My best friend LIED about me to his girlfriend… and now it’s ruined our friendship! - r/AITAH | Reddit Stories |EP2312 - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:18):
My best friend lied about me to his girlfriend and
now it's ruined our friendship.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Tell the truth.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
I thirty four female have been best friends with this guy,
George thirty three mail for over thirteen years now. We
met at the same job and over the twelve hour
days Wow really bonded over our same love of nerdy stuff,
dumb humor, and the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
We have a very brother.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Sister relationship where we understand each other pretty well, but
the thought of any schmickshet time between us makes us
both visibly ill strictly bros, which is what we tell
everyone when they first ask about a friendship. By the
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Speaker 2 (00:57):
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Speaker 4 (00:59):
So let me also say that our whole thing is
playing video games online a couple of times a week
like GTA, Baltersgate three and Stardow Valley. We also send
dumb memes to each other throughout the day and text
about work and current relationship stuff to get the straight
female or straight male opinion, depending on who's asking. But
we don't live close to each other, and I actually

(01:20):
haven't seen him in person in two years since he
came to help me install flooring into one room of
my new house after I bought it.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's a very nice of him, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
He Late in twenty twenty four, George started dating Sarah,
thirty one, female who we met while away at Air
Force training in Texas. I was insanely happy to see
him talking to her because up until then he was
only seeing girls who were some sort of project for him.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
I say seeing because aside from one, he was a
legit f boy and as soon as a woman started
forming feelings he would start to ghost them and make
them feel crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
That's not good, that's bad, that is bad.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Don't that bad, Don't do that, don't do that. Always
after getting his fun times and I was tired of
the drama, he would always complain about that he had caused,
and yes, I pointed out that it was his fault.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Ninety percent of the time. Good friend.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Anyway, when he started talking to Sarah, it was great.
She's smart, has a great job, has a good head
on her shoulders, and had a ton in common with him.
He stopped talking to the one ex he couldn't quit
because but Who was super toxic for him. She was
married and blamed all her problems on him. George would
go down to see Sarah and her two sons because

(02:36):
she is still down in Texas, and he would tell
me about it, and I could tell that this was different.
I would tell him to take his time and don't rush,
because in the past that always led to ghosting. It
was promising to see him in an adult relationship. Starting
in twenty twenty five, I started to realize something. So
when I was on the headset with George during video games,

(02:58):
a lot of times she would call to chat with him,
and because he didn't want to quit the game, he'd
leave the headset on so we could still communicate. Sarah
asked what he was up to, and he said that
he was playing games, and when she asked with who,
he simply stated the one other.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Guy in the group. Uh uh so not.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
This happened a couple more times before I pointed out
to him and asked what the heck was going on.
George told me that Sarah didn't like the fact that
he had a female bro and it was just easier
to pretend that I wasn't there or else.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
She got upset and didn't talk to him.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I told him I didn't like that because it made
me feel like I was the other woman and I
literally wasn't doing anything wrong. He told me that I
was making it a bigger deal than it was and
just let him handle it, so I dropped it. Over
the next several months, several more things happened. She added
me on Facebook, which I didn't mind at all because
I was all about transparency and thought it would be

(03:51):
better to see that I was involved with another guy romantically,
not George.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Sarah, on one of.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
His visits to her, asked if she bought a PS
five and online he would spend his free evenings playing
with her sons when he was back away at home.
He said he had already played with them on the switch,
but the PS five is more for him and his
bros and the games that they played.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
She also got a hold.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Of his phone and looked through his messages and saw
all the memes that we were sending to each other
on Instagram and Facebook, again, all about sports games or
the new Harry Potter. But she asked him why he
didn't send her that kind of stuff. These last two
examples he told me about after the fact. So we
come to a couple of days ago, he and I
are talking and after one joke, he tells me, why
can't you be attracted to the same gender?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Haha.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
I asked him what that's supposed to mean, and he
tells me, well, then my current girlfriend wouldn't constantly be
jealous and yelling about and yelling at me about talking
to you.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Dude, why are you in a relationship with this girl?
This is not someone we want. Why are you in
a relationship with this girl? YI stude.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
At this point, after months of hearing him complain about
this issue, I finally snapped. I told him I understood
that she had been hurt in the past. She on twice,
and I knew that that took some healing, but he
needed to man up and talk to her about these
trust issues because I was not going to keep acting
like we weren't hanging out or talking. He started to
get annoyed and we started arguing because he said, as usual,
it wasn't that big of a problem. I asked him,

(05:14):
because they had talked about possible marriage. Had he told
her that I was going to be one of his groomsmen,
a plan that we've had for years, as well as
him being one of my bridesmaids. His response was that
he would just surprise her when it was too late
to turn back.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
You're not ready to get married to this woman. This
is not something you should do, George.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
George, I'm gonna bring this up, something that's gonna upset
you when.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
You are well, you already locked in.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
He already is it's too late, You can't get no
taking back, exactly, no dag backs.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
My gosh.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I couldn't believe how thick headed he was being, and said,
what are you going to do.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
When she asks you for her to stop talking to
me to make her happy? He yelled back, She's not
like the other girls. She's not gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Finally, I said, you need to grow a pair and
be honest and acknowledge that yes we are hanging out
but online and talking, but that you love her, and
make it clearer that you and I are nothing but friends.
I told him to invite her to one of our
gaming sessions, or invite her up to his house.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I will drive the four hours too, bring the guy
that I'm seeing, and we could hang out.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
She could get to know me face to face and
see how and see that how we interacted had very
big sapling vibes. But anything to make her more comfortable
with anything. He said, No, he wasn't comfortable with that.
I emphasized that he needed to do it, or else
I was going to reach.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Out to her myself. He got really mad at that
and told me that I was not to talk to her. Well, now, yeah, okay,
that's weird. Yeah, why do you want to keep them apart? Yeah?
Why aren't you comfortable with them talking? Strange?

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, either he actually does have feelings, or or he
doesn't see that this is a problem, or he's scared
of his girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
There's a multitude of ones, answers, a lot of options
that could be wrong with this situation.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I stopped talking to him the past couple of days.
He's been acting like nothing had happened, sending me stuff
and trying to play online.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
But I've denied or.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Not responded to anything. So am I being the ale
telling him that he needs to deal with Sarah's trust
issues with our friendship, and there is an update two
months later, but definitely not.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
The able, no way.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, he's the one that just has not ever understood
how to not be toxic in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
He literally has never had seemingly a good relationship. Yeah,
no matter how might try to convince him. Yeah, yeah,
now he's talking gar Come on, dude, be real.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
It's been a few months and some things have happened,
so I thought I would offer an update on everything.
George was still not confronting the issue that his girlfriend
had about our friendship. He has told me that she'd
brought it up that if she was talking to another
guy as much as he was talking to me, then
he would be.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Super jealous of that.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
For a while, it was the same stuff, acting like
we weren't playing video games, when we were not bringing
me up, et cetera. Things escalated last week when all
of a sudden, George messages me and says, Hey, I'm
trying to keep Sarah's crazy down, so I'm going to
remove our friendships from social media, but we're still homies.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Crazy. You're the one who is making her feel like
there's something going on between you and op yeah, because
you meet. Yeah, I would be suspicious too if I
was like, hey, would love to meet your friend and
if you're hiding her, Like.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
If if I was suspicious of a friendship and I
was like, hey, like just gonna throw it out there,
like what's going on there?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:44):
And he's like, oh, it's nothing. But then like later
it's like, oh, no, I'm not hanging out with her.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, he's lying every time.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
It's like, okay, well I just immediately you yeah, yeah,
so it's both of them are the a whole, not
you op yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
And then promptly he does just that.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
I go off on him and tell him that if
he's playing these games, then we aren't friends anymore, because
I am not some side chick of a friendship, especially
when I'm not doing anything wrong. He complained that he
thought I would be more of a bro about this,
but said that he was just trying to stop from
getting yelled at, and since that plan had clearly not worked,
he re added me to everything immediately.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
This still had taken me off.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
So when yesterday hit, I noticed the two gifts that
I posted on to his post out of twelve posts
for the day, yes I counted, had been removed by him.
I once again called him out on it. His response
once again was I feel a bunch of crazy witching
coming my way again. If Sarah sees this. I had
had enough. As mentioned before, Sarah and I are friends

(09:46):
on Facebook, a move I had no issue with because
that way she would be able to look into me
and see what I was all about. So, because we're
friends on Facebook, I messaged her the following, Hey, I
just wanted to take the time to personally reach out.
I became aware that George was really a slight idiot
when it comes to communication, so I figure that this
was the best way to do this.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
If you ever want to ask me anything, feel free to.
As a fellow female, I know what it's like to
have this other random girl that you don't know anything about.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
There any normal woman gets that loo And like I said,
George's emotional communication is poop. When I asked him if
he ever actually explained our friendship in detailed to you,
he just goes, I don't know, maybe try too early.
On the point is, if you ever want to ask
anything or clarification or details.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I would be happy to answer anything you have.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I promise you I have absolutely zero interest in him
other than that target practice for fireballs and games or
to hit him with the car.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And I really want you to to work out.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
I've been the big Sarah supporter since before you guys
were talking, because I could see that you were the
first appropriate girl with a great head on her shoulders
and wasn't insane total package. I told him and said
that he would be an idiot if he messed this up.
I don't think you would be an idiot if he
I mean, the way he is messing up is definitely
idiot behavior.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's just not free. But I disagree. I don't think
for each other.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think it's gonna be fine if this relationship ends
and if she doesn't want to continue, because I don't
think she's a total package.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
She yells at him. Think either of them are any
sort of package.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Also, I would love to invite you some time to
play video games with us and chat on Discord. I
know you and your boys have a switch, but I'm
sure we could find cross platform kid friendly games like
Fall Guys or Starty Valley sometime. All this to say,
I hope we get the chance to actually get to
know each other instead of him just springing me on
you as as was his plan. And if you want to,
feel free to let him know that I reached out.

(11:33):
I kind of let him have it this morning when
we were having this discussion, so knowing me, he wouldn't
be so shocked that I did this.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Haha.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
So I said this to her and waited, and about
three hours later I got this response.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
So mad. She's gonna be so much. He's gotta be pissed.
I can already smell the reply from her. She's gonna
be eaved. It's all good. You have nothing to explain.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Oh early on I was if he just stuff how
things were said, but I told him that I would
never come in between a friendship, especially that he knew
before me. I just asked him to think how he
would react if the roles were reversed, and to understand
that most women would not be okay with it. So
know how much I do trust him.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Dude, she's totally wrong.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
When she's normal's person, she might shot either.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
He's a liar, she's lying right now, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I don't think she was.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
He's an unreliable narrator.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh my god, she's not crazy and insane. He's a
liar and emotionally immature. But the line of most women
would not be okay with it. I disagree. I'd be
okay with it having a friend like I so most
of my friends are men. Yeah, I don't. I don't
like that. Wasn't planned, It just happened, just happened. Yeah,

(12:50):
I don't. I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
It was sweet of you to reach out, though, and
I really appreciate it. You can message him as much
as you want, and you don't ever have to stop
commenting on anything or not have a conversation with him,
or feel like you can't talk to him. I respect
El's friendship and wouldn't want to come between that. He
said that he was going to message you, and I
told him absolutely know that it wasn't that serious, So
I'm sorry if it was made out to be more than.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
What it is.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
She and I continued chatting for about an hour about monopoly,
her kids are different states, etc. It was awesome to
actually get to talk to her as a person. What
I hadn't known was that George had never told her
that I knew he had told me that she was
uncomfortable with some things, which I had assumed that he
had because he would say, Sarah asked me to ask
you insert one of the requests here. So when I

(13:36):
wrote so, when I wrote that, I was under the
assumption that she knew I was aware of things.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
This, I will say one hundred percent my bad for assuming.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
George starts blowing up my phone freaking out on me
because now Sarah facetimed him and asked if he told
me any of the things that she had told him,
and telling him now that this was such a huge loss.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Of trust for her with him, and just getting angrier.
So he's mad at you for some thing he did
in his relationship. Cool, got it? Love it.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
He started chewing me out about how dare I talk
to her and I'm not involved and what gives me
the right? I told him, well, I'm not in the relationship.
I was involved because he made me involved by not
having the balls to simply talk to her because he
didn't want any kind of argument, and I was tired
of having to hide that I existed for his comfort.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Just crazy because he kept having arguments. Yeah, literally probably
would have less if he talked to her.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Right then while keeping him as a friend, she removed
all pictures and tags of him suddenly on her Facebook page,
And boy did I soon find out why.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
There is a little bit more to the story, but
I think I think either they just broke up, yeah,
or she got that he cheated.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Mmmm my other option that would be interesting, That would
be interesting.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
See the part in my message where I was talking
her up and saying that she was a total package
and like the other girls, Well, she didn't know about
the other girls.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Freaking call, I thought, So I knew, I knew it
from the freaking beginning. Yeah. Op told us that he
was terrible in all of his other relationships. There was
no way that he just magically figured out how to
be in a relationship, especially because he didn't know how
to do anything else in this relationship.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, and I did wonder that too about about Op's message,
like he did. She didn't mention like like, yeah, like
he hasn't been in serious relationships before, or like he
was not in healthy relationships before, and she'd probably be like,
so what happened in those other relationships?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Then?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
George had only told her about the one, which, in
defense was the only serious one, but never mentioned any
of the others that he was with for maybe a
couple of months at the time, and there were many.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Okay, so he didn't cheat. He just didn't tell this
exact relation exactly.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
In his apparent reasoning, she was too emotional, and even
when he brought up the one, she would get in
a mood, so to not make her upset and angry,
he just acted like he had the one.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't even believe him anymore.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
When she reread the implication that there had been more
than one to compare her to, she lost it on
him even more, asking if anything about the relationship was truthful,
and then cutting off communication to him for the night.
He of course kept flipping out on me for another hour,
saying that I had ruined the only relationship he's ever cared.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
About, et cetera, et cetera. Dude, I would not let
him go on for an hour. I block. Yeah, Like, dude,
I don't want to be friends with you anymore. Sarah,
seems very cooler. You also ruined this relationship. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
As of writing this post the next day, everyone's still
friends on everyone's social media, But I'm giving him some space,
not only to let him breathe, but also I'm still
pissed off that he's been alright treating me like crap
and not caring if my feelings were hurt, even as
just the friend, all the while expecting me to be
fine with it.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
And that is the end of that story. Wow, dude, yikes, dude,
you don't know how to do relationships.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, but it's just lies. Man, there's lies. Don't be
friends with him anymore, friends with a good friend, don't
be friends with people like this. You have to hide
your friendship. Yeah, you were just gonna say, don't be
friends with people, don't be.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Friends with people, stop, and I can't be can't be
friends anymore, So we go, workers're per person. My friend
lied to me about her wedding. Now I'm finally done. Liar, liar,
pants on fire. I twenty nine female have been friends
with Bailey twenty nine females since we met at our
college job in twenty sixteen. Over the past nine years,

(17:28):
I've watched Bailey kiss a lot of frogs. Ain't that
the truth system? That's such a good way to put it.
In twenty twenty three, she met Nathan thirty one, male
who immediately seemed different. After dating for around a year
and a half, Bailey and Nathan announced their plans to
get married. I was supportive, as I've spent a lot
of time with Nathan and think he's a great guy

(17:49):
who treats Bailey well. By the way, this comes from
rather glad and if you want to spend your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay story time separate it. So,
since the first year of our friendship, Bailey has called
me her best friend and talked about me being the
maid of honor in her wedding, even though she has
a sister and is still in touch with her childhood
best friend. I am fairly indifferent about being a maid

(18:10):
of honor and never asked her or told her this
was important to me, so she wasn't saying it to
shut me up because she thought I needed to hear it, etc.
In fact, I remember being taken aback at first. Over
the past few years, Bailey has met and gotten close
with several other girls, in particular Kay, who I think
is really Bailey's closest friend for some reason, even after

(18:32):
meeting other girls and becoming closer with them, in my opinion,
which is normal. She has continued to insist that I
am her best friend and will be her maid of honor.
I moved across the country for work in twenty twenty two,
and while Bailey remained in our home state on the
East Coast. We live in the US. I visit home
multiple times per year. Last summer, I went on a

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trip with Bailey, Nathan, and Bailey's cousin, Mila, twenty two
females who Bailey has only become close with in the
last two years. This is when Bailey and Nathan told
us their plans to get married. At the time of
the trip, Nathan already had Bailey's engagement ring, which she
had selected and ordered for herself and had delivered to

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Nathan's parents' house. Nathan wanted to propose on the trip,
but Bailey told him not to. Ultimately, Bailey ended up
planning her own proposal with the help of her cousin, Mila,
and her friend, who is a photographer. Bailey called me
multiple times per week, for hours at a time, so
I stayed updated on the proposal planning. I once sat

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in my car until I was late for work meeting
because Bailey called me anxious about the proposal. I remember
thinking at the time that I would probably have been
a more active participant in the planning if I hadn't
made the choice to move so far away, which made
me a bit sad. As the plans for the proposal materialized,
it became clear that there would be an engagement celebration

(19:57):
right after, and that most of Bailey's girlfriends, her cousin,
and Nathan's family would be in attendance. At this point,
I expressed to Bailey that I wanted to buy a
plane ticket so that I could attend the engagement celebration,
but she told me not to and became vague about
the final date and location of the engagement. A week
before the planned proposal, in October twenty twenty four, Bailey

(20:18):
called to let me know that she and Nathan had
gotten married in the courthouse. Ugh, but swore me to secrecy.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Oom.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
What but like I thought I was your best friend. Yeah, Like,
this is the person who's supposedly going to be your
maid of honor and you didn't even tell her that
you were getting married, right. The engagement celebration proceeded with
Bailey's other girlfriends having no knowledge that she was in
fact already married. After the proposal, Bailey called to tell
me that she was engaged and to ask me to

(20:48):
be a bridesmaid in her official wedding ceremony in April
of twenty twenty six. She was very matter of fact,
explaining that she had chosen her cousin Mila as the
maid of honor and because of her experience and event planning,
which is also the field I work. It Ah, liar, liar.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Tell me why, Just tell me why.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
You don't go straight up to be honest.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Stop m lying yeah, if you don't, If you just don't,
wom me there, just say it, say it.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Dragging me along. Even though Bailey had selected an official
date at the end of April for the wedding, she
was still choosing between a number of dates between March
and April for her bridal shower and bachelorette. One day,
she was considering a music festival, the next a winery.
When I was asked to be in a family member's
wedding in early April, I checked in with Bailey so

(21:36):
that I could prioritize her bachelorette and bridal shower before
answering my family member. Bailey responded that she didn't expect
me to attend the bachelorette and bridal shower. This was
also in a matter of fact, oh no worries kind
of tone, not like a vindictive Well if your relative matters, Marty,
you then just at me. I guess I was taken
aback and expressed to Bailey that I wanted to attend

(21:58):
her bachelorette and bride shower and would do whatever it
takes to be there. She said she would get back
to me. In February twenty twenty five, Bailey sent invitations
via group text to her dress fitting, which is taking
place this upcoming weekend in July. I immediately bought my
plane ticket. A month or two later, Bailey called me

(22:19):
and said that she was canceling her wedding and instead
planned to Elope.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
What, You're already married, you already Elope, You already eloped that,
you already did it.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You're not planning to a lope. You did that, You
did that part. Good thing I hadn't bought my dress,
which Bailey had already picked for me, or plane ticket
for April gosh. The good news was that the dress
fitting weekend was still on, with Bailey ordering four dresses.
From a website think Amazon or Sheen nikes yiked to
try at her house before we got petticures as a group.

(22:51):
Earlier this month, July twenty twenty five, I got a
random text from Bailey in the middle of the day
that said elopement in the Pacific Northwest twenty six No
specific date, location, or plan for how the bridesmaid's factor in,
if at all. The next day, on the phone, Bailey
explained that her new plan was to drive to and

(23:11):
from a national park in the Pacific Northwest from the
East Coast, camping in the trunk of her car with Nathan.
Bridesmaids will stay in a cabin. She hasn't looked at
cabins yet but is certain they'll have bunk beds. Then
drive into the national park to watch Bailey and Nathan
exchange vows and take photos. Bailey explained her hesitation about
telling the other bridesmaids about the change and plans, as

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the new date excludes at least two would be bridesmaids.
She then told me that I'll be expected to rent
an suv to drive myself and others into the National Park.
I own an suv, but don't live in driving distance
from the Pacific Northwest and would need to fly. I
honestly didn't say anything because at this point I'm not

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convinced her plans won't change several more times in the
next year. I honestly would be like, sorry, I can't
make it, and she's like, I haven't told you yet.
I wouldn't want to. This is too much.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, and deciding for you that you're gonna be a
chauffeur for everyone else, Like that's not how it works.
You talk to them and ask like, hey, like maybe
we can figure this out.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Would you be able to do this? You know, like, okay,
so you're gonna drive these people.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
You're gonna rent out a SVUV even though you have one,
and then you're gonna drive everyone up there.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Okay, thanks you. I honestly think you just have to
sit her down and be like, hey, it feels like
you don't you know, you don't have the plans really
setting stone. Yeah, I need a little bit more time,
a little bit more heads up, right, Like I can't
can't be switching it up like you can. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah. Fast forward to today one week, Shy I have
the first get together of all the bridees baids. I
know that Bailey is already legally married and no longer
planning the April twenty twenty six wedding we were originally
invited to. Some of the other girls know of only
one or neither of these developments. Bailey says she plans
to update everyone when we are together next weekend. She

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texts the group chat to confirm plans. Suddenly, seve real
people can't get off work, including the maid of honor
twenty two year old cousin. Others are asking what the
plans are besides looking at dress options. Are we going
out to eat, going to the lake? Should I ask
off work for Sunday or just Saturday? Should I make
brunch plans or hold off? Bailey calls me frustrated. First

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of all, her maid of honor is flaking. Secondly, she
hasn't yet ordered her dresses online and now it's too late,
so I'll have to FaceTime us at a later date
when they arrive. And finally, she doesn't want to make
plans for most of the weekend as it's too much
overhead as an event planner. Lol. I point out that
a lot of friends are taking time off work and

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or are driving into town. I'm the only one flying
in and they want to celebrate her. They may benefit
from some structure to help them plan. I remind her
that she mentioned going to the lake on Sunday. She
says she does want to take her friend's boat out
on the lake. Friend is not invited to the wedding
or elopement, or maybe go to her other friend's pool.
That friend is also not in the wedding or lopeman party,

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but she doesn't care who comes, so she'll just figure
out where she's going and then tell everyone they can
tag along if they want. These are people who flew
and drove in to see her. I tell her that
it's really important to me to plan my weekend around
her events, since I'm coming into town for her special
bridal dress weekend. She says she doesn't care if I
come to the pool, lake, or wherever she's going, and

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not to plan my trip around it because it might
be too inconvenient for me to find a ride there.
Both are right by her house, where I was supposed
to be staying until she told me that I can
no longer sleep at her house because I might be
allergic to her cat I have a cat, and also
because she promised her other friend that she can stay
there and is now overbooked. Eventually, I tell her I

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can only speak for myself, but I find it a
bit of a morale un alive to be constantly told, oh,
I don't care if you come or not, or you
don't need to be there, and I'm guessing her other
bridesmaids might feel the same. Bailey gets defensive, saying she's
a being a people pleaser and simply doesn't want a
burden her friends. I tried to appeal to that experience,

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which I share, but things just aren't adding up. Bailey
and I have been friends for nine years. Between us,
that's eighteen birthdays. Every year I invite her to celebrate
my birthday. Sometimes I do a dinner with friends. Sometimes
it's a trip with a smaller group. After celebrating my
birthday in the first year of our friendship my twenty first,
which was a bark roll, she never celebrated with me

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ever again. Every year I asked her what she's doing
for a birthday, asked to come along on her birthday trip,
or offer to fly to her for a birthday, but
she always says no. This included last year when she
used benefits I shared with her to book a hotel
with my company. I ended up being invited at the
last minute when her other friends canceled, likely because I

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get free hotels days from my company. We had fun together, though,
so afterward I asked if I could come with her
group to a concert she was flying to, which is
in driving distance of me. She said no. Instead, she
promised to drive to my location after the concerts and
spend a week together, but she canceled. I have visited
her around ten times since moving away, but she has

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never visited me, though I usually see other friends and
family in my hometown when I visit. At different points
in life, one or the other of us might have
been better off financially at this point. Bailey is definitely
more financially stable than I am, and regularly takes trips
with other friends, such as k When I invite her
to free or discount a trips sponsored by my company,

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she has never gone, though sometimes she will tell me
she'll go, then cancel last minute. This is just a
theme for Bailey.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I just hope in reading or writing this out, you
see how one side of this relationship is yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, big time. Bailey keeps bailing bailing the plans, so Drew,
I'll be here a week. Every year, I make a
birthday post for her on Instagram. She makes posts for
all our other friends, including girls I've never even heard of.
I've met all of her friends, and she tells me
about a lot of people. She has also never posted

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a picture with me, but calls me her best friend.
I feel like she doesn't actually have any real friends,
and so she expects you to be that even though
she's not actually putting any effort. Go ahead, call me
an idiot and a doormat.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I was.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
That's the old me, and this friendship is a relic
of my old life. I've recently gone through a lot
of changes. I just finished my Saturn return ha ha,
and left my former career in addition to several toxic relationships.
This is the kind of relationship that seemed normal to
me in my early years. I went to a lot
of therapy, and it feels like finally getting prescription eyeglasses

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and putting them on after needing them for my whole life.
I care about Bailey, but if I met her today,
I don't think we'd be friends. Probably not in hindsight,
I don't know if we ever were. Bailey and Nathan
have used me as a witness in Nathan's case for
permanent residency. Yep, and I recently had to write and
swear a AFFI David, attesting to my friendship with Bailey

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and her relationship with Nathan. I wrote this beautiful story
of our friendship and how it made me a better person.
I made myself cry writing it. Bailey read it and
had basically no reaction. I realized that my version of
the friendship wasn't both of our reality. Unsurprisingly, today's phone
call spiraled into an hour long argument, where alternative histories
emerged that she didn't know she was being proposed to,

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or that Nathan had a ring. She planned it, though,
go that I never invited her to plans. I remembered
her canceling that she suddenly forgets every conversation we've ever had,
including very recent ones with text receipts. She told me
that for our whole friendship, she assumed I didn't like trips.
I work for a travel company, have a travel themed Instagram,

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constantly travel and invite her on trips. But okay, when
corrected she said she just didn't want to inconvenience me.
For example, she told me she I'd be too tired
for a trip to Europe, though she has taken multiple
trips to Europe with Kay and other friends. She even
started to blame Nathan for her poor treatment of me,

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insisting that she was doing me a favor by not
inviting me to her engagement because he would have stressed
me out. I've traveled well with Nathan before, and he's
extremely calm and go with a float. She's such a liar. Yeah,
she's just making stuff up. She was grasping at straws
anything to avoid apologizing or at least admitting she saw

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my perspective. I told her it's fine with me if
she doesn't have fun traveling with me, but I'm asking
her to be honest with me instead of beating around
the bush. She insisted she's just been trying to watch
out for me and do me a favor by leaving
me out a plan she thought I wouldn't like. I
eventually gave up and told her I'm really happy for
her and Nathan and just wanted to say my piece

(31:49):
so it didn't affect the wedding. Then hung up because
I had to go to work times own difference. While
I was at work, she texted me links to random
tiktoks like nothing had happened, realizing that it may be
best for me to withdraw from Bailey's wedding. If there
even is a wedding and all associated festivities, would I
be the a hole? Do you have any final thoughts

(32:11):
for a Pierre? You would definitely not be the a hole?

Speaker 4 (32:13):
No, No, I mean if she you have noticed with
so many examples of how she just doesn't care about you,
she just wants you to be there for her, and
like she yeah, she's just not a good friend, even
with her not planning things and just expecting everyone to
just change her plans all the time because she does
that all the time, Like.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
That's still rude to do to your friend.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
And then she's yeah, she doesn't seem like she cares
at all about your friendship or about your feelings like.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Some other context. Bailey has more friends than me, and
though I do have a few close friends in addition
to Bailey, and is more extroverted but has more social problems.
She's been fired from multiple jobs and was punted out
of her sorority, but will never explain and genuinely doesn't
seem to understand why we met at twenty in or
out twenty nine. I hoped we would see eye to

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eye as we got older, but in many ways her
understanding of the world seems to have changed very little
since age twenty. Bailey used to come to me for
advice like I was a big sister, but over the
past year has started to correct everything I do. The example,
I got Invisilne and she told me I was wearing
the wrong rubber bands because they're not the kind her
orthodontis gave her in seventh grade. Bailey calls me multiple

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times per week. She usually initiates our contact, sometimes every day.
We talked for hours, and the conversation is usually more
focused around her life. I recently lost fifty pounds and
gained a lot of confidence through therapy in addition to
the esthetic changes from weight loss and in Divisiligne. She
mentioned wanting to get in Visilne and lose weight as well,
but hasn't yet. She also explicitly told me that the

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bride's may dress she chose for me was selected so
that I wouldn't outshine her. I'm not known to dress flashy.
I'm not sure if we're wearing bridesmaydresses anymore. Hey, it's Sam.
We'll get back to the stories. But here's three minutes
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Speaker 4 (34:05):
My wife betrayed me with my stepfather. I want to
tell my mother.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Tell her. I'm telling my mommy on you.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
I'm sorry if this is a little much, I've been
sitting in my car for a few hours.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Sorry for errors. I'm on mobile. OK. I will never
forgive you for any of it. Get out.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
My wife and I have been married for four years.
We argue sometimes over little things, but I love her
with all my heart.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
There's never been anything wrong. Until now, I thought we
were happy.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I always treated her right and listened to her. I
took her out whenever she wanted, and studied with her.
By the way, this comes from at times, Hugh streets
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to be ours slash. Okay, storytime separated it. So she
doesn't work because she's getting her degree right now. So
I gladly pay for everything and work overtime constantly because
I wanted her to be great.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
She goes to classes nearly full.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Time and spends the rest of her time home or
at her school library.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I'm not close to my mother at all, but I
see her from time to time.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Recently we've been trying to reconnect, but she's just really
not a good person. She was horrible to me growing up,
but I tried to forgive her for her personality and actions.
She has a lot of bad habits and had two
failed marriages with really crappy dudes. She recently got remarried
to another man two years ago, let's call him X.
My mother invites me and my wife and it's the

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first time they all meet, probably fourth time I've met
him since they married fairly quickly. He seemed okay, just
really didn't like his vime too much, but I gave
him the benefit of the doubt because at the end
of the day, it's.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Her life, not mine, and we aren't even closed. Uh.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Last year, X asks for help remodeling my mother's house
for the day. My wife suggests that we stay for
the week and make it a bonding thing.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I agreed.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I thought we could all do things together, but we
ended up breaking into little teams. X and my wife
really hit it off, and I'm not very good with
construction and renovation related things. I ended up going out
with my mother a few times to eat in an
attempt bond with her. It was weird, but we tried.
My wife stayed behind and I helped X remodel. Her
family is really involved in the construction and engineering world,

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so she knew much more than I did about how
to help.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Fix the house up.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
They seemed to be really close that week, aka sharing
jokes and laughing a lot when I wasn't around, and
super animated conversations, but I didn't think much of it
because I.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Assumed she was just being nice to my new stepfather. You, oh,
mister X, mister city. Why was too big? You know,
like in spicy in the city. Oh yeah, big, yep.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Anyway, I trusted my wife. She started going back over
to my mother's house to help X out afterwards. They
live almost an hour away, so it's out of the way.
I noticed when she'd be coming home way later than
normal and decided to take the train instead of.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Me picking her up. Uh.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
She kept saying a library at first, before she admitted
to going there to help renovate. Since I wasn't much
help in terms of helping my mom fix up the place.
It was like once or twice a week. This started
happening early this year when the house was finished late spring.
They kept hanging out, which I didn't mind. I guess
that makes me stupid. When her classes ended in summer,
we stopped spending as much time together, but she made

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nothing seem wrong. She seemed happy. Our spicy sleep life
was the same. We were trying for a baby. Everything
was good, even communication.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Are you sure, buddy, Are you sure?

Speaker 4 (37:38):
I tried to go with her to my mom's place,
but she was usually with her friends when she wasn't home,
and I didn't really like excess humor and mannerisms. I
didn't mind. I worked a lot and liked to be alonesometimes.
A few weeks ago, she got home late again and
went to shower. Always joked that she'd use up all
the city's water with how long she showered. She was
in there bits, probably when I am when her phone

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and vibrated row.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
It does this like four to five times in a
few minutes.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Anyway, I didn't want to invade her privacy, but that's
very abnormal. A chapter screen to see what it was,
and I recognized the number it was X's and a reminder.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
This is around one am.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
He sent multiple MMS messages with his face and nude pets.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
You Peepe's out out. This is disgusting. Oh my gosh,
you sicken me away the very weplies ew.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
There were replies from her with nude photos that were recent.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Oh lord, what would you call that? Pepe's TT's out,
She's out away. No one wants to see your TETs.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Just a lot of words I haven't processed yet. I
took an extended screenshot of it. It took a few
minutes and mailed it to myself and put the message
on on read so she wouldn't know I saw.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I really wish I didn't. I really would have honestly.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Just not have known and kept everything perfect. There are
months of texts, blocks of texts and photos and heart emojis.
What how long have we been knowing about this X guy?
Though I thought the mom will only recently.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Started dating him. That's wild.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
It took a few days off work the following morning
and flew down to see an old friend who lives
in the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
He's hooking me up with a month to month studio.
No questions asked. Since we don't talk much anymore, she
doesn't know I'm leaving in January, which is when our
lease is up.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
WHOA.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I told her it was a trip for work, and
she just smiled and told me to have fun and
that she'd miss me. Yeah, you get to miss me.
You missed me a whole lot because I ain't never
coming back. Yeah, She's probably like, oh my gosh, like,
oh miss you so much.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
And then she's like, Tommy, I'm gonna had the house
alone and I could have peeps all the.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Time, call me the owner and call me the owner
and hatchie because I ain't never coming back.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
I came back and she didn't seem any different. Our
anniversary is the day before Christmas Eve. I haven't told
my mother, not sure how or if I want to.
I haven't told anyone except you read it. I want
to get out of here and I want to be
alone and think it's been a while, but.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I know, you see you're gonna leave, and Genie, maybe
I'm gonna tell everyone.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
I know it's been a while, but I still haven't
had the heart to go through all of the texts
and photos. I feel like reading it all would make
it all worse for me. I already feel broken and empty.
I left my friends behind for her and started a
life with her. I thought she was happy.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
We have been trying to get pregnant slightly before and
around the time that I found out, and we're supposed
to go to check in with the docs after the holidays.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Well, thank goodness she didn't get pregnant. I need some
time to think, and I need to know how to
fix this with my wife. How do I tell my mother?
I love my wife with everything.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
She's all I have. I gave her everything these last
four plus years. I can't just divorce, and she gave
everything to everyone. Yeah, he shir did. She's a kind
and giving person.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Alright, all right, I'm not going to follow in my
mother's footsteps. I know it all seems outrageous given that
he's married to my mother, but I don't have anyone
else to talk to.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I was supposed to be home. So this isn't a boyfriend,
this is they're married?

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Than well?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Noh oh pie, Yeah, everyone's married in this story.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
I know it all seems outrageous, given he's married to
my mother, but I don't have anyone else to talk to.
I was supposed to be home five hours ago, but
I don't think I can lay next to her anymore.
I've been forcing myself to try and get over it
and hope it just goes away, and it makes me
feel more and more disgusted with myself. I'm probably gonna
sleep in my car tonight. She's already called me three
times and I'm just exhausted emotionally. It hurts ignoring her calls.

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I'll try to check back for any answers later tomorrow
if I have the time. I'm sorry if this post
is a waste of your time, but I hope you
have advice and there is an update. What's their advice
to op in this situation?

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Leaves your life? She sucked. Yeah, find new teats, get
a hotel.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Don't let your wife's teats stop you from finding other TETs.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
She's already found other peeps. Yeah, exactly. All of these
peeps are out and it's not yours. You gotta go
find a place where's safe to have your peeps at man.
But then we got an update.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
We do have an update, though I wasn't going to
update as I'm not on here often and after going
through some of my comments.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I didn't know what to say, but things have changed
since my first post. After my post, I slept in
my car for a few hours and tried to go
back to work. I spent the entire day overthinking and crying.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Honestly, my boss suggested that I take some extra time off,
and I agreed. I've built up a very substantial amount
in savings that can cover us for a few years,
so I'm not worried about my My wife called and
texted me at twenty plus times, and I didn't answer
the comments I got telling me my wife was some
horrible person and that I should leave her.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It didn't help. I appreciate so many people offering what
they think was the right move, but they don't know
my wife.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
She's the best thing that has ever happened to me,
and before her, my life just felt like I was
on autopilot.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I decided after I left work that.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I couldn't go home because I didn't want to break
it down in front of her. But I also couldn't
just keep ignoring her, so I texted her, letting her
know that I know what she did, and I wasn't
ready to talk yet, but I'll be willing to talk.
At the end of the week, HI got an airbnb
for a few days and finally agreed to go home
and talk to her. It was the hardest talk I've

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ever had with someone. The problem was I wasn't really around,
and I was always working over time, and he made
her feel wanted and I see now that I should
have tried harder to be there for her. I told
her that it really hurt me finding out, though I
haven't yet told her how I know, especially considering he's
literally married to my mother and all the times I've
picked her up or her off from spending time with him.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
She apologized profusely. She told me it only happened once,
and then she admitted to texting him. Oh wait what so?

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Oh I mean I guess we could figure We figured, Yeah,
we at the same time.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I know, I've picked you up pretty late from his
house all those times. How can it only happen once? Well,
it definitely doesn't, because you guys were chit chatting for months.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Yeah, for months, dude, that's my mom's honey pictures.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
You're gonna have. You're gonna cheat on me, mom, bubbies,
that's crazy talk.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Dude, that's like crazy, messed up. She promised to never
speak to him again.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
She was a mess. I was a mess.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
I told her that I was considering spending some time
in Iowa at an old friend's place after our lease ended.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
But then she broke the best possible news, best bregger.
I don't believe her. Well, you guys were trying who
so what you want who with?

Speaker 4 (45:01):
I was apprehensive at first, but she promised me that
they had only ever been physical once and that was
the beginning of the year, which wouldn't add up to
her being pregnant now.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
And she's never lied before.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
We were intimate a few weeks prior to this post,
so I'm sure it's fine.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
She convinced me to stay, and I promised her we
would fix this together.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Boo.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
My father ditched me at a young age and left
me with my mother. I'm not going to abandon my
wife and my child over one mistake. I'm not like
my father or my mother. I'm going no contact with
both X and my mother. My wife suggested a clean
break from them would be the best move for our
new family.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Uh no, no, that's a bad step. The great guy
with your wife.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
I could understand not going contact with X, but she's
literally like, oh, yeah, the best way of our family
is to like, is to cut off, cut off your
affair and your mom.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
And also I'm not gonna cut off my burner though.
Uh oh, I can't talk to your mom because then
if you guys talk, then you'll know that I haven't
cut off.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Yeah, exactly exactly. She's like, you gotta cut them off
so we can hide our secrets.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yes, we gotta keep it.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
So I guess that means I will not be telling
my mother about what happened, nor will I confront X
about this. We're also considering whether we should move out
of the state or renew our lease. Since this is
all last minute. He wants to finish getting her degree
before we make any rash decisions, which makes sense, but
being so close to my mother an ex doesn't help.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Thank you all for your time and understanding.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
I'm sorry if this wasn't the kind of update you
were looking for, but you have to put your feelings
aside for the good of your family. My trust can
be rebuilt. I know I will never find another person
who loves me the way she does. And when you
find that. I feel like you should hold on to that.
I don't have anyone else here, and I don't think
i'd be able to live at if she left me.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I consider it self.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Harm and I found out, but I'm happy I didn't,
and we are now working on our marriage.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Ah, working on it. There's so much wrong with all
of that. Not working on your marriage. Oh, there are
more people that will love you like that. Come on
me personally, but other people.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Yeah, well sure, I'm going to invest more time doing
everything I can to make her happy.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Have a beautiful New Year's everyone at it.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
A lot of people are being unnecessarily rude and sending
me message up messages, calling me and my wife names.
I want to clarify. I do not believe my wife
would lie to me about a child. That's a monumental
lie and something we couldn't recover from.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, she knows that she wouldn't lie about a child.
That's actually a huge lie. She would just lie about
cheating on me for months.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Yeah, that's why she's not gonna let you find out
about it, because it would ruin.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Your whole relationship about Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
This is also the first and last time anything like
this has ever happened with us. I don't think of
paturning me test is necessary due to the fact that
they've only been together once and.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
That was a long time that she said she Dude,
I don't think a paternity test is necessary because she
told me that it wasn't. That's why craziest man is
wilfully ignorant. Honestly, look at the evidence.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Ye wow, her pregnancy correlates with the last time we
had spicy sleep, and it makes sense. My wife wouldn't
take advantage of me like that. She made a mistake,
but she's not a bad person. For months, I made
a lot of mistakes too that pushed her to cheat.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Oh what?

Speaker 4 (48:27):
And I'm not stupid and I know how it looks,
but I know my wife wouldn't just use me for
my money. Lastly, my wife suggested that we both go
no contact with my mother and ex as it would
be the easiest way to focus on each other.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
And he this is so hard to read. At a
number two, I changed my mind? Did I decided I'm
test tonight?

Speaker 4 (48:48):
That turned around so well real quick, as people have
stated that she shouldn't have a problem with.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
That if it is my child, Dude, that true. That
and that's the end of that story.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, that's like actually so wild. He's like, yeah, no,
it's like I don't need it because she told me
I didn't need it, right, And it's.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Like, yeah, yeah, I mean she was like hanging out
with him, but they weren't. They were doing nothing because
she told me they weren't doing it. I just like
to laugh and like talk and I send each other's peepies.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
That's it. They just have their peepies out. They're not
doing anything with them.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
No.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I refuse to have my husband's family around because they
won't stop smoking. I get that out of you. I
can't breathe stinky? Are we the a holes for wanting
to ask my husband's family to go outside of smoke?
My husband twenty eight male, and I twenty seven female,
have been invited to his aunt and uncle's house for
Thanksgiving this year, along with my father in law's father

(49:44):
in law immediate family. The uncle is father in law's brother.
To help connect things. By the way, this comes from
Mam twenty through twelve. But if you want to smit
your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime
severed it so my husband's parents are divorced, so the
holiday consists mostly of stress, running around to everyone's celebration,
and without a doubt, someone being upset that they didn't

(50:05):
get enough time. Add that to now having our first
child sixteen months that everyone wants to see and celebrate with,
and we've got ourselves a pretty large craft show. That
being said, we've been invited to go to his uncles
for Thanksgiving this year, and they live out of state.
This eliminates the requirement of running around, which my husband

(50:25):
really hates, so that alone makes him want to go. However,
his aunt and uncle smokes SIGs in their house. You
can't get that out. You can't get that out. We
went for Thanksgiving two years ago while I was pregnant
and they were smoking while sitting right next to me.
To those who may be thinking maybe they didn't know,

(50:47):
we told them in September when we found out, and
I was almost twenty weeks and showing at Thanksgiving, so
they knew anyway. We've previously mentioned the smoking to father
in law, who's been the one communica between us and
the uncle, and he said that they won't smoke around
said child. For those who know, and maybe those that don't.

(51:07):
Being in a different room doesn't indicate being affected by
the smoke. It makes everything smell like SIGs. You can
still be inhaling it. I personally get heinous migraines from it.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Me too.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
And the science is in we know it's extremely harmful
for children, so it's not great and we don't want
to put our child in that kind of environment. And also,
if you smoke in a house, I mean the smell lingers,
we don't feel like we can ask them to smoke outside,
though it will likely cause an issue. Given that any
previous request for accommodations, such as asking to be able
to spend time with my family and miss some of

(51:40):
their celebration, resulted in toxic conflict, we also feel it
may be disrespectful to ask them to change how they
operate in their own home. I think you can say, hey,
we got a baby, you can't smoke an ear. I
think you can say that.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I've always been taught that you should accommodate the guests
you invite into your space, and therefore a feel that
we should be able to ask this of them, especially
since we're asking with the health of our child in mind,
and not because we just want to be difficult. I
feel I should also add that respectfully declining the invitation
and the interest of the health of our child would
likely also knock over smoothly. I mean, at the end
of the day, you have to put your child's health

(52:16):
at like it, like, I don't even care if they
are upset about it. Your child health is the number
one priority.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Well, what about your own health?

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Because if you can't, it's sort of like the saying
of if you have to put a breathing mask on
first before you can help others.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Okay, well what it is, what it is if you're
the child's in my child before your health.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
But like also point, I'm thinking, like my point, I'm
thinking like if you've got to put the mask on.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
That different, I'm done. Different. I feel I should also
add that respectfully desclining the invitation and the interest of
the health of our child will likely also not go
over smoothly. Any invitation big or small, that we have
declined previously, regardless of the reason, and has been met
with hostility, it usually consists of both aggressive verbal conflicts
and emotional manipulation. So it feels a bit like unless

(53:09):
we just shut up and go or screwed no matter
what we do. I apologize for the lengthy post. I
wanted to make sure I gave enough detail for others
to understand. Please help. We're stressed and don't know what
to do or how to handle the situation. Are we
the A holes if we asked them to smoke outside
or on the garage while we're there? Are we the
A holes if we decline and stay home? Send help?

(53:29):
And there is an update? Folks, whoa But what what
is your answer? I mean like you could try inviting
them to your place? Well, I think regardless, you can
tell the thing is like, Okay, recently I went to
my friend's house. I was staying at my friend's house.
Good cats, and I'm allergic cats, And so I said, hey,
I'm allergic cats. Is there a way where i can like, well,

(53:51):
you know, okay, I'm talking. I'm talking my friend Caleb
in Chicago, Chicago. I was just there. I was staying
there fruit here. You don't know, y, I never met him,
Stop it anyway. The point is I asked him, I said, hey,
if you don't mind like washing, like keeping sheets away
from the cat, is there, you know, stuff just making
sure that, like, I'm not lying on cap for stuff,

(54:12):
and he ended up cleaning the house and stuff ended up.
I actually wasn't even allergic to his cat because it
was hypologetic. But that's not sious. But anyway, you're the
a hole. No, but house and the cat was not
the problem anyway. So the point is that you can
ask people to accommodate, and if they say no, that
is the right. But you can also say, oh, well,

(54:33):
I can't bring my baby around you. Yeah, exactly. It's
just like will I don't want my baby you're smoking,
and so I don't want to smoke a baby.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
Man, I want to smoke baby, however, baby, And then
you can, yeah, you can just be like yo, yeah,
I'm not coming over there, but you can come here.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
You're just no smoke's allowed. There's an update. A few things. First,
thank you to everyone who commented. We found it really educational.
Sometimes going to your friends who will always take your
side just it isn't enough. So it's nice to know
there are many strangers who think we're not insane. Second,
I asked my parents' opinion on the situation in the
interest of ensuring I didn't misunderstand the lesson I learned

(55:14):
in childhood. I accommodate the guests you invite in your space. Essentially,
they said the same thing the rest.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Of you did.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
We can't demand they do anything with their own home,
and we definitely can't ask upon arriving on their doorstep,
which was never the plan. Some of you commented that
we were well within our right to ask, as long
as we did so in advance. I should have clarified
that that was our intention, which is why we're asking now. Third,
I asked my brother's opinion as well, because he's really
good at looking at situations from all sides and providing

(55:42):
an unbiased opinion. Again, he said the same things as
you did, so that made us feel better. Lastly, there
were many of you said we need to grow backbones
or be adults little babies smoking babies at club baby
smoking babies. Well, you are correct, and we agree. The
development of backbones is currently work in progress. The toxicity

(56:02):
and manipulation that occurs with the side of his family
in particular is a fairly recent revelation for the both
of us.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Revelation.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I said that our eyes were not open to this
behavior until I was pregnant and our priorities shifted from
appeasing them to said child. So we're still in the
process of learning to identify the manipulation as it is
ever changing as we continue to be resistant and how
to handle the situation. While I am very well versed
in dealing with toxic family members in their tantrums, thanks Mama,

(56:32):
my husband's nat, we unfortunately cannot just turn off all
twenty five plus years of training he received to appease
and pacify them and instantly be good at putting our
foot down. We're getting there. Bobby's in therapy and it's
helpened a lot, but the holidays are especially difficult, so
we need a little extra help. As of right now,
I think our plan is to decline the invitation and

(56:54):
see the families we have here while doing our best
to keep our kiddo on schedule. The more I read
your comments about second and third hand smoke, the less
inclined we are to go. Yeah, we're still stressed, but
feel a bit better knowing we have people on our side.
Update to come, and there is an update, Let's jump
right in again. Thank you to everyone who commented and supported.
It really helps us to know that our choices are

(57:16):
correct when we're constantly told we're in the wrong. Second
Houp he called them on Tuesday, supposed to have been
a team effort. Him tackling these things alone has led
them to believe that he's just parroting my words and
not that we make these decisions together, thus aiding and
painting me is the bad guy. This was discussed and remedied.
What are your final thoughts, Well, I'm glad that we're

(57:37):
building some backbones. Build those backbones like legos. Yeah, exactly,
one by one. You know, it takes progress.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
It takes practice to stand up to people in general,
and then to stand up to your parents.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
It's so true hard to do.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Especially if you've never done that in your life.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Before you learn, it's to learn skill man for Yeah, no,
I don't love for trying. I think stand up to them.
And also, yeah, make sure child's not being exposed to
second hands. But yeah, so you don't have to go
to a thing. If people aren't willing to accommodate for
a baby, they don't have to accommodate. But if they're
not willing, you don't have to go any who I
be called and stated we would love to come and

(58:16):
see you for the holidays, but we don't want to
put our kid in that kind of environment and expose
them to those kinds of things. We know that's how
you choose to live your life, so we're not We're
going to respect that and politely say no, thank you.
They then returned with an offer not to spoke in
the house and to deep clean before we arrived. Honestly,
we're absolutely floored. Never in a million years do we
think they would offer that, let alone do so without

(58:36):
conflict or resistance. Well, I'm sure there will be things
said behind our backs or dirty looks shared while we're
not in the room. We don't really care. If it's
not important enough to say to my face, I don't
really need to know about it. At least dirty looks
won't give my kid diseases. We'll see if they actually
do what they say. So maybe it's not the last update.
And folks, that was the last update. As it was. Wow,

(58:59):
glad things were gonna be too. I'm like, keep your
kids away from second hands about yeah, yeah, keep we
ended up yeah yeah, exact, no smoking babies into baby
all smoking babies.

Speaker 7 (59:11):
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Speaker 5 (59:16):
My best friends turned on me just because I'm getting married?

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Did they turn laughter?

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Did they turn right?

Speaker 5 (59:22):
My friends Marie, Trish, Lucy, and Zia and I had
been a best friend group since middle school. Marie was
who I had grown closest to over the years. I've
known Trish the longest, but over time I realized she
had always kind of been a bully to me. By
the way, this comes from a Hunna hundred droughds and

(59:44):
if you want to see your own stories, go to
the r slash Okay storytime sub reddit. So Lucy's true
best friends were her family. I was the carefree friend
who bought the fun. Zia was a mute, and as
the title reads, the friendship ended after or I told
them I was getting married. We were all mid twenties
at the time, living in five different cities in four states,

(01:00:07):
furthering education in careers, and one had a kid, so
the friendship was ever changing. My husband and I have
been together since high school and had been working towards
marriage since college. He had an engagement ring for years
before the proposal, but our relationship went through things and
my expectations changed each time. I was pretty much waiting

(01:00:30):
for things to be perfect. I'm not one of those
people who fantasized about her dream wedding as a girl,
but did always talk about the marriage and the kids.
My latest non negotiable was that I wanted a private
and elaborate proposal. Of course, my best friends knew all
these things. After many conversations, my husband and I changed

(01:00:51):
our minds. We decided to get married before it got
cold at the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
End of the year.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
That left us roughly four months to plan the wedding,
but I I wasn't working, so I took on the challenge.
We had to travel back home to tour venues, so
when we finally found a place we liked in our
price range, they had two weekends available that fit our
timeline perfect. By this point, we were down to three
months and some change. Also, at the time, Marie and

(01:01:17):
Trish were in their first year of rigorous career programs.
They had warned the group before that they need three
months notice to take PTO. So I sent a text
to the group saying, hey, guys, I need everyone to
take this day off and be able to travel back home. Naturally,
They asked what's up, and I told them I was
getting married on that day. We texted more and I

(01:01:39):
told them I didn't really need anything else right now,
that my husband was going to propose soon, and to
give me two weeks to get all the details together.
They were shocked, but appeared to be happy in the messages.
Then I got a group FaceTime call. I was flustered
because I had just asked them for some time and
at the moment I was out at the store getting
things to make bridesmaid's boxes and didn't want them to know.

(01:02:03):
They asked about my timeline and I just told them
that we talked and we changed our minds. We're ready now.
Marie asked about parties and I let her know we're
not doing all of that. Trish asked about the colors
I chose, and everyone made general conversation. Then Marie and
Trish started discussing schedules. They were off on opposite weekends

(01:02:24):
on the two weeks that were available at the wedding venue.
We talked about how Marie would try to get PTO
and if Marie couldn't, then Trish would get PTO and
I could simply pick the other weekend, where Marie was
already off. Problem solved, we broke and planned to talk
again in a few days. That day came and went,
and I didn't hear anything, so I texted the group,

(01:02:44):
asking Marie for an update. Marie replied saying she's trying
and she'd hate to have me worrying about her, but
what if she can't get off. I got the vibe
that she'd gone to her program directors already and she'd
talk to Trish and the others, but just updated me.
So now I'm annoyed. Then Lucy brought up a family

(01:03:05):
trip she forgot to mention she had scheduled. Lucy makes
plans that never happen all the time, so it was
likely that nothing was even booked. Yet her mentioning her
vacation as if I should plan around that too was maddening.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I need to stop real fast.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
You are insane to think that everyone just needs to
work around a timeline that you picked to get married
that includes traveling to a different state.

Speaker 7 (01:03:27):
Yeah, it's kind of absurd to just be like everyone
should just immediately figure out how to make.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
This work and use your PTO that you might not
even be able to take yeah, you are insane so
far you.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
No like, all right, maybe let's figure out when everyone's
available first, and then if that's the priority, we planned
the wedding venue around dates where everyone's available.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
If you truly prioritized having any of them there, you
would have told them and figured out a date before
booking a venue. I said, very plainly, how I needed
an update to know if Trish needs to be requesting
PTO so I can secure my date asap. Would you
believe that Trish fixed her fingers to type to me?

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Is it do or die?

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
Nobody spoke up afterwards, so I instantly put my gloves
on and it's four v one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
You're really going about this in the worst possible way.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
You sound awful. I again, very plainly said that I'm
getting married on one of those two dates, and I'd
hate for anybody to miss it. In return, I got
more attitudes and was told I was acting like I
don't care. They were just being strange and mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Bro, that's you. That's what you're being. You're being strange mean.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
I reminded them they just asked me if my wedding
was a must. So, if that is the attitude you
have now, I'm sure I won't be missing any support
if you're not there on the day. Then I went
off a little and brought up another time years ago
I didn't feel celebrated.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Yeah, and then in parentheses, I messed up here.

Speaker 7 (01:04:56):
Yeah, of course you messed up here, because what are
you doing dragging years old beef?

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
You're being strange and weird.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
OPI I messed up here to emphasize my point that
I wasn't depending on them to enhance my experience. Marie
and Trish sent almost identical mocking messages implying my feelings
in the argument were invalid because I didn't confront them
in the previous incident. I brought up I'm mad, and
I never told anyone I was mad. How dare they

(01:05:25):
not come apologize? That's what you sound like?

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
Yeah, yeah, you're way off, You're way off base, heropie.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
I then told them how my wedding is about my marriage,
not a party for them. I called them out on
questioning my decision and talking behind my back like we
tended to do in the group. They got offended at
the fake accusation and pesteringly spam called me on group
face time. But truly I was unfazed, and it seemed
to infuriate them more. I knew going in that a

(01:05:55):
shotgun wedding meant some people would not be able to
make it, groomsmen included. I was going to adjust and improvise,
not be a bridezilla about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
That is such a lie.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
You were bridezilla first second.

Speaker 7 (01:06:08):
Immediately you're all your friends you wrote this, like all
your friends facetimed you and called you to like be like,
oh my god, wait, you're okay, you're getting married now,
Oh my god, what's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
What's going on? Where is it like? And you were like, yeah,
you're not even engaged. It was so annoying.

Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
I didn't even want them to call because I was like,
I told them to wait, and it's like, your vibes
are all weird.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
As far as they know too, and you aren't as
far as they really like, you're not engaged yet, they
wouldn't expect you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
To have a wedding in three months.

Speaker 8 (01:06:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Eventually I joined the call, and like I said earlier,
it's four v one. Marie was upset, saying where is
your ring? Trish was just glad I gave her a
reason to be hateful. She name called and critiqued me
as a person. Surely because her ego is bruised.

Speaker 7 (01:06:51):
Surely, not surely because you need things to be different
in your life. You sound eh, Yeah, yeah, let's just
let's just bang through this, because I don't think Ope
cannot act a ready self.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Reflection comments all the way.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
Lucy was supportive of them and dismissive to me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Zeo was mute, Yeah, you're a bad friend. I'm I'm
just gonna I'm just gonna say it. You're a bad friend.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
You're a terrible friend. I accuse them of not being
happy for me, reiterated the invalidness of the things they
were throwing in my face, and pretty much gave them
my butt to kiss. From what I can remember, Ultimately,
they all agreed that my wedding came out of nowhere.
They think I looked crazy because there was no proposal.
Their congratulations were reserved for when I got a ring.

(01:07:40):
They said, people don't do things like that, and I'm clueless.
But also, how dare I not make sure that they'll
all be there? Because they wouldn't have thought any of
those other things and been great bridesmaids if I had
just accommodated them, right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
No, you're missing the point.

Speaker 7 (01:07:55):
It's that it's coming out of nowhere and you're demanding
all of your friends to re arranged their lives to
show up for you without any prior communication.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
It's selfish, so selfish.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
We were getting nowhere, and I was tired of the insults,
so I bowed out. I hung up the FaceTime and
later sent a text where I made some general statements
about us not being that close and expecting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
A little from them.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I ended the friendship and blocked them all.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
I got my Hey, you go girl, you showed them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Yeah, your wedding's gonna be boring.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
I got my proposal and ring had the wedding and
tried to put them in the back of my mind.
I know I didn't handle the situation perfectly by any
means or in any way.

Speaker 7 (01:08:40):
Literally, yeah, at least you're aware of that, But even
that felt like sarcastic.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
After much ruminating, three years later, I won the battle
with my pride and reached out to Marie to reconcile.
She wanted to separate herself from the group and offered
an explanation. Then she proceeded to defend the group's stance
of me failing to realize that they were there to
support me and stand behind whatever I wanted. She was

(01:09:06):
just concerned that I didn't act excited in my announcement
text or have a ring In the FaceTime call. She
was worried I wasn't happy because I didn't get a proposal.
She mentioned that no one said is it do or die?

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
It was just rushed.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
She knows that there are steps to the process and
that was not the typical order of things.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
She learned.

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
She didn't have PTO and was stressed trying to figure
out how they were going to throw a bridal shower
because she wanted to celebrate me. Also, did I not
think it would hurt her if she missed her best
friend's wedding. She didn't come to me with any of
this because she didn't want to dampen my moment. She says,
I'm justified in my feelings of not wanting to explain myself,

(01:09:48):
but she's justified in hers because she was genuinely concerned.
She's aware that's not how it came across to me,
and she meant no malice.

Speaker 8 (01:09:56):
There's a bit more, But I feel like op is
so exhausting, so exhausting, And this especially is like, after
much deliberation in my head, I decided to reach out three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Years later, again just dragging up old stuff. Move on.

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
I thought you said, you know what happened to all
those thoughts and opinions you had about all these people?

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
Yeah, come on the way I see it. These concerns
or all things I told them either didn't matter to
me was going to happen I didn't want, or I
was okay with in our very first conversation about the wedding,
or frankly, they just had no say in whatsoever. And
I most definitely told them I was happy about my decision.

(01:10:38):
I don't believe their desire to understand everything was necessary
or respectful of my relationship and about people missing the day.
You can't you can't make it a big deal if
the bride doesn't, right, I thought that was just the
rule from my POV. Her actions were patronizing, disapproving, invalidating
towards my relationship, and entitled. You're into you are so entitled?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Like none of that made any sense.

Speaker 7 (01:11:05):
I just want you to know that, Ope, like your friends,
your friends were upset that they weren't going to be
able to be at your wedding, and that you were
demanding that they had PTO that they.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
Don't have, and then that when they actually didn't have PTO,
you didn't care that they weren't going.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
To be there.

Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
And then they're like, also like, I just didn't know
how to go about this because I didn't want to
like dampen your mood, because it's like, it should be
a fun thing that you're getting married now, and I
don't want to be like, hey, I can't come.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
That's gonna, you know, kill a mood. This is so weird.
You're weird, You're strange and mean.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Op.

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
It was also a red flag to me that she
defended and denied Tricia's hurtful words. Am I silly for
considering reconciliation while Marie is still friends with the rest?
How can concern about a marriage decision be positive? Why
were my words not assuring enough? Did I really them more?
Are they in denial that they didn't truly support my

(01:12:03):
relationship due to past issues? Or did they hate me
the whole time and couldn't stand to see me in
front and center?

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Of course, of course that thought is in your head,
that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
What am I missing? Am I just the a hole?

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
Yeah? All of this because I was pregnant and had
to wait for a doctor's appointment. I wanted to include
ultrasound pictures in the bridesmaid boxes and make sure my
baby was even living before telling them, and they got
hung up on the order of things.

Speaker 7 (01:12:34):
So again, this is op being like they didn't know
this thing I didn't tell them, And because they didn't
know that, I'm gonna use that as a reason why
I'm upset at them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
What did You're ridiculous?

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
This also now feels like you're throwing this in to
get sympathy points back.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Yeah, I don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
They found out about my kid through the grapevine, and
I hope they felt foolish. You should feel foolish. This
is weird, but they most likely just talked crap. And
if they use Reddit and find this post, then yes,
this effing play is about you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
How about this thing terrible here? You should be embarrassed.

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
How about maybe your friends were actually concerned about you
because you're with your high school sweetheart and the only
thing that got you guys to get married, it seems
is that you got pregnant, and they're asking where's the
ring because they're like, we want to make sure this
guy's going to actually treat you the way that you
would deserve to be treated, which if you're gonna get married,

(01:13:31):
I would say a ring is pretty high up on
the list of things you need before you get married.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Yeah, something, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
That's it. That's the end of it. There's not even comments.

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
We don't need any comments. We've made them all. We
know that the comments are going to rip into her. Yeah,
that was a crazy example of someone with no self awareness,
no

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