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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
My boyfriend demands I cut contact with his brother because
his brother defended me.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
What is this some kind of sick game.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Trigger warning, physical altercation?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Oh god, it might be.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Boyfriend and I have been together for two years. I
have known as brother who I will call Reggie for
most of that time. We've always gotten on well enough.
The whole situation started with my twenty first birthday party.
We had a party at home with twenty or so
friends and family. Reggie was of course present at the party,
along with a few other members of boyfriend's family. By
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the way, this comes from Punch Drunk Lady, and if
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r slash Owkay Storytime subread it. So the party was
going reasonably well. As it started to get later, I
started to get a little tipsy and most of the
guests had started to go. It eventually got down to
a wasted little group made up of myself, boyfriend, Reggie,
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and a couple of my girlfriends. We were sitting outside
and one of my girlfriends decided to get on the trampoline.
She managed to execute a pretty cool flip, and I
expressed that I wished I knew how to do one.
My friend talked me into giving it a try. I
got up on the tramp stumbled wastedly, and fell down laughing.
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Everyone else except for boyfriend, was laughing also. It didn't
seem like much of an event until Boyfriend got up,
muttering iplethetic in an angry tone, and then told me
that we needed to speak in private.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
She's like, you can't even do a flip. It's literally
my biggest ick.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I was pretty confused as to what was going on,
so I asked him why, and he answered me with
stopping a stupid cow for a second and come to
the bedroom.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
What what do I? I read that in Irish in
my head. What because of cow?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Hey? Both of my friends and red. He looked pretty
shocked at this, but before I followed boyfriend to the bedroom,
I told him it was fine and Boyfriend was probably
just messing around.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He can have a real temper sometimes not good, particularly
after a few drinks, but I didn't think that would
be the case in this instance, as literally nothing upsetting
had happened got to me and my boyfriend in the bedroom,
he shuts the door and starts really going off. He
tells me that I'm disgusting idiot, that I was showing
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off like some kind of pathetic wanna be by messing
around on the trampoline. What, I'm sorry?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
What? She's like drunk, and he's like, who do you
think you are?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
What do you do? You want everybody to think you're
a gymnast or something? Off? You're pathetic. Meanwhile he's cheating
on her.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, ye, that I was an embarrassment him and that
I was to go to bed now, oh, now it's
your parent.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I know what's bent not leave.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The room until morning so that I would be more
of an idiot in front of company. As this is
going on, he's getting louder and louder and is slamming
things around the room. I went to leave as I
was quite upset at this point, but he blocks the door,
so I sit down on the bed.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
This needs to be the last time break up, break up,
break up that you spend time with this guy, and
let that be known for everyone hearing the story.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Reggie is banging on the door and tells boyfriend to
open it. Boyfriend goes out in the hall and I
can hear him and Reggie arguing. Next thing I know,
Reggie comes into the room and says to go with him.
I was sobbing like crazy at this point, but because
I hate confrontation in general, I just nod and go
with him. Reggie make sure my other friends have left,
and then we both get into a taxi. I don't
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know where boyfriend is gone, but he is still in
the house somewhere. I'm crying a bunch in the car
and don't say much, but Reggie calls his and boyfriend's
mother and gives her a brief rundown of what happened.
We got to Reggie's place. He lives with a couple
and they were really nice. The girl roommate lent me
some stuff to sleep in, and Reggie told me to
take his bed and he would sleep on the count.
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I was kind of all over the place, but eventually
got some sleep. Next morning, I got up and had
coffee with Reggie in one of his roommates. Reggie asked
if boyfriend had behaved that way before, and I let
him know about boyfriend's temper, but explain that he had
never blown up over something as insignificant as me mucking
around on a trampoline. Oh pee, there was never any
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reason for him to blow up in this way. There
is no excuse for that. Well, I mean you, I
mean to blow up in this way. There is no
excuse for me.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Let me, let me brainstorm. So you have a priceless
family heirloom passed down for the hundreds of years, and
he confuses it for toilet paper. Oh, I even said he.
So I immediately swapped to this guy because I just
can't see Opie doing anything wrong. But no, and you know,
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outside of the bounds of ridiculous situations, this is all
never justified.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Never does ye ever. Nope. I asked Reggie if he
thought maybe I did or said something that might have
upset boyfriend and didn't realize dude to being a tipsy.
But Reggie said no, and that boyfriend's behavior was unacceptable.
Good on, Reggie.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I have a better hypothetical. He spits on her mom
and then like pushes her into the pool. That's like
a I would sit him down and be like, you know,
you don't get to leave. You have to sit here
and sit with what you did. You mean her, if
she or her, But I'm still doing him okay because
she would never do it.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah. I felt silly and embarrassed, especially knowing that Reggie
and my friends had heard everything boyfriend had said, and
I told Reggie I had better get home and try
to sort things out. No, no, no, no no. I'd be
like girl, you you I mean like you can go
anywhere because you're your own person, but you shouldn't go
anywhere until we get into your head that you didn't
do anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Rights you have to fix. This should be a thing
he has to fix.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah. Reggie said that he wanted me to stay at
his play yes for just a bit longer to calm down,
and that he would really prefer that I didn't go
home straight away, as boyfriend could still be angry. I
gave in and hung out there with Reggie in his roommates.
We all just played video games and got some takeout,
and I ended up feeling much better afterward, so I'm
glad I stayed. Early evening, I told Reggie I should
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really go home. I didn't have any of my clothes,
and more importantly, I needed my stuff for university. The
next day, he drove me over but didn't really want
me to go inside. I told him it would be
fine and promised I would call him if anything happened.
He agreed, but said he would wait outside for a
few minutes just in case I got inside and boyfriend
wasn't home. So I told Reggie to go and went
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about tidying up from the party. Also, the fact that
OPI was gone for seems like about a day and
he didn't tidy up.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's the biggest red flag.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, it is. Boyfriend eventually rocked up and seemed calm enough. Well,
my thing is that if no one tidied up after
a day had passed, I feel like he probably he
is never really doing any of the tiny ye might.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Not have even been there. I bet you he was
probably with whoever he's cheating on ope with.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's also true. I told him I thought we needed
to have a talk, and he agreed. He sat down
on the couch and I explained to him that I
didn't think the way he spoke to me last night
was right and asked for an explanation. There is notion
is responsible was I'll discuss that with you. After you
delete Reggie's phone number, you won't be speaking to him again.
Oh pe, oh pee. If someone is ever telling you
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to cut a person out of your life that defends
you from their aggression, that is a sign he's telling
you to cut his own brother out of your life
because his brother recognized that this guy's abusive. I was
confused as all heck at this and asked what that
had to do with the matter at hand. He told
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me that Reggie disrespected him by interfering in our relationship
and that we were cutting ties with him. We're cutting
ties with you, brother. He told me he wouldn't discuss
anything else about the night before until I did that.
I told boyfriend I thought that was pretty unnecessary and
that Reggie had been trying to help me because boyfriend
was acting really threatening, and then I would have probably
done the same in Reggie's shoes. Well, Boyfriend did not
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like that. He yelled, called me some names, and left
the house. After a few hours, he sent me a text,
I'm sorry for yelling, but you need to respect what
I want if you want the same in return. This
can't be one sided. Delete Reggie's number and we'll finish
the conversation love you, Hey you don't he stupid?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Don't that's called one sided.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Get out of that relationship. Will Pe please.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well do what I do, or we won't have the conversation.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I replied that I needed a little time to think,
and I said I would be sleeping in the spare
room when he got home and to please leave me
some space for a while. I went to bed. Her
boyfriend come in very late. He opened the door to
the spare room and turned the light on, but as
I woke up, he just walked out of the room
and slammed the door.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
He was probably mad as a fair partner wasn't in there.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
So this morning I woke up, boyfriend is work and
I have a text from Reggie. It says, hey, Opie,
I hope you're okay. Look what boyfriend did the other
night is really not all right, and I think you
should get out of there for a while. I've talked
to our friends and it's totally oh the roommates and
it's totally fine for you to crash here until you
figure out what you want to do. So that leaves
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me where I am now. Don't know what to do
with the situation. Do his boyfriend asks and cut contact
with Reggie, or take Reggie's offer of some space away
from boyfriend to clear my head. My worry is that
I stay at Reggie's. That will destroy any chance of
fixing things with boyfriend. Advice very much appreciated. I can't
wait for all the comments.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
So SOA, we're about to get that.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Say leave Reggie.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
You being unable to fix things with your boyfriend is
not a problem that. Yeah, that's a solution.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, there is no fixing this.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You sure he's no fixing de sire to fix it? No, No, nope, nope.
Please leaves, and you know, get out of there. If
anyone ever listens to these stories us included, and goes,
why why would anyone ever stay there? You have to
look up the cycle of abuse, yep, because that is
why this person is a victim of their own thought
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loops and their own you know, and and and they're
being victimized by their partner. Yep. So you know it's
all right.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Probably has been isolating them from everyone who has ever said, hey.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Regg doesn't seem like a great guy, right, And people
who are abusers, they have like a radar for people
who will like not see through them, or who will
put up with their crap? You know, they'll they'll put
they put feelers, you know whatever. They're insidious people. But
it's not on her, no being so blind, to being
able to not be able to see that she needs
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to leave the situation. And I hope Reggie continues to
hammer the point home with her, and I hope that
Reddit does too. But there isn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
When I was able to come back and check on
this post, I was amazed at the enormous amount of
comments and messages I received. There's been a lot to
catch up on and I'm reading everything. Thank you to
everyone who was given their advice. It has cemented the
decision I've already made about getting out amazing news. But
quite a bit has happened in the last day, so
I will be doing an update for anyone who is curious.
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I will try to get it up in a few hours. Again,
thank you to everyone who has commented or messaged me.
I'm truly touched by all the helpful and caring responses
I received.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Update.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
After Reggie texted me, I replied to him asking if
he had known my boyfriend to behave like this with
other girls in the past. Over the course of many texts,
it came out that he often yelled at and belittled
his previous girlfriends in front of others, and some of
his friends and family had suspicions about how far he
was taking it. After the breakup, the girlfriend posted some
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stuff on Facebook about how boyfriend had hit her. I
don't understand why any of the family wouldn't be immediately
being like, hey, hey, uh oh, pie, just want you
don't know?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
This is what happened, right, Like, I don't understand how
people can just rock with folks that are known abuse her.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, how could Reggie even be?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Like?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I would never be involved in someone's life if I
found out that they like hit people and were abusive
to their partners, I'd be like, uh bye, never be
having you around me. And did other things like spying
on her and deleting people from her phone behind her back. Initially,
when this happened, Reggie and his parents questioned boyfriend, and
he insisted that the physical abuse accusations were not true
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and that his ex was saying those things to cover
up the fact that she allegedly cheated.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
On him, which means that he's cheating.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Boyfriend admitted to yelling at her, but he told his
family that she did the same and just as often.
His family eventually accepted that, but Reggie and his parents
were always wary of boyfriend's behavior, and Reggie in particular
had made a point to keep an eye on things.
Boyfriend's X apparently had also called Reggie around six months
after myself and boyfriend had gotten together, and asked him
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to help me if anything happened. I mean, if someone's
ex is reaching out to you and saying, like.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Please help this new girl right what you know, what
are we doing.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
At the time, Reggie was not quite ready to believe
boyfriend would physically abuse anyone, but he told her all
the same he would watch out for me or any
other girl in the future. Reggie told me that after
the way he saw boyfriend behave at my party, he
became more convinced that boyfriend was likely to get physical,
and that was why he chose to step in. He
also told me that even if it didn't go that far,
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I should not put up with how boyfriend treated me.
I agreed what Reggie had told me, and all the
information and support I received here had me pretty convinced
that I was not in a good situation, I decided
to go and stay with Reggie and his roommates for
a short time. I don't have too many other options
for accommodation this urgently. My parents lived too far away,
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and the few friends I could stay with are other
girls with enough on their plate, and I didn't want
to risk bringing this drama to their doorsteps. In retrospect,
I'm glad I chose to go to Reggie's because I
I feel like what followed could have been even more
frightening and dangerous if only myself and another girl had
been present. I didn't have much time to get my
stuff together before boyfriend was due to arrive home, so
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I packed a few bags of essentials and valuables along
with my school things, and Reggie picked me up. I
left a note at the house for boyfriend saying I
was leaving and that I did not plan on returning
other than to retrieve the rest of my things. I
didn't tell him where I would be staying and that
I would rather he didn't contact me directly, suggesting he
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communicate through his mother instead. I got to Reggie's and
got settled in while choosing to leave was difficult, and
I had a few bouts of crying. I also felt
immensely relieved. Reggie and boyfriend's parents came around and brought
some dinner. They were incredibly nice about everything and told
me I had to do what was best for me.
We always got along well, but I never expected them
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to be so kind and supportive given the situation. Halfway
through dinner, my phone rang. It was boyfriend. I did
not want to answer it, and everyone and I also
agree that was probably a good idea. After my phone
rang out, Reggie and boyfriend's mom phone began to ring.
Two Predictably enough, it was boyfriend calling. His dad answered
the phone. The phone was not on speaker, but boyfriend
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was loud enough that you could hear him yelling down
the phone. I couldn't tell exactly what was said, but
his dad was telling him to calm down and not
to do something. Boyfriend hung up on him, and Reggie
and boyfriend's dad told us boyfriend was coming to Reggie's place,
saying this was all Reggie's fault. Please please please saw
the police ring ring Please police.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I am a psychic. I can predict a crime is
going to be committed at my address.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Reggie started to get a bunch of text messages from
boyfriend making threats and telling Reggie that he knew I
was there and he was coming to get me. Please
please don't see you.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That was a reference for you. That was a psych
That was a psych reference like that. I could have
heard those words to give me some domine I liked it. Ah, Yes,
we will, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Reggie replied to him, saying that if boyfriend came here
and caused trouble, he would be calling the police, but
boyfriend ignored him. Call the police. Call the police.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, no, straight up, like the police. Hey, like an
abusive boyfriend that I'm leaving is coming to the place
I am call the police.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Already threatened, boyfriend showed up at Reggie's probably fifteen minutes later.
He drove up the lawn and almost hit the letter
box and got out of his car and started yelling, police, ring, ring, ring.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I'm sorry, this is a guy who needs to go
to jail. Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Reggie and his dad went out while I stayed in
the front room with his mom. Boyfriend yelled for a
while and was punting at random parts of the garden.
Boyfriend started to yell towards the house that he knew
I was there and to come out. I wasn't planning
on coming out at all, and Reggie told him to leave.
Boyfriend ended up running around the side of the house
to the back patio entry. The screen door was locked,
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but the solid back door wasn't, and he started hitting
the flywire trying to break it. Police, Why is no
one calling the police? He kept yelling into the house
that he knew I was there and that if I
didn't come out, he would destroy all my stuff and
log onto my school out accounts and cause problems on there.
Reggie and his dad caught up to boyfriend and started
pulling him away from the door. Boyfriend started throwing the
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old one toos and his mom and I both went
out to the inside of the back door because we
were worried someone would get hurt. Boyfriend saw me and
started trying for the back door again. His mom said
she was going to call the police go do that.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
If only someone had thought about doing that before he
got there.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Boyfriend and Reggie's dad ended up palling him out to
the front yard and told him to leave. Boyfriend did
eventually get into the car, spun his wheels, tore up
the grass, and drove off.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So what the actual flippity DooDah are his parents doing?
I have no idea. Why are there this, have no
in sequences, needed, territory, no clue. I know one is
calling the place like this guy would have been pinned
on my front lawn. I don't care if you know.
I don't care that he's my son. He's pinned on
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the front lawn until the cops get there and arrest, arrest, arrest, arrest.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I feel pretty awful after all that his mom and
dad were both visibly really upset, and Reggie's rental property
had been messed up. Police, I'd like to file a
police report.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Police, my known abuser is coming to this house to
try to get me. Maybe have the cops be here
to arrest him. Thank you, But.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
They were still so nice about everything though. They really
are wonderful people. I spoke to the police and they
said they would be speaking to boyfriend about what happened,
and I got some advice about obtaining a VRO and
making sure I could find a way of retrieving my
stuff from the house. So that is all okay for
the moment. The latest news is that boyfriend has been
all over Facebook saying that Reggie and I have been
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having an affair and posting all these random, propped, blurry
corn pictures from the internet saying it was us and
then he caught us in the act. None of us
are responding to any of it at this point. I
haven't really decided what to do there. That's a fun
combo of different felonies. That yes, that's also a felony. Yeah,
my plan is to stay with Reggie for now. It
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still is my best option, and Reggie has said he
won't leave me alone at the house in case boyfriend
comes back, either he or his male roommate would be there.
We also spoke to a couple of the neighbors that
Reggie is friendly with, and they said they would keep
an eye out for his car or call us if
they saw anything dodgy.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Why why is he not in jail? Failure of the parents.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
By the way, you can keep an eye out for
full episodes with stories just like this. Just go to Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio and search up Okay, storytime, But
oh my goodness, there's a little bit left of the story.
Immediately call the police. Back ups say, hey, I'd like
to file a police report for property damage. Look at
all this damage. Yeah, here it is. Hello, Hello he
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did I'd like to file a police sport you threatened me.
Here's proof in text.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, and I gotta tell you. I bet you this
guy doesn't He doesn't sound like the most level headed, thoughtful,
you know, emotionally regulated individual. He would probably tell the
police he did this stuff. So it's okay to this
man needs un sequenceous consequences.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
But there is a little bit left to this story.
I'm a bit at a loss as to what to
do next.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Oh, I just told you what. I know it's due.
You have to buy a net launcher. And next time
old uh stinky pants comes uh sniffing around, you just
get him with the net launcher. Good and uh that
was a good sound. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, you
just hit him with one of those. You know.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I'm at a bit of a loss as to what
to do next. I'm planning to talk to my UNI
about getting into student housing. I'm planning to go out
tomorrow to buy some pepper spray. Also, I'm tossing up
about reaching out to boyfriend's X, but I'm not sure
if that will cause more problems for everyone, So I
suppose that's it for now, at least. I'm sorry that
this was a bit of a novel, but I know
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a lot of people wanted an update, and considering how
nice everyone has been, I wouldn't want anyone to worry
that I had gone back slash state with him. Rest
assured that is totally out of the question. The more
I think about things that happened within our relationship with
this new perspective, the more I realized how fed up
some of those things were.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yes, you're getting out of the cycle. Yes, yeah, I
love right. I just wanted to make sure I updated
so no one was thinking I still stayed with this guy.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I just had to tell you. Yes, good good ending. Yeah,
and I'm glad, so glad that so glad. You know
your boyfriend was so smelly.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
But Reggie, Reggie, Reggie for the whin We got another story.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
My boyfriend bought a house with his brother. It's been
less than an ideal living situation. Move out, that's the solution.
I have been with my partner for about a year
before our relationship. He purchased a Big four unit home
with his brother and brother's wife. So the three of
them bought the home together with the long term goal
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of eventually having two units to themselves, one for my boyfriend,
the other for his brother and wife, and converting the
remaining two units into a shared floor shared between them all.
By the way, this comes from user objective olive twenty
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breddit to.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Every doing it go so many stories over there.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
So it's a beautiful, old, historic Victorian home that needs
a lot of work done to it. Their mother had
passed a year ago, so the money they received from
her will they use towards the home. I came into
the picture shortly after this big decision and their mother's passing.
I've been renting an apartment for the past six years
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by myself. I've always lived alone, and even when I
lived with family, I was pretty isolated. Both my parents
have passed and I have a pretty traumatic upbringing, full
of abandonment from my parents and family, substance problems, and
an overall emotionally neglectful family. I do not have good
relationships with my family members, So that's the gist of me.
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My partner's goal was originally to purchase a home with
his future partner. That has now changed since purchasing the home,
it's now that he sees himself living in this home
and having kids here. I obviously aligned more with his
original goal of purchasing a home with my partner. Two
tenants have left from the house, so they both occupy
one unit now, which happens to be the future shared floor.
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I'm here all the time now for the past month
since he's moved in. They've knocked a wall open to
gain easier access to each other, so I can walk
over to his brother's side right through a door. Imagine
a hotel with a shared door you can unlock thatchoes
to an adjacent room. Additionally, his brother is a vet
slash dog breeder, so they have tons of dogs, like
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eight on the brother's side, which is a noise issue
for sure. The problem for me is figuring out how
I fit in this whole vision. They have already carved out.
The units they took over are one bedroom units. Long term,
when they're able to fully occupy the house, they'll each
have three bedroom units. Essentially the size of a normal house.
In each there won't be a shared door once we
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move into the bigger units. I was thinking of moving
in a couple of months so I could save on
my rent and pay down my debts faster. But it's
such an unusual circumstance, at least to me anyway. So
am I clocking this right? Are they? So? They have
three or four units in like a shared building, like
an apartment space, like maybe they're like penthouse units ors
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I assume, I don't know. From the sounds of it.
It sounds like they're pretty large, like they're extensive, So
it sounds like they've bought like a you know, huge
space in like a like a apartment complex. They're knocking
down the walls or like condos or something. Sorry, I'm
just it's been I was, it was. It was difficult
for me to paint that picture in my head. So
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I'm just trying to get clear because at first I
was thinking in the context of like houses, the units
on like a property, but it really, yeah, it feels
like they're knocking down walls and like like somehow they
bought the whole penthouse of a building and they're knocking
down walls in there, because if you have three or
four units with three bedrooms, or like three units with
three bedrooms and the one with one, it's like, I
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just I'm having a hard time visualizing if anyone in
chat can help me out orunds.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Like it's a duplex that they're turning into a single
family house.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Possibly, yeah, okay, yeah, so much room for activities, says Kimberly. Fine,
I really value my privacy and independence. His brother and
sister in law feel I close myself off, But the
way I see it, there's literally a door they can
walk through at any moment to see me. You can't
get any closer than being on the same property, like
ten feet away through a door. So our relationship is
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strained right now because I do not exactly get along
with his brother. I find his brother to be intimidating
and cold. The sister in law I get along better with,
but I'm still not exactly the closest with them. My
boyfriend touts that I get an instant family with them
and that they will help me with anything, and once
we're moved in upstairs, I will get more privacy and
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can do whatever I want to the space to make
it our own. To sum it up, the kind of
deal I feel is in front of me is that
I'd have to accept the circumstances of the house with
him and his brother and sister in law, or I
have no future with him. It feels like I cannot
choose my partner alone in this. My boyfriend says I
guilt him and make him feel like he has to
choose between his brother and me, which I feel like
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that's wrong. If anything, it feels like the brother is
probably putting that energy out there. Yeah. Part of me
is unsure if I'm being too closed off due to
my upbringing. I don't know how to accept the situation
without feeling like I'm a bystander. With all this, we
got into an argument yesterday because of a room that
is currently empty and in the process of being fixed up.
We had a differing opinion on windows. I tore off
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some window frames without consulting his brother, and that caused
an issue. We had stripped the paint off of them,
but poorly, so I was getting frustrated and tried to
expedite the process. His brother has for the first time
texted me directly in our group, looking to resolve our differences.
And here's how I look at it. Here's the pros.
I'm able to get help from his brother and sister
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in law at any given moment, especially if we had kids.
I could see that being a huge plus reduced in
it reduces the debt and overall home ownership cost. It
is a beautiful home, and owning a home in New
York is a big deal. I knew it.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Oh then maybe it's like a yeah, someone's saying Brownstone.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I knew it. Yeah, Brownstone, like.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
A Brownstone in New York, like going to the gold But.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
They're saying units. It's multiple units. You know, you don't
really have multiple units in but a house like a Brownstone.
So I'm seeing where it's like it's like a high ride,
like there's they have multiple units.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
But how they would not be it was a high rise.
They would not be able to like take down walls.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Oh yeah, if you buy the apartment. Yeah they bought it,
so it's like they own those apartments. sEH.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I was thinking like old house that was like made
into a bunch of like separate places, and then they
they got Oh, I guess that that's what I was saying.
That could be true. But it's like multiple.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It would be a massive house because you've got at
least two units that have three bedrooms. How does that work?
So that's a six seven eight, it's a ten bedroom house,
I mean a ten bedroom brownstone. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I'm just throwing out other possibilities.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I just like the penthouse.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Oh they said a Victorian house.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Blast the set of a house everyone.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Ooh shoot, I feel silly. It's a beautiful home, and
owning a home in New York is a big deal.
I wouldn't be able to buy a home on my
own right now. I do woodworking projects, so getting to
do a lot of DIY things will be nice once
we have the three bedroom space. His brother being a
vet is also a pro and the cons unsure of
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boundaries and privacy. At the moment, the dogs are loud
and currently because of the shared door, there is a
lot of noise and I'm not it's not feeling like
a single household. His brother will always be included in
some way. I feel like a bystander. Well, I mean
you'd be a part of it. I don't get to
own the home, and I do have to give up
creative decisions on things such as the exterior of the
home or the shared downstairs, since that will be his
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brother's decisions. I love my apartment. I made it my own,
and I feel sad about leaving it. Anyone in a
similar situation, can you chime in? Am I being selfish?
Part of me thinks I am because of how independent
I am. My boyfriend tells me to see the big
picture of it all, but I struggle with it because
I view things as wanting to only make decisions between
him and I, and it's an awkward dynamic for me
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to accept that his brother is a huge part of
the home. I always imagined my future relationship being its
own entity, living with that person exclusively, and having a family.
I might be closed off to this dynamic as well
because I am a deeply mistrusting person. I'm not sure
how to process my thoughts on this. And there is
an edit.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, when I move in or when I have a partner,
I'm going to live in a compound with my brother.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah. Oh yeah, You've made it very clear. Sam is
the package deal.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, and Sam has to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I think with advances in cloning, we can come up
with some very creative solutions to that problem.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I don't want to clone you, sure, yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Can do it.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
If we're cloning, why not just coming up come up
with teleportation?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Oh you know what? Yeah, hey, all you clone nerds,
why don't we get off of clones and start working
on teleporting exactly way better. Yeah, I'm trying to bully
the cloning people into thinking that clones are so uncool
that they have to do teleprodus.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I think you how to do it anyway.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I can't keep that better than edit. Let's go to
the edit. I spoke with my boyfriend about the situation
and have decided to not move in until I'm ready smart,
So I will be keeping my apartment. Also, I will
not devote my spare time to doing housework there alone anymore,
since it's too stressful and takes away from me doing
things for myself.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Wait, you were sorry? Wait you were doing housework for
a place that she doesn't even live in. What also
that like they've given her no like creative autonomy, you know,
like she's not had any of the creative decisions where.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, it's like, unless you move into this house right
now with me and my brother and his wife then
clearly you don't want this relationship to continue. Yeah, it's
such like a weird logical jump, like there's just a
hole there that the logic is falling into. Yep, we
will revisit the idea of me moving in sometime in
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the future, but we have no hard date on it.
I've been reading all the replies and I really appreciate
the different perspectives. And we have an update.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
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Speaker 1 (31:48):
Thoughts.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I'm the same ones that I've already said, don't move
in here. I mean, I think the problem here is
that they want you to move in, but also they
don't want to give you any like, say over anything.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Right, which I guess, and also they want you to
clean things to some extent. It makes sense because I
think it was like a family house or something.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
And it's you know, so immediacy of having her move in.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Right, That's the thing that it makes sense where they're like, well,
this is like our family house. So it's like, if
you're not married into the family, it makes sense you
wouldn't be on the title or deed or whatever. But also,
because you're not married to me and in our family,
it also makes sense for me to not tell you
it's something you have to do. Yeah, or the relationships
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over exactly. Yeah, there's an update here. Hope it makes sense.
This is a good update. Actually, this is a good
what is it? This is good? This is good news. Mark,
I made a steak. You made a steak. Yes, I
I will not elaborate. This is a good update. Actually,
So it's been a little over three months since I
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posted to quickly recap. My boyfriend had purchased a house
with his brother and sister in law about a year
a go, just a few months before I was in
a relationship with him, so I had no say in
the matter since I was not around.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Also kind of crazy, not like now that we're revisiting
that information, kind of crazy that he's insisting that she
move in when the relationship is seemingly only less than
a year old. Yeah, he's saying that she has to
move in after like less than a year a relationship
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or the relationship is over.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
What I think. It's not an explicit ultimatum, but it's
more like implied. That's what he had been putting out
there a big four family Victorian that they wanted to
convert into a two family, with the majority of the
space and house decisions going to his brother. Obviously, I
wasn't okay with this arrangement for a multitude of reasons,
but there wasn't much I could do besides voice my input.
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After reading through all of your responses on my original post,
which I was super appreciative of, I decided to hold
off on moving in with him. It was not a
situation I wanted to move into immediately until I got
a better feel of how things would go between him
and his brother and the house. I also have a
very nice apartment and do not want to give that
up so fast. My boyfriend was definitely a bit bummed
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when I told him, but he understood. So I decided
to wait things out and see if my boyfriend would
naturally come to terms with the fact that long term,
it wouldn't be a good decision for us as a couple.
A few of you had said since his heart was
invested in the house, there wasn't much persuasion I could
have on him. I didn't push him on anything. I
just let his brother's bad decisions in my boundaries do
the talking. For example, if we were to move into
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the upstairs unit together, my boyfriend originally wanted to open
up a door to the other side into the brother's unit.
He said the brother wouldn't come through and that it
would be private for us. I firmly disagreed and lamented
on the current facts of how the situation is downstairs
with the same kind of hotel door pathway to his side,
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where the dogs are barking and there's an invasion of
pride and it's not exactly our space. He eventually agreed
to not open up the door and only have the
front door aka a normal house, not a hotel. His
brother is also pretty rash, so he frequently will start
up drama with him through text messages. Just last week,
his brother decided to text him and basically said, I
don't think the house is going to work out. I'm
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not going to be happy with the house, with how
things are going now. You are at girlfriend's house all
the time. She just wants her own private getaway. She
doesn't seem to get along with the dogs, et cetera,
to which my boyfriend said, yes, I think it would
be healthier for me and girlfriend to get our own house. Therefore,
there is no more talk of us moving into that
house permanently. That's still, I think, not the right. What
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are we doing? Are we ready to move into to
the house? Are we ready for home ownership together?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
No? Why are we ready for? Why are we even
thinking about home ownership?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeather? Are we doing this just because we're like, well,
I couldn't afford a home on my own?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah? Whoa Not a thing makes suys Opie. If you're
uncomfortable with the idea, it's your instinct saying no.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yes, you still don't have to go buy a house
with your boyfriend just because he doesn't want to live
with his brother.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Now, dude, it's been under a year.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Very very weird, very very very weird. So I was
so relieved it came from his brother because I did
not have to push him out of it. His brother did, which, FYI,
my boyfriend is only at my apartment one or two
nights a week. Max. I am super allergic to the dogs. Wait,
so yeah, I avoid them. So she's allergic, yo, that's
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huge information. Allergic.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
She hates dogs, she's allergic.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, she's allergic. Yes, Oh my goodness, what is it?
Why are the dogs there? And he does he's a
dog breeder?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
No, and they just have dogs, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I know he's a vet. It was because he's a
vet slash dog beaeder. Yes, and yes, I want my
house to be my private getaway. I don't know why
he painted that in a negative tone. Yeah, he's like
she want.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
She wants her own space in New York.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I don't think so. Hey, bro, I don't know if
you caught onto this, but she doesn't think like I do,
so watch your back.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
My boyfriend actually was relieved too. Now our talks have
switched to us coming together as a couple and figuring
out how to save up for a house in two years,
which fixed my concern of thinking he only cared about
the house in the first place. Although I got a
vent a bit, I am bummed at his brother essentially
stole this time from him and money as well. He
had money for a home before he put it all
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on this one. Now we have to wait for his
brother to pay back his share. Also, he can't be
considered on another mortgage until they refinance the house and
remove him in two years. That sucks. I do make
a good salary and have excellent credit, so I could
potentially qualify for a mortgage on my own. We just
need to wait, save, and pray that the New York
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housing market simmers down. It just sucks that his brother
has really come in between him starting his own life.
That's how it feels. At least feels one sided, like
his brother seemed to call all the shots, and now
my boyfriend is paying for it, like literally and figuratively,
he is paying for it. At this point, the issues
are financial. His brother's a vet who makes more than
double what my boyfriend makes, yet he doesn't pay most
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of the mortgage. My boyfriend has been floating most of
the mortgage payments paying for a new roof. Blah blah
blah blah blah. He can't pay off his credit cards
because of the money tied to paying the roof. They
are all essentially in a financial hardspot. Overall, though this
is excellent news. I'm just glad I won't have to
move in there forever. My boyfriend would still like me
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to move into his apartment soon though, for the meantime
to help us save up. You don't have to do that.
You don't have to do that. I'm still on the
fence because I don't like the situation.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
If you're on the fence, don't don't do it.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
If you know what you want, get what you want,
not what you don't.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
For the love of God, like super excited to move
in or don't do it.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
We were going to do a month trial run of
me staying over see what issues I have and fix
them before I move in. Or I just say no
entirely and don't move in. He's in a financial pinch
right now, but I don't want to move in based
on that alone, even though it would be temporary, but
two years is quite a long time. I would rather
pay the rent at my place for my own sanity.
And by the way, you can listen to full episodes
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you can listen to it to your heart sings.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
My advice is, girl, don't don't let anyone pressure you
into doing something that you don't feel ready for. You
have been in this relationship, it seems for less than
a year it is okay for you to be like, hey,
maybe we're not ready to move in together. Yeah, and
him going on, you know, all these different directions to
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try and get you to move in with them. Weird,
a little sketchy, little sketchy, a little sketchy.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah. And to boyfriend, why are you letting your brother
just like run over you dude?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, you know, and for yourself, it's your money too,
go on, have a voice, have a voice, speak up.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Let's finish this story. Edit. I think there's some confusion
based on some of the replies I've read. My boyfriend
still lives in the house they bought together. He's not
being removed. He will still live there until me and
him were to find a place to call home. So
he's staying there and I'm staying at my apartment until
we make a decision on if I move in with
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him or vice versa, or if we just stay put
where we are. There's not there's no rushing that part.
So the good about this update is we plan on
buying our own home in the future together if all
goes well. Him and the brother are trying to work
through the issues and that.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
There we get a storys there we go.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I guess she's pretty serious about it. If she's basically
talking about, like buying a house with this guy's a
foregone conclusion.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
But she seems like still hesitant. The only reason that
I feel like she's bringing up is because he keeps bringing.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Up Yeah, I don't know. Don't don't do things because
you're like supposed to on paper, or because someone else.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Is saying, oh, it's a great idea, Like if you're
if your gut saying oh, I don't know, I don't
know if I'm ready for that.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, rus your gut. You can't just walk into a
sketchy situation because someone is telling Indians feel it in
your heart, in your soul. But that is the end
to that story. Story. And are you doing we got
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Speaker 3 (41:40):
My family treated my sister badly during my graduation.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I'm planning to leave, so I'm to graduate. Backstory.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
My sister, let's call her Rain And I almost misread
that as Raisin h is the oldest out of three.
Our mother has never liked her for various reasons, the
main one being that Rain is the one who ruined
her teenage years. My mom had her at sixteen and
was and very obviously resents her for this. Oh really,
it's the child's fault.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Right, It's the kids fault that her life got uh ruined,
not her own fault.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Our family is mostly pro life and anti adoption, so
giving Rain up or terminating her wasn't an option. Because
of this, our mom has always been very cold to
our sister. By the way, this comes from she who
wanders and if you want to sumit your own stories,
go to the r slash. Okay, storytime subbured it.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Damn really quickly. Can I just say so your mom's
always been a piece of shit? That's crazy? Yeah did
you say that? Sorry?
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Rain is all so different. She's Wicca like myself and
mainly listens to really heavy metal and pet's nude how
scandalous women in her free time. Our mom tried everything
to punish Rain and mold her into a normal woman.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
It didn't work, and it.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Just caused Rain to have some pretty bad self esteem issues.
When Rain turned eighteen, she fled to go live with
our dad and never looked back. Mom acted like she
never existed, and sadly, she made her lives a whole
lot better once Rain was out of the picture. Rain
graduated last year and my mom refused to show up
or let us show up. She sent Rain a passive
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aggressive card, and that was that. Rain was really upset
from what I heard, and was inconsolable for a few days.
She told me she felt unloved and worthless. It was
heartbreaking to hear her say those things, and I did
my best to comfort her. She got better, but I
can tell she hasn't really recovered from that. After that,
she got a boyfriend and went no contact with our mom.
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She moved several states away to live with her boyfriend,
best friend, and best friend's husband. She's a lot happier now,
or at least was until yesterday. Fast forward to yesterday.
Rain surprised us all when she came to my graduation.
She drove all the way from northern Wisconsin to southern
Texas and it was an amazing surprise. I literally cried
when I saw her, and it really made my big
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day so much better.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Mom, Well, let's just first, you've got a good sibling.
That's good.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Mom wasn't happy to see her and started nitpicking on
what Rain was wearing. Rain ignored her and gave me
a hug before excusing herself to a seat. The ceremony
itself came and went without fuss. Here's your diploma, get
the f out kind of ordeal ah. Afterwards, my mom
was throwing a huge celebration party for me and my friends.
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Her friends also attended. I invited Rain and it took
a lot of convincing to get her to go. I
really wish I hadn't. Rain arrived a bit early and
had issues parking her car. My stepdad was making fun
of her big time. Her car is a standard and
she's still getting the hang of it. She can't parallel
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park to save her life. My stepdad said something really
offensive and I went inside. My friends really like Rain
and were really excited to see her as well. The
only people who weren't excited to see Rain was my mom,
stepdad and the family friends. They kept whispering about her
like middle schoo whenever she wasn't around. It was embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Why why is it? Why are they acting like it
was like, it's like scandalous, and Rain decided to be
born spy her own mother.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
What is this attitude? When the party started, Rain brought
several large pans of her amazing brownies and her graduation
present for me. That's so lovely. I felt really bad
because our mom's family had done fall for her graduation
and here she was going out of her way to
bring me stuff and visit. I mean, just focus on
the fact that you too have a great relationship.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah, you didn't.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Seem to mind in the slightest. My mom got really
wasted and flat out started being mean. She called Rain
a horde of names and said Rain had gotten even
more gross than when she had last seen the poor girl.
I got pissed and told my mom to knock that
crap off, and proceeded to tell her that Rain was
family and she would be treated as such. My mom
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got pissed and she told me that Rain wasn't a
haffing mistake. You're anffing mistake, Mom, You suck. Mom also
told me that Rain would never be true family, just
a nuisance and a burden. So that's when I kick
her out.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I'm like, yeah, I'm like immediately in that moment, disowning
my family right there.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yep. Sadly, Rain overheard this, and I could tell it
really hurt her. My mom's equally as wasted friend agreed,
saying it was a shame because Rain is smart but
a complete loser. I cannot believe that this is happening.
This is beyond anything Mom's ever done. She has always
been mean to Rain, but never like this. Needless to say,
the day was ruined. When Rain brought out her brownies
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for me, my mom yelled at her to stop stealing
the spotlight. Rain is an excellent baker. I loved the brownies,
but my mom told Rain to throw it away or
get it off, get at the f off the table.
Before she did it herself. Rain was just gone. All
I saw was an empty, depressed shell, wandering around and
trying to get task done like a robot. I seriously
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wondered if I was in some crappy soap opera or dreaming,
because this was just eft in so many ways. Pop,
I don't know what the f my mom's problem is.
She's a sad, angry.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
You know, she's a person broken little wench of a lady.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, she just she's so unhappy with how her life
is going that she has to take it out on
everyone else.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Well, it's weird because it doesn't feel like she's taking
out on OP. It feels like it's all directed. It's Rain, Yeah,
which is I don't get she's scape going Rain.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Rain left the food hidden in my room and left
her gift with it. Nobody noticed, thank god, so nobody
sabotaged her efforts. If you didn't say another word the
entire time until my mom really pulled some fed up
crap no more, I would have left.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I would have left. Well this is isn't this your
graduation like OPI? This is for Op.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, I'm saying if I was Rain, I would have left.
If I was Ope, I would have taken Rain and left.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
If I'm OP, I stand up on the table, I
stomp my feet, and I clean my glass, and I
say everyone's attention please. Yeah, my mother is a creature
from the black legal yep, and I no longer see
her as my mother. Yep.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
The sona right there. After a couple hours, food was
ready and we were all super hungry. Rain got her food,
sat down next to me, and ate in total silence.
My sister is a bouncy, cheerful, chatty woman. Normally. This
was ruining my day, so I tried to keep my
mom away from her. When I went inside to do
a couple things, I came back out to my mom
yelling at Rain tackle her. She said horrible things to
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my sister and rubbed the fact that she would never
have something like this in her entire life in her face.
Rain was crying and I screamed at my mom to
shut the f up. I told my mom she was
a crappy mother and how dare she treat her own
child like that. Momm yelled back at me, saying Rain
would never be her child and that she wished Rain
would just f off already. Everyone got silent. Rain gave
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me a hug, told me she loved me, then grabbed
her dog that she had to leave behind when she
first moved out and left.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I was furious.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
My friends and I left after telling Mom how horrible
she was, and tried to catch up with my sister.
It was pointless that we turned around and went back home.
She was speeding big time and got too far away
to reasonably follow. Rain has not spoken to any of
us since. She hasn't been on Facebook and her boyfriend
said she made it home fine, but instantly went to
bed and hasn't woken up since she got there. I
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don't know what to do. Her mom is pretending like
nothing happened and fakes confusion when I angrily confront her
about the bs she pulled yesterday. I'm so so lost.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Rain is a.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Wonderful and amazing sister. She didn't do anything to deserve
any of that. Between crying and being angry, I haven't
been able to figure out what to do from here.
What can I do to help Rain? I love her
a lot, and I really look up to her. She's
an amazing person and it really effed me up to
see her be treated like this by our own family.
I know she needs my support, but I don't know
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how to help. And there is an update. But oh, Pee,
you help her by being there for her, Yeah, by
letting her know that you love her, and by telling
your mom to f off and to never talk to
you again, right until she can freaking get her head
out her.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
But know how much you support her, yeah, and how
appalled you were by all these untrue things your mom
was saying.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, you know that's all you can do.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
And probably encourage her to like talk to account or
a therapist about it, because you know it's unfortunate. You know,
my mom will probably hate that I say this, but
it's like, you know, they don't mean too a lot
of times. Most times I may even say, but a
lot of our issues just stem from our upbringing and
our parents in our childhoods, And it's like, you got
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to get an addressed, you know.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Indeed, but there is an update. So I finally got
a hold of Rain after a surprisingly short amount of time.
Apparently this was normal behavior displayed by mom to her
when we were growing up. My brother of fifteen, Mail
and I never noticed it, but we understand now better
late than ever, I guess. I talked to Rain and
offered my support. You appreciated it, and we had a
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really deep conversation. I found out a lot of really
terrible crap that my mom had done to her, and
it's pushing me closer to moving out. The only thing
stopping me is fear of my mother and for my brother. Honestly,
I think that's understandable though, By the way, I understand
that you can listen to full episodes of stories just
like this just go to Spotify, Apple podcast, or iHeartRadio
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and search a Pocus story time. But there is a
little bit left to this story. Any final thought.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
If you have if your brother, I being a concern
for your brother is definitely understandable, I would suggest, as
he even said, he's starting to see now like, hey,
that was really messed up.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
There have been situations where I've had good friends stay
my ales when I was you know that age, and
your mom's just all talk. She's just a bag of
hot air that if you stand right next to it, yeah,
I can burn you. But it's just like if you
just get a little bit of distance, it's just like
a breeze. What is she gonna do? Tell you how
much you suck? Like, that's great, you know that you don't.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
It's a great example. Thankfully, I learned that Rain is
in therapy and getting help. You said, it really helps.
But mom's comments are still hurtful and offensive. That's why
she cried. I told her not to worry, because showing
emotion is just part of being human. Boom.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Rain is also.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Planning on helping fund my move out when my friends
and I can find a place. She and I both
want me out of that toxic environment. What mom did
and is done to rain makes me literally nauseous. I
may be overacting, but it's bad to me.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Oh no, you're not reacting. It's nauseating.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
You're not over reacting at all.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
It was a nauseating from like paragraph yeah one.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
But folks said, that is the end of that story.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
And the end of this episode and the end of
the stream. Kean, please tell me you have an act
a lot already.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
And thank you for the ten bucks. I just feel
like it you worked hard. That's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Also, yes, thank you. That was very sweet, so sweet.
I really appreciate that boy he's in my hand.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
And then for stand along with us. My stomach is
growling like smart. But folks, that's the end of that story,
the end of this episode.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
And the end of this stream.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
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