah's siblings lived with their mom full time and she
lived with her dad. Long story short, Sarah was diagnosed
with bipolar disorder in college and went to therapy. Paul said,
even though Sarah had apologized to her siblings, they wouldn't

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have anything to do with her, which breaks her heart.
Paul said Sarah told him that when I told her
what happened to me, it triggered her because it reminded
her of her situation with her siblings. I didn't mention
in the other post because it was irrelevant to what
I was asking, But Sarah had texted me about letting

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go of the hate links to sites about family members
with mental health issues, the numbers for family therapists, and
even subredits on here. He told me Sarah wanted to
meet up to clear the air and apologize about this
in person. I said, okay. Sarah texted about half an
hour later about collecting me because she wanted to drive

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to a new restaurant that had opened in the next
town over as her pre birthday treat to me. We
know what she was planning, but Tammy ruined it for her.
Tammy the stepmother by calling my mom to tell her
Sarah's plans to help us make up. I wrote my
dad a letter two days ago. As a lot of
you suggested, I put everything in there and told him

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how it affects me to this day. I told him
I wanted a relationship with my brother, but I wasn't
sure I'll ever want one with him. I told him
to leave me alone because his actions are only pushing
me away even more, and if I ever decide I
want to talk to him, it will be on my
terms with my mom present. The letter ended up being
five pages long, and you guys were right. It did

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make me feel better. My mom dropped it off that
day and Dad asked to meet her A day later.
They talked about me meeting my brother, and my dad
said he wants to buy me a car, no strings attached.
They Tammy, and Dad also asked if it would be
okay to give me money to get myself something for
my birthday. You guys are gonna hate me for this,
but I'm taking the car in five hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I don't hate you for that.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
This is such a seventeen year old Storty.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
You're seventeen.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
You have no idea what you're signing up for by
cutting your dad out for the rest of your life
at this point.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, put yourself in your dad's shoes. He was trying
to support everyone at this time. He doesn't mean what
he said.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, I'm sure he did.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh, he's missing the point about what her dad said
when he said, I'm sure that there's something that's being
done that's causing this, you know, him being like, you
need to fix that or you can't stay here.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
And again we're getting this from Opie's perspective.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
But it's like Dad's just trying to get to the
bottom of this and he assumes that you're starting crap
and you can't let one assumption ruin your relationship with
your dad for the rest of your life.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, and I guarantee you the last thing he wanted
to do was point the finger at his pregnant wife.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Ease, he can't do that. She's pregnant and you're seventeen
to rock in a hard place. That's the new version
of a rock and a hard place, the pregnant wife's
seventeen year old daughter. Okay, if he wants to give
me more, he can because college supplies and moving into
a dorm are expensive. Now back to Sarah My cousin's girlfriend.
She basically contacted Tammy, my stepmom via Facebook. Tammy sent

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my mom the screenshots, telling her everything I said, then
asking Tammy her side because Sarah didn't believe me. To
Tammy's credit, she told the truth and took full accountability.
It was Sarah who kept trying to make out that
Tammy was the victim. Sarah told Tammy about her own
past and said she tried to mend our relationship. Tammy
told her that she didn't want her to. The last

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message was Sarah telling Tammy the location in time we'd
be at the restaurant. She even said she'd drive me
so I couldn't leave, even though I'd just ask a
waitress for help or to call my mom. My mom
posted the screenshots in the group chat and called Sarah
a bunch of names.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
You told her if she ever came near me again,
she'd regret it.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I blocked Sarah and left the group chat, so I
don't know what happened afterward. But Paul came over with
my aunt and swore he knew nothing about it. To
be honest, I don't know if I believe him, because
he was trying to defend Sarah again, which got him
a verbal lashing from my aunt and mom. Oh God forbid.
He tries to defend his girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Who's trying to help you men, your relationship with your
step mom and your death.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's it. Really.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I'm gonna update in a few months to let you
guys know how everything went with my brother. I feel
like I owe everyone that after so many people helped
me to take that step, because honestly, words can't describe
how happy it's made me. Literally the best birthday present
I could have gotten. Thank you so much for the
amazing advice and people sharing their own expres experiences. Even
the woman who suffered from mental illness. Tammy did and

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it helped me understand it a bit more. But I
still can't forgive her. I don't think we can ever
rebuild our relationship, especially to what it was. There's another update,
let's get right into it.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
One thing. Trying to buy someone's love is not the
way to do it, but I know that's what the
dad was trying to do.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
It might have just been a timing thing where he's like, well,
damn if my kid doesn't want to speak to me
ever again, I was going to get you a car
when you were eighteen. I wanted to get you a
gift for your birth date. It's like, well crap, It's like, okay,
can am I allowed to do this?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Now?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Not everyone has the fortune to have that be the case,
but when parents can help out like that, a lot
of times.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
They want to, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
So it would make sense that he's like, oh, yeah,
I don't know I was gonna get this as a
graduation thing or that, And it could be very well
the other way around, because you can't buy love, You're right.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
It shows that they still care about Op.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Exactly, because they're also respecting Ope's boundaries.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Op's being like, I want nothing to do with you
and anything will ever be the same, And Tammy and
her dad are just like, all right, that's okay. And
you know, Sarah's being like, Tammy, come to the restaurant.
Tammy's like, no, I'm not coming to the restaurant. Sarah's
got her own trauma that's making her do this, so
she's not a villain in the story regardless. Anyway, let's
get into this update. Hey guys, as promised, here's the

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final update. Short version.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I turned eighteen three days ago, had a great time,
met my brother.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Sarah tried to get in contact with me again, and
I've spoken to my father and Tammy. It's easier to
break everything down Sarah. A day after I made the
last update, my mom booked a holiday for a week
to get away, which was really random and sudden for her.
Three days in, my mom got a notification that someone
was at our door and it was Sarah. At first,
Sarah was normal, asking my mom to talk to me.

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Then she started explaining herself in her situation, which fluctuated
between sad and angry. But suddenly she freaked out, started
calling me names and threatening me while damaging our door
and porch. She even broke the ring camera and was
extremely scary. I don't blame her siblings for not wanting
anything to do with her.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Did we not forget that Sarah has a bipolar condition.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Mental health disorder? I got a mental health agnosis. Why
are we slam duncan on these people who are mentally ill?

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I mean, still not great to go to someone's place
and then switch up and then ruin their porch.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, you know, I don't know how old she is,
but you're both young. I had a friend at seventeen
tackle a police officer on his front porch.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Guess what.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Mentally unwell, Sarah was arrested and my mom is definitely
pressing charges. I don't know much about her situation now,
but I'm not gonna lie. I've been looking over my
shoulder a lot since. For those wondering, Yeah, her and
my cousin broke up. He's, let's say, shaken up, worse
than me and very apologetic my brother. My birthday went great.

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I had such a good time. Honestly, I've got the
best mother and family in the world. He really made
my eighteenth special. I got so many amazing presents, but
my favorite was the sister necklace my brother gave me.
Obviously Dad or Tammy got it, but I finally get
to be his sister, and that's what I've wanted for
so long. We've spent some time together and I'm seeing
him again tomorrow. He's so extremely he adventurous, never sits

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down for a second. He loves Miss Rachel and Green.
Don't know who those people are. We're gonna keep going.
I found out he and the neighbor's cat will stare
each other down, which I used to do when I
stayed at Dad's. I could talk for hours about him.
I'm so glad you guys helped me meet him. I
can't thank you enough for that.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Dad. My dad was there the first time I met
my brother. I knew beforehand.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, yeah, because it's his child. Obviously, my brother is
a toddler. So we met at dad's siblings aunt's house.
Dad's siblings aunt's house, so his aunt your dad's aunt. Anyway,
I was told he'd stay. Obviously, my brother is a toddler,
so we met at dad's siblings aunt's house.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's a wild combo.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I was told he'd stay in the kitchen the whole time.
I caught him peeking at me and my brother a
few times throughout the day, which of course he's gonna
do because he's a human being who's also your father.
When I was leaving, my dad followed me out and
just hugged me. He told me he misses me. I
hugged him back and told him I missed him too.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
As you know.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
It was the first time I've spoken to him in years.
He apologized, took accountability. I started angry, crying, then just
let everything out. I told him how they made me
feel my mental health and that I'll love him, but
I'll never forgive him.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Dude, you were right there.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You're right at the finish line. Dog, you were right frickin' there.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
You literally had the most heartfelt moment. You know what,
eighteen year old forgiveness will.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Come, eighteen nineteen whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I just hope that when you realize that you want
a relationship with your dad and you do forgive him,
that it's not like too late. Those are the most
tragic events in people's lives. It's just like, what if
I wish you know, you had it right there, You angry, cried,
you said how it made you feel, and then it's like, dang,
you literally said you missed him over what spilt milk,
over literally a bowl of cereal being.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Thrown in the trash, and he said something really dumb.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Honestly, statistically, I bet you what he suggested is more
often than not, exactly what's happening. The seventeen year old
in the situation is instigating in some way. I would
have done that if I was seventeen, I'd be instigating.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
But the thing is, that's one of those things where
when we were seventeen, we didn't learn, So I guarantee
you we can't tell Opie how to feel and how
to forgive.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
We can't.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
It's just up to Opee. It is. This is on
Opee to forgive her father when that time comes.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Your dad's respected your boundaries this whole time. He's just
been waiting.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Tammy too.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
He asked me if he could try to make it
up to me and be a part of my life again.
I said, we can try, but I'm making no promises
on ever getting back the relationship we once had. Seventeen
we've spoken a few times, and he has helped me
when I needed to bring my large.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Dog home from the vets.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Now to Tammy, you guys are gonna be shocked, but
I was the one who contacted her. I got my
mom to call her to basically say, Jessica is with me.
She wants to speak to you. Jessica being o peep.
Tammy was obviously shocked, but agreed. I told her, after
everything she put me through and how much she hurt me,
that we'd never have a relationship. But I'm willing just
for my brother's sake, not hers or mine, to be civil,

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because I want us to be able to attend my
brother's events without drama seventeen. By the way, you can
listen to full episode with stories just like this, all
the juicy drama you could ever want in your life.
Just go to Spotify or iHeart or Apple Podcasts wherever
you listen to podcasts.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Just search, Okay, storytime.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
It's pretty easy.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's all you have to do.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's a two step program. Go to where you listen,
type in the name and that. Technically the third step
would be to hit the search button, and then the
fourth step would be listening.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So it's a four step system.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
So he lied to you.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I did just a little bit, but I corrected it.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Let's just finish it up.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Hammy started apologizing and telling me she's not like that anymore.
She got help, which I'm glad she's doing better. We
talked about the Sarah situation and my brother for a
few minutes.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
The whole call.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Maybe lasted twenty minutes. I've not spoken to her since,
but that was only five days ago.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
So that's it.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Really my last update. I know what people are thinking
about my dad. I've not forgiven him and he will
have to work extremely hard to get back the relationship
we lost, but I feel better that he's back in
my life, and I do believe both of them regret it.
But if I get any crap or think my brother
isn't being treated well, I will make their lives hell.
Seventeen Thanks so much Reddit for the amazing advice. My

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name is Jessica, and I'm praying I'll never have to
make a post on here again.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
And that is the end of that story.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
I give it some time. I think everything's gonna be
repaired and op, he's gonna realize. Yes, whatever she experienced
wasn't fair to her and wasn't right. But I give
it time. I think everyone here is trying to get
back on the right path and the right relationship. Yeah,
just some time, some growing. Just let things be and
things will be healed. But that is the end of
that story. My family excluded me from the vacation because

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I'm not a woman.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh we got man secluded here? Oh boy.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
I'm a twenty eight year old male and my immediate
family is all women. Mostly this is because I was
raised by my mother and have no contact with my
father's side of the family due to a messy divorce
when I was young. My two sisters in their early thirties.
My three aunts, two who are my mother's sisters, and
one married into the family and married my aunt, and

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they have an assortment of close friends of all of
the family, all of which are women, that also go
to these events. By the way, this comes from U
zero Throwaway zero two two four one one one one
and if you want to submit your own stories, submit
them to the rsish ok storytime separating. So, about three
years ago, my mother had an idea to do a
girl's only weekend. Originally this was to see one of

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the Magic Wife movies and I remember those, and because
it was such a hit, they started to do these
weekend outings once or twice a month. Originally, it didn't
bother me because I'm an adult and I have my
own life and my own house, and I really didn't
even think about it, oh okay, but an incident recently
made me annoyed at the whole concept. My aunt's birthday

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was in January and normally we go to her favorite
restaurant for her birthday, which also incidentally is my favorite restaurant.
So I bought her a present and a card, and
I waited for an invitation and none came okay. When
I asked what was going on for her birthday, I
was told they celebrated it early on their girl's Day
because she was going to be out of state during
her birthday. This kind of irked me because when I

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mentioned I bought her a present, my mother told me
to just drive over to her house and give it
to her.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Just really quickly. I've seen literally nothing wrong with this
so far.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
I felt pretty left out since I am the only
male in my immediate family. Having a girl's Day is
the equivalent of saying, Hey, let's allwrate my birthday but
not invite OP. That's fair? Was everyone there? If everyone
was there other than OP, which it seems like it
kind of was. I griped about it and was told
that I was basically being self centered and that she
can celebrate her birthday however she wants. I agree with that,

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but once again, I'm the only one being left out
and it feels crappy. The proverbrial straw that broke the
Campbell's back was I was just also informed that they
were planning a summer vacation this year as a girl's
only too, And when I asked my mother what about
the vacation we normally take as a family. She told
me that they can't afford to do both, so they
are just doing the girls only vacation this year. At

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this point, I was very annoyed and had a loud
argument with my mother and sister, telling them that it's
really crappy that twice a month they have group activities
and specifically exclude me, and on top of that, are
now even taking vacations and guess what excluding me. Nothing
came of the argument and they wouldn't budge. So I
decided I needed a break from my immediate family because

(23:26):
they don't consider my feelings relevant. So I removed myself
from their family group chat and deactivated my Facebook. Now
my phone is being blown up and I'm being told
that I'm immature and I need to grow up.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Okay, so did you inform your family you'd be doing this?
Because if you did this without saying anything to them,
and you essentially ghost blocked all of your family, Yeah,
you are being immature.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
You had an argument, a yelling match, and you didn't
win it, and nobody budged, and then your next step is,
all right, I'm just gonna ghost them like you know what,
I lost the argument. I didn't get them to move.
I'm just gonna remove myself from the equation.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I very much doubt that they don't care about your
feelings at all. I very much do think that the
way your feelings are being presented or shared, or you
know what have you is getting in the way of
actual communication happening.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
This would go vice versa if it was guys only,
same thing. It's just not fair. But you need to
let them know how you feel in an appropriate way,
not just yelling at them. I responded that a lot
of grown people don't see much of their family at all,
and I'm just going to follow that example. Am I
the A hole here? And we have a verdict in
some comments. I think the way you went out about
it kind of a holy I think the way they

(24:36):
made you feel and not asking you how you felt
about it rather than just them doing it behind your back,
that was also a wholly on their part. So I
think right now everyone kind of just sucks. Verdict not
the A hole. We have some relevant comments. This comment
has been downloaded, though this one says you are the ahle.
I initially thought, no a holes here, because it's natural
don't want to be included in family events. But instead

(24:58):
of having a calm discussion with our family about how
you were feeling left out, you had a loud argument
and assume that their girls' day events were created to
exclude you. And now you're throwing a tantruma but removing
yourself from the group chat and Facebook. Grow up. I
understand feeling left out, but your reaction was completely unreasonable.
That's a comment. This is op's response. It's interesting that
you're reading into the fact that it became a loud

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argument that it was my fault. I didn't get loud.
They did. But I'm not going to be yelled at
and called a child and just walk away. It seems
like you are reading the worst intentions into my actions
but excusing theirs.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Of course, it reads like you got loud because you're
the one being stiffed in this.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Situation, and you also put it as loud argument. We
have another downloaded comment.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
You are the hill.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Are none of these sisters or aunts married, because if
any are, then you are not the only male excluded.
You are a grown but man acting like a child.
The vacation one. I kind of understand being upset but
otherwise you are overreacting, op says. My mother is single,
my hona single, my other is a sapphic and has
a wife. My sisters are single. One of them is

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casually dating, but not official. These are the people I
am closest to, and it is literally a matter of
all my immediate family are doing something fun a couple
of times a month, and due to my gender, I
am excluded.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
That does suck.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
I mean, here's a question before we get into this.
Are you guys doing other things as a family. If
this is literally the only family events that they are
doing and you are being excluded from all the family events,
I get it, but I don't have that context of
are you being included in family dinners? Are you doing this?
Are you guys going out to movies whatever your family does?

Speaker 1 (26:34):
If that's the only fun stuff y'all do every month.
If they're getting the two girls' nights and you're getting zero.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
They are excluding you. But again, we don't have that information.
If that's the only thing you guys are doing, how
is that cool? The last time I did anything with
my family together as a group was Thanksgiving. Meanwhile, I
read all day in the family group chat about how
fun it was to go to the zoo and how
they just love that restaurant they went to last weekend, etc.
According to you, I shouldn't feel doubt, And am I

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overreacting for feeling that way? So now this makes a
little bit more sense. Yes, you can have girls days
and go to the zoo and do everything like that.
I get it, But they should have asked you. I
feel like they shouldn't include you in asking, Hey, we're
going to the zoo this weekend. Do you want to
go to the zoo?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
My sneaking suspicion is that the girls' night tradition has
been going on for a hot minute and Op never
voiced any real concern or upsetness about it for long
duration and is now realizing, Hey, I do feel some
kind of way about this, And now the debt of
all of those weekends and all those events that he

(27:38):
didn't get to participate in has turned him maybe a
little bitter about it. And it's not coming from a
places like you. Guys know, I like you right, Like
you don't have to just have girls' weekends so that
you don't see me because I do like you, Guys like.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
I like the zoo. I like food.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I like food and the zoo.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Again, yes, girls and guys can do whatever they want,
but if you're not including one family member because of
their gender on like every other weekend, it seems to
stack up and I would get better.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
The flip side of this is that actually, like OPI's right,
and they are literally just excluding him because he's the
only guy in the family. If that is the case, like,
once you've determined that, you take that information and you know,
you compute it and you process it, and then.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
You do what you've already been doing, which is just
like live your own life.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Man.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
You know what I would have done. I would have
texted the gripsad. I'm like, hey, guys, next girls Night
or Girl's Day, whatever you guys are doing, kid, I come,
I would like to be a part of it. We
have a deleted comment. Family vacations can be great and
it can hurt to not be included, but we are
not entitled to it. But that's just the thing. Ever
since I was a kid, these vacations were family vacations.
We rented out the same beach house, we spent time

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together for a week and bonded. And now I'm being told, oh,
we're still doing the same thing. You just can't come question.
Have you ever attempted to host or organize a get
together with your family? Opie says absolutely. I have get
togethers with them, my mother and my sisters probably once
every two to three months, and always at my invitation
when their schedules permit, which they often don't. My issue

(29:05):
is that the invitations never come the other direction. It
seems like all their spare time is now girls only
and they are busy otherwise. And this is the comment.
And of course, if this really hurts you, there's an appropriate,
calm and respectful way to bring it up to your family.
But your current reactions, such as having a screaming match
loud argument with your family, is not it.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Before he even responds, I'm putting this out there. It
takes two sides to have a screaming match, So I
don't want to hear op being like, I didn't even
start yelling. It's like, well, if you started yelling, it
doesn't matter when it happened. Now you're yelling, Opie says,
my conversation was calm and respectful until my sisters and
mother ganged up on me. And told me I was

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being an a hole for having a problem with being excluded.
I only got loud, So yeah, you got loud. I
only got loud when they got loud. When someone yells
at you, do you immediately walk away or do you
defend yourself?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I will tell you the best to do.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
If you're in a discussion with somebody and then they
get really loud, you go.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Hey, whoa, what just happened.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
I was having a civil conversation with you. I was
telling you my point of view, and now you're getting
a little riled up because you don't understand my opinion.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Don't feed your intensity or your emotions back into it.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Just go whoa, Hey, what happened?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
We were having a talk and it takes them completely
out of that moment, and then you know, productive.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Dialogue can happen. Another comment, not the ahole. Maybe if
you weren't the only male in the family, I could
see their position, But like you said, it feels like
you're personally being excluded. The vacation really crosses the line.
It makes me wonder about your relationship with them. Have
you been close prior to all this? And this girl's
day thing just got out of control, or have there
been conflicts before and they are handling it immaturely. Yelling

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at them won't change their minds, and to be honest,
I'm not sure what will, but try to be calm
and responsibly explain how they're making you feel and why
logically there is no need to have a girl's only
vacation or birthday celebrations when that just means excluding you.
I'm not totally again to them doing their girls' day sometimes,
but it doesn't seem like they're taking you into account
at all. Opie says, I'm very conflict free and low

(31:07):
maintenance as a person in general. My mother and sisters
always tell me that if I get any more laid back,
I'll be laying down.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Do they just think you're boring? Oh no, what if
they just think Opie's boring?

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Opie's just a chill guy. But again, they're thinking that
they're assuming, they are not asking, hey, do you want
to be included?

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'm kind of a coin flip between every woman sucks
here and no a holes here.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I think I'm right on the line. I can't tell
which one it is.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Though this argument with them was actually extremely out of character.
My sisters and mother, on the other hand, always have
drama with each other, and despite their drama, they always
seem to patch it up and still do things together.
I feel like the only person who is in causing
drama is me, and I'm also the only person not invited.
I'm not sure if I explained correctly, but these events

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happen multiple times a month, and at this point, the
only time I've ever included in celebrations in events is holidays.
Also to if we are close, I feel like we're
about as close as is abnormal. I wouldn't say I
confide to my mother's or sisters greatly, mostly because they
are kind of gossips and if you tell one, suddenly
the whole family will be discussing your issues. That's probably

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also why you don't want to spill the tea or
listen to the tea or sip that tea. And that's okay,
but I feel like those girls' nights, that's a time
for them to like let it all out.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
So they'd be doing stuff you wouldn't even want to
do anyway.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
But again, still tell them that you feel excluded. But
you should tell this not to only your sisters and
your mom, but your entire immediate family.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I would say probably write a letter.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Probably tell everybody, but not at the same time so
they can't gang up on you or like, so it
doesn't become contentious. Write them letters so you can get
all your thoughts clearly stated without emotion taking over.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
All you have to say is I don't feel like
we're as close as we used to be, and I
want to be in your lives as much as you
probably want me.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
All you have to do is say I want to
be close to you.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
I don't think I've done anything to cause but I'll
think about it and see if I can remember anything.
And then here's another comment. So then they think you
are a pushover. Anyways, You're not the a hole. What
kind of family isolates one member like that? Opie says.
The funny thing is I got a significant raise in
the last few years, and I make a good deal
more money than my mom and sisters due to my
profession having high earning potential. I was going to pay

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for the beach rental this year as a treat. If
I'm not invited, I'm definitely not paying. I guess I'll
find somewhere I want to go and see if one
of my buddies wants to come along and we do
have an update, and we're going to jump right into it.
This last month has been kind of wild for me,
so I haven't had an opportunity to update this until now.
The descriptions of my family and my family situation in
this thread were specific enough that one of my family

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members found out about it and confronted me.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I want to see, I want to know.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Due to the fact that I had deactivated my Facebook
and was only receiving their text messages, I didn't realize
what was happening before I was ambushed by it. My
sister oldest confronted me about it and asked if it
was me who made the thread, and I confirmed that
it was. She insisted I was being crappy for airing
the family's laundry like that. I responded that I in
no way did that, as I was speaking very generally

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and never identified who my family was.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
The sister literally doesn't even know what airing your dirty
laundry is. She's like, I can't believe you would post
our family business anonymously with all of our names changed
and enough details lacking that no one except the people
directly involved could know what it was.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
He's not airing your dirty laundry. He's trying to get information.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
He's trying to get people to give him advice when
you know you guys had allowed argument and didn't want
to actually talk to him.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I'm on OP side. Now the ladies are once being
a holes. Ladies just got it out for OP.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Let's keep reading. This spread to my family and now
the thread was shared on Facebook and everyone was shown.
I was invited to a family meeting. We never have
those in her invention time where I was sat in
front of a firing squad of angry women who told
me that what I did was wrong. In demanded an apology.
They said that I knew they weren't excluding me, and

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because I gave everyone that impression, I owed them an apology.
I replied that I absolutely did not know they were
not excluding me. Included examples of things that they did,
such as the birthday dinner, going into an amusement park,
and going to a baseball game. Once again, they characterize
this as girls' only events of fun where boys just

(35:26):
weren't allowed or welcome because they wanted to talk about
things guys wouldn't be interested in.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
All right, dude, I'll hang out like over there. Just
bring me. I'll be off to the side.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Sometimes I like to talk about t too, you know.
I replied that she needs to stop saying guys because
there's only one guy who to have been invited, and
that's me. So what she's really saying is it's a
nop event, not a girl's only event. They explained that
it wasn't excluding me because regardless of whether I was
interested in the event, the conversation would have bored me

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because I'm not a girl. At this point, we were
going around in circles. So I just explained my perspective.
I said that I'm the only male in our immediate family,
and when the people in my immediate family get together
on a regular basis, not a one off or once
in a while, and don't include me, regardless of what
they called it, I you'll excluded.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Okay. So that is totally fair and valid. All this
is fair and valid.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
However, the communication panel or the communication channel we are
taking is not effective. We are going in circles, So
how do we address this? Do you know how we
would address this?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Keon?

Speaker 4 (36:30):
I want to hang out with my family.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yes, don't make it like a You're doing all of
this stuff and it makes me feel a certain way.
Just skip all that and go I like you guys.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I want to spend more time with you. Can I
come on the trips.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I explained that the breaking point was the family vacation,
and that there was absolutely no reason to leave me
out of a vacation I was always invited to, particularly
when that's the only family vacation we do, and they've
stated they cannot afford a second one.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
We're finding who cares and who does it.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
At the end of this family meeting, I was never
given an apology. No one tried to empathize with my perspective,
and I was accused of many things that I didn't
do by any reasonable interpretation. I told my mother and
my sisters that we had reached a breaking point in
our relationship and that I was going no contact for
a while. I told them I'm an adult and I
have my own life, and the reason I wanted to

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be involved was because I didn't want one of those
family relationships where you only see your family at holidays.
Bear if that's not what my family wants, then it's okay.
But I told them that I was not going to
be involved with people who made me feel crappy and
attentionally left me on the outside looking in of my
own family. And by the way, you can look in

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bit more of this story, but I think we've set
our pe and you kind of said it at the end.
I just want to spend time with my family rather

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than see you at Christmas and Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Now that we've gotten to the tail end of this,
I'm doubting more and more whether even if OPI had
a perfect communication style, whether or not it would have
done anything. I really feel like, for some reason, the
women in your family have just decided to completely ostracize you.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
That's crazy that they just assumed these are girls only
activities and we can, you know, do all these fun
things without him because he's gonna be bored. Let's finish
the story off. My mother and sisters told me that
if I was going to lie about them to everyone,
they don't care. It seems like they care. At this point,
my relationship with my family is over. I left that

(38:39):
family meeting and have not reactivated my Facebook, have not
received any contact, and have not initiated any contact. Okay, seta,
seta is that it is what it is. Pretty much,
it is what it is at.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
This point, though, He's right, it's like it is what
it is. I said that earlier in the story.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
If you come to the conclusion that you really are
being excluded on purpose for all of this stuff, then
you just have to like move on with your life
and move forward with that knowledge and that information and
live your life.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Just hang out with your buddies and go do boys things.
That's the end of our story.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to this episode.
But a quick three minute break with Asthramur sponsors.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
My cousin made rude comments about my culture, so I
completely cut her off.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Why you gotta be so rude?

Speaker 3 (39:20):
I Female fifty eight have not been in contact with
my cousin, Female sixty since October last year, and I
feel guilty, even though my close family says it's the
right thing to do. I feel bad for not being
a friend, since I don't think she has many. The
only exception for the no contact is when she turned
sixty and I called her to congratulate her, but I
didn't send any gifts. By the way, this comes from

(39:42):
similar Refuse ninety one thirty three. If you want submit
to your own stories, go to our slash okay story
times up right, it's up. When we were little, I
was a lonely child and her mom used to work
a lot, so she came to live with us for
weeks on and every summer. She was with us so
much it was sort of a sister to me. Looking back,
she was a bully, but she can also be very
charming and fun. I believe even mom and Dad were

(40:04):
a bit scared of her when she was in a
bad mood. She also drove away the only friend I
had in my neighborhood by being extremely rude when said
friend came to play. I still remember that day and
how I stood in silence, too scared to say anything.
I think I was seventh. My friend left and never
came back. I'm still ashamed for not defending her. I
was told by my parents to be kind to my

(40:25):
cousin since she was a guest, so I put up
with a lot, but one day I had enough and
locked her in her room. I got such a scolding
for that that I have never seen the key to
that room since that was the only time I indicated
something was not right. I was very shy in an
extremely well behaved hit. As we grew up, we continued
to do things together. She came with us on family trips,

(40:46):
and when we went to the same university, she tried
to control who my friends were. That is the first
time I decided to not contact her but be civil
and kind if she called. This went on for a
few years, but when we started working in adult life started,
I went back to normal contact. She was also not
as controlling As the years passed. We had our ups
and downs, really fun time but also her treating.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Me like dirt.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
I just don't know if the extreams are worth it,
like if the fun times are worth being treated like.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Dir, dirt or scum like when she first had her
first child. After she got home from the hospital, I
asked her she wanted me to visit her to see
her newborn, and she said yes, as this was a
huge occasion in her life. I dropped everything and took
the train. It was a four hour trip, and when
I arrived in her city, I called to ask which
bus I should take to her house, But then she
said she had changed her mind and didn't think it

(41:36):
was safe for the baby to see other people. I
didn't have children on my own, and then so I
didn't know what to say. I guess she could have
given me a place to stay for the night. At
least I could have kept away from her and the
child the last train had left.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Oh why would you stay friends with this person? She
abandoned you in a city.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
And I was alone in a strange city with nowhere
to go. That's crazy, That's that's bonkers. I started looking
for a hostel to find a cheap room. However, fate
would have it that I called a friend who I
knew was going on a weekend cruise departing from the
same city, to get some sympathy and maybe advice. The
ship hadn't left yet, and she immediately contacted the organizer

(42:13):
as she was there as a musician, and lo and behold,
one of the organizers recognized me from a jazz festival
where I played.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
It so that I could tag along.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
So op just happens to play sick jazz music and
gets to go on the cruise.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Okay, but like that's.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
Really awesome story. You're like, yeah, this friend that you know,
it's not great. I was supposed to be visiting them
and then they told me to like that I couldn't come,
but I was already in the.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
City and I didn't know where.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
To stay on the base. Yeah for the saxophone.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
I literally just like found this random jazz.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Band, random traveling troop, and they took me in.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
And then I stayed with them for months.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Now I live with a traveling jazz band. So from
standing all alone in the rain in tears, don't know
if it rained, but it sure felt like it, I
ended up having a blast on a cruise ship for
two days. It's fun for free. This also meant I
forgave my cousin. I mean it was sort of because
of her. I had such a lovely.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Time in a roundabout way.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
It's super roundabout. No, it's because of your cool friend,
not her. Years went on and she had a divorce.
We met soon after and had a long talk. She
said she realized she hadn't always been nice to me
and asked me to forgive her for everything. I was
in tears and happily forgave her. It was a huge relief,
and I was so happy we could finally be the
loving sisters that we were supposed to be since childhood.

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She really had changed. She was considerate in a new way.
She'd always brought me gifts and been a fun companion,
but what I craved was just her kindness, and now
I had it. I've always felt responsible for her, and
I've been very happy for her success in life. She
has a great job as well off and also intelligent, funny,
and good looking, but she has only one brother and
very few friends. She can be very judgmental, and she

(43:53):
can say bad things about others, so she drives people away.
She has many good sides. She's charming and generous. Do
you wanted to go to a luxury resort to celebrate
and invited my husband and me. We couldn't afford it,
so he offered to pay okay, five thousand dollars, but
as we couldn't afford the other half, we had declined,
Oh my god, it's ten thousand dollars for the resort,
and she offered to pay half and now to what

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happened six months ago. I was inner City for work
and my daughter was with me. We had a very
exclusive invitation to a show with several performers from an
indigenous people I belonged to. As I felt I had
neglected my cousin and not had time to do things
with her, I asked my daughter if I could have
her ticket and she was okay with that. I have
the heritage on both sides, but my cousin has it
on her mother's side, so she is not a total outsider.

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My heritage is a huge thing for me and my children,
so this show is a big treat. My cousin happily
accepted the offer to join me and sounded really enthusiastic.
But I was in for a shock as the show started.
Most of the presentation between the acts was in the
indigenous language. I whispered a translation in my cousin's ear,
as she doesn't speak any of it. It was a
lovely show with music, dancing, reciting, and it took place

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in a small and theater. To my horror, my cousin
suddenly started talking to me in a voice that was
not hushed. She started criticizing the performances and asking where
the women were since the first acts were all male
and a snare. He said, it looked as if those
indigenous people needed some me too.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
What that's not even funny. I don't even know what
that means.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
I think she's saying, like, oh, actually, I don't even
know what she's saying. I can't tell if she's saying
like they look goffling or if there's just not enough
women there.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I feel like there, I feel like the like it's like, oh,
like they're abusers.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
They look look abusy.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Who is this woman?

Speaker 3 (45:35):
I told her that there were several women performers, and
then actually the most famous ones were women, and told
her that probably they wouldn't come to such a small
gathering since they were well established and didn't have the time.
I had hoped to be able to mingle during the
interval and get to know some new friends, but instead
I sat down with my cousin and a corner and
diplomatically asked her about the show and also about what
she actually thought about our heritage. I didn't want to

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confront her in ruin the evening totally, as I guess
I am a bit afraid of her.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Temper.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
But I find out she did not feel any connection
with my people, which is fine, but I do think
she should respect others. Uh yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
That seems a bit crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, dude, that's a bit of little bit too much.
I mean, you can't respect others. I mean there's too
many people to respect.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
I respect myself.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I also asked her not to say stuff out loud
in the theater like that, since it certainly could be
heard by a lot of the other people and it
was hurtful. The second act started with that very famous
artist I had mentioned. It was amazing, she was so good. Unfortunately,
my cousin said, so finally we get to see the
A class performers. Friend no more just cousin, no friend,
you maybe once were friend and cousin I said something

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about every act being awesome, but she did keep quiet
the rest of the time, but I was sitting on needles,
afraid of what she was going to say. We quickly
left afterwards, and I was so ashamed. The next day
I happened on a person that had sat in front
of us, and I apologized for my cousin's behavior. I
felt responsible for bringing her to this unique event that
should have been a safe place for everyone. I am
so sad that I wasted all that on my cousin.

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My daughter would have loved it. In hindsight, I realized
that this show was a once in a lifetime thing.
It was only that night and it will not happen again.
By the way, luckily, this show is not a once
in a lifetime thing. It happens every day, but feels
once in a lifetime because.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
You're never going to get back these jokes.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
You're never gonna get back these jokes, specially if you
come in live. So go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or
your favorite pod as app and search. Okay, storytime, there's
another relevant update. But let's discuss. Should this cousin remain
a friend or should it be banished to just cousin?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
This banish, banish him, I banish you, cousin.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
This person does not deserve as high a place in
your life as you have.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
I just don't understand why we invited her to this
event at all. You know, like the daughter was already
ready to go, daughter had the ticket, and then we
decided last minute to invite it.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
So she wanted to because you spend time.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, I say, banish this person from your life. All in,
I ay the eyes of it.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Well, I still feel extremely hurt, and people around me
have said that my cousin has shown she does not
wish me well. I also feel like such a pushover.
I should have asked her to leave. Instead, I have
just stopped contacting her. I don't want to confront her
because this was the final straw. I don't think I
will ever trust her again, and also I really don't
want the drama. I still feel bad, though, as if
I did something wrong. So am I the a hole

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for saying nothing and just dropping horror? Or am I
perhaps the a hole for not standing up for myself anything?
You're the a hole for yourself, yourself, respect yourself.

Speaker 6 (48:37):
We ended our friendship six years ago, but I'm still
mad about it.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I mean, maybe you should be.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Am I the ale for still being angry over a
friendship breakup from six years ago? A friendship lasted one month.
Some backstory. My boyfriend and I started dating around seven
years ago. Prior to this, he was vibing with this
girl let's.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Call her Katie.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
So Katie expressed feeling sam that she just wanted up
a relationship with him. Nothing romantic. By the way, this
comes from Tiasha eleven o eight on the r slash
Okay story Time severad It. At this time, my boyfriend
was seventeen. A few weeks later we started dating. Being immature,
I saw her tag him in a Facebook post and
called her out on it. She spore at me and
blocked me. A year later, she created a new Facebook

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and added me on it my boyfriend as well. I
was thrown off as I thought she hated me. I
had done some introspection and realized I was wrong for
calling her out. Realization of my boyfriend can have female friends.
That's not me, YadA, YadA. I messaged her and apologized.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
For my behavior.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
We exchanged numbers and got to talk. I found out
that she was actually quite chill and we got along nicely.
Katie comes from a wealthy family and didn't hesitate to
hide that fact. However, she had major family issues which
she would mention on surface level and not divulgent. One night,
she was telling me about how she likes to draw
attention to herself, so I was like, cool, You're an
attention seeker. She got pissed and blocked me. A year later,

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I find out she had messaged my boyfriend around like
one am Krat went down with her dad and a pair.
She always reached out to boyfriend When stuff like that happened,
she sends him an Instagram request. I messaged her because
I felt that that was not cool. I was still blocked.
But she messages my boyfriend being naive. We started talking again.
This time we're like a house on fire. However, I

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felt like me being in a good relationship and her
not being in any relationship made her jealous.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah, she was completely alone. No one would ever like her.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
I was in a really good relationship and she was alone,
So I thought she was kind of like.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I'm kind of better.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
I don't know if you know what that means, but
it's like me you.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
She would start comparing ourselves to each other. I did
not like that, especially since we come from different backgrounds.
Then one day she said that she found people who
kissed their s o or held hands in public, especially
in front of older people, cheap. We're Indians, so those
are her cultural views. I made my disagreement very apparent.
The next day she apologized and said those aren't even
her views. I was very confused about that, but continued

(50:54):
being friends with her because we got along well.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
No, no, she was very jealous of this boyfriend that
she rejected. As a reminder platonic, I did.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
Not have any other close friends, so you could say
I was kind of desperate at the time. She had
another best friend. I say another because she would also
call me her best friend. The thing is she would
trash talk this girl, let's call her Tatum. So Katie
would trash talk Tatum, but she would also status her,
calling her best friend and thing all the wonderful things
that Tatum is as a person. Meanwhile, she would be
sending me screenshots describing Tatum as a being a bad friend.

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Katie also had a crush on this guy, let's call
him Dexter. The relationship that Katie had with Dexter reminded
me of the one she had with my boyfriend. Oh,
I forgot a part after my boyfriend and I started
to date, she messaged him about how replaceable she felt
and how he didn't even fight for her. My conclusion
is that she still had feelings for him anyway. She
did the same thing with Dexter. He loved her, wanted

(51:50):
to pursue her, but she didn't want that.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
He moved on.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
She complained about it and how she could have dated
someone else, but she pined for him, YadA, YadA. The
breaking point this time was that she would constantly act
like she knew my boyfriend better than me, just because
she knew him first. I expressed that we stopped talking
for a while. She messaged out of the blue, ignoring
everything that happened. I told her I had already deleted
her number. We stopped talking on Facebook. Tatum and her

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would share memes and make fun of me. She shared
stuff that I told her in confidence, one being that
she would always be buying clothes and send me pictures
of it. I expressed that I feel bad because I
can't do the same because I'm still in college. So
a meme and a caption regarding that was shared. When
I played the same game, I got blocked. My fault
is that, if you remember, at the beginning, I said
that I was desperate for a friendship like this, I

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messaged her on Snapchat. We still had each other on there.
She was cold, rightfully, so I recognized my desperateness and
moved on. A year later, Yeah, everything happens a year later,
it was the vid. I was studying from home, too
much time on my hand, and I started thinking about
all of this and had messaged her via Instagram, spoke
truthfully about how our friendship had made me feel and

(52:56):
wished for her safety drink. She sent a message back
and I I was blocked. She started studying the same,
blocking everywhedow and will. Scrolling through Facebook, one day, we
saw that she had asked to buy secondhand textbooks on
a group that he was on.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
I told him to.

Speaker 6 (53:10):
Offer his to her. He had messaged, and the chat
was pretty chill. Prior to this, we had seen her
at a morning market. She hadn't confronted us about anything,
which was so strange anyway. He had asked if it
was in fact her, and she said yes, it was,
and that she had seen us too.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
She ended the conversation.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
Very abruptly, saying that regarding her and my past, she's weary.
He had replied that we're all grown and mature and
wished her luck with her studies. A month later was
my graduation. Katie and I have a mutual friend that
I had made through Instagram, and we didn't even know
until deep into the conversation he had put oh a
Facebook status. This didn't sit right with me, as I
didn't feel that he should be blocked because of me.

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A month later, I messaged her about this. She replied
and then blocked me. By this time I was completely
done with her and didn't give her a second thought.
This time it was different. We were twenty two and
twenty three. We were adults, and that was not a
very adult handling a situation. A few months later, which
was last year October, she messaged me and my boyfriend
and the mutual friend. She apologized to all of us,

(54:08):
saying how immature she was and that she forgives us.
I ask her if she's gonna block me now that
she's said what she wanted to.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
She says no.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
I told her how it made me feel that she
threw shade on me on Facebook. She said she swore
she doesn't remember doing that. It made me question if
she actually really did.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
Girl, what you need?

Speaker 6 (54:24):
It made you question you saw them. I made a
stupid mistake of following her on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
She followtop it.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
By the time I had made great friends on campus,
I was doing well. One of my friends had revealed
some stuff about her boyfriend to me, I'd come across
an appropriate video on TikTok, put it up on my
story and tagged her. It was something about people asking
for forgiveness, but you already told your best friend about it.
In the next five minutes, on Katie's story, she had
typed about being blamed for throwing shade online when the

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person blaming her is the one throwing shade, and that
God knows all and sees all. I reevaluated and could
see how my story could been perceived as it being
about her. I messed sure to clear the air, as
we were not very neutral and I did not want
things to go back to bad blood. She gasled me
and said that stuff she puts that are sometimes about
things that happened years ago, and she now remembers that
it's not about me.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
I stooped to her level and put a story.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
Up about not being gas lit, some quote with a
caption about being gas lit. She removed me as a
follower and unfollowed me.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Honestly, fair, dude, fair, but this is an abusive friendship, right.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
I hate it. I hate it. It just keeps going
back and forth.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
This is exhausting, by the way you know it's not
exhausting listening to full episodes and stories just like this.
Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts or I Heart Radio
and search of Pocus story time. But there's a little
bit left to the story.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
Do you have any final thoughts?

Speaker 3 (55:44):
I mean, my my biggest thought is my biggest my
big badge, your biggest thought, and you're smallest, right, my
smallest thought.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
Let's start there, all right.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
My smallest thought is I don't know if we should
be like having so much communication across different platforms with
one person. Use one platform to communicate to one person.
Don't like, don't spread your stuff across TikTok and Instagram
and I'm just just sent us one.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I don't want to have to go to every platform
to see what you're saying to me.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
Earlier this year, I made a friend through religion. She
added me on a group chat. It was nice and
very peaceful. Lo and bhold guess who joins and messages
on seid group chat Katie. I immediately leave the group
chat and I messaged my friend and told her that
Katie and I don't see to She tells me that
she and Katie had also had run ins.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
You removed Katie from the group chat. Dang, just like that,
that was really quick.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
I find myself now blocking and unblocking her and sometimes
looking up her profile. Am I the AOL for being
so angry with her?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I think?

Speaker 5 (56:43):
I think this anger is actually loved.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Yeah, and you're in.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Love with her.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
You're in love with her. Hey, it's Sam. We're going
to get back to these stories. But here's three minutes
of ads from our sponsors. My wife and I are
adopting our foster daughter, and my in laws are furious.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
Well, they can mind their own bees.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
My wife and I have two biological teenage sons, one
older and one younger than our foster daughter. We have
been fostering kids for many years, where the goal was
always to reunify the kids with their parents, which has
happened successfully.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Each time until now.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
By the way, this comes from you, Finn Pin, and
if you want to submit your own stories, go to
our slash Okay storytime. Stowbred it so. Two years ago
we took in our foster daughter, now mid teens. She'd
been through a lot and was labeled a troubled kid
and not adoptable. I won't go into details, But the
issue in the matter is that there are images of

(57:36):
her going around amongst a certain community from before we
took her in. We were informed by authorities about all
of this before, so it's not like this came a
surprise after we got to know her.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
It has not been easy. Our families have seen a struggle,
but almost everyone has been super supportive. The first five
to six months were the hardest. You didn't trust us,
who was angry at the world, rightfully so. And then
one random night I got up in the middle of
the night and unintentionally ended up scaring her rap list
and she had a full blown panic attack. He was
okay after a little while, but it was like something
clicked for her that night. It was like she realized

(58:10):
that we were on her side, and we watched her
change from this angry and side little girl the ambitious
young teenager video today. It started with her telling us
thank you for everything we did, small things like driving
her to practice, and she said it with a smile
on her face. It was so amazing to see her
feeling better and not so lonely anymore. From there, everything changed.
She made new friends and got a lot closer to
my sons, especially the older one. Her grades went from

(58:32):
failing multiple classes to getting straight a's, not because we
were nagging her, but because she wanted to. In terms
of the grades, each member of our household has developed
a good and strong relationship with her, and the love
we have for this girl cannot be put into words.
We've reached that cosmic connection. She still struggles with a
few things, which is totally fair after all she's been through,

(58:52):
but she's working on it and we are supporting her
in every way we can. Overall, she's doing amazing. He's
so strong and I'm very proud of her. We made
the decision to fight the system to change their verdict
from not adoptable to available for conditional adoption because we
want to commit to her for life. We want to
adopt her. Last month we got the call and they

(59:14):
changed their verdict and we sent in our papers that
they were already ready and things are looking very promising.
The thing is, we haven't told her yet. She knows
that she's now adoptable, but we haven't asked her if
she wants us to officially adopt her yet. My wife
and I have talked to our sons about it, and
they are fully on board. We talked to my parents,
our brothers and sisters and their spouses. All of them

(59:34):
have a good relationship with our daughter, and every single
one of them is so supportive of our decision and
willing to fully welcome our daughter into our family. Then
there is the wife's parents.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Mother in law.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Hasn't been awful, I guess, but maybe it's because I'm
comparing what she said to what father in law said.
We told them about our plan and asked them about
their opinion. Mother in law asked if we were sure
our daughter doesn't quite fit in. My wife and I
didn't understand at all, since our daughter has a very
similar personality as we and our sons do. But it
turns out she's concerned about the visual side of it all.

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She's clearly not our biological child, and people will start
asking questions. The thing is, my wife, myself, and our
sons are very tall.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Our daughter is not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
She's tiny compared to us and has a similar eye color,
but not the exact same. All five of us have
the same skin tone and colored and textured hair. Not
that I think it matters at all, but the stupidity
of it is unreal. Apart from height, she could pass
as our biological daughter. So I'm starting to think this
is a lame excuse or something else. I told her
that people would ask questions no matter what, because even

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if our daughter was a spinning image of my wife,
it's not like she suddenly gave birth to a teenage
or two years ago. And the answer to any question
is very simple. She's adopted. Yeah, toda. It's not like
it could ever become a secret now, So I don't
get it. Mother in law didn't say much after that,
but it was very clear she was not on board.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Father in law.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Hadn't said anything, but he didn't seem at all. I
asked for his opinion, and he just stared at us
for a minute, and then he said.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Don't do this to yourself and our family.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
It's safe to say. I was confused, but I had
no idea what to say. After a few more seconds
he went off. He started talking about their family name
and didn't want that to be ruined by a little
or and what would people think if they saw these
images floating around on the internet. I was stunned. My
wife couldn't find any words either, and started crying before

(01:01:27):
she just left. I didn't say a word while father
in lawtinish ranting, but a thousand thoughts went through my head.
Eventually he stopped talking and I still had trouble finding
any words to say. I just told him, you are sick,
and I left too. My wife is destroyed after hearing
what her father thinks about our daughter. We have no
idea how they know about these images, as we haven't

(01:01:48):
told anyone about it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
That's what I was gonna ask. I was gonna say,
how does he know? I would not want to know.
I would not want him around any No, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
One hundred percent certain my wife didn't tell them, as
their relationship is not that great. So oh ife was
closer to my mother than her own, so that wouldn't
make sense. We have tried to hide this from the
kids since this happened, but my older son since something
was very wrong and asked about it. I told him
our conversation with the in laws about adopting our daughter
didn't go very well and they weren't supportive. You wanted

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to know why. I told him I couldn't tell him
that it was serious, and promised to talk to him
about it in a few years when he's an adults,
and I assured him that our daughter didn't do anything wrong,
our plans haven't changed, and that it's father in law
who is being unreasonable. My son told me that our
daughter told him a few months ago that you didn't
think the in laws liked her very much, especially father

(01:02:39):
in law. This happened two days ago and we haven't
spoken to them since. I'm not sure I even want
to try to be honest. For me, this is going
to be no contact worthy. I want nothing to do
with him. I for shore after those things.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
No contact, I think you cannot come.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
This isn't a thing that you can talk about, you know,
this isn't a thing that you can communicate and find
some resolution. He made disgusting comments about a child and
has shown that he is not worthy of being around
you or definitely not your daughter.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
My wife is in pieces and has mentioned that she
doesn't want them in her life after this. This has
tainted our adoption experience for sure. I'm afraid though, that
if we piss off father in law even more, that
he will start talking to her other family about these images.
I do realize he will look like a pig in
everyone's eyes, but I would like to spare our daughter
from everyone knowing about what's out there. I usually talk

(01:03:33):
to my mother about heavy stuff in life, but I
cannot talk to her about this without feeling like I'm
exposing my daughter by telling my mother more than I
want to for my daughter's sake, Internet strangers, I have
no idea what to do from here. How do I
go about the situation with father in law without creating
more mess and absolutely necessary for my daughter?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
There isn't at it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
But I feel like, regardless of what the father in
law will do, if you cut him out, he's going
to do more harm by having him in. So I
don't know if you can control what he does, but
I still I think keep him far from your family
and far from your daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
I think it's just like you don't necessarily have to
have a conversation with him where you're like, yo, I'm
never going to see you, and maybe that you know,
pisses him off more.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
You can just stop talking.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Yeah, I just stop talking, just like don't I would go.
I would go very low contact and never bring your
daughter around him. Edit to add, just to be very clear,
there's no doubt in our minds that we still want
to ask our daughters for permission to adopt her. A
relationship with our daughter will not change no matter what
father in law does or does not do. I realized
from the first couple of comments that it became unclear

(01:04:39):
after the father and incident. Sorry about that. By the way,
you should never be sorry about listening to the full
episodes of this podcast. Wherever you get your podcasts, Just
go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app
and search. Okay, storytime, there's another relevant updates four hours later. Actually,
so I'm glad to see I'm not the only one
possibly hopefully reading two much into this. I think you

(01:05:01):
have verified I'm not crazy. Wife and I had a
brief talk after I posted, and decided to talk to
her brothers and sisters first about father and last comments.
It'll be a hard conversation, but it needs to happen
before I could get to it. My wife told me
she wants to report the situation with her father knowing
about the images of our daughter. Right now, we don't
know what that looks like, but it has simply not

(01:05:21):
been possible for him to gain access to this knowledge legally.
There is a culprit for sure, and we will leave
that to authorities for now. Thank you for giving me
a reality check and thank you. We're encouragement. We need
it right now. And that is where that story ends.

Speaker 6 (01:05:37):
My religious neighbors are extremely intrusive. I decided to stand
up for myself. Stand up Hello, I twenty eight female
to mail. Have a couple of neighbors that live on
the other side of my duplex. They were fine for
the most part, aside from the occasional proselytizing, but over
the last five months they've almost become insufferable. By the way,

(01:05:58):
this comes from Loud Throwaway and if you want to
make your own story, go to our slash okay storytime
separate it. The wife is always knocking on my door.
I made the mistake of letting her in once and
we had coffee until she started talking about judgment. After
a few minutes of that, I asked her to leave,
and she prayed over me for like thirty seconds while
I stood there tapping my foot waiting for her.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
To shut up. The husband is more malicious.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
I have a doormat that says everyone's welcome here with
a little pride flag along the top and bottom, and
once I came home to find him rolling it up.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
When I asked what he was doing, he said that
it was on side light and he was doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I were at a fiber.

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
I don't know how they found out I was trans
I'd been on tea for like twelve years and look
indistinguishable from a SIS guy except for downstairs. But I
left for work one morning to find a pamphlet on
the dangers of HRT on my effing porch. Well, you
know what's also dangerous hatred?

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Well maybe at least they're being educated on what the
fans experience it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
You know, it's like a really abformative packet. It's like,
just make sure that you're eating. Look, they only read
the front page to the dangers. I ripped it up
and put it back on theirs. Part of me wanted
to light it on fire, but that could come with
criminal consequences. Last week was the last draw. We share
a bedroom wall, and for the past week they've been

(01:07:14):
having a really really Christian spicy sleep almost every night.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
God?

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
What I mean by that is that I'm kept awake
every night by the wife screaming her head off and
saying crap like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Say it with God's light with your seed, effing nauseating.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Okay, so literally, oh my God, literally yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Christian filled me up with guys light day.

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
The only outside is that it usually only lasts for
five minutes. I left them a note asking them to
keep it down, and I came home to it ripped
up on my porch half the time.

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
I don't think they're even effing. I think they're just
yelling through.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
The wall at me. Here's where my hypothetical comes in.
I have a boyfriend, Jesse thirty mail. We don't live together,
and we can get pretty loud during spicy sleep as
He's very very good at it and I'm very lucky.
Usually we have it at his house out of respect
for my neighbors, but I've lost this respect entirely. Would
I be the ale if I invited my boyfriend over

(01:08:15):
to stay the night and we had really loud, raunchy,
spicy sleep to piss off the neighbors. I asked him,
and he thought it was hilarious and agreed to do it.
But I still feel like a bit of a clown.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
PS.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
I don't have issues with Christians in general. I have
an issue with Christians who act like this and still
claim to be Christian.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
You know, lean ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:08:34):
So, as I mentioned last time, Jesse was on board.
He came over around sixth the day of a posting,
and was going to stay the night. We watched a
movie and got each other in the mood before retiring
up to my bedroom at a.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Bu ten pm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
You were retiring?

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Yeah, now you might be thinking you were repeat gett
You said it didn't go well? Was Jesse bad in bed?
Was he so lackluster that you couldn't even pretend that
it felt good?

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
Are you too breaking up forever? As is the norm
with relationships on Reddit? No, and also hold on a
dang minute. I won't go into too much detail, but
it lasted for an hour and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
A half an hour and a half half.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
We both got spicy hobbies that would probably un alive
a nun, and we made sure they heard on the
other side of the wall what sounded like an argument,
but no knocking or yelling or anything like that. Eventually
we finished, and it was so nice not hearing anything
on the other side that I suggested that Jesse stay
over for a few more days.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Oh so the party's still going party. Of course you
get this story by though.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
Someone asked me and DMS what my goal was for
annoying them. This was not to annoy them. It was
to make it so they'd never be able to look
Jesse or me in the eyes again. I wanted them
to avoid me at all costs. In the morning, I
went out to grab the mail and the wife was
out there on the porch waiting for me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
He was bleeding, bleating, like.

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
Desperately trying to put her hands on me to pray.
I kept knocking.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
She inspired, He's like, damn, it can last more than
five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Please tell me there we all secrets.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
I kept knocking away and told her not to touch
me and to leave me alone. She kept crying after
me and knocking on my door to get me to
come out or she'd get her husband.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
I went back inside and told Jesse we'd have to
be even louder tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Well we were, and this time, I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Think this is your kink. At this point, I think so,
I think you've unlocked a new thing.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
We heard knocking and shouting didn't stop, though it was
equally as good, if a bit shorter. When we finished,
everything was quiet. Next afternoon, I went off to a
friend's birthday party while Jesse did some work from home.
When I was there, I got a terrified call from him.
He said, first off that he was safe. I took
Jesse's car to the party since he was blocking me in,
and when the husband saw that my car was the
only one there, he assumed I was home alone. He then,

(01:10:39):
according to Jesse, yelled at me to come outside. Jesse
ignored him as I asked him to do, but then
came the bank. I've been getting it light and story
is so far to not freak myself out again, but
I can't keep it up here. The crazy effort tried
to punt down my door and was screaming about.

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
How he's going to make come in and make me
pay for what I did to his wife.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Yeah, I dude. The wife is now so sad about
her icy sleep life. Only last five minutes. She's like,
oh my god, they're still going.

Speaker 5 (01:11:06):
Yeah. She's like, people can do this. I want a divorce,
and he's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Like, yeah, I can.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
Thank god, it was a locked with heavy lock. Jesse
immediately called the cops, good and they arrested the husband.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Jesse is fine. I am fine.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
I can't say much about the case or charges since
I'll be testifying soon. I'm currently staying with Jesse at
his house and probably will not go back to my
old place except him about Jesse makes very good money
and is willing to set me up for a while.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Ruh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Not only is he good in bed, but he makes
that cash.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
Look at this man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
You got, you got someone going you.

Speaker 6 (01:11:38):
Want, but you know you can win to if you
listen to full episodes of stories just like this.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio and search
up storytime. But there's a little bit left to the story.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Any final thought, final thoughts. I think this is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
This is hilarious, and I really shouldn't hurt anyone, but
you know I wouldn't. I wouldn't unknown necessarily make your
neighbor mad if you can, because stuff like that, because
they're dangerous.

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
I think you have to be careful about who you
are making mad.

Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
Yeah, sometimes you have people who are very religiously religious.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
As you know, it's not you know, it's definitely not
your problem and it's not your fault, but it is
it is your problem. Actually, because now they're coming and
like banging down doors and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
So I think it's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
I think if you want the least drama filled life,
you don't have a spicy sleep war. But do you
want a kick ass, kick butt story spicy sleep war.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
All this has been effing terrifying in a whirlwind, and
honestly just want to sleep for a long, long, long time.
It makes me not want to go out in public
anymore after knowing that there are people like this out there.
Jesse's understandably shaken, and I feel scared as crap whenever
I open the door to go outside, even though I
know he's being held. I'm going to get a restraining
order when this is all over, bothe this update suffices,
and if it doesn't, too bad, because I'm not trying

(01:12:52):
this crap again. I have learned my lesson, do not
antagonize crazies. Do not no matter how much they make.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Say right, Okay, I'm glad we learned that lesson that story.
I'm glad we learned that lesson. Don't antagonize crazy. Even
though it's fun and maybe funny and makes a great story,
it'll make your life more filled with drama. We don't
necessarily want that we want peaceful lives, well, a little
bit of drama once a while, but that's the end
of that story.

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