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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Sam. This is John the og story
time podcast host. Oh yeah, we got some great stories
coming up. But before that, we got a teeny two
minute break from the sponsors that keep this show propped
up like a little house. Oh yeah, all right, So
this is part three of My husband has a secret
son from a past partner. Where we left office, Op's
husband got a Facebook message from her husband's past partner
(00:23):
one night stand that said, Hey, this five year old kid,
he's your son. Oops. Seems to want to go after
hubby for child support. Yep, And throughout the part one
part two, there's actually been really effective communication. OHP's like, oh,
I don't know how I feel about this, even discussing
maybe wanting to leave. But she had the conversation with
the husband. Seems like they're in a better spot. There
(00:45):
was some concern about overlap because the kid is five
and a half and the husband started dating six years ago. Tight,
it's tight, but it seems like everything's above board. Like
basically once he hooked up with her, that was like
the next day they had the civity. Yeah, so it
seems like everything's above board, but definitely tight timing. But John, Sam,
(01:05):
we got the next part of the story, So let's
dive in. Oh God. After a lot of soul searching
on David's part, this is Hubby's part, he came to
the conclusion that as much as it would be easier
to bury his head in the sand and pretend that
this never happened, Alex is his son. Again. Have we
done the paternity test? I don't know. If we know,
We're not sure, and at the very minimum, he needs
(01:26):
to make sure he is safe and he is happy.
If he does nothing, he will think about this every
single day for the rest of his life. And if
we do decide to have kids, they will be an
even bigger reminder of his other son. At one point,
it came out that he had said that he didn't
want to be involved initially, and it was because that
this is what he thought I wanted to hear mmmm,
(01:48):
and he had to pick between his son and his marriage.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He was choosing his marriage and hence the communication. Hens
the communication because her reaction to that she wanted the opfice.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
He was like, She's like, no, stand up, be a man. Yeah,
like I want I want to.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I want to see you be be an active follow
like I thought I want from you, and he was like,
I was only saying that because I thought that's what
he wanted to commute communication. We all wanted the same thing.
At the end, this could have burned down, Yes, if
the strong communication was not dead.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, that he didn't really know if he could move
forward if it actually came to that. From my side
of things, what I wanted was for him to make
his decision independent of what I thought and wanted, because ultimately,
if something happened to me, he would still have to
deal with the consequences of partaking in his son's life
and he can't undertake something of that magnitude just for me.
The truth of the matter is, though that I know
(02:42):
my husband very well. At the end of the day,
he wouldn't have been able to live with himself if
he ignored the situation. Also, if you're new here, there
are multiple parts of the story, so make sure to
follow us on the iHeart app or Apple podcasts. Let's
get back to the story. So, when it came down
to it, the reason I was having such an issue
with things is because I am not a person. Oh
p he said earlier, He's not even sure he wanted kids,
(03:03):
not sure they were discussed, you know, like, oh, maybe
we have two kids or blah blahlah blah. Yeah, but
when it came to it and she saw there was
a kid that Ope's husband could be involved with it,
She's like, wait, I don't know if I want that.
That makes it real.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And she she was essentially infertile, like you said earlier.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
So it's like, I can totally see how you're totally
not mentally prepared for it. I couldn't. I couldn't even
have kids if I if I wanted two potentially. Yeah,
So she goes on to say, kids scare the crap
out of me, and I have a hard time relating
to them. I love kids. I think they're super cute
and watching them just get something is amazing, and they
bring a lot of joy to your life. It is
(03:40):
so insanely cool seeing them become their own person. But oh,
kids don't like me very much, likely because I become
super nervous around them. Also, the amount of pressure and
responsibility when responsible for another human being, making sure that
they grow up happy and become productive members of society, heck,
even making sure they stay alive. It's overwhelming, that is true.
(04:02):
I don't know how parents get up in the morning.
But at the end of the day, as I said before,
David is my person and we'll get through this together
if it comes to that. More below. Being parent to
a five year old will be a learning curve for
both of us, But I will be the best step
parent that I can be, and he will feel nothing
but love from both of us. If we have other
(04:24):
kids in the future, Alex will be treated the exact
same way. That was the emotional stuff. Now onto the practical.
We had a home DNA test, all right, drum roll,
and it was confirmed that my husband is the father.
(04:44):
Oh man, he is daddy, dude. I mean, we're not surprised.
He looks exactly like it. It's real. Not that there
was any doubt in my mind. The situation is even
more messed up than I thought though. Oh. Jessica, the
mother and David spoke on the phone and she told
him a few things that we're concerning. What Alex the
(05:07):
son is currently living with his father, Sam. I guess
a stepfather would be more appropriate, but keep reading. From
what we can guess, he's been living there since twenty thirteen.
And this raised a bunch of red flags. So I
think the father took custody because Jessica is so unstable. Oh,
(05:29):
the father's name is Sam. My name is Sam. No relation,
no correlation, no relation. I promise this is not about me.
Children's Aid wouldn't place a child with someone they believe
is abusive, and even more telling, they tend to favor
the mother. So this is weird. It's a basic age.
They gave it with a dad, and so the mother
has to be doing something really fed up if they're
(05:51):
putting it full custody with Costy was a dad. Yeah,
because of a complaint that Jessica Lodge. In twenty thirteen,
Sam was charged for hurting Alex, but he was acquitted.
He says. In twenty thirteen she voluntarily placed Sam in
foster care because she kept passing out and thought it
was dangerous as it would mean Alex was alone.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I don't know how this works, but I have a
hard time believing that there are no resources available for
this situation. Children's Aid is on Sam's side, and in
the files she is not portrayed in a good light
at all. She did not realize that David had moved
eight hours away. She assumed we were still in the
same city. She has another court case soon regarding custody. Also,
if you're new here multiple parts of the story, make
(06:31):
sure to follow us on iHeart Apple Podcasts. But let's
get back to the story. So Sam knows that Alex
is not his son. So Sam is is the is
the guy that was with Jessica the mother and then
kind of took on a paternal role for this kid
that's not actually his kid.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, and we at first it was unclear if Sam
even knew, yeah, you know, or for Jessica.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But yeah, but is in denial and thinks that the
DNA test is wrong since it is is a home test.
He wants to keep full custody of his son, and
he's been raising the kid for five years.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, he's dad. He's like listening, kid knows him as dad. Yeah,
if you're if you're raising a kid for five and
a half years, that's kind of traumatic if if a
kid is just pulled away in place with someone else,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, exactly. He wants to keep full custody of his son.
Jessica wants to have full custody of her son and
is hoping that by throwing bio Dad into the mix,
the courts will take Alex away from Sam and award
him to her. So now now we see the play. Yeah,
this is where that because at first, like what what
(07:42):
are the her motives? Is it money? Is it like whatever?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So she's she's kind of using Op and her husband
as pawns to try and get full custody.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And again, if the son was taken away, if Alex
was taken away from Jessica, and then Jessica was probably
doing something pretty bad for the court to favor custody
to the father.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And also pretty honestly kind of crazy and just long
shot of a plan to be like, oh hey, let
me hit up this guy had a one night stand
with five and a half years ago and see if
I can like use him.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's been fag it to like, what do you think
is going to happen? Yeah, I mean I think she's
closer to getting her way than she was initially. You
know what, I guess, I guess probably. I mean also,
I think at this point, if I'm if I'm Op
and Op's husband, I'm like, what is the best outcome
for this kid? You know? Yeah? And I'm like, yes,
(08:36):
I feel like the kid staying with the dad. You
know that the dad that's been raising him in Sam. Yeah,
is probably the best.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Boo.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Have the kids stay, stay with Sam, and then maybe
you get visitation and visitation.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Child support exactly. I think that's the best. Rest Like, hey,
let me help ease the financial burden. Let me you know, hey,
you need a babysitter, you know. So I'm like that, like,
figure out some sort of visitation and yeah, it gonna
be like a two and a half men situation. You know,
you got your two dads and they love each other
very much and love you very much. There you go,
and that we can have visitation or probably more accurately,
(09:13):
pay supports and stay away.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, it's a crap show and I feel like I'm
living in a soap opera. David asks that the children's
aid and the court papers be sent to him so
he could formulate a plan based on what we know,
which admittedly isn't much. It seems as though Sam is
a good father. Okay. There are tons of Facebook posts
of Alex building a snow ford, Alex swimming in lakes
with his dad, Alex dressing up as Batman, just normal
(09:38):
stuff you expect to see from a proud father. Jessica
not so much. Honestly, she looks high in most photos.
Based on the reason as to why she gave him
up temporarily, the photos and the fact that he isn't
living with her, I'm assuming she is a regular substance user,
but I'm just guessing. David ultimately wants what it is
(09:59):
best for us, and if it means having him with
us full time, so be it. But right now it
seems horrible. This is kind of what we said to
pull a five year old from the only home he
really knows because of DNA. So we are waiting for
the files and we'll be talking to the caseworker to
see if our impression is right. We don't trust Jessica
at all, yeah, as you shouldn't, so she is not
(10:21):
an option. If it turns out that there are issues
with Sam, we will fight for custody. If Alex is happy,
well adjusted, and Sam is a good dad like we believe.
After due diligence, in a conversation with Sam to see
how he feels and if he is okay with everything,
Dave will be signing away his rights and give Sam
his medical and contact information in case it is needed.
(10:42):
He also had the idea to write a letter to
Alex explaining his actions that he found out about him
at five, but it seemed like he had a good
home and a great dad and felt like what he
is doing was in his best interest, but that he
loves him and is there for him, and he can
reach out if and when he is ready, that Sam
can give to Alex when he is older, if he
wants to. I think that's really really I think that's
(11:05):
a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, this this, this is the way, this is, This
is the way.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean a hard situation, yeah, really really hard, But
I feel like again at every moment here, it feels
like they've been doing what's best for each other and
best for the kid.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah yeah, but do the the Just imagine the gut
wrenching jolts of going from like okay, do we do
we want to have this kid and like raising like
oh not sure?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Is this gonna blow up my life?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Like all right, I've they kind of like mentally like
all right, we're prepared if this is the case to
take the kid in, to take the get in and
then it's like no, like you you might not get
any access to the what a.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
What a roller coaster. Roller coaster. Of course, it will
ultimately be Sam's decision as to whether or not he
wants to tell Alex about his bio. Dad. I'm not
sure if this is the right thing, but it seems
horrible to make a five year old go live with
complete strain just eight hours away from mom and dad
if it can be helped. So Sam is the one
(12:04):
that has been playing with him and taking care of
him when he is sick. Sam is his dad. We
have a big battle ahead of ourselves, though. I don't
really have any questions, but if anyone has any advice
on navigating this opinions, et cetera. Well, this is the internet,
so how about it? And we got some edits, oh
but and some updates from Ope. But but John, any
(12:26):
more thoughts on it before we get into the edis
and the updates.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I mean again, it's definitely the move to keep
it with with with Sam, the dad that's been raising
raising this child the whole time. I think, honestly, what
could be good and they kind of essentially said this
but is to sit down with Sam and be like,
how can we be helpful?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Like what what is useful? Can they provide praternity support
to or can they provide child support just to like
help improve the kid's life about yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Know money, I mean, how is more money? I'm and
they say more money, more problems. But like I feel
like them obviously contributing financially will be helpful. And then
I'm sure there's probably ways. And if they come to
Sam too with that, like hey, what do you need
help with, I'm sure that's going to foster like a
really good relationship with them, and then that will you know,
(13:19):
probably give them more access to DM.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Maybe it's like saving for college fund or something like that,
like whatever it maybe yeah, but we got an edit
it's update. So we were exploring the possibility of setting
up a trust okay, dude, which we will contribute to
for when he turns twenty one or so. Regardless of
how this plays out, I should have mentioned it in
the letter. We got some relevant comments with some responses
(13:43):
from Ope, so on my inbox, I always says, well,
given that we have heard about Jessica, I don't know
that Sam's so weird for distrusting the at home paternity test.
It's easy enough to get fake negative results if you
swap the swab for someone else's. That's why the court
will only accept official test. If she is just trying
to get Sam to back off so she can regain custody,
(14:04):
would be in her interest to fake a negative result,
hoping just the knowledge he is not the biofather, we'll
get him to abandon the child and op He responds, rap,
I had never thought of that. As things progress, we
will need to do the legal one. But still I
wouldn't put it past her. There's no doubt in my
mind that Hubby is the biological father. Dates match up perfectly,
(14:25):
and he is pretty much my hubby's clone. It looks
nothing like Sam. But from his perspective, I can see
why he would think that. And zombies and pandas Ohmi says,
I mean, how did the home test happen? He did
she have any chance to mess with it? And OPI responds,
I don't know how she would have to be honest
when I said home tests, I really should have said,
this is not a DNA test that we can legally
(14:47):
submit to court. We were both sent kits via mail
at our homes, and we both sent cheek swabs to
a lab. I'm not sure how it could have been
faked unless David has another bio kid running around somewhere
in Jessica that this kid's swab instead of Alex's. But
I'm more sympathetic as to why Sam is saying that
it's not accurate. As another post mentioned, it's likely that
(15:08):
deep down he's known for a bit but does not
care since he's raised him from birth. And so we
actually have another commentor in a response from Ope, hmmm,
oh that I think will shed more light on what's
going on here. It is and a commenter talks about
being a father. It's just not about DNA. It's actually
like about you know, the relationship you have with a kid.
And Ope response, it's denial and I get it. He's
(15:31):
gone this long thinking Alex's son. My only fear is
that if it is ever legally confirmed, I would hope
it wouldn't change his feelings. But one step at a time, right,
I know people get acquitted of things that they are
guilty of. I just don't know what the right thing
to do here is. We are trying to corroborate the
story with the paperwork, the casework and other people who
(15:52):
know him, and at a certain point of children's aid is
still involved, but believe the assault complaint is unfounded and
the courts believe he was not guilty. You want to
believe that they are right. On the other hand, although
the mother is unreliable, that doesn't mean he is lying.
I think the letter is just to make my husband
feel better because it ultimately is Sam's choice as to
whether he wants to say something to Alex later on,
(16:14):
and if he decides not to, it's his prerogative. David's
fear is that Alex will find out later on and
will think that he didn't want anything to do with him,
when the reality is that he just doesn't want to
make things harder for him. I mean, if Sam is
cool with David having a relationship with Alex at this point,
David love that, but since his denial goes very deep,
(16:35):
he just can't see Sam being okay with that at
this point. Things change, though, and who knows how this
will pay out. We got one more comment from someone,
Lizzie sixty sxo' nine two that says, just so you
know that even a legal DNA test may not have
any sort of impact on custody in many states, particularly
ones where there is a presumption of paternity associated with marriage.
(16:57):
If you act as the father for a certain amount
of time, I'm usually well under five years, I believe
that you are legally the father. Your husband may not
have any sort of claim to Alex at all at
that point.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Which but like, if you think about it, right, it's
like what we've been saying this whole time. This kid
has been raised by this guy for over five years,
so it's like way more destructive to like rip him
exactly versus like, oh, hey, here's.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
A stranger that like and the kid can't even understand. No. No,
I think it's best for the kid, Alex to stay
with the current father. Sam. Yeah, but that's where that
story ends.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, there no more the kid. This was nine years ago,
so the kid's probably like fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh wow, wow, dude, that's so true. I wonder, I
wonder how it all struck out. Hope he's okay, Yeah,
I hope he's okay. Hey, it's sam' your og host here.
Bring to get back to the stories. But here's three
minutes bads from our sponsors. I met my biological father
without my parents consent. I think that's fine. Keep it
a little bit fa editor.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I recently turned eighteen, giving me the legal right to
be able to get in contact with my father, who
is the baby juice stoner. I was conceived through a
baby juice donation.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I love it. I have known this bar rest of
my life.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I have wanted to know since the age of thirteen
that I was gonna want to make a relationship with
my father, the biological one.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
By the way, this comes from Donderson and if you
want to submit your own stories, go to the r
slash okay storytime subreddit. However, my parents have always been
against this. They've given reasons which are valid points, like
my father might not want to meet me and I
could ruin his life somehow.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
That is crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, I mean I could
say like, hey, like it's awesome you want to meet
your father. Sometimes like they may not, you know, they
may not want to meet you. Or often people who
donate that that baby jews sign a thing that it's like,
oh I don't want contact that I don't want them
to release my name or yeah. So yeah, so that
(19:03):
is you know, because some people are are squeezing that juice,
like you know, once a week people full time. Yeah,
people make a living squeeze and baby juice out of themselves,
just squaanching it. Yeah, dude, I remember in college I
would get ads for that non stop, and.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Bro, that would have been that. That seem the appreciation
appreciation seed.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Oh dude, it's going through the roof, insanity going through
the roof. I talked to my mom about her. She's like,
don't do that. I'm like, Mom, a thousand bucks, dude,
a thousand bucks back in college. Like, yeah, forge dude
for doing something I was doing already. Yeah, I'm doing
this for free. Yeah that's passive income. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But despite my parents unsupportiveness, I went and did it anyways.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
And I found him on Facebook. Oh god.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Of course I was thinking that anything could happen. But
he was the nicest people. He was one of the
nicest people ever and proved to me how much I
want to have a good relationship with them. To cut
a long story short, we decided on a place in
time to meet each other, and we did. I was
able to go back to his house. I met his family,
his wife, kid's brother.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh my god. This guy totally opened up his life
to toe pie.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, absolutely, and has other kids of his own and everything.
It's like, Yo, these are your literal biological half siblings.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Wow, this is he has a whole new family. Right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
He did have a sister, but I didn't get to
meet her on that occasion. Once I got home, my
parents sat down at the dinner table and were waiting
for me in silence, in an extremely intimidating manner.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh how do they know? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
But I'm also getting from the first comment about ruining
the life in this to kind of whack.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
You asked, how they know? Dude, they got bugs in
their head. They put it like a you know, a
chip in their head. They know where they're at all
the time.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Facebook. Yeah, Facebook monitoring could have Yeah the past. We're
pretty sure my parents had an app install on my
phone that they could read all my texts because they
knew stuff. Oh like, how do you know that? Dude?
I'm pretty sure I would have been mortified. Yeah, dude,
I'm pretty sure. I feel like they only took it
off like last year. Like I feel like I'm pretty
(21:16):
sure that I don't know how that. Maybe last year's
too much like all those positive.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So but back to the story, Opie says, they asked
the casual where have you been and what time did
you call us? Something was fishy from the start, and
my suspicions were proved to be correct when my dad
said he.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Knew where I had been.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
This continued on for a few weeks where I would
spend time with him, and I even introduced him to
my girlfriend and her dog as the only people that
really supported me through this.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Bro, even the dog is a better parent than his
current parents. Right now, Hey, dude, dog's man's best friend.
Bow wow, bow wow.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
My parents' behavior has become increasingly aggressive towards me and
people close to us.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It's really making me question what I've done here? Was
I the a whole?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And we have some relevant comments, but just really quickly, Sam,
is Obi the a hole?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Not at all. I think what's happening is the parents.
You know, uh what they did? It was IVF for
like baby juice donor Yeah. I imagine there's maybe some
misplaced insecurity there in the parents being like, oh, like
Op is gonna leave us for his is real dad,
(22:28):
but like maybe don't be crap parents and OP won't
do that, dude.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, just like like I totally again, totally gets saying, hey, uh,
you know, maybe he might not want to meet you,
so just prepare yourself emotionally for that. But this is
totally different, whack. But we got some relevant comments. First one,
how did you find him? Baby's donors are assigned numbers?
Opie says his name was on my birth certificate, so
(22:53):
I found him that way.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's weird. That is not normal. That is weird. I've
never heard that happening.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Another comment, was there some sort of arrangement If his
name is on the birth certificate, then technically.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He is a legal parent. Ope, he says.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
In terms of arrangements, I'm not really sure why he
was on the birth certificate. It's possible that he was
in something like that, which would explain why he was
happy when I reached out to him, basically like he
wanted to see him, but he had an agreement to
not you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And we have the update. Oh boy, let's find out Okay,
I'm I'm on the edge of my seat, oh God,
to update on the situation.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
As I mentioned to a reply in a comment, this
man was on my birth certificate and I was told
by you guys to sit them down and have a
conversation about all this.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So I did after my mother returned home from work.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I gathered everyone in the lounge with my bio dad
on zoom and asked why he was on the birth certificate.
And here is the story, okay, or getting the truth.
Biodad met my mom five years before I was born
and had a relationship going on for that entire time.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Ooh baby, for that entire time.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
However, I feel like I should have mentioned this before,
but my parents now have been together for just over
thirty years, so.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
You do the math. There was some meat in the middle,
me in the middle, and some baby just sweezed out
of that meat, So that means affair. My mother was
having an affair boom for five years. Dude, that's a while.
It's a full election cycle. Oh yeah, for real and
(24:34):
more and more.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But in that time that they had been seeing each other,
my mother became pregnant with me. My non biological dad
is actually infertile, something I didn't know about until now.
No way, so when we found out my mother was pregnant,
he reacted in a different way.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
He was happy for her. Man Man is a cult.
He likes sit in that chair watching oh, he's he's thrilled.
Oh my god. Not only is it his deepest, darkest fantasy,
but now he has a kid.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Now he's a kid, and she win, Oh my god,
and is living the dream.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So she said she didn't want a divorce, but was
willing to keep the baby with him.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
He said yes.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
He's like, yeah, bro, I do it again, as they
had been having They had been trying to have a
child for eleven and a half years with zero luck.
Like no, no, miscarriage is nothing, shooting him blanks.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
For over a decade, hitting a raw bro eleven and
a half, they say, like, insanity is doing something over
and over again expecting different results eleven years.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Like he's gone so insane that he's like, bro, you've
been You've been porking my wife for five years.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Amazing. Yeah, he's like, oh my god, I thought I
was gonna have to do that crap for another Thank
you for taking this is the this is a miracle.
I've been I've been sweating my guy. These old bones,
they you know, they don't work like they used to.
This old bone doesn't work like it used to.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
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So the reason why bio dad was named on the
birth certificate was because they had an arrangement together that
he would forget lot god no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
They had an arrangement together that he would be present
at the birth, at the bird the same thing.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He would be present without the dad that raised me
being there, so he would be named on the birth certificate,
and at eighteen, I would be encouraged to meet him
and told this story. So only half of that happened exactly,
Opie's now he the parents not only did they not
tell him the story and say hey, actively discour they
(27:04):
actively tried to lock him down and punish him crazy.
So in return, he would tell no one about them
and would give them monthly payments as well as staying
far away from her forever. WHOA, wow, that's a crazy deal.
I mean it wasn't affair.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, because like the mom had the affair and now
she's getting money from it.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Dude, I mean yeah, but I guess, I guess it's
like you have to stay away from from obviously her
and the kid for eighteen years.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Wow. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So he upheld his end, but she didn't do the same,
which disappointed my biodad but made him very glad that
I ended up contacting him.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
The long story short.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
If any of you couldn't be bothered to read that
mother had an affair, parents kept me my biodad was
a guy who you know, cheated. The biodad got on
the certificate, got to meet me in eighteen and I
would be told a story. I in no way will
be disowning my current father. He has been the father
figure that I needed in my life so many times
(28:02):
that I just couldn't even if I wanted to. I
will continue to see my bio dad and keep you
updated on the progress if you guys want to be
speaking of which we have edit number two. Oh okay,
So basically, the entire baby juice donor thing just happened
to be the very first thing they thought of at
the time, and they just let me believe their lie.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, so this is just this is the origin of
the baby juice story. But that's the end of the story. Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So we got to the truth and uh, you know,
all's well that ends well, I guess, I mean two dads,
I guess, and uh, you know, a fair dad seems
kind of chill.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Dude. He's crushing it now, he's crushing it now, was
crushing your mom earlier. Bro. But it's so true, so true.
But it seems like it seems like he's a welcoming,
cool guy. You know, I think I think I had
a share, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, oh boy, oh god.
It ended up best for op in the which is
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this is part three of My husband has a secret
son from a past partner. Where we left office, Op's
husband got a Facebook message from her husband's past partner
(00:23):
one night stand that said, Hey, this five year old kid,
he's your son. Oops. Seems to want to go after
hubby for child support. Yep, And throughout the part one
part two, there's actually been really effective communication. OHP's like, oh,
I don't know how I feel about this, even discussing
maybe wanting to leave. But she had the conversation with
the husband. Seems like they're in a better spot. There
(00:45):
was some concern about overlap because the kid is five
and a half and the husband started dating six years ago. Tight,
it's tight, but it seems like everything's above board. Like
basically once he hooked up with her, that was like
the next day they had the civity. Yeah, so it
seems like everything's above board, but definitely tight timing. But John, Sam,
(01:05):
we got the next part of the story, So let's
dive in. Oh God. After a lot of soul searching
on David's part, this is Hubby's part, he came to
the conclusion that as much as it would be easier
to bury his head in the sand and pretend that
this never happened, Alex is his son. Again. Have we
done the paternity test? I don't know. If we know,
We're not sure, and at the very minimum, he needs
(01:26):
to make sure he is safe and he is happy.
If he does nothing, he will think about this every
single day for the rest of his life. And if
we do decide to have kids, they will be an
even bigger reminder of his other son. At one point,
it came out that he had said that he didn't
want to be involved initially, and it was because that
this is what he thought I wanted to hear mmmm,
(01:48):
and he had to pick between his son and his marriage.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He was choosing his marriage and hence the communication. Hens
the communication because her reaction to that she wanted the opfice.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
He was like, She's like, no, stand up, be a man. Yeah,
like I want I want to.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I want to see you be be an active follow
like I thought I want from you, and he was like,
I was only saying that because I thought that's what
he wanted to commute communication. We all wanted the same thing.
At the end, this could have burned down, Yes, if
the strong communication was not dead.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, that he didn't really know if he could move
forward if it actually came to that. From my side
of things, what I wanted was for him to make
his decision independent of what I thought and wanted, because ultimately,
if something happened to me, he would still have to
deal with the consequences of partaking in his son's life
and he can't undertake something of that magnitude just for me.
The truth of the matter is, though that I know
(02:42):
my husband very well. At the end of the day,
he wouldn't have been able to live with himself if
he ignored the situation. Also, if you're new here, there
are multiple parts of the story, so make sure to
follow us on the iHeart app or Apple podcasts. Let's
get back to the story. So, when it came down
to it, the reason I was having such an issue
with things is because I am not a person. Oh
p he said earlier, He's not even sure he wanted kids,
(03:03):
not sure they were discussed, you know, like, oh, maybe
we have two kids or blah blahlah blah. Yeah, but
when it came to it and she saw there was
a kid that Ope's husband could be involved with it,
She's like, wait, I don't know if I want that.
That makes it real.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And she she was essentially infertile, like you said earlier.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
So it's like, I can totally see how you're totally
not mentally prepared for it. I couldn't. I couldn't even
have kids if I if I wanted two potentially. Yeah,
So she goes on to say, kids scare the crap
out of me, and I have a hard time relating
to them. I love kids. I think they're super cute
and watching them just get something is amazing, and they
bring a lot of joy to your life. It is
(03:40):
so insanely cool seeing them become their own person. But oh,
kids don't like me very much, likely because I become
super nervous around them. Also, the amount of pressure and
responsibility when responsible for another human being, making sure that
they grow up happy and become productive members of society, heck,
even making sure they stay alive. It's overwhelming, that is true.
(04:02):
I don't know how parents get up in the morning.
But at the end of the day, as I said before,
David is my person and we'll get through this together
if it comes to that. More below. Being parent to
a five year old will be a learning curve for
both of us, But I will be the best step
parent that I can be, and he will feel nothing
but love from both of us. If we have other
(04:24):
kids in the future, Alex will be treated the exact
same way. That was the emotional stuff. Now onto the practical.
We had a home DNA test, all right, drum roll,
and it was confirmed that my husband is the father.
(04:44):
Oh man, he is daddy, dude. I mean, we're not surprised.
He looks exactly like it. It's real. Not that there
was any doubt in my mind. The situation is even
more messed up than I thought though. Oh. Jessica, the
mother and David spoke on the phone and she told
him a few things that we're concerning. What Alex the
(05:07):
son is currently living with his father, Sam. I guess
a stepfather would be more appropriate, but keep reading. From
what we can guess, he's been living there since twenty thirteen.
And this raised a bunch of red flags. So I
think the father took custody because Jessica is so unstable. Oh,
(05:29):
the father's name is Sam. My name is Sam. No relation,
no correlation, no relation. I promise this is not about me.
Children's Aid wouldn't place a child with someone they believe
is abusive, and even more telling, they tend to favor
the mother. So this is weird. It's a basic age.
They gave it with a dad, and so the mother
has to be doing something really fed up if they're
(05:51):
putting it full custody with Costy was a dad. Yeah,
because of a complaint that Jessica Lodge. In twenty thirteen,
Sam was charged for hurting Alex, but he was acquitted.
He says. In twenty thirteen she voluntarily placed Sam in
foster care because she kept passing out and thought it
was dangerous as it would mean Alex was alone.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I don't know how this works, but I have a
hard time believing that there are no resources available for
this situation. Children's Aid is on Sam's side, and in
the files she is not portrayed in a good light
at all. She did not realize that David had moved
eight hours away. She assumed we were still in the
same city. She has another court case soon regarding custody. Also,
if you're new here multiple parts of the story, make
(06:31):
sure to follow us on iHeart Apple Podcasts. But let's
get back to the story. So Sam knows that Alex
is not his son. So Sam is is the is
the guy that was with Jessica the mother and then
kind of took on a paternal role for this kid
that's not actually his kid.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, and we at first it was unclear if Sam
even knew, yeah, you know, or for Jessica.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
But yeah, but is in denial and thinks that the
DNA test is wrong since it is is a home test.
He wants to keep full custody of his son, and
he's been raising the kid for five years.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, he's dad. He's like listening, kid knows him as dad. Yeah,
if you're if you're raising a kid for five and
a half years, that's kind of traumatic if if a
kid is just pulled away in place with someone else,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, exactly. He wants to keep full custody of his son.
Jessica wants to have full custody of her son and
is hoping that by throwing bio Dad into the mix,
the courts will take Alex away from Sam and award
him to her. So now now we see the play. Yeah,
this is where that because at first, like what what
(07:42):
are the her motives? Is it money? Is it like whatever?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So she's she's kind of using Op and her husband
as pawns to try and get full custody.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And again, if the son was taken away, if Alex
was taken away from Jessica, and then Jessica was probably
doing something pretty bad for the court to favor custody
to the father.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And also pretty honestly kind of crazy and just long
shot of a plan to be like, oh hey, let
me hit up this guy had a one night stand
with five and a half years ago and see if
I can like use him.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's been fag it to like, what do you think
is going to happen? Yeah, I mean I think she's
closer to getting her way than she was initially. You
know what, I guess, I guess probably. I mean also,
I think at this point, if I'm if I'm Op
and Op's husband, I'm like, what is the best outcome
for this kid? You know? Yeah? And I'm like, yes,
(08:36):
I feel like the kid staying with the dad. You
know that the dad that's been raising him in Sam. Yeah,
is probably the best.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Boo.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Have the kids stay, stay with Sam, and then maybe
you get visitation and visitation.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Child support exactly. I think that's the best. Rest Like, hey,
let me help ease the financial burden. Let me you know, hey,
you need a babysitter, you know. So I'm like that, like,
figure out some sort of visitation and yeah, it gonna
be like a two and a half men situation. You know,
you got your two dads and they love each other
very much and love you very much. There you go,
and that we can have visitation or probably more accurately,
(09:13):
pay supports and stay away.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, it's a crap show and I feel like I'm
living in a soap opera. David asks that the children's
aid and the court papers be sent to him so
he could formulate a plan based on what we know,
which admittedly isn't much. It seems as though Sam is
a good father. Okay. There are tons of Facebook posts
of Alex building a snow ford, Alex swimming in lakes
with his dad, Alex dressing up as Batman, just normal
(09:38):
stuff you expect to see from a proud father. Jessica
not so much. Honestly, she looks high in most photos.
Based on the reason as to why she gave him
up temporarily, the photos and the fact that he isn't
living with her, I'm assuming she is a regular substance user,
but I'm just guessing. David ultimately wants what it is
(09:59):
best for us, and if it means having him with
us full time, so be it. But right now it
seems horrible. This is kind of what we said to
pull a five year old from the only home he
really knows because of DNA. So we are waiting for
the files and we'll be talking to the caseworker to
see if our impression is right. We don't trust Jessica
at all, yeah, as you shouldn't, so she is not
(10:21):
an option. If it turns out that there are issues
with Sam, we will fight for custody. If Alex is happy,
well adjusted, and Sam is a good dad like we believe.
After due diligence, in a conversation with Sam to see
how he feels and if he is okay with everything,
Dave will be signing away his rights and give Sam
his medical and contact information in case it is needed.
(10:42):
He also had the idea to write a letter to
Alex explaining his actions that he found out about him
at five, but it seemed like he had a good
home and a great dad and felt like what he
is doing was in his best interest, but that he
loves him and is there for him, and he can
reach out if and when he is ready, that Sam
can give to Alex when he is older, if he
wants to. I think that's really really I think that's
(11:05):
a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, this this, this is the way, this is, This
is the way.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean a hard situation, yeah, really really hard, But
I feel like again at every moment here, it feels
like they've been doing what's best for each other and
best for the kid.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah yeah, but do the the Just imagine the gut
wrenching jolts of going from like okay, do we do
we want to have this kid and like raising like
oh not sure?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Is this gonna blow up my life?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Like all right, I've they kind of like mentally like
all right, we're prepared if this is the case to
take the kid in, to take the get in and
then it's like no, like you you might not get
any access to the what a.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
What a roller coaster. Roller coaster. Of course, it will
ultimately be Sam's decision as to whether or not he
wants to tell Alex about his bio. Dad. I'm not
sure if this is the right thing, but it seems
horrible to make a five year old go live with
complete strain just eight hours away from mom and dad
if it can be helped. So Sam is the one
(12:04):
that has been playing with him and taking care of
him when he is sick. Sam is his dad. We
have a big battle ahead of ourselves, though. I don't
really have any questions, but if anyone has any advice
on navigating this opinions, et cetera. Well, this is the internet,
so how about it? And we got some edits, oh
but and some updates from Ope. But but John, any
(12:26):
more thoughts on it before we get into the edis
and the updates.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I mean again, it's definitely the move to keep
it with with with Sam, the dad that's been raising
raising this child the whole time. I think, honestly, what
could be good and they kind of essentially said this
but is to sit down with Sam and be like,
how can we be helpful?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Like what what is useful? Can they provide praternity support
to or can they provide child support just to like
help improve the kid's life about yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Know money, I mean, how is more money? I'm and
they say more money, more problems. But like I feel
like them obviously contributing financially will be helpful. And then
I'm sure there's probably ways. And if they come to
Sam too with that, like hey, what do you need
help with, I'm sure that's going to foster like a
really good relationship with them, and then that will you know,
(13:19):
probably give them more access to DM.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Maybe it's like saving for college fund or something like that,
like whatever it maybe yeah, but we got an edit
it's update. So we were exploring the possibility of setting
up a trust okay, dude, which we will contribute to
for when he turns twenty one or so. Regardless of
how this plays out, I should have mentioned it in
the letter. We got some relevant comments with some responses
(13:43):
from Ope, so on my inbox, I always says, well,
given that we have heard about Jessica, I don't know
that Sam's so weird for distrusting the at home paternity test.
It's easy enough to get fake negative results if you
swap the swab for someone else's. That's why the court
will only accept official test. If she is just trying
to get Sam to back off so she can regain custody,
(14:04):
would be in her interest to fake a negative result,
hoping just the knowledge he is not the biofather, we'll
get him to abandon the child and op He responds, rap,
I had never thought of that. As things progress, we
will need to do the legal one. But still I
wouldn't put it past her. There's no doubt in my
mind that Hubby is the biological father. Dates match up perfectly,
(14:25):
and he is pretty much my hubby's clone. It looks
nothing like Sam. But from his perspective, I can see
why he would think that. And zombies and pandas Ohmi says,
I mean, how did the home test happen? He did
she have any chance to mess with it? And OPI responds,
I don't know how she would have to be honest
when I said home tests, I really should have said,
this is not a DNA test that we can legally
(14:47):
submit to court. We were both sent kits via mail
at our homes, and we both sent cheek swabs to
a lab. I'm not sure how it could have been
faked unless David has another bio kid running around somewhere
in Jessica that this kid's swab instead of Alex's. But
I'm more sympathetic as to why Sam is saying that
it's not accurate. As another post mentioned, it's likely that
(15:08):
deep down he's known for a bit but does not
care since he's raised him from birth. And so we
actually have another commentor in a response from Ope, hmmm,
oh that I think will shed more light on what's
going on here. It is and a commenter talks about
being a father. It's just not about DNA. It's actually
like about you know, the relationship you have with a kid.
And Ope response, it's denial and I get it. He's
(15:31):
gone this long thinking Alex's son. My only fear is
that if it is ever legally confirmed, I would hope
it wouldn't change his feelings. But one step at a time, right,
I know people get acquitted of things that they are
guilty of. I just don't know what the right thing
to do here is. We are trying to corroborate the
story with the paperwork, the casework and other people who
(15:52):
know him, and at a certain point of children's aid is
still involved, but believe the assault complaint is unfounded and
the courts believe he was not guilty. You want to
believe that they are right. On the other hand, although
the mother is unreliable, that doesn't mean he is lying.
I think the letter is just to make my husband
feel better because it ultimately is Sam's choice as to
whether he wants to say something to Alex later on,
(16:14):
and if he decides not to, it's his prerogative. David's
fear is that Alex will find out later on and
will think that he didn't want anything to do with him,
when the reality is that he just doesn't want to
make things harder for him. I mean, if Sam is
cool with David having a relationship with Alex at this point,
David love that, but since his denial goes very deep,
(16:35):
he just can't see Sam being okay with that at
this point. Things change, though, and who knows how this
will pay out. We got one more comment from someone,
Lizzie sixty sxo' nine two that says, just so you
know that even a legal DNA test may not have
any sort of impact on custody in many states, particularly
ones where there is a presumption of paternity associated with marriage.
(16:57):
If you act as the father for a certain amount
of time, I'm usually well under five years, I believe
that you are legally the father. Your husband may not
have any sort of claim to Alex at all at
that point.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Which but like, if you think about it, right, it's
like what we've been saying this whole time. This kid
has been raised by this guy for over five years,
so it's like way more destructive to like rip him
exactly versus like, oh, hey, here's.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
A stranger that like and the kid can't even understand. No. No,
I think it's best for the kid, Alex to stay
with the current father. Sam. Yeah, but that's where that
story ends.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, there no more the kid. This was nine years ago,
so the kid's probably like fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh wow, wow, dude, that's so true. I wonder, I
wonder how it all struck out. Hope he's okay, Yeah,
I hope he's okay. Hey, it's sam' your og host here.
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Speaker 2 (18:01):
I recently turned eighteen, giving me the legal right to
be able to get in contact with my father, who
is the baby juice stoner. I was conceived through a
baby juice donation.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I love it. I have known this bar rest of
my life.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I have wanted to know since the age of thirteen
that I was gonna want to make a relationship with
my father, the biological one.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
By the way, this comes from Donderson and if you
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against this. They've given reasons which are valid points, like
my father might not want to meet me and I
could ruin his life somehow.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
That is crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, I mean I could
say like, hey, like it's awesome you want to meet
your father. Sometimes like they may not, you know, they
may not want to meet you. Or often people who
donate that that baby jews sign a thing that it's like,
oh I don't want contact that I don't want them
to release my name or yeah. So yeah, so that
(19:03):
is you know, because some people are are squeezing that juice,
like you know, once a week people full time. Yeah,
people make a living squeeze and baby juice out of themselves,
just squaanching it. Yeah, dude, I remember in college I
would get ads for that non stop, and.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Bro, that would have been that. That seem the appreciation
appreciation seed.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Oh dude, it's going through the roof, insanity going through
the roof. I talked to my mom about her. She's like,
don't do that. I'm like, Mom, a thousand bucks, dude,
a thousand bucks back in college. Like, yeah, forge dude
for doing something I was doing already. Yeah, I'm doing
this for free. Yeah that's passive income. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But despite my parents unsupportiveness, I went and did it anyways.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
And I found him on Facebook. Oh god.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Of course I was thinking that anything could happen. But
he was the nicest people. He was one of the
nicest people ever and proved to me how much I
want to have a good relationship with them. To cut
a long story short, we decided on a place in
time to meet each other, and we did. I was
able to go back to his house. I met his family,
his wife, kid's brother.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh my god. This guy totally opened up his life
to toe pie.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, absolutely, and has other kids of his own and everything.
It's like, Yo, these are your literal biological half siblings.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Wow, this is he has a whole new family. Right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
He did have a sister, but I didn't get to
meet her on that occasion. Once I got home, my
parents sat down at the dinner table and were waiting
for me in silence, in an extremely intimidating manner.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh how do they know? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
But I'm also getting from the first comment about ruining
the life in this to kind of whack.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
You asked, how they know? Dude, they got bugs in
their head. They put it like a you know, a
chip in their head. They know where they're at all
the time.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Facebook. Yeah, Facebook monitoring could have Yeah the past. We're
pretty sure my parents had an app install on my
phone that they could read all my texts because they
knew stuff. Oh like, how do you know that? Dude?
I'm pretty sure I would have been mortified. Yeah, dude,
I'm pretty sure. I feel like they only took it
off like last year. Like I feel like I'm pretty
(21:16):
sure that I don't know how that. Maybe last year's
too much like all those positive.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So but back to the story, Opie says, they asked
the casual where have you been and what time did
you call us? Something was fishy from the start, and
my suspicions were proved to be correct when my dad
said he.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Knew where I had been.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
This continued on for a few weeks where I would
spend time with him, and I even introduced him to
my girlfriend and her dog as the only people that
really supported me through this.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Bro, even the dog is a better parent than his
current parents. Right now, Hey, dude, dog's man's best friend.
Bow wow, bow wow.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
My parents' behavior has become increasingly aggressive towards me and
people close to us.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It's really making me question what I've done here? Was
I the a whole?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And we have some relevant comments, but just really quickly, Sam,
is Obi the a hole?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Not at all. I think what's happening is the parents.
You know, uh what they did? It was IVF for
like baby juice donor Yeah. I imagine there's maybe some
misplaced insecurity there in the parents being like, oh, like
Op is gonna leave us for his is real dad,
(22:28):
but like maybe don't be crap parents and OP won't
do that, dude.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, just like like I totally again, totally gets saying, hey, uh,
you know, maybe he might not want to meet you,
so just prepare yourself emotionally for that. But this is
totally different, whack. But we got some relevant comments. First one,
how did you find him? Baby's donors are assigned numbers?
Opie says his name was on my birth certificate, so
(22:53):
I found him that way.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's weird. That is not normal. That is weird. I've
never heard that happening.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Another comment, was there some sort of arrangement If his
name is on the birth certificate, then technically.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He is a legal parent. Ope, he says.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
In terms of arrangements, I'm not really sure why he
was on the birth certificate. It's possible that he was
in something like that, which would explain why he was
happy when I reached out to him, basically like he
wanted to see him, but he had an agreement to
not you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And we have the update. Oh boy, let's find out Okay,
I'm I'm on the edge of my seat, oh God,
to update on the situation.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
As I mentioned to a reply in a comment, this
man was on my birth certificate and I was told
by you guys to sit them down and have a
conversation about all this.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So I did after my mother returned home from work.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I gathered everyone in the lounge with my bio dad
on zoom and asked why he was on the birth certificate.
And here is the story, okay, or getting the truth.
Biodad met my mom five years before I was born
and had a relationship going on for that entire time.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Ooh baby, for that entire time.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
However, I feel like I should have mentioned this before,
but my parents now have been together for just over
thirty years, so.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
You do the math. There was some meat in the middle,
me in the middle, and some baby just sweezed out
of that meat, So that means affair. My mother was
having an affair boom for five years. Dude, that's a while.
It's a full election cycle. Oh yeah, for real and
(24:34):
more and more.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But in that time that they had been seeing each other,
my mother became pregnant with me. My non biological dad
is actually infertile, something I didn't know about until now.
No way, so when we found out my mother was pregnant,
he reacted in a different way.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
He was happy for her. Man Man is a cult.
He likes sit in that chair watching oh, he's he's thrilled.
Oh my god. Not only is it his deepest, darkest fantasy,
but now he has a kid.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Now he's a kid, and she win, Oh my god,
and is living the dream.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So she said she didn't want a divorce, but was
willing to keep the baby with him.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
He said yes.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
He's like, yeah, bro, I do it again, as they
had been having They had been trying to have a
child for eleven and a half years with zero luck.
Like no, no, miscarriage is nothing, shooting him blanks.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
For over a decade, hitting a raw bro eleven and
a half, they say, like, insanity is doing something over
and over again expecting different results eleven years.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Like he's gone so insane that he's like, bro, you've
been You've been porking my wife for five years.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Amazing. Yeah, he's like, oh my god, I thought I
was gonna have to do that crap for another Thank
you for taking this is the this is a miracle.
I've been I've been sweating my guy. These old bones,
they you know, they don't work like they used to.
This old bone doesn't work like it used to.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It Hey yo, Hey, it's John here Og, host of
the show we're gonna get back to these juicy stories.
But here's a quick three minutes of ads from our sponsors.
So the reason why bio dad was named on the
birth certificate was because they had an arrangement together that
he would forget lot god no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
They had an arrangement together that he would be present
at the birth, at the bird the same thing.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He would be present without the dad that raised me
being there, so he would be named on the birth certificate,
and at eighteen, I would be encouraged to meet him
and told this story. So only half of that happened exactly,
Opie's now he the parents not only did they not
tell him the story and say hey, actively discour they
(27:04):
actively tried to lock him down and punish him crazy.
So in return, he would tell no one about them
and would give them monthly payments as well as staying
far away from her forever. WHOA, wow, that's a crazy deal.
I mean it wasn't affair.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, because like the mom had the affair and now
she's getting money from it.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Dude, I mean yeah, but I guess, I guess it's
like you have to stay away from from obviously her
and the kid for eighteen years.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Wow. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So he upheld his end, but she didn't do the same,
which disappointed my biodad but made him very glad that
I ended up contacting him.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
The long story short.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
If any of you couldn't be bothered to read that
mother had an affair, parents kept me my biodad was
a guy who you know, cheated. The biodad got on
the certificate, got to meet me in eighteen and I
would be told a story. I in no way will
be disowning my current father. He has been the father
figure that I needed in my life so many times
(28:02):
that I just couldn't even if I wanted to. I
will continue to see my bio dad and keep you
updated on the progress if you guys want to be
speaking of which we have edit number two. Oh okay,
So basically, the entire baby juice donor thing just happened
to be the very first thing they thought of at
the time, and they just let me believe their lie.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, so this is just this is the origin of
the baby juice story. But that's the end of the story. Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So we got to the truth and uh, you know,
all's well that ends well, I guess, I mean two dads,
I guess, and uh, you know, a fair dad seems
kind of chill.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Dude. He's crushing it now, he's crushing it now, was
crushing your mom earlier. Bro. But it's so true, so true.
But it seems like it seems like he's a welcoming,
cool guy. You know, I think I think I had
a share, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, oh boy, oh god.
It ended up best for op in the which is
(29:01):
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