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15:33 r/AITAH - AITAH for cutting off my friends of 4 years after they missed my 18th birthday over a cat
33:13 r/AITAH - AITH For "leaving my friend (18F) out" because I (18M) have a girlfriend?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
My friend threw me out of my own.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Business about severance.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
This happened five years ago, and only in the past
few months have I finally gotten the missing puzzle piece
that made it all make sense. My beloved husband passed away,
leaving me with two teens in private school, a hefty mortgage,
and other bills I couldn't pay as a stay at
home parents. I got myself back to work my main
job as an educator, plus two side jobs, one being
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a weekend bartender at a golf club that my friend ran.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
All right, lots of lots of jobs, lots of tips
and uh a lot of old old tips. You gotta
shoe away.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Oh, the head bartender took a liking to me and
taught me how to run a successful bar. By the way,
this comes from Worried Divide twenty five eighty seven on
the r slash Charlotte Doe Bray YouTube subpred it and
if you want to submit your own stories, go to
the r slash Okay Storytime subreated it. I'm Sophia, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Riley, I'm Keon and Op.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Was working three jobs and it was tiring, but it
helped keep my mind occupied instead of constantly grieving, and
gave me peace of mind knowing my bills were paid
and my kids were fed. After about two years, I
began developing a friendship with Yan Jan. With Jan, a
woman who came to the golf club with her husband,
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we got close and spent pretty much all of our
spare time together. I trusted her mistake, and we talked
about everything. One of the things we discussed was opening
our own little bar and grill. I had lots of
ideas about what sort of set up food and atmosphere
would make a place successful.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Guys talk about any swinging, ooh off books.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Oh h wink wink. Then her husband bought an investment
property with a small building that would be perfect for
what we had in mind. He offered to lise it
to us if we wanted to make our dream a reality.
We immediately drew up a business plan, got a bank loan,
and got rolling we gutted the building and I designed
the interior bar layout. Built a huge deck out back
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with glass garage doors connecting inside and outside, with bars
on each side, a stage for live music and a
small kitchen for bar food. Sounds great, Oh my gosh,
sounds like you've got a great situation going. I we
shopped commercial supply stores for furnishings. I commissioned a custom barlight,
established accounts with suppliers, and started recruiting bartenders and waitresses.
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I already knew. I stress that I did these things
because it was all me. Jan refused to make any decisions,
constantly saying, here are the one with experience. I'll go
with what you think. In fairness, Jan did write most
of the business plan up since I was busy working
three jobs, raising teenagers and gathering supplierless and employee contacts.
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Oh but everything else me. I stayed on the contractor,
managed the budget, handled all the things requiring in person attendance.
I didn't think too much about it at the time
because I was excited. So we opened for about a month.
Both Jan and I were present and all was well.
Then Jan's husband Ed started hanging out there, and that's
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when trouble started.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Right row and then there was more pineapples showing around.
Started seeing a lot of people swinging. There a lot
of couples, Yeah, swing dances, and every.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Time they'd come it'd be a different match set.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, the couple wouldn't leave with each other, they'd always
live with another pair.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Everyone's ordering pina coladas.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
First. He wanted to drink for free, then treat all
his friends for free. When I pointed out this was
a acting profits, Jan suggested his bill would be deducted from
lease payments. Fair enough. Then I came in one morning
to find Jan Ed and Ed's friends Sam huddled over
a food order sheet. I was informed, not asked, that Sam,
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who was a chef and admittedly a good one, had
been hired and our little kitchen would be expanding from
bar food to expensive restaurant specials with Sam and Chart.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Oh dude, wait, if you do that, you know how
much licensing you need for that? It's a lot, yeah,
like compared to you connected that because.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You have to get food food handling licenses and that's
like a whole process.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, and plus it could work.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You should definitely, you know, be talking to Ope if
she's your business partner. I protested, because our kitchen was
very small and not equipped for this sort of food.
The cost would be considerably higher for food and Sam's salary,
and no one discussed this with me as an equal partner.
Jan begged me to give it a try, talking about
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all the reasons it would be great, and I agreed.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Mistake Yeah, because on top of getting you know, the
license for the food, you got to now pay another salary.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You have to revamp the kitchen, presumably if you don't
have the you know, stuff to cook all that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Food, hosts, waiters, waitresses. It's adding like another like twenty
to thirty K month. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Perhaps, but I got the definite feeling this was all
Ed and Jan's desperate need to please her overbearing, controlling husband.
I made it very clear within Ed's earshot that I
wouldn't tolerate any more big decisions being made without my input.
I wasn't nasty, but I was clear and firm. After that,
things changed. Ed was constantly around monitoring me in some
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weird way. Jan, on the other hand, became scarce. I
was juggling work at school because I didn't want to
quit my main job until I was sure the bar
would be successful, then straight to the bar until close.
It was rough. When I confronted Jan about her lack
of participation, she insisted I quit my teaching job so
I wouldn't be exhausted. She claimed she couldn't spend time
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at the bar due to issues at home. I didn't
have a husband ouch and my kids were practically grown,
so I should be more available.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Dan, oh, he never wanted this to get as big
as you're making it. It was supposed to be another
side business.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It was Jan, I don't know. If you're trying to
go from one thing to another, it has to be
expl It has to be more in the It has
to be more the amount than you working your teaching
job and the side gig. It should be, like, I
don't know, a little bit more than that.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Casey Roberts says, this is how small businesses fail. They
want to grow too fast without a solid plant.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I've seen it happen.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I wasn't happy, but couldn't let the place go without management,
so I ended up quitting my job to manage the bar.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
O ooh.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Fortunately it was doing okay, okay, cool. Things rolled on
for a while with me working my tail off, and
Jan showing up long enough to get wasted and go home.
We didn't talk much during that time, but I could
tell Jan and Ed we're having problems. They'd quietly argue
in the office. Then one would usually stomp off tried
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offering support, but Jan would say everything was fine.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
En, Oh sorry sorry. So like the thing with like
working with family and friends. You know, Jan's not a
friend to Op, but like whenever you work with a couple.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Aspect, I'm kind of a friend.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, they did, but over a business thing, over a
business venture.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
They were friends before the business venture, and that's and
then they did it. Yeah, so they were friends, you're right.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I just think sometimes couples want to do everything together
and then it's like, oh, we're having problems, we'll start
a business that'll fix it. Yeah, oh, we have money
and resources. 's throw it at this, throw it at that.
Rather than have a pet or have a kid, try and.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Create something that'll tie you together. It's the kid you're
being pulled apart, exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
The biggest one is the kid one, and that's the
worst one in my kid fix so we'll save our relationship, right, Oh,
that's what.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
The Lobster's All about It's actually a really good film.
Oh you should watch it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I've never heard of this.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You would love it.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Okay. Then my mother broke her hip. I had to
take off about three weeks to take care of her.
There was no one else. I told Jan, and she
stepped up, Thank goodness, or so I thought at the time.
Oh no. When I came back, it was a different place.
Over half the people I'd carefully selected were gone, replaced
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with people I recognized as former customers. Basically barflies. If
you own or work at a place that serves booze,
you know not to drink while working. It causes mistakes
and it isn't a good look. That happened within three
weeks the place was a mess, and I found that
these employees were having after our parties, mostly on our dime,
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with Ed and Jan usually in the middle. The whole
atmosphere had changed. I'd work hard to make it a
respectable place for decent people. Now I was seeing pesterment
of waitresses, substance deals in the bathrooms, and fights in
the parking lot. We'd turned into a dive bar in
three weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
If you have any more, say like, if you have
any kind of weight that you can throw around, you
need to. What's more, Ed had the audacity to try
and order me around. I absolutely let him know I
was not his wife nor some weak woman in need
of guidance, and walked away. The next day, Jan showed
up before opening with Ed. The long and short of
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it was, they accused me of stealing money and being
rude to customers, asking me to give up my share
of the part.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, how am I stolen money when I'm taking care
of my mom?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, I wasn't even here.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What did you see me?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I asked them to show proof I stole from myself
of all things, which they couldn't because I didn't. I
suggested they'd take a closer look at their bartenders and
server is hired in my absence if money was really missing,
since I'd been telling them booze and food items certainly
were for a while. I told them, yes, I had
been rude to a couple of customers. One was a
man I saw with his hand on a seventeen year
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old waitresses but and another man who happened to be
the mayor's son conducting a substance deal on the deck
what I was protecting our employees and businesses. Yeah, you
need to like get these people out, dude, literally like
get them all out. Start over.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Can you call Gordon Ramsey? Yeah, makeover. Wait, there's another
guy that rescue at bar.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Rescue I knew exactly. I was like, yeah, this is
giving me that right now.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I thought about what life would be like constantly fighting
against this, and decided my piece was worth more than
a place i'd have to constantly fight to keep as
it should be. I agreed to let them buy my
share out for less than I should have gotten. That
was what was right for me. So I quit my job,
gave up the house i'd work so hard to keep
for a cheaper rental, and put all my ideas and
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effort into a place they pushed me out of. As
soon as I got it on its feet, I was
pretty bitter. I got more bitter when the man i'd
been dating suddenly decided to date Jan's new friend, who
is now working at the bar. It wasn't super serious,
but he was the first man I'd had interest in
since my husband's passing, so it's stung. Oh I'm pretty
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sure that was on purpose, too, But I thought it
was a bullet dodged.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
For months, I struggled, but found a new teaching job
that turned out to be the best I've ever had,
and was able to buy a new house that's affordable
with one job. I've also met a nice man who's
much more responsible and kind than the one who followed
the crowd. Side note, he came back later expressing regret
at following along with what was pushed at him rather
than sticking with me too late. There is a little
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bit left. But what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, when it comes to the bar, I wish that
you had a little bit more or with steady in
like steady flow with the with the bar and everything
like that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You can't leave it like it sucks. But you really
can't leave a business like that, especially new business, for
kind of any time.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, because my thought is if it was there for
six months, you could be like, hey, I created this,
I helped develop all these things. I don't have the
resources to you know, do x y Z, but I
can help interior design your own bar and do X
y z and like talk to other people and be like, hey,
we grew and got like you know, half a million
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dollars or some or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And also, just don't you know start businesses with people
you don't really know? You know, did you know ed?
Did you know her relationship with her partner?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah, you gotta be so so careful about who you
start a business with or move in with, or move
in with or marry any any sort of long term commitment.
Be careful because you can get stuck with people that suck.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That's true. I knew the boys like for about two wait,
a year and a half, four moved here. I agree, sofio,
let's start a business and seller socks.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Our socks, use socks.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Sure they could be used or not? Brother, Okay, I
mean so, I just have a lot of socks and
I want to get rid of them. And would you
guys buy our socks?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Would you buy us?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You just don't okay, okay, would you buy our socks?
Would you buy our overshirts? Same? They're both clothes and
one's been worn. But why do people want overshirts rather
than like socks.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Because usually when you're getting rid of socks, they have
like holes in them. Yeah they're there, but uh, there
is a little bit left to this story. So we're
gonna read why are.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You getting rid of socks when you already have holes
in your your other socks?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I just need new socks, guys.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You need to learn how to like darn your socks.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Darn it.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, but I never really understood why Jan turned on
me until recently. Oh wait, there was a secret. Oh wow,
a friend who stuck with me after all that happened.
I lost a lot of them because Ed and Jan
talked rap about me, and I took the stance that
people who really knew me would know it wasn't true
and refused to engage or defend myself, which we did
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out the bad ones called and told me that Ed
and Jan were divorcing. Why because the woman that Jan
introduced to my ex was involved with Ed and Jan.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I knew there were swinging. I felt it in my toest.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Jebbie felt it, and it was messy. Evidently, as I
always suspected, Ed was a controlling a hole, I guess
she finally got the guts to stand up to him
and to force him. Karma is queen, y'all, and she'll
get you eventually gigs and votes. That's the end of
that story. But yeah, again, be careful.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Who you start a business with, because I doubt that
she even worked at a golf bar. I think she
just put in golf to you could hint at the
foreshadowing of the story.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, it was just all part of the literary devices
in the story.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, we're like, she worked at a pincolado bar. That
would have been funny. Dude, that's so crazy. Oh, I'm
glad hopefully jan gets out of it and can make
her and they can run back round two without the
abuse of a hulks. I think they made a good
team together.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Did they.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
It feels like copeded everything and she did the business plan,
and the business plan was terrible. But folks, that's the
end of that story, and we're going to get into
the next one. But I need to use the restroom.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yay, my friends ditched my party over a cat?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Was it a cool cat?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
For contexts, I'm very close friends with these people since
freshman year of high school. We met in culinary class
and bonded immediately. Over the years, we gained and lost friends,
but the four of us remained tight. I called them
Bert nineteen Mail, Martha eighteen female, and Brianna eighteen female.
By the way, this comes from Apprehensive Bad six sixty
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six two and if you want to see your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime subredit I'm Riley.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I'm Sophia, and I'm Keon and Op says.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Bert was my closest friend. We played video games together
every afternoon for years. Sure we had our little spats,
but nothing beyond the normal friction you get when spending
tons of time with someone. I know how that's like, Hey,
Martha and I had traveled to another state for a
concert that was an absolute blast. I even house sat
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for her family for three weeks one summer. Brana wasn't
as close to me since she's Bert's sister, but I
never had problems with her until recently.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Uh oh, Bert.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You're in a love triangle. Ope. Oh, Honestly, if I
hadn't invited her, things probably would have gone differently. Now
for what happened. I planned a birthday camping trip from
my eighteenth in May, involving my boyfriend Carl seventeen Mail,
and my three friends. I made these plans early in March.
Everyone got off work. We talked about how excited we were.
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I even made a playlist for the drive because I
was so pumped. You know how much dedication you need
from that.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, I've never done that. I have a lot of
friends who make playlists. I just have one big old playlist.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh no, no, no, no, that's met.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You can skip through it.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It's literally my likes and like, all right, well just
cueue it up.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh no, I have a specific like, it's a playlist
that I've created over the years.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Alist what about okay, okay playlists or sort of a
journaling of what you were going through in a time.
So you put a playlist together for that time and
then you're like, okay, this is how I was feeling
during that.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Guy, but it's from freshman year of high school to now,
and if you go through it in order, you see
how my music tastes.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, that's just my likes. Literally my likes is just like,
all right, what was I feeling during this time?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And you're like cool, anyways, give me out of this room.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
How many playlists do you got?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You want to know?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I do want to know.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I literally within the last yearly ten, I'm Batman Happier
Active Xploration twenty five, Date Night, Spring of twenty five, Undertones,
Party Time, Homesick Nineties, jam Angie Girl, Rex, Unmatched, Science
Isn't Real, The Homesick You Summer twenty four, Life Moves
pretty Fast, Workout, Late Night Jim twenty three Summer.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, that's too many playlists.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's all that these are happening over years. Look, look
these are all over.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
These are late. There should be a specific number of.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I have one called I'm Batman. Whatever I'm feeling like,
I'm Batman. I won't called hyperactive whatever. I want to
freaking get out after it. Exploration twenty five is what
I'm listening to now.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I've got in Progress. I've got sound Drastic, which is
just a bunch of soundtracks because I don't put soundtracks
onto my main that would be crazy. Okay, I don't
put soundtracks onto my main playlist. Some old music that
makes me sound cool, but I don't really put stuff
on that one because I use you're so lame, relaxing,
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possibly French, You're so lame classical music, and that's it.
I also have in progress Jazz version Dude.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I have one called We're Done Read the story right
is always the best part when you get the talk
and scream music together. The day before the trip, Martha
started pressuring me till her drives separately, with Burt and
Brianna claiming they needed more room. This made no sense.
I'd be driving my mom's newer sedan with six seats
and plenty of space for a weekend trip. Anything that
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wouldn't fit would go into my dad's truck bed. I
explained multiple times that I wanted to drive so we
could all be together, listen to my playlist, and nobody
would feel left out. There was another reason I didn't
want Martha driving. She's honestly a terrifying driver. Every time
she drove around me, I have anxiety attacks from her
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reckless driving. We all know who that is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I have one of those friends. It's Sam.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well, he doesn't have the driver, that's true.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, so actually it's not Sam anymore.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Once she nearly got his tea boone at an intersection
because she decided to turn on red when the left
turn lane had a green light. If I hadn't a
scream stopped, we would have crashed.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That was the last time I let her drive me
though I never told her why to spare her feelings.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
If you guys were real friends, you would have just
told her if she sucks at driving, wellus.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It was my birthday and I'm the most experienced driver.
It just made more sense for me to drive right.
The day of the trip arrives, Martha was supposed to
pick up Burt and Brianna, then come to my house
so we could all leave together. About ten minutes before
departure time, Martha texted me she was on her way.
Paul and I have loaded my mom's car, leaving room
for the three others. Half hour passes no Martha. I
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texted her and Burt, asking what's going on. Martha said
Brianna's cat gotten outside and they were trying to get
him back in before leaving. I figured this would take
maybe ten minutes max. Their cat is overweight, knows where
home is, and is very Fifteen minutes later, Bert calls
me out of breath, talking about chasing this cat around
the yard treats being unsuccessful. This struck me as super weird.
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Anyone with the cat knows that if you run after them,
they'll run away faster. They don't come to you if
you chase them at full speed, it scares them. Most
cats prefer coming to you on their own terms and
will return to where they know there's food. I didn't
want to cause issues, so I just wish them luck
and figured i'd wait out a bit longer. An hour passes,
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no updates. Carl and I didn't know what to do.
My mom speculated that either Martha or Brienna let the
cat out on purpose because Martha wanted to drive herself.
I didn't believe in this theory initially, but everything that
happened afterward makes me wonder. Two hours after our plan
departure time, Carl and I decided we had to go.
Martha texted saying they'd leave as soon as the cat
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came back inside. I would keep searching, even if they
had to stay up super late. We drove to the campsite,
set up the huge timp my parents bought for everyone
to share, and hung out with my family. Still no
updates from the trio. Then it got dark. We realized
they weren't coming that night, but they promised they'd be
there eventually whenever they got the cat inside. Because that
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cat meant everything to Rihanna, Paul and I were understanding
about this, as much as it made me sad we
didn't get to drive up together.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Where is this cat?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I look forward for them on Saturday? Yeah, dude, my
cat peeps. What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I'm confused? Did they like, do they know where the
cat is? Did they lose the cat?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
They just ran outside and they're trying to chase after it.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But I'm like, if you know where the cat is,
how is it this hard?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Also, it's like an overweight cat too.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
How are you this bad at catching a cat? Like
if the cat got out and ran away and you
guys were like, I don't know where the cat is,
but if you know, like you can see the cat.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I agree as someone I don't catch cats. What
I can catch mice. I've caught multiple. The one that
took me the longest was twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Anyways, Saturday morning, no overnight updates. I texted and bothered
them until I finally got a response saying they hadn't
gotten the cat inside, but knew he was in the
neighbor's yard. They tried coaxing him with treats, but he
wouldn't come over. I suggested letting their mom help since
she'd offer, but Brianna refused to leave her cat. Bert
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Martha also refused to leave Brianna alone because the cat
meant so much to her.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
What is this that makes it? Are you giving her
emotional support while she tries and catches her cat? She's
not lost, the cat's just outside. Get the cat? You don't.
You don't need three people to try and get this cat.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And there's so many more effective means.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
To this, so many more like what this is so stupid? Yeah,
Casey Roberts says, this is the worst live ever heard.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Agreed. I was about to say. We got through the
entire day with barely any updates, and another day passed
without them showing up. My family and Carl were pissed,
but I tried seeing the best of my friends. They
had been my friends for so long, and I felt hurt.
They all ditched me over a cat whose whereabouts they
knew he just wasn't inside. Didn't want to believe they
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had malicious intent. That's what my entire family thought, though.
Sunday arrives the last day of my birthday trip with
little to no updates and growing anger over how crappy
the situation was. Carl decided to be the bad guy
and called him out. He sent a long paragraph to
our group chat about what they did was extremely crappy
and hurtful that all three chose a cat over my
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eighteenth birthday brand It took great offense and started calling
Carl mean names and said he had no empathy because
this cat saved her life. They argued back and forth,
with Martha occasionally jumping in to back up Rihanna burn
I mostly stayed on the sidelines reading the messages. Eventually,
things got absolutely nasty. Brandon and Martha ganged up on
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Carl with deep personal attacks. After he tried sticking up
for me, he returned the energy full forced and it
spiraled quickly.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Ay yay, yay.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So what I've learned, and I've said this last week,
but what I've learned with horror movies is usually if
you pick out the monster or like, you know, whatever
the bad thing is in the movie, and whatever's left
is actually what the movie's about. Yeah, I feel like
if you take this cat out of the situation, yeah
that's what the whole thing's about.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, you guys have bad friends and it's.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Tough, Like I have a friend that's struggling to connect
with the people he grew up with in high school.
I'm like, dude, over Tom, you just don't mesh together apart.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, you guys are at like you're all eighteen, So
you're at this kind of big crossroads in life where
you're gonna be all doing different things and sometimes, you know,
the friends that you had in high school aren't the
friends that you're to stay with, And that's okay. You'll
find you'll find new people who don't spend like a
day trying to get this cat inside. Yeah, dude, some
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better cat owners than this person for real.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Bert swooped into defend his sister because he didn't like
that Carl wasn't going to take it easy on her
after the crap she said. The fight went on forever,
and by the end of it, I was sobbing. Nothing
I tried helped. Neither side would stop saying nasty, degrading crap.
I left the group chat out of anger and frustration
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and talked to my mom. H ed up texting Bert,
but that didn't help much. Carl and I tried and
joined the rest of the day, but it was hard
when I kept thinking all about the crazy crap. Martha
and Brienna were saying, felt so hurt, like I didn't
mean anything to him, like for those four years never mattered.
It was devastating and definitely my worst birthday.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I forgot it was your birthday.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah, this entire trip was for the birthday.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It was the birthday trip. Ah. Rough, that's rough, that's real,
real tough, o PM.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Sorry, the three of them have slowly started cutting me off.
It's by offering to do something else for my birthday,
which they never actually planned. They just set it to
look better during their argument. These aren't your friends anymore,
No a friend. The cat probably never got out, And then.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
They don't have a cat, a cat at all.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They call and they're like, the cat's out.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I didn't know you guys had a cat. It's new.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Talk's a little different. Yeah, I genuinely don't believe they
needed all three of them to get one cat who
was just chilling outside in view. Also, are they physically
slow to get this cat because it was overweight and
they could see it?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, that's what I'm like, How is it this hard
for you to get a cat inside? Yeah, it just
can't be.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
He wasn't inside so they completely ditched me. My mom
was also pissed because she'd spent a lot of money
on groceries, a tent, and running the campsite space. She
thanks Martha did this on purpose because she didn't want
me driving, and then it spiraled from there. Honestly, don't
know what to believe anymore. I just know how her
I feel, and that I've completely cut all three of
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them out of my life. I want some other opinions.
Am I the a hole because I wasn't empathetic enough
about her cat being outside? No, we have an update.
We have an update every cat.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I'm sorry if I if my dog got out and
was outside, I mean, it wouldn't be have a problem
because my dog knows how to be recalled, but like,
uh are recalled like a car? Yeah? But what Okay,
But if my dog is outside and I can see
the dog, it's gonna take me, like, I don't know,
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five ten minutes to get that. I guess the cat
is different.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I could get your dog into the house and less intensive.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Absolutely absolutely, I'm just saying if it was a dog
that didn't recalled, But like so say, this is a
cat a bit harder. We put a can of tuna.
I don't know. It's not like if you can see
the cat, it cannot be that hard. It cannot take
hours to get this cat inside.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, aren't cats like little versions of lions?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah? Any kind of they're both lines. Good job, Riley update.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Thanks for all your comments. They brought to my attention
that I wasn't clear enough. Cat is an outside cat?
What it wants to be?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
What when it wants to be Sophia when it feels
like going on?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Want?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, it didn't want to be outside. It wanted to
be inside side, don't catch me, and.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So that's insane. Your cat is an outdoor indoor cat.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It goes in and out often, as do other cats.
They live on plenty of property where it's not a
risk of being overrun. What they knew where the cat
would be, but decided none of them could come. I
didn't come help because there were already four or more
people there. I also realized there's more I didn't include
about why I'm cutting them off. It's not just because
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this isolated incident.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Even if it was, they're gone. I'm sorry they couldn't
come to your birthday weekend because three of them had
to help get an indoor cat or sorr an outdoor
cat indoors?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Can I can I say one of your friend's names?
Or what if Isabelle died this to you?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
But never? She has cats? Actually she has two cats.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
What if she what if you Okay, there's something special
coming up soon? What if she can't make it because
one of her cats are outside? Would you understand?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'd be like, girl, how long is it going to
take you to get this cat? Okay, I'm going to
cut her off, But I'd be like why why boom?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
But also, here's hippercrit.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I'm saying in this scenario.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, this scenario is stupid.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
There's also them just not even communicating with op. It
was like, okay, we have a plan, we have this,
We're gonna try and make it there.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
We'll try and leave in an hour. Nothing. It was
just we can't cut at all. Wrestling the cat's.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Outside, wrestling mama a fat cat? Would it come for treats?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
None of this makes sense.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The catgate, oh Man Bert, especially who's my best friend
for four years, came very rude and back handed towards
me after the incident. He called me stupid and say
I was just joking constantly. Martha just distanced herself from me,
and Brianna and I were never that close anyways. Eventually,
after a big fight with Bert, I decided to unfollow
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them on everything and cut them off. Had no need
for this negativity in my life anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, no, your friends are not your friends, and if
they're being nasty to you, what should have happened? So
what's her face? Who has the cat? Brianna?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Sure, Brianna's like, hey, my cat got out. I know
she's an outdoor cat, but we're leaving. We need to
get her in. Can't be outside all weekend and blah
blah blah. So my mom and I are just going
to try and get the cat. We might be running
over a little late. I'm going to drive up on
my own. I'll meet you guys.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Up there, yep.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And then your other two friends drive up and you
all go up together and everyone's good. And then Brianna
drives up later.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That's it, that's total, that's it. She gets her cat in.
I don't know ten minutes later.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, agreed of freaking greed. Sounds like the cat got
out of the bag, though, But Soon after, Martha sent
me a photo on Snapchat of all three of them together,
all flipping me off.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
What so immature? I know you're eighteen years old, but
I never did this at eighteen, so you're bad.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
They unfriended me and unfollowed me on everything imaginable, even
on my self care non sponsored app. That was the
ultimate reason I decided to cut them off completely, not
just one thing. I have cats on my own, so
I understand how important they are. I also have two
cats that are constantly outside, and I never ditch a
friend from plans. We had months forced my cat inside.
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That's in that story. Guys, is this Katka or are
the friend?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Cat's not real?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Cat's fake fake cat.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Fake news, fake cat.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But that's the end of that story, and we're gonna
jump into the next one.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Hey it's Sam. We're gonna get back to the stories.
But here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
My best friends keep ignoring my girlfriend. What'd you say
we're doing one more time?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Did he actually get you with that? Yeah? That's wild.
Oh that's funny. Oh we got that, we got we
got her.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Writing the title makes me feel super childish, but I
swear it's deeper than what it seems. Some backstory. I
eighteen male, have had a group of friends since I
was six years old, consisting of three girls and me.
I know this might sound unusual, but it's worked for me.
Boys and girls can be friends, and it's weird to
assume they can't. I would know most of my friends,
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well not most. I would say it's happen. You can't
be friends with girls as a guy would never allow it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Hit in't do it.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
There's Allison, probably my realist friend because she's most similar
to me and has been in all my friend groups
since we were six. Then Dina, who's in our circle
but I'm less close to since she went to a
different sixth form. Lastly, there's Olivia, eighteen female, who had
a different circle during secondary school, but we've gotten closer
again in sixth form.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
What is sixth form?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
It's British.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, ah, it's Ritish ace British.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
By the way, this comes from Global Ad ninety eight
thirty five, And if you want to sumit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. So
I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm keon, and op says, I
know my now girlfriend Sam because she knew Dina. Sam
and I have been friends since starting sixth form and
dating since May twenty twenty four. It's going amazingly well.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Oh right, is Opie amel or female checking?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I need male?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Eighteen mail eighteen mail?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Okay, I've never this close to someone before. We're communicative,
open and comfortable. Similar in some ways but not too similar,
with shared interests and willingness to learn about each other's hobbies.
She's a lovely person with a beautiful soul. I feel
silly saying this so young, since anything can happen, but
I'm very secure in our relationship. Sam and I were
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part of a friendship circle consisting of me, her Alison, Olivia,
and three other people. Our friendship group is predominantly queer.
I'm by my girlfriend is queer, and most of our
friends are LGBT and probably neurodiversent. We're all very nerdy
and love D and D, which is how we made
friends initially, except for Olivia, who isn't LGBT and doesn't
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share our interests. Get her out of there?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Why is she in the group?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Why is she there?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I also have the group, but she has zero interest
with everybody else.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
There's nothing here.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Maybe I feel like people stay together in school and
then like once they get out of school, it's like, oh,
I still have to be friends with them, but you're
just on different lanes.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being different as long as
you're respectful. But she doesn't feel like we have common
ground because she doesn't like D and D. Even so,
she and I still have similar interests in things to
talk about. We tried getting her involved with D and D,
but she refused. Everything was fine for over a year
until December twenty twenty four, Oh, when I had been
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dating Sam for almost seven months. Olivia had no qualms
about our relationship until that point.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Uh oh, and now she wants your D and D.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Oh. She was actually the first person I told about
my crush on Sam and was very supportive since we
often gossip about relationship stuff. My girlfriend had mental health struggles,
heightened anxiety, suspected autism, and depression. December was extremely stressful
for her with design projects due, and she's a self
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proclaimed perfectionist. One day everything became overwhelming and she'd been
crying quite a bit. Our friends and I were supportive
and helped her calm down from a panic attack. At
day's end, she was still upset and wanted comfort, but
we had to wait for the bus with Olivia. My
girlfriend couldn't help being upset, and obviously I wasn't going
to ignore that, so I focused on her. Olivia went
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unusually quiet, uncharacteristics, and she normally jumps at the chance
to help crying people. She went on her phone, played
games and ignored my crying girlfriend. I assumed she was
giving us space as a couple, though it made me
angry that she wasn't showing sympathy.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Maybe she shows sympathy to you, and when it comes
to other people less, so your girlfriend doesn't know how
to handle it because she has complex emotions about your
girlfriend Sam.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I think that could be true. I occasionally tried talking
to Olivia, but she'd pretend nothing was making Sam upset.
When we got off the bus, Olivia and I had
to walk two minutes to wear our paths diverse. She
stormed ahead without speaking, classic cold shoulder behavior from her
when she's mad. I tried figuring out what was wrong,
but didn't text since it seemed too minor. She continued
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ignoring us. The next day, I worried it would be
awkward in our shared history class, but as soon as
I was away from Sam, she acted normally with me. Great,
she's done being mad at me for some reason. But
she kept giving my girlfriend the cold shoulder. Every time
Sam texted to apologize, Olivia would respond nice apology or thanks,
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but continue the charad.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Dude, Olivia, you gotta play a little smarter at this game. Yeah, Olivia,
if you're trying to jump Opie's bones.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
This isn't work. This is not how you do it.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Gotta be a little bit more charismatic.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Ah Man, come on, figure it out. She'd ignore both
of us together but be nice to me alone. I
wonder why, Oh, he just doesn't see it yet.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
He's an eighteen year old guy. She doesn't see it, Dude.
I didn't know girl like me until she put her
head on my shoulder. I didn't know Angie liked me
until she held my hand on the first date, and
I was like, wait, I think she's intimating a date.
I don't usually initiate touch until the third Wow. I know.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Damn kept trying to be nice but got nothing. Alison,
our mutual friend, asked her about it during a text conversation,
but Olivia just stopped responding completely. On the last day
before Christmas break, my girlfriend was having a bad day,
still stressed from projects and this cold shoulder situation, and
Olivia was giving her immature cold looks. A mutual acquaintance
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straight up asked her what was going on. I should
have done this. I hate confrontation and am very avoidant,
but I should have stepped up. Her answers still confuses
me because it's, unfortunately all I have to go on.
She's too emotional, she cries too much. Another thing she
cried because of p and I are friends. Mmmmm, she's
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trying to incite discord into the friendship.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That's ridiculous and downright delusional.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Opie. Do you ever have a relationship of troubles go
to anybody but Olivia? Yeah, so I know, the second
you're having issues with Sam, you're gonna go She's gonna
You're gonna go talk to Olivia and she's gonna be like,
she's manipulating you.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Don't you see you can ever go to Olivia about this?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Oh no, sir, She's You're her puppet. You gotta get
out of that.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
And come to me. This confused me so much. Why
would you admit this? She's not an idiot. She should
know this is a childish reason for ignoring someone because
it's not Oh pee, we can all see it. Sam
and I racked our brains because we suspected it might
be about me not being as close to Olivia since
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dating Sam, but just Sam being too emotional, horrible and
very out of character. Oh pee, wake up, aliceon Sam
and I wondered if something was happening in Olivia's personal life,
but we decided it would be weird to ask how
is no one and your friend group realizing what is
very obvious to all of us here.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Also, if your friends someone you can ask, hey, what
how's everything doing. I was talking to a team member
today and they, you know, we got to talk about
her personal life and you know, heart's in the chat
for her hopefully she's doing okay. But you know, she
opened up and was like this, what's going on? I'm like,
that's what you do? Is like, you know, as live.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Do you think that people in the friend group support this?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Support what?
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Like, what what's going on?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
They're like, oh, like they want Olivia yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Know because they can't be that ob I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Like they're they're eighteen, but like I don't think I
was that oblivious at eighteen.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
They can't be that oblivia.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
I mean, not my own about my personal relate like
any like when someone's footing with me I but like
with other people, like a spot it. Maybe that's OK.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's just hard to imagine that's happening to you because
you don't really perceive yourself being in that yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Element, I mean I get it, like for I don't know,
when we get at your stud no, no thanks, yeah,
oh no. When I was in high school, but guys
are like that girl is hitting on you, and I'm like, yeah,
I would never she's not.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I didn't realize until like senior year of college that
people were hitting on me.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
And even then I'm like, is Charlie flirting with me?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Because for guys, and this sounds so bad, but girls
being nice to you, they assume that they're flirting with you.
So it's either if they're nice to you, you think
that they're flirting, or you don't think they're flirting whatsoever.
And you later down the road you realize.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yeah, it's that video of like, is she really into me?
I don't just being she's being nice. I think she
she told me she likes me, but she's just being nice.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
With guys, they tell you they like you like Oh no, no,
that's all most girls.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Well I tell Angie I like her a lot.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Well don't she anyway? Christmas break would hopefully settle things
down right eight. During the break, she had me, Alison,
and Dina over for a movie night. At the end,
she began yelling at me for not having proper manners
all because I was comfortable enough to not say please
for a drink. Alison said it was harsh, and suddenly
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Olivia turned on her. Are you gonna tell me to
go on a live myself? Okay?
Speaker 4 (43:21):
What?
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
These days they say the darnedest things.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
We're gonna tell me that. After eleven years of knowing Alison,
she would never actually tell someone that, especially not Olivia.
This made me worried something was genuinely wrong with Olivia mentally.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Alison reached out to apologize, but nothing was resolved. Olivia
didn't apologize or admit anything was wrong.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Olivia, how's her home life?
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Going Lydia Olivia Olivia. Our hangouts never end like that.
Another odd thing. During break, Olivia's mother asked my mother,
in a skeptical, hush tone, that what do you think
of Sam? Obviously Olivia had fed her mum lies or
exaggerations about Sam. My mum was confused because she couldn't
understand how anyone wouldn't like Sam, who's the most kind, thoughtful,
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sweet person. After Christmas break, nothing returned to normal. Olivia
ignored my girlfriend for a total of six months. We
found new ways of working around it. If the status
quo suddenly changed and Olivia liked Sam again, that would
be weird because of how used to it we got.
It was sad because Sam and I ended up eating
in the library away from our friend group since Sam
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worried Olivia would snap at her, which became a new thing.
Olivia would snap at her for little things, sometimes mock her,
and avoid her presence constantly. This was despite Sam trying
to say he lo include her and wave in the hall.
Super awkward, but luckily our friend group was just as
confused as we were. I still don't get it.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
How okay?
Speaker 3 (45:03):
How do you not get it?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
The reason you don't get it, Opie, because you're avoiding it.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, you don't want to get.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
It exactly deep down, you know what's happening, but you
want to avoid that reality in whole. Thus you're just
commenting on everything she's doing rather than actually doing something
about it.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
You got to address it. We got to address.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
It, dude. If Sophia was acting me like, this'll be
what's up?
Speaker 3 (45:30):
What is up?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Why doing this? Yeah, and then she'll tell me like
we'll get frustrated each other, and then like we'll talk
later and then and then it's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
That's what you need to do. With Olivia. We always
tried including her in every interaction, but she'd ignore us.
Then she turned around and complained to Alison that she
didn't feel welcome in the group anymore. Wonder why, Olivia,
Though it's six months of this cold shoulders snapping at
Sam for the littlest things, like she was finding any excuse.
Then suddenly, on last day before summer, she bounded up
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to my girlfriend and greeted her with a polite smile,
talking normally. This made me think I could finally talk
about Sam in front of Olivia without her getting weird. Again. Nope.
To this day, she still goes quiet and doesn't respond.
When I mentioned Sam just a week ago, her mom
asked mine about my girlfriend in the same manner as before.
I guess I just feel crazy. Writing this down should
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make it obvious what I should have done. Asked her
what the heck she was doing. Katie Paladin says they're
also Nerdi Vergent, remembers Sophia. That's true.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
I thought everyone but Olivia was everyone but Olivia is
so like, sure, that might be contributing to it, but
like also, their moms don't realize what's going on, just
like no one in this situation realizes what's going on,
And I'm like, I.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Kind of one person must have.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I kind of don't know what's anymore.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
John here, og host, We're gonna get back to these stories,
but a quick free minute break from ass from our sponsors.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
But she created this environment where I couldn't confront her
properly without feeling like I was overacting, creating conflict, and
confronting her felt pointless after six months. Why did she
ignore her for seven months total? Was it really because
my girlfriend was too emotional? Do you have any final thoughts.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yes, they're all eighteen and teenagers. Yeah, and some of
them are girls that are teenagers and some of them
are guys that are teenagers. They're all young, and they're
all they're all of the Alpha generation. Right, there's alpha.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
No, I think they're the beta. Are they the beta
with the alpha?
Speaker 5 (47:30):
No?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
No, no, Alpha, They're alpha.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
They're alpha.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
They're all alpha.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
They might still be gen Z. Actually, I don't know
what the cutoff is.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Anyways, they're too close to being alpha, so none of
those kids make any sense.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
WHOA you think they're alphas.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Jin alpha or whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, have that conversation with Olivia or a cutter off.
I don't know. You gotta pick.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
One cut her off. Since you're non avoidant, then that
seems like the easiest, easiest way to get it done.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
You can't do this middle ground where you're all trying
to be friends with her and she's actively ignoring your
girlfriend for seven months. That's a bad move. That was
the worst move you could take. But there's a little
bit left before you go. I'll read it and say
she was jealous of my girlfriend previously. She and I
have a sibling like relationship.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
Dude, the cod always change, it can change.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
She's proclaimed she thinks of me like a brother and
that it would be gross for people to assume we're together.
The lady doth protests too much.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
Yeah, no, it's like you're like my brother. But like
you're into it, I'm into it.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
She had a boyfriend during this period who she's still with. Girl,
Come on, you're overthinking it.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Yeah, but guess what, that's all they do. Teenagers only overthink.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
It's true. I just don't understand why she had to
do this. This is very extreme for her. I've started
thinking about whether I'm making excuses for myself and whether
I should have asked what was going on, probably maybe
included her even more somehow, So, am I an a
hole for not reaching out after her signals and asking
if something was happening in her personal life? Am I
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an a hole for possibly prioritizing my girlfriend? And that
is the end of that story. You're not the ale
for prioritizing your girlfriend, but you should have brought this
up way earlier. Yeah, don't don't continue to put it
off just because you're like, well it's been so long, Like,
stop procrastinating it, Go talk.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Yeah, The longer you wait, the more awkward. It's already awkward,
and already awkward.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Though, this is challenging me as a six seven no no, no,
no oh. This is challenging me as someone that avoids
things to back ahead on. Yeah with raging fists.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
You got this, but uh, that's the end of that
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My friend threw me out of my own.
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Business about severance.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
This happened five years ago, and only in the past
few months have I finally gotten the missing puzzle piece
that made it all make sense. My beloved husband passed away,
leaving me with two teens in private school, a hefty mortgage,
and other bills I couldn't pay as a stay at
home parents. I got myself back to work my main
job as an educator, plus two side jobs, one being
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a weekend bartender at a golf club that my friend ran.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
All right, lots of lots of jobs, lots of tips
and uh a lot of old old tips. You gotta
shoe away.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Oh, the head bartender took a liking to me and
taught me how to run a successful bar. By the way,
this comes from Worried Divide twenty five eighty seven on
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
Riley, I'm Keon and Op.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Was working three jobs and it was tiring, but it
helped keep my mind occupied instead of constantly grieving, and
gave me peace of mind knowing my bills were paid
and my kids were fed. After about two years, I
began developing a friendship with Yan Jan. With Jan, a
woman who came to the golf club with her husband,
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we got close and spent pretty much all of our
spare time together. I trusted her mistake, and we talked
about everything. One of the things we discussed was opening
our own little bar and grill. I had lots of
ideas about what sort of set up food and atmosphere
would make a place successful.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Guys talk about any swinging, ooh off books.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Oh h wink wink. Then her husband bought an investment
property with a small building that would be perfect for
what we had in mind. He offered to lise it
to us if we wanted to make our dream a reality.
We immediately drew up a business plan, got a bank loan,
and got rolling we gutted the building and I designed
the interior bar layout. Built a huge deck out back
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with glass garage doors connecting inside and outside, with bars
on each side, a stage for live music and a
small kitchen for bar food. Sounds great, Oh my gosh,
sounds like you've got a great situation going. I we
shopped commercial supply stores for furnishings. I commissioned a custom barlight,
established accounts with suppliers, and started recruiting bartenders and waitresses.
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I already knew. I stress that I did these things
because it was all me. Jan refused to make any decisions,
constantly saying, here are the one with experience. I'll go
with what you think. In fairness, Jan did write most
of the business plan up since I was busy working
three jobs, raising teenagers and gathering supplierless and employee contacts.
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Oh but everything else me. I stayed on the contractor,
managed the budget, handled all the things requiring in person attendance.
I didn't think too much about it at the time
because I was excited. So we opened for about a month.
Both Jan and I were present and all was well.
Then Jan's husband Ed started hanging out there, and that's
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when trouble started.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Right row and then there was more pineapples showing around.
Started seeing a lot of people swinging. There a lot
of couples, Yeah, swing dances, and every.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Time they'd come it'd be a different match set.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, the couple wouldn't leave with each other, they'd always
live with another pair.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Everyone's ordering pina coladas.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
First. He wanted to drink for free, then treat all
his friends for free. When I pointed out this was
a acting profits, Jan suggested his bill would be deducted from
lease payments. Fair enough. Then I came in one morning
to find Jan Ed and Ed's friends Sam huddled over
a food order sheet. I was informed, not asked, that Sam,
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who was a chef and admittedly a good one, had
been hired and our little kitchen would be expanding from
bar food to expensive restaurant specials with Sam and Chart.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Oh dude, wait, if you do that, you know how
much licensing you need for that? It's a lot, yeah,
like compared to you connected that because.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You have to get food food handling licenses and that's
like a whole process.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, and plus it could work.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
You should definitely, you know, be talking to Ope if
she's your business partner. I protested, because our kitchen was
very small and not equipped for this sort of food.
The cost would be considerably higher for food and Sam's salary,
and no one discussed this with me as an equal partner.
Jan begged me to give it a try, talking about
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all the reasons it would be great, and I agreed.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Mistake Yeah, because on top of getting you know, the
license for the food, you got to now pay another salary.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You have to revamp the kitchen, presumably if you don't
have the you know, stuff to cook all that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Food, hosts, waiters, waitresses. It's adding like another like twenty
to thirty K month. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Perhaps, but I got the definite feeling this was all
Ed and Jan's desperate need to please her overbearing, controlling husband.
I made it very clear within Ed's earshot that I
wouldn't tolerate any more big decisions being made without my input.
I wasn't nasty, but I was clear and firm. After that,
things changed. Ed was constantly around monitoring me in some
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weird way. Jan, on the other hand, became scarce. I
was juggling work at school because I didn't want to
quit my main job until I was sure the bar
would be successful, then straight to the bar until close.
It was rough. When I confronted Jan about her lack
of participation, she insisted I quit my teaching job so
I wouldn't be exhausted. She claimed she couldn't spend time
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at the bar due to issues at home. I didn't
have a husband ouch and my kids were practically grown,
so I should be more available.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Dan, oh, he never wanted this to get as big
as you're making it. It was supposed to be another
side business.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It was Jan, I don't know. If you're trying to
go from one thing to another, it has to be
expl It has to be more in the It has
to be more the amount than you working your teaching
job and the side gig. It should be, like, I
don't know, a little bit more than that.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Casey Roberts says, this is how small businesses fail. They
want to grow too fast without a solid plant.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I've seen it happen.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I wasn't happy, but couldn't let the place go without management,
so I ended up quitting my job to manage the bar.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
O ooh.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Fortunately it was doing okay, okay, cool. Things rolled on
for a while with me working my tail off, and
Jan showing up long enough to get wasted and go home.
We didn't talk much during that time, but I could
tell Jan and Ed we're having problems. They'd quietly argue
in the office. Then one would usually stomp off tried
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offering support, but Jan would say everything was fine.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
En, Oh sorry sorry. So like the thing with like
working with family and friends. You know, Jan's not a
friend to Op, but like whenever you work with a couple.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Aspect, I'm kind of a friend.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, they did, but over a business thing, over a
business venture.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
They were friends before the business venture, and that's and
then they did it. Yeah, so they were friends, you're right.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I just think sometimes couples want to do everything together
and then it's like, oh, we're having problems, we'll start
a business that'll fix it. Yeah, oh, we have money
and resources. 's throw it at this, throw it at that.
Rather than have a pet or have a kid, try and.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Create something that'll tie you together. It's the kid you're
being pulled apart, exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
The biggest one is the kid one, and that's the
worst one in my kid fix so we'll save our relationship, right, Oh,
that's what.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
The Lobster's All about It's actually a really good film.
Oh you should watch it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I've never heard of this.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You would love it.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Okay. Then my mother broke her hip. I had to
take off about three weeks to take care of her.
There was no one else. I told Jan, and she
stepped up, Thank goodness, or so I thought at the time.
Oh no. When I came back, it was a different place.
Over half the people I'd carefully selected were gone, replaced
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with people I recognized as former customers. Basically barflies. If
you own or work at a place that serves booze,
you know not to drink while working. It causes mistakes
and it isn't a good look. That happened within three
weeks the place was a mess, and I found that
these employees were having after our parties, mostly on our dime,
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with Ed and Jan usually in the middle. The whole
atmosphere had changed. I'd work hard to make it a
respectable place for decent people. Now I was seeing pesterment
of waitresses, substance deals in the bathrooms, and fights in
the parking lot. We'd turned into a dive bar in
three weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
If you have any more, say like, if you have
any kind of weight that you can throw around, you
need to. What's more, Ed had the audacity to try
and order me around. I absolutely let him know I
was not his wife nor some weak woman in need
of guidance, and walked away. The next day, Jan showed
up before opening with Ed. The long and short of
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it was, they accused me of stealing money and being
rude to customers, asking me to give up my share
of the part.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, how am I stolen money when I'm taking care
of my mom?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, I wasn't even here.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What did you see me?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I asked them to show proof I stole from myself
of all things, which they couldn't because I didn't. I
suggested they'd take a closer look at their bartenders and
server is hired in my absence if money was really missing,
since I'd been telling them booze and food items certainly
were for a while. I told them, yes, I had
been rude to a couple of customers. One was a
man I saw with his hand on a seventeen year
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old waitresses but and another man who happened to be
the mayor's son conducting a substance deal on the deck
what I was protecting our employees and businesses. Yeah, you
need to like get these people out, dude, literally like
get them all out. Start over.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Can you call Gordon Ramsey? Yeah, makeover. Wait, there's another
guy that rescue at bar.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Rescue I knew exactly. I was like, yeah, this is
giving me that right now.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I thought about what life would be like constantly fighting
against this, and decided my piece was worth more than
a place i'd have to constantly fight to keep as
it should be. I agreed to let them buy my
share out for less than I should have gotten. That
was what was right for me. So I quit my job,
gave up the house i'd work so hard to keep
for a cheaper rental, and put all my ideas and
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effort into a place they pushed me out of. As
soon as I got it on its feet, I was
pretty bitter. I got more bitter when the man i'd
been dating suddenly decided to date Jan's new friend, who
is now working at the bar. It wasn't super serious,
but he was the first man I'd had interest in
since my husband's passing, so it's stung. Oh I'm pretty
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sure that was on purpose, too, But I thought it
was a bullet dodged.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
For months, I struggled, but found a new teaching job
that turned out to be the best I've ever had,
and was able to buy a new house that's affordable
with one job. I've also met a nice man who's
much more responsible and kind than the one who followed
the crowd. Side note, he came back later expressing regret
at following along with what was pushed at him rather
than sticking with me too late. There is a little
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bit left. But what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, when it comes to the bar, I wish that
you had a little bit more or with steady in
like steady flow with the with the bar and everything
like that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You can't leave it like it sucks. But you really
can't leave a business like that, especially new business, for
kind of any time.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, because my thought is if it was there for
six months, you could be like, hey, I created this,
I helped develop all these things. I don't have the
resources to you know, do x y Z, but I
can help interior design your own bar and do X
y z and like talk to other people and be like, hey,
we grew and got like you know, half a million
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dollars or some or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And also, just don't you know start businesses with people
you don't really know? You know, did you know ed?
Did you know her relationship with her partner?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah, you gotta be so so careful about who you
start a business with or move in with, or move
in with or marry any any sort of long term commitment.
Be careful because you can get stuck with people that suck.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That's true. I knew the boys like for about two wait,
a year and a half, four moved here. I agree, sofio,
let's start a business and seller socks.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Our socks, use socks.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Sure they could be used or not? Brother, Okay, I
mean so, I just have a lot of socks and
I want to get rid of them. And would you
guys buy our socks?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Would you buy us?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You just don't okay, okay, would you buy our socks?
Would you buy our overshirts? Same? They're both clothes and
one's been worn. But why do people want overshirts rather
than like socks.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Because usually when you're getting rid of socks, they have
like holes in them. Yeah they're there, but uh, there
is a little bit left to this story. So we're
gonna read why are.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You getting rid of socks when you already have holes
in your your other socks?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I just need new socks, guys.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You need to learn how to like darn your socks.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Darn it.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, but I never really understood why Jan turned on
me until recently. Oh wait, there was a secret. Oh wow,
a friend who stuck with me after all that happened.
I lost a lot of them because Ed and Jan
talked rap about me, and I took the stance that
people who really knew me would know it wasn't true
and refused to engage or defend myself, which we did
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out the bad ones called and told me that Ed
and Jan were divorcing. Why because the woman that Jan
introduced to my ex was involved with Ed and Jan.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I knew there were swinging. I felt it in my toest.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Jebbie felt it, and it was messy. Evidently, as I
always suspected, Ed was a controlling a hole, I guess
she finally got the guts to stand up to him
and to force him. Karma is queen, y'all, and she'll
get you eventually gigs and votes. That's the end of
that story. But yeah, again, be careful.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Who you start a business with, because I doubt that
she even worked at a golf bar. I think she
just put in golf to you could hint at the
foreshadowing of the story.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, it was just all part of the literary devices
in the story.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, we're like, she worked at a pincolado bar. That
would have been funny. Dude, that's so crazy. Oh, I'm
glad hopefully jan gets out of it and can make
her and they can run back round two without the
abuse of a hulks. I think they made a good
team together.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Did they.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
It feels like copeded everything and she did the business plan,
and the business plan was terrible. But folks, that's the
end of that story, and we're going to get into
the next one. But I need to use the restroom.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yay, my friends ditched my party over a cat?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Was it a cool cat?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
For contexts, I'm very close friends with these people since
freshman year of high school. We met in culinary class
and bonded immediately. Over the years, we gained and lost friends,
but the four of us remained tight. I called them
Bert nineteen Mail, Martha eighteen female, and Brianna eighteen female.
By the way, this comes from Apprehensive Bad six sixty
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six two and if you want to see your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime subredit I'm Riley.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I'm Sophia, and I'm Keon and Op says.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Bert was my closest friend. We played video games together
every afternoon for years. Sure we had our little spats,
but nothing beyond the normal friction you get when spending
tons of time with someone. I know how that's like, Hey,
Martha and I had traveled to another state for a
concert that was an absolute blast. I even house sat
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for her family for three weeks one summer. Brana wasn't
as close to me since she's Bert's sister, but I
never had problems with her until recently.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Uh oh, Bert.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You're in a love triangle. Ope. Oh, Honestly, if I
hadn't invited her, things probably would have gone differently. Now
for what happened. I planned a birthday camping trip from
my eighteenth in May, involving my boyfriend Carl seventeen Mail,
and my three friends. I made these plans early in March.
Everyone got off work. We talked about how excited we were.
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I even made a playlist for the drive because I
was so pumped. You know how much dedication you need
from that.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, I've never done that. I have a lot of
friends who make playlists. I just have one big old playlist.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh no, no, no, no, that's met.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
You can skip through it.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It's literally my likes and like, all right, well just
cueue it up.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh no, I have a specific like, it's a playlist
that I've created over the years.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Alist what about okay, okay playlists or sort of a
journaling of what you were going through in a time.
So you put a playlist together for that time and
then you're like, okay, this is how I was feeling
during that.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Guy, but it's from freshman year of high school to now,
and if you go through it in order, you see
how my music tastes.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, that's just my likes. Literally my likes is just like,
all right, what was I feeling during this time?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And you're like cool, anyways, give me out of this room.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
How many playlists do you got?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You want to know?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I do want to know.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I literally within the last yearly ten, I'm Batman Happier
Active Xploration twenty five, Date Night, Spring of twenty five, Undertones,
Party Time, Homesick Nineties, jam Angie Girl, Rex, Unmatched, Science
Isn't Real, The Homesick You Summer twenty four, Life Moves
pretty Fast, Workout, Late Night Jim twenty three Summer.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, that's too many playlists.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's all that these are happening over years. Look, look
these are all over.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
These are late. There should be a specific number of.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I have one called I'm Batman. Whatever I'm feeling like,
I'm Batman. I won't called hyperactive whatever. I want to
freaking get out after it. Exploration twenty five is what
I'm listening to now.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I've got in Progress. I've got sound Drastic, which is
just a bunch of soundtracks because I don't put soundtracks
onto my main that would be crazy. Okay, I don't
put soundtracks onto my main playlist. Some old music that
makes me sound cool, but I don't really put stuff
on that one because I use you're so lame, relaxing,
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possibly French, You're so lame classical music, and that's it.
I also have in progress Jazz version Dude.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I have one called We're Done Read the story right
is always the best part when you get the talk
and scream music together. The day before the trip, Martha
started pressuring me till her drives separately, with Burt and
Brianna claiming they needed more room. This made no sense.
I'd be driving my mom's newer sedan with six seats
and plenty of space for a weekend trip. Anything that
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wouldn't fit would go into my dad's truck bed. I
explained multiple times that I wanted to drive so we
could all be together, listen to my playlist, and nobody
would feel left out. There was another reason I didn't
want Martha driving. She's honestly a terrifying driver. Every time
she drove around me, I have anxiety attacks from her
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reckless driving. We all know who that is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I have one of those friends. It's Sam.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well, he doesn't have the driver, that's true.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, so actually it's not Sam anymore.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Once she nearly got his tea boone at an intersection
because she decided to turn on red when the left
turn lane had a green light. If I hadn't a
scream stopped, we would have crashed.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That was the last time I let her drive me
though I never told her why to spare her feelings.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
If you guys were real friends, you would have just
told her if she sucks at driving, wellus.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It was my birthday and I'm the most experienced driver.
It just made more sense for me to drive right.
The day of the trip arrives, Martha was supposed to
pick up Burt and Brianna, then come to my house
so we could all leave together. About ten minutes before
departure time, Martha texted me she was on her way.
Paul and I have loaded my mom's car, leaving room
for the three others. Half hour passes no Martha. I
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texted her and Burt, asking what's going on. Martha said
Brianna's cat gotten outside and they were trying to get
him back in before leaving. I figured this would take
maybe ten minutes max. Their cat is overweight, knows where
home is, and is very Fifteen minutes later, Bert calls
me out of breath, talking about chasing this cat around
the yard treats being unsuccessful. This struck me as super weird.
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Anyone with the cat knows that if you run after them,
they'll run away faster. They don't come to you if
you chase them at full speed, it scares them. Most
cats prefer coming to you on their own terms and
will return to where they know there's food. I didn't
want to cause issues, so I just wish them luck
and figured i'd wait out a bit longer. An hour passes,
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no updates. Carl and I didn't know what to do.
My mom speculated that either Martha or Brienna let the
cat out on purpose because Martha wanted to drive herself.
I didn't believe in this theory initially, but everything that
happened afterward makes me wonder. Two hours after our plan
departure time, Carl and I decided we had to go.
Martha texted saying they'd leave as soon as the cat
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came back inside. I would keep searching, even if they
had to stay up super late. We drove to the campsite,
set up the huge timp my parents bought for everyone
to share, and hung out with my family. Still no
updates from the trio. Then it got dark. We realized
they weren't coming that night, but they promised they'd be
there eventually whenever they got the cat inside. Because that
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cat meant everything to Rihanna, Paul and I were understanding
about this, as much as it made me sad we
didn't get to drive up together.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Where is this cat?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I look forward for them on Saturday? Yeah, dude, my
cat peeps. What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I'm confused? Did they like, do they know where the
cat is? Did they lose the cat?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
They just ran outside and they're trying to chase after it.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But I'm like, if you know where the cat is,
how is it this hard?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Also, it's like an overweight cat too.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
How are you this bad at catching a cat? Like
if the cat got out and ran away and you
guys were like, I don't know where the cat is,
but if you know, like you can see the cat.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I agree as someone I don't catch cats. What
I can catch mice. I've caught multiple. The one that
took me the longest was twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Anyways, Saturday morning, no overnight updates. I texted and bothered
them until I finally got a response saying they hadn't
gotten the cat inside, but knew he was in the
neighbor's yard. They tried coaxing him with treats, but he
wouldn't come over. I suggested letting their mom help since
she'd offer, but Brianna refused to leave her cat. Bert
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Martha also refused to leave Brianna alone because the cat
meant so much to her.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
What is this that makes it? Are you giving her
emotional support while she tries and catches her cat? She's
not lost, the cat's just outside. Get the cat? You don't.
You don't need three people to try and get this cat.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And there's so many more effective means.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
To this, so many more like what this is so stupid? Yeah,
Casey Roberts says, this is the worst live ever heard.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Agreed. I was about to say. We got through the
entire day with barely any updates, and another day passed
without them showing up. My family and Carl were pissed,
but I tried seeing the best of my friends. They
had been my friends for so long, and I felt hurt.
They all ditched me over a cat whose whereabouts they
knew he just wasn't inside. Didn't want to believe they
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had malicious intent. That's what my entire family thought, though.
Sunday arrives the last day of my birthday trip with
little to no updates and growing anger over how crappy
the situation was. Carl decided to be the bad guy
and called him out. He sent a long paragraph to
our group chat about what they did was extremely crappy
and hurtful that all three chose a cat over my
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eighteenth birthday brand It took great offense and started calling
Carl mean names and said he had no empathy because
this cat saved her life. They argued back and forth,
with Martha occasionally jumping in to back up Rihanna burn
I mostly stayed on the sidelines reading the messages. Eventually,
things got absolutely nasty. Brandon and Martha ganged up on
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Carl with deep personal attacks. After he tried sticking up
for me, he returned the energy full forced and it
spiraled quickly.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Ay yay, yay.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So what I've learned, and I've said this last week,
but what I've learned with horror movies is usually if
you pick out the monster or like, you know, whatever
the bad thing is in the movie, and whatever's left
is actually what the movie's about. Yeah, I feel like
if you take this cat out of the situation, yeah
that's what the whole thing's about.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, you guys have bad friends and it's.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Tough, Like I have a friend that's struggling to connect
with the people he grew up with in high school.
I'm like, dude, over Tom, you just don't mesh together apart.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, you guys are at like you're all eighteen, So
you're at this kind of big crossroads in life where
you're gonna be all doing different things and sometimes, you know,
the friends that you had in high school aren't the
friends that you're to stay with, And that's okay. You'll
find you'll find new people who don't spend like a
day trying to get this cat inside. Yeah, dude, some
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better cat owners than this person for real.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Bert swooped into defend his sister because he didn't like
that Carl wasn't going to take it easy on her
after the crap she said. The fight went on forever,
and by the end of it, I was sobbing. Nothing
I tried helped. Neither side would stop saying nasty, degrading crap.
I left the group chat out of anger and frustration
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and talked to my mom. H ed up texting Bert,
but that didn't help much. Carl and I tried and
joined the rest of the day, but it was hard
when I kept thinking all about the crazy crap. Martha
and Brienna were saying, felt so hurt, like I didn't
mean anything to him, like for those four years never mattered.
It was devastating and definitely my worst birthday.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I forgot it was your birthday.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah, this entire trip was for the birthday.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It was the birthday trip. Ah. Rough, that's rough, that's real,
real tough, o PM.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Sorry, the three of them have slowly started cutting me off.
It's by offering to do something else for my birthday,
which they never actually planned. They just set it to
look better during their argument. These aren't your friends anymore,
No a friend. The cat probably never got out, And then.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
They don't have a cat, a cat at all.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They call and they're like, the cat's out.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I didn't know you guys had a cat. It's new.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Talk's a little different. Yeah, I genuinely don't believe they
needed all three of them to get one cat who
was just chilling outside in view. Also, are they physically
slow to get this cat because it was overweight and
they could see it?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, that's what I'm like, How is it this hard
for you to get a cat inside? Yeah, it just
can't be.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
He wasn't inside so they completely ditched me. My mom
was also pissed because she'd spent a lot of money
on groceries, a tent, and running the campsite space. She
thanks Martha did this on purpose because she didn't want
me driving, and then it spiraled from there. Honestly, don't
know what to believe anymore. I just know how her
I feel, and that I've completely cut all three of
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them out of my life. I want some other opinions.
Am I the a hole because I wasn't empathetic enough
about her cat being outside? No, we have an update.
We have an update every cat.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I'm sorry if I if my dog got out and
was outside, I mean, it wouldn't be have a problem
because my dog knows how to be recalled, but like,
uh are recalled like a car? Yeah? But what Okay,
But if my dog is outside and I can see
the dog, it's gonna take me, like, I don't know,
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five ten minutes to get that. I guess the cat
is different.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I could get your dog into the house and less intensive.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Absolutely absolutely, I'm just saying if it was a dog
that didn't recalled, But like so say, this is a
cat a bit harder. We put a can of tuna.
I don't know. It's not like if you can see
the cat, it cannot be that hard. It cannot take
hours to get this cat inside.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, aren't cats like little versions of lions?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah? Any kind of they're both lines. Good job, Riley update.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Thanks for all your comments. They brought to my attention
that I wasn't clear enough. Cat is an outside cat?
What it wants to be?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
What when it wants to be Sophia when it feels
like going on?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Want?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, it didn't want to be outside. It wanted to
be inside side, don't catch me, and.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So that's insane. Your cat is an outdoor indoor cat.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It goes in and out often, as do other cats.
They live on plenty of property where it's not a
risk of being overrun. What they knew where the cat
would be, but decided none of them could come. I
didn't come help because there were already four or more
people there. I also realized there's more I didn't include
about why I'm cutting them off. It's not just because
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this isolated incident.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Even if it was, they're gone. I'm sorry they couldn't
come to your birthday weekend because three of them had
to help get an indoor cat or sorr an outdoor
cat indoors?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Can I can I say one of your friend's names?
Or what if Isabelle died this to you?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
But never? She has cats? Actually she has two cats.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
What if she what if you Okay, there's something special
coming up soon? What if she can't make it because
one of her cats are outside? Would you understand?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'd be like, girl, how long is it going to
take you to get this cat? Okay, I'm going to
cut her off, But I'd be like why why boom?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
But also, here's hippercrit.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I'm saying in this scenario.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, this scenario is stupid.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
There's also them just not even communicating with op. It
was like, okay, we have a plan, we have this,
We're gonna try and make it there.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
We'll try and leave in an hour. Nothing. It was
just we can't cut at all. Wrestling the cat's.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Outside, wrestling mama a fat cat? Would it come for treats?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
None of this makes sense.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The catgate, oh Man Bert, especially who's my best friend
for four years, came very rude and back handed towards
me after the incident. He called me stupid and say
I was just joking constantly. Martha just distanced herself from me,
and Brianna and I were never that close anyways. Eventually,
after a big fight with Bert, I decided to unfollow
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them on everything and cut them off. Had no need
for this negativity in my life anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, no, your friends are not your friends, and if
they're being nasty to you, what should have happened? So
what's her face? Who has the cat? Brianna?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Sure, Brianna's like, hey, my cat got out. I know
she's an outdoor cat, but we're leaving. We need to
get her in. Can't be outside all weekend and blah
blah blah. So my mom and I are just going
to try and get the cat. We might be running
over a little late. I'm going to drive up on
my own. I'll meet you guys.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Up there, yep.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And then your other two friends drive up and you
all go up together and everyone's good. And then Brianna
drives up later.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That's it, that's total, that's it. She gets her cat in.
I don't know ten minutes later.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, agreed of freaking greed. Sounds like the cat got
out of the bag, though, But Soon after, Martha sent
me a photo on Snapchat of all three of them together,
all flipping me off.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
What so immature? I know you're eighteen years old, but
I never did this at eighteen, so you're bad.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
They unfriended me and unfollowed me on everything imaginable, even
on my self care non sponsored app. That was the
ultimate reason I decided to cut them off completely, not
just one thing. I have cats on my own, so
I understand how important they are. I also have two
cats that are constantly outside, and I never ditch a
friend from plans. We had months forced my cat inside.
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That's in that story. Guys, is this Katka or are
the friend?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Cat's not real?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Cat's fake fake cat.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Fake news, fake cat.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But that's the end of that story, and we're gonna
jump into the next one.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Hey it's Sam. We're gonna get back to the stories.
But here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
My best friends keep ignoring my girlfriend. What'd you say
we're doing one more time?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Did he actually get you with that? Yeah? That's wild.
Oh that's funny. Oh we got that, we got we
got her.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Writing the title makes me feel super childish, but I
swear it's deeper than what it seems. Some backstory. I
eighteen male, have had a group of friends since I
was six years old, consisting of three girls and me.
I know this might sound unusual, but it's worked for me.
Boys and girls can be friends, and it's weird to
assume they can't. I would know most of my friends,
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well not most. I would say it's happen. You can't
be friends with girls as a guy would never allow it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Hit in't do it.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
There's Allison, probably my realist friend because she's most similar
to me and has been in all my friend groups
since we were six. Then Dina, who's in our circle
but I'm less close to since she went to a
different sixth form. Lastly, there's Olivia, eighteen female, who had
a different circle during secondary school, but we've gotten closer
again in sixth form.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
What is sixth form?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
It's British.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, ah, it's Ritish ace British.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
By the way, this comes from Global Ad ninety eight
thirty five, And if you want to sumit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. So
I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm keon, and op says, I
know my now girlfriend Sam because she knew Dina. Sam
and I have been friends since starting sixth form and
dating since May twenty twenty four. It's going amazingly well.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Oh right, is Opie amel or female checking?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I need male?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Eighteen mail eighteen mail?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Okay, I've never this close to someone before. We're communicative,
open and comfortable. Similar in some ways but not too similar,
with shared interests and willingness to learn about each other's hobbies.
She's a lovely person with a beautiful soul. I feel
silly saying this so young, since anything can happen, but
I'm very secure in our relationship. Sam and I were
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part of a friendship circle consisting of me, her Alison, Olivia,
and three other people. Our friendship group is predominantly queer.
I'm by my girlfriend is queer, and most of our
friends are LGBT and probably neurodiversent. We're all very nerdy
and love D and D, which is how we made
friends initially, except for Olivia, who isn't LGBT and doesn't
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share our interests. Get her out of there?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Why is she in the group?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Why is she there?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I also have the group, but she has zero interest
with everybody else.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
There's nothing here.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Maybe I feel like people stay together in school and
then like once they get out of school, it's like, oh,
I still have to be friends with them, but you're
just on different lanes.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being different as long as
you're respectful. But she doesn't feel like we have common
ground because she doesn't like D and D. Even so,
she and I still have similar interests in things to
talk about. We tried getting her involved with D and D,
but she refused. Everything was fine for over a year
until December twenty twenty four, Oh, when I had been
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dating Sam for almost seven months. Olivia had no qualms
about our relationship until that point.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Uh oh, and now she wants your D and D.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Oh. She was actually the first person I told about
my crush on Sam and was very supportive since we
often gossip about relationship stuff. My girlfriend had mental health struggles,
heightened anxiety, suspected autism, and depression. December was extremely stressful
for her with design projects due, and she's a self
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proclaimed perfectionist. One day everything became overwhelming and she'd been
crying quite a bit. Our friends and I were supportive
and helped her calm down from a panic attack. At
day's end, she was still upset and wanted comfort, but
we had to wait for the bus with Olivia. My
girlfriend couldn't help being upset, and obviously I wasn't going
to ignore that, so I focused on her. Olivia went
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unusually quiet, uncharacteristics, and she normally jumps at the chance
to help crying people. She went on her phone, played
games and ignored my crying girlfriend. I assumed she was
giving us space as a couple, though it made me
angry that she wasn't showing sympathy.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Maybe she shows sympathy to you, and when it comes
to other people less, so your girlfriend doesn't know how
to handle it because she has complex emotions about your
girlfriend Sam.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I think that could be true. I occasionally tried talking
to Olivia, but she'd pretend nothing was making Sam upset.
When we got off the bus, Olivia and I had
to walk two minutes to wear our paths diverse. She
stormed ahead without speaking, classic cold shoulder behavior from her
when she's mad. I tried figuring out what was wrong,
but didn't text since it seemed too minor. She continued
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ignoring us. The next day, I worried it would be
awkward in our shared history class, but as soon as
I was away from Sam, she acted normally with me. Great,
she's done being mad at me for some reason. But
she kept giving my girlfriend the cold shoulder. Every time
Sam texted to apologize, Olivia would respond nice apology or thanks,
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but continue the charad.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Dude, Olivia, you gotta play a little smarter at this game. Yeah, Olivia,
if you're trying to jump Opie's bones.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
This isn't work. This is not how you do it.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Gotta be a little bit more charismatic.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Ah Man, come on, figure it out. She'd ignore both
of us together but be nice to me alone. I
wonder why, Oh, he just doesn't see it yet.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
He's an eighteen year old guy. She doesn't see it, Dude.
I didn't know girl like me until she put her
head on my shoulder. I didn't know Angie liked me
until she held my hand on the first date, and
I was like, wait, I think she's intimating a date.
I don't usually initiate touch until the third Wow. I know.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Damn kept trying to be nice but got nothing. Alison,
our mutual friend, asked her about it during a text conversation,
but Olivia just stopped responding completely. On the last day
before Christmas break, my girlfriend was having a bad day,
still stressed from projects and this cold shoulder situation, and
Olivia was giving her immature cold looks. A mutual acquaintance
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straight up asked her what was going on. I should
have done this. I hate confrontation and am very avoidant,
but I should have stepped up. Her answers still confuses
me because it's, unfortunately all I have to go on.
She's too emotional, she cries too much. Another thing she
cried because of p and I are friends. Mmmmm, she's
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trying to incite discord into the friendship.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That's ridiculous and downright delusional.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Opie. Do you ever have a relationship of troubles go
to anybody but Olivia? Yeah, so I know, the second
you're having issues with Sam, you're gonna go She's gonna
You're gonna go talk to Olivia and she's gonna be like,
she's manipulating you.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Don't you see you can ever go to Olivia about this?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Oh no, sir, She's You're her puppet. You gotta get
out of that.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
And come to me. This confused me so much. Why
would you admit this? She's not an idiot. She should
know this is a childish reason for ignoring someone because
it's not Oh pee, we can all see it. Sam
and I racked our brains because we suspected it might
be about me not being as close to Olivia since
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dating Sam, but just Sam being too emotional, horrible and
very out of character. Oh pee, wake up, aliceon Sam
and I wondered if something was happening in Olivia's personal life,
but we decided it would be weird to ask how
is no one and your friend group realizing what is
very obvious to all of us here.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Also, if your friends someone you can ask, hey, what
how's everything doing. I was talking to a team member
today and they, you know, we got to talk about
her personal life and you know, heart's in the chat
for her hopefully she's doing okay. But you know, she
opened up and was like this, what's going on? I'm like,
that's what you do? Is like, you know, as live.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Do you think that people in the friend group support this?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Support what?
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Like, what what's going on?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
They're like, oh, like they want Olivia yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Know because they can't be that ob I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Like they're they're eighteen, but like I don't think I
was that oblivious at eighteen.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
They can't be that oblivia.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
I mean, not my own about my personal relate like
any like when someone's footing with me I but like
with other people, like a spot it. Maybe that's OK.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's just hard to imagine that's happening to you because
you don't really perceive yourself being in that yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Element, I mean I get it, like for I don't know,
when we get at your stud no, no thanks, yeah,
oh no. When I was in high school, but guys
are like that girl is hitting on you, and I'm like, yeah,
I would never she's not.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I didn't realize until like senior year of college that
people were hitting on me.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
And even then I'm like, is Charlie flirting with me?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Because for guys, and this sounds so bad, but girls
being nice to you, they assume that they're flirting with you.
So it's either if they're nice to you, you think
that they're flirting, or you don't think they're flirting whatsoever.
And you later down the road you realize.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yeah, it's that video of like, is she really into me?
I don't just being she's being nice. I think she
she told me she likes me, but she's just being nice.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
With guys, they tell you they like you like Oh no, no,
that's all most girls.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Well I tell Angie I like her a lot.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Well don't she anyway? Christmas break would hopefully settle things
down right eight. During the break, she had me, Alison,
and Dina over for a movie night. At the end,
she began yelling at me for not having proper manners
all because I was comfortable enough to not say please
for a drink. Alison said it was harsh, and suddenly
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Olivia turned on her. Are you gonna tell me to
go on a live myself? Okay?
Speaker 4 (43:21):
What?
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
These days they say the darnedest things.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
We're gonna tell me that. After eleven years of knowing Alison,
she would never actually tell someone that, especially not Olivia.
This made me worried something was genuinely wrong with Olivia mentally.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Alison reached out to apologize, but nothing was resolved. Olivia
didn't apologize or admit anything was wrong.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Olivia, how's her home life?
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Going Lydia Olivia Olivia. Our hangouts never end like that.
Another odd thing. During break, Olivia's mother asked my mother,
in a skeptical, hush tone, that what do you think
of Sam? Obviously Olivia had fed her mum lies or
exaggerations about Sam. My mum was confused because she couldn't
understand how anyone wouldn't like Sam, who's the most kind, thoughtful,
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sweet person. After Christmas break, nothing returned to normal. Olivia
ignored my girlfriend for a total of six months. We
found new ways of working around it. If the status
quo suddenly changed and Olivia liked Sam again, that would
be weird because of how used to it we got.
It was sad because Sam and I ended up eating
in the library away from our friend group since Sam
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worried Olivia would snap at her, which became a new thing.
Olivia would snap at her for little things, sometimes mock her,
and avoid her presence constantly. This was despite Sam trying
to say he lo include her and wave in the hall.
Super awkward, but luckily our friend group was just as
confused as we were. I still don't get it.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
How okay?
Speaker 3 (45:03):
How do you not get it?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
The reason you don't get it, Opie, because you're avoiding it.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah, you don't want to get.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
It exactly deep down, you know what's happening, but you
want to avoid that reality in whole. Thus you're just
commenting on everything she's doing rather than actually doing something
about it.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
You got to address it. We got to address.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
It, dude. If Sophia was acting me like, this'll be
what's up?
Speaker 3 (45:30):
What is up?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Why doing this? Yeah, and then she'll tell me like
we'll get frustrated each other, and then like we'll talk
later and then and then it's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
That's what you need to do. With Olivia. We always
tried including her in every interaction, but she'd ignore us.
Then she turned around and complained to Alison that she
didn't feel welcome in the group anymore. Wonder why, Olivia,
Though it's six months of this cold shoulders snapping at
Sam for the littlest things, like she was finding any excuse.
Then suddenly, on last day before summer, she bounded up
(46:02):
to my girlfriend and greeted her with a polite smile,
talking normally. This made me think I could finally talk
about Sam in front of Olivia without her getting weird. Again. Nope.
To this day, she still goes quiet and doesn't respond.
When I mentioned Sam just a week ago, her mom
asked mine about my girlfriend in the same manner as before.
I guess I just feel crazy. Writing this down should
(46:25):
make it obvious what I should have done. Asked her
what the heck she was doing. Katie Paladin says they're
also Nerdi Vergent, remembers Sophia. That's true.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
I thought everyone but Olivia was everyone but Olivia is
so like, sure, that might be contributing to it, but
like also, their moms don't realize what's going on, just
like no one in this situation realizes what's going on,
And I'm like, I.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Kind of one person must have.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I kind of don't know what's anymore.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
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but a quick free minute break from ass from our sponsors.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
But she created this environment where I couldn't confront her
properly without feeling like I was overacting, creating conflict, and
confronting her felt pointless after six months. Why did she
ignore her for seven months total? Was it really because
my girlfriend was too emotional? Do you have any final thoughts.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yes, they're all eighteen and teenagers. Yeah, and some of
them are girls that are teenagers and some of them
are guys that are teenagers. They're all young, and they're
all they're all of the Alpha generation. Right, there's alpha.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
No, I think they're the beta. Are they the beta
with the alpha?
Speaker 5 (47:30):
No?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
No, no, Alpha, They're alpha.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
They're alpha.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
They're all alpha.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
They might still be gen Z. Actually, I don't know
what the cutoff is.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Anyways, they're too close to being alpha, so none of
those kids make any sense.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
WHOA you think they're alphas.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Jin alpha or whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, have that conversation with Olivia or a cutter off.
I don't know. You gotta pick.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
One cut her off. Since you're non avoidant, then that
seems like the easiest, easiest way to get it done.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
You can't do this middle ground where you're all trying
to be friends with her and she's actively ignoring your
girlfriend for seven months. That's a bad move. That was
the worst move you could take. But there's a little
bit left before you go. I'll read it and say
she was jealous of my girlfriend previously. She and I
have a sibling like relationship.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
Dude, the cod always change, it can change.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
She's proclaimed she thinks of me like a brother and
that it would be gross for people to assume we're together.
The lady doth protests too much.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
Yeah, no, it's like you're like my brother. But like
you're into it, I'm into it.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
She had a boyfriend during this period who she's still with. Girl,
Come on, you're overthinking it.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Yeah, but guess what, that's all they do. Teenagers only overthink.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
It's true. I just don't understand why she had to
do this. This is very extreme for her. I've started
thinking about whether I'm making excuses for myself and whether
I should have asked what was going on, probably maybe
included her even more somehow, So, am I an a
hole for not reaching out after her signals and asking
if something was happening in her personal life? Am I
(49:04):
an a hole for possibly prioritizing my girlfriend? And that
is the end of that story. You're not the ale
for prioritizing your girlfriend, but you should have brought this
up way earlier. Yeah, don't don't continue to put it
off just because you're like, well it's been so long, Like,
stop procrastinating it, Go talk.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Yeah, The longer you wait, the more awkward. It's already awkward,
and already awkward.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Though, this is challenging me as a six seven no no, no,
no oh. This is challenging me as someone that avoids
things to back ahead on. Yeah with raging fists.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
You got this, but uh, that's the end of that
story and the end of this episode. So if you
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Speaker 2 (49:47):
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