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00:00 r/BestofRedditorUpdates - AITA for wearing a white dress to my friend’s wedding?
19:15 r/relationships - My [F/21] boyfriend [M/20] works with a girl [F/23-24?] who told me she'll kill me if I come by their workplace again...?
33:42 r/AITAH - AITA for refusing to fix things with my best friend after she completely excluded me from her engagement and baby shower?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
My friend manipulated me out of her wedding. She's too good,
too good. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I twenty female met my friend Charlotte twenty one when
I moved into my college dorm in August of twenty
twenty two. We got along well, shared ideas for how
we wanted to divide the space and keep things clean
slash organized, and had many similar interests. Within a month,
we were studying and hanging out together and I considered her.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
A good friend. We'll see how that went along went.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But by the way, this comes from Runaway Made of
Honor and if you want to submit your own story,
go to the r slash Okay Storytime subreddits. So I
also met her now husband, Josh twenty two. They seemed
like a cute and loving couple, and I was very
happy when they got engaged a Christmas of twenty twenty
after three and a half years together. Charlotte had spent
the last eighteen months planning this wedding down to the
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last detail. I won't say she's obsessive, but it's been
intense and I've tried to help her as best as
I can with making appointments, managing stress, et cetera, et cetera.
I also gave her two hundred and fifty dollars to help
pay for the wedding. Her family can only afford part
of it, which isn't included in the wedding gift I'm
going to give to her, which again we're talking two
hundred fifty at like twenty one twenty two, so that's.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Like, yeah, it's considerable that.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
For her, that's not nothing. No, you know, you're on
the ram and the college Ramen budget over here, perhaps
to drop.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
In the ocean in terms of how much the wedding costs,
but not a drop for a peek.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
This is true. Great points, Sophia, great point. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
A month before the wedding, I was still trying to
decide exactly what to wear. I wanted something nice because
Charlotte said that she would have a photographer, videographer, and
wedding painter. I knew Charlotte had a vision for a wedding,
and I wanted her as in control as possible for
all the details of her special day. So I asked
her which dress out of the three, and I hear
it down to the one that I should wear. She
asked if I would actually pull out all my dresses,
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so I did. She ended up narrowing it down to
one of my picks along with a dress, and I
had put firmly in the no pile for being white.
It was a wedding after all. She told me both
dresses were lovely, but that she prefers the white one.
What wear a white dress to my wedding?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Dude, I'd be like, aah no, Like do you have
a white theme where you're gonna be not wearing white
and everyone else is gonna be wearing white? And if
she said no, I'd be like, sorry, not wearing that dress.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
But Sophia, this is your best friend of all I mean,
of all time throughout the universe.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, that's why if she was my best friend, I'd
be like, Gally, what are you talking about? But she's
like to wear white to your wedding.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
She's like, Sophia as as we are the bestest of friends.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Unless I was a bridesmaid and she picked out the dress.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
No, no, no ope, he's not a bride'smaid. She's just
she she's picking out.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Ohp he's like just picking out.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
She has a bunch of dresses. She's like, I don't know,
why did she wear for your wedding? What do you
think of these dresses? And then she sat looked at
these three dresses that OPI sent, was like, let me
see all of your dresses, and Opie's like, yeah, here
you go. And then she's like that one, OPI. He's like,
that one's white. I feel like, if this was my
best friend, I'd be like, girl, I'm not gonna wear
a white dress to your wedding unless that's your theme.
(03:24):
And if she said that's not my theme, I'd say, okay,
well I'm not wearing this dress, honey, Beauty like the
other ones. So it's fine, that's true, Honey, be eighty
five says, don't wear it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's a test.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah. I feel like if she liked the other one,
then I'd just wear that other one. Because she said
she was fine with both of them, but she preferred
the white one. I'd be like, yeah, well, I don't
feel comfortable wearing white to your wedding. So I'm gonna
wear this.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But she wants it, she demands.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I don't care. She doesn't know what she wants.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh well, let's see what happens.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I asked if she was sure, and she said yes,
and even picked out a pair of pink and white
heels from her closet to go with my dress. So
I figured that that was that. Fast forward last week.
I show up in the dress about half an hour
before the ceremony. I get some weird looks, but no
one says anything. In hindsight, this is when I should
have realized something wasn't right.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Really, you should have realized something wasn't right when she
told you to wear a white dress. She asked for
it exactly, I'd be.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Like, why why?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
When Charlotte comes out of her dressing room for the
last minute pictures, she looked shocked to see me, and
then she starts turning red.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
She pulls me aside and.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Starts going off on me immediately about wearing that dress
to her wedding.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Wow, yeah, proof o, it got prove right. I'm stunned.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I ask her what the problem is because she picked
out the wedding dress, and she told me it was
a friendship test.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Girl, be so for real, come on, sorry, your friendship
test was to see if your friend didn't listen to you?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Girl, she was literally doing what you asked. Like, Okay,
at least if it's something like and I'm not not
saying I'm in favor of this per se, but like
the orange peel test whatever, where it's like, oh, hey,
could you do this small thing for me to see
if someone is supportive or whatever. Yeah, at least that
is like harmless, harmless and doing something. Yeah, like if anything,
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I would say, She's like, well, it's going against my
instincts to do this, but for you, if you really
want me to wear this dress, it's almost like the
inverse situation. It's like you're kind of like a good
friend if you just acquiesce because of your friendship in.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
A way, So what the freaking heck?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh my goodness, And that if we were real friends,
then I wouldn't have worn a white dress or her
shoes to her wedding, which again she also.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Said she gave her She gave you her shoes. What
come on?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I started laughing because I honestly thought it was a joke,
and she screamed at me that I ruined her e
fing wedding, and to get the f out, I flat
out told her she was crazy and I left, not
wanting to fight anymore and not knowing how to deal
with what happened.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I grabbed my wedding gift of them on the way out.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
My phone has been flooded with text, voicemails, and social
media notifications from her, her friends, and her family about
what an a hole I am because everyone sees her and.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You were white to a wedding.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh dude, it's so bad. It's so bad, dude.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I hope you approof release the proof, rease, release the recordings,
release the tape, release it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, freaking watergate this.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I honestly don't see what I did wrong. Am I
really the a hole here? And why you're a little
bit naive?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Sure? But she told you to do it. She told
you to do it. She set you up. Are you
like a little child walking into a freaking trap. Yeah,
you're like, oh, piano is above my head. Oh, and
then you lick your little lollipop. But you didn't. She
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dropped a piano on you. Metaphorically. Oh, she dropped a
metaphorical piano on.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
You and you assisted it too, acme style. You're like,
what's that doing up there? You're like, She's like, no,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
What's that don't worry about it of scissors in your hand. Okay, No,
this might be a controversial take. Yeah, this might be
a red button issue. Sure to me, Like, think about this.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I have two lovely, incredible friends sitting in front of
me right If either of you tell me something, I
am inclined to believe it because I trust you, because
what incredible people you both are.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And John, you sound like Superman.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
The thing is, John, the thing is you are that
little child walking underneath.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
The piano, Sophia.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I trust I know John, John, I know you absolutely
wear white to a wedding if someone told you to.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
If they if they really sit me down and they're
like they break it down, like they're like, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
As as as.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
John is one of the most gullible, I am very gullible.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I trust you, trust man, and a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Lock you up, go slap on the cuffs right now. Yeah,
that's that's my hot take.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
To get back to it, because we got more, but
comment if you disagree with me, why you In the
comments edit, quite a few people have said you're the
a hole slash everyone sucks here because you should not
know to wear white anyways. And I just want to
clarify that I brought up this point to Charlotte more
than once while asking if she was sure, and she
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insisted that I wear the white dress. She said I
would look lovely, and she wanted me to look my
best for her wedding because she wanted very nice pictures
and videos. I would not have worn the dress if
she had not assured me multiple times that was what
she wanted.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
We have edit number two.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Someone made a comment about if the bride is wearing white,
I should at least be prepared for the weird glances.
The bride didn't even wear white. That was another non
traditional thing she did.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
She wore blue.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
You know what that is. I think that is a
little bit more credit to OP.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Two.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Ah, I think that is a little bit more credit.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yes, I like more credit to OPI I'm with Op
on gullible act.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Well, I don't think that OP did anything wrong. I
just think Op is gullible. But I think that like
this makes a little bit more sense why she'd be like, Okay,
maybe it's like a theme thing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, and there's no there's not a clash at the
bare minimum. But we've got some top comments. Oh and
and certainly Sunshine says I'm John two, but I will
get it in writing that it was her decision.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, I'd be like, okay, if you write down that
you want me to do this?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Sure, And you know what's so sad is like I'd
even be like, well, but we're kin, We're we're kin.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I don't want to. I don't want to have a
contract of you.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Know, you have a sign signed by her that just
says she told me to wear this.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Those like those like the deposition tastes for there being
interrogate in the room with a crappy camera like one
of those.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, I whatever her name is due of sound body
in mind confirmed that I told of Pe to wear
that white dress.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Very legal, very legal, Sophia. We've got some top comments
to address here. First one, she told me it was
a friendship test. Yep, she tested whether or not she
was your friend. And guess what she's not. Oh, she
failed to test when someone is mad at you because
they lied to you, and you believe them. That person
is the a hole, regardless of what convections exist in the.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Broader culture about colors of dresses.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Your friend lied to your face and embarrassed you in
public just to see if she could not the a hole. Uh,
here's another one, not the a whole. I was super
ready to say you're the a hole. But this chick
picked out the dress as a friendship test. That's absolutely bananaous. Yeah,
she's an attention seeking psycho, and I'd say stay as
far away from her and any of her flying monkeys
as possible. If there are any mutuals you don't want
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to give up without a fight. Maybe make a statement
about what she did and about how inappropriate her actions
were to trick you.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And we have an update. I do.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Okay, we were we were, you know, kind of joking like,
you know, release the dames, what Sophia. If you were
in this position, let's say it's it's Sophia, but with
the I extracted my globleness and then you've now you've
now got it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
How would you react? Would you like, text all the.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Friends, all the people, say your wedding with the like
I think.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I if it's like if I cared about their opinion before.
If I didn't care about their opinion and I was like,
I don't even know you are, I wouldn't respond.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's friends that you like that are in the wedding venue.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And I would text all of them proof screenshots of
my text conversation just that yeah, you like, hey, don't
me and do it.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Hey, guys probably were like, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Here you go, here's here's what's going on, and then
just leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, don't like, don't go out of your way to
defend your honor over and over and be like I
didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, blah blah she said like
she said this, bah blah blah. Just literally just fat
any of your proof.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah yeah, because then if they look at the messages,
they can also decide for me.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, you don't even have to be like she said this.
I said this, I felt this way, she felt this way.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Here you go, receipts, receipts, and that's it. But we've
got an update, boys and girls.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, it's been a crazy few days since I posted
that I had to wait until I was home to
read all of the comments, and they just keep pouring in.
Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback on why
they thought I was or was not the a hole.
I texted Charlotte a day after making the post, sometime
around four pm and told her she had forty eight
hours to tell her friend slash family the truth and
to get them to stop sending me hateful messages, or
(12:43):
I tell them the truth myself. Interesting, interesting move, perfect
it okay.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
She told me that I had no proof and that
no one would believe me proof. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
what about this proof? Ooh, don't do it to them.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I should have just gone ahead and posted proof, but
I wanted to be ended as diplomatically and not dramatically
as possible.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It probably would have been less dramatic if you would
just post the proof, honestly, if you had just been like,
here you go.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, I think. And also, we can't trust the friend.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
No, she's she's just gonna be like and OPI doctored
all of these text messages. She's all these fake text messages.
So if you see those, they're fake.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Don't get don't don't do it with her, don't give
her the heads up.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Just receipts. Yeah, and that's it. I'm with Sophia's original plan.
I called her husband around lunchtime two days later to
see if he could talk some sense into her, and
that's when things got weird. I had him on speaker
and was recording the convo extra evidence in case he
knew about the dressing. At this point, I didn't know
if he did or didn't. It turns out he did.
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But when I tried to convince him to talk Charlotte down,
he tried to talk me down, saying I just needed
to let it go and just admit I was wrong
so everyone can move on.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
They're perfect for each other.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Why we can't be surprised.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, I mean getting married or they got married, so yeah,
obviously he supports her.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, and he's like, I can't believe. And he said
it was her.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
It's like, yeah, her husband sided with.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Her, even I'm not that gold.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, just for the record, he said, Charlotte can be
a little dramatic. You know that she loves attention. She'll
forgive you if you apologize. I told him I didn't
do anything wrong, but he said, I know, but just
suck it up. And apologize anyway, That's what I do.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yikes, yikes, man, yikes.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Found the shit of a great relationship poof.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I told him I wasn't going to apologize, and they
only had a few hours left before I told the
truth for them. And then he offered to sleep with
me as an apology.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Oh my, He's like, you could sleep with me as
an apology? And then and then the friend jumps out
and goes frand test, frent test.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
This is another friend show, Sophia Donner, you're right, oh
my again again she was like, see was it was
a whole old slayer series of tests, a whole tests,
erect of tests, and if you pass this one.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Then that negates the first one and then we'll be
friends again. And to be so happy. No, I told
them to f off and hung up.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Good And you have the recording of that, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We do.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So I waited out the remaining bit of those forty
eight hours, and then I took to Facebook and posted
screenshots of the conversation, plus a couple of times I
checked in with her about the dress by text, featuring
the date and time stamps. I also added the recording
of her husband hitting on me. I don't know if
Facebook was the move here, but let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That was Friday evening.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Now it's Monday morning, and I've had to block Charlotte,
her husband, and a few of their friend slash family
who will support them in our cross with me about
quote unquote trying to ruin their marriage?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
How how just you busted that video of her husband
telling you that he would sleep with you, and you're
ruining the marriage?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Would you do that to us? Why? Why you don't
listen to be together?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Most people have reached out to apologize, but I'm honestly
just thankful this is all over, hoping my social circle
can go back to normal after this and that this
will turn into another funny story I can tell friends
in the future. But right before we get into we
actually have another edit to play this out. But Sophia,
just real quick, how are we feeling at this juncture
as we were about to see the conclusion?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I think it's good. I think you cut off uh
what's her face? And her husband? Yes, get them out
of your life. They suck. We know this. Get out
anyone who doesn't believe you. Now, if there is anyone
after all that information and a little bit more. I
don't know, discerning of your friends, because all the people
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who came back to you and were like, oh, I'm
so sorry, sorry, were they actually apologizing?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think this is a lesson in our sweet natured,
but my naive globleness, that we might need to be
just a little a little more aware. I agree, a
little more aware. Hey, heck, I'm walking away a little
bit more aware, and we're.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
All walking away a little more aware.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So there you have it, folks. But let's get into
this final edit of this story. So edit.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Just a note because a lot of people have brought
up the two hundred and fifty dollars you forgot, so
did I. No, I haven't gotten it back, but I
did send her and her husband a Venmo request for
the money back. I'd also like to make it clear
to those arguing about it. I didn't give Sharlotte the
money because she asked for it. I donated it of
my own volition because I knew she still had a
part of the wedding left to pay for, and I
wanted to take a tiny bit of stress offer in
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that area since I could afford to her family wasn't
covering three fourths because it was too expensive. It's because
they believe when you get married you should cover some
of the costs yourself as a recognition of the kind
of commitment you're making.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A huh.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Charlotte and Josh weren't struggling to afford things. I just
wanted to be a good friend because we'd become so
close and she was with me through a couple of
very hard things these past two years. It hurts a
lot to have lost her as a friend. She had
become the sister I'd always wanted growing up, and it
really feels like I lost a family member here. And
that is the end I will say it is. It's
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a very tragical Losey's friends. But it's like, was there
not signs?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah? Are not red flags? Like?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Was she not testing you the whole time? And also
why did she feel the need to test you in
specific like specifically?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Was she testing all of her friends? Like what? You
know what? I feel like her husband had expressed some
sort of sign that he was into Ope, she got jealous,
was like, how do I get her out of you know?
How do I get her out of here? And she
doesn't come to my wedding does the friendship test so
that Ope has to leave.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
That is a world class conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That's my theory. That's my theory.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Chat.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Let us know what you think in the comments. If
Sophia's theory is on the money or crackpot idea, that
was nice thing. But you know what's a real crackpot idea?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
This next story.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Oh that's correct.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
My boyfriend's co worker is obsessed with him. Oh no,
My boyfriend, Joey Mail twenty started working part time at
a chain restaurant a few months ago. I female, twenty one,
work at a bookstore part time about ten minutes away,
but we rarely work at the same time. He likes
working evenings. I perform mornings and afternoons whenever we happen
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to be working at the same time, though we liked
to meet up during our breaks. By the way, this
comes from fixated and frustrated and if you honest meent
your own stories go to the rs slash Okay storytime
suppered it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
A few weeks ago, he wasn't feeling good at work
and asked me to bring him some tea for his throat.
When I came in, there was a pretty hostess behind
the front podium who greeted me. I recognized her as
one of the girls my boyfriend talked about sometimes, one
of his work friends. I told her who I was
and that I came to give Joey ta and she
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told me that leave it at the podium and she'd
give it to him herself. Joey specified in the text
for me to wait for him so he could see
me for a few minutes, so I said I'd rather
wait and give it to him. She got a kind
of mean look on her face and told me that
Joey was busy and I'd only be interfering if I
got in the way. Good the hostess is that guy
(20:31):
in the cage waving Joey's arm with the baby.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
The baby, Oh superan reference too soon Joey.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I told her I would wait in the lobby, and
she said, you'll be taking spots away from our customers.
Spots in the lobby.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Good small lobby lobby.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Only it was a week day at four pm, and
practically nobody was in the restaurant or waiting for tables
at that moment. Joey whipped around the corner, gave me
a hug and kiss, and thanked me for the tea.
We talked for a few made plans for later that day,
and he went back to work. I said thank you
to the girl. Her name is Jess, female twenty three
or twenty four, and she kind of just said goodbye
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in a distracted tone. I mentioned it to him when
we hung out later that day, and he said he
thought that was odd behavior. Thence, other waiters and waitresses
have SSOs who occasionally come in to drop something off,
say I, and she always directs them to the back
of the restaurant. Neither of us really thought much of it, though.
Two weeks ago, Joey and I happened to be working
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at the same time and I forgot a lunch, so
he told me to come visit during my break and
we could eat together. When I got there, he had
a plate of food waiting at a table. When we
sat down, Jess sat right next to Joey without asking
if she could join. That's weird.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
She seemed to make a point of only talking to him,
not even looking me in the eye, and talked about
their work friends, something I couldn't relate to. I stepped
away to use the restaurant, and when I came back,
I heard her saying to him in a witchy voice.
I thought, this is our tradition. I didn't say you
could invite your girlfriend to our lunch. You should have
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asked me first.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Huh huh, huh.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Seems like you joined girl. Seems like they had lunch
plans and you joined.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
See, I have this crazy tradition called getting lunch a
little lunch date with my boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's super crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Crazy because it seems like you don't have that tradition
because he's not your boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Woo.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I thought that was a little off, so I asked
him about it after she went back to work. He
told me they had lunch every time they worked a
lunch ship together and would use the time to crap
on the less likable workers at the restaurant. He said,
she called it tradition, but he didn't think he'd have
to ask permission to invite me. I was kind of
offended that I had to be invited to have lunch
with my own boyfriend. And that was the first time
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I suspected something weird about her. He's constantly texting him
and asking to hang out whenever she's doing something whenever
she's near his house were out of work, she's asking
him if he's free. Joey doesn't have a lot of
free time outside of work, and his mentality toward it is, well,
I see you're at work all the time anyway, so
I don't really want to hang out with her outside
of work that much. So it seems like he's in
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a good place, like he seems oblivious. Yeah, but also
kind of like, yeah, that is weird, that's not cool.
I don't know yeah so far, but I guess I
guess it in a good way. We're approaching. We're approaching
a line.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It feels and correct me if I'm wrong of like, Okay,
now you are understanding and acknowledging some.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yah, now you're informed.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
What do we what do we do?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That's why we really fix this.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
She doesn't relent. She sends him snapchats constantly, where she's
dulled up or with other guys, or in bed with
a tank top and shorts on. I told him this
makes me uncomfortable, but he said he can't control what
she sends them. When she sent him a suggestive picture
of herself in a bikini that said about to get wet,
come over and join me. Huh uh, huh, no, dude, block?
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What okay? Now you're now you're you've gone into the
bad place. Yep, dude, she sent you a picture of
her in a bikini and said, I'm about to get wet.
Come over what.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I can't control it. I'm just the man.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I admit. I started tearing up, and he felt so
bad he blocked her on Snapchat. But it shouldn't have
taken your girlfriend teering up over this. You should have
looked at that and went whoa block. This was a
week ago. Two days ago, I visited him at work
again for lunch and she was working. She didn't join
us this time, and after Joey kissed me goodbye, she
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walked right up to me and said, very seriously, if
you come near this strostrant again, I'll end you. Don't
aff with me?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
A a threat?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And then I say, did you just threaten me? Hello? Police? Now,
I don't think she actually wants to hurt me, but
I can't stomach the thought of him working with her anymore.
I mean, then you go tell your boyfriend, Hey, your
coworker just threatened to end my life. You won't stop
reaching out to him, and when he's been working these
past two days, I felt really stressed out and freaked.
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I told him what she said, but he said she
must have been joking or something.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
How is that a joke?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
She probably was like, I told your girlfriend that I'm
going to end her ha ha.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It's clear she's obsessed with him the most unhealthy way,
and I don't know what to do. One of their
work friends is having a pool party sort of deal
this weekend, and all of the kids he works with
are going.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh, no, it's gonna be wet. Mmm.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
She'd go be in a bakinie. He wanted me to come,
but I can't go because of a family obligation. But
Jess will be there, and the thought of him and
her swimming in a pool together and generally having very
little clothes on is making me dizzy. I know he'd
never do anything to hurt me, but I don't trust
this girl around him. I can't ask my boyfriend to
quit his job or stop hanging out with his work friends,
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but how do I approach this. I'm sick to my
stomach about this girl right now, and I don't know
what to do. There is an edit, Folks, Oh, dude,
I mean, like, tell your boyfriend, I'm super uncomfortable. She
absolutely threatened me. It wasn't a joke, I really, I
just I am not comfortable with you having any sort of,
you know, interaction with her outside of purely work.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, Like I and I feel unsupported.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You know, you're not listening to me.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, you're not listening to me. And then it's like, okay,
if you do nothing that. I'm kind of just like
kind of in this constant state of like, Okay, what's
she going to do next? And he and and you're not,
you know, talking her down, so she might get more
and more bold. Who knows what will happen? Like, Yeah,
I think I think it's like, yo, you need to
do something here. Like I'm just I'm like the little cat,
just hanging in there in the bad way.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
And Nicole h says she's a patron, she can inform
management that she was threatened by the hostess.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh great point. Yeah I like that.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Edit.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So, after reading through some responses, I texted my boyfriend
he just got out of work, and told him everything
I felt. I told him that I was one hundred
percent shore. Jess was not kidding around me when she
said those things to me, and that I feel uncomfortable
with her presence in Joey's life and I think the
manager should be told. I also told him that I
don't feel comfortable with him going to the pool party.
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The main reason he wanted to go was to see
off a friend who's enlisting in the army soon, but
someone mentioned he should just hang out with the guy
one on one instead, which I passed along to him
and he thought was a good idea. He's not gonna
go and will be coming to my grandma's party with
me instead. To be honest, after reading some of your responses,
I started getting mad, not at you guys, at him,
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and I kind of told him off about not standing
up for me and completely shutting this girl out. So
right now we're texting back and forth and he's apologizing.
Part of the reason it took him so long to
distance himself from her was because he thought she was
sending those snapchats to all of his friends, not just him,
But after asking around, his friends told him they didn't
get many of the suggested ones, including the Bekini one.
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He also told me he's been distancing himself from her
in the last week and refuses to spend his lunch
break with her. He's going to talk to the manager
about it, though he's worried about how his work friends,
who are very close to Jess. I guess she's worked
there for a while, will react if she gets canned,
but he wants to see her gone as much as
I do. Thanks for the responses. I'm curious as to
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how the manager and Jess will respond to all of this,
and I'll update if something happens and there is an update, folks.
But what do you.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Think, Well, it looks like we're making positive progress.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I mean again, Initially we were like, Okay, he's naive, right,
and then it got to.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That point was like, ah, the naive excuse doesn't really
work anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I think if we keep going in this direction, then
we can get back into the green zone of goodness.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Agreed, That's what I'm thinking. I agree, So I'm down
to way. Yes, I think if he.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Listens to Ope, you know, listens to her concerns and
acts on those.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Concerns, A thumb's up loop deep.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Joey went into work a few days ago and talked
to his boss. He told him what happened, but the
boss wanted to talk to me, so I came down
to the restaurant to tell him my side. He was
a really cool guy and seemed disturbed by what Jess
had been doing. Since he's known her for a while,
he told me he would handle it. Joe and I
figured he was going to fire her, and we were
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really excited about it. But she didn't get fired.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
She got talked to.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I guess since she's worked there for so long, the
boss felt more comfortable giving her a warning. Some of
Joey's friends from work told him that she spent much
of her shift running back and forth from the bathroom crying.
I would feel bad if she wasn't such a psycho.
I'm sorry she got talked. She started crying because she
she got talked to about her behavior.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Hey listen, Jess.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I don't want to listen, really, I just want to
get what. Do you want to join me? No one
wants to join me.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I'm always alone. We're gonna be alone for all him.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I mean mean me alone.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I'm naven alone and try.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Joe didn't want to go back to work, and he
was really pissed that she didn't lose her job. He
wanted to talk to his boss about it, but his
friends talked him out of it. I guess Jess had
a really rough time in high school and dropped out
of college, and the boss has been giving her second
chances since she was a teenager. So Joey was all
set to quit until this happened.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh don't, don't, don't whoa.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
We were hanging out at Joey's house later that night
and his phone started blowing up. She was calling him
and she wouldn't stop. She left text messages like ain't
now you're home, I see you a car. Oh, and
he got freaked out and went to the window. There
she was standing in the driveway on her phone. He
wanted to call the police, but I just told him
we could go outside and tell her to go away,
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so we did. There is a little bit left to
this story. What do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm feeling some show. Oh jeez, I think so too right.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I think she's gonna get all upset and they're gonna
call it a polish I'll think, And then hopefully she
will get fired.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That would be great, and then she like great, he's
supposed to be with me. I don't understanding off.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
From my job, and you stole the guy who was
supposed to be my boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
She's aid the if you should arrest her for life
or forever?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
No, no, no, no, but there's a little bit left ooh.
But she started yelling at Joey, telling him how I
was a liar. No, she never said any of those things.
She said she still wanted to be his friend and
that I was getting in the way of their friendship.
Joey told her to f off, essentially, and that he
doesn't want her to speak to him anymore. He told
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her if she didn't leave, he'd call the police. So
she did, but not without knocking down his family's trash
barrels first. When he went in the next day, she
wasn't there, even though she was scheduled to be. She
called the boss and quit after she left his house.
I don't know what the heck was wrong with this
girl and why she was so obsessed with my boyfriend,
but she's out of our lives now. I know some
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people were saying Joey seemed to be loving the attention
or he was cheating, but if he was, I feel
like someone like Jess wouldn't have a problem spilling that,
And Joey's kind of a dumb butt. He wouldn't know
if someone was flirting with them, even if they danced
around and lingerie in front of him. So I trust him.
I mean she kind of did. I mean, I sent
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him a picture of her in a bikini.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I've said it time and time again. Men are dumb.
We're really dumb.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You just gotta get smarter, dumb, bar get smarter.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Du Sometimes you gotta get We learn, We learned, we learned,
But we start, we start, we start very dumb stupid.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Joey may still quit his job just because his work
friends seem a little iffy about just quitting. But we'll see.
Thanks again for the responses, and that is the end
of that story.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Folks, Especially when it comes to flirting. Men are really dumb.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
You're dumby.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You can literally tell us, hey, we are we're into you,
and we like you like I don't know. I don't
think she's in me. I don't think she likes me.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I don't know. But uh, wowee wow. I mean glad
that Opie's you know, finally got her boyfriend to understand
and realize what was going on. Yeah, because a Yai
just was a problem maker.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And I'm glad that she's the one who quit because
me too.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Everyone would, Yeah, everyone would maybe you know, fault Ope's
boyfriend for it. But you know now, she quit on
her own accord.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
He did it.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Oh that's good.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, But folks, that's.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
The end of that story. And I think we've got
another one.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Oh hey, John Ogi host here, We're gonna get back
to this episode.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
But a quick three minute break of ads from a
sponsor's keeping the show alive. I refuse to.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Rekindle with my best friend after our fallout.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
It ain't burning anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
My best friend and I have been friends since we
were twelve. We're both thirty six now.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Dang.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
When I say best friends, I mean people know our
names together, like, oh, it's Kaylee me and Layla my friend.
So it's Kaylee and Laila did blah blah blah, et cetera,
et cetera. By the way, this comes from Kate and
Severn And if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Sep reread it.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So in twenty twenty three, she texted me to tell
me she had been talking to a mutual person we know,
and they were going to make it official on igooooooooo.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I was so excited because I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I did have the thought I wish you would have confided,
but she had been wildly private her whole life with
big things, and I was just happy. She told me
before posting. I actually was at work when she told me,
but I called her because a text that big is coraze.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
We gotta talk girl.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
We got a check, I got a check, we got
a call.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I told her, I was so excited, and we need
a girl's day, a sap to catch up and hear
all about I actually got off the phone and told
my other friend who worked with me at the time,
how happy I was for her, and also how I
thought they were probably going to get married.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I could see it and see it all.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
We are both in our thirties and our whole lives.
She has wanted to be a mom, probably more than
a wife. I was happy she had someone finally, and
from what I knew of him, I could see it working.
Both very smart, nice looking, and both opinionated, so I
know he could handle her. He's been around for years,
but we never really hung out with him and he
has had some difficulties in life over the years but
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has come back around and is doing amazing. Now, okay,
all of that to get to this, So we plan
our girls evening a few weeks later. We have a
spot we always get dinner at, then walk over to
a coffee shop to drink.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Chat.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
While at dinner, I was like, girl, tell me everything, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Spill the tea, Billy bill it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
As she was telling me how they started talking, I
was tearing up a lot because of how happy I
was for her.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
She comes from a broken family.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
We've waited so long, and I was just happy it
was finally happening for her.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I super quick gut check Sophia.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I feel like they're literally just announcing it's Instagram official.
I'm like, I don't know if I would. She's like
hyping it up so much.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I would be a fraid do that because if something does.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, I'd be like, this is really like so excited
for you.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, but like it's happening.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, I don't know if we need to say it's happened.
I mean, you just became Instagram official. That means nothing.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Get married now do it immediately?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
You're you're having a kid right now.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Impregnant, married with four impregnacious macious.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yikes, that's the spell Gary, spell of love. Now.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Throughout a discussion, she said something really strange. I can't
remember exactly what I said, but it was something in
passing about like when we all get together and interacting
or something in the future. I'm community minded, and of
course I want to get to know the guy my
best friend is talking to. That's when she said the
strange thing. Well, you know, you have to be careful
when you're around taking men.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
What like you personally or like you generally?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
It sounds like, uh, this was this was a specific toop.
That's weird. Weird.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I heard her and was instantly confused, but so excited
for her. I just brushed it off. As we were
talking around the shopping center. Kept bugging me like what
else could she possibly mean by saying that, And also
she should know me better than anyone that I don't
want anyone's man ever, but especially not hers. I kept
justifying it into my head, but finally just asked her
straight out what she meant, and like, does she not
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want me to get to know her boyfriend? She kind
of doubled down and said, like, well, you know, it's
just different now, like, well you.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Know, now explain I don't know, but like, well, you know,
I don't know. I don't know anything. You're being confusing.
Oh you heard of my feelings?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
You you you ah keeon keon.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I've been shaken up.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
He shook me up. I shook the baby.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I've got shaken baby syndrome. No no, no no no
no no no no.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
She is I cast You're actually twenty four and guys
knew you.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Are no longer baby. Anyway, what happened?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I still didn't get it, but thoughts whatever, we will
figure out the dynamic when it comes to it. She's
probably just overthinking and it's all new. So here is
where it got the most hurtful. So after that conversation,
it did kind of hurt my feelings because I felt
she should know me better than anyone. But I just
justified it and honestly gas lit myself into thinking, Wow,
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maybe I come off as a flirt sometimes when I'm
trying to connect, i'd be nice, and no one has
told me anyway. So they do indeed get engaged after
about three months?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Wait, what how long have they been dating.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Three months long?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Was she?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Three months officially? Like three months Instagram official exclusive?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
How long before that?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Just a little a little bit of this? What is this?
A little bit of this, a little bit of that.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
What is this? That's crazy?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
And I found out about it via Instagram. We didn't
get the pre Instagram the call this time, not a
call or text from anyone. And it was down the
street from my house, out of park.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Oh if he could have seen it through her window.
God sakes.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Wait, they had the wedding, and I thought they just
didn't announce, Like they didn't tell you that the wedding
was happening, and you saw that it was happening on Instagram.
You weren't even invited.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I think it was the proposal. I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh, maybe it could be a proposal.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
We'll see, we'll see. I could have helped set things up.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
It didn't surprise me, though, because not once that I
get to interact with them while dating, and definitely didn't
have that friendship with him, even though he definitely knows
how tight she and I are. I had a twinge
of hurts, but then just told myself, Hey, life doesn't
always turn out to meet your childhood expectations.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I'll just focus on helping with the wedding.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, you're yes, it's going to be so great, Sophia,
because the wedding is going to be completely different.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah. Are you even gonna be like one of the bridesmaids?
Y'all are supposedly such great friends.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Since twelve years old? Y?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, twelve to thirty six.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
That's time.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
That's a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
It's a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Well, it got continuously confusing and hurtful from there. She
asked me to be a bridesmaid. I didn't expect maid
of honor because of her sisters, and that's who she
did pick.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
So of course I was like, okay, I'm ready to
help with anything.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
She kind of kept me out of some things that
I could tell, or when I gave a suggestion, would
shoot it down and make me feel like I was
being overbearing. I was so confused, so I started asking
other friends who I had been in their weddings if
they had one ever felt like I was flirting with
their man and two overbearing when helping them plan the wedding.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
All of them said absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, and some even reminded me they let me stay
in their houses and go on vacation with them.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
They were like, we were so comfortable that you could
have slept in the bed with us.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Ooh, now that's a good friend respecting boundaries right there. Yeah,
if I do say so myself. Sounds funny.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But I hadn't even thought of that, and these friends
I hadn't even known as long as Leila. That's when
I started to get mad and not want to be
in Layla's wedding any longer. I felt every time I
turned around, she was treating me in a distant way,
as if I was going to ruin everything for her.
I did, however, persist on because I felt like we've
been friends too long for me to be dumb and withdraw.
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I did finally feel a part of the group and everything.
When I helped her older sister playing her bridle shower.
They did schedule it on my birthday.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I never acknowledged that.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
What They never acknowledged that he was your birthday?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, we got to lead.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
They weren't even like, hey, girl, happy birthday, glad we
could celebrate this thing on your birthday. Not even a cake,
no presence. I don't like these aren't your friends.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
We have to schedule over your birth And now I
don't know if they didn't at the event, but maybe
leading up to it, like planning the.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, I didn't seem like that totally totally easy to do,
and they didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well, And they definitely know my birthday because theirs are
all in that month too. But I told myself, Hayley,
it's life. I went all out, focusing on decorating the
plane cake. Her sister got her with a gold leaf
and painted the sugar flowers to match her colors. I
got personalized gifts for the guests and went all out
on her gifts, getting her beautiful things from Italy, et cetera,
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et cetera. They don't have a lot of money and
neither do I, but for my best friends once in
a lifetime, I wanted its special.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
OPI is going all out and they suck.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Dare I say it, Sophia say it? Ohpi is a
girl's girl.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, oh, he is a girl's girl. Her friend. Not
a girl's girl, not a girl's girl, not even a
girl squirrels.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Ouch, you heard it here first. She also just tossed
aside my gift as soon as she opened it.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
What it was from Italy?
Speaker 3 (42:56):
It was from Italy.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
It was I still did said, Hailey, chill, life doesn't
turn out how you imagined. It kept getting worse, and
I did ask her for a friend date and I
confronted it a bit, but she just told me our
whole lives. When she was in a room with her
and others, she felt like I dominated conversations and she
didn't want that feeling when with her boyfriend. So we
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finally have an answer to all of these comments in
this attitude. But all the other friends didn't say that,
so I was even more confused because her whole lives.
I've been trying to include her in things with my
other friends and struggled with the fact that she didn't
seem interested or wanting to get to know them. After
that convo, I was done. I definitely didn't want to
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be in the wedding because I didn't feel wanted, but
if I pulled out, it would be obvious because everyone
knows us as friends and even like this. Actually I
was her only friend in the wedding and she only
had her sister's and niece, So long story shorts. In
the wedding and all day that day felt like I
was in some twilight zone dream, so disconnected from my
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friend and the day we had dreamed about our whole
lit I mean, just really quickly, like Sophia, Yes, let's say,
let's say.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
We're right smack right before the wedding.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, what what would you do as a girl's girl?
Yourself sels girl? How would you handle the situations? Would
you not attend the wedding?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Talk to her? What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I would have had that conversation way earlier, like way earlier. Oh,
he is in this kind of frame of mind of
like I don't have to talk about it. If I
don't talk about it, it will go away. Kaylee, don't
talk about it, don't do it. Barry your feelings and
it's like, no, girl, if this is your best friend
and you don't know why she's acting like this, talk
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to her about it and say like, hey, I feel
like you know, there's a little bit of distance between us,
and I never wanted you to feel like I like
dominated a room, but I will actively try not to
do that with you and your partner.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, like if if you if you felt that way,
I would have loved to have known. So I could
you know, as a friend, try to uh.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Include you more, includes you more, and.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Just you know, could try because I care about you. Yeah,
but no, but now you pushed me out. Well let's
see what else we got.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
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Speaker 1 (45:17):
After the wedding, I decided to just distance myself and
honestly thought that she wouldn't try to reach out anyways.
She did surprise me, and after the honeymoon she texted
me saying thanks, but that.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Was it thumbs up emoji.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Mmmm, let's hit her back with that, kay, kay, okay,
the worst text anyone get?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Pape?
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Oh, whoa, that's crude all that's a that's a special
kind of evil right there.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
So over the rest of.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
That year, I would hear small things going on in
her life, like they had to take his young son
in a few months after they got married due to
his mom being unstable. But all seemed good and she
seemed happy from her Instagram post. But I did wonder
if she was. Okay, that's a lot of changes all
at once. Once again, remember she got engaged three months
after officially starting dating don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Part if Yeah, it feels like none of her relationships
are very stable and she's actively destabilizing her friendship with Opie.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
That is so true.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
The most stable, the most song lasting. I also wonder
if it was three months to engagement, how much time
did they have before getting married and before her becoming
the It seems like full custody stepmom, which wasn't part
of the plan because the mom was taking care of
the kids.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
So true.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Yeah, Oh, that just doesn't feel like thought through it all.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
I would have to agree with that. That would be
a lot to handle.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Well, then one day I go to work and a
mutual friend of ours said to me, isn't it so
exciting Layla's having twins?
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Dude, she didn't tell you that's not your friend anymore,
Like that's not your friend at the point when I mean, honestly,
I feel like, even before this, I'd be kind of
on the side of, oh, this person is probably not
trying to be my friend anymore. And I be like, okay, sure,
But when she doesn't tell you that she had kids
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who twins, I mean just one when.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And she'd been like when she'd been wanted to be
a mom even more than a wife, Like.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, it's over.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Do you just kind of like naturally move on, or
do you like try to contact her and say hey,
I think the hmm, tough one, right.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Because I think that that if you wanted to have
that conversation should have happened earlier. I think like, potentially
you are maybe too late to have it. But also
I'm like, it's never truly too late to do something agreed.
It's not like you guys are you know, mortal enemies.
Now you're just kind of indifferent in each other's lives.
(47:50):
So I feel like, if you really are like I
want this friendship, I miss this friendship. I don't know
what happened, go to her and say, hey, it feels
like we've grown apart and I miss us. Can we
go on friend date?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (48:01):
I think usually I'm always like, hey, just just communicate.
I think in this specific context, if things, I mean,
people nathlete naturally drift, life gets busy, that is a
very natural human thing, then that could be fine too.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
But I think this is an either or maybe I agree.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Well, I had been on Finstagram for a while, just
taking a break, and I guess she announced it there
the twins, so no call a text. I just pretended
I knew to save face, but was so hurt and
felt like it was another nail in the coffin of
our friendship. I chose not to reach out, but I
figured I'd get invited to the baby shower and I
could buy things for the babies.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
They didn't get to reconnect there. I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Another mutual came up to me later and said, man,
I'm so bummed I had to miss Layla's baby shower
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
But have fun.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
That's so rough. That's so rough. H Oh. That's happened
to me before, where like a friend was like, hey, like,
are you coming to this thing? And I'm like, I
wasn't invited to that thing, so no, I'm not coming. Yeah. No.
One time I was invited to a party and two
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separate people texted me saying like, hey, like, you going
to this party, and I'm like, I stopped texting me
about this.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
You just say what party and yeah, and then they
get like, oh, no, I did.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
I'm sorry, I don't know about any party. Now you
have to feel bad, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
And you get go back to the host and be
like why didn't you invite the queen?
Speaker 3 (49:30):
I know why I didn't invite me.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
You dare get fine, bite the queen.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
I know why.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I have some words.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
He's an icky boy, ikey, but it sucks, soy, that's right.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
That's right. I said we will have fun. But that
was the final.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Nail because I was not invited. But so you any
final thoughts, just.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
That this isn't your friend anymore, and it sucks because
you've been friends for ages and maybe you'll come back
around and then, but for now, she ain't your friend.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Don't spend time with people who aren't investing spending their
energy into you in a healthy reciprocal way. Yeah, and
that's it. But present time she had the babies, I
found out for mutuals.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Again.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
I didn't even know their names, which is crazy to
think about since I had always pictured being aunt Kaylee.
We did connect a year ago when I saw her
and just went and apologized for being distant. I felt
for my sake, I needed to make amends for my
side and the resentment. We had to talk and she
told me how jealous of me she had been our
whole lives, which shocked me. I always thought she was
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the disciplined, smart, pretty and talented one out of us.
I'm normal looking and had to work hard to do things.
It was healing to hear her say sorry, but her
three young children were with us, and I couldn't think
straight to convey how I felt or to get clarity
on things. So this was a this all could have
been like you, you said multiple times. Yeah, could have
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done so much earlier. I walked away feeling a weight
lifted of the resentment, but now having to grapple that
our whole friendship she had been jealous. I must have
done something. No, that's not necessarily trucessarily.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, maybe you didn't call it out and like have
that conversation early enough. Yeah, but it doesn't mean that
it's your fault that she was jealous of you.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, you could have done nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Could have just been really cool. Yeah, it could be
you know, it could be any of this.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
I realize now that our whole friendship was weird, and
even though maybe we just did the best we knew
to do growing up. I now have real deep friendships
with others who continuously invite me to be part of
their lives even though I'm the single one.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Still yay, and that's what we love to see.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Also just side now anyone who doesn't. It's all I'm
the single one still, who who cares?
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Why does that mean you don't get to be part
of the friend group?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
That's dumby behavior. They don't make me feel bad for kring.
So now am I the a hole? Because she wants
to connect but it means a rebuild of a friendship
and I.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Just don't want to put in the effort anymore. Let's
close it out. Sophia is OPI the a hole for not?
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Oh no, you're not the ahole. You just screw apart. Sucks.
She was jealous of you, sucks. There you go.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
At the end of the day, people aren't entitled to us,
and vice versa, we are not entitled to other people.
And that's just the way the cookie crumble.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
That's how life goes, man.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
My friend manipulated me out of her wedding. She's too good,
too good. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I twenty female met my friend Charlotte twenty one when
I moved into my college dorm in August of twenty
twenty two. We got along well, shared ideas for how
we wanted to divide the space and keep things clean
slash organized, and had many similar interests. Within a month,
we were studying and hanging out together and I considered her.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
A good friend. We'll see how that went along went.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But by the way, this comes from Runaway Made of
Honor and if you want to submit your own story,
go to the r slash Okay Storytime subreddits. So I
also met her now husband, Josh twenty two. They seemed
like a cute and loving couple, and I was very
happy when they got engaged a Christmas of twenty twenty
after three and a half years together. Charlotte had spent
the last eighteen months planning this wedding down to the
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last detail. I won't say she's obsessive, but it's been
intense and I've tried to help her as best as
I can with making appointments, managing stress, et cetera, et cetera.
I also gave her two hundred and fifty dollars to help
pay for the wedding. Her family can only afford part
of it, which isn't included in the wedding gift I'm
going to give to her, which again we're talking two
hundred fifty at like twenty one twenty two, so that's.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Like, yeah, it's considerable that.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
For her, that's not nothing. No, you know, you're on
the ram and the college Ramen budget over here, perhaps
to drop.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
In the ocean in terms of how much the wedding costs,
but not a drop for a peek.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
This is true. Great points, Sophia, great point. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
A month before the wedding, I was still trying to
decide exactly what to wear. I wanted something nice because
Charlotte said that she would have a photographer, videographer, and
wedding painter. I knew Charlotte had a vision for a wedding,
and I wanted her as in control as possible for
all the details of her special day. So I asked
her which dress out of the three, and I hear
it down to the one that I should wear. She
asked if I would actually pull out all my dresses,
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so I did. She ended up narrowing it down to
one of my picks along with a dress, and I
had put firmly in the no pile for being white.
It was a wedding after all. She told me both
dresses were lovely, but that she prefers the white one.
What wear a white dress to my wedding?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Dude, I'd be like, aah no, Like do you have
a white theme where you're gonna be not wearing white
and everyone else is gonna be wearing white? And if
she said no, I'd be like, sorry, not wearing that dress.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
But Sophia, this is your best friend of all I mean,
of all time throughout the universe.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, that's why if she was my best friend, I'd
be like, Gally, what are you talking about? But she's
like to wear white to your wedding.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
She's like, Sophia as as we are the bestest of friends.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Unless I was a bridesmaid and she picked out the dress.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
No, no, no ope, he's not a bride'smaid. She's just
she she's picking out.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Ohp he's like just picking out.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
She has a bunch of dresses. She's like, I don't know,
why did she wear for your wedding? What do you
think of these dresses? And then she sat looked at
these three dresses that OPI sent, was like, let me
see all of your dresses, and Opie's like, yeah, here
you go. And then she's like that one, OPI. He's like,
that one's white. I feel like, if this was my
best friend, I'd be like, girl, I'm not gonna wear
a white dress to your wedding unless that's your theme.
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And if she said that's not my theme, I'd say, okay,
well I'm not wearing this dress, honey, Beauty like the
other ones. So it's fine, that's true, Honey, be eighty
five says, don't wear it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's a test.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah. I feel like if she liked the other one,
then I'd just wear that other one. Because she said
she was fine with both of them, but she preferred
the white one. I'd be like, yeah, well, I don't
feel comfortable wearing white to your wedding. So I'm gonna
wear this.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But she wants it, she demands.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I don't care. She doesn't know what she wants.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh well, let's see what happens.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I asked if she was sure, and she said yes,
and even picked out a pair of pink and white
heels from her closet to go with my dress. So
I figured that that was that. Fast forward last week.
I show up in the dress about half an hour
before the ceremony. I get some weird looks, but no
one says anything. In hindsight, this is when I should
have realized something wasn't right.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Really, you should have realized something wasn't right when she
told you to wear a white dress. She asked for
it exactly, I'd be.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Like, why why?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
When Charlotte comes out of her dressing room for the
last minute pictures, she looked shocked to see me, and
then she starts turning red.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
She pulls me aside and.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Starts going off on me immediately about wearing that dress
to her wedding.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Wow, yeah, proof o, it got prove right. I'm stunned.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I ask her what the problem is because she picked
out the wedding dress, and she told me it was
a friendship test.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Girl, be so for real, come on, sorry, your friendship
test was to see if your friend didn't listen to you?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Girl, she was literally doing what you asked. Like, Okay,
at least if it's something like and I'm not not
saying I'm in favor of this per se, but like
the orange peel test whatever, where it's like, oh, hey,
could you do this small thing for me to see
if someone is supportive or whatever. Yeah, at least that
is like harmless, harmless and doing something. Yeah, like if anything,
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I would say, She's like, well, it's going against my
instincts to do this, but for you, if you really
want me to wear this dress, it's almost like the
inverse situation. It's like you're kind of like a good
friend if you just acquiesce because of your friendship in.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
A way, So what the freaking heck?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh my goodness, And that if we were real friends,
then I wouldn't have worn a white dress or her
shoes to her wedding, which again she also.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Said she gave her She gave you her shoes. What
come on?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I started laughing because I honestly thought it was a joke,
and she screamed at me that I ruined her e
fing wedding, and to get the f out, I flat
out told her she was crazy and I left, not
wanting to fight anymore and not knowing how to deal
with what happened.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I grabbed my wedding gift of them on the way out.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
My phone has been flooded with text, voicemails, and social
media notifications from her, her friends, and her family about
what an a hole I am because everyone sees her and.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You were white to a wedding.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh dude, it's so bad. It's so bad, dude.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I hope you approof release the proof, rease, release the recordings,
release the tape, release it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, freaking watergate this.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I honestly don't see what I did wrong. Am I
really the a hole here? And why you're a little
bit naive?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Sure? But she told you to do it. She told
you to do it. She set you up. Are you
like a little child walking into a freaking trap. Yeah,
you're like, oh, piano is above my head. Oh, and
then you lick your little lollipop. But you didn't. She
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dropped a piano on you. Metaphorically. Oh, she dropped a
metaphorical piano on.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
You and you assisted it too, acme style. You're like,
what's that doing up there? You're like, She's like, no,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
What's that don't worry about it of scissors in your hand. Okay, No,
this might be a controversial take. Yeah, this might be
a red button issue. Sure to me, Like, think about this.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I have two lovely, incredible friends sitting in front of
me right If either of you tell me something, I
am inclined to believe it because I trust you, because
what incredible people you both are.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And John, you sound like Superman.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
The thing is, John, the thing is you are that
little child walking underneath.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
The piano, Sophia.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I trust I know John, John, I know you absolutely
wear white to a wedding if someone told you to.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
If they if they really sit me down and they're
like they break it down, like they're like, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
As as as.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
John is one of the most gullible, I am very gullible.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I trust you, trust man, and a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Lock you up, go slap on the cuffs right now. Yeah,
that's that's my hot take.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
To get back to it, because we got more, but
comment if you disagree with me, why you In the
comments edit, quite a few people have said you're the
a hole slash everyone sucks here because you should not
know to wear white anyways. And I just want to
clarify that I brought up this point to Charlotte more
than once while asking if she was sure, and she
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insisted that I wear the white dress. She said I
would look lovely, and she wanted me to look my
best for her wedding because she wanted very nice pictures
and videos. I would not have worn the dress if
she had not assured me multiple times that was what
she wanted.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
We have edit number two.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Someone made a comment about if the bride is wearing white,
I should at least be prepared for the weird glances.
The bride didn't even wear white. That was another non
traditional thing she did.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
She wore blue.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
You know what that is. I think that is a
little bit more credit to OP.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Two.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Ah, I think that is a little bit more credit.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yes, I like more credit to OPI I'm with Op
on gullible act.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Well, I don't think that OP did anything wrong. I
just think Op is gullible. But I think that like
this makes a little bit more sense why she'd be like, Okay,
maybe it's like a theme thing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, and there's no there's not a clash at the
bare minimum. But we've got some top comments. Oh and
and certainly Sunshine says I'm John two, but I will
get it in writing that it was her decision.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, I'd be like, okay, if you write down that
you want me to do this?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Sure, And you know what's so sad is like I'd
even be like, well, but we're kin, We're we're kin.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I don't want to. I don't want to have a
contract of you.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Know, you have a sign signed by her that just
says she told me to wear this.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Those like those like the deposition tastes for there being
interrogate in the room with a crappy camera like one
of those.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, I whatever her name is due of sound body
in mind confirmed that I told of Pe to wear
that white dress.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Very legal, very legal, Sophia. We've got some top comments
to address here. First one, she told me it was
a friendship test. Yep, she tested whether or not she
was your friend. And guess what she's not. Oh, she
failed to test when someone is mad at you because
they lied to you, and you believe them. That person
is the a hole, regardless of what convections exist in the.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Broader culture about colors of dresses.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Your friend lied to your face and embarrassed you in
public just to see if she could not the a hole. Uh,
here's another one, not the a whole. I was super
ready to say you're the a hole. But this chick
picked out the dress as a friendship test. That's absolutely bananaous. Yeah,
she's an attention seeking psycho, and I'd say stay as
far away from her and any of her flying monkeys
as possible. If there are any mutuals you don't want
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to give up without a fight. Maybe make a statement
about what she did and about how inappropriate her actions
were to trick you.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And we have an update. I do.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Okay, we were we were, you know, kind of joking like,
you know, release the dames, what Sophia. If you were
in this position, let's say it's it's Sophia, but with
the I extracted my globleness and then you've now you've
now got it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
How would you react? Would you like, text all the.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Friends, all the people, say your wedding with the like
I think.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I if it's like if I cared about their opinion before.
If I didn't care about their opinion and I was like,
I don't even know you are, I wouldn't respond.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's friends that you like that are in the wedding venue.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And I would text all of them proof screenshots of
my text conversation just that yeah, you like, hey, don't
me and do it.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Hey, guys probably were like, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Here you go, here's here's what's going on, and then
just leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, don't like, don't go out of your way to
defend your honor over and over and be like I
didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, blah blah she said like
she said this, bah blah blah. Just literally just fat
any of your proof.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah yeah, because then if they look at the messages,
they can also decide for me.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, you don't even have to be like she said this.
I said this, I felt this way, she felt this way.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Here you go, receipts, receipts, and that's it. But we've
got an update, boys and girls.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, it's been a crazy few days since I posted
that I had to wait until I was home to
read all of the comments, and they just keep pouring in.
Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback on why
they thought I was or was not the a hole.
I texted Charlotte a day after making the post, sometime
around four pm and told her she had forty eight
hours to tell her friend slash family the truth and
to get them to stop sending me hateful messages, or
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I tell them the truth myself. Interesting, interesting move, perfect
it okay.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
She told me that I had no proof and that
no one would believe me proof. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
what about this proof? Ooh, don't do it to them.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I should have just gone ahead and posted proof, but
I wanted to be ended as diplomatically and not dramatically
as possible.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It probably would have been less dramatic if you would
just post the proof, honestly, if you had just been like,
here you go.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, I think. And also, we can't trust the friend.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
No, she's she's just gonna be like and OPI doctored
all of these text messages. She's all these fake text messages.
So if you see those, they're fake.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Don't get don't don't do it with her, don't give
her the heads up.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Just receipts. Yeah, and that's it. I'm with Sophia's original plan.
I called her husband around lunchtime two days later to
see if he could talk some sense into her, and
that's when things got weird. I had him on speaker
and was recording the convo extra evidence in case he
knew about the dressing. At this point, I didn't know
if he did or didn't. It turns out he did.
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But when I tried to convince him to talk Charlotte down,
he tried to talk me down, saying I just needed
to let it go and just admit I was wrong
so everyone can move on.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
They're perfect for each other.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Why we can't be surprised.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, I mean getting married or they got married, so yeah,
obviously he supports her.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, and he's like, I can't believe. And he said
it was her.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
It's like, yeah, her husband sided with.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Her, even I'm not that gold.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, just for the record, he said, Charlotte can be
a little dramatic. You know that she loves attention. She'll
forgive you if you apologize. I told him I didn't
do anything wrong, but he said, I know, but just
suck it up. And apologize anyway, That's what I do.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yikes, yikes, man, yikes.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Found the shit of a great relationship poof.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I told him I wasn't going to apologize, and they
only had a few hours left before I told the
truth for them. And then he offered to sleep with
me as an apology.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Oh my, He's like, you could sleep with me as
an apology? And then and then the friend jumps out
and goes frand test, frent test.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
This is another friend show, Sophia Donner, you're right, oh
my again again she was like, see was it was
a whole old slayer series of tests, a whole tests,
erect of tests, and if you pass this one.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Then that negates the first one and then we'll be
friends again. And to be so happy. No, I told
them to f off and hung up.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Good And you have the recording of that, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We do.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So I waited out the remaining bit of those forty
eight hours, and then I took to Facebook and posted
screenshots of the conversation, plus a couple of times I
checked in with her about the dress by text, featuring
the date and time stamps. I also added the recording
of her husband hitting on me. I don't know if
Facebook was the move here, but let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That was Friday evening.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Now it's Monday morning, and I've had to block Charlotte,
her husband, and a few of their friend slash family
who will support them in our cross with me about
quote unquote trying to ruin their marriage?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
How how just you busted that video of her husband
telling you that he would sleep with you, and you're
ruining the marriage?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Would you do that to us? Why? Why you don't
listen to be together?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Most people have reached out to apologize, but I'm honestly
just thankful this is all over, hoping my social circle
can go back to normal after this and that this
will turn into another funny story I can tell friends
in the future. But right before we get into we
actually have another edit to play this out. But Sophia,
just real quick, how are we feeling at this juncture
as we were about to see the conclusion?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I think it's good. I think you cut off uh
what's her face? And her husband? Yes, get them out
of your life. They suck. We know this. Get out
anyone who doesn't believe you. Now, if there is anyone
after all that information and a little bit more. I
don't know, discerning of your friends, because all the people
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who came back to you and were like, oh, I'm
so sorry, sorry, were they actually apologizing?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think this is a lesson in our sweet natured,
but my naive globleness, that we might need to be
just a little a little more aware. I agree, a
little more aware. Hey, heck, I'm walking away a little
bit more aware, and we're.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
All walking away a little more aware.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So there you have it, folks. But let's get into
this final edit of this story. So edit.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Just a note because a lot of people have brought
up the two hundred and fifty dollars you forgot, so
did I. No, I haven't gotten it back, but I
did send her and her husband a Venmo request for
the money back. I'd also like to make it clear
to those arguing about it. I didn't give Sharlotte the
money because she asked for it. I donated it of
my own volition because I knew she still had a
part of the wedding left to pay for, and I
wanted to take a tiny bit of stress offer in
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that area since I could afford to her family wasn't
covering three fourths because it was too expensive. It's because
they believe when you get married you should cover some
of the costs yourself as a recognition of the kind
of commitment you're making.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A huh.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Charlotte and Josh weren't struggling to afford things. I just
wanted to be a good friend because we'd become so
close and she was with me through a couple of
very hard things these past two years. It hurts a
lot to have lost her as a friend. She had
become the sister I'd always wanted growing up, and it
really feels like I lost a family member here. And
that is the end I will say it is. It's
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a very tragical Losey's friends. But it's like, was there
not signs?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah? Are not red flags? Like?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Was she not testing you the whole time? And also
why did she feel the need to test you in
specific like specifically?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Was she testing all of her friends? Like what? You
know what? I feel like her husband had expressed some
sort of sign that he was into Ope, she got jealous,
was like, how do I get her out of you know?
How do I get her out of here? And she
doesn't come to my wedding does the friendship test so
that Ope has to leave.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
That is a world class conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That's my theory. That's my theory.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Chat.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Let us know what you think in the comments. If
Sophia's theory is on the money or crackpot idea, that
was nice thing. But you know what's a real crackpot idea?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
This next story.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Oh that's correct.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
My boyfriend's co worker is obsessed with him. Oh no,
My boyfriend, Joey Mail twenty started working part time at
a chain restaurant a few months ago. I female, twenty one,
work at a bookstore part time about ten minutes away,
but we rarely work at the same time. He likes
working evenings. I perform mornings and afternoons whenever we happen
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to be working at the same time, though we liked
to meet up during our breaks. By the way, this
comes from fixated and frustrated and if you honest meent
your own stories go to the rs slash Okay storytime
suppered it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
A few weeks ago, he wasn't feeling good at work
and asked me to bring him some tea for his throat.
When I came in, there was a pretty hostess behind
the front podium who greeted me. I recognized her as
one of the girls my boyfriend talked about sometimes, one
of his work friends. I told her who I was
and that I came to give Joey ta and she
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told me that leave it at the podium and she'd
give it to him herself. Joey specified in the text
for me to wait for him so he could see
me for a few minutes, so I said I'd rather
wait and give it to him. She got a kind
of mean look on her face and told me that
Joey was busy and I'd only be interfering if I
got in the way. Good the hostess is that guy
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in the cage waving Joey's arm with the baby.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
The baby, Oh superan reference too soon Joey.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I told her I would wait in the lobby, and
she said, you'll be taking spots away from our customers.
Spots in the lobby.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Good small lobby lobby.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Only it was a week day at four pm, and
practically nobody was in the restaurant or waiting for tables
at that moment. Joey whipped around the corner, gave me
a hug and kiss, and thanked me for the tea.
We talked for a few made plans for later that day,
and he went back to work. I said thank you
to the girl. Her name is Jess, female twenty three
or twenty four, and she kind of just said goodbye
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in a distracted tone. I mentioned it to him when
we hung out later that day, and he said he
thought that was odd behavior. Thence, other waiters and waitresses
have SSOs who occasionally come in to drop something off,
say I, and she always directs them to the back
of the restaurant. Neither of us really thought much of it, though.
Two weeks ago, Joey and I happened to be working
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at the same time and I forgot a lunch, so
he told me to come visit during my break and
we could eat together. When I got there, he had
a plate of food waiting at a table. When we
sat down, Jess sat right next to Joey without asking
if she could join. That's weird.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
She seemed to make a point of only talking to him,
not even looking me in the eye, and talked about
their work friends, something I couldn't relate to. I stepped
away to use the restaurant, and when I came back,
I heard her saying to him in a witchy voice.
I thought, this is our tradition. I didn't say you
could invite your girlfriend to our lunch. You should have
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asked me first.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Huh huh, huh.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Seems like you joined girl. Seems like they had lunch
plans and you joined.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
See, I have this crazy tradition called getting lunch a
little lunch date with my boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's super crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Crazy because it seems like you don't have that tradition
because he's not your boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Woo.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I thought that was a little off, so I asked
him about it after she went back to work. He
told me they had lunch every time they worked a
lunch ship together and would use the time to crap
on the less likable workers at the restaurant. He said,
she called it tradition, but he didn't think he'd have
to ask permission to invite me. I was kind of
offended that I had to be invited to have lunch
with my own boyfriend. And that was the first time
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I suspected something weird about her. He's constantly texting him
and asking to hang out whenever she's doing something whenever
she's near his house were out of work, she's asking
him if he's free. Joey doesn't have a lot of
free time outside of work, and his mentality toward it is, well,
I see you're at work all the time anyway, so
I don't really want to hang out with her outside
of work that much. So it seems like he's in
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a good place, like he seems oblivious. Yeah, but also
kind of like, yeah, that is weird, that's not cool.
I don't know yeah so far, but I guess I
guess it in a good way. We're approaching. We're approaching
a line.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It feels and correct me if I'm wrong of like, Okay,
now you are understanding and acknowledging some.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yah, now you're informed.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
What do we what do we do?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That's why we really fix this.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
She doesn't relent. She sends him snapchats constantly, where she's
dulled up or with other guys, or in bed with
a tank top and shorts on. I told him this
makes me uncomfortable, but he said he can't control what
she sends them. When she sent him a suggestive picture
of herself in a bikini that said about to get wet,
come over and join me. Huh uh, huh, no, dude, block?
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What okay? Now you're now you're you've gone into the
bad place. Yep, dude, she sent you a picture of
her in a bikini and said, I'm about to get wet.
Come over what.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I can't control it. I'm just the man.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I admit. I started tearing up, and he felt so
bad he blocked her on Snapchat. But it shouldn't have
taken your girlfriend teering up over this. You should have
looked at that and went whoa block. This was a
week ago. Two days ago, I visited him at work
again for lunch and she was working. She didn't join
us this time, and after Joey kissed me goodbye, she
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walked right up to me and said, very seriously, if
you come near this strostrant again, I'll end you. Don't
aff with me?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
A a threat?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And then I say, did you just threaten me? Hello? Police? Now,
I don't think she actually wants to hurt me, but
I can't stomach the thought of him working with her anymore.
I mean, then you go tell your boyfriend, Hey, your
coworker just threatened to end my life. You won't stop
reaching out to him, and when he's been working these
past two days, I felt really stressed out and freaked.
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I told him what she said, but he said she
must have been joking or something.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
How is that a joke?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
She probably was like, I told your girlfriend that I'm
going to end her ha ha.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It's clear she's obsessed with him the most unhealthy way,
and I don't know what to do. One of their
work friends is having a pool party sort of deal
this weekend, and all of the kids he works with
are going.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh, no, it's gonna be wet. Mmm.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
She'd go be in a bakinie. He wanted me to come,
but I can't go because of a family obligation. But
Jess will be there, and the thought of him and
her swimming in a pool together and generally having very
little clothes on is making me dizzy. I know he'd
never do anything to hurt me, but I don't trust
this girl around him. I can't ask my boyfriend to
quit his job or stop hanging out with his work friends,
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but how do I approach this. I'm sick to my
stomach about this girl right now, and I don't know
what to do. There is an edit, Folks, Oh, dude,
I mean, like, tell your boyfriend, I'm super uncomfortable. She
absolutely threatened me. It wasn't a joke, I really, I
just I am not comfortable with you having any sort of,
you know, interaction with her outside of purely work.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, Like I and I feel unsupported.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You know, you're not listening to me.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, you're not listening to me. And then it's like, okay,
if you do nothing that. I'm kind of just like
kind of in this constant state of like, Okay, what's
she going to do next? And he and and you're not,
you know, talking her down, so she might get more
and more bold. Who knows what will happen? Like, Yeah,
I think I think it's like, yo, you need to
do something here. Like I'm just I'm like the little cat,
just hanging in there in the bad way.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
And Nicole h says she's a patron, she can inform
management that she was threatened by the hostess.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh great point. Yeah I like that.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Edit.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So, after reading through some responses, I texted my boyfriend
he just got out of work, and told him everything
I felt. I told him that I was one hundred
percent shore. Jess was not kidding around me when she
said those things to me, and that I feel uncomfortable
with her presence in Joey's life and I think the
manager should be told. I also told him that I
don't feel comfortable with him going to the pool party.
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The main reason he wanted to go was to see
off a friend who's enlisting in the army soon, but
someone mentioned he should just hang out with the guy
one on one instead, which I passed along to him
and he thought was a good idea. He's not gonna
go and will be coming to my grandma's party with
me instead. To be honest, after reading some of your responses,
I started getting mad, not at you guys, at him,
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and I kind of told him off about not standing
up for me and completely shutting this girl out. So
right now we're texting back and forth and he's apologizing.
Part of the reason it took him so long to
distance himself from her was because he thought she was
sending those snapchats to all of his friends, not just him,
But after asking around, his friends told him they didn't
get many of the suggested ones, including the Bekini one.
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He also told me he's been distancing himself from her
in the last week and refuses to spend his lunch
break with her. He's going to talk to the manager
about it, though he's worried about how his work friends,
who are very close to Jess. I guess she's worked
there for a while, will react if she gets canned,
but he wants to see her gone as much as
I do. Thanks for the responses. I'm curious as to
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how the manager and Jess will respond to all of this,
and I'll update if something happens and there is an update, folks.
But what do you.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Think, Well, it looks like we're making positive progress.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I mean again, Initially we were like, Okay, he's naive, right,
and then it got to.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That point was like, ah, the naive excuse doesn't really
work anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I think if we keep going in this direction, then
we can get back into the green zone of goodness.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Agreed, That's what I'm thinking. I agree, So I'm down
to way. Yes, I think if he.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Listens to Ope, you know, listens to her concerns and
acts on those.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Concerns, A thumb's up loop deep.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Joey went into work a few days ago and talked
to his boss. He told him what happened, but the
boss wanted to talk to me, so I came down
to the restaurant to tell him my side. He was
a really cool guy and seemed disturbed by what Jess
had been doing. Since he's known her for a while,
he told me he would handle it. Joe and I
figured he was going to fire her, and we were
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really excited about it. But she didn't get fired.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
She got talked to.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I guess since she's worked there for so long, the
boss felt more comfortable giving her a warning. Some of
Joey's friends from work told him that she spent much
of her shift running back and forth from the bathroom crying.
I would feel bad if she wasn't such a psycho.
I'm sorry she got talked. She started crying because she
she got talked to about her behavior.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Hey listen, Jess.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I don't want to listen, really, I just want to
get what. Do you want to join me? No one
wants to join me.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I'm always alone. We're gonna be alone for all him.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I mean mean me alone.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I'm naven alone and try.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Joe didn't want to go back to work, and he
was really pissed that she didn't lose her job. He
wanted to talk to his boss about it, but his
friends talked him out of it. I guess Jess had
a really rough time in high school and dropped out
of college, and the boss has been giving her second
chances since she was a teenager. So Joey was all
set to quit until this happened.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh don't, don't, don't whoa.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
We were hanging out at Joey's house later that night
and his phone started blowing up. She was calling him
and she wouldn't stop. She left text messages like ain't
now you're home, I see you a car. Oh, and
he got freaked out and went to the window. There
she was standing in the driveway on her phone. He
wanted to call the police, but I just told him
we could go outside and tell her to go away,
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so we did. There is a little bit left to
this story. What do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I'm feeling some show. Oh jeez, I think so too right.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I think she's gonna get all upset and they're gonna
call it a polish I'll think, And then hopefully she
will get fired.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That would be great, and then she like great, he's
supposed to be with me. I don't understanding off.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
From my job, and you stole the guy who was
supposed to be my boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
She's aid the if you should arrest her for life
or forever?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
No, no, no, no, but there's a little bit left ooh.
But she started yelling at Joey, telling him how I
was a liar. No, she never said any of those things.
She said she still wanted to be his friend and
that I was getting in the way of their friendship.
Joey told her to f off, essentially, and that he
doesn't want her to speak to him anymore. He told
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her if she didn't leave, he'd call the police. So
she did, but not without knocking down his family's trash
barrels first. When he went in the next day, she
wasn't there, even though she was scheduled to be. She
called the boss and quit after she left his house.
I don't know what the heck was wrong with this
girl and why she was so obsessed with my boyfriend,
but she's out of our lives now. I know some
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people were saying Joey seemed to be loving the attention
or he was cheating, but if he was, I feel
like someone like Jess wouldn't have a problem spilling that,
And Joey's kind of a dumb butt. He wouldn't know
if someone was flirting with them, even if they danced
around and lingerie in front of him. So I trust him.
I mean she kind of did. I mean, I sent
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him a picture of her in a bikini.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I've said it time and time again. Men are dumb.
We're really dumb.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You just gotta get smarter, dumb, bar get smarter.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Du Sometimes you gotta get We learn, We learned, we learned,
But we start, we start, we start very dumb stupid.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Joey may still quit his job just because his work
friends seem a little iffy about just quitting. But we'll see.
Thanks again for the responses, and that is the end
of that story.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Folks, Especially when it comes to flirting. Men are really dumb.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
You're dumby.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You can literally tell us, hey, we are we're into you,
and we like you like I don't know. I don't
think she's in me. I don't think she likes me.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I don't know. But uh, wowee wow. I mean glad
that Opie's you know, finally got her boyfriend to understand
and realize what was going on. Yeah, because a Yai
just was a problem maker.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And I'm glad that she's the one who quit because
me too.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Everyone would, Yeah, everyone would maybe you know, fault Ope's
boyfriend for it. But you know now, she quit on
her own accord.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
He did it.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Oh that's good.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, But folks, that's.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
The end of that story. And I think we've got
another one.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Oh hey, John Ogi host here, We're gonna get back
to this episode.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
But a quick three minute break of ads from a
sponsor's keeping the show alive. I refuse to.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Rekindle with my best friend after our fallout.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
It ain't burning anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
My best friend and I have been friends since we
were twelve. We're both thirty six now.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Dang.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
When I say best friends, I mean people know our
names together, like, oh, it's Kaylee me and Layla my friend.
So it's Kaylee and Laila did blah blah blah, et cetera,
et cetera. By the way, this comes from Kate and
Severn And if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Sep reread it.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So in twenty twenty three, she texted me to tell
me she had been talking to a mutual person we know,
and they were going to make it official on igooooooooo.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I was so excited because I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I did have the thought I wish you would have confided,
but she had been wildly private her whole life with
big things, and I was just happy. She told me
before posting. I actually was at work when she told me,
but I called her because a text that big is coraze.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
We gotta talk girl.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
We got a check, I got a check, we got
a call.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I told her, I was so excited, and we need
a girl's day, a sap to catch up and hear
all about I actually got off the phone and told
my other friend who worked with me at the time,
how happy I was for her, and also how I
thought they were probably going to get married.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I could see it and see it all.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
We are both in our thirties and our whole lives.
She has wanted to be a mom, probably more than
a wife. I was happy she had someone finally, and
from what I knew of him, I could see it working.
Both very smart, nice looking, and both opinionated, so I
know he could handle her. He's been around for years,
but we never really hung out with him and he
has had some difficulties in life over the years but
(35:21):
has come back around and is doing amazing. Now, okay,
all of that to get to this, So we plan
our girls evening a few weeks later. We have a
spot we always get dinner at, then walk over to
a coffee shop to drink.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Chat.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
While at dinner, I was like, girl, tell me everything, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Spill the tea, Billy bill it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
As she was telling me how they started talking, I
was tearing up a lot because of how happy I
was for her.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
She comes from a broken family.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
We've waited so long, and I was just happy it
was finally happening for her.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I super quick gut check Sophia.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I feel like they're literally just announcing it's Instagram official.
I'm like, I don't know if I would. She's like
hyping it up so much.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I would be a fraid do that because if something does.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, I'd be like, this is really like so excited
for you.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, but like it's happening.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, I don't know if we need to say it's happened.
I mean, you just became Instagram official. That means nothing.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Get married now do it immediately?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
You're you're having a kid right now.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Impregnant, married with four impregnacious macious.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yikes, that's the spell Gary, spell of love. Now.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Throughout a discussion, she said something really strange. I can't
remember exactly what I said, but it was something in
passing about like when we all get together and interacting
or something in the future. I'm community minded, and of
course I want to get to know the guy my
best friend is talking to. That's when she said the
strange thing. Well, you know, you have to be careful
when you're around taking men.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
What like you personally or like you generally?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
It sounds like, uh, this was this was a specific toop.
That's weird. Weird.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I heard her and was instantly confused, but so excited
for her. I just brushed it off. As we were
talking around the shopping center. Kept bugging me like what
else could she possibly mean by saying that, And also
she should know me better than anyone that I don't
want anyone's man ever, but especially not hers. I kept
justifying it into my head, but finally just asked her
straight out what she meant, and like, does she not
(37:30):
want me to get to know her boyfriend? She kind
of doubled down and said, like, well, you know, it's
just different now, like, well you.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Know, now explain I don't know, but like, well, you know,
I don't know. I don't know anything. You're being confusing.
Oh you heard of my feelings?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
You you you ah keeon keon.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I've been shaken up.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
He shook me up. I shook the baby.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I've got shaken baby syndrome. No no, no no no
no no no no.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
She is I cast You're actually twenty four and guys
knew you.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Are no longer baby. Anyway, what happened?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I still didn't get it, but thoughts whatever, we will
figure out the dynamic when it comes to it. She's
probably just overthinking and it's all new. So here is
where it got the most hurtful. So after that conversation,
it did kind of hurt my feelings because I felt
she should know me better than anyone. But I just
justified it and honestly gas lit myself into thinking, Wow,
(38:32):
maybe I come off as a flirt sometimes when I'm
trying to connect, i'd be nice, and no one has
told me anyway. So they do indeed get engaged after
about three months?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Wait, what how long have they been dating.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Three months long?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Was she?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Three months officially? Like three months Instagram official exclusive?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
How long before that?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Just a little a little bit of this? What is this?
A little bit of this, a little bit of that.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
What is this? That's crazy?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
And I found out about it via Instagram. We didn't
get the pre Instagram the call this time, not a
call or text from anyone. And it was down the
street from my house, out of park.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Oh if he could have seen it through her window.
God sakes.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Wait, they had the wedding, and I thought they just
didn't announce, Like they didn't tell you that the wedding
was happening, and you saw that it was happening on Instagram.
You weren't even invited.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I think it was the proposal. I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh, maybe it could be a proposal.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
We'll see, we'll see. I could have helped set things up.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
It didn't surprise me, though, because not once that I
get to interact with them while dating, and definitely didn't
have that friendship with him, even though he definitely knows
how tight she and I are. I had a twinge
of hurts, but then just told myself, Hey, life doesn't
always turn out to meet your childhood expectations.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I'll just focus on helping with the wedding.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, you're yes, it's going to be so great, Sophia,
because the wedding is going to be completely different.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah. Are you even gonna be like one of the bridesmaids?
Y'all are supposedly such great friends.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Since twelve years old? Y?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, twelve to thirty six.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
That's time.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
That's a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
It's a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Well, it got continuously confusing and hurtful from there. She
asked me to be a bridesmaid. I didn't expect maid
of honor because of her sisters, and that's who she
did pick.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
So of course I was like, okay, I'm ready to
help with anything.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
She kind of kept me out of some things that
I could tell, or when I gave a suggestion, would
shoot it down and make me feel like I was
being overbearing. I was so confused, so I started asking
other friends who I had been in their weddings if
they had one ever felt like I was flirting with
their man and two overbearing when helping them plan the wedding.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
All of them said absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, and some even reminded me they let me stay
in their houses and go on vacation with them.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
They were like, we were so comfortable that you could
have slept in the bed with us.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Ooh, now that's a good friend respecting boundaries right there. Yeah,
if I do say so myself. Sounds funny.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But I hadn't even thought of that, and these friends
I hadn't even known as long as Leila. That's when
I started to get mad and not want to be
in Layla's wedding any longer. I felt every time I
turned around, she was treating me in a distant way,
as if I was going to ruin everything for her.
I did, however, persist on because I felt like we've
been friends too long for me to be dumb and withdraw.
(41:26):
I did finally feel a part of the group and everything.
When I helped her older sister playing her bridle shower.
They did schedule it on my birthday.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I never acknowledged that.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
What They never acknowledged that he was your birthday?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, we got to lead.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
They weren't even like, hey, girl, happy birthday, glad we
could celebrate this thing on your birthday. Not even a cake,
no presence. I don't like these aren't your friends.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
We have to schedule over your birth And now I
don't know if they didn't at the event, but maybe
leading up to it, like planning the.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, I didn't seem like that totally totally easy to do,
and they didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Well, And they definitely know my birthday because theirs are
all in that month too. But I told myself, Hayley,
it's life. I went all out, focusing on decorating the
plane cake. Her sister got her with a gold leaf
and painted the sugar flowers to match her colors. I
got personalized gifts for the guests and went all out
on her gifts, getting her beautiful things from Italy, et cetera,
(42:24):
et cetera. They don't have a lot of money and
neither do I, but for my best friends once in
a lifetime, I wanted its special.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
OPI is going all out and they suck.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Dare I say it, Sophia say it? Ohpi is a
girl's girl.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, oh, he is a girl's girl. Her friend. Not
a girl's girl, not a girl's girl, not even a
girl squirrels.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Ouch, you heard it here first. She also just tossed
aside my gift as soon as she opened it.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
What it was from Italy?
Speaker 3 (42:56):
It was from Italy.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
It was I still did said, Hailey, chill, life doesn't
turn out how you imagined. It kept getting worse, and
I did ask her for a friend date and I
confronted it a bit, but she just told me our
whole lives. When she was in a room with her
and others, she felt like I dominated conversations and she
didn't want that feeling when with her boyfriend. So we
(43:19):
finally have an answer to all of these comments in
this attitude. But all the other friends didn't say that,
so I was even more confused because her whole lives.
I've been trying to include her in things with my
other friends and struggled with the fact that she didn't
seem interested or wanting to get to know them. After
that convo, I was done. I definitely didn't want to
(43:40):
be in the wedding because I didn't feel wanted, but
if I pulled out, it would be obvious because everyone
knows us as friends and even like this. Actually I
was her only friend in the wedding and she only
had her sister's and niece, So long story shorts. In
the wedding and all day that day felt like I
was in some twilight zone dream, so disconnected from my
(44:02):
friend and the day we had dreamed about our whole
lit I mean, just really quickly, like Sophia, Yes, let's say,
let's say.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
We're right smack right before the wedding.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, what what would you do as a girl's girl?
Yourself sels girl? How would you handle the situations? Would
you not attend the wedding?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Talk to her? What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I would have had that conversation way earlier, like way earlier. Oh,
he is in this kind of frame of mind of
like I don't have to talk about it. If I
don't talk about it, it will go away. Kaylee, don't
talk about it, don't do it. Barry your feelings and
it's like, no, girl, if this is your best friend
and you don't know why she's acting like this, talk
(44:44):
to her about it and say like, hey, I feel
like you know, there's a little bit of distance between us,
and I never wanted you to feel like I like
dominated a room, but I will actively try not to
do that with you and your partner.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, like if if you if you felt that way,
I would have loved to have known. So I could
you know, as a friend, try to uh.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Include you more, includes you more, and.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Just you know, could try because I care about you. Yeah,
but no, but now you pushed me out. Well let's
see what else we got.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Hey, it's Sam. We're to get back to these stories.
But here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
After the wedding, I decided to just distance myself and
honestly thought that she wouldn't try to reach out anyways.
She did surprise me, and after the honeymoon she texted
me saying thanks, but that.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Was it thumbs up emoji.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Mmmm, let's hit her back with that, kay, kay, okay,
the worst text anyone get?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Pape?
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Oh, whoa, that's crude all that's a that's a special
kind of evil right there.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
So over the rest of.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
That year, I would hear small things going on in
her life, like they had to take his young son
in a few months after they got married due to
his mom being unstable. But all seemed good and she
seemed happy from her Instagram post. But I did wonder
if she was. Okay, that's a lot of changes all
at once. Once again, remember she got engaged three months
after officially starting dating don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Part if Yeah, it feels like none of her relationships
are very stable and she's actively destabilizing her friendship with Opie.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
That is so true.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
The most stable, the most song lasting. I also wonder
if it was three months to engagement, how much time
did they have before getting married and before her becoming
the It seems like full custody stepmom, which wasn't part
of the plan because the mom was taking care of
the kids.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
So true.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Yeah, Oh, that just doesn't feel like thought through it all.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
I would have to agree with that. That would be
a lot to handle.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Well, then one day I go to work and a
mutual friend of ours said to me, isn't it so
exciting Layla's having twins?
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Dude, she didn't tell you that's not your friend anymore,
Like that's not your friend at the point when I mean, honestly,
I feel like, even before this, I'd be kind of
on the side of, oh, this person is probably not
trying to be my friend anymore. And I be like, okay, sure,
But when she doesn't tell you that she had kids
(47:10):
who twins, I mean just one when.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And she'd been like when she'd been wanted to be
a mom even more than a wife, Like.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, it's over.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Do you just kind of like naturally move on, or
do you like try to contact her and say hey,
I think the hmm, tough one, right.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Because I think that that if you wanted to have
that conversation should have happened earlier. I think like, potentially
you are maybe too late to have it. But also
I'm like, it's never truly too late to do something agreed.
It's not like you guys are you know, mortal enemies.
Now you're just kind of indifferent in each other's lives.
(47:50):
So I feel like, if you really are like I
want this friendship, I miss this friendship. I don't know
what happened, go to her and say, hey, it feels
like we've grown apart and I miss us. Can we
go on friend date?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (48:01):
I think usually I'm always like, hey, just just communicate.
I think in this specific context, if things, I mean,
people nathlete naturally drift, life gets busy, that is a
very natural human thing, then that could be fine too.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
But I think this is an either or maybe I agree.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Well, I had been on Finstagram for a while, just
taking a break, and I guess she announced it there
the twins, so no call a text. I just pretended
I knew to save face, but was so hurt and
felt like it was another nail in the coffin of
our friendship. I chose not to reach out, but I
figured I'd get invited to the baby shower and I
could buy things for the babies.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
They didn't get to reconnect there. I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Another mutual came up to me later and said, man,
I'm so bummed I had to miss Layla's baby shower
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
But have fun.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
That's so rough. That's so rough. H Oh. That's happened
to me before, where like a friend was like, hey, like,
are you coming to this thing? And I'm like, I
wasn't invited to that thing, so no, I'm not coming. Yeah. No.
One time I was invited to a party and two
(49:10):
separate people texted me saying like, hey, like, you going
to this party, and I'm like, I stopped texting me
about this.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
You just say what party and yeah, and then they
get like, oh, no, I did.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
I'm sorry, I don't know about any party. Now you
have to feel bad, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
And you get go back to the host and be
like why didn't you invite the queen?
Speaker 3 (49:30):
I know why I didn't invite me.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
You dare get fine, bite the queen.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
I know why.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I have some words.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
He's an icky boy, ikey, but it sucks, soy, that's right.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
That's right. I said we will have fun. But that
was the final.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Nail because I was not invited. But so you any
final thoughts, just.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
That this isn't your friend anymore, and it sucks because
you've been friends for ages and maybe you'll come back
around and then, but for now, she ain't your friend.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Don't spend time with people who aren't investing spending their
energy into you in a healthy reciprocal way. Yeah, and
that's it. But present time she had the babies, I
found out for mutuals.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Again.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
I didn't even know their names, which is crazy to
think about since I had always pictured being aunt Kaylee.
We did connect a year ago when I saw her
and just went and apologized for being distant. I felt
for my sake, I needed to make amends for my
side and the resentment. We had to talk and she
told me how jealous of me she had been our
whole lives, which shocked me. I always thought she was
(50:41):
the disciplined, smart, pretty and talented one out of us.
I'm normal looking and had to work hard to do things.
It was healing to hear her say sorry, but her
three young children were with us, and I couldn't think
straight to convey how I felt or to get clarity
on things. So this was a this all could have
been like you, you said multiple times. Yeah, could have
(51:01):
done so much earlier. I walked away feeling a weight
lifted of the resentment, but now having to grapple that
our whole friendship she had been jealous. I must have
done something. No, that's not necessarily trucessarily.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, maybe you didn't call it out and like have
that conversation early enough. Yeah, but it doesn't mean that
it's your fault that she was jealous of you.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, you could have done nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Could have just been really cool. Yeah, it could be
you know, it could be any of this.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
I realize now that our whole friendship was weird, and
even though maybe we just did the best we knew
to do growing up. I now have real deep friendships
with others who continuously invite me to be part of
their lives even though I'm the single one.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Still yay, and that's what we love to see.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Also just side now anyone who doesn't. It's all I'm
the single one still, who who cares?
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Why does that mean you don't get to be part
of the friend group?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
That's dumby behavior. They don't make me feel bad for kring.
So now am I the a hole? Because she wants
to connect but it means a rebuild of a friendship
and I.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Just don't want to put in the effort anymore. Let's
close it out. Sophia is OPI the a hole for not?
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Oh no, you're not the ahole. You just screw apart. Sucks.
She was jealous of you, sucks. There you go.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
At the end of the day, people aren't entitled to us,
and vice versa, we are not entitled to other people.
And that's just the way the cookie crumble.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
That's how life goes, man.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
But the other thing that goes is this episode because
it's freaking over it is Benito. So if you love us,
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