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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is intergalactic John, This is Alien Sam on the
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before we get to these interstellar stories.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I think my girlfriend is a stalker stalker I hardly
know her. Say, probably trigger warding for stalking, yeah, and
also cly trigger warning for stalking, a lot of trigger
warnings for stockings. I'm asking this to see if I'm
the one who's completely lost my mind here. My twenty
eight male girlfriend twenty five female has this dream journal.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
She's always writing it. I thought it was cute, you know,
expressing her inner world and all that. She claims it
can help her understand her subconscious better, which made sense
to me. But homie just found out what journaling is like.
It's actually kind of cool. By the way, this story
comes from ames to her name, and if you want
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to submit her own stories, go to the r slash
Okay Storytime subbured it. So anyway, last night she accidentally
left it open at her bedside table.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Italics because it feels like this is from the journal.
It's an excerpt.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Ooh, I wasn't trying to snoop, but a page was
open and a phrase caught my eye. Ten seventeen am.
He got coffee with two sugars, just like I knew
he would. My stomach dropped. Oh, I glanced at another entry.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Why as she timing all of these?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Three forty five pm? Called his mom? Sounded a little stressed.
Must remember to bring up the job thing later. This
wasn't a dream journal. It was a play by play
of my day. Every single entry was about me, my movements,
my conversations, even one she wasn't present for, Oh, my habits.
It was incredibly long and detailed, almost like a surveillance log.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Dude, dude, she's a spy.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
She's not a spy. She's not a stalker. She's having
prophetic visions in her dreams.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, she was like at three point one, he's going
to the store, and You're like, how does she know
that she's stalking me?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
No, she saw it, or she's a time traveler, dang it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And she's like has to remember all of.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
The Yeah, this is just back to the future where
Doc Brown's like.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, what are the clocks? It's eight o'clock. Yeah, and
behind there's so many different explanations. O pee, let's not
jump to the most obvious.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I have not confronted her yet because I'm genuinely trying
to find out if this is some bizarre form of
affection I'm not understanding, or if I should be calling
my therapist and maybe looking into changing my locks. Am
I overreacting by feeling deeply, deeply creeped out? Is this
a normal girlfriend thing I'm just too dense to grasp
or is this a massive red flag waving in my face?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think it's really funny that he's like, is.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
This just normal?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Does everyone's girlfriends take detailed notes of their day to day?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Buddy? I think I think your gut has the answer
for that.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Also, like Amanda Foxy's comment of it's Sophia amplified, which
took me a second, but then I realized you were
talking about my prophetic dreams.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Right there we go?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, I was like.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I was also like, wait, what, you're right, because yours
my visions.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm gonna start doing this every time I'm doing the
psych thing.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Gene, I need you, Gene, let me in. We're referencing
X men for everyone who might be confused. Liked Sophia.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I've seen how do You You can't be confused by that?
I've seen X Men, Days of Future Past.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Good movie.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I really like her and I haven't had any major
issues with our relationship. She's like the sweetest person ever
and hasn't shown any signs of being crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
But now I'm a little scared for my safety. What
do I do? I don't we have an update.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I need to see these excerpts, you know. I need
to know what she's saying. I need to know where
you're going.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's like, it really does. I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It depends on like the context of Like if she's saying,
like he got coffee, he had a conversation, I remember
to bring that up later, Like that's a little concerning.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
But if she's like I yearned to know what his
bones feel like inside my body.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's it's a lot of concerning.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That feels like you want to wear me like a
piece of clothing.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
There are levels, there are levels to the crazy. It
could just be she is maybe a little neurodivergent, and
it's like, I don't know how to bring up conversation stuff.
So I will learn as much as I can about
them and then bring that up.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I gotta say, though, no matter what, stalking is a
red flag. No, no, I really to be.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Clear, probably being got by following you around.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, to be clear, still a red flag. I'm just saying.
The severity ranges from she just doesn't know what to
say and needs conversation topics and is doing it in
a really creepy way. Right, So he says, love bombing
also possible, or she's maybe gonna try and hurt you,
or we should run away.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, let's get into this update. So I followed the
advice so of one user woe Bred thirty five, which
suggested that I ask her what she's writing about while
she's in the middle of writing, like you I man,
and she's like, well, I overheard you talking earlier today
while you were at, you know, in line at the
grocery store.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Now he's like, what are you writing about? And she's like,
three twenty five? My boyfriend just asked me what I'm
writing about. He's sitting in the chair, mmmm.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Do and she just like looks at him expectantly.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Like continue, and he's like, are you as.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
He then asked me if a court reporter, she's got
a stynomyos and she's doing shorthand.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I was on the couch reading a book when I
noticed her writing in her journal from the other couch.
I asked her what she was writing about and why
she was writing in her dream journal when she hadn't
even gone to sleep yet. You ruin my dream journal.
She told me that she doesn't always use it for
dreams and sometimes uses it as a regular diary. I
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didn't feel like lying, so I just admitted that I
had glanced at it earlier and noticed she was logging
my daily activities. Her face got about as red as
a tomato, and she got real quiet for a minute.
She said that she knows how bad it looks, and
that her journal is meant to be a relationship sink journal,
as she called it. She says that humans rarely scratch
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the surface of truly understanding each other, even when they're
in relationships. She says her goal is to achieve a
deep and intuitive connection with me. Basically, she wants to
instinctively know my moods and behaviors so she can be
the best partner possible, which explains the entry about me
putting two sugars in my coffee. Which I don't even
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think I paid attention to how many sugars I.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Put in my coffee.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That one, if it wasn't connected to all like the
other stuff, is kind of cute, I think. I think
it's I I not this in connection to this story
sounds weird, but I write notes about my friends and saying,
you know, like things that they like, things that they
you know, right, facts about them.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So her friendship sink journal, friendship sink journal.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
While I do kind of agree with your notion that
it's like, yeah, it's like a lot of people never
even really get to know each other, Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
The way that you.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Do that, yeah, is by being talking to them to
be clear the relationship and talking.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I was only talking about the part about writing down
to sugar. No.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
No, no, she's not condoning an absolute this.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I think that she's going about this the like in
a really bad way. Like if you want to intuitively
know someone that takes time, that takes hours spent together,
like I feel, I think Sam and I have a
very intuitive, intuitive relationship.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeap.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Just the other day he asked me where something was
and I went, it's in the thing. And I was
sitting next to someone I remember who it was, and
they were like, the thing that doesn't you didn't tell
where it was? And Sam was like okay and immediately
went to where I was sporting at. So it is.
It's time. It's not trying to hack the system.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Right, There's not like a secret algorith of them you
can make with all this information. It's gonna like make
your connection deep. You gotta get deep, don't. She thinks
that this will lead to us having an unbreakable bond.
It sounds absolutely insane, but when she was explaining it,
some of it made sense. I'm not gonna lie. She
made it out to sound like the sweetest thing ever.
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But if she truly wanted us to be in sync,
why didn't she ask me to also track her movements?
I mean, I really thought that was gonna be Why
didn't she ask me what my favorite breakfast is? Like
what kind of movies I like?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Like?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Who I idolized growing up? Like this is not what
are we doing?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
If a boyfriend snuggled in for a shoulder I can't
read in for a shoulder nap and said he's trying
to intuitively dream together so y'all can be in each
other's head even when you're apart. Honestly, that sounds kind
of cute.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
See you're trying to make a joke, but I could tell.
I was like, that's actually gonna get hurt. Really good,
it's actually gonna get hurt. A snuggle so we can
dream together.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
He'd be like, I'm gonna marry that guy if some
guy like tried to nap on your shoulder and was like,
I'm like, you can dream the same dream now since
our heads are next to.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Each other, Like, canna say that to me?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
That cry? No, she's gonna cry someone that.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, sorry, let's get back to it.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
That's wild. Look how red I am. Oh my god, Sophia,
that's not how it works. But oh, oh my god,
that might be.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
That might be one of the funniest things I think
has ever happened on the show.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
This guy's being like, why didn't my girlfriend ask me
to stalk her?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
If she was really serious about this, she would have
said I should be stalking her.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
How does this strengthen our connection?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
If she knows me to this extreme of an extent
when I don't know her to that extent. Part of
me almost wishes that she just said she would stalking me.
But this explanation almost leaves me feeling more confused. I'm torn,
is this a good explanation or is this just her
justifying obsessive and crazy behavior.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I think that it could be.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Buddy, is this your first I feel like this is
another first relationship situation.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
It's like, is she a little bit weird because it's.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Like I can't tell uh.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I agree with her philosophically, where it's like, yeah, a
lot of people can go through like years together and
not even know each other.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, but this is not like the recipe to getting
to like a deep connection with someone at all.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think the thing is that you need to ask
her because if she was just taking notes about things
that she's been at, if she was like I noticed
that when we were out together he put his fork
on the left side of his plate, or I noticed
that he like.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Skips, you know, on whimsical whimsical.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
If it was like that, like things she noticed when
they were together, I think that would be fine. It
would be you know, maybe I would be a little
bit confused why she was noticing so much, but it
wouldn't be crazy. I think the fact that she is
apparently like going to places without his knowledge and like
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getting information that she shouldn't know. That's the red flag here,
and I would have a conversation about those boundaries of saying,
how do you know this information? Because it's making me
a little uncomfortable that you're potentially literally stalking man.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
We could maybe want the same thing. Yeah, I think
we should just go about it.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
A different way.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Update number two. First off, I want to clarify a
few things. Based on the comments from my last post.
It was overwhelming trying to respond to everyone. My girlfriend
isn't on the autism spectrum. She does not display many
related traits. Also, I don't work in a field with
sensitive information, so this isn't a case of work espionage.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That shit. You think maybe you're in the Truman Show
and she's taking notes.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Have you checked out if the moon is have you
checked Some of you mentioned possible mental health issues, which
she's never brought up, but after what I found this morning,
I find it highly unlikely she isn't struggling with something.
So we had a discussion about the relationship sink journals
last night after my last update. She was very forthcoming
and I genuinely believed she was coming from a sincere place.
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I told her she didn't have to study my every
move to strengthen our bond, and that we could learn
about each other through shared activities. She seemed satisfied with
that and agreed to stop the journals since they made
me uncomfortable. She even offered to let me read the
whole journal, which I did. Most of the entries were
just notes on my likes and dislikes, but one entry
really stood out. She was tracking my Facebook activity log.
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For those wondering how she knew about conversations I wasn't
present for. We sometimes share my laptop, and I'd forgotten
I was logged into Facebook on it, and that made
me feel uneasy.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
See, now this is a breach of trust. This is
no longer she's just hyper observe about the interactions that
they have. This is now she's reading your messages, which
is not okay. That's what it sounds like. It sounds
like she's locked into your er. She went onto your
Facebook and looks for your message.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's funny because I think of these as the exact
same thing. But it's just that, I mean, if anything,
I think the actually following you around in the real
world and like tagging like weird notes on you, maybe
without you knowing.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No, oh, I was saying. I was saying, I thought
that the other things. I don't know if she's like
followed him around in the real world. It sounds like
she when they're together and he's aware of her presence,
she takes a lot of notes about things. But it
sounds like, yeah, that's I think that's what he's saying.
And then he said that the conversations that she wasn't
there for, Oh, that's because she's reading his messages, which
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is a total violation, which you guys know what I
think about that about reading messages not okay, But it
doesn't even sound like she's doing it because she thinks
he's cheating. It's it's like she doesn't even have a
good reason.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, it's just off putting. Yeah, she's off putting. And
I'm not at ease. No, You're like, you're gonna go
to the bathroom. She's gonna be like, stand on the
scale that you lost exactly point.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Six's taking notes about your height and your weight.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I have an entire sub section based on your bowel movement.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, She's like, heart rate, please put this on. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, I may have hacked your little no free sponsors, but.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, She's like, I'm gonna need to take some of
your blunt today. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Your biometrics are an absolute must since I primarily work
from home. After she left this morning, I decided to
check the garage. I remembered seeing some notebooks in a
box out there. What I discovered was horrifying.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
There wasn't just one relationship sink journal, but five of them,
completely filled with entries dating back a year before we
even started dating.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, oh yeah, bye, bye bye, out of there. Out,
let's go a year before you started dating.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh, I actually am running away. I'm ghosting this person.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm leaving immediately.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Wait, no, don't. You can't ghost No, because she'll finally
seeing you. It'll make it worse.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You have to have a conversation. Okay, I'm leaving you.
This is totally not okay.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You go.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Everything that I thought that we were is a lie,
and i've been. You have reduced me, in my mind
to nothing more than an experiment that you have been
manipulating variables in and for that reason, sharks I'm out.
We had known each other through friends before dating, so
I wasn't a complete stranger. But some of these entries
are for before we were even friendly. We had just
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had minor cordial encounters. She's been tracking my Facebook for
a long time. In one journal, there was essentially a
diagram cross referencing my likes, comments, friends lists, and family members,
seemingly to determine who I was closest to.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
This is terrifying. This is truly so scary girl.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Why don't you use all this mental energy.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
To make some money. Think of the two pounds she's
plot Opie's life to hardest organs. I hope not. I
hope not. This one from like oh, it could have
been a little bit cute to like get out of there, truly.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
There was also an entry about my ex girlfriend, where
she was taking notes from social media to speculate about
why we broke up. Her goal was to prevent herself
from making the same mistake as my ex. Even more disturbingly,
she had notes about my browser history, specifically mentioning that
she'd watched some adult videos from my history to understand how.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
To please me better. Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Totally insane because if she wanted to know him better.
If that was her goal, then you ask You ask
these questions to your partner. You engage, you spend time
with them, you learn about them. You don't cheat by
freaking obsessively looking them up.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Dude. Op, he's girlfriend doesn't even sleep. Yeah, Obi goes
to sleep and then his girlfriend is just right here.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah. He sleeps for exactly six hours and three minutes.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Two thirty seven in the morning. I think this was
the exact moment he went into rem sleep.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He snored for about ten ten minute intervals.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
His leg twitched and it was the perfect twitch.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Like this is this is terrifying.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Everything is terrifying, and I want to be No.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So somebody should make this a horror movie. Honestly, that
is this is this is get out, but like one person.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
There's no headlines where it's like someone's dating someone, but
really they just want to be that person. I can't
remember what well, that's that's get out. No, but it's
like a date specifically within a dating just also so happened.
Sorry in hyper analyzing mode, Okayti, but all I can
think now is invisible man, Yeah, which is great And
if you've never seen that trauma.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah, never ever, ever, ever watched The Invisible Man.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, I've seen the trailer for it.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
She also has entries analyzing my reactions to certain things,
my body language, and other details to understand my subconscious motivations.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Maybe she works for an AI company. Maybe she is
an age.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I felt really bad yesterday when some comments suggested I
was a bad boyfriend for not appreciating how thoughtful she was.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Those were her She found your reddit. She found your reddit,
and she's been commenting. She's like, that was really thoughtful.
You should appreciate your girlfriend. You should appreciate me, I
mean your girlfriend. Mark.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
There's no way she doesn't know about this Reddit post.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
She does.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
There's no way she doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
She's got cameras, which is why I tried to be
so understanding last night. But now I am genuinely terrified,
and I am contemplating leaving the house before she comes back.
And there's a third update, and like literally, like just
a little bit of actual advice, I would not ghost her.
I would try to give her some semblance of closure,
because with the ghosting, I think will make her like
literally like snap or something.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, in her whole life forever and ever and ever.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I honestly think I think tells get someone there with you,
like some sort of third party there with you when
you break up with her, for safety, because she seems unstable.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Definitely have Yeah, somebody, do not be alone. Update number three.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
After my last post where I discovered the extent of
the additional relationship sink journals, I decided the best option
was to stay home without telling her about my discovery. Luckily,
she invited one of her friends over, so I didn't
have to spend a lot of time with her before
going to bed while she was busy with her friend.
I ended up taking the advice of Electronic News, a
user own Reddit who suggested eye contact an ex of
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hers and ask if she ever did anything like that
with him? You know, a very detail I think we
glossed over here. She was like extremely forthcoming with this. Yeah,
I almost think she might not think this is an issue. No,
I don't think she does.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I think that she is so set in her like
I don't know, it's so set in her mind that
she's doing this to sync more with them. She's like, no, no,
like the intengents are good that she does and think
that any of the you know ways that she got
went about it are intane, not.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Looking at the action, just looking at the intent.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, the action is like the ends justifyed the session.
The action is actual obsession, like scary obsession.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I only knew of one X, but I remembered that
she described him as psycho and asked me to block
him on Facebook because she was worried he might pester me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Ah, yeah, you should go talk to that guy.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, it sounds like that the first guy. You should
sprint at full speed too.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I decided to unblock him and then send him a
message asking if we could talk on a voice call.
We were eventually able to connect on the phone while
she was visiting with her friend. He actually sounded like
a very normal guy. When I spoke with him, I
told him why I was calling. He got quiet when
I mentioned my girlfriend's name, Ben said, what has she
done now? I ended up telling him the whole story,
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and afterwards I heard him laughing on the other end
of the phone. It wasn't a laugh like he thought
it was funny. It was more like a laugh of
disbelief this had happened again.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
He then told me he had a similar experience with her,
but she never journaled around him and they didn't live
together for him to find any journals, so the journal
thing was new just for me, apparently, But he did
recall her knowing things that she shouldn't know sometimes. He
also mentioned that things in his apartment would go missing
and then suddenly reappear, when he would swear that he
never touched them. At the time, he was more concerned
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about a ghost or something than his girlfriend, But he
said he started to feel suffocated by her after a
while and chose to break things off with her after that.
That's when the story started to take a turn. Apparently,
a week after they broke up, she showed up at
his house and told him that she's pregnant. WHOA, I
don't believe her, Sophia doesn't believe women.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I don't believe that woman.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
No, no, no, I don't believe that one.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I don't believe that specific woman.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
He said.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
He decided to give her a second chance, but after
a few weeks he noticed that one of her friends
had posted a snapchat of her at a bar drinking
after work. That's when he can fronted her and she
admitted that she had faked the pregnancy to get him
back crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That's when he.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Broke things off with her and told her to never
contact him again. He said he didn't hear from her
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Why do they have to search Sophia.
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Oh just okay, story times.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'm just the name of our show. It's just us,
so we have a little bit of story left here.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Wow. I honestly think someone earlier said that you could
potentially get a restraining order because you have the proof
of the journals, and I think that's a good idea.
I think you have proof that she's done this before
to someone else, man, you have proof that she's currently
doing it to you. I would break up with her.
I would break up with her with someone there. Change
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your locks, see if you can, you know, get to
a safe place, because it seems like you guys live together,
so make sure you have a safe place that she
doesn't know about. Uh, she'll probably find out, but make
sure she starts off not knowing yeah, and then yeah,
begin the process of separating. And also, now you know
that she'll use the pregnancy thing. So if she says
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to you after you break out with her, yeah, I'm pregnant,
you have to stay with me, you know that that's
a lie.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I would look into the cybersecurity Yeah protocols.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Amy Lady's change password. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
He said that months later he had found a camera
in his smoke detector when he was changing.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
The batteries for it.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
He said he knew it was her, but couldn't prove it.
I told him about her telling me to block him,
and he said she must have made me do that
because she knew that he would warn me if he
found out she had a boyfriend. I'm going to call
movers to arrange for them to come pick up my
stuff while she is at work. I'm not even going
to tell her. I don't think I'm going to be
able to find movers until next week, though, So my
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plan is to just try to play things off over
the next few days.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And that is the end of that story. And I
think I got it amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Definitely maybe ghost her trying to just disappear off the
face of the earth and that's that.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, I think you should block. I mean I think
you should talk to her and then break up with
her personally. But again I've already said with the person
there that you trust, then make sure you have an
exit plan since you live together, Yes, start looking into
new apartments if you can, just us see if you
can break your lease, anything that gets you away from her,
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especially because of the whole camera stuff, like there's probably
cameras in your apartment.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Honestly, yeah, I would do like the sweep, do the
uh yeah.
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But that's the end of that story. So we're gonna
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First, I think my girlfriend's parents planted something in my
bag and now I want out.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
They just want you, guys to grow.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I am twenty two female and my girlfriend is twenty
one female. We have been in a same gender relationship
for two and a half years, and we are both
very healthy individuals sick. My girlfriend comes from a wealthy
family and often goes on luxurious international vacations with them.
The last two times they've traveled abroad. I stayed at
their place to dog sit. Her family is incredible and
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treats me like one of their own, doing so much
for me. Meanwhile, I come from a poor background and
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Speaker 3 (25:36):
So.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I just graduated college in May and will start my
job in July. I work tirelessly to land this job
without annie family connections, paying my own way through college
while working to cover rent and tuition. Here's where it
gets tricky. I can't help but feel envious of her life.
She never has to worry about money and can do
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whatever she wants whenever she wants. She's amazing, not stuck
up at all, and fully aware of her privilege. She
often pays for us when we get out. Yet I
can't shake this jealousy about her ability to float through
life effortlessly while I have to grind and start my
adult life immediately after college. Because it's not about anything
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she does, I don't know how to bring it up
to her to make matters more complicated. She will be
studying abroad in Scotland this year, and if I had
the same opportunity, I would take it in a heartbeat,
But I just don't have that privilege. Our relationship is secure.
We are able to communicate openly about any issues that
are eyes besides this one lol. She loves me for
who I am and never makes me feel obligated to
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buy lavish things for her. When she pays for things,
she does so out of kindness and never makes me
feel belittled. She understands my financial situation and never judges
me for it. Her family is newly wealthy. Her dad
grew up poor and made a name for himself as
an MD. They just hit Bring It in a million
in this year and are continuing to expand.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
They have never asked me to join their family vacations,
but her parents have paid for things related to my
college experience and are currently helping me furnish my first apartment.
Her dad also gives me a lot of valuable financial advice,
which I am very grateful for. How do I cope
with these feelings of jealousy and frustration? And there is
an update folks, But it's tricky, I think to be
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around people who have different access to different things than you,
and I don't want to like it is normal to
have those feelings of jealousy. However, it isn't your girlfriend's fault,
so it is something that you need to deal with.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, I mean, if you want to say it's your
girlfriend's fault, it's like, well, just she exists.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
She exists, and she has different opportunities than you do,
and that's just how it is.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
We have to be masters of our own emotions, in
our own feelings.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, it to take some level of personal accountability for that,
m M. And then that actually frees you because then
once you take full responsibility for all your feelings and
even if guys, not all of your feelings are you
just going to come from you, Some of your feelings
are like coming from outside stuff. Yeah, but if you
just take all the responsibility for it, you were down
free because they're yours.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I don't even know if I would necessarily say, like talk,
tell her about this. I don't know. I'm kind of
on the fence on this because it's kind.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Of happened to me.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But I mean, not like this, but yeah, I had
to bring that up to an X of mine where
it's like we were both actors and she booked something
and I got really really jealous about it, and I
was like, I honestly wanted to be happy for you there,
but I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I was more like mad than it wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, I wanted to just put that out there because
I don't want to feel that way.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I think that would be a good way to say it,
because she clearly isn't doing anything too, you know, like
if there was something specific, like if she was flaunting
it and always like paying for things and giving all
these expensive gifts and then expecting you also to get
like that would be something to bring up. But I
feel or to address and fix. But here maybe it's
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just saying I add these feelings, not your faults. I'm
working on them. That might be the best move. But yeah,
it's it's not her fault. So it's definitely just like
a first step is understanding that those feelings are from you.
They're coming from you, not from any other you know,
thing that she's doing. So yeah, it's normal.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Don't beat yourself up too hard either, because you're not
your feelings and you're not your thoughts like you know,
yeah they're not.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
This is also happy, you know, this has happened to
me where I've I've had you know, been jealous of
a friend for whatever reason, and then you just have
to be like, okay, that would let's put a stopper
on that, because they're not doing anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Get the flamethrower and go and insiderate it.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
But there is an update. My girlfriend with female twenty
four is getting her dog and her parents financially support
her while she's in school. The issue is they use
the support to control every aspect of her life. Oh whoa,
this story took a turn where she can live, how
much time she can spend with me, Female twenty four,
and even the places she's allowed to go over time.
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Though a lot of reflection and conversations with me, she
realized this isn't normal and plans to fully distance herself
once she secures a stable job that can help pay
for her degree. We've been together for three years. Wasn't
it two years before we've jumped a year?
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Maybe you know, sometimes people change a little piece of
information for anonymity or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And as time has passed, her parents have started trying
to control aspects of my life as well. I grew
up poor and have always financially supported myself. I used
to drive a Beater car that finally gave out, and
for Christmas, her parents gifted me one of their cars.
While I was incredibly grateful, I always felt like there
were strings attached. For instance, the car isn't registered in
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my name, which created issues when trying to renew the registration.
It also has an app that allows remote access starting
the car, tracking its location, etc. Yikes, what I wouldn't
want that. No, no, no. I never asked for access
because I knew they were using it to keep tabs
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on me. Tikes. I even got a text from my
girlfriend's dad once letting me know I had left the
car door unlocked, confirming to me that they definitely monitor.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I'm like, is this your car? My car? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Is this your car my car? That's the question you
need to ask. And if they say this is our car,
you go, all right, take it back, take it back? Yeah,
take you back to take it back. I thought that
was a gift. I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Recently, I applied for a job in the city where
my girlfriend and her parents live. Since my girlfriend is
currently abroad for her doctorate, she wasn't home when I
stayed with her parents for my first round of interviews.
While I was there, they kept pushing the idea of
me living with them to save money to buy a house.
I was polite and considered it in conversation, but I
knew that wasn't something I wanted. During my visit, my
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girlfriend's friends invited me to go out to a few
bars one night, but her mom had an issue with
me being out late, so I ended up not going.
What was your girlfriend going out?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
This is strange. There's way too much power. Yeah, dynamic,
very hikey, very ikey. It's strange.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Now here's where I need perspective. I flew home that
Sunday with just to carry on bag. I did an
unpack right away, and when I finally did laundry on Tuesday,
I found a rusty pocket knife in my load of clothes.
I was completely confused because a pocket knife is not
something I own or have seen before. I sent a
picture to my girlfriend to see if it might belong
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to her brother and had accidentally gotten mixed up in
my stuff. She said she'd never seen it before, and
sent it to her family group chat to ask if
it was theirs?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Did they plant a rusty knife in your clothes? They
plant evidence of a crime. In sounds like it they
committed a crime.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And they were like, Ah, I gotta get ope in
trouble for this.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
That's why they're tracking your car, because they're gonna call
the office. You're they're gonna be like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
This is girl. She she is sorry, Yeah, this girl,
she's got the knife.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
We know it.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Don't ask us how we know she has it.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
WIT's an anonymous tip? What happened to anonymous tips?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Her parents' responses were, Mom, what, LMO? I didn't give
her any laundry, and it's dirty on top of that,
so I definitely wouldn't give us something dirty, LMO. Think
about it. Love. That's kind of concerning because she didn't
check her luggage last time she was here. She carried on.
She would have been in trouble. Dad, ooh nice contraband,
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and she flew with it. This is the most obvious
setup ever. Also, you are the most cornball person. For
you just what cornball people? Their first reaction wasn't confusion.
It wasn't. I've never seen that before. It was immediately
defensive and focused on how I could have got in
trouble at the airport. I had ann thought about the
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fact that I flew with it. I was just trying
to figure out where it came from. But the reaction
combined with everything else as me spiraling. I can't shake
the feeling that they might have planted it in my
bag to try and get me in trouble. Now I
understand they planted in the bag before the flight.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Oh yeah, you weren't picking up on that.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, I didn't. I understood right.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Then they were trying to plant this and give her
a felony.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Oh my goodness, wow, which is yeah, extra crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, yeah cool.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And it's like, you know, they have the plausible deniability,
but it's like, at this point, I go to my
girlfriend if I'm op, and I'm like, your parents are
literally trying to ruin my life now.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, so we have.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
To take that conversation about jealousy they.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Were breaking up. We are either a team against them
or I'm leaving. Yeah, and you it's I don't even
put it.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Just to her. Yeah, there's no like halfway in this situation.
They're trying to get you arrested, and if she thinks
that that's not happening, then you guys can't stay to
again because she's always on their stay. Then you leave.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah simple.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I am so conflicted because there are nice people and
have truly helped me in so many ways. Am I
overthinking this? Or is this as weird as it feels
to me? I would really appreciate an outside perspective. Here's
a uh, there is nice. Upperclass nice isn't nice?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, upperclass nice is actually off in some of the
meanest crap you've ever conceived in your whole life, but they'll.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Do it with a smile.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, And this is new wealth.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Honestly, I can't even speak to between old money and
new money.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I don't know what that, but I feel like it
had to be said.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
And it's new money.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I don't know what that means, but it means something
I think that would actually probably a good thing. I
feel like old money is usually the cruelest.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Meaning they're trying to like, you can't be around us,
we're old money, and that's why they didn't just like,
you know, like like have her assassinated or something.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, like they just like were like, oh, we'll put
a little knife in her car on.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Well yeah, maybe if they were old money, they would
be like, we can't even assert it. We have to
we only marry my cousins.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah. No, if they were, if they were old money,
it'd be like a drone striker.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, damn be over.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
What was in the bag again?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
What a rusty knife? A rusty knife in the ulously
bless you? Bad thing to take on a plane.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
A knife?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
A knife?
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Our friend did that, I was.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Gonna say he did.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
He did the kind where the knife comes out of
a barrel.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
No, he wrote, Our friend has a license firearm.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah wait, you told me that. It was a great story.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
You told me this when we were going to Columbia.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah. Yeah, it was just it was a complete accident.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
He's it was a arm, it was registered and everything,
and he just it was in his backpack at the
worst possible moment.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
The worst possible place.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah, it's just like they take it out of the
bag and even he's.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Like, the story is he puts the back through the
thing and the alarm goes off and he goes, I
know exactly, oh no no, no, no, no no, and they
security comes up to TSA comes up to the like, hey,
that's a firearm, and he's like no, like that's an accident.
Like it don't matter what it is, We're going to
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take you to jail.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yah, that's crazy because every because every airport is actually
federal community service.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
So like they he was there for a long time,
so he obviously he's like so I think he asked.
He was like, so I'm not getting on my flight. Yeah,
like I gotta make my flight now. Wow, just a
freak accident. Yeah, I know it was. Check your bags.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
He's fine.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Sorry to be clear, he's fine only because he had
a good lawyer too, which is the scariest part. It's
like you can just make a mistake, like community service
freaking ruin you for like six months, but that was
about it.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
He didn't deserve time or anything.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, a lot of people would have gone to jail.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Ever since, because of that story, I triple check my
bags of like do I have anything in here that
I shouldn't be having.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
After reading through all of your comments on my original post,
I didn't realize just how concerning this situation sounded to outsiders.
It has given me a lot to think about, and
I really appreciate everyone's perspective. I want to talk to
my girlfriend about everything, but I'm struggling without to bring
it up. When I got back from my trip, I
called her. She lives abroad, and mentioned that her parents
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were pushing the idea of me moving in with them
so I could save money for a duplex, something I've
wanted for a while. I told her that while it
could help me financially, I didn't want to do it
because it could ruin the current dynamic I have with
her parents. I also called to vent about how her
mom essentially stopped me from going out with friends because
it was too late. Her response caught me off guard.
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She agreed that moving in wouldn't be a good idea,
but not because of her parents' control issues, because she
didn't want to hear me complain about.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
That leave by now it's your gone, oh by.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
This was new for me to hear, especially since she
constantly vents to me about how her mom micromanages her
life and how our dad does nothing to stop it.
That conversation made me feel like I don't know how
to bring up the bigger issues, the possibility that her
parents planted the knife in my bag. How I feel
like the car is being used to control me. How
I've slowly felt like they are trying to dick hate
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aspects of my life, just like hers they are. When
they gifted me the car after Christmas, they told me
they would keep it in their name since they had
a good interest rate on payments. No, because they want
to control you. I didn't think much of it at
the time. I was just grateful to have a car
that wasn't constantly breaking down. Her mom gave me an envelope,
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and I was under the impression that they were the
renewal stickers. The car's registration expired in January twenty five.
A week into January, I went to put the new
sticker on and open the envelope, only to find a
denial letter because she never submitted the required inspection. When
I texted her about it, she already knew it was
a denial, not the renewal stickers, but didn't mention it
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to me beforehand. While she was somewhat helpful when I
asked for info on how to get it fixed, it
turned into a frustrating ordeal. Since the car isn't in
my name, and is registered in a different country. It
took almost a month to get everything processed. I ended
up figuring it out on my own and was able
to change the mailing address so that stickers would come
directly to me. But here's the thing. I still haven't
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received the stickers. It's been three weeks. After reading everyone's comments,
I can't shake the feeling that this might be intentional.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Might be or like absolutely with certainty, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
My temporary receipt from the DMB is only valid for
thirty one days, which means it expires next week. If
I get pulled over with expired registration, that could cause
serious problems, especially because I'm applying to work in law enforcement.
I've completely dropped the idea of moving to their city
and will not be continuing the interview process for that job.
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I also know that I need to get a new
car as soon as possible. I'm going to start saving,
and when my girlfriend comes to visit at the end
of April, I'll ask her to drive the gifted car back.
Hopefully by then I'll have another car lined up. Looking back,
I felt weird about the car from the moment they
gave it to me. I was excited and grateful, but
something in my gut told me there were strings. At time,
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hatched before the car, I didn't feel like I owed
them anything or that they were entitled to details about
my life. Now I feel like they use it as
leverage to monitor me. I know I need to talk
to my girlfriend about this, but I want to approach
it in a way that isn't judgmental, just honest about
how I feel. We generally have good communication, but I'm
worried about how she'll react given her response to my
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last call. To also address the comments about the timeline
for when my girlfriend will be financially free from them,
I think it will be a very long time. They
have given her everything she's wanted and needed her whole life.
She doesn't have to work.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, I was about to say a very long time.
You know, what's a really long time?
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Forever?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Forever?
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Forever is a long long time.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I think, Yeah, she has these parents who are paying
for everything, who she thinks are controlling. But you know,
she's also not willing to give up that lifestyle. So
she's not going to stick up for you because she
doesn't want to lose all the money that she gets
from her parents.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, and that's your answer right there, that's your answer
for if do I stay or do I leave?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
You leave? She is only in the last few months
starting to realize that her parents are leveraging money to
control her and is starting to want to look for
jobs while going to school, which I'm very proud of
her for coming to the realization, as I know it
was not easy for her to do, but I honestly
think it maybe years before she actually stops being provided for.
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I mean, I feel like whenever we hear about these
kids who grow up really, really rich, they don't just
want to leave that lifestyle. They like the lifestyle, they're
used to it.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
I hear it's pretty nice.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Does anyone have advice on how to navigate this conversation?
How do I explain everything in a way that she'll
understand without making her feel defensive? And there are some
relevant comments? What do you think they we're focusing on
the wrong thing here, dude. Yeah, I think parents are literally, like, uh,
controlling you.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Your parents conspired to maybe get you thrown in prison. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I don't think you should be with someone who does
not see that as an extreme issue, especially if you
all have been together for years at this point.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I mean, it would be one thing if your girlfriend's
parents were controlling car, because then it would be a
conversation where you say, hey, I've noticed that your parents really,
you know, don't let you do much and they have
a lot of you know, hold over everything that you
do in your life. That's something you should notice and
maybe separate from them.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
And her response is, I shut up, I don't want
to hear about that.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, but that's not even the only problem. The problem
is that they're also trying to control you, and that's
a step too far. Relevant comments the eight o five
chicken Lady, You need to give that car back, even
if it hurts you day to day. If it's not
registered in your name, it's not your car. That car
is nothing but a tracking device and maybe even a
way for them to try to gather intel on you
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to use against you with your girlfriend. Same thing as
putting a rusty pocket knife in your luggage. Be glad
it wasn't substances. If you had been caught with that
little hawkknife at TSA, they'd make you throw it away,
but you might not be arrested. You would have been
immediately detained for substances, just saying. Kitty Book says, if
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you didn't do laundry at a Laundrymatt, the parents set
you up. Do not go back to their house. If
you do, don't even bring a purse, and you don't
take anything from them. I'd give back the car as well.
That's some crap. Opie says, Yeah, I did the laundry
at my house. I truly feel like I cannot trust
them anymore and it's giving me anxiety. Lool and there
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is an update. Ali says, they could also try to
get you arrested for theft if you don't return it
in a timely manner to them. Also true the car.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah, I would be extricating myself from this entire situation. Yeah,
I would be planning my exit.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories.
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Update two. I got my own car fixed and no
longer drive the one that was given to me. Good,
the same one involved in the initial situation. When I
finally told my girlfriend everything, she believed me and wanted
to get to the bottom of it. That's good. I
felt relieved. I'm relieved for you. Oh pee, Maybe we
can save this. Maybe we can say it hmmm over
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under and they can save it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
I say, there's I take the under.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, blast, I just don't like I don't She didn't
see that at all?
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Well, how did a rusty knife fall into your luggage?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
You know, if you really love your parents, you're very
close to them, you don't want to believe the worst.
I also talked to a few of my child but friends,
people she's only meant once and who live out of state,
just to get some perspective. I was intentional about who
I chose to speak to. I picked people who do
not know her family, and knowing the information we talked
about would not change their dynamics because they don't know
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each other. I still want to honor her and our relationship.
When I told her, though, she've lipped. She didn't speak
to me for a full day and said I had
betrayed her truth.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
There it is, there is, there's that under I was
talking about.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Then she told her dad that I thought her mom
planned the knife, which I never said. If anything, I've
always quietly believed it was her dad. This was a
much worse betrayal. She went to the source and finding
out that they hurt me so bad and I don't
think I will ever heal from it. We fought, eventually
talked it out and kept moving forward or try to.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
No. No.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Then about a month ago everything imploded.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
I think we're on the under the least surprising thing
of all time.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Her dad found out her mom was cheating. Dang, I
wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
That's why it imploded.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
The evidence seven back and fourth messages between her and
an old family friend catching up. That was it. Oh,
she she wasn't cheating, but it didn't matter, he spiraled.
It sounds like she wasn't cheating.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Well, this sounds like an upper class breakup. Well, my
girlfriend was home. He started screaming at her mom. It
got so intense that my girlfriend had to punt a
door open out of fear. The next day he punted
her mom out, cut off her phone service and all
her cards. She's a stay at a mom with no
personal finances. He left her with nothing. Yeah, so the
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dad is a huge problem.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
No prenup apparently not.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
I think that. I mean that kind of makes sense
because I mean the mom did say something of it.
She was like, what you could have gotten in trouble?
A rusty knife. I'd never it's so dirty. But the dad, actually,
you're right. Yeah, the dad was the one who was like,
your door's unlocked. Uh, we like you could have gotten
you could have been arrested that. Yeah. Like, I think
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he's the one who's been bringing up all these red flats.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
I gotta say, I think you're on to some there.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
My girlfriend came to stay with me after that, trying
to get space. He started blowing up her phone with
unhinged messages just because she set a boundary. Meanwhile, her
mom went back to the house while he was at
work to grab some of her things and found her
computer background changed to a picture of the man she
supposedly cheated with. When she walked into the bathroom, all
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of her perfume bottles were smashed and shards of glass everywhere. Yikes,
that's scary.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
The sky sounds like a real peach cobbler.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
A week later, he invited her the mom out to dinner,
but only communicated through their son, saying things like tell
your mom to come to dinner. At dinner, he acted
like everything was normal, held her and made her think
things were mending. Then mid meal, he slid her an envelope.
Inside was a Mother's Day card from her own mom,
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but written over the sweet note in thick black sharpie,
do not make a scene. We are getting a divorce
with his ring inside the envelope.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
That's so, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
They're out for dinner, and he goes, oh, here you go, love.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
Don't No.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
He definitely likes slit it, like, yeah, yeah, he's like.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
This guy is the most dramatic man ever to be, like,
don't make a scene.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
You're the one.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
You're the literally scene crafting the scene like you're a playwright. Yeah,
I want to give you an atomic wedgie.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
It was calculated, disturbing, cruel, and it was all done
with a smile on his face in front of their
kid man.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
I would have thrown hands at my dad for that.
I'm not even kidding. It would have been divorce.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, immediately bring it up. I'm making a scene.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
I would. I don't condone this.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Why did also you ruined my mother's card? Not cool?
Straight hook. Watching this unfold shattered something in me. I
watched my girlfriend's entire world collapse. She had always held
her dad in the highest regard and saw him as
someone who could do no wrong. But I thought, finally,
maybe now she'll see what I've been seeing all along,
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because I never truly believed her mom planted the knife.
I always felt it was him. He's dangerously intelligent, and
that's what makes him so terrifying. His attacks are calculated
and psychological.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
I'm sorry, but I just feel like you could break
this guy just by being like, why does your hair
look like that today?
Speaker 4 (50:07):
And do you have well, like what just wrong?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Just wrong?
Speaker 3 (50:11):
It just looks weird, completely shioble over something like that.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
But then, after two weeks of crying in my arms,
telling me how scared she was, she went back. And
the same night she got back, she said she had
a good talk with her dad and that they were good.
Now just like that.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Here comes the money.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, he said. She said, I'm so upset with you
for doing that to my mom, and he said, here's
two thousand dollars, and she said, I'm not that upset.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
And he said, here's five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
She's just nott hey after everything. Now her mom is
fully moved back in and they're all acting like none
of it ever happened. He divorced her. Here comes the money,
and my girlfriend is doing the same. She's given herself
no space to process. She's always been expected to be
everyone's rock, to hold it all together, and now she's
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doing that again. Everything is fine.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
I would ten out of ten times be rather be
destitute with nothing than to be in this situation.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yeah, I'm so confused. I don't understand. I mean, I
understand that she's getting money and that's why she's stand
but uh oh, p don't don't put up with this please.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I don't throw around the P word a lot, but
this guy sounds like a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, I mean the dad does.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, like, actually that's psychopathic.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
It's I mean, OPI even called it out. I also
think that, you know, these are really rich people who
have no kind of no touch. They're very out of
touch with reality. And ope, you seem like a grounded person. Yeah,
you don't need to you don't need to stick around
these people.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
You can go find I think you can find a
much better situation. Yeah, and not to be I don't
want to cast a dispersion over all people who are wealthy,
which of course that's that would it could You can't
do that with any subset of any group of people ever,
of course, but a lot of people who are psychopaths
to sociopaths, do you know, they can be pretty wealthy.
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And it's because when you have nothing preventing you from
literally just taking whatever you want without feeling anything bad
about it, you can tend to acquire quite a bit of.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Well, well yeah, I mean a lot of wealth comes
from exploitations, So you.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Have no qualms about exploiting people, you can make a
bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
I couldn't take it anymore. After being on the phone
with her and hearing her interact with her parents like
nothing happened, I finally told her the truth that she's
being manipulated, that it's hard to watch, that I will
never see her parents the same way again, that I
don't want a relationship with them moving forward, by the way,
I want a relationship with you guys, moving forward. And
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Speaker 6 (52:56):
Storytime Appa podcast, Appa Podcasts podcast one guy saying yip yip,
I would encourage your girlfriend to get herself out from
underneath the thumb of her father, and I would no
longer be in an intimate relationship with her because I
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think it's just not a healthy situation.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
So you stretching.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
But folks, I think here we have a little bit left.
I don't know if you can stay in a relationship
with where your girlfriend just fundamentally doesn't recognize what her
parents are doing, especially her dad. I mean, they have
totally violated boundaries on your part. And so the fact
that you know it makes sense that she can't see
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what they're doing to her. I think that's a lot
easier to, you know, to do. But the fact that
she is not willing to even notice what they're doing
to you is not okay. And you guys aren't in
a partnership and it's been three years and she doesn't recognize.
So yeah, it's not changed anytime soon, but there's a
little bit left. It hurt her deeply. She wants me
to be good with her family. I get it. They
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mean everything to her, but I will never be good
with them. I'm still so angry for her because all
I see is how they use her manipulator and take
advantage of her loyalty and she doesn't see it. We
argued again. I'm exhausted. We're supposed to be moving abroad
together in two months, and yet we're both trying to
live in completely different realities. I love her, but this
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is breaking me and relevant comments Dragon Seafruit says, your
relationship is over. Please take it out back and end
it already. Please take it out back and do an
old yeller on it. Watching this miserably play out isn't
fun for anyone. Opie says, I don't agree that our
relationship is over. We're really great in person, have been
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doing long distance for a year, and for the most part,
have continued to push each other to grow and be
better versions of ourselves. We just need to learn how
to navigate her family dynamic in a way that I
get to keep my boundaries and she still gets to
feel connected to her family. Isn't gonna work. That's the
end of that story. Ope wrote all of that and
then was like, no, no, no, is it No, it's not over.
(55:08):
He's not over. It's over, girl. I'm sorry. It's okay
for it to be over. It's okay. Just because you
put three years in doesn't mean that you got to
put more is a sunk cost fallacies.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
Cost fallacies is quite a doozy.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
If she saw what her family was doing too, if
she recognized that, and if she put up boundaries with them,
different story. That is not the case. But that, unfortunately,
is the end of that story. Op did not learn
anything by the end of it.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Funny that it all started with her being like, I'm
jealous of my partner. How do I fix that? Well,
and then my partner's family are literally trying to control
my entire life. What do I do?
Speaker 3 (55:49):
They say the first stage to get to acceptance, you know,
it's denial, it's denial. She might be on the road.
Then that relationship is gone. Yeah, but that is the
end of that. It sure is a story, and I
believe the end of the episode.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
I think my girlfriend is a stalker stalker I hardly
know her. Say, probably trigger warding for stalking, yeah, and
also cly trigger warning for stalking, a lot of trigger
warnings for stockings. I'm asking this to see if I'm
the one who's completely lost my mind here. My twenty
eight male girlfriend twenty five female has this dream journal.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
She's always writing it. I thought it was cute, you know,
expressing her inner world and all that. She claims it
can help her understand her subconscious better, which made sense
to me. But homie just found out what journaling is like.
It's actually kind of cool. By the way, this story
comes from ames to her name, and if you want
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to submit her own stories, go to the r slash
Okay Storytime subbured it. So anyway, last night she accidentally
left it open at her bedside table.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Italics because it feels like this is from the journal.
It's an excerpt.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Ooh, I wasn't trying to snoop, but a page was
open and a phrase caught my eye. Ten seventeen am.
He got coffee with two sugars, just like I knew
he would. My stomach dropped. Oh, I glanced at another entry.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Why as she timing all of these?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Three forty five pm? Called his mom? Sounded a little stressed.
Must remember to bring up the job thing later. This
wasn't a dream journal. It was a play by play
of my day. Every single entry was about me, my movements,
my conversations, even one she wasn't present for, Oh, my habits.
It was incredibly long and detailed, almost like a surveillance log.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Dude, dude, she's a spy.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
She's not a spy. She's not a stalker. She's having
prophetic visions in her dreams.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, she was like at three point one, he's going
to the store, and You're like, how does she know
that she's stalking me?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
No, she saw it, or she's a time traveler, dang it.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And she's like has to remember all of.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
The Yeah, this is just back to the future where
Doc Brown's like.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, what are the clocks? It's eight o'clock. Yeah, and
behind there's so many different explanations. O pee, let's not
jump to the most obvious.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I have not confronted her yet because I'm genuinely trying
to find out if this is some bizarre form of
affection I'm not understanding, or if I should be calling
my therapist and maybe looking into changing my locks. Am
I overreacting by feeling deeply, deeply creeped out? Is this
a normal girlfriend thing I'm just too dense to grasp
or is this a massive red flag waving in my face?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think it's really funny that he's like, is.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
This just normal?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Does everyone's girlfriends take detailed notes of their day to day?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Buddy? I think I think your gut has the answer
for that.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Also, like Amanda Foxy's comment of it's Sophia amplified, which
took me a second, but then I realized you were
talking about my prophetic dreams.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Right there we go?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, I was like.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I was also like, wait, what, you're right, because yours
my visions.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm gonna start doing this every time I'm doing the
psych thing.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Gene, I need you, Gene, let me in. We're referencing
X men for everyone who might be confused. Liked Sophia.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I've seen how do You You can't be confused by that?
I've seen X Men, Days of Future Past.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Good movie.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I really like her and I haven't had any major
issues with our relationship. She's like the sweetest person ever
and hasn't shown any signs of being crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
But now I'm a little scared for my safety. What
do I do? I don't we have an update.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I need to see these excerpts, you know. I need
to know what she's saying. I need to know where
you're going.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's like, it really does. I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It depends on like the context of Like if she's saying,
like he got coffee, he had a conversation, I remember
to bring that up later, Like that's a little concerning.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
But if she's like I yearned to know what his
bones feel like inside my body.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's it's a lot of concerning.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That feels like you want to wear me like a
piece of clothing.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
There are levels, there are levels to the crazy. It
could just be she is maybe a little neurodivergent, and
it's like, I don't know how to bring up conversation stuff.
So I will learn as much as I can about
them and then bring that up.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I gotta say, though, no matter what, stalking is a
red flag. No, no, I really to be.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Clear, probably being got by following you around.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, to be clear, still a red flag. I'm just saying.
The severity ranges from she just doesn't know what to
say and needs conversation topics and is doing it in
a really creepy way. Right, So he says, love bombing
also possible, or she's maybe gonna try and hurt you,
or we should run away.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, let's get into this update. So I followed the
advice so of one user woe Bred thirty five, which
suggested that I ask her what she's writing about while
she's in the middle of writing, like you I man,
and she's like, well, I overheard you talking earlier today
while you were at, you know, in line at the
grocery store.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Now he's like, what are you writing about? And she's like,
three twenty five? My boyfriend just asked me what I'm
writing about. He's sitting in the chair, mmmm.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Do and she just like looks at him expectantly.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Like continue, and he's like, are you as.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
He then asked me if a court reporter, she's got
a stynomyos and she's doing shorthand.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I was on the couch reading a book when I
noticed her writing in her journal from the other couch.
I asked her what she was writing about and why
she was writing in her dream journal when she hadn't
even gone to sleep yet. You ruin my dream journal.
She told me that she doesn't always use it for
dreams and sometimes uses it as a regular diary. I
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didn't feel like lying, so I just admitted that I
had glanced at it earlier and noticed she was logging
my daily activities. Her face got about as red as
a tomato, and she got real quiet for a minute.
She said that she knows how bad it looks, and
that her journal is meant to be a relationship sink journal,
as she called it. She says that humans rarely scratch
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the surface of truly understanding each other, even when they're
in relationships. She says her goal is to achieve a
deep and intuitive connection with me. Basically, she wants to
instinctively know my moods and behaviors so she can be
the best partner possible, which explains the entry about me
putting two sugars in my coffee. Which I don't even
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think I paid attention to how many sugars I.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Put in my coffee.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That one, if it wasn't connected to all like the
other stuff, is kind of cute, I think. I think
it's I I not this in connection to this story
sounds weird, but I write notes about my friends and saying,
you know, like things that they like, things that they
you know, right, facts about them.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So her friendship sink journal, friendship sink journal.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
While I do kind of agree with your notion that
it's like, yeah, it's like a lot of people never
even really get to know each other, Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
The way that you.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Do that, yeah, is by being talking to them to
be clear the relationship and talking.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I was only talking about the part about writing down
to sugar. No.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
No, no, she's not condoning an absolute this.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I think that she's going about this the like in
a really bad way. Like if you want to intuitively
know someone that takes time, that takes hours spent together,
like I feel, I think Sam and I have a
very intuitive, intuitive relationship.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeap.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Just the other day he asked me where something was
and I went, it's in the thing. And I was
sitting next to someone I remember who it was, and
they were like, the thing that doesn't you didn't tell
where it was? And Sam was like okay and immediately
went to where I was sporting at. So it is.
It's time. It's not trying to hack the system.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Right, There's not like a secret algorith of them you
can make with all this information. It's gonna like make
your connection deep. You gotta get deep, don't. She thinks
that this will lead to us having an unbreakable bond.
It sounds absolutely insane, but when she was explaining it,
some of it made sense. I'm not gonna lie. She
made it out to sound like the sweetest thing ever.
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But if she truly wanted us to be in sync,
why didn't she ask me to also track her movements?
I mean, I really thought that was gonna be Why
didn't she ask me what my favorite breakfast is? Like
what kind of movies I like?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Like?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Who I idolized growing up? Like this is not what
are we doing?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
If a boyfriend snuggled in for a shoulder I can't
read in for a shoulder nap and said he's trying
to intuitively dream together so y'all can be in each
other's head even when you're apart. Honestly, that sounds kind
of cute.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
See you're trying to make a joke, but I could tell.
I was like, that's actually gonna get hurt. Really good,
it's actually gonna get hurt. A snuggle so we can
dream together.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
He'd be like, I'm gonna marry that guy if some
guy like tried to nap on your shoulder and was like,
I'm like, you can dream the same dream now since
our heads are next to.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Each other, Like, canna say that to me?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
That cry? No, she's gonna cry someone that.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, sorry, let's get back to it.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
That's wild. Look how red I am. Oh my god, Sophia,
that's not how it works. But oh, oh my god,
that might be.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
That might be one of the funniest things I think
has ever happened on the show.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
This guy's being like, why didn't my girlfriend ask me
to stalk her?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
If she was really serious about this, she would have
said I should be stalking her.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
How does this strengthen our connection?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
If she knows me to this extreme of an extent
when I don't know her to that extent. Part of
me almost wishes that she just said she would stalking me.
But this explanation almost leaves me feeling more confused. I'm torn,
is this a good explanation or is this just her
justifying obsessive and crazy behavior.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I think that it could be.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Buddy, is this your first I feel like this is
another first relationship situation.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
It's like, is she a little bit weird because it's.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Like I can't tell uh.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I agree with her philosophically, where it's like, yeah, a
lot of people can go through like years together and
not even know each other.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, but this is not like the recipe to getting
to like a deep connection with someone at all.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think the thing is that you need to ask
her because if she was just taking notes about things
that she's been at, if she was like I noticed
that when we were out together he put his fork
on the left side of his plate, or I noticed
that he like.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Skips, you know, on whimsical whimsical.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
If it was like that, like things she noticed when
they were together, I think that would be fine. It
would be you know, maybe I would be a little
bit confused why she was noticing so much, but it
wouldn't be crazy. I think the fact that she is
apparently like going to places without his knowledge and like
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getting information that she shouldn't know. That's the red flag here,
and I would have a conversation about those boundaries of saying,
how do you know this information? Because it's making me
a little uncomfortable that you're potentially literally stalking man.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
We could maybe want the same thing. Yeah, I think
we should just go about it.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
A different way.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Update number two. First off, I want to clarify a
few things. Based on the comments from my last post.
It was overwhelming trying to respond to everyone. My girlfriend
isn't on the autism spectrum. She does not display many
related traits. Also, I don't work in a field with
sensitive information, so this isn't a case of work espionage.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That shit. You think maybe you're in the Truman Show
and she's taking notes.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Have you checked out if the moon is have you
checked Some of you mentioned possible mental health issues, which
she's never brought up, but after what I found this morning,
I find it highly unlikely she isn't struggling with something.
So we had a discussion about the relationship sink journals
last night after my last update. She was very forthcoming
and I genuinely believed she was coming from a sincere place.
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I told her she didn't have to study my every
move to strengthen our bond, and that we could learn
about each other through shared activities. She seemed satisfied with
that and agreed to stop the journals since they made
me uncomfortable. She even offered to let me read the
whole journal, which I did. Most of the entries were
just notes on my likes and dislikes, but one entry
really stood out. She was tracking my Facebook activity log.
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For those wondering how she knew about conversations I wasn't
present for. We sometimes share my laptop, and I'd forgotten
I was logged into Facebook on it, and that made
me feel uneasy.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
See, now this is a breach of trust. This is
no longer she's just hyper observe about the interactions that
they have. This is now she's reading your messages, which
is not okay. That's what it sounds like. It sounds
like she's locked into your er. She went onto your
Facebook and looks for your message.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's funny because I think of these as the exact
same thing. But it's just that, I mean, if anything,
I think the actually following you around in the real
world and like tagging like weird notes on you, maybe
without you knowing.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No, oh, I was saying. I was saying, I thought
that the other things. I don't know if she's like
followed him around in the real world. It sounds like
she when they're together and he's aware of her presence,
she takes a lot of notes about things. But it
sounds like, yeah, that's I think that's what he's saying.
And then he said that the conversations that she wasn't
there for, Oh, that's because she's reading his messages, which
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is a total violation, which you guys know what I
think about that about reading messages not okay, But it
doesn't even sound like she's doing it because she thinks
he's cheating. It's it's like she doesn't even have a
good reason.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, it's just off putting. Yeah, she's off putting. And
I'm not at ease. No, You're like, you're gonna go
to the bathroom. She's gonna be like, stand on the
scale that you lost exactly point.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Six's taking notes about your height and your weight.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I have an entire sub section based on your bowel movement.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, She's like, heart rate, please put this on. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, I may have hacked your little no free sponsors, but.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, She's like, I'm gonna need to take some of
your blunt today. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Your biometrics are an absolute must since I primarily work
from home. After she left this morning, I decided to
check the garage. I remembered seeing some notebooks in a
box out there. What I discovered was horrifying.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
There wasn't just one relationship sink journal, but five of them,
completely filled with entries dating back a year before we
even started dating.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, oh yeah, bye, bye bye, out of there. Out,
let's go a year before you started dating.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh, I actually am running away. I'm ghosting this person.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm leaving immediately.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Wait, no, don't. You can't ghost No, because she'll finally
seeing you. It'll make it worse.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You have to have a conversation. Okay, I'm leaving you.
This is totally not okay.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You go.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Everything that I thought that we were is a lie,
and i've been. You have reduced me, in my mind
to nothing more than an experiment that you have been
manipulating variables in and for that reason, sharks I'm out.
We had known each other through friends before dating, so
I wasn't a complete stranger. But some of these entries
are for before we were even friendly. We had just
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had minor cordial encounters. She's been tracking my Facebook for
a long time. In one journal, there was essentially a
diagram cross referencing my likes, comments, friends lists, and family members,
seemingly to determine who I was closest to.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
This is terrifying. This is truly so scary girl.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Why don't you use all this mental energy.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
To make some money. Think of the two pounds she's
plot Opie's life to hardest organs. I hope not. I
hope not. This one from like oh, it could have
been a little bit cute to like get out of there, truly.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
There was also an entry about my ex girlfriend, where
she was taking notes from social media to speculate about
why we broke up. Her goal was to prevent herself
from making the same mistake as my ex. Even more disturbingly,
she had notes about my browser history, specifically mentioning that
she'd watched some adult videos from my history to understand how.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
To please me better. Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Totally insane because if she wanted to know him better.
If that was her goal, then you ask You ask
these questions to your partner. You engage, you spend time
with them, you learn about them. You don't cheat by
freaking obsessively looking them up.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Dude. Op, he's girlfriend doesn't even sleep. Yeah, Obi goes
to sleep and then his girlfriend is just right here.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah. He sleeps for exactly six hours and three minutes.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Two thirty seven in the morning. I think this was
the exact moment he went into rem sleep.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He snored for about ten ten minute intervals.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
His leg twitched and it was the perfect twitch.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Like this is this is terrifying.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Everything is terrifying, and I want to be No.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So somebody should make this a horror movie. Honestly, that
is this is this is get out, but like one person.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
There's no headlines where it's like someone's dating someone, but
really they just want to be that person. I can't
remember what well, that's that's get out. No, but it's
like a date specifically within a dating just also so happened.
Sorry in hyper analyzing mode, Okayti, but all I can
think now is invisible man, Yeah, which is great And
if you've never seen that trauma.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah, never ever, ever, ever watched The Invisible Man.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, I've seen the trailer for it.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
She also has entries analyzing my reactions to certain things,
my body language, and other details to understand my subconscious motivations.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Maybe she works for an AI company. Maybe she is
an age.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I felt really bad yesterday when some comments suggested I
was a bad boyfriend for not appreciating how thoughtful she was.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Those were her She found your reddit. She found your reddit,
and she's been commenting. She's like, that was really thoughtful.
You should appreciate your girlfriend. You should appreciate me, I
mean your girlfriend. Mark.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
There's no way she doesn't know about this Reddit post.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
She does.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
There's no way she doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
She's got cameras, which is why I tried to be
so understanding last night. But now I am genuinely terrified,
and I am contemplating leaving the house before she comes back.
And there's a third update, and like literally, like just
a little bit of actual advice, I would not ghost her.
I would try to give her some semblance of closure,
because with the ghosting, I think will make her like
literally like snap or something.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, in her whole life forever and ever and ever.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I honestly think I think tells get someone there with you,
like some sort of third party there with you when
you break up with her, for safety, because she seems unstable.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Definitely have Yeah, somebody, do not be alone. Update number three.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
After my last post where I discovered the extent of
the additional relationship sink journals, I decided the best option
was to stay home without telling her about my discovery. Luckily,
she invited one of her friends over, so I didn't
have to spend a lot of time with her before
going to bed while she was busy with her friend.
I ended up taking the advice of Electronic News, a
user own Reddit who suggested eye contact an ex of
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hers and ask if she ever did anything like that
with him? You know, a very detail I think we
glossed over here. She was like extremely forthcoming with this. Yeah,
I almost think she might not think this is an issue. No,
I don't think she does.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I think that she is so set in her like
I don't know, it's so set in her mind that
she's doing this to sync more with them. She's like, no, no,
like the intengents are good that she does and think
that any of the you know ways that she got
went about it are intane, not.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Looking at the action, just looking at the intent.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, the action is like the ends justifyed the session.
The action is actual obsession, like scary obsession.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I only knew of one X, but I remembered that
she described him as psycho and asked me to block
him on Facebook because she was worried he might pester me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Ah, yeah, you should go talk to that guy.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, it sounds like that the first guy. You should
sprint at full speed too.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I decided to unblock him and then send him a
message asking if we could talk on a voice call.
We were eventually able to connect on the phone while
she was visiting with her friend. He actually sounded like
a very normal guy. When I spoke with him, I
told him why I was calling. He got quiet when
I mentioned my girlfriend's name, Ben said, what has she
done now? I ended up telling him the whole story,
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and afterwards I heard him laughing on the other end
of the phone. It wasn't a laugh like he thought
it was funny. It was more like a laugh of
disbelief this had happened again.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
He then told me he had a similar experience with her,
but she never journaled around him and they didn't live
together for him to find any journals, so the journal
thing was new just for me, apparently, But he did
recall her knowing things that she shouldn't know sometimes. He
also mentioned that things in his apartment would go missing
and then suddenly reappear, when he would swear that he
never touched them. At the time, he was more concerned
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about a ghost or something than his girlfriend, But he
said he started to feel suffocated by her after a
while and chose to break things off with her after that.
That's when the story started to take a turn. Apparently,
a week after they broke up, she showed up at
his house and told him that she's pregnant. WHOA, I
don't believe her, Sophia doesn't believe women.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I don't believe that woman.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
No, no, no, I don't believe that one.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I don't believe that specific woman.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
He said.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
He decided to give her a second chance, but after
a few weeks he noticed that one of her friends
had posted a snapchat of her at a bar drinking
after work. That's when he can fronted her and she
admitted that she had faked the pregnancy to get him
back crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That's when he.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Broke things off with her and told her to never
contact him again. He said he didn't hear from her
again after that. But by the way, you can hear
from us whenever you want. Bye listening to full episodes
with stories just like this on Spotify or iHeartRadio or
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Speaker 4 (22:26):
Why do they have to search Sophia.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Oh just okay, story times.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'm just the name of our show. It's just us,
so we have a little bit of story left here.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Wow. I honestly think someone earlier said that you could
potentially get a restraining order because you have the proof
of the journals, and I think that's a good idea.
I think you have proof that she's done this before
to someone else, man, you have proof that she's currently
doing it to you. I would break up with her.
I would break up with her with someone there. Change
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your locks, see if you can, you know, get to
a safe place, because it seems like you guys live together,
so make sure you have a safe place that she
doesn't know about. Uh, she'll probably find out, but make
sure she starts off not knowing yeah, and then yeah,
begin the process of separating. And also, now you know
that she'll use the pregnancy thing. So if she says
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to you after you break out with her, yeah, I'm pregnant,
you have to stay with me, you know that that's
a lie.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I would look into the cybersecurity Yeah protocols.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Amy Lady's change password. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
He said that months later he had found a camera
in his smoke detector when he was changing.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
The batteries for it.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
He said he knew it was her, but couldn't prove it.
I told him about her telling me to block him,
and he said she must have made me do that
because she knew that he would warn me if he
found out she had a boyfriend. I'm going to call
movers to arrange for them to come pick up my
stuff while she is at work. I'm not even going
to tell her. I don't think I'm going to be
able to find movers until next week, though, So my
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plan is to just try to play things off over
the next few days.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And that is the end of that story. And I
think I got it amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Definitely maybe ghost her trying to just disappear off the
face of the earth and that's that.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, I think you should block. I mean I think
you should talk to her and then break up with
her personally. But again I've already said with the person
there that you trust, then make sure you have an
exit plan since you live together, Yes, start looking into
new apartments if you can, just us see if you
can break your lease, anything that gets you away from her,
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especially because of the whole camera stuff, like there's probably
cameras in your apartment.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Honestly, yeah, I would do like the sweep, do the
uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But that's the end of that story. So we're gonna
get into the next one.
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Speaker 2 (24:46):
First, I think my girlfriend's parents planted something in my
bag and now I want out.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
They just want you, guys to grow.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I am twenty two female and my girlfriend is twenty
one female. We have been in a same gender relationship
for two and a half years, and we are both
very healthy individuals sick. My girlfriend comes from a wealthy
family and often goes on luxurious international vacations with them.
The last two times they've traveled abroad. I stayed at
their place to dog sit. Her family is incredible and
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treats me like one of their own, doing so much
for me. Meanwhile, I come from a poor background and
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Speaker 3 (25:36):
So.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I just graduated college in May and will start my
job in July. I work tirelessly to land this job
without annie family connections, paying my own way through college
while working to cover rent and tuition. Here's where it
gets tricky. I can't help but feel envious of her life.
She never has to worry about money and can do
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whatever she wants whenever she wants. She's amazing, not stuck
up at all, and fully aware of her privilege. She
often pays for us when we get out. Yet I
can't shake this jealousy about her ability to float through
life effortlessly while I have to grind and start my
adult life immediately after college. Because it's not about anything
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she does, I don't know how to bring it up
to her to make matters more complicated. She will be
studying abroad in Scotland this year, and if I had
the same opportunity, I would take it in a heartbeat,
But I just don't have that privilege. Our relationship is secure.
We are able to communicate openly about any issues that
are eyes besides this one lol. She loves me for
who I am and never makes me feel obligated to
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buy lavish things for her. When she pays for things,
she does so out of kindness and never makes me
feel belittled. She understands my financial situation and never judges
me for it. Her family is newly wealthy. Her dad
grew up poor and made a name for himself as
an MD. They just hit Bring It in a million
in this year and are continuing to expand.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
They have never asked me to join their family vacations,
but her parents have paid for things related to my
college experience and are currently helping me furnish my first apartment.
Her dad also gives me a lot of valuable financial advice,
which I am very grateful for. How do I cope
with these feelings of jealousy and frustration? And there is
an update folks, But it's tricky, I think to be
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around people who have different access to different things than you,
and I don't want to like it is normal to
have those feelings of jealousy. However, it isn't your girlfriend's fault,
so it is something that you need to deal with.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, I mean, if you want to say it's your
girlfriend's fault, it's like, well, just she exists.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
She exists, and she has different opportunities than you do,
and that's just how it is.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
We have to be masters of our own emotions, in
our own feelings.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, it to take some level of personal accountability for that,
m M. And then that actually frees you because then
once you take full responsibility for all your feelings and
even if guys, not all of your feelings are you
just going to come from you, Some of your feelings
are like coming from outside stuff. Yeah, but if you
just take all the responsibility for it, you were down
free because they're yours.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I don't even know if I would necessarily say, like talk,
tell her about this. I don't know. I'm kind of
on the fence on this because it's kind.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Of happened to me.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
But I mean, not like this, but yeah, I had
to bring that up to an X of mine where
it's like we were both actors and she booked something
and I got really really jealous about it, and I
was like, I honestly wanted to be happy for you there,
but I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I was more like mad than it wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, I wanted to just put that out there because
I don't want to feel that way.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I think that would be a good way to say it,
because she clearly isn't doing anything too, you know, like
if there was something specific, like if she was flaunting
it and always like paying for things and giving all
these expensive gifts and then expecting you also to get
like that would be something to bring up. But I
feel or to address and fix. But here maybe it's
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just saying I add these feelings, not your faults. I'm
working on them. That might be the best move. But yeah,
it's it's not her fault. So it's definitely just like
a first step is understanding that those feelings are from you.
They're coming from you, not from any other you know,
thing that she's doing. So yeah, it's normal.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Don't beat yourself up too hard either, because you're not
your feelings and you're not your thoughts like you know,
yeah they're not.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
This is also happy, you know, this has happened to
me where I've I've had you know, been jealous of
a friend for whatever reason, and then you just have
to be like, okay, that would let's put a stopper
on that, because they're not doing anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Get the flamethrower and go and insiderate it.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
But there is an update. My girlfriend with female twenty
four is getting her dog and her parents financially support
her while she's in school. The issue is they use
the support to control every aspect of her life. Oh whoa,
this story took a turn where she can live, how
much time she can spend with me, Female twenty four,
and even the places she's allowed to go over time.
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Though a lot of reflection and conversations with me, she
realized this isn't normal and plans to fully distance herself
once she secures a stable job that can help pay
for her degree. We've been together for three years. Wasn't
it two years before we've jumped a year?
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Maybe you know, sometimes people change a little piece of
information for anonymity or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And as time has passed, her parents have started trying
to control aspects of my life as well. I grew
up poor and have always financially supported myself. I used
to drive a Beater car that finally gave out, and
for Christmas, her parents gifted me one of their cars.
While I was incredibly grateful, I always felt like there
were strings attached. For instance, the car isn't registered in
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my name, which created issues when trying to renew the registration.
It also has an app that allows remote access starting
the car, tracking its location, etc. Yikes, what I wouldn't
want that. No, no, no. I never asked for access
because I knew they were using it to keep tabs
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on me. Tikes. I even got a text from my
girlfriend's dad once letting me know I had left the
car door unlocked, confirming to me that they definitely monitor.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I'm like, is this your car? My car? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Is this your car my car? That's the question you
need to ask. And if they say this is our car,
you go, all right, take it back, take it back? Yeah,
take you back to take it back. I thought that
was a gift. I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Recently, I applied for a job in the city where
my girlfriend and her parents live. Since my girlfriend is
currently abroad for her doctorate, she wasn't home when I
stayed with her parents for my first round of interviews.
While I was there, they kept pushing the idea of
me living with them to save money to buy a house.
I was polite and considered it in conversation, but I
knew that wasn't something I wanted. During my visit, my
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girlfriend's friends invited me to go out to a few
bars one night, but her mom had an issue with
me being out late, so I ended up not going.
What was your girlfriend going out?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
This is strange. There's way too much power. Yeah, dynamic,
very hikey, very ikey. It's strange.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Now here's where I need perspective. I flew home that
Sunday with just to carry on bag. I did an
unpack right away, and when I finally did laundry on Tuesday,
I found a rusty pocket knife in my load of clothes.
I was completely confused because a pocket knife is not
something I own or have seen before. I sent a
picture to my girlfriend to see if it might belong
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to her brother and had accidentally gotten mixed up in
my stuff. She said she'd never seen it before, and
sent it to her family group chat to ask if
it was theirs?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Did they plant a rusty knife in your clothes? They
plant evidence of a crime. In sounds like it they
committed a crime.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And they were like, Ah, I gotta get ope in
trouble for this.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
That's why they're tracking your car, because they're gonna call
the office. You're they're gonna be like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
This is girl. She she is sorry, Yeah, this girl,
she's got the knife.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
We know it.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Don't ask us how we know she has it.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
WIT's an anonymous tip? What happened to anonymous tips?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Her parents' responses were, Mom, what, LMO? I didn't give
her any laundry, and it's dirty on top of that,
so I definitely wouldn't give us something dirty, LMO. Think
about it. Love. That's kind of concerning because she didn't
check her luggage last time she was here. She carried on.
She would have been in trouble. Dad, ooh nice contraband,
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and she flew with it. This is the most obvious
setup ever. Also, you are the most cornball person. For
you just what cornball people? Their first reaction wasn't confusion.
It wasn't. I've never seen that before. It was immediately
defensive and focused on how I could have got in
trouble at the airport. I had ann thought about the
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fact that I flew with it. I was just trying
to figure out where it came from. But the reaction
combined with everything else as me spiraling. I can't shake
the feeling that they might have planted it in my
bag to try and get me in trouble. Now I
understand they planted in the bag before the flight.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Oh yeah, you weren't picking up on that.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, I didn't. I understood right.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Then they were trying to plant this and give her
a felony.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Oh my goodness, wow, which is yeah, extra crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, yeah cool.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And it's like, you know, they have the plausible deniability,
but it's like, at this point, I go to my
girlfriend if I'm op, and I'm like, your parents are
literally trying to ruin my life now.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, so we have.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
To take that conversation about jealousy they.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Were breaking up. We are either a team against them
or I'm leaving. Yeah, and you it's I don't even
put it.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Just to her. Yeah, there's no like halfway in this situation.
They're trying to get you arrested, and if she thinks
that that's not happening, then you guys can't stay to
again because she's always on their stay. Then you leave.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah simple.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I am so conflicted because there are nice people and
have truly helped me in so many ways. Am I
overthinking this? Or is this as weird as it feels
to me? I would really appreciate an outside perspective. Here's
a uh, there is nice. Upperclass nice isn't nice?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, upperclass nice is actually off in some of the
meanest crap you've ever conceived in your whole life, but they'll.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Do it with a smile.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, And this is new wealth.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Honestly, I can't even speak to between old money and
new money.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I don't know what that, but I feel like it
had to be said.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
And it's new money.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I don't know what that means, but it means something
I think that would actually probably a good thing. I
feel like old money is usually the cruelest.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Meaning they're trying to like, you can't be around us,
we're old money, and that's why they didn't just like,
you know, like like have her assassinated or something.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, like they just like were like, oh, we'll put
a little knife in her car on.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Well yeah, maybe if they were old money, they would
be like, we can't even assert it. We have to
we only marry my cousins.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah. No, if they were, if they were old money,
it'd be like a drone striker.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, damn be over.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
What was in the bag again?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
What a rusty knife? A rusty knife in the ulously
bless you? Bad thing to take on a plane.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
A knife?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
A knife?
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Our friend did that, I was.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Gonna say he did.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
He did the kind where the knife comes out of
a barrel.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
No, he wrote, Our friend has a license firearm.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah wait, you told me that. It was a great story.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
You told me this when we were going to Columbia.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah. Yeah, it was just it was a complete accident.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
He's it was a arm, it was registered and everything,
and he just it was in his backpack at the
worst possible moment.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
The worst possible place.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah, it's just like they take it out of the
bag and even he's.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Like, the story is he puts the back through the
thing and the alarm goes off and he goes, I
know exactly, oh no no, no, no, no no, and they
security comes up to TSA comes up to the like, hey,
that's a firearm, and he's like no, like that's an accident.
Like it don't matter what it is, We're going to
(37:00):
take you to jail.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yah, that's crazy because every because every airport is actually
federal community service.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
So like they he was there for a long time,
so he obviously he's like so I think he asked.
He was like, so I'm not getting on my flight. Yeah,
like I gotta make my flight now. Wow, just a
freak accident. Yeah, I know it was. Check your bags.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
He's fine.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Sorry to be clear, he's fine only because he had
a good lawyer too, which is the scariest part. It's
like you can just make a mistake, like community service
freaking ruin you for like six months, but that was
about it.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
He didn't deserve time or anything.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, a lot of people would have gone to jail.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Ever since, because of that story, I triple check my
bags of like do I have anything in here that
I shouldn't be having.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
After reading through all of your comments on my original post,
I didn't realize just how concerning this situation sounded to outsiders.
It has given me a lot to think about, and
I really appreciate everyone's perspective. I want to talk to
my girlfriend about everything, but I'm struggling without to bring
it up. When I got back from my trip, I
called her. She lives abroad, and mentioned that her parents
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were pushing the idea of me moving in with them
so I could save money for a duplex, something I've
wanted for a while. I told her that while it
could help me financially, I didn't want to do it
because it could ruin the current dynamic I have with
her parents. I also called to vent about how her
mom essentially stopped me from going out with friends because
it was too late. Her response caught me off guard.
(38:27):
She agreed that moving in wouldn't be a good idea,
but not because of her parents' control issues, because she
didn't want to hear me complain about.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
That leave by now it's your gone, oh by.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
This was new for me to hear, especially since she
constantly vents to me about how her mom micromanages her
life and how our dad does nothing to stop it.
That conversation made me feel like I don't know how
to bring up the bigger issues, the possibility that her
parents planted the knife in my bag. How I feel
like the car is being used to control me. How
I've slowly felt like they are trying to dick hate
(39:00):
aspects of my life, just like hers they are. When
they gifted me the car after Christmas, they told me
they would keep it in their name since they had
a good interest rate on payments. No, because they want
to control you. I didn't think much of it at
the time. I was just grateful to have a car
that wasn't constantly breaking down. Her mom gave me an envelope,
(39:20):
and I was under the impression that they were the
renewal stickers. The car's registration expired in January twenty five.
A week into January, I went to put the new
sticker on and open the envelope, only to find a
denial letter because she never submitted the required inspection. When
I texted her about it, she already knew it was
a denial, not the renewal stickers, but didn't mention it
(39:41):
to me beforehand. While she was somewhat helpful when I
asked for info on how to get it fixed, it
turned into a frustrating ordeal. Since the car isn't in
my name, and is registered in a different country. It
took almost a month to get everything processed. I ended
up figuring it out on my own and was able
to change the mailing address so that stickers would come
directly to me. But here's the thing. I still haven't
(40:03):
received the stickers. It's been three weeks. After reading everyone's comments,
I can't shake the feeling that this might be intentional.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Might be or like absolutely with certainty, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
My temporary receipt from the DMB is only valid for
thirty one days, which means it expires next week. If
I get pulled over with expired registration, that could cause
serious problems, especially because I'm applying to work in law enforcement.
I've completely dropped the idea of moving to their city
and will not be continuing the interview process for that job.
(40:39):
I also know that I need to get a new
car as soon as possible. I'm going to start saving,
and when my girlfriend comes to visit at the end
of April, I'll ask her to drive the gifted car back.
Hopefully by then I'll have another car lined up. Looking back,
I felt weird about the car from the moment they
gave it to me. I was excited and grateful, but
something in my gut told me there were strings. At time,
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hatched before the car, I didn't feel like I owed
them anything or that they were entitled to details about
my life. Now I feel like they use it as
leverage to monitor me. I know I need to talk
to my girlfriend about this, but I want to approach
it in a way that isn't judgmental, just honest about
how I feel. We generally have good communication, but I'm
worried about how she'll react given her response to my
(41:22):
last call. To also address the comments about the timeline
for when my girlfriend will be financially free from them,
I think it will be a very long time. They
have given her everything she's wanted and needed her whole life.
She doesn't have to work.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, I was about to say a very long time.
You know, what's a really long time?
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Forever?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Forever?
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Forever is a long long time.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I think, Yeah, she has these parents who are paying
for everything, who she thinks are controlling. But you know,
she's also not willing to give up that lifestyle. So
she's not going to stick up for you because she
doesn't want to lose all the money that she gets
from her parents.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, and that's your answer right there, that's your answer
for if do I stay or do I leave?
Speaker 2 (41:59):
You leave? She is only in the last few months
starting to realize that her parents are leveraging money to
control her and is starting to want to look for
jobs while going to school, which I'm very proud of
her for coming to the realization, as I know it
was not easy for her to do, but I honestly
think it maybe years before she actually stops being provided for.
(42:21):
I mean, I feel like whenever we hear about these
kids who grow up really, really rich, they don't just
want to leave that lifestyle. They like the lifestyle, they're
used to it.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
I hear it's pretty nice.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Does anyone have advice on how to navigate this conversation?
How do I explain everything in a way that she'll
understand without making her feel defensive? And there are some
relevant comments? What do you think they we're focusing on
the wrong thing here, dude. Yeah, I think parents are literally, like, uh,
controlling you.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Your parents conspired to maybe get you thrown in prison. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I don't think you should be with someone who does
not see that as an extreme issue, especially if you
all have been together for years at this point.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I mean, it would be one thing if your girlfriend's
parents were controlling car, because then it would be a
conversation where you say, hey, I've noticed that your parents really,
you know, don't let you do much and they have
a lot of you know, hold over everything that you
do in your life. That's something you should notice and
maybe separate from them.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
And her response is, I shut up, I don't want
to hear about that.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, but that's not even the only problem. The problem
is that they're also trying to control you, and that's
a step too far. Relevant comments the eight o five
chicken Lady, You need to give that car back, even
if it hurts you day to day. If it's not
registered in your name, it's not your car. That car
is nothing but a tracking device and maybe even a
way for them to try to gather intel on you
(43:50):
to use against you with your girlfriend. Same thing as
putting a rusty pocket knife in your luggage. Be glad
it wasn't substances. If you had been caught with that
little hawkknife at TSA, they'd make you throw it away,
but you might not be arrested. You would have been
immediately detained for substances, just saying. Kitty Book says, if
(44:10):
you didn't do laundry at a Laundrymatt, the parents set
you up. Do not go back to their house. If
you do, don't even bring a purse, and you don't
take anything from them. I'd give back the car as well.
That's some crap. Opie says, Yeah, I did the laundry
at my house. I truly feel like I cannot trust
them anymore and it's giving me anxiety. Lool and there
(44:32):
is an update. Ali says, they could also try to
get you arrested for theft if you don't return it
in a timely manner to them. Also true the car.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah, I would be extricating myself from this entire situation. Yeah,
I would be planning my exit.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to these stories.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
But here's three bits of ads from our sponsors that
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Speaker 2 (44:53):
Update two. I got my own car fixed and no
longer drive the one that was given to me. Good,
the same one involved in the initial situation. When I
finally told my girlfriend everything, she believed me and wanted
to get to the bottom of it. That's good. I
felt relieved. I'm relieved for you. Oh pee, Maybe we
can save this. Maybe we can say it hmmm over
(45:15):
under and they can save it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
I say, there's I take the under.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, blast, I just don't like I don't She didn't
see that at all?
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Well, how did a rusty knife fall into your luggage?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
You know, if you really love your parents, you're very
close to them, you don't want to believe the worst.
I also talked to a few of my child but friends,
people she's only meant once and who live out of state,
just to get some perspective. I was intentional about who
I chose to speak to. I picked people who do
not know her family, and knowing the information we talked
about would not change their dynamics because they don't know
(45:48):
each other. I still want to honor her and our relationship.
When I told her, though, she've lipped. She didn't speak
to me for a full day and said I had
betrayed her truth.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
There it is, there is, there's that under I was
talking about.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Then she told her dad that I thought her mom
planned the knife, which I never said. If anything, I've
always quietly believed it was her dad. This was a
much worse betrayal. She went to the source and finding
out that they hurt me so bad and I don't
think I will ever heal from it. We fought, eventually
talked it out and kept moving forward or try to.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
No. No.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Then about a month ago everything imploded.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
I think we're on the under the least surprising thing
of all time.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Her dad found out her mom was cheating. Dang, I
wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
That's why it imploded.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
The evidence seven back and fourth messages between her and
an old family friend catching up. That was it. Oh,
she she wasn't cheating, but it didn't matter, he spiraled.
It sounds like she wasn't cheating.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Well, this sounds like an upper class breakup. Well, my
girlfriend was home. He started screaming at her mom. It
got so intense that my girlfriend had to punt a
door open out of fear. The next day he punted
her mom out, cut off her phone service and all
her cards. She's a stay at a mom with no
personal finances. He left her with nothing. Yeah, so the
(47:13):
dad is a huge problem.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
No prenup apparently not.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
I think that. I mean that kind of makes sense
because I mean the mom did say something of it.
She was like, what you could have gotten in trouble?
A rusty knife. I'd never it's so dirty. But the dad, actually,
you're right. Yeah, the dad was the one who was like,
your door's unlocked. Uh, we like you could have gotten
you could have been arrested that. Yeah. Like, I think
(47:40):
he's the one who's been bringing up all these red flats.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
I gotta say, I think you're on to some there.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
My girlfriend came to stay with me after that, trying
to get space. He started blowing up her phone with
unhinged messages just because she set a boundary. Meanwhile, her
mom went back to the house while he was at
work to grab some of her things and found her
computer background changed to a picture of the man she
supposedly cheated with. When she walked into the bathroom, all
(48:08):
of her perfume bottles were smashed and shards of glass everywhere. Yikes,
that's scary.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
The sky sounds like a real peach cobbler.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
A week later, he invited her the mom out to dinner,
but only communicated through their son, saying things like tell
your mom to come to dinner. At dinner, he acted
like everything was normal, held her and made her think
things were mending. Then mid meal, he slid her an envelope.
Inside was a Mother's Day card from her own mom,
(48:40):
but written over the sweet note in thick black sharpie,
do not make a scene. We are getting a divorce
with his ring inside the envelope.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
That's so, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
They're out for dinner, and he goes, oh, here you go, love.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
Don't No.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
He definitely likes slit it, like, yeah, yeah, he's like.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
This guy is the most dramatic man ever to be, like,
don't make a scene.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
You're the one.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
You're the literally scene crafting the scene like you're a playwright. Yeah,
I want to give you an atomic wedgie.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
It was calculated, disturbing, cruel, and it was all done
with a smile on his face in front of their
kid man.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
I would have thrown hands at my dad for that.
I'm not even kidding. It would have been divorce.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, immediately bring it up. I'm making a scene.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
I would. I don't condone this.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Why did also you ruined my mother's card? Not cool?
Straight hook. Watching this unfold shattered something in me. I
watched my girlfriend's entire world collapse. She had always held
her dad in the highest regard and saw him as
someone who could do no wrong. But I thought, finally,
maybe now she'll see what I've been seeing all along,
(49:49):
because I never truly believed her mom planted the knife.
I always felt it was him. He's dangerously intelligent, and
that's what makes him so terrifying. His attacks are calculated
and psychological.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
I'm sorry, but I just feel like you could break
this guy just by being like, why does your hair
look like that today?
Speaker 4 (50:07):
And do you have well, like what just wrong?
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Just wrong?
Speaker 3 (50:11):
It just looks weird, completely shioble over something like that.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
But then, after two weeks of crying in my arms,
telling me how scared she was, she went back. And
the same night she got back, she said she had
a good talk with her dad and that they were good.
Now just like that.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Here comes the money.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, he said. She said, I'm so upset with you
for doing that to my mom, and he said, here's
two thousand dollars, and she said, I'm not that upset.
Speaker 4 (50:37):
And he said, here's five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
She's just nott hey after everything. Now her mom is
fully moved back in and they're all acting like none
of it ever happened. He divorced her. Here comes the money,
and my girlfriend is doing the same. She's given herself
no space to process. She's always been expected to be
everyone's rock, to hold it all together, and now she's
(50:59):
doing that again. Everything is fine.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
I would ten out of ten times be rather be
destitute with nothing than to be in this situation.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yeah, I'm so confused. I don't understand. I mean, I
understand that she's getting money and that's why she's stand
but uh oh, p don't don't put up with this please.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I don't throw around the P word a lot, but
this guy sounds like a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, I mean the dad does.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, like, actually that's psychopathic.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
It's I mean, OPI even called it out. I also
think that, you know, these are really rich people who
have no kind of no touch. They're very out of
touch with reality. And ope, you seem like a grounded person. Yeah,
you don't need to you don't need to stick around
these people.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
You can go find I think you can find a
much better situation. Yeah, and not to be I don't
want to cast a dispersion over all people who are wealthy,
which of course that's that would it could You can't
do that with any subset of any group of people ever,
of course, but a lot of people who are psychopaths
to sociopaths, do you know, they can be pretty wealthy.
(52:05):
And it's because when you have nothing preventing you from
literally just taking whatever you want without feeling anything bad
about it, you can tend to acquire quite a bit of.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Well, well yeah, I mean a lot of wealth comes
from exploitations, So you.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Have no qualms about exploiting people, you can make a
bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
I couldn't take it anymore. After being on the phone
with her and hearing her interact with her parents like
nothing happened, I finally told her the truth that she's
being manipulated, that it's hard to watch, that I will
never see her parents the same way again, that I
don't want a relationship with them moving forward, by the way,
I want a relationship with you guys, moving forward. And
(52:47):
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Speaker 6 (52:56):
Storytime Appa podcast, Appa Podcasts podcast one guy saying yip yip,
I would encourage your girlfriend to get herself out from
underneath the thumb of her father, and I would no
longer be in an intimate relationship with her because I
(53:18):
think it's just not a healthy situation.
Speaker 4 (53:22):
So you stretching.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
But folks, I think here we have a little bit left.
I don't know if you can stay in a relationship
with where your girlfriend just fundamentally doesn't recognize what her
parents are doing, especially her dad. I mean, they have
totally violated boundaries on your part. And so the fact
that you know it makes sense that she can't see
(53:43):
what they're doing to her. I think that's a lot
easier to, you know, to do. But the fact that
she is not willing to even notice what they're doing
to you is not okay. And you guys aren't in
a partnership and it's been three years and she doesn't recognize.
So yeah, it's not changed anytime soon, but there's a
little bit left. It hurt her deeply. She wants me
to be good with her family. I get it. They
(54:04):
mean everything to her, but I will never be good
with them. I'm still so angry for her because all
I see is how they use her manipulator and take
advantage of her loyalty and she doesn't see it. We
argued again. I'm exhausted. We're supposed to be moving abroad
together in two months, and yet we're both trying to
live in completely different realities. I love her, but this
(54:26):
is breaking me and relevant comments Dragon Seafruit says, your
relationship is over. Please take it out back and end
it already. Please take it out back and do an
old yeller on it. Watching this miserably play out isn't
fun for anyone. Opie says, I don't agree that our
relationship is over. We're really great in person, have been
(54:46):
doing long distance for a year, and for the most part,
have continued to push each other to grow and be
better versions of ourselves. We just need to learn how
to navigate her family dynamic in a way that I
get to keep my boundaries and she still gets to
feel connected to her family. Isn't gonna work. That's the
end of that story. Ope wrote all of that and
then was like, no, no, no, is it No, it's not over.
(55:08):
He's not over. It's over, girl. I'm sorry. It's okay
for it to be over. It's okay. Just because you
put three years in doesn't mean that you got to
put more is a sunk cost fallacies.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
Cost fallacies is quite a doozy.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
If she saw what her family was doing too, if
she recognized that, and if she put up boundaries with them,
different story. That is not the case. But that, unfortunately,
is the end of that story. Op did not learn
anything by the end of it.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Funny that it all started with her being like, I'm
jealous of my partner. How do I fix that? Well,
and then my partner's family are literally trying to control
my entire life. What do I do?
Speaker 3 (55:49):
They say the first stage to get to acceptance, you know,
it's denial, it's denial. She might be on the road.
Then that relationship is gone. Yeah, but that is the
end of that. It sure is a story, and I
believe the end of the episode.
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