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00:00 r/relationships - Me [27F] with 26M, cheated on me with 8 different girls
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Zam. This is John, your og Okay
Storytime podcast hosts, and we got some delicious, juicy stories
coming up. But if you want to hear that deliciousness,
you know, just stick around for a two minute break
with a word from our sponsors. My boyfriend cheated on
me with eight different girls. I want to walk away.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
You gotta play the field sometimes.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Oh my goodness. I've been with s let's call him
for a total of ten months. The first month or
so was your typical butterfly in the stomach production. By
the end of the first month, we were official, and
we're seeing each other three to four times a week.
Dang a month being official. I would never do that.

(00:42):
Around the second month, that's so slow. By the end
of the second month, he reactivated several of his old
dating profiles on different websites, unbeknownst to me at the time.
By the way, this comes from confused with Teeter and
if you want to submit your own stories, go to
the r slash Okay Storytime. So I write it. So

(01:03):
for the next six months, I was busy fallen in love,
and he was busy dating girls behind my back.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yikes.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
He spoke with countless other people via the internet, took
eight girls out for drinks and slept with three of them.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yikes.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
All the while he was doing all the typical couple
stuff with me, breakfast with his grandma, hotel stays in
the city, swimming with his family, wine tasting with his friends,
helping me move apartments, on and on. So it sounds
like he was the perfect boyfriend and perfect date.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes, he's doing a great job, except at the commitment part.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
All this time got the time management does see. We
talked about how much we were into each other, told
each other we loved one another, joked about how cute
our kids would be.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yes, he's gonna have a lot of kids, have a
lot of kids.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Around the eight month mark, I started feeling extraordinarily weird
about something, and I couldn't quite put my finger on it.
I'd had this nagging feeling from the start, but I
thought it was just my own insecurities, and I did
my mess to swallow them down and carry on. However,
I had slowly started feeling like a burden and as

(02:19):
if he didn't even like me, let alone love me.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Ouch.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
It was such a slow process that I never knew
it even had happened until there. I was one day
suddenly accusing him of cheating on me with his best girlfriend.
I felt like absolute crap, but I had to figure
out what was going on or if I was just
slowly going insane. He denied it, and I found it
difficult to believe him, even though I had zero proof

(02:46):
of anything. A couple of weeks after that argument, I
looked at his phone.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I know it's true, it's true. It's wrong. It's wrong.
I shouldn't do that. What's our rules? If you? I?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well, the rule is if you're if you're gotta look
at the phone, the relationship's already over.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, And if you can look at the phone if
there's probable cause. But that sounds like there wasn't probable cause.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, except but I mean, the relationship is already over.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah. Well, I saw that he was talking to another girl,
and I confronted him about it. He told me that
he wasn't cheating, but if things were going badly with us,
he would WHOA. Well, that made absolutely no sense, So
I broke up with him. No, what we like make sense?
That doesn't make sense. Boom dropped. During our breakup talk,

(03:34):
he admitted to sleeping with someone else.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yikes.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
We didn't speak again until after about six weeks. I'd
been on a Netflix binge and mistakenly watched a movie
where this guy cheats on his girlfriend. They break up
and then they have a heart to heart, but why
it happened, and by the end of the movie they
are back together.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I hate those movies.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I totally lost it at that point. I'd been having
such a hard time with no contact, wasn't eating exact that.
I was more or less out of my rational mind
and went as far as looking up his number, girl
on an old phone bill Online.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Girl Girl, old phone bill.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, stay off the phone bill. We ended up meeting
at a restaurant near my place and spent six hours
discussing what happened and why she's living.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Out her own literally doing the movie blog.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
But it was so romantic in the movie, He's Changed.
I was trickle truthed about the entire cheating thing for
about two weeks after that, and then the number grew
steadily from one to two, to three, to four, to five,
to six, to seven to eight.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Girls fool me once, shame on you for me eight times,
jame on me.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
On me seven other of those times. By the time
I had what I believe now to be the full
scope of his cheating, I was already emotionally invested again.
She's back in, she was.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, now that I know he's cheated on me with
eight girls.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Now we can move on and he's got it out
of his system. Yeah, you can commit to me. He
just needed he needed to, like, you know, zoom out
so you can zoom back in macro to micro. It's
the tale is old inside. As of today, it's been
a little over a months in meeting up with him
again at the restaurant. We see each other three to

(05:25):
four times per week. Well, we sleep together. I don't
like you, and have been continuing the original conversation about
the cheating and why he did it. I'm convinced it
wasn't an issue of temptation more than he was actively
seeking an escape from a life he was unhappy in
and in his words, I was a casualty. Now I'm
watching him take a more direct approach to his problems.

(05:48):
I'm so proud of him.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
On top of that, I have never had such excellent
communication with any prior partner or such bad communication as
it was before, what is going on? If I ask,
I am allowed to his phone, Facebook and email. Okay,
so he's being more open. If I'm feeling insecure, we
can talk about it. The problem is I'm ridiculously insecure

(06:14):
in now.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I wonder why.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I totally can't see your insecure. Some days I wake
up and know I should walk away from this whole
thing good. I feel rotten inside and like I'm becoming
someone I don't want to be. I feel controlling. For example,
there's this girl who we hooked up with three years ago,
and they kept in touch as friends.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
They're sleeping together.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Sure, she just got a job in the area and
wanted to meet.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Up with you, so she wants to sleep with them.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
He was going to go until I expressed my insecurity
with the idea. He's told me he won't meet up
with her because he's making sure I'm comfortable, and that
is his number one priority right now.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, and his number two priority is that girl.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Still, I feel like I'm controlling his behavior and I'm mistrustful.
I wonder why I just sent him a text asking
if he was going to meet up with her today.
It was like I couldn't control my fingers. I don't
know what I'm doing. I'm insecure in the relationship for
good reason, but I truly see him trying.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I don't care I'm.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Trying to cheat on you.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, trying to cheat on you.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I believe he's giving it all he's got, he's given something.
I don't feel like I'm giving it enough. I hold
things against him and constantly bring up the pass.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I think you're given too much.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I don't know how to move beyond this. I feel
like a bitter old woman already. I don't want to
break it off with him, but I don't know how
to trust him either. I feel like I'm punishing him sometimes,
and it's painful for both of us. How do I
just let it go? There are at its, there are updates.
But Sophia, do we think we should give this guy

(07:52):
another chance?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
No? How do I let it go? You let him goged, okay,
changed clothes, probably from all the people he's sleeping with.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I also feel I should add that I once cheated
on a boyfriend. I understand that in this relationship some
level of empathy for my current boyfriend, and that we
are both human beings.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
This stuff happens eight times.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I think I might now have a fully forgiven myself
as possible. I'm saying out of the desire for penance.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
We all know that you're a maschist. That's very obvious
from this post.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I mean, maybe she likes it.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, she's like, oh, maybe after the tenth time he cheats.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, it's like it's like the equivalent of like ten
hail Mary's and four our fathers.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know exactly, She's.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Gotta get cheated on eight times, then you're absolved at
it too. I've decided to go in for a therapy
assessment tomorrow through my university. I'm not sure that I
want to leave him. I'm sure, but I don't know
that I can endure my crazy thoughts and feelings of
mistrust much longer. All the comments are helping me so
much right now. Thank you. I feel like I need

(09:00):
to be constantly told that this is bad. It's bad,
but what is good is you're good in therapy to
figure it out. Even just writing this edit, I feel
like I'm wavering and I have to go back down
and read what you guys have written over and over.
We got an edit three. I went to my therapy appointment.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Today.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Nice turned out to only be a screening through which
they would match me up with a therapist through the university.
The screener suggested, however, that I seek long term therapy.
The screeners like, this girl needs it, and.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
She told her the problem and she's like, oh honey,
I give you my card.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I'm giving you my personal phone number. That I seek
long term therapy with a private practitioner, and was given
referrals to three different people. I felt like I walked
into the counseling office all zombied out, but that calling
these people is going to take willpower, and then I
need to follow through. I'm still talking with my boyfriend,
but only intermittently. I will be leaving him as soon

(09:55):
as I find an ounce of strength to do so.
I wish I had been able to see an actual
therapist's day and get some sort of direction on how
to build that strength up or what I can do
in the meantime to protect myself emotionally. I think like,
hang out with your friends, yeah, go to the gym.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Get a support system, or be around your support system.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah one, I'm a wreck, but I'll fall through Reddit
and we got an updates.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Oh boy, I don't know. He said, like, well, whenever
I get an ounce of strength, I'm going to break
up with them. If you already are on the you
know page of I want to break up with him,
I think that you need to just do it, rip
the band it off. I know it feels harder than
it sounds, but just just just go over there to

(10:40):
break up and then leave and then run away.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, but we got an update. My significant other pick
me up from an impromptu dinner this evening. I spent
the entire dinner trying to enjoy myself and him and
us together, but I couldn't do it. I'd promise myself
that I wouldn't bring up my insecurity anymore or questioned
him any further about the cheating, But as we were

(11:04):
leaving the restaurants, it all started coming out of me again.
Before we got in the car, I watched a laughing
girl piggyback on her guy's back across the street, and
I realized that we might not ever have that sort
of simple awesomeness again. I've been reeling from the cheating
NonStop for three months now, and it's only gotten worse

(11:24):
and worse. We kept talking the parking lot outside my apartment,
and it all just sort of devolved into a pulpy
mess within an hour. I forced myself to tell him
that I couldn't do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
She's doing it, she's doing it.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
She's doing it, and that I was so sorry. But
I tried as hard as I could, just like I
promised I would when we got back together. I truly did.
I'm exhausted, I'm losing clumps of my hair. Girl, Oh
my back has started hurt, and I have stomach pains.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
You're experiencing like so much anxiety, you know, on a
day to day basis, Like she said, Oh, well, when
I when I wasn't with him, I couldn't eat, I
couldn't do this. It's like you're you're so much worse
with him than you were without.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, we got more to this story, so I'm going
to jump into it. But he asked if he could
come walk me up to my door. I said that
I would walk myself, and as I started to get out,
he stopped me and begged me to stay. He said
that he was all mine and then I have him forever,
and that he's so sorry. He kept repeating how sorry
he was and it felt so incredibly genuine. No, don't

(12:33):
do it. I had such and affing a hard time
getting out of that car, but I did it. He
then followed me into the parking lot and hugged me
and said he was thankful I tried, and he loves me,
and he's so sorry. It broke my affing heart. I
don't know how I kept walking, hugged him back, but
I kept walking. He called me ten minutes later on
his drive home, saying he doesn't accept that this is

(12:54):
over and that he will wait for my call.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh wait a long time, bud.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, you'll be your own life. He said. He won't
text or facebook me or call me or anything, but
he'll be there well and if I'm ready. I hate
thought with his eight different women. I told him I
wouldn't be ready for a long time, and then it
was silent.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Don't say I wouldn't be ready for a long time.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
And we both said goodbye.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
That implies that you will be ready someday.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I went through my apartment and purged him. It was
the effing saddest thing I've ever done, to throw away
the Valentine's Day flowers in an empty dumpster to get
rid of the lonely sock you left over at my
house to throw away, the pajama pants I stole from him,
the pancake mix he made me pancakes with. I feel
so broken and exhausted and sad. I don't know how

(13:40):
I walked away tonight, and I don't know how I'm
going to stay away.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You're going to block him, block him, You're to block him.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I love him, and I feel so terrible about how
much he's hurting right now because of me. Because I
couldn't do it. I don't know how to grieve this
or what to do with myself. It's more fear than anything,
to be honest, though I feel pretty numb right now.
It was the only way I could walk away at
a moment of numbness from somewhere, I know that tomorrow
morning is going to be absolute crap, And if it's not,

(14:09):
what does that say about me? There's another relevant updates,
But Sophia, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Op, he got there. She dragged herself across the finish line.
I'll take what I can get, But uh, wow, girl,
you're gonna take that recommendation for the long term term therapy.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, we got a little bit more of this story.
So anyway, that's my update. Thank you for all of
your help. I feel like I still need a lot
of it, though I don't know what I'm doing or
where I'm going, and there isn't edits there is edit
all right, he called me no, he said he was
flyre what this guy lies to say that if I

(14:51):
didn't take him back, he would turn into the basis
husk of a human and not give a crap about
anyone or anything in the world. Old he told me
it was his fault that he wasn't loving enough. But
I should have Slash, could have tried harder. And he's
going to wait for me because he thinks I'm just
in the wrong mind frame. I barely thought about him today,

(15:13):
and when I did, it was only because I saw
things that reminded me of him, and not on my
own volition. I felt calm and had a good day.
I guess, so he.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Heck yeah, I mean she was saying, like, oh, what
does it mean if I don't even think about it,
or like if I have a good day, it means
that you've been released from a curse.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
But I think I think because he reached out, I
feel like she's she's still like, I think she barely
thought about him or was that last night? Oh he
called me last That's what I'm saying. Oh, it seems
like she's like, oh, so called late and she's like
and she's like, you know what I'm done. Yeah, that's good, that's.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Good, and that it probably will not last that feeling.
You're probably gonna go in waves of being like, oh,
I want to be back together with him? What am
I doing? What am I doing?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
And then get back together. I'll get back together.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
My wife had an affair with the best man, and
she accidentally confessed it to me.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
He's the best man for a reason, he slams down.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
The timeframe is important here. We have been married for
three years. We were together as a couple for two
years before that, so we've been together for about five years.
By the way, this comes from my POxy at thirty
two and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime supparate it. So
two weekends ago, her sister got married, and of course

(16:35):
my wife is at the wedding party. So as you
would expect, she spent two weeks prior to the wedding.
Helping your sister get everything ready, no big deal at all.
She kept me informed and I knew this was gonna happen.
She took that Wednesday to Friday off of work to
help her, and in fact stayed with her for three days.
I certainly know her sister, but I barely know the

(16:56):
guy who is now my brother in law. In fact,
I only met him a few time, but he seems
nice enough. I show up Saturday morning, a few hours
before the ceremony in hopes of stealing just a few
minutes to see her, not wanting to intrude on the
day since I know she is busy, but I hadn't
seen her since Tuesday. She sees me outside of her parents'
house and sends her brother out to tell me that

(17:17):
she'll come out and see me in the car, which
I thought was odd but whatever. She finally comes out
and sits in the seat next to me and gives
me a kiss, But instead of acting happy to see
me or whatever, she tells me that she has to
talk to me and she doesn't want it to ruin
her sister's day. Oh God, She's like, I've got something

(17:38):
to tell you, but don't make a big deal about it, saying.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I feel like this is coming from a person who
just did a thing that made a big deal.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I think, so, oh God. She informs me that at
the reception, if I still want to go, I might
hear some things about the best man and her, and
she didn't want to be awkward or weird. I just
kind of sat there, stunned. She said that about four
years ago.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Four years, they've been dating and together in a relationship
for five five Oh oh no, she had.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
A fling with him, and that it didn't mean anything,
but she was aware that by nature, I'm somewhat jealous,
and she wanted me to know in advance so that
if I heard something that I wouldn't be surprised. How
do you so callously admit to cheating?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh this is not her first rodeo, or is it?
I don't think so. I think I think she's I
think she's been cheating on the daily and this is
the only one that she's like, oh, like, I actually
have to tell him.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I think she's gotten the dates wrong. I think she
forgot that they've been together for.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Five years or five years.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I think she's gotten the dates wrong.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Oh so she doesn't even realized.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, that's my because I think.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
She got the dates wrong and she cheats a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, I also thought could yeah, And I just kind
of sat there. This was not how I thought my
morning would go. But I told her I appreciated knowing
it and that it certainly wasn't a big deal. Now,
what are you just like a fuse?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's about a blow up. You've been dating for five years.
She jeated on you.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
She went back an house and I went to eat
lunch and decided to meet her at the church. As
I'm eating and reading my phone, it dawns on me.
She said she had a fling with him four years ago,
and we've been together five.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Quick maths, my friend quick maths.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Not really. He took some time.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Slow to very slow maths.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
My first reaction was to blow it off and think
that she just told me the wrong time. But the
more I thought about it, the more I started remember
about a year and a half of us being together,
she had a phase where she was really sketchy about
her behavior, wasn't available when she normally was, and went
on two weekend camping trips that were with friends from work.
Of course, I'm a little not it up over this,

(20:00):
but I know I have a long day ahead of me. Ope,
he's way too chill about this.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, he's like, yeah, I don't worry about that.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Later, of course I'm upset, but I don't have time.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I go to the wedding and sit there watching everything.
After the wedding, they have a line that you walk
by and congratulate the bride and groom, and the wedding
party is standing in line as well. My wife is
standing with some other guy. I don't know him at all,
but the best man was there, and I just went
down the line and acted like it was no big deal.
Get to the reception and it takes forever for them

(20:32):
to come because of photos. She finally gets there and
sits with me. I decided not to say anything, as
I didn't want to distract from the day, but instead
of just letting it go, she then tells me that
each of the groom's men or bridesmaids are going to
dance and that she is going to be dancing with him.
I ask why when she was not his partner for

(20:53):
the party, and she said that the main of honor
and her partner were actually married and wanted to dance
with each other. At this point, I'm a little more
than perturbed, but I try and not let it show. Thankfully,
I was smart enough to not drink, because I freely
admit I'm an angry, wasted person, so I know when
not to even partake. She talks to everyone around her,
and then the dance comes and he comes over and

(21:15):
extends his arm and she gets up. I try not
to watch, and in fact I make it a point
not to. She comes back with him in tow and
they are joking like the best of friends. She decides
that it would be a good idea to introduce us,
and while I didn't say to f Off like I
wanted to, my greeting to him was probably less than cordial,
but it did not deter him from sitting and talking

(21:37):
with her for a few minutes. The more they sat
and talked and reminisced about old times and places, the
matter I got.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I mean, even if she didn't cheat, even if there
wasn't overlap, like put some boundaries here, like you know,
don't dance and be all lovey lovey and be all
flirty right in front of your.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Part, I mean, like ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I have some respect, like even if I feel like
for people that you have had past romantic history with,
the walls with them should be higher. I agree, you know,
like you should shud, I feel like you should give
even more space. I agree than you would, uh, just
like any old person.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Eventually I got up and went to the bathroom, and
when I came back, he was gone. She decided to
tell me that she thought I was rude, which was
not what I was all about here, and at that
moment I told her that this wasn't the time or
place to talk about it, but rest assured we would
talk about it later. She sat there and then said
that she was going to change clothes, and as soon
as she got back, she was telling her sister that

(22:40):
we were leaving because I had ruined her day, but
she didn't want me to ruin her sister's day as well.
I told her that I was perfectly capable of not
being a bother to her or her sister the rest
of the day, and that I did not want to
be the cause of any drama.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
So I would prefer to any drama is being He's.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Making so much less drama than he could.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Oh Toby right now and I also I hate how
she is, Like, look at what he's doing. He's ruining
the day I have to leave. A man's just like
sitting there.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
He's just sitting there. Man. She went and changed clothes
and then came back all in a huff. Now I
understand I have not said a word to her. I
even shook the other guy's hand. I guess I just
looked miserable, So that's what she was basing this off of.
She was adamant about not staying, and so I said
that if she really wanted to go, we could go,
but if she would rather stay, I would be happy

(23:33):
to stay. Or if she would like since I came
in my own car, I would leave so she could stay.
She at first said that we should stay, but then
said if I couldn't act any better, I should leave.
I asked how I was acting, and she said it
was obvious I was trying to be like a silver
back gorilla, wanting to fight. I didn't know whether to
laugh in her face or be offended. I went back

(23:54):
in and sat down while she mingled with the other guests.
I talked with her brother for a while, but then
ultimately ended up back at our table. Talking with her grandma.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Would you leave or would you stay?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I would have confronted her way earlier.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, but I mean, you also don't want to derail
the wedding too, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Or but he found out before the wedding started.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Like you would have said something before he didn't. But
he didn't do quick mass, that's true. Yeah, he was
buffering for a while. So like I think I would
leave the wedding, he would leave the.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Wedding, yeah, and then confront after.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah. I feel like I wouldn't be chill enough to
stay at the wedding. I feel like I would feel
terrible to be sad. I probably won't cry a little bit.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
We leave at the same time, and I arrived home
just before she did. I was sitting in the living
room waiting on her when she came in and did
not beat around the bush. I simply asked her to
retell me the story about this other guy, and she
said it word for word like before. After sitting and
looking at her for a time, I just said, are
you sure about the time frame, and she said she

(24:58):
want Oh god. I then reminded her that we have
been together for five years, so this fling was well
over a year into our being together. What happened next?
I can't confront final.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yes, don time man has been a holding that car
just just just sitting on it, just sitting on it
like a little little hot coal, and I'm ready for
it to breathe.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
What happened next? I can't really put into words. Instead
of being flustered or denying or anything, she simply said,
I know, sorry, she didn't get the math wrong. She
just doesn't He just doesn't care. I start to explain,
and she tells me that they work together and that
it was just a physical thing. It was just a

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physical thing.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's cheating. I'm sick of this.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Is this woman?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Who is this person she is? Does she not know
the rules of engagement, the rules of dating? That is cheating.
You've just described cheating, and says run my guy.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
And she felt like we weren't in a great place
at the time, and that she never had any feelings
for him and never had any real intentions of leaving me.
She just was having some fun for a few weekends.
She said it was She said that it was probably
a mistake on her part, probably.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
But she's not even admitting it's a mistake. She's like, oh, no, no,
I did a good thing.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I did a good Oh sorry, sorry, I didn't finish
that sentence. She said it was probably a mistake on
her part to tell me now, but she didn't want
me to get blindsided.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, She's like, I should have just never told you.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I did not take this the way she thought I would.
I guess. We had a very large argument and ended
when she told me I was being a child about
all of this.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
You cheated.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I feel like she's treating him like a child, in
the sense of like when a child falls down and
instead of being like, oh my god, are you okay,
like are you hurt, being like you're good, child, look
good to you, and the child's like, oh, I guess
I am, Yes, I am. I feel like that's what
she was hoping for. She's like, yeah, I cheated on you,
so that we were married and this happened way before that,

(27:07):
and that our life together now has nothing to do
with him or that time. Well. Two things One I
adamantly disagree with about this has no bearing on us,
she having cheated on me and doesn't even have the
god dang decency that feel guilty about it. Two, I
hate being told I'm childish when I get upset it
or something. It pisses me off to no end because

(27:28):
that is her way of acting superior to me. I
told her I needed time to think, and she told
me there was nothing to think about. We loved each
other and this didn't change anything. Girl, he doesn't love
you anymore. That was two weeks ago, and I still
am not over it. She's been trying the past few
days to get me to talk to her, but I
admit that, for whatever reason, I'm not viewing her the

(27:50):
same as I did before. Part of me is like
that this is stupid. It happened a few years ago
and we're married now and there hasn't been any problems
at all. But then part of me is like I
just found out she cheated on me, and it hurts
like a mother effort. And what makes it worse is
that instead of trying to understand how I feel, she's
trying to guilt me into just not even thinking about it.

(28:12):
I don't know what to do. And there is an update, folks.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I mean, I think, boy, maybe maybe if she said
I cheat on you and I'm sorry and I want
to work through this, you could get therapy, or you
could have a long conversations with each other and work
towards you know, a relationship that that feels that feels good.
It would damage it, for sure, but maybe you could

(28:37):
work towards something. Yeah, but you can't work towards something
if she doesn't even admit that this is an issue
or a problem. Like, no amount of therapy, no amount
of conversation will fix someone who just will not admit
to anything.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
She doesn't think that she's done anything wrong.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
And that I think honestly, like usually we're like, hey,
you know, you know, get a little therapy and then
maybe divorce. I feel like this is like going to
go straight to divorce because she's not willing to work
on it. No.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I mean if she cannot even admit, well, she admitted
so readily that she cheated on you because she didn't
even see a problem with it.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I didn't see it, dude. And with that, I mean
that's something like the psychopath behavior.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah. Updates. First, I want to clarify something from my
first post that I really did not spell out very well.
It doesn't have any real bearing on anything, but for
some reason it bugs me that I made this part
sort of Murky. The maid of honor not my wife
was married to the groomsman who my wife walked down
the aisle with. There were some people who thought my

(29:39):
wife was trying to arrange the dance, but I do
know for a fact that this part was legit. However,
it doesn't mean she didn't try and offer to let
them dance round any other form of manipulation.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
She's kind of gaslighting, she is. It's not a big deal,
Like we weren't even married. We were just in a relationship.
Like get over it.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, but uh, we're gonna get it to this. So
the maid of honor not my wife was married to
the groomsman who my wife walked down the aisle with.
There were some people who felt my wife was trying
to arrange the dance, but I knew. But I know
for a fact that this part was legit. However, it
doesn't mean she didn't try and offer to let them
dance or any other form of manipulation. But I just

(30:19):
wanted to try and clear that part up a little.
I'm here because I have gotten honest to God over
forty requests for an update since last week. Thank you
for your guys' concern on this, and I wish I
had some real ballsy statement to make about how I
stood tall and heard to the curb. But sadly, that
is just not what happened.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
No ohe have standards for the love of God to
be blunt.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I'm in limbo. There have been developments, but all they
have done is make it harder for me to decide.
Last week, I was mostly angry, Then as the weekend progressed,
I became mostly sad. I want to be able to
hate her and flip that switch that tells me I'm
being walked on and I'm a suck her, But it's
just very hard for me to do that because I
still love her and this is ripping me apart. Here's

(31:07):
what has happened of any consequence. She finally came to
the realization that I was not going to just get
over this. This then brought her to the realization that
I might want out of the marriage. This then brought
on a near nervous breakdown from her. Someone a Lot
a Lot from the first post stated that she would
try and manipulate me like that, and believe me, I

(31:28):
was taking those words. Start when I thought she was
having crocodile tears. But it soon became apparent to me
that she wasn't acting or faking. She was having a
legitimate panic attack.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Oh, maybe she finally realizes that her actions have consequences.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Maybe this led to an er visit, and that led
to an overnight stay in the hospital and then to
new medications and a schedule follow up with her doctor
for later next week.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Okay, so she's not faking it. Okay, so she's a
really good actor.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Actually, this brought her family into it, and that in
turn led to long conversations all the way around. When
we got home with her family in tow I asked
what she wanted to do since there was a house
full of people, and she said she wanted to be
with her mom for a while. That was fine with me,
as I had no desire to hang around all day
with her dad or sister, so I said I was

(32:21):
gonna finish up something at work and would be home later.
Two hours after I get there, I get a text
from her begging me to please come home and that
she really needs me to talk with her. So I
finish up what I was doing and head home. I
am greeted on my own front porch by her dad
who asks if he can talk to me for a minute.
My anger level was already somewhat I but I was

(32:43):
ready to go to war if she had dumped a
crap seck of lies on me With her dad. I mean,
it's not like he and I are best friends in crap,
but I've never had a bad moment with him, So
I really wasn't going to be happy about the beaster
who broke his baby's heart.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
We sat on our deck chairs and he with his
opening salvo. He said that she told them when had happened,
and that he wanted to apologize to me because he
said that he felt like he did a really crappy
job as a parent, and that this mindset that she
had was really a creation of her mother's. Got to

(33:18):
blame it on mom, and that while he loved both
of them, he said they were wrong and he had
told his wife years ago that telling the girls that
whatever happens before marriage doesn't count was a horrible idea. Ooh,
that's what they said, and value system to instill in them.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, bro, what does that say about your own marriage?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
What is that? Said?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
She was probably cheating on you left it right before
you got married.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Sorry, if someone says, if you says to someone else, no, no, no,
don't worry. Anything before the marriage doesn't count. I would
be like, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
I do know people with moms that have said.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I hate those something I hate that, I hate that
it is whack. Yeah. He then said that he wasn't
there to stand up for what his daughter did, but
he just wanted me to be aware that what she
was saying and now she was acting was simply because
she honestly believed that being married was an entirely different
life and that they mom and dad had romanticized marriage

(34:20):
to the point that she wasn't understanding real life. Basically,
he was kind of throwing his wife under the bus.
But again, this is not what I was expecting at all.
We shook hands and he said that no matter what
I decided, he still thought very highly of me. Honestly
made me feel really good for that moment.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Hey, you know what, Honestly, I'll take it. I feel
like this is as good of a conversation you're to
get from daddy as you can.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I then went inside, and my wife is curled up
at a ball on her Mom's lap, and you can
tell she's been crying the entire time I've been gone.
Mom gets up and comes and hugs me and tells
me she's sorry and that she loves me, and she's
praying that we can work this out.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
But you, oh the rule, it doesn't count, doesn't count,
only counts if it's marriage.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
My wife is laid out on the couch at this point,
her mom and dad leave and she sits there looking
at me and crying. Okay, this is where I'm gonna
piss off everybody and just tell you that I couldn't
take it.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
No noodle spine, opie noodle spine.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I went to her and we hugged for a long time,
with her telling me over and over no, sorry, she won. Hey.
I know it was the weak thing to do, but
again I have to say in my defense that just
before this incident occurred, I loved her with all my
heart and would have done anything to not see her
in pain. Whatever she had done, I still didn't want

(35:43):
to see her like that.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Look.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
It's very possible that she was putting on an Oscar
worthy acting job, but I honestly don't think so. She
really seemed broken at this point in time. After a while,
when she calmed down, I asked her what she wanted
me to come home and talk about it, and she
said she wanted to get everything out in the open,
so I didn't feel like I was being lied to
or manipulated.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Dude, we're gonna get the truth. I think it's gonna
be multiple people. Yeah, it's not just this one guy.
I think it's gonna be all right, wait, well, three people,
three people.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
To be eat. I think if she is the mindset
that it doesn't count before marriage, then she's she's gallovanting
around now. She had two years of not marriage.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, that's a long time.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
So she wanted me to ask her questions, and I
wish I had written down a list, but I came
up with a few off the top of my head.
She was brutally honest with me, and some of the
questions I asked, I probably shouldn't ask answer because now
the mental image is stuck in there, but honestly it
was there anyway. I just now have confirmation. First, I
asked for dates, or at the very least approximate dates.

(36:53):
I didn't tell her about the engagement concern I had
because I didn't want her to change stories, and she
remembered exactly when they Fortunately, this happened a little earlier
in our relationship than she told me initially, and so
we were not engaged when this happened. I can't tell
you what a relief that was, because I became physically
ill when I thought about that when someone said it
in my last post.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I guess a small win.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Sure. I second asked how many times she went overboard
with this? Because instead of just telling me how many
different dates, she decided to tell me how many times
there was penetration?

Speaker 1 (37:30):
What one, two, three, four?

Speaker 2 (37:32):
F yo? This part of the conversation did not help
me at any at all, and in fact almost broke
me down. In truth, it wasn't that often, and in fact,
there were really only three different days that happened on,
but there were several times during those three days. Nice.
Then came the hard stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Oh how nice? That was the easy stuff?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Okay, again, I'm not the most manly of men, and
I'm ashamed to admit this, but I couldn't get this
out without starting to cry. I asked, why wasn't I
good enough? I am? Why did she not just leave me?
It was her just told me, because at this point
everything came rushing at me, Her telling me me having
to watch them laugh with each other, her now telling
me how many times they did it and where they

(38:19):
did it. She talked during this, but to this moment,
I have no idea what she said. I was too upset,
and honestly, nothing she was gonna say it was gonna
make any bit of difference anyway. But after I composed myself,
I simply told her that the betrayal was horrible, but
honestly her response to me when I found out was
just as bad, if not worse.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
I think worse, much worse. Much, yeah, much worse. I'm
much worse. Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
She agreed with me, and she apologized for calling me immature.
She said that she honestly believed that it wouldn't matter
to me now because we were married. When she said this,
my blood started to boil again. I started to say
something about it, but she jumped in and said that
after talking with her parents, she now sees that this
was very wrong of her and that cheating is cheating,

(39:06):
but she still feels like that our happiness that we
have shared since being married should count for something. I
then replied that I kind of felt like that happiness
was built.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
On a lie, because it was it was he thought
you were being all you know, truthful, and you weren't.
He thought you were being loyal and you'll weren't.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
This led to another breakdown on her part and almost
another er visit, but between Adaman and having her breathe
into a paper sack, we got her calm down. Okay,
probably anxiety. Yeah. I let her sleep the rest of
the night, feeling like emotionally we were both tired. But
come Sunday we were talking again. By this time I
wasn't as sympathetic as I had been when we got

(39:45):
home from the art. I told her that I thought
her introducing him to me was crappy. Me having to
watch her dance with him was extra crappy. It was,
and the fact that she only told me because she
was going to get caught was an elite level of crappy.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah. I don't know if I have any indication that
she has improved as a person. I don't think so
trying to get what she wants.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I don't think it's possible for her to improve as
a person. If two minutes ago she was like yeah,
with thet what which Then I demanded to know why
did she think I would find out? And how many
of the effing people at the wedding ooh besides me?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Well that's even worse, that's even more embarrassing. It's like
it's another thing to have everyone know that you're a little.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Five years five years later, Well, obviously the guy knew,
but then his best friend in the world also knew.
Did I mention that the effort is now my brother
in law? Which then led to her sister finding out,
and she was afraid her sister was going to be
the one to tell me, Oh, it's your sister. Seems
like a good person. I asked how often she sees

(40:52):
this guy, and she said that the wedding is the
first time she's seen him in three years. Then I
lost my crap and asked her if she him during
any of the lead up to the wedding. Oh, fair question.
She got all pissy about it, actingly she wouldn't if
anyone because she was married, right, marriage is the only
apparently that the and I just lost my crap and

(41:16):
had to leave for a while because once again I
felt like she was living on married planet or some
such crap, and the world there is a different place
than for the rest of us. I finally got cooled
off enough to come home and try and be civil
about things. She finally asked me what she could do
to help me get past all of this, which may
not sound like much, but it was the first time

(41:37):
she offered to help me really, so it was at
least a nice gesture. I told her I wasn't sure
what she could do or if there was anything either
of us could do, and that I may never get
over this. Wow, at least no peace is done. Is
a little bit more, but it seems like a piece
like I'm not not I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I thought the last person was. They just crawled.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Out, They crawled back into the hole, and then they
crawled out of the hole. So hopefully OP stays out of.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
That hole in more ways than one.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
No, yes, yes, yes, I give us the finish of
that story.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
She said that she wanted to help because she didn't
want to see me in pain, and that over the years,
she hopes I'll be able to judge her based on
who she is now, the same person she would do anything.
I wanted to work this out. She also wanted to
be sure that I knew that she has been one
hundred percent faithful since we've been married and would never
cheat on her vows. I sarcastically thanked her, which I

(42:38):
admit wasn't the most mature thing to do. Give yourself
a break.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Man, dude, Yeah, I feel like you need some space. Also,
stop asking all these masochistic questions. Stop you just gotta
hurt yourself.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I then asked for a moratorium from further talks till
at least Wednesday. I have two projects I have to
get done, and honestly, I'm just EXAs exhausted and no,
I have no having clue what I want to do.
I shift between periods of red on anger where I
want to punt her out, and the periods of deep
emotional turmoil where I want to just forget this and

(43:11):
move forward with her. Yes, I know this is not
what anyone wanted to hear, and no, I'm not proud
to type it, but it is what it is at
the moment, and that's the end of that story.

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Speaker 2 (43:30):
I accidentally drop my boyfriend's senior dog. Now things are awkward.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Yeah, I'd feel pretty awkward if I just just I'm
alive to sen your dog thing is dead?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I probably is. I twenty one female, have been seeing
my boyfriend, twenty five male, for a little over two months.
In our culture, we don't move out from our parents'
house until we get married. It's hard to hang out
at each other's houses as a result, so we don't
usually do that. By the way, this comes from Puzzleheaded

(44:02):
Egg ninety two forty nine and if you want to
smit your own stories, go to the r slash. Okay,
storytime suppared it. So his parents are on vacation and
he invited me over after work. I came over and
was greeted by his cute little dogs, Scottie. I myself
have never had a dog in my life, and I
have a few family members who have dogs, but mostly

(44:25):
big dogs. Well, Scotty is a small dog. I do, however,
have two cats, and that's really my only experience with
having pets. Needless to say, I don't have much experience
with dogs, and more specifically small dogs. This is all relevant.
I swear I walked in and Scotty started barking, and
my boyfriend said to ignore it, but he only barked

(44:45):
twice and immediately came over to me and started sniffing me.
I was petting him, and he was resting his hat
on my leg and seemed to be really enjoying it.
My boyfriend was honestly kind of shocked and expected Scotty
to bark more and didn't expect him to be so
welcoming anyway. I asked my boyfriend if I could hold
Scottie because I didn't want to just pick him up

(45:06):
if he didn't like being held. My boyfriend said that
he probably won't let me, so I was like, whol,
But then he picked him up and put him in
my arms. Oh interesting. He was like, he probably won't
like it here. Yeah, what he's just trying to set
you up to fail, man, it really is. He's like,
I don't want this dog anymore. I told him right

(45:28):
away it's okay, and to take him back if he
doesn't like it, but my boyfriend kind of insisted and
was like, no, he likes you fine, he's trying to
like frame. OK. He's like this dog is so old.
Take it. He loves being Hell.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
You want to hold him?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Scout Scottie and the dog's like it's like one of
those little white, crusty dogs. I was like, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
After like five seconds, Scotty started squirming in my arms.
I see you. Uh Now, when my cats do this,
it means they want to be put down immediately. Makes sense. Again,

(46:11):
I don't have much experience with small dogs, like I
mentioned before, and just assumed to do the same thing
I always do with my cats. When they start doing that,
I simply moved my hand from underneath them and let
them jump out of my arms. Yeah. Yeah, different, It's

(46:33):
not right. I did this exact same thing with Scottie,
and unfortunately he fell out his side, I believe, and
immediately started crying or making some noise that was obviously
expressing discomfort. Did you break this dog's leg?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:49):
How long did the crying go on for? I just
I'm trying to imagine you can I have an animal
like a stuffed animal? Please? Here you go what I'm imagining.
So you're the boyfriend, Okay, hand this to me. H yeah,
you probably won't like. Can I hold it being held?

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Wait, you go first? Can I can I hold him? Uh,
he probably won't like it, but you go, okay. And
then and then he does this on the ground. Yeah,
exactly that, he said. I immediately started apologizing because it

(47:25):
would never ever be my intention to hurt anyone, especially
not my boyfriend's dog. I honestly started panicking because I'm
tall and that was a pretty big fall for such
a small little dog. My boyfriend is in veterinarian school
and immediately own, well, you know what, that's good? Yea,
that's are so expensive and immediately looked worried, which made

(47:49):
me start to freak out and ask him if he
was okay. My boyfriend was just like, give me a minute, space,
Giver space, people. I literally had no idea what to do,
say anything. I felt like I had done enough at
that point and just wanted to let him do his thing.

(48:11):
But I just felt so awful that every few minutes
I just kept apologizing. After twenty minutes, my boyfriend said
that he was probably gonna need to spend the rest
of the night looking after him to make sure he
was okay. So then I said I completely understand and
got my stuff and started to leave. He said I
could stay a little longer if I wanted to. But
I said no, girl, and that I just wanted to

(48:33):
go home and leave him alone. I understand that she
probably feels like super guilty. Oh yeah, but it probably
would have looked better if you stay like he Probably
it probably wouldn't have been awkward in the long run
if you had been like, oh my god, I'm literally
so sorry and like him, help him out. Yeah, yeah,
I could understand one to get out of there.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Yeah, but just like I, okay else any other dogs.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
I literally don't know what to do and cried the
whole way home and still am. Right now, what can
I even do to make this right? I can't take
back what I did, which is what I wish I could.
I would have never ever done that on purpose, and
genuinely believe that he would just jump out of my
arms like my cats do. I never thought he would
just fall.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Literally imagine this dog just being like h that was
like perfect, gosh, I'm assuming this dog is fine, which
is why I'm making more jokes about it, and she's
just so concerned. Yeah, you know, like what if Scotty

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is a concussion or a broken leg or something worse
and he's permanently injured because of me.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Do dogs can't get concussions?

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
Concussions are a new thing for humans. It came out
like fifty years ago.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
It came out. It's a new tren. We unlocked it.
It's all theresions.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yeah, everyone gets good caustion nowadays.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, it's a It's an evolutionary thing. I literally don't
know if I could forgive myself. I just feel like
a horrible person and I don't know what to even
say to my boyfriend at this point, so I'm giving
him space. Someone please give me advice on what to do.
How can I make this better? Is that even possible?
At this point, I'm genuinely, so so so remorseful and
feel like such an idiot for doing that. I just

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wish I would have gently let him down instead of
letting him jump. And I literally feel so freakin' awful.
I can't stop thinking about it. Good girl, is my
boyfriend gonna hate me now and break up with me?
There's just so much running through my brain and I
don't know who else to turn to right now. Any
advice is greatly appreciated. Man, there are reason update. Oh really,

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I know exactly what you need to do, but do
you know, Uh, well, I.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Don't know what to do, but I just don't think
that the boyfriend's gonna break up over this.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Girl unless you unless his dog is dead, You're fine.
You text him, you say, hey, sorry I had to leave.
I felt so bad, truly. Yeah, you know, I've only
had cats around. I don't know why I thought that
that would work with your dog. Sorry about that. Yeah,

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how's your dog feeling? How's Scotti feeling?

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Let me know if I need to help out with
any vet bills, if anything's if he's injured, truly super sorry, Yeah,
me come over with some trees. Yeah yeah, the tree?
You say, like, yeah, literally repeat that. Fix it up
a little bit. You're fine. Yeah, there is an update, folks,
let's get into it. My boyfriend twenty five male texted

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me twenty one female the night this all happened, saying
that he understands and that accident's happen and we could
still hang out the next day. So obviously I assumed
that things were okay and I was looking forward to
see him. The next day came around, and the first
thing I did when I woke up, was text him
and ask about how little Scotty was doing. He was
at work, so it took him a little while to respond,

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which is completely understandable. He said better, still in some pain.
I apologized again and said that I was glad he
was doing better. A few hours later, I was at
the grocery store getting a few things and decided to
get Scotti a toy because I had felt bad about
the situation. I texted him again and said that I
bought Scotty a toy and couldn't wait to give it him.
He has still not replied to my previous text when

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I apologized again, but again he was at work, so
no biggie. I assume when he got out he would
apply to both of my texts. About three hours later,
he texted me saying, I mean, there's not much else
to say. Okay, Well now, oh, no acknowledgment of the
text I sent him about the toy, No confirming if
we were still gonna hang out. He's the one who

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said we would hang out the night before. Literally nothing. Obviously.
I was a little baffled because I couldn't believe that
that's all he had to say. I thought he'd at
least even acknowledge the text about the toy, like, I
don't know, at least something a little more than I mean,
there's not much else to say. At this point, I
really didn't know what else to do. I apologized fusely,

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as many times as I could, offer to pay for
VAT bills at if necessary. There you go, bottom a toy.
Checked up on him. Literally everything that I thought would
help the situation. I did, and it seemed like he
was more mad at me than even right after it
initially happened. Interesting, I've you did everything you could at
that point, and if he's still like I'm gonna break

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up with her over this, well silly? Yeah, I also too.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
I wonder if it's the kind of thing where it's
like if since you keep bringing it up, he's like,
you know what, yeah I am, you should be sorry
about this sometimes like yeah that the more it happens,
the more they're like, okay, like maybe I should actually
be really upset about this, and then they've become that yeah.
So I wonder if if her like because yeah, I mean,

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at a certain point, there isn't much else you could say.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
It's just like, yeah, it's just some pain.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Then you're just like I'm so sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
And then if you're expecting something in return, it's like, yeah,
like what else, no need to say to that anymore.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, at this point I just texted him back, Okay,
I'm sorry again and wish this never happened. I'm just
giving you space at this point because I don't know
what else to do. Just reach out to me if
and when you want to talk to me again. He
texted me thank you, and that was literally it. This
was two days ago at four thirty pm. He didn't
talk to me all day yesterday and hasn't spoken to

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me today either. Literally, not one word. Girl. There's a
little bit left to this story.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
I think it's I think they're not going to get
back together.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, it seems like he's not taking it well.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
Yeah, Well, with how often she is replying, how often
she like feels like she needs to like apologize, I
think she's clearly not getting much back.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I guess I feel like she was almost in the
clear and then maybe went a little bit too ham
and now it was no longer in the clear. Now
it's kind of like, ah, yeah, and that sucks. Yeah,
it does suck. Maybe I'm being rude at this point,
But does anyone else think that he's taking this too far?
Or just me? I don't know if I'm being cruel,
So please let me know if I am. But not

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talking to me for almost two days over something that
was genuinely an accident and then I have done everything
in my power to make up for it seems a
little harsh. Yeah, is this deserved and I'm just being cruel?
Or is he taking it too far? Please be honest
with me, because I genuinely don't know how to feel

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or what to do. I'm the kind of person who
believes if you can go an entire day without talking
to me, then you clearly do not like me at
this point. That's the message I'm receiving. Do you all
agree or think that this is deserved? I don't know
if all. I don't think it's deserved. I do think
that he's maybe over this relationship.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Yeah, I think it's just kind of like, ah, you know,
when you're like just started dating someone, you don't even
love him yet, and then they drop your dogs.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
It's just kind of like ruins the lie, just ruin
the VI. I don't know. I just think that, Yeah,
the vibe was just off. I think I think his
was off from like not talking to her. Forced you
to hold that dog? Yeah, yeah, don't forget force that
dog on him? This your honor?

Speaker 5 (56:14):
Yeah, against your will?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
And yeah that dog did not want to Yeah, like,
sorry you dropped him.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
But who was the one that was making him be
held when he knew that he didn't even like to
be held?

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah? Yeah, so I think he's in the wrong too.
I rest my case.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
I rest my case, and that dog my boyfriend got
another girl pregnant after he asked for a break.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
That's not a break.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
I met my ex boyfriend about two years ago at
a time in my life that I wasn't expecting nor
seeking out.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
A serious relationship.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
I had ended a six year relationship about eight months beforehand,
and I was perfectly content having fun at being single
for a while. But alas he came out of nowhere
and completely stole my heart. By the way, this comes
from Painted Warrior, and if you want to submit your
own stories, go to the r Social Okay Storytime sepreddit.
So we fell in love almost immediately, and from the

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first day we spent together we were inseparable, and our
friends called us Bonnie and Clyde. We ate together, slept together,
worked out together everything.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
We made plans. We wanted to finish.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
School and get married, have kids, the whole thing. Our
relationship was passionate, to say the least, but towards the
end it got hard. He seemed distant and frustrated all
the time. He'd break plans at the last minute to
go out with his friends instead. I sat him down
about two weeks before he left me and asked him
to come clean about what was going on. He told

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me that he was feeling lost and depressed, worried about school,
sick of his family, and terrified of failing, and it
was distracting him from our relationship and even making him
resent me because I was not facing those issues. It's like,
you're doing too well, too well, dude, it's bothering me.
I genuinely believe that he was depressed.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
He had lost weight, was.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
A work out regularly, and was constantly complaining of getting
no sleep. The way that he was handling his own
personal issues was affecting our relationship hugely.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
But after this talk, I thought, surely things would improve.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Two weeks Later, on a Friday, he called me to
let me know that he had been going out that
night with an old friend for some drinks. I hadn't
seen him in about four days, so I was obviously
upset that his rare free time wasn't being spent with me,
But in the end I told him to just do
what he wanted and to have fun. About an hour later,
he called and said that we needed to talk. I
told him that if he wanted to talk, he had

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to do now, and I wasn't going to wait until
morning because he had suggested going to breakfast planning to
dumb me over some pancakes messed up.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
He's a good pancakes. Well they better be. They better
bing did bankcaches, That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
He said that he was unhappy, that all he wanted
to do was go out and drink and have fun,
and that he just needed some time. Of course, I
sobbed and begged for him to change his mind and reconsider.
He said he loved me like crazy, but needed some
time to sort out his problems with the additional stress
of a committed, serious relationship.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
About five months.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Past and even though we were not together, we talked
almost every day. What We ran into each other at
the gym and the bar, always hugging each other tight.
One night, he even showed up wasted at two am
and spent the night claiming that he couldn't sleep without me.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Girl, I don't trust this man. Girl, don't let him
get away with this. Yeah, come on.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
We celebrated Christmas and each other's birthdays together, getting each
other presents and cards. He texted me at midnight on
Valentine's Day because he wanted to be the first one
to say Happy Valentine's.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Girl, save yourself. If he doesn't want to be in
a relationship, he doesn't want to be in a relationship
with you, and he is stringing you along, He's.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Just keeping you there as like a like a default. Yeah,
I know I have someone there who cares about me.
I just I just want to look for other people
while I'm at it.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Exactly. Don't be his default, the first one to say
Happy Valentine.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
That's what you say on your birthday? Yeah, not like
a Valentine's Day. You usually don't have like a ton
of Valentines. And to be the first one. Come on,
he'd comment on my butt at the gym tell me
that I was the prettiest girl there, and he apologized
for hurting me and told me I was the best
thing that ever happened to him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Yikes, Well, then he would be with you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Yeah, Obviously, I had hoped that things would work out,
and I realized that maybe we didn't need to rush
getting back together. He had kept me close this long
so that he was still madly in love with me,
but he needed to worry about himself.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Girl, he's just not add into you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Then I found out two short weeks after he had
dumbed me, he had a one night stand with a
girl at a bar and got her pregnant. He has
known about it since November and kept it a secret
from everyone, including me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I was devastated.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
What the f was he thinking keeping me close while
planning to be a father.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
He cried when he told me so that he effed up,
they ruined everything, and asked me to never forget give him.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
I wished we could curse on this stream, but I
did forgive him, though, after I got over the initial
anger of feeling incredibly betrayed. He had told me about
a month beforehand that he hadn't been with anyone else,
And then the immense sadness that followed, I realized that
I still wanted to be with him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I wanted to share the experience with him and help
him along the way.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
If he had had it, if he had had a
child when we met, it wouldn't have made a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
So why would it make a difference now, Girl, he's
trying to get you to raise his child. You're not
in a relationship with him. Yeah, he doesn't want to
be in a relationship with you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Yeah, Like, I think everything that you just said is like,
is why it should make a difference now. Like if
you started dating while he was co parenting with someone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Sure, totally different. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
But if he lied to you about sleeping with another
person while you guys were on a break and yet
kept you along for five months saying that, oh no,
I don't want to be in a relationship with you,
but I am madly in love with you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Girl.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Also, by the way, another woman is five months pregnant
with my child.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Literally, just like, imagine that you are your friend. Imagine
that your friend comes to you and said, oh my god,
this guy that I'm not dating and tells me he
doesn't want to date me, but I've been hooking out
with him for a while. He just told me that
he's pregnant. He got another girl pregnant, Yeah, and so
I'm gonna help him raise the kid. But he still
doesn't want to be in a relationship with me. What

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would you say to that girl? Yeah? I I hope
to God you say, oh what, don't do that? What? Look?
Don't don't freaking do that? Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Sure he would have new responsibilities, but I told him
that I would never ask him to have abandoned them
or the child's mother. You just need to abandon him, OPI. Yeah,
I wanted to know her too. I wanted to be
there when he met his baby and fell in love
with her. I told him all of this, poured my
heart out and made promises.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Ah ya YadA. I told him that I was still
holding him to all the promises that he had made me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Girl, he's already broken them. You leave him mind, but
he won't even talk to me. He claims he still
doesn't know what to say and that he's so confused.
He said that he expected me to just walk out
of his life, and when I didn't, he was incredibly surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
He's like all the other girls that I've completely screwed
over left me, but you're dull enough to stay. Yeah,
that's like interesting. I'm just such a terrible boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
You should never forgive me, But the fact that you
stay is just like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Fall in love. Still don't want to date you, but wow,
but that warms my heart. So cool that I can
do that to you and you'll forgive me. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
At this point, I'm simply not willing to give up
on what we had because of a mistake.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Crap happens. I'm huh.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
I'm not an angel either. How can he not be
willing to accept what I'm offering? He said, leaving me
was his biggest regret. How can he not accept the
opportunity to undo that? How can he just walk away
from me again?

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
He said? How do I explain to my.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Child that when we were on a break, I got
someone else pregnant? How can he give himself a life
sentence of never being with the person that he loves.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
I feel so lost without him. When I say that
I need him, it's an understatement. I really to do
this with him.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
As a team, Like he always said, we were and
we do have an update. But ah, she's lost man,
and she's delulu. She is caught up in his lies
promises of love. She's lonely.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
She's lone. That's what it is. She's lonely, like girl,
Read this over and imagine it's not you. Please, we
do have an ough date. Let's see what happens. First
of all, thank you to everyone for the advice.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
As hard as it is to hear, I appreciate so
much that people took the time to read my story
and weigh in on what I should do. Really, to
be honest, no one has said anything that but I
didn't already have consciously understand or no, I should do
few things. Part of the reason I chose to forgive
him is that is what I was taught to do.
If I don't forgive him for what he's done to me,
I'll forever hold a grudge against him stopping me from

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moving out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Girl, you can't move on right now.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Someone asked about his relationship with the other women, and
I know very little about it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Really.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
One of the first things my ex told me when
he was explaining himself was that really she didn't mean
much to him, and if she hadn't called him up
and said that she was pregnant, he may have never
seen her again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Early you don't mean much to him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
Yeah, So I do agree that it's not very likely
that this pregnancy resulted from a one night stand, although
we all know it is possible. So I have also
concluded that this went on for a while. Okay, Yeah,
I'm sure that there's a lot I don't know at
this point, which might be why I'm so hesitant to
initiate letting go interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
He's like, I have to, I have to go under
cover to figure it out the extent of this relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
I'm like, I'm sure there's so a valid reason for
him knocking her up and lying to me about it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
I just don't know it yet. Maybe maybe she threatened
him to release governments and he had to do it
for country, for queen and country.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
I just have to hold on until this makes sense,
because it doesn't right now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
This is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
I hate loose ends and unanswered questions, so I've berated
him with calls and tech.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Oh, we spoke earlier today.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
He called me a few hours after I wrote this
post and suggested that we sit down and talk the
next few days. I'm willing to do so, but really
it's to tie up some loose ends.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
I don't mean to be harsh. Yeah, I love you.
I'm embarrassed for you. It's hard. This is hard, man,
It's hard to listen to. It's hard because it's it's
really sad. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Not one single person who commented on this post said
anything along the lines of love conquers a or I
see where you're coming from, or he's worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Not one. Yeah. Take that as a signo, pee please, girl.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
Even though I initially told myself that I wouldn't let
random redditors affect my ultimate decision, it's hard to ignore
what I obviously have to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I have a lot going for me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
I'm in my twenties, about to finish my master's degree,
and I have a lot of friends who I love
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I'm going to assume that she is probably in the
range of twenty four to twenties.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. Being able to see the
value in those things instead of a broken relationship is
a big realization. A lot of people also ask for
me to look at the situation more logically. Imagine it
happened from an outsider's perspective, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
And that helped too. That's what I said exactly. That's
what I said.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Obviously, there are a ton of details that I did
not include for brevity's sake, and really the only person
who completely understands the situation is me, well, being able to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Understand it at all. Actually, yeah, I think everyone else
understands it. I know what happened, but you know all
the details and understand the situation.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
But being able to see a clear consensus in a
matter of hours from complete unrelated strangers to let go
and move on has turned a lot of what I
thought I wanted upside down. There's a little bit more
to the story.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
I've said all I needed to say. I think we
should just jump right in. I think so too.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
I could agonize for days over some of the questions,
when did it happen? Exactly? Was I sitting at home
crying while he was out effing what could have been?

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
But I simply don't want to anymore. I want to
desperately move on.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
I don't want anyone to think that I don't want
to move forward from this right now. It's a matter
of finding the strength to do the dirty work and
ignore his calls, block his numbers, whatever. I think I'm
just dreading that so much that it stopped me from
seeing the situation for what it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Regardless, thank you, welcome. I'm freaking glad this girl is
out of there, man, like, get out of there. Shocking
that it took literally every Reddit comment saying leave him,
leave you, leave him, leave him. She was like, no
one's saying that. I should say, Yeah, he's the one.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Maybe maybe you guys are honestly wrong, And it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
You are wrong. It's true. That's okay, you are.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
I know it's a learn it's a hard pill to swallow,
but you've got it, girl, You got it.

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Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
First, I hate my best friend, but I'm gonna be
your brides maid. Don't do that. I met my best
friend ten years ago when we were sixteen. I didn't
like her at first, but she saw me laughing and
decided she was gonna be my friend, and so she
would constantly make conversation until I couldn't ignore her and
we became best friends. We were both outsiders with us

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moving from different schools at around the same time, so
we never had other friends but each other in our
final years of school. As we have grown up, we
kept our friendship and remain close by the way. This
comes from deleted and if you want to smit your
own stories, go to the rs slash Okay storytimes Seppard.
It so about four years ago I met this boy
named Jacob. He was my first boyfriend. I've never been pretty,

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so he was the first guy to show me attention
outside of hookups. He took me on my first proper date.
We started to plan moving in together, whoa dang, and
discussing our future. I was truly happy. But then after
a year he said words that made my stomach drop.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Oh. He asked me if I would mind if he
started dating my best friend. What while they are dating?
What so insane?

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
I don't mind, you go date your best friend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
No, uh, but you also can't date me anymore. Yeah. Oh,
I could tell you the exact details of that day.
I had just finished worked. I had a really good
day because my favorite dog had come in and I
was on my way back cute. My phone rang in
the car and Jacob said he wanted to talk. He

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told me he had been talking to my best friend
for a while and that he fell in love with
her and wanted to know if it was okay to
start dating her. No, she also felt the same way
about him. Oh that's not your best friend or your boyfriend. Actually,
she also felt the same way, but said he had
to get my permission before they took things further out

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of respect. That's not respect.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
No what is this?

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
No no no, And by this title, I don't like
where this is going.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
No, no, no, Sophie, My best friend has always been
the pretty one, which has never been an issue. Of course,
she's beautiful. I tell her that all the time. I
packed Jacob's things out of my house and handed them
to him with a smile and congratulated them. It wasn't
until the next day I even cried or got angry.
But ever since the resentment has been building. It isn't

(01:11:55):
like a I hate this bee kind of resentment. I'm
still her friend, but it's like I can't be with
her for longer than a few hours or everything she
does start to annoy me. Girl, this is your fault.
What is happening here? When someone says I want to
steal your boyfriend, and your boyfriend says I want to

(01:12:16):
date your best friend. You say, you guys suck Bye,
that's what you said. I'm still her friend, but it's
like I can't be with her for longer than a
few hours, or everything she does starts to annoy me.
Why does she look at her phone so much? Why
does she expect me to buy her so much? Why
is everything she says only about her? Why does she
talk over everyone? You know, just those tiny things you

(01:12:38):
used to ignore become unbearable, so I have to make
an excuse and go. Well. Now, three years after the breakup,
they're married and she wants me to be your bridesmaid.
You're dumb. This is crazy. You're dumb? Ah, Why is
everyone in these stories stupid? I'm sorry, Sorry, Yeah, you're dumb.

(01:13:02):
I don't mean to be harsh, but you are. I
don't want to say yes, then don't. The thought makes
me feel sick, Then don't do it. I hate my
best friend so much. I don't want to be a
part of her wedding, but I know I'll say yes.
You're dumb because if I say no, it will make
her unhappy, and I'd become the bad guy. No one
would think that you are the bad guy. Your boyfriend

(01:13:25):
and your best friend cheated on you together, you don't
have to go to their wedding. Oh man, So I'll
be the head bridesmaid who's one and only boyfriend left
her for the bride, and I'll smile and act happy.
Maybe the universe will have mercy and have a truck
run me over on the way to the rehearsal dinner

(01:13:45):
or something.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Dump.

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
Okay, ah, they're just gonna be there so they can
point and laugh at you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Ha ha ha ha.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
That's the only reason.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
What are you gonna do it? They gonna have you
do a speech, and you're gonna be like when I
started dating gonna name him Brad. When I started bad
three years ago, I knew that my best friend Sherry
would love him. That would be so perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Just just totally if you're you're made of honor speech,
just totally calm out and be like, yeah, they Yeah,
I knew that they would be perfect together when I
was dating him and he asked if he could date
her when we were still freaking together.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
And I waited three years to tell this story.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Yeah, I'm so happy that they finally found each other
while I was in a relationship with him and they
were secretly emotionally cheating behind my back. I'm so happy
for them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Update. So I will not be saying yes or no.
I think I'm just gonna ghost them. What I mean, Sure,
go ahead, it's better than your first.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
Off you angry and say no and explain yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
To honestly if op. If the option is yes, or
ghost ghosts them. I'm moving states anyway, and I can
move up the date from mid next year to February
if I want. I know they will talk crap about
me behind my back, but I don't care anymore. I
won't be able to hear it. I'll be a three
hour plane right away. I will also block them on everything.

(01:15:15):
They also don't know I'm moving because they never asked
or care. Are we shocked that they don't care about you?
Because if I don't say no to being bridesmaid, she
will assume yes, and so she will be planning as
if involved, even if I don't join in.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Sure, then you go and you have that expensive food
and cake, and then you dip.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I'm only here for the food. Minor update. I spoke
to my boss at my new job about moving up
the date of my move to early next year, and
they said I can move the date up to late
November if I want. Because of the December rush they
will need an extra pair of hands, so I will
be gone by the end of the year. I have
two months to go house hunting and get my stuff
down south. Wish me luck. Comments. We've been waiting for

(01:15:58):
these little when we accidentally started. Yeah, we needed that
content to understand why these comments are about to rip
into her. Absolutely Comment one, Babe, she should have never
talked to your boyfriend and she should have never asked

(01:16:18):
you if it was okay to date him. That's so eft.
A real friend would never do that, especially while you
were actively dating him. Comment too, if I say no,
that it'd make her unhappy and then I'd be the
bad guy. So be the bad guy. There's nothing wrong
with doing what you want for yourself if that makes
you the bad guy. If it you're the bad guy,

(01:16:39):
what are they gonna do. Hold you at gunpoint, to
be embarrassed at the wedding, not go through with the wedding,
not talk to you anymore. You don't seem to like
her much as it is anymore. Ope, he says, fine,
but if they hold me at pew pew point, you're
gonna feel real guilty, me guilty for real though. I
know what I have to do. But it's like, you know,
when you just don't want to deal with the fallout.

(01:17:00):
You've been dealing with the fallout for three years. The
fallout is that your ex boyfriend and your ex friend
are getting married. Everything has already fallen. The message is
about dragging of your name through the mud and the anger.
It's just so tiring just to think about it. Comment three,
What the heck? Stop being a doormat, dump herd block
her butt, tell her heck no, you will not be
in or at her wedding because she's a selfish, self

(01:17:23):
centered witch and you have zero desire to even be
her friend anymore, and she expects you to buy her crap.
She has clearly been using and bullying you through this
whole relationship, so stop putting up with it. There is
an update, folks. It's been a while since I made
the post, Sue, I thought I would update you, as
Sophie now knows I don't like her. She didn't know good.

(01:17:45):
I went to a dinner with me, her, her sister,
and another girl I don't know, Allison. The dinner was fine.
I didn't really say much because I have been really
stressed with work and moving. I've been flying in and
out of the state trying to sort things out in
My dogs are staying at my mom's house, but one
of them just got sick. Basically, I am dealing with enough.
At the dinner, Sophie brings up me and my ex

(01:18:07):
and how I brought them together.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
No, no, ha, you are sorely, sorely mistaken, Allison and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I smiled at first and laughed it off because I
didn't want to make a big deal out of anything.
Allison said in passing she finds it weird that I
haven't dated anyone since I again didn't say anything because
I'm not hung up on him. I'm just not interested
in anyone. I have my own busy life and the
thought of coming home from work after spending all day
pleasing clients and worrying about another person makes me feel drained.

(01:18:40):
Sophie made a joke about how I'm secretly in love
with her fiance and I'm going to ring on the
wedding and everyone laughed. I just said I'm not going
to go. It was like all emotions just turned off
and I couldn't even be angry. Go ahead. I didn't
care how any of them felt anymore. I said, I'm
not going and I'm moving so she won't see me anymore.

(01:19:02):
I told her how awful she was and then left.
All right, finally, Wow, it only took forever. Yeah. After that,
I got flooded with calls and texts from her asking
me what was wrong with me? But I just don't care.
I went to work and told them I'm taking my leave,
which I was going to get paid out, and now
I'm not working. I'm staying with my aunt in the

(01:19:24):
state i'm moving to, and I move into my house
next week. My dogs joined me in two weeks. And yeah,
there's a little bit left to this story. Do you
have any final thoughts. I am really glad that she
stood up for herself because I was going to commit
an act of violence. Yeah, I was gonna. I was
gonna comit aim act to mind.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
I was gonna start to be violent, and I'm really
glad that I don't have to do that anymore. So
thanks thanks for doing that, op, because oh man, oh man,
oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
There's a seat a bit left to the story, so
we're gonna hit it. Let's do it. It's not a
huge story. I think I'm emotionally burnt out. I reckon
you are. It feels like all this anger built up
and then like a sparkler just ended. I don't even
want to think about them anymore. I just want to
move on and pretend the chapter of my life never existed.

(01:20:14):
So f you, Sophie, I hope your cake is salt
in it instead of sugar. And hope you spilled red
wine on your white dress. Getter, Getter, Ope, yetter, common wine.
What's gross is so Sophia knew she left up everything
and was poking the bear you about the situation. Yeah,
she should have just kept her mouth shut. I'm glad
you got out and we'll be free of them both

(01:20:35):
Common two says. I hope a year from now Jacob
calls her and tells her they need to talk because
he's been talking to Alison and he's in love with
her and would like Sophie's permission to start dating her.
Good for you, op have a great life. You deserve it,
reply good wine. When man marries the mistress, he creates
a vacancy. Common three save some resentment for the ex

(01:20:55):
boyfriend too. I'd hate to think you were still in
love with a wiener who'd break up by asking to
date your then friend. They deserve equal scorn, and you're
gonna find much better friends and romantic partners after you've moved.
Opie says, I am angry at him too. It's just
that we don't speak, so I can't really say much
about him other than I hope he chokes on a grape.
Opie needs therapy.
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